[On the Saudi woman who was sentenced to lashing for driving a car]
Two things I wanted to mention about women driving. First, the seat-belt between the breasts. Second, the stance you have to have when you park a car using reverse gear, it expands the woman's chest...
These are good reasons to dissuade any good Muslim woman from driving.
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ZOMG BOOBS!
What the hell is wrong with these cavemen, horribly scared of tits, butts and everything feminine.
They are either very, very gay or misogynistic fuck that want to have the excuse to rape everything everywhere.
Heavens, no! That might instill... *gasp*... sexual lust in those nearby!* It's unnatural, I tells ya!
*which might help with that whole "be fruitful and multiply" thing, but never mind that.
Seriously? If seeing the vague outlines of a female body under the circus tents they make "good Muslim women" wear in Saudi Arabia is enough to put you in such a state, you need some urgent desensitization therapy! Off to Brazil with you!
That's the problem with these psychotically puritan religions (well, one of the problems): people grow up without learning to deal with even the most basic aspects of sexuality. And then, of course, somehow it's the women's fault that the men can't so much as catch a glimpse of an ankle without starting to foam at the mouth...
What about sitting in a car seat making your man junk all kind of squish up and bulge a little. Its unnatural, and when you operate the peddles you jiggle it about a little bit, and it rubs inside your undergarments?
You should ban men from cars too because their inability to control sexual desires is too much! What about the vibration too - apparently vibrations from moving vehicles can sometimes induce an erection.
You assholes that can't control yourselves should walk everywhere!
@ Ken loves movies
But I want that phat lewt, now!
Now, someone throw aggro.
Aww, what's the matter, 'fraid you'll see a few wrinkles in her sheet and pop a boner like an Amish when he sees ankle?
I love these "boobs get in the way" arguments.
Women have to expand and contract their chests in order to breathe. You'd better start cracking down on that, too.
The fact that you're obsessed with women's breasts is not a valid reason to prevent women from performing any function that requires them to move their torsos.
@JSS
Oh noes! The female body just as Allah made it! We can't be rational and dismiss that idea that every inevitable lustful thought "crime" is an infinite celestial offense!
That's what I thought upon reading the quote, too. Fundies do love to take offense at the supposed handiwork of their god or gods, without ever stopping to ask why the magic sky pixies did it that way in the first place.
What the hell is wrong with these cavemen, horribly scared of tits, butts and everything feminine.
Bewildered ignorance probably plays a greater part than most would ever admit - I gather that in a lot of Islamic societies, sex education currently ranges from abysmally brief and condemnatory to literally non-existent. It's probably quite hard, if one is a young Islamic male, to get some perspective and say "they're just boobs" when said boobs, and that confusing, embarassing effect they produce in one's pants, are a total fucking mystery that nobody else likes to be asked questions about. The whole "always keep women separate and hidden under dark, baggy garments" thing probably only exacerbates the effect. There are a few societies where boobs go uncovered 24/7 and, from what I hear, the people there are refreshingly free of neuroses about the damn things.
Fucking boobs, how do they work?
The irony is, in some Islamic cultures, sex during marriage is extremely important, and a couple are mandated to basically do whatever the other wants. Particularly in Syria, they have a huge market for sexy underwear, dildos, you name it. Alas, marriages are still arranged, so it's down to luck if the person you're supposed to fuck wildly is someone you actually are attracted to.
The irony is, in some Islamic cultures, sex during marriage is extremely important, and a couple are mandated to basically do whatever the other wants. Particularly in Syria, they have a huge market for sexy underwear, dildos, you name it. Alas, marriages are still arranged, so it's down to luck if the person you're supposed to fuck wildly is someone you actually are attracted to.
Ok, being a woman, I can easily refute this. First off, the seatbelt (unless their size OH MY GOD), the belt doesn't go between the breasts. As for the expansion of the chest, it happens with the men as well.
Yes, let's deprive a rather important method of transportation from about 50 percent of the population because of three point seatbelts and the way people park. Seriously, have you ever used your brain in a pragmatic manner? Ever considered that driving is quite vital for many people due to long distances and poor public transportation?
Considering the bags they have women wear in Saudi Arabia, getting a peep at anything is a stretch. Besides, shouldn't you be focusing on your own driving and not the driver of the other car?
As for the seat belt between the breasts, women will have that whether they're driving or simply passengers.
Misogynist moron.
This guy, Rainbow, he gets worse.
It's good to know the other people on the forum are scoffing in incredulity at him. Most of them are reasonable.
Rainbow also sees women as mindlessly materialistic shop-a-holics who are so physically dainty and delicate as to be barely able to carry their own purchases, much less fend off the packs of wild rampaging rapists wandering the streets of Saudi Arabia.
Grade A sexist asshole.
I have natural sexual urges, therefore, women must not be allowed to do the same things men are allowed to do.
You know, if these sexually-repressed idiots would just lighten up a bit, they'd realize they wouldn't have a problem with seeing women's bodies. Like the aforementioned Amish getting aroused at seeing a woman's ankle, the obverse side of that is that you don't see guys walking around with hard-ons all the time at nudist camps. When you see boobies all the time, you're less likely to be aroused when you suddenly see them next to you. It's just another pair of boobs. And I'm willing to bet that the rate of forcible rape is no different in the Western world than it is in the Middle East, even though women here are allowed to drive without wearing burqas in public.
First, the seat-belt between the breasts. Second, the stance you have to have when you park a car using reverse gear, it expands the woman's chest...
Position open!
Female driver wanted! Must have big jiggly tits!
If a woman wearing a seatbelt is obscene to you or sends you into uncontrollable fits of lust, you need therapy, badly.
Also, passengers should wear seatbelts, too, not just drivers, so shouldn't women be banished from riding in automobiles altogether according to your "logic"?
You wouldn't like where my women locate their breasts on the hood of of my imported 72' Lada, in what clothes.
The car is so old that it needs washed by blonde women wearing bikins before it even refuses to move. Sentient thing.
Is rainbow (oh dear God, what an incredibly gay name) that much of a pervert?
Heh, those sound like reasons to PERSUADE women to drive, am I right?
... Why are Muslim fundies so scared of their own sexuality? Is everyone in Saudi Arabia a massively repressed homosexual or something?
Really, that's the only explanation I can think of for a paralyzing fear of breasts.
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Spah creepin' roun' 'ere
Two things I wanted to mention about women driving. First, women drive better than men. Second, men dont like being backseat drivers to women.
These are good reasons to dissuade any good Muslim woman from driving.
FIXED.
Other forum members thankfully shut this fundie down...
"Please don't tell me you just said that women shouldn't be allowed to drive because of *gasp*shock*horror* their BOSOMS! God forbid that a woman drive a car, because it will *gasp*shock*horror* wantonly reveal their bosoms when they put on their seatbelts!
In that case, someone also make it haraam for women to walk outside in anything other than a tent (and I mean a literal one), because anything other than that reveals the fact that a woman has a BODY and should the wind blow, the sun shine extra-bright, or it starts raining, it will reveal that terrible fact and will then reduce every man in sight (and probably out of sight, too) to a shuddering mass of lust-crazed jelly."
So there is hope yet!
At I read the rest of his comment. At least he said he would teach "his woman" to drive in case of an emergency.
Not enough, but I suppose it's something.
Baby steps you ignorant Neanderthal(rainbow), baby steps.
That forum is sort of interesting. I expected people to be commending this asshole. Instead someone said, "Maybe men should lower their gazes, as Allah commanded."
Whooops, there goes the ol' the woman deserved it defense.
It's a well known fact that a pair of human tits can cause chaos among the ranks of Islamic fundamentalists. If an Islamic fundamentalist thinks that his exclusive entitlements and ownership of womens' tits are up for grabs, as it were, then his brain will undergo an emergency partial shutdown so that only base rages and psychopathy will function. This is an attempt by the fundie's brain to swamp his debilitating feelings of inferiority with self-hatred, anger and barbarism, as per Mohammed's instructions.
@Adrian
"Seriously? If seeing the vague outlines of a female body under the circus tents they make "good Muslim women" wear in Saudi Arabia is enough to put you in such a state, you need some urgent desensitization therapy! Off to Brazil with you!"
But Brazilian women are gorgeous! Wouldn't that just make it worse?
This is nothing compared to women shopping. I work on a supermarket checkout, and believe me, when those young ladies with their plunging necklines bend down to get their purses out of their bags down on the floor, it's a view like no other... and I get paid for it!
@whatever
"@Adrian
'Seriously? If seeing the vague outlines of a female body under the circus tents they make "good Muslim women" wear in Saudi Arabia is enough to put you in such a state, you need some urgent desensitization therapy! Off to Brazil with you!'
But Brazilian women are gorgeous! Wouldn't that just make it worse?"
But 'whatever'! THAT'S THE POINT! Desensitization my friend!
OH I GET IT! Brazilian ladies have the big bodacious buns! Fundie guy is badmouthing breasts! Either way, the comment still stands! Ship him to Brazil to get his visual fill of voluptuous Brazilian tushies & tatas until his head explodes with fundie rage & uncontrolable lust! Various Brazilian Public Workers or EMTs can then clean the skull shards, blood & fundy-atrophied brain matter from the street!
> First, the seat-belt between the breasts.
Go on. What about the seat-belt between the breasts?
> Second, the stance you have to have when you park a car using reverse gear, it expands the woman's chest...
Not as bad as the position that a male must assume when repairing something under the hood. It frequently causes the pants to droop, potentially revealing buttocks. It is not very aesthetically pleasing. At least the female mechanics have the sense of using overalls.
Is anyone here old enough to remember when westerners were scandalized by the skimpy, see-through gowns worn by muslim women?
Those little dresses called "mahometan" fashion, that were worn by the flapper girls of the 1920s?
Anyone remember that?
No?
Damm.
@Felis >:3
"Is rainbow (oh dear God, what an incredibly gay name) that much of a pervert?"
Yeah, yesterday I didn't even notice the name, so stunned was I by the fuckwittery, but today it jumped to my eyes: instant ROTFLMAO-mode :P
And it's a screen-name; in other words, he chose that name! Can you say Freudian Slip ?
@whatever:
'Seriously? If seeing the vague outlines of a female body under the circus tents they make "good Muslim women" wear in Saudi Arabia is enough to put you in such a state, you need some urgent desensitization therapy! Off to Brazil with you!'
But Brazilian women are gorgeous! Wouldn't that just make it worse?
Gorgeous and rather lightly covered, yes. As SpukiKitty said, that's the point: either rainbow will learn to handle the female form rationally, or what little brains he has will melt and dribble out of his ears. Either way, we win.
But women in the passenger's seat have to wear seat belts, too. We should keep women out of cars altogether. Make them walk alongside or something. Or maybe they should just stay at home all the time, so no man but their husband sees them breathing.
/sarcasm
@Adrian.
It certainly looks like a Freudian slip. Either he's batting for the other team (nothing wrong there) or he has some sort of closet fetish for diminutive equines.
Hey, let's face it; religious fanatics, especially in ultra-conservative countries like Saudi Arabia, are sexually repressed enough that some would take that option.
Actually, I position the seatbelt to the side of my breasts, not between them. But wait, I'm sure you will have a brilliant answer for that too.
I'll be honest, I've not really paid much attention to the drivers of other vehicles while I'm driving. I'm too busy paying attention to what the vehicles themselves are doing.
If you pay more attention to that, not only will you not be bothered by bosoms, you'll also be less likely to be in an accident...
"These are good reasons to dissuade any good Muslim woman from driving."
Yeah. But apart from those...! Now care to give just one logical reason, rainbow...?
It's okay, I can wait...!
Meanwhile here in the UK, not only are women free to drive, nay, own cars, they can even serve in our armed forces:
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Yes, that's right. A woman pilot of one of our advanced Eurofighter Typhoon planes. Only the best of the best in the RAF flies these. PROTIP: This pic in particular is of a pilot just returned from enforcing the no-fly zone above Libya; also attacking pro-Gaddafi positions, thus helping the rebel fighters in the ousting of Gaddafi. The harness a pilot straps themselves into; the ejector seat/parachute/survival pack, and all that jazz.
Read it and fucking weep, rainbow.
Okay first of all, you're supposed to wear a seat belt in the back seat THAT DOESN'T MATTER!!! And second, men are not supposed to be staring at women, much less their chests. Their eyes are to be towards the ground! So how could you possibly notice that "expanding" chest...and doesn't your chest "expand" everytime you take a breath??!! What now? You saying we shouldn't breath either??!! IDIOT!!! It's imbeciles like you that give Islam a bad name. Making us proper muslims look like sexist, terror loving idjits! GAH!
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