@Jesus.Christ
"What is true, is true for everyone."
O RLY? So you're actually agreeing wih L. Ron Hubbard? Well, in that case, cop for what the likes of Tom Cruise Control read after many years of Auditing, 'Patter Drills' (talking to walls), making figures out of Plasticine, and paying many hundreds of thousands, if not millions of dollars to read. You may not like what you're about to read too:
http://www.lermanet.com/cisar/russia/ot8.htm
(emphasis added):
'For those of you whose Christian toes I may have stepped on, let me take the opportunity to disabuse you of some lovely myths. For instance, the historic Jesus was not nearly the sainted figure has been made out to be. In addition to being a lover of young boys and men. he was given to uncontrollable bursts of temper and hatred that belied the general message of love, understanding and other typical Marcab PR. You have only to look at the history his teachings inspired to see where it all inevitably leads. It Is historic fact and yet man still clings to the ideal'
And it is Truth - you yourself have admitted so.
When Pontius Pilate asked the extremely simple question of Jesus:
'What is Truth?'
Jesus couldn't answer.
Thus I ask of you the same question:
What is Truth?
I know the answer. Like I say, it's an extremely simple one. I'll give you a clue for free:
'We're all gonna die.'
-Billy Sole (Sonny Landham, "Predator")
Like taxes and HD failures (which is why I back up my data religiously), there is only one real, ultimate Truth: Death.
Rich, poor. Male, Female. Black, white. American, British. Handsome, ugly. Religious, or not. Like we Atheists, you fundies are going to end up looking like leftover pizza: cold, clotted, and stuck to the bottom of a box.
The 'Soul'? An 'Afterlife'? 'Heaven'? 'Hell'? Like O'Brien, the Inner Party and Big Brother in "1984" with their 'Truth' that 2+2=5, religion's 'Truth' is the ultimate Lie.
And why? Simple. Just one word that completely annihilates any & all of religions' so-called 'Truth', in the delusional guise of 'Faith' and 'Belief':
Proof.
No evidence for a 'Soul', 'Afterlife', 'Heaven' and 'Hell' = your 'Truth' = LIES. Prove me wrong.
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Ergo, the only Fact of Life:
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Q.E.D.
(PROTIP: The addition of 'Probably' in that slogan by the British Humanist Society, was purely to conform to Advertising Standards Authority regulations)
Now, unless you can provide me with proof that the 'Soul' exists, along with an 'Afterlife', Heaven' and a 'Hell' exists - in which case, better get that "Sliders"-style dimensional portal generator out; also prove the existence of your 'God' to the satisfaction of we Atheists (and that means him appearing to us in hard, solid, physical form; also him proving he is what he says he is - via him demonstrating his powers - again, to our satisfaction; and that means in my case, he must do whatever I say in perpetuity. Them's the conditions, they're not up for negotiation), then Guest is correct when he says about you:
'He is a troll. On About.com's Agnosticism/Atheism Forum, he ran this argument for years. We finally gagged him for using a sockpuppet to make it look like he was finally winning an atheist over with his "logic".
He has been shown the glaring errors in his logic, not hundreds, but literally thousands of times (on about.com the thread ran to nearly 12 thousand posts).
What he does is act as if you are using any logical fallacy that you demonstrate that he is using.
If he can't find a way to do that, he ignores EVERYTHING that is said to him and just returns to his initial claims that atheists, (for nonsensical "reasons" known only to JC) cannot logically use ANY logical arguments until they FIRST demonstrate they have a logical reason to use logic, but without using any logic to demonstrate that point.
He then claims that only believers can logically use logic because the immutable laws of logic are held inside the mind of his god. By claiming *that* bit of fallacious nonsense, JC claims to have proven not only that believers alone have a logical reason to rely on logic, but to have proven that god exists because logic exists.
While it is glaringly obvious why his non-argument is fallacious -- probably the most fallacious thing you will ever encounter -- he won't back down and he will twist ALL attempts at rational discourse into alleged "proof" that atheists are illogical hypocrites and anything we say only proves that his god exists.
He ran this argument on About.com for almost three years, nearly 12 thousand posts, and he won't be affected by ANY effort to debate rationally.
Again, he is a troll. He is known to use sock puppet accounts to keep his threads going permanently.'
So go ahead. Prove the existence of the 'Soul'.An 'Afterlife'. 'Heaven'. 'Hell'. 'God' to our satisfaction, or be proven that your so-called 'Truth' is nothing but LIES. And that you're nothing more than a troll.
Ergo, Atheism. QED. My 'Belief' is Evidence. My 'Faith' is Facts.
And the one simple Fact: Proof annihilates 'Truth'.
And as for 'Logic':
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As proven by your own quote here (1, 2, C?!), you wouldn't know logic, if a rabid Targ jumped up and raped you.
