Quote# 96022

Finally, a Western country has done something sensible. For once I thought that the West is descending into chaos and anarchy because there are so many of them (it all started in 2001 with Netherlands and then most of Western Europe followed the suit - the latest being France and outside Europe the latest victim is Minnesota, USA) doing anti-Godly things by promoting homosexuality masquerading it with the same old excuse of 'human rights and equality'.I was shocked when UN recognised same sex marriage as a 'human right'. But ultimately, sensibility has prevailed. Way to go, Russia! And then the Europeans wonder why their economy is not growing- its because they are displeasing God by promoting homosexuality.

Helventia, Nationstates 31 Comments [8/17/2013 4:11:27 AM]
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Is it a bird? Is it a plane? No, it's just a troll.

8/17/2013 4:28:18 AM


Russia is not now nor has it ever been considered part of the West.

8/17/2013 4:39:14 AM


A troll, yes. But also a stupid one.

Very recently, (indeed, right after it announced support for same sex marriage) the EU economy began crawling out of its slump and begun growing again.

So now we see which side the nonexistent god is on.

8/17/2013 4:53:17 AM


Isn't Russia's economy in the shitter, and isn't the Netherlands still one of the most prosperous countries in the world?

8/17/2013 4:55:51 AM


The UN recognised a right to same-sex marriage? Citation needed, some of my students would be interested in studying that particular declaration.

8/17/2013 6:30:54 AM


Yeah, people call it a human right because it is a human right.

8/17/2013 7:01:35 AM


Per Wikipedia:
As of 2009 real GDP increased by the highest percentage since the fall of the Soviet Union at 8.1%, the ruble remains stable, inflation has been moderate, and investment began to increase again. In 2007 the World Bank declared that the Russian economy had achieved "unprecedented macroeconomic stability".[35] Russia is making progress in meeting its foreign debts obligations. During 2000–01, Russia not only met its external debt services but also made large advance repayments of principal on IMF loans but also built up Central Bank reserves with government budget, trade, and current account surpluses.

The Dutch economy was hit considerably by the ongoing global financial crisis and the ensuing European debt crisis. Several banks went bankrupt, and a number of others had to receive governmental aid. In 2009 the economy declined with 3.5%, followed by two years of mild growth. The Dutch economy is currently in a recession again, with an economic decline of 0.5% in 2012. Inflation is at 2.9% in June 2013. Unemployment has been relatively low compared to other EU nations for decades but after mid-2012 it has seen a fast increase and in May 2013 it has hit 8.3%.

So we can't us their economies to refute 'God's Will' arguments. But Russia per capita income $12,247 vs the netherlands S46,142 is a pretty good way to settle the issue.

8/17/2013 7:12:45 AM


I have a question: if an eminent atheist were to say "way to go, Russia!", what do you suppose the response would be? What if President Obama were to say that?

8/17/2013 8:00:14 AM


"And then the Europeans wonder why their economy is not growing- its because they are displeasing God by promoting homosexuality."
No that was because our banks bought fraudulent bonds from your deragulated banking system, which I hope we will at some point put an embargo on.

8/17/2013 8:17:21 AM

Hasan Prishtina

Helventia doesn't understand the business cycle. And if Russia is part of the West, why has nobody noticed for the last 500 years?

GDP per head (2012 figures)

Minnesota $46,227
Netherlands $46,142
France $41,141
Russia $14,247

I'm seeing a pattern here...

8/17/2013 8:18:29 AM

Liberal Christian

I don't know what he's referring to but Russia has always been a hellhole so I'm not surprised that human rights are not high on their agenda.

8/17/2013 8:30:15 AM


Russia's economy is worse than Western Europe and the US.

8/17/2013 8:40:55 AM


Our economy just grew.

And Germany's didn't really suffer at all.

Russia doesn't belong to the "West".

Uninformed, troll or both.

8/17/2013 9:25:53 AM


Immediate outrage and accusations of communist infiltration.

8/17/2013 9:43:21 AM


These people always seem to attribute big systems governed by the interaction of multiple factors, like the economy, to God, even though in this case it's all the result of the actions of (many, many, many) human beings.

8/17/2013 9:50:48 AM

Qazamir McSmarty Britches

Fundy redefinition:

Chaos and anarchy = human rights and equality.

8/17/2013 10:06:36 AM

Thinking Allowed

Is Russia part of the west now?

8/17/2013 11:26:14 AM

Old Viking

God's back and Russia's got 'im!

8/17/2013 11:28:11 AM


Way to go Russia, by denying basic human rights and publicly shaming people you are encouraging neo-nazis and other extremists to come out of the closet en masse and become as violent as they can get !

Go Russia, go ! God is pleased with you ! I mean sure, all nations in the world say this is madness , and you are still struck by a terrible recession... and you lost all publicity in the Olympic Games you wanted to host, but it's great !

8/17/2013 11:36:09 AM


"Russia! And then the Europeans wonder why their economy is not growing- its because they are displeasing God by promoting homosexuality."

Russia is behind China, in the superpower stakes; certainly technologically. The 2008 Beijing Olympics. Homosexuality is legal in China.

In Soviet USA, Russia becomes more Nazi.

8/17/2013 12:02:27 PM


And in a nice case of serendipity, Helventia doesn't exist anymore on Nationstates. Maybe there is something to this karma thing after all.

That's because the nation is called "Heleventia". Can someone correct the typo above?

8/17/2013 6:43:20 PM

The Crimson Ghost

@ UHM-This poster/troll is not American. "recogniSed" is not the American spelling. Stop assuming that every poster is American.

Smarmy little prick.

8/17/2013 6:53:53 PM


So now Russia has become a WESTERN nation?
The law there is that there are to be no demonstrations, parades or open promotion.

8/17/2013 11:09:59 PM


Russia is just barely a Western country and this is one of the reasons why. Another is that most of Russia is in Asia, only a small part is in Europe. Sure, it's the most inhabited part, but still...

Our economy IS growing! It's slowly getting back from the slump Dubbya Bush's "God-fearing" politics put us all in. The countries with same-sex marriage are the ones growing fastest.

Besides, homosexuality is hardly even mentioned in the Bible, and lesbians not at all. Loving thy neighbor and treating others like you would treat Jesus are much, much more important issues, according to the number of times they are mentioned in the Bible.

8/18/2013 12:56:57 AM


@The Crimson Ghost:
1. I didn't recognize the "recognised". He's also not European though: "And then the Europeans wonder why".
2. While I'm sorry I didn't see the spelling, I'm not sorry for assuming he's American or that the overwhelming majority of quoted people here is, because the overwhelming majority of people here is American.
3. So with all due respect, screw you.

8/18/2013 4:47:46 AM

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