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[North Carolina Pastor instructs congregants to beat children who act outside of gender norms.]

So your little son starts to act a little girlish when he is four years old and instead of squashing that like a cockroach and saying, 'Man up, son, get that dress off you and get outside and dig a ditch, because that is what boys do,' you get out the camera and you start taking pictures of Johnny acting like a female and then you upload it to YouTube and everybody laughs about it and the next thing you know, this dude, this kid is acting out childhood fantasies that should have been squashed.

Dads, the second you see your son dropping the limp wrist, you walk over there and crack that wrist. Man up. Give him a good punch. Ok? You are not going to act like that. You were made by God to be a male and you are going to be a male. And when your daughter starts acting too butch, you reign her in. And you say, 'Oh, no, sweetheart. You can play sports. Play them to the glory of God. But sometimes you are going to act like a girl and walk like a girl and talk like a girl and smell like a girl and that means you are going to be beautiful. You are going to be attractive. You are going to dress yourself up.'

Pastor Sean Harris, Huffington Post 92 Comments [5/6/2012 5:18:40 AM]
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Submitted By: Rabbit of Caerbannog
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#1399648
Mayhem

Go for it. Then, when you're old and infirm and can't get out of the chair without help, your abused kid who was taught to man up and not be weak can punch you for being a pussy.

5/6/2012 8:09:52 AM

#1399655
Lizuka

@Reynardine

Asked once on RSTDT, though guess you didn't see it, but you a Gunnerkrigg Court fan?

5/6/2012 8:46:24 AM

#1399659
Swede

I don't think my husband has ever dug a ditch in his life.

There is a very cute picture of my grandfather when he was about four years old (ca 1915). He had long blond hair and a dress-like garment on. He still managed to grow up to be fairly manly-man. He dug ditches and pulled up large roots.

5/6/2012 9:11:28 AM

#1399664
Leighton Buzzard

Ah, fuck off. Sorry, I haven't anything wittier at this time.

5/6/2012 9:24:36 AM

#1399665
Skyknight

@Atheissimo and Reynardine: Having no idea what you mean by Shelltown, what exactly was it, so I might have some idea how you're using it to lance Harris?

5/6/2012 9:25:48 AM

#1399675
Reynardine

Lizuka, I never heard of Gunnerkrigg Court.

Skyknight, you must have grown up all inland. Oceanside, it's a favorite pasttime of kids (and quite a few grownups) to build sandcastles, sand forts, and sand villages, and then, since the tide comes in, it's all to do again.

5/6/2012 9:48:55 AM

#1399689
Ebon

You're just a sadistic asshole, aren't you?

5/6/2012 10:07:14 AM

#1399694
Brendan Rizzo

Is he sexualizing young girls? This also shows that fundies don't want anything to do with ugly people. How shallow can a group possibly get?

5/6/2012 10:16:33 AM

#1399706
Lizuka

@ Reynardine

Ah, just checking. Reason I ask is that a character based on / named after Reynardine's a major member of the cast, and wanted to know if you took the name from him.

5/6/2012 10:52:50 AM

#1399707
Renon

Did this man just seriously advise breaking a four-year-old's hand if they don't conform to his narrow view?

5/6/2012 11:15:05 AM

#1399710
I have one

When my three year old son wanted to put on nailpolish, his daddy got a coughing attack. Then I asked him wheter he wants his son to try on nail polish when he´s three or when he is 13 and rebelling. Few weeks later I saw my husband putting on nailpolish on our son. That was also the easiest way to get his nails clipped, since he got a reward afterwords.

5/6/2012 11:30:08 AM

#1399713
Tina

Yeah, that's the way to stop kids being gay... make sure they just act like their own stereotypical gender. Hey, it worked for me! I'm female, I love pink, and dresses and makeup and jewelry, I'd wear high heels if I didn't have weak ankles. I don't like sports. I like fairies and princesses and stuffed animals. As a child I played with things like dolls and toy kitchens. I've never had short hair in my life, except when it was first growing out when I was a baby. And look how I turned out!

Oh right. I'm 100% lesbian. Oops. Oh well, keep beating your kids and pretending it's anything but sick child abuse, sick fuck.

5/6/2012 11:43:07 AM

#1399714
Reynardine

No, Lizuka, the original Reynardine was a were-fox from a folk ballad of that name. "The sly, bold Reynardine" lived in a green castle and was terribly hard to find. I don't, and I'm not.

5/6/2012 11:44:26 AM

#1399715
Reynardine

Brendan: not so much sexualizing them as training them to be sexualized.

I have had tomcats who adopted female kittens and were kindly, playful, and protective towards them. They were waiting for them to grow up. It's something like that.

5/6/2012 11:47:19 AM

#1399722
Papabear

Son, you need to man up. You were made by God for knuckle-dragging, nose-pickin' and, if you don't get your way, violence.

Daughter, you gotta spend your time lookin' pretty otherwise those shallow boys won't want to marry you and turn you into a baby-spewing, cookin' and cleanin' machine.

5/6/2012 11:57:41 AM

#1399723
Lizuka

@Reynardine

Yeah, I know, just a cast member's based on him. Difference being his main thing is possessing people.

Anyway, yeah. Back on subject, this pastor's a crazy asshole.

5/6/2012 11:59:33 AM

#1399726
checkmate

Dads, the second you see your son dropping the limp wrist, you walk over there and crack that wrist. Man up. Give him a good punch. Ok?

Dads, when you see another dad beating up on his kid, go over and break his fucking jaw, pound his head on the ground, then call the cops. In that order.

Why does Pastor Harris stop half way? If you want to show kids, little boys and little girls, what they're expected to be like, do this: give the boy a blow up sex doll and tell him to stick his little pecker in it like a man, and give the little girl a dildo and tell her her to stick it up her glory hole like a woman.

That's the way God wants things, teach 'em young. No limp wrist, no butch, show them the right way.

No?

smell like a girl

Fishy? ;-)

5/6/2012 12:35:04 PM

#1399730
Reynardine

Lizuka, I am a person who is possessed...by a pride of cats, a hunting dog, and a rooster. But since a number of plants, including a highly aggressive wild rose, also have shares in me, I *almost* live in a green castle, and if I don't trim stuff soon, may soon be hard to find.

5/6/2012 12:54:06 PM

#1399735
Blakey

@#1399593 LAchlan

he will, trust me, he will. This hippie-dude up there who will say*: "Let the little children come to me, and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of heaven belongs to such as these."
has given order accordingly...

CU

*or: "said". As an eternal being I have some problems with your concept of linear time, sorry..

5/6/2012 1:38:35 PM

#1399739
Skatepunk

I haven't an ounce of respect in my entire body for anyone who advocates beating children.

5/6/2012 2:03:48 PM

#1399742
geeky tomboy

Ugh, fuck off. And before all the cool kids think they're superior, the other side focuses on beauty, too.

5/6/2012 2:16:30 PM

#1399744
Osiris

Don't tell Sean Harris that 100 years ago pink was a boys color.

5/6/2012 2:25:13 PM

#1399750
Tempus

@Renon: if anyone dares press him on it, he'll very likely say that no, he doesn't intend for anyone to hurt anyone else, gay or not, he's simply encouraging parents to *nonviolently discipline their children, and how dare you insinuate anything else...

...and once that's out of the way, then he'll continue to use the violent rhetoric, knowing full well what that he actually means what he says. Because this is their response to the anti-bullying campaign--to ramp up the calls for violence, but to try to pretend it's something other than what it is. And when the people who hang on his every word DO decide to "beat the gay out" of a kid, carry it a little too far and wind up killing him or her, Pastor Harris here will cluck his tongue and publicly express surprise, sorry and regret...and then go right back to saying the same things over and over, because this is actually what he and others like him want, for people other than heteronormative straight men and women to be made into harsh examples to encourage others to stay in the closet lest the same thing happen to them.

*for a certain value of "nonviolence."

5/6/2012 3:15:49 PM

#1399754
Old Viking

The fundy solution for anything they perceive as a problem -- usually incorrectly -- is violence.

5/6/2012 3:38:58 PM

#1399772
clockworkgirl21

SpukiKitty, at least he isn't saying to clobber the girls?

He's still advising fathers to break their boys' wrists...

5/6/2012 5:50:41 PM
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