[In response to "So what is the belief system that suits moral atheist agenda?"]
Simple, as atheist's selfish agenda is to hate God and deny his revealed truth, no atheist can be moral. Nobody "doesn't belive in god" they know he is real, they just deny him, which is evil and therefore immoral.
You cannot be moral without God, therefore you cannot be a moral atheist nor a moral atheist agenda
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To illustrate that your assertion is true and correct, you have to describe how human morality is defined by and derived from your god's existence.
First, prove that your god exists. Second, define morality.
Do this and I'll start to listen.
When will they get it through their poiny, little heads that atheist don't HATE God we just understand that God is a fictional character?
To say that nobody doesn't believe in God is as arrogant and stupid as saying all Christians don't really believe in God. I think Christians are wrong, but I'm sure many of them do actually believe in God.
Statistic show that atheists are much less often convicted of crimes than are religious persons. That must say something about comparative morality. I have high ethical standards, higher than many professing Christian beliefs.
I am not selfish nor do we atheists have an agenda.
You are an ignorant & uneducated creature who glories in your own stupidity.
Read Senaca, Cicero, Socrates, Plato (in translation if you must) and see where ethics and morality (greek and latin) words originates, in the West, from. Similar applies to the great Eastern philosophers, sadly which I am not as knowledgeable of yet.
"Anonymous Coward"
figures
werewolf is correct. morality is a concept that requires a modifier, because morality is an arbitrary set of rules derived from the value system of God, society, individual, whatever... Ergo, context needed.
And while context seems to be "knows of the existence of fundie God and accepts His Word literally = moral; else immoral" then yes, I must agree, all atheists are immoral scum. Nice folks, though.
I am agnostic. I behave in a moral way because I have a conscience. Your god is not needed for me. Clearly, you need the threat of punishment to achieve such behavior. I propose to you that I am more moral. Your rebuttal, Anonymous Coward?
Simple, as adontonapeatist's selfish agenda is to hate the Tooth Fairy and deny her revealed tooth truth, no adontonapeatist* can be moral. Nobody "doesn't believe in the Tooth Fairy". They know she is real; they just deny her, which is evil and therefore immoral.
You cannot be moral without the Tooth Fairy; therefore, you cannot be a moral adontonapeatist nor a moral adontonapeatist agenda
* newly-coined word, from a + donto (tooth) + napaeae (shy Greek nymphs found in glens and wooded valleys) + tist.
The implicit challenge, in my view, is to demonstrate a moral superiority to god. That isn't difficult, as he is like one of those disturbed brats who maim and torture small creatures.
Woe to those who actually need an imaginary bogeyman, especially that stupid one that seems so popular, to enforce their version of morality. OTOH, the people who are morally "successful" can do the right things without guilt-tripping themselves or needing to beg guidance from their "Massa".
The name screams "POE"
Don't read comments on slashdot a lot, huh? It's the label applied automatically to anyone who posts anonymously instead of entering a name, so it's not something the user entered.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anonymous_Coward
Well, if Anonymous is going to see me as evil atheist scum no matter how I act, I may as well indulge in a killing spree. Though really it would be his fault, since he was the one who pointed out that nothing I could ever do would count as moral, so he should take some of the blame.
Oh wait, damn. I forgot about 'taking responsibility for one's own actions'. I knew there was something that seperated my morality from Anon's.
Yes, I love hating a non-existent, made-up, imaginary character. It's fun, whee!
I don't hate your god, so stop with the vitriol. Now, Chemosh, the ancient desert storm god, now HE was a real fucker. HE I hate...
as atheist's selfish agenda is to hate God and deny his revealed truth
Check your dictionary, butthead. Atheists don't hate something they don't believe in. Yeesh.
Wrong, atheists are more moral than fundies because they behave out of respect fo their fellow humans. Fundies are pit-bulls on a short leash, held from running amok only by fear of eternal punishment.
If disbelieving in something means you secretly believe in it but you hate it, that must mean I hate Superman.
I'd better get me some Kryptonite, fast....
You cannot be moral without God, therefore you cannot be a moral atheist nor a moral atheist agenda
And for everyone above, Anonymous Asshole is the name that site gives to anyone who logs on anonymously.
And yet Christians are so moral they can actually write stuff like this with a straight face:
http://fstdt.com/fundies/comments.aspx?q=35543 "Whether or not rape is a sin depends on how it was done, if it was done in accordance to God's will in order to punish sinners then it is ok. If it is for some other reason then it is not."
Truely some of the most immoral people to exist have claimed Jesus as their savior.
"Whether or not rape is a sin depends on how it was done, if it was done in accordance to God's will in order to punish sinners then it is ok. If it is for some other reason then it is not."
No, go fuck yourself!
Edit: Damen, you quote whore!
Not all good people have Jesus
My parents are atheists. they are better people than I am
"therefore you cannot be a moral atheist nor a moral atheist agenda"
Aww, and I wanted to be an agenda.
Don't read comments on slashdot a lot, huh?
Why would anyone want to read comments on slashdot (or somethingawful or fark or 4chan)? There exists no redeeming good in those places; they are filled only with the bile and alienation of a billion internet dickwads.
Frankly, the religiously insane are more worth my time - they are mostly merely misinformed, and they do have some redeeming value as human beings.
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