Why do christian women use drugs in labour if labour pain is punishment from god?
for those of you saying it wasn't punishment have you forgotten their punishment for eating the fruit? suffering in childbirth remember? it's punishment!
if he forgave them he would have stopped the pain himself surely! come on
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You realize that every kind of pain is "punishment", don't you? Surely, you should refuse every form of pain medication, from aspirin to morphine, and, for extra measure, refuse all forms of medical treatment, from dentistry, to surgery, to antibiotics, since God will surely cure if you are meant to be cured, right?
I'm sure you're funeral will be lovely.
You try pushing a baby head first through your crotch without pain killers. Then get back to me.
Plus, he's not much of a God if humans can circumvent his punishment with a little technology.
"...he would have stopped the pain himself..."
Like giving women drugs....k, only ignorant fundies punished now.
If YOU were having labor pains, you scum-sucking bottom feeder, you'd be screaming for painkillers too. The punishment here is, letting your stupid ass live to see another day.
I hope your mother was doped up the gills when she pushed you out.
FOAD.
Is it just me, or does the whole concept of extremely painful childbirth seem sort of barbaric when we have c-sections and whatnot? It's not like many places in the world carry out c-sections quite regularly (80% of births in Brazillian private hospitals are c-sections according to the Wiki). Can anyone fill me in?
How does the old George Carlin routine go? Something along the lines of ".. and he'll send you to Hell, a place filled with suffering and despair, where you'll writhe in agony for eternity. But he loves you!".
He's a Poe:
Some answers of his:
Questioner-Was joseph smith a pedophile? He was a 30 year old man with 14 year old wives!?
Bb B-was god himself one - impregnating mary at how old?
Questioner-What do these thoughts involving guardian angels mean (paraphrased)
Bb B-lots of people feel lucifer...
His other questions:
Bb B- Prayer copout?
surely if christians really truly trusted god they would trust him to get them THROUGH problems and not OUT OF them. if you're sick surely you don't ask to get better but you ask for the strength to deal with being sick. surely if you were so moral you would use magic get better cards for people who don't know god and would therefore suffer more mentally than you who has god to lean on
Bb B- I have an idea where jesus was in his teenage years?
looking for his real father of course. he didn't buy this god rubbish either
Bb B- For christians....i found a place where healings truly happen!?
you may have heard of it...the sick get better there...it's called a hospital
Pretty clear given that info.
Childbith is painful because when we began to walk upright (as opposed to the way apes walk on all fours) our pelvis changed and became considerably narrower.
It has nothing to do with a talking snake encouraging a fictional woman to eat an apple.
Sweet poe. However..
Why do christian women use drugs in labour if labour pain is punishment from god?
Even if it wasn't punishment, common sense says squeezing a fucking human head out of your vagina is not going to be pleasant unless you are completely derived of feeling pain either way.
I'll keep saying this, as soon as men everywhere quit their jobs and go back to toiling in the fields with Bronze Age technology, male fundies can shut the heck up about childbirth being the result of Eve's "sin."
So God will never forgive us. The God you worship doesn't give a shit about any of us, and only lets us into heaven by looking through Jesus who has redeemed us.
It's pretty sickening that an all-powerful God couldn't let anyone who's imperfect (which has constantly been said to be impossible from the very beginning) anywhere near him, and therefore has to make them suffer just for existing.
Actually I think he's got a point. He's not saying all women should not use drugs, just the Christian ones. After all, the bible does state that labour pain is a punishment from God, and a woman can only be saved through child birth.
Well, a couple of answers come to my mind.
a)Following your logic, why are you working in MacDonnals or in a collar-n-tie job?. Adam was supposed to be a farmer, you know.
b)Most mammals suffer from childbearing. Are they punished by God too?
c)God forgave us through Jesus and he gave us intelligence to invent anaesthesics.
OP: I've got a few things to tell you-1. Screw you, you heartless, misogynistic S.O.B.!, 2. Stop claiming to speak for God and 3. On behalf of all women (including your mother), SCREW YOU!
@ Niobe: EXACTLY! Thank you!
I didn't eat any forbidden fruit...and the whole BS about how women "can only be saved through child-bearing" was St. Paul's OPINION, not an unquestionable doctrine of God! @ cronenurse: *sarcastic mode on* Yeah, because Adam had NO choice-I mean he couldn't have said no! Eve force-fed Adam the fruit before he had a chance to refuse it. *rolls eyes* (sarcastic mode off)
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