<a href="http://www.kids4truth.com/watchmaker/watch.html " target="_blank">Video of a watch evolving in the ocean...</a>
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Hell, even my seven year old knows the difference between organic and inorganic material. This is an example of raising the bar on polished stupidity.
I wonder too... the poem claims that everything in nature is so perfectly fine, yet isn't this the same nature that is broken and marred by man's sin? Isn't this the same worldly nature that Christians are supposed to reject and hate?
One day my young brother, he looked at me
He asked "what made life on the earth, in the sea"
I said "was the man, living in the sky"
He looked at me strange, so I asked him "Why?"
"My teacher" he said "taught us something strange"
"That life took billions of years to arrange"
"Your teacher's mistaken, she is a fool"
"And must not realize she is Satan's tool"
"Those who use science and logic you see"
"And clasify all God's creatures A to Z"
"Will one day burn in a place we call Hell"
"And if you don't want to wind up there as well"
"Burn all those text books, for they are abhoared"
"Throw off your questions and believe in the lord"
See...I can do fundie poetry too.
A cute, charmingly packaged lie is still a lie. Personally, I find this sort of thing offensive -- presenting, as if it were a self-evident truth even a child can comprehend in a Dr. Seuss-type arrangement, an illogical analogy that has long since been proved worthless. The disingenuousness of this project is far more "ungodly" than evolutionary theory could ever be.
~David D.G.
Oh! Can I write chapter 2?
Then one day the watch,
Found a little girl watch.
And something something,
'till he found her crotch....
Ok, it still needs work.
How do these dipshits explain the fact that all life can reproduce without the assistance of some cosmic Peter Pan, but no one has ever observed light machinery doing it?
No kid made that cartoon. Add that to the pile of lies.
Okayyyy...
Watching this and listening to the narrator, the only thing that kept going through my head was, "Happy Christmas to all and to all a good night!" Same cadence, and it's just about as true.
Hmmm ... I might be going out on a limb here ... but I get the distinct impression that maybe, just maybe, the relative orbital speeds of the planets in that Solar-system animation at the end were not to scale with each other....
okay, that was really cute. but a watch is manmade.
I think initially, we were created by some sort of higher power, but everything changed and evolved to meet their needs.
The watchmaker is a false analogy because it figuers that because two objects share one common quality, they must have another quality in common.
1. A watch is complex
2. A watch has a watchmaker
3. The universe is also complex
4. Therefore the universe has a watchmaker
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but even if you accept it as valid, you gotta keep going.
5)the universe's 'watchmaker' is complex
6)the universe must have a maker.
and on and on.
So, gregfl, does that mean that if God is worth worshipping, his Great-GrandGod is even more so?
~David D.G.
Thanks, David! I guess people still read the older quotes.
In that case, maybe I won't feel so stupid for posting this.
Alright, everyone, get your best Dr. Suess voice out!
Learning of life: selection, mutation
So many terms! Such great consternation!
A redwood, an eagle, a mushroom, a fern
The subject’s so great, but so darn hard to learn!
All of this life, so wondrous and grand!
Perhaps it was made by a watchmaker’s hand?
No, that would be silly; it just isn’t right.
But it’s easy! Oh joy! Oh what a delight!
Science is easy when you ignore facts
And resort, instead, to fallacious attacks,
Straw men, red herrings, God of the gaps!
Maybe a little quote mining, perhaps?
A fairy tale, yes, but easy to learn!
With a story so simple, a degree you can earn!
Thus, we must stick together! “Creation!” we’ll shout
But we’ll discover naught; garbage in, garbage out.
Now I just have to learn flash animation.
(© Maronan, 2006. If you must use it, please at least mention me or something!)
Maronan: I mean, the fact that you're already doing such a great job of typing is impressive in the first place, what with your big clawed paws and all; the compositional achievement just makes it even more impressive!
;^D
~David D.G.
...what with your big clawed paws and all...
*Sshh, don't tell anyone, but I secretly type with boxing gloves on.*
Like I said, thanks! It's the first time I've ever published any of my poetry in any sense. (It's also my second poem ever that's not dependent on a larger work for context.)
Maronan, that's great... Your meter petered out though. Maybe you'd consider something like:
Science is easy when you ignore facts
And resort, instead, to fallacious attacks,
Straw men, red herrings, God of the gaps!
Denying it all, when arguments collapse.
A fairy tale, yes, but easy to learn!
A 'degree' to collect, with a few grand burn!
Thus, we must stick together! “Creation!” we’ll shout
The world will advance, but we'll miss out.
Julian I tried reading your revisions aloud, and the last line of each stanza seems to have the wrong number of syllables.
Try breaking up the contraction in the last line.
The world will advance, but we will miss out.
The last line of the second stanza works, if you rush the word "arguments," but it seems awkward, otherwise.
Incidentally: In the original, emphasize the first syllable of the word "discover" in the last line. That's how I read it originally; "but we'll DIScover naught, garbage in, garbage out."
Was that watch a living being, mating and giving birth to other little timepieces?
This kid can't decide if "timepieces" means hours, minutes, seconds or t, i, m, and e.
Comment by Babbleon, 16 years ago (2006), id #58394
Lying to children. This is why fundies make me so angry. This is why science education in the U.S. is slipping so far behind other industrialized countries. They must be stopped before they succeed in regressing us back to the Dark Ages.
Unfortunately the education situation is not improving in the US in 2022. Some other comments above have also pointed out how targetting the youth with disinformation is wrong. Well, today they're claiming that proper education is indoctrination and grooming and are proposing to taint biology again with creationist uncertainty propaganda, are trying to restore forced prayers in public schools, to ban sex education (and to promote misogynism and "abstinence only"), to ban prejudice awareness topics, they're even closing public libraries. Enforcing taboos with the law, like criminalizing abortion. Restricting voting and fighting against democracy. General retrogradation for some states.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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