Quote# 95676

Have you been processed through the NWO / Illuminates secret ceremony performed through altered states of consciousness / transcendental meditation and been forced through methods of witchcraft to accept the worship of one of the NWO's many "Gods" / Demons yet?

How many people have experienced the Illuminates witchcraft / demonology?
Have you been approached by members of a secret society who worship Satan and or one of the many other demons of the New World Order? Did this Satanic Mafia try to seduce and or force you to worship their Lord lucifer and or one of their many other demons? Did they use witchcraft to try and force you to worship the Devil along with subversive acts of terrorism? Did this satanic cult use magic to summon the dead to attack you while you slept?

The Illuminati has placed occult material into society in the form of games and or practices to spiritually enslave society. These practices are strictly forbidden by God, documented in the Bible, and cause spiritual bondage / captivity Revelation 13,10. Many people are unaware of this but are in for an evil surprise. Some of the occult practices include Ouija boards, tarot cards, mirror gazing, even the eight ball with the pyramid in the center, role playing games such as dungeons and dragons and magic art which is the precursor to transcendental mediation which is the method for the secret ceremony used to enslave society. The list is endless and these are but a few.

Stung, Y! answers 18 Comments [7/25/2013 3:34:16 AM]
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Quote# 121378


Obelisks are erect phallic (penis) symbols related to the Egyptian Sun god, Ra. The four sides of the Washington Monument are aligned with the cardinal directions (i.e., east, west, north, and south). At the ground level each side of the monument measures 55.5 feet in width, which is equal to 666 inches each side. The height of the obelisk is 555.5 feet, which is equal to 6,666 inches. THIS IS THE EXACT RATIO OF KING NEBUCHADNEZZAR'S GOLDEN IMAGE! (which was 90 x 9 feet, a 10-to-1 ratio). The new grand PHALLUS (obelisk) symbol representing the sinister power of the global Illuminati elite is the ONE WORLD TRADE CENTER, replacing the old World Trade Center in New York. The new architectural wonder is exactly 1,776 feet tall, featuring The Great Pyramid in it's design. This evidences that the satanic plot for World Government has existed for millenniums and is perpetrating from generation-to-generation by occult organizations.

Truly, I hope I'm not the only Christian who has a problem with a giant erect male penis being the symbol of our nation! That is so perverted! Philippians 2:15, “That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world.” The erect male phallus is an ancient occult symbol of satanic power and strength. Is this the Luciferian ruling elite's way of mocking us as they debase, humiliate, rape and dehumanize us? It's no coincidence that the Washington Monument was erected 6,666 inches tall. It's 66.6 inches wide! It has Satan's markings all over it! Luciferians have hi-jacked our nation, and they are in the process of setting up a police state that will rival World War II fascist Germany under Adolf Hitler. Just wait until American's guns are confiscated. It will happen! 1936 Spain (“The people found themselves helpless... forced to register & surrender arms!”).

The Illuminati launched their 1775 plot for World Government the next year in 1,776 during the Revolutionary War. The rebels no sooner broke away from England, establishing their own 13 colonies here in America, but then tried to also overthrow Canada in The War of 1812. The Canadians weren't so easy to defeat, and the Illuminati were instead defeated and pushed back into the U.S. by Canada! The United States was founded by Freemasons, with the primary intent of one day achieving World Government (aka, a New World Order). U.S. President George Washington was a high-level Freemason, as were 8 of the 56 signers of The Declaration Of Independence.

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Savior 10 Comments [8/31/2016 4:26:14 PM]
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Quote# 41708

The Native American or Rufan Holocaust is the largest holocaust in the history of Terranity.

I was the first person to say that Christians murdered over three hundred million (365,842,518) Rufans in North America. I first said that Christians murdered over three hundred million Native Americans while I was attending Fremont Middle School in Fremont, Missouri, USA, in 1971.

The Christians in Canada savagely murdered at least 25,334,000 Rufan men, women, and children. The Christians in the United States savagely murdered at least 226,542,518 Rufan men, women, and children. The Christians in Mexico and Central America savagely murdered at least 88,087,000 Rufan men, women, and children. The Christians in the Caribbean Islands savagely murdered at least 16,879,000 Rufan men, women, and children. The Christians in South America savagely murdered at least 250,097,792 Rufan men, women, and children. The Christians murdered over six hundred six million (606,940,310) Rufan men, women, and children in Canada, the United States, Mexico, Central America, the Caribbean Islands, and South America.

There are five primary species of Terranity, the Weiss or Albus specie, the Schwarz or Nigrus specie, the Gelb or Gilvus specie, the Rot or Rufus specie, and the Braun or Humus specie, because the word specie refers to the outward appearance. The people of the Albus specie are called Albans, the people of the Nigrus specie are called Nigrans, the people of the Gilvus specie are called Gilvans, the people of the Rufus specie are called Rufans, and the people of the Humus specie are called Humans. In the Latin language, the word Albus means white, the word Nigrus means black, the word Gilvus means yellow, the word Rufus means red, and the word Humus means brown.

In their theistic crusade to establish their dominion over all the Earth, as the Jewish bible commands them to do, the Christians exterminated at least 1,244,699,009 (1.24 billion) Rufans in the ongoing Native American Holocaust, slaughtered at least 785,398,163 (785.4 million) Albans in the ongoing Native European Holocaust, murdered at least 109,955,743 (110 million) Nigrans in the ongoing Native African Holocaust, and massacred at least 31,415,927 (31.4 million) Gilvans in the ongoing Native Asian Holocaust. The Humans and their converts (Jews, Christians, and Moslems) are ruthless and relentless reprobates who will not stop until they have conquered, converted, enslaved, and mongrelized or killed us all. Therefore, in order to continue to live, we must build spaceships, leave planet Earth, and establish a new home and a new civilization on another planet or moon.

mowerymd, Soundclick 25 Comments [6/27/2008 6:43:23 AM]
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Quote# 47798

This post is inspired by the other thread about Aliens in the Solar System, and is designed for discussion as a possibility not as a serious theory so please do accept only as a discussion topic.

Recently evidence has emerged that there were far more Homo species co-existing on Earth that anyone had ever thought existed at all. Further we have shown that Anatommically Modern Humans (You and I) have been about for somewhere between 220,000 and 280,000 years. Also Home Florensiensis (The Hobbit) is showing that perhaps our ideas of Intelligence and Brain size are not as simple as we once thought.

My thoughts are this, we have many myths on Earth that are similar, despite being seperated by millenia and thousands of miles, many stories of Gods have images of similar appearence, now all this could simply be caused by influence and coincidence (Which I honestly believe it to be), however what if around 50,000 years ago a group stated on the Road we did about 5,000 years ago, then what if they developed technology analogous to us today, then the Ice Age began, they could do nothing about it and some actually left the planet and moved into space, perhaps beyond the Solar System. Maybe some of the Unique people that have existed in History are somehow connected to this group, perhaps the Gods of Pre-History were members of this group who found their way back here?

Perhaps then Aliens could be here, but we would not know as they look exactly like us, because We are the Aliens??

OK so this is likely to be a load of old bollox, but it is not impossible in some context either.

Anyone got any thoughts on this?

Jim Franklin, SETI @ home board 6 Comments [9/26/2008 10:56:24 AM]
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Quote# 109455

The logo Hillary Clinton chose for her 2016 Presidential Campaign is wrong on several levels. Here is what the logo looks like and here is why I think it’s not ok.


This is the worst part about her logo. It looks like a plane crashing into the twin towers and she knows it. You see, Hillary thought about all this long before releasing the worst and most controversial logo in presidential history.

You may find yourself wondering, how could she make something reminds so many people of the tragic terrorist attack on 9/11?

Because Hillary Clinton is heartless and I don’t say that lightly. Her life reveals that to be true. She’s been married and stayed married to a man who has been consistently unfaithful to her. This would break any self respecting woman’s heart, but Hillary has turned that part of herself off.

She was just blessed with her first grandchild and yet she’s going to spend her time running for President. Another heartless move.

And now she has heartlessly decided to remind America of the tragic events that took place on 9/11 for her own political gain…. Heartless.

To Hillary Clinton, I have to say 9/11 is off limits. She’s decided to incorporate a terrorist attack into her logo. That is unacceptable.

So before anyone even thinks about voting for her, let’s all remember the extent of her decision making skills. Anyone who would use 9/11 to advance their political career does not deserve to be anywhere near the white house.

It’s time for Hillary to retire from politics.

Ladies (and gentlemen) let’s see her logo for what it really is – a desperate attempt to create political buzz for her campaign at the expense of the victims of 9/11.

Let us end the conversation about the bad logo and make sure she loses this desperate attempt to make America notice her.

Rachel Sacher, Thoughtful Women 20 Comments [6/9/2015 3:45:20 AM]
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Quote# 105516

The Bering Strait theory would have us believe that all of North America was uninhabited by human beings of any kind until the supposed 'ice age'.'

The theory contends that all the ancestors of American Indians originated in Siberia. Factual history of the ancient people of Siberia in those times indicates that these people had plenty to eat, were very settled into their communities, and the land they lived on. The Bering Strait theory wants us to believe that countless thousands of people from these well established communities in Siberia, despite the fact that they had everything they needed, just left it all behind to head north into a frozen tundra to 'chase and hunt game' (which, by the way, also decided for some crazy reason to leave their rich marshlands and head for the ice).

It is certainly possible that a handful of ancient Siberian people over the course of thousands of years may have found their way into the northern parts of North America. The Inuit cultures of Alaska may well carry an ancient connection with these people in their bloodlines. But this does not in any way negate the foolishness of the notion that North America was entirely devoid of humanity, and then suddenly became populated entirely by Siberians wandering across a so-called frozen ice bridge.

John Two-Hawks, Native Circle 11 Comments [12/28/2014 5:29:31 AM]
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Quote# 63099

[TV is going digital, so of course, Rapture Ready is panicking]

big brother will be watching you ....

and will suddenly find out who watches FOX news for the truth

Architectlink, RR 47 Comments [6/8/2009 8:19:36 AM]
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Quote# 125220

[Notes from submitter: a CME is a coronal mass ejection and the comments on the article are worth looking at too.]

Is NASA's SOHO satellite capturing images of UFOs near the sun?

Online UFO hunters have once again criticized NASA over the agency's alleged silence in the face of what UFO hunters claim to be glaring evidence of a constant and heavy traffic of massive alien UFOs — motherships, cruiseships, battleships and expeditionary fleets — passing through our inner solar system close to the Sun.

UFO hunters accuse NASA of refusing to talk about frequent sightings in Solar and Heliospheric Observatory (SOHO) satellite images of the Sun uploaded to the agency's Helioviewer website, of massive objects with intricate, symmetric structures, and aerodynamic features, suggesting artificial or intelligently designed interstellar spacecraft.

The SOHO satellite — a joint project between NASA and the European Space Agency — (ESA) is stationed in space in halo orbit around the Sun-Earth L1 gravitational balance point from where it sends to NASA and ESA scientists on Earth near-real-time data about solar activity needed to predict space weather.

NASA has received criticism once again from UFO blogger Scott Waring, following the latest UFO sighting on NASA's Helioviewer by the avid YouTube UFO hunter Streetcap1. Streetcap1 claims to have spotted the same massive UFO in two SOHO images of the Sun snapped on March 14, 2016.

Same Object - So Not a CME NASA! [Link to YouTube]


"NASA seems to ignore all reported UFOs, even though I always tweet to them the posts I make about them all," Waring complains. "As of yet, NASA has never answered me. They ignore UFO researchers because they know they are losing and the day will come when the truth comes out."


"These are not CME's, these are not pixel malfunctions. They are spacecraft travelling past our ESA/NASA SOHO satellite camera on a regular basis at point L1," Streetcap1 argued. "Maybe the powers that be will never admit it, but surely common sense tells you that this and other constructed shapes we upload to our YouTube channels prove we are not alone."


UFO Sightings Daily's Scott Waring enthused, "Look at the detail... It is just mind blowing! Its angles have agreement in dimensions, due proportion, arrangement which all point to this being 100% made by intelligent beings."


"If you look carefully, you will see there is a geometric shape to it," Waring wrote. "This shape is impossible for any comet, meteor or natural phenomenon other than crystals. This object looks about the size of the moon, maybe a little bigger. This explains why the Helioviewer is down for... cough, cough... maintenance."

According to Waring, when he "finally got the Helioviewer to work... the UFO has been blurred so much that its outline can no longer be seen."


Streetcap1, Scott Waring, and others, Signs Of The Times 3 Comments [3/9/2017 1:44:34 PM]
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Quote# 108943

Re: BREAKING: John Nash - immortalised in Beautiful Mind Movie Dies in Crash

Schizophrenics = illuminati, just without the respect. His only sin was talking about what he experienced instead of covering it up like many people do.

You know it was those scientologists, not the jews. Nash was probably on psych meds, and now they'll blame the psych meds for his problems.

Go forward 20 years they'll find out the time loop of causality. Time travelers went back in time to try to beam their images into his brain and his hallucinations were actually a quantum holographic chip. Maybe it was a descendant of a nemesis in college.

I find it disturbing that so many normal/average people cannot refrain from using his diagnosis to relate to his ability to live. He was a mathematics person, not a schizophrenic, in daily life; he was a schizophrenic at the hospital. Try to remember that.

Oh and his wife was in the accident too, but the psych-wall prevails in the news.

Anonymous Coward, Godlike Productions 15 Comments [5/27/2015 3:00:28 AM]
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Quote# 108723

Not one, not two, but three UFO “ships” — and not just regular UFO ships but “massive” UFO ships — were captured in NASA images from the Solar and Heliospheric Observatory this week, at least according to sharp-eyed researchers who spend large amounts of time searching for anomalies in NASA photos and other sources of celestial imagery.

The UFO ships, according to the researchers, were spotted as they entered orbit around the sun — the sun seeming to be a popular destination for alien visitors over the past several months. In March, the same highly active researchers found what they said was a huge object traveling an incredible speed around the sun. Read the Inquisitr account of that sighting at this link.

In April, another seemingly huge object was also spotted plunging toward the sun. This time, the shape of the object bore a strange resemblance to an ancient Egyptian hieroglyph, perhaps providing evidence of ancient UFO visitors, according to the UFO researchers. The Inquisitr account of that sighting is available at this link.

The latest triple sighting was uncovered by prolific YouTube UFO researcher Streetcap1, who posted the above video, taken from the NASA SOHO site, which allows users to create videos of any solar image in the vast archive.

If you somehow miss the UFO sightings in the video, here is one image, as isolated by Scott C. Waring of the prominent UFO Sightings Daily blog.

And here is a second object. Note the zoomed-in look at the UFO in the upper right corner of each image.

“Look at the right angles on the ship that looks like a giant crystal tower in space. Its beautiful. You can even make out the lines along its edges. I count 17 right angles on it!” wrote an excited Waring on his blog. “Remember this is a photo taken by a SOHO satellite whose soul purpose is to photograph our sun. These images are very clear and made with best tech NASA has to offer. The second ship looks equal in size, but its center is thinner and less obvious.”

So why are the UFOs converging on Earth’s sun all within days of each other? Waring offers his theories.

“I see two possibilities… 1. Aliens are meeting at or in our sun to convene a United Worlds kind of meeting. 2. Aliens are sending massive ships to suck our suns energy. If we are sharing our sun… its not going to last the 5 billion years scientist predicted it at, but may drop below a billion years before its used up.”

The latter possibility is alarming, at least if we’re planning on being around 5 billion years from now. But if the UFO researchers are to be believed, NASA may want to keep a closer eye on whatever’s going on around the sun these days.

Scott Waring & other UFO researchers, Inquisitr 9 Comments [5/20/2015 2:55:29 AM]
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Quote# 122563

Yes TV is SOLE reason why people voted Hillary. TV is owned by globalists and Hillary is a puppet for the globalists. TV doesn't say she's a KKK racist, a misogynist, fraudster, murderer and satanic childmolester.

louise.deprez, Yahoo! Answers 10 Comments [11/18/2016 3:53:44 AM]
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Quote# 94467

[Alice Walker, author of The Color Purple, shows her love of David Icke]

Earlier I wrote that David Icke reminded me of Malcolm X. I was thinking especially of Malcolm’s fearlessness. A fearlessness that made him seem cold, actually, though we know he wasn’t really. All that love of us that kept driving him to improve our lot; often into quite the wrong direction, but I need not go into that. What I was remembering was how he called our oppressors “blue eyed devils.” Now who could that have been? Well, we see them here in David Icke’s book as the descendants of the reptilian race that landed on our sweet planet the moment they could get a glimpse of it through the mist that used to cover it (before there was a moon)


They wanted gold and they wanted slaves to mine it for them. Now gosh, who does this remind us of? I only am asking. You do the work. Apparently their own planet needed this metal to continue its, apparently, long life. Credo Mutwa, Zulu shaman – and I am on my knees here in gratitude that he held on long enough to tell us about this – calls them the Chitauri, which has become my favorite word of all time (well, of this time that I’m learning all this): my partner and I go around saying Oh, Chitauri, whenever we get a glimpse of one or two of the Chitauri offspring, aka Illuminati bloodline families and their puppets, on the telly.


The Reptilian space beings whose hybrid (part human, part reptile) descendants make our lives hell in Paradise were blue eyed devils to Malcolm X, the devil himself to my Christian parents, who never talked about eye color, which I think was not only prudent but wise, although they seemed clear enough about his sex, and as demons in many other religions, including the non-religion, Buddhism, where the advice is often to invite them in until they go away. But maybe these were other kinds of demons. Not the ones controlling not just you, but everything.

Alice Walker, Alice Walker's Garden 22 Comments [5/24/2013 3:23:05 AM]
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Quote# 56506

One of my obsessions has been researching the holocaust, it didn't actually happen. I have never found any gas chambers. You can visit a couple as a tourist, the one at Auschwitz was built by the Russians after the war. And the one at Dachau in Germany was built by the Americans, again after the war.

Oh and by the way, I'm jewish.

faberman, WrongPlanet 23 Comments [1/17/2009 5:44:23 AM]
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Quote# 30227

Chemtrails, you know, the airplanes that fly over in a criss-cross pattern in the sky - you know, makes the big checker board trails in the sky - when they are releasing chemicals that are dispersing through the atmosphere and covering large cities. Many people have gotten extremely seriously worried about this, and rightfully so. [.....] There's a lot of theories about what is going on - there is a whole lot of secrecy too about what is going on - nobody seems to know for sure. It appears there are some people who seriously would like to reduce the population of the planet to about a half billion. [.....] And there are an awful lot of folks who think, and I happen to be one of those that agrees, that this chemtrail thing is one of the things that sets up the population for plagues, or whatever, coming soon.

Kent Hovind, kent-hovind.com 11 Comments [10/20/2007 5:32:23 AM]
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Quote# 102790

LaViolette's model has passed a number of cosmological tests, but does not lend itself to standard physics tests. Other test methods are needed. So cosmologists must fall in line or be ridiculed. Look at the ridicule I have suffered here.

LaViolette used to the model to predict the Pioneer anomaly, for example. And he used terms which are considered taboo, such as etheric. So the ridicule keeps science from looking at it, similar in effect to the UFO propaganda propagated by our government to help keep science blinded by relativist nonsense.

The electro-gravitic research started by Brown, etc. in the 50's and by the aerospace industry of the time has gone black since then. And science has since bowed to the black hole, big bang nonsense. Instead, we have wasted billions on the NASA PR stunts. This has kept the electro-gravitic physics hidden from dangerous rouge nations, and confined largely to Area 51, etc. So the strategy has been effective, with no rogue nation threat.

Tuxford, PHYS.org 6 Comments [8/18/2014 5:53:26 PM]
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Quote# 118839

Do you want to understand what 911 really means? Why that date was chosen to sacrifice almost 3000 people?

We are shown the number 911 everywhere. Our "emergency" call number, in movies, on the web.

First you must understand a little about Chaldean or Jewish numerology. The number 1 means god, creator or lord. In truth though, we are referring to the False God or Creator, the Demiurge. They also consider the number 11 to equal 1 also. 11 is a master number and is not added together, but instead, 11 -> 1, not 2.

The number 9 in numerology means completion, death, finish, rebirth. It is the end of the cycle of life, the finish.

So, what did this sacrifice to the god called the Creator or Demiurge mean? It really means that 9 is finally moving to 11 or 1. So, it is the transition or completion.

It was a sacrifice to their god of Creation, the Demiurge that many know as their god. It is about the beginning of the end of a cycle of existence.

It was a sacrifice to their god to celebrate the ending of this aeon of time.

9 moving to 11 or 1.

Anonymous Coward, Godlike Productions 7 Comments [5/9/2016 3:50:51 PM]
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Quote# 24858

And finally... the worst truth of all. There is a God. He has existed forever. However, there is no heaven, and there is no hell. When we die, our souls are transported to an alien military base on Jupitor, and we are brainwashed for about 9 years. Then, we are dumped into the water around California, and we scramble to inhabit a newborn baby. We are all aliens from other planets that were punished. Some of us were revolutionaries, some of us were criminals, some of us were just at the wrong place at the wrong time... but we are caped off from our immortality. In essential form... we are weightless beings that feel 100% happiness, can see everything, can operate with telekenisis and ESP... but yet we are trapped in the human body. I have much more information, but I don't think its in your best interest to lay down all the bulk of it now. I'm sorry to have told you all this, but you need to know the truth

jaguarmike, above top secret 19 Comments [11/23/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 109934

WorldNetDaily spoke to right-wing radio host Michael Savage yesterday about the shooting in Charleston. Savage told the far-right outlet that he was just asking the question: Is the government behind the shooting?

Savage had this to say to WND immediately after his program ended: “How can we know? Was he a crazed racist? A programmed killer set loose by the government? Was it the suboxone, a known violence-inducing drug he was likely on courtesy of the AMA (American Medical Association)? Is his father a nut? All we know is that nine decent Christians were slaughtered like chickens in their own church – not in Iraq, but in the USA. And right away we saw Attorney General Janet Lynch on the pulpit, Obama decrying guns, while the band plays on, while his wife, daughters and mother-in-law enjoy shopping in Rome with Air Force One as their royal carriage.”

Michael Savage, Right Wing Watch 7 Comments [6/22/2015 6:13:03 PM]
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Quote# 74401

And Glenn Beck can teach whatever he wants. Got something against self-taught individuals? Like Abe Lincoln? Like Rush Limbaugh, like Sean Hannity. Or are you saying that you have to be a college educated, education major indoctrinated in socialist teaching philosophy, in order to be our sole instructors.

...Glenn Beck never sleeps because he is always reading, reading, reading, learning, learning, learning, and now he has become quite expert in early American history. I would ten times prefer to get my American history from him than some biased, liberal Professor type, and most of the Professors at public institutions of higher learning are exactly that. I know, as I retired from one of those liberal public Universities, and was surrounded by the philosophical political enemy.

flaglady47, Free Republic 56 Comments [7/10/2010 11:10:13 AM]
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Quote# 110992

Istanbul| Ottomans were the first to walk on the surface of the moon, not Neil Armstrong, said Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, yesterday, during an iftar (fast-breaking) dinner hosted by the Turkish Green Crescent.

Mr. Erdogan claimed that Muslim explorers reached the Moon more than 300 years before the beginning of the Appolo program, vowing to build a mosque “in the crater” where they landed.

“It is alleged that the first man to walk on the moon was Neil Armstrong in 1969,” Erdogan said. “In fact, Muslim space explorers reached our satellite 334 years before that, in 1635. Everyone knows the story of the famous aviator, Lagâri Hasan Çelebi, the “Ottoman Rocket Man”, who made the first successful manned rocket flight in 1633. What you might not know, is that he attempted to reach the moon, two years later, and could very well have succeeded!”

The story of Lagari Hasan Çelebi was purported by a famous 17th century Arab merchant and traveller, Mehmed Zilli, also known as Evliya Çelebi. In his famous travelog, he explains that Lagari Hasan Çelebi launched in a 7-winged rocket using 50 okka (63.5 kg or 140 lbs) of gunpowder. It took off from Sarayburnu, a site below the Topkapi Palace in Istanbul.

As Evliya Celebi wrote, Lagari proclaimed before launch “O my sultan! Be blessed, I am going to talk to Jesus!”, before lighting the rocket’s gunpowder. He then ascended more than 200 meters in the air and landed in the sea, hundreds of meters from his takeoff point. Swimming ashore, he allegedly reported: “O my sultan! Jesus sends his regards to you!”.

President Erdogan’s surprising claim generated some whispers and laughter from the audience, a reaction that clearly angered the Turkish politician. He slammed the skeptics for mocking his claims, adding that he would soon have the proofs to back his claims.

“Why do you not believe it? Because you’ve never believed that a Muslim can do such a thing, just like you’ve never believed that our ancestors could manage to launch ships in the Golden Horn after transporting them across land,” Erdogan said, referring to Ottoman Sultan Mehmet II’s conquest of Istanbul in 1453. “This claim is not new. A number of academics in Turkey and in the rest of the world have made this claim, and I believe they are right. NASA may have destroyed most of the physical evidence of the Ottoman’s success during the Apollo 11 mission, but we’ll try to find any evidence that might have escaped the cover up.”

The Turkish President did not, however, give any precision about the proofs he was expecting to find nor how he was hoping to gather them.

The story of Lagâri Hasan Çelebi is considered a legend by most historians, and most experts believe that it is impossible that the “aviator” could have survived a flight into outer space.

His first flight was, indeed, addressed in an experiment by the television show MythBusters, on November 11, 2009, in the episode “Crash and Burn”. The rocket constructed for the TV show did not adhere closely, however, to Evliya Çelebi’s descriptions and the final design did not attempt to utilize materials of the period;

The team noted that Evliya Çelebi had not sufficiently specified the alleged design used by Lagâri Hasan, but concluded that it would have been “extremely difficult” for a 17th-century figure, without access to modern steel alloys and welding techniques, to land safely or even achieve thrust at all. This conclusion was backed by the fact that, although the re-imagined rocket rose, it exploded in midflight

Recep Tayyip Erdogan, World News Daily Report 21 Comments [7/22/2015 2:47:10 AM]
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