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Anonymous #fundie

9+ Foot Long Dinosaur Crocodile-Headed Fish, “Tiktaalik”

Recently, evolutionists have declared a 9+ foot long dinosaur fish to be their ancestor. News stories read “Missing Link Fossil Discovered.” This is all because, as the evolutionists claim, the dino-fish had fins with internal skeletal bones.

Wow! A 9-foot fish with bones in its fins! If that isn’t your forefather, I don’t know what is. It also had scales, jaws that were at least a foot long, a tail, and gills... not lungs. But because the fish had fin bones, evolutionists say it could walk across land. Confused? Never fear, “scientists” are on the case. They plan to attempt to find more of these ancestor fish, as well as “try to determine why this fish found it useful to leave the water.” (quoted from Bloomberg)

So the fish found it useful to leave the water... that’s how they grow legs. Take notes, because this could be on a test in a public school (Thank you, ACLU).

Rayburne F. Winsor #fundie

On the basis of the accumulated evidence (I.e. scientific, extra-biblical/secular, biblical, etc.) the Genesis Flood of the Bible is surely one of the best confirmed events in history. Expressions emphasizing the universality of the Noah’s Flood and its effects occur more than 30 times in Genesis 6 through 9 (I.e. Genesis 7:21-23; Genesis 6:17; 7: 19-20, 22; etc.). There are almost 200 non-biblical historical accounts of a gigantic flood that nearly destroyed all humanity from tribes and nations all over the world. The most detailed accounts come, as we would expect, from countries nearest to Ararat, where the Ark landed (Genesis 8:4). Other versions turn up in Persia (modern Iraq and Iran), India, Burma, Indonesia, Sarawak, New Guina, Tahiti, Hawaii, China, Japan, Siberia, Australia (among the original inhabitants-the aborigines), and New Zealand (Maoris) , Alaska (Eskimos), North America (Red Indian), South America, Egypt, Sudan, Nigeria, Congo, South Africa, Greece, Iceland, Lithuania, Finland, Lapland, Wales and Ireland. This agrees with Genesis 9:19: “From these [three sons of Noah and their wives] the whole earth was populated.”

Of course, now the Bible has come to all these countries, but the flood “legends” (I.e. The Epic of Gilgamesh) were independent of the Bible, passed down over the centuries in scores of tribal legends. Some of the details are especially interesting; for example, Lxtlilxochitl , the native historian of the Aztecs, says that the world lasted 1716 years before it was destroyed by a flood (This figure is only 60 years different from the 1656 years which the Bible gives by addition of the ages in Genesis 5–taking into consideration the overlapping of each subsequent generation by birth. The Chinese character (symbol) for a large ship is a combination of a figure 8 and the symbol for “mouths” or “persons” (Noah + Shem + Japeth +Ham + their wives = 8). The Hottentots of South America believe they are descended from “Noh” and the Hawaiians report a flood from which only “Nu-u” and his family were saved. Very intriguing!

Over 75% of the earth’s surface is overlaid by up to several miles of layer upon layer of sedimentary rocks, which according to scientific consensus are formed under water. These massive sedimentary deposits contain billions of fossils of all life forms, both complete fossils buried in a certain order (I.e. shell fish with shell fish, animals that can climb above those less mobile, etc.) and disconnected skeletons and broken bones , such as would be expected of violent upheavals of the earth’s crust during a global flood (I.e. volcanism, tidal waves, and earthquakes). There are huge fossil graveyards on every major continent–evidence of rapid and mass death, burial, sedimentation and fossilization of life. Animals are commonly found buried in an attitude of terror with heads arched back, , mouths open, etc. (Cumberland Cavern in Maryland, U.S.). the Karroo formation of Africa contains an estimated 800 billion vertebrate fossils animals! (fossils). The Old Red Sandstone in England covers thousands of square miles and contains millions of fossilized fish (estimated more than 1000 per cubic yard) in contorted and contracted positions with spines sticking out and fins spread to the full, as in fish that die violently in convulsions and agony. One of the most famous fossil graveyards is the Geiseltal lignite deposit in Germany where a great mixture of plants (in some instances, leaves till green) , animals, and even insects from all climatic areas of the world are found buried in one common, mass grave–evidence that they were buried deeply and quickly by water-laid sediments to seal them off from the atmosphere and bacteria that cause decay and decomposition.

Add to this the fact that large scale fossilization is not occurring anywhere in the world today and you have a serious problem for uniformitarian geologists who believe these fossils were buried gradually over millions/billions of years. Uniformitarian explanations of slow and gradual deposition/erosion over millions of years fail to offer a reasonable explanation for such important geologic features and formations as the Tibetan Plateau (thousands of feet thick and over three miles above sea level), the incredible lava Columbia Plateau in northwestern United States ( approximately 200,000 square miles) and the flat, featureless Colorado Plateau . They do explain the rise of mountain chains several times faster than erosion; yet, they contain much “ancient” sedimentary rock. Evolutionists allow enough time to erode the continents many times over; yet they are nearly everywhere covered with sediments–evidence that they were shaped by a lot of water over a little time, not a little water over a lot of time. Witness the tremendous geological work done in minutes or hours by local floods (Tsunami that hit India and Sri Lanka, Mount St. Helen’s explosion, hurricane and flooding in Louisiana, US and typhoon in Philippines, etc.). It is ironic that NASA scientists accept that there have been “catastrophic” floods on Mars that carved out canyons although no liquid water is present today. But they deny that a global flood happened on earth, where there is enough water to cover over 71% of the earth’s surface.

This clearly demonstrates how the biases of mainstream evolutionary scientists affect their interpretation of the evidence according to their evolutionary framework/paradigm. I am willing to bet that if a global flood was not clearly taught in the Bible, they would have no problem with the idea of a global flood. God bless.  No evidence for the flood? Obviously we have another Bill Nye here. Did you ever hear of the Mt. St. Helens Explosion that practicallt revelutioned every thing geologists learned in university about uniformitarian geology, especially the rapid work of flooding in canyon making, the rapid and massive deposition of water laid sediments, the transformation of volcanic ash, silica and the bark of tress into the perfect geometry for the formation of peat and coal in days and months, not hundereds of thousands of years? What about mass fossil graves on every major continent of the world containing fossils of animals and fauna from every climatic area of the globe. Or the world’s tallest mountain ranges that contain mile after mile of sedimentary rocks that scientists concede form only under water.

What about the Cambrian explosion and recently the “Avalon Explosion, Mistaken Point, NL? The historic Mistaken Point, Newfoundland has drawn much attention (Queen’s University ) regarding its important fossil assemblage, but could it be that, like the name of the location (“Mistaken Point”), that evolutionary scientists are as mistaken about this “Avalon Explosion” of a variety of new creatures without any evidence of ancestral fossils as they are about the famous Cambrian explosion of a vast variety of fully formed fossils that appear abruptly and suddenly in the Cambrian without any trace of ancestors in the geological layers underneath–hardly evidence for gradual evolution “from the goo, through the zoo, to you” evolution (Thesis of Common Ancestry) that absolutely requires evidence of transitional or intermediate fossils (“missing links”) to be true. As Dr. Jonathan Sarfati (PH.D. in physical chemistry) capably points out in his must-read book Evolution: The Greatest Hoax on Earth: Refuting Dawkins on Evolution, “Surely some of the intermediates (Transitional fossils) leading up to the hard, mineralized animals would have intermediate partial skeletons that could have been fossilized? Indeed, research on Precambrian formations has discovered conditions so favorable for fossilization that many soft-bodied creatures have been found (i.e. Mistaken Point or “Avalon Explosion). Even though many Ediacaran fossils [at Mistaken Point] included soft bodied organisms, none are ancestral to the Cambrian creatures.

So this hardly solves the problem for evolutionists; namely that about which Stephen J. Gould, considered the world’s foremost evolution, said, “The extreme rarity of transitional fossils in the fossil record is the trade secret of paleontology.” Here is what recent scientific research had to say about this “Avalon Explosion: “A comprehensive quantitative analysis of these fossils indicates that the oldest Ediacara assemblage–the Avalon assemblage (575 to 565 Ma)–already encompassed the full range of Ediacara morphospace.” ( Shen, B., Dong, L., Xiao , S. and Kowale wski, M., The Avalon explosion: evolution of Ediacara morphospace, Science 319:81-84, 2008). So this hardly solves the problem for evolution–rather, they have two unrelated explosions or discoveries of new creatures with no evidence of evolutionary ancestry” (the Cambrian Explosion and the “Avalon Explosion). God bless.

Rayburne Winsor #fundie

Rayburne Winsor: First of all, you must distinguish between operational or experimental science, which can be observed, tested and repeated in a laboratory, from historical or Origins science which cannot. Even evolutionists admit hat. Neither biblical creation nor "goo-to-you, molecules to man" evolution can be proven. The Tree of life (GTE or Thesis of Common Ancestry) is just an unproven hypothesis at best. What evolutionists conveniently do is extrapolate "change in gene frequency over time" or "descent with modification" and rapid speciation (which creationists have always believed to be compatible with biblical creation) as evidence for vertical (primitive to complex) change that increases the genetic information content in the genome. It is not. All alleged "proofs" of "evolution in action" today do not show that functional new information is added to genes; rather, they involve sorting and/or loss of genetic information. Let us examine the fossil record. After, 150 years after Darwin and alleged millions of years of gradual evolution-by-creeps [too slow to see], evolution-by-peaks [too fast to see] and evolution-by-freaks (genetic mutations still harmful-produces nothing new by way of transmutations: snails remain snails, clams clams, trilobites trilobites, jellyfish jellyfish, birds birds, fish fish, apes apes, man man) , we have only a few highly disputed intermediate or so-called transitional fossils that could cover a billiard table and are highly disputed even among evolutionists themselves.

What scientists find in the fossil record are completely formed and intact fossils of all life-forms without a hint of evolutionary ancestors or "transitional" fossils in the geological strata beneath them (evidence for biblical creation). And what do we have in the so-called hierarchy of human evolutionary ancestors that you see neatly and orderly arranged in some museum? You have nothing more than illustrations and drawings like you see in textbooks, or plaster of Paris reconstructions of candidates (supposedly intermediate or transitional) out of the wild imagination of some artist paid to tell the evolutionary story? All you are seeing in museums are STORIES ABOUT EVIDENCE, not actual material evidence of bones and in-between stages of evolutionary development. Detailed analysis of a number of various "ape-man" candidates shows that they are either fully ape-like or fully human, not transitional or even mosaic. Australopithecines were not ancestral to modern man, and Lucy was a knuckle-walker . Homo habilis is a "taxonomic wastebin". Homo erectus was a variety of Homo sapiens (Humans), with overlapping cranial capacity and morphology and even seafaring ability. Homo erectus, including Java Man, was just a post-Babel variety of Homo sapiens (modern man), and had seafaring ability. Some of the ape-man candidates are based on very fragmentary remains such as Ardipithecus and Orrorin. Artists are told to make their drawings look "more transitional"; there is plenty of leeway since skin, hair, lips and noses are not fossilized.

David Murray: abiogenesis is not evolution, open a grade school level science book as you are not smarter than a fifth grader. Then learn how to use google
List of transitional fossils - Wikipedia

Rayburne Winsor This is not science; it is science fiction. You have nothing more than illustrations and drawings like you see in textbooks, or plaster of Paris reconstructions of candidates (supposedly intermediate or transitional) out of the wild imagination of some artist paid to tell the evolutionary story? All you are seeing in museums are STORIES ABOUT EVIDENCE, not actual material evidence of bones and in-between stages of evolutionary development. Detailed analysis of a number of various "ape-man" candidates shows that they are either fully ape-like or fully human, not transitional or even mosaic. Australopithecines were not ancestral to modern man, and Lucy was a knuckle-walker . Homo habilis is a "taxonomic wastebin". Homo erectus was a variety of Homo sapiens (Humans), with overlapping cranial capacity and morphology and even seafaring ability. Homo erectus, including Java Man, was just a post-Babel variety of Homo sapiens (modern man), and had seafaring ability. Some of the ape-man candidates are based on very fragmentary remains such as Ardipithecus and Orrorin. Artists are told to make their drawings look "more transitional"; there is plenty of leeway since skin, hair, lips and noses are not fossilized.


Rayburne Winsor: I have heard the same old crap during the last 40 years of discussing this topic with atheists, science students and skeptics. Most of which is highly speculative in nature and not surprisingly based on evolutionary assumptions and predictions (nothing ew). But what real evidence, if any, do they have. As I said, a few supposedly “transitional” fossils that even evolutionists highly dispute among themselves.
Charles Oxnard, formerly professor of Anatomy and biological Sciences at the University of Southern California and Professor of Human Anatomy and Human Biology , University of Western Australia, showed that the big toe of the famous “Lucy” stuck out as in chimpanzees.

Also, Dr. Fred Spoor, Professor of Evolutionary Anatomy at University College London, UK , and joint editor of the Journal of Human Evolution , performed CAT scans of australopithecine inner ear canals , the organs of posture and balance. This showed that they did not walk habitually upright (See Spoor, F, Wood, B., and Zonneveld, F., Implications of early hominid morphology for evolution of human bipedal locomotion, Nature 369 (6482):645-648, 1994). This is all contrary to Dawkins’ claim that Lucy “walked upright on her hind legs...on two feet which were pretty much like ours although its brain was the size of a chimpanzee. Indeed, evidence now suggests that Lucy had wrist-locking abilities “classic for knuckle walkers” which is hardly consistent with Dawkins claim that ucy walked upright like we do (Stokstad, E., Hominid ancestors may have knuckle walked, Science 287 (5461) :2131, 2000, citing the first author of Richmond, B. G. and Strait, D.S. , Evidence that humans evolved from a knuckle walking ancestor , Nature 404 (6776):382, 2000). Museums once featured Australopithecus africanus as an ancestor to humans---A. Africanus includes “Mrs Ples” (now thought to be small “Mrs Ples”) and the Taung child (Dawkins, The Greatest Show on Earth, p.189-193) . Donald Johanson , the discoverer of “Lucy” , places Australopithecus africanus in a side-branch not leading to man (Johanson, D. C. and White T.D. , A Systematic Assessment of Early African Hominids , Science 203:321-330, 1979) and many museums have now demoted this once certain human ancestor to a non-ancestor.

Time magazine reported on a specimen called Ardipithecus ramidus kadabba, dated between 5.6 and 5.8 million years old. Time claimed that this new specimen was already walking upright , at (what they claim was ) the dawn of evolution. But how clear is this really> Time reports the opinion of the discoverer of “Lucy”, Donald Johanson : “Beyond that, he’s dubious about categorizing the 5.2 million year old toe bone (Ardipithecus) with the rest of the fossils : not only is it separated in time by several hundred thousand years, but it was also found some 10 miles from the rest (Lemonick, M.D. and Dorfman, A., One Giant Step for Mankind, Time magazine cover story, 23 July 2001). Note that this toe was the major “evidence” for uprightness, yet, at being found 10 miles away , it boggles the mind how it could be regarded as part of the same specimen. As one researcher put it regarding the fossils and human evolution, “Fossils are fickle. Bones will sing any song you want to hear” ( Shreeve, J., Argument over a woman, Discover 11 (8):58, 1990).

When the various fossils are analyzed in depth, they turn out not to be transitional or even mosaic. That is my last comment. I don't really care what you come back with. You believe what you want. You seem to enjoy calling me dishonest and a liar, but David the truth is you would not know the truth if it was standing right in front of you. I will leave it to the readers to decide who is honest and truthful based on real evidence and scientific research, for which I gave clear references, mostly from evolutionary journals and publications, not straw dummy arguments without evidence to support it. Of course, I know you will deny that too as dishonest and a lie. Right?
Honestly, I don't feel sorry for guys like you who are brainwashed by the fairy tale for grown-ups (Evolution) but the truth is, as both you and I know, you do not want to know the truth, just promote your evolutionary faith that is nothing more than a philosophical justification for not wanting to believe unbelief in a Creator/God. It is not rocket science, David, as I hope and pray you find out before you exit this life on earth (and you will).

For example, Pakicetus (whale from Pakistan) was first drawn as an aquatic creature based on a few skull bones and teeth (Gingerich, P.D., et al., Science 220 (4595): 403-406, 22 April 1983). Its discoverer Philip Gingerich proclaimed it to be perfectly intermediate in time and in its morphology, a missing link between earlier land mammals and later, full-fledged whales (Gingerich , P.D., J. Geology. Educ 31:140-144, 1983. Since a few scraps of bone were interpreted in an evolutionary framework, it is not surprising that they were thought to be a “missing link”.

However, when the rest of the skeleton was found, it was realized to be a fast-running land creature (then drawn by the same artist as the diagram in Dawkins book (see Thewissen, J. G. M., et al., Skeletons of terrestial cetaceans and the relationship of whales to artiodactyls, Nature 413: 277-281, 20 Sept. 2001; and Pakicetus...eight years on. Illustration: Carl Buell ).

This is hardly the only example of evolutionists misleading the public , exaggerating the evidence from a few scraps of bone. The moral of the story, as one evolutionist put it, is:”Fossils are fickle. Bones will sing any song you want to hear (Shreeve, J. Argument over a woman, Discover 11 (8):58, 1990 (in reference to human evolution).

European #fundie


- For CONCEALING FOSSILS unearthed from below the ground,
- For keeping 100 MILLION FOSSILS, that have remained unchanged for millions of years, hidden away from the public eye,
- For never admitting they have NOT EVEN A SINGLE INTERMEDIATE FORM FOSSIL,
- For concealing for years the fact that IT IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR PROTEINS TO FORM BY CHANCE,
For FABRICATING FAKE SKULLS and producing them as evidence of the imaginary evolution of man,
- For portraying the Piltdown Man hoax, MADE BY ADDING AN ORANGUTAN JAW TO A HUMAN CRANIUM and filing down its teeth, as an intermediate form and for deceiving people by exhibiting it in a museum as alleged evidence of evolution for the next 40 years,
- For inventing the hoax intermediate Nebraska Man FROM A SINGLE WILD PIG TOOTH, producing false reconstructions to give people the impression that such a being had ever existed, and deceiving them still further BY PRODUCING PICTURES OF THIS NON-EXISTENT ENTITY’S WHOLE FAMILY,
- For the way they for years depicted Haeckel’s FORGED EMBRYO DRAWINGS, produced with the aim of proving the lie that human embryos possess gills, as evidence for evolution,
- For the way they are still displaying THE SEQUENCE FOR THE EVOLUTION OF THE HORSE, WHICH EVEN THEY ADMIT TO BE FALSE, in museums,
- For dishonestly depicting moths THEY GLUED ONTO TREE TRUNKS as “industrial revolution moths that had evolved by way of natural selection,”
- For depicting the Coelacanth, WHICH STILL LIVES IN DEEP SEA WATERS TODAY, as an intermediate form,
- For CONCEALING fossils of complex life forms dating back to the Cambrian Period FOR NO LESS THAN 70 YEARS, out of concern these would totally discredit evolution,
- For ADDING FEATHERS TO FOSSIL DINOSAURS and trying to pass this off as an intermediate form when they were unable to find any genuine intermediate form fossils to prove Darwinism,
- For persisting in the FRAUD THAT LIFE FORMS GRADUALLY EVOLVED FROM THE PRIMITIVE TO THE MORE ADVANCED, even though they know perfectly well that the first organisms with characteristics of a similar complexity to those of present-day life forms appeared suddenly and simultaneously in the Cambrian Period, some 530 million years ago,
- For portraying mutation experiments as evidence for evolution, despite knowing full well that mutations do nothing but harm organisms, and for years reiterating THE LIE THAT MUTATIONS LEAD TO EVOLUTION,
- And for so long teaching students in all schools and universities the deception that “chance causes evolution” AS A SCIENTIFIC FACT.

Icebear #fundie

A proof or disproof is a kind of a transaction. There is no such thing as absolutely proving or disproving something; there is only such a thing as proving or disproving something to SOMEBODY'S satisfaction. If the party of the second part is too thick or too ideologically committed to some other way of viewing reality, then the best proof in the world will fall flat and fail.

In the case of evolution, what you have is a theory which has been repeatedly and overwhelmingly disproved over a period of many decades now via a number of independent lines reasoning and yet the adherents go on with it as if nothing had happened and, in fact, demand that the doctrine be taught in public schools at public expense and that no other theory of origins even ever be mentioned in public schools, and attempt to enforce all of that via political power plays and lawsuits.

At that point, it is clear enough that no disproof or combination of disproofs would ever suffice, that the doctrine is in fact unfalsifiable and that Carl popper's criteria for a pseudoscience is in fact met.

The educated lay person is not aware of how overwhelmingly evolution has been debunked over the last century.

The following is a minimal list of entire categories of evidence disproving evolution:

The decades-long experiments with fruit flies beginning in the early 1900s. Those tests were intended to demonstrate macroevolution; the failure of those tests was so unambiguous that a number of prominent scientists disavowed evolution at the time.

The discovery of the DNA/RNA info codes (information codes do not just sort of happen...)

The fact that the info code explained the failure of the fruit-fly experiments (the whole thing is driven by information and the only info there ever was in that picture was the info for a fruit fly...)

The discovery of bio-electrical machinery within 1-celled animals.

The question of irreducible complexity.

The Haldane Dilemma. That is, the gigantic spaces of time it would take to spread any genetic change through an entire herd of animals.

The increasingly massive evidence of a recent age for dinosaurs. This includes soft tissue being found in dinosaur remains, good radiocarbon dates for dinosaur remains (blind tests at the University of Georgia's dating lab), and native American petroglyphs clearly showing known dinosaur types.

The fact that the Haldane dilemma and the recent findings related to dinosaurs amount to a sort of a time sandwich (evolutionites need quadrillions of years and only have a few tens of thousands).

The dna analysis eliminating neanderthals and thus all other hominids as plausible human ancestors.

The total lack of intermediate fossils where the theory demands that the bulk of all fossils be clear intermediate types. "Punctuated Equilibria" in fact amounts to an attempt to get around both the Haldane dilemma and the lack of intermediate fossils, but has an entirely new set of overwhelming problems of its own...

The question of genetic entropy.

The obvious evidence of design in nature.

The arguments arising from pure probability and combinatoric considerations.

Here's what I mean when I use the term "combinatoric considerations"...

The best illustration of how stupid evolutionism really is involves trying to become some totally new animal with new organs, a new basic plan for existence, and new requirements for integration between both old and new organs.

Take flying birds for example; suppose you aren't one, and you want to become one. You'll need a baker's dozen highly specialized systems, including wings, flight feathers, the specialized system which allows flight feathers to pivot so as to open on upstrokes and close to trap air on downstrokes (like a venetian blind), a specialized light bone structure, specialized flow-through design heart and lungs, specialized tail, specialized general balance parameters etc.

For starters, every one of these things would be antifunctional until the day on which the whole thing came together, so that the chances of evolving any of these things by any process resembling evolution (mutations plus selection) would amount to an infinitessimal, i.e. one divided by some gigantic number.

In probability theory, to compute the probability of two things happening at once, you multiply the probabilities together. That says that the likelihood of all these things ever happening, best case, is ten or twelve such infinitessimals multiplied together, i.e. a tenth or twelth-order infinitessimal. The whole history of the universe isn't long enough for that to happen once.

All of that was the best case. In real life, it's even worse than that. In real life, natural selection could not plausibly select for hoped-for functionality, which is what would be required in order to evolve flight feathers on something which could not fly apriori. In real life, all you'd ever get would some sort of a random walk around some starting point, rather than the unidircetional march towards a future requirement which evolution requires.

And the real killer, i.e. the thing which simply kills evolutionism dead, is the following consideration: In real life, assuming you were to somehow miraculously evolve the first feature you'd need to become a flying bird, then by the time another 10,000 generations rolled around and you evolved the second such reature, the first, having been disfunctional/antifunctional all the while, would have DE-EVOLVED and either disappeared altogether or become vestigial.

Now, it would be miraculous if, given all the above, some new kind of complex creature with new organs and a new basic plan for life had ever evolved ONCE.

Evolutionism, however (the Theory of Evolution) requires that this has happened countless billions of times, i.e. an essentially infinite number of absolutely zero probability events.

I ask you: What could be stupider than that?

Fruit flies breed new generations every few days. Running a continuous decades-long experiment on fruit flies will involve more generations of fruit flies than there have ever been of anything resembling humans on Earth. Evolution is supposed to be driven by random mutation and natural selection; they subjected those flies to everything in the world known to cause mutations and recombined the mutants every possible way, and all they ever got was fruit flies.

Richard Goldschmidt wrote the results of all of that up in 1940, noting that it was then obvious enough that no combination of mutation and selection could ever produce a new kind of animal.

There is no excuse for evolution to ever have been taught in schools after 1940.

CurtusLove #fundie

Tax payers have spent more than a Billion Dollars supporting your Religion of Evolution based on Lucy the 3 foot monkey, Pig Tooth Man, Human skull with Ape Jaw Man, Circular Reasoning Fossil Dating, Dozens of fraudulent facts in our school books, censorship of all opposing science that inadvertently supports the probability of other theories, and all you have to offer us is Hitler's, Stalin's, &
Chairman Mao Tse-tung's governing ideology that justifies selection for extermination?

Azril Mohd Amin and Rafidah Hanim Mokhtar #fundie

Let’s be clear. Being leftist does not inoculate you from behaving like a fascist; just as authoritarianism is not the exclusive vice of the right wing. The Nazis, after all, were socialists and lest we forget, Joseph “Dictator” Stalin and Chairman Mao Zedong were communists, while Francisco “Fascist” Franco in Spain was, in fact, a left wing socialist.

The most archetypal examples of totalitarianism in the 20th Century were incarnated by left wing ideologues and simply, using liberal jargon with the aim to appeal to compassion and tolerance in order for you to advance a deeply authoritarian agenda does not make that agenda less offensive.

What makes a movement fascist is the degree, to which it does not accept dissent, its refusal to tolerate other opinions and the outright arrogance in seeking to advance its agenda through force, demonization and denigration of anyone who disagrees with it. And this is quite noticeable among the so-called “progressives;” or what should be more accurately described as the “regressive left.”

The left does not deal magnanimously with anyone who challenges its narratives; in reality, the supporters can be quite malicious.

In Malaysia, human rights NGO, the Centre for Human Rights Research and Advocacy or Centhra, along with a broader coalition of NGOs under the name Macsa (the Malaysian Alliance of Civil Society Organisations in the UPR Process), recently published a statement against the efforts to advance political agenda of the LGBT community in the country against the prevailing sentiments and religious concerns of the general public.

Centhra and Macsa were instantly excoriated online by gay-rights activists and left-wingers as advocates of “selective rights.” Worse off, Centhra and Macsa were brandished as bigots and as religious extremists. Their credentials as human rights defenders were rejected with the allegations that they purportedly did not align with the Universal Declaration of Human Rights 1948 (UDHR) in their opposition to, for instance, same-sex marriage.

LGBT defenders’ political game

To begin with, it should be acknowledged that it is a political ideology to regard homosexuality as an identity akin to race or ethnicity. This is neither an objective nor a scientific fact and for all intents and purposes, it remains merely an opinion.

Another opinion, far closer to objective evidence, is that homosexuality is a chosen behaviour. Therefore, the moment we begin to talk about the “rights” of the LGBT community, we are participating in an ideological discussion.

Declaring that LGBT individuals deserve special rights and protections is based on the concept that homosexuality is an identity, and this should not be accepted as an un-debatable fact. A good deal of the progress in the LGBT agenda has derived from their making this concept unquestionable; even though the actual science on the matter is, at best, inconclusive.

It is an entirely valid viewpoint if you do not subscribe to the idea that there should be special rights afforded to LGBT individuals. This viewpoint does not in any way equate to believing that the general rights afforded to all people do not apply to them.

If you choose to believe that homosexuality is a chosen behaviour, which, in the absence of conclusive scientific evidence to the contrary, is the most reasonable assumption to make; then, like everyone else, LGBT individuals are, and should be, subject to laws that regulate public behaviour.

Furthermore, like everyone else, their choices once made, will tend to limit (or at the very least impact) their subsequent available options.

Take for example the right to contract a marriage. The right to marry is upheld by the UDHR, but it is a right upheld for heterosexual couples exclusively, wherein article 16(1) thereof uses the phrase “men and women of full age.”

There is nothing whatsoever that contradicts the UDHR if one does not believe in the right of same-sex couples to marry. Nor is there anything inaccurate about describing the push for gay-rights and same-sex marriage as essentially a political agenda, rather than a human rights concern.

If one chooses to exclusively partner with members of one’s own sex, one has implicitly chosen to not marry and to not procreate. It is made with a conscious decision to choose. These are at least two of the obvious ramifications of that choice, and avoiding the consequences of one’s decisions is not a human right.

One cannot invoke their right to food, for example, when they have chosen to spend their income on other things.

Pushing political agenda in the name of human rights

The regressive left are manipulators of the UDHR, not defenders of it. They are not human rights campaigners; they are political extortionists who couch their demands in the language of human rights.

The preamble of the UDHR states that “a common understanding of these rights and freedoms is of the greatest importance for the full realisation of this pledge,” yet the leftists want to reinterpret the terms of the contract which the UDHR represents after it has been signed; and by this new interpretation, they intend to include things to which the signatories have not agreed; and they call this “defending” the UDHR!

The UDHR provides no special recognition of homosexuality as an identity deserving specific rights or protections; it only states that the general rights outlined in the declaration cannot be denied to any individual on the basis of his or her sex.

That is what the signatories have agreed to; nothing more and nothing less of this. And the term “sex” used herein refers to the biological anatomy of an individual, as opposed to the term “gender” which may refer to the social role based on the sex of the person.

Pushing the political agenda of recognisng homosexuality as an identity rather than a chosen behaviour, has no basis in the UDHR, and opposing that agenda is in no way conflicting with the rights enshrined in it. Every nation is free to legislate behaviour according to their own standards of morality and justice and logic.

The UDHR has always respected each member state’s rights to establish its own human rights laws within the ambit of its national narratives.

One must ask, why are the leftists in Malaysia holding other fellow citizens in such contempt that they believe they are incapable of determining for themselves what is best for our society? Why do they presume, when the people of Malaysia disapprove of homosexuality, and resist the same-sex political project, that they are all religious extremists and ignorant bigots; all the while it is the leftists who are seeking to force average Malaysians to follow their unpopular political opinions?

In short, why are they so fundamentally undemocratic in their pursuit of their “human rights” agenda?

W. F. Price #fundie

I have no idea whether this will work, but there’s always the chance that it will backfire, as women could come to view them as contemptuous beta males. If history – recent and distant – is any indication, female voters prefer men to be alphas. Political leaders who were particularly popular with women include Idi Amin, Adolf Hitler, Chairman Mao, Josef Stalin, Kim il-Sung, Fidel Castro and Genghis Khan, as well as other less notorious tyrants. I can’t imagine any of these men, who were so passionately coveted by their countrywomen, would don an apron and talk about baking cookies. In fact, it would appear from the record that the best route into the hearts of one’s female subjects/constituents is to be a totalitarian mass murderer.

Terry Hurlbut #fundie

[re: the fish-tetrapod transitional fossil tiktaalik being found in the very geological stratum predicted by evolution]

And tiktaalik might have been found in that deep stratum for either of at least two reasons:

1. It was less able to seek higher ground than other, "smarter" animals, and thus was buried deep in the Flood.

2. It is actually an antediluvian laboratory chimera and hence an out-of-place artifact of a society already known to have been inordinately cruel.

ChairmanMaoII #fundie

Alright, but as a tried and true follower of Mao Tse-tung Thought, I have to tell you, that alternative moralities are NOT a given in the Communist mode of thought. Under Chairman Mao, if someone was caught being gay, let alone transsexual, they were promptly taken out and shot. I am NOT suggesting that should occur now. I merely report what happened. Today in China, being of alternative sexuality is difficult. Perhaps not AS difficult, but still by no means easy.

I freely acknowledge that my own morals lean toward the classic Bolshevik puritanical type stuff.Obviously I am not recommending that others who disagree get shot, but I freely acknowledge that I am out of line with just about every leftist party in the United States.

What I have noticed, and frankly, I admit it bothers me, is that most people in this country are Communist or Socialist for mushy feel-good reasons, as opposed to the hard economics of the thing. In fact, most of them have never read Marx, Engels, Lenin, or Mao. This is of course based on my limited experience with the CPUSA.

Look, I don't want to be a killjoy. But if we are Communists, we have to BE Communists. And this mushy feel-good stuff might play well in preschools, but it won't do very well on the battleground of a revolution. As Chairman Mao told us, A revolution is NOT a dinner party. And I am not just talking about a traditional "pick up your guns and overthrow the State" type. I am talking about the kind that we most prefer in the USA and countries like it; revolution at the ballot box.

I mean look: we've got a choice of Trump or Clinton this year! The two HUGEST narcissists in the freaking world, and they are both running for President of the most powerful nation on Earth! Well, if that isn't just a pretty kettle of stinking fish! We Communists had better get our ducks in a row and stop supporting the Democratic Party so darned blindly. Now is the time for INFORMED Marxists to get their butts in gear. Read your Marx, read you Engels, your Lenin, your Mao, hell, even your Stalin. Get involved. But ultimately, get informed. Before its too late.

Anonymous #fundie

Consider, for example, the very famous fossil of a creature called Archaeopteryx (ar kee op' ter iks), which evolutionists want to believe is an intermediate link between reptiles and birds. This fossil is found in Jurassic rock, which (see Figure 9.2) contains remains of dinosaurs as well. In the geological column, Jurassic rock is underneath Cretaceous rock, which is underneath Tertiary rock. Although a few fossilized birds are found in other strata, the vast majority of bird fossils in the fossil record come from either Tertiary rock or the Quaternary rock that lies on top of it. Now remember, according to the assumptions of macroevolutionists, this would mean that birds did not really exist in significant numbers until the times during which Tertiary and Quaternary rock formed. Thus, during the times when Cretaceous and Jurassic rock were forming, macroevolutionists assume that birds had not yet evolved to any significant degree. Since Archaeopteryx is found in Jurassic rock, macroevolutionists conclude that it lived prior to most birds and that it could therefore be one of the transitional forms linking birds to their common ancestor, which is assumed to be some form of reptile. The figure below shows you a picture of the fossil of Archaeopteryx as well as an artist's rendition of what the creature might have looked like.


In the vast majority of respects, this creature is a bird. The fossil shows very good imprints of feathers, and analysis of these feather imprints indicates that they are the kinds of feathers you see on birds that are living today. In fact, flightless birds that are living today have different feathers from those of birds that fly, and the fossil imprints indicate that Archaeopteryx had feathers of a flying bird.

In addition, the bones preserved in the fossil are very similar to the bones of birds that are living today. The skull, for example, shows that Archaeopteryx had a brain very similar to flying birds that are living today, and the fossilized inner ear indicates that Archaeopteryx had senses of hearing and balance that are comparable to flying birds that are living today. After performing X-ray scans of the skull and working with computer models, Dr. Timothy Rowe of the University of Texas at Austin said, “This animal had huge eyes and a huge vision region in its brain to go along with that and a great sense of balance. Its inner ear also looks very much like the ear of a modern bird.” (University of Texas at Austin Press Release, August 4, 2004,, retrieved 01/06/05). In addition, paleontologists have been able to confirm bone structures that indicate Archaeopteryx had the same kind of lung design that birds living today have. In the end, then, Archaeopteryx seems to be a bird.

Why do many paleontologists consider Archaeopteryx a transitional form between reptile and bird? Because Archaeopteryx has teeth (which birds living today do not have), and it has claws on its wings, as shown on the illustration in the figure. No adult bird living today has claws on its wings. Some young birds (like the juvenile touraco or the juvenile hoatzin) have claws on their wings when they are young, but they lose them by the time they are adults. Some adult birds, like the ostrich, have structures on their wings that a few texts call “claws,” but they are better called “spurs,” because they do not have the actual structure of claws.

Because of these minor differences between Archaeopteryx and birds living today, macroevolutionists want to believe it is a transitional form between bird and reptile. After all, most (but not all) reptiles have teeth, and most (but not all) reptiles have front and back claws. Thus, the teeth in Archaeopteryx are supposed to represent reptilian teeth that had not quite “evolved away,” and the claws on its wings are supposed to represent front reptilian claws that had not quite blended in to the wing.

There are at least two problems with this interpretation. First, it assumes that birds living today are the only representations of proper birds. This is a rather myopic view of the natural world. We have many fossils that tell us a lot about the kinds of creatures that lived on this earth but are not living now. Are we to ignore them? If we do not ignore these creatures, we find that there were other birds that had teeth. In fact, there is a whole subclass devoted to such extinct birds, subclass Odontornithes (oh' don tor' nih theez). As a result, it is not clear that the teeth on Archaeopteryx are all that special.

The second problem with this interpretation is that it puts a lot of emphasis on rather minor structures in the animal. Based on its feathers, bone structure, lung structure, etc., Archaeopteryx seems to be a true bird. These are the main features we look at to determine whether or not something is a bird. To concentrate on two minor features, one of which exists in extinct birds, seems to be ignoring the vast majority of the data. Those who want to believe that Archaeopteryx is a transitional form will counter that we only see these structures in extinct birds, and therefore it is reasonable to assume that they were a part of the evolutionary process. However, species go extinct rather regularly, as demonstrated by the fossil record itself. The fact that all of the birds with these characteristics are now extinct is not surprising, since extinction is a major part of the fossil record.

Archaeopteryx at least illustrates how difficult it is for macroevolutionists to come up with transitional forms in the fossil record. If Archaeopteryx is a transitional form, it is a very late one. It must have been one of the very last creatures on the hypothetical macroevolutionary line between reptile and bird. Of all the transitional forms necessary to turn a reptile into a bird, it seems odd that the only one that has been found is so incredibly birdlike. Why isn't there a transitional form that is not so ambiguous?

As we said before, there are a few fossils like Archaeopteryx that macroevolutionists can present as transitional forms. The problem is, like Archaeopteryx, these supposed transitional forms are incredibly similar to one of the two types of creatures they are supposed to be linking. It seems much safer to conclude that these are just specialized versions of the creatures they are similar to, as opposed to transitional forms between two different kinds of creatures.

wendy1946 aka Ted Holden #fundie

Evolution has been scientifically disproven repeatedly over a very long period of time to such an extent that any real science theory (i.e. any theory which was actually defended for reasons related to science rather than to careers and lifestyles) would have long since been discarded.

I've mentioned the decades-long fruit fly experiments conducted in the early decades of the 1900s and the explanation for the failure of those experiments offered by the discovery of DNA. That by itself should have ended evolution as a viable theory.

Another overwhelming disproof has been the continued total failure to find intermediate fossils; Darwinism demanded that the VAST BULK OF ALL fossils be clear and unambiguous intermediates. The total lack of any such finally forced Steven Gould, Niles Eldridge and others to concoct the hare-brained "punctuated equilibria" (punk-eek) theory to replace Darwinian gradualism. Punk-eek has so many problems itself that evolutionites generally now try to present aspects of both theories as if they were compatible, which they were not.

For that matter, the other thing which Punk-eek was intended to resolve was the Haldane Dilemma, which describes the gigantic time spans which would be needed to spread any genetic change through any large herd of animals which was already spread out geographically. People who have followed the Haldane problem to its logical conclusions speak in terms of quadrillions of years for anything resembling evolution to produce our present biosphere even if that were possible, which it isn't.

Nonetheless, far from having quadrillions of years to work with, we are now gradually learning that the dinosaurs which we've been told all our lives died out 70 million years ago, were here much more recently than that and that the 70 million years are basically a fairytale. This information includes blood, meat, and other soft tissue found in dinosaur remains over the last few years.

... Like I say, it's basically all over but the shouting. Evolution is a dead theory walking.

Answers in Genesis #fundie

[Note that this article was written for children.]

Scientists recently uncovered the fossilized footprints of an animal in southeastern Poland. It had feet and appeared to walk like a four legged creature. Why is this important?

It's important because some scientists have dated the fossilized footprints ten million years earlier than Tiktaalik, a fish-like creature that they believed was the “missing link” between water-dwelling creatures and land-dwelling creatures. Finding “older” fossil footprints, indicating that animals were already walking on land, makes these scientists doubt that Tiktaalik was first to begin walking on land.

Evolutionary scientists have made up an interesting story about how they believe fish eventually became land animals. They tell us that fish, living in water with low oxygen, first developed lungs. How could this happen? How could fish grow lungs so that they could breathe air? Then, supposedly, these fish changed their fins into front legs, to drag themselves out onto land.

The evolution story reads like a science fiction novel, and it is hard to believe that some scientists can present these theories and expect people to unquestionably believe them. When people turn away from God and His account of creation, they become “willingly ignorant.” The strangest ideas can be accepted as fact—even the idea that fish decided to grow all the body parts they needed to survive on land!

Thee_Bruno #fundie

You can analyze the motivations of LIBERALS until the cows come home. It all boils down to the same Anti-American philosophy, and the same Anti-Freedom philosophy! LIBERALISM'S roots were spawned along with the rest of mankind's basest instincts - during the Dark Ages! (Communism and islam, just to name a couple.)

You can dissect, bisect, and tear apart every LIBERAL'S flawed arguments and they will still boil down to their Communist, America-hating, freedom-denying, liberty-hating, Totalitarianistic, simplistic propaganda.




LIBERALS HATE AMERICA....but they don't dare live anywhere else because they are...DARE WE SAY IT?....COWARDS!!


Kevin Martin #fundie


Charles Darwin stated, in his Origin of Species, "The geological record is extremely imperfect and this fact will to a large extent explain why we do not find intermediate varieties, connecting together all the extinct and existing forms of life by the finest graduated steps. He who rejects these views on the nature of the geological record, will rightly reject my whole theory."

Now, 130 years and billions of fossils later, we can rightly reject the view of an incomplete fossil record or of one "connecting together all . . . forms of life by the finest graduated steps."

Out of the millions of fossils in the world, not one transitional form has been found. All known species show up abruptly in the fossil record, without intermediate forms, thus contributing to the fact of special creation. Let's take a look at Archeopteryx, a fossil that some evolutionists claim to be transitional between reptile and bird.

Archeopteryx is discussed in evolutionist Francis Hitching's book, The Neck of the Giraffe - Where Darwin Went Wrong. Hitching speaks on six aspects of Archeopteryx, following here.

(The following six points are quoted from Luther Sunderland's book, Darwin's Enigma: Fossils and Other Problems, pp. 74-75, the facts of which points he gathered from Hitching's book.)

1. It had a long bony tail, like a reptile's.

In the embryonic stage, some living birds have more tail vertebrae than Archeopteryx. They later fuse to become an upstanding bone called the pygostyle. The tail bone and feather arrangement on swans are very similar to those of Archeopteryx.

One authority claims that there is no basic difference between the ancient and modern forms: the difference lies only in the fact that the caudal vertebrae are greatly prolonged. But this does not make a reptile.

2. It had claws on its feet and on its feathered forelimbs.

However, many living birds such as the hoatzin in South America, the touraco in Africa and the ostrich also have claws. In 1983, the British Museum of Natural History displayed numerous species within nine families of birds with claws on the wings.

3. It had teeth.

Modern birds do not have teeth but many ancient birds did, particularly those in the Mesozoic. There is no suggestion that these birds were transitional. The teeth do not show the connection of Archeopteryx with any other animal since every subclass of vertebrates has some with teeth and some without.

4. It had a shallow breastbone.

Various modern flying birds such as the hoatzin have similarly shallow breastbones, and this does not disqualify them from being classified as birds. And there are, of course, many species of nonflying birds, both living and extinct.

Recent examination of Archeopteryx's feathers has shown that they are the same as the feathers of modern birds that are excellent fliers. Dr. Ostrom says that there is no question that they are the same as the feathers of modern birds. They are asymmetrical with a center shaft and parallel barbs like those of today's flying birds.

5. Its bones were solid, not hollow, like a bird's.

This idea has been refuted because the long bones of Archeopteryx are now known to be hollow.

6. It predates the general arrival of birds by millions of years.

This also has been refuted by recent paleontological discoveries. In 1977 a geologist from Brigham Young University, James A. Jensen, discovered in the Dry Mesa quarry of the Morrison formation in western Colorado a fossil of an unequivocal bird in Lower Jurassic rock.

This deposit is dated as 60-million years older than the Upper Jurassic rock in which Archeopteryx was found. He first found the rear-leg femur and, later, the remainder of the skeleton.

This was reported in Science News 24 September 1977. Professor John Ostrom commented, "It is obvious we must now look for the ancestors of flying birds in a period of time much older than that in which Archeopteryx lived."

And so it goes with the fossil that many textbooks set forth as the best example of a transitional form. No true intermediate fossils have been found.

In a letter to Luther Sunderland, dated April 10, 1979, Dr. Colin Patterson, of the British Museum of Natural History, wrote:

"...I fully agree with your comments on the lack of direct illustration of evolutionary transitions in my book. If I knew of any, fossil or living, I would certainly have included them. You suggest that an artist should be used to visualise such transformations, but where would he get the information from? I could not, honestly, provide it, and if I were to leave it to artistic licence, would that not mislead the reader?"

Just think of it! Here is a man sitting amidst one of the greatest fossil collections ever and he knows of absolutely NO transitional fossils. So convincing I believe this quote to be that it will sum up this discussion on fossil evidence.

Confused #fundie

[Quote : Iosef Stalin, Mao Tse-Tung and Saloth Sar did not commit any of their atrocities in the name of atheism.]

But they WERE atheists! I find it amazing how people like Lanny and you will say that Christianity was the reason that the Nazis killed the Jews, but when it comes to your side, well that's different. Their atheist ideology affected their actions. If atheism was the pure and peaceful philosophy that you claim it is, then atheists wouldn't be this violent. Whether they did it in the name of atheism or not is completely beside the point. THEY DID IT.

[Quote : Another mistake you are making is thinking that atheism is a monolithic bloc. All atheism is is the non-belief in deities.]

How many times do i need to say this. PEOPLE USE PHILOSOPHIES AND IDEOLOGY TO JUSTIFY DOING THINGS THEY WOULD OTHERWISE SEE AS WRONG. Religion is a convenient justification for such deeds. While atheism does not nearly provide the covering that religion does, it HAS BEENN USED AS A JUSTIFICATION FOR ATROCITIES IN THE PAST. Those atheist dictators I mentioned earlier 'exterminated' religious people on the belief that their allegiance to their gods could cause resistance to the state. Atheism was preached as the state religion because people who believed it would be, in their opinions, easier to control. Go ahead, deny it. You will only prove that you are a revisionist historian who thinks he has all the answers. Your BA in history doesn't make you an expert, my friend.

[Quote : Your conclusions regarding the actions of Stalin, Mao, Hoxha and Pol Pot are just as biased as mine.]

Defend the gods of atheism at all costs. You are pathetic, dude!

Starbuck #fundie

Atheists are so stupid. You work really hard to discredit Mr. Comfort, but in turn prove his point.

Go ask individual atheists on their morals. Oh really? What would we ask of Stalin? or of Mao? Or how about Pol Pot?

Ask any Christian of where the laws and morals come from? If they aren't an idiot they all will say from God.

Ask atheists, who knows what their answer will be. So many of them will say society or from their own locigal conclusions.

What if like stalin or mao decide they need to eliminate thier political rivals.

And to pronounce that you are better or more moral then God is just down right disgusting.

You lie, cheat, steal, covet, commit homosexual crimes (YES CRIMES!), you are adulterers and fornicaters. You also take pleasure in your sins. You justify your sins. Then you accuse God of being immoral.

You disgust me. (SPIT)

hawkeye2009 #fundie

However, when the Quaran weighs as more significant than the US Constitution, in the eyes of a sitting POTUS, we have a terrible, terrible problem which is basically treason. The Bible has never had greater influence than the Constituion in the history of the US. Why should the nation disregard the Bible, which has established the cultural and moral basis for the US, in favor of the Quaran, which has favored enslavement, subjugation, and tyranny as its basis????

Obama is that Manchurian Candidate that values the Quaran more than the US Constitution.

In a rational environment, he would already be impeached and enjoying "free time" in Leavenworth. However, in the age of liberalism, we have a treasonous US president who works to oppose the best interest of the avearge US citizen and remains in power, unapposed, simply because he is black.

Obama should be hung for treason.

Only political correctness and the inability of the US population to acknowledge failure, incompentence, and treasonous activities of a citizen, simply because he is black, shows how low the nation has fallen.

Obama= Muslim= traitor to the US

Wake up Liberals- you have been fooled (yet again). Your idiocy has cost the US and been exposed in the 1930s (Stalin), 1940s -1950s (mao, Stalin), 1960s (Castro, Ho Chi Mihn), 1970s ( Pol Pot,, castro) 1980s (Ortega, Castro, Ayatollah khomeni), and beyond.

Wake up and read. Your support of tyrants who oppose liberty here and outside the US is killing the hope of liberty for the world for the purpose of fanciful idiocy. We do not need more tyrants, totalitarianism, and suppression of rights. We need mrore liberty- oppose fascist liberals who support the rigths of the government over those of the people.

Oddly, I feel like a "hippie" from the 1960s pleading for "power to the people" to the very same people who espoused this plea 50 years ago and now whole heartedly support fascism for political expediency- liberalism.

Tim Weatherly #fundie

['Panderichthys (380MYA) - earliest known fish with bone structure of ulna, radius, humerus in pectoral fins, and femur/tibia/fibula in the hindlimb. Originally classified as an amphibian, until complete skeletons were unearthed demonstrating an attached pectoral girdle, delicate vertebrae, and a long caudal fin. (Thompson American Scientist, 79(Nov/Dec 1991))

Acanthostega and Ichthyostega (363MYA) - Fish with 8 or 7 fingers on each pectoral and hind fin, respectivley (Coates and Clack, Nature, 352, July 18, 1991, p. 234-236). Four legs, internal gills, lungs, detached pectoral girdle, but weak ribs, delicate vertebrae, weak pelvic girdle, preoperculum, and abundant foramen throughout the skull indicating vascularization of the gills, indicating that they were still functional.']

And Panderichthys is a FISH! It has no limbs. It has fins. There has never been found a fossil of a "fishbian," if you will, which has partially developed limbs. Indeed, how could a partial limb have been an advantage but if no partial limbed "fishbian" ever existed, then the question of how could a fish change into an amphibian without intermediate stages. The problem is making sense of necessary evolution tales.

Michael Savage #fundie

However, Savage ultimately returned to his theory that Obama is in fact a secret Muslim Brotherhood supporter, but also a Maoist. He claimed that “ObaMao” is running a dictatorial socialist system complete with “reeducation camps” — i.e. schools and universities — and “the only thing missing now is the actual beatings, arrests and murders in America.” He predicted that such violent actions are on their way, just as anti-Semitism spread gradually throughout Hitler’s Germany before leading to horrific atrocities.

“We are living through a very dangerous transition in America right now and there is only one individual who actually knows what is going on and is willing to say it, he is as clear-eyed on it as I am, Donald Trump,” Savage said. “Which is why all the Lilliputians of the Reich are attacking him.” [Emphasis added]

This, of course, led Savage to beg the parents of Hollywood celebrities to stop their communist children from destroying America through another Maoist Cultural Revolution.

Savage also speculated that the Obama administration has already brought the Muslim Brotherhood to power in the U.S. and very soon American “children will be forced to bow to Allah.”

He said that while liberals deny seeking to murder Obama’s critics, he knows that liberals, such as Fox News host Megyn Kelly, whom he refers to as “Chairman Mao’s mistress” and “Martha Mao,” are closet Maoists who will bring brutal communism to the U.S.

Jose Maria Sison #fundie

Mao Zedong is responsible for the most significant and the greatest effort to confront the phenomenon of modern revisionism. He launched the Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution (GPCR) in 1966 and put forward the theory and practice of continuing revolution under proletarian dictatorship in order to combat revisionism, prevent the restoration of capitalism and consolidate socialism. In most of the ten-year course of the GPCR, Mao and the Chinese Communist Party provided effective leadership in revolutionizing the mode of production and the social superstructure. But soon after Chairman Mao´s death, the Deng revisionist clique successfully staged a coup, purged at least 30 per cent of the membership of the CCP and imprisoned thousands of cadres.. Thereafter, it carried out anti-socialist reforms at an accelerated rate from 1978 onwards .

Mario Seiglie #fundie

Can we prove that evolution is false without using the Bible? Certainly we can! Evolution is a scientific theory that stands or falls on the physical evidence. In fact, one can be an atheist, a person who doesn’t believe in God, and still not believe in evolution!

Charles Darwin’s theory of evolution, as taught at school, is a biological explanation of how creatures have supposedly “evolved” or developed progressively through natural selection and variation (now known as mutation) over eons of time from the tiny cell to the largest creatures on earth today. What is taught in classrooms is not mere micro evolution—small changes within a species—but macro evolution, the change from one type of creature to another quite distinct life form.

What many evolutionists are trying to convince you of is that there is no need for a Creator since, as they say, evolution can substitute as the mechanism for creating and transforming life. They teach that life arose from non-life and evolved from simpler creatures to more complex life forms. In other words, the tiny cell eventually became an amoeba, then a lizard, then a monkey, and finally— you !

In order to remember key points that disprove Darwinian evolution—the “molecules to man” theory—we’ll use the acronym FALSE. (A few of these points also disprove the compromise of theistic evolution—the notion that God employed macroevolution over eons in forming the creatures we see on earth today.)

A fossil is the preserved remains of a living thing. The fossil record around the earth extends an average of one mile deep. Below this level we come up with a blank slate as far as living, complex creatures are concerned.

I collect fossils of what are deemed the earliest type of complex creatures with hard bodies—trilobites. No previous ancestors of these arthropods have been found. Similar to some marine “bugs” we see today on the seashore that disappear into the sand when the waves retreat, trilobites had hard shells, all the basic organs, and complex eyes like those of flies, with hundreds of sophisticated lenses connected to the optic nerve going to the brain. Trilobite fossils are found around the earth, and in all cases the level of rock beneath them does not reveal other creatures with similar features.

As one source states: “The dominant life form was the now-extinct sea creature known as a trilobite, up to a foot long, with a distinctive head and tail, a body made up of several parts, and a complex respiratory system. But although there are many places on earth where 5,000 feet of sedimentary rock stretch unbroken and uniformly beneath the Cambrian [layer], not a single indisputable multi-celled fossil has been found there. It is ‘the enigma of paleontological [fossil studies] enigmas,’ according to Stephen Gould. Darwin himself said he could give ‘no satisfactory answer’ to why no fossils had been discovered. Today’s scientists are none the wiser” (Francis Hitching, The Neck of the Giraffe , 1982, pp. 26-27).

Question: If, after almost two centuries of digging beneath all the world’s continents, no previous ancestor of this first hard-bodied creature has been found, how then did the ubiquitous trilobite evolve? There should be some previous ancestor if evolution were true.

It’s like finding an exquisite watch on the seashore and yet never finding any previous primitive models of the watch on earth. If you reasoned as an evolutionist, you would deny there was a need for a watchmaker at all, maintaining that time, water, sand, minerals and actions of the elements are sufficient to producing a fully functional watch that runs. This is part of the reason it takes more faith to believe in evolution than in a Creator!

Further important evidence from the fossil record is the absence of transitional forms between species. Darwin was concerned that the thousands of intermediate stages between creatures needed to prove his theory were not in evidence, but he expected they would eventually be found. Yet those thousands of missing transitional forms are still missing!

Another reference explains: “If throughout past ages life was actually drifting over in one continual stream from one form to another, it is to be expected that as many samples of the intermediate stages between species should be discovered in fossil condition as of the species themselves … All should be in a state of flux. But these missing links are wanting. There are no fossils of creatures whose scales were changing into feathers or whose feet were changing into wings, no fossils of fish getting legs or of reptiles getting hair. The real task of the geological evolutionist is not to find ‘the’ missing link, as if there were only one. The task is to find those thousands upon thousands of missing links that connect the many fossil species with one another” (Byron Nelson, After Its Kind , 1970, pp. 60-62).

The absence of transitional forms is an insurmountable hurdle for theistic evolutionists as well. It also fits with our next point.

When there is no real evidence, evolutionary scientists simply make assumptions.

If evolution were true, then where is the evidence of different types of animals now “evolving” into other types? Where is the evidence of cats, dogs and horses gradually turning into something else? We do see changes within species, but we do not see any changes into other species. And, as mentioned, we see no evidence of gradual change in the fossil record either. Yet evolutionists continue to assume that transitional forms must have existed.

In Darwin’s landmark book On the Origin of Species there are some 800 subjective clauses, with uncertainty repeatedly admitted instead of proof. Words such as “could,” “perhaps” and “possibly” plague the entire book.

Evolution is still called a theory—a possible explanation or assumption—because it is not testable according to the scientific method, as this would require thousands or millions of years. Evolutionists will counter that a theory is not a mere hypothesis but is a widely affirmed intellectual construct that generally appears to fit all the facts. Yet evolution in no way fits all the facts available. Evidence does not support it—and in many respects runs counter to it.

The law of biogenesis as taught in biology class states that only life can produce life.

You’ve probably heard the famous question: Which came first, the chicken or the egg? It’s a real dilemma for an evolutionist to answer. An egg comes from a chicken, yet the chicken comes from an egg. How can there be one without the other?

To complicate matters even more, the chicken has to come from a fertilized egg that has the mixture of two different genetic strains from both its parents. So the problem of the origin of life and initial reproduction is still a mystery that evolutionary science cannot adequately answer.

Yet for someone who believes in special creation by a Creator, there is no dilemma here. First God made the male and female chickens, which produced the first fertilized egg—and the rest is history.

When one living thing needs another different living thing to survive, it’s called a symbiotic relationship.

A good example of this is the relationship between bees and flowers. The bees need the nectar from some types of flowers to feed while these flowers need bees to pollinate them. Both depend on each other to exist and survive. The question for evolutionists is: How did these plants exist without the bees, and how did the bees exist without these plants?

Again, atheistic scientists are stumped. Theistic evolutionists are perplexed as well. Yet if you believe in a Creator who specially created the various forms of life on earth, the answer is simple—both were created at about the same time.

All living things are exquisitely engineered or designed. Qualitatively, a bacterium is as majestically built for its purpose as a human body is for its function. Yet evolution says it’s only an illusion of design—that there is no real designer behind it. Reality is not an illusion! Living things are multi-functional, which means they do many complex things at the same time, something evolution with its step-by-step process has never been able to demonstrate.

One example of a living thing with exquisite engineering is the tree. It provides breathable oxygen for us while processing carbon dioxide, which would in high amounts in the air be toxic to us. It supplies wood, housing for birds, roots to limit erosion, fruit and seeds to eat, is biodegradable and gives shade. According to the U.S. Department of Agriculture, “A healthy tree provides a cooling effect that is equivalent to 10 room-size air conditioners operating 20 hours a day.” How could something so complex arise from a random, undirected evolutionary process?

Again, you need more “faith” to believe in blind evolution than in an all-knowing Creator who designed the marvelous tree in the first place.

Now you have five proofs that evolution is F-A-L-S-E and that special creation is true—and we didn’t even use the Bible. Remember the acronym FALSE when you read or hear about evolution—and do take time to read our Creator’s great book of truth! It has much to say regarding origins.

Rayburne F. Winsor #fundie

I once posted a long comment on a similar article by Randy Alcorn entitled: Do you believe God created the universe in six literal (24 hour) days? I certainly do. I really am not concerned with how many (is it 38%) “evangelical Christians are compromising the truth of God’s Word regarding the sex literal (24-hour) days of creation in Genesis by bowing down to scientific opinion (“from the goo, through the zoo, to you” evolution) that accommodates millions of years to the days of Genesis rather than the clear,straightforward , literal meaning of six literal (24-hour) days in Genesis. There is no warrant biblically, scientifically or linguistically for doing so (from the perspective of the ancient Hebrew language). I have posted many long comments why I oppose theistic evolution (accommodating long ages to the literal days of Genesis) as not biblical. Jesus Christ himself accepted the Genesis account of creation (Matthew 19:4), including the supernatural creation of Adam and Eve, as well as the biblical account of Noah’s Flood (which would radically alter everything modern uniformitarian geologists have learned in Geology) as historical fact (Matthew 19:: 4, Matthew 24:37-39). We should not be surprised by this when we remember that, though many leading scientists (i.e. “scriptural geologists”) resisted the “old earth” ideas of James Hutton and Charles Lyell (Uniformitarianism) and defended scripture as both true and scientific, Regrettably, it was Christians, not evolutionary scientists, who first lead the charge against scripture, beginning in the 1800s when theologians (theistic evolutionists) readily adopted the “old earth” ideas, of Lyell (uniformitarianism) instead of Noah’s Flood. The Bible believing scientists of the day were in a difficult position of trying to defend scripture when even theologians (who compromised the literal history of Genesis) were against them. The situation remains even worse today, despite recent scientific discoveries about the universe, atom, the internal structure and incredible complexity of cells, DNA, the natural world, etc. Believing scientists, though understandably still in a minority, are leaving Darwinian Evolution, recognizing that strictly natural processes, operating at random on inorganic chemicals, could never have produced complex living cells. Unfortunately, though they have grown weary of arguing how random mutations (essentially harmful to a living organism) in a highly complex genetic code provide improvements to it (no functional genetic information-increasing changes on which “goo to you” evolution depends). So, what do they do? They re-adopt Creation, but still hold on to the old earth and formulate a local Flood account to fit modern uniformitarian geology. How much better it would (and I believe employ better science) to come all the way back to a biblical worldview (instead of just a halfway or middle position between biblical creation and natural evolution (Theistic evolution).. See other comment below:

One could write a book on why it is imperative that Bible-believing Christians not compromise the historical truth of Genesis 1 ( i.e. Day-Age theory, Gap theory, Framework Hypothesis theory) by adding or accommodating evolution to the Genesis account. First, theistic evolution, which is just evolutionary development with God added on, is diametrically opposed to supernatural, ex nihilo (out of nothing), , fiat, (divinely spoken Word\) creation, which even Darwin, who was also a divinity student, rejected: In a letter he wrote to Charles Lyell in 1861, he stated: “The view that each variation has been providentially arranged seems to me to make Natural Selection entirely superfluous, and indeed takes the whole case of the new species out of the range of science” . Not only was theistic evolution rejected by Darwin, but also was never seriously considered by the other founding fathers of evolution. The evolutionary claim of an old earth (4.5 billion years old) denies the veracity of the first 11 chapters of Genesis regarding the order of creation (contrary to evolution, the Bible says birds were created on Day 5 at the same time as the sea creatures –before dinosaurs and other land animals; the Bible says the work of shaping the earth was finished on Day 3 before the moon was made on the 4th day into earth’s creation, not smashed from the earth in a cataclysmic collision; etc.), the distinctness of created kinds (10 times in Genesis 1), the absence of death and bloodshed before the Fall (see Genesis 3; Romans 5:12), the instantaneous creation of Adam and Eve and all of creation functionally mature (which explains the appearance of age), the “very good” status of the creation at the end of the creation week (Genesis 1:31), the great longevities of the patriarchs, and the global nature of the Flood, as attested by over 200 Flood traditions by peoples all around the world, over 30 scriptural references (indicating universality of Great Flood), and layers of water-deposited sedimentary rocks containing separate and distinct and intact kinds of fossilized plants, birds, animals, etc. (not transitional or intermediate fossil) all over the earth.

Every major doctrine of Christianity stands or falls upon the historical foundation laid in the first 11 chapters of Genesis. Obviously, if death were here eons before Adam sinned (Genesis 3), as evolution requires, then creation had already been spoiled and death is not the penalty for sin, as scripture plainly teaches (Genesis 2:16; Romans 5:12). This, in turn, means that Christ’s death and resurrection were ineffective and meaningless, and the biblical teaching (Romans 8:18-23; Rev. 21) of the final restoration (Paradise Regained) of this fallen world to its original state before the Fall (only much more magnificent and glorious)–no sin, no death. no curse–is sheer nonsense. Dr. James Barr, formerly Oriel Professor of the Interpretation of Holy Scripture at Oxford University and renown as one of the world’s leading Old Testament Hebrew scholars , wrote, “So far as I know, there is no professor of Hebrew or Old Testament at any world class university who does not believe that that the writer (s) of Genesis 1-11 intended to convey to their readers the ideas that creation took place in a series of six days which were the same as the days of 24 hours we now experience.” The word “day” (Hebrew yom) associated with a numeral (i.e. “first day” “second day,” “third day” in Genesis 1 (and that used 359 times in the Old Testament outside of Genesis 1 ) always means a literal 24-hour day. 

To make sure that no one missed the obvious meaning of a literal 24-hour day, the writer (s) of Genesis 1 under inspiration of the Holy Spirit further qualifies “first day, ” “second day” etc. with “evening and morning”–“and the evening (that part of the day associated with darkness) and morning (that part of the day associated with light) were the first day” (“second day, “third day” etc.). But many who are easily embarrassed (yes, that includes genuine Christians and theistic evolutionists like Dr. John Lennox, astronomers like Hugh Ross and others) by the opinions of secular scientists concerning the unproven assumptions of radiometric dating (which has been off by hundreds of thousands/millions of years, even on rocks of known age) will claim that Genesis 1 and other creation passages are myths, parables, poetry, dramas, allegories or analogies–the only exceptions to the perspicuity of scripture and cardinal rule that “context defines the meaning of a word”—anything, in order to escape the obvious fact that they are written, and read as, a straightforward historical narrative.
Even such astounding scholars as Dr. E. J. Young of Westminister Seminary in Philadelphia, an authority of massive erudition in Hebrew and cognate languages holds that “Genesis is not poetry. There are poetical accounts of creation in the Bible–Psalm 104, and certain chapters in Job, and they differ completely from the first chapter of Genesis. Hebrew poetry had certain characteristics, and they are not found in the first chapter of Genesis.” He further states: “The man who says I believe that Genesis purports to be an historical account, but I don’t believe that account” is a far better interpreter of the Bible than the man who says, “I believe that Genesis is profoundly true, but it is poetry”. The inspired, infallible Word of God trumps the opinion (actually “faith”) of fallible scientists, my friend. Don’t undermine or sell out the firm foundation (Genesis 1-11) on which your Christian faith is based, my friend, for the favor and praise of men. God will reward you in due time for your faithfulness to His inspired, infallible Word. God bless.

Josef Stalin #fundie

[NSFW: Gross subject matter]

Stalin 'used secret laboratory to analyse Mao's excrement'
by Steven Rosenburg


It is former Soviet agent Igor Atamanenko who claims to have uncovered this unusual project, while doing research in the archives of the Russian secret services.

"In those days the Soviets didn't have the kind of listening devices which secret services do today," he told the paper.

"That's why our specialists came up with the most extravagant ways of extracting information about a person."

Mr Atamanenko says it was Stalin's henchman Lavrenti Beria who was put in charge of the secret laboratory.

When I contacted Mr Atamanenko, he told me what the Soviet scientists had been looking for in fæces.

"For example, if they detected high levels of amino acid Tryptophan," he explained, "they concluded that person was calm and approachable. But a lack of potassium in poo was seen as a sign of a nervous disposition and someone with insomnia."

Mr Atamanenko claims that in December 1949, Soviet spies used this system to evaluate the Chinese leader Mao Zedong who was on a visit to Moscow. They had allegedly installed special toilets for Mao, which were connected not to sewers, but to secret boxes.

For 10 days Mao was plied with food and drink and his waste products whisked off for analysis. Once Mao's stools had been scrutinised and studied, Stalin reportedly poo poo-ed the idea of signing an agreement with him.


Extract from The Coldest Winter by journalist and historian David Halberstam:

When Mao first arrived in Moscow, he announced that China looked forward to a partnership with Russia, but he emphasised as well that he wanted to be treated as an equal.

Instead he was being taught a lesson each day. He had become, in Ulam's words, ''as much captive as guest".

As such, he shouted at the walls, convinced that Stalin had bugged the house: "I am here to do more than eat and shit."

Ralph #fundie

Someone says to Ralph: You can look in the fossil record and see a dog like mammal slowly develop into a dolphin like mammal, is this not proof of evolution?

Ralph's response: There are no fossil records of intermediate stages of any animal. You may have a fossil of a dog like creature and then a fossil of a dolphin, but that proves nothing other than there was a dog like creature and there was a dolphin.

James A. Wilson #fundie

Communism is a far-left immoral atheistic political ideology that calls for a classless, stateless, moneyless society. This is the logical conclusion to any form of leftism. In order to achieve this, socialism must replace capitalism and theoretically this ends up with the communist utopia. In practice, this results in brutal totalitarian regimes that ban religion and promote eugenics, which is a subset of Darwinism.
Karl Marx first proposed this idea in the Communist Manifesto, and after the Russian Revolution the Soviet Union was formed to try to implement communism. Vladimir Lenin failed, and Josef Stalin decided to try to create communism in one country. Mao Zedong, Fidel Castro, and other brutal dictators then attempted to implement communism to no avail.
Luke 19:13 says "And he called his ten servants, and delivered them ten pounds, and said unto them, Occupy till I come." Here, the Lord Jesus Christ condemns any form of leftism such as communism as here he is delivering a solid free market parable because we are to engage in capitalistic business until Jesus Christ returns again.
Even though the Soviet Union has collapsed, communism still exists in countries such as China, Cuba, Denmark, France, Vietnam, and Laos.
Those in the West who identify as communist are most likely male, unshaven, obese, unemployed, living in their mother's basement, and $200,000 in debt over a "gender studies" degree. They may also claim to have the fake disability of "autism" to justify living off the government dole and desire that everyone may experience the rationing and lack of innovation and ingenuity that plagued the former Soviet Union.

List of Communist Slogans

Workers of the world, unite!
The only church that enlightens us is the church that burns!
The theory of the Communists may be summed up in the single sentence: Abolition of private property.
Political power comes from the barrel of a gun
From each according his faculty, to each according to their need
There will be no further explanation. There will just be reputation.

List of Famous Communists

Karl Marx
Frederich Engels
Vladimir Lenin
Josef Stalin
Fidel Castro
Mao Zedong
Bernie Sanders
Barry Soetoro
Taylor Swift
Van Jones
George Soros

CitizenDK #fundie

Here is a point I try to make with my liberal friends to begin to pry their heads loose from the trashcan of ideology upon which they consistently dine. Think about modern US politics. Even the most hardcore liberals would agree that there are legitimate things to criticize Obama for, however you will never see the legitimate criticism on Fox News.

All of Fox News reporting on Obama bordered on ridiculous. Think about those absurdities and the lies about the Clintons. No legitimate criticism to be found and he was very much the right wing's ally.

Now imagine Stalin and Mao. They led the two most successful socialist states in history. Stalin is the scourge of the bourgeois. They hate him worse than they hate Hitler. Michael Parenti is great on this. Leaders who served the Proletarians, from Julius Caesar through Stalin are always portrayed as Tyrants, monsters, murderers, demagogues.

Also, whenever a liberal uses the word Freedom and Democracy they mean Capital Freedom to move where it will and Capital Democracy, the right for Capital to make the decisions. I am still studying and I am not as well versed as other comrades so I welcome criticism or expansion on anything I have said. thanks.

don55 #fundie

It doesn't matter who started the NAZI party no more than it matters who started the communist party that many democrats belong to today. Is Hillary any less a socialist/commie because she wasn't around at the beginning of the communist party?

Hitler gravitated to the NAZI partyu because he was a socialist. If Hitler had lived as a painter in San Francisco or the Village in the early 60s instead of Vienna he would have been called a beatnik.

Nothing Hitler did was inconssistent with socialism.
Same goes for Vladamir Lennon or Stalin or Mao for that matter.

Socialist/progressives hate Jews.
Hitler hated Jews.
Lennon and Stalin hated Jews.
All were Socialists.

Hitler had no problem with the brown shirts being homosexual until Rohm Putsch (you know he he was right?)began to form his own alliances in opposition to Hitler. So Hitler turned to Heinrich Himmler to kill rahm and the brown shirts in the night of the long knives. June 30 to July 2 1934.

Hitler was a left wing pervert who engaged in cporophilia. Hitler is reported to have had a coprophilia love affair with his half niece Geli Raubal who committed suicide. BTW two of Hitler's other lovers also committed suicide. And another attempted suicide. Right? Why? Was it because death was more appealing than to continue as slaves to Hitlers perverse and filthy sexual desires. Perhaps no one will ever know but it fits.

It was Heinrich Himmler that fed Hitler's delusion for grander and took the Nazi and the SS into satanic rituals. I am not saying Hitler wasn't for the pure ariyan

Ryan Hamm #fundie

Letter from 2016 in Obama’s America

October 29, 2016

Dear friends,

Remember the words of the classic American hymn, “The Angry American (Courtesy of the Red, White, and Blue)?” Think on these lyrics:

And you’ll be sorry that you messed with
The U.S. of A.
‘Cause we’ll put a boot in your a**
It’s the American way.

While Christians have always rejected Brother Keith’s use of an expletive, the sentiments he expressed were certainly biblical. The USA was put on this earth by God to protect people and to be the New Covenant Nation. Well, brothers and sisters: I regret to say that this song may no longer be true. It is no longer the “American way” to defend freedom, liberty, and Jesus. No, in this, the eighth year of Chairman Obama’s administration (he took on the name “Chairman” in the “Mao-Rocks-My-Face-Off Act” of 2014), the American way is perversion, anti-family, anti-gun, environmentalist, pro-welfare, and pro-every-possible-sin-in-Leviticus-you-can-find.

Here is but a smattering of the many egregious measures Obama has taken as president over the past 8 years.

1. Family issues
Chairman Obama has begun the logical conclusion to his anti-life platform: Baby work camps. Yes, every child under the age of 2 is now taken from his or her mother, placed in an internment camp, and forced to crawl on a little hamster wheel to generate electrical power. Obama touts this plan as “clean energy”—in reality, it is an anti-family policy from the pits of Hell.

In the 7th year of the Obama adminstration, abortion doctors were given “attaboy” pensions—$6 million dollars in “wealthy-white-people” taxes—for performing abortions. Around the same time, Planned Parenthood (now a federally funded agency under the Department of Defense) began hosting “abortion parties” where every time an abortion is performed, there is a party with a taped greeting and congratulatory message from Chairman Obama.

2. Supreme Court
In 2014, Clarence Thomas stepped down after Ariana Huffington (now the Secretary of Blogs) accused him of “not being black enough.” Obama then nominated radical lesbian activist Rosie O’Donnell to replace him, and she was approved unanimously by the overwhelmingly Democratic Senate. The liberals now have a 8-1 advantage on the highest court in the land.

Because of this, the non-believing Democratic liberals have pushed through their radical agenda. In keeping with the destruction of the FCC (God’s way of keeping us from using bad words) and the War on ChristmasTM, the Supreme Court passed the “XMas Act of 2013”, outlawing the word “Christmas” and changing the official name to XMas—made worse one year later when, under incredible pressure from the Hefner family, they changed the holiday to “XXXMas” and made it a celebration officially sponsored by the adult film industry. Chairman Obama said “I didn’t know it would come to this, but I’m just upholding the law.”

3. Homosexuality and Sexual Perversion
In 2012, public pornography became rampant. Well, brothers and sisters, I’m grieved to report that, in 2016, matters are even worse. Public nudity became standard under the “Clothes? Who Needs ‘Em Act” of 2015 and people began to copulate in public. In early 2016, under the “Natural=Same Act,” public homosexual fornication became the law of the land, and heterosexual reproductive activity was officially confined to procreation centers. Again, Chairman Obama objected on a personal level, saying “Michelle and I have always thought that procreation was a natural part of marriage, but the Supreme court knows better. I trust Chief Justice O’Donnell’s judgment in this matter.”

Homosexuals are also sure to control the country for many years to come thanks to the new “Gay? You Can Vote Twice” law passed by congress in 2013.

In perhaps the most flagrant abuse of God’s law, Vice-Chairman Biden married a goat in a civil ceremony recognized by the ultra-leftist court. In the “Biden vs. Crazy-Right-Wing-Nuts-Who-Don’t-Recognize-Animal-Rights” decision, Justice Souter (now aged 106) wrote in the majority opinion, “I [expletive] totally support it if Joe [expletive] Biden wants to [expletive] marry a goat. If you don’t [expletive] like it, [expletive] [expletive] [expletive]. It is the decision of this court that all who oppose Biden’s [expletive] marriage will be sent to a [expletive] island and will be forced to wear scarlet M’s for ‘Meanie.’ [Expletive].” As you can see, language has also taken a sharp turn to the left.

4. Social issues
In keeping with his radical weapons policy, Chairman Obama signed into law the “Sharp Pointy Objects Act of 2013,” outlawing all sharp sticks, knives, and razor blades.

After years of murmurings from the Treasury Department that bar code forehead implants would replace all cash, it finally happened in 2015. Now, all citizens are required to have a unique bar code installed beneath the skin of their forehead, used for all payment and identification purposes.

Illegal immigrants are given a special place of honor in the new America. There are now 7 official languages in the United States besides English (none of them Hebrew or biblical Greek, so they aren’t really “languages” so much as “garbled American-English”).

New environmental initiatives have made the water cleaner, the air cleaner, and corporations responsible for their spills, thanks to market-driven efforts headed by consumer advocacy groups. The North Pole has been mostly restored and the hole in the ozone is mostly gone. We know as believers that this is NOT God’s best—his plan is to slowly destroy the earth via our pollution and then take all of us away to meet him in the sky before the really bad stuff happens.

5. Foreign Policy
Just last month, Chairman Obama rode a pig into the temple in Jerusalem because of the Supreme Court’s recent “Executive Pork-Riding Legislation” saying “I’m just supporting their law, not my own convictions. I don’t even eat meat.” This backs up the reputable claim that Obama is, in fact, the Beast out of the Earth.

In 2014, the EU outlawed any mention of God, Jesus, the Holy Spirit, or Michael W. Smith. The remaining Christians in the United States put up a fuss, but Chairman Obama said “As the United States, we cannot put pressure on any place that would seek to explore their individual spirituality in whatever way they would choose.”

The Department of Homeland Security was abolished in 2013 and replaced by “The Department of Inclusive Peacemaking.” Michelle Obama heads this new department, which includes mandatory terrorist appreciation and training courses in all public schools. Chairman Obama has taken on a second wife, sister of Osama Bin Laden, in order to “cement the bond between our two communities.”


It came as no surprise, then, when in 2012 the Obamas converted from “Christianity” to Baal Worship, and created new “pagan holidays” wherein Americans are required to take off work to fornicate and drink “blood martinis,” a drink invented in the West Hollywood gay goth community circa 2010.

Brothers and sisters, you can see how bad it has gotten. And yet, we have the Christians of 2008 to thank for these events. Some Christians thoughtfully voted for McCain, realizing that his policies most closely matched their own convictions. We don’t care why they voted for McCain, of course, just that they did. Other Christians prayerfully cast their vote for Chairman Obama, sure that his policies were closer to their Christian convictions, unaware that he was so clearly the pawn of Satan. I would never say that those Christians lost their salvation for Democrats—but I would think it.

Now I’m just holding out hope that the Rapture will happen before too long. According to the pre-trib, pre-millennial chart I have on my wall, Gabriel’s mouth is close to the horn. Take heart my brothers and sisters. And remember: Enjoy America’s dominance and, in the words of Prophet Toby Keith, embrace “the American Way.”

Reclaiming America for Jesus (and for James Dobson),

-A Christian from 2016

Ben Carson #fundie

Even if you accept evolutionary theory–developing a more sophisticated organism in this theoretically “logical” fashion, then there should be a continuum of organisms. And why did evolution divert in so many directions–birds, fish, elephants, apes, humans–if there is some force evolving to the maximum? Why isn’t everything a human–a superior human? Darwin specifically stated that his theory hung on the discovery of intermediate forms, and was sure that we would find them. More than a hundred years later we still haven’t found them. Even the earliest fossils don’t show such intermediates.
Take the simple case of ape to human. It should be easy to find abundant fossil remains since, according to evolutionary theory, this is the most recent transition. If we can find so many fossils of dinosaurs, which are further back in the evolutionary scheme, we should have plenty of evidence of intermediates between apes and humans. But we don’t have them. We have very few supposed intermediates–like “Lucy,” based on fanciful reconstruction with a lot of filling in. Today we have people with significant congenital abnormalities whose skeletal remains would seem like a missing link. So “Lucy” does not make the case, and there should be multiple “Lucys” if the transition from ape to human were true.

SillySillyBoy #fundie

This is rubbish. The VAST majority of the violence is being directed from the left and towards Trumpers. Anyone who denies that is either lying or relies entirely on heavily biased progressive media.

For today's hysterical attempt to paint Donald Trump as worse than, like, literally Hitler: Newsflash: school children bully each other in playground, this never happen before Trump go nominated.

The bigger issue is the brainwashing of an entire generation to the point where any complaint or criticism about any foreigner is automatically labelled "Hitler/Nazi/Racist" and dismissed as immoral to even talk about.

There is nothing illegitimate about Americans being concerned with millions of illegal immigrants coming into their country from Mexico. Just like there's nothing illegitimate about uncontrolled immigration being a huge issue in the Brexit debate.

You are absolutely right. This is the progressive media propaganda machine at its worse. The thing is, it's game over for them and they don't realise. These words "Nazi", "racist", "xenophobe" are losing their power because they've been overused to silence debate for far too long. Young people are starting to laugh at these terms, starting to make jokes about them just to trigger the neurotic progressive thought police. They've lost control of the Narrative and we are seeing the final desperate throws before the left sinks into despair (or possibly reacts with their traditional mass violence).

Why do the left never include Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Castro, Pol Pot in these lists? The left's 20th century body count is far higher. A recent survey found half of young people in Britain don't recognise Stalin's name, but nearly everyone knows Hitler. That's what decades of the left's complete control over education gives you: redwash.

Ron Graham #fundie

Charles Darwin is credited with bringing about a worldwide change in man’s thinking about the origins of life. Although Darwin wasn’t the first to espouse the idea of the theory of evolution, he certainly got most of the credit. When Charles Darwin wrote his famous book on the theory of evolution, he probably had no idea where that ugly lie would take mankind and what a major falling away from faith in God would occur.

Man has been trying to glorify Darwin and promote his theory of evolution even though there isn’t a shred of proof of any of those so called scientific “evolutionary” facts. Man in all his diligence has never found any intermediate fossils. This means scientists have no proof of anything evolving from a lower life form into a higher life form. Man has never found or observed a gradual change in any life form in all the billions of fossils that have been dug up in all the years he has been searching. Mutations and adaptations happen, but there is no observable evidence pointing to a transition form one life form to another. That fact alone demolishes the theory of evolution. If Darwin was alive today, and being presented with the scientific facts we now have, he would not be a believer in his own theory.

Darwin wrote “Intermediate links? Geology assuredly does not reveal any such finely graduated organic chain; and this, perhaps, is the most obvious and serious objection which can be urged against the theory [of evolution].”

Charles Darwin, The Origin of Species p. 323

One example we can see is the scientific evidence against the human eye evolving. This is a staggering reality; the scientific evidence is overwhelmingly in favor of our Creator God. All secular scientists have is blind speculation.

“Both the origin of life and the origin of the major groups of animals remain unknown”

dwgerard #fundie

But looking past that, having no God means that whoever is the biggest, fastest, meanest or strongest becomes the boss. There is no justice other than what humanity comes up with, which is purely in the eyes of the beholder, and even more so the giver. Think of Mao, Stalin, the current leader of Iran.

mrversatile48 #fundie

Open their eyes, Lord: remove their blinkers!.. It is totally astounding how many details have come true, or have the clear possibility of fulfilment at any time... Do you realise that when Revelation was written, @ AD 90, the whole world population was less than 200 million? In 1961, Chairman Mao boasted that China alone could field 200 million militiamen 'at the drop of a hat' - the very figure Revelation forecast for oriental invaders!.. No doubt doubters class Zechariah 14 Armageddon prophecy, 2,500 years ago, as 'lunatic raving' too... It forecasts Antichrist invaders of Israel will have their flesh, eyes & tongues rotted while they stand... Napalm does that... Rev 17's 'great whore..Mystery Babylon' was forecast to HQ in the city of 7 hills: the Treaty of Rome founded the now-EU to fanfared visions of Revived Roman Empire, from founding father Monet, echoed by many EU leaders since& the new constitution betrays the antichrist agenda... We have more than enough biochem WMD to poison all waters, scorch all vegetation, destroy the ozone layer so the sun's rays scorch men, as in Revelation 16 & 19... Wake up out there!

John Smith #racist

The genocide of white men is coming. The executioners will be other white men, usually with sociopathic tendencies, employed by your local police department. It is well known, and blessed by SCOTUS, that a person can be too smart to be a cop (Google the New London case). The police are now militarized with heavy equipment. Combine massive killing power with sociopaths at the controls and you get genocide.

My father was a Marine Corp fighter pilot of the WWII generation. He thought himself a great American patriot. In reality, he was the perfect Nazi storm trooper. He would always side with those in authority (institutions, the powers that be) over the individual.

There is no doubt in my mind that if my father, the great American patriot, was alive in 1776 he would have been a Tory because rebellion and freedom was not his credo. His credo was obedience to higher authority.

There is also no doubt in my mind that if he had a Corsair in 1776 he would have gladly annihilated the embattled farmers at Concord and Lexington. If the embattled farmers of 2016 dared to march on Washington he would gladly strafe their convoys, because he had been ordered to and if for some reason his plane crashed he would die knowing in his heart he was an American hero and patriot.

My father is emblematic of the white American Gestapo that will gladly kill their white countrymen without thinking about what color will fill the power vacuum left when white men have been reduced to the remainder of the genocidal Gestapo. They simply cannot grasp such a thought.

And this is the insurmountable problem. The white race will complete its suicide (begun in WWI) within the next two generations. Nothing can be done to stop it. Historical forces are at work.

The future is yellow and brown. Blacks think they will succeed when whitey is gone. They will be sadly mistaken. Yellow and brown will inflict atrocities upon their people that would make Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot blush. Demographics is destiny. Prepare yourself.

W. F. Price #fundie

[Anarchists held violent protests in Seattle on May Day]

I find it ironic that the anarchists make such an effort to fight the police, because if it weren’t for an orderly society with rule of law they’d be among the first ones liquidated by gangs and citizen militias.

For the most part these groups contain far-left malcontents whose ideology consists of little besides a hatred for all things normal. They are tolerated because they are, in truth, the the radical edge of statist absolutism. It is exactly these kinds of people who paved the way for Bolsheviks, who made up much of the membership of Ernst Röhm’s SA, and who gleefully wrecked the last vestiges of classical Chinese civilization as Red Guards under Chairman Mao.

Macrocephalus #sexist #moonbat #kinkshaming

Sex is ubiquitous in today's western world. Sexual promiscuity is not only condoned but encouraged. Some argue that this is just the way things are naturally supposed to work. Actually though, this wasn't the case for a long time. People actually invested little time and resources dealing with sex. It was pretty much took for granted. Most people would eventually become of age, seek a partner through networking in communities (a small village, the church etc.), get married and that was pretty much it. They'll eventually move on to deal with less worldy and animal-like aspects of life rather than sex. It would play a small part in the rest of their existence, and mainly for reproductive reasons.

Ironically this glorification of sex happens in a time where many people are having less sex than their ancestors used to (there are many studies you probably already know, I'll just link one)

By the way this is absolutely consistent with modern sexual dynamics, since of course when a resource is scarce, it becomes fetishized.

This mechanism also features a key characteristic of capitalism, which is unequally allocating resources: on one hand you have attractive people who are so awashed with sex, and take so much pride in succeeding at something so glorified by society, that they make it one of their main focus in life; then you have normies who delude themselves into thinking they'll eventually get to live the same life as attractive people if only they try hard enough and invest enough time/money; and finally on the other spectrum we have incels who are completely deprived of sex, and thus end up making something so worldly, something they were supposed to take for granted, their main source of pain, misery and motivation (or more often, lack thereof)

Quoting from Marx's "Economic and Philosophic Manuscripts of 1844" regarding the estrangement of labor in the factory based system of production:

As a result, therefore, man (the worker) only feels himself freely active in his animal functions – eating, drinking, procreating, or at most in his dwelling and in dressing-up, etc.; and in his human functions he no longer feels himself to be anything but an animal. What is animal becomes human and what is human becomes animal.

Certainly eating, drinking, procreating, etc., are also genuinely human functions. But taken abstractly, separated from the sphere of all other human activity and turned into sole and ultimate ends, they are animal functions.

There's only a finite amount of resources (time, money, intellectual capabilities) one can dedicate to a given number of activities. If a mundane activity such as sex ends up absorbing a hefty share of them (either because you're good at it and like indulging in it, or because you can't get any and won't stop brooding about it) there will be less resources to dedicate to something else (e.g. questioning the status quo)

Obviously we now live in a post-industrial society. People are now consumers first, rather than producers. Capitalism has thus switched from exploiting labor, to exploiting consumption. This is where the commodification of sex comes into play. Sex being promoted, advertised, fetishized, and unequally distributed just like any other commodity, only broadens the spectrum of consumption, and the broader it gets, the more there is for capitalism to exploit.
Labor -> Consumption -> Sex.
As a consequence, stemming from the estrangement of labor, WE CAN RIGHTFULLY TALK OF ESTRANGEMENT OF SEX as the main tool to degrade mankind.

What is animal becomes human and what is human becomes animal.

[A picture of Karl Marx, Lenin, Stalin, Mao, and then Elliot Rodger]

fighting mad! #conspiracy #wingnut #fundie

This virus is a wet dream for TPTB. It's a bioweapon and I'm pissed. You should be too!

They found the perfect tool to:

Destroy the economy

Cull the "useless eaters", the aged, the disabled and those who can't defend themselves

Make the sheep cower in fear and obey

This germ is the perfect boogeyman. How can you fight a germ?

I'm pissed, so pissed.

They have robbed our children of a "normal" childhood

They have robbed our elderly of living out their golden years with grace.

They have robbed the people of their ability to earn money.

They have robbed the people of their savings.

Houses of worship are closed while abortions continue.

The rich get richer, the middle class gets poor and the poor will be homeless.

They have erased our freedoms.

This virus is not an accident.

This has been planned. Look at the worldwide choreographed response.

Hitler, Mao, Stalin... They wish they could have implemented something this brilliant. Eliminate those who drain resources while not harming the young healthy slaves.

Get mad. You have every right to be.

I want justice. But how do you fight an invisible enemy?

Fucking globalists. Jesus come quickly.

WorldGoneCrazy #fundie

I have a great secular proof for the existence of Hell, David - no Bible required - just some sophomore level logic, maybe a little higher level:

1. Every natural innate human desire has a corresponding satisfying object in reality. (e.g., thirst has the object of water, hunger has the object of food, love has the object of persons and dogs, knowledge has the object of reality perceived through our five senses plus the enormous complexity-resolving hardware and software of our brain, etc) (observation and human experience)

2. Humans possess a natural innate desire for objective moral justice to be satisfied. (the existence of laws, police forces, and prison; also, human psychology; in fact, this desire is so strong that even many atheists will utter the phrase “Go to Hell”)

3. Therefore, objective moral justice exists. (1,2 Modus Ponens)

4. If objective moral justice exists, then it exists for everyone – otherwise, it would not be objective, moral, or justice. (definition of objective moral justice)

5. Therefore, objective moral justice exists for everyone. (4,3 Modus Ponens)

6. If objective moral justice exists for everyone, then it must exist in this life or a potential afterlife for everyone. (complete disjunction on potential human existence)

7. Therefore, objective moral justice must exist in this life or an afterlife for everyone. (6,5 Modus Ponens)

8. For some persons, objective moral justice is not satisfied in this lifetime. (e.g., Hitler, Stalin, Mao, unrepentant abortion "doctors," abortuary deathscorts, etc) (observation regarding heinous atrocities whose perpetrators never received OMJ in this life)

9. Therefore, for some persons, objective moral justice is satisfied in an afterlife. (7,8 simple cancellation)

10. Therefore, objective moral justice exists in an afterlife, i.e., Hell exists. (existential generalization)

(Special thanks to the following atheist-agnostics, and others unnamed, who provided constructive criticisms helping me to identify hidden steps: Elie, markb, Unrepentant Atheist, and Disqusdmnj. Any remaining errors are mine and mine alone.)

desertspeaks #conspiracy

the department of education is rife with communists, just like the white house and the congress/senate and there are at least two communists now sitting on the supreme court!
This explains why quotes from chairman mao would be on the doe website!
but that’s ok, the corporation known as the UNITED STATES “unconstitutionally formed in the act of 1871? is not our lawful government! neither are it’s unconstitutional sub-corporations, doe, irs, et al..
One just need know the territorial jurisdictional limitations of said corporation and how to keep them in their box! Learn why private international laws “federal statutes” don’t apply to American Nationals, only 14th amendment US CITIZENS! it takes time to learn how, but once learned, it’s very easy to keep the morons in their box!

Pastor David L. Brown, Ph.D. #fundie

Communism and the overthrow of authority in songs such as "Revolution No. 9," "Working Class Hero," Back in the USSR," "Power to the People," "Sometime in New York City," "Give Peace a Chance," "Bloody Sunday" (which called British police "Anglo pigs"), "Attica State" ("now's the time for revolution"), "Angela" (which glorified communist Angela Davis), and "Piggies." Lennon performed at anti-America rallies and called upon America to leave Vietnam to the communists. He said: "I really thought that love would save us. But now I'm wearing a Chairman Mao badge, that's where it's at. I'm just beginning to think he's doing a good job" (Lennon, cited by Wenner, Lennon Remembers, p. 86). All of them were heavily into immorality. Perhaps Ringo Star put it best: "We got drunk a lot. You couldn't help it. We had a lot of girls. We soon realized that they were easy to get" (TV Guide, July 29, 1978, p. 21). McCartney said: "We didn't all get into music for a job! We got into it to avoid a job, in truth-and get lots of girls."

I think that David Noebel summarized the influence of the Beatles the best. While he was specifically talking about John Lennon, it does apply to the entire group the way I see it. He said on "the present rock 'n' roll scene, Lennon's legacy, is one giant, multi-media portrait of degradation-a sleazy world of immorality, venereal disease, anarchy, nihilism, cocaine, heroin, marijuana, death, Satanism, perversion, and orgies" (The Legacy of John Lennon, by David Noebel, 1982, p. 15).

The Beatles are NOT great hero, role models that should be emulated, but rather shunned as I inciters of rebellion and corrupters of our culture.

I proffer Psalm 1 in conclusion

"Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful. 2 But his delight is in the law of the LORD; and in his law doth he meditate day and night. 3 And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither; and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper. 4 The ungodly are not so: but are like the chaff which the wind driveth away. 5 Therefore the ungodly shall not stand in the judgment, nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous. 6 For the LORD knoweth the way of the righteous: but the way of the ungodly shall perish."

A.M.D.G. #fundie

Atheism and policies based on atheistic principles have an appalling record of crimes against humanity.
Hitler, although he is best described as a pantheist occultist, used atheistic, evolutionary principles to formulate and justify his eugenic and ‘master race’ policies. Countless millions were brutally slaughtered as a result, including around 6 million Jews. The atheistic regimes of Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Ceaucesco, Honicker, Kim il Sung etc. together murdered at least 39 million people, making the century of the great atheist experiment, the most bloodthirsty and brutal ever in the history of the world. Even today, our present, secular society with atheist inspired ethics continues the slaughter. This time with the killing of, and experimenting on, millions of innocent unborn babies. The fruits of atheistic thinking has proved to be an absolute nightmare. So surely, we must have learned the lesson that atheism is inherently evil.

You can all refer to crimes supposedly committed in the name of this or that religion, but I am afraid the crimes committed in the name of atheist beliefs, (which includes Hitler's evolutionist beliefs) are the worst ever in history. And the 20th century was the first experience the world has had of rule by self-declared atheist states. These regimes taught atheism, banned religion and officially persecuted religious believers in the name of atheism

Brian Niemeier #fundie

Materialist atheists are not of the Right because they do not share the Right's essential motives.

Historically, the Right were defined as those who supported throne and altar against rebellion. They know that Christianity is an essential pillar of all Western nations because only Christianity offers a coherent national origin story that also reinforces each nation's unique identity.

Atomized, hedonistic atheists, on the other hand, at best view the dissident Right as a vehicle to bring them a homogeneous high-trust society where they can indulge in recreational drugs and unfettered crotch worship.

They're barnacles hoping to ride out the storm on Peter's Bark while openly plotting mutiny as soon as they reach the shore.

As for my interlocutor's question, Who cares if Poland, Russia, and China stay Polish, Russian, and Chinese? The answer is Poles, Russians, and the Chinese.

Another reminder appears to be in order. Once again, atheists seeking to hitch themselves to the new Right's wagon have four choices--because late Moderns are all about choice.

1 Confess that Jesus is the Christ and God has raised Him from the dead, and accept Him as your Lord and Savior.
2 LARP for an hour each Sunday at the church of your choice.
3 Shut up.
4 Join the Left. They have all the sexdrugs anyway.

P.S. A few other Twitter users asked me for citations on China going majority Christian by 2050. I originally stumbled upon the prediction while doing research for Combat Frame XSeed. Those notes are on another device which I haven't had time to dig up yet, but another user and I found the following:

First, a 2014 article in the Telegraph titled, "China on Course to Become 'World's Most Christian Nation' within Fifteen Years"

Christian congregations in particular have skyrocketed since churches began reopening when Chairman Mao's death in 1976 signalled the end of the Cultural Revolution.
Less than four decades later, some believe China is now poised to become not just the world's number one economy but also its most numerous Christian nation.
"By my calculations China is destined to become the largest Christian country in the world very soon," said Fenggang Yang, a professor of sociology at Purdue University and author of Religion in China: Survival and Revival under Communist Rule.
"It is going to be less than a generation. Not many people are prepared for this dramatic change."

Next, a report from Pew Research which corrects for under-reporting on the part of China's officially atheist government to indicate that Christians may not be 2% of the population as was thought, but 5%.

MoBushin04 #fundie

In response to your ignorant statement "Uh, Mao & Stalin were communists, idiot. There's IS a difference."

They were communists AND ATHEISTS. Atheists are the most vile and violent people on our earth are both - they, not Christians, hold the records for most killing. Even Hitler abandoned God, sold art, went vegetarian and killed Christians.

I answer you yet you have 0 answers to fascism!

Demand a refund on your EDU; you are too stupid to debate Republicans.

jim #racist

You really have to scratch your head and wonder if the Jews are not manically suicidal.

They spent the first half of the 1900s murdering thirty plus Ukrainian farmers through starvation and real death camps in Siberia, murdered at least another fifty million Russians through abortion, war and those wonderful Siberian death camps, burned down thousands of Orthodox Christian churches and basically forbid worship of God, and now surround them with nuclear weapons while imposing harsh economic sanctions.

It is very hard to believe that Russians in general like Israhell or Jews at all.

The Jews gave China Chairman Mao, who murdered close to eighty million Chinese, forbid religion and kicked all the peasants off their farms, so they could all be slaves in work camp factories.

They caused both World Wars, are surrounding Russia and China with nuclear weapons stationed in military bases, have ratcheted up the anti Russian and Chinese propaganda to an insane degree, and are pushing as hard as is possible to start a full scale nuclear exchange.

If you see what is happening in Europe lately with the filthy Africans migrating in, plus the totally expected horror in France today, you really have to wonder how much longer before every civilized human on Earth does not completely hate the God damned Jews.

What is most amazing is how only one megaton fusion bomb detonated two miles above Ramallah would essentially end all Jewish life in Israhell, and they somehow expect to go unscathed from all this soon to come mayhem.

Their other centers of concentration, such as NYC, LA and Chicago are most certainly going to be hit with a barrage of nuclear bombs, so what exactly is their contingency plan? If some of them scurry off into COGs waiting for the radioactive decay to die down, do they expect the goyim soldiers and populace in general to somehow bow down and worship them after the shtf?

The best case scenario is for Russia and the US to agree to wipe out Israhell and all cities around the world where the Jews are in high concentration, and then sit down and figure out real diplomacy for a peaceful world.

Unfortunately, that is not going to happen, so say your prayers. folks.

Jibaro #fundie

Josef Stalin, Mao Tse-Dung, Adolph Hitler and Pol Pot are all tyrannical megalomaniacs who together killed more than 100 MILLION human beings in less than 50 years.
All have one thing in common besides breathing air:
They held EVOLUTION to be a fact.

WorldGoneCrazy #fundie

Here is a secular proof for the existence of Hell, your future home should you not repent:

1. Every natural innate human desire has a corresponding satisfying object in reality. (e.g., thirst has the object of water, hunger has the object of food, etc)

2. All humans possess a natural innate desire for objective moral justice to be satisfied.

3. Therefore, objective moral justice exists.

4. In some cases, objective moral justice is not satisfied in this lifetime. (e.g., Hitler, Stalin, Mao, unrepentant abortion "doctors," abortuary deathscorts, etc)

5. Therefore, objective moral justice is achieved in an afterlife.

6. Therefore, Hell exists.

What will it take for you to admit you were on the wrong side of the world’s worst holocaust in human history? Look in those dishes – those are the arms and legs and heads of dead babies floating there. If that is not enough to turn your heart, what is?!? What WILL it take?

Unknown author #fundie

Most of the time, scientists are not liars and are genuinely trying to discover and understand the laws of the universe. But whenever scientists are confronted with anything that has to do with God or evolution, then scientists on the whole always lie to us and they are brazen about it.

For example, until 1956, scientists falsely claimed that humans and apes had the same number of chromosomes and therefore humans evolved from apes. But the fact is, humans actually have 23 pairs of chromosomes while apes have 24 pairs of chromosomes. Apes, gorillas, chimpanzees, orangutans, etc. all have more chromosomes than humans.

During the first half of the 20th century, that fact would have seriously weakened “ape into human evolution theory” because there is no way to explain how apes, with 24 pairs of chromosomes, could have evolved into humans with 23 pairs of chromosomes. We all know that if we lose a pair of chromosomes, we cannot reproduce.

During the first half of the 20th century, there was a ferocious war between evolution theory and creationism and Darwin’s supporters were extremely hard pressed to “find the missing link.” Darwinians could not find the missing link so they simply fabricated one by faking the Piltdown Man skull.
Darwinians also were determined to hide any evidence that contradicted their beloved evolution theory. That is why atheist scientists simply concocted a lie and told us apes and humans both have 24 pairs of chromosomes.

An atheist scientist named Theophilus Painter took the lead and published a paper in 1921 claiming humans have 24 pairs of chromosomes. Other atheist scientists “confirmed” this in other scientific papers. It was not until 1956 that the fraud came to an end because evolution theory had gained enough support to not need to be buttressed by the 24 chromosome lie. The “apes and humans have the same number of chromosome lie” had done its damage to the truth - Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin, Mao Tse-Tung all pointed to the “24 chromosome lie” as a reason for them to ban the teaching of creationism from German, Russian and Chinese schools.

We bet you did not know that atheists claimed that “apes and humans have the same number of chromosomes.”

It is worthy to note that even now, scientists are prevaricating about this matter and they insist they did not lie to us about humans having 24 pairs of chromosomes. Instead they tell us they made an “understandable mistake” and it was very difficult to accurately count all the way up to 24 pairs of chromosomes.

It is absurd for atheists to assert that the counting of just 23 pairs of chromosomes was so difficult that none of them could do it correctly for over 30 years. Guess what? They had no trouble counting the much larger number of chromosomes for other animals, such as dogs who have 39 pairs.

Chet #conspiracy

The Biggest lie of all

Mr. President, it was you who on ABC News referenced "My Muslim Faith."

It was you who told an Islamic diner "I am one of you."

It was you who gave $90.42 million U.S. taxpayer funds to rebuild foreign mosques.

It was you who wrote that, in the event of a conflict "I will stand with the Muslims."

It was you who assured the Egyptian Foreign Minister that ""I am a Muslim."

It was you who bowed in submission before the Saudi King.

It was you who sat for 20 years in a Liberation Theology Church condemning Christianity and America while professing Marxism.

It was you who exempted Muslims from penalties under Obamacare that everyone else has to pay.

It was you who purposefully omitted "endowed by our Creator" from your recitation of The Declaration of Independence.

It was you who mocked the Bible and Jesus Christ's Sermon On the Mount while repeatedly referring to the 'Holy Quran'.

It was you who traveled the Islamic world denigrating the United States of America.

It was you who instantly threw the support of your administration behind the building of a 'Ground Zero Victory' mosque overlooking the hallowed crater of the World Trade Center.

It was you who refused to attend the National Prayer Breakfast, but hastened to host an Islamic Prayer Breakfast at the White House.

It was you who ordered both Georgetown Univ. and Notre Dame to shroud all vestiges of Jesus Christ BEFORE you would agree to go there to speak but, in contrast, you have NEVER requested that the mosques you have visited to adjust their decor.

It was you who appointed anti-Christian fanatics to your Czar Corps.

It was you who appointed rabid Islamists to the Homeland Security.

It was you who said that NASA's "foremost mission" was an outreach to Muslim communities.

It was you who, as an Illinois Senator, were the ONLY individual who would speak in favor of infanticide.

It was you who were the first President not to give a Christmas Greeting from the White House and went so far as to hang photos of Chairman Mao on the WH tree.

It was you who curtailed the military tribunals of Islamic terrorists.

It was you who refused to condemn the Ft. Hood killer as an Islamic terrorist.

It was you who refused to speak out concerning the horrific executions of women throughout the Muslim culture but yet have submitted Arizona to the UN for investigation of hypothetical human rights abuses.

It was you who, when queried in India, refused to acknowledge the true extent of radical global Jihadists and instead profusely praised Islam in a country that is 82% Hindu and the victim of numerous Islamic terrorist assaults.

It was you who funneled $813.74 million in U.S. taxpayer dollars to Hamas.

It was you who ordered the USPS to honor a Muslim holiday with a new commemorative stamp.

It was you who directed our UK Embassy to conduct outreach to help 'empower' the British Muslim community.

It was you who embraced the fanatical Muslim Brotherhood in your quest to overthrow the Egyptian President, Hosni Mubarak.

It was you who funded mandatory Arabic language and culture studies in grammar schools across our country.

It is you who follows the Muslim custom of not wearing any form of jewelry during Ramadan.

It is you who departs for Hawaii over the Christmas season so as to avoid past criticism for not participating in seasonal White House religious events.

It was you who was uncharacteristically quick to join the chorus of the Muslim Brotherhood to depose Egypt's Hosni Mubarak, formerly America's strongest ally in North Africa; buy remain muted in your non-response to the Brotherhood led slaughter of Egyptian Christians and destruction of Coptic Christian churches.

It was you who appointed, as your chief adviser, Valerie Jarrett, who is an avowed member of the Muslim Sisterhood, an off-shoot of the Muslim Brotherhood.

Yes, Barack Obama, it is you who is a socialist Islamist. Continuing in your quest to 'completely transform America'.

It Was, and Is, YOU! The evidence is clear for all except for the blind, deaf and stupid.

WorldGoneCrazy #fundie

A secular ontological proof of the existence of your future home, lest you repent:

1. Every natural innate human desire has a corresponding satisfying object in reality. (e.g., thirst has the object of water, hunger has the object of food, love has the object of persons and dogs, like me :-), knowledge has the object of reality perceived through our five senses plus the enormous complexity-resolving hardware and software of our brain, etc) (observation and human experience)

2. Humans possess a natural innate desire for objective moral justice to be satisfied. (human psychology; in fact, this desire is so strong that even many atheists will utter the phrase “Go to Hell”)

3. Therefore, objective moral justice exists. (1,2 Modus Ponens)

4. If objective moral justice exists, then it exists for everyone – otherwise, it would not be objective, moral, or justice. (definition of objective moral justice)

5. Therefore, objective moral justice exists for everyone. (4,3 Modus Ponens)

6. If objective moral justice exists for everyone, then it must exist in this life or a potential afterlife for everyone. (complete disjunction on potential human existence)

7. Therefore, objective moral justice must exist in this life or an afterlife for everyone. (6,5 Modus Ponens)

8. For some persons, objective moral justice is not satisfied in this lifetime. (e.g., Hitler, Stalin, Mao, unrepentant abortion "doctors," abortuary deathscorts, etc) (observation regarding heinous atrocities whose perpetrators never received OMJ in this life)

9. Therefore, for some persons, objective moral justice is satisfied in an afterlife. (simple cancellation)

10. Therefore, objective moral justice exists in an afterlife, i.e., Hell exists. (existential generalization)

(Special thanks to the following atheist-agnostics, and others unnamed, who provided constructive criticisms helping me to identify hidden steps: Elie, markb, Unrepentant Atheist, and Disqusdmnj. Any remaining errors are mine and mine alone.)

pjpoconnell #fundie

Attention all posters:

Notable religious believers of the 20th century:

Mohandas Gandhi
Pope John XXIII
Mother Teresa
Martin Luther King
Dalai Lama

Notable atheists of the 20th century:

Adolf Hitler
Josef Stalin
Mao Zedong
Pol Pot

The choice is yours.

The Black Sun 666 #conspiracy

The Jews infiltrate every source of Gentile power they can. From the inside, they either gain total control or they seek to rot it out and destroy it, through corruption.

The Jewish NWO is a world slave state, headed and run by the Jews. This NWO is the exact opposite of what was intended by the original Freemasons who were Gentiles:

1. The Jewish messiah in the form of "Jesus" (A sympathetic magick connection of where all of the Christian prayers and psychic energy has been shafted into) will unite the Jews and establish a one world government communist state run out of Israel (Stolen from the Palestinians, based upon the fictitious history of the Jews in the Bible, and especially selected because of its being at the crossroads of the three major continents of Europe, Africa, and Asia, and centered upon powerful ley lines) where the Jews will have total rule and control over the Gentiles of every nation, culture, and race of the world.

2. People will be bar-coded like cattle (the meaning of the derogatory Jewish word "goyim" for Gentiles) are branded to ensure this total control. Microchip implants are another possibility to ensure Gentiles can be tracked like animals.

3. All spiritual knowledge will be systematically removed from the Gentile populace (The true goals of both Christianity and Communism) through mass murder and torture as was done during the Inquisition and recently (1950’s) as Chinese Communist Chairman Mao Tse-Tung marched on Tibet and burned their monasteries and slaughtered and tortured to death their religious leaders. Tibet, because of its seclusion in the Himalayan Mountains contained much in the way of ancient doctrines of the original spiritual teachings, long before the arrival of Judaism, Christianity, and their cohorts.

4. Spiritual knowledge and occult power will firmly be in the hands of the Jews for total world control.

5. Nearly all uninvolved, lukewarm, and neutral Jews will only be too glad to join this new ruling class of their brethren should the time come.

6. The race-mixing program will further erase all racial and cultural identities for total control. With a loss of self through the destruction of racial and cultural identity, history can be rewritten any way the Jews see fit. They have been doing this for ages, unbeknownst to the majority of the Gentile populace. This has already been done with Satanism (Humanity's Original Religion), where the original teachings, Priests, Priestesses, other spiritual leaders and people with knowledge, along with libraries were systematically destroyed. The Christian Church has been at liberty to define Satanism any way the see fit, given there is little remaining of the past in regards to knowledge and truth. The Bible is nothing more than a fabricated history of the Jewish people of which they never had. Because of the mass indoctrination and force fed beliefs, the mass mind has created a powerful thoughtform that has aided the Jewish people in their quest for world takeover.

7. Human beings will be nothing more than lost souls with no identity, freedom, knowledge or individuality; just a number in total service of a Jewish run slave state.

The above is completely opposite from the intended NWO of the original Freemasons who were Gentiles. Unfortunately, again, this is playing both sides against the middle for total control. Modern rituals in Freemasonry which are geared to the second coming of that filthy messiah and a fusion of all religions of the world are now quite different from those years ago upon which the records have been removed and sealed in secrecy.

EvolaDidNothingWrong #wingnut #quack

Literally all socialist dictators supported vaccinating people.

Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Castro, Hoxha, Tito, Sankara, Machel, Kim Jong-Un, Maduro ECT ECT....

Seriously, what is your response to this? You REALLY want to keep practicing a human rights violation that literally all totalitarian shitholes and failed states supported?

oH nOoo

Did you know all these dictators also liked to breathe air? Air is a human rights violatioooon!

If breathing air was a socialist policy then yes we would all have to stop breathing air. But breathing air is not a policy at all, so it's perfectly optional.

It was a socialist policy that "murder is illegal" MURDER IS NOW LEGAL AND GOOD

You are literally the biggest mass murderer of all time. You have massacred even more normal people than Mao, Stalin, and Lenin combined, for the simple fact that you promote that ideology that has exterminated over 225 million normal people in less than a century making you the accomplice in all of their horrible murders. They all died merely so that you could maintain your vile, disgusting Marxist utopia. Your ideology has contributed nothing but misery to the male gender, and anarchist punks like Nedjelko Cabrinovic have only instigated your quest to genocide millions of innocent whites. You should have no right to speak freely. If your teaching were to be accepted as the foundation of the life of the universe, it would lead to the disappearance of all order that is conceivable to the human mind. And thus the adoption of such a law would provoke chaos in the structure of the greatest organism that we know, with the result that the inhabitants of this earthly planet would finally disappear. Should you socialists, with the aid of your Marxist creed, triumph over the men of this world, your crown will be the funeral wreath of mankind, and this planet will once again follow its orbit through ether, without any life on its surface, as it did billions of years ago.

WorldGoneCrazy #fundie

(after being told, "you're incredibly patronizing, I hope you know that.")

That's an objective moral claim that a materialist cannot make without stealing from God. I'm quite sure there are plenty of animals in the kingdom who are equally or more so patronizing (lots of rape going on there - that is plenty patronizing!) and most a-theists (the dash is to remind a-theists that they share a burden of proof) believe that we are nothing more than animals. So, you are welcome to call me "patronizing," and you are arguably correct; nevertheless, you have to leave Darwinism behind and steal from God to ground that, so the least you could do is to thank Him for it. Go ahead: thank the God you deny for allowing you to steal from Him. :-)

"I'm positive a country has never communally considered something moral or immoral that outsiders would disagree with, except perhaps when it comes to warring with other nations."

That is the most ridiculous statement I have ever read in my life! You ignore all of world history: Hitler, Mao, Stalin, the mass slaughters throughout world history. And, again, you cannot talk about "moral" or "immoral" in any sort of objective sense without stealing from God. One man's morality is another man's immorality - you should know that by now. You are an a-theist: "morality" is nothing more than a preference in your worldview, like eating vanilla ice cream versus chocolate.

Angelos #fundie

Some might want to address some of your other rants, but this one I had to repost. What about Hitler, Communism and Nazism?

Among the most bitter fruits of evolutionism are the unspeakably cruel systems fathered by Karl Marx (followed by Engels, Lenin, Stalin, Mao, etc.) and by Adolf Hitler (who was building on the ideas of Nietzsche and Haeckel and others). It is arguable whether communism (with its anarchist and socialist cousins) or Nazism (with Mussolini's fascism and similar dictatorships) have produced the greater amounts of death and suffering in the world, but both were and are vile and deadly.

It is very significant, therefore, that both Marx and Hitler, with all their respective forbears, associates and successors, were doctrinaire evolutionists, trying to build their respective societies on evolutionary premises. There is abundant documentation of this assessment and, in fact, few would even question it.

Ben Kinchlow #fundie

I have a couple of questions for the atheists, agnostics, evolutionists and secular humanists: Since there are more “religious” people than you and you want to eliminate us, why can’t we just eliminate you first? Isn’t that what Hitler did to some 10 million people he felt did not contribute to the plan he deemed best for society? (Let the record show, I am not advocating, merely asking.) Is what Hitler, Mao, Stalin did “wrong?” Why?

Ted Baehr #fundie

“Neither the court, the state, the president, the Congress, nor even the voters have the right to legalize same-sex marriage,” Baehr says. “It violates the First Amendment of the United States Constitution, which states that Congress can’t deny anyone the freedom to worship.

“Marriage and family are religious institutions ordained by God,” he adds. “And the civil government owes its existence the consent of the governed, not the other way around, in the tradition of the Magna Carta.

“Furthermore, since Samuel Rutherford wrote Lex, Rex, which clarified the rule of law posited by the Magna Carta, all of these forms of government have been under God’s law in the United Kingdom and the United States of America. When king or ruler is above the law, he often acts in imperious and dictatorial ways, for the very nature of power is to corrupt the powerful, unless it is restrained by God’s law. Constitutionally, therefore, the courts can’t tell any Jew, any Christian or any church or synagogue who can and cannot be married.”

Baehr notes that the idea to abolish marriage and the family comes from The Communist Manifesto by Karl Marx and Frederich Engels, which produced such mass-murdering tyrants as Lenin, Stalin, Mao Tse Tung and Castro.

Rick Wiles & Steve Quayle #fundie

On yesterday’s edition of “Trunews,” End Times broadcasters Rick Wiles and Steve Quayle got together for a discussion of whether “world leaders [are] preparing for a global Ebola plague.” The interview drifted into a conversation about Israel’s role in the Last Days, with the commentators warning that President Obama’s foreign policy will lead to a war against Israel. Wiles asked: “Steve, do you believe that Barack Obama is a potential mass murderer on the scale of Stalin, Mao Zedong, Pol Pot?” “Yes,” Quayle said. “I think he will supersede them all.”

HisDaughterJen #conspiracy

No, it's no joke. The school system has partnered with the COMMUNIST government of China FOR MONEY and knowingly foisted their propaganda upon AMERICAN schoolchildren! The COMMUNIST government of China has been criticized for calling their program "Confucius" Institute because the COMMUNIST Chairman MAO despised Confucionism. It's another "slight of hand" LIE to insidiously GET into places that they aren't normally allowed into.

Ok, I'm sick of mentally-deranged liberal FREAKS calling people racist! It is not racist to not want communism OR Islam in our schools, in our hallowed places or their brand of "peace" in our community. This is AMERICA and this armed republic will fight to defend it! The only way your twisted globalist agenda is going to "win" is if you join forces with the DEVIL after the born again Christians are gone! Then, those who followed it are going to burn in hell for eternity.

No, this is not a joke at all.

DO YOU have any idea what that HELL-BOUND Communist Government in China does to Christians?

Ann Coulter #fundie

Sorry this column is late. I got raped again on the way home. Twice. I should clarify -- by "raped," I mean that two seductive Barry White songs came on the radio, which, according to the University of Virginia, constitutes rape.


Even the feminist-whipped media parted company with Rolling Stone magazine over Sabrina Rubin Erdely's story about an alleged fraternity gang-rape at the University of Virginia -- since retracted.

But while dismantling every part of this preposterous rape claim by a woman Rolling Stone calls "Jackie," journalists rush to assure us that "sexual assault at colleges and universities is indeed a serious problem," as an article in Slate put it.

It would be as if Republicans responded to the apocryphal attack on McCain volunteer Ashley Todd in 2008 by saying, "Physical assaults on McCain volunteers by Obama supporters are indeed a serious problem."

If we're in the middle of a college-rape epidemic, why do all the cases liberals promote keep turning out to be hoaxes? Maybe I'm overthinking this, but wouldn't a real rape be more persuasive?

Instead, all the hair-on-fire college rape stories have been scams: the Duke lacrosse team's gang-rape of a stripper; Lena Dunham's rape by Oberlin College's "resident Republican," Barry; and Rolling Stone's fraternity gang-rape at UVA. Two of the three were foisted on the public -- and disproved in public -- only in the last few weeks.

The only epidemic sweeping the nation seems to be Munchausen rape syndrome. What's next, college noose hoaxes?

Even Lady Gaga recently claimed she was raped, although, she admitted: "I didn't even tell myself for the longest time." How do you not "tell" yourself you've been raped?

Rolling Stone's fantasist rape victim told The Washington Post she didn't report her rape or go to the hospital because "she was new to campus and unaware of the resources available to her."

Unaware of the "resources"? Has she heard of "911"?

Who doesn't report a brutal crime? I had my right arm sawed off by an attacker several years ago, but I was unaware of the resources available to me, so I never pressed charges. I didn't even admit it to myself until several years later.

Although Jackie had spoken about her rape at a "Take Back the Night" rally, she told the Post that if Rolling Stone's Erdely hadn't approached her, "I probably would not have gone public about my rape."

Except for being imaginary, Jackie's rape should have been easy to prove. In addition to the fact that she would have been a bloody mess, it was supposed to have happened at a fraternity. That narrows the suspect pool down from "anyone who was in the Charlottesville, Virginia, area on Sept. 28, 2012" to "40 specific guys, 20 percent of whom are, by definition, guilty of rape."

The zealots aren't backing down from Jackie's Lifetime Movie-of-the-Week rape fantasy, even as every single part of it is proved untrue. Her "close friends," The Washington Post reports, insist that "something traumatic happened to her."

Similarly, Rolling Stone authoress Erdely told Slate, "There's no doubt in my mind that something happened to her that night" based on "the degree of (Jackie's) trauma." After all, she's been diagnosed with post-traumatic stress disorder and is taking antidepressants!

Another explanation for her trauma is: Jackie is a nut. Have you considered the possibility that your protagonist is out of her mind?

(The fact that Erdely is an "award-winning" investigative journalist tells you everything you need to know about modern journalism. Of course, her one award was from Rape Hoax Monthly, which should have been a tip-off.)

College must be difficult for white, straight coeds, because it's so hard to be a victim. You're not black, you're not gay, you don't have leprosy -- what can you do to acquire victim cool? Join the rape club!

On college campuses, two millennia of Anglo-Saxon law has been scrapped in deference to sexual assault doctrines that would embarrass Chairman Mao. Young men's futures are being put in the hands of the most closed-minded, reason-free, quick-to-accuse, unfair, standardless humans on Earth.

I'm sorry we were popular in high school! Can you stop accusing us of rape now?

In penance for publishing a book that falsely accused Oberlin's Barry of rape, Random House offered to pay his legal fees, suggesting that his law firm "donate all of the crowd-funding raised (to sue Random House) to not-for-profit organizations assisting survivors of rape and sexual assault."

Heads: rape hoax hysterics win; tails: men falsely accused of rape lose. How about donating it to organizations that assist survivors of false rape accusations?

The main threat to college students' physical and emotional safety these days comes not from athletes or fraternity members, but from the feminists.

Brenton Bills #fundie

@David Bennington:

Having stated your opinion, let's list off just a short sample of people, starting with those who disagree with you: George Washington, John Adams, John Jay, James Madison, Alexander Hamilton, Thomas Jefferson, Samuel Adams, Noah Webster, etc., etc. Now for those who agree with your belief that we need a "wholly secular state:" Adolf Hitler, V.I. Lenin, Josef Stalin, Mao Tse-Tung, Kim Il-Sung, and Saloth Sar (better known as Pol Pot).

That's one heck of a like-minded group of comrades, eh David?

As for me, I throw my lot in with the first group. Some quotes from them:
"Reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principle."
-George Washington
"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."
-John Adams
"The greatest glory of the American Revolution was this: It connected in one indissoluble bond, the principles of civil government with the principles of Christianity."
-John Quincy Adams
"No power over the freedom of religion [is] delegated to the United States by the Constitution."
-Thomas Jefferson

Mychal Massie #conspiracy

The question is: "Exactly what kind of person is Obama?" At first blush, the simple answer would be that he is the worst kind of human being - the kind who is willing to lie and betray without remorse as long as his lies and betrayal get him what he wants. He is a shell of a human being, consumed by the hauntings of his socio-inadequate childhood and the most dysfunctional, hate-filled, delusional, ersatz couple for parents a child could have short of being an offspring of a parentage between Idi Amin and Emma Goldman.

In my syndicated opinion piece "Darth Democrat" (Nov. 16, 2004), I wrote, "Obama embraces the darkest interests of the uber-liberal socialist." Specific to that point is the question of why Obama came into office committed to the idea that "his" government should take over one-sixth of the national economy in the form of Obamacare. Where did the idea come from, and why was it such a fixation for him?

Once again, the simple answer would be that government-controlled healthcare is a hallmark of socialism. While there is a galaxy of empirical evidence that Obama is a hardcore neo-Leninist (i.e., a hybrid of Marx, Mao, Stalin and Lenin) who has since long ago shed his Fabianism, I believe there is still more.

Even beyond Obama's epic and exposed lies pursuant to his, in effect, sanctioning the murder of four Americans (Ambassador Stevens, Sean Smith, Tyrone Woods, Glen Doherty) in Benghazi for reasons that would have, and still can, destroy him, Obama took lying about Obamacare to depths that make the lies of Presidents Nixon and Bill Clinton appear as bedtime stories.


He knows that he is an empty suit who found he could prostitute his skin color for free rides. But like most of his kind, when they find themselves in positions of prominence they realize they are frauds and the secret haunts them. Add the dysfunctional parentage and family setting he grew up within, and we understand that he lies as a means to make a damaged person puff himself up to be what he isn't. Lying has become his first language because his true opinion of himself is one he cannot stomach.

His grandparents forced him into a mentorship with Frank Marshall Davis who was a rabid communist and pedophile, and although it hasn't been proven, if as I and others suspect, that led to young Obama being sexually molested. The feelings of worthlessness that would understandably bring about combined with a sense of betrayal by his grandparents (who brought Davis into his life) and feelings of abandonment by his biological parents, which allowed for the betrayal by his grandparents, which led to more feelings of abandonment, anger, and worthlessness. This resulted in an unstable and volatile person unfit for office.

Kent Hovind #fundie

The adjectives used by some to describe Bill Nye include bright and energetic. History records lots of people who were “bright” and “energetic” but were WRONG. Hmmm? Let’s see: Hitler, Pol Pot, Stalin, Mao, Voltaire, Osama bin Laden to name a FEW who were zealous for the wrong cause. Let’s remember that “bright and energetic” does NOT = right!

TrueTruthseeker & hong kong phooey #fundie


Again any concrete evidence for evolution? All 'evidence' offered so far 'cannot hold water'. Differentiation and adaptation do NOT prove evolution. At best fossil finds
support a global deluge by virtue of petrification. The Bible is in fact silent re
the age of the earth itself, and does NOT specify an exact time in years for each creation period. Notice that "day" does not literally mean 24 hours, as used. The Bible does say however that each specie was created according to its kind. Show me a fossilized intermediate specie and I know it must be concocted. by TrueTruthseeker


show me the billions of years of impact craters

on the earth and the moon

how many times has the earth been hit by meteors

if it is billions of years then where are the impact craters

look at the moon

you will see some

but not enough

the earth is not that old

by hong kong phooey

Atheism = Nazism = Horrible (WARNING!) #fundie

Reasons why Atheism is TERRIBLE and unhealthy for our children and living things!

† Atheism makes you stupid, ignorant & blind.
† Atheism is a disease that needs to be treated.
† Atheism makes you post stupid things.
† Atheist are satanic and have gothic lifestyle.
† Atheists are mentally ill, that's why they have no faith.
† Atheism won't take you to kingdom of heaven and paradise.
† Atheism making you agree with Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot & other terrible mass murder leaders.
† No traditional family lifestyle, boring and feeling 'outsider'.
† Atheist try to convert people over internet because they feel "safer" behind closet.
† Atheists do not really exist, they just pretend that they don't believe in God and argue with religious people.
† Atheists have had terrible life experience, bad childhood and not being loved.
† Most Atheists are uneducated... No Atheists could run for presidency.
† Atheism brought upon the French Revolution, one of the most evil events of all of history.
† Atheism cannot explain the origins of the universe, therefore God exists.
† All atheists believe in evolution, which means they don't believe in morality and think we should all act like animals.
† The Bible says atheism is wrong, and the Bible is always right (see: Genesis 1:1, Psalms 14:1, Psalms 19:1, Romans 1:19-20)
† Atheism have no holidays, no culture, no nothing. Waste of living in this planet...

†† Our Prayers goes to Atheists to be healthy and seek their creator ††

cookcounty #fundie

["Some examples that religious folk have had trouble with over the years:

The earth moves.
Germs cause disease.
The earth is quite old."]

Oh, two can play this game: Some examples that irreligious folk have had trouble with over the years:

killing political opponents is wrong.
killing inconvenient friends is is wrong.
killing religious people is wrong.

The most famous atheists of all time, Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Kim Il Sung. and Pol Pot murdered more people than all the religious wars in history. Get out your calculator. Get out your history book. Add it up.

TFH #fundie


"You’d think that would mean that its readers would be humanitarian and compassionate,"

Why would anyone still think this?

Virtually all genocides are derived by leftists. Hitler, Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot, etc. This is because leftism views economics as zero sum, hence the killing of unwanted people is a way to have more resources for those who are allowed to live (the favored group).

Modern leftism (global warming, feminism) is all about exterminating the groups that leftists don’t like. They claim to be ‘compassionate’ so as to mask their evil. Anyone who supports current laws like VAWA and child support is ‘compassionate’, and thus MRAs by definition are ‘evil’, under that standard.

And yes, Hitler was left-wing. Don’t buy into the leftist myth that he was right wing. The Nazi party was a socialist party, that nationalized many sectors of the economy.

Tyler V #fundie

[On whether Barack Obama may be an atheist]

Yeah, I’d hope for agnostic. Atheistic leaders dont have the best track record… Stalin, Mao, Hoxsa, Cruschev, Castro… I guess it has something to do with the whole denial of the basis for the universal and inalienable human value, dignity, and rights. Easier to trample all over people when you see them as the “unfit” rather than image bearers.

[“Easier to trample all over people when you see them as the “unfit” rather than image bearers.”
I think you are confusing atheist, with social Darwinist.]

so an atheist can pick and choose when evolution is involved? arent we an evolved species? wouldnt we have fit/unfit species? isnt it in the best interest of the species to eliminate the unfit from the breed? so evolution is the controlling factor of life on earth… except when its not…?

Ilana Mercer #fundie

The Left has vanquished America—the gaseous media strumpets and their papal “experts” certainly give that impression, in their coverage of the arrival of Pope Francis. One of these venal types on CNN has just ventured that Pope John Paul criticized capitalism as much as he did communism, therefor justifying Pope Francis’ folly.

Sacrilegious nonsense.

Capitalism is the moral right to make a living freely and voluntarily, absent coercion, and by relying on the rule of law and the sanctity of private property, the latter beginning with individual self-ownership:

This philosophical, moral wonder has lifted millions out of poverty.

Now capitalism is being juxtaposed to a system chosen by leading lights like Joseph Stalin, Mao Zedong and Pol Pot, to best justify the centrally planned slaughter of over 100 million people the world over and the enslaving of many more.
If this is not yet more proof that the Left has vanquished America, I don’t know what is.

Anonymous Commenter #fundie

The post, “I wouldn't want my child to read the bible unsupervised anyway, too many passages with mass killings and other mayhem.” sounds prejudicial. While there are some confusing passages in the bible, a parent can readily relay (or provide a study guide) the overriding positive message of the bible in terms of salvation, care for the poor, social justice, etc. In contrast, look at the killings that atheistic regimes (Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot) have brought to society in the last 100 years, not to mention that secular-driven abortion policies annually kill 46 million worldwide! Which future vision do you want for your children?

Free Criticism #fundie

I am personally inclined to accept the transwoman over the homosexual, or more accurately, I am more inclined to accept the autogynephile over the homosexual. I think there is a reason the homosexual was integrated into imperialism first, and there seems to be a struggle in the ranks of the bourgeoisie over the integration of autogynephiles.

Even though I am inclined to accept autogynephiles over the homosexuals, I freely admit I think the radical feminists have pegged them pretty accurately. The autogynephile does have the mind of the rapist, or rather, the sexual fantasies of the autogynephile tend toward extreme submission of the female. There is an article where a feminist recounts her experience as a phone sex operator talking to men who we would know recognize as having autogynephilia, and she points out none of these men ever fantasized about becoming a woman and dominating other men with their new vaginas. Their sexual fantasies are always playing the submissive, and clearly “Stefonknee” is no different.

I would say the integration of the autogynephile is basically a confirmation of the rape-culture thesis. Basically the Oppressor Man and his Oppressor Woman force the Homo-Fascist (the white gay male in charge of the LGBTQ alphabet-soup in the West) to integrate the autogynephile because they get-off on autogynephilic sexual fantasies. Not all women, but a lot of them do have rape fantasies. The rape fantasies of women aren’t exactly like the sexual thoughts of the autogynephile. The rape fantasies of some straight women are usually more narcissistic; the man is raping me because he is overcome with lust for me and must possess me now. This fantasy is still focused on the hyper-exaggerated erotic mental state of the male rapist. The submission fantasies of the autogynephile are being in the act of submission itself, having really nothing to do with imagining the erotic mental states of their would-be sexual partners.

In that sense, the sexual thoughts of the autogynephile are closer to straight men than any woman. It is probably easiest for the straight man to sympathize with the autogynephile, especially any straight man who has every constructed an elaborately detailed feminine fantasy object for masturbation purposes. The difference seems to be one of identification with the feminine fantasy object, or in the case of the autogynephile, perhaps even a lack of imagination on the erotic mental states of actual women.

In any case, from my previous experience working with LGBTQ people in student activism, I am inclined to believe anti-transwoman sentiment is because the homosexual male doesn’t want to really integrate this identity into the LGBTQ alpha-bet soup they control. The male homosexual sees the autogynephile as a homosexual with a mental disorder. If this is true, I suspect the real difference between the male homosexual and the autogynephile relates to the onset of the sexual imagery. The homosexual male begins identifying with the feminine fantasy object earlier on, even before the onset of puberty, while the autogynephile is a post-puberty version of the same sort of internal fantasies. The continuity here is best evidenced by the androphilic transwoman, who in another context would develop into a ‘normal’ male homosexual. The male homoseuxal sees this an understands what he could have been forced to become, given another cultural context, and fears the integration of the transwomen because it could lead to the extinction of his identity, given a profound shift in political/cultural values.

Lastly, the androphilic transwomen actually desires straight men, seeing ‘normal’ homosexuals as too effeminate to desire sexual encounters with. While they are really homosexuals, they don’t actually desire other homosexuals. In some way, this leads to a divergence of how the two types of homosexual construct their sexuality. The androphillic (homosexual) transwomen desires straight men, while the homosexual can either desire masculine men or they can fetishize other homosexuals (this seems to be the most common). The most extreme form of the fetishizing other homosexuals can be seen in the bug-chasing fantasy. The homosexual with the bug-chasing fantasy fetishes the male homosexual with aids as the ultimate male-slut, and begins to resemble the straight male slut/virgin binary that is more commonly known about.

Myself, I believe Marxist-Leninists must return to an anti-homosexual view, a view that has been held by Marx, Engels, Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Hoxha, etc. If this means an alliance with the transwoman, autogynephile and/or androphilic, so be it. However, we should not be under any illusions about the nature of their identities. Ideally, in the imperialist oppressor nations, after a revolution, the LGTBQ pyramid will be restructed, with the male homosexuals at the very bottom. The queer-theorist autogynephiles will be near the top of the hierarchy, followed by the female bisexual, then the male bisexual. Some politically acceptable form of lesbianism will police it, but will be directly answerable to the party.

Gregory Palamas #fundie

I know it is convenient for an Atheist to claim all sorts of things until they are pinned down intellectually. Then they switch and deny all responsibility. Clearly, Hitler, Stalin, and Mao were Atheists. There has never been a more bloodthirsty trio in history. Before them one must go back to the original modern Atheists and to the end of the eighteenth century and to France. Clearly the twentieth century is the bloodiest century in history and clearly Atheism must take the bulk of the blame for that. That century produced more Christian martyrs than any century in history

David J. Stewart #fundie

Charles Darwin was a high-level Freemason and Luciferian-worshipper. Darwin's theories on evolution were nothing more than fraudulent so-called “scholarship” intended to form the basis for dehumanizing mankind in order to murder millions. In 1775, The Order Of The Illuminati founder, Adam Weishaupt (1748-1830), revealed a blueprint for world government. In order to succeed, a sinister ideal was required to reduce humans to the level of cattle to be slaughtered. The infamous father of 20th century communism, Karl Marx (1818-1883), published his Communist Manifesto in 1848, which reiterated Weishaupt's blueprint for world government.

Tragically, it was Darwin's very philosophies that would consequently inspire the brutal murder of 100,000,000 people during the 20th century. Monstrous dictators: Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, Mao and PolPot were all devout followers of Charles Darwin's evolutionary theories, because they lowered human beings to the mere level of animals to be taken and destroyed on a whim.

John Buchanan #fundie

Thank God for Trump. He is the only Republican candidate in a generation that truly stands for conservative Republican values. Like it or not, the truth is that a large majority of the American public has become worthless and even worse, a burden on our precious national assets -- the blacks, Hispanics, women, gays, lesbians, the elderly, the sick and infirmed, the "chronically unemployed" (which means the real losers), the "mentally challenged" (retarded). The list goes on and on. Add to that long list of inferior U.S. citizens the 20-30 million illegals we have (the real number covered up by the press) and we have a dysfunctional society that must be purged (to borrow a term from Stalin and Mao) before we implode. Only Trump has the courage and "management skills" to cut out the cancers in our great nation. Then, of course, there are the Muslims and the "transgenders." But i don't even want to talk about them. They're disgusting -- and must be interned or deported along with the illegals and the "inferiors." Then those of us who have worked so hard for so long to earn our places in the much-maligned 1% can feel good again about our country. But not until then. It's Trump all the way! Let's make the USA the USA again -- a nation of rich, white men with REAL power and all the cash.

fschmidt #fundie

[Commenting on "How do Christians, Jews, Muslims, & Mormons worship a God that has committed the worst atrocities in history"]

Most people are scum. I love a god who wipes out scum.

(Gods perception of scum, is that a bit like Pol pot, Stalin, Hitler, Mao Tse Tung.)

No. Hitler perceived scum based on race. The rest, communists, perceived scum based on economic class. These are wrong. God perceived scum based on based on culture. This is right.

savagesusie #fundie

If there is no God—there are no Absolute Laws—Universal Truths or Natural Rights from God. We had this ideology of Universal Truths since Plato which culminated with Christianity in American jurisprudence. Higher Law than man’s and Natural Rights from God.

Atheism creates people like Voltaire’s Atheists-—the French Revolutionaries—who did some of the grossest things in history—desecrated the dead, headless bodies and arranged them in sexual positions—Atheist humor is really Satanic and evil and full of excrement and orgies.

Lenin and Stalin and Mao’s Atheism just killed tens of millions and Hitler’s occultist/homosexual paganism killed millions. Oh goody-—such superior ideology when they kick out the Judeo/Christian God.

I would only allow Atheists to be second class citizens since they do not believe we have Natural Rights from God. As such—they are extremely dangerous and deranged because they think they can take our Natural Rights away and force unjust laws which promote Vice-—like the Godless in chief in the WH.

Anonymous Coward #fundie

where do atheists get their morals from?

Atheists dont believe in God who would punish sinners so technically they dont have a fear of punishment. An atheist could murder an entire Christian family and laugh it off because his thought process is "there is no God"...... "survival of the fittest"......"the christian family I killed were just naturally selected out of the gene pool". They have complete lack of conscience because of their belief system. Thats why the WORST mass murderers in history were men who did not believe in God, thats why atheists mass murdered tens of millions of peoppe. In their minds they felt like they were squashing bugs. And they did their crimes with no fear of the repurcussions.

Ironically The few good atheists act under the influence of christianity. The reason that not all atheists are mass murderers is because of the positive influence of christianity on peoples subconscious. Without that influence all atheists would be like Stalin and Mao and would have killed all of us.

Atheism teaches NO morals.

Bob IN CHRIST #fundie

"Son, it is not too late! My God COMMANDS me to go unto the wicked (EZ 3:19) and "break heads" for Him. You have a lot of hatred in you, but can you LOVE??? Or are you just one of those who thinks that "love" is to be found in a bath-house with a line of all your "buddies"? Is not AIDS PROOF that God has had it with the wicked (EZ 33:8) and you are going to die screaming, like a scared little girl? Just wait until you get to Hell, Mr. Cale! THEN the real fun starts- but not for you! There are no trees to hug and there is none of your "happy pills" that you take to escape the truth of DEATH! None of that is in HELL! It is a BAD place, Hombre, and you will be there with all those who have denied Him and fornicated with thousands in despicable calumies against His Word and perhaps you can have a nice, cool glass of ice-water with Hitler and Stalin and Mao and Mother Teresa and maybe Bill Clinton will be there too- SHOCKED Mr. Cale? The Cult of Mary is no path to heaven, only Jesus is (JO 18:37) and that wicked whore of Baal will be there right with the adulturer and hater of virtue Slick Willie! But there will be NO ice water to slake your thirst- SATAN will laugh and you will cry but FOREVER you wicked venal black hearted child of wickedness!

GET SAVED Mr. Cale- repent, and repent HARD! Be honest and for true or...YOU'LL BE SORRY!!!!!!!!

And no matter what, I'mmaking it my business to get this trash off of the Internet. Free speech? Give me a break. Look at the Courts, Mr. Cale- WE'RE WINNING! Your "freedom" is numbered in days. I'm going to shut you down and prosecuted to boot! COUNT ON IT SLIME!

You have been warned. Now GET THEE TO JESUS, do not pass go, do not collect $200- WAKE UP AND BE IN HIS GLORY AND JOIN ME IN HIS AFTERLIFE!!!!!!!!!"

[this is just half of the post, by the way; the rest is basically more of the same]

Emily B #fundie

Emily B overcame major “computer” challenges and remained a loyal TTT member, her thoughts:

It’s been a blessing to be on the TTT committee with so many great Americans. As my first experience reviewing I felt it was an opportunity to make a difference in the lives of millions of school children. It did take time but it was worth every minute. I homeschooled my own children in the seventies and have seen a rapid decline in material available. Some of the more shocking entries in the five textbooks I reviewed include the following:

The United States is a democracy, evolution is a fact, Islam taught the equality of all before Allah, Allah is the Universal Lord, Muslims repressed hatred, Muslims were not prepared for the barbarity of the Christian Crusades, Muhammad raised the status of women, Muslims respect the contributions of Jesus, Muslims repressed hatred and Islamic civilization surpassed Europe in skilled artisans, sciences and medicine.

On a political note: possible sexual improprieties on the president’s part referring to Bill Clinton, abortion demonstrators were depicted as peaceful while pro-lifers were violent and bomb throwers, Democrats viewed as positive, Republicans as flawed, Planned Parenthood given a good report, population explosion was out of control, excessive condemnation of Europeans and Americans concerning slave trade, “it’s easy to get depressed about climate change”, in a free enterprise system producers are motivated by self-interest, 9/11 terrorist not identified as Islamic, and commercial drilling in Mexico is risky, It can cause earthquakes.

Mao, Hitler, Stalin, and Marx are referred to as either successful or powerful leaders. Very little said about their brutal mentality and murderous escapades. In a time line, Russia is credited with winning the space race. No mention of America putting the first man on the moon. Gorbachev praised as beginning reform programs to end the Cold War. No mention of Reagan’s historic speech, “Mr. Gorbachev…” Hillary Clinton given a glowing report and Reagan not mentioned. (We were told the publishers “inadvertently” left out President Reagan).

Included in photos were four pictures of mosques with no pictures of churches, a picture of many country’s flags with no American flag, dead women and children strewn on a path in Viet Nam with the caption; “victims of American soldiers”. A series of videos were available including one titled “Are mites having sex on my face?” All videos were preceded by 30-60 second advertisements. A disturbing idea proposed in the last book promoted Common Core throughout including having the eleven year olds matched with adult pen-pals from around the world. What was left out was also surprising, for example in the discussion of the Alamo, Santa Anna was mentioned but not Bowie, Crockett or Houston.

Menushod #fundie

Historically speaking, not all communists and communist-led governments have been anti-"LGBT". What many of them have been is anti-homosexual male. Albania is a good example of a country that was hostile to the homosexual male, but not hostile to the lesbian.

In the 'American' context, the (white) homosexual male rules over the LGBTQ community. It is the white homosexual male who sets the political agenda of the group, and this has been clear to radical queer critics of the 'gay rights' movement. This is why the trans-woman has been marginalized for so long, and 'gay marriage' has been pushed to the forefront. The white homosexual male in 'America' wants bourgeois respectability, and only tolerates the other identities in the alphabet-soup as is politically necessary.

As the user /u/__Zeik__ has said, it is actually quite normal for communists to be anti-gay. If you wanted to go down the "revisionist" road, you could make a strong argument being pro-gay is form of revisionism. Marx, Engels, Lenin, Stalin and Mao were all anti-homosexual. Engels most explicitly so, and Lenin indirectly. Almost all communist-led governments have been anti-homosexual, with basically the exception of modern day Cuba (though they were historically anti-homosexual too). Even most communist parties that have significant mass-support are anti-homosexual, such as the KKE in Greece.

Beyond all that, the greatest attacks on the male homosexual identity came from queer theorists. Queer Theory is basically a body of work that deconstructs the idea that the male homosexual is born that way. This work should be seriously studied by Marxist-Leninists. People are not born homosexuals, they are turned into them somehow. In fact, there was no such thing as a homosexual until fairly recently in history.

Some male homosexuals will deny this, and assert male homosexuals has always existed. This isn't true at all. It is true men have had sex with other men (and boys) for a very long time, but this doesn't mean anything. Even in today's world, the psychological and erotic motivations for men to have sex with other men are different. A good example is the bug-chaser, the homosexual that has an erotic fantasy about getting infected with HIV. In the erotic imagination of the bug-chaser, the object of desire is not the typical homosexual erotic fantasy object of a hyper-masculine male, it is a degenerate male homosexual with HIV, usually close to death and emaciated (and decidedly not masculine). That they have eroticized the male homosexual, rather than a mental image of a hyper-masculine man, has led many bug-chasers to say they're the 'true' homosexual. To a lesser degree, you see this in the bear/twink dynamic that exists in the male homosexual community. The bear is supposed to eroticize the effeminate homosexual, and the twink is just looking for the hyper-masculine male. The androphilic transwoman, the type of person who Western homosexuals will say countries like Iran are forcing to have a sex change, takes this the furthest, and refuses to even have any homosexual male partners, preferring to obtain sex exclusively from heterosexual men.

These are the types of people who rule the LGBTQ community in the West, and they are completely allied with imperialism and Zionism. The imperialists put them in charge, as opposed to bisexual men and women, or lesbians, or trans people, because the white male homosexual is the most opportunistic of the lot. The closeness of the male homosexual to the bourgeoisie is well known historically, and even in the earliest days of the development of the European labor aristocracy, you can see them maneuvering themselves into influential positions. This is partly why Marx and Engels hated them so much, and why the Bolsheviks associated them with fascism. They just looked at the rampant homosexuality in the early days of the Nazis, and put two and two together.

Rev. Greg Haslam #fundie

As a philosophy, evolutionism has had proven evil influences on human happiness and welfare.

It is the root cause of such political philosophies as Atheism, Naturalism, Marxism, Statism, Socialism, and Nazism.

The 20th Century alone has spawned conflicts that have led to the loss of millions of lives. Darwin's theories are the root justification for such practices as racism, eugenics, abortion and euthanasia, practiced by Hitler, Stalin and Mao - all "intellectually fulfilled atheists" themselves.

Bryson Hobbs #racist

the constitution was not written to be changed sorry you're wrong. Nobody is going to sell children napalm what the fuck planet are you from?
Our rights including the right to own a weapon SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED and never will be, because we have guns.
What was the first thing Hitler did? Stalin? Mousalini? Mao? They made owning weapons illegal. Then the citizens had no way to protect themselves and next came enslavement and mass murder by the millions. Get out of here Lily Perrine with your hijab wearing ass. Look at Sweden right now, look at Germany and France. Completely overwhelmed by these cockroach muslims, women are being beaten and raped, murdered, and tortured. Islam is nothing but a plague of a fake "religion" and we have our rights to protect ourselves not only from foreign enemies such as Muslim's, and our government itself.
Nice response to David's comment though, you do realize that our military consists of gun toting freedom loving Americans right? The government and military are two separate entities and the GOVERNMENT can't control us as long as we have weapons. Good luck getting soldiers and marines to kill civilians.
Also, Jason, do some research! There are more murders committed with knives than any type of gun combined. I'm not talking war, I'm talking your neighbor stabbing her/his entire family.
Muslims prefer suicide bombs. Guns save lives, not take them.
Bunch of idiots I swear

Wilsonword #moonbat #pratt

An estimated 94 to 100 million souls lost their lives, killed by Communist regimes. The U.S.S.R. gets much focus but Communist genocides in Asia wiped out millions also. Economic and political systems are intertwined so deeply. It is too simplistic to say Communism did not really fail because it was never truly implemented as it was originally meant to be.

The two points you make are not logically connected.

a. milions died in those so called communism regimes.

b. its too simplistic to say communism did not really fail because it was never truly implemented.

You dont make any kind of connection between those two. How does A mean B is true? We could far more convincingly say the opposite: that A happened BECAUSE of B. Millions died because it was not real communism, since real communism does not have the violent coercion and murder of millions of people on the whim of one absolute ruler as an central aim or method.

ANY system that has ‘the violent coercion and murder of millions of people on the whim of one absolute ruler’ is not communism. It loses its right to call itself communism right away on just that one aspect. Since a key and unalterable aim of communism is “…the free development of each is the condition for the free development of all" - Communist Manifesto, Section 2 (Marx and Engels)

Yes, quite the opposite of what we are normally told, the basic aim of communism is: FREEDOM. So, Stalin and Mao etc were state dictators, not communists. Because they deliberately suppressed the freedom of their own people, directly against basic communist principles. It seems pretty clear…

(though, actually, we cant leave it just at that - there are various things that need be taken into account when we consider what actually happened in Russia and China then).

Aquinasfan #fundie

[When the Constitution was written, there was no mention of God, Jesus, the Bible or Christianity, save the ambigious matter of the date at the end. The idea of adding some such reference was considered, and was rejected rather resoundingly. We know this from the words of Luther Martin, a convention delegate who strongly advocated adding said reference.]

This was a fundamental error.

[Since then, America has become the greatest and most powerful nation the world has ever seen, and every other government in existance at the time has changed rather dramatically.]

There are many good things about America, including her social stability and wealth, but the worst thing about our country, besides the millions slaughtered in state-sanctioned abortions, is the rise of moral relativism, which can arguably be tied to the religious indifferentism that is central to our constitutional form of government.

[I would say that the objective evidence suggests that if one assumes that some deity who we can call God is involved in the state of our world, said Deity had no objection to said ommission.]

At the very least, God permitted the rise of the Roman Empire, the Ottoman empire, Hitler, Stalin and Mao. One cannot necessarily infer from earthly power God's blessing upon a nation.

whalenapp's dad #fundie

[To give some context my father in-law is a true piece of shit. He cheated on his first wife and his second wife, multiple times. Never paid child support. His first set of kids from his first marriage (of which my wife is the oldest) hates him.

But he loves Jesus, also thats how the email was sent. No paragraphs, no formatting, and lots of bad grammar.]

Nicole, There are a lot of things that you should know about what is going on. 2500 armored vehicles ordered by homeland security. Use of drones here. The 6500 Moslems in the military. The moslems in his administration. I still don't understand how you can call what lesbians and gay men do as love. Its just a hurt on hurt codependent relationship that has 60% more disease than heterosexuals, and they live 20 yrs. less. So how does that make it good for homo's. Telling the truth, is not hate. Everyone is trying to redefine definitions so they can support there own position. They are trying to make truth relative to support whatever position they want to take. Its obvious by the design of men and women, what God meant. Its also obvious by the consequences, just like with any other sin, what God meant. But most dangerous of all, there is no conscience more seared and dead, than that of a homosexual. They can perform well to look normal, but it is all an act. They want you to think they are equal or better than hetero's, and by God, without the responsibility of kids and a wife, they can look better in some regards. But how gross is it for a child to have homo parents, daddy and daddy, mommy and mommy. How can you not see this. Its gross, nasty, vile. How can you call that love. Anyway, not a putdown, just an alert. Your are swimming in very dangerous waters with sharks. You have know idea what Barak and his supporters are up to, and that boggles my mind. Its something far beyond socialism. But even if it were only socialism, given the impoverished and tyrannical nature of all socialist governments, all of them, how can you possibly support that. All those idiots have to do is mention the abuses of the wealthy, which pale in comparison to the abuses on a population under socialism, and you run to there support. How did the professors at ASU make you so blind. Capitalism has nothing to do with the greed or money, but the model and structure within which one discovers there passion, how God made us to be and what he made us to do, and then having a way to use it to achieve the highest and best possible life and happiness, at least here on this globe. That is not even remotely possible under any other form of government. Its me being a landscaper, you working at a capitalist paving company, Clarissa doing her hair thing. Capitalism is capitalizing on opportunity. It only exist like that here. How in the world can you want that to die. It took Jesus Christ, and thousands of years of oppression to birth it, and now you want to kill it because of a few reject professors, and probably a few friends who drink the same kool aid. And as far as Mike thinking that the whole Bible is a metaphor, the miracles and all, I bet he would like to have one of those miracles about now, say? I mean when you say you pray, do you pray to the God and Jesus one and only of the Bible, or the great cosmos, the great spirit. Some enigmatic unknowable God made up by the deceived and perverted minds of men to promote their own evil desires over the blind masses. Barak Obama has almost succeeded in destroying the only thing left before he declares himself to be Moslem, and that is our government itself. He promotes such ridiculous laws that conservatives and Christians could obviously never vote for, and then pounds it home that they don't support him, that he tried to work with them, and that Congress is acting along party lines, rather than working for the good of the country. He wants to make them look so ineffective, that the people, of which you are one of his minions, will give him complete power and control to fix everything. At that time, he will round up all the Christians, because they are as extreme as the Islamics according to him, put them in concentration camps that he is already making, complete with thousand and thousands of plastic coffins, and give everyone else a chip to put in the arm, which you will gladly wear yourself, and be proud that he finally fixed everything, just like Hitler, Stalin, Lenin, Mao and the others did. How can you not see what he is really up to. We need to have a talk about this and stop acting like everything is OK. I love you and Clarissa to death, but you are in love with the "John the Baptist" of the antichrist, or the antichrist himself. I can not rap my mind around that, and I can not ignore it any longer. Just like with all ravenous unrestrained sinners, the more power Barak gets, the more he bypasses Congress and sees he can get away with it, the more he wants. Its the law of diminishing returns, just like with drug addicts, sexaholics who have to continually do more and more perverse things to get the same high, money holics who will do anything to anyone to get it, its the same thing. How does this escape someone who is as smart as you are, and knowing what you know about God and the Bible. You must come to terms with this before it is too late. Football, work, life, love, all great, but there is a 900 pd guerilla in the room. Lets talk about him. I love you sweety, way too much to remain silent and hope you will figure this all out for yourself. I would be the worst dad if I did not address this, the worst. There is only one path way to heaven, not because I am blind and God is mean, but men are blind, and there is only one God, who sent his only Son. Other Gods are just made up in the minds of men. Only one God has intervened, and shown himself to man. Only one God who made earth, talks to his creation, helps his creation, loves his creation, and has sought to redeem us from our own acts. All other religions tell you just go out and do good things. But this does not change your heart, only Jesus can change the heart so that our good becomes the automatic extension of our relationship with him. We don't have to spend hours chanting, or clanging on gongs, or talking to dead relatives. We don't have to do good to cover our evil. Jesus covers our evil so we can be and do good. Lets come to agreement on these things over time, and in the power of Gods love. There is no freedom outside of Christ, and the entire history of man, and the history of this country prove that beyond argument. I love you love you, and this is why I send this. I pray that mikes fistula just disappears, and that he sees the power and glory of God. He needs to know God. I did not say he wasn't nice and wonderful, he is. I just want him to know God and the fullness of his love. Talk to you soon, Dad

Vox Day #racist #psycho

Helping Africa is one of the very worst things any Western individual can do. Possibly the most evil individual of the 20th century is not Hitler, Mao, or Stalin, but Norman Borlaug, the so-called Father of the Green Revolution, who is credited with saving one billion Africans from dying of starvation.

Guess what the consequence of that particular piece of idiocy is going to be? Borlaugh's Nobel Peace Prize will eventually come to be seen as far more ironic than Barack Obama's.

In 1971, the population of Nigeria was 51 million. Thanks to Borlaug, it is estimated that the population of Nigeria will be 400 million. The UN estimates that it will be the world's third-most populous country, behind China and India.

With the highest rate of population growth, Africa is expected to account for more than half of the world’s population growth between 2015 and 2050. During this period, the populations of 28 African countries are projected to more than double, and by 2100, ten African countries are projected to have increased by at least a factor of five: Angola, Burundi, Democratic Republic of Congo, Malawi, Mali, Niger, Somalia, Uganda, United Republic of Tanzania and Zambia.

My expectation is that considerably more than one billion people are going to die as a direct result of the do-gooders interventions in Africa. And not all of them are going to be Africans either.

savagesusie #fundie

Of course, you certainly aren’t allowed to say or portray any homosexuals in a bad light in Western Civilization anymore (truth not allowed).

No Christian thinking allowed!!!! No Christian worldview allowed, although it is what made Europe great and their later adoption of “God is Dead” delivered the reign of Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Pot, Mussolini, etc....100,000,000 murdered, but that’s ok with “let’s try man’s standard of right and wrong again, [Jerry] Brown”...

America the most perfect and free government in history based on the idea of Just Law and Supra Positive Law and Brown thinks he is more intelligent than the Founding Fathers genius combined?????? and his is the highest law of the he claiming himself “god”?

God’s standard of Right and Wrong is the Rule of Law—Just Law—in AMERICAN legal system up until Legal Positivism and the Progressive/Socialists twisted the meaning and intent of the Constitution with Holmsian (non) logic....and the start of this Rule of Man instead of the Rule of Law.

—the Bible is now hate speech (No first Amendment for Christian children in public schools NONE!!!!!.....Forced agenda in public schools to indoctrinate young children into thinking the unnatural is “natural”...up is down—so they will believe any lies the Marxists God views—cuz you have NO natural rights cuz that comes from God.

By Jerry—teach little kids all about sodomy so they think it’s cool and not icky and try it—monkey see, monkey do— Brown.

BTW, how many children did Jerry raise? and does he even have any genetic interest in the future—any grandchildren? Shouldn’t men with only an interest in here and now, not be allowed to be a politician which affects the future of civilization? Maybe there should be laws against people holding office who don’t take part in raising children since they don’t understand how their stupid laws and regulations will affect the thinking of children.....such a profound power for people who can’t understand the consequence of their actions.

Genetic ties give a person an interest in leaving a better country for posterity-—but not if you have no children or ties to “family” ==what the Marxists are trying to deliberately destroy—the support system needed to defy government totalitarianism. They want power and to dictate what little johnny is allowed to think....yes, sodomy is what they want to put into his mind so they can create a playground for themselves with the children. (Pink Swastika)and Marcuse. Evil is afoot again....guess it always has been—it just has total control of government now.

Stephen Green #fundie

A leaflet showing why objections to evolution should be allowed in science lessons hit the streets last weekend.

The full-colour tract, with pictures of animals which defy evolution, will be distributed at first in the Surrey Heath constituency of Michael Gove MP, Secretary of State for Education, and a supporter of ‘gay marriage’.
Soldiers of Christ will organise the work of distributing the leaflets. Youth Leader Peter Greensmith said: ‘Going out on the streets and standing up for Jesus is a faith-building exercise, and I’m looking forward to what the Lord will do through it.’


The debate between creation and evolution and what should be taught in schools…
The Government, through Michael Gove MP, Secretary of State for Education, have said they will introduce the teaching of evolution into primary schools. Mr Gove only recently banned any talk of design or creation from secondary school biology lessons.
Mr Gove’s decision is certain to provoke a crisis of conscience amongst primary school teachers of faith who cannot avoid the subject of biology.


Cover Picture: The giraffe doesn’t get a headache!

With a long neck and a massive heart generating twice our blood pressure, why does the giraffe not get a brain haemorrhage when it bends down to drink? Because of special valves in its jugular vein and spongy tissue at the base of its brain which limit the pressure and the flow.

Giraffes couldn’t survive without this special ‘plumbing’, so they must always have had it. It couldn’t have evolved gradually and no fossils show intermediate forms with half-as-long a neck. This clever and effective design yet again points to a wise, all-powerful Creator God.

Alan Keyes #fundie

When it comes to a matter of obvious moral substance (sexual sin) Pope Francis humbly wonders “Who am I to judge?” When it comes to a matter of scientific fact and methodology, he not only judges, he demands the imposition of a harsh sentence of perpetual deprivation and servitude upon the whole human race, with a view perhaps near unto genocide. I doubt that I’m alone in seeing something dreadfully wrong with this picture.

Even if the facts “Laudato Si’” relies upon were scientifically verified (and at this point, God only knows), the harsh sentence demanded would be for Christ to impose upon the whole sinful human tribe, when he comes again in judgment. Yet when I look in the mirror of reason at the reflections Pope Francis offers in his encyclical, what I see looks unlike Jesus Christ (who as of now still comes to save and not harshly to penalize humanity). Pope Francis’ reflections look more like Marx, Stalin or Mao Zedong – materialistic ideologues who punished not for the sake of God or truth, but on account of resentful, self-idolizing human will and ideology.

TheHistorian #fundie

Hitler came to power with the assistance of his Brownshirts. Obama was helped in his election by HIS brownshirts, namely the Black Panther Party, union thugs, ...

Hitler had his SS. Obama wants an internal security force that is equivalent to the military.

Hitler was half Jewish and hated Jews; Obama is half white and hates whites (e.g.comments about the grandmother who raised him). Beck's comment about him not being racist by being anti-colonialist also bears this out.

So, Jer, there are some examples on how he resembles Hitler. I would have to research it more to give you more, and frankly I am not willing to waste my time. I am sure that someone else can give you examples of how he is like Mao Zedong, Stalin, or other tyrants if they want to bother trying. The bigger point is that he resembles Hitler a heck of a lot more that GWB.

However, my opinion is that he and his are closer to the Weimar Republic the way he is running our currency, economy, and country into the ground. Maybe a cross between the Weimar and FDR with some Wilson thrown in?

Chuck Colson #fundie

In contrast, the record of avowedly atheistic regimes is, shall we say, less than inspiring. Atheist regimes like the Soviet Union, Red China, and Cambodia killed tens of millions of people in an effort to establish an atheistic alternative to the City of God. For men like Stalin and Mao, people were expendable precisely because they were not created in the image of a personal God. Instead, they were objects being manipulated by impersonal historical forces.

One atheist understood the moral consequences of his unbelief: That was Nietzsche, who argued that God is dead, but acknowledged that without God there could be no binding and objective moral order.

Of course, the “New Atheists” deny this. Instead, they unconvincingly argue that you can have the benefits of an altruistic, Christian-like morality without God.