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Chief Minister Mahmood Khan #fundie

Pakistan province bans males from all-girl schools

Khyber Pakhtunkhwa province’s chief minister has banned males from going into female educational institutions across the region

A province in Pakistan that was once a Taliban stronghold has placed restrictions on gender integration in educational institutions and banned males from working with female students.

On Sunday, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa province’s chief minister Mahmood Khan enforced an Islamic ethos by banning males from entering female educational institutions across the province. He also restricted all male guests and banned media coverage at events at girls’ schools.

Ziauddin Yousafzai, the father of Nobel laurate Malala Yousafzai, tweeted: “Dear PM @ImranKhanPTI, Is this the “Change” and “Naya {new} Pakistan” you promised us? Institutionalization of Talibanization?! “No male minister, MNAs, MPAs & officers shall be invited to the girls’ schools as Chief Guests. Entry … strictly banned”

Liberals, academics and moderates criticized the bans, saying the move was politically motivated to appease religious forces amid the fast depleting popularity of the government.

“Religion is a tool that Pakistani politicians use frequently to further their ambitions and just as often to cover up for their financial or other crimes. The out-of-the-blue announcement by KP’s chief minister banning males from entering all-girls’ schools is certainly despicable and stupid,” Pervez Hoodbhoy, a Pakistani nuclear physicist, activist, columnist and a distinguished professor at the Forman Christian College and the Quaid-e-Azam University told Asia Times.

He said it left one wondering what had motivated the chief minister.

“Is the man just a run-of-the-mill fanatic who thinks women should never be seen or heard or is his newfound holiness connected with his dubious past?” he asked. He recalled that in 2014 the Peshawar High Court had removed him from the position of provincial minister on charges of embezzlement and corruption.

“Unfortunately crookedness and professed piety are known to get along famously well in Islamic Pakistan,” he added.

Chief Minister Mahmood Khan, while banning gender integration in girls’ schools, also directed the education department to discourage the publicity of social, literary, sports and annual day activities of female students on social and mainstream media.

By doing so, he claimed, girls would get an education “in the true spirit of social, culture and Islamic values” in the province. The advisor to the chief minister, Zia Ullah Khan Bangash, who passed on the chief executive’s instructions, was not available for comment despite Asia Times’ repeated attempts.

“The founding father, Muhammad Ali Jinnah, had no qualms in involving his sister Fathma Jinnah in the political struggle for Pakistan in 1947 and his party men used to honor her as a colleague without gender discrimination,” Pakistan Muslim League (Nawaz) senator Pervaiz Rasheed told Asia Times.

He said Jinnah’s ideology and vision needed to be followed. Jinnah, he pointed out, always stood for gender, racial, sectarian and linguistic integration.

“Every citizen irrespective of his or her sexual categorization has equal rights and obligations. The constitution does not allow discrimination because of sex, creed, sect, color, language and race,” the veteran politician said.

PTI chairperson Imran Khan, who is known to be soft on the Taliban, demanded reproachment with the Islamist group and called for the provision of offices in Pakistan for their leadership. Khan’s opponents, including the leader of the right-wing nationalist Awami National Party (ANP), called him “Taliban Khan.”

The spokesperson for the ANP, Zahid Khan, when contacted by Asia Times asked what else could be expected from a man who was an ardent supporter of the Taliban.

A senior government official, who asked not be identified, said the ban on the entry of males at girls’ schools was initially enforced at the primary and middle level. It will be extended to the higher level once the order is fully implemented and the system is purged of “un-Islamic tenets.”

The chief minister, he said, instructed the province’s education department that “the schools should invite female dignitaries as chief guests in the sports and other functions.”

Unlike the general perception in educated and liberal circles, which do not see eye to eye with the provincial government on the gender discrimination issue, the lower middle class, whose children study in government schools, are quite content with the order.

“It’s a very good decision and hopefully our girls would be feeling more secure and happy now,” said Muhammad Aslam, who runs a grocery shop in the Tehkal area of Peshawar. Two of his daughters were studying at a local girls’ primary school.

Firdous Khan works in a shop on the main road in Peshawar city and has two daughters going to school. He said the ban would benefit the school-going girls as they would get more freedom to participate in the functions and sports events.

“One should realize that CM instructions would help preserve the KP-specific cultural and religious values,” he said.

Siraj ul-Haq, Tehreek-e-Insaf, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa politicians and elders and unnamed Peshawar judge #fundie

Islamabad: In some of the most socially conservative regions of Pakistan this weekend’s local government elections will be men-only affairs.

Local politicians and elders say parties contesting elections for district and village council seats in Hangu and parts of Malakand, districts of the north-western province of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa (KP), have struck deals barring women from voting.

There are fears of similar arrangements across KP, a province bordering Afghanistan where many Pashtun communities observe purdah traditions so strict that many female candidates do not publish photographs on election posters.

The cultural difficulties are often compounded by dire security in areas where the Taliban and other militant groups are active. In a parliamentary by-election in Lower Dir this month, none of the eligible 50,000 women in the constituency turned out to vote. One report said mosques broadcast warnings to women, and polling stations were guarded by “baton-wielding men” who blocked the few women who did try to vote.

On Wednesday, the high court in Peshawar threw out a petition lodged by 12 women from Lower Dir who demanded the election be rerun. Shahab Khattak, the women’s lawyer, said the case was dismissed after 15 minutes, during which the judge seemed unsure whether women really were entitled to vote.

“The honourable judge asked whether it was a fundamental right for women to vote,” Khattak said. “We said indeed it is a fundamental right and a constitutional right.

“That there has been massive discrimination against women should be clear from the zero participation at the polls.” Siraj ul-Haq, leader of the Jamaat-e-Islami, an Islamist party that jointly controls the KP government, argued that the women of Lower Dir had merely chosen to respect local traditions by not voting.

Jamaat-e-Islami governs KP in coalition with the Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI), which is led by the former cricketer Imran Khan. One of the PTI’s elected provincial representatives said the party had been complicit in keeping women away from the ballot box in KP, including in this weekend’s poll in Hangu.

In the run-up to the 2013 general election, the PTI in Upper Dir signed a written agreement with other parties barring women from voting and stipulating large fines for anyone breaking the agreement. In the end just one woman’s vote was recorded.

Menon #racist

Re: India only has enough ammunition to supply troops for ten days

I just read the trash written by one Maria Abi-Habib an obvious falistini in love with Pakistan. Maybe even an ISI agent. Who knows!! In any case an india hater. I would like to tell that uneducated uncultured woman (I am told she lives in India and enjoys Indian hospitality but love her uncultured terrorist cousins of Pakistan and hates India) a few facts
1. She need not worry about Indian armed forces’ capabilities but should worry about the possible dismantlement of her terrorist friends across the border and how many minutes’ammunition her brothers have got.
2. She does not realise that there was ongoing asymmetric warfare going against India by a failed nation of terrorists (her brothers) for decades thanks to the bastardy of Britain.
3. Because of our culture, (unlike her and her ilk), we tried to reason with pkistan and did all we can without success.
4. Pakis thought it was a weakness and continued and India now has said thus far and no further. We bombed the hell out of a terrorist camp. There were 300 phones active there before the attack and now none.
5. The Paks tried to retaliate and were sent off by IAF. The MIG-21 shot down an F-16. Poor woman does not seem to have understood its impact. As for “vintage” nature of MIG-21 these are the aircraft that achieved 5-1 kill against American F-16s at Cope India.
6. I also suggest that you speak to REAL lawmakers and not to idiots who got a seat because of progeniosis. I am sure, being what she is, she will have neither the wherewith all or ability to get into a debate.

this whole paper is aligned with discrediting India

This is just a british rag that is still upset that they can no longer loot India and is offering aid to UK because it is now worse than a third world Country so they have Arab slaves and Arab women with no intelligence ranting against India. Ask her a simple question "how many minutes’ fuel and ammunition her terrorist brothers have"?

India is playing a double game with America.India is still very close to Russia.It buys most of its arms from Russia.India is breaking American sanctions on Iran by trading in local currencies.India is also buying oil from Venezuela where America.

The handle itself show that this is a fake ID in all probability that of a Pakistani. There is no free game like what Pakistan is used to play. We have told America that we will not be cutting our defence ties with Russia and America is also welcome to trade with us. Similarly we have told the United States of America that we are not going to cut of the Irani and supply of oil. These were our conditions and it was accepted by the United States of America. We are not, unlike Pakistan, going with a begging bowl to anybody and everybody and then cheating them. Where are you next going to go to beg for money? Within a week Baluchistan will rise up. Iran will attack the terrorist facilities. Afghanistan will lay claim to North West Frontier province now called Khyber Paktunwa. MQM will rise up in Karachi. India will take over POK and Khyber Paktunwa. Then what will remain of Pakistan? Think.

Nawaz Sharif, Abdul Wali Khan University students #fundie

A university student in Pakistan accused of blasphemy against Islam has been killed by a mob of fellow students on campus, police say.

Many students have been arrested after the brutal attack in the northern city of Mardan, and the campus has been closed.

Reports suggest that two young men were accused of posting offensive content on Facebook. One survived with injuries.


The murdered student has been identified as Mashal Khan, who studied journalism. Some reports say he was shot, while others say he was beaten to death with planks.

"He was badly tortured after being shot at a close range... He was beaten with sticks, bricks and hands," senior police official Niaz Saeed told the AFP news agency.

Hundreds of people were involved, the officer said. Graphic video footage of the incident has emerged online.

Police had not been investigating the two accused men, nor had any case been filed against them, and the mob appeared to have acted on rumours, the Dawn newspaper reports.

Last month Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif voiced his support for a wide-ranging crackdown on blasphemous content on social media.

In a statement on his party's official Twitter account, he described blasphemy as an "unpardonable offence".

An official at Abdul Wali Khan University who spoke on condition of anonymity said Mr Khan was disliked by other students for his liberal and secular views.

At least 65 people have been murdered in Pakistan after being accused of blasphemy since 1990, a recent think tank report said.

neelu #fundie

No it doesn't count as islamic governance. Democracy as a concept and ruling system has its origins in kufr and is based on kufr. Prophet Muhammad (saw) only ruled the people by establishing the Khilafah state and implementing the shariah upon them in totality. Democracy puts what laws to choose to a vote and as democracy stands on pillars of other kufr concepts such as freedom of expression (eg what was published by charlie hebdo), free market policies that also permit the sale of alcohol and gambling etc the list of unislamic bases used upon which democracy stands should be enough to realise that it is completely different and incompatible with the implementation of Islam. What has happened in a few Muslim countries like Saudi is that they pick a few Islamic punishments to implement and say that they are implementing shariah when in fact they're not. Or you get countries like Pakistan that claim to be 'Islamic republic' just cos' they misapply some blasphemy laws but at the same time choose to vote for leaders who allow kufaar troops to set up bases in Muslim lands to bomb other Muslims both in Pakistan and Afghanistan.

What has happened is that the Ummah has lost the true Islamic leadership and ruling system for almost a hundred years, so people are so out of touch with the idea of what an Islamic ruling system is supposed to consist of and are so defeatist assuming it's too hard to make it a reality, that instead they seek a 'compromise solution' in which they implement a bit of islam and a bit of kufr and call it 'islamic democracy'- implement a handful of islamic rules to keep the religious lot happy and let the rest of the laws be based on kufr to keep the real leaders in the white house etc happy. There is no such thing as islamic democracy; there is either democracy or there is islam and anyone trying to reconcile the two is deceiving the ummah into compromising a chunk of islamic values.

Saudi Committee for the Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vice and Sheik Abdul-Aziz bin Baz #fundie

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In Saudi Arabia, the Committee for the Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vice is a religious police force that has been a constant presence in the Kingdom arresting woman having coffee with colleagues or forcing young girls to burn to death in fire rather than run out without their scarves. Then there was the time that the religious police in Dammam marched into a popular dinosaur exhibit and shut it down without any explanation of why the dinosaurs threatened the virtue of good Muslims. Then there was the flogging of a women who insulted them. Then there are the round ups of religious people for simply praying at home. Then there is the arrest of a man for standing in line with his wife at a grocery store. The list goes on and on. The latest entry is the arrest of young men for simply dancing at a birthday party. Birthday parties have been denounced by Saudi clerics as unIslamic, but this the first such arrest that many can recall that did not involve dancing with women.

The Vice police in Buraydah arrested the men for “loud music and inappropriate dancing.” The charge reflected the medieval views of the dominant Wahhabi sect of Islam. The police said that the young men were in “a comprising situation in their dance and shameful movements.” There was even a birthday cake. There is enough to send the Vice police into a fence. Recall that grand mufti Sheik Abdul-Aziz bin Baz declared that “It’s not permissible to take part in them. Birthday parties are an innovation . . . and people are in no need of innovations.”

The Vice police also noted that they saw the hair styles of the men as non-traditional and said that such styles are dangerous and “can lead to immorality and even homosexuality.”

adbulwakil, vicious L, Muslim First, and Abu Dhahabi #fundie

(abdulwakil): This would be totally wrong and unislamic behaviour if they are making dua for those people who passed away without having entered into Islam, if anyone of them is actually doing what the title has said.

(vicious L): If only our imams would do the same for our Muslim victim brothers and sisters in Palestine Afghanistan, Iraq, Bosnia, Chechnya and all over the world where Muslims are being massacred, muslim men thrown in prisons and muslim women raped and Muslim children being made orphans

everyday it's a 9/11 in the Muslim world and these imams are silent against the aggression of the kuffar, but when the kuffar blow up ther own buildings and blame it on the Muslims in order to invade and massacre Muslims and steal our wealth

We have to come together on a special day and pray for the victims of the kuffar who died for kuffar to invade Muslim lands.

(Muslim First): My thoughts exactly, kind of reminds me when Bin Laden died these "Muslims" were happy in the media.

(Abu Dhahabi): they are doing it cause they want money from the British Government. We all know how greedy some of these uncles are sitting on the mosque commitees.

mikitta #fundie

I was good friends with a woman who practiced Bah[a]i. Yes, they are incredibly difficult to witness to - it's like trying to sculpt room tempurature water. In my experience, Bahi are very passive people, but very very good at circular logic and side stepping the issues.

Umm_Hanzalah #fundie

Some of you here are saying that it's ok for Muslim kids to be friends with kaafir kids at a young age. I disagree...this might have been true 20 years ago, but with the way kaafir kids are nowadays they tend to be more sexually aware and have more bad manners. They might say rude things about their parents for example or have an abnormal level of knowledge of things they shouldn't know about or want to discuss cartoons that are unislamic-forget cartoons they probably watch movies with their parents. Some of them may be into music and their parents may have no qualms with them watching anything they like on tv.

I don't have a tv in my house, my son is allowed to watch things that have been monitored...not all cartoons are appropriate. None of us watch movies and it's expected that he speaks in a respectful way. I am, teaching my eldest son (41/2) about Allah and Islaam...basic things. If I was to put him with kaafir kids it will mess all of that up and confuse him.

He can interact with the kuffar as he gets older, but he will have to know that what they do is wrong and not to get close to them. Even "bad" Muslim kids...they would have to be taught not to get close to them either unless they can teach them about Islam.

Also, I just want to mention something about the older generation-they didn't know society as well as we do now since they were from back home (born and brought up there) and so they didn't always have the correct tools or know how to deal with issues that our generation might have had. Many of them felt safe about everything and then got a rude awakening when their child hit their teenage years wanted a bf/gf, took drugs fact it still happens now where parents think it's ok to teach Islam at home, just salah and how to read Quran and have no idea about how wider society works and feel that their kids will be ok...Not only that, but many of them don't practice what they preach. Islam is just a culture to them

Saudi Committee for the Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vice #fundie

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Saudi Arabia has given the world another bizarre example of life under the strict Islamic code and values of the Kingdom. The Talaee Al-Noor International School in Riyadh painted an inviting and playful rainbow image on its building. The Kingdom’s religious police quickly swooped in an arrested the administrator, fined the school $25,000, and ordered the facade painted over. The reason? Rainbows are seen as “emblems Of homosexuality.” It is not clear what the religious police will do with naturally occurring rainbows.

The offensive, unIslamic rainbow is now gone and the morals of Saudi citizens saved by another brave act of the Saudi Arabian Committee for the Promotion of Virtue and the Prevention of Vice.

Bruno G. #fundie

I had, since I was in politics, participated in actions against the far-right and grown up in left and classic liberal circles. After 10 years I started to realize that Islam represents a new totalitarian challenge. Instead of a high moral message I saw a disgusting, archaic pamphlet.

In the local Turkish-Islamic Union for Religious Affairs they showed me all the nationalism and religious indoctrination of Turks in the middle of Germany. I read books such as Heinig, Abdel-Samad and Ates that opened my eyes for many things that went wrong in the immigration scene. I wanted to organize together with friends along my way an event for the rights of muslim womem and girls and fights against shotgun weddings and marital murder. I was painfuly alienated when my leftist friends refused and labeled the project as "right-wing" and xenophobic.

Now I knew that the left was part of the problem. The woman did however still talk and I learned during the talking with her and her husband a lot about the unsustainable state and the violence potential in parallelly growing Turkish and Arab communities.

At 2015 the failure of the political elites became public: keywords welcome insanity, control obesseion, violence wave. The fear of female friends and neighbors to go outside was unforgettable. Behind the chaos politics of Merkel there stood and stands an Alliance of naive sense ethicists, that used the "refugee" as a projection for their care insanity and cult of excuse, ice cold party tacticians, that quint on the feet of new civilians and EU technocrats, that use immigration to push their vision forward of a destruction of national states and the centralization in a EU-superstate.

Critics get shut down, despite a great part of the population feeling the despair. Without change in direction the justice system, social security and the European/German culture will be destroyed. This is why we need critical votes in the Bundestag, to remove the old guard. With 15 until 20% AfD the political scene would be a total new one and there would still be hope to prevent threatening civil war scenarios.