Regarding the issue of bipolar, I should point out that the idea of "chemical imbalance," whether it be serotonin or whatever, is a theory that has never been proven scientifically or medically. In fact there are many medical facts about the brain and its chemistry that indicate that this is likely not the cause of this bipolar disorder, clinical depression, schizophrenia, or anything else. The fact that some drugs seem to help some of these disorders is actually something of a mystery to researchers. They really don't know why these drugs seem to help. However, regardless, they do not cure the problem. They only depress the symptoms temporarily.
In this particular case, it is quite obvious that there is a demonic problem. Drugs do not make demons go away. Demons would be more than happy to "behave themselves" better if they can make people think that a drug is helping, as long as they get to stay where they are.
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Primitive, superstitious, cavemen!
We haven't adequately explained EXACTLY how lightning works yet, so that means we should throw away all of our research and ideas and say Zeus did it, right?
He is right that medicine hasn't been able to explain the mechanism of action in many of these drugs, but there is still a pretty good understanding of why they help and what they correct for.
Anyway I love the jump from, science doesn't fully understand it, to it is demons.
I submitted this, its hard to get a good sense from just one post, but it is a scary thread. They have a child who is mentally ill, and instead of treatment they are talking about whether or not you need to fast in order to be effective at casting out demons.
I submitted this, its hard to get a good sense from just one post, but it is a scary thread. They have a child who is mentally ill, and instead of treatment they are talking about whether or not you need to fast in order to be effective at casting out demons.
Gee, the drugs couldn't temporarily correct the theoretical chemical inbalances could they? that might be to logical?
This reminds me of a video I saw in school about the Faith Tabernacle church(or something). They refused all vaccinations and medicines for them and their kids; they had two chidren die of some diseases that could easily have been cured. There was a court battle to try to force treatment, but that didn't work. Poor kids. I remember thinking that we should just quarintine all of them, and wait for them to die out. They had even brainwashed the kids into believing in the garbage. It pissed me off; if they had put those kids up for adoption, the kids would probably be properly functioning members of society. If there is a god and he thinks that we shouldn't have medicines that help us, why do we have them?
That souns like the christian scientists... (not that they have much to do with science... or christianity,a ccording to the rest of the christian faith).
Quite frankly, if there is a god who thinks we should kids die because of things we could easily heal, then SCREW HIM!
I think that the medical profession might be getting carried away with antidepressants and such, but if they're monitored carefully, these things can dramatically help someone cope while their body tries to restore order.
I'm no expert, and the situation might be different in the US than it is here, however, AFAIK its not only the medical profession who overdo it with the anti-depressants - some of them prescribe them even if its clearly not necessary, yes, but its also often the case that patients demand them, and few doctors stand their place and tell them that its propably not necessary and that instead the auses (for example fights at home, to much stress at school, etc.pp. Reading to much about politics can also cause this, but theres no real way to change that, sadly...) should be fixed.
Of course, there are also cases where they ARE necessary (this case, for example), and they can help to assist the changing of the causes.
BTW, just noticed something... if demons are happy to "behave themselves" to let the people think that they are gone, why don't they "behave themselves" to make people believe they aren't there to begin with?
My husband's fundy relatives are opposed to a lot of medical treatments, etc. My parents were shitscared when I married him that I wouldn't be able to get an operation or something if I needed it. It's just awful that any parent would even consider acting like this if they could see their child in pain and misery.
OMG.. look at what someone else posted..
"wow, that does sound like demonic possession.how was the door opened to his mind? how old is he? video games are NOT good even the music is eerie. satan comes to steal kill and destroy. but if that happened to one of my kids who are all in their twenties, you'd better believe that demon would wish he never revealed himself to this angry mouthy mom.i have no spirit of fear and oh, but i get angry at the nerve of that spirit.you need to do a house check and throw out things that is an abomination to GOD .hmm, that would be pictures of "jesus on your walls and statues" anything "holy, christmas,yes christmas is pagan and not our saviors birtday, we are not told to celebrate his day. easter,yes its as pagan as the buck tooth bunny.study these things little lambs.this is not what our savior looks like its a man made image of jesus.our savior cannot be looked upon by our flesh and live read rev,1:12-17 can you put an image on that? i don't think so.the rock and rap kids listen too. my lord,help us. it comes from satan himself.demons know who JESUS is and tremble. mothers you have to be prayed up.you can't have a spirit of fear like so many HAVE 2 TIM.CH1WHEN THAT DEMON SAYS hes HERES HERE TO DESTROY HE MEANS IT. DOES THAT SCARE YOU?IT MAKES ME MADDER.SO WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO NOW? YOU HAVE TO NOT HAVE FEAR AND CAST THAT OUT. BUT YOU HAVE TO CLEANSE THE ROOM OR HE MAY BE BACK. something is attracking this demon. tapes,,things hidden in pictures etc.games. whatever you do, make sure you are prayed up because they don't go easy.though i remind it its JESUS NSME HE HAS TO OBEY BECAUSE HE WAS DEFEATED AT THE CROSS ALREADY. I 'D REMIND HIM THE GREAT SCRIPTURE COLOSSIANS 2:13 AND 14,15the grand reminder. aah, he doesn't like that scripture, READ IT TO HIM AGAIN. GOT A GOOD PASTOR WHOS NOT AFRAID? BE SURE HONEY. GOD BLESS DEB"
So it was demons that made my grandfather refusing to eat, drink or take his medication, leading to his death?
Yeah, that makes fucking sense. Handgrenade, meet mortsmune, mortsmune, meet handgrenade.
The absolute best way for demons to be allowed to "stay where they are" would be to make the possessed person act completely normally. Then no one would ever question whether the person was possessed.
Indeed, it might be even better to make the possessed person voice opposition to demons, to counteract any incipient suspicion. So the more vehemently you speak out against demons, the more likely it is that you are in fact possessed by demons.
Therefore, we can only conclude that mortsmune and other demon opponents are completely and inescapably possessed by demons. The anti-demon front they put up is just that, a camouflage front. And you can't trust anything they say, because it's just the demons talking, trying to keep from being exorcised.
By your logic, why do they act out in the first place? If they just sit tight, and not make any suspicious moves, they stay out of hell, and no one's the wiser.
Mort, please get back on your medication.
Don't listen to what the voices tell you; its not poison. Seriously.
Marching proudly into the 16th century.
As a person currently on anti-depressants to deal with quite serious anxiety issues (they work), fuck you very much.
So, the scientists are unsure about the chemistry imbalance, but not about demons?
How did you manage to come to that utterly ridiculous conclusion, silly?
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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