[RE:Poster who has had an abortion states that she does not feel truamatized or regret her deciosin.]
Denying a Guilt is a Greater Guilt.
No one can make you feel shame, remorse, or "I am sorry" for killing your own kid, all right? Either you do or you don't. You are your soul, your aura, your Karma. Most defend that which corrupts or corrupted them. (Kinda like the lesbian that slants "male" behavior after being sexually abused by a male).
So, YOU don't have an ounce of conscience about snuffing your child's life, BUT I am hear to tell you: YOUR CHILD IS LOVED BY ME AND MILLIONS OF OTHERS MORE THAN YOU COULD EVER UNDERSTAND, ACCEPT, OR EXPERIENCE IN A LIFETIME. In spite of your cold stone non-humanitarianism, your baby is loved.
Take that to your fluffy pillow tonight. I will even name your baby for you right now, all right? It's name is Dana. All those that love Dana in spite of it's mother's estrangement, give a xxo.
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Every time you touch a surface with your hands, you leave about 30 skin cells on that surface. About the same as an early fetus.
I wonder, Anonymous, do you name each cell when you touch something, or the chunk as a whole? Either way, I'm impressed with your imagination. That's a lot of names you have to come up with.
No one believes you love anything but yourself, anonymous. Nice try though. In the afterlife, God will (1) freeze the video on you condoning, for instance, Bush's wars, and (2) rip your damn tongue out. What mindless hypocrites these people are.
You presume to have a deeper emotional investment in the life of a foetus than its mother? You choose to immediately presume she has no interest in its well-being?
In a perverse way, this is one of the sickest things I've ever seen on this site. Get shot.
"BUT I am hear to tell you: YOUR CHILD IS LOVED BY ME AND MILLIONS OF OTHERS MORE THAN YOU COULD EVER UNDERSTAND, ACCEPT, OR EXPERIENCE IN A LIFETIME"
I doubt you are among them. And the mother would have more love for hers than you ever could. You naming it only adds to the mother's pain. Sick fuck
/YOUR CHILD IS LOVED BY ME AND MILLIONS OF OTHERS MORE THAN YOU COULD EVER UNDERSTAND, ACCEPT, OR EXPERIENCE IN A LIFETIME./
So if she did have the baby, you'd help her raise it and pay the food and medical bills? No? Thought not.
Lesbianism doesn't work that way!!!!
I've never aborted, but I have miscarried. If someone said something like that to me, coming up with a name for my lost baby, they would *not* like how the conversation ends, I can guarantee it!
More pro-birther, anti-freedom nonsense.
I suggest you go find a large fire, and slowly die in it.
She never had a child. A clump of cells is not a child. And if she had brought it to term, and given birth to an actual child, you'd have been happy (and voting) to see it starve to death by denying her no-good sinner of a mother welfare.
However, any baby that grows up to hold religious beliefs different from this hairball's -- or, heaven forfend, no religious beliefs ... she'll condemn and castigate.
More meaningless forced-birther ranting.
Anonymous has got his/her work cut out for her loving all those non-existant babies.
I echo the DIAF sentiment wholeheartedly!
You wanna name my fetus? I don't love it, not yet. Women don't have some magical connection to their unborn the second they find out they are pregnant. It's a sweet myth, sure. But a lot us just don't feel anything regarding our fetuses until they are born. Hell, one woman I talked to hated her child for the first three months of it's life. Pretty sure that woman doesn't feel guilty about disposing a clump of cells she didn't love.
I want to edit this to say that I don't mean to offend those who have miscarried or aborted and felt sorrow after. I only mean to point out that not every woman feels the same about pregnancy.
"YOUR CHILD IS LOVED BY ME AND MILLIONS OF OTHERS MORE THAN YOU COULD EVER UNDERSTAND, ACCEPT, OR EXPERIENCE IN A LIFETIME."
... UNTIL IT'S ACTUALLY BORN, AT WHICH POINT IT BECOMES A MISERABLE ROTTEN SINNER DESERVING OF HELL. AND, WORSE, SINCE IT'S JUST BEEN BORN TO A DEMOCRAT LIBERAL LESBIAN HIPPIE LIKE YOU, THAT MAKES IT A DEMOCRAT TOO, AND I SUPPORT "POST-BIRTH ABORTIONS" FOR ALL DEMOCRATS AND HATE THEM WITH A FLAMING PASSION.
PLUS, MY CAPS LOCK KEY IS STUCK. DOES ANYBODY KNOW HOW TO UN-STICK THIS THING? I TRIED WD-40, BUT IT JUST GUMMED UP THE OTHER KEYS NEXT TO MY CAPS LOCK KEY AND I THINK I MADE IT WORSE.
You love a mucousy little clump of cells smaller than your little fingernail, and you want to take it to bed with you to sleep on your fluffy pillow? Really? Cuz I've got bronchitis and I could hack up something for you that would probably give you like, multiple head-asplodey orgasms for all of eternity.
@Natalie,
As an infertile woman, I really appreciate hearing that. Those of us who can't have children are really marginalized by all this sappy-sweet Madonna and Child mythology that permeates our society. And I am quite sure there are many moms who didn't get the instant in-love-with-mah-fetus feeling who are relieved to hear someone else say it too.
I often wonder what happens to fundies who are irrevocably infertile like me. Their lives must be living hells because of bullshit like this.
Oh, wipe that smug self-righteousness off your face, you piece of shit. You don't give any more of a shit about "Dana" than the rest of us do. People like you enjoy playing morality police because it makes you feel like you're better than everyone else. The only things you love are attention and sanctimony. You certainly don't love a human embryo that lacked any real central nervous system, meaning that it lacked the awareness needed to consider it any kind of 'being'. A first trimester fetus has less of a consciousness than a housefly, yet I don't see you running around, bitching about and naming the numerous insects that are killed with fly swatters.
Climb off your moral high-horse, lady. You're not fooling anyone.
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@#928791: I'm sorry to hear about what you're going through.
Regardless of how one feels about abortion, I'm pretty sure that claiming to have a greater attachment to a foetus than its mother, naming somebody else's aborted foetus and attempting to guilt somebody into a pro-life stance are rather base things to do. It almost seems fake, except I googled it and it passed.
I had a skin growth removed recently-you want to name that too? Edward sounds like a nice name for it. How about all the tonsils and appendixes removed over the years. Those were alive-why not condemn people for removing those? How about tapeworms-don't they have a right to life? What about all the other parasites feeding off your body? You want to name and love those too?
A friend of mine caved to the no-lifers despite her grave health problems, and having the baby killed her. Oh and the baby died too. Let me guess-it was "god's will".
YOUR CHILD IS LOVED BY ME AND MILLIONS OF OTHERS MORE THAN YOU COULD EVER UNDERSTAND, ACCEPT, OR EXPERIENCE IN A LIFETIME.
So lets assume I were too poor to raise a child and had to work all day just to get enough money to survive myself.
And lets assume I would be persuaded by your words, not to abort my fetus but give it away after birth.
Would you then immediately adopt it, to prevent that it has to be given to an orphanage?
Considering the fact that you say that you love my (hypothetical) kid more than anyone could guess, you should do so.
Nad, as you don´t address anyone specifically with this sentence, why then, are there still childrens who are raised in orphanages?
As being raised in an orphanage is far worse than bein graised in a loving home, everyone who loves these children more than anyone can imagine, would do everything possible, to adopt as many children as s/he can afford.
And if there are millions of people who love these children to such an extent, one should imagine that there are enough parents to keep all childen out of orphanages
This has to be one of the ugliest things I have seen on these boards in a long time. Repulsive, truely, truely repulsive. If 'torture' could ever be deemed ethical under any circumstances at all, such a mindset could easily make it to the top 3 candidates in my book. I sincerely pray to FSM to give you a carcinogenic rectal growth so that the rest of us can name it for you, or perhaps you'd like to call that Dana you piece of human genetic waste.
So now it's a sin to be in denial?
Even when your "denial of guilt" is, you know, freakin' honest ?!
Fuck you, OP. You don't even have the balls to leave a name. If she wants an abortion, she should have the right to one. Who knows what the child would have been like? Maybe we won't. Regardless, for whatever reason, this woman thought her baby would be better off never being born than being raised in her household, or taking a chance in the foster care system. Learn to live with it, asshole.
Fuck it, that last line made me sick as hell.
Denying guilt is only a greater guilt when it's felt so by the person.
What if she does feel shame and guilt, what then? Maybe you should shut your trap, and stop assuming things.
...I quite like fluffy pillows, so please don't diss them. Estrangement is too harsh a word, consider the cicumstances and then come back...we'll talk then.
@ Natalie
I agree with your comment about the whole mother and child bond thing. I've had three children, and only really felt that kind of bond early on with my first, but still gave him up for adoption because I knew I wasn't ready for a child. With my second, I kind of sort of bonded with her in the womb, but not much, and honestly have had a hard time bonding with her after because my asshole ex insisted she was "daddy's girl" and spent the first two years of her life pushing me away from her. With my third, I actually forgot I was pregnant regularly througout the pregnancy, and had no bond with her whatsoever until she was born, although I'll admit I had the stereotypical instabond when they handed her to me.
Point is, not only is every woman's bond with her pregnancy different, but every woman's bond with EACH pregnancy is strikingly different as well.
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