I think im speaking for most of us here when I say I am tired of living in a country that promotes sin and a satanic lifestyle. I was not born a christian only to have some godless person try to instill their beliefs on me or my family. Something needs to change. If we are to win the war on terror then we need to get everyone on the right side. Why dont we see any Christification camps? Children should be taught the Truth of Christ at a young age so that they cannot grow up believing in satan...
I understand why Bush has been divinely inspired by the Lord Jesus Christ, because only he understands the perils that our country and Christian Citizens of the United States face on a daily basis. The inherit threat of the mohammedons must cease, and we must be able to live our lives without fear of being killed in the name of Satan(allah). I think we need to have Christification camps open up through the country, requiring mandatory attendance for people who chose to believe in false religions. This is a real threat we are facing and we need to take it very seriously...
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I think im speaking for most of us here ...
No you're not, and ummm, no you're not!
I say I am tired of living in a country that promotes sin and a satanic lifestyle
Well move to fucking St Kitts and Nevis then T&T.
Children should be taught the Truth of Christ at a young age so that they cannot grow up believing in satan...
Ummmmmm, I don't know about you, but I thought it was places like your Christ camps that taught people to believe in Satan.
we must be able to live our lives without fear of being killed in the name of Satan(allah).
Your God is Satan? What the...! And then Dr Jeckyll got Mr Hyde drunk and proceded to fellate him in the jacuzzi.
I think im speaking for most of us here when I say I am tired of living in a country that promotes sin and a satanic lifestyle.
Then I'll take a page from your own neocons and say "Get the hell out of the country, then."
Children should be taught the Truth of Christ at a young age so that they cannot grow up believing in satan... I assure you that as an atheist, I don't believe in Satan. On the contrary, as a Christian, you do!
"If we are to win the war on terror then we need to get everyone on the right side. Why dont we see any Christification camps?"
That's because until about 200 years ago, the Catholics realized that the Inquisition wasn't working. Take a lesson.
"I understand why Bush has been divinely inspired by the Lord Jesus Christ, because only he understands the perils that our country and Christian Citizens of the United States face on a daily basis."
No, they did that so they could buy your vote. I see it worked.
"The inherit threat of the mohammedons must cease, and we must be able to live our lives without fear of being killed in the name of Satan(allah)."
First, I think that that little phrase "love your enemies" must not be in your bible. Second, you sound like a Christian version of an Ingsoc party member. Frighteningly so.
"I think im speaking for most of us here when I say I am tired of living in a country that promotes sin and a satanic lifestyle."
I think I speak for many here when I say that we're tired of zealous Christians branding our life-styles sinful and Satanic. We are not sinful and, if you would actually take a look, you might notice that we do not worship Satan.
"I was not born a christian only to have some godless person try to instill their beliefs on me or my family."
Get bent. No one is born a Christian anymore than they are born Republican or born an astronaut.
As long as Christians are allowed to "share their beliefs" with others, the "godless" must be afforded that right too.
"Something needs to change."
I agree. You and your Christian pals need to pull your heads out of the sand and catch up with the rest of us in the 21st century.
"If we are to win the war on terror then we need to get everyone on the right side."
You do understand that there are more than two sides in the "war on terror," don't you.
"Why dont we see any Christification camps? Children should be taught the Truth of Christ at a young age so that they cannot grow up believing in satan..."
First, we DO see camps like that; heinous, mind-warping establishments where children are taught to believe many ridiculously false things are facts. Churches, schools and camps where children are brainwashed to Christianity before they have the knowledge and power to fight back.
Second, believing in Satan is part of YOUR theology, dipshit.
"I understand why Bush has been divinely inspired by the Lord Jesus Christ, because only he understands the perils that our country and Christian Citizens of the United States face on a daily basis."
Other than when he needs to go potty, I don't think there is anything that ONLY George Bush knows. I defy you to show that GWB has been divinely inspired. Just saying that doesn't make it true.
"The inherit threat of the mohammedons must cease, and we must be able to live our lives without fear of being killed in the name of Satan(allah)."
Mohammedons?" How very 19th century of you.
Allah isn't Satan. Allah is the same imaginary god you worship, it's just the arabic word for god. Read your Bible, T&T. You seem very unclear as to who or what Satan is.
"I think we need to have Christification camps open up through the country, requiring mandatory attendance for people who chose to believe in false religions."
Concentration camps? Christian camps on the order of the Chinese "re-education camps? How 'bout if we had some "knock the delusions out of you" camps for assisting Fundie Christians back into the real world?
"This is a real threat we are facing and we need to take it very seriously..."
I agree. The spectre of your Christianizing camps is a real threat. If your pipe dream ever actually got some backing, we would have to take serious action.
Ooooh, you cannot reach me now
Ooooh, no matter how you try
Goodbye, cruel world, it's over
Walk on by.
Sitting in a bunker here behind my wall
Waiting for the worms to come.
In perfect isolation here behind my wall
Waiting for the worms to come.
Waiting
For the Worms
Would you like to see Britannia
Rule again, my friend?
All you have to do is follow the worms.
Would you like to send our colored cousins
Home again, my friend?
All you need to do is follow the worms.
I think im speaking for most of us here
I am glad I am not where ever you are.
when I say I am tired of living in a country that promotes sin and a satanic lifestyle.
Then move to Iran.
I was not born a christian only to have some godless person try to instill their beliefs on me or my family.
Actually you were not born a Christian. You had to be taught Christianity after you were born. However, freedom of religion allows anyone to try to instill our lack of religion on you and you are allowed to try to instill your particular religion on me.
Something needs to change.
No.
If we are to win the war on terror then we need to get everyone on the right side.
Absolutely! Let's all get on the side of tollerance, liberty and freedom against tyrany and opression
Why dont we see any Christification camps?
Why don't you start some Christification camps? I'll bet you will have hordes of volunteers lining up to attend.
Children should be taught the Truth of Christ at a young age so that they cannot grow up believing in satan...
Children should be taught to seek real truth, to skeptically test all assertions at a young age so that they cannot be hoodwinked by any new or old set of lies when they grow up
I understand why Bush has been divinely inspired by the Lord Jesus Christ, because only he understands the perils that our country and Christian Citizens of the United States face on a daily basis.
You understand nothing.
The inherit threat of the mohammedons must cease, and we must be able to live our lives without fear of being killed in the name of Satan(allah).
Allah is not satan. Allah is the Arab word for God. Nothing more nothing less. Muslims share with Christians the idea that their concept of the one and only God is the true one and that all others are false and dangerous. Such thinking must end before a lasting peace is possible.
I think we need to have Christification camps open up through the country, requiring mandatory attendance for people who chose to believe in false religions.
So you want the government to determine which religions are false. Throw out the first ammendment. Let's send all of those who believe in a false religion to the camps. Muslims, Hindus, Sikhs, Buddhists, Christian Scientists, Roman Catholics, Mormons, Mennonites, Lutharines, Methodists, Presbyterians, ...
This is a real threat we are facing and we need to take it very seriously...
I see mainly a threat to human rights and freedoms here.
And I thought Christians were against Hitler and totalitarian regimes where no freedom of religion was allowed.
Listen to me Carm m' boy/lass. There should not be any "Christianization" camps and I'll tell you why. Because that's not the way Christ wants it. Remember when he said "you will be persecuted for my sake"; Persecution is SUPPOSED to happen, so LET IT.
Slainte!
Why dont we see any Christification camps?
Because they would be against the law. You have churches, and you're allowed to preach until you're blue in the face. But sticking people in camps, and trying to force them to accept your fairytale is flat-out wrong. Freedom of religion is for everyone, not just Christians.
I think we need to have Christification camps open up through the country, requiring mandatory attendance for people who chose to believe in false religions. Great! Let's start with you!
This is a real threat we are facing and we need to take it very seriously... Oh, you sure are.
Tell me, tell me where is the love
In a careless creation, when there's no above
There's no justice, just a cause and a cure
And a bounty of suffering, it seems we all endure
And what I'm frightened of, is that they call it god's love...
-"God's Love" by Bad Religion. I hum this song to myself every time I read a fundie post, and it always seems to sum up my feelings towards it.
I think I'm speaking for most of us here when I say I am tired of living in a country where a portion of the population tries to dictate what may go on in my bedroom and what I can do with my body. I was not born into an atheistic family only to have some holier-than-thou jerks try to instill their beliefs on me or my family.
You know, I don't think I've ever actually witnessed an atheist yelling, "NO! YOU MUST BE AN ATHEIST! IT IS THE ONLY PATH! IF YOU BELIEVE OTHERWISE, YE SHALL SURELY DIE A HORRIBLE DEATH!"
Being opinionated asses is what got this whole problem started. There'd still be people that hate us, but not as many. Try being decent for a change, and maybe people will like you and stop trying to destroy your faith.
So, your solution, be more stupid than the terrorist, if not more sinister?, you´re nuts.
"I was not born a christian." The only true statement in this screed (and only true if you end it right there). Everyone is born an atheist since a baby has no belief in god; some of us remain in this state and others reconvert to the natural state of atheism after we grow up and wise up.
BTW, there are Christification camps where rabid fundies use fear and intimidation to twist young minds in order to raise a generation of "soldiers for the lord." There's even a documentary about it, just released in theatres - "Jesus Camp."
"I think im speaking for most of us here when I say I am tired of living in a country that promotes sin and a satanic lifestyle."
There are many countries that opppose sin and a satanic lifestyle. Iran is one. Saudi Arabia is another.
"I was not born a christian only to have some godless person try to instill their beliefs on me or my family."
Actually you were not born a christian. Everyone is born muslim, but if they have the misfortune to be born into an infidel family thy convert to a false religion.
Besides, faith is something natural and God-given. You can´t use a camp to indoctrinate. I mean, there are Christian summer camps where children go, but they make ordinary activities of summer camps and, on Sunday, Mass and some exercises NOT AL-QAEDA LIKE ACTIVITIES. In fact, you were not born a Christian, like everybody. And to defeat terror, the only way is to reafirm tolerance and respect for the different, NOT THE OTHER WAY ROUND. After all, paraphrasing Jesus, what´s the merit?, muslims too believe that only their religion is the right one.
If only Bush understands blah blah blah, then doesn't that mean you don't? Obviously neither of you knows what the fuck you're talking about. Kudos for advocating brainwashing, dumbass.
I was not born, period, only to have some fundie instill their beliefs on me or MY family, either.
Papbear, that was one of your best deconstruction rebuttals to date. I agree with every word. Nice work.
This poster is one of the scariest there is: So blindly fanatical that he/she would happily create an oppressive, totalitarian fascist state in the name of a God that would utterly abhor ANY kind of totalitarian fascist state, but especially one established putatively in His name. Contradictory theology, loony psychology, scary politics -- this is just plain frighteningly fundie.
Oh, and I agree that this one will need some kind of an award; I think the best would be a "Goodthinker of the Month Award" for being such a good little fundiebot who wants to have us embrace Big Brother as well.
~David D.G.
How about a "God Is Big Brother" award?
I lived in Trinidad as a child, and it makes me quite ill to see this poster's name. The Trinidadians I remember were all Christian, but not goose-stepping concentration-camp fundies.
Has this fool ever been to Carnival? With all the costumes and the dancing and the rum? They party in the streets like old-fashioned heathens, and everyone has a great time. That's the kind of camp I'd like to see.
Forty years it had taken him to learn what kind of smile was hidden beneath the dark moustache. O cruel, needless misunderstanding! O stubborn, self-willed exile from the loving breast! Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Brother.
"BTW, there are Christification camps where rabid fundies use fear and intimidation to twist young minds in order to raise a generation of 'soldiers for the lord.' There's even a documentary about it, just released in theatres - 'Jesus Camp.'"
You've got to be taught,
To hate and fear.
You've got to be taught,
From year to year.
It's got to be drummed,
In your dear little ear.
You've got to be carefully taught.
You've got to be taught
before it's too late.
Before you are six, or seven, or eight,
To hate all the people your relatives hate.
You've got to be carefully taught.
T&T? Why do you think you need Kristification Kamps for this? You didn't need one to become the twisted, bigoted, hypocrite that you are, did you? I don't even want to know what you would propose to do with the "drop-outs".
Gulags for Jesus Award.
I think speaking for most of us.......that´s the first problem, you can´t asume you do. And children should be taught bla bla bla, it´s what parents do when they send them to Sunday Schools or teach them the Bible and so on. Besides, to defeat the Terror everybody must be on the right side. What side?, to fabricate a lie that is costing lots of human lives?, to promote ignorance and blame others for your own faults?. To be so sectarian as to call Satan anyone who doesn´t happen to think like you?. Besides, the requiring attendance is ridiculous.....the first amendment prevents and you can´t force your beliefs into others.
@"Trinidad & Tobago"
I was not born a christian only to have some godless person try to instill their beliefs on me or my family.
I think we need to have Christification camps open up through the country, requiring mandatory attendance for people who chose to believe in false religions.
Oh the irony or is it hypocrisy? Anyway, give him an award.
I was misquoted! Corrections to my "quote" appear below. kthx.
"I think I'm speaking for most of us here when I say I am tired of living in a world that promotes religion and the belief in sky daddies . I was not born a skeptic only to have some fundie idiot try to instill their beliefs on me or my family. Something needs to change. If we are to win the war on terror then we need to get everyone on the right side. Why dont we see any Atheism camps? Children should be taught the Truth of Atheism at a young age so that they cannot grow up believing in sky daddies ...
I understand why Bush has been divinely inspired by the Lord Jesus Christ, because only he misunderestimates the perils that our country and everyone of the United States face on a daily basis. The inherent threat of the mohammedons must cease, and we must be able to live our lives without fear of being killed in the name of some made-up deity . I think we need to have Atheism camps open up through the country, requiring mandatory attendance for people who chose to believe in any religions. This is a real threat we are facing and we need to take it very seriously..."
Why dont we see any Christification camps? Children should be taught the Truth of Christ at a young age so that they cannot grow up believing in satan...
...Pssst, T&T, go look up Jesus Camp on the Internet.
ha ha, you are a very funny person. you are deffinitly a christian, WORSHIP MY VEIWS OR I WILL KILL YOU, ha ha you are deffinitly hated
When Mohammed was visited by a "angel" they induced into him the act of sodomy being natural and from Allah.
Of course it was not a angel but some of his fellow Arabs who were simply taking advantage of a young boy who was having another epileptic seizure.
But, papa bear enjoys the story since it fills papa bear with a god that accepts anal intercourse from a mythical god. You go papa bear.
Yeah Bush wants to go to heaven by killing millions of people. sending them to war, withholding stemcell researc that coudl save thousands of people...
wait a minuite, he's worse than a suicide bomber!! He'll kill everyone else to get into heaven but save for himself
Poe, right? I don't think you can be educated enough to refer to them thar Islamists as Mohammedians and still miss the glaring hypocrisy of forced religious re-education to counter others supposedly imposing their beliefs on you.
Also, Christification camps? Come on, Poe.
The best way to fight terror is to stop living in it.
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