Brother has gay friends..should I disown him?
I'm always uncomfortable around him now. I think people are too permissive these days and believe that loving someone is the answer when it never helps and is a lukewarm approach. In the old days people would disown family that brought shame to them and their house.
I feel this would be the correct coarse of action...tell me I'm wrong.
I'm so tired of hearing about the gay thing and to see it in my own life..makes me sick..literally. I love my brother...but I hate this world. I feel just going with the flow and ignoring it would be like surrendering and that to me is unacceptable.
But the alternative is a I never see him again...and that is also unacceptable.
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Well at least you have the rapture to look forward to. It's going to happen any day now right???
i think that if you hang out with your brother and his friends and constantly talk about the rapture they will leave you and never want to see you again.
I have to ask ... is it unacceptable to your brother?
Anyway, if you're going to be shunned for having gay friends, why you shouldn't you be shunned for having a brother who has gay friends, hey?
No, you shouldn't, but maybe he should disown you for being so judgmental.
He's the exact same person he has ever been, stupid. The only thing that has changed is your perception of him, and that's your problem.
Love is a lukewarm approach? So you're not Christian then? Jesus said that the greatest one is Love.
You are coarse, all right; contemplating disowning your own brother for who he loves/likes.
I almost never hear about "the gay thing", homosexuality is fairly well accepted in my culture, so very few talk about it.
This world is the one your God supposedly created, with everything in it. If you have a problem with any of it, take it up with The Man, why don't you?
Surrendering, to reality? Teh Horror!!!
You can really see the "Hate the sin, love the sinner" in this act of kindness.
What is it with fundies and the gay?
How much you wanna bet that his brother is feeling the exact same way about him? We have a cousin who's homophobic, and while he sits around wallowing in his self-righteousness, hardly anyone else in the family will have anything to do with him. Shame too, he used to be a really sweet guy and lots of fun to be around. And they say atheists are ruining families? This is what religion does to people, folks.
"I'm so tired of hearing about the gay thing and to see it in my own life..makes me sick..literally. I love my brother...but I hate this world."
Answers to your difficult problems.
1) Wear ear plugs and a blindfold. Also, stop writing about the gay thing.
2) Always have a bucket at hand where ever you go.
3) Do not love your brother. I know you can do it.
4) Be patient. Soon...any minute now. Or initiate a global nuclear war.
With a little forethought, as you can see, all these problems will go away.
Brother has gay friends..should I disown him?
The mere fact you're asking if you should disown your own brother for daring having gay friends speaks volumes about your religious endoctrinment.
But the alternative is a I never see him again...and that is also unacceptable.
You're right, it is the manner the little fragment of humanity you still have in your mind says to you it would be putting your cult above your brotherly bonds.
EDIT: Fixed tag.
"I think people are too permissive these days and believe that loving someone is the answer when it never helps and is a lukewarm approach."
It is a hell of a lot better than hating them and disowning them. If you feel sick or uncomfortable around your brother, it is not on him, it is your hatred bringing you down.
According to mythology, Cain did ask God, "Am I my brother's keeper?"
I assume Christians know the answer to the question.
SwordofGeddo, unless you are cutting off your brother in your will, you are not disowning him. If you wish not to associate with him any more, that's shunning him. If having gay friends is reason enough to shun, then you might want to check out all your other relations, your friends, your co-workers etc.
So your situation is reminiscent of that in your precious Bible; "The Prodigal Son".
...only in reverse .
'There are always other options, as Capt. Jean-Luc Picard would say: You put away your unjustifiable prejudices, and accept him for who he is, and not what he is.
The only barrier is your attitude. The Borg eventually adapt .
Make it so. [/'Slash Fiction']
It's time once again to whip out Mr . Juju's Giant, Hard, um...Veiny (?)"Are You an Asshole" tester. For those at home, here are the rules: any time someone uses the words "gay" "homosexual" or any other version of the same, replace the word with "black" If the phrase seems nonsensical, you might be ignorant, but probably not too far beyond help. If the phrase, on the other hand, makes you sound like a racist asshole, than, congratulations, you are an asshole!
"Brother has black friends...should I disown him"
Oh boy! SwordofGeddo: YOU! ARE! AN! ASSHOLE!!! But don't feel too bad, you still get to bring home the years supply of Rice-a-roni: The San Fransisco Treat, and the home game!
See you all next week for another exciting round of "Are you an asshole!" Marv, play us out!
(Been a while)
If I knew Geddo, I'd try to encourage him to accept his brother. I wouldn't call him ignorant, but if he points to the bible, I'd try to tell him what it says about shrimp in the same passage.
The point is, as Dr. King once said "You cannot drive out darkness with more darkness. Only light can drive out darkness."
This could be a chance to change Geddo for the better.
He's your brother. Of course never seeing him again is unacceptable.
This might be the perfect opportunity to question what your parents have told you about gay people, and maybe you'll learn that who you fall in love with or choose to have sex with does not define you as a person.
I don't get much of an angry vibe from this, just confusion. Challenge the doctrines you've been brought up with, 'cause you ought to be comfortable with your feelings.
Your brother will appreciate you trying for him.
You forgot that those people who disowned and so ended their lives alone and miserable. Loving somebody means unconditionally, even when they make things that you don´t agree with. He is not forcing you to be gay, he´s just accepting that people he does appreciate and love may be or do things he doesn´t agree with but they don´t stop being human beings.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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