I understand how and why the meaning of “going Galt” has changed from it’s origins... It has devolved to something more in-line with “going on strike”. Why? because it’s simply not possible for us to just “disappear” to some unknown location where everybody there understands and lives by the principles of hard work and responsibility... leaving behind a society dependent upon those who have left.
While Ann Rand was truly before her time, she was not a Christian. She was Jewish.
Maybe she got the idea of “Going Galt” from the bible?
You know... where all of a sudden millions of Christians suddenly disappear from the face of the earth resulting in utter chaos?
Maybe she was a Christian... I don’t know... but her solution to Society’s ills sure sounds a lot like a fictitious take on the rapture to me.
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Maybe she got the idea of “Going Galt” from the bible?
You know... where all of a sudden millions of Christians suddenly disappear from the face of the earth resulting in utter chaos?
That's not anywhere in the bible. Maybe if you actually read it, you'd know.
I just looked up Ann Rand. She seems like a perfectly harmless author of children's books, so I don't see what the problem is.
Oh. You meant AYN Rand?
Then learn to spell, jackass.
Ayn Rand is a moron. You take all of go-getters from society and have them create their own society and suddenly that society has nobody that wants to work in the sewers or fight in a war. You have a whole society full of ambitious people who all want to be the alpha dog. Like it or not, you need us "lazy commoners" who are content to just work and make a decent living. You need people who are going to follow the leader. Oh, and as for all of the Randians, they may think they'd be better off in a Randian society but the law of averages says that they're FAR more likely to be stepped on by someone more talented and resourceful than they are. When we had unrestricted business we had monopolies and even those that worked very hard got overtaken by those that had better circumstances or had the advantage of beginning first. In a Randian society you could never hope to challenge a Walmart or a McDonald's.
@anevilmeme
Fundies don't actually read Rand just kike the don't actually read the Bible. I had one call me a liar when I told her that her hero Ayn was an atheist.
I think that is perfect example of fundie-style doublethink. All the time they tell us we shouldn’t accept the Theory of Evolution because Charles Darwin was an atheist/homosexual/Satanist/occultist/communist/pedophile/every-other-thing-they-don’t-like-and-he-never-was.
And then they turn around and praise the “theories” of a real atheist/Russian/libertarian/Social-Darwinist/adulteress*. It’s quite ironic, isn’t it?
*I read somewhere she had an “open relationship” with her husband, but to fundies this shouldn’t matter.
Ethnicity-wise, she was a Jew. Religion-wise whe was probably an atheist.
If she was before her time, she's still before her time; it still doesn't make much sense.
@ Kuno
Correct about the marriage, and part of her philosophy about that was that she was under no obligation to respect anyone else's marriage, either. So, married men, no problem.
Well, they both have this in common; both are completely fictitious fantasies that will never happen. Both are a way to make people who think they are better than everyone else pamper their own egos and feel good about themselves. Both are targeted to people who want to feel "special" and part of an elite. Both only flourish in the United States and not much elsewhere. Both tell you a lot about American society; that there are a lot of privileged, complacent people around who like to think of themselves as individualistic and special and are utterly, hopelessly wrapped up in illusions and cut off from the realities of the world.
I understand how tha fuck n' why tha meanin of âgoin Galtâ has chizzled from itâs origins... It has devolved ta some shiznit mo' in-line wit âgoin on strikeâ. Why, biatch? cuz itâs simply not possible fo' our asses ta just âdisappearâ ta some unknown location where all y'all there understandz n' lives by tha principlez of hard work n' responsibilitizzle... leavin behind a society dependent upon em whoz ass have left.
While Ann Rand was truly before her time, her ass was not a Christian. I aint talkin' bout chicken n' gravy biatch. Right back up in yo muthafuckin ass. Biatch was Jewish.
Maybe her ass gotz tha idea of âGoin Galtâ from tha bible?
Yo Ass know, nahmeean?.. where all of a sudden mazillionz of Christians suddenly disappear from tha grill of tha earth resultin up in utta chaos?
Maybe her ass was a Christian... I donât know, nahmeean?.. but her solution ta Societyâs ills shizzle soundz a shitload like a gangbangin' fictitious take on tha rapture ta mah dirty ass.
Please leave. Go ahead. Go somewhere without someone to mow your lawn or scrub your toilet or ring you out at the grocery store. Go somewhere where you have to pump your own gas, drive your own car, and pay for every inch of road you drive on. But, before you go, don't forget to renounce your US citizenship so that you can't come back in a week when you find out that having to actually work for a living isn't the same thing as going to a five star day spa where you're waited on hand and foot.
"You know... where all of a sudden millions of Christians suddenly disappear from the face of the earth resulting in utter chaos?"
That's the funniest thing I've read in a long time. Oh darn, all the Christians are magically gone. Suddenly we have an enormous surplus of food and resources and one less group of fundamentalists to put up with. Don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out.
...resulting in utter chaos?
Well, the chaos would abate when the month-long celebration ended and people went back to their normal routines with huge smiles of relief on their faces.
And THAT my friends, was the inspiration of BIOSHOCK.
What? Don't believe me?
Andrew Ryan
We Are Ayn Rand
And the city where all the skilled people fled to? RAPTURE!
Not that I agree with this guy, just saiyan.
... millions of Christians suddenly disappear from the face of the earth resulting in utter chaos ...
That's not chaos, it's jubilation.
Uh, dude? Ayn Rand was ethnically Jewish. She wasn't religiously Jewish as such, she was an atheist. She may have been raised in the Jewish religion, but she sure as hell didn't practice it.
I knew I was right. They don't know shit about her and yet they friggin lionize her.
Going Galt should be... going rapture?
>Maybe she got the idea of “Going Galt” from the bible?
>Bible is a work of fiction
Ergo, Ayn Rand's idea is fictional.
"Sheridan
Wait... Aren't fundies supposed to condemn atheists instead of admiring them? But then again you thought a Mormon was God's choice to run a Christian nation."
Umm... Sheridan? Mormonism is a branch of Christianity. Somewhat more bat guano insane than the others, but still a part of the tree.
@SpukiKitty :
I think the zealots would think that as an argument against Rand only if Hickman would have been an “abortion doctor”. As long as kids are out of the womb and they are not yet old enough to send into a war, their life is not worth anything.
@Martha Jones:
They don't know shit about her and yet they friggin lionize her.
Well, they have the same attitude about the bible, so no surprise here.
@Jeff D.:
I think one can find many quotes from Christian zealots on this site who don’t think that Mormonism (or Catholicism for that matter) is Christian.
"While Ann Rand was truly before her time, she was not a Christian. She was Jewish. "
Double fail. It's Ayn not Ann and Ayn was an atheist not Jewish.
Imagine that.
The fucking rapture is a fictitious take on the rapture. It is an unbiblical, ridiculous belief created by people who didn't understand what the hell they were reading.
Besides, AYN Rand (you lose points for spelling) didn't give a damn what your bible said - she was an atheist.
As for me, I'll "Go gurt", I have some Chobani in the fridge. Maybe I'll eat some later on.
Watching The Day The Earth Stood Still = Going Gort
Watching Ghost Adventures = Going Groff (with Bagans, Goodwin & aledged spooks)
Getting sick in a toilet bowl = Going *GROOWWFFFTHKK*
Ayn Rand was a serial-killer groupie who thought that a man who dismembered a child had a beautiful soul because "other people did not exist for him."
She had nothing but utter loathing for religion and for the religious. She hated the concept of communism so much that she created an entire philosophy intended to be the exact opposite of communism, and based it entirely on greed and selfishness undiluted by any trace of compassion or humanity. She regarded empathy and altruism as the highest moral and ethical evils. In fact, Laveyan Satanism is based partially on her philosophy.
She would have regarded the idea of Christian conservatives falling all over themselves to integrate her ideas into their religion and politics as both hilarious and hilariously stupid. She was as close to an antichrist (small-A antichrist) figure as you're going to find.
Safrguns, it is extremely obvious you have never read or researched Ayn Rand or the Bible. If you were an undercover cop in a drug den, you would have just mentioned how you like to snort crack and inject cannabis to enter a hallucinatory trance, and been promptly killed.
You are an idiot.
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