Quote# 95073

Sure we have. You're just in denial.

For starters, millions have died due to that disease which was once called GAY RELATED IMMUNE DEFICIENCY or GRID), because only Gays got it.

But homosexual activists screamed about 'stigma' and it was changed. Plus, it became clear that homosexuals were also infecting the Normal community through the vectors of them donating blood, sharing infected needles and not telling hetero females that you were also taking it up the poop chute too.

And then there are the thousands of little boys raped by homosexual pederasts. The rate of child sexual assault for homosexuals is far above that of hetero perverts (the ones assaulting underage little girls).

Homosexuals make up 2 percent of the population, yet commit between 25 to 40 percent of all the kiddie-raping. Researchers think that the rate must be even higher, since it is a very under-reported crime.

Look for how long molesting had been taking place in the Church, Boy Scout and Sandusky scandals before they came to light.

There are MILLIONS of reasons why homosexuality is wrong. It is deviant, diseased, deadly and especially dangerous to children.

... you just don't want to admit it.

Mjolnir Hammerschlag , Mediaite 143 Comments [6/20/2013 3:49:07 AM]
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KittyKaboom

There are MILLIONS of reasons why homosexuality is wrong. It is deviant, diseased, deadly and especially dangerous to children.

... you just don't want to admit it.


...except lesbian porn. Because that's fucking hot. Every fundy hypocrite knows that.

6/20/2013 4:24:19 AM

Ebon

Oh, you're just a fucking liar and you know it. The vast majority of pedophiles are straight and the percentage of gay people is a lot closer to 8-10%. You know this, you know full well why your figures are bullshit, you just choose to lie about it so you can have some excuse for your hatred. You're just like the fundie trolls here, clutching at any straw to try and pretend your hatred is about something other than you.

6/20/2013 4:35:46 AM

Reynardine

Major Hammerhead has been trying to knock down brick walls with the bone between his ears again.

6/20/2013 4:38:10 AM

Jackoff Smearnov

@Kitty
Preach it! Four boobs for the price of two!

More to the point, I think "Mjolnir Hammerschlag" is a troll. The name is too ridiculous to take seriously, and most of the fundies I've seen can't spell "deficiency". I call "meh" on this one.

6/20/2013 4:43:27 AM

Passerby

It's hardly only Gays that get AIDS asshat. It's any transfer of blood or bodily fluids.

Funny how all those "gay" pedophiles have no attraction to adult men but lust after women.

6/20/2013 5:00:12 AM

Dogma's Demise

Since we're at this topic, Islam is far more hostile to gay rights than Christianity, at least mainstream Christian theology ignores the Old Testament command to kill homosexuals. That's not the case with Islam, Sharia law is very much alive.

"P17.0 SODOMY AND LESBIANISM
p17.1 In more than one place in the Holy Koran, Allah recounts to us the story of Lot's people, and how
He destroyed them for their wicked practice. There is consensus among both Muslims and the followers
of all other religions that sodomy is an enormity. It is even viler and uglier than adultery."

[remember that adultery is punished by the death penalty]

"p17.2 Allah Most High says:
"Do you approach the males of humanity, leaving the wives Allah has created for you? But you are
a people who transgress" (Koran 26:165-66).
p17.3 The Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) said:
(1) "Kill the one who sodomizes and the one who lets it be done to him."
(2) "May Allah curse him who does what Lot's people did."
(3) "Lesbianism by women is adultery between them." - Reliance of the Traveler (a manual of Islamic law you can find online for free)

But let's see, who are the ones promoting or permitting mass immigration from Muslim countries into Christian/post-Christian countries (Britain, Sweden, Germany, Denmark, France etc. basically western countries)? Ah, yes, the leftists who claim to be for gay rights, conservatives, not so much. Well, your policies are likely to create a very hostile culture for gays in a few generations. The number of Christians may be shrinking, but the number of Muslims is rising. (Don't count on most of them being moderate. Pew Global polls show that a significant number worldwide do want Sharia.)

Of course I don't expect left-wing atheists to ever understand all of this. They'll just continue the propaganda of "Christianity is as bad as Islam" or "Islam is no more dangerous than Christianity" despite mountains of evidence to the contrary.

6/20/2013 5:03:20 AM

Boromir

I see PG13 has got a sock-puppet.

6/20/2013 5:16:46 AM

Malingspann

"I think "Mjolnir Hammerschlag" is a troll. The name is too ridiculous to take seriously"

Plus, the name is inspired by Norse mythology, nothing Christian about it.

Mjolnir was the name of Thor's hammer, Hammerschlag means hammer strike.

6/20/2013 5:17:32 AM

Raymond Dullaghy

@Dogma's Demise

WARNING: THEOLOGY AHEAD
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That is true; in fact, the Bible says surprisingly little about homosexuality.

Most mentions are in the Old Testament. Aside from the Mosaic law, there's the infamous story of Sodom and Gomorrah, and a lesser-known story toward the end of the book of Judges. The latter is pretty gruesome, so it's probably best to leave it at that.

If I remember correctly, the only mention of homosexuality in the New Testament is 1 Timothy 1:10. That verse and the verses verses around it equate it with sexual immorality and other sins, but make no mention of specific penalties for homosexuals (or any of the other sins mentioned, for that matter).

6/20/2013 5:26:20 AM

Dogma's Demise

@Raymond Dullaghy

There is Leviticus 20:13

"If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."

But aside from Christian Reconstructions, Westboro Baptist Church and several other fringe sects, Christian authorities (Orthodox, Catholic, most of Protestant, take your pick) for the most part are not demanding or arguing for the implementation of those laws. They're not considered binding for all time. They're obsolete. Even some of the rabid creationist evangelicals from the Bible belt will often say "we are not under that law anymore".

I'd have no problem with Islam if its political aspects were a thing of the past or only had a tiny influence. As of now, they are not.

6/20/2013 5:38:01 AM

Azaqi

Oh, let me count the wrong.

1. The term "Gay Relatec Immune Defficency" was only a proposed name for a cluster of previously unknown conditions back in 1982. It was never adopted by any medical professionals. Th term HIV/AIDS was not chosen because of gay activists complaining about stigma, but because it is a more accurate and precise descriptor.

2. Pederasty has nothing to do with sexual orientation or even desire. It is not a crime of sex, but of violence, power, and control. Victims are chosen based on opportunity and availability, not gender. Since most pederasts are men, the opportunities for molesting male children are much more plentiful. It should be noted that not only are most pederasts men, but the vast majority of them are heterosexual.

3. The rates of sexual assaults (either adult or child victims) committed by homosexual men are far, far less than those of heterosexuals. Stating an outright lie just makes you look stupid. The data shows that the gender of the victim is irrelevant even when the pederast is, in fact, a homosexual.

4. If you want someone to blame for the pederasty in the church, why are you blaming gays? Why are you not blaming the church for concealing and protecting the predators? Priests are technically supposed to be asexual in their behavior, celibate for life. Why not blame the church for establishing such a ridiculous and irrelevant requirement? Why not blame the church for failing to screen and monitor priests? Most of these priest pederasts aren't even objectively gay, and their victims were chosen for availability, not gender.

5. Why are you blaming gays for the Sandusky shit? Why are you not blaming the organization the protected and overlooked his actions? Sandusky wasn't even gay, again, he was choosing his victims by availability, not gender. Why wasn't he raping little girls? Because parents weren't letting their little girls shower with the man.

6/20/2013 5:40:12 AM

Raymond Dullaghy

@Dogma

Romans 7:6
"But now, by dying to what once bound us, we have been released from the law so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit, and not in the old way of the written code."

The Bible itself says the Mosaic laws are no longer binding. When I made my first post, I thought the "old Mosaic law is obsolete" aspect was assumed. Sorry for the confusion.

Back on topic, I checked Mediaite, and this Mjolnir Hammerschlag guy seems genuine. But his post isn't astonishing compared to the other horrors on this site, so I still call "meh".

6/20/2013 5:47:44 AM

Azaqi

Understand I am not excusing he actions of pederasts, merely pointing out that "gay" does not equal "pedophile," and establishing a causation between them is sloppy and erroneous logic.

6/20/2013 5:48:39 AM

Doubting Thomas

that disease which was once called GAY RELATED IMMUNE DEFICIENCY or GRID), because only Gays got it.

Except all the heterosexuals who also got it.

it became clear that homosexuals were also infecting the Normal community through the vectors of them donating blood, sharing infected needles and not telling hetero females that you were also taking it up the poop chute too.

Why would a strictly gay man ever have sex with a woman? Most likely it was all those "straight" closeted men who met up with other men for anonymous trysts in public restrooms. I wonder how many of them publicly decried homosexuality while secretly getting it on the side?

Look for how long molesting had been taking place in the Church, Boy Scout and Sandusky scandals before they came to light.

Priests are supposed to be celibate, there still aren't any gay adults allowed in the Boy Scouts, and Jerry Sandusky is a married heterosexual pedophile. None of these match the typical gay profile that anti-gay bigots portray. Not that it'd do any good to mention for the billionth time that gay does not mean pedophile.

6/20/2013 5:54:45 AM

Dogma's Demise

He's genuine. I don't see how anyone can think that just because he's called "Thor's Hammer Strike" he's a troll. Doesn't follow.

6/20/2013 6:02:31 AM

Swede

The reason why more boys than girls are molested is that boys are not protected as closely as girls. Pedophiles are after pre-adolescent kids, regardless of gender. Most pedophiles are heterosexuals in their adult relationships.

It wasn't only gays that got the disease, it just spread more in that community than in the heterosexual community, because gay people were restricted to short casual sexual encounters with strangers. Had the tolerance towards gay people been as great then as it is now (not that it's perfect now either), we might never had had an AIDS epidemic.

Is the Church filled with gay priest, is that what you're saying, hammer of Thor?

What's dangerous to children is the prejudices against homosexuals, which have caused thousands of teen suicides.

6/20/2013 6:20:29 AM

UHM

Stop lying. Seriously, we all know you're doing it and those who will believe already agree with you.

"Look for how long molesting had been taking place in the Church, Boy Scout and Sandusky scandals before they came to light."
Yeah, for molesting to come to light it has to have happend first. Doesn't change that the Church and the Boy Scouts always had homosexuals banned - even while those cases were happening. I guess you're arguing to ban them harder?

@Dogma's Demise:
"Since we're at this topic, Islam is far more hostile to gay rights than Christianity, at least mainstream Christian theology ignores the Old Testament command to kill homosexuals. That's not the case with Islam, Sharia law is very much alive."
Just that "practice makes religion" isn't a very, well, any kind of argument that makes sense. There's a fundamental difference between the mythology and philosophy of a religion and its practice - because practice is bound to collide with other factors of society. I grew up with Muslims that prayed towards Mecca, abstained from alcohol and kept abstinence during Ramadan - the same people did not try to impose Sharia law on me, in fact many of them supported social liberal parties. They practiced a very strict form of Islam, but that only on themselves.
What makes the West free for examle isn't Christianity, it's humanism and secularism. That Sharia law stil exists says nothing about Islam, but more about the non-existence of humanism in these countries.

6/20/2013 6:25:46 AM

Ebon

Fundie Christianity would be just as bad as fundie Islam if the law didn't prevent it. They lack opportunity, not inclination. Given the chance, Christian fundies would have us all burned at the stake in a heartbeat and when the law hasn't prevented it, that's exactly what they've done.

6/20/2013 6:26:33 AM

Really?

So, every one of his statistics is wrong, and he has the most jaded and incorrectview of the development of aids possible.

This person fails at thinking.

6/20/2013 6:31:17 AM



If Patient Zero had happened to be a slutty straight guy instead of a slutty gay guy, as it easuly could have been, the beginnings of AIDS outside of Africa would have looked a whole lot different than it did. It would have looked like it does among straight people in Africa today.

6/20/2013 7:05:17 AM

MadmanJohnson

AIDS happens to straight people too.

6/20/2013 7:28:45 AM

JohnTheAtheist

Obviously citations are needed.

Since lesbians seem to not get "GRID" is that activity ok with you?

@KiityK - Lol!

6/20/2013 7:32:56 AM

GigaGuess

Wait, is this guy seriously insinuating that homosexuals intentionally tained the blood supply and infected people?

Seriously?

6/20/2013 8:16:22 AM

Meeeh

Matthew 10:34-36:
10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.

10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.


But then again, the bible is just a swiss army knife of religious ideas. You can find something to support any idea and here we can see the bible is telling us that the old laws have been abolished and that they have NOT been abolished - take your pick depending on todays humidity!

6/20/2013 8:19:21 AM

Dogma's Demise

@Meeeh That's why it's important to note how mainstream Christian denominations see those passages.

I can find influential Islamic scholars quoting 9:29 as justification for warfare against unbelievers.

I can't find any quoting Matthew 10:34-36 as justification for warfare against unbelievers or specifically for killing family members who reject Jesus as a literal reading would imply. But you're welcome to show me.

6/20/2013 8:31:09 AM

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