I work with a woman who shares parenting duty with another woman. Oddly they both appear butch to me. They didn't use the turkey baster they adopted instead from central America.
Now I cant argue with my wife when she says that the kid is better off as far as health and clean living environment is concerned. and they even buy her the girly girl toys she craves, so she may actually grow up somewhat normal....
....but...
the cumulative affect on not only the kid but on society itself is devastating the country and has to be stopped.
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... says the Mexican cowboy. I'm sure bunches of people around me would see that name and, under any other circumstances, say "Psh. Probably an illegal."
Guess what political affiliation most people share where I live.
So even though you have nothing to go on but your own biased opinion, and even admit that the childs life is better than it would otherwise be...you think the child, society, and the country are somehow being DAMAGED by this?
By which part? The loving parental figures? The child having a better life than would otherwise be possible? Perhaps her being healthy is what is damaging things? Or being given "girly girl toys", whatever those are?
I can say that YOU are devastating the country with your homophobic views, spreading lies and intolerance, and your own words back that up. But YOU fail to say anything that backs up what YOU said, except that your opinion is that the women are "butch". Not exactly evidence of anything, is it? If someone said YOU were caring, would that mean you were automatically gay?
the cumulative affect on not only the kid but on society itself is devastating the country
Please do explain which "effect" you are talking about.
Oddly they both appear butch to me.
Why is that odd and what does it have to do with the desire to adopt a child?
They didn't use the turkey baster ..
The? There's only one?! And where are you getting this information?
Please cite your sources that show children and society suffer a cumulative, and apparently negative, affect (effect!) as a direct result of a gay couple adopting a child. (And no, your sources cannot be links to blog sites where others are expressing the same views.)
Well, so the kid is ok, even more civic than other kids, but you insist that she will be bad. You´re not sounding convincing.
Ah, PassingThrough, you see in Vaquero's mind the "butch" lesbians are pretending to be men, and so wouldn't want children whereas the "femme" lesbians are women who just sleep with the wrong sex, and so they would want to have children.
The child is in a loving home and her odds of living a healthy, good life are greatly enhanced as opposed to NOT being adopted by anyone (including you fundie christians who are always bleating about The Holy Embryo) I fail to see how this couple adopting a child devastates this country in any way whatsoever.
SHUT UP.
Please present your evidence that "the cumulative affect on not only the kid but on society itself is devastating the country and has to be stopped."
Otherwise all we have is your opinion, which looks very much like bigotry.
And please brush up on your punctuation, because at first glance, I thought the women had adopted a turkey baster from Central America.
Why are fundies so obsessed with lesbians conceiving using a "turkey baster?"
Dude, it is not possible to conceive a child by squirting semen into a woman's vagina through a turkey baster. Besides, you would need like a pint of semen to even fill that thing enough so it would work. Unless you want to throw a "Spooge-In-the-Cup" party for all your guy friends, it will take about a week molesting yourself full-time to get that quantity, and since sperm only remains viable outside the body for a short time, you would have to mix frozen, semi-frozen, and fresh sperm...
...gah! Get....image.....out.....of.....my.....head....!
Well, it's not like they can go out and actually understand lesbian or gay couples. The more you understand people, the harder it becomes to hate them. And we can't have any of those hippie "love thy neighbor as thyself" people mucking about.
(No, i'm not bitter. Really.)
they even buy her the girly girl toys she craves, so she may actually grow up somewhat normal
Kids raised by gay couples generally do grow up normal. They also grow up straight as often as kids raised by straight couples. The biggest problem faced by kids raised by gays is bullying and discrimination by homophobes like Vaquero, who take their attitudes toward the parents out on the kids.
"the cumulative affect on not only the kid but on society itself is devastating the country and has to be stopped."
A little girl is being raised by a couple of women, who by your own account are treating her well and normally in all respects, and you think this somehow has a deleterious effect on the ENTIRE COUNTRY ? Dude, I doubt that anybody but their immediate circle even knows about them, let alone is affected by them in any way. This is strictly your own homophobic xenophobia going into overdrive.
Now, if you want to talk about bad cumulative effects on the entire country, "Vaquero," we could discuss illegal immigration....
~David D.G.
So you have no evidence these two women are lesbians, they just share parenting duties... they adopted a child from a poor country to raise it here where it will be far better off, they buy it what it wants and are raising it as you would label "normal", and this means we should keep gays from marrying or adopting children? What is your point? Nothing in this post suggests it is a bad thing.
You admit that the child is better off and probably growing up "somewhat normal," but then you claim that there is a devastating cumulative effect inflicted upon her. One or the other, dipshit, you can't have it both ways.
Do tell, what IS "somewhat normal?" That phrase probably describes everyone.
The devastating effects on our society are coming from small-minded persons such as you.
@PassingThrough
Please cite your sources that show children and society suffer a cumulative, and apparently negative, affect (effect!) as a direct result of a gay couple adopting a child. (And no, your sources cannot be links to blog sites where others are expressing the same views.)
PassingThrough, you said it.
Implicit in Vaquero's comment, is it OK for homosexual women to raise children conceived by artificial means but not OK to adopt them? What about lesbian women who conceive children the normal way (it still works) and want to raise them?
Hey, my wife divorced me at the news of the adoption of this girl. Really! and our roof caved in, our neighbors killed each other, and a big boiling pit of lava opened up in the yard and swallowed up our garage and the other neighbor's dog.
Okay, that was actually a good thing. For me anyway. But everything else sucked ass.
Yes. Children, and society, are horribly - irrevocably, even - damaged by prosperity, education, and love.
Best. Logic. Ever.
P0: Child is being raised by lesbians
P1. Child is being raised in a loving home.
P2. Child is much better off with the lesbians than in her original home.
P3. Childs needs are met.
P4. Child is going to turn out normal
So obviously...
C: Same sex couples raising children are devastating the country.
It's so obvious, isn't it?
Ah, PassingThrough, you see in Vaquero's mind the "butch" lesbians are pretending to be men, and so wouldn't want children whereas the "femme" lesbians are women who just sleep with the wrong sex, and so they would want to have children.
Well, the vibe I get from his post is that Vaquero considers that a butch/femme couple mimics the stereotypical male/female relation, and as such is something of a lesser evil compared to a butch/butch couple, which he'd see as gay/unnatural squared.
I suspect the fuckwit would have less problems with a femme/femme couple. Of course, not all lesbians conform to one of these stereotypes, and he has yet to prove that the women he's maligning are gay anyway.
"I work with a woman who shares parenting duty with another woman. Oddly they both appear butch to me."
Because all lesbian relationships must consist of a butch and a femme, gotcha.
"and they even buy her the girly girl toys she craves, so she may actually grow up somewhat normal...."
It's been scientifically determined that the administration of "girly girl toys" in childhood profoundly affects rates of lesbianism in adulthood.
Or not.
"the cumulative affect on not only the kid but on society itself is devastating the country and has to be stopped."
They might not all be getting girly girl toys, and then we'd all be screwed.
I mean, the most amazing thing about this is the way he poses it. I adopted after I became the legal tutor of the boy, the son of my best friend, a single mother who died from cancer. I was 22 and struggling with a job and my studies, so my mom(a widow), decided to move on and help me. The boy lived this way until I married several years later. Honestly, did we make any damage to society?
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