Quote# 96796

[someone asked if there was any proof of a "firmament" having existed]

hold on a minute, this is not a ridiculous claim, and you should give your mother more credibility since she has more experience in life ! Things that you are taught in school and which you read in the popualr media are not always true. I know this to be a fact since I have done years of research in this and other fields.
\ First of all there is no "proof" one way or the other and none will ever be found. However there is a ton of evidence, as I will explain.
I have looked into this matter and researched. it There is strong evidence for example that there was a great flood of which the Bible speaks and which incidentally is recorded in many cultures around the world, not just the Bible. It seems very likely that the flood occurred as a result of a global catastrophic climate change . This was the end of the ice age about 12,500 years ago. Before this great flood the sky was different and no sun or Moon could be seen - just a massive cloud cover.
The great climate change occurred due to some great Earth changes whcih altered the currents of the oceans worldwide. The ocean currents also reciprocate by influencing th climate. The jets streams are also very important in climatology.
This climate change is thought that this was due perhaps to a global 'volcanic winter'; which was triggered by many volcanoes going off at once around the world. This is a very long and complex story and there are many factors to be considered. Remember that the Bible says in Genesis that "the world was barren and laid waste"... this is precisely what would occur in this scenario.
Read up on the Siberian flats or the Deccan Flats for exam,ple. The Siberian Flats is an area in Siberia as big as the continental USA which is covered with volcanoes . The depth of the lava over this entire region is abvout 5000 feet (one mile). There is much to learn about the ancient history of the Earth. and I cant include it all here.
There are even Western scientists who do believe that there was an atomic war on this planet long ago. The evidence can be seen in the rock layers. In fact this is commonly believed in the Hindu philosophy / religion.

Source(s):

research Bible, history, geology, paleontology, climatology, mythology, etc..

Prometheus, Yahoo Answers 28 Comments [9/30/2013 3:28:44 AM]
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Research ... Inigo Montoya, you know the drill.

9/30/2013 4:10:38 AM

Arctic Knight

Alright, who left the padded room unlocked again? The patient has escaped.

9/30/2013 4:16:23 AM

Grimsoncrow

Cracking open the bible is research now?

9/30/2013 4:38:32 AM

Doubting Thomas

Source(s):

... mythology


This person is actually quoting mythology as a source. Yahoo answers, where brain cells go to die.


9/30/2013 5:21:12 AM

MK

So...... is there evidence for a firmament or not?

9/30/2013 5:34:45 AM

Mister Spak

"I have looked into this matter and researched."

Confirmation bias is not research.

9/30/2013 6:07:57 AM

Ebon

There are even Western scientists who do believe that there was an atomic war on this planet long ago. The evidence can be seen in the rock layers. In fact this is commonly believed in the Hindu philosophy / religion.

No, that's Scientologists, you berk.

9/30/2013 6:30:44 AM

dionysus

There are even Western scientists who do believe that there was an atomic war on this planet long ago.

There are probably western scientists who believe that the Earth is flat. I know for certain that there are western scientists who believe that the Earth is only 6000 years old (which you clearly don't agree with). Finding some random scientists who believe crazy things (usually things far outside their field of expertise) proves nothing. Hell, Einstein thought the universe was a steady state universe and that was definitely within his field of expertise.

tl;dr version: it doesn't matter what some random scientists believe, all that matters is that they can show it to be true.

9/30/2013 7:17:28 AM

anothga

Bible and mythology are not a proper research sources.

9/30/2013 7:20:06 AM

Rob aka Mediancat

Effectively saying "Sources: Look it up yourself" doesn't actually count as providing sources.

9/30/2013 7:22:28 AM

Anon-e-moose

"you should give your mother more credibility since she has more experience in life !"

Valentina Tereshkova is at least as old as your mother, perhaps more so. Her experiences.

So, unless the Jim Carrey Film "The Truman Show" is a documentary, and there just happened to be a trapdoor oh so conveniently placed so as the Vostok-1 vehicle she was sent up in didn't collide with that 'Firmament', then you've just admitted that your Bible is worse-than mythology.

...oh, and better not watch the recent Ridley Scott prequel that is your namesake, pal, if you know what's good for you. Certainly the very beginning. [/Erich von Daniken]

9/30/2013 7:30:24 AM

Joe Mama

So, there's no firmament then?

9/30/2013 7:35:41 AM

Titania

"I know this to be a fact since I have done years of research in this and other fields." Then let's see your bona fides and your supporting evidence.

9/30/2013 7:54:26 AM

Don't Shoot the Messenger

Is this some kind of popular fab for fundies to write down "sources" and just add random words to it in an attempt to sound smart?

9/30/2013 8:42:15 AM

breakerslion

"I have looked into this matter and researched."

Reading the Bible while stoned out of your mind, expecting some grand revelation, is not research.

"... and you should give your mother more credibility since she has more experience in life!"

Would that advice hold true for the random old crack whore as well?

9/30/2013 8:44:20 AM

Thinking Allowed

He forgot to list Kent Hovind as a source.

9/30/2013 8:51:11 AM

freako104

If you research the Bible against history or geology or palentology and mythology, you won't like the end result

9/30/2013 10:03:45 AM

Adrian

Protip, Prometheus, having lived longer means precisely squat if you spent all that time with your brain turned off.

9/30/2013 10:41:42 AM

JGC

"There is strong evidence for example that there [NEVER} was a great flood of which the Bible speaks and which incidentally is recorded in many cultures around the world, not just the Bible."

FTFY

9/30/2013 12:31:06 PM

Pule Thamex

My dear Prometheus, thanks ever so much for taking the time to explain these very important points to me. I have talked about your important theories to my doctor, and afterward to some other doctors who I didn't know, but all were scientifically trained and scientifically literate, and all seemed very attentive to what I had to say and were particularly sympathetic to your theories.

The result of my spreading the good news, as it were, is that I am now much calmer and among new friends who avidly listen to whatever I tell them. I have three good meals a day, am comfortable and warm, I sleep quite well at night, have a nice softly furnished room, and have immediate access to medical advice.

Thanks for my new utopian existence is mainly due to you, my good friend Prometheus.

9/30/2013 12:44:19 PM

JohnTheAtheist

So...where is the water? I assume you mean that it came from the "massive cloud cover" but, aside from that asinine statement...where did it all go??? Probably up your ass since there was so much room there after you pulled all your "evidence" from it.

9/30/2013 1:04:55 PM

tracer

So, lemme get this straight:

* There's geological evidence (according to you, anyway) that a worldwide flood occurred at the end of the last Ice Age.

* Therefore, there is a giant invisible dome covering the entire Earth, above which is a huge layer of water.

Sure, that makes sense....

9/30/2013 1:15:27 PM

Old Viking

I thought the Siberian Flats was an apartment complex.

9/30/2013 1:38:20 PM

NonProphet

"Now let me show you how many crazy things I can make up in a single Yahoo! Answers post."

9/30/2013 2:02:04 PM

Lacan

Source(s):

research Bible, history, geology, paleontology, climatology, mythology, etc.


Riiiight. Be honest dumdum, your only source was proctology.

9/30/2013 3:23:49 PM

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