I have no doubt that if someone had to pay your father money and had to marry you if he raped you, that you would not be raped.
I have no doubt that if rapists had to marry the women they raped, then there would be a dramatic decrease in amount of rapes, particularly "date rapes".
So, it would seem that you are in favor of rapes, so long as the women does not have to marry the rapist.
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A rapist is, by definition an asshole. So, if the victim has to marry her rapist, you condemn the victim to living with an asshole.
Also, what do you make of homosexual rapes? Would they have to get married too?
Or, you know, maybe that would give the rapist would have more incentive to kill his victim. Or make sure she couldn't identify him.
What about rapists who are already married? Would you require them to divorce their wives?
Oh riiiight. The Bible's answer to rape. We don't live in a bronze-age culture where a woman's worth is determined based on whether she is a virgin or not. Our laws, thankfully, are a tad more advanced than that.
This is why people think fundies are morons.
And...you would condemn a woman to live with the man who violently assaulted her for the rest of her life?
I have no doubt that if someone had to pay your father money and had to marry you if he raped you, that you would not be raped.
You have no idea how sexual assault works. You have no idea how other people think or feel or act. You are a walking exemplar of the Dunning-Kruger Effect.
I have no doubt that if rapists had to marry the women they raped, then there would be a dramatic decrease in amount of rapes, particularly "date rapes".
And I have no doubt that there would be a dramatic increase in the number of women murdered.
So, it would seem that you are in favor of rapes, so long as the women does not have to marry the rapist.
You are a walking humanoid mass of animated, pinworm-infested excrement. Choke on a chicken bone, you fuck.
"So, it would seem that you are in favor of rapes, so long as the women does not have to marry the rapist."
No, we are not in favor of "rapes", period. Here's your pointy cap. Go sit in the corner and think about what you've said.
That rather relies upon the rapist actually getting caught in the first place.
You know, kind of like the "lock them up" approach we take now which is apparently so much less of a disincentive than getting to marry your victim.
I notice you don't care one bit about the poor woman being raped having to live with the person who caused her severe emotional trauma.
What's to keep a guy from raping the woman he married because he raped her?
Stop trying to make barbaric bible passages look like good ideas. You're not doing yourself any favors.
Let's try this:
I have no doubt that if someone were to be executed if he murdered you, that you would not be murdered.
I have no doubt that if murderers faced a death penalty, then there would be a dramatic decrease in amount of murders.
Yeah, that works fine, doesn't it? Especially in Texas, were the death chamber never has time to accumulate any dust.
I have no doubt that if you were required to marry somone who raped you, that you would be whining about being forced to follow an obsolete legal code.
So it seems, that you are in favor of other people marrying their rapist, but not you.
Ed, I hope a grizzly bears rapes your ass, hands your father twenty bucks, marries you and then rapes your ass daily from that point on.
And what if the woman concerned is already married, and her father is dead...?
Never mind where the Bible's 'morality' on marriage falls down, just this alone (never mind the whole 'Talking Snake' malarkey, and this despite the claims by fundies that the 'Word of God is Truth' *') makes the Bible fall down. Period.
*- Find for me a talking snake. What's that, you say? You can't? Well then. This alone proves that the Bible is nothing but Lies . Ergo scientific Facts - based on Evidence - are superior to your so called 'Truth'.
Yeah because THAT'S a healthy relationship. A rapist and a permanent victim who can be violated all her life until she dies or kills the rapist. Oh, and some men would take that rule as an opportunity to trap women into marrying them. Date's not going well? Have an unhealthy obsessive personality that can't take "no" for an answer? Are you also a complete monster? Just rape the woman of your dreams and suddenly she's yours, by law. Fundies: protecting the rights of rapists since 2000 BC.
No, nobody is in favor of rape, but no one who is sane is in favor of the rape victim living with the prick who violated her in every way imaginable. You're basically condemning her to a life of misery and torture.
So, you're in favor of punishing rapists by forcing them to marry their victims...
...and you're in favor of punishing the victims by forcing them to marry their rapists.
Your moral compass is hopelessly warped.
Oh, so you're saying that if there's unfavorable penalty for commiting a particular crime then people would no longer commit that crime.
Wow. I wish we had thought of that one sooner.
Why should victims of rape be punished for being raped?
And what about male victims, would you force their attackers (both male and female) to marry them? Or women who are sexually assaulted by other women? That would open the door to, dun dun dah! same sex marriage.
"I have no doubt that if someone had to pay your father money and had to marry you if he raped you, that you would not be raped."
Or that you would be raped by someone who wants to marry you but you don't want to... That way they get to marry you, you still get raped, and you get to suffer rape in the marriage as well as having to be married to someone you DON'T WANT TO BE MARRIED TO IN THE FIRST FUCKING PLACE!
Hell, my sister was raped by my grandfather... how the fuck would what you say have done ANYTHING to stop that???
There would be plenty of a**holes who would rape someone just BECAUSE she would have to marry him.
You'd think that the prospect of being locked up for years and years would deter anyone it would be possible to deter. No need to further screw up the victims' lives.
What about gay rape? Are you saying you're in favor of same-sex marriage?
What about rape by or against persons who are already married?
You're not a very deep thinker are you, Eddie?
I have no doubt that if someone had to pay your father money and had to marry you if he raped you, that you would not be raped.
So a rapist would be deterred by paying some money and getting to rape his victim wife again as often as he liked, but wouldn't be deterred by getting 15-to-25? (in the old days, it sometimes carried the death penalty or castration, and there was still rape)
Sooooo...if I see a very attractive female who would otherwise not give me the time of day, what I think you're saying is that I should sexually assault her, pay her dowry fee and I'm good to go right? Awesome!!! (/sarcasm)
NO doubt? You think that it'd be easy or possible to convict a rapist every time? You think a woman would want to come forward about a rape if she knew she may have to fucking be married to the rapist? You really don't think rapists would rape anyway, considering there is already a stiff penalty (jail) if they are convicted? You think paying a fine and marriage would be worse to them than *prison*? You think they wouldn't threaten a woman with death or go ahead and kill her, anyway? Like that doesn't happen, already...
And, okay, say they get married and the rapist can terrorize and basically rape all they want because they're married and dickheads will turn a blind eye to it no matter what the woman says... What exactly would halt him from going out and raping more women if he wants? Would he have to marry them, too? What if a woman who is already married is raped? What if it's incest...?
Rape isn't always a man raping a woman. But somehow I imagine people like Ed don't care about male/male rape, either. Probably believe the "gay homos deserve it."
And, okay, why is this in a post about Chick-Fil-A??
I've seen a few people on the internet defending and promoting this idea. The thing is, if this wasn't in the Bible, NOBODY would be advocating it. Even people like Ed here would recognize such a law as being totally evil and stupid if it were not in his holy book. In fact, on some level they still must, which is why they go through such mental gymnastics to try and justify it.
This is right out of Deuteronomy 22:28-29
Deuteronomy 22:28: If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, 29: he shall pay her father fifty shekels of silver. He must marry the young woman, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives.
Not sure what happens if she's NOT a virgin.
Deuteronomy 22:28: If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, 29: he shall pay her father fifty shekels of silver. He must marry the young woman, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives.
You have to understand the early iron age mentality: boys were valuable to Dad, because they were his pension plan: they could work the farm (for free) after he was old and feeble, with their inheritance (after Dad was dead) being the final payoff. The only value to girls was the $$$ (dowry) they could put in Dad's pocket when they married. For all intents and purposes, they were no different than the family goat: something that Dad could sell to some sex-starved guy for cash.
If a girl was raped, she wasn't a virgin anymore, so no guy would pay a dowry for her - he'd expect her for free. So she'd just be a liability for Dad to get rid of. Therefore, to compensate Dad for his cash loss, the rapist was required to do two things for Dad: (1) pay him the dowry he would have gotten if she had been a virgin, and (2) take her off his hands so he doesn't have to support her any more. What the girl wanted didn't enter into iron age thinking.
There is no way in fucking HELL that I could let that stand.
**** Ed, there's a few things you REALLY need to think about: What's to stop the rapist from
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Hey asshole, that rule about marrying the rape victim comes from a time when rape was viewed not as a crime against the woman, but against the woman's **OWNER**, be that her father or her husband. The reason for the rule was to compensate the OWNER of the woman for "wrecking" her value, and taking on the financial burden FROM THE OWNER, not from the woman. If that's what you want to uphold as moral, then fuck off.
Now, if I was a rapist, I would not stop at rape, I would kill the bitch off, so I don't have to marry her ...
This is exactly how stupid you sound! But who cares about a dead woman!
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