Quote# 97355

Are you serious? People are in danger of burning in hell and you want the fish to come to you? If you saw someone standing on the train tracks with a train barreling down on them, wouldn't you plead with them to get off the tracks? Wouldn't you beg them? I would. This is an emergency. If someone agrees to talk to me, then you better believe that I will try to bring them to Christ. I am so sick and tired of these lazy, afraid to stand up for the Cross, fake Christians. Get mad at me all you want. Call me a bible thumper. I don't care, because if you're a true follower of Christ, then you realize how serious this situation is. People's souls are on the line. We have to do something about it.

ZachMettenberger, Reddit 45 Comments [10/28/2013 3:16:10 AM]
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"If you saw someone standing on the train tracks with a train barreling down on them, wouldn't you plead with them to get off the tracks? Wouldn't you beg them?"
Then again, if that person answered with "The fuck are you talking about? There is no train!" and a bunch of other people standing around each claiming they saw a different thing coming towards the man/woman, I'd just tell him/her to get of the tracks but then leave him/her alone from there.

"We have to do something about it."
How about letting people make their own decisions? There's only in the Bible that you should tell people about it, there's nothing there telling you to scream at them until they agree with you.

10/28/2013 3:27:41 AM


Train can be heard and seen while hell cannot be.

10/28/2013 3:30:51 AM

Qazamir McSmarty Britches

There is no Hell, so how about not pestering people about it.

10/28/2013 3:37:55 AM


So what ZM is saying is that he's going to act like a pr1ck and treat everyone like sh1t but it's for our own good.

10/28/2013 3:41:01 AM


Belief in the afterlife is a great excuse to do bad things, evidence no. 3643896038

10/28/2013 3:46:55 AM

Pule Thamex

Zach, you are a very important person and you do very important work. Your brave stance in the face of overwhelming apathy is eminently credible. Your stalwart defiance of the smug hierarchy is wondrous to behold. Your passionate zeal marks you out as a very special fellow. Someone, somewhere has to save the ludicrous non-believers from the ravening madness of the insane sky beast. That someone is you. You have been chosen. You are the one.

Let us all raise our voices in a hearty cheer for ZachMettenberger (probably German for burger flipper), recruiting officer for the voice in his head. Hip! Hip! etc

Er, Zach, er, am I doing this wrong?

10/28/2013 3:47:57 AM

Arctic Knight

1 Thessalonians 4:11 - And that ye study to be quiet, and to do your own business,

In other words, shut the fuck up and mind your own damn business.

10/28/2013 3:53:57 AM

Eh, I sort of respect this sort of thinking. If one truly thinks hell is a place, one really should try to save as many people from that fate. Thinking people are doomed to hell and doing nothing, or reveling in that, is a bit disturbing.

That's not to say I'm not sad for people who think that, because I do. And obviously question the existence of the train in their analogy. But at least they follow their beliefs through to a moral conclusion.

10/28/2013 4:03:00 AM

Mister Spak

"If you saw someone standing on the train tracks with a train barreling down on them, wouldn't you plead with them to get off the tracks? "

But the train is real. Where is the evidence that hell and/or souls are real?

10/28/2013 4:55:53 AM


Ah yes, the sheer arrogance of the Christian.

10/28/2013 5:05:03 AM

"I ain't looking for help from on high. That's a long wait for a train don't come."

Captain Malcolm Reynolds

10/28/2013 5:06:03 AM

Doubting Thomas

Is this a repost or is the "train barreling down on someone standing on the tracks" a new analogy Christians like to overuse?

Instead of trying to convince all those people to get off the tracks, why not plead with the engineer to stop the train?

10/28/2013 5:19:12 AM

Yeah, well, go be a missionary in New Guinea, then.

10/28/2013 5:33:40 AM


If there is a hell it would only be for those who did evil in life. Otherwise God isn't really just and loving.

10/28/2013 5:34:56 AM


Almost the worst experience of my life was, after getting off the bus, some jesus-happy teenager actually followed me two blocks to a a bookstore telling me all about how jesus would take care of all my ills and all I had to do was accept him as my savior blah, blah, blah. I really had to restrain myself from using the can of oven cleaner I always carry.

Finally got to my destination, got out my cell and called the cops. They decided "he meant well" and, instead of arresting him, told him to get lost.

The point? There is very little difference between witnessing and criminal harrassment with a subsequent face full of oven cleaner.

10/28/2013 5:42:27 AM

The Crimson Ghost

Hopefully Zach will get run over by a train while prosletyzing to a crowded platform of disinterested nonbelievers.

10/28/2013 6:08:57 AM


Here's the thing about this type of analogy: it doesn't work. The Christian analogy is more along the lines of God is going to torture, er, uh, punish you for evil (see Ray Comfort's good person test), and worshipping Jesus is the only thing that can make him stop.

10/28/2013 6:09:54 AM


Except that this train is being driven by an omniscient deity who, nonetheless, refuses to stop the train despite the fact that he knows unaware people will be run over and their lives depend entirely on mortal men who cannot possibly get to everyone before the train runs a few billion people over. Maybe we should be focusing on firing the reckless driver.

10/28/2013 6:15:59 AM


Here's the difference.

You're the only person who can see the train or the track its on. And the people you're screaming at are staring at you because they're on a bus.

10/28/2013 6:27:48 AM

The situation is not serious if you think that it was the same God who is, supposedly, condemning them to Hell, the one that created them in the first place. Maybe it's YOU the problem and the fake Christian.

10/28/2013 6:29:39 AM

We have to do something about it.

Yeah, well, meddling in other people's lives isn't the answer.

How about quietly cleaning up your own corner of the world as an example for others to follow?

10/28/2013 6:55:40 AM


If you saw someone standing on invisible train tracks with an imaginary train barreling down on them, would you plead with them to get off the tracks?

10/28/2013 7:03:59 AM



10/28/2013 7:15:15 AM


Your OCD has been channeled into bringing other gullible saps to Christ the collection plate. Congratulations. Now, explain to me why you couldn't obsess on something productive like pharmaceutical research for cancer or Alzheimer's? That's every bit as repetitive and boring as your "Come to Jesus or burn in Hell" shtick.

10/28/2013 7:16:54 AM

Dr. Shrinker

@ #1599871

"I'm doing this for your own good!"

Yeah, nothing bad has ever come out of that line of thinking, has it?

10/28/2013 7:19:43 AM

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