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Kingdamian1 #fundie rationalwiki.org

Essay:Lol ATHEISTS are basically FLAT earthers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

“We are all atheists about most of the earth shapes that societies have ever believed in. Some of us just go one shape further.”
— Probably not Richard Dawkins

Is a movement that aims to highlight the FACT that 100% of all evil-doers were believers that there is a planet earth (Earthists), and that if Non-Earthism (no belief in earth) was promoted, there would be no nationalism, no war for territory, much less evil etc. It also shows that over the centuries there have been many ideas as to what the shape of the earth is, therefore the only logical conclusion is Non-Earthism. Don't you find it funny that your beliefs about the earth (spherical earth and heliocentrism), just happen to be the only correct ones?

List of Earth Models Round/Heliocentric Earth Proponents don't Believe In

1)Flat, disk shaped earth
2)Flat, square shaped earth
3)Flat earth, inside a glass ceiling.
4)Flat earth, geocentric model
5)Expanding earth
6)Hollow earth
7)Geocentric, Ptolemaic model
8)Earth as the center of the Universe
9)Earth resting on Elephant shoulders
10)Other primitive beliefs....

List of Earth Models Non-Earthists don't Believe In

1)Flat, disk shaped earth
2)Flat, square shaped earth
3)Flat earth, inside a glass ceiling.
4)Flat earth, geocentric model
5)Expanding earth
6)Hollow earth
7)Geocentric, Ptolemaic model
8)Earth as the center of the Universe
9)Earth resting on Elephant shoulders
10)Other primitive beliefs....
11)Heliocentric, Spherical earth model.

Earthism and Evil

100% of all evil has been done by earthists. People like Galileo and Giordano Bruno have suffered as a direct consequence of their particular earth shape beliefs. The act of indoctrinating children with earthism should constitute child abuse. Some of the deadliest wars have been fought as a result of earthism and nationalism.

W. Pope #fundie amazon.com

You made a mistake in logic. You say that "God" cannot be proven or disproven. This is a contradiction in terms. If God cannot be disproven, then He is proven. If He cannot be proven, then He is disproven. You can't have both. You must first define what God is before you can analytically prove his existence. God is defined as the "first being." Now we have to define what a "being" is. A being is an entity, and an entity is an autonamous functioning system that percieves, contemplates, chooses, and acts. We are beings, and if you don't believe that there is no reason to discuss further.
Since only beings act, then the first nature must be a being. To start at the first nature, you must start at nothing. Nothing does not exist. It is like the point. The point is an idea, but can't be drawn or decribed except as a beginning. So nothing is not, therefore life is. This is the beginning of the 0-10 fundamental principles which progress into the concept-reality progression. This is what half of my book 2016 The Final Revelation is about, so I'm not going to explain the whole thing here. The famous numbers of the Bible, being mainly 3, 7, 12, 33, 40, 70, and 72 are understood by this progression.

letthereaderunderstand #fundie abovetopsecret.com

Why can you set a sphere on the level ground and not have it start rolling? For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. The earth is moving, why does a sphere which is not biased to "lay on a side", not start rolling the opposite direction the earth is moving?

If the curve of the earth lies at around 25 miles, why can we see things that are hundreds of miles away through a telescope?

Why did the meaning of Gravity change from "weight" to something that doesn't exist?

Why do objects get smaller as they move away from you?

Why do rainbows bend like a dome?

Why can't you feel the earth rotating, but you can feel the earth quake?

Why does lava come up from the core if the core is what is holding everything down?

...I walk on flat ground, I float on flat water, I sleep flat, I write on flat pieces of paper, I build out of flat pieces of wood, I press my cloths flat and I read time on a flat clock.

Only 3 dimensions exist, Length (flat), width (flat) and breadth (flat) all which exist as one together called Time. I can say this having experienced the three in one as can everyone else.

"River Phoenix" #fundie media.xfamily.org

[From a "prophecy interview" with River Phoenix's ghost, called River Bares All]


Q: You know how everyone was suspecting you and Keanu of
being gay. Was it true?
A: Keanu and I were like close brothers. We did love each other, but not in that way. We both wanted to buck the System. We wanted to get away from the image that they tried to give us, the labels that they tried to hang on us. We made the mistake of making that movie, My Own Private Idaho. It was very degrading, degenerate. That was the movie I'm the most sorry for, because of the effect it had - not only on my life, as that movie was my downfall - but it also affected others' lives, as we were telling them that it's okay to be gay.
Well, it's not okay! It's filthy! And that movie was my biggest mistake, for which I'm very sorry! Keanu and I made a decision that we wouldn't speak up against gays, which in itself is saying that it's okay. And I'm sorry for that. But, no, we are not [gays]. We were just very close friends, and I love him very much.

Q: I was wondering if you ever thought back to when you were younger, and in the Family. Did you believe anything that people told you about your past?
A: I was very young when my parents left the Family. It was very confusing for me because they had taught me to love the Lord, and to love Grandpa, Papa Lion.And I did. I loved him very much, and everything the Family stood for. My sister and I would perform on the streets, singing and playing guitar, and we really enjoyed it. We were very happy. It was beautiful. People loved us and we were very fulfilled.
Then suddenly they uprooted us and went back to the System, back to the Whore, back to America. They started teaching us new things, different things, things that were contrary to what we had learned in the Family. And slowly, slowly we drifted away. Our beliefs changed, our faith changed, and as I got older I started to hear negative things about the Family.
It was sad, because my faith had died. But deep inside my heart I still loved Jesus. Deep inside my heart I still wanted what I had had as a child. I wanted that freedom. I wanted to be able to serve the Lord, like you guys, but it was all very confusing to me. I was very confused, and very lonely. And though I was very famous and made lots of money, I was very lonely, and cried and cried and cried.

Q: Is there meaning to the name
"Hollywood"?
A: Hollywood is a spiritual place - a wicked, spiritual place. It's very anti-Christ, and it's run by anti-Christs who are trying to infiltrate the world with their propaganda. It's very rare that they give any credit or glory to Jesus.
Usually they defame Him, and spit on His name. It is a wicked place, and that's why there are certain ones that the Lord lays on your heart to pray for. He asks you to pray for some of those who He knows are searching for deliverance, for the truth, for a way out, from that den of iniquity. But God will have His way. You'll see. He will destroy that place for the evil it has spread throughout the world.

Q: Is there anything you think it's especially important for us Family teens to know?
A: When I died I was only 23, so I was just coming out of teenhood. When I came to Heaven, the Lord gave me the opportunity to serve Him with the Family, because of the prayers that were prayed for me. I was able to work along with some of the teens then who had come to Heaven, some of the kids that were Here, and later the girls from the Austin accident.
I saw the potential that the Family teens have. I saw what I could have had, had I grown up in the Family. I saw that a lot of young people in the Family feel unhappy and discontented, and compare themselves with those in the System.--And sometimes they compare themselves negatively.

Q: If you had a chance to redo it all, would you choose to stay in the Family? Like, we wouldn't have you talking, you wouldn't be here talking and all that. So would you redo it to stay in the Family, or redo it the same way you did it so we would have this chance?
A: If I had a chance to go back and do it all over, I would stay in the Family, because there is no greater calling on this Earth than to serve the Lord. And there's no greater place to serve the Lord on this Earth than in the Family. So that would be my greatest desire. But if I had a chance to come back and live my life the same way I did, then I would do it differently too.

Shad01 #conspiracy godlikeproductions.com

The Earth is Flat cause Balls Bounce

The Earth is Flat.

How does a ball bounce without getting stuck to the ground?

Because their is air in the ball, which reduces its mass. Which allows it to bounce back up.

The rubber allows this to happen.

Try bouncing a ball thats heavy. It just stays down if the force isnt hard enough to shift its weight off the ground.

Gravity = Non Existent.

Weight and mass can be calculated.

Why does smoke go up?

why does Helium go up?

Cause they are lighter than air. Thus proving their is no such thing as gravity.

Eric Metaxas and Stan Guthrie #fundie news.tfionline.com

Depressed Teens: They Need More Than Happiness

By Eric Metaxas and Stan Guthrie, BreakPoint.org, June 14, 2017

The numbers are shocking. According to the journal Translational Psychiatry, more than 36 percent of teen girls in America are depressed or have had a recent “major depressive episode.” For boys, it’s a slightly less alarming–but only slightly less–13.6 percent.

It wasn’t always this bad. Writing at the National Review Online, Mona Charen reports that rates for depression and anxiety “were much lower during the Great Depression, World War II, and the turbulent 1970s than they are today.”

Mental-health issues are spreading like wildfire on college campuses, too. Ohio State, for example, reports a 43-percent jump in students seeking mental-health counseling in the last five years.

As Charen writes, “Something is robbing young people of happiness and well-being.”

Indeed–but what, exactly? Charen looks at several factors, eventually landing on changing family dynamics, such as divorce and single parenting. And this is right, as far as it goes. Not having a mom and dad at home can be very hard on young people. But it goes deeper. I think religious myopia has something to do with it, too.

Back in 2005, Christian Smith and Melinda Lundquist Denton described a corruption of the historic Christian faith growing among young people in America, including those in our churches, which they call Moralistic Therapeutic Deism. It is, they say, “centrally about feeling good, happy, secure, at peace. It is about attaining subjective well-being, being able to resolve problems, and getting along amicably with other people.”

But despite Moralistic Therapeutic Deism’s focus on feeling good, it’s clear that many young people don’t. The question is why?

Perhaps what they need is not more encouragement to be nice, but more opportunities to encounter Love Himeslf–who gives them not a list of do’s and don’t’s, but an invitation to a banquet. “Come to me,” Jesus says, “all of you who are weary and carry heavy burdens, and I will give you rest. (Matt 11:28).

Somewhere deep inside, unhappy young people know that they were meant for more, much more, than this world can possibly offer. As Augustine said, “Thou hast made us for thyself, O Lord, and our heart is restless until it finds its rest in thee.”

It’s not about mere happiness. As C.S. Lewis said, “I didn’t go to religion to make me happy. I always knew a bottle of Port would do that.” And yet Lewis claimed that there is something beyond mere happiness. He called it Joy, saying that the Lord uses it to draw us to Himself. “It would seem that Our Lord finds our desires not too strong,” Lewis wrote, “but too weak. We are half-hearted creatures, fooling about with drink and sex and ambition when infinite joy is offered us…. We are far too easily pleased.”

So how do we connect young people with Jesus? Well, we need to pursue and know Him with this same holy dissatisfaction ourselves. Do we? You cannot share what you don’t have.

Matt Forney #fundie mattforney.com

If you’re a girl pursuing anything more than a high school degree, you’re in all likelihood wasting your time.

Encouraging girls to go to college and grad school en masse is one of the biggest mistakes America has ever made. The flood of girls into universities is not only in part responsible for the current economic crisis, it’s made it increasingly difficult—if not impossible—for both girls and men to fulfill their natural roles. At the same time higher education has been degraded by so many unqualified girls getting accepted into college, those girls have seen their egos unjustifiably boosted by their degrees, making them unsuitable to be wives and mothers.

In order for society to be cured, this has to be fixed.

Here are my reasons why girls should be discouraged from going to college.
1. Going to college makes girls less attractive.

Girls, in their socially sanctioned solipsism, assume that men are turned on by the same things that they are. Because girls crave high status men, they assume that men similarly find their high status attractive, which couldn’t be further from the truth. No man alive has ever said, “God DAMN, I love the master’s degree on that girl!” It’s usually “God DAMN, she’s got a rack that could stop a runaway train!” or “God DAMN, this girl’s cooking is to die for!”

As a result, four plus years of college more often than not ruins a girl.

For starters, the extended adolescence that is college encourages sluttiness, which wrecks a girl all on its own. All those hunks splooging in her vagina make it more likely that she’ll end up divorcing the man she does end up marrying. Sluts are emotionally broken, incapable of loving and serving men, squandering their gifts of femininity and beauty, constantly trying to trade up for a bigger, better deal that never comes.

Marrying a slut is like paying full price for a beat-up old clunker.

Additionally, college is problematic because it gives girls the illusion of knowledge. Outside of STEM degrees (which are deficient in their own way), few majors actually impart useful information to girls, yet they still think they’re entitled to respect for having the degree; credentialism at its finest. Girls come out of college without being able to cook, sew, balance a checkbook or perform any of the necessary tasks of modern living, yet they still think they’re smart and independent and don’t you dare suggest otherwise. Don’t forget the massive amounts of student loan debt that these girls rack up, which you become in part responsible for if you’re dumb enough to put a ring on it.

Woman is not a learning animal.

The two most fulfilling relationships I’ve ever had were with girls who hadn’t yet graduated from college—one was midway through her degree and the other had not started yet—because they hadn’t had their minds poisoned by the lies of academia. They were fun to be around, girly, and eager to please. They hadn’t had their hearts broken through countless drunken hookups. When I explained something to them that they didn’t understand, they actually listened to me and did what I told them instead of accusing me of “mansplaining.”

If girls are like gold coins, sending them to college is like dunking them in nitric acid.
1a. Girls who go to college are extremely likely to get sexually assaulted.

Given the massive rape epidemic on college campuses, universities are massively unsafe places for girls. As feminists love reminding us, universities are ground zero for rape culture; one in four girls will be raped before the end of her college tenure. Given this information, why would anyone who cares about their daughter’s well-being let her do something as reckless as going to college?

You might as well parachute her into the worst part of Detroit with a “FREE FUCKTOY” sign taped to her back.
2. Most girls major in useless subjects that contribute nothing to the world.

Feminists love bragging about how girls are now earning the majority of college degrees, but they never bring up the fact that the majority of girls’ degrees are worthless in every way. Girls predominantly major in subjects like ethnic studies, women’s studies, English, communications and the like that require no work of any kind and give them no job prospects. As Aaron Clarey shows in this video, the majority of useful (STEM) degrees are still going to men.

What career prospects does a 22-year old girl with a bachelor’s in Arachnid Sexuality have? Dim ones.

If they’re lucky, they’ll end up becoming lawyers, civil servants or HR commissars, careers whose economic and social value is less than zero; those fields exist solely to employ the unemployable and leech off the productive. A select few might hit the jackpot and enter politics, where they can do an even better job of sucking our blood; Clarey showed in his book Worthless that the majority of American politicians have degrees in useless, parasitical subjects like law (Democrats more so than Republicans). But the vast majority of girls will end up living at home when they graduate, struggling to make their monthly student loan payments on a Starbucks salary.

Clearly, slaving away for minimum wage is way more fulfilling than being a wife and mother.

Furthermore, having all these girls “earning” these pointless degrees has lessened the value of a degree period. It’s common knowledge that the rarer something is, the more valuable it is. When our parents were our age, college degrees were uncommon enough that merely having one guaranteed you a good job, and you could secure most jobs with a one-hour interview. Now that everyone and their mother has a degree, employers cross-examine you like you’re on the witness stand, scrutinizing your GPA, your extracurriculars and making you complete stupid questionnaires that analyze how good of a “team player” you are, none of which has any bearing on how well you can do the job.

In their childish quest for “independence,” girls have made it more difficult for everyone—including themselves—to get a good-paying job.
3. Having girls working makes it more difficult for anyone to earn high wages.

It astounds me how so many feminists have absolutely no knowledge of economics. Here’s a hard lesson for you girls: labor is a commodity. And like all other commodities, labor is subject to the laws of supply and demand. When the supply of a commodity outpaces demand, its price (in this case, wages) goes down; when demand outpaces supply, the price goes up. This basic law is why a Walmart in Canton, Ohio is holding canned food drives for its own employees while the Walmart in Williston, North Dakota has to pay its workers $21 an hour and give them free hotel rooms; labor is plentiful in Ohio and scarce in North Dakota.

Leftists lament how wages have stagnated since the seventies and how the gap between the rich and poor has never been wider, but they can’t admit that feminism is a big reason why Americans are getting poorer by the day. The mass entry of girls into the workforce that began in the seventies conveniently coincides with the stagnation and decline of American wages, as well as the decline of unions. Whereas a man could comfortably support his family on his own back in the fifties and sixties, it takes both parents working to raise a family today, assuming the couple can even afford to buy a house and have children to begin with.

Additionally, the presence of girls in the labor force has feminized the economy and made it less productive as a whole. Because girls are unable and/or unwilling to actually take useful positions in the trades, manufacturing or other blue-collar fields (“Eww, I can’t mine coal! I might break a nail!”), the American economy had to be reconfigured to employ them somehow. The solution was to demonize the trades and create new useless white-collar positions such as “human resources.” Corporations used feminists as pawns to help promote outsourcing and free trade in the eighties/early nineties and push pointless office jobs as the new middle-class ideal. And all of those coveted white-collar jobs conveniently required a four-year degree, enriching the (leftist) universities as well.

As a result, we live in a country where a girl who makes $30,000 a year at a nonprofit is more highly regarded than an electrician who makes three times that.

Not only that, girls have altered the workplace itself for the worst. Government bureaucracies and other female-run institutions are governed by rules both written (e.g. sexual harassment laws) and unwritten that make it impossible to be frank, encouraging cattiness and backstabbing. And with few exceptions, female employees all act as volunteer commissars, ready to blow you in to the bossman the minute you upset their feeeeelings. You can’t be direct or honest because you never know what your co-workers will find offensive, making it difficult to get any work done.

But it gets worse than that: feminism is in part responsible for the current economic crisis.

It was girls’ desire for a never-ending supply of cheap crap (more than 80 percent of consumer spending is controlled by women) that resulted in the outsourcing of American manufacturing to China and the rise of big box stores like Walmart that squash local businesses and pay their workers the bare minimum allowed by law. It’s girls fornicating with wild abandon and divorcing their husbands on a whim that has lead to the epidemic of single moms and the subsequent strain on social services. It’s girls going to the doctor every time they get a boo-boo that has resulted in hard-working, healthy men like me having our insurance premiums skyrocket under Obamacare.

And it’s girls being unable to pay off their student loans that will lead to the next economic collapse.
4. Education (and work) are bad for girls’ physical and mental health.

It makes me laugh to see how effectively corporate America has made feminists into their most favored pets. Whenever feminists crow about the “end of men,” what they’re really saying is “Ha ha, we girls make WAY better slaves than you loser guys!” Jezebel and Gawker Media exemplify this contradiction best; all the girls writing there eagerly sound the gospel of female empowerment to make money for a man—Nick Denton—who pays them barely above minimum wage. “Yes Massa, Pax Dickinson is a misogynist racist asshat! Can I pretty please have a cookie, Massa?”

But beneath this you-go-grrl facade is a well of pain and suffering.

Despite all the feminists telling them that they should be happy to be “liberated,” female unhappiness is higher now than it’s ever been. Far more girls than men are suffering from mental illness, and antidepressant use among girls has gotten so bad that the drinking water of major cities like London is turning into a toxic soup. Every Strong, Independent Woman™ knows in her heart that her life is hell on Earth; it’s only her pride that keeps her from admitting the truth.

Recently, a friend of mine who quit her job to become a homemaker and returned to the workforce when her children grew older admitted to me that she preferred being a housewife. Why? It was less stressful. When she didn’t work, all she had to worry about was taking care of her kids, cooking and keeping the house clean. While she and her husband are wealthier now that they have two incomes, her life is never-ending misery. Her (female) boss constantly belittles and abuses her; her co-workers are gossipy do-nothings who refuse to pull their weight, making her pick up the slack; her health has deteriorated to the point where she’s developed stress-related carpal tunnel.

From the kitchen to the cubicle; isn’t freedom grand?

The reality is that girls always submit to men. It’s unavoidable. The only question is what kind of man she submits to. Will it be to a husband who protects her, provides for her and will love her until death do them part? Or will it be to a CEO like Nick Denton or some other corporate manager who views her as a tool to enrich himself, who will kick her to the curb as soon as she’s no longer useful? Even feminism itself is an invention of men, specifically Rousseau and the philosophers of the Enlightenment; Mary Wollstonecraft and other female “thinkers” were never more than sideshow freaks.

Deep inside, girls know what they want; they just need authoritative men to give it to them.

If you’re a girl, you should only go to college if you can meet one or more of these criteria:

Major in something useful. Here’s a pointer to figuring out if a degree is useful; does it involve math? If not, you’re wasting your time. I recommend Aaron Clarey’s Worthless if you want more info.
Go to a quality school. If you can’t make it into the Ivy League or another high-quality institution such as UVM or Binghamton, you have no business going to college.
Have your parents pay for it. I don’t mean co-signing your student loans, I mean having daddy take his wallet out and cover your costs in full. If you’re rich enough that your parents can afford college without any loans, it doesn’t much matter what you do.

The rest of you girls? We’re here to take you back to the place you secretly long to be, the place where you belong: the kitchen.

Now, on your knees!

Vox Day #fundie voxday.blogspot.com

[On the term "right-wing SJW"]

It's intrinsically nonsensical, and let me explain for those of you who have not read SJWS ALWAYS LIE, which is, as even people who don't like me very much will tell you, the go-to book on the subject. Social justice is about the convergence of all individuals and institutions towards what they consider to be the maximum possible justice for everyone, and so "social justice warrior" does not refer to tactics, it does not refer to techniques, it refers to objectives. And the objectives of the SJW are absolutely antithetical to the right wing in general, and to right-wing extremists in particular

Alot of people don't realize that the concept of social justice goes back to the 1800s. That's right. A commenter said social justice is socialist justice. Many figures on the right have condemned it, probably the best example being Friedrich von Hayek. He wrote a really good essay on the subject back in 1971, so this is all going back much further than most people realize, and what we're seeing in the SJWs today is really just the ultimate realization of what John Stuart Mill was advocating back in, whatever it was, 1851. So if you look at what social justice stands for, it stands for the very things that we're now seeing from the tech companies, it stands for all of the corporations, all of the organizations, all of the Boy Scouts, all the churches, everything, being used to enforce the principles of social justice. Now, of course, what social justice specifically stands for has a tendency to mutate at any given moment. They used to be concerned about gay marriage, before that they were concerned about women in the workplace. They were concerned about black quarterbacks, now they're concerned about black coaches. The specific target frequently evolves, but the general objective of forcing everybody's opinion, and everybody's thinking, and everybody's actions to conform to the narrative, that is the primary objective.

Obviously that is not what we on the right wing support or stand for. We don't accept any of it. Social justice, and especially the convergence that it entails, is diametrically opposed to all of us who value Aristotelian logic, value Christianity and Christian morality, and so it is absolutely insane, it's nonsensical, to confuse the two or to conflate the two. Now, you can say quite reasonably that we don't want politics in our comics. I don't think that is very plausible for comics that are going to have any relevance to current events or to the interesting philosophical and ideological questions of the day, but that's not a nonsensical statement, it's just a self-limiting statement.

ScareCro #fundie youtube.com

ScareCro: 5 reasons people WILL FIGHT the flat-earth knowledge:

1. Brain effort – The brain will recognize this information will FORCE it to re-arrange and re-program several pieces of information it’s accumulated over the years. The brain will fight because this WILL require a high amount of mental effort, and the best way to avoid the effort is to avoid the information.

2. The ego problem – Due to a person’s ego, they’ll fight you and your new information, because they value their words over you and yours. They cannot accept that you might know such valuable truths, that they didn’t realize before, and in defense of their ego, they’ll disclaim your truths.

3. Selfishness – In many occasions, the person is so comfortable living the fast life that they don’t want to simply change their way of life, and couldn’t care less about what is happening in the world. They are too focused on themselves.

4. Psychologically dependent on our own version of the truth – This information is not easy to swallow; one cannot accept this information and go on with their lives in the same way. Most of the people are not ready to be unplugged and many of them are so inert, so dependent on the system that they will fight to protect it. An example is in couples, sometimes one partner (husband/spouse) is so bad/violent/disrespectful, yet the other partner will not leave him/her because he/she is so dependent psychologically on them.

5. Refusal to accept that the system is cheating/lying to them – They believe and value the voice of the system; it has become the prime decider of their reality.

ScareCro: G?r?a?v?i?t?y? - Simple, objects that are heavier than the medium they are in "fall". Objects that are lighter than the medium they are in "rise". Objects with the same buoyancy as the medium they are in "float". No gravity, no sphere. Oceans don't curve into spinning ball.?

Beenjamin: Heavier elements, Iron, Nickel and Cobalt, fall downwards, and that pulls itself into a sphere. If gravity exists, it's just a simple equation to prove that the earth is a sphere. Also, do you believe other planets are flat? if not, that makes no sense. If so,explain Saturn's rings.?
6 months ago•

ScareCro: If a ball earth existed, this conversation wouldn't. Ball earth math is shot right out the window with videos like this, observable landmarks visible when they CLEARLY should be hidden behind a curve. The heliocentric model collapses when the scientific method is applied. As far as "planets" go, I see round lights in the sky just like you and everyone else. Does that mean you can land a "spaceship" on them and walk around? Nope. Does that mean because you see round lights in the sky that you live on a round light in the sky? Nope. If the pool balls are round, then by proxy the pool table must be too? Nope. The stars reset themselves and have done so since antiquity. There are sun and moon dials thousands of years old, still accurate to this day. The "argument" flat vs. ball is "won or lost" at curvature. Oceans don't curve around into a ball. You'll never observe or be able to measure that in our reality. Their math proves their math, when their math is applied to a ball earth, it fails.?

Beenjamin: If the earth was flat, we wouldn't be having this conversation, as there would be no comms satellites in orbit, and life itself wouldn't even have been able to properly develop. Planes would be unable to fly, and winds would be constant and extremely powerful. Please stop smoking weed all day long, and get your hippie ass to school. Kutabare.?

ScareCro: Oh silly boy, guess how much communication is carried through towers and cables. Actually, don't. Go look it up. If the earth were a ball, gyroscopes wouldn't work. And speaking of planes (air PLANE, notice anything?) Go look at your flight patterns on a ball vs flat earth. So, you're obviously a super noob with FE. You can continue the silly spinning ball fairy tale all ya want. No curve, no ball.?

Ocko #racist stormfront.org

First of all kneeling is an act of submission. To kneel for the anthem then means submission to it. But Negroes want to express the opposite . so why do Negroes then use something confusing?

My guess is that the negro brain stored this act of kneeling when they deal with their 'owner' (funny that they call themselves so). Obviously some genetic memory is here at play. Whoever created the Negro race created them for slavery. As the kneeling is most likely in their genes.

if Nerves are not controlled they go down to a base level of existence. Any culture or civilization is only on the surface. Deep inside the negro is the animal which jumps out at any opportunity bringing evrtything down what they touch. To be a slave is the only form of a human being existence they can Upgrade from their animal existence. They make that public now for everyone to see

Rep. Janet Atkins (R-District 11) #racist capitalnewyork.com

TALLAHASSEE — In a private gathering during last month’s Republican Party of Florida quarterly meeting, state Rep. Janet Adkins told a group of North Florida GOP activists that the key to defeating Corrine Brown, a black Jacksonville Democrat, is boosting the number of black prisoners in her district.

“You draw [Brown's seat] in such a fashion so perhaps, a majority, or maybe not a majority, but a number of them will live in the prisons, thereby not being able to vote,” said Adkins, a Nassau County Republican, referring to black residents.

Those comments came during a closed-door meeting of the North Florida Republican caucus. POLITICO Florida obtained audio of her comments.

She called it the “perfect storm” for being able to defeat Brown, a liberal firebrand who has been in Congress for 23 years.

Her comments came after making sure no reporters were in the room.

“Let me give you inside ball game. Are there any reporters in here?” she said. “Any reporters? OK. So, inside ball game.”

Adkins directly addressed Danny Norton, the state GOP committeeman from Baker County, which includes a large prison population.

“You can actually, Danny, you — you can be the person that will help get rid of Corrine Brown,” she said.

Ann Coulter #fundie clarionledger.com

I've held off on writing about soccer for a decade — or about the length of the average soccer game — so as not to offend anyone. But enough is enough. Any growing interest in soccer can only be a sign of the nation's moral decay.

• Individual achievement is not a big factor in soccer. In a real sport, players fumble passes, throw bricks and drop fly balls — all in front of a crowd. When baseball players strike out, they're standing alone at the plate. But there's also individual glory in home runs, touchdowns and slam-dunks.

In soccer, the blame is dispersed and almost no one scores anyway. There are no heroes, no losers, no accountability, and no child's fragile self-esteem is bruised. There's a reason perpetually alarmed women are called "soccer moms," not "football moms."

Do they even have MVPs in soccer? Everyone just runs up and down the field and, every once in a while, a ball accidentally goes in. That's when we're supposed to go wild. I'm already asleep.

• Liberal moms like soccer because it's a sport in which athletic talent finds so little expression that girls can play with boys. No serious sport is co-ed, even at the kindergarten level.

• The prospect of either personal humiliation or major injury is required to count as a sport. Most sports are sublimated warfare. As Lady Thatcher reportedly said after Germany had beaten England in some major soccer game: Don't worry. After all, twice in this century we beat them at their national game.

Baseball and basketball present a constant threat of personal disgrace. In hockey, there are three or four fights a game — and it's not a stroll on beach to be on ice with a puck flying around at 100 miles per hour. After a football game, ambulances carry off the wounded. After a soccer game, every player gets a ribbon and a juice box.

• You can't use your hands in soccer. (Thus eliminating the danger of having to catch a fly ball.) What sets man apart from the lesser beasts, besides a soul, is that we have opposable thumbs. Our hands can hold things. Here's a great idea: Let's create a game where you're not allowed to use them!

• It's foreign. In fact, that's the precise reason the Times is constantly hectoring Americans to love soccer. One group of sports fans with whom soccer is not "catching on" at all, is African-Americans. They remain distinctly unimpressed by the fact that the French like it.

Liptusg #sexist reddit.com

Many incels are neurally incompatible with the female personality

This is a topic which has earned some coverage in a lot of the 'proto-blackpill' manosphere communities of their day, and some which relate to it here, but I think it might be worth encapsulating into a more poignant declaration. That is, to address the seeming disparity ( From an outsider's perspective ) between the idealistic yearning to the harsh reality and bring them into reconciliation.

And that is, many of the men who are in the incel demographic ( And I say many because you can still be incel and possess a heavily neurotypical mindset or adhere to certain Bluepilled doctrines ) are both neurodivergent enough, introspective enough and wise enough ( regardless of cognitive ability ) to automatically set themselves completely apart from the spectrum of coexistence with femininity. More succinctly, hypergamy and unattractiveness aside, they just don't have what it takes to put up with the myriad faults of female nature and wouldn't actually be able to find common ground with women even while passing initial mate selection, despite instinctively yearning for the sex or affection.

In a Chad's body, they would be forced to emulate the lifestyle of the exalted Redpiller ideal, the plate-spinner, who pumps and dumps yet never settles down because he is disillusioned with women's behavior as people ( for good reason ) and can't really tolerate all the nonsense or immorality that comes with 'committing' or trying to love one. The 'girlfriend' of his dreams his a mirage, an organism that does not actually exist on earth, a unicorn that acts like a man, not like an actual homo sapiens female.

But let's elaborate more on what that female personality is, and why most of the incels who are, and I'm searching for a term which is actually hard to put into words here - who are ruminative ( a synonym of wise, actually ), not as impulsive, who find themselves operating in a mindset of taking a few minutes in any new situation to existentially ponder the meaning, consequences and rightfulness of their own decisions and those of others ( Something which is predominantly an atypical masculine and non-feminine approach by the way, just look at the gender of most philosophers ), if you find yourself resonating with that, then it is very likely that you will not resonate with femininity under any circumstance.

Any so-called 'potential partner' is going to be predictively broken up with just by witnessing her actions for a minute, before it even has to come to it physically, just like a calculator has the results to your math equation before you even finish going through the motions. The gap between masculinity and femininity is wide enough that keep in mind, even among NPC's, normies, with only a tinge of 'positive masculinity' at it's finest and a flat 0 at Wisdom score, it is still the number 1 factor in the breakup rates of couples and why they change relationships like socks. Whether it be the man realizing he's being used as a status object and getting sick of it or the woman deciding he isn't good enough for her anymore, they just either didn't have the foresight to see it or they never actually cared and well long-term plate spinning ( Or Chad-fishing ). Look at how surprised some of the participants in say, Jersey Shore are, when their relationship which was built on superficial normie trash breaks down over superficial normie trash. Does it surprise anyone else? Here's a secret for the smug women and bluepillers reading this - you are merely one level above them. Your superficial relationships founded on social status, body language, 'ambitions' and looks ( as much as you hate to admit it ) are just one tiny iteration above tan spray and club swagger.

Now let's elaborate more on what is female personality and why it's so discordant to any man who can't bring himself down to it's level. First of all, when I say female personality, I mean it - there is literally just one, it is, contrary to all protestations, a monolith. You know who's the chief proponent of this theory? Women. Every time a woman tells you "You don't understand what women want", or "No woman is ever going to touch you with a 10-foot of stick if you do X" and "Women like a man who is BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH" and "You creep women out when..", they're all confirming it. I bring it up to them every single time that they make an affirmative statement about women, and they always remain speechless.

Liking one horror movie over the other or preferring hiking over Netflix, being a ballerina or psychologist, wearing this crop-top instead of those short-shorts, political alignment, religion, none of these are necessarily core personality differences. You could manufacture a robot that does all of the above combined, programming to vote and to recite lines from books ( AKA female ideology and spirituality ) included. When it comes to truly 'groundbreaking' distinctions, AWALT. All the female dating profiles on reddit might as well be procedurally generated templates of each other, starkly separate from the male ones. When it comes to opinions, when is the last time that the women of AskWomen, of TrollX, of IT, of CreepyPM's, of Tumblr, anywhere, had a major debate or fracture over something to the extent male demographics do? What's the number of women coming here, or to ForeverAlone, or to Men'sRights ( While there are female MRA's like the HoneyBadgers, check out the ratio between female MRA's to male feminists ) or to MGTOW in order to get our perspective things in a non-confrontational way to the same extent men visit even the most radical female spaces to offer their whiteknighting support? When was the last time female IT users disagree with each other about men's role in the universe? When was the last time a woman went 'Nobody wants to date an X' and instead of getting 5000 upvotes and 'yu go gurl' from other women, got a debate from other women instead, similarly to how there are always men who would be willing to say they wouldn't mind something in a woman that even most people would, including extreme insecurities or mental illnesses or weight or clinginess or what have you? Ein gender, Ein matriarchy, Ein hamster.

Well, is the unified female monolith at least a force of goodness? It is not. Let us actually skip over the known and rehashed attributes of hypergamy, superficiality, manipulativeness, capriciousness, solipsism and frivolity which have earned femininity the scathing rebukes it's received from pretty much almost every society to ever walk the earth until the point where they leveraged sex in order to shame everyone from even thinking about doing it. Let's focus on how women perceive themselves to be on their 'best behavior', which, you might be surprised to find out, is not at all working in their favor coming as it is from a brain so philosophically bankrupt and so out of tune with the evolutionary higher faculties of ( And I don't mean intelligence, that is what they think it means, because they can't grasp it ) mankind that it doesn't realize why would anyone reject it's framework.

Pardon me in advance for the upcoming rant, but one can't really enter the female mindspace properly without it - "I want a man who has his shit together! You better have some ambitions, you better have some accomplishments if you want to be with me! I WANT ( I want I want I want I want I wannnnnnt ) a guy who isn't afraid to take what he wants, who is assertive and dominant and aggressive when he needs to be, don't be a fucking doormat, don't be NEEDY ew, although I myself am insecure about my body and need someone to motivate me for the gym and baby me in my DD/lg fetish teehee, oh and for god's sake have some SOCIAL GRACES. Be confident and charming, don't you know how important social graces are? I want a functional man, not a boy, you have to know what you're doing."

Speaking of the monolith, can you find any female profile on r4r which isn't like that in whole or in part, in spirit if not in the explicit and intentionally highlighted priorities? Try it. Now, the average woman looks at the above and thinks to herself "Yass queen SLAY", this is peak performance to her. She considers this to be the most wholesome, deep, reasonable attitude humanly attainable. Thanks to the decadent evil empire and gynocentric atmosphere that we've been under the spell of for a long time now, maybe even you might fail to see the absolute sewage that underlines the gung-ho tirade at first glance.

You know what I see? I seen an application for a sycophantic leech, not a love interest. A total obsession with materialistic, external pursuits and one's position in the societal rat race due to incapability of actually loving anyone for who they are as opposed to what they do, and seeing them as 'success objects' in the same vein that women complain of men only evaluating them as 'sex objects'. I see a total bratty, undeveloped obsession with one of philosophy's biggest vices ( Big surprise, remember the role of women in morality and philosophy? ) - judging a book by it's cover rather than it's content and caring to an extreme length about how someone says something as opposed to what they're saying, which is part and parcel of hindbrain herd behavior. Women are under the impression that their fanatic obsession in that regard is a virtue, and that a good man is one who adapts to it rather than discounts it. It is not, there's a reason why it doesn't figure so prominently in men's dating profiles. And finally, yet another glaring whimsical and infantile female habit which they credit to their superiority - the lack of willingness to give someone any leeway or acceptance whatsoever, to put principle and ideal above ego and feelings, once again, a cornerstone of advanced morality. And once again, something that almost every man instinctively does for women. Put aside the 'muh social skills' ( Or more correctly, women skills, because they're the only ones demanding all the crazy eggshell-stepping ) and 'muh assertiveness', and put themselves in the shoes of the other side, and try to find goodness at the most fundamental level that it really matters, because they have this non-Darwinian sensation and guideline deep down inside of "I should be magnanimous moreso than I am judgemental". Does that ever happen? You can tell from the dating profiles, the answer is obviously not. And that's what makes the female personality what it is.

And this is just one sliver of the grander shit-show. Plenty has been written about the shit-tests even once you're already in a relationship, the double standards, the branch-swinging if you ever fail the shit-test, the mental games, and all for what - the craved female submission state, which let me emphasize, is not 'love' in any sense. The condition which is reached whereupon the female has deemed you to be a successful status/gene leeching target and begins feigning ( Naturally she'll say it isn't feigned, until you stop being Chad to her, and become her "abusive and toxic ex" ) all the sticky affection and sexual favors associated with the 'positive' aspects of female personality, like a colorful and inviting carnivorous plant attracting a fly inside. But any incel which understands the entire process, upon it's carnal pros and philosophical cons, is also one who will never be compatible with a woman, even if he attained physical desirability.

kingjameswriter1965 #fundie ihatetheinternetbutilovejesus.com

“Fight Song” Will Lose The Fight!!

I’ve heard this song that is used by the homosexual movement for “empowerment” to their God-hating cause. It makes me cringe how the singer uses lyrics so blatantly against God and morals. In other words she’s saying nothing can change her mind and she’ll do what she wants to do, and will even fight for it, thus spitting in the face of the Almighty. Well, let me tell you God-haters, you and this person and all who reject Christ will one day soon stand naked before God, and you’ll have no cloak (covering) for your sin. Sound like I’m talking Bible? Yep, you’re right. I sure am. Somebody’s got to take a stand for God!!

...

Here’s the song’s lyrics:


Like a small boat
On the ocean
Sending big waves
Into motion
Like how a single word
Can make a heart open
I might only have one match
But I can make an explosion (right there begins the rebellion against God)

And all those things I didn’t say
Wrecking balls inside my brain (the Devil will torture your mind)
I will scream them loud tonight (Satan wants you to scream and carry on like a demon possessed maniac, but God speaks in the still, small voice)
Can you hear my voice this time? (Satan will also drive you and scream in your ear to do what he wants, which is rebel, disobey, live how you want, etc., but he pays in counterfeit money and will NEVER show you the consequences!)

This is my fight song
Take back my life song (You think you can run your life, but it’s GOD Who allows you to keep breathing)
Prove I’m alright song (You’re not all right, in God’s eyes you’re all WRONG!!)

My power’s turned on
Starting right now I’ll be strong (Strong, standing for what? AIDS?? HIV?? REALLY??)
I’ll play my fight song (you’re fighting against the most powerful Being in creation)
And I don’t really care if nobody else believes (Well, GOD cares, and so will you when you stand before Him having to give account of your life to Him)
‘Cause I’ve still got a lot of fight left in me (You may now, but your day is coming and you won’t have any fight left then)

Losing friends and I’m chasing sleep
Everybody’s worried about me
In too deep
Say I’m in too deep in too deep
And it’s been two years I miss my home
But there’s a fire burning in my bones
Still believe
Yeah, I still believe (yeah, believe (falsely) that you can get away with shaking your fist at God)


Then it goes on to repeat itself with its meaningless mantra of “got a lot of fight left in me,” blah blah blah, etc, etc. Gimme a break. This trash should be OUTLAWED!! But it WILL ONE DAY, when KING JESUS comes back and purges this cursed world with FIRE!!

www.evolutionfairytale.com #fundie evolutionfairytale.com

[More lying for Jesus]

PRESS RELEASE, NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC

DENVER April 1, 2000 - A new fossil has been found that may throw a huge wrench into the current evolutionary paradigm for the origin of elephants. Univ. of Colorado biology professor Scott L. Eugenie commented that "we might as well throw out the elephant with the bathwater, if we accept this fossil as what it appears to be".

The fossil was discovered in a lava bed in the southern part of the Congo, near the small village of Geheradhanda. It was in a layer suggesting it originated from the Cretaceous period some 50 million years ago. The main fossil appears to be that of a trunk, while other fragments found 50 yards away appear to be imprints of feathers! This new discovery is shaking the evolutionary community. Many scientists are jumping on the flying bandwagon, others are jumping into the sea and sticking with the aquatic hypothesis. Harvard paleontologist Stephen Gould is skeptical: "I still think the elephant can trace his great, great ancestor to a fish". Others disagree. Richard Dawkins of Cambridge was ecstatic "flying elephants seem very feasible to me. This fossil demonstrates clearly and irrevocably this apparent certainty". He went on to add "I knew we would find more transitional fossils, I can't wait to hear what the creationists have to say!". The fossil has been dubbed Elaphantavianicus Bigfairytalicus.

Society of Flat Earth Debunkers #conspiracy themillenniumreport.com

The Flat Earthers Are Being Sent Into Every Real Truth Movement To Disrupt And Destroy Them, Especially The Planet X Groups

by Society of Flat Earth Debunkers

If ever there was a PSYOP designed to distract, divert and misdirect, the thoroughly insane Flat Earth Theory (FET) is the one. Never in the history of black operations have the co-conspirators been so fierce and fanatical in their mission to deceive and dupe.

Just what is that covert mission? To effectively blow up every internet chat room, forum and blog that has many meaningful discussion about Planet X, formerly known as the 10th Planet. Planet X is the real megillah that everyone has been tying to hide for decades. Simply put, its profound ramifications are so far-reaching and highly consequential that TPTB cannot risk the people catching on. Hence, along comes the Flat Earth Theory to change the conversation into absolute and utter gibberish.

Anyone who knows how COINTELPRO really works will tell you that these Flat Earthers have been carefully cultivated in some serious mind-control programming experiments. Whenever they encounter any resistance to their utterly absurd FET hallucinations, they literally go ballistic. However, they do so with great purpose and calculation. Their studied responses are quite manipulative, just as their triggered reactions are practically inhuman.

Just go to one of the big chat rooms and hang out in one that has made the Flat Earth Theory the topic of discussion. Watch the intensity on the side of the Flat Earthers, especially the way that they deceptively advance their daft arguments. It’s almost as though these folks (probably droids) have been fabricated in some laboratory somewhere in Andromeda. Their thought process is not human, and the practiced sophistry that they routinely employ in downright otherworldly as in AI gone awry in an evil Grey lab in Area 51.

BOTTOM LINE:
There is no good reason to confront a Flat Earther—Anywhere, Anytime or Anyway. They have proven themselves to be incapable of exercising their faculty of human reason. Likewise, they completely lack any common sense and the ability to utilize basic logic. The Flat Earthers were somehow brainwashed in such a way that they can spontaneously suspend the use of their intellect. Most of them lack the capacity to even discern between a simple right and wrong answer to a question which is obviously black and white. For real, these dunces can’t even answer “Yes” or “No” when asked if the sky — RIGHT NOW — is blue or green, when it is a perfectly deep blue sky. Yes, they have completely left the reservation of rationality and reason. They’re either permanently “Out To Lunch”, forever “AWOL”, and “There’s Nobody Home”. We’re talking the complete absence of even an iota of intellectual integrity. Do you now get the picture? (-: Actually, it ought to be )-:

The bottom line, then, is NOT to waste your time with the Flat Earthers. Their primary function is to waste your time … mightily! As well as to distract you from much more important things that are going on everywhere, all the time. During these times, when things are moving VERY fast, no one on the planet has a second to waste. So why spend a moment in debate with a veritable idiocracy of Flat Earth nonsense?!?!

If you really knew that this whole Flat Earth PSYOP was a full-blown DARPA-conceived, CIA-directed, NSA-monitored, DIA-driven black operation, would you continue to given them any energy whatsoever? Well, now you know. Perhaps some folks enjoy the journey into the realm of the extremely deranged; however, be aware that these Flat Earthers know exactly what they’re doing and that you may find yourself trapped off in a fictitious space-time continuum of puerile phantasmagoria and mentally challenged pseudo-entertainment. BEWARE, and be aware, of where they might be taking you.

DISCLAIMER:
The Society of Flat Earth Debunkers (SFED) perfectly understands that NASA does not tell the truth about anything ever, unless they must. The SFED also knows that there are many scientific laws and maxims, theories and hypotheses which are falling apart by the day. We put no stock in the many falsehoods and propagated by the scientific establishment. However, that doesn’t mean that doesn’t mean that everything that comes out of NASA is bunk. After all, they did know enough to launch a space shuttle every now and then. More importantly, the Russians would have given up the International Space Station years ago if all NASA science and technology was falsely concocted. Would you send up your cosmonauts if the math was all wrong?

Anonymous #fundie debunkingchristianity.blogspot.com

To those of you who have left the Christian faith, I'm asking you to stop and think for a minute about what I have to say to you. The Christian faith is not about following a bunch of rules, it's not a religion. Christianity is coming into personal, experiential, and intimate relationship with God.
For me it all started when I was thirteen. While outside playing ball, I was running and I jumped up to get the ball and when I came down I fell on a piece of metal sticking out of the ground and it split me open from my waist to my shoulder. My friends carried my bloody torn up body into the house where my mother (a Christian) put a towel over the wound and prayed for me. After a few minutes of silence she took off the towel and in amazement said "My God!!" The wound had completely scabbed over and after twenty minutes it was almost all gone. I was sore for a few days and I still have the scar to remind me this really did happen. I have had several other instances in my life that I cannot attribute to anything less than supernatural.
Christianity is not a philosophy to me nor is it a matter of intellectual debate, It is a relationship with a loving God. I am a Christian because I have experienced God firsthand more than once.

kvat3r #fundie rr-bb.com

I realized, why would an athiest be worried about me filling his daughters head with doctrine, unless somewhere deep inside he believes somehow there is some truth in it. An athiest doesnt believe in God, so why would he worry about my so called doctrine?????

Alan S. Hartzog #fundie drmsh.com

The flat earth is a lot like the bible. The bigots with closed minds always want to speak out. Those who have studied and researched the least are those who oppose thinkingbfor them selves the most. Many people who, like you, haven't done their home work, would bash the bible, and call believers stupid. You discarding your own followers ideas is a sign of immaturity, pride and everything YHWH dislikes about haughty humans. There is no love or understanding of love, scripture, or a flat earth in your pompous opinions. You would rather spout out at those who you say follow you than to research deep, for yourself and draw you own unbiased opinion. You have obviously been brainwashed, hypnotized and taught well to regurgitate the teachings of the world rather that seeking humbly in prayer for what YHWH says. He should know best. Remember, YHWH says the wisdom and knowledge of this world is foolishness to the creator. "Science so called" is foolishness to YAH. The ancients were much more aware of the earth, luminaries, and how things really work that today's bubblegum, microwave, Netflix, Facebook, skinny jeans culture will ever be. You should do your research before you draw conclusions about things you think you understand but are, in reality, blind to. I pray in the name of YAHAWASHI, TO THE FATHER AND CREATOR OF THE UNIVERSE YAHAWAH, that he would humble your spirit, open your eyes, and bend you backward that you may reach and find the truth, not only about the flat earth but also about your own evil judgments and I'll spoken words. Amen!

The Last Trump #fundie christiannews.net

Something had to just BE. No matter what one believes there has to be a starting point. And we have absolutely no idea what HIS environment is like outside of our universe which science has indeed proven to have had a beginning, a starting point, an explosion of light just like the Bible had told us.

What you know as MAGIC I know as God.
Have a better explanation for the clear and unmistakable intelligent design we see everywhere we look? Exactly.
NOTHING cannot create ANYTHING.

And there is no more ridiculous an argument than stuff just created itself! Without reason or purpose. That is simply not what we see.
And that's why real scientists today are rejecting the religion of evolution and embracing what the data is telling them. Intelligent Design.
It's so painfully obvious that it's astounding.
That the scientifically ignorant and uneducated still cling to their completely disproven religion of evolution.

Not my opinion. Scientific fact. Design. Not a mathematically disproven series of remarkable "accidents". Check it out.
You'll be glad you did. Science is your friend. :)

Dr. Max D. Younce #fundie heritagebbc.com

WHAT ABOUT SUICIDE AS INFLUENCED BY REINCARNATION?

There are different reasons and situations that contribute to the cause of one taking his own life. (There is an astounding amount of teenage suicide in America today.)

1. A teenager has experienced the alcohol, sex, and drug maze , concluding, “If this is all there is to life, then what is the use of living.” So, he, or she, takes his own life.

2. A teenager, whose mind has been scrambled by drug use, thinks he can fly. They go to the top of a building, jump out the window and “fly” to their death.

3. A teenager, hallucinating on drugs, goes to a bridge, jumps off and drowns; never thinking of the consequences.

4. I know of a case where a girlfriend broke off her relationship with her boyfriend. He went out and shot himself to death. (It is sad that people can’t realize that relationships can be temporary; but, death is permanent!)

5. Some have experienced such a “high” on drugs that they continually crave the experience. This has led to many deaths by OD.

6. Despondency over accumulated debts to the point where there appears to be no way to resolve the situation. The home is about to be foreclosed on. The car is about to be repossessed and their wages are about to be garnisheed. Suicide results as they picture themselves enclosed in a vault with no door of exit.
These are but a handful of situations that could lead to one taking his own life.
NOW, I would like for you to apply to the above situations the damnable, satanic philosophy of reincarnation, as projected by the cults of Unity School of Christianity, The Theosophical Society, and the New Age Movement. Remember, they have “brainwashed” the gullible that there is NO HELL; and, that no matter what you have done previously, upon death you will be reincarnated into another body. In other words, with each incarnation you will do better until all sin is purged. Believing this, you have extinguished the fear of death in your mind. I wonder…how many suicides have been influenced by this kind of humanistic philosophy?

cosmodave69 #fundie youtube.com

How dumb are Flat Earthers?
Better question is how dumb is everybody else?
Answer:Daytime moon proves flat earth...Cause you cant show me our world is a globe without NASA But I can show you our world is flat much faster When the sun is high up in the sky you can clearly see the moon proving NASAs greatest lie...that is how dumb everyone else is....btw...if that sounds like a song its because it is...keep hating!!!Globalists?

KettleWhistle #fundie israelforum.com

What is called 'Science' today and 'scientists' consist of the same old gang of witch doctors, sorcerers, tellers of tales, the 'Priest-Entertainers' for the common people. 'Science' consists of a weird, way-out occult concoction of jibberish theory-theology... nothing good has ever come from 'science' --- In fact, technology is not in any way related to the web of idiotic scientific theory. ALL inventors have been anti-science. The Wright brothers said: "Science theory held us up for years. When we threw out all science, started from experiment and experience, then we invented the airplane." By the way, airplanes all fly level on this Plane earth!

The Fact the Earth is Flat is not my opinion, it is a Proved Fact! While all we need to know is that the Bible says the Earth is flat (Is.40:22, Ez.7:2, Dn.2:35; 4:10-11,20, Mt.4:8)... but for a second can you imagine what these so-called 'scientists would have us believe --- If the earth really was round, that would mean there arre people who are HANGING DOWN, HEAD DOWNWARDS while we are standing head up? But since the theory allows to travel to those parts of the earth where the people are said to hand head downward, and still to fancy ourselves to be heads upwards, and our friends whom we have left behind us to be heads downwards! LOL! What foolishness! TheWHOLE THING IS A MYTH - A DREAM - A DELUSION - and a snare, and, instead of there being any evidence at all in this direction to substantiate this popular theory, it is plain proof that the Earth is Not A Globe!

Also, be sure to know the Sun and Moon are about 3,000 miles away are both 32 miles across. The Planets are 'tiny.' Sun and Moon do Move, earth does NOT move, whirl, spin or gyrate (1 Sam.2:8, 1 Chr.16:30; Job 9:6, 38:4-6; Ps.96:10, 104:5, Is.13:10, Mic.6:2). Australians do NOT hang by their feet under the world... this is a FACT, not a theory! Also a Fact the Spinning, Whirling, Gyrating Ball World Planet, Globe Idea is Entirely 100% now and at all times in the Past, a RELIGIOUS DOCTRINE... a Blind Dogmatic Article of Faith in the Religion for the Blind unreasoning beast of prey. No earthly reason for a Sane, Upright Member of the Elite True Christians to subscribe to it. Also a Fact, today the Elite of Earth ALL live on the Flat World. Only the illogical, unreasoning "herd"... prefers the way-out occult weird theology of the old Greek superstitution earth a spinning ball! Both Copernecious and Newton, the inventors of the "modern" superstitions (400 year OLD modern) have said: "It is not possible for a Sane reasonable person to ever really believe these Theories." Thus sayeth Newton-Copernecious. What sayeth THOU?

Byron Bayh Jr #fundie new.facebook.com

"Your ignorance and blind hatred are the kind of reasons that Christianity is not taught in public schools. Who wants to learn about a faith that promotes contempt, hate, anger, jealousy, pride, and ignorance? Christians are the face of God on Earth. You'd best be watching what example you make of the God you claim such love for."

It does promote contempt, but only of people who deserve it. We don't hate everybody - just homosexuals, abortionists and athiests, and others who have turned their backs to God. Everybody else is fine.

Donnely McLeod #fundie sociocide.com

People hate athiest because athiest hate them. And admit it... you do. You, the athiest, hate 'religionist' with an unfettered passion. I think its somewhat plain to see that while a 'religionist' probably wants to 'save' you you wouldn't spit on 'em if they were on fire. All athiest, not far below the surface, hate believers. Period. I have RARELY seen a 'religionist', in a forum start a thread about evolutiuon. I cannot recall EVER seeing a 'religionist' start a thread about how much he despises athiest and their worldview.

It is instinctive to distrust liars. In my opinion athiest are liars to the core. They are dishonest about their real reason for being an athiest; the masturbation of the conscience. And athiest lie about 'respecting everyone'. That is just plain bullshit. I'm not the one hiding behind a mask saying, 'I respect your views and you're entitled to them.' I don't respect your self righteous views and regard aids patient fecal matter in higher esteem. I just wish you (the athiest) would admit the truth: you hate me because I believe there is a god, and you hate god because and you want to fuck my sister... or maybe even me.

Indonesian Flat Earth Society #fundie straitstimes.com

Indonesian space institute under siege by flat Earth believers

As the National Institute of Aeronautics and Space (LAPAN) is striving to achieve its goals to advance the country's technology and aeronautical field, it is facing an anachronistic problem that has been emerging recently: Flat Earth believers.

The group, which became a social media phenomenon last year, believes the Earth is flat instead of round. They often cite modern conspiracy theories, as well as literal, non-mainstream readings of the holy scriptures, as the basis of their statements.

Believers of the theory have been swarming LAPAN's social media accounts for months, including a Facebook group of which the institution head Thomas Djamaluddin is a member. Their only purpose: to challenge the simple fact that the Earth is spherical.

This has forced Thomas to purge the group of any users that push this archaic point of view, by deleting their comments and blocking them from the group.

"This attempt is meant to(keep) the discussion useful for others to learn (about aeronautics and space). The fairytale of a flat earth is a public duping attempt," Thomas wrote in the group on Oct. 9.

LAPAN spokesman Christianus Dewanto told The Jakarta Post on Tuesday (Oct 17) that he regretted the appearance of such challenging comments after LAPAN had welcomed flat-earthers to its offices for a discussion. "The discussion was intense," he said.

He referred to a meeting between Thomas and a representative from the Indonesian Flat Earth Society at LAPAN's offices in Jakarta late last year.

Thomas, who is an astronomy and astrophysics professor, discussed every subject under the sun with the flat-earth believer.

Among the topics discussed was the size of the sun, with the flat-earther arguing that the sun looks bigger in the morning. The professor stressed that the sun's size remains the same throughout the day; the apparent difference is created by the Earth's atmosphere refracting the light.

After the meeting, Thomas uploaded an 80-minute video containing the discussion on his blog.

Christianus said he understood this was all about mindset, and it would be a tough task to influence it. "We don't have a problem with that as we will provide them with scientific facts that are as clear as possible."

First expressed during the time of the Ancient Greeks, the flat-earth misconception has often reared its head over the centuries. The latest reappearance occurred last year when many people posted videos on YouTube, in which they claimed that the concept of a round Earth was part of a global conspiracy theory.

In Indonesia, the misconception has found its supporters, with a Facebook group named Indonesian Flat Earth Society having attracted more than 20,500 members, as of Tuesday.

However, media sociologist Ario Seto Hardjana from the University of Indonesia (UI) told the Post that it was an oversimplification to blame social media for the appearance of flat-earthers in Indonesia.

"This phenomenon could be the tip of the iceberg. There are several members of society who have yet to believe in science because of the inability of education institutions to teach the general public to be more rational."

The belief, Ario added, was catalysed by other members of society who had yet to exclude such baseless assumptions from the public discourse.

"We should be worried as this, among other similar things, could lead to a post-truth society phenomenon where scientific truth can be easily ignored."

Not Perfect But Forgiven #fundie rr-bb.com

But we have to keep in mind that birth pangs get stronger the closer we are to the anticipated event. This breather is the only chance we'll get to brace ourselves for the next contraction, which could be the one that takes us home. These are our last days on this planet as we know it my friend. Very soon, we will be immortal beings in the direct presence of God Himself. We are about to see, hear, touch, and smell things previously only available to Christians who passed through the corridors of death and into eternal glory. There is a deep longing inside of us all for this rollercoaster ride to end. It is hard. One day it seems like you can almost hear the trumpet, and the very next day you wonder if the Rapture isn't 20 years off. What makes it harder is that we know exactly what we are waiting for.

We know that we are citizens of Heaven itself through Christ Jesus. We belong to a kingdom whose beauty 1,000 of the most talented soul stirring poets who ever lived could never describe given eternity. We will see things there that will could bring a mortal man to tears with its beauty. We will see the crystalline perfection of God's throne, as old as eternity. We will hear songs that make you want to jump in the air with sheer joy. We will see the angels flying over us, the swoosh of their wings rustling our robes. Our mansions are there, and best of all, our Savior is there. He is coming for Us, and as always, He will do it at the exact right time according to God the Fathers's plan. He is coming for you, and you will never forget the moment He first held you, the trumpet heard across the world by all believers. Don't give up, we are so close. You are almost there. He's coming at the exact right moment.

God Bless You (smiley)

Wulf Ingessunu #fundie inglinga.blogspot.co.uk

What we appear to have here is an explanation for the German Foo-Fighters which were recorded during World War II and which seemed to fly of their own power and volition. This may or may not be so but Landzig may well have known about these and if so knew their origins. These seem to be a 'representation of the morphogenetic grid' which has something to do with what is called the Morphogenetic Field. This is simply a blueprint that stores information form how something is formed - like a 'blueprint' for the human shape or parts of the body etc. At least that is how I understand the concept. The Morphogenetic Grid, I am assuming, is linked to the Earth-Grid (Grid is an Earth-Giantess) and to Sacred Geometry.

These are 'fourth-dimensional interfaces with the Life-Force itself'; that is, this stems directly from the Life-Force of the Cosmos. They have something to do with what is called Thought-Forms (Tulkas) which are projected, vessels of creation. The power to manifest these appears to be what is called the Vril-Force.

This gives an explanation as to what the 'Balls of Light' are in the field of UFOs; these are not the 'Flying Saucers' spoken of by Viktor Schauberger and the sightings of these over the past few decades. They may be the 'Balls of Light' seen over the fields that have produced Crop-Circles; these have been photographed as one crop-circle was being made. I have myself witnessed a 'Ball of Light' passing across the skies at the time of the Hale-Bopp Comet. This was certainly not a 'Flying Saucer' but obviously a 'Ball of Light'; we have to distinguish between the two.

In the book the flying machines used to transport the subjects of the book are called by the name 'V-7' and referred to as a 'Spinning Disc'. Here we are in the realms of a physical spinning saucer-shaped disc. A flight to Prague is done in a Dostra Maschine which is some 45 metres long and made of Quettschmetall or 'crimp-metal' which is a highly compressed metal. This can do 830 kilometres per hour.

ChaybaChayba #fundie dreamviews.com

I said atheism is completely pointless.

I challenge you to try and show me the point of atheism.

How does "believing God doesn't exist" make you any wiser? It's like one sentence. I already memorized that sentence, therefore I already memorized the whole of atheism, and atheism can't learn me anything new anymore.

TRUMPINATOR #conspiracy godlikeproductions.com

COVID Proves Flat Earth Theory

Most virus models for the US show the virus is spreading
slower than expected. Those models are implicitly based
on a ball earth model.

Under the flat earth mode, the virus has to travel a further
distance, which means the virus takes longer to spread,
exactly what the current ball models are saying.

Try it for yourself.

[link to walter.bislins.ch]

Under flat earth model, the virus often has to travel
over TWICE as far. That means instead of infected within
a 6 ft radius, it's really infected within a 4 ft (
or less) radius, lower infectivity.

Various #fundie answers.yahoo.com

777: if you fly on a plane do you ever wonder if the pilot and copilot are both Christains?

sundertheshadows: It has been rumored that they have one Pilot Christian and one athiest or agnostic so when the rapture happens the athiest or agnostic can fly the plane.

777: sounds good to me

Mark Mywords #fundie youtube.com

Freeman: Joel is right, the earth is not flat. For the flat earthers out there, why can polaris only be seen from the northern hemisphere? The southern hemisphere will never see polaris. This proves the earth is round.?

Mark Mywords: I don't Freeman, why can I see cities that are over the curve of the earth, when, based on distance and Earth's curvature, it should be impossible? Joel is a false teacher. Proof is in how he mis-uses the Bible to make it say whatever he wants it to.?


Freeman: Answer my question, then I will answer yours. Its simple fact that the north star cannot be seen from the southern hemisphere, but everyone when in the northern hemisphere can see it. When at the equator it will only be on your horizon, while at the north pole it will be at your zenith. How do you explain this??

Mark Mywords: I don't have an answer to your question, I haven't gotten that far (that's my answer). Instead I can do "real" science (observable and repeatable). Know the distance between two points, knowing the earth's curvature and using my telescope, I can see cities are impossible to see on "your" ball earth. Proving that the Earth is NOT a ball. And the Bible does NOT support a Heliocentric universe (unless you misuse the Bible the way Richarson and Heiser do).?

Mark Mywords: Once we know the Earth is flat (and it is) we don't have to keep proving it over and over. We progress to the question "why?". Why are people lying about the shape of the Earth? Why do christians believe these lies? And the answers take us to the source and understanding of it all: There are a religious group of people who are dedicated to making their religion both "the" religion and "the" government of the who world. They accomplish this by deceiving all people, from childhood (schools) to adulthood. Anyone who discovers the truth is called a "Conspiracy Theorist" or a "Moron." by those who are still under the delusion. Only a few people ever look into thinhs enough to find out what is really going on.That makes you, Joel, and Heisner all under this delusion. Blind, but arrogant of their "supposed" knowledge. You are a member of a Pagan Church that began 5000 years ago, and has survived until today. And you don't even know it....so sad.?

Freeman: Mark Mywords Cities being visible on the horizon does not prove the earth is flat. If a sailboat is on the horizon of the sea and you were looking at it with a telescope, you would still see the sails; however, the hull would not be seen as it is underneath the horizon line caused by the curvature of the earth. The same is true of buildings. You can see a tall building miles and miles on the horizon, because it rises well above the horizon line. You would not be able to see ALL of the building though as some of it will be hidden. I gave you the simplest way to prove that the earth is round. Ask anyone in Australia if they can see Polaris... they can't! Just as many in the northern hemisphere will never see the southern cross. Another example is the shadow that the earth casts on the moon is ROUND during an eclipse, or do you believe that is faked as well and the moon is artificial? Go outside and check for yourself with your telescope the next lunar eclipse. These are all verifiable facts. If you search for the truth without a confirmation bias through the help of the Holy Spirit., you will find the truth.?

Mark Mywords: Freeman...that is incorrect. We can see way more of cities over lakes than we should be according the Earth's Curvature. This has been proven by science (both observable and repeatable). As for sailboats, that was solved by the same perspective. When the boat is far enough away, you shouldn't see "any" of the boat. And yet, we can. You really don't understand the curvature of the Earth, or you wouldn't be arguing it so poorly. And since Flat Earth is so far behind, because of the many of years of Ball-Earth indoctrination, it will take time for the truth to be understood. You understand things from a pagan point of view. Who does the Bible say is the "god" of this world? Do you believe that we evolved from monkeys and rocks? Not if you believe the Bible. And if the "world" lies about where man comes from, what makes you think you can trust anything it says/teaches? You are still listening to the "god" of this world, which according to the Bible, is Satan. As for the Holy Spirit, I have the Word of God, and the Holy Spirit confirms the Word. Try doing a search on the countless Scripture that denies the Heliocentric and Globe Earth Model, without using the false teachings of Joel Richardson and Michael Heisner. People like these shouldn't be teaching the Bible at all.?

Freeman: Mark Mywords I have made my case. I'm done trying to support it. You don't have anything to say about the shadow of the earth on the moon being circular during a lunar eclipse though, huh? Either way, at the end of the day it's not a doctrine of salvation. I can believe the earth is round and you can believe the earth is flat. Fine. We will both go to heaven even if we disagree, and God will make all things clear as Luke 8:17 tells us. May God bless you, and I wish you the best.?

Mark Mywords: I have already proven Flat Earth by the "lack" of curvature. It really doesn't get any simpler than that. You should look into it. Why would I need to care about the shadow of the moon, Polaris, or any other attempt to fool me back into the satanic delusions of this world? I have "seen" the Flat Earth with my own eyes. Why would I need pseudo-science to try to fool me again? If you really believe the Bible, then read the many verses that disprove the Heliocentric Globe Model, which you received by faith, from the "world." (satan's kingdom). Otherwise, how can you truly understand what God has made? And if you won't do it, then stop preaching a lie that you clearly don't understand. You are deceiving other Christians and keeping them from learning the truth, just as Joel and Michael do by twisting the Bible to say what they want it to, rather than reading for what it says.?

Eric Dubay #conspiracy atlanteanconspiracy.com

Gravity Does Not Exist!

If you fill a balloon with helium, a substance lighter than the nitrogen, oxygen and other elements which compose the air around it, the balloon will immediately fly upwards. If you fill a balloon with hydrogen, a substance even lighter than helium, the balloon will fly upwards even faster. If you blow a dandelion seed out of your hands, a substance just barely heavier than the air, it will float away and slowly but eventually fall to the ground. And if you drop an anvil from your hands, something much heavier than the air, it will quickly and directly fall straight to the ground. Now, this has absolutely nothing to do with “gravity.” The fact that light things rise up and heavy things fall down is simply a natural property of weight. That is very different from “gravity.” Gravity is a hypothetical magnetic-like force possessed by large masses which Isaac Newton needed to help explain the heliocentric theory of the universe.

“Most people in England have either read, or heard, that Sir Isaac Newton’s theory of gravitation was originated by his seeing an apple fall to the earth from a tree in his garden. Persons gifted with ordinary common-sense would say that the apple fell down to the earth because, bulk for bulk, it was heavier than the surrounding air; but if, instead of the apple, a fluffy feather had been detached from the tree, a breeze would probably have sent the feather floating away, and the feather would not reach the earth until the surrounding air became so still that, by virtue of its own density, the feather would fall to the ground.” -Lady Blount, “Clarion’s Science Versus God’s Truth” (40)

Wilbur Voliva, a famous flat-Earther in the early 20th century, gave lectures all over America against Newtonian astronomy. He would begin by walking on stage with a book, a balloon, a feather and a brick, and ask the audience: “How is it that a law of gravitation can pull up a toy balloon and cannot put up a brick? I throw up this book. Why doesn’t it go on up? That book went up as far as the force behind it forced it and it fell because it was heavier than the air and that is the only reason. I cut the string of a toy balloon. It rises, gets to a certain height and then it begins to settle. I take this brick and a feather. I blow the feather. Yonder it goes. Finally, it begins to settle and comes down. This brick goes up as far as the force forces it and then it comes down because it is heavier than the air. That is all.”

“Any object which is heavier than the air, and which is unsupported, has a natural tendency to fall by its own weight. Newton's famous apple at Woolsthorpe, or any other apple when ripe, loses hold of its stalk, and, being heavier than the air, drops as a matter of necessity, to the ground, totally irrespective of any attraction of the Earth. For, if such attraction existed, why does not the Earth attract the rising smoke which is not nearly so heavy as the apple? The answer is simple - because the smoke is lighter than the air, and, therefore, does not fall but ascends. Gravitation is only a subterfuge, employed by Newton in his attempt to prove that the Earth revolves round the Sun, and the quicker it is relegated to the tomb of all the Capulets, the better will it be for all classes of society.” -David Wardlaw Scott, “Terra Firma” (8)

“The ‘law of gravitation’ is said by the advocates of the Newtonian system of astronomy, to be the greatest discovery of science, and the foundation of the whole of modern astronomy. If, therefore, it can be shown that gravitation is a pure assumption, and an imagination of the mind only, that it has no existence outside of the brains of its expounders and advocates, the whole of the hypotheses of this modern so-called science fall to the ground as flat as the surface of the ocean, and this ‘most exact of all sciences,’ this wonderful ‘feat of the intellect’ becomes at once the most ridiculous superstition and the most gigantic imposture to which ignorance and credulity could ever be exposed.” -Thomas Winship, “Zetetic Cosmogeny” (36)

Einstein’s theory of relativity and the entire heliocentric model of the universe hinges upon Newton’s “law of gravitation.” Heliocentrists claim that the Sun is the most massive object in the heavens, more massive even than the Earth, and therefore the Earth and other planets by “law” are caught up in the Sun’s “gravity” and forced to orbit perpetual circles/ellipses around it. They claim that gravity also somehow allows people, buildings, the oceans, and all of nature to exist on the under-side of their “ball-Earth” without falling off.

Now, even if gravity did exist, why would it cause both planets to orbit the Sun and people to stick to the Earth? Gravity should either cause people to float in suspended circular orbits around the Earth, or it should cause the Earth to be pulled and crash into the Sun! What sort of magic is “gravity” that it can glue people’s feet to the ball-Earth, while causing Earth itself to revolve ellipses round the Sun? The two effects are very different yet the same cause is attributed to both.

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Furthermore, this magnetic-like attraction of massive objects gravity is purported to have can be found nowhere in the natural world. There is no example in nature of a massive sphere or any other shaped-object which by virtue of its mass alone causes smaller objects to stick to or orbit around it! There is nothing on Earth massive enough that it can be shown to cause even a dust-bunny to stick to or orbit around it! Try spinning a wet tennis ball or any other spherical object with smaller things placed on its surface and you will find that everything falls or flies off, and nothing sticks to or orbits it. To claim the existence of a physical “law” without a single practical evidential example is hearsay, not science.

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How is it that “gravity” is so strong that it can hold all the oceans, buildings and people stuck to the under-side of the ball-Earth, but so weak that it allows birds, bugs, smoke, and balloons to casually evade its grips completely!? How is it that “gravity” holds our bodies clung to the under-side of the ball-Earth, but yet we can easily raise our legs and arms, walk or jump and feel no such constant downward pulling force? How is it that “gravity” can cause planets to revolve elliptical orbits around a single center of attraction? Ellipses by nature require two foci, and the force of gravitation would have to regularly increase and decrease to keep planets in constant orbit and prevent pulling them into direct collision courses!

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Heliocentrists claim the ball-Earth is perpetually spinning on its axis at a mind-numbing 1,038 miles per hour, or 19 miles per second, and somehow people, animals, buildings, oceans, and other surface phenomena can stick to the under-side of the spinning ball without falling or flying off. Take a ride on the “Gravitron” at your local amusement park, however, and notice how the faster it spins, the more you are pushed away from the center of spin, not towards it. Even if the centripetal (inward pulling) force of gravity did exist, which it does not, the centrifugal (outward pushing) force of the ball-Earth’s supposed 19 mile per second spin would also exist and have to be overcome, yet neither of these opposing forces have ever been shown to have any existence outside the imaginations of heliocentric “scientists.”

“Gravitation is the term now used to ‘explain’ what common-sense people look upon as inexplicable. Globularists say that all orbs in space are globes gravitating towards each other in proportion to their magnitude and power of attraction - there being a ‘centripetal’ force (tending towards the center) and a ‘centrifugal’ force (tending from the center); but how inert matter can set up any automatic force, and cause one body to gravitate towards another body, has never yet been made palpable to the senses. It belongs to the regions of Metaphysics (‘existing only in thought’).” -Lady Blunt, “Clarion’s Science Versus God’s Truth” (40-41)

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Newton also theorized and it is now commonly taught that the Earth’s ocean tides are caused by gravitational lunar attraction. If the Moon is only 2,160 miles in diameter and the Earth 8,000 miles, however, using their own math and “law,” it follows that the Earth is 87 times more massive and therefore the larger object should attract the smaller to it, and not the other way around. If the Earth’s greater gravity is what keeps the Moon in orbit, it is impossible for the Moon’s lesser gravity to supersede the Earth’s gravity at Earth’s sea-level, where its gravitational attraction would even further out-trump the Moon’s. Not to mention, the velocity and path of the Moon are uniform and should therefore exert a uniform influence on the Earth’s tides, when in actuality the Earth’s tides vary greatly. Furthermore, if ocean tides are caused by the Moon’s gravitation, how is it that lakes, ponds, and other smaller bodies of standing water remain outside the Moon’s grasp, while the gigantic oceans are so effected!?

“If the moon lifted up the water, it is evident that near the land, the water would be drawn away and low instead of high tide caused. Again, the velocity and path of the moon are uniform, and it follows that if she exerted any influence on the earth, that influence could only be a uniform influence. But the tides are not uniform. At Port Natal the rise and fall is about 6 feet, while at Beira, about 600 miles up the coast, the rise and fall is 26 feet. This effectually settles the matter that the moon has no influence on the tides. Tides are caused by the gentle and gradual rise and fall of the earth on the bosom of the mighty deep. In inland lakes, there are no tides; which also proves that the moon cannot attract either the earth or water to cause tides. But the fact that the basin of the lake is on the earth which rests on the waters of the deep shows that no tides are possible, as the waters of the lakes together with the earth rise and fall, and thus the tides at the coast are caused; while there are no tides on waters unconnected with the sea.” -Thomas Winship, “Zetetic Cosmogeny” (130-131)

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In the past several decades, NASA has shown video of astronauts, supposedly in low-Earth orbit, experiencing complete weightlessness, or “zero gravity,” how is this weightless effect achieved if gravity doesn’t exist? As it turns out, for the past several decades, NASA together with Boeing have been perfecting so-called “Zero G planes” and “Zero G maneuvers,” which are able to produce weightlessness at any altitude. Aboard modified Boeing 727’s specially trained pilots perform aerobatic maneuvers known as parabolas. Planes climb with a pitch angle of 45 degrees using engine thrust and elevator controls, then when maximum height is reached the craft is pointed downward at high speed. The period of weightlessness begins while ascending and lasts all the way up and over the parabola until reaching a downward pitch angle of 30 degrees, at which point the maneuver is repeated. Therefore all NASA’s footage of astronauts aboard “space shuttles,” or “the International Space Station” can be easily hoaxed and simulated in Earth-atmosphere aboard a Zero G plane. In fact, watching footage of Zero G plane flights alongside footage of NASA astronauts supposedly floating around their “space shuttles” and “space stations,” no observable difference can be seen between the two.


Astronomers claim to have measured all the planets distances, shapes, orbits, weights, relative positions, and times of revolution all based on the “law of gravitation” and without gravity, their entire cosmology folds under its own weight. Without gravity, people cannot stand upside-down on a ball-Earth! Without gravity, the Earth and planets cannot be revolving around the Sun! Without Newtonian gravitation, Einsteinian relativity, Copernican heliocentricity, and the entire Big Bang ball-Earth mythos cannot exist and falls to pieces. Gravity, both metaphorically and quite literally, just does not hold any water; not as a sound theory of cosmology, and not as a law supposedly responsible for holding in the world’s oceans!

“Man's experience tells him that he is not constructed like the flies that can live and move upon the ceiling of a room with as much safety as on the floor: - and since the modern theory of a planetary earth necessitates a crowd of theories to keep company with it, and one of them is that men are really bound to the earth by a force which fastens them to it ‘like needles round a spherical loadstone,’ a theory perfectly outrageous and opposed to all human experience, it follows that, unless we can trample upon common sense and ignore the teachings of experience, we have an evident proof that the Earth is not a globe … If we could - after our minds had once been opened to the light of Truth - conceive of a globular body on the surface of which human beings could exist, the power - no matter by what name it be called - that would hold them on would, then, necessarily, have to be so constraining and cogent that they could not live; the waters of the oceans would have to be as a solid mass, for motion would be impossible. But we not only exist, but live and move; and the water of the ocean skips and dances like a thing of life and beauty! This is a proof that the Earth is not a globe.” -William Carpenter,
“100 Proofs the Earth is Not a Globe” (21-88)

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“The theory that motions are produced through material attraction is absurd. Attributing such a power to mere matter, which is passive by nature, is a supreme illusion. It is a lovely and easy theory to satisfy any man’s mind, but when the practical test comes, it falls all to pieces and becomes one of the most ridiculous theories to common sense and judgment.” -Professor Bernstein, “Letters to the British Association”

Anonymous Coward #conspiracy godlikeproductions.com

Re: question for flat earthers - what is on the other side?

Actually, we have no idea of what's inside the ball earth model either.

All theories of "molten cores" and such are just that...theories. No proof.

The deepest they've been able to dig has been 5-8 miles. By the time they reach that depth, all drilling equipment fails due to high heat.

Omar Ocegueda #conspiracy facebook.com

[In response to someone asking what evidence flat earthers would accept in regards to the Earth being round.]

nobody not even nasa can "actually" provide any evidence proving the ball earth because the earth is flat. So because the earth is flat it's physically impossible to put forward a solid argument or end all discussion of the fact we have a flat earth without using fake cgi images and fake videos of so called astronots in a pool. The evidence proving that the earth is flat is all solid using simple common sense. But unfortunately for some people it's easier to believe a lie than to believe they've been lied to all along.

Steven Gray #fundie youtube.com

Rebuttal to Joel Richardson on Flat Earth

Greetings in the NAME OF OUR LORD AND SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST. I have recently watched your videos and heard your comments as well as Dr. Heiser on the topic of Flat Earth and is it’s the Biblical view, on what is now becoming a main stream topic in both the Christian and secular world. Before I begin I would like to think both of you for your work it has been most helpful. However I would exhort you to pay very close attention to what I have been impressed to write to you both. I take issue with you on the following statements you have made in regard to the Bible GODS WORD.

1) You Sir stated in your 1st video that the THE BIBLE DID NOT TEACH A FLAT EARHT, WHICH I TELL IS ABSOLUTELY FALSE. A FLAT EARTH VIEW WAS THE View AT THAT TIME OF EVERY CULTURE. Dr. Heiser in a video state if you were to take the BIBLE literally that it did in fact state a Flat Earth as well as on your show episode 74. You Also rebuked all Christians and demanded them to repent for trusting in GOD and HIS WORD. I would have expected more from you sir and would exhort both of you to seriously pray and study the issue with an open mind and reexamine all that you have been taught. It is you sir who said you must take the full council scripture and the full council of scripture holds to the doctrine of flat earth as is the popular term.

2) Both you and Dr. Heiser stated that this Flat Earth is by those who would believe GODS WORD AND TAKE IT AS GOD HAD HIS PROPHETS Write it. That we who believe are conspiracy theorist and should not be taken seriously.

A) Allow me to inform you that most people do not challenge what they are taught but believe blindly accepting what they are taught to be true by people claiming to be experts in their field of study and many have been deceived about a great many things even in the Church. This is historical fact. Would you not agree?
B) In order for a lie to be considered truth and flourish you need only a few conditions blind faith, lack of knowledge in the area one is to be deceived in, and one of fair speech to color a lie with a little truth to paint a believable allusion. Would you not agree?

3) Both you and Dr. Heiser have been so bold to state even to the point of a rebuke to GOD AND HIS HOLY PROPHETS THAT GOD COULD NOT INPART THE TRUTH OF THE WORLDS TRUE SHAPE THAT OF A SPHERE OR A PLANE. AND THAT THE PROPHETS WROTE DOWN THEIR OWN WORLD VIEW AND NOT WHAT GOD TOLD THEM TO WRITE DOWN. THESE PROPHETS SUCH AS ISAIAH WHOM GOD GAVE THE PROPHESY OF KING CYRUS 156- 256 YEARS BEFORE GOD USED HIM TO CONQUER BABYLON ALLOW THE JEWS TO REBUILD THE TEMPLE.

ISAIAH 45:1) Thus saith the LORD to his anointed, to Cyrus, whose right hand I have holden, to subdue nations before him; and I will loose the loins of kings, to open before him the two leaved gates; and the gates shall not be shut;

Truly are we to believe that GOD can speak things to his prophets not yet seen but he GOD CAN NOT BE TRUTHFUL TO HIS PROPHETS ABOUT THE TRUE FORM OF THE WORLD WE LIVE IN THAT HE CREATED!

Now let use touch on a few scriptures that cannot be argued with in relation to the full council of scripture that upholds the EARTH AS A PLANE. That you and Dr. Heiser conveniently fail to mention due to the fact that it does not support your man-made world view as both of you are greatly deceived because you have not really questioned and searched the mater out.

GEN1.16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.
GEN1.17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth, GEN1.18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.
GEN1.19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

Are so called science tell us that the sun was first.

GOD TELLS US THAT HE CREATED THE SUN AND MOON ON THE FORTH DAY AND THAT SEAS AND THE DRY LAND WERE CREATED ON THE THIRD DAY. I ASK YOU IS GOD A LIER AND IS MAN SPEAKING TRUTH. I KNOW GOD IS TRUTH AND HIS WORD IS TRUTH AND LET MAN BE A LIER.

NEXT LET US GO TO JOSHUA 10: 12-14)

JOS10.12 Then spake Joshua to the LORD in the day when the LORD delivered up the Amorites before the children of Israel, and he said in the sight of Israel, Sun, stand thou still upon Gibeon; and thou, Moon, in the valley of Ajalon.
JOS10.13 And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day.
JOS10.14 And there was no day like that before it or after it, that the LORD hearkened unto the voice of a man: for the LORD fought for Israel.

THE WORD OF GOD STATES UNAPOLOGETICALLY THAT THE SUN AND THE MOON STOOD STILL, NOT THAT GOD TOLD THE EARTH TO STAND STILL. YOU CAN NOT INTERPRET THE SCRIPTURES ANY OTHER WAY UNLESS YOU ARE WILLING TO LIE!

The science of man tells us that the earth spins at 1000 mph and That we orbit the sun on and axis. Is mans so-called science true and GOD A LIER?

Answer me this when you fly on a plane going say 500 mph hour and the earth Is spinning 1000 mph how do you get to your destination and how do you land on a moving runway? You can’t fly faster in passenger jets than the earth spins!

If the earth is a globe can you walk on walls and ceilings as flies do. Do the laws of physics apply where you live only?

Let us look at the book of ISAIAH 38:7-8)

ISA38.7 And this shall be a sign unto thee from the LORD, that the LORD will do this thing that he hath spoken;
ISA38.8 Behold, I will bring again the shadow of the degrees, which is gone down in the sun dial of Ahaz, ten degrees backward. So the sun returned ten degrees, by which degrees it was gone down.
HOW WILL YOU EXPLAIN THIS PORTION OF GODS WORD AWAY, YOU CAN NOT. IT STATES WHAT GOD DID HE MOVED THE SUN BACK 10 DEGREES. DO YOU BELIEVE GOD IS LIER AND THAT THIS IS AN AMBIGUOUS STATEMENT OR HYPERBOLE? I THINK NOT GODS WORD IS TRUTH.

MR. RICHARDSON, I HAVE A GREAT DEAL OF RESPECT FOR YOU AND I PRAY THAT YOU WILL LOOK AT THIS MATTER IN PRAYER AND SUPPLICATION BEFORE GOD AND DO YOU OWN RESEARCH AS GOD LEADS. I WROTE WHAT I FELT GOD LAY ON MY HEART TO SAY TO YOU THOUGH MY SPEECH WAS HARD. AND I TELL YOU THAT IT WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER FOR YOU NOT TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE IN THE MANNER IN WHICH YOU DID THAN TO MAKE ACCUSATIONS AGAINST GOD AND HIS PROPHETS AND TO PUBLICLY REBUKE THOSE WHO HAVE RIGHTLY BELIEVED AND PROVEN THE WORD OF GOD TO BE TRUE AND THE WORLD HE CREATED TO BE AS IT IS WRITEN IN HIS HOLY WORD TO BE A PLANE AND NOT A GLOBE.
I GIVE YOU THE FOLLOWING REFERENCES TO GET STATED WITH AND FOR THOSE WHO ALSO DON’T BELIEVE.

1) TERRA FIRMA: THE EARTH NOT A PLANET; PROVED FROM SCRIPTURE, REASON AND FACT BY DAVID WARDLAW SCOTT
2) ZETETIC ASTRONOMY: EARTH NOT A GLOBE BY SAMUEL BIRLEY ROWBOTHAM
3) ZETETIC COSMOGONY

I WILL BE HAPPY TO HELP YOU IF YOU LIKE ALL YOU NEED DO IS EMAIL ME I HAVE PURCHASED MANY BOOKS FROM YOU.

AND TO ALL THOSE WHO HAVE CURSED YOU AND THREATEN YOU THEY SHOULD SEEK GOD FOR FORGIVENESS, FOR WE HAVE ALL BELIEVED THING THAT WERE NOT TRUE AND ACCORDING TO GODS WORD AND WE ALL HAVE MUCH TO LEARN IF WE WILL ONLY LISTEN TO GOD.

Sincerely in CHRIST OUR LORD AND SAVIOR,

S. K. GRAY?

Ernie Drogt #fundie quora.com

It is important to know that Atheist hide behind Ad hoc hypothesis. Every thing they know is an adjustment of the equation to keep their failures current with the mind set of the public. This is also called the Axis of Evil. The bible is not really a scientific book, but it explains scientific beliefs ever so slightly. Which drives scientists mad. Mad enough for them to do Ad hoc. One cannot explain matter without intelligent design. You cannot make the leap into evolution without it. Which is why the missing link cannot be found. That takes a creator to do so. Bread a dog with a cat it cant be done. But some how it is done from ape to man. If its so easy as scientists claim then it should have been done over and over again. Try it and it is said you end up having AIDS. Laughable i know. I don't even know if that theory is true or not, but it had a good run….. its really not about faith but the bible really does explain our existence quite well. And science is only there to distort it. In order to understand i would suggest that people explore our quantum reality rather then mediocre science.

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The Bible Science Then Science Now
The Earth is a sphere – Isaiah 40:22 The Earth is a flat disc The Earth is a sphere
Innumerable Stars – Jeremiah 33:22 only 1100 stars Innumerable Stars
Air Has Weight – Job 28:25 Air is weightless Air Has Weight
Each star is different – 1 Corinthians 15:41 All stars were the same Each star is different
Light moves – Job 38:19-20 Light was fixed in place Light moves
Free float of Earth in space – Job 26:7 Earth sat on a large animal Free float of Earth in space
Winds blow in cyclones – Ecclesiastes 1:6 Winds blew straight Winds blow in cyclones
Ocean floor contains deep valleys and mountains – 2 Samuel 22:16; Jonah 2:6 The ocean floor was flat Ocean floor contains deep valleys and mountains
Blood is the source of life and health – Leviticus 17:11 Sick people must be bled Blood is the source of life and health
Creation made of invisible elements – Hebrews 11:3 Science is mostly ignorant on the subject Creation made of invisible elements(Atoms)
Ocean contains springs – Job 38:16 Ocean fed only by rivers and rain Ocean contains springs

Cameron Mitchel #fundie forum.gateworld.net

Let me just say this, not once has proven science disproven facts about the Bible. But the Bible does disprove certain theories of science. Think about that... proven science doesn't disprove the existence of a deity. You may say that the Big Bang and evolution do, but no, they aren't proven. But, however, the Bible does disprove evolution and the Big Bang. So, as I said, think about that before responding again.

ChiefJustice Middleton #conspiracy youtube.com

ChiefJustice Middleton: Occam's razor apples to flat Earth?

bubbamashima: Occam's feckin' laser!?

scott merrow: Yes it does. it gives a simpler explanation than a spinning wobbly ball flying through space supported only by assumptions and theories based on assumptions?

ChiefJustice Middleton: besides, the possibility of this whole universe and Galactic spinning makes no sense whatsoever purely because if you added in how the planets, sun's and other ballsacks maintaining a perfect balance and continuity without much, if any, room for error. It's all a lie and man made and for man's pleasure to Marvel in his own egotistical, narsacisstic fake belief world and at the same time, man flips a bird to the true creator.?

Matt Forney #sexist mattforney.com

I am smarter than nearly all the girls I’ve ever known.

That’s not arrogance talking: it’s the truth. Out of all the girls I’ve known, maybe three were at least as smart as me, and of that three, one is more intelligent than me. All the rest were my intellectual inferiors. I don’t hold it against them; in fact, when I run across girls who tout their “intelligence,” I feel nauseous, like I’m dealing with a pack of overeager Mormon missionaries.

One of the most dangerous delusions of modern America is the idea that girls are desirable because of how smart they are. Indeed, the idea that intelligent girls even exist in significant numbers is ridiculous. Puffed up by you-go-grrl propaganda from the media, their heads filled with lies from the universities, every girl who can spell her own name suddenly thinks she’s Einstein. Worst of all, girls think that being able to spell their own names entitles them to a good man, even when they’re bossy, defiant and lacking in feminine graces.

This is laughable.

The reality is that truly intelligent females are rare, and most girls who consider themselves “smart” are not. More importantly, the idea that men should find female intelligence attractive is as preposterous as expecting them to find hermaphroditism sexy. A girl’s most important aspects will always be her beauty, her charm and her willingness to please, with intelligence so far down the list that it might as well not be on the list.

Yet thanks to white knights artificially pumping up the egos of every girl in America, men are made to feel like freaks for considering a girl’s bust size to be more important than her ability to regurgitate Marxist tripe.

Here are my reasons why female intelligence is a fraud.
1. Few girls are actually intelligent.

This is the most important thing to know: intelligence is largely a masculine attribute. IQ testing has consistently shown that while men and females have the same mean intelligence, men have a wider standard deviation while females cluster around the middle. In layman’s terms, this means that there are more intelligent men than there are intelligent girls. At the same time, it also means that there are more unintelligent men then unintelligent girls, which is why the short bus tends to be a sausage fest. The “dumb bimbo” stereotype is a fiction invented by ugly girls.

Turns out that “boys go to Jupiter to get more stupider, girls go to college to get more knowledge” was at least half true.

This is why it’s a waste of time for smart men to cast about for a girl who is their intellectual equal: she simply doesn’t exist. You have a better chance of talking Zooey Deschanel and Ellen Page into a threesome than finding a girl who can match you in knowledge, life experience and all-around brains. You do find the occasional woman who can hold her own with men, but these exceptions don’t disprove the rule, any more than the existence of Kim Peek disproves the fact that most autistics are hand-flapping retards.

What’s really awful about this situation is that the mainstream media, invested in hiding the truth, blame men for not being able to find the right girl. “You’re looking in the wrong places.” “Intelligent, classy girls don’t hang out at bars.” “Maybe you just attract the wrong kinds of people.” They can’t simply admit that females are the passive sex, built for raising babies and not much else, because doing so might hurt girls’ self-esteem… and we can’t very well have that, now can we?
2. Girls are intellectually inferior.

Several months ago, I was on Twitter killing time when some teenage girl started sending rude and insulting Tweets at me because she was offfeeennnded at my article on why most girls shouldn’t bother going to college. I initially ignored her, but when she continued to harass me, touting her “4.0 GPA” and how smart she was, I clicked through to her profile and did a little research. Turns out that this oh-so-intelligent young lady was spending $58,000 a year to major in acting. Furthermore, while she was not unattractive—she had a good bone structure, a cute face and huge… tracts of land—she was at least twenty pounds overweight, so several of my followers started calling her fat. What was her response?

She started sending pictures of herself to me in an attempt to prove she wasn’t fat.

This girl wasn’t stupid; she was clearly four or five points above the mean female IQ. But not only did she massively overrate her intelligence, she was unwilling to accept that maybe, just maybe, she had made some poor choices in life.

That is the modern “intelligent” girl; an intellectual vacuum. Her life one great big fraud from beginning to end. Despite her vaunted “smarts” and her belief that she can “do anything,” she doesn’t major in math, engineering, computer programming or any discipline that requires actual work. No, she picks a soft major like English, education or ethnic studies, where there are no standards and you can pass any nonsense in for a grade so long as you sound authoritative. She rationalizes her choices by saying that she wants to “help the children” or she’s “interested in learning,” despite the fact that all American education does is teach people to memorize Marxist nonsense and repeat it back word for word.

Claiming that girls are intelligent because they earn the majority of degrees is like saying that parrots are intelligent because the majority of them can mimic human speech.

When she graduates, assuming she isn’t spat right back into the service industry, she’ll go to work as a government bureaucrat, HR commissar, paralegal or other profession that contributes nothing to society. She’ll complain about the pay gap even as she takes every day off she can because her “head hurts” or she “needs some time off with the girls.” She’ll whine about the lack of girls in management roles even as she plans to quit her job when she has kids… but not until she’s in her thirties, of course.

After all, she wants to “have fun” first and “get it out of [her] system” before she settles down.

But it’s in her choice of hobbies that the modern “smart” girl truly exposes her vacuity. She doesn’t spend her free time reading science textbooks or perfecting her chess game: she TiVoes Teen Mom and obsesses over Lena Dunham’s cleavage. If she reads books at all, she limits herself to trashy mainstream thrillers like The Hunger Games or textual pornography like Twilight. Her weekends are spent pumping chumps for peach daiquiris at the dive bar and getting pumped by every stud who stirs her loins. Even so-called “nerd girls” are phonies, as their “nerdiness” extends to playing video games once in a blue moon or re-Tweeting charlatans like Neil deGrasse Tyson.

The only thing separating her from a ghetto baby momma is the ability to form complete sentences.

Face it: the vast majority of girls are as hollow as a drum. The three or four surplus IQ points that college-educated girls have are wasted on them, because all they’re used for is rationalizing a life of mindless consumption and sluttiness. If the modern West is a cesspool, girls are its most devoted coprophages, gulping down runny diarrhea by the bucketload with forced smiles on their faces.
3. Girls know that their “intelligence” is a lie.

As loudly as they brag about their “strength” and “independence,” girls know inside that their credentials are worthless in the eyes of men. Go back to that chubby acting major who started insulting me on Twitter. Me pointing out that her degree was worthless didn’t faze her, nor did my reminding her that she was wasting sixty grand a year for it. It was calling her fat—insulting her looks—that wounded her most deeply.

And she was so insecure that she resorted to begging for validation from me, a man she considered a “misogynist.”

The vagina is the perfect representation of the nature of females. An empty vessel, a hole, a void with no identity of its own. Without a man to fill her with his essence, she is as useless as a crabapple rotting on the sidewalk. Only by taking that essence deep inside her can she mature and become the woman she was meant to be. And filled with the wrong essence, she becomes an intellectual Typhoid Mary, mindlessly infecting others with her diseases of the mind.

That’s the problem with girls today: they’re so full of bullshit that their eyeballs are brown.

That bullshit is pumped into their skulls by men. Every advance in “women’s rights” occurs only because men allow it to occur. Women’s suffrage was only passed into law in the U.S. because leftist Protestants in the Republican Party wanted to ensure an electoral majority for Prohibition and other “social purity” policies. Sexual liberation only happened in the sixties because cowardly draft-dodging hippies, knowing they could not compete with real men for the affections of feminine women, encouraged girls to slut it up so they could get laid. The mass entry of girls into college and the workforce was instigated by corporate capitalists in order to drive down wages and smash workers’ rights.

If at any point, men had collectively told girls no, they would have quieted down and gone back to the kitchen like they were told.

So it is with the myth of female intelligence. Girls believe they are smart, worldly and cultured because men lie and white knight for them. The gelded father telling his little princess that she can be whatever she wants to be, the slack-wristed orbiter who writes sweet nothings on her Facebook posts, the hipster nancyboy who claims he wants an “equal”: they are the enemy. Without them, the Katerinas of America would gladly kneel to their Petruchios. Because these genetic discards cannot compete with legitimate men, they encourage degeneracy in the vain hope of getting their dicks wet.

Spraying the hollyhocks with lye is the only way they can propagate their diseased seed.

As men, it is our responsibility to bring girls back to their proper place. To lead them into their natural roles as wives and mothers. We men do not choose or reward girls for their clown college degrees, their meaningless cubicle jobs, or their supposed “intelligence.” We reward them for their willingness to please us and make us happy, and in doing so make themselves happy. No amount of phony education or career “success” will scratch that deep itch in a girl’s soul: the desire to serve a man.

Not a “guy,” not a “male”: a man.

Inside every Strong, Independent Woman™ is a suppliant girl yearning to break free. I say we give that girl a hand.

Colonel-Knight-Rider #homophobia fav.me

[Parts of CNR’s journal included extra information just about the project they were working on. I edited those out for (relative) brevity’s sake.]

Back in January, [name of person who CNR has an issue with], whom I enlisted as Nintendo Cinematic Universe fanfiction project collaborator four years earlier, made a controversial move by attempting to squeeze a gay couple in to the Pokémon movie idea he had planned, but there was no character development reason why they should be gay. The fact that he wanted to include them simply because “other shows are doing it” means he included them solely to follow a trend for diversity points. I refused to allow such a thing, as I do not support (but that doesn’t necessarily mean hate) the LGBTQ+ ideology for secular reasons way more than religious ones. My goal was to protect the innocence of children, who, from my observation, don’t even know what that sort of thing means until it’s taught to them in schools (in contrast to heterosexual relationships, which they are naturally aware of as part of our survival instinct). You, the reader, have every right to disagree, and I respect your right to your point of view. But all I ask is for my point of view to have some respect, too. What some call “homophobia" and "censorship," I call respect for the innocence of youth.

My mother has always said, “If everybody jumped off the Golden Gate Bridge, would you?” This is her poetic way of saying, “Don’t do something just because everybody else is doing it. Think for yourself!” This is why I want to stress that Realshow unconsciously admitted riding the bandwagon was his entire motivation for including gay Pokémon. He alluded to the presence of this “inclusivity” in other TV cartoons such as Adventure Time and Steven Universe, believing that we should follow their trend. He called the values I was raised with “wrong” and argued that “Times have changed, and so should you.” He did not understand that, when someone says things like that to me, that person not only insults me, whom he/she has met, but also my entire immediate family, whom he/she hasn’t met. Given the choice between remaining faithful to my family and their virtues and rebelling against them just to make one random stranger I know nothing about happy, I chose the former. Realshow has since adorned his avatar with a rainbow graphic, as you can see—his way of spitting in my face.

That aside, remember: if I really did hate gays, lesbians, bisexuals, transgenders, etc., I would have sooner barred them all from watching me, but I haven’t and never will.

Seriously, though—he says he doesn't want to reopen any old wounds, but one of his hashtags is "not homophobic." It's hysterical.

Anyway, after realizing he had blocked me because of our gay Pokémon argument, I felt the urge to confront him in some way. Impulsively, I evaded his block with an alternate account to call out his behavior, leading to my one-day suspension.

Let’s face the facts: 2019 hasn’t been an easy year for me so far on DeviantArt. I’ve failed to get DA’s support staff to do anything about a smear campaign digging up my past about decisions I regret making on other forums (hence my “Vengeful Heckler” comics). I’ve mistaken an agnostic for a militant atheist bigoted against Christians, not realizing she adopted one of us as her figurative brother. And my efforts to end a toxic friendship and to put a project on pause indefinitely resulted in a five-man revenge journal post. In my church, we teach that things go wrong when people don’t listen to God, and my actions against Realshow’s controversial journal leading to my suspension only proves that.

However, not all hope is lost. As long as I continue to receive inspiration from the wonders of nature, cartoons drawn by my friends, scheduled artistic challenges, and life in general, the Colonel Knight Rider artistic enterprise will continue as happily as it has these past few years. If there’s anything my Internet history proves, it’s that, no matter how many times I get knocked down, I stand up 20 feet taller than before. No one other than God can turn things around for me, so I will listen for His voice.

In the meantime, one question remains. Should I go after this guy for copyright infringement? Or should I just accept that I’m outnumbered five men to one and move forward with what makes me happy?

Thanks for understanding. Keep being awesome, everybody. May you never have to deal with relationships as toxic as some of my past ones have been, and may whatever Pokémon some of you may catch be as asexual as they are in the games!

CairParavel #conspiracy godlikeproductions.com

Is Flat-Earth a psy-ops to distract from Hollow-Earth?

I'm starting to think that the flat-earth nonsense is all a psy-ops to distract from Hollow-Earth. That is,to distract from the Annunaki,who live deep inside the Earth and will reveal themselves at the right time. Also, it was said that the Nazis reached an opening in the Earth's crust in their expedition to Antartica and they found a fresh-water lake among other things.

KKKamerade #racist dailystormer.name

The Jew assault on the White family is relentless.

Not content with just spreading child-free propaganda among the goyim, filthy kikes are also trying to criminalize the act of making children itself.

Apparently, if you willingly or accidentally remove a condom during a sex act, that constitutes sexual assault. Unless you are a Negro or any other brown simio-sapiens, of course – then it is called involuntary cultural enrichment. Learn it, you filthy shiksa!

This is a tactic the jude-affen have tried against White resistance hero Julian Assange and the reason he is compelled to hide in the Embassy of Ecuador.

Cosmo:

"A lawmaker in Wisconsin has introduced a bill that would define “stealthing” — or the practice of removing a condom without a partner’s knowledge or consent — as sexual assault, NBC News reports. The bill, LRB3346, was introduced earlier in May by Rep. Melissa Sargent, who says stealthing is quite “clearly a crime.”

“Sexual predators will continue to find new, egregious ways to violate and victimize others, and it’s important that as legislators we take concerted steps to be responsive as we become aware of it,” Sargent told NBC News. “This behavior is predatory and disturbing, and people should know we not only find it reprehensible, but that we won’t tolerate it. Ignoring it is simply not an option.”

Researcher Alexandra Brodsky [Editor: Confirmed Jew] interviewed women who survived incidents of stealthing to inform her research and found many were deeply upset by what they felt was “a clear violation of their bodily autonomy.” It’s not unlike what a rape survivor might feel, and Brodsky makes the case that stealthing is “rape-adjacent” in that way."

The kikes know that anything leads to a healthy White baby is bad for the Judenreich and must be stopped ASAP – after all, that baby might grow up to be a brick layer, der Grenadier or a Daily Stormer reader.

So go ahead, dear reader, and stealth for the glory of the white race! Spill your seed into as many white thots as you desire.

[Editor’s note: Unless it’s a crime in your jurisdiction, of course… The Daily Stormer doesn’t endorse breaking the law – but we do endorse impregnating thots.]

[Editor’s note II: What you do is just put your first and middle finger around the base of your penis during long/fast strokes – her eyes will probably be closed anyway if you’re going hard enough, but if she notices your fingers, she’ll think it is just a steadying measure, to ensure the penis does not slip out of the vagina during these long strokes. You tighten these two fingers behind the ring of the condom, and over the course of 7-10 strokes, you will have maneuvered the condom’s base-ring up to your mushroom tip. Then you ever so slightly slip your penis out and use your index finger to drop the condom off. Then you go really, really hard, and ejaculate as balls deep as you can. Make sure you have your hands tightly around her hips or on her shoulders so she cannot pull back when she realizes the trick you have just pulled.
Depending on the amount of pre-ejaculatory fluid you personally produce, you may want to put KY jelly on the tip of your penis before putting the condom on. This will make it easier to slip off. You can also buy extra large condoms, which, assuming you have a normal sized penis, will make it easier to slip off.

Though you might think she is less likely to see it, if you’re in doggie style, this is an incorrect assumption. The stealth method works best in straight missionary.

Then, when she comes up pregnant, threaten to call her family members if she has an abortion. You can also threaten to post about it on the internet.

Again, only do this in jurisdictions where this is legal. So like, if you live in Wisconsin, take her on a romantic vacation to the UP of Michigan (it is a very romantic place, btw).]

Shamiso Kanyama #fundie jonathanturley.org

He was known as Prophet Shamiso Kanyama in Zimbabwe and he instructed his followers to bury him alive as part of his ritual to cleanse their house of evil spirits. They did and were surprised when they dug him up to find out that he was dead. Now the family involved in the ritual is accused of murder despite the “Prophet” demanding that he be buried.

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Kanyama reportedly asked his followers to bury him alive so that he could summon more cleansing powers to heal the family that had been plagued by mysterious deaths. He directed them to dig a grave and bury him alive because that was the way he summoned more healing powers to ward off evil spirits. Indeed, Kanyama helped to dig his own grave and jumped inside. One man begged the men to stop and dig up Kanyama but they ignored his pleas. Instead, the prophet yelled at the man that he was “disturbing his angels, and urged the other to continue filling the grave."

Pat Robertson #fundie rawstory.com

Pat Robertson on Monday declared that Donald Trump was the “clear winner” of Sunday night’s presidential debate, and the televangelist asserted that the GOP candidate’s admission that he groped women was simply “macho” talk.

“Trump was the winner,” Robertson opined on his 700 Club television program. “Basically, the pundits were writing him off.”

The TV preacher argued that Trump was like the mythical Phoenix because he had performed well at the debate just days after the leak of a video tape, in which the Republican nominee bragged that he could grab women “by the pussy” without their permission because he was a star.

“A guy does something 11 years ago, it was a conversation in Hollywood where he’s trying to look like he’s macho,” Robertson said. “And 11 years after that they surface it from The Washington Post or whatever, bring it out within 30 days or so of the election and this is supposed to be the death blow and everybody writes him off, ‘Okay, he’s dead, now you’ve got to get out of the way and let Mike Pence run the campaign.'”

“The Donald says no,” he continued. “He’s like the Phoenix. They think he’s dead, he’s come back. And he came back strong. So, he won that debate.”

A scientific poll conducted by CNN following Sunday night’s debate found that 57 percent of people said that Hillary Clinton won, while 34 percent thought Trump came out ahead.

ArmorKing #fundie forums.sherdog.com

Was Jesus Christ a cuck and a liberal?

Here is why

1. Love your enemies and let them do everything they want to you because it supposedly makes you "holy"
2. Hang out with Samaritans/Caananites and condemn hebrew privilegie! Samaritan lives matter!
3. Sell everything you have and give it to the poor (deadbeats like Lazarius who let dogs lick him)
4. Let people kill you
5. Virgin and a beta orbiter who hangs out with a prostitute
6. Angry at society
7. Tells people to be like children
8. Tells people to be like birds and don't plan for tomorrow (He obviously knows nothing about birds)
9. A liar - Told people he would be back during their life time. He never came back!
10 .Had long hair - Despite the bible saying its a disgrace for a man to have long hair. We all know long hair is only acceptable for vikings and metalheads
11. Hates his family and life and tells everyone of his followers to do the same
12. Hates the rich and succesful and nourishes fantasies about a great comeuppance
13. Hates personal responsibility - He dies for your sins so you don't have to take personal responsibility.
14. Contradicts himself
15. His father was a cuckold and his mother a "hotwife"- Joseph sat in the cuckshed as the Holy Spirit came balls deep in Mary and Joseph raised the baby like a good cuck.

With all this evidence presented I don't understand how anyone could believe in Jesus Christ. I understand if left-wingers and other low energy cucks love Jesus Christ but real american alpha males - how can they believe in this liberal/commie cuck?

comsic justice #racist godlikeproductions.com

Is skin color an indicator of karma?

Why is it that all the third world sh*tholes are populated by dark-skinned people while all the best, 1st world countries are populated by light-skinned people? Prof. Lynn's 'IQ & the wealth of nations' found there's a correlation between skin color & IQ, wealth, beauty, etc...

The Bhagavad Gita states, 'Only demonic [degenerate] souls are born into non-aryan bodies!" Also, "Outer is a reflection of inner" (i.e. if you're ugly on the outside its because you're ugly on the inside)..."Everybody is born into the body they deserve" (based on karma).

The ancient Aryans had a caste system - caste literally means 'color' -- restricting the top positions in society to light-skinned people only & the shittiest jobs to the darkest.

The Theosophists believe the negro race was created as punishment for many generations of degenerate behavior such as sodomy & bestiality. Makes sense to me!

Prophet Shamiso Kanyama, Leanmore Mutero, Tonderai Muswere, Michael Muchengeti, Manasa Mutero & Nicholas Mutero #fundie guardian.ng

Five members of the same family were charged with the murder of a prophet who had been called to their their home in the village of Mazonde, Zimbabwe to help them cleanse their house of evil spirits.

According to local newspaper, Zed 24 News, the accused family identified as Leanmore Mutero, Tonderai Muswere, Michael Muchengeti, Manasa Mutero and Nicholas Mutero, appeared at the High Court in Harare facing a murder charge for participating in the death of self-professed Prophet Shamiso Kanyama, who accidentally died during a healing ceremony.

Pastor Kanyama had reportedly asked his followers to bury him alive so that he could summon more cleansing powers to heal the family that had been plagued by mysterious deaths.

Zed 24 News reports that High Court Justice Owen Tagu heard how on that day, the late pastor had been invited to attend the home in the Muzarabani district, which is situated along the Mozambique-Zimbabwe border, by their priest, Zvidzai Muchengeti.

The five men had requested the priest to help them clean their home of evil spirits, because it was causing mysterious deaths in their family.

Responding to their request to perform a healing ceremony, Kanyama had ordered his followers to dig a grave and bury him alive because that was the way he summoned more healing powers to ward off evil spirits. However, the plan backfired on the prophet when instead of being resurrected as he supposed, the men dug up the grave again to find him dead.

Kanyama helped to dig his own grave before praying and jumping inside, Father Zvidzai, who has turned State witness, told the High Court. He continued that after laying face down in the grave, he ordered his followers to start covering him with soil.

“He pegged a grave-shaped pit in front of my hut and asked for help to dig the pit,” Zvidzai continued. “Deceased requested to be buried alive so that he would gain power to drive away the evil forces.”

Fearing for the life of the prophet as the men were in the process of filling the grave, he requested the men to stop what they were doing, Joseph Taderera told Justice Tagu.

However, they ignored his pleas when Kanyama urged them to continue the process of burying him alive, stating that he would rise from the grave unharmed.

“I warned the men about the danger of their actions, but my advice fell on deaf ears because Kanyama shouted, telling me that I am disturbing his angels, and urged them to continue filling the grave, saying that he would later come out alive,” Taderera said.

Fox News #fundie dailykos.com

[ On the Dylann Roof shootings in South Carolina: ]

Doocy: Your thoughts this morning?

Jackson: Well, first of all, I'm pastor of the Fall Church in Chesapeake, Virginia, but....We had a prayer vigil this morning at 6am, praying for the people of Charleston, South Carolina. We are urging people, wait for the facts, don't jump to conclusions. But, I have to tell you that I am deeply concerned this gunman chose to go into a church, because there does seem to be a rising hostility against Christians across this country because of our biblical views. And, I just think it's something we have to be aware of and not create an atmosphere where people take out their violent intentions against Christians. And I would mention one other thing very quickly and that is, I would urge pastors and men in these churches to prepare to defend themselves. It's sad, but I think that we've got to arm ourselves. At least have some people in the church who are prepared to defend the church when women and children are attacked. (Fox News hosts mumbling in agreement)

Brian Kilmeade: Do you think that is something that would fly inside a church? To have a pastor with a gun? To have security with a gun?

E.W. Jackson: Look, I'm a pastor. (Hasselbeck voicing her approval) If someone comes into hurt my church members I have an absolute obligation to defend them, to protect them. (Doocy interrupts with "of course"). Look, 9 people dead, I think that people understand that it's sad but this is the world we live in.

Brian Kilmeade: Hey, I understand it. I'm just, from a pastor perspective, I want to know if that's something you would do.

E.W. Jackson: Well, I'm gonna, as a pastor, it's absolutely something I would do to protect the people whom God has given me charge over.

Elizabeth Hasselbeck: You protect and shepherd your flock in anyway that you can, in faith and in practicality.

E.W. Jackson: Amen.

cantfightnature #racist cantfightnature.tumblr.com

[Note: The source is EXTREMELY NSFW. This is a racist porn blog or something.]

It doesn’t matter if it’s fantasy. It doesn’t matter if you find it empowering to show your tits to strangers on the internet. It doesn’t matter if it’s because of genetics or social pressure. It doesn’t matter if race is even a coherent concept, because it sure is in female’s perception. It doesn’t matter if you think you’ve poked holes in some argument I’ve constructed for white supremacy, because there is no argument.
Every motherfucker coming in like “aha but these peeps have bigger dicks/china’s economy is going to overtake yours/women are stronger than you think/black people invented jazz” (seriously a fucking question I got) as if that’s ruined my case doesn’t get the point. You’re like a little asian dude plugging away at his calculator until you run into the room all “Eureka! I’ve created mathematical proof that white men couldn’t possibly be superior!” only to find me balls deep in your squealing sister. It doesn’t matter if you think you’ve found the reason. Every path always leads to white men winning.
(the twist was going to be that this also goes for dumb nazi questions about how we need to defend our race and kick out muslims. no one cares about beta as fuck alt-right shit either. taking the fucking red pill won’t make you a man, and if you think the jews are the reason you can’t get laid, you’re probably just fucked.)
anyway point is: you can all believe what you want. I’m not here to convince you of white supremacy, the most obvious thing in the world. I’m just here to make fun of people, jack off, and try my best to make you show me your tits and/or kill yourself

Anonymous coward #fundie geocities.com

When I read your site I am sickened by your bitterness and unsensored hatred. All you damned atheist think you know it all don't you? Well I got news for you: you don't!

If you don't accept Jesus in your heart now/today/this minute you'll be facing eternal punishment. You know in your heart God and Jesus are real. We all feel it deep inside and cant deny it unless we tell a lie. That's right you're lying and sinning each time you say there isn't a God. I can't help wondering how good life would be in our wonderful country if you atheists didn't infultrate the government and take away the great Christian nation that our founding fathers gave us. You people have killed this country you know that! Do you think God let 9/11 happen because of all the good Christians? My friend, you and I both know deep down why 9/11 happened. Atheists and queers and witches are turning this whole country against God, and God tried to show you some of the things to come. 9/11 was a glimpse into the future. Think! It is so obvious! What is life like over there in Iraq and all those other countries over there? Terrible that's what it's like! Know why? Because they reject Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior! You KNOW this and I know you know it. We all know it but we can't say it because it isn't politically correct--one of the worst atheist liberal inventions ever. Politically correct.

What about God and morals and the Ten Commandments? Do you want to live a life like those lost souls in those other countries? Find Jesus, if you don't youll suffer and always regret it.

I don't even want to know how much you hate yourself and your life because you're an atheist. Life must be so pointless to you. I bet you amke your family miserible. That's another thing. I read your rant diary thing and I'll tell you what: that premature baby you got? I want you to know you did it. You almost killed your own baby because you reject the One True God! The sins of the father will fall unto his flower I tell you that much! How does that make you feel to know that because you hate God that you caused this tragedy in your family? If you still have a little spark of Jesus you should feel bad right now. If not it might be too late for you becaue the Devil has eaten your heart to peaces.

Jay B. #fundie moonbattery.com

The gay community was ball deep into Obama's cause because he'd toss them a bone here and there and everyone thought that "Change" included normalizing the deviancies, because after all, 8% of the population (at most, and Liberals are doing their best to increase it, by telling young kids it's perfectly fine not to like the other sex) has to be considered normal like the other 92%!

Secret Asshole #fundie kiwifarms.net

I was always ultra-liberal, exploring my religion, never being fully atheist, but exploring others for a time. I looked at paganism and Wicca even, though that was brief when I read some books. (I have to admit this because I find this hilarious, I very very very briefly considered Islam. Just know this was before 9/11 or any real Islamic Terror attacks or rape riots). I always, ALWAYS argued liberal politics with my family, who are staunchly conservative. I argued with conservatives in college, went on debates, the whole nine. Except it wasn't like today, it was amicable arguments. Where it got intense, but you were still friends, you were still family. That's what I thought being a liberal was. Argue your points, but allow for freedom of thought. I even got offended by Muslim jokes, even after 9/11. I was tolerant and shit.

When it really started to erode was the financial crisis of 2008. My family got FUCKED by it. We avoided foreclosure by the skin of our teeth because of massive job losses, but we've never fully recovered. I got caught up in the hope and the dreams of Barack Obama. 'Yeah, Obama! Take care of that corrupt Wall...Healthcare? Wait, why? What are you doing, you can fix the financial system, help the poor and the...oh...you want a legacy...oh.' When he went balls deep into healthcare instead of helping the economy, the cracks started to appear.

Occupy Wallstreet was when I broke. I couldn't do it anymore. 'Stick it to those big bankers! FUCK EM UP...wait, why are there hippie drums here? Disabled people? What are you talking about the police for? Queer politics...the progressive stack? WHAT THE FUCK WHO CARES, THEY ARE DEGENERATE GAMBLERS AND IN A JUST SOCIETY WE'D HANG THEM FROM LAMPOSTS YOU STUPID FAGGOTS WHAT THE FUCKAREYOUDOING.' Which lead to the Colbert show clip and one of the leaders was a rich white cunt called Ketchup. At first, I actually thought it was the FBI doing COINTELPRO. Seriously, that's not a joke. I literally could not believe the people in charge were this fucking stupid to let them go in front of a camera.

Once I realized that they were that stupid and were rich white cunts who latched on to the most important issue of our time to promote their own fringe ideologies (which would become progressivisim) and force out others, I was fucking done. Hugely fucking done. It got even worse when progressives invaded gaming and started screaming. I was still bitter about 2011 so when the country hadn't recovered and they were screaming about meaningless bullshit, I wanted to beat people with pipes.

I went more and more into shitposting on SA and then even SA got fucking worse, which only pissed off...oh, a huge amount of people. I got really bad there, before it became a core of SJWs. Hellthread I was full on shitpost mode, which I found hilarious at how mad I made the libs. At this point, I hated progressives. They represented the worst of liberals, the excesses which didn't focus on the poor or downtrodden, but on people's skin color or genitals or shit that really didn't matter. After they closed Hellthread for good, pretty much all the shitposters left SA, I went to SASS, found it too specific to SA and came here to shitpost harder.

Nothing will turn you from a liberal to whatever I am like true financial strife and it being ignored so a disabled tranny black queer autistic can speak about wheelchair ramps. I relish every time the progressives lose societal influence, I love seeing them angry and not getting their way, I love to see them get fired and all their businesses to fail. They had the chance to fix one of the most corrupt industries in the world and they cared more about the most superficial traits on people instead. They rejected the foundations of liberalism for their own narcissism and virtue signaling. I want Donald Trump for another 4 years so they continue to go insane and lose influence as people see how fucked their priorities are and what hypocrites they are. Fuck progressives. Fuck all of them.

Drako L Bluewing #fundie drakhianlibrary.wordpress.com

The screen cap in this article was sent to me by a friend who frequents image boards. It is a post pertaining the entire “elsagate” controversy regarding rather… Unpleasant videos aimed at children on YouTube.

This shit might have a negative impact in the minds of children as young as two years old. But for some reason we don’t see the worms saying “Think about muh children” crying about this.

Some of this content, as well as other things “aimed at children” online such as pregnancy flash games with Disney characters are rather disturbing and might leave actual mental scars on actual children. Yet no one seems to care.

However, if a man dares to say age gap relationships should not be taboo provided both participants have reached puberty and therefore are no longer children, you get a bunch of blue knights and femihags calling him pedophile and claiming they “think of the children.” If someone draws a child naked, in a picture aimed at adults in an entirely unrealistic setting, they come and try to ban it because of “muh children.”

Yet somehow these same knuckle draggers let the UN violate actual children (prepubescents to keep it clear) until one of them is caught so balls deep he gets arrested, and will allow children to come into contact with fucked up content instead of complaining, as long as they do not feel morally offended and don’t need to be responsible of taking care of real children, they don’t mind allowing actual children to come to harm.

So just stop pretending you care about children when all you do is taking away the freedom of people who are NOT children while allowing actual children to be ruined by media and organizations.

You fool no one. All you care about is your agenda and morality.

Anonymous sender #wingnut #racist #psycho balkaninsight.com

‘Ustasa’ Letter Threatens Croatian Historian with Death

Croatian historian Hrvoje Klasic, who has criticised the rehabilitation of the WWII fascist Ustasa movement in the country, was sent an anonymous death threat signed in the name of the Ustasa.

Historian Hrvoje Klasic received the death threat letter at his office at Zagreb University’s Faculty of Humanities and Social Sciences on Wednesday after making public statements critical of the rehabilitation of the WWII fascist Ustasa movement in Croatian society.

The anonymous sender or senders, who signed the letter ‘Ustasa’, said they regretted that Klasic had not been “liquidated” yet but hoped he would be.

“We will be glad to attend your funeral in HOS [Croatian Defence Forces, a 1990s wartime paramilitary unit] uniforms on which Za dom spremni [“Ready for the Homeland”, a Ustasa slogan] is nicely highlighted,” the letter said.

It concluded with the words: “Death to traitors – freedom to the people.”

Attached to the letter was a newspaper excerpt in which Klasic said he would welcome a decision by the Austrian authorities to ban and sanction the public display of the WWII Ustasa movement’s symbols.

Earlier this year, the Austrian Interior Ministry banned the display of two Ustasa symbols – the letter ‘U’ with a grenade, and the checkerboard coat of arms of the Nazi-backed WWII-era Independent State of Croatia.

These symbols are often seen at the annual Bleiburg commemoration in Austria, which commemorates the killings of Croatian Nazi collaboration troops and civilians at the end of WWII.

Klasic told BIRN that this was not the first such letter he has received, but that it was the most explicit death threat, and that he will report it to the police.

He said that the fact that he received the letter showed there was a real problem in Croatian society.

“This [letter] is perhaps the best answer to the political elite in power about their thesis that the atmosphere [in society] is normal,” Klasic said. Speaking after a spate of recent attacks on Serbs in Croatia, he said that here had been “too many incidents” in which “those who are different” have been targeted.

“If someone who is named Hrvoje, who is from a 100 per cent Croatian family, who was a volunteer in the ‘Homeland War’ in 1991 and who, as a doctor of historical sciences, speaks publicly about the things that he deals with scientifically [and is threatened for it]… then really, how it is for the people who belong to the ‘wrong groups’?” he asked.


{Submitter’s note: a photo of the letter can be seen in the article linked above. EDIT: A translation of the letter by Vman follows, relaying the approximate style and poor grammar of the original text. Translator’s notes and in-line explanations are given in italics and brackets.}

You [Hrvoje Klasić] participated in [the Croatian daily paper] Večernji List’s poll (on 17.8.19) on the topic of good news this year. For us Ustashe who follow events the best thing that happened was your getting snuffed which meant one traitor less. Unfortunately, our cheer didn’t last long because it turned out that the news was fake. We hope that next time it won’t be. We will gladly come to your funeral in HOS uniforms on which ZA DOM SPREMNI [“Ready for the Homeland”] is nicely highlighted.

For the traitor Klasić, Austria’s decision and especially the award given at the Pula film festival to [film director] Dana Budisavljević for the forgery about [her relative, Holocaust-era hero] Diana Budisavljević are “good news”. Well, you traitorous/Chetnik* piece of shit, facts mean nothing to you. Didn’t [Holocaust revisionist] journalist Igor Vukić and historian Nikica Barić independently reach the same conclusion based on historical facts - that the one who deserves the most credit for the saving of the Kozara children** was [Ustasha dictator and Croatia’s equivalent of Hitler] Ante Pavelić. Had he not allowed and organized aid Diana Budisavljević couldve done fuck all. As both authors concluded, the main culprits for the suffering of those children were the Chetnik and Partisan brigands who rebelled against the state. Once they got their asses kicked, they abandoned the children leaving them in the care of the Croatian state, you motherfucker.

* {the Chetniks were a Serb and Montenegrin ultranationalist militia during WW2 which ended up collaborating with the Axis forces and committing a lot of atrocities.}

** {’Kozara children’ refers to the children of Serb civilians captured during the Axis’s Kozara offensive against the pro-communist Partisans. Many of them were selected for forced labor in Nazi Germany, and once the parents were shipped off, the Ustashe basically left their children to slowly die in horrid and unsanitary conditions. A woman named Diana Budisavljević, together with some sympathetic officials and Catholic Church people, launched an operation to pressure the Ustashe authorities and save the children through adoption into ‘proper Catholic Croat’ families, which was largely successful.}

And regarding ZA DOM SPREMNI itll remain and outlive you, and the Chetniks and the fucking antifascists. You bite your own balls out of frustration when you see how many people, especially young ones, come to the concerts of [neo-Ustashe singer] Marko Perković Thompson and greet him with ZA DOM. We would recommend you read the “Ustashe” media and news portals and not just [Croatian Serb politician Milorad] Pupovac’s Chetnik [newspaper] Novosti. On the “Ustashe” portals, the famous lawyer Zvonimir Hodak writes opinion pieces in which he often mentions you alongside other fifth-columners like [Croatian historians] Goldstein, Jakovina, Markovina… and you refuse to react.

You are a “respectable” historian in your dear Chetnik Serbia, you are always welcome there. Here in Croatia you are a mere activist as excelently noted by historian Mario Jareb.

The USTASHE greet you with ZA DOM SPREMNI

DEATH TO TRAITORS - FREEDOM TO THE PEOPLE***

*** {This is a corruption of the Partisan slogan “Death to fascism - freedom to the people!”}

GodChaser #fundie theresistancemanifesto.com

If Witchcraft's power all about someone believing a lie, I have a major question.

Is it witchcraft that destroys the immune system once someone believes they have HIV and they're immune system is going to be destroyed by HIV?

I've watched a video on HIV = AIDS is a Hoax, and I wonder what everybody's opinion is about this? Is the destruction of the immune system caused by witchcraft, because people believe their immune system is going to be destoryed. No research has proven that HIV actually destroys immunity cells.

However, drugs like AZT and others will destroy immunity cells. Plus drugs people use that 'cause Aids' like heroine, acutally will do more damage to the immune system than HIV can possible do.

dust to dust #conspiracy godlikeproductions.com

The Ball Earth Theory was designed to conceal that Humans appeared on earth in the 1800's.

But on account that many flaws existed in theory TPTB funded the society of flatness to compensate for the flaws. Both theories have flaws, namely both advocate 1 sun and 1 moon.

The following will reveal the flaws of 1 sun, 1 moon:

Flaw #1: If 1-sun was seen everywhere on earth, then those north of the equator (flat or ball) when facing the sun would see the sun travel from left (rise) to right (setting). And those south of the equator-line would see the sun travel from right to left. This not what happens, everyone everywhere sees the sun travel left (rise) to right (setting).

Flaw #2: The sun isn't hydrogen.

"Hydrogen flames in other conditions are blue, resembling blue natural gas flames."
[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

There's no oxygen in outer-space, is there? Hydrogen fusion in space would reflect the color blue. Shouldn't the hydrogen sun burn blue? Of course it would.

Flaw #3: The suns are electric and why solar eclipses are possible. With only 1-sun everyone in daylight zone would see a Solar-Eclipse.

Here's the solar eclipse diagram.
[link to szsdneperska.edupage.org]

Looks a-lot like the new moon diagram.
[link to moonblink.info]

One of these is definitely wrong, right? Wrong! Both are wrong.

Flaw #4: The new moon would always cause a solar eclipse and a solar eclipse would be seen by everyone in daylight zone. And with 1-moon pulling on ocean waters would instantly cause a Low tide everywhere AT THE SAME TIME! Oceans are all connected, 1 body of water, and this not what really happens in the real world.

Here's a photo of the moon taken by the International Space Community.
[link to universe-beauty.com]

The moon is in direct line of sight parallel to the ISS which means the distance the moon's at isn't where the books say it is, in fact if you've flown in an airplane during the day you probably noticed the sun wasn't that much higher than the airplane. And if you took a photo of the sun and compared it with a photo taken from the ground of the sun around the same time perspective of how you see the sun shouldn't be noticeable if the sun is a Gazillion miles away, because flying 5mi up won't change much in its perspective of how the sun is seen from the ground or from an airplane. But it does.

Flaw #5: If there were only 1-sun and 1-moon you wouldn't be able to see the same stars 12 months, and at their same place due to the 23.4° tilt of earth's axis towards the sun or away. Because according to the following diagram we should be able to see different stars at different times of the year and at different angles. On the flat society earth you would see the same stars, hence why TPTB funded the program.
[link to www.buzzle.com]

Note: The stars would be seen lower in winter, higher in the sky in summer. But not in the real world. In real time the stars are always in their proper light-station order. There are multiple suns on earth, and moons, and star-systems for your geographical locations. In conclusion, the earth is an infinite flat plane extending forever in the unknown universe. There are many continents beyond ours with many suns, moon, star-systems. It is highly likely that more life such as ours existed before our own and are highly more developed and advanced.

(No name given) #fundie debunkingskeptics.com

Argument # 29: Atheists don’t claim that God doesn’t exist. They lack belief in God. The burden of proof for God is on the Theist, not the Atheist.

This is a technicality that Atheists use to try to put the burden on the other side. They claim that since “A-theism” means “without a belief in God”, they are not claiming anything and therefore do not have to prove anything. Thus, they claim, the burden of proof is on the Theist, who claims that God exists.

However, this makes little difference either way because their core philosophy toward God is still the same. Deep down, they believe that there is no God, and they know it. The reason why they emphasize this is to try to put themselves in an unattackable position. It’s a semantic ploy. To try to be consistent with it, they will say “There is no evidence for God” rather than “God doesn't exist”, but sometimes they slip up.

They can’t really prove that God doesn’t exist because you can’t prove a negative. Regardless, the Atheist obviously believes deep down that there isn't a God or deity anyway, which is prevalent in their attempts to debunk and refute every single argument for the existence of God. Therefore this trivial debate about the implications of the word “Atheism” seems pointless in substance.

For some critiques of Atheist arguments, see these links:

"How to respond to a Supercilious Atheist": http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/01/how_to_respond_to_a_supercilio.html

"The Irrational Atheists", has a free ebook you can download: http://www.irrationalatheist.com

Ted Deveer #conspiracy returnofkings.com

Is The US Government Planning A Fake Alien Invasion?

I’m Ted, I read old books, and my interest in Stanley Kubrick has nothing, absolutely nothing, to do with my interest in conspiracy theories, not at all, no way. And I like my privacy.

As utterly insane as it sounds, it seems possible that the US Government is preparing to try to convince the world that there is an alien invasion about to happen, in the largest “false flag” since 9/11.

You’re probably bursting out laughing now and asking yourself, “Why would Roosh allow such a crackpot to write an article?” and I’d like to preemptively respond by (a) asking you to give me the benefit of the doubt for the course of these 1,000 words, (b) noting that this is just a hypothesis that we will see proven or disproven over the next months, and (c) making clear: I don’t believe in UFOs or alien lifeforms but I do believe that the media puts on large-scale coordinated shows in conjunction with the government.

Here are five reasons why I think the show—which I’ll call the “Aliens (Bio)attack!” Show—is likely to happen over the next months.

1. The US government is suddenly talking about UFOs

First, in December, the NY Times had an expose which argued that (a) the Department of Defense has videos taken by Air Force pilots of what it believes are UFOs (the video is included in the article at that link); (b) the DoD has some of the materials collected from these UFOs secretly that they are studying; (c) the DoD has a secret department dedicated to tracking UFOs; and (d) many high-level people within the DoD, who have access to classified intelligence that we don’t have access to, believe in UFOs.

This leads me to one of only two conclusions: either aliens exist or the US Government wants us to think that aliens exist. I’m going to make an assumption—that may or may not be true but it’s just a belief I have—that either aliens don’t exist or if they do they’re not in contact with the US government.

I’m a bit too scientific, not to mention too skeptical of what the government tells us, to believe in extraterrestrial intelligence. If you believe the US government is in contact with aliens, then click away—the rest of this article isn’t for you. This leaves me with only one conclusion: for some reason, the DoD wants us to think aliens exist. Why would they want to do that?

2. The media is excited to spread UFO theories

Second, this article is part of a deluge from the mass media of alien articles over the last months. And we know that the US federal government has deep ties to the press. Just days before the NY Times expose, Newsweek published “Alien Life: Europa Plate Tectonics could be Feeding Life on Icy Jupiter Moon” (Dec 5th 2017) and “Do Aliens Exist?” (Dec 8th 2017), presciently predicting the trend of the month. Google Trends shows how it’s suddenly being spoken about online non-stop out of the blue.

Incredibly, the CIA’s official Twitter account is now tweeting with instructions on how to take photos of UFOs. In October, NASA claimed that a cylindrical asteroid-like object that they can’t identify is flying 100,000 mph in our solar system, but it is from another solar system, the first time ever an object is in our solar system that originated in a different one. It has apparently been named Oumuamua, which doubly-presciently means “messenger” in Hawaiian.

All the articles before the expose and the official CIA tweets about it make it harder to argue that it’s just a cool topic for the media to talk about since the expose; it must be deeper than that.

3. Aliens make for a great external threat that can get citizens to rally behind the government

Third, it makes sense for the government to do this, from their eyes. It’s a way to unite the entire country (or world) against a common enemy, while also an excuse for a power grab. And an easy way to steal more money—oh, we need vaccines against alien viruses, my friend’s company happens to make them and it will cost $10 billion—but we need it!

Plus, if the deep state is in a war against the President, as seems to be the case, then the deep state probably needs to activate some pretty extreme contingency backup plans it had been planning for a long time. Break glass in case of emergency.

4. Alien-obsessed Blink 182 singer is deeply connected to the CIA/NSA apparatus

Fourth, there’s a weird connection with Tom DeLonge, the singer of Blink 182. He just created a UFO-seeking company whose board and advisors are all the first rate CIA/NSA operatives. And he goes on Joe Rogan’s podcast and has a bizarre interview in which he seems to know nothing about UFOs or his new company.

The best synthesis of DeLonge’s weird behavior—creating this UFO company, somehow getting all these top CIA/NSA operatives as his advisors, yet knowing nothing about any of it—is that he’s a front man, trying to use his huge following to bring more widespread acceptance to his “belief” in aliens.

5. The “aliens attack” plan was long ago revealed through code name Project Blue Beam

Fifth, there have been conspiracy theories in which people have been whispering about this for decades. Just Google “Project Blue Beam” or “Serge Monast” and many articles, from decades ago, will discuss these multi-decade plans. A good starting point is a speech Monast gave summarizing Project Blue Beam 20 years ago, shortly before his mysterious death.

Another good starting point is RationalWiki’s page about it, which—although it argues this is a fake conspiracy theory and doesn’t exist—is an excellent summary of the idea. Plus reading and considering both sides of any debate with an open mind is essential to intellectual honesty.

How will it play out? I have no idea. But I’m willing to put forth a testable hypothesis: over 2018, we’re going to see more and more media about aliens, including more top scientists (“Stephen Hawking”—name in quotes on purpose) and Hollywood celebrities believing in UFOs and that they’re coming. This is testable using Google Trends to track what’s being discussed online. All this chatter led by the Mainstream Media will build up to some sort of attack, likely a bioattack, that may or may not happen in 2018.

Lets see how this plays out, but regardless of whether it happens or not… we live in interesting times.

Newbaum Turk #fundie media.www.osusentinel.com

Evolution is a meta-theory in the sense that it cannot be tested. If you cannot empirically test or experiment in order to probe the validity of the theory, it cannot be proven or disproven. Scientists rely all-too-heavily on questionable data that either supports the theory or doesn't fit neatly into it. In other words, everything that is evolutionary in nature is explained by evolution, which is practically a tautology.

Second, and more importantly, it is entirely possible to discuss intelligent design without EVER mentioning God. Let me write that a second time so that it sinks in: intelligent design (ID) theory, unlike creationism, uses science and mathematics and does NOT require the use of the word "God."

James True #conspiracy #crackpot #magick jtrue.com

Here’s what we know:

1.) A bunch of empty tents are waiting for bodies.

2.) The Hal Turner Radio Show claims that at least eleven (11) busloads of US troops, some of them carrying M-16 rifles, have arrived for deployment at a large train station in Brunswick, Maryland.

3.) No one is “allowed” to leave their home, thereby making it easy to determine where most people are.

4.) No one is asking if covid19 could be environmental. In fact, YouTube is actively censoring anyone trying to ask if its Gee to the fifth.

5.) The military is deployed domestically and they’ve been told they’re here to take people off trains.

6.) FifthersofGness was announced and deployed as crucial for covid19 recovery and national security.

7.) The track record of Washington DC.

8.) There is no gold standard for covid19 testing. Coronavirus is inside of everybody.

9.) MSM says: “Even a negative test means nothing.” “Millions must be tested.” “We have to take these people out of their homes… even if they have almost no symptoms.” “This is just the beginning”

10.) The Passover ritual starts tomorrow.

11.) Trump said the next two weeks would be hard.

12.) Trains and military are here to take people away under the cloak of covid19. This can be anybody they want. We are in our homes so the Holy Ghost can fly over our doorway and removing anyone with the wrong blood. If you don’t know the meaning of Passover it involves eating a goat, not breaking its bones, and smearing the blood over your door. Those with the blood were “passed-over.” Everyone is under quarantine so they are most likely at home.

13.) If you don’t trust the government, you might want to leave your house starting tomorrow for a week. Trump has already authorized pre-crime investigations, and now he has declared war on covid-19. Covid-19 is humanity.

14.) Passover Ritual lasts for 7 days. This is why he said the next two weeks would be hard.

15.) In Rome, only the representative of Jupiter can sacrifice a human inside the city walls. This is why Trump’s face is always painted orange. He is the Jupiter and the Cyrus.

16.) 10 of 11 incense is burning in the Third Temple and priests have asked Israel for permission to sacrifice a lamb on the mount thereby initiating the irreversible temple ritual leading to Yom Kippur.

17.) Trump is elected and works with Mossad. Everything Trump does is Kabbalah/ritual-oriented.

18.) This Yom Kippur is six days after the 19th anniversary of 9/11. There are seven seals in the book of Revelation. If the first is opened on 9//11, that gives six more days to open each seal. On Yom Kippur, the Holy of Holies can be entered with all seven seals open.

19.) Only by knowing this is happening can we turn this energy into something positive. There is a powerful plasma behind belief and consent. Magic is a technology of presence, will, and sacrifice. The Passover Sacrifice is humanity’s innocence and trust of government as a shepherd. The only fix is to revoke your consent and place it back into the land. You have to place yourself deep in her soil and say you chose her over him. Awareness of their ritual and what is happening is the key to its alchemy. We must shift from the lamb to the lion.

In ten days or so we’ll either know how important it is to ignore everything I tell you, or we’ll know the opposite. Either way, I have no idea what’s going to happen. My desire for it not to be true is the only proof I can offer for the likelihood of it not. My desire for it not to happen is the only thing blinding me from seeing it clearly.

There hasn’t been one thing honest about this virus or Trump’s response. And everything I am predicting has happened before. These people have always cut down the groves. They have always spread pulverized bones over the land to cover up our ancestors. Those same people who did 9/11 control our government now. They knew Trump was coming since before he was born. It’s not a prophecy from God – it’s a ritual read from a Talmudic scroll.

RILEIGHJO #fundie youtube.com

(An amusing exchange in the comments section)

god didn't appreciate that comment ayamagab. he's making you a tentative reservation in hell. you better straighten up!

[I'm sorry you seem to have mistaken me for one of those people who fear imaginary people who live in the clouds and have nothing better to do than spy on me like a voyeur lookig through binoculars and touching them selves. And that was a pretty quik responce to my post. Do religious nuts like you spend there time looking for people who insult there god so that they can write a pointless coment that dosent fase me in the least Point 1 for atheists.]

point 1 will be the point of satan's pitchfork as you become his slightly charred ass-kabob. on judgement day, beelzabub's bozak will slowly straighten with anticipation of your arrival. you and all the other non believers will boil in a gaint vat of bubbling liberal waste. oh God the smell! flame on dumbass! flame on! points 1 to infinity to the righteous.

Anon #racist amren.com

Implies they have a choice. Monsters do not choose to do what they do. It's part of the reason they are monsters. What really makes a monster is they can mimic the human trait of choice.

Blacks are not malevolent people....such implies the capacity to be anything but. Quite frankly, it outrageously assumes the "few bad apples" hypothesis when outrage crimes are near universal among them.

Blacks are pod people. Most are like CHUD. Obvious what they are. But some seem perfectly normal....until they get you alone. Then, its like that movie The Thing. Almost impossible to tell, when they are acting human (and it is only an act). When they get you alone, the alien thing inside them jumps out and it is shocking how you could ever have not seen it.

tmsaber2 #fundie youtube.com

jesus would be hanging out with them...showing them the error of their ways. Look i dont want to sound like a jesus freak but flat out homosexuality is wrong. if you want to say we're just animals then why isnt there gay animals. fact is i know gay people, i dont agree with their choices, and if anyone asks me ill tell them i think it should be illegal. besides, its not natural, you can tell that by the human anatomy.

Michael Houdmann #fundie compellingtruth.org

How old is the Earth?
Mankind determining the age of the earth is a bit like the proverbial blind men inspecting an elephant in order to derive the development of its internal organs. In science, facts about the natural world are best discovered using the scientific method, wherein a hypothesis is tested until it can be proven or disproven. Events that are too small, too far away, or too long ago can only be surmised by analyzing the data at hand. A theory gains credibility when another clue is discovered which agrees, or when the theory predicts a consequential discovery which is later confirmed.

The age of the earth is a matter that is, of course, too long past for experimentation. If its development is related to the formation of other planets, stars, etc., distance is added to the mix, making analysis all but impossible.

But there is one more factor which completely derails any objective discovery—the character and social environment of those doing the discovering. It is nearly impossible to procure the resources and support required to study the issue unless the researcher agrees to begin with the assumption that the earth is billions and billions of years old. For one, the presumption is so deeply ingrained in the scientific community that it has reached the level of a moral imperative. In addition, the evidence available is too incomplete to lead to a concrete answer on its own. Data cannot be interpreted in a way that will lead to any kind of conclusion unless an underlying assumption is made first. If this sounds like circular reasoning, it's because it is.

There is a small group of scientists, largely marginalized or even mocked, who begin with the assumption that the biblical account of creation in Genesis 1 and 2 is literal, and the earth is quite young. Because of the nature of scientific resource allocation, the bulk of their time is spent refuting the conclusions old-earth scientists make from the data at hand. Inasmuch as we can scientifically deduce long ago events, their findings are worth considering.

The three main fields regarding the age of the earth are astronomy, geology, and theology.

Astronomy may be one of the most difficult branches of science to study. The subjects are too far away to monitor directly, and much of the interest in the subject deals with events in the far past. Scientists have deduced that the universe began billions of years ago after a super explosion—the Big Bang. The gases coalesced into stars and then galaxies sometime later.

Besides the great amount of improvable conjecture involved in such a claim, there are two glaring problems. The first is in regards to the speed at which our galaxy rotates. At such a speed, had it been in existence for the billions of years claimed, the highly definable arms would have smeared into a disk. In fact, the stars would have spread out after only a few hundred million years. The shapes of the galaxies do not support billions of years of existence.

The second issue is the lack of supernovae. A supernova is a star that has exploded, leaving behind a cloud of particles. At the current rate of supernova explosions, a billion-year universe should be filled with the remains of dead stars. Instead, we can see only about 200—the amount expected to form in about 7000 years.

The discussion regarding the geological evidence of the age of the earth is broader and more puzzling. In an environment where improvable assumptions are essential for professional assistance and advancement, half-understood theories are touted as fact, obscuring a purer, objective analysis.

Many scientists believe they can accurately determine the age of rocks using a process called radiometric dating. Heavy elements, such as uranium, gradually degrade over time, losing protons, neutrons, and electrons until the atoms literally transform into a different element. By comparing how much of the heavier "mother" element a rock contains compared to the lighter "daughter" element, it's thought that the time since the rock has cooled from magma can be determined. Unfortunately, this process makes some erroneous assumptions. One is that the original magma contained absolutely no daughter elements. Another is that the rate of decay has stayed the same in the billions of years since the rock cooled. Both of these assumptions have been proven problematic. Samples from the same area in the Grand Canyon have given wildly different ages. And rock formed from lava which hardened mere decades ago in New Zealand and the crater of Mt. St. Helens have given results consistent with rocks that are supposed to be millions of years old.

Carbon-14 is an isotope of carbon that is used to measure the age of previously organic material in fossils up to 60,000 years old. Carbon-14 is made when cosmic radiation strikes a nitrogen atom, turning one of its protons into a neutron, and turning the nitrogen atom into carbon. This carbon atom latches onto oxygen atoms making carbon dioxide which is absorbed by plants and eaten by animals. Once the animal dies, thereby ending its procurement of any type of carbon, the C-14 atom decays. Carbon-14 has two extra neutrons in its nucleus, creating a chemically unstable situation. One of the neutrons will convert to a proton, changing the element back to nitrogen. It takes 5730 years for half of the C-14 to revert back to nitrogen. Thus, if the original amount of C-14 is known, the time the source died can be determined. This initial amount is deduced by the fairly stable ration of C-12 and C-14 currently present in our atmosphere, using the assumption that the planet is billions of years old and has had time to come to a C-12/C-14 equilibrium. If, however, the magnetic field around the earth has changed over the millennia, and if the Genesis Flood is true, today's C-12/C-14 ration cannot be considered a standard. The distinction is critical because at 40 million years old, fossils should have no C-14 left. And at 100,000 years old, coal beds shouldn't either. But they do. As do diamonds which are supposed to be millions or billions of years old.

The optimistic assumption that radioactive elements were pure, or at least knowable, in the formation of the parent rock is a noble thought, but presumptuous. A simpler answer is the earth has not maintained the steady state old-earth scientists believe. And the global Flood had a much larger impact than imagined. Both of these would indicate the age of the earth is much younger than previously thought.

Theological issues don't concern those old-earth proponents who choose to be atheists, but scientists who believe the earth is quite old—yet still the work of a Creator—find themselves up against a wall. In their attempt to maintain credibility with the secular society while keeping their standing in the church, they get a little creative with the text and the work of God in human history.

Language comes into play in two different ways in this argument. The first is the translation of the word "day" in the creation account of Genesis 1. Old-earth creationists claim the Hebrew word can mean an undefined span of time. Theologians who believe Genesis 1 is to be taken literally point out that the usage of a number with the Hebrew word (such as "second day") always means a literal day. In addition, in verses 5, 8, 13, 19, 23, and 31, the writer uses the phrase "there was evening and there was morning…" No amount of semantical gymnastics could force this phrase to infer the earth is billions of years old.

Old earth creationists also use language to claim that Genesis 1-11—the creation and the Flood stories—are not historical accounts. They are poetry, meant to provide a lyrical summary of God's work to a scientifically unsophisticated people. Steven W. Boyd, Ph.D., completed a study to determine if this was the case. His statistical study of verb usage in Hebrew literature determined that the chance that Genesis 1:1-2:3 is historical narrative and not poetry is %99.9942. Meaning to say, the author of Genesis, inspired by the Holy Spirit (2 Timothy 3:16-17; 2 Peter 1:20-21), meant to write a historically accurate account, not a symbolic metaphor.

The second theological issue regarding the age of the earth deals with the relationship between sin and death. God told Adam that if he ate from the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil, he would die. Adam ate, and God not only promised him death in Genesis 3:19, He ensured Adam would die by guarding the Tree of Life (Genesis 3:22-24). Romans 5:12 clearly says, "… sin came into the world through one man, and death through sin …" If this is the case, if death entered because of Adam's sin, if the world before Adam's sin was "very good," how can old-earth proponents justify billions of years of animal violence? Or cancer in the bones of dinosaurs? Or the story of sin in relation to the evolution of mankind? How could Adam have been descended from apes and Neanderthals long dead if he, himself, brought sin and death to mankind?

If the Bible is God's inspired Word, and not the recordings of a primitive people telling each other stories, then the age of the earth is present in its text, waiting for science to catch up. The genealogies say the earth is about 6000 years old. The Flood account gives more than ample explanation for many of the geological anomalies we find. And Genesis 1–3 clearly explain the theological relationship between first man's sin and all mankind's death. We choose what to believe. We can choose to follow a manmade theory (Romans 1:25) in order to gain man-given praise (Romans 2:29), or we can choose to believe the Bible is the inspired Word of God, that God is intimately involved in creation, and that manmade science just hasn't caught up yet (1 Corinthians 4:5). The age of the earth is not a salvation issue. There are many godly Christians who believe the earth is billions of years old. And yet the motivation for believing in an old earth may be a salvation issue if we crave the approval of men more than God (John 12:37-43).

Preston James #conspiracy veteranstoday.com

Russian President Vladimir Putin seems to be walking with a prideful swagger in his step lately.

In spite of growing conflicts between Israel-driven-America and Russia over Syria, Iran and now the Ukraine, he appears unusually confident.

Other world leaders involved appear to be increasingly stressed out by these growing conflicts, but not President Putin.

What could be going on in the background which might explain this blatant confidence and swagger of president Putin?

Unsubstantiated rumors have been seeping out of deep contacts inside Russian Space Command the last few weeks that, not only does the new Putin’s Russia have a well developed Secret Space war Program, but that this Program provides substantial ultra-high-tech back-engineered offensive and defensive weaponry.

And that such advanced weaponry can and will be deployed if Israel is able to once again deploy their hijacked American War Machine to start another Proxy War, this time in the Ukraine against Putin’s New Russia.

"Do Russians now have access to Space War Weapons based on back-engineered Alien ET technology gained through a new treaty negotiated between Putin and a certain group of Alien ETs who are enemies of the group controlling the World Zionists (WZs) and the International Zionist Crime Syndicate (IZCS)?"

And even stranger, has this same Alien ET group who claim to be the avowed enemies of another Alien ET group which is directing the WZs and the IZCS the “Dracos”, also contacted a certain newly-emerging and powerful secret group inside the Secret Shadow Government (SSG) and American Intel?

And with these reputed contacts, has this group of American Defense and Intel up-and-comers started to exert dominance over the US War Machine? Have they become convinced that the WZs and the IZCS must be stopped because their intent is to deploy DHS to tyrannize, enslave and serially mass-murder about 80% of all Americans?

And have they become aware that the 9/11 attacks were False-Flag, Gladio-style, inside-job attacks run by Israel, Israeli-American dual citizens, NeoCons, and PNAC individuals and had nothing to do with Arabs, but were merely False-Flag terror to justify more illegal, unprovoked, unconstitutional, undeclared wars of aggression in the Middle East as a proxy Wars for Israel?

"Has this powerful group of up-and-comers inside America become convinced that DHS and its overlords and the true Hijackers of America (AIPAC, B’nai B’rith, the ADL, SPLC and the like) must be stopped cold now before they destroy America and all its Christian and Deist Institutions and the very American Republic itself, which is the secret Goal of the WZs and the IZCS?"

A powerful new treaty has apparently been established between one group of Alien ETs (the Tall White Nordics) and Putin’s New Russia. This new treaty President Putin has supposedly negotiated with this particular Alien ET group is purported to be like the ones American leaders negotiated with in the 1950’s and early 1960’s. However this particular Alien Group group is purported to be substantially anti-WZ and anti-IZCS. Their view is reputed to be that the core of all the mass death and destruction of at least the last 500 years has its origins all the way to the Roman Empire and ancient Babylonia, and is now reflected in the policies imposed on America by the WZs and the IZCS, which is undoubtedly the world’s largest organized crime syndicate.

This crime syndicate the IZCS specializes in illegal drug and arms trafficking, money laundering, large corporate “bust-outs”, sex trafficking and sex slavery (especially eastern Euro and Ukrainian young girls taken to Israel for “captive prostitution”), trafficking in children for pedophilia operations, American pornography, and massive human compromise operations to gain and hold control over top politicians, government Intel, military and Intel officials. The WZs and the IZCS are based on an ancient “Death Cult”, “Money-Magick” and “black arts” philosophy dating all the way back to Babylon.

And so far the best information available suggests that this “City of London” Zionist Death Cult philosophy is based on an anti-human death-based religion created and deployed by the Dracos (Luciferian Reptilians) who reached an apex of power under the City of London private Central Banksters (whom they mind-kontrolled and en-cultured).

"This new group of Alien ETs also has claimed that the “Dracos”, aka Reptoids from the “Dark Side”, hijacked the City of London when first incorporated. These evil and ancient Dracos, using the same technologies which they did in ancient Babylon before being driven out for many centuries, built up and then deployed their main Action-agents and Cutouts, Israel and America. they are believed to be World Zionism and using the rackets of the IZCS for off-the-books large funding for their Zionist lackeys to but more and more politicians through AIPAC and the like.
It was under Evil, anti-human Draco Power, the City of London Zionist private Central Banksters (COLZPCB) hijacked America in 1913. At that time America essentially became a new province of the City of London private Central Banksters using Draco-based Babylonian “Money-Magick.”
The Dracos are believed to be the arch enemies of humankind, actual human parasites that live off of intense human suffering and death. Allegedly they are “negative energy vampires” that live off of manufactured human suffering and traumatic death. These Dracos are believed to have set up “death Cults” like Skull and Bones (Russell Trust), satanic cults, pedophile rings in high government circles, and various types of interlinked luciferian cults which have been used to completely hijack the highest levels of Freemasonry. These death cults are designed to “dirty up” and corrupt all humans, that is, to soften folks up in order to make it easier for their very souls to be “snatched” from them.
After the City of London established a Beachhead in America with its unConstitutional, criminal private Federal Reserve Central Bank, it was then later able to create, finance, build-up and deploy its new nation of Khazarian Judaic converts (the new post-WW2 “Israel”). Once accomplished, the City of London Rothschild World Zionists have been able to deploy Israel as their main Action-agent and Cutout to begin the transformation of America into a Zionist Israeli province and upcoming new Gaza (Gaza II). The party responsible for directing this transformation of America into a neo-Bolshevik tyranny is Israeli controlled Department of Homeland Security, which has now been dubbed the New American Gestapo, the New American Stasi, or the New American Red Cheka mass-murder operation (take your pick).
The purpose of these occult-linked organizations set up all over the world, supported by Draco powers, is believed to allow the eradication/extinction of all humans on Earth incrementally through war, disease, famine and pestilence. In order to condition “up-and-comers” to do their dirty work, the Dracos generate the false ideologies of “Survival of the Fittest” by the “thinning of the herd” as delusions. These delusional philosophies trick human leaders into leading their subjects and eventually all humans to their own destruction, like lemmings jumping off a cliff.
After the end of WW2, the City of London Banksters set up the new phony racial state of Israel to do their dirty work. To keep the new Israeli citizens adequately motivated to do their evil, they created a strong racial delusion based on the so-called “holocaust,” aka “self-deployed fiery sacrifice”. WZ propagandists periodically pound Israeli citizens and foreign based Judaics with the idea that unless they take down the whole world through World Zionism they will once again be persecuted and attempts to annihilate them will be made once again.
This deployment of an exaggerated, racial persecution delusion created the necessary background allowing the false charge of Anti-Semitism to be leveled against anyone or any group attempting to investigate what really happened during the WW2 “Work Camp” persecution of “low Judaics” by “fake/high Judaics/zionists who sat in the background in the City of London calling the shots.
This use of Israel as an artificially constructed so-called “racial state” based on racial delusions and falsities has worked so well playing on the sympathies of Americans and other Western Nations. This has allowed Israel to completely hijack America, asset strip it almost bare, and use it as a captive force to wage its foreign proxy wars against entities who were not enemies of America at all, but who were artificially created to appear so by deception. And now for the first time, these toxic World Zionists (WZs), NeoCons and Israeli-American dual citizen Traitors are transforming America into a new War Zone by the creation and deployment of the Zionist, pervert-driven Department of Homeland Security.
Yes, WZ’s are not only attacking the Ukraine to weaken President Putin’s New Russia but are now staging a serious major internal war to be waged against Americans inside America by DHS. And DHS has secret plans to incrementally mass-murder up to 80% of all Americans eventually. DHS and those behind it are the true “Enemy Within The Gates” of America and all involved at the senior management positions are Traitors who deserve to be prosecuted for RICO crimes and TREASON and SEDITION, which are capital Crimes."

MarcaDelZorro09 #conspiracy youtube.com

It's incredible what is going on!! Absolutely blown by this video. Orphan Red, regardless of what people say about you, with this video you've silenced thousands.
On other note: It's very strange to me that these experiments were conducted exclusively by Brazilians. The country well known to be a strong arm of the illuminaty, masons, or jesuits(whatever you prefer) that they inferred there is more land, that no one dear to call on the liars, the manipulators of this reality. Simply staying textbooks must beging to change, as if it's already pre scripted.
I do have an issue with Brazilians. They destroyed a neighboring country with the help of Argentina, Uruguay, England and the catholic churh, in the mid 1800's. All because the native language spoken there (I found out) describe the biblical account of heavens been made of water, and that water is under the earth also.
Very suspecious of these "scientific efforts of these people."
In my opinion, the flat earth will be adopted eventually as the real place in which we all live. But, here come the Brazilians, "earth is as a giant asteroid floating in space." There you go!! Another type of deception been put in place!!

Jim Stone #conspiracy 82.221.129.208

Is Michelle Obama really "Michael?"

I thought Alex Jones committed career suicide when he made that claim, but it might actually be so.

I do not think it is a maxi pad in the linked Youtube video.

When I woke up this morning, I thought about what I had posted here and wanted to take it down. Because it is too unbelievable. But what if? The only thing lacking on this topic is an open admission, and we won't get that. And why is Obama pushing the gay/transgender issue so hard, when that is not even the president's job? He should be impeached for that. What in the world is going on? Perhaps there are a few clues here.

Take a look at this youtube video, which has "Michael" dancing on the Ellen Degenerate show. If it really is "Michael," he forgot to wear a jock, and his balls showed clearly:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvAxiHEezeM

Take a look at Michael's hand. I have confirmed this over numerous photos, and it is absolutely real- Michael has a man's hands. A woman's hand has a ring finger that is approximately equal in length to the index finger, or slightly shorter. If it is longer, it will only be by a very small amount. A man's hand has a ring finger that is unquestionably longer than the index finger, and in Michael's case, this trait is exaggerated, it is OBVIOUSLY a man's hand, more so than even Obamas!

Joan rivers died under suspicious circumstances two months after stating the following on a live television camera, while being chased by reporters and in a bad mood:

"We already have [the first gay president] with Obama, so let's just calm down. You know Michelle is a tranny... a transgender. We all know." This statement by Joan Rivers, where she says "tranny . . . a transgender" is said in a way that makes it perfectly clear she meant what she said. And why say "we all know"? because it would be a huge running topic the insiders all know about.

When you take all the other traits - the wrong shoulders, which are way too wide and quite manly even from the back, and a hip size that is noticeably smaller than the shoulders, as well as a head to body ratio that is 8:1 which matches a man's perfectly (a woman's is 7:1) and no amount of hormone therapy is going to change the actual hardware under the skin) it seems "Michelle" probably really is Michael and Alex really was not off his rocker.

Fitting it is that Obama would write legislation forcing transgenders and crossdressers to be allowed in the women's bathroom, I believe we really do have a gay president as Joan Rivers said. No problems with "mistresses" at the Obama white house. Fitting end to America - that is exactly what the Jewish community would want in office to bring about the final end of a nation that was founded on Godly principles.

And I now have very little doubt that Obama's kids are adopted and matched for appearances, and would not be surprised if "child protective services" stole them from the real parents as babies. Such is corruption at the highest order and if the above is actually true, you know the luciferian elite would take it all to the MAX.

Bandog sent:

From Bandog -- I thought this was old news, but since you're on the topic, "Serena" Williams is also a man: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwrP1zHC5Eo as is his brother "Venus". I believe all three are big projects by the Satanists, hence Rivers' murder (see Wikipedia page, where docs admit it). BTW, I've been collecting ebooks and was surprised to find those of Judith Reisman are not offered in ebook form on Amazon, only hardcopy. Get 'em while you can! Please persist relentlessly on this topic, per bandog.jpg . thanks

My response: I did not say anything on this topic until I believed it was a 100 percent certainty.

Why would I hesitate to publish this? EASY ANSWER: Because if this is true, it proves that the secret service is a front, that all of America's screening processes are a front, that the FBI, CIA, NSA, DHS and all the other "security" agencies are cold hearted scams that do nothing to protect the country, and that is a lot to say. Because you can't tell me they did not know this, and it would have been their job to prevent this presidency if they were still legitimate. I KNOW IT "SEEMED" OBVIOUS THAT THEY ARE ALL SCAMS, BUT THIS PROVES IT, we need a complete overthrow of government and a rooting out and jailing of entire government agencies. It would be better to empty the prisons and let whoever is in them (sight unseen) loose and pack them full of "public servants" that allowed and caused this to go on and that is a lot to say. If Trump does not get in and subsequently clean house, the legitimacy of the United States is toast, and it will be a proven hive of parasites that do nothing but suck the blood out of hard working well meaning people.

This just killed it for me, You cannot have two gays and a tranny kept secret in front of the public while they occupy the nation's highest office unless all public authority is completely rotten and needs to be ripped out, jailed in an old oil tanker and sunk to the bottom of a trench. The security agencies are not working for the nation, and are instead most likely proxies of a foreign power that wants America totally wiped out. It cannot be any other way if the first lady is a tranny.

Patrick Scrivener #conspiracy reformation.org


JAY AND HILLARY ROCKEFELLER ENGINEERED 9/11

"And there shall be upon every high mountain, and upon every high hill, rivers and
streams of waters in the day of the great slaughter, when the towers fall"
(Isaiah 30: 25).

The nightmarish 8-years that the Clintons spent in the White House were just the precursor for something far, far worse to come in the future. Hillary did not like her position as co-President . . . so she was planning on running for the Presidency in 2008. Even if she ran the White House behind the scenes, the wife of an ex-President is not considered fully qualified to replace her husband in that position. Additionally, the Constitution makes no provision for a SHE in that exalted position.

1999, Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan was the senior senator from New York and Charles "Chuck" was the junior senator.

Senator Moynihan was a 3rd term senator but he decided not to run for an almost guaranteed 4th term.

There were many contenders for the vacant Senate seat . . . especially Hillary Clinton Rockefeller.

To catapult her into the White House in 2008, Hillary decided to move home to New York, and obtain the vacant Senate seat from there. Unfortunately, there were many other candidates who had a much better chance of filling Senator Moynihan's vacant seat.

One such candidate was John F. Kennedy Jr....His name alone was enough to open any door to any position in the government:

In the end, John was still convinced his best shot was at running for Moynihan Senate seat. Hillary Clinton had hesitated to enter the race largely because she feared John, who was being touted behind the scenes as her principal rival for the nomination, would be a formidable foe. John was heir both to the Kennedy magic and People's "Sexiest Man Alive", as well as the consummate New Yorker, a resident of the city since the age of three. Although New York had no residency requirements, Hillary, who had never spent more than a few days at a time in New York, would be branded as a carpetbagger. (Andersen, The Good Son, p. 320).

JFK Jr. was in a perfect position to fill the vacant Senate seat and from there he would have been a very viable Presidential candidate in 2008.

John F. Kennedy Jr., son of the assassinated President, was a lawyer, journalist, and editor of a very popular magazine named George.

He was also an international celebrity and had just obtained his pilot's licence.

In 1996, Kennedy married a beautiful woman named Carolyn Jeanne Bessette.

On July 16, 1999, John F, Kennedy Jr., his wife Carolyn, and her older sister Lauren where all killed in a "plane crash" off Martha's Vineyard. The official explanation was the crash was due to adverse weather conditions at that time.

The bodies were recovered from the ocean floor by Navy divers and taken by motorcade to the county medical examiner's office, where autopsies revealed that the crash victims had died upon impact. JFK Jr. was cremated . . . and then his ashes were scattered over the very spot where his assassination took place.

The next serious opposition to Hillary replacing Senator Moynihan was the mayor of New York City named Rudy Juliani.

Mayor Rudy Juliani was Hillary's next potential rival for the vacant Senate seat.

Just as he began to campaign, he developed "pancreatic cancer" and he was involved in an affair with another women.

With both rivals out of the way, Hillary chose a politician named Enrico "Rick" Lazio to run against her!!

U.S. elections are actually decided by debates, and who gives the best performance on TV. Besides voter fraud, Richard Nixon lost the 1960 election to JFK because JFK looked more telegenic to the female voters.

The race between Lazio and Hillary Clinton became the most expensive Senate campaign ever conducted at the time. In a September 13, 2000 debate, Lazio left his podium and asked Clinton to sign a document affirming a pledge to abstain from benefiting from “soft money.”

The Senate race was decided by a debate between Hillary and Rick Lazio.

Lazio was confrontational, and demanded that Hillary sign a document right then and there. The female voters viewed Lazio as a male chauvinist bully and voted en masse for Hillary.

All Trump has to do is demand that Hillary sign a paper stating that she is medically fit to become President!!

Lazio was specifically chosen to THROW the Senate race by acting foolishly and making Hillary look like a victim of political persecution. That "controlled opposition", and Rockefeller money, worked wonders because Hillary won the Senate race. After Hillary became Senator, Lazio was well rewarded financially for his perfidy.

With her hand on the Bible, Hillary Rockefeller was sworn in as a United States Senator by Vice President Al Gore in the Old Senate Chamber, as President Clinton and Chelsea Clinton look on, January 3, 2001.

Remarkably, the most powerful man in the U.S. Senate at that time was Hillary's uncle "Jay."

Billionaire Jay represented the poor coal miners of West Virginia!!

What a coincidence that the most powerful man in the U.S. Senate was John Davison "Jay" Rockefeller IV. In Europe, whenever anybody has a numeral after their name, they are considered ROYALTY and treated with deference. During the Great Depression, the Rockefellers also bought the bankrupt state of West Virginia and "Jay" used it as a springboard to the U.S. Senate.

As head of the Senate "Intelligence" Committee, Jay was the boss of the Pentagon, plus the CIA, FBI, and all the other departments of the government.
9/11 was all about conquering Iraq, Syria, and Crimea before Hillary became President in 2008!!

Uncle Jay assured Hillary that she could run as a "peace candidate" in 2008 if the Pentagon could get their "mission accomplished" before that date. That was the reason for the Pearl Harbor type 9/11 false flag operation.

The Twin Towers were built by a "Mickey Mouse" construction company named the Karl Koch Erecting Company.

Their bid for the job was $20 million, whereas U.S. and Bethlehem Steel's bid was about $120 million.

Of course, the buildings were not meant to stay up very long as they were competition for 30 Rockefeller Plaza.

The Twin Towers were built like BIRDCAGES with absolutely no reinforcements in the center. Here is a quote from Karl Koch III, President of the company:

That weekend, I visited my father at Sands Point. He said he had seen the Trade Center, and that from the outside, it looked as though we had done a good job. "But Karl," he said, "there's no steel in that building."
"There's a lot of steel in that job, Pop," I said. "Two hundred thousand tons."
"I didn't see any steel," he said.
"The whole wall is steel," I said. "It's like a birdcage."
Dad stared into my eyes. It wasn't the wall he was talking about; it was the floors. "It's wide open," he said. "Is every floor like that? What's going to hold that building up?"
"The floor paneling system," I explained. "That gives the outer wall its lateral support. It's the modern way of building skyscrapers."Dad shook his head. "The design is bad," he said. "It isn't strong. There should be steel columns across the whole floor to keep those ceilings up. Where are the beams and columns?"
"They're spanning the open floor area with trusses, Pop. It's a new, modern design" (Koch, Men of Steel, pp. 338-339).

Those 2 buildings were just temporary until Rockefeller was ready for his Pearl Harbor II.

The Twin Towers were demolished by explosives and a small nuclear weapon hidden in the basement.

It was Pearl Harbor II, with the Pentagon providing a convenient excuse to invade, Iraq, Syria, and Crimea.

The birdcage construction of the Twin Towers made them very easy to demolish. Old buildings are usually demolished by explosives perfectly timed to prevent damage to surrounding buildings.

Another reason for 9/11 was to get rid of a fearless reporter named Barbara Olsen.

Barbara Olsen (a last days Deborah) was a lawyer and well known TV personality.

She was the bane of Hillary, as she just published a damning expose entitled Hell to Pay: The Unfolding Story of Hillary Rodham Clinton.

Hillary hated the very ground she walked on and demanded that she be killed in a "plane crash" on 9/11.

Barbara Olsen was a fearless critic of Hillary Rockefeller and she was #1 on her hit list for 9/11:

We already know that in her relentless quest for power Hillary has been as financially acquisitive and ethically agile as any politician. But she also has pursued a politics of vendetta, deceit, and extremist ideology to a remarkable degree. Hillary's embryonic Senate campaign has shown that she is determined to let nothing stand in the way of the next step in her ambitious career. She has also proven that for those who are in her way or who fail to help her, there will indeed be "hell to pay. " Never have the stakes been so high–both for her and for her opportunity to change the nation. (OIsen, Hell to Pay, p. 316).

The "official story" was that Barbara was a passenger on Flight 77 which was flown into the Pentagon. Incredibly, her husband, Theadore Olsen, was not with her on that flight and he survived.

It seems like a lot of trouble to kill one person but such was the hatred of Hillary for fearless critic Barbara Olsen. The Rockefeller juggernaut is an equal opportunity killer as they will go after females who oppose them just as readily as males.

On March 19, 2003, at the behest of Jay and Hillary, President Bush announced "Operation Iraqi Freedom."

The "shock and awe" bombing of Iraq soon followed.

In May 2003, Bush made his infamous "Mission Accomplished" speech from the carrier Abraham Lincoln.

In reality, the war was just beginning, as the Iraqis launched a guerilla campaign to retake their country from the Rockefeller Empire. Baptist Jay Rockefeller never reminded President Bush of this Scripture:

So the the king of Israel answered and said, "Tell him, let not him that girdeth on his armor boast himself as he that putteth it off" ( I Kings 20:11).

The war turned into a bloody quagmire with thousands of U.S. casualties and over 1, 500,000 Iraqis killed.

ED's Improvised Explosive Devices were used with deadly effect by the Iraqis.

Official U.S. casualties were 4,500, but the real count was far, far higher. Iraqi casualties were over 1,500,000.

Additionally, the war was bankrupting the United States.

By 2008, Hillary's hopes of becoming President were very, very remote because of the disastrous outcome of the Iraqi war . . . and the parlous state of the economy. Too many people knew that she was responsible for 9/11 . . . and the deadly war . . . so the Democratic Party ignored her.

Too many people knew that Hillary was responsible for the Iraq War, so she was not even considered for the position of Vice President.

Barack Obama and Joseph "Joe" Biden were chosen instead.

Both men were on the same ballot even though the Constitution calls for separate votes for President and Vice President.

Both men ran on the same ballot so nobody had a choice between the 2 men. It was definitely not one man one vote even though the U.S. Constitution calls for separate votes for President and Vice President:

The PERSON (singular) having the greatest Number of votes for President, shall be the President. The PERSON (singular) having the greatest number of votes as Vice-President, shall be the Vice-President. (Twelfth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution).

The Amendment calling for separate votes for President and Vice President was ratified on September 25, 1804. It's hard to get a husband and wife to agree on anything so how can you have 2 completely opposite individuals on the same ballot....Most lawyers in the U.S. do not know that the Constitution calls for separate votes for President and Vice President.
The Founding Fathers never dreamed that a SHE would replace a HE as President!!

The Founding Fathers never imagined the day would come when a SHE would be President of the new nation:

The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America. He shall hold his Office during the Term of four Years, and, together with the Vice President, chosen for the same Term, be elected, as follows. (U.S. Constitution, Article II).

The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States; HE may require the Opinion, in writing, of the principal Officer in each of the executive Departments, upon any Subject relating to the Duties of their respective Offices, and HE shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment. (U.S. Constitution, Article II).

Even in their worst nightmares the Founding Fathers never dreamed that a SHE-WOLF would usurp the august position of President of the United States of Israel.

Israel was reborn on July 4, 1776, in Philadelphia.

About 10 years later the Constitution was signed in the same city of Philadelphia.

The Founding Fathers never dreamed that a SHE would replace a HE as President of the United States of Israel.

However, Daniel the Prophet predicted that dire situation over 2,500 years ago.

Daniel predicted today's perilous situation perfectly as nothing on the flat earth is hid from the all-seeing eyes of the Almighty:

And he (Antichrist) shall plant the tabernacles of his palace between the seas in the glorious holy mountain; yet he shall come to his end, and none shall help him (Daniel 11: 45).

At the very beginning of history, about 6,000 years ago, JEHOVAH promised a redeemer who would crush Satan's head:

And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; HE shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise HISheel (Genesis 3:15).

The corrupt Latin Vulgate Version changed the word HE to SHE:

I will put enmities between thee and the woman, and thy seed and her seed: SHE shall crush thy head, and thou shalt lie in wait for HER heel (Genesis 3:15, Douay-Rheims Version).

The Exodus is a marvelous type of Armageddon and the end of the world. When the Egyptians were pursuing the children of Israel at the Red Sea, JEHOVAH sent his MECHANIC-ANGELS to pull off the wheels of their chariots–in order to slow them down:

And it came to pass, that in the morning watch that JEHOVAH looked unto the host of the Egyptians through the pillar of fire and of the cloud, and troubled the host of the Egyptians, and took off their chariot wheels, that they drove them heavily: so that the Egyptians said, "let us flee from the face of Israel; for JEHOVAH fighteth for them against the Egyptians" (Exodus:14:24-25).

In these last days . . . we cannot stop . . . but only slow down . . . the Rockefeller juggernaut . . . so all true U.S. of Israel Christians should become Barbara Olsens or MECHANICS for CHRIST!!

JohnR7 #fundie christianforums.com

Because the Bible can not be "proven or disproven", then evolutionists have to create strawman arguements and try to falsify their own strawman. Their favorite is to make up their own YEC theory and then they try to falsify their strawmen version of the theory. I see them do this over and over on this forum like a broken record.

*Honest Blunt Opinioner* #fundie answers.yahoo.com

Athiests i dont understand how you can believe that we were just an accident.?
the big bang for example. it had to have had a source. how does angry just poof out of nowhere like that? what about the all the creatures on this planet? did they just come from one type of....whatever it is you guys say, what a cell/fungus/ and then split out and made a bird, a male a female, fish, buffalo. why is the sun in the right place for us to get enough heat? yea some say gravity. how did this accidental cell know that repoduction would be needed? guys a creator put us here. its not that hard to figure out!!!!!!!!

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The flat earth movement is run by the FBI, a co-intel program, "cognitive infiltration of paranoid libertarians" instructed to mock 9/11 truthers and anarchists, to attempt to demonstrate how insane the views of the extremists are. Thus when a meme comes out saying that those who investigate 9/11 come away convinced that the government is lying--then the government agents and their contractors put out flat earth memes saying the same thing about the flat earth. One way to combat this sort of evil unethical behavior is simply block anyone who mentions flat earth as a seriously held belief.

N19864 & HeForeverBleeds #transphobia reddit.com

Re: Suicidal MtF trans whom his liberal mother diagnosed him with gender dysphoria when he was a child. He is now suicidal as an adult female and realises his mother, parents and Professionals are the cause of this. He wants a normal life as a male, but that was stolen from him. This is a fathers issue.

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i feel like i was robbed of life and that people who did this to me should be in jail. it scares me reading how they are teaching these things to preschoolers, telling them it's normal and how parents can make such drastic decisions for kids who have no idea what's going on as it was in my case. even if you are older there is still a high chance you have no idea what you're getting yourself into. too many people make decisions based on their feelings.

nobody should go through this.

Another Commenter

There is a lot more to this but I do not want to have a direct link to the post. People who regret transitioning sometimes get a lot of hate from the movement. This poor soul was brainwashed since he was a child by his mother, and like every child, he sought his parents approval. He has tried suicide but failed but still sees it as the only way to stop the pain. He is still set on ending his life.

Transgender youth have the highest rate of attempted suicide. Keep this movement away from children. It's child abuse.

Parental forcing, shaming, conditioning young children with hormone therapy, etc. is serious sexual abuse. Only totally irresponsible, reckless people those without any moral and humane compass will do that, should be put in jail or mental asylum.

They have the backing of the state and judicial system. The whole thing is evil. Young children do not have any idea what gender is, they just want to be accepted and will conform to whatever the parent decides. That's their nature. They are full of trust.

Children are not gender dysphoric. They will be shaped however the parents wants them to be.

If a child is told all the time from a young age that he was born in the wrong body


You're fucking with me, right? Who the hell tells a child that kind of stuff? I thought the worst thing that can happen to kids is get low grades, or being the uncool kid and/ or getting bullied by classmates or getting bruised during the PE classes. This gender-fuckery is ridiculous!

Where have you been? What country are you from? An Eastern European Country?

Boy toddler in Spain "identifies" as a girl

Infamous Canadian Desmond is Amazing Abused

Article about Photo 10 year old did with a Naked Drag Queen (Canada)


This has been going on for over a decade I think, but it has exploded in the last few years. For young kids its mainly (Liberal/lesbian) Mothers that seem to be pushing this agenda. You know, "Look at me, I have a special baby". For teens, its the internet, peers and "professional" (trend) diagnosis.

My sister's ex girlfriend tried to do this to her boys. Absolutely sick people

Are they fine? I hope the children are no longer with the "mother".

Seriously this is pure evil. The doctors, therapist and anyone involved in this is evil.

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I have some past experience with dysphoria (along with a lot of other psychological issues due to previous abuse), but it is something that can be ameliorated. It's sad for me to see other children with parents who feed it instead of working to treat it

Walt Heyer, a detransitioned transwoman, described it as people "manufacturing transgender children". He felt gender dysphoria partly due to childhood abuse, partly due to his grandmother praising and affirming him when he presented as a girl, and ignoring him when he presented as a boy

That's a dangerous and growingly common thing these days, where parents of "transkids" will praise and give the child attention, only so long he's in this role. Not to mention that affirming and social transitioning in itself (even before hormones and surgery) can become a self-fulfilling prophecy for impressionable children

When a young child (and it's not uncommon for transchildren to be as young as 5 and 6 when mothers begin social transition; look at the YouTube channel called "them") says he feels like a girl or feels unhappy in his body, instead of examining any potential causes for the dysphoria or unhappiness, they'll immediately jump to telling him "yes, you're fundamentally flawed, you'll only be happy when you change your identity"

It's like affirming that an anorexic is fat

Can you please wait until the little fucker is 18 before you give him a gender change?

Likely by that time, he wouldn't have wanted to. The majority of dysphoric children don't become dysphoric adults. But "gender affirmation" and social transitioning can become a self-fulfilling prophecy to impressionable children

If a child is told all the time from a young age that he was born in the wrong body, that he'll only be happy as a girl, etc. a lot of times he'll start to internalize this message. That's why it doesn't seem that even social transitioning or hormones should be the first response for young children who don't even know themselves yet

Desperado #fundie chron.com

I believe more poeple have been killed in the name of atheism any other religion. Stalin murdered millions to create a godless Soviet Union, Mao murdered millions in communist China, in the name of atheism. If the athiests believe God is just a myth, why do they expend so energy trying to eliminate Him from society. I believe Santa and the Easter Bunny are myths, but I don't demand removal of all references to them. It seems to me you are not just athiests, you are anti-theists. There is a difference.

Anonymous Coward #conspiracy godlikeproductions.com

Who's paying PR firms to shill Sandy Hook TWO YEARS & counting?

Really? Like, who would pay for TWO SOLID YEARS to shill Sandy Hook?

That's a pretty long term interest, wouldn't you say? And some pretty deep pockets?

I seriously, seriously doubt they thought they'd have to be paying people in 2015 to sit at those consoles, typing away on GLP. But--they're paying. No one shills for free.

I believe there are truly dedicated individual citizens who remain on this topic because it's important to them. No doubt. We know Sandy Hook is a lie one way or another and we're still here because we care. I really don't think that, on the other side, there are passionate supporters of the official story who have made it their personal goal to defend it, but I guess I'll allow for a small possibility. Why would they need to, though? The official story has won, hands down. What is there to be passionate about? The shills posing as "official-story citizens" tried to create this whole "we will oppose the evil truthers!!" astroturfing meme but obviously that's a sham and no one bought it.

But I feel very, very strongly that Robert Riversong, for example, is an example of someone paid to respond to every Sandy Hook post in his work sphere (and you can tell he is more than fed up with it). There is no question in my mind that he is paid to do this, none. So he's an example of someone that I know in my gut is paid by someone for his efforts.

Paid by WHOM?

Who would give a flying you-know-what two years later?? The public has already bought the official story, the school is torn down, Sedensky et al have gotten away with making a mockery of the justice system, and an apathetic, unhtinking public doesn't give a damn. it's over. So who in God's name feels they need to continue to "guide public opinion" on this topic??

Why on earth do they care what some subsection of the public thinks anyway?

Is there some formula or statistic that shows that if a topic is under discussion by citizens--citizens who for the most part are spinning their wheels in frustration but not getting anywhere legally--that under these conditions, someone who WILL do something about it is statistically likely to read about and do something?

Are there going to be jury trials? Do they think civil suit judges are going to be affected by GLP discussions??

Are they afraid we might slowly work out what really happened, and that the logic of it will be so self-evident that a pesky journalist will actually take notice?

At any rate, someone IS paying someone to shill Sandy Hook. What's kind of chilling to me is that the longer this is true, the more powerful and wealthy the entity paying for the shilling must be.

Who benefits the most from trying to convince people no one died?

I really want to believe that Sandy Hook is just a case of local coverup that snowballed, and I still do think that's the most likely scenario. But what's bothering me lately is that there is at least one scary option on the list of reasons for shilling Sandy Hook two years and counting, and that is if it really was a false flag.

"It was a hoax" was really just a gateway drug to "no one died," and that would benefit anyone conceived of and executed a false flag 12/14/2012. Maybe at the topmost level, or maybe someone like a Bloomberg or worse who decided it was worth slaughtering people to get gun control. If you don't believe me, watch how the false flag threads morphed into the no one died threads. Who benefits? Someone who actually pulled a false flag, that's who.

But it's a little murky, because "no one died" works nicely as away to reduce interest and concern and outrage--and I guess in the end that would benefit any coverup of a crime where people died.

So whether it's Washington trying to cover up a false flag, or an acutely embarrassing foreign terrorist attack, or a privately-conceived "for the greater good" slaughter, or Governor Malloy freaking out about state liability (but why continue to shill now?), or even just Newtown lawyers--the "no one died" meme benefits them all. And, finally, it also befits the Big Ammo/NRA/Vision for a Conservative America/whatever groups.

Because "no one died" means anyone on the above lists is "bad, but not that bad."

So we're left with the aggravating question: Who would pay PR firms good money to still be shilling Sandy Hook for over two years?? Who pays Robert Riversong to come out of hiding every time I say "the ambulances couldn't get in?"

Cui bono? Is it so hard to figure out because there are actually multiple PR firms shilling for multiple reasons?

Somebody somewhere is paying for this, and certainly out of all those people sitting at consoles, one of them must be willing to talk. Maybe we're going at this the wrong way--instead of chasing down the big guys, we need to find the little guys and ask them who the hell is paying them and why. Certainly at least one American has got to be saying to him/herself by now, "What the hell am I doing this for?"

Dan Roodt #racist amren.com

South Africa Wins Rugby World Cup. Why Does it Give Me No Joy?

In a Rugby World Cup final in Japan, for which most pundits predicted an easy win for England, the South African rugby team won by 32-12 and became world champions for the third time. All over the country, in bars and on the streets, there were celebratory shouts and honking cars with green Springbok team flags flying from their windows.

I do not follow rugby, nor watch so-called Super Rugby on the pay-TV channels. Our bankrupt public TV corporation, the SABC, can no longer afford the rights to broadcast rugby. However, I discovered that I could stream the match in French on my computer. Boris Johnson and I therefore had something in common: We both seem to have followed it live in our respective studies.

If it had been any other opponent, such as New Zealand or Australia, I probably would not have bothered, but losing against England would have been especially bitter. England is the source of our misfortune, a country whose politicians and diplomats have largely destroyed Western civilization in this part of the world. Not only did the English media, rock stars, and even the royal family enthusiastically support the Afro-Marxist terrorist movement known as the ANC, but their Queen also bestowed a knighthood on Robert Mugabe, the dictator to our north. The now deceased Zimbabwean could be called the king of all anti-white blacks. Admittedly, the British did quietly retract the knighthood once the worst of Mugabe’s excesses became known, but still. How dare they? — as Greta Thunberg would say.

Prince Harry of Sussex, the first British royal to marry someone we in South Africa would call “Coloured,” visited the Springbok rugby team in the changing rooms at Yokohama International Stadium after their brilliant victory. Amazingly — or perhaps not — his brief address to the players was not about rugby at all.

“Congratulations,” the red-haired Prince said. “I generally think that rugby has the ability to unite everyone around the world. And I could not think of a nation who needs it more than you guys right now.” And raising a bottle of Heineken given to him by one of the Afrikaner players: “So on that, well done.” He then posed next to the lock (a player in the second row of the scrum) Eben Etzebeth, apparently saying, “F*ck, you’re tall.”
And that’s where rugby, politics, and race collide. For over a century, the Springboks have been very successful against teams from much larger Western countries because of our physical advantages. The torturous evolution we have gone through on the African savanna, being constantly attacked by wild animals, poisonous snakes, and above all, black tribes for whom killing sometimes seems like their form of rugby, seems to have bestowed gifts on us, one of which is size. We are a race of giants. At least you can get that impression from meeting rugby players, especially the tall locks who have to jump for the ball during line-outs.

During the semi-final game against Wales, the two French commentators were clearly biased against the Springboks, hoping the lumbering Welsh team with their heavy pack of forwards grinding toward the goal line would win. However, as it became obvious that the Springboks would carry the day, the two Frenchmen ascribed it to their niveau d’aggressivité (level of aggressiveness).

The Left in South Africa, especially the English Left, has long decried Afrikaner dominance in rugby, which they call a sport for “racist, white males.” Our universities and other leftists have already provided us with endless denunciations of the Afrikaner passion for rugby and its alleged celebration of whiteness, toxic masculinity, racism, and Afrikaner fascism. What the 1936 Olympic Games were to Nazism, we are told, rugby has always been to the Afrikaner.

Since we have been excluded from politics, the military, the police, academia, big business, and soon the church, the game of the egg-shaped ball is perhaps the last thing we are allowed to do. Or not. The relentless demands of affirmative action have seen to it that even rugby is no longer an all-white, all-Afrikaner game. Ever since the days of anti-apartheid protests and sports boycotts, the agile little gazelle that gives the Springboks their team name has been unpopular. Successive sports ministers of the ANC regime have tried to suppress the name, a quintessentially Afrikaans word that does not have an English translation.

South Africa is the only country in the world where there are racial quotas in sport — against whites. Such quotas are essentially aimed at rugby, as well as netball — a sport like basketball but for women — in which Afrikaner women excel. Various complicated rules have accumulated over the years of ANC rule or — more correctly — social engineering. At any given moment, a certain number of “players of colour” have to be on the field. Otherwise, teams are fined, coaches are fired, or sponsors withhold funds.

During the World Cup in Japan, for the first time ever, the Springbok captain was a black player. Siya Kolisi happens be married to a blonde wife with whom he has two children. Most of the media coverage focused on him, as a kind of “miracle man,” and not on the white players.

Inside South Africa, the black players — who are normally less than half of the team — get all the credit and are lauded as “rugby geniuses.” Outside the country, there are sometimes more objective views. One British columnist, Stuart Barnes, was candid enough to write in the London Times before the final game that Captain Kolisi would serve the team best by sitting on the bench:

"Strip the politics and emotion out of the equation and the rugby case for benching Kolisi is powerful. Pieter-Steph du Toit [a white player] has been far more influential in his lineout and counter-rucking than his fellow flanker. He has to start."

Indeed, shortly after the final game, the lamentably white Mr. du Toit was named World Rugby Player of the Year, and the equally white Afrikaner Rassie Erasmus was crowned World Rugby Coach of the Year.

Many commentators, both sports and political, compared this year’s victory and the “sense of unity” it supposedly engendered to the one in 1995 when we beat New Zealand’s All Blacks in the World Cup final in Johannesburg – with one black player on the team. Nelson Mandela ingratiated himself with whites, especially Afrikaners, by donning a number-6 Springbok shirt like the one worn by captain Francois Pienaar, and appearing at the stadium in front of the crowd and the cameras.

During their three decades as an international terrorist group, headquartered in London and supported financially by both the Soviet Union and Sweden, the ANC had always boycotted rugby. The very image of the Springbok was “racist,” and the ANC regime is still trying to have it removed or even banned, like our old South African flag and anthem.

At the time, Mandela’s gesture was called “reconciliation,” but in South Africa, that word means establishing black domination. Not long afterward, Mandela clashed with the rugby administration over affirmative action and racial quotas.

Nearly 30 years later, some are still unsatisfied. On the eve of the final game in Japan, liberal journalist Pieter du Toit wrote:

"Because of its place in history and the architecture of society – a team once rooted in chauvinistic nationalism and exclusion, now diverse, humble and welcoming – the Boks will always be controversial. Whilst many live and breathe the green-and-gold, there are still many for whom it remains symbolic of subjugation and segregation."

Nobody knows the inner feelings of blacks better than liberal white journalists, but in the wake of the Springbok triumph in Japan, “reconciliation,” “unity between the races,” and the slogan “stronger together” are being bandied about by both the media and politicians. Of course, despite the euphoria, we are not together.

In the run-up to the World Cup, the above-mentioned giant, Eben Etzebeth, was accused of assaulting a Coloured man in a bar and calling him the “H-word.” That was “hotnot” in Afrikaans, a shortened form of “Hottentot,” which was the original European word for the primitive hunter-gatherer tribes on the Cape coast, whom we now must call Khoikhoi. “Hottentot” is thought to have originated from the German hotteren-totteren or “stutter,” referring to the click-sound language of the tribes.

The list of taboo words in South Africa grows all the time. In 1996, shortly after the ANC came to power, a Springbok coach, André Markgraaff, was forced to resign after calling one of the new black sports administrators a “kaffir.” South Africa, like the USA, represents a semantic minefield.

As soon as Eben Etzebeth steps off the plane from Japan, he will face the wrath of the South African Human Rights Commission, which has little to do with human rights but more with race-baiting and the persecution of whites who stray from the code of subservience. The head of legal services at the Human Rights Commission has promised that Mr. Etzebeth will be charged with attempted murder.

Rugby, like the Afrikaans language or the very presence of the white minority in South Africa, is a relic of the hated past, but that past, despite all the propaganda efforts to the contrary, is looking increasingly like a lost golden age. It was a time when South Africa was not only winning on the rugby field but also in education, health, construction, industrialization, honest government, municipal services, electricity generation, water treatment, administration, etc. Needless to say, the ANC regime is failing in all these areas and many others. We have blackouts or so-called “load shedding,” and many rural towns do not have potable water.

Even Prince Harry’s “unity” comments echo an awareness of South Africa’s increasing status as a failed state. Rugby is therefore the lone swallow that does not a summer make. The team’s meticulous Afrikaner coach, Rassie Erasmus, who has brought strategy and daring to their game, is a man of yesterday, an anachronism from a time before black sports ministers and the so-called Human Rights Commission.

It gave me a few moments of satisfaction that we had, once more, beaten our arch-rival England, but that soon gave way to a sense of tragedy. Our players, from the gargantuan Eben Etzebeth to the diminutive scrumhalf Faf de Klerk, are gladiators in green-and-gold. Like most gladiators, they are doomed to die in the arena. Instead of their undoubted talent and prowess counting toward the esteem of our Afrikaner nation, they are glorifying the ANC’s zombie nation, as well as the giant corporations whose brands they bear and who are contributing to the demise of whites.

Under apartheid, we had military, economic, energy and financial boycotts against us. In Amsterdam, they threw Afrikaans books in the canal next to South Africa House; elsewhere they spat on our diplomats. But the worst, it seems, was the sports boycott. In a sunny country dedicated to outdoor pursuits, it prevented us from showing off our athletes and our rugby players on the international stage.

Patti Waldmeir, a correspondent for the Financial Times in South Africa during the early ’90s, wrote in her book, Anatomy of a Miracle, that “the Afrikaners swapped apartheid for rugby, and thought they had made a good deal.”

Hence the Faustian Pact that our hapless leaders made with the ANC’s communist politicians: If only we handed them our country, we could play rugby against the All Blacks again — the same New Zealanders who held up placards saying, “Boks go home,” and who spread broken glass on the field in their country where we were supposed to practice.

Like every Faustian Pact, this one was bound to go bad. We have already paid a staggering price, with trillions of rand looted from the state and state-owned companies by corrupt ANC politicians and their cronies. Our infrastructure has been gutted, our environment polluted, our language and culture suppressed.

Rugby is not worth it. Seeing two Afrikaans high-school teams playing each other should satisfy our need for rugby. Why play against other nations from the British imperial system who hate us? It might help if we could have our own team, free of racial quotas and affirmative action. It would be an Afrikaner team, just as there are three national teams in the United Kingdom: Scotland, Wales, and England.

We would fly our orange, white and blue flag, the one which has been officially declared “hate speech” by a South African court. We would play our national anthem, “Die Stem,” at international matches.

This is all unthinkable. Probably the Springbok will be replaced by some ANC symbol soon, just as our street names have been changed. Then the so-called “transformation” of the team will be complete. A few Afrikaner gladiators will still be allowed to play.

Our triumph over England in Japan is a Pyrrhic victory. We have won a game but we have lost a nation, our nation, the real one, not the meretricious, multicultural hodgepodge that the media and the beer advertisements with their gleeful images of blacks and whites “happy together” promote.

I have nothing to celebrate.

Siddhartha Chaibub, Olavo de Carvalho and Ernesto Araújo #crackpot #dunning-kruger theguardian.com

Siddhartha Chaibub’s suspicions that the Earth wasn’t really round were first aroused when he stumbled across a YouTube video while living in Brazil’s capital, Brasília.

“I was always very sceptical about things,” said the 35-year-old freelance designer, who soon dived deep into the flat Earth universe: reading, watching videos and joining a dedicated WhatsApp group.

By the end of 2015, he was convinced. “The model that is imposed on us – that the Earth is spherical – is full of contradictions,” he said.

Today, his YouTube channel Professor Terra Plana (Flat Earth Professor) – featuring videos such as “25 examples that prove Nasa is a fraud” and “gravity doesn’t exist” – has nearly 29,000 subscribers.

Like Britain and the United States, Brazil is seeing a revival of flat Earth theory: 7% of the population – 11 million Brazilians – believe that the Earth is flat, according to the polling firm Datafolha. The poll noted believers were more likely to be religious or poorly educated.

Last week, Chaibub and three of his flat Earth fellows got their biggest break yet when they appeared on the country’s most-watched talkshow, The Night, to promote Brazil’s first ever flat Earth convention this Saturday in São Paulo.

The location of the event will only be disclosed on the day, organizers say, for security reasons. “There is a lot of prejudice,” said Chaibub

[...]

Accusations of links to the flat Earth movement have dogged Bolsonaro’s government.

In January, the science minister, Marcos Pontes – South America’s first astronaut – said that he felt a “knot in the stomach” when he heard suggestions that the Earth is flat.

But just a few months later, Olavo de Carvalho – a former astrologer who is considered the intellectual guru of Bolsonaro and his inner circle – prompted outrage and ridicule when he tweeted: “I didn’t study the subject of the flat Earth. I just watched a few videos of experiments that show that aquatic surfaces are flat – and so far I haven’t found anything to refute them.”

Carvalho – who has also claimed Pepsi was sweetened with aborted foetuses and that oral sex can cause cancer – dined with Bolsonaro and Steve Bannon in Washington during the Brazilian president’s state visit to the US in March.

When questioned about flat Earthism, the foreign minister, Ernesto Araújo – an Olavo disciple who believes climate change is a Marxist plot – also seemed sympathetic to the movement, saying: “For me, the Earth is round. But it’s important to have this spirit of questioning,”

Ken Ham #fundie blogs.answersingenesis.org

Now, not only does God’s Word explain the world as it is today, but observational science confirms it. Also, the Bible makes it clear that if we search after truth and really want to know God, He will reveal himself to us. And He will make clear the free gift of salvation that He offers to us.

"My son, if you receive my words, And treasure my commands within you, So that you incline your ear to wisdom, And apply your heart to understanding; Yes, if you cry out for discernment, And> lift up your voice for understanding, If you seek her as silver, And search for her as for hidden treasures; Then you will understand the fear of the LORD, And find the knowledge of God. For the LORD gives wisdom; From His mouth come knowledge and understanding" (Proverbs 2:1–6)

"But without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him." (Hebrews 11:6)

Dawkins Is Against Indoctrination . . . Really?

Recently atheist Richard Dawkins stated, “There is a balancing act and you have to balance the rights of parents and the rights of children and I think the balance has swung too far towards parents.” Of course, what Dawkins means by this is that parents have been given too much of a right to teach their children their own religion. He goes on to say, “Children do need to be protected so that they can have a proper education and not be indoctrinated in whatever religion their parents happen to have been brought up in.” So children need to be “protected” from religion by having a “proper education” so they won’t be “indoctrinated.” But Dawkins believes that children should be taught evolutionary naturalism as fact. He wants his religion of naturalism imposed on them. So children shouldn’t be taught religion by their parents—they should be taught the religion of atheism by their teachers! All Dawkins is advocating is replacing one religion with another religion. You can’t raise or educate children “neutrally.” There is no neutrality! When you take away supposed “religion” (which usually means Christianity when Dawkins uses that word), then all you have done is replaced it with another religion—the religion secular humanism.

In an article for Time magazine, Dawkins writes, “Religious labels [on children] . . . at very least . . . negates the ideal, held dear by all decent educationists, that children should be taught to think for themselves.” So Dawkins thinks that children should be taught to think for themselves? Should children be allowed to think for themselves when crossing a road, or when jumping into a swimming pool, or when putting their hand on a hot plate on the stove? Should children be potty trained or just allowed to think for themselves?

Does Dawkins mean that children should be taught the major problems with evolution? Does this mean that children should be shown the evidence that supports the Bible’s history? Does this mean that children should learn the difference between historical and observational science? Dawkins definitely wouldn’t think so! By writing that “children should be taught to think for themselves,” what he really means is that children should be exclusively taught a religion of atheistic, evolutionary naturalism—and no other options. This is not education or teaching kids to think through issues for themselves—it’s indoctrination, but indoctrination in a false religion! So Dawkins wants to do the very thing that he says parents shouldn’t do!

Dawkins also writes, “Indoctrinating your opinions into the vulnerable minds of your children is bad enough.” So Dawkins thinks that indoctrinating children is wrong. Yet he wants to do that very thing! He just wants to make sure that children are only taught his religion! Dawkins is being utterly inconsistent.

Wagiecel #transphobia incels.co

[Discussion] Why Trannies need to attack us

Eunuchs were men who had their balls cut off to serve the King.

They're not common in Europe where Kings usually had one wife. However they were common in big empires (China, Middle East, Ottomans, India etc) where the king had a harem of concubines to fuck so they could bear as many sons as possible. Gotta make sure succession goes smoothly you know.

The kings being much less retarded than now knew that females cannot be trusted no matter what they say. Therefore they make only eunuchs be able to serve in the harem, courts etc so there's no chance the kings will get cucked by them.

Another thing about eunuchs is nobody likes them. They can't go anywhere else outside the palace area coz they are freaks with no balls. In the palace, everyone sees them as sleazy opportunists who were only there coz they were willing to castrate themselves. Basically their fate lies with the King and thus have reason to be loyal to him

Its funny coz a lot of people think the practice of creating and using eunchs was barbaric. Yet look at today! We have people willingly cutting their balls off for no reason! Unlike before we don't use eunuchs anymore so these guys are castrating themselves with no purpose! At least eunuchs had a purpose and if you were really a scheming asshole, you could become almost as powerful as the king since you knew all the secrets of the empire. Trannies however will never get that.

Guess its time for Trannies to start plotting to bring back Monarchy (with harems of course) huh?

No wonder trannies spend so much times attacking Incels. They got to have someone else to hate on (as well as an actual purpose) otherwise just like the past, they'll be ones hated on the most. Except now with no purpose.

vexic929 #fundie comments.deviantart.com

[ You were bullied for being straight? Yeah, that's totally the same thing. >: Just like LGBT teens that are bullied and ostracized, you had no one to turn to in this society that is so against heterosexuals. You must have felt so isolated in an overwhelming homosexual culture that routinely teaches the younger generations to hate straight people for being born the way they are.

Okay seriously no, LGBT teen suicide is a /very serious/ problem that is steadily getting worse. Even if it focused on one group that is being bullied (and is being bullied /hard/), you don't support an end to the bullying of that group? Do you also get pissy when Black History month rolls around? Do you not support it? I mean, IT DOESN'T INCLUDE LATINOS. They're persecuted too. If we're going to follow your logic that EVERY awareness program must include EVERYONE, we should just make it 'Non white history month'. Boycott black history month, it's totes biased. >:< ]


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was making a point in stating that. It irritates the crap out of me that this day was made for one group of people about a problem that affects EVERYONE. Everyone is bullied at some point in there life for some reason, it doesn't just affect LGBT. No, I don't get mad when Black History month comes around; why? Because it's about something that affected that specific group of people--the abolishment of slavery and the celebration of the accomplishments of people of that ethnicity.

[ I think it has a lot more to do with your general dislike of homosexuality than any good reasonI. :shrug: Would you be opposed to a 'Spirit Day' dedicated to kids committing suicide over racial bullying? What about 'Adopt a Shelter Dog' day? That doesn't include cats, so are you still pissed when all those sweet dogs get adopted? What about Breast Cancer awareness month? There's more than one type of cancer that affects patients. How about anxiety awareness week? There's more than one mental illness.

No one ever said it *just* effects LGBT. But the day was made in response to a string of suicides by LGBT teenagers- it's to honor them and prevent it from happening again. LGBT bullying is a /big fucking deal/ because the children affected by it live in a homophobic society and often, homophobic households. Unlike a straight kid or even a child of a minority race, they usually don't have a support system to turn to because of that; they can't open up to their families because they have to hide who they are. Having a voice- a day- raises a lot of awareness. That is a /good thing/. And there are plenty of anti-bullying programs that cover EVERY aspect of bullying; is it really so bad to have one dedicated to a specific type that happens to be very bad at the moment?

Basically, it's childish to be angry over what is essentially a good thing. Everyone knows bullying is bad, but there are plenty of people that don't realize how much more devastating it can be for LGBT teens due to the inherit isolation that typically comes with their status. This event /helps/ these kids. And it's ridiculously /heartless/ ]

You're willing to listen and are only looking for an argument (as made obvious by your comments on my other deviations). You won't find one here and responding would simply be a waste of my time, have a nice day.

[ Seriously, nice cop out. It seems to me that YOU are the one unwilling to listen and only interested in further entrenching yourself in your narrow-minded views. Are you so against an honest discourse? *Queerly was being nothing but polite and very articulate in outlining her thoughtful, well-reasoned responses.

Spirit week DOES bring awareness to all types of bullying- how could a week dedicated to bringing awareness not? It is simply targeted at awareness for LGBT youthes, a group which uniquely has less support than most others and thus is greatly in need of awareness. I'm sorry, but being bullied/made to feel guilty about being a heterosexual is nowhere NEAR the same thing, unless said heterosexual is immersed in a largely hostile HOMOsexual community. Were you? Did you have no hetero friends or family members to turn to? Were you afraid of even admitting it? Unless I'm horribly mistaken, of course not. ]

Considering you don't know the situation I can forgive you for calling it a "cop-out". On the contrary, she was anything but nice in her comments on my journal and stamps and was only aiming to make me angry and start an argument.

Furthermore, as I have stated numerous times, I don't think any one group should have a day for themselves when it affects everyone. And did you do any research on this subject? For one thing; it's not a week, it's a day. For another, until this year (and on deviantART only this year for that matter) I didn't see any awareness whatsoever on the day for anyone else who was bullied or any other type of bullying--hardly anyone at all acknowledged that (except for those of us who were irritated about it). And being bullied for another reason than being homosexual isn't the same thing? Since when? It hurts just the same and people are scared to turn to other people for help just the same. There's no difference other than the reason behind it. And to keep people from killing themselves? That's what TWLOHA is for (link provided in case you don't know what that is), which I wholeheartedly support because it focuses on how to solve the problem. It's not about one group saying "oh poor us, we're dealing with a problem everyone else deals with but we're more important!" which is pretty much exactly what Spirit Day is.

[ Well, I suppose you're correct that I haven't seen everything she has written to you, so I'll concede that, but I still think that it is a major cop-out to not respond to her last paragraph up there- I'd be very interested in your response to the points she raised which, as far as I'm concerned, are spot on and I couldn't have put it better.

Oh yes it's a day not a week, that does invalidate my stance. Was I also wrong on what it's about? Oh, no. So never mind it invalidates nothing. I'll admit I was reading quickly as I was a bit upset upon finding an individual who opposes something that I view as being very good and beneficial.

Plenty of groups have days/weeks/whatever devoted just to them- so, as *Queerly asked, do you oppose all of them as well? Or do you just oppose this because you also oppose what you see as a sinful "choice"? And I support your religious choices, it's perfectly fine for you to believe what you do, I'm certainly not attacking that, even if I disagree with it. But it shouldn't be affecting your opinion on how to treat LGBTs, on supporting a movement that is benefical for them, gives them help and awareness that they desperately need. Like I said, everyone knows bullying is bad. IT HAS AWARENESS. Not everyone knows however what is happening to LGBT youthes, and worse, in some of the more hostile areas, it is IGNORED.

Bullying of LGBT is different. How man times do I have to say this? It doesn't "hurt the same"- perhaps it might appear that way to you, if you are lucky enough to live in an area where LGBTs aren't living in constant fear- but let me tell you, that is not the norm. What makes bullying of LGBTS so different is that they are being bullied in a society where they cannot just turn to the adults for help- a society at large that is hostile and often teaches others to hate them. Which is what makes it different from, say, racial bullying, where those children at least have family to turn to and no one says 'you shouldn't have chosen to be black, put some on dye your skin!'

You know what I did when I was bullied? I talked to my mom, my friends, once even the teacher and guidance counseler.

Do you know what *Queerly did when she was bullied? Withdraw in to herself, far too afraid for her safety in her conservative southern community to go to the teacher, and too sick at heart to be able to admit her true issues to her parents out of fear of rejection/hurting them/making them question their beliefs.

To sum it up, I would like to ask what *Queerly asked before she was blocked:
Would you be opposed to a 'Spirit Day' dedicated to kids committing suicide over racial bullying? What about 'Adopt a Shelter Dog' day? That doesn't include cats, so are you still pissed when all those sweet dogs get adopted? What about Breast Cancer awareness month? There's more than one type of cancer that affects patients. How about anxiety awareness week? There's more than one mental illness.

Like I said, groups getting needed awareness isn't a new thing.

I'm not trying to upset you or argue with you for no reason, and you are certainly entitled to your beliefs. However, I am as well and I will try and implore you to stop fighting something that is a good thing. While I myself have seen plenty of LGBT awareness movements, if you yourself have not, then that proves that they need the day, or week, or whatever it is that they're given in whatever way, more than ever.

There are lots of issues in the world. No day or week or movement could cover them all. In this case, this day covers LGBT bullying. I ask again, what the heck is so bad with that?? ]

And this is why I don't think you or Queerly were even listening, I have stated my reasons very clearly NUMEROUS times, including in my responses to both you and her and you continue to ignore them. Since you won't listen to me when I straight out reply with my answers maybe you should try reading some of the other comments, the artist's comments, etcetera which all state what I have said a thousand times. I'm getting pretty sick of being asked the same questions over and over and then not even being listened to when I answer. And before replying I would like to ask you to please do your research--there is nothing, I repeat, NOTHING that sets LGBT bullying apart from other types of bullying other than media coverage and extensive whining. They all have different degrees of severity, the only difference is--like with most minorities--when they are targeted they have the media freaking out and jumping to conclusions.

Here are some interesting statistics: 1 in every 4 kids from elementary to high school is bullied; only 30% of those are bullied because of their sexual orientation. Over 50% of students who were bullied were bullied because of their physical appearance. Only 4% of bullying cases end with adult intervention, 11% of bullying cases end with peer intervention, and 85% of bullying cases have absolutely no intervention--regardless of the reasons behind the bullying.

And, as I stated before, the degree of severity varies with each case, there is nothing to show that an LGBT kid suffers more or less than any other kid who is bullied (unless, of course, you look at one of the extremely biased websites that completely ignores the statistics of a child who isn't LGBT being bullied--unfortunately there are many out there, the majority of which can't seem to even keep a standardized statistic). If you still insist that this day is needed might I recommend you also create a day for every other child who is bullied for whatever reason; go on, make a day for those who are bullied because they are overweight, skinny, tall, short, heterosexual, smart, stupid, non-athletic, mentally-disabled, physically-disabled, "nerdy", poor, rich, black, hispanic, white, asian, unpopular, has a speech impediment, has frizzy hair, has stick-straight hair, doesn't have a boyfriend/girlfriend, stands up for another child who is bullied...need I say more?

[ You truly don't believe that growing up in a society that is hostile towards you and in which you generally are too afraid to speak out doesn't differentiate LGBT bullying from, to use your list, "overweight, skinny, tall, short, heterosexual, smart, stupid, non-athletic, mentally-disabled, physically-disabled, "nerdy", poor, rich, black, hispanic, white, asian, unpopular, has a speech impediment, has frizzy hair, has stick-straight hair, doesn't have a boyfriend/girlfriend, stands up for another child who is bullied"?

If your answer is yes, then I suppose our conversation is at an end because you are correct, we are simply talking in circles. But if you believe that LGBT kids are just whining about their issues as exacerbated by the media... I'm sorry, but I would say that people like you are the reason awareness movements are needed.

Also if you're going to use statistics, please include source links. ]

If you haven't noticed, most people are the exact opposite of hostile towards them nowadays (kids don't necessarily count, children can be very cruel about everything). Such people are actually pretty much glorified (see LGBT celebrities and politicians) now. I've noticed more people being hostile towards me and several of my non-LGBT friends for having a different opinion on homosexuality than I have seen or heard of any sort of hostility towards my LGBT friends (not simply in the area I live in, I have many friends from other countries, states, and cities).

You misunderstand what I'm trying to say. I'm not saying that horrible stuff doesn't happen to LGBT kids and that they're only whining (although they [not all of them] tend to do a heck of a lot of it; as do most minorities), I'm simply pointing out that it doesn't ONLY happen to them so it doesn't make sense and is unfair to create a day just for them, regardless of how much awareness it raises.

There were mountains of sources most of which have been long since lost I'm afraid but a quick Google search of "LGBT bullying statistics" and just "bullying statistics" should bring up the vast majority of them.

Hanahi #fundie christianforums.com

arguing about sex with an athiest is near pointless for a couple reasons first they don't care about sinning because they don't believe in God so why would they care about seperating themselves from God second they are blind and dead they are ignoring God and do not see him therefore they do not have a clue what love is because God is love

Bodie Hodge #fundie answersingenesis.org

(Ken Ham's son-in-law responds to Mr. C)

Dear Mr. C,

Thank you for commenting about the Nye Ham debate. Please see my comments below.

This is one proof you lost the debate.

But Mr. Ham didn’t lose the debate (and the gospel was spread to millions of people). Here is the simple reason why: Mr. Nye never addressed the debate topic, so how could someone win the debate if they never addressed the topic?

The debate topic was the following: “Is Creation a Viable Model of Origins in Today’s Modern, Scientific Era?”

Mr. Nye immediately changed the topic to address something else: “Does Ken Ham’s creation model hold up? Is it viable?”

What few realize is that in doing so, Mr. Nye also misrepresented Mr. Ham’s position by claiming Mr. Ham’s model was that natural law changed at the Flood, that Mr. Ham’s model was opposed to science, that Noah’s Ark was like a zoo, that Noah’s Ark held at least 14,000 animals but was supposed to have millions of species, the Bible (specifically Genesis) was written by men only (no God), we oppose scientific predictions, and the list continues. The point is that this false model was a straw man that Mr. Nye set up. In other words, he changed what the creation model really was and attacked a false version of it in the debate, and so he never really addressed the debate topic. And this was the case throughout the debate.

you couldn’t answer nye on your feet,

A few things here. First, with the debate format and time limits, you can’t answer everything. Mr. Nye used the “skeptical method” by the way, which is to throw out numerous arguments, true or false, and hope to deceive people into thinking he won.

The reason for doing this is simple. Many watching the debate will notice that Mr. Ham didn’t answer a particular question, and so it is assumed then that he can’t answer the question, hence viewers may misperceive that someone loses the debate on that account. But it works both ways: neither debater can answer everything they were presented with even in typical debate, let alone when one uses the skeptical method.

Mr. Nye admitted to using this method after the debate. Mr. Nye says the following of a misrepresentation of biblical creationist and debater Dr. Duane Gish:

He was infamous for jumping from one topic to another, introducing one spurious or specious fact or line of reasoning after another. A scientist debating Gish often got bogged down in details and, by all accounts, came across looking like the loser. It quickly occurred to me that I could do the same thing. . . . I did my best to slam Ken Ham with a great many scientific and common sense arguments. I believed he wouldn’t have the time or the focus to address many of them.1

Second, not answering something is not the same as losing a debate. Jesus never answered certain things at his trial, and even though they had Him put to death on the Cross, Christ won (Acts 8:32).

Third, Mr. Nye failed to answer the most basic tenets of debate from his worldview, such as why he thinks logic, reasoning, morality, truth, and knowledge exist in his materialistic worldview. For Mr. Nye to even argue against the biblical position would be to give up his worldview (which cannot account for the existence of logic and reason) and borrow from the truth of God’s Word. In other words, for him to even try to make a case meant he lost the debate! He never answered this after being asked repeatedly to do so.

[...]

more and more people are realizing just how intellectually bankrupt AiG is

Yet we are increasing in support each year. This is mere hand waving. Our mission is to proclaim the absolute authority of God Word. Why would any Christian think this is bankrupt?

—in fact, some people i know, fellow old earth creationists, are now dialoguing with a woman who wrote a book defending YEC [young earth creation]—using mostly AiG materials—and, in light of criticisms of atheists, has now become an atheist.

And I used to hold to some old-earth ideas promoted by Dr. Hugh Ross, but because I couldn’t hold to geological and astronomical evolution in light of God’s Word or to the idea that the order of creation was different, that the old-earth position was not tenable.

The issue was God vs. man’s ideas. The hope would be that this woman would realize that atheists can be wrong but God cannot be.

as long as ministries like AiG endure, we'll see more and more stories like this;

As long as ministries like RTB exist that mix Christianity with secular humanistic religious ideas like the supposed big bang and millions of years in Genesis, then there will always be a need to help people get back to the authority of God’s Word beginning in Genesis.

especially among young people—once they realize they've been lied to by YEC ministries, they almost inevitably reject the christian faith.

Stats from America’s Research Group show the exact opposite. It was hypocritical Christian leaders who taught things like an old earth, when the kids can read Genesis and not get millions of years out of it, that led to the majority of kids walking away. Please read Already Gone by Ken Ham and Britt Beemer for more about why two-thirds of young people are leaving the church by the time they reach college.

By the way, what lies do you claim we teach?

my prediction is that, within 50 yrs AiG will either become nonexistent or so irrelevant that is practically doesn't exist, or that it will morph into an old earth creationist ministry!

Only the Lord knows. We ask that people pray to keep the ministry of Answers in Genesis a solid biblical authority ministry for years to come. But your prophecy is marked (consider Deuteronomy 13).

for those of you questioning your faith after watching ken ham lose to bill nye,

First, Mr. Nye didn’t win because he never addressed the debate topic. For those deceived into thinking that Mr. Nye won even though he never addressed the debate topic, we invite you to read the Bible (you can get an overview with Begin) and realize that God is never wrong, but people can be. It is a matter of faith in either fallible, imperfect men about the past or a perfect, infallible God.

Meanwhile, we’ve been praising the Lord for the many testimonies of people whose faith has been strengthened after watching the debate.

i encourage you to log onto [the Reasons to Believe website] for real answers to science-faith issues!

For those reading, Reasons to Believe believes that the secular interpretations of nature are equal to Scripture. Often times, they are used to supersede the plain reading of the Bible, particularly in Genesis in favor of the secular world’s ideas like the big bang.

The president of RTB, Dr. Hugh Ross, has made the claim in his book Creation and Time that nature is likened unto the 67th book of the Bible and should be trusted as such.2 He has reiterated this. If you read the Charisma article by Andy Butcher, “He Sees God in the Stars” (June 2003), you’ll find that Ross still agrees with this principle of adding to Scripture. The principle can even be found in his more recent book A Matter of Days.

RTB also agrees with astronomical evolution (big bang) and geological evolution (millions of years), which are tenets of the religion of humanism. They also believe the Flood of Noah’s Day was local and not a global, world-covering event (see, for example, Genesis 7:19–20).

We want to encourage RTB to get back to the authority of the Bible from the very first verse. When we read the pages of Scripture, the whole creation is corrupted due to sin (e.g., Romans 8:22), the ground has been cursed (Genesis 3:17), the Curse has not been removed yet (Revelation 22:3), and our fallen and sinful natures often err when trying to properly understand this sin-cursed and broken world.

So why treat nature on par with the 66 books of the Bible? Instead, the Bible should be used to supersede our fallible interpretations of nature, particularly the past.

GOD bless!

Blessing in Christ,

Bodie

Footnotes

1.Bill Nye, “Bill Nye’s Take on the Nye-Ham Debate,” Skeptical Inquirer 38, no. 3, “http://www.csicop.org/si/show/bill_nyes_take_on_the_nye-ham_debate/

2.Colorado Springs: Navpress 1994, 56.

Masato Toys #fundie evilyoshida.com

My 6-Year Old Just Sacrificed 5 People to Satan

Hey all

Have a 6 year old kid, I let him play his ipad on the weekends.

We downloaded this game called GOAT SIMULATOR:

All the info/title page etc look completely harmless, and to be honest we had a lot of fun and laughs playing for several days.

Its VERY FUNNY... you are a goat and can wander around and do all kinds of funny things, jumping on trampolines, flying around with jetpacks and all kinds of hilarious stuff. I really enjoyed it and we laughed a lot playing it, it seemed exactly the kind of game I like; unstructured, free to roam around and explore, lots of secret things to discover, etc

But then one day I was watching him play and he discovered THIS hidden in the trees:

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WTF

At first I didn't know quite what to think, but I went to do some research, and it turns out that THE WHOLE POINT OF THE GAME IS TO CREATE A SATANIC RITUAL!!!!

You have to bring 5 people into this circle and SACRIFICE THEM. As you do this the circle and pentagram start to glow:

Once you get 5 people, you become a SATAN-GOAT:

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By the time I figured this out my son was already ahead of me and has completed this, and was running around as the demon goat.

I told him to delete the game and explained exactly why.

THE POINT IS NOT that there is a satanic video game, this is no surprise.

The point is that there is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to indicate that the game has any such elements in it until you are deep into the game.

It looks totally innocent, and is marketed as a silly, harmless app for kids that is just fun and silly.

Then they twist and it is 100% Satanic.

That's fucked up, man.

Sharon Henderson #fundie livescience.com

Atheism is the least intellectual idea ever produced by a human, and requires a person to be in denial of a large percentage of the accrued knowledge of mankind.

Atheists believe the universe is the only exception to the fact that all things have a cause, that an explosion produced astonishing order ultimately producing rock soup which came alive resulting in Michaelangelo, Beethoven, and space probes. Logical, scientific stuff if I ever heard it! Those atheists are so smart!

Evolution is disproven by millions of facts, such as the fact that polymerase is a product of it's own translation, which proves Special Creation.

Over 100 yrs ago, Evolution Theory was plausible for true naturalists because of their rejection of God. Biological science was rudamentary and archaic, and provided no information about the operations of the cell. Modern biology has very greatly changed what is known of genetics and biology. It has been discovered that life is based upon information which is digitally encoded and stored in a more compressed form than man's best computer technology. compression schemes. It possesses thousands of 3-dimensional information hierarchies directed to the cell. When the DNA molecule is supercoiled as chromatin, much of it's information is available to the cell which is not available when the molecule is uncoiled, and vice versa. Genetic information when read by the cell's machinery in one direction produces different information than when it is read by the cell's machinery in the other direction. This feature of design alone is so far superior to man's computer software that it is not currently possible for us to conceive how this could have been done while making all of it's information relevant and critical to the organism. It's individual information sequences are overlapping and nested sharing nucleotides between sequences across the entire molecule. It's sequences across the entire 7 ft. long molecule are organized to conform to linguistics laws which go beyond Zipf's law of Linguistics. It contains codes built upon codes which regulate the use of each other. A recent discovery is a code which lies upon codes for proteins, sharing it's base pairs, and regulates how to express those sequences for proteins. If we liken the mechanical funtions of the protein machines of the cell as it interacts with DNA, then the operations mirror the human language properties of phonetics, semantics, syntax, and grammar, and punctuation. The information input and output processing of DNA includes the analytical operations of proofreading, information comparison, cut, insert, copy-and-past, backup and restore, all of which operate by algorithmic operations which possess "if" and "when" statements, just like computer programs. Information, algorithms, and linguistics are all immaterial nature has no potential to produce them. They are products only producible by a mind. During the organism's development, the genetic information instructs the cell on how to turn on and off, like chemical light switches, many sequences of information of the DNA in a supremely complex and yet to be understood orchestral arrangement of various groupings and orders so as to build the structures of the organism. These patterns of genes being switched on and off is so complex that man will likely never be able to decipher it. Science has disproven evolution and proven that life was created. If you want to believe in evolution because you refuse to acknowledge the existence of our creator, nobody can stop you. But doing so is to be a denialists of the discoveries of modern science - things which the outdated concept of Charles Darwin over 150 yrs ago could not have predicted. Believing in evolution today is as antiquated as it was to believe that flies arose from meat or frogs arose from mud a century prior to Darwin. Today's evolutionists are hold-outs, and will be written of by future historians as the dogmatic denialists they are.

Roger Marks #fundie disqus.com

Straight out of the homosexual denial book.
If they can form a deep lasting relationship with someone of the same sex, why is it which homosexuals research shows that they average relationship is 2 years. I don't call that deep and lasting bearing in mind that this year I celebrate my 50th wedding anniversary.
If there is no cure why have so many homosexuals become ex homosexuals? I know the gaystapo come up with all sorts of excuses to deny this fact but it doesn't alter the fact that it is a fact.
I have actually asked about 200 homosexuals for evidence that they were born homosexual. So far their evidence is zilch. They have none which says that they were not born homosexual.
Your rejection of homosexuality being a sin changes nothing at all. All it does is make you delusional and evidently you are trying to convince yourself of something that is not true.
No one was created to be homosexual as God said he created them male and female. Not male and female and homosexual.
Homosexuality is an attempt by Satan to distort God's creation and make it what it is not. That is why homosexuals generally are very unhappy people and deep down wish they were not what they are, hence so many of them wanting help to not be homosexual.

Joy2TheWorld #fundie christianteenforums.com

(Discussion regarding stem cell research)

I'm pretty much against it. Doesn't it find ways to cure illnesses? Either way I still think it's wrong. Not only those aborted babies weren't aloud a chance in life, their bodies then are put to 'Scientific Use'. Say a woman found out she was pregnant, and she was thinking of getting an abortion. One of the 'Pros' would be it'd make an addiction to scientific research. I'm not completley against it, I mean...at least it's for studies, if they just get rid of abortion all together then it'd be solved! That's just my opinion...sorry if everybody's pro choice, but I' m pro life biggrin.gif

Agaro #fundie forum.myspace.com

i was once told, by my youth pastor, that when someone denies God's exsistance, its like their denying the law of gravity. like, saying that (an example from him) 1 could fly if they jumped off of a building and flapped their arms like a bird.

if we did evolve from a life form that wasnt/isnt as capable to adape to new things, im thinking that this current generation (in the human population) might have tiny bumps under their skin, developing wings. (a type of evolution that was once believed to be true. idk if it still is believed but look it up. its there. like that guy - 4get his name - that believed giraffes' necks were once short) has anyone seen a missing link and can proove it? ex: the abonidble snowman (aka: the yeti) -i only saw part of the episode but i think i know how it ends. jeff corwin: relm of the yeti- the yeti ~ a bear (i 4get the name of the kind. it can stand on 2 and take a few steps) or a hairy person that walks mainly on 4 legs (or limbs) and doesnt speak human.

Anonymous Coward #conspiracy godlikeproductions.com

The Spherical Earth - Wht you are not being told

Spherical earthers are very comfortable in spinning the assumption that the flat Earth theory is a massive psy-op.

A psy-op is something that needs a lot of funds and support. All the flat-earthers have is their own home-spun resources to fund their study of the reality they live in.

A psy-op will involve major corporations and secret agencies. So far there are no major corporations who are involved in spreading the FE theory onto the masses.
Secret agencies can infiltrate the truth movement and create a fake theory, yes. But in the case of the FE theory , such a psy-op can be dangerous to them.
It will accidentally open up the minds of the masses to the question of trust: should I trust the Nasa moon landings? Were they too fake? What about the centuries that ancient man believed the earth to be flat? Or was it because centuries of ancient people were pure stupid idiots, and its only we in the present day that are so marvelously ahead of our time?

Questions will pop up, and if anything, a FE psy-op will only make things worse for the secret elite. This is why the FE theory is NOT a psy-op.
The FE theory cannot be a psy-op because many of the proofs can be studied by anyone and the truth may be know by anyone with a bit of intelligence to know where to look. All evidences presented so far since the last two centuries can be verified by ordinary people. Yes you can see a ship with a telescope even after you think its dipped below the horizon. Yes you can see islands that shouldn't be visible using 'scientific' calculations of a round earth. Yes you can.......
Ask yourself this: what will such a flat earth psy-op gain for the elite? It will gain nothing, because us truthers have really sharp brains and can see through lies a mile away.
If FE was a psy-op , people would have moved on and not discussed it everyday. The 100th monkey effect is real.
If a group of people KNOW that there is a psy-op going on, soon the hundredth monkey on a remote island on the far side of this world will move on. This is the minds ethereal plasma. Everything is connected. If something is not right, the 100th monkey will know it deep within its soul.

Flat Earth theory is not a psy-op because it is the reality you are living within.

The flat Earth theory is being studied and examined by truthers like you and me. Together all us truthers have maybe a couple hundred thousand dollars combined, to fund our study and exploration of this topic.

What you have on the other side is a so called 'space agency' that is going to be terribly embarrassed if the truth were to be known.
What we have on the other side are Free Mason societies with trillions of wealth , who have the ability and the power to not only tell you what you should think of SCIENCE , and indeed lay down the foundations of this fake SCIENCE so you will think of them as your reality, ....but also have the power to force you think the world is round. They can maintain the illusion of a spherical earth for years to come. So long as they are in power.

This is what we are up against.

I am a truther.
I know the truth of the world.

And the world is FLAT. Not round.

Anonymous Coward #conspiracy godlikeproductions.com

Why haven't we EVER seen a picture of Eclipses FROM SPACE?

I posted this thread saying space.. and it was CHANGED TO Moon? wtf.. these site really is controlled by shills

occur: it's as if they are SLIPPING a piece of something or projection on to the moon or sun for these eclipses.
For example during a so called solar eclipse (meaning during the day)... If something truly was about to pass in FRONT of the Sun... WE WOULD SEE IT Coming... Yet we only see alleged 'moon' ONLY when it starts flying right in front of the Sun..what they are doing is creating an ILLUSION somehow where they use projectors... It's as if something from Earth or the atmosphere is used to fly over and block the sun and moon.

The first pictures available for these fake eclipses start popping up in 1970.. Right after the fake Moon landings.. Since there is a Ice Firmament 100 miles above or so
..that cannot be crossed as stated in the Quran and Bible.

since I know and many know the Earth is flat and the Sun and Moon each have their own orbit and neither can catch up on one and other since one is for day and one for night..paraphrasing the Quran... And also in the Bible it mentions clearly that the Sun and Moon have orbits not Earth.

These eclipses work great with the Satanic Pagan Nasa new age model by basically trying to give God the middle finger... And to make fun of his great signs and creation.
In the Bible and Quran it mentions how the Sun and Moon are SIGNS from God...so why would God 'block' his OWN signs... Unless this is a VERY recent phoenomena..
All these silly colored eclipses like the blood Moons with the red coloring.. How silly...these Satan worshippers at Nasa and all over the world now.. At the UN just look at the flag for the UN it's FLAT... They all have been playing a big game with us... To basically drive us to hell with Satan.. And disconnect us from Allah/God... They will do anything.. Nothing is out of the question... Are indoctrination since we were born goes very DEEP and thus EVERYTHING we were taught MUST be questioned.
One of the biggest arguments these New World Order zombies state is that a lunar eclipse isn't possible in a Flat Earth Model... Well the Earth is fixed... And those two.. The sun and moon have Orbits... They had to invent these eclipses as another way of denying the flatness of Earth.
Water never curves on the horizon... Weather balloons sent up 50 miles even show a FLAT horizon...what your gut always told you since you were a kid has been right..Round Earther Satanists state that the Earth rotates at about 1,000mph on its axis... Or 16 miles a minute or about .27 miles a second.. So let's say someone jumped off a tree and it took 5 seconds to fall down to the ground... According to the round earth Satan model the person should be About 1.5 miles away!??
Yet they are not. ThThey always end up right where they started.
If a pickup truck is moving and you jump off of it you will fall... Also if a truck is going East and the Earth allegedly rotates East on its axis... Than when you jump up from a flat bed truck you should be ahead of the truck in the round earth model yet more than likely you will just end up falling off the truck.
sura 21, verse 33:
"(God is) the One Who created the night,and day, the sun and the moon. Each one is travelling in an orbit with its own motion."

EoD #fundie forums.thegaminguniverse.com

[In a thread on... whether or not fact and opinion are the same? wtf?]

I've tried avoiding this debate for it's utter absurdity (the title is an oxymoron) but, it seems most of you share the same opinion of the few topics I bring to this forum, so here I am.

It stands to reason that many scientists have overlooked this question entirely, rather accepting many theories as fact, and basing many more theories upon them, when in reality if one were to be disproven, they would all crumble to the ground, and we'd have to start over from scratch reshaping all of our ideas about anyone school of science. The theory of relativity is one of these, upon which countless ideas about physics and the relation of objects and enerygy within our known world have been created. Einstein reported several times throughout his memoirs that he thought he was wrong about this, and invited people to disprove him...though no one ever really tried. Through the simple processes of logic while observing many things that are obvious about our world and energy in general, we can see what Einstein forgot, or simply left out of his famous energy equation; E=MC^2. Frequency, density, modulation, and countless other aspects of matter and energy have simply been overlooked. To say that accelerating any one mass to the speed of light squared would transform it into energy...is proposturous. It is to assume that the speed of light is the end all velocity of the Universe, the fastest any object could ever travel...ever. Quantum physics challenges this theory on many levels, as does the idea of a fourth dimension, and the existance of a black hole...yet given these flaws apparent in Einsteins theory, we still base most of our ideas concerning physics on that one basic principle.