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Later: "You say, "God wouldn't allow such a thing to happen." Sure He will! God allows people to suffer all the time. God allowed Hitler to murder 6,000,000 Jews, did He not? God allowed Herod to kill the children under two years old, did He not (Matthew 2)? If God will allow innocent babies to be murdered, then why wouldn't He allow a Christ rejecting sinner to burn in Hell?"
So much for his infinite mercy, love,
beneficence, mercy, forgiveness, etc.
1/21/2012 6:02:05 PM
Yeah, why don't all the souls just escape through volcanoes? Along with the demons and monsters who are torturing them. Oh wait, its cos it's all made up, isn't it?
1/21/2012 6:28:01 PM
No, you're all completely wrong, when the Cataclysm comes Deathwing has promised us all FIERY PITS OF LAVA and ponies. ALL HAIL THE DESTROYER! ALL HAIL THE TWILIGHT'S HAMMER!
1/21/2012 8:28:41 PM
The sphere of hell is a round, hollowed-out place in your head.
1/21/2012 8:40:35 PM
@Alfador BAH! Only the Alliance has the ponies!
1/21/2012 10:12:35 PM
This all assumes that the Bible is a) factual and b) not using metaphors. Neither is true. You fail.
1/22/2012 1:57:15 AM
OK, now prove it's down or we have every reason to reject what you say.
1/22/2012 4:03:46 AM
So much time spent rationalizing a myth created by bronze age barbarians. Sad, really.
1/22/2012 5:47:56 AM
1/22/2012 6:13:38 AM
"Think about that!"
I'm not convinced.
Do you have another story you want to try to sell me on, or is that the best you have?
1/22/2012 7:32:21 AM
So please tell me why your all good, all loving god wants to send me there?
I honestly expected James here to mention the story of the Russians who dropped a microphone down a deep hole they were digging and heard the sounds of souls in agony like I've seen so many other fundies claim as true.
1/22/2012 8:03:11 AM
Last time I got geology, the magma and the centre of the Earth had no rivers and didn't look, in any way or shape, to Hell, or to voyage to the centre of Earth, for that matter. Stop the urban legend bullshit.
1/22/2012 9:03:35 AM
I think you're on the right path. You might be interested in some research into the origins of religious mythology.
Your interpretation might be different than mine. It has done nothing to change my opinion that it's all bullshit. That said, it's bullshit that's defended fiercely enough to get people killed, so in that respect it has a form of reality. If the paranormal/supernatural/superstition gives you the illusion of some kind of referential integrity, then I guess it's helpful and not completely manipulative. As far as I can tell, it's all imaginary. The big distinction is whether that imagination belongs to you, or someone else.
1/22/2012 9:46:47 AM
Pretty lame stuff.
Edit: Damn it, forgot to log in.
1/22/2012 9:51:38 AM
This is confirmed by Revelation as well, which talks about Satan as "the angel of the bottomless pit." It describes how, in the last days, God will open up the bottomless pit (desscribed as a literal chasm in the earth), and smoke will rise out so thick that it will blot out the sun. Demons will come out of this pit to torment those still on the earth's surface and the souls of the condemned will attempt a final rebellion against God before being wiped out by his wrath.
1/22/2012 11:19:11 AM
I want to say poe but I've met people who believe this.
1/22/2012 12:27:31 PM
Maybe, but I got enough reputation with the Undercity that I can at least ride the skeleton of one. More like a... bony.
1/22/2012 12:28:17 PM
Love me or I'll torment you with fire forever!
1/22/2012 1:34:52 PM
You may be shocked by this, but I don't believe you. Most other Christians don't believe that 'hell' is an actual physical place(they don't think heaven is in the sky and hell is in the earth literally).Intelligent people do not literally believe this either and don't think that hell exists at all.
1/22/2012 2:17:03 PM
Why would a soul be bothered by lava?
1/22/2012 4:26:01 PM
John, God will resurrect both the saved and unsaved on judgment day and they will be given restored physical bodies.
1/22/2012 5:07:51 PM
"God will resurrect both the saved and unsaved on judgment day and they will be given restored physical bodies."
Lava would destroy those bodies in under a minute.
Unless god makes them immortal and indestructible.
Of course, if we had weak and short lived bodies for our real lives, and immortal, perfect bodies for nothing but receiving punishment, that would show god has a screwed up sense of priorities.
1/22/2012 5:37:43 PM
Yes, they will be immortal bodies. The Bible makes this pretty clear. This is why they can be burned but not destroyed.
1/22/2012 7:06:19 PM
I would love to here more about the biology and physics of these "immortal bodies."
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