Quote# 93410

In any case, if the average man on the street is innocent and undeserving of God's harsh judgment, then the gospel is unnecessary for most people. But Scripture teaches that everyone has sinned against God and transgressed his laws, so that everyone deserves death and destruction. Once we affirm this, then there is no reason to be shocked when God pours out his wrath upon a group of people, even killing thousands of them all at once. Rather, it is to be expected.


God has always judged sinners through natural and "man-made" disasters, killing thousands of them at a time. This is wholly consistent with his holy and just nature. There is no problem with this other than the fact that many people do not want to believe the truth about God and about themselves. In denying that God is the God of disasters, they assure people that he can be ignored and even mocked with impunity. But this universe is not a democracy, and you cannot democratize or Americanize the kingdom of heaven. You have no rights that would require God to treat you a certain way. With God there is no freedom of religion, no freedom of speech, no freedom of thought – if you believe the wrong thing, say the wrong thing, or even think the wrong thing, God will take it into account and punish you for it, that is, unless you have been saved from his wrath through Jesus Christ.

"This makes God a tyrant," you say. But is God unrighteous unless he conforms to your political theory? This objection itself is evidence of human depravity, and shows that mankind deserves the harshest possible divine punishments. And who says that God cannot be a tyrant? The first definition of a tyrant does not carry the negative connotations often associated with the word, but it is simply "an absolute ruler unrestrained by law or constitution" (Merriam-Webster). No sinful man deserves so much power, but the true God can have no less.

Vincent Cheung, Invincible Faith 65 Comments [3/28/2013 3:40:35 AM]
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"All the bad shit is God - whether it is the acts of man, beast, or freak chance, - except when I don't want it to be His doing. Then it's all your fault."

Right, got the message.

3/28/2013 3:56:18 AM


I don't know why you take pleasure in imagining that you're subject to a cruel and omnipotent dictator, but, luckily for you and all of us, it exists only in your imagination.


3/28/2013 3:59:32 AM


"you cannot democratize or Americanize the kingdom of heaven"

Which should put to rest any notions that America is a Christian nation or that democracy is in the Bible.

3/28/2013 4:01:57 AM


"Killing thousands at a time" is "wholly consistent with his holy and just nature?"

What a lovely god you have there. Thank fuck he doesn't exist.

3/28/2013 4:02:54 AM

Filin De Blanc

"You hear that, everyone who made fun of me at school! You're all going to hell so NYEH!"

3/28/2013 4:06:29 AM


sounds awesome, where do i sign up?

3/28/2013 4:07:54 AM


The god of fundies makes Satan look like a good bloke.

3/28/2013 4:10:59 AM


If we bash this cretin's head in with a hammer, is it Thor's vengeance?

3/28/2013 4:14:22 AM


So god created people to be sinners and then punishes them because of it? Yyyeah how righteous. Feel dat christian love.

3/28/2013 4:34:44 AM


Son of a bitch....that asshole again.

3/28/2013 4:47:03 AM

Doubting Thomas

And they wonder why Christianity is shrinking.

3/28/2013 4:50:47 AM


Fucking hell, and this guy willingly chooses to worship such a beast?

3/28/2013 5:02:43 AM

Broton of Loch Ness

"God has always judged sinners through natural and "man-made" disasters, killing thousands of them at a time."

Citation needed.

3/28/2013 5:05:50 AM



3/28/2013 5:08:07 AM

Baked Goods

With God there is no freedom of religion, no freedom of speech, no freedom of thought

So that whole "free will" thing is just a bunch of gobbledygook then?

Also, this God sounds more like the God of Saudi Arabia, because he certainly doesn't seem very compatible with the American constitution.

3/28/2013 5:14:08 AM


You're off your nut, Vince.

3/28/2013 5:37:07 AM


So in essence, God is the player of our game of The Sims, killing us whenever he gets bored?

Makes an odd amount of sense. Still not going to get me to worship a God like that, even if he did exist.

3/28/2013 5:51:00 AM


"This makes God a tyrant," you say

Yes, I do say that.

It also makes your God a sociopath and Satan the good guy.


3/28/2013 5:56:20 AM


3/28/2013 6:23:26 AM

Hasan Prishtina

In the Book of Genesis, God listens to Abraham's objections over the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah, promising he would not destroy the cities if there were five righteous people there. Vincent Cheung's god makes the god of Genesis look like a kitten.

3/28/2013 6:23:32 AM

Seeker Lancer

So the only reason you should worship God is because he's a cruel, genocidal dictator.

Yeah that's not a good reason.

3/28/2013 6:37:32 AM


Natural disasters are natural. God, being supernatural, doesn't have anything to do with them. Ditto for man-made ones.

3/28/2013 6:40:52 AM


I wonder if he'd be so cold-blooded about it if, say, an earthquake struck tomorrow, destroying his house and killing all his family and loved ones.

I wonder what this person's sexual life is like. Yeah I went there.

3/28/2013 6:50:40 AM

The Crimson Ghost

I love the name of this site...Invincible Faith. More like invisible.

Fuck you, fuck your little jesus character & fuck your silly little god. Grow up.

3/28/2013 6:56:10 AM

David B.

I don't know what's worse, the POS god you describe or the POSs worshipping it.

Oh wait, I do know.

The POS worshippers are worse, because they actually exist.

3/28/2013 7:00:14 AM

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