[This is an actual Haredi Jewish poster put up in Monsey, New York about the guidelines for "modest clothing."]
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If you have to think so goddamned hard about conforming to a standard then it's not you at all. Especially not if said standard is a stock excuse and moral escape clause for how other people treat you if they think they can get away with it.
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I know I've brought this up before but it still bugs me. In the story of Adam and Eve and the garden of Eden they walked around naked. It was after eating the apple they thought their nakedness was sinful and God asked why they were covering their fun bits. Why the 180? I know why I wear clothes and it's got nothing to do with sin but if you look at the explanation God was madder that they got dressed. They thought it was a sin. God didn't. What gives? Who was right?
Erm...
1. Is it comfortable, does it look nice, will it wash well? Those are questions I ask myself.
I'm sure it's more impressive to Hebrew speakers, but the term "halacha" sounds like a rejected Subway sauce.
Also, improper use of ellipses, five yard penalty.
The sponsors of the poster appear to be Bnos Melachim (Daughters of Kings) which appears to be a group of busybodies obsessed with tznius (modesty). I've a couple of points to note here: firstly, Orthodox dress, even back in der heym (Poland, Lithuania, Belarus, Ukraine, Romania etc.), has not always been this strict. Much like Christian and Muslim fundamentalism, Charedis are an essentially modern movement directed against modernism. Secondly, like the Christian fundamentalist "modest dresses" and the Muslim fundamentalist ferece , this is a way of saying to women "we own you and control you; step outside the guidelines and your family and community will shun you." Bnos Melachim's poster is there to add the words "...and don't you forget it."
Buy a gimp suit. Completely covered, no individuality. Although the "not tempting part" may be perfectible...
OK, so if she's not wearing a dowdy, drab, sweat-bag, she's a sinner. Got it.
So I guess they would disapprove of my gray v neck t shirt & my Arsenal hoodie.
I'm going to go out & buy a pair of studded motorcycle boots to wear with my lowest tank top, just to spite these prudes.
I presume that halacha means the fear of being a cuckold and of one's straggly beard being mercilessly derided, also the fear that one's sandals' decorative goat shit has faded to dull obscurity, plus the nagging fear that virgins will find you grossly unattractive.
Oddly enough, the joyous acceptance that you're destined to spout deranged nonsense and design risible posters is a major indicator of halacha infestation.
If you think you might have a touch of the old halachas, don't hesitate to make an immediate appointment with reality or consult a mirror.
Is the outfit trendy, comfortable, or pretty? Then fuck you! You can't have it! Does it more resemble something a farmer would use to carry equipment and store grains in? Then that is the outfit for you!
Reminds me of a visit to Krakow with my mum a couple years ago. We decided to visit the cemetery in the Jewish Quarter. We thought we'd have to get a skullcap for myself in order to be let in. It turns out the big problem was that my mum's skirt was too short.
Long story short, we didn't visit the Jewish cemetery after all.
The style too trendy?
This is very revealing of the twisted way they think God works.
A piece of clothing that is sinful and against God's will in 2014 will be just fine in 2020, once it's out of date and no longer "trendy". In 2020 God will look at the same piece of clothing with approval and smile on the person wearing it instead of "turning his face away".
God is obviously not a dedicated follower of fashion.
OMFG! KNEES!
Now I have to set my hair on fire and run around. Just look what you did with those knees! You're hurting my eyes with that! Can't you find something drab from 80 years ago? Oy!
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It was all the rage in the 1900s, after all.
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"Halacha" is the Jewish religious law.
Breakerslion wrote:...Can't you find something drab from 80 years ago?
It's worse than that, at least in 1934 Cole Porter could write...
In olden days a glimpse of stocking
Incidentally, 'But now God knows...' was later replaced by 'But Heaven knows...' in a fit of Bowdlerism.
I just noticed the logo to the left of #6. I tentatively read the Hebrew in the logo as "Bnôt Melachim" which would mean "Daughters of the Kings", making it a women's group.
Isn't the very existence of a Haredi women's group a contradiction in itself?
I couldn't find anything on the group on the web.
So does Yahweh care if guys where trendy clothes, or is it only women's fashion he's so anal about? As a guy, should I be wearing my suit and hat at all times with a long beard to match my woman wearing her Yahweh-approved halacha burqa?
The ellipses in this are hilarious BTW.
I'm expanding the term "Frummer" to not just mean "Jewish Fundie" but "Fundie". The term "fundamentalist", means "One who sticks to the fundamentals of their faith". Since these types tend to ignore much of the fundamentals of their faith, they are not worthy of the term "fundamentalist".
"Zealot" refers to a member of a Jewish revolutionary movement back in Jesus' day.
"Frummer", on the other hand, is Yiddish for "Over-zealous religious nut who's waaaaaay too concerned with the letter of the law and overly-pious that they make a royal pain of themselves".
Haredis, Wahabis & Puritans are all Frummers!
Waddaya think, sirs?
That poster would apply to any woman of Jewish, christian or muslim faiths.
what was the point again ?
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I'm going to buck the tend here and say "meh." To me, this post is just like FSTDT: if you don't like it, don't pay attention to it.
If the sponsor was demanding laws to enforce the advertised dress code, or encouraging mobs to enforce them, THAT would be different.
A boob slip could get you ostracized from society.
Jesus fuckin Christ, the prophet even, well,,,He wasn't into girls literally,,,I do suspect, from what I've read he's not a fan of the ladies, but he never sid:
"The ladies hath and forto been slutting it up a bit too much and the boys art losing it so stop slutting it up ladies, so sayeth God and his virgin son and the girls mothers"
You really can't stop some girls parading it, God bless them.
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