There was no "Greek and Roman science." Neither the Greeks nor the Romans ever developed the notion of "natural laws" which could account for phenomena in nature. There was Greek and Roman engineering and technology, but never science.
[Later in the same post: never heard of Pythagoras?]
... heliocentrism was not a scientific model devised by the Greeks.
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OMFG what a dumbass.
You know, the Greeks were well on their way to figuring out evolution, and you can bet that Aristotle would have figured out a way to make it compatible with the Greeks' polytheistic beliefs. Amazing how long we've been going backwards...
...Thus proving that s + i + a = BS, where
s = stupidity,
i = ignorance,
a = arrogance,
and
BS = Belief that the Speaker has somehow won an argument with utter nonsense, simply because he doesn't have a frickin' clue about anything.
~David D.G.
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<<< ...Thus proving that s + i + a = BS, where
s = stupidity,
i = ignorance,
a = arrogance,
and
BS = Belief that the Speaker has somehow won an argument with utter nonsense, simply because he doesn't have a frickin' clue about anything. >>>
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i = ignorance AND the square root of -1.
This makes the equation even more profound. Bet those ignorant Greeks and Romans never would've figured something like that out.
Stupid. Although he's more or less right about the Romans, not a civilization that put a premium on science. But while the Greeks may not have approached science in the better, modern way they were still amongst the first to try and find natural explanations for natural phenomenon. The Greeks were the ones who figured out that the world was round.
This post is all the more arresting for the fact that the guy is *not* a moron, nor is he ignorant.
If it had been (almost) anyone else making those remarks, I would not have bothered to submit it here - but I would have taken the trouble to correct them.
"There was no "Greek and Roman science." Neither the Greeks nor the Romans ever developed the notion of "natural laws" which could account for phenomena in nature. There was Greek and Roman engineering and technology, but never science."
How do you know!? Were you there!?
(sorry, I couldn't resist)
Mr. Turquoise
The Library was actually thrice burnt. First, on accident by Julius Ceaser in 47 BCE, when fire spread from ships he was burning in the port. Secondly, in 391 CE, by fanatical christian rioters. And finally, in 641 CE, by a caliph under siege in city, attempting to use fire created by burning the works there to heat water for the cities public baths. In this act alone, the Christians are responsible for setting back scientific progress 200 years. And this doesn't take into account the Dark Ages. As someone pointed out, the greeks had figured out that the earth was round, now, why is it then, that in the time of Columbus, 2000 years later, people thought it was flat? I'll give you a hint: The Bible. I mean, organized religion sucks for many reasons, but, more than war, more than brainwashing the populous, I hate the concept of organized religion, because collectively it has set us back a millenia. I blame the Christians exclusivly for us not having flying cars and interstellar space travel. We would be so much better off without religion.
To quote the 13th apostle: "I think it's better to have ideas. You can change an idea. Changing a belief is trickier."
Well, you know, you can have engineering and technology withouth science, right?
It's not like science is needed to develop computers like the one you are looking at now. Technology is in the bible, not coming from science.
*facepalm* Oh Really?
Ever heard that philosophy is the science of all sciences?
What about Pythagoras, Archimedes and Thales(just to name a few)?
If you don't know, don't make things up and pretend them to be real.
Science, as a method, was being used by early hominids who sat around figuring out through trial, observation, and error, the best ways to chip spearheads and affix them to sticks. The Greeks and Romans were latecomers.
The Greeks were quite advanced in the fields of science, engineering, architecture, medicines and mathematics.
That all came to a grinding halt when the enforced ignorance of christianity came into being.
If there were no christianity, we would have colonised the solar system and be speaking greek 300 years ago.
The Greeks figured out the atom.
Dark Age Europeans believed in the four elements.
When did we have a strong church?
Greek, Egyptian, Chinese and Babylonian science all preceed the Bibles first writtings.
Heliocentracy was understood by them all.
Hell, the druids built solar calanders over 10,000 years ago
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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