Are you serious? People are in danger of burning in hell and you want the fish to come to you? If you saw someone standing on the train tracks with a train barreling down on them, wouldn't you plead with them to get off the tracks? Wouldn't you beg them? I would. This is an emergency. If someone agrees to talk to me, then you better believe that I will try to bring them to Christ. I am so sick and tired of these lazy, afraid to stand up for the Cross, fake Christians. Get mad at me all you want. Call me a bible thumper. I don't care, because if you're a true follower of Christ, then you realize how serious this situation is. People's souls are on the line. We have to do something about it.
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"If you saw someone standing on the train tracks with a train barreling down on them, wouldn't you plead with them to get off the tracks? Wouldn't you beg them?"
Then again, if that person answered with "The fuck are you talking about? There is no train!" and a bunch of other people standing around each claiming they saw a different thing coming towards the man/woman, I'd just tell him/her to get of the tracks but then leave him/her alone from there.
"We have to do something about it."
How about letting people make their own decisions? There's only in the Bible that you should tell people about it, there's nothing there telling you to scream at them until they agree with you.
Zach, you are a very important person and you do very important work. Your brave stance in the face of overwhelming apathy is eminently credible. Your stalwart defiance of the smug hierarchy is wondrous to behold. Your passionate zeal marks you out as a very special fellow. Someone, somewhere has to save the ludicrous non-believers from the ravening madness of the insane sky beast. That someone is you. You have been chosen. You are the one.
Let us all raise our voices in a hearty cheer for ZachMettenberger (probably German for burger flipper), recruiting officer for the voice in his head. Hip! Hip! etc
Er, Zach, er, am I doing this wrong?
1 Thessalonians 4:11 - And that ye study to be quiet, and to do your own business,
In other words, shut the fuck up and mind your own damn business.
Eh, I sort of respect this sort of thinking. If one truly thinks hell is a place, one really should try to save as many people from that fate. Thinking people are doomed to hell and doing nothing, or reveling in that, is a bit disturbing.
That's not to say I'm not sad for people who think that, because I do. And obviously question the existence of the train in their analogy. But at least they follow their beliefs through to a moral conclusion.
"If you saw someone standing on the train tracks with a train barreling down on them, wouldn't you plead with them to get off the tracks? "
But the train is real. Where is the evidence that hell and/or souls are real?
Is this a repost or is the "train barreling down on someone standing on the tracks" a new analogy Christians like to overuse?
Instead of trying to convince all those people to get off the tracks, why not plead with the engineer to stop the train?
Almost the worst experience of my life was, after getting off the bus, some jesus-happy teenager actually followed me two blocks to a a bookstore telling me all about how jesus would take care of all my ills and all I had to do was accept him as my savior blah, blah, blah. I really had to restrain myself from using the can of oven cleaner I always carry.
Finally got to my destination, got out my cell and called the cops. They decided "he meant well" and, instead of arresting him, told him to get lost.
The point? There is very little difference between witnessing and criminal harrassment with a subsequent face full of oven cleaner.
Here's the thing about this type of analogy: it doesn't work. The Christian analogy is more along the lines of God is going to torture, er, uh, punish you for evil (see Ray Comfort's good person test), and worshipping Jesus is the only thing that can make him stop.
Except that this train is being driven by an omniscient deity who, nonetheless, refuses to stop the train despite the fact that he knows unaware people will be run over and their lives depend entirely on mortal men who cannot possibly get to everyone before the train runs a few billion people over. Maybe we should be focusing on firing the reckless driver.
The situation is not serious if you think that it was the same God who is, supposedly, condemning them to Hell, the one that created them in the first place. Maybe it's YOU the problem and the fake Christian.
We have to do something about it.
Yeah, well, meddling in other people's lives isn't the answer.
How about quietly cleaning up your own corner of the world as an example for others to follow?
Your OCD has been channeled into bringing other gullible saps to Christ the collection plate. Congratulations. Now, explain to me why you couldn't obsess on something productive like pharmaceutical research for cancer or Alzheimer's? That's every bit as repetitive and boring as your "Come to Jesus or burn in Hell" shtick.
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"I'm doing this for your own good!"
Yeah, nothing bad has ever come out of that line of thinking, has it?
"People are in danger of burning in hell"
Prove that an 'Afterlife' - never mind a 'Hell' - exists first, and to the satisfaction of we Atheists; also that your so-called 'God' exists (again, to our satisfaction, even if it destroys your belie fs in the process), and then we'll listen.
After all, 1 Thessalonians 5:21 (KJV) forces you to.
"People's souls are on the line."
Calm down, wipe the froth from your mouth, and prove your assertions. Otherwise, go sit in the corner with the other nutters and dimwits, and realize the rest of us don't give one little, tiny, itty-bitty f*ck.
Yet you are the only one who sees the train, and, indeed, even the tracks. All I see is someone running around, telling everyone the sky is falling.
well, he's not making homosexuals, women who want to have the option to get an abortion, muslims, poor people, atheists, or anyone else out to be monsters. i think there's a difference between fundie and fervent. meh.
"If you saw someone standing on the train tracks with a train barreling down on them, wouldn't you plead with them to get off the tracks?"
In order for this to be truly analogous to Christianity, you would demand that I worship the maniacal train conductor or he would run me over. Same thing if you used the classic analogy of "If your house was on fire, wouldn't you thank me for warning you?" No, I would kill you for worshiping the arsonist. God created Hell, and God puts you there needlessly.
"If you saw someone standing on the train tracks with a train barreling down on them, wouldn't you plead with them to get off the tracks? Wouldn't you beg them? I would. This is an emergency. If someone agrees to talk to me, then you better believe that I will try to bring them to Christ."
The train exists . But then, if the stupid cunt on said tracks climbed over the road/pavement crossing gates to get to said railway track and stand there deliberately - as opposed to not , and stand behind the gates along with the sane pedestrians/vehicle drivers - then the daft cunt is asking to become two dimensional when that extremely real train impacts him.
Like I say: Prove - as per 1 Thessalonians 5:21 (KJV) - and to our satisfaction, even with belie fs-destroying evidence (or simply being auto-argumentally cornered, when you can't , thus you're doctrinally fucked either way, and again we Atheists are proved right about what we've been saying all along) about this supposed 'Threat' that's supposedly just as 'Real' as said train, or what you claim is equally fucked (and we Atheists are again proved right in what we've been saying all along) via use of Bad Analogy. Your argument is invalid .
Yep. Just two words can completely annihilate anything & everything you say - and your own Scripture (1 Thessalonians 5:21 [KJV]) no less demands that you destroy Scripture in the process:
Prove it.
What a paradox, eh...?! >:D
If you saw someone standing on the train tracks with a train barreling down on them, wouldn't you plead with them to get off the tracks? Wouldn't you beg them?
Sure I would.
Now, if you were standing on the train tracks without a train barreling down on you, and some guy runs up screaming about the train, wouldn't you think that they were unbalanced?
If you're going to claim an emergency, you'd better have a good reason. I'm sorry, but "the Bible says so" isn't sufficient.
I'd just push them off the tracks, as far from the train as possible remember the sap's standing there. Trains (encompassing the locomotive and carriages) have an extremely great momentum, so emergency braking is hardly an option.
1 Corinthians 13:5 (NIV): [Love] does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs.
OP isn't standing up for the Cross or for the love of God, he's using his notion of it as a weapon through imposing his faith on others without knocking at the door, for that matter.
>If someone agrees to talk to me, then you better believe that I will try to bring them to Christ.
Might want to get used to no one talking to you then...
"People are in danger of burning in hell and you want the fish to come to you?"
And your proof that hell even exists would be...what, exactly?
Confused?
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