ReformedApologian #fundie

ReformedApologian #fundie youtube.com

No, you were a fake who thought you believed, so why be offended? You say you don't believe the Bible, so why would you care to defend the idea that you were a real believer? Don't kid yourself; you never repented or had a sense of your own spiritual poverty and need of Christ. And you're just as self-deceived now as an atheist as you were as a false convert playing the church game.

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old comment by ReformedApologian

Pyroclasm: what kind of fundy internet atheists are you guys that you don’t know about Tektonics.org? MY site? Hardly. It’s the website of J.P. Holding, the famed internet apologist. You guys need to brush up on your atheist skills. About 1 minute of research would have shown that it’s obviously not my site. But hey, I know atheists aren’t too big on research, so what can I expect?

SeenAndNotSeen: where ever did you get that absurd idea? As I just addressed on my comment to you at http://www.fstdt.com/fundies/comments.aspx?q=41237 I am entirely genuine in my desire to see you come to saving faith in Christ. Like me before I became a Calvinist, you seem to have a fundamentally-flawed view of what it even is. If you care enough to find out, I suggest you read this article for a good explanation, written by respected theologian Dr. John Piper:
http://www.desiringGod.org/resourcelibrary/Articles/ByDate/1995/1580_Are_There_Two_Wills_in_God/
So though you’d like to brush me off as being disingenuous, no, I truly do want to see you saved, but ultimately that’s God’s decision and only those He chooses to save will be saved. You need to be awakened the beauty of the sovereignty of God.

old comment by Dylan

ReformedApologian, you have no intent of conversion that can't be explained by a self righteous, haughty, pseudo-intellectual, narcissistic urge that most likely stems from a superiority complex.

*Yes, I am e-diagnosing you*

You have no Christlike qualities. You only vision yourself as a haven of knowledge and logic, and thus place yourself above any individual who doesn't agree with you.

*Yes, I know some atheists can be of the exact same caliber, I am one myself. But you are being a complete hypocrite in taking upon yourself these disgusting qualities.*

Your egotistical demeanor only puts people off, strokes your self-esteem, and essentially enforces the holier-than thou attitude that religion is so capable of giving a person. Conversion for you is rather an accomplishment, and only an accomplishment. You have no good intent, just a thirst to be correct. Your job is to convert people. At least try to do it politely and correctly.

old comment by ReformedApologian

GigaGuess, the most loving thing I can do for a lost person is tell them the truth. Genuine love cares about people; misleading them into Hell is the epitome of hate, not love.

Dylan, besides the fact that what you're likely doing with this shotgun approach to psychoanalysis is the very thing you condemn me of therein, all I can say is, God help me if my pride ever swells up within myself (and at times, it does; I am a sinful man). As the old hymn writer Isaac Watts put it:

When I survey the wondrous cross on which the Prince of Glory died; my richest gain I count but loss, and pour contempt on all my pride.

Forbid it, Lord, that I should boast, save in the death of Christ, my God; all the vain things that charm me most, I sacrifice them to his blood.

See, from his head, his hands, his feet, sorrow and love flow mingled down. Did e'er such love and sorrow meet, or thorns compose so rich a crown.

Were the whole realm of nature mine, that were an offering far too small; love so amazing, so divine, demands my soul, my life, my all.

http://www.hymnsite.com/lyrics/umh298.sht

old comment by GigaGuess

GigaGuess, the most loving thing I can do for a lost person is tell them the truth. Genuine love cares about people; misleading them into Hell is the epitome of hate, not love.
Which would be great, if there was anything there that resembled love, or compassion in what you said, as opposed to pompous self-righteousness. A person's faith is shaken? Try and help them resolve their crisis of faith? Nah, just shut them out from the fold, let them know that they were never REALLY part of the club, and go along, humming Amazing Grace to yourself. You accuse him of not having any real faith, but all I see in yours is a smug sense of superiority.

ReformedApologian #fundie youtube.com

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