When God's people intermarry with unbelievers, they are rebelling against the Word of God and sinning against God. They are also sinning against their unborn children and their children and their children. It should be ingrained in every child in his earliest days that he should never marry an unsaved person. Hence, he should be taught that he should never date unsaved people. Think of it! Intermarriage between God's people and the heathen caused the entire world to be destroyed and also caused man to have his language differ from others. This has caused and is causing all the trouble in the Middle East and has brought grief and heartache to millions of people who have violated the command of God and to millions of people who are children and grandchildren of those who have violated the command of God. Marriage is a yoke, and we are plainly commanded not to yoke up with unbelievers.
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Because we all know that unbelievers are evil, immoral devil worshipers who eat babies. Best not to let their blood mix with the pure blood of fine, upstanding Christians.
White supremacists say the same thing Jack does about marrying outside your race.
{ahem} Naomi's son and Ruth? The implication seems to be that Ruth was at first not a worshiper of Yhwh, thus Naomi telling Ruth that it would probably be best for her to return to her original city, and its particular Baalim. That Ruth has decided to follow Naomi's god is a little beside the point, methinks...
Jezeus: Anything except. Hyles was a major fundamentalist archon, and had several children. He was ALSO a rather remarkable adulterer...
"Plainly commanded?" Paul suggests that Christians avoid marrying non-Christians because it creates an awkward situation. He would not have considered his letters to be holy writ, and while it's a good suggestion, it's good because it's practical, not because it's God's command. He also gives advice on how to make interfaith marriages work, which I'd say indicates pretty clearly that he didn't consider them totally out of the question.
Also, the tower of babel? really? of all the points in the OT where marrying people of other religions or cultures is actually condemned you managed to pick out a story that has nothing whatsoever to do with marriage at all. nice going...
Ah, the reverse slippery slope. Since Gay marriage is banned based on our beliefs, we can ban all other marriages we don't like.
I can just imagine judges and managers complaining about being sued for not giving interfaith couples the same rights as Christian couples.
Hey, don't worry. I have absolutely no interest in marrying any of your ilk. In fact, I have no interest in marriage at all. Just imagine; all my life I will have extramarital relations! Oh, the horror! Hehehe, sorry. I don't want to be mean. I just find this funny, that's all.
Really? Well, I suppose we had all better listen to what Jack Hyles says on this. He's obviously a pre-eminent authority on the will of God. I think I read something different somewhere once . . . I think it might have been in this one book . . . what was it called again? Oh yeah, the Bible. But, I mean, it was just Paul writing. Who cares what Paul said -- Jack Hyles clearly is a much holier man than Paul. Obviously, we should just assume that Paul was encouraging people to rebel against the will of God when he wrote this:But to the rest speak I, not the Lord: If any brother hath a wife that believeth not, and she be pleased to dwell with him, let him not put her away. And the woman which hath an husband that believeth not, and if he be pleased to dwell with her, let her not leave him. For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy. But if the unbelieving depart, let him depart. A brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases: but God hath called us to peace. For what knowest thou, O wife, whether thou shalt save thy husband? or how knowest thou, O man, whether thou shalt save thy wife?
Marriage is a yoke
I somehow get the feeling somebody's not happy with their spouse.
I thought fundies always said "marriage is the temple of God's grace, God's will, and the fulfillment of God's plan. Now it's a "yoke".
Jeez.
When God's people intermarry with unbelievers, they are rebelling against the Word of God and sinning against God.
You can't throw a dart blindfolded without it hitting something that's a sin. Judaism and later Christianity made it impossible be a normal, sane human being and not break at least a few of your god's weird rules. That was the whole point of the Jesus loophole.
It should be ingrained in every child in his earliest days
Of course. If you get 'em while they're still young they'll be less likely to see it as complete horse shit.
Intermarriage between God's people and the heathen caused the entire world to be destroyed
Damn, so if marry my Christian girlfriend the whole world is gonna explode? Shit, then I'd better just continue having extramarital sex with her. Sure, they're both sins but at least with that option we'll still have a planet to live on.
Marriage is a yoke
Hey, listen. I know people say your wife is a cow but I don't think they mean it literally.
The only thing causing trouble in the Middle East is dumbasses killing people over invisible sky daddies.
I hope you're rotting in hell, asshole.
Don't marry them, don't date them, don't befriend them, you'll dont' even go near them! You'll catch their unsaved cooties!
(Translation: You might hear reasons for not believing in God that Jack doesn't want you to hear.)
Yeah, because keeping your distance and unreasonable hatred towards people who are different causes much less grief and heartache, than intermingle with those who are different, toleration and respect towards others. so well in the past...
"They are also sinning against their unborn children and their children and their children."
1. Please show me anything in the Bible to support this assertion.
2. If this were true, then every birth is predestined? Or do they "sin" against their aborted "unborn childrens' children" too? Either way it must be part of God's alleged plan, so what are you bitching about?
Shorter Jack Hyles: "Unclean! Unclean!"
Don't let there being no logical connection between the origin of different language and Middle Eastern conflict with Christians marrying non-Christian. True believers would never let silly things like facts get in the way of having a firm opinion that everyone should abide by.
You're kidding, right? I thought Christians weren't supposed to care about that sort of thing. The Flood and Tower of Babel are just stories that aren't supposed to be taken literally (as they didn't actually happen) and the root cause of the troubles in the Middle East date back to certain meddling in the first half of the twentieth century, culminating in the Arab-Israeli conflict. You are the first person I have ever heard suggest that it's all because of Christians marrying non-Christians, Jack Hyles. (Does that sort of thing even happen over there?)
You are the role model for one David J. Stewart - a convicted paedophile.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Hyles#Controversies
Not just your argument - but your very existence - is invalid.
...oh, and speaking of invalid, I love what the Wiki editor did in that particular entry (emphasis added):
Born Jack Frasure Hyles September 25, 1926(1926-09-25) Italy, Texas
Died February 6, 2001(2001-02-06) (aged 74)Hell
>:D
It is difficult to mourn Jack Hyles as a human being, because he added little or nothing to the sum of human happiness. It is difficult to mourn him as a human being, because he showed no signs of being one.
I shall be using the same obituary when Fred Phelps does the decent thing, and removes his inferior subhuman presence from our clean, sacred world.
St Paul said something different, you know, that unbelievers are saved through the believer spouse. Who is right?. And the problem with the middle East, should I remind you something that happened IN 1948?. Yes, baby.
In October 1997, an Indianapolis lawyer filed a lawsuit against First Baptist Church of Hammond, accusing the church and its pastor of allowing a mentally retarded woman to be sexually assaulted for six years. The civil suit filed in Lake Superior Court in Gary claims the Chicago woman was "induced by agents" of the church in 1991 to ride a bus to attend Sunday school at First Baptist. While in the care of the church, the lawsuit alleges, the woman was sexually assaulted, molested, battered and raped more than once through fall 1996.[21]
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Jack Hyles was a party to rape, molestation and torture.
But I'm sure someone will be along eventually to try to carry water for bastard.
You heard it here, folks. Inbreed for Jesus, at all costs. Because I'm fairly sure when you split it right down to whichever denomination someone's a member of (Hell, call them all even; There are ~26,000 denominations and about 1 bn Christians), you end up with a gene pool of about 38,461. Give or take.
Somehow, I don't think a lack of inbreeding for Jesus is the source of the Middle East's problems, mind. It might have something to do with three Abrahamic faiths all squabbling over the same patch of wasteland as "holy". On the bright side, if you really did Inbreed For Jaysus, it'd only be about twelve generations before you ran out of unique genetic combinations.
Y'know, I started out thinking this poster was Jewish.
But then he started talking about being saved. And since those who talk about being saved are the most missionary and choice-of-faith-based groups among the 'confessional faiths,' as the people quoting Corinthians pointed out for Christianiy more generally, I want to post the LolWut pear now. But I still don't know how to put pictures into these threads.
I don't really mind it so much when fundies pull THIS one, because fact is they have a point here.
Fundie-atheist relationships ARE doomed to failure. ESPECIALLY when they have kids together. Like a fundie would allow for the kids NOT to be indoctrinated. And like a fundie wouldn't go apeshit if the atheist parents tried to undoctrinate them.
It doesn't work. It just doesn't. It runs into dealbreakers inevitably. And I won't come down on fundies if for once in their life they speak the truth. Because they rarely do that.
Rather late to the party with this (I only took the time to go through the entirety of "Jack Hyles Speaks on Biblical Separation" a couple of days ago), but you might as well know his reasoning.
1. Christians are called on to keep themselves separate from non-saved. This serves two purposes. First, to prevent the saved from being plagued by non-saved ideals (yes, this is the analogy he used. Healthy breath doesn't abolish illness, but rather ill breath abolishes health.). Second, it helps the unsaved to recognize the contrast between themselves and the saved. The implicit assumption is that the unsaved yearn for the vitality of the saved, but if the saved associate with them, the contrast will be confused, and the unsaved will think they have it by conduction.
2. When a saved and infidel have children, the saved's capability of testimony has been compromised (by a seeming hypocrisy, I guess?). The children will more likely slant to the non-hypocritical parent--by Hyles's definition, the non-Christian one.
In my opinion, I believe that people should marry those within the same religious faith as them. However, I do believe that a person should have the right to marry whoever they want, regardless of religion.
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