We have had sufficient evidence to support an abortion-breast cancer link, through biological, epidemiological and experimental evidence — since the 1980s. They knew it back then, but nobody told women that this research was even going on. They're very wealthy. It's a money industry, just like tobacco. A woman who has had an abortion is at risk for breast cancer. It's [the research] showing that the researchers can predict, they can forecast the breast cancer rates in nations that have accurate statistics on induced abortions using their particular mathematical models. They can forecast what the breast cancer rates are going to be in nations that have adequate data. There are things women can do to bring down the risk. Increased child bearing, starting at a younger age, this is the very best way to prevent breast cancer.
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Lies, lies and lies. Show us this empirical evidence!
I'm a pro-life atheist, but, even I can spot non-sense like this a mile away.
"Increased child bearing, starting at a younger age, this is the very best way to prevent breast cancer."
Even if that were true, the younger the woman is, the harder the birth is. And, we don't need MORE children.
Actually, the best way to prevent breast cancer is not to smoke. Also prevents lung cancer and oral cancers. And makes you more popular with the fellas.
I think a lot of women would rather have breast cancer than a baby.
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I keep hearing this word, "evidence", but the fucking fundies never give it. They just like talking about it as if saying the word was evidence enough that they're right.
By the way, happymealungen for the win!
Even if it was true, which is probably not the case -- I'd bet money that it came from some fundie site trying to push it's agenda to pop out more babies -- we would end up a population limited by food supply. So either starvation like what's going on in Africa, or a unlikely increase in breast cancers. Hmmmmm, tough choice!
The pregnancy itself does the trick as I recall. its the "immature" tissue that hasn't been converted to milk production from the first pregnancy yet, that poses the main risk.
You don't actually have to keep the kid..
Can you provide evidence?. Because, as far as I'm concerned, women who have suffered several miscarriages, aren't more likely to suffer breast cancer. Unless you can prove that nature cares whether the death of the foetus is natural or not.
One study that suggests abortion may be linked to a slightly higher risk of breast cancer.
Dozens of well-designed studies which show that there is no link.
Was the first study a statistical fluke or are all the others proof that evil atheists are hiding the truth? You decide. The fundies know.
Increased child bearing, starting at a younger age, this is the very best way to prevent breast cancer.
Bull-fucking-shit. Madonna's mother had about 7 kids (I'm not sure of the exact number) and guess what she died of? Breast cancer!
But hey, they're lying for Jeebus, so it's okay!
There's also a significantly larger risk associated with wearing bras, and I think drinking whole-fat milk (although that might be lung cancer).
It's the problem with statistical analysis, if you pick your data-set badly then it can give you all manner of garbage
Mmm, I wasn't expecting this, but that article exists and was published by that journal
http://www.jpands.org/jpands1203.htm
With my limited knowledge about medicine and statistics, the article seems serious and well written, but I can't really say I understand their graphics and models.
Anyone around here has the knowledge to tell us if the article and the statistics it contains are sound?
Edited to Add:
Here is a page talking about the article, the writer and the journal, apparently they are not very trustworthy:
http://conwebwatch.tripod.com/blog/index.blog?entry_id=1750979
Actually, with pregnancy being a physiologically and evolutionarily VERY significant event, I expect it has a substantial impact on most medical phenomena, such as cancer, depression and alzheimer's.
Yet, I fail to see why we should let this control women's lives, especially drive them to have MORE children at an EARLIER age. NOT LEAST with the desperately over-crowded world we live in.
There are things women can do to bring down the risk.
Yeah. Stop smoking. When it comes to cancer, almost anything else you do gets lost in the noise.
Pretty generic, stupid lies until that last sentence. Childbirth is risky! If it were true that it reduces your risk of breast cancer, it still increases your risk of all kinds of other things. The lifetime risk of maternal death is 1 in 74 (and yes, that's the whole world, I assume you're talking about all women, right?). I'd say a much better plan would be to get your mammograms and catch the cancer while still in stage 1-- at which point you'd have a near-100% 5-yr survival rate.
Karen, you are full of shit. Oh BTW, Karen, you do know that men can get breast cancer also? I guess that destroys your abortion/breast cancer lunacy.
My mother never had an abortion and she had me when she was 26... so why did she have to get her left breast lopped off and had to endue chemo?
so, yeah, fuck you and your terrible lies, Ms Malec.
Let's not get fundie about this, guys. There is epidemiological evidence linking pregnancy and nursing with a reduced breast cancer risk. Check pubmed. You'll find the studies.
There is not, however, solid evidence that induced abortion causes breast cancer.
My mother died of breast cancer, so any using it for your own cause is henious to me.
Karen Malec, DIAF now. That's an order.
If so, every single woman in the world who has have a miscarriage, including me and my own mom, would be bad by now. However...............
Confused?
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