Quote# 90614

I believe sometimes God gives us what we deserve. One of the most disturbing commercials to me was an abortion commercial with a woman whining that "Romney is going to take away our Constitutional Rights ... including a woman's right to choose". Since when has abortion become a constitutional right? I somehow doubt that the Founding Fathers would approve. How sad is it when the "right" to kill a baby in the womb is a huge dividing line in an election. We have moved far away from God as a Nation, and with it goes His blessings. Sometimes God give us what we deserve.

Morningstarlet, Rapture Ready 44 Comments [11/11/2012 6:09:06 AM]
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Leighton Buzzard

Jeez, Louise, there are other issues, you know?

11/11/2012 6:28:36 AM

Filin De Blanc

Apparently it's okay to demand that a woman give up her body to keep a fetus alive, but when an actually born person starts demanding adequate healthcare to keep themselves alive, that's an "entitlement" and they don't deserve any money.

11/11/2012 6:37:17 AM

Jezebel's Evil Sister

"Since when has abortion become a constitutional right?"

Confirmed as a Constitutional right in 1973.
(Ever heard of Roe V. Wade?)

11/11/2012 6:40:56 AM

A blastocyst/non-viable fetus is not a baby.

And if idiots like you were getting what you deserve, you'd be getting a Romney/Ryan presidency in January. Thankfully, the intelligent portion of the electorate saved you from yourselves.

11/11/2012 6:58:25 AM

It's a constitutional right under the right to privacy.

Even if it weren't, the right to control one's own body and not be forced by the state to be an incubator against one's will is a human right no government has the right to bestow or take away.

If men could get pregnant, this debate wouldn't even exist.

11/11/2012 7:05:19 AM


Through established precedent, mainly from a fairy basic reading of the sixth, ninth, and fourteenth amendments.

As for the founding fathers, I should think they had a lot more serious things to worry about than abortion.

11/11/2012 7:12:11 AM


"How sad is it when the "right" to kill a baby in the womb is a huge dividing line in an election."

- I felt the same way when Bush and his cronies turned torture from an unthinkable abomination to an "issue." Ah, but that's different, isn't it? The torture victims had actually been born.

11/11/2012 7:14:09 AM


I doubt God would be opposed to Roe v. Wade with all that dashing of babies against rocks in the Bible. He also thinks ripping open pregnant women makes for good times too.

We have moved far away from God as a Nation

This is a good thing; you theocrats are losing the ability to fuck up our country. Hopefully, the Obama win will have Republicans thinking twice about pandering to your side now.

11/11/2012 7:16:05 AM

Doubting Thomas

Since when has abortion become a constitutional right?

Since 1973. Look it up.

We have moved far away from God as a Nation

Yes, especially with refusing to help the poor or sick like God's son repeatedly told people to do.

Sometimes God give us what we deserve.

Funny how God will punish us for gay marriage and abortion, but not for taking this land from native peoples who lived here before Christians, enslaving Africans and forcing them to come here to work and be owned as property, and refusing to give help to the poor.

11/11/2012 7:45:13 AM

Filin De Blanc

What does Romney care about the unborn anyway? It's not like they pay income tax.

11/11/2012 7:58:03 AM

Deep Search

The right to bodily integrity isn't that big of a deal, huh? Neither is family planning? It's a dividing line because it's important.

And Republicans make it an issue, simply put. They could, yanno, not try to block access to birth control, sex education, and reproductive health services so people just make their own educated choices. Could, but they won't... They'll keep trying to push it as a religious distorted view that should be forced on people, whether they like it or not.

11/11/2012 8:05:24 AM


Err, since the Supreme Court said so in Roe v. Wade. Well, actually what it said is there's a Right to Privacy and the right to choose an abortion is covered by that right.

11/11/2012 8:39:27 AM

Thinking Allowed

You know what else the founding fathers wouldn't approve? They would be rolling in their graves over state sanctioned religion.

11/11/2012 9:40:16 AM


You are correct, it's sad abortion is even an issue, but what would you expect from a party in which a not so small portion believes sodomy laws should come back.

11/11/2012 10:20:48 AM


Up to half of all fertilized eggs fail to implant in the uterus and get flushed out, and a siginificant number of those that do end in a miscarriage. Guess that makes God the biggest abortion provider in the world.

The legal status of abortion does not affect the number of women seeking an abortion. It's just that in countries where it's illegal, more women are killed or permanently injured due to unskilled providers and unsanitary conditions.

Abortion is rarest in countries where comprenensive sex ed is taught, and effective birth control is inexpensive and freely available. The very things you lot are against. In fact, if more women were on birth control, fewer embryos would die due to failing to implant or miscarriage because the egg would never get fertilized in the first place.

But it's not REALLY about saving embryos, is it? It's really about controlling women and punishing them for having sex.

11/11/2012 10:39:26 AM


Since when has abortion become a constitutional right?

Since Roe v. Wade dumbass.

How sad is it when the "right" to kill a baby in the womb is a huge dividing line in an election.

And who made it a dividing line? Which party condemns and blacklists it's own for daring to have a contray opinion on the subject?

11/11/2012 10:45:11 AM


Since when has abortion become a constitutional right?

Since 1973.

11/11/2012 11:02:16 AM


That's right, Starlet. You're supposed to wait till the baby is born, and then you can kill the little fruit of sin when it'll really hurt, with starvation and child labor.

11/11/2012 11:14:50 AM


Whether or not the founding fathers would approve of modern, medical abortions is irrelevant as they had no knowledge of such. You might as well muse that the founding fathers would be against cars, computers or television.

P.S. Remember there were founding fathers who were not your breed of Christians such as the atheist Thomas Paine and Thomas Jefferson who turned your Bible into a small volume by removing the parts he felt false and/or vile.

11/11/2012 11:31:04 AM


You're right. We have. When was the last time we slaughtered a city or village because of unbelievers? Wjen was the last time we had a witch trial and hung the accused? And now Pagans, atheists, Muslims, all other sects of Christianity and Jews can all do our thing and have the first amendment. By getting away from god, we improved as a nation.

11/11/2012 12:07:00 PM



Exactly. Calling it a baby is just so... unscientific, it gives me a headache. It doesn't even have a functional brain yet. There is literally, provably, nothing going on in there.

11/11/2012 12:33:23 PM


But the Founding Fathers approved of a lot of things that we don't, including slavery.
That's because values have moved on since the eighteenth century, often for the better.

11/11/2012 12:36:06 PM


I'm not a huge fan of abortion since killing potential human life is still... significant. But the life of those already born trump that. We should probably worry about those fertilized eggs being flushed out, because there are those who want to get pregnant and cannot and that does not help them at all.

But 75%-79% of abortions are cause by poverty. If you really want to end abortion? Help resolve the financial woes of those who get abortions. Hell, most abortions are done by married women whose family could not support a second child. There's others in the country that cannot have a baby because they need that second income or their ONLY INCOME, but due to lack of paid and unpaid maternity leave setup in America, well... abortion just becomes the only viable option.

If you're going to make abortion the issue, you're going to bring its baggage. Stop trying to define it as a single issue. It's a symptom... of poverty 3/4s of the time. People don't get abortions because it's convenient, they do it because they have no real feasible options.

11/11/2012 12:41:05 PM

A Raptard who's never heard of Roe v Wade? It's a miracle!

11/11/2012 12:53:57 PM

Seeker Lancer

"Since when has abortion become a constitutional right?"

Since the courts decided it was in Roe V. Wade.

11/11/2012 1:05:29 PM

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