“Inherit the Wind” does a disservice to anyone intelligent, as it barely follows the actual trial and makes caricatures of anyone daring to question the holy gospel of Darwin. If evolution were actually taught with all its flaws and failings, perhaps it would be viewed as more credible as that would be the true scientific method in action. Taught as fact, it pushes the secular agenda while trying desperately to diminish God and the bible, a book “written by men.” “Origin of Species” was a book written by a flawed man, but in the land of the left, the scientist is inerrant, as that is their own, and only, God. Besides themselves.
Some last wise words: Piltdown Man believed in evolution, and it killed him.
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"Inherit the Wind" is what happens to anything made in Hollywood. Overblown drama and cliche's get played to the hilt. Their in it for money, not truth. Also, the bible was written by several flawed men, over a lot of years. And Evolution of today is a bit different then when Darwin discovered it. Also, I don't get the Piltdown man bit.
Let me get this straight:
When somebody misrepresents the Bible, that's heresy.
When somebody misrepresents the Theory of Evolution, that's absolute proof positive that evolution is bunk.
Hmmm.
Piltdown Man believed in evolution, and it killed him.
I don't quite follow...
Piltdown Man was a hoax, but it was science that discovered that.
Also, I don't get the Piltdown man bit.
In other words, because he was not as evolved, he died out.
It's supposed to be a joke.
Of course, the fact that it's also a hoax doesn't help it, either.
You know that there has been 150 years of scientific research to bolster Darwin's original theory, right?
You know that there is nothing in the way of evidence for anything the Bible says in Genesis, right?
You know that Piltdown Man was a hoax uncovered by scientists, right?
We know that scientists aren't infallible, that is why there are a myriad of verification and validation processes for any new discovery.
When was the last time you gave your belief system a serious reality check?
Well, "Inherit the Wind" never claimed to be a documentary of the Scopes Trial, one reason why all the names are different.
The "true scientific method" is somewhat more complicated than determining "Goddidit," which is how Piltdown was exposed as a hoax.
"“Inherit the Wind” does a disservice to anyone intelligent, as it barely follows the actual trial and makes caricatures of anyone daring to question the holy gospel of Darwin "
OK, that's a fair point. The film isn't a documentary and does over-simplify some characters.
The rest is just anti-scientific bollocks. And Piltdown Man was exposed as a hoax by the scientific community.
Did "Inherit the Wind" suck? Yes. Does that make you any less stupid? No. Did you seriously just cite the Piltdown Man in the 21st century?
Yes, and it makes me sad.
If you missed the point , the teacher in the actual scopes trial lost.
Of course the creationist lawyer came out looking like a dick.
Creationism, if taught honestly, would be a great tool for demonstrating what real science is, by being an example of the opposite.
Instead, it pushes the christianist agenda while trying desperately to diminish observable reality, which is real, not a myth, but in the land of the right, the big book-o-fairy tales is inerrant, as that is their own, and only, reality. Besides their own selfish greed.
Some last wise words: We have the fossils. We win.
I advise you not to look to Hollywood for education on any topic. Try a library instead.
Nobody pretends that scientists are inerrant, least of all scientists themselves. The problem is that since science provides the best avenue for progress, fewer and fewer people are turning to the bible to increase their knowledge of the world. That makes fundies crazy. Or crazier.
“Inherit the Wind” does a disservice to anyone intelligent, as it barely follows the actual trial
You can say the same for any movie or TV show about court cases. Real court cases aren't usually dramatic enough to make a movie about. If you want to see the court case as it actually was you're kind of SOL as they 1) don't record court cases on video and 2) hadn't invented the portable camera yet. However, you can read the transcript if you like.
and makes caricatures of anyone daring to question the holy gospel of Darwin
Just like you just made a caricature of anyone that accepts the Theory of Evolution? You kind of lose any right to bitch once you do the very thing you accuse someone else of.
“Origin of Species” was a book written by a flawed man
Yup.
but in the land of the left, the scientist is inerrant
Really? I mean I know people that will treat a scientist's word as inerrant but most people tend to know that scientists make mistakes too.
Piltdown Man believed in evolution, and it killed him.
Evolution kills everyone because life kills everyone. Life is the world's leading cause of death!
"The Ten Commandments" - Cecil B. DeMille, 1956 (remake) Does a disservice to any intelligent person.
Fixed.
Where's your Messiah now, Jaaaake-ass?
Ugh, I lived in Ocean Beach for years, it's an awesome place, this crap is in no way indicative of the type of folks who live there. Shame, shame, shame.
I get it. You didn't like "Inherit the Wind." Fine. It's not a documentary. But if you like documentaries, try this one: "Judgment Day: Intelligent Design on Trial." It was originally a NOVA show and uses the transcripts of the Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School Board trial. It was that trial, incidentally, which showed how ID is actually religion and not science and prevented ID from being taught as science in public schools. Let us know how you like it.
I agree that the movie is more theatric than what actually happened.
Science updates and the intelligent do what they can to keep up. That is the scientific method in action.
Wise words? Do you even know what you are talking about?
Evolution certainly diminishes certain fundamentalist interpretations of the Bible, but it doesn't diminish God. In fact, a god who could start a universe and let it unfold by itself would be a lot more impressive than one who did things as described in the Bible.
Who's more impressive: the pool player who sinks the entire rack on the break shot, or one who has to do it ball by ball?
"Piltdown Man believed in evolution, and it killed him".
Even if Piltdown Man actually existed, that statement would still make no sense.
@Wehpudicabok
Presumably Christians check "none" when asked about their religion.
Uh huh, they check "Personal Relationship with Jesus." Part of the Fundy Word Redefinition Project.
And, Jaaaake, you misspelled a word; It's Some le ast wise words:
Some last wise words: Piltdown Man believed in evolution, and it killed him.
I thought you said wise last words?
Piltdown man was found to be a hoax because he didn't fit in with evolutionary theory.
Yeesh! MISTER 'Jooooke'....
First off, you are an idiot.
Second, Piltdown Man was a hoax & EVERYONE should know that by now!
Third, a prehistoric hominid, even an imaginary British One, IS NOT GOING TO KNOW THE CONCEPT OF "EVOLUTION"! All they know is running around naked & surviving in the wild! That would apply to EVERYBODY long ago! How the heck is a prehistoric somebody gonna believe or not believe in Evolution & why would it kill him/her?
Fourth, I do not want to inherit YOUR wind! Take some Beano! *Phew*!
Inherit the Wind wasn't a documentary, it was a drama based loosely on the Scopes trial. I think it did a darn fine job of illustrating the difference between critical thinking and dogma.
Scientists are not inerrant, and they are certainly not gods. Those are pretty bizarre ideas. "Science knows it doesn't know everything, otherwise it'd stop." - Dara O'Briain.
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