[Elois Zeanah of the Alabama Federation of Republican Women comparing the adoption of Common Core educational standards to the indoctrination of children in Nazi Germany.]
"Remember the quote from Hitler. 'Give me your children and in ten years I will change society.' The Obama administration intends to do just that.... The Obama Administration and progressives have found a way to take away choices from parents and get rid of competition in education, and to add insult to injury, they're gonna force us to pay to indoctrinate our own kids. This is not a novel like '1994,' (sic) it's Common Core."
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"This is not a novel like '1994,' (sic) it's Common Core."
Yeah, you're a perfect advert for old educational standards.
education is not a footrace; no matter what the curriculum used, that does not change what is scientifically true. if you want your children to be taught about the man in the sky and talking donkeys and antique notions on how one should relate to one's rapist, then by all means. that's what sunday school is for.
1994, for those who don't know it, is the sequel to 1984, in which Winston Smith joins forces with James Bond and Sherlock Holmes to take down Big Brother and topple his new Ingsoc world order.
It didn't sell well.
Expect to see more of this shit. Many Republican states have created bills allowing Charter Schools, Entirely to funnel taxpayers money into Christian Schools. At least two of these new schools have been caught fixing grades or eliminating low grades.
In Texas several of these schools have pushed out standard history and science books (of which they've already spent years corrupting, by removing Jefferson for example) in favor of Right-Wing versions, such as David Bartons highly dishonest works. The Dominionists are winning down there, fake Press, fake news and now fake schools.
This is not a novel like '1994,' (sic) it's Common Core.
Proof of why you need more education, not less. If it were up to you people we'd be living in a society identical to the one in Aminal Fram.
Hasn't anyone told these people about Godwin's law?
And 1994! LOL! Leave it to an elected official from Alabamastan to not even know the title of one of the most prominent politically-themed literary works in history.
"Remember the quote from Hitler. 'Give me your children and in ten years I will change society.'
Paraphrasing the old jesuit motto "Give me the child until he is seven and I will give you the man"
Implying that religion fucks up kids quicker than Hitler ever could.
"Remember the quote from Hitler. 'Give me your children and in ten years I will change society.'"
Bush also used that strategy when he set up the no child left unbrainwashed law.
" This is not a novel like '1994,'"
Fundie stupidism strikes again.
Ahh! Education. The bane of retrogressives everywhere. Backward people should object veheuxco, er ...forzcvad, er ...strenuzxcas, er ...a bit. Er, no, I mean ...lots.
Remember the quote from Hitler. 'Give me your children and in ten years I will change society.'
And how did that work out for Hitler? Oh yeah, he was defeated, his empire was demolished, he committed suicide, and his reputation is...well, it's bad enough that every moron compares everyone they hate to him. Oh and Germany can't stand the mention of Hitler.
The Obama administration intends to do just that
Yeah, just like the other hundreds of things Obama was supposed to do just like Hitler. I'm waiting for even ONE of those predictions to come true.
The Obama Administration and progressives have found a way to take away choices from parents and get rid of competition in education
So Obama is taking away the right for kids to go to private schools, homeschool, or to change schools? That bastard! Oh wait, he's just introducing educational standards. Not teaching creationism, astrology, and alchemy is not "getting rid of competition". It's teaching what's true (science) and not what's been proven false (pseudoscience). There is still a TON of competition in science, from how exactly abiogenesis happened to what happened during and before the Big Bang. There's MASSIVE debate about those. What's past the point of debate is whether or not life shares a common ancestry. That's been proven beyond a doubt.
@J. James
"Competition in education"...? Excuse me? Do you mean students competing against one another, or schools competing with... I don't even know what?
I think he means he wants schools to compete against each other so one school teaches evolution and another teaches creationism instead. Which is kind of like letting one school teach that 2+2=4 while another teaches that 2+2=7.
"1994" seriously? It looks like someone was "homeskoold"
You are probably not the one to talk about educational standards.
And the Godwin just killed your argument.
'Give me the child for his first seven years, and I’ll give you the man'
Is what the Jesuits said. Jesu its. As in Christians.
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Alabama. Geographically, not all that far away from the Buckle of the Bible Belt , Texas.
"This is not a novel like '1994,'"
Of course not. But then, you clearly haven't read the book by George Orwell, or you'd know that it's entitled "198 4".
Even if Obama's progressive educational administration 'removes' said choice, at least it teaches infinitely more than - and is by definition more than infinitely superior to - your so-called 'objections' to the Common Core (your so-called 'choice': 'Hoemskuling', which is worse than indoctrination), because your kids will at least know the actual title of said Orwell novel, and therefore will be educationally superior to you , Elois.
...ah, it all fits now! That's the reason why you don't like Common Core: it renders you & your fundie parenting ilk [i]inferior[/i] to not only those who [i]don't[/i] think like you, and who send their kids to public school...!
One more thing, Elois: 'Elois'. Why does that sound familiar...?
Elois. Alois.
This is not a novel like '1994,' (sic) it's Common Core."
I wasn't aware there was a novel entitled "1994".
@J. James, Dionysos: Actually, it's the idea that if schools are forced to compete with each other for students (i.e. the families are customers), they'll HAVE to actively seek out the most high quality elements, which are supposed to be interdicted in public schools by government attempts at saving money and the barricades of bureaucracy. Make schools act like commercial businesses, basically.
Of course, the question is what parents might understand as high quality. And if their definition of quality is "ensures the longevity of our dogma"...
Given that there is no such Hitler quote... and the fact that Hitler himself supported athleticism in schools, and inter-school sports rivalry.
Interestingly. Hitler also lowered standards to alow a greater percentage of Germans to graduate... Kinda like Bush's "No Child Left Behind" policy
The silly part about it is the Common Core Standards were developed as a National Governors Association initiative and not a federal initiative.
The Obama administration offered money as an incentive to adopt "internationally benchmarked standards" which the Common Core claim to be (although, to be honest, some people dispute that claim). This offer of federal funds is probably what gave rise to the conspiracy paranoia.
I've looked at the Common Core Standards and, although I'm not an expert, they look fairly innocuous to me. They appear to be far more focused on skills than content so I'm not sure how anyone could claim they're an attempt to indoctrinate.
Damn, my educational standard was in a completely different universe than some people in the usa i've met. I live in kansas by the way, just to give you indication. But this woman take a dumb cake, definitely.
You're mixing two quotes:
"Give me Germany for ten years and you'll see what I make of it!" - Hitler.
"Give me your child until he is (seven)/(six)/(ten). (You may do what you like after that.)/(I will give you the man.)" - Atributed to various religious personages.
I didn't hear you bitching when Bush put forward "No Child Left Behind," which is exactly what you're railing against.
Also anyone quoting Orwell like a paranoid freak or calling his book "1994" shouldn't be in charge of anybody's education. They should be concerned about their own.
Finally, if you're going to destroy your credibility by invoking Godwin and quoting Hitler, at least try to get the quote right.
I don't know if I'm embarrassed for you or distressed that the people you're reaching out to don't care how stupid you are and agree with your idiocy out of principle.
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