[Talking about an eleven year old girl who was raped and then buried alive]
god was sacrificing this child as a way to show others the light. much as he did his own child. what a beautiful gift he has given us.
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"Beautiful" and rape/abuse -do not mix-. Leave my dimension at once, and waste not my time.
So true it had to be said times two (by accident, but I'm not complaining.)
What a marvelous gift, a little child, defiled, raped, and murdered by being buried alive.
Howie, you are a despicable person.
Moron.
You...bastard.
Do you know how long it takes to even pass out from oxygen deprivation? An average of five minutes. And you still have some oxygen, depending on how you were buried.
So it could have possibly taken this girl hours to die. Alone. In the dark. Slowly suffocating. In a tight little space. Surrounded by dirt.
And then the fact that she was raped beforehand?
You know what, Howie, why don't YOU get raped and buried alive, then preach to me, you jackass!
And what "light" were we shown here? That the most horrible things could happen and there'd be no all-powerful divinity stepping in to stop them, besides the fact that he could and preaches that he should?
No. Just no. If this is the light of the world, then I'm Barney the Fucking Dinosaur.
I second the die in a fire comments. The "more painful methods" comments, I appreciate the enthusiasm, but they're best for the person who DID it.
Wow, gee, you're right Howie. The sexual brutalization, torture and murder of this poor child REALLY makes me believe in god's glory. *rolls eyes*
I hate you, Howie, seriously.
@Seamus D: it doesn't matter if it's a Poe or not. If it is, he's as big an assclown as the Torture Him/Her jackass anyway.
He deserves every bit of the scorn heaped on him.
This is the first thing I've read here that's made me physically ill.
As a former eight year old whose rapist attempted to kill her, I hope you go to the same special corner of hell as the murderer of this little girl.
I heartily agree with the gist of the comments above, that is, the most compassionate fate this sick fuck deserves is a slow, painful, agonizing death. And afterwards...
Look not into Howie's soul, Lucifer: there be MONSTERS!
... *puke*
Rape Apologist of the Month award seconded.
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Imagine an eternity in heaven with Howie R. and his peers.
Now , imagine the lake of fire and all the other stuff.
Which place would a rational and moral person prefer to spend eternity?
@Tempus: I agree, this should have a 5, and I rated it a 5, but if we could go up to 12, it would probably be at 11 and we'd be wondering why it wasn't at 12.
there is another post on a thread about evolution where it is described as "heartless suffering for “improvement”".
Such hypocracy. Such cruelty. Although it must be the only way fundies can explain the evil that happens in life under their omnipotent god.
I think this is possibly the most reprehensible piece of fundie bullshit I've seen in a very, very long time.
And judging from how quickly this has gotten to three pages, I believe we're all in agreement.
Thank you for taking the smily-face mask off of your faith. You still deserve to experience the same "beautiful gift," though.
But remember, folks: It's atheists who have no regard for human life.
Fucking sick bastard. What kind of mental derangement allows you to post such things without becoming ill? What sort of inhumane monster could believe that the rape and live burial of anyone, especially a child, could be anything short of a monstrous act of evil?
Fuck you.
Humiliation, assault, and a brutal death are beautiful? To whom? Certainly not to the victim.
Howie, get fucked by a flaming cluebat.
*dies a little bit*
Poe or not, this is sick. How anyone could write this, whether or not they believe it, is beyond me.
They've all been asked before, don't you realize that?
I would imagine that when that girl got to heaven, God wiped away her tears and let her right in. I would also imagine that He was right there comforting her family, if they asked Him to be.
There are horrible things that happen in the world, that can't be denied. But do we know how many 11 year olds are SAVED from that fate by God? No, we don't.
This was posted by someone else on Yahoo Answers-just as sick.
<Note to self>
I am speechless. And I feel an anger only described as "unnatural".
A Prayer for Howie R.
May you die a slow death from metastized testicular cancer. May your funeral be as empty as your heart. May your relatives forget you. May your children be more humane than you.
Ave atque vale. (Hail and farewell.)
One time I was drug into a white windowless van by four men, tied up, beaten, and raped.
They tortured me for kicks in ways that are too extreme to really go into details.
Then stabbed me and rolled me in a ditch. I spent almost a full day laying there bleeding, slipping in and out of consciousness, and sobbing when I was awake. I was found, I lived though had an infection that almost killed me.
Pessimistic response was that no God existed.
Optimistic response was that he did and it was he who helped me live through the experience.
Insane response is that that was in any way a beautiful gift.
I wish horrible unspeakable things on this person.
Sweeney Todd was right.
I have officially lost my appetite
Seiously, how can anyone will this fate onto another? this is sick, and this guy deserves the slowest most painul death possible, preferably while keeping him from reproducing
To be honest, I think this quote, along with some others on this site, are sarcastic and are making fun of the fundie way of thinking. I can't really see someone saying this quote in a serious context.
Horrid. I feel like... <Abundant puking; think Shrek's baby>... Hmm... OK... Feel slightly better now... No... Wait... <a few more spurts>...
This insult to everything that is of any good in this dimension and all others cannot possibly have been written by a human being.
It can only come from a non human entity; it's missing too many parts that pretty much come standard with any H. Sapiens model.
Call it Fundiebot, Babbledroid or iWitness, but not Howie (too human).
This is not only sick but scary! If people think like this, who's to say they wont do it to set an example, this guy should definitely not be given free access to the internet or in fact anything that's sharper than a stick of gum
I like ducks. I think they're funny. It would be fun to see a duck hop like a bunrab but unfortunately they do not. Still, I wish they did. Then the world would be a better place, or at least a funnier place. As baby Jeebus once said, "Go hang a salami - I'm a lasagna hog!"
I suspect Howie R may not be consciously evil; but rather so emotionally and intellectually stunted as to be unable to cope with the notion that something this ghastly could happen without a good reason. Similar to the "just world" fallacy, it might be a childish attempt to counteract unpleasantness by building up a fantasy to obscure or rationalise it - desperately trying to put the rose tinted glasses back on after reality cruelly tore them away. Such effects probably bear a large part of the responsibility for mankind's general strong tendency to create myths and religions all over the place.
Alternatively, of course, he really could be simply demented.
WRONG!!! God is not a cruel perverted bastard.
This man and the man who raped and killed the girl however are.
God had nothing to do with this tragedy. . .leave Him out of it.
"much as he did his own child"
Uhh, I think you'll find that Jesus wasn't raped or burried alive. He also wasn't an eleven year old girl.
Sins like these happen because God has given mankind free will. They are not "beautiful gifts" you sick freak.
First: I was sexually abused as a five year old, and let me assure you, it was in no way a 'beautiful gift'.
Second: Jesus chose to die, and was given the 'get out of jail free' card of resurrection. So it in no way resembles the fate of this poor girl.
Third: Even if Howie R is a troll or poe, this kind of post can trigger all sorts of painful emotions and memories for victims of abuse. Is the point you're trying to make worth it?
God had nothing to do with this tragedy. . .leave Him out of it.
If he existed, it would have been nice if he'd intervened. According to standard dogma, he certainly would have known about it and been perfectly capable of stopping or undoing it.
How could you even say that you sick fuck? Your fucking jesus knew what he was dying for, unlike the thousands of people who were tortured and crucified before him by the romans!
This poor girl didnt have any choice or saying in what was done to her! Could you even imagine it being done to you?! What fucking light?! Do you think anyone in there right mind would follow "the light" after this?! You just use your religion as an excuse to justify what happened to this girl because you cant accept the fact that evil is in mans nature as is good, there is no god or light waiting for any of us and no damnation you silly fuck! GIFT?! Ill show you a gift you fuck! Id take any sentance in your so called hell if i could get 5 min alone with you! fuck you
brutal rape and murder of extreme minors FTW!!
you, howie, and a living example of all that is wrong with this world.
Urgh, disgusting.
Why does god need a sacrifice?
And then you wonder why people don't like your religion?
I'll go with Satan, he's not a sadistic, blood-thirsty lunatic.
If this is how your deity gives us gifts and beauty how can there possibly be a devil?
Howie is a dumb ass. Why don't you tell that poor girl's family that she was god's sacrifice--what a beautiful gift. What beauty are we shown here? If anything, Satan must not be all that bad 'cause God likes his sacrifices to be children, raped, and then killed slowly.
Howie, this girl was, ya know, and burried alive and your saying God has given us a wonderful gift and shown us "the light"? FAIL!!! *unleashes a giant robot on howies house* NO MORE FROM YOUR TWISTED MOUTH!
I'm not a rather violent person, but something I DO NOT condone is rapists, pedophiles, and people who tortures and/or kill children or good people just for the sake of it, and people who do condone them and even celebrate their actions, makes me sick as well. We'd be sooo much better off without them in this world. Sad, sad world we're living in.
Yeah, tell this to all my friends who are still crying over their daughter and soon to be grand-daughter that they found buried in a field. What's the need to do it again and again everyday? That just doesn't seem necessary. You're optimism kills me. I think you have lived a very sheltered life and some might call that lucky.
hmm so god had someone rape and kill an 11 year old girl to prove that god loves us????what kind of crap is that?
What a beautiful gift? Maybe for you, but what about the girl that was tortured?
You dont understand crap...
How beautiful indeed.
You sick bastard.
I sincerely hope that one day, this person gets raped in the ass or better, any other hole that is more painful (use your imagination here)!
This person is a disgrace to humanity!
You can't use your God as a scapegoat for the corruption of man. Rape and beautiful do not belong in the same sentance, unless the sentance goes like this:
Yes, and I'm sure it would be even MORE beautiful if God did it to you, your children, and your family. Just glorious. I'm sure God would thank you.
You should be boiled in vinegar, have your skin rubbed raw with sandpaper, be rolled in salt, get shot out of a cannon into a room full of tiny needles, and have your face dipped into molten boron. even that death isn't excruciating enough. you should be buried alive, like that little girl, who you say was a GIFT. well, you aren't much of a gift.
...part of my being just died...
The heating is on, I'm wearing a jacket, the sun is shining in on me, yet my blood still ran cold when I read this...
If this is god's gift, count me out you sick, sick fuck
if its a poe: lol
if it isnt: lol
THAT is THE most disgusting thing i have ever heard in my life, and im only 18.
For someone to say that, quite frankly means that they have NO heart at all and NO consideration for other human beings. As some have stated, i would love to know what this guy would think if it were to happen to a duaghter of his, but saying that, why would he have a daughter with the way he treats other humans.
If there is an award for Disgusting Post of the Century, this guy wins hands down.
wow. almost 6 months ago and comments still coming in.
Whats interesting about this phenomenon is that as sick and twisted a logic as it is, Howie has done no more than any other Christian apologist who spoke of free will, or provided any excuse for their mythical god's innaction in response to extreme evil.
What Howie has done is simply take a horrendous act of a psychotic killer, and embued it with religious significance. Falwell did it with Katrina, declaring it God's wrath for New orleans' evil ways. Pat Robertson did it with the 3,000 innocent deaths of 9/11, attributing it to gods retribution for America's tolerance of homsexuality. They both did it,as did Muslim Imams, when the 2004 tsunami killed thousands in se Asia.
If in their superstitious mind their god will kill thousands by permitting, even causing, terrorist attacks, hurricanes, earthquakes... why the surprise at one more hyper-religious sociopath putting god's hand into the rape and murder of one child?
To the religiously infected these "leaps of faith" and absence of reason, logic, and sanity are necessary to justify their belief. Without this kind of twisted illogic and self delusion they would be forced to see how patently absurd their supernaturalism is. http://atheistcamel.blogspot.com/
I could go on for pages and pages, but words just don't do it justice...
In other words:
IT'S RAPING MY EYES!!! AGHHH!!!
you are one sick motherfucker, go die in the fire you son of a bitch.
This is disgusting, I know, but saying this is not this man(?)'s fault. He has been slowly brainwashed from the moment he left the womb. just try to be nice to him, that will take him alot farther than insults and threats.
Firstly, what is poe? I realize that's probably a stupid question. Secondly, I feel this person should probably not be allowed leave his very small, very bare cell.
@#698864
a Poe is a poster whose posting is indistinguishable from t a fundie but is actually taking the piss, or trolling.
If this is a Poe it's truly in the nastiest taste possible.
Wow, and fundies wonder why they're hated so much.
Die a slow, painful, agonising death you sick fuck!
Gee, Howie -- maybe you should be sodomized with a cactus, then have a coke bottle filled with diet Coke and Mentos shoved into your rectum, and then buried alive yourself so you can experience this "beautiful gift" for yourself.
If God's such a great and loving guy, why does He make his presence felt through hateful acts and barbarism? I was considering being a smartass about this but I just want to say that you are one sick fucker if you claim that god expressed his love for the human race by causing a girl to be raped and murdered, but you probably believe that a woman's life and body are wholy subject to a man's will. (No really; I've been around the *REAL* hyper-jesus-freak types and some do not even believe that rape is wrong.)
I actually laughed at the stupidity of this quote. Who could say that, and be totally serious? This while a very offensive quote is also an amazing argument, to use against the very type of person who would agree with it.
This is possibly the most disgusting quote I've seen on FSTDT.
Oh, by the way: tl;dr spammer is tl;dr.
Psycho. My jaw dropped. And not in a "you're stupid" way like I usually do, but in a "go die in a fire" way.
And I agree, this spammer is getting on my nerves.
Isn't it wonderful how they can take a horrendous event and put that ray of light onto it
Wait a sec,,,ewww, that's completely fuck-up thinking
I'm just speechless. This is why I hate evangelical/conservative Christians (saying this because I know some Liberal christians and Catholics who are actually human beings).
i cannot understand how a person thinks this. i understand their line of thought, but honestly. HE HAD SEXUAL LUST FOR A 11-YEAR-OLD GIRL!!!!!! THEN, TO TOP IT OFF, HE BURIED HER ALIVE! THATS THE SATANIC BASTARD OF THE FUCKING MONTH PPL!!!!!!!
ok, ppl, HONESTLY! wat if that was really an insane person? wat if they were TRUELLY AND HONESTLY INCAPABLE OF RATIONAL THOUGHT!? i say, he be thrown in a institution equipped to handle a sick man like him. BUT THE FATES WISHED UPON HIM BY MOST OF YOU ARE NO BETTER THAN HIMSLEF!
Only a coward would hide and sacrifice others to prove a point, instead of appearing before the people you claim he loves so much and showing them the light himself.
God didn't kill Jesus, we did. Jesus was not a sacrifice, but a test and Men failed. He is just called a sacrifice to cover your ass up when it was really about power. Jesus was getting too many followers so he had to be silenced.
Sick,sick,sick.I can't even read this without being completly repulsed by it.I can hardly believe a person would even have the audacity to write such a terrible thing and praise it.If this is God's way of showing others the light then I'll more than gladly go to Hell.
Still can't believe this isn't a POE... Really makes you wonder why people choose not to believe in god.
This brainwashing has to stop, no man, for ANY reason should think the rape and murder of a child is a "beautiful gift".
As sick as this comment is -- deeply, deeply sick and twisted and disturbed, to the point "Howie" ought to be tracked down by federal authorities so they can check and see if "Howie" has decided to make "beautiful gifts" of any of the children in his family or neighborhood -- it's no longer that shocking to me.
Remember, we have mainstream, relatively rational (relatively...) "Christians" who claim God wills babies to be brought into this world via the violent rape of innocent women.
We have the Catholic Church holding up as an example to all a woman who declared the pain and suffering of others is "beautiful" and a sign that God loves them.
This is really just a very, very creepy way of saying the same thing.
It's easy to point to this guy and call him a disturbed individual, but it's the others, the ones who slide under the radar with the same sentiments more insidiously expressed, we really have to worry about.
I've been on FSTDT for a couple years now. I've seen some pretty disgusting shit on here. But this beats them all.
I usually think poes are funny, but even if this is poe, this person is fucking dirt.
You are fucking sick, your god is even sicker, and I've never been happier to be an atheist than when I read your post.
Now give us a beautiful gift and fuck off.
Show others the light? Show others the light? If I did believe in your god, I would hate him for allowing such horrible things to happen to innocent little children, and any monster who would worship such a disgusting deity, real or imaginary (and yours is imaginary) is more vile than any words on the planet can describe. Dying in a fire would be too good for you.
You know what? Fuck you, fuck your god (because he is most certainly VERY VERY sick-minded), fuck the rapist, and fuck the horses that you all came in on (and in after you fucked them)
Poe or not, a slow 'massage' with twelve pound sledges, starting with the feet, moving slowly upwards strike by strike and ending when the noise stops would be too good for this one.
this really, and I mean really , really pisses me off.
God stoping the rape, setting the rapist on fire, and maybe blowing the building to bits with no collateral damage would be worthyof a God.
What sort of Gift is a dead raped girl, somewhat dirty and partially decomposed ?
The first time I read this quote, I felt so ill that all I could manage to say was "omfg." I also apparently blocked the quote out of my mind; before I stumbled upon it this time around, I forgot about ever reading it. I still feel physically ill after reading it now.
Poe or not, I hope someone makes a "beautiful gift" out of you, you sick monster.
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