You got it backwards.
Creationism is based upon science, reason and tons of evidence.
Evolution is based on the blind acceptance of superstitions and fairy tales.
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Oh, good. You'll be able to tell us what this evidence is, then.
*waits*
*and waits*
*waits some more*
Is after 2,000 years a good time to pack in waiting?
The courts have ruled, objectively, that creationism is based upon religion. Without divine revelation, you would not have creationism.
This is getting weird. That's, what, the fourth or fifth thing submitted in the last few days alone that DIRECTLY contradicts reality on every point? How in the heck do these people manage to live in this world? They would be trying to drink air and breathe water!
~David D.G.
Come on then, where's this reason and tons of evidence? Oh no, I let myself in for some fundy logic and Bible verses. I guess I'll go back to my fairy tales and blind acceptance of being told what is right.
Pot and Kettle Award is more appropriate for someone leveling deserved criticisms for traits that he himself shares. Speck and Plank Award is closer, but still suggests inherent flaws on the side of the one being criticized. This is more the sort of thing that suits a Mirror Award, and of the most literal sort, since he has got the polarity of things completely the reverse of reality here (and goes so far as to claim that WE have it backward!).
~David D.G.
Actually, it's the other way around. Creationism is based on the things you say evolution is based on. Evolution is based on science and reason. I'm wondering if this deserves another "Alternate Bizzaro Universe" award (also I would say most of the things in Kent Hovinds blog about his legal problems deserve it too)?
Hmmmm....I am a Christian who doesn't really bother with creationism vs. evolution at all. Evolution makes more sense to me personally, since there is so much bloody evidence for it about, but the fact that man evolved doesn't prevent me from believing in God in any way.
But from a purely objective perspective... Neanderthalls are WAY easier to believe in than a magical, invisible man with a handful of mud.
Yes, CRASH, you got it backwards. Now, take your head out of your ass, and relax your shoulders a bit.
Geek; apparently, he be serious. If you go to the thread on Theology Online, according to his profile, he lists himself as Christian and Right Wing Zealot. No more need be said.
Faux CRASH or real CRASH? We've had fundies jump aboard when they get quoted, but saying that "public school" is 3 words is too much. I'm guessing you're a CRASH impersonator.
Either way, the actual CRASH in the OP is perfectly sane; he just needs a few posting tips in order to be understood.
1. Put the "You got it backwards" remark at the bottom.
2. Put the rest in quote tags and indicate who said it.
OK, brain it's like this, children say this when insulting each other: "I'm rubber, you're glue, whatever you say bounces off me and sticks to you." CRASH was rebutting a post that said that evolution is based on science and evidence, creation from superstitions and fairy tales.
There are only 3 words that can describe this website full of people that evolved from slime.....Public School!
HA HA HA HA HA HAHAHAHAHA. Sounds like you quit public school if you think that it's A)capitalized and B) 3 words instead of two. They have programs to help you with that, you know.
Dread Helm said "Evolution is a load of crap."
Quite right there, evolution is a load of crap with a ton of shit to back it up. Now the creation story; that there is just plain ol' truth as plain as can be with that bastion of fact and reliablility known as the Bible to back it up. You have me convinced.[/sarcasm]
Shalom wrote:
This whole leaving a comment thing is way too much fun.
For those who are easily amused, apparently so.
Yeah it is, Shalom, but like many silly people, you don't know when to quit and went too far there. By posting so many of them you solidly labeled yourself a troll and no one actually believes you mean any of those comments, so no one will really give you the outraged attention you are aparently seeking.
Next time just drop one, MAYBE two into a board and maybe people will bite at your trolling bait.
Good luck!
It's kooky how the Hovind fan boys on that thread keep saying that he is only accused of tax evasion. As far as any information I can find states, he is not contesting the facts of the case against him, he is taking the position that the government has no right to levy the tax in the first place.
You can't just pick and choose what laws you want to apply to you and what ones you would like to ignore. He will be convicted, not because he is a "threat" to the evolutionists, but because he got greedy and tried to work the system and got caught.
>>Way to go, CRASH! When the "goon squad" mentions you and quotes you, you've done something right. <<
We're not the Goon Squad, the Goon Squad takes residence over at Something Awful
Also, I have a sneaking suspicion that all o the individuals who have posted their celebration of CRASH onto the board are actually just sockpuppets.
@Shalom
This whole leaving a comment thing is way too much fun.
The finer points of which still appear to be way beyond you...
This whole leaving a comment thing is way too much fun.
As we say over here:
Een kinderhand is snel gevuld.
(The hand of a child is filled easily)
The meaning of the proverb:
It is easy to please a child (or "simple " people).
<<< There are only 3 words that can describe this website full of people that evolved from slime.....Public School! >>>
Learn to count, dipshit.
And that's the least of your problems.
<<< Also, I have a sneaking suspicion that all o the individuals who have posted their celebration of CRASH onto the board are actually just sockpuppets. >>>
Hard to say. The content makes it seem likely, but they're posted just far enough apart that the troll must have had an absurd amount of time on its hands. If they were only a minute or two apart, it would have been obvious, but 10-15 minutes, it's a bit tougher to be sure. Could just be someone posted a link to this and several people decided to invade at approximately the same time.
Dante's Virgil: (in response to "HA HA HA HA HA HAHAHAHAHA. Sounds like you quit public school if you think that it's A)capitalized and B) 3 words instead of two. They have programs to help you with that, you know.")
*slaps forehead* The joke was that was that he went to Publik Skool, genius.
Hahaha i read this wrong when i looked at it for the first time, i though he said
"EVOLUTION is based upon science, reason and tons of evidence.
CREATIONISM is based on the blind acceptance of superstitions and fairy tales."
and i thought.... wait.. yeah thats correct... isnt it?... WAIT I MINUTE! I READ THAT WRONG!
All right, who came up with this horse shit? I want this hunam's head removed, what say you, everyone?
I think that no matter what religion you follow, or choose not to follow they all have the same basic message. LOVE ONE ANOTHER. Don't hate people...Open your mind! Evolution is FACT! Global warming is happening and we need to stop fighting, come together as the entire human race (not one human being excluded) and ensure that we have a planet for our children to live on. You Sir need some help. Talk to someone outside your brain washed community and start helping your fellow man + woman.
Nooooo, evolution is based on, for example, old bone pieces belonging to never before mentioned animals.
You know I think I've spoken with Crash before in a totally unrelated bussines I told him:
Ya know, it must be hard being an asshole, all that shit coming out of you so often, certainly you would be envying the mouth, given to such pleasant tastes, men and women have a lot of sexuality to offer to each other there if ya get my point ;) -wink-.
He answered:
You got it backwards.
My asshole get the "sexuality" of men there and I love it.
My mouth instead is where all my shit comes out of very often.
(If those two are not one and the same then I can bet this is the post Crash was answering to:
selat yriaf dna snoititsrepus fo ecnatpecca dnilb eht no desab si noitulovE
ecnedive fo snot dna nosear ,ecneics nopu desab si msinoitaerC
That's the only way his words could make any sense!!!)
i think you had Creationism and Evolution flipped around. A book written in a different language only to be inturpreted many different times. we all know the language barrier creats different meanings, and so on.....SO Inturpretaion of a Story, is not evidence. Clearly Mary got knocked up out of wed lock, which was wrong on her part, so to hide the embarrassment, she claimed it was imaculate conception. That never happened back then, the woman who could not resist the animalistic nature of a human. So to make it "make sense" a story evolved Ohhh and there is a start to one of the best selling novels in history!
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I don't know what fits more, "Alternate Bizzaro Universe Award", or "So Close, Yet So Far Away Award".
*SNAP*
HE IS SO GOING TO FUCKING DIE!!!!!!! I HAVE NEVER BEEN INSULTED SO MUCH IN MY LIFE! CALL ME A BLIND IDIOT DO YOU?!
REASON? THE FUCKING BIBLE! EVIDENCE? STILL THE BIBLE! ORIGIN OF CREATIONISM? THE BIBLE! SELF-JUSTIFICATION FUCKING PISSES ME OFF!
Creationism has about as much to do with science as Abraham Lincoln had to do with microprocessing technology.
I have a hard time believing that this is simply the result of a self-imposed delusion, and not simply lying to oneself in a desperate, last-ditch attempt to prove an already-shaky point.
I hate to admit it but,
"Beginning with Thomas Burnet's Sacred Theory of the Earth in 1685, natural philosophers began to explore the idea that the Earth had changed over time. Burnet and his contemporaries interpreted Earth's past in terms of events described in the Bible, but their work laid the intellectual foundations for secular interpretations of Earth history.(i.e. Evolution/Big Bang)" From Wiki.
But I guess the Fundies could have got to that as well. LOL
It still doesn't really mean theres scientific evidence to back it up, cos they went on to relate it too the bible and away from science, which only a Fundie could do.
The scientists took the idea and formed the Evolution theory/Big Bang. So on that basis Evolution has the same evidence and Science behind it.
what you just said completely contradicts your beliefs. believers in creationism have never actually given facts to present to school boards but rather have rallied to "teach the controversy". you sound immature and you dont belong in any area in which a childs mind can be molded and affected. your "science" has no proof, therefore making it a "fairytale and superstition" please tell me why you hate the fact that evolution happened, since it isnt directly affecting you or your well-being. you sound like a child who just heard santa doesnt exist, get over it and take down the christmas lights thank you.
Okay, so where is the science, physical evidence, i.e proof positive documents, not old pieces of political crap.
With evolution, we have DNA to prove it :D
Yay Logic!!!!
seriously, how dumb are you, all religions, not just christianity try to do one simple fact, explain all things that just can't be explained because no matter how much science or faith we have, no one person on earth will ever know what happens to you when you die, never the less how life on earth really started.
yes there are tons off evidence of creationism,haha,
there is if you create your evidence your self;
you are just to blinded by your faith,that's no problem your just a victim of the propaganda off the church (there good at it)
religion makes people blind and ignorant,and it is inhumane.
why can't a kid with the age of 15 have abortion? does she has to waste here studies and a big part of here life for an unborn "life".
why can't a person who is living in great pain and who is incurably sick take his own life?
why suffer in this life,you will not have a second chance lif your live now!
and why check this box if you're a human? afraid that the "devil" will write something? you probably think I am a kind of "satan" now. but I can tell you I am a human,only I am one with a common sense.
belief is opium off the people ( karl marx)
I really want to see your evidence and reasons for creationism EXCEPT THE F***KING BIBLE. Seriously, it's big book full of fairy tales. And btw. evolution=science, science="the full opposite of blind acceptance"
I really want to see your evidence and reasons for creationism EXCEPT THE F***KING BIBLE. Seriously, it's big book full of fairy tales. And btw. evolution=science, science="the full opposite of blind acceptance"
Uh huh...
HOW?
EXPLAIN.
Nothing?
That's what I THOUGHT.
There is no SCIENCE or EVIDENCE that supports your dumbass idea of Creationism.
You, dumbass Christian, are the one who has this backwards.
Oh yeah, creationism is REALLY science-y. Why, THE BIBLE supports it! It MUST be true! Whereas evolution just has hundreds of fossils and millions of animals and plants that support the theory. THERE'S NO WAY IT COULD BE TRUE.
If you have Creationism evidence, show it to us. and if you have proof that evolution evidence DOESNT exist, show it to us. Whats that? You cant do any of that? why does that not surprise me? P.S. is there an "all your evidence are belong to us" award? or at least anything similar? if so, this post deserves it.
this brings the question:
if thats how it is, then...
why does evolution comes with all the theories and the research, without bothering to mencion creationism; and creationism only tries to discredit evolution but with no actual reseach to prove its claims?
ever read the bible?
ever read any book of evolution?
wich one is filled with superstitions and fairy tales?
so wheres this science and tons of evidence that you can "support" consciouly without having your brain explode lol
oh yeah evolution probably has mroe science than you can think of so ummmmm i think thats ....... BURN!!
Humm... I want to see that ton of evidence saying the world poofed out of an old cranky man's sleeve.
Oh, besides the Bible saying so.
"Tons of evidence"? I'm ready to concede the point, somewhat... if one takes into account the cumulative mass of all the Bibles printed so far.
-- And see this other book!
-- But it's the same: the Bible...
-- No, look: they have a different cover!
Pastafarianism is also based upon science, reason and tons of evidence
for details check your local italian restaurant or pasta bar
pasta = real
therefore FSM = real
see, I just made the FSM exist, what else shall we make exist through evidence?
I honestly want someone, anyone, to give me ONE piece of this "ton of evidence". Please, enlighten me. One thing that somehow somewhere shows the remote possibility that there is a being that controls the universe in any shape or form. Just one thing.
Also, the bible doesn't count.
Please provide ANY physical evidence of creationism. I'm willing to consider any REAL evidence. But of course, you won't because you can't, as there is none.
On the other hand, there is abundant evidence for evolution if you would just have a look.
and I assume all this "evidence" is clearly stated in the bible right? and all this "blind faith" we have in things like repeatable experiments ...
I cant believe I have been so wrong all these years!
(Note to the extremely ignorant - this is sarcasm ...)
You got it wrong
Evolution is based upon science, reason and tons of evidence
christanity is based on the blind acceptance of superstitions and fairy tales
@ Sandman,
Is God invisible? Or are we blind?
Explanation: A fair few variety of hawks search for their food amongst sugar cane crops which have a large population of field mice. Usually the hawk would be very high up when seeing a mouse in a field before swooping down at high speeds.
If a human was in the sky, in the same place as the hawk, just because they don't see the mouse, does it mean that it doesn't exist?
No, my statement doesn't prove God, it generally disproves disproving God.
Creationism is based on the blind acceptance of superstitions and fairy tales.
Evolution is based upon science, reason and tons of evidence.
So in lieu of an actual argument, s/h/it just goes, "NO U!" Tell us, CRASH, are evolutionists rubber or glue?
And there we have it... 'creationism is based on science reason blah blah' - And how? 'Cos i said so'
Try reading the accumulated works on evolution and then see if 3 or 4 pages of biblical guess work hold any weight you plank! (the bible was written by various goat herders and not scientists by the way)
Though, 'Cos i said so' can remove even the toughest stains!
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