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#1431283
John_in_Oz
Not even your name is right.
8/6/2012 3:55:14 AM
#1431291
Leighton Buzzard
Well, he's right. We are certainly *his* enemy.
(Inasmuch as there is a 'we', that is).
8/6/2012 4:10:40 AM
#1431292
Draken
...referring to Republicans as conservatives when obviously they are not
They're mostly theocrats, but most definitely as conservative as they come.
8/6/2012 4:16:19 AM
#1431295
Leighton Buzzard
Supplemental: I daren't ask who he thinks *are* conservatives.
8/6/2012 4:25:40 AM
#1431297
Voice of Humanity
That list, the one about what we're the enemy of, care to repeat that? It sounds like there's a number of items in there that miiiiight be mutually exclusive.
8/6/2012 4:27:35 AM
#1431312
VoiceofKane
He is right about one thing, that Democrats aren't "the left." More like the "slightly left of center."
However, Republicans aren't conservatives? How in the hell can he justify that?
8/6/2012 4:57:38 AM
#1431313
Doubting Thomas
Republicans aren't conservative?
Maybe if you weren't so focused upon labeling people, you'd see that everyone has the right to voice their opinions even if they disagree with you instead of writing them off as enemies.
8/6/2012 5:01:12 AM
#1431338
Raised by Horses
@Doubting Thomas
Well, technically, they're "neo-liberals" when it comes to economic policy, i.e. deregulate the hell out of everything, and prosperity will magically trickle down upon all of us because markets are perfectly efficient and corporations want us to be well. (This nonsense wasn't true during the Reagan era, and it isn't true today).
I don't think Republicans deserve the title of "conservative", either. It used to be a respectable position, and in some parts of the world it still is (e.g. Britain). They've turned into a bunch of regressive reactionaries, King Knut-ing their way through history and making life a whole lot more difficult for progressives and sane people in general.
Anyway, don't obsess so much over labels. You have to gauge people by their behaviour, which is something that too few people do when it comes to politics. Everyone's looking for some banner to rally behind.
8/6/2012 5:40:26 AM
#1431350
SpukiKitty
I just use the terms Progressive & Regressive and leave it at that, since the "Liberal/Conservative" dichotomy is different for each country, culture & time period.
THE LEFT:
PROGRESSIVE - Martin Luther King Jr., SPLC, PFAW, Susan B. Anthony, Socialism.
REGRESSIVE - Stokley Charmichael, The Weather Underground, The SLA, Andrea Dworkin, Communism (it's only Progressive on a small scale, like in a kibbutz or commune but as a Govt. system it won't work).
THE RIGHT
PROGRESSIVE - Pope John XXIII, Billy Graham (in recent years only), Dwight D. Eisenhower.
REGRESSIVE - Pope Benedict XVI, Jerry Falwell, George W Bush.
8/6/2012 6:05:11 AM
#1431354
Unbeliever
@ SpukiKitty:
Well, historically, the names 'left' and 'right' are just a side-effect of French Revolution. During their Convent meetings, people were sitting with their co-party members, on the left or right side of the hall.
8/6/2012 6:10:08 AM
#1431363
Brendan Rizzo
Is he actually admitting that the Republicans are not conservative, but reactionary? Now we should really be afraid, as the only reason they're admitting this is because that doesn't affect their popularity at this point. That demonization of anyone who believes in equality is just the first step in their evil plans, and knowing Americans, they will just allow them to reach fruition. I really didn't want to say this, but if any political party is the enemy, it's the Republicans.
8/6/2012 6:16:25 AM
#1431364
Mister Spak
How about Nazis? Are they left or conservative? Or are they right in the moderate middle with you?
8/6/2012 6:17:27 AM
#1431392
Berny
The left is the only reason your country is independent of Britain, you stupid fuck. The conservatives at the time certainly didn't want to become independent. That took free thinkers and the right is devoid of them.
The same applies for any progress made by the USA in the ensuing two and a half centuries.
8/6/2012 6:53:27 AM
#1431407
Jeff D.
I can't WTF this. The guy is off base, but not by a lot.
EDIT: Misread the statement, thought he was still talking about Repubs when he started talking about enemies.
8/6/2012 7:19:51 AM
#1431410
breakerslion
A government without free expression of dissent is tyranny... but we know what you want, so long as you're on the receiving end. The fact that you can use "Christendom", a non-existent feudalistic political entity, and, "reality" in the same sentence proves that you have no idea what you're talking about.
8/6/2012 7:24:02 AM
#1431437
Ebon
The Republicans aren't conservative, that much is true. They're right-wing fanatics these days. The Democrats are conservative.
8/6/2012 8:43:17 AM
#1431439
Darwin
"I also think calling them ‘the left’ is misleading — it is like referring to Republicans as conservatives when obviously they are not — but they have made it their practice to obscure any identification of themselves, so we are left without any word that defines them.
Who and what they really are is ‘the enemy.’ They are the enemy of man and God, of freedom and decency, of Western civilization and Christendom, and the enemies of logic and reality. They are the eternal rebels, but they are the victims of deception as deeply and as sadly as they are the practitioners of deceit.
John C. Wright"
Mars Curiosity landed perfectly. Your argument is invalid.
8/6/2012 8:44:06 AM
#1431450
PTR
*Sigh* Another idiot who knows nothing about politics.
8/6/2012 9:11:26 AM
#1431463
The fucking Republican party of America, so far right wing as to be Fascist by the standards of nearly every other country in the world, is not even conservative by this lunatic's definition?
8/6/2012 10:01:21 AM
#1431469
freako104
The far right has been far more opposed to freedom than the left. Also god and christianity too are not pro freedom. Nor fully good
8/6/2012 10:26:39 AM
#1431470
Ludd
So basically you're too stupid to look up where the term 'the Left' comes from so you just go with the most moronic, hyperbolic alternative definition you can come up with? Yep, sounds like typical right winger 'logic'.
8/6/2012 10:27:02 AM
#1431472
Frelus
My first thoughts about this...
8/6/2012 10:30:02 AM
#1431498
Fawful has seen God has a vagina on top of his penis
@SpukiKitty:
Actually, communism is the next step with socialism. It's basically the same thing, only there's no government and people live in communes (as in "Paris Commune" communes, not the hippie kind). So communism is actually the utopia socialism aims for. Stalinist USSR and North Korea? Not communist. China and Vietnam? Not communist either. Cuba? Mostly socialist.
8/6/2012 11:25:19 AM
#1431506
Fundies Make Me Sick
Conservatives/Republicans (they're basically the same as far as I'm concerned) are the enemy of man (true), the enemy of freedom (true), lack any decency (partly true) and wouldn't know God if He came down and knocked them in the back of the head (true).
8/6/2012 11:38:55 AM
#1431514
Nagol
Please, the left are the ones who want freedom and equality for all, while the right wants to take away the rights of gays and women. As for god, you can't be the enemy of something that doesn't exist.
@ Jeff D.
How?
8/6/2012 11:56:47 AM
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