In 1990, God gave me a vision. He showed me a vision of young people all over the world and how that they were being led astray by music. In more detail he showed me that the white youth of America were being lead astray by the Heavy Metal and Hard-core Metal music fad....
In the same vision, God showed me that Heavy Metal music was not reaching the black youth of America and that the enemy had a greater plan in store for us. He showed me that the enemy was creating a new type of music that would reach far beyond the color barriers that Heavy Metal could.... The music he showed me that would surface is what we now call Hip Hop.
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Since both heavy metal and rap/hip hop were around before 1990 it wouldn't have been much of a prediction even then. It has even less meaning now that you made it up over 20 years after that.
You got it wrong anyway, rock n' roll is the devils music corrupting the minds of the impressionable youth. That evil Elvis gyrating his hips. /snicker
Dear pastor,
you're fogetting Mr. Clean, Mr. Christian, Mr. Right Wing America, Mr. Double Standard, the love object of all white conservative mid-wetsren mommies: Pat Boone!
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Remember him?
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Oops, well he was young and needed the money.
But then the Devil, yes Satan himself caught up with dear old Pat:
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Strange how he first went Christian when his career was slumping and when the Chrissie thing started wearing off, the devil made him go "punk".
It's not Hip Hop you should be scared of, it's PAT BOONE!!!
xtian metal! LMFAO!
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Sounds like God, alright ... people starving to death in Africa, people dying of cancer or being wiped out by earthquakes, and He's worrying about what music we listen to. Just like Jesus: people starving and dying and he's wasting his powers changing water into wine and killing fig trees.
Over the years, the Christian Church in one form or another has condemned all the theatre arts, Ballet, the Minuet, Square Dancing, malt shops, coffee houses, every form of R&B (Rock), card playing, video games, and just about anything you can think of that competes with the collection plate for disposable income and the church for entertainment.
You really need God at this point to tell you how to rant? It's a formula!
LMAO at the idea that hip-hop and metal are similar genres of music.
Also, pretty sure that rap and hip-hop existed in 1990.
Oh, that last line cracks me up. You'd think that they'd prefer hip-hop to something like gangster rap, but these are fundies we're talking about. They still think that dancing is of the devil, most likely. (Isn't this person about thirty years too late to be complaining about hip hop? Even the fundies who go apoplectic at Harry Potter are more recent.)
I find it funny that The Messenger thinks that heavy metal is an exclusively-white phenomenon. One of my good friends is a self-proclaimed metalhead, and he isn't white. (He isn't black either, but still, he's not white.) Ignoring the stupidity of the idea of the devil decided to segregate his evil plans by race, much of heavy metal's sinister reputation is really undeserved. The songs kick ass, for the most part. But I digress...
Funny, I had a vision in 1990 also.
God told me he wasn't sure which Black Sabbath line-up he liked better, Ozzy or Dio.
I told Him that it was all good and then we sparked a doobie and cranked up 'War Pigs'.
:>
And then God showed me another vision, where humanity itself was destroyed (err, deprived of religious fanatacism) by music itself.
Then God showed me something else. It was a beautiful utopian society where women wore black robes that covered all but their eyes, and men were forced to grow beards under penalty of death...
Good of God to know about Hip Hop in 1990! It had, after all, only existed in some form of other for about twenty years then...
During my teenage years, in the eighties before God was aware of popular music apparently, I liked neither heavy metal nor hip hop. To be fair, I didn't live in America either.
However; what about all other music-styles? Punk, synthpop, ordinary rock, techno, etc, etc, etc. Are they not leading young people astray, and not-so-young people too perhaps? You don't suddenly forget about music just because you turn 20 or 25 or 35 or 64 (my dad is 64 and he likes music a lot).
Ok so far, according to Fundies:
- Satan wants to bring about world peace.
- Satan wants gender, sexual, racial, and ethnic equality.
- Satan encourages people to think and reason and make their own moral decisions.
- Satan encourages personal freedom, control over one's own body and mind.
- Satan doesn't judge people for being humans with natural flaws and animal urges.
- Satan opposes God. God, the totalitarian overlord who has murdered millions of people arbitrarily, ordered wars, killed infants out of spite, oppressed minorities, and still blames his own creation for being flawed.
- Satan created Metal and Rock music. (And supposedly rap and hiphop, but everyone makes mistakes.)
That's it, I'm going Satanist.
Blah, blah, blah, modern music is of teh debbil, blah, blah.
When are you religiously impaired idiot going to get a new song. I've heard this one too many times already.
So, instead of ending poverty, starvation, disease etc., 'God' decided to tell you about some music he didn't like?
Your deity is a dick.
@Old Viking:
In a good way, you mean?
I wish we lived in a world where the worst thing we had to worry about was music.
(@QuasiRodent, you make a persuasive case.)
I always wish these people had heard of zeuhl. That would give them something to cry "satanic!" about.
(It's a style of music created by a French jazz drummer who saw a "vision of humanity's future" while he was high. It sounds like Frank Zappa trying to do Gregorian chants.)
The Messenger, thanks for bringing this word of knowledge. I will check out your site. I agree wholeheartedly. The roots of hip-hop are demonstrably satanic, with ties to Freemasonry and the occult lurking under the surface. Do some google research on Jay Z, a leading figure in the movement. He has been photographed wearing a T-shirt with baphomet (an ocecult depiction of the devil) on it, throwing devil horn signals and wearing a sweatshirt that has a slogan from Satanism on it, 'Do Whatever You Want.' Hip hop (and rap) have been instrumental in the assault on the black family in America.
@ His4Life
Um, why are you responding to the person in some manner as if they'll actually read what you're saying as if they posted here or something? I mean, most people do that on FSTDT but in a sarcastic or making-fun-of way, not actually going "Thanks for that, I agree, I'm gonna check out your site, these are other things that I'm going to add to your music-nonsense".
This site is 'Fundies saying the darndest things' and others responding to such things in funny/satricial but also logical/rational ways. It's amusing to see a fundie responding to a submitted comment as if on the same forum and then adding to said submitted comment with a rant on a Rap artist wearing a 'satan' shirt. Your comment on Jay Z is FSTDT worthy in itself.
Actually...I'm going to submit it. It's too good to pass up.
I don't listen to hip-hop or heavy metal, and I'm an atheist. Wrangle that logic into something amusing, would you, Messenger? I could use a laugh.
...What, metal and hip hop are still evil? I thought it was Lady Gaga these days.
*cranks up the Beastie Boys*
hehe, I knew quite a few "black" people who were into Metal back in the day. Also I'm a Metal head who quite likes early Hip-Hop (you know, Sugar Hill Gang, Grandmaster Flash &c). Does that make me doubly evil?
Also I wonder what this guy would make of the Crossover stuff?
Thinking about it, any NYHC would cause this guy's head to 'splode...
/me goes to grab "Rock's Hidden Persuader" to have a read and a laugh :) (does anyone know of any other good insane books about the evils of Metal?)
Satan invented Heavy Metal and Hip-Hop? He just gets cooler every week.
I love how they always think the "satan" association with anything cool will make it bad, but all it does is make Satan cool by association. Exhibit A: Tossing up the horns
Exhibit B: Metal's unending love affair with satanic imagery.
Nice predictions but...Heavy Metal and Hip-Hop both existed before 1990, but thanks for playing!
In turn, as it's now 2011, I predict the mass usage of cell phones! I'm a fucking prophet! Wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
Edited to add: Remember when Twisted Sister was of the debbil? Yeah the debbil's lookin at bit cheezy now.
You cannot kill the Metal, the metal will live on.
The Messenger tried to kill the Metal,
HAHAHAHA, HE FAILED, as he was stricken down, to the ground.
@ His4Life:
...Waaaaaaaait a minute... You don't have your username underlined. The real His4Life has actually registered on this site, and thus gets an underline. You aren't the real His4Life; you're just someone using her name to make her look bad, aren't you?
... You really don't need to go to all that effort, you know.
No, this is me (the woman from the Detroit area who posts regularly). I never registered.
To the point above, my comment was meant to add to the overall discussion. I will check out the website and contact the author directly if I think it's worthwhile. My remarks about Jay Z are not "fstdt worthy,' as they are factual and based on concrete observation. Jay Z has worn both the Baphomet and "Do What Thou Wilt" shirts and has been photographed wearing them. He has also discussed satanism in his lyrics. Google "Jay Z devil worship" to see the evidence and draw your own conclusions
There is even a lyric one of Jay Z's songs, "New York," that says "life begins where the church ends." He also has ties to Freemasonry and may be a member himself. Kanye West is a guy I actually do like to some degree (he presented himself as a Christian early on), but he also appears to be being sucked into this black hole of satanism/occultism in the hip hop scene. Ditto for Rihanna and Beyonce.
Metal and hardcore emerged as not only separate but opposed movements; metal tends towards the right wing, while hardcore emerged from punk and the Left. Sure, over time the hardcore bands that had the easiest time picking up major-label recognition were the faux-hardcore metal posers looking to cash in (hell, the Dead Kennedys devoted a song to y'all -- it's called "Chickenshit Conformist", and the judgment still stands), but the actual hardcore movement was the anti-authoritarian nightmare of metalheads and Christofascists alike (and thus might, in the estimation of the left-with Christians who make up a significant minority of the friends of my own Mahayana Discordian apatheist ass, be described as more Christ-like).
(emph-ass-is added):
"In 1990, God gave me a vision. He showed me a vision of young people all over the world and how that they were being led astray by music. In more detail he showed me that the white youth of America were being lead astray by the Heavy Metal and Hard-core Metal music fad ...."
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http://www.ironmaiden.com/index.php?categoryid=15
Acknowledged as the hardest working band on the planet. Immediate sell-out tours every time. Everywhere . Not for nothing do they have their own airliner, known as 'Ed Force One' (piloted by lead singer Bruce Dickinson himself, no less) to transport them (as well as equipment, roadies, staff etc) to the various ports of call any/everywhere in the world where they perform. Their drummer, Nicko McBrain is a Christian . Go figure.
"Heavy Metal music was not reaching the black youth"
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Phil Lynott. Bassist and lead singer of Heavy Metal group Thin Lizzy. Your argument is invalid.
@Chest Rockwell
Conclusive proof that the words 'Christian' and 'Metal' are mutually exclusive. One word:
Stryper.
I weep. And proof - if ever needed - that the Devil does have all the best tunes!
I agree, hip-hop is crap, but it's just music, it's sound. Metal, hip-hop, Britney Spears; it's all just sound and when you do Fourier analysis on it, all you get is a bunch of sine waves.
Unfortunately I have to acknowledge that many black teens do listen to the same heavy metal and rock music that white teens listen to. Heavy metal is not really tied to any one ethnicity, just as hip hop has crossed cultural boundaries to influence many white kids as well. Both are evil, and it's important for black and white parents to remember that the devil wants ALL of our children, and if we don't work together to stop his vicious attack on America's youth, both the black and white communities will sink.
Yes, that is possible. We know that Bible God prefers to take His ease in the mind of a raging moron. Prefers, indeed, to broadcast His messages of hate and silliness using an intemperate weakling as His mouthpiece. Further, Bible God is entirely at home when luxuriating inside the mind of a brain-addled nincompoop, from where He can issue His interminable streams of nutter-madness.
Transmogrifying a noble human spirit into a phantasm filled with visions of barbarous violence and malicious bigotry appears to be one of Bible God's favourite pastimes. It is from within the comfortable confines of an insane mind that Bible God leisurely indulges in His passions for lying and puppetry.
@HumMis1349
Can't say as I've ever heard of Virgin Black. I've been too busy with work, interests etc to keep up with the HM scene of late, coupled with my abandoning BBC Radio 1 post-passing of John Peel & Tommy Vance (the latter's "Friday Rock Show" was essential listening for we fans of the NWOBHM of yore); the 'disposable bubblegum pop*'-isation of Radio 1 in recent years meant they simply didn't focus more on rock/metal (Peel's sense of the obscure & unknown, and his eclectic tastes - coupled with his promotion of such performers/groups - meant that even with his advanced age, he was ironically seen as the safest pair of hands, ratings-wise by the BBC)
"So in other words, only bland, overly-happy drivel is safe for your soul, is that the way of it?"
This fundie dickhead would have aneurysms if he ever heard any Rammstein, Nine Inch Nails , Einsturzende Neubauten, or Ministry. >:D
@Troll4Life
As opposed to... what? Stryper? Cliff Richard? The phrase 'The Devil has all the best tunes' exists for a reason.
*- I mean, 'R&B'? I don't see no playing the harmonica with a microphone up against it. A la early Rolling Stones. Or Jake & Elwood.
"The music popular with young people today is 'of de debbil'," Version 21,492.2. Never mind that the "vision" was already out of date, even by 1990.
Nothing more to see here, move along...
Hey, uhmmmm, yeah. If you came to this conclusion in the 1990s, it probably wasn't a message from God but one from MTV.
He gave you a vision because you were too bored to have a vision of what´s going on out of your window, that Heavy metal has a big portion of followers in the black population. That it´s less popular, it doesn´t mean that it´s non existent.
Confused?
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