While I was going to make a standard remark about finally seeing something from someone other than a US Christian here, it needs to be repeatedly mentioned that, for all our griping about extremists in "western" nations, religious fundamentalists in many "developing" nations have enormous amounts of power and are indeed the majority in many cases. These remarks aren't simply from a fringe group; these are major community leaders who support official government policy of the EXECUTION of anyone who isn't heteronormative. That doesn't mean the ones we usually get should be excused for their horrible bigotry, but ones like this warrant more than snarky responses on a website, and at the very least need to be made infamous.
4/27/2012 4:24:56 AM
I hate to disillusion the Ayatollah, but it isn't a new "vice" and all sorts of creatures engage in it.
4/27/2012 4:51:49 AM
Homosexuality has been observed in about 1500 species at last count and it's commonplace in about a third of those. My mother had lesbian cats.
And AIDS did exist before, dimwit. Diseases don't just suddenly appear because your version of the Big Beard said so.
4/27/2012 4:55:58 AM
And this is why we Americans should refuse to give our fundies and inch, lest they take a mile. The fundies of Iran, despite having no popular support, are probably going to stay in power indefinitely. They've already survived not one, but two popular uprisings in the last few years. This is what the fundies want America to be like. Be very afraid.
4/27/2012 4:57:24 AM
The Ayatollah is wrong. And he needs to shut the fuck up.
A thousand years ago homosexuality was openly accepted throughout the islamic world.
The few muslims who were alowed to be soldiers, were nearly all homosexuals.
Most of the non-muslim mercenarys hired by the Caliphs, were homosexuals.
It was EXPECTED of the caliphic guards, that they should be homosexual.
Mamaluke cavalry required all recruits to enlist as pairs of men, as homosexual couples.
Many of the Afghani freedom fighters who resisted British and Russian imperialism between 1830 and 1939... were homosexuals.
As were many of the heroes of Iran who resisted Soviet rule in the 1940s.
The most effective soldiers in Islamic history, were gay men and women... and usualy Sufi.
Seriously, these Wahabi loons are hell bent on cutting off their own sword arm... right when they need it most.
4/27/2012 5:18:43 AM
""Even animals ... dogs and pigs don't engage in this disgusting act [homosexuality]"
You should have looked that up before you opened your dick-hole.
4/27/2012 5:22:35 AM
""Even animals ... dogs and pigs don't engage in this disgusting act [homosexuality]...."
1) Over 1,500 species of animals have been observed to engage in homosexual activity. Only one species has been observed to engage in homophobia. Which one do you think is more natural?
2) Humans are animals.
4/27/2012 5:55:38 AM
What does he care? Iran has not had homosexuals for several years now, according to president Imadinnerjacket.
dogs and pigs don't engage in this disgusting act [homosexuality]
The Ayatollah has never owned a dog, has he?
4/27/2012 6:14:44 AM
homosexuals are inferior to dogs and pigs
I hate to pull a Godwin but what exactly is the difference between the Muslim fundies and the Nazis? Aside from not having a modern army, not much. They hate the same people, they treat those people as worse than animals, and if they had their way they'd rule the world with an iron fist. Thank goodness they don't have all the same modern technology as 1st world nations or I could see them trying to spread their religion by the sword, as religion is so well know to do.
4/27/2012 6:53:47 AM
This scares me. I mean, the fact that you can wield such power while spouting such shit. The majority of people in Iran probably agree with this...sentiment.
Still, it's refreshing. If someone like this son of a recursive time - traveling motherfucker compares western politicians to dogs and pigs, maybe not all is lost for us?
4/27/2012 7:08:37 AM
"Ayatollah Abdollah Javadi-Amoli, an Islamic scholar based in Iran's holy city of Qom, said in a speech among his followers that homosexuals are inferior to dogs and pigs"
A certain Austrian once referred to Jews as 'Untermensch' (inferior subhumans).
Funny then, that the basis of your 'Islamic Revolution', Ayatollah Khomeni, upon return to Iran from exile, what was one of the first things he did, Ab-dolly-ah? Yes, that's right. He issued a fatwa ordering that the very same 'inferior subhumans' as described by said Austrian, specifically Persian Jews, be protected from intimidation of any kind. Iranian Jews still exist in your country, nay, even have positions in your Parliament.
Said Austrian referred to his people as 'Aryans'. The people in & around the area that is modern-day Iran are known as Aryans. Among those said Austrian referred to as 'Ubermensch', and also sent to concentration camps, were homosexuals.
Ergo, Ayatollah Ab-dolly-ah is a Nazi. QED.
He said it, I didn't. [/smartarse]
4/27/2012 7:17:56 AM
4/27/2012 8:57:41 AM
It's nothing new with homosexuality, except the tolerance of it, sadly.
Maybe that is the new "sin" we are committing; treating them like normal human beings? How dare we?!?
Dogs do engage is this "disgusting" act, stupid. I don't know about pigs, but it's present in many other species of animals.
What do you know; God/YHWH/Allah hasn't pushed us tolerant countries yet. AIDS is most rampant among heterosexuals in Africa, very common among Christian and Muslim fundies who are told the use of contraceptives is a sin.
Guess God's aim is as poor as ever...
4/27/2012 9:10:16 AM
@ Ayatollah Abdollah Javadi-Amoli
If Allah hated the idea of gay sex so much why did he make my dick the right size and shape for your asshole?
4/27/2012 9:35:27 AM
Even if they didn't, which they demonstrably do, so fucking what?
Dogs also don't blow the fuck out of each other for retarded reasons like, well, this shit. Think about that.
And homosexuality is a new problem? Tell that to the ancient Greeks. All they ever did was read and bum each other, and not a one of them got AIDS.
4/27/2012 10:18:44 AM
Unless this guy have a direct line to his god or it has been stated specifically in the Koran, his claims and assertions are all bullshit.
Or does Abdollah Javadi-Amoli claim to be the new Prophet of Islam?
4/27/2012 10:41:07 AM
Rumor has it both Santorum and Perry wanted this Javadi-Amoli character as their presidential running mate.
Is there any truth to that?
4/27/2012 1:24:44 PM
Obviously the Ayatollah doesn't spend a lot of time around animals.
His knowledge of medical history is questionable as well.
4/27/2012 2:49:51 PM
You are right Extraintrovert. I'm grateful it isnt like this here in America yet (yes I know there are exceptions before you all come at me) and I'm afraid it's heading in this direction.
This asshole needs to fuck off and, well, diaf.
4/27/2012 4:24:30 PM
If I lived in a city called Qom I'd be inclined to keep a low profile.
4/27/2012 4:46:57 PM
"Ayatollah Abdollah Javadi-Amoli, an Islamic scholar based in Iran's holy city of Qom, said in a speech among his followers that homosexuals are inferior to dogs and pigs, according to the news website Khabaronline."
Hmm. I've never had close contact with pigs, but as a breeder of Bullmastiff dogs I know that I think many people are inferior to dogs. As homosexuals are people, I have to concluded that I would judge some of them inferior to dogs.
"If a society commits a new sin, it will face a new punishment," he said while interpreting Qur'anic verses about prophet Lot whose tribe Isalmic scholars say was punished by God for sodomy. "Problems like Aids did not exist before."
Except that we know AIDS was a disease in chimps before it was in humans and that homosexuality existed long, long, long before AIDS entered the human population. Other than that, you're spot on.
"Citing the Qur'an, Javadi-Amoli said politicians who pass laws in favour of homosexuals are lower than animals. 'Even animals ... dogs and pigs don't engage in this disgusting act [homosexuality] but yet they [western politicians] pass laws in favour of them in their parliaments.'"
There you go again. Here, this is an easy way to remember it: Dog is just an anagram of God, but Ayatollah rhymes with assahola. See? Easy.
4/27/2012 7:10:20 PM
Dog is just an anagram of God, but Ayatollah rhymes with assahola.
And "Ayatollah" is an anagram for "Allah a toy". :)
4/28/2012 12:10:29 AM
eeeeeeeeeyes they do.
4/28/2012 11:42:55 AM
I don't think you realize how old the whole homosexuality thing is.
4/28/2012 2:12:27 PM
Great, not only do fundie Christians claim Sodom actually had its namesake sex act, but now we have fundie Muslims spouting out the same thing.
4/28/2012 2:29:39 PM