You know communism or socialism, whatever you want to call it, what is happening in this country is not different than what happened in Cuba; the procedure might be different, they may be a little slower, but it’s the same thing. It is about government control of your lives. You got to realize how Marxist, how socialism works. We need to understand the issues. When you hear all these things about homosexual marriage, this has nothing to do with homosexual rights. Did you know that? The whole objective is the destruction of the traditional family, it has nothing to do with homosexuals, they could care less about homosexuals, they want to destroy the family.
You need to understand, it’s just like evolution. You know most Americans have their head in the sand about evolution. I’ve met so many Christians that tell me ‘evolution is a scientific fact.’ Baloney! I am a scientist, there is nothing scientific about evolution. But you know something, Karl Marx said it, ‘I can use the teachings of Darwin to promote communism.’ Why? Because communism, or call it socialism if you think communism is too hard a word, necessitates for government to be your god and for government to be your god they need to destroy the concept of God. That’s why communism and evolution go hand and hand. Evolution is one of the strongest tools of Marxism because if they can convince you that you came from a monkey, it’s much easier to convince you that God does not exist.
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Due to limited timeframe, I'm having a bit of trouble believing that Marx thought it would be a good idea to adopt theory of evolution for marxism. I'll admit it's possible, but still.
I’ve met so many Christians that tell me evolution is a scientific fact.’ Baloney! I am a scientist, there is nothing scientific about evolution.
What's the science field you work in, what college did you graduated from, what do you have a PhD in and who approved it?
"This guy could be a blessing in disguise in that his craziness might torpedo any chance of Ted Cruz running for president."
I think Ted Cruz's own craziness has already torpedoed any chance of him actually winning, so it probably doesn't really matter.
I don't see how expanding the definition of family destroys the institution of family. Seems it creates more families and provides more stability for children and as well as the elderly. Creating a family unit regardless of biological relation or gender makes for well adjusted children who in turn will gladly care for the parents/grandparents when the time comes. So really, what's the problem?
I can't find anything on Rafael Cruz being a scientist. He owned a seismic data company once, but I don't even know if he was a seisomologist. Well, as the saying goes; Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. What he's said here certainly pushes his claim into 'extraordinary' territory.
" I can use the teachings of Darwin to promote communism.’ Why? Because communism, or call it socialism if you think communism is too hard a word, necessitates for government to be your god "
Under communism people who believed evolutionn was true were sent to siberia. Why do you hate America?
"Baloney! I am a scientist"
You put those in the wrong order.
"Evolution is one of the strongest tools of Marxism"
Stupidity is the strongest tool of brainwashers... stupidity and fear, the TWO strongest tools... stupidity, fear, and mental illness... amongst our weapons are such diverse elements as..
@Gawd & Filin De Blanc:
It is questionable whether Cruz is even elligible to run for President, on the one side he was born as an American citizen (his mother) on the was born in Calgary, Canada. And I don't know what I would prefer, that he be declared inelligible to smack the birthers across the face or that he runs against any Democrat and loses horrifically.
@Tim of Whipping:
According to dallasnews.com Rafael Cruz studied math (college degree only) and acording to the Harvard Law Review that was done at the University of Texas.
We're so far from communism it's like comparing apples to bulldozers.
Now we all know where Ted Cruz gets his right-wing fundamentalism... from his old man.
@UHM: Ted should be eligible having been born to an American woman unless she gave up her citizenship at some point. But the fact that the birthers aren't out in force (and probably won't be if he runs for president) claiming Cruz's ineligibility just shows the inherent racism in the birther movement. If Obama actually were born in Kenya his situation would be no different than Ted Cruz's, but he has the benefit of being born in Hawaii. But none of the birthers are yelling about Cruz's ineligibility.
"there is nothing scientific about evolution"
EVOLUTION
Standardspeak: The scientific theory about how lifeforms developed and diversified once life had originated.
Fundiespeak: The fairy tale that life, the universe and everything came into being from nothing by blind, random chance without it being the creation work of God, since THERE IS NO GOD!!!
"You know communism or socialism, whatever you want to call it, what is happening in this country"
Good.
"I’ve met so many Christians that tell me evolution is a scientific fact.'"
Good II.
Here in the UK...:
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Highgate Cemetery, and the Church of England's Westminster Abbey respectively. [/mega-paradox]
"Evolution is one of the strongest tools of Marxism because if they can convince you that you came from a monkey, it’s much easier to convince you that God does not exist."
I refer you to the above, RaFAIL. Welcome to Planet Reality. Stay a while. Stay FOREVERRRRRR! [/Pinkie Pie] >:D
@UHM: As I understand it Cruz is still eligible to become president. However, Obama is "closer" to eligibility -- American mother in an American state -- than Cruz, or for that matter McCain (born abroad, IIRC).
@fmitchell
Cruz was born in Canada, if he was born in the American Embassy or America NATO (like conditions of McCains birth oversees BUT on American base territory)base in Canada he could be considered born in American territory.
He cannot produce an American birth certificate because HE WASN"T BORN IN AMERICA or an established American base.
It shows how absolutely hypocritical and ignorant the tea-party side of Republicans are. It's cut and dried he can't be President. Lucky for a Y'all, now if you can get rid of twenty or more of the right-wing theocrats you might have sensible goverment again.
@Canadiest
I agree this makes the Tea Party hypocritical, but it isn't exactly cut and dried that Cruz can't be President. After all, Cruz was born to an American mother, and thus had U.S. citizenship at birth :
"A child born abroad to one U.S. citizen parent and one alien parent acquires U.S. citizenship at birth under Section 301(g) of the INA provided the U.S. citizen parent was physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for the time period required by the law applicable at the time of the child's birth."
Lies. Fucking lying religious fuck sticks.
You're not a scientist. You're definitely not an economist. You probably couldn't tell the difference between Communism, Socialism, or your own fucking ass.
Not get back to fucking work and leave that "thinkin' stuff" to adults.
The Cruz family is the most batshit insane political family in the US and that say a whole fucking lot!
And would you know? Ted Cruz has been anointed KING! Should we no call him "His Royal Highness, King Cruz"?
Ted Cruz’s Father Preaches That His Son Is An “Anointed King” Who Will Bring The “End Time Transfer Of Wealth” :
"n a sermon last year at an Irving, Texas, megachurch that helped elect Ted Cruz to the U.S. Senate, Cruz’ father Rafael Cruz indicated that his son was among the evangelical Christians who are anointed as “kings” to take control of all sectors of society, an agenda commonly referred to as the “Seven Mountains” mandate, and “bring the spoils of war to the priests”, thus helping to bring about a prophesied “great transfer of wealth”, from the “wicked” to righteous gentile believers.
Cruz spoke of “Kings who are anointed to go to war, win the war, and bring the spoils of war to the priests.” Discussion of the now-notorious speech by Rafael Cruz has missed the fact that Ted Cruz was subsequently blessed and anointed by prominent dominionist pastors, in effect as a “king” in the political/governmental sphere, at a special blessing ceremony at the Marriott Hotel in Des Moines, Iowa, at a July 19th-20th 2013 rally designed to draw pastors into politics."
This family is really fucking insane!
Part I
Communism and socialism are two different lef-wing ideologies, like conservatism and liberalism are two different right-wing ideologies.
Fundie left-wings are often just as against gay marriage as fundie right-wings. They refuse to accept reality for what it is, to deliberately keeping yourself from new knowledge and skepticism.
Allowing gay marriage is actually a FREEDOM FROM governmental control of people's lives, stupid. Sweden has been socialist for about 70 years. We still have "traditional families" and our divorce rate might even be lower than yours, as no-one here feels compelled to marry to have sex or to deal with accidents after sex. People who do marry seem to know what they are doing, and stay married for very long.
Yes, we could care less about homosexuals, as we actually do care about them. It's pretty far to the very lack of care when you simply can't care less . Your failure to grasp this concept is the surest sign that you don’t know what the heck you’re talking about!
There are no scientific "facts", stupid, they're called "theories"; everyone knows that! If you think there is nothing scientific about evolution, and don’t know the difference between fact and theory, then you're definitely no scientist.
Part II
You do know that Marx and Darwin were contemporaries, that Das Kapital is merely six years younger than On the Origin of Species, right?
Neither socialism, nor communism, nor evolution says ANYTHING about gods. “Religion is the opium of the people”, many leftists say; "give the public religion, and they won’t question your motives”. Socialists and communists want the public to open their eyes to the injustices of society, to work towards "from each according to her abilities, to each according to her needs".
WE DID NOT COME FROM MONKEYS, WE SHARE A COMMON ANCESTOR WITH MONKEYS. How many times are we going to have to repeat this VERY EASY fact, before you get it, you imbecile?!?
Most atheists that I know, and know of, became atheists after reading too much from the Bible, learning to much about it. Evolution has as much to do with it, as vacuum-cleaning did.
So why is same-sex marriage illegal in Cuba?
But you know something, Karl Marx said it, I can use the teachings of Darwin to promote communism.’
Did he? Where? And while we're on the subject, ever heard of a guy called Lysenko?
for government to be your god they need to destroy the concept of God.
If there is no concept of god, how can government be a god? You haven't thought this all the way through, Rafael.
@ Hasan Prishtina I believe he is referring to when Karl Marx had said: "Darwin's book is very important and serves me as a basis in natural science for the class struggle in history. One has to put up with the crude English method of development, of course. Despite all deficiencies not only is the death-blow dealt here for the first time to 'teleology' in the natural sciences, but their rational meaning is empirically explained. " Even then, Marxism and evolution are polar opposites if you want to classify them politically. Hell, you could argue that Capitalism is more lenient towards evolution than communism is.
"Karl Marx said it, I can use the teachings of Darwin to promote communism.’"
Karl Marx never said that sentence in the history of ever.
Yeah, call me when businesses have been expropriated and factories have been taken over by the workers. Take your time.
Ps: and you wouldn't like to be a gay man in Cuba, even less to be one in 1960s-1970s Cuba.
@Junkers "hornesse" 465
Thanks. And in that citation from Marx is the killer quote: "One has to put up with the crude English method of development, of course." What he means by that is empiricism. Also, given Marx's view of history, his complaint about teleology seems rather amusing. And here are a couple of the reasons that Lysenko and fundamentalism in general tend to suit Marxism rather better than Darwin.
@anothga: Marx used Darwin's positions on evolution as a demonstration on how Dialectic Materialism works ("Darwin was a Dialectic Materialist but he didn't realize it"), but other than that, there's no relation between that and communism.
@Swede : And scientists analyzed Darwin's copy of Das Kapital. The pages were stuck together a lot, meaning he never opened his copy to begin with, let alone read it.
Regarding the OP: Oh, yeah. Communism is spreading like wildfire over the US. Those fucktons of guerrilla groups trying to take down the government are sure to put in a dictatorship any day now. [/smartass]
"Because communism, or call it socialism if you think communism is too hard a word, necessitates for government to be your god "
That is simply not true. First of all the US is very far from socialism. I myself have libertarian and democratic socialist leanings and America is not moving in the direction of socialism at all.
As for the quote above, the ultimate goal of Marxism is actually the abolition of the state. You may want to learn about something if your going to criticize it.
"Baloney! I am a scientist, there is nothing scientific about evolution."
Oh yeah? What field are you in? Where did you get your PhD?
" if they can convince you that you came from a monkey,"
<sarcasm>Yeah your a scientist, okay.</sarcasm>
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