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Kirk Cameron #fundie rawstory.com

Former child star and heart throb of the TV show Growing Pains, Kirk Cameron, has apparently morphed into a giver of marriage advice that seems to come from a different decade.

The actor-turned-Christian evangelist had some of this advice this week, telling the Christian Post that women should “follow” their husbands’ leadership.

“Wives are to honor and respect and follow their husband’s lead, not to tell their husband how he ought to be a better husband,” he opined. “When each person gets their part right, regardless of how their spouse is treating them, there is hope for real change in their marriage.”

He added, “A lot of people don’t know that marriage comes with instructions. And, we find them right there in God’s word.”

Cameron has six children with his wife and fellow actress, Chelsea Noble, according to the Post.

This point of view isn’t unique to Cameron, the Friendly Atheist points out.

“He’s only expressing what most churches still preach on a weekly basis, what has been the common theme of Biblical marriage for thousands of years, and is still part of most wedding ceremonies today, reminding wives to, ‘submit to your husbands in every way,'” Horus Gilgamesh writes. “Did the secular world really not have any idea that this type of inequality is readily taught in scripture and practiced in Christian households around the world?”

Cameron’s sister, Candace Cameron Bruce, also actively promotes the idea that wives should be submissive to husbands.

“The definition I’m using with the word ‘submissive’ is the biblical definition of that,” Bure, who starred in the sitcom “Full House,” wrote in her 2014 book. “So, it is meekness, it is not weakness. It is strength under control, it is bridled strength. And that’s what I choose to have in my marriage.”

Kirk Cameron #fundie facebook.com

(Context: Kirk Cameron called on his fans to go to Rottentomatoes and inflate the score of his most recent movie, "Saving Christmas")

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Keep storming! The gates of Rotten Tomatoes are falling!

You are A M A Z I N G! You just drove the Rotten Tomato rating to an all-time, soaring high of 94%!

Now the haters and atheists are coming out of the woodwork, attempting to hammer your good work (they rallied to drop your rating super low). They are attempting, once again, to ruin Saving Christmas for everyone. Look at their language, vulgarity, and spirit of hate. They can try to ruin a rating, but they can't stop you from going with family and friends to see Saving Christmas this weekend! If people continue to turn out, the theaters will hold the movie longer. YOU have the power, just like with Rotten Tomatoes, to keep Saving Christmas in the theaters.

Your support sends a very loud message. Films like Soul Surfer, God's Not Dead, Courageous and Saving Christmas are small lights in a dark world. Together, let's light up movie theaters this weekend and remind everyone this Christmas of the true reason for the season. Together, they can't stop us! Are you with me??

Kirk Cameron #fundie bizstandardnews.com

Conservatives seem to be bending over backward to avoid blaming the recent Las Vegas shooting on easy access to high-powered weapons.

Fundamentalist and former actor Christian Kirk Cameron has blamed the shooting on “liberal Hollywood.”

“The shooter was influenced by Hollywood values pushed in violent video games and rap music,” said Cameron in an interview with Charisma magazine. “If we had a Bible in every home and prayer in school, we wouldn’t have these problems.” But Las Vegas shooter Stephen Paddock was in his 60s and most likely didn’t play video games or listen to rap music.

Ray Comfort and Kirk Cameron #fundie assistnews.net

“Intelligent Design versus Evolution” is a new board game that was designed by actor Kirk Cameron and best-selling author Ray Comfort, to help fight against the what they maintain is the brainwashing of an entire generation.

Cameron said, “We are very excited about this game because it presents both sides of the creation evolution argument, and in doing so, shows that the contemporary theory of evolution is perhaps the greatest hoax of modern times.”

Comfort explains, “Intelligent Design Versus Evolution is unique in that the playing pieces are small rubber brains. We used the brains because want players to use their brains. The incentive is to play for ‘brain’ cards, and the team or individual with the most brains wins. There are brains all over the game, because we want to make people think deeply about what they believe.

“This is because the average person doesn’t know that the evolutionist lives by a blind faith in an unscientific theory (a theory that one scientist called a 'fairy-tale for grown-ups’). Through the game we show the irrational nature of evolution, using their own beliefs and quotes. This explains why evolutionists have a special language, something we call ‘the language of speculation,’ where they use words like ‘We believe, perhaps, probably, maybe, could have . . . ’ They can’t speak of their theory without it.”

Cameron adds, “To believe in evolutionary ‘transitional forms’ is to hold to the belief that one species evolved into another. However, there is no scientific evidence of any species evolving into another—not in creation, nor in the ‘fossil record.’ Most people don’t know that."

Ray Comfort & Kirk Cameron #fundie fortpatriot.com

[Part of the description for a board game called, Intelligent Design vs Evolution]

Intelligent Design Vs. Evolution is deliberately biased, because there are only two alternatives when it comes to human origins. Either we are the result of intelligent design or we are the result of the opposite - unintelligent design. We were either created by a God whose genius is infinitely beyond human reasoning, or the entire creation of flowers, birds, trees, the sun, the moon, the stars, the seasons, the marvel of the human body, etc, all happened by accident. Most who blindly believe the theory of evolution have no idea how unscientific it is. Intelligent Design Vs. Evolution is more than a game - it is an educational expose of perhaps the greatest hoax ever pulled over the eyes of secular humanity.

Kirk Cameron #fundie citizenlink.org

[Regarding the new movie Fireproof, which he stars in and which is also a witnessing tool! CitizenLink is a Focus on the Family website.]

When Fireproof came around, I thought, "Wow, this would be a great opportunity to be part of a project where the Lord is getting a message out to people about marriage — a sacred institution, an institution that is falling apart. It's been watered down. It's been redefined. It's been maligned and attacked. This is a great time to try to turn the statistics around by holding up God's picture of marriage, and say, "This is something so much bigger, so much better, and so much more awesome, than what most people have ever been told, and have ever experienced."

Kirk Cameron #fundie christianpost.com

[In an article about the 'debate' that was supposed to prove God exists]

"Evolution is unscientific. In reality, it is a blind faith that's preached with religious zeal as the gospel truth. I'm embarrassed to admit that I was once a naïve believer in the theory,” said the former television star in a statement. “Atheism has become very popular in universities – where it's taught that we evolved from animals and that there are no moral absolutes. So we shouldn't be surprised when there are school shootings.”

Kirk Cameron #fundie patheos.com

One thing we know about hurricanes — and all weather — is that this is not Mother Nature in a bad mood. This is a spectacular display of God’s immense power. And when He puts His power on display, it’s never without reason. There’s a purpose. And we may not always understand what that purpose is, but we know it’s not random. And we know that weather is sent to cause us to respond to God in humility, awe, and repentance…

Kirk Cameron #fundie people.com

"Atheism has been on the rise for years now, and the Bible of the atheists is The Origin of Species," Cameron tells PEOPLE. "We have a situation in our country where young people are entering college with a belief in God and exiting with that faith being stripped and shredded. What we want to do is have student make an informed, educated decision before they chuck their faith."

Kirk's Fiery Banana #fundie answers.yahoo.com

Why would we go there? We have our own museum now, just like we have our own version of science. You folks are always doing testing and extra work when the evidence is right before you - the simple yet complex banana - the intelligently designed wonder food from Heaven

[Answer to: Have any creationists been to the Museum of Natural History in NYC?]

Bruce N. Cameron #fundie crosswalk.com

Some Christians go further and find the whole concept of supporting a union contrary to their understanding of New Testament teachings. Unions typically use strong tactics, often including violent strikes, to force employers to concede to their demands. Three of the giants of the New Testament, John the Baptist, Paul and Peter, cast serious doubt on whether a Christian should be a part of this kind of organization. John the Baptist, in Luke 3:14, counseled believers to be content with their wages. Paul, in Colossians 3:22-24, told believers to work for their master as if they were working for the Lord. Peter, in 1 Peter 2:18-24, counseled Christians to suffer indignity at the hands of masters rather than retaliate. A Christian who understands that working for the employer is like working for the Lord will view most union tactics with grave concern. Since believers are warned by Paul in 2 Corinthians 6:14-17 against being "yoked together" with those who do not accept Biblical teaching, many find it impossible to join or financially support a labor union.

Cameron #fundie rr-bb.com

I once heard that Darwin observed his child sleeping and noticed that he had a resemblance to an ape and thus formed his hypothesis. That would seem laughable were it not so stupid. I have seen TV shows that show dogs and their owners that have look alike faces. Did we come from dogs? No, its more like we are going to the dogs!

Evolution is on the ropes. It has no real basis other than a "belief system" based on time, chance and speculation.

joe_christian #fundie libertynewsforum.com

most libs are really just secular humanists in disguise who openly subscribe to the theory that rational men originally evolved from sub-human wild animals in Africa which may be said to have closely resembled modern uncaged monkeys howling over a spoiled banana.

Perhaps they are in a latent stage of post-Christian regression and are devolving into that natural state from which they profess to have originated from.

Paul Cameron #fundie rightwingwatch.org

Universities have a preponderance of heterosexuals. But, the perhaps 8% or so of employees who practice homosexuality are responsible for the great bulk of the child molestations! Everyone knows that homosexuals go ‘where the boys are.’ Thus the Boy Scouts and Catholic Priest scandals. But the University and Hollywood scandals exhibit another rule — ‘where gays cluster, boys suffer.’

Everyone knows ‘the pill’ freed heterosexuals from social control — but it also (indirectly) freed those who practice homosexuality. Before the 1960’s, ‘everyone’ had to conform to a norm that guaranteed a future — each citizen was responsible to get married and produce children. This social milieu was self-reinforcing: ‘If I must be disciplined in my sex life, then everybody else should be as well!’ Thus the citizenry generally worked to suppress those with deviant sexual habits.

But that changed radically with the invention of ‘the pill.’ Shielded by the anonymity of modern life, the pill assured that those with heterosexual tastes could live their sex lives almost free from social discipline. Pregnancies would no longer reveal your liaisons, and no one knew whether you were childless by fate or choice. Good news for homosexuals, because if heterosexuals could ‘do whatever they wanted’ sexually, the notion of fairness inevitably pushed heterosexuals to agree with ‘why punish those with other harmless sexual tastes?’

Of course, ‘harmless’ is the operative word. Is homosexuality indeed harmless?

Evangelizing for homosexuality, the entertainment industry (joining the psychiatric professions) began to flood the media with the message that ‘homosexuality is different, yet harmless.’ Hollywood asserted that homosexual practitioners were just as stable, just as worthy of marriage, just as worthy of parenthood, etc. The combination of these two new realities — the pill and Hollywood promotion of homosexuality — is the key to understanding where we are today.

Paul Cameron #fundie rightwingwatch.org

"Homosexuals, from the get-go, as long as we have recorded history, have used the molestation of boys as a way to recruit to homosexuality," Cameron declared, claiming that his "studies" have found that sixty percent of boys who reported that their first sexual experience was a same-sex experience grow up to be gay.

"So this is a tremendous recruitment tool," he said. "If a gay can get to your son first, the chances are about 50-50, as near as we can tell, that your son is going to be a practicing homosexual to some degree."

"It's very important to keep your sons from having a homosexual experience," he emphasized:

Klingenschmitt and Cameron then discussed Cameron's work making it illegal for gays to donate blood, which Cameron said is a prohibition that must remain in place today because gays travel the world where they have reckless sex and pick up all sorts of exotic diseases that endanger the rest of society.

"What gays do is so dangerous, I mean, rectal sex. I mean, think of all of the stuff that they do," Cameron said. "You don't know what else is out there. We still don't know all the components in human blood. They've got other stuff, if there's something over in another country in the world, given that gays travel more, given that gays have sex wherever they travel, uh oh, they bring back whatever is out there and there's always something new out there."

Cameron #fundie rr-bb.com

Only in our day and age would a presidential candidate calling homosexuality a sin make big headlines. Huckabee called it right, and I hope he doesn't try to back peddle on it.

There also was a time when isolating aids carriers was thought to be a good idea. Aids is a political football. It used to be called GRID....gay related immuno deficienct desease. The gays didn't like that, so the name was changed.

Our blood supply is screened to avoid aids contaminated blood from corrupting the supply. So you can thus see the danger that is present.

Aids could be wiped out if only.......men would stop exchanging body fluids with each other.

But no. Man must have his perversion and then demand a treatment be developed for the consequences of his perversion.

The ones who need our help are those like children who accidentally receive aids tainted blood. Thus isolating aids carriers could eliminate this problem as well.

Cameron #fundie rr-bb.com

I don't see how the genie is gonna be put back in the bottle....

I look for the Battle of Gog and Magog next, though I always felt that the rapture could be a catalyst for this battle. With the U. S. crippled due to the millions missing and the resulting confusion of the rapture, what better time for Gog to strike Israel. With Russia and her allies destroyed by God, Israel rises to prominence. Then the a/c steps in to calm down the ones left behind.

It looks to all be on the horizon.

Watch Persia (Iran) and Putin very closely.

Will Kirk #fundie youngcomposers.com

Deny it all you want. Atheism is a religion, you're just so desperate to avoid the word "Religion" that you're willing to deny an easily identifiable fact.

Atheism for one, is a belief system

For two, it has a theology

For three, it is a religion no matter how hard you nor anyone else argues

cameron #fundie rr-bb.com

I agree that the baby mammoth was frozen. But it had to be quick frozen to be so well preserved, not frozen over time.

There was a cataclysmic event a few thousand years ago that would have produced a quick freeze as the earth lost its protective covering and tilted due to a lot of water that came down over a forty day period.

Of course.....global warming may have thawed it out.

Bad day for evolutionists who just don't get it.

Paul Cameron #fundie familyresearchinst.org

The ‘hate crimes’ gays complain about are infrequent and seldom involve more than name-calling or snide remarks. The FBI reported 431 hate crimes against homosexuals for the U.S. in all of 1991. Only one was “confirmed” for Washington, D.C. – yet D.C. gay activists claimed 397 incidents! When pressed, they admitted that at least 366 of these “crimes” consisted of “verbal harassment.”

In line with traditional psychiatric opinion, violence goes hand-in-hand with the ‘gay’ lifestyle. Almost all the exposure by homosexuals to violence and disease is encountered in the gay subculture. Most of the murderers in the lifespan study whose sexual orientation could be determined were also homosexual. While violence toward homosexuals is deplorable, most violence involving gays is self-induced (and the gay subculture may export more violence than it absorbs from without).

Charlie Kirk #fundie twitter.com

For your political talks over the Thanksgiving table remember:

Socialism killed 100 million people in last 100 years
Capitalism is the cure to poverty
America is the greatest country ever
Taxation is theft
There are only 2 genders
Trump is everyone's President

Paul Cameron #fundie huffingtonpost.com

Actually, while I’m not sure about the claims by the various people who have reported that Obama has at least participated at times with them in homosexual acts, this certainly lends some credence
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The long term goal of the homosexual movement is to get every little boy to grab his ankles and every little girl to give it a try. They will not rest until every one of our children at least gets to try, has the opportunity and maybe is forced to at least once experience homosexual acts.

Cameron #fundie rr-bb.com

If the dino was 110 millions years old, he would not be found anywhere near the surface of the Earth. He would be under miles and miles of dirt and sediment and likely decomposed to microscopic particles.

Even villages excavated from several thousand years ago are covered witn many feet of dirt.

Think folks! Think!

Paul Cameron #fundie familyresearchinst.org

Since the gay movement was partially inspired by prominent pederasts (e.g., Oscar Wilde, Paul Goodman, André Gide, Allen Ginsberg), if Islamic fundamentalists come to believe pederasty is part and parcel of ‘the Islamic truth’ (and millions of Muslims may apparently believe this), might they form an alliance with the gay movement?

Ken Cameron #fundie religioustolerance.org

[Apparently suggesting the homosexuals need to be rounded up and slaughtered like cattle]

Look at all the other great cultures of the world that fell. They don't exist anymore because they became dysfunctional. Even Alberta is inching toward destruction.... If I had livestock that didn't breed, I would have to destroy it....[Homosexuals]...are ill. But the system says they have the right to be treated like anyone else. If I owned livestock that was homosexual or if I had cows that were hallucinating because they were eating bad grass, they're gone.

Kirk #fundie accordingtohoyt.com

Note the language you choose to discuss the issue, and ask yourself why that feels natural to you…

“Deviancy”.

You didn’t say “variety”, which would be a more neutral way of saying the same thing, and it indicates that at some level, you’re disturbed by some of the behavior you’re typifying as “deviant”. Why is that? You could have said “mal-adaptive”, for example, and not come across as disapproving, but here we are.

Follow-on from that is the question of why that term, “deviant”, resonates so well for so many of us when discussing this stuff. No matter how “tolerant” you think you are, most of us would still be choosing to frame this as “deviant”. Why?

I’m not saying you’re wrong, either. Just pointing out how most of us frame this stuff.

I think there’s a reason for this, and it’s rooted in the fact that most humans instinctually shy away from other people who are displaying behavior patterns we identify as being out-of-the-norm, and thus, dangerous. We all like to watch the dancing bears, as they do their tricks out on the stage, but when the night ends, who do we go home with, turn our backs on, and go to sleep next to? It ain’t that “dancing bear” who was up on stage, displaying the entertaining and aberrant behavior, now is it? That individual, outside of the controlled realm of our night-time carouse, is often someone we would not willingly associate, or trust in any deep sense. And, why is that? Because we identify that behavior as being “off”, and something to avoid outside of carefully controlled and limited doses.

A lot of the problem we have today is that the aberrant are trying to force their way into the inner circles of trust in society, and that’s only going to be allowed to go so far, before a reaction sets in. You wonder why the old theme of gay-bashing got going, and was so well-established? Witness the insistent-on-normalization of the new transsexuals. They’re not satisfied with being tolerated, they now insist on being normalized, and that just isn’t that likely to happen. What is more likely is that the experiment with tolerance is going to be ended, and we’re all going to recognize why there are so few societies around the world where this sort of thing is a norm and freely accepted.

What’s so damn sad about it is that when it all comes crashing down, a lot of these folks are only going to have themselves to blame for what happens, because they will have provoked their own pogrom through their demanding behavior. If they can’t be lived with, they won’t be.

Paul Cameron #fundie splcenter.org

Marital sex tends toward the boring end. Generally, it doesn't deliver the kind of sheer sexual pleasure that homosexual sex does. If you isolate sexuality as something solely for one's own personal amusement, if all you want is the most satisfying orgasm you can get, then homosexuality seems too powerful to resist.

Cameron #fundie apologetics.org

You are alone in your house when suddenly you are surrounded by creatures who announce that they are from another planet. You aren't sure that you are awake--this could be a dream, but it feels very real.

Next you are aboard a spaceship, flying through the solar system. The aliens tell you that they have checked in on earth life periodically since it first started. They tell you that one day they abducted a lifeform from earth and changed it. They then returned it to earth.

Your alien captors give you a chance to guess what it was they changed. If you guess wrong, you will be killed. If you guess correctly, you will be returned to earth.

They give you two options. They say that one was designed by them, the other resulted from the Darwinian mechanism:

a) they changed a bacteria by adding a flagellum

b) they changed a beak on a finch on a Gallapagos island, which Darwin later attributed to natural selection.

Which do you choose? Which do you think was more likely to have been designed, and which is more likely to have resulted from the Darwinian mechanism?

Cameron #fundie apologetics.org

The right to marry is not based on the desire to touch someone else's body. It is based on the natural order-- the fact that a man and a woman can become related to each other biologically by having a child. (In cases of infertility, it is merely a matter of parts not working right. The machine still has nature's sanction. In contrast, there is nothing in nature to sanction the mingling of sperm and feces.)

Accelerated Christian Education #fundie independent.co.uk

Teachers at Christian fundamentalist schools in Britain allegedly performed exorcisms on pupils, beat children in religious rituals and “groomed” girls for marriage, according to former students who say they have decided to speak out now after years of suffering in silence.

The former pupils told The Independent such treatment of children was a “terrifying” part of life at schools in the 1980s, 1990s and early 2000s in an environment where they felt too afraid to complain for fear of retribution from school staff, evangelical parents and their close-knit Baptist faith community.

One former pupil alleged that in the 1990s pupils at school assemblies would start convulsing amid “blood curdling screams” as prayers were said for the holy spirit to rid children of demons. The alleged abuse is said to have taken place many years ago at a number of schools in the UK that follow the Accelerated Christian Education (ACE) curriculum, a form of learning that originated in the southern Baptist states of the US.

The former pupils contacted The Independent after reading our June report revealing that some of these schools still teach children that girls must submit to men, homosexuality is unnatural and that creationism is a fact. They said the article jolted their memories of their own experiences.

More than 1,000 4-18 year olds are currently taught in 30 ACE schools in the UK, all of them registered as private institutions. Although the schools are bound by the same safeguarding and child protection regulations as the state sector, former pupils want assurances that monitoring of these schools is more effective than when they attended.

One told The Independent that during his time at an ACE school in the 1990s: “We were told that we were the children of God and the world was out to get us. So we were isolated and couldn’t speak out. There was nobody checking on us. I just took it.”

Pupils who have traditionally attended the schools tend to come from Christian families who follow a fundamentalist interpretation of the Bible. Former pupils said many of the children will have limited interaction with mainstream society.

One former pupil, who attended a school in the 1990s and who has asked not to be named, said: “Exorcisms used to happen at school assemblies sometimes. There would be 20 or so children and perhaps five adults. We were told that the holy spirit would come through children. I started convulsing and I couldn’t stop. Even when I went to bed I kept convulsing. I was terrified, I really thought it was the holy spirit.

“We would all begin convulsing. I remember them screaming blood curdling screams and then we’d all pray rigorously to get the demons out. Teachers would physically push us. They’d lay their hands on us when we prayed and they’d push us down. If you didn’t fall it was said that you weren’t really ‘feeling the Lord’. It was a very dark thing. It really was insanity. It got completely out of control.”

Two other former pupils from the 1990s and 2000s alleged they witnessed exorcisms performed on some occasions at other schools, where children were encouraged to “speak in tongues”.

Allegations from ex-pupils include other potential concerns. At some schools, girls were groomed for marriage from a young age, two former students said. They claimed the grooming was done by the church communities that run the schools and by teachers. Methods were said to include controlling girls’ sexuality and isolating them from boys their own age so they might later be married to much older male members of the church groups.

In some schools they were allegedly encouraged to marry soon after they turned 16, as church leaders told them it was “God’s will”.

One woman, who attended a school between the late 1990s and early 2000s, said: “There was one girl I knew who married someone more than 20 years older. The man she married had known her since she was seven years old and he was 30. She’d sit on his knee when she was a child. He’d played with her when she was a child. Now they’re married. It’s just really creepy.

“As a young girl, you were told you were not allowed to talk to boys your own age, you had to stand six inches apart from boys at all times at schools, teachers told you they’d hit you with a wooden paddle if you kiss a boy. So you didn’t get to meet anyone else and then you’re shown sexual interest for the first time and it’s some creepy old man. It was so sexualised, they were sexualising children.”

Another former pupil who attended an ACE school in the 1990s said a girl at her school had married a man at 16, when he was in his 40s, and who she had met when he began teaching at her school.

She said: “You were told from a young age that your role is to support a man and God will lead you to him. The role of women in these religious groups is quite clear. You’re told God has chosen a husband for you and God will lead this man to you. But in reality, pastors and church leaders guide men to you. It’s grooming.”

She added: “When I was 18, I experienced it. From the age of 14, the church had been pushing me towards a man in the church group who was eight years older. I was actively encouraged to work with him. They were very pushy about marriage, it was very intimidating. It’s very closed and isolating.

“As a girl, you’re left feeling redundant if you don’t get married. You’re told it’s God’s will and you’re just wasting time until you get married – it’s your ultimate goal.”

She said that none of the girls married before the legal age of consent, adding: “They are very keen to ensure nothing illegal happened, but the conditioning was around a long time before that.”

Although all the claims made by former pupils for this article relate to historic incidents, textbooks still used by the schools – and seen by The Independent – raise current concerns.

The books suggest pupils are still taught that “the wife is to obey, respect and submit to the leadership of her husband, serving as a helper to him” and “God desires for [women] to submit to husband.”

Other pupils told The Independent there were also historic concerns about corporal punishment, which they say took on a religious characteristic at the ACE schools.

They claimed children were beaten with a wooden paddle and then forced into a ritualised religious quasi-ceremony in which prayers were said for their salvation in the 1980s and 1990s. They said that the church groups believed at the time that corporal punishment was “God’s will” as it stopped children from sinning.

Corporal punishment was outlawed in UK private schools in 1998 and there is no suggestion the ACE schools breached that law.

David Waldock who attended an ACE school between the ages of 11 and 16 prior to 1998 said: “I was beaten with a cane by teachers while a pupil at an ACE school. The school was in the basement of the church. The cane was kept in the vestry. You would be led up to the vestry to a fold down desk, inside was a cardboard case and in that was the cane.

“The teachers explained to you your ‘offence’. You were told to take your trousers down. Then you were bent over a chair with your trousers down and wearing just your underwear. Then you were caned. And then you prayed for forgiveness.

“It was very ritualised. It was a ritual of confession, administration and prayer for forgiveness.”

One former pupil who attended an ACE school in the 1990s said a four-year-old boy at her school had special needs which caused him to urinate and defecate uncontrollably in class. She claims the child would be routinely taken to be beaten by the headmaster with a wooden paddle to punish this “bad behaviour”.

She says knowing corporal punishment was happening to other children was extremely distressing: “I remember feeling sick. I was so frightened I dug my nails into my hands.”

A 1993 copy of the ACE teachers’ training manual, seen by The Independent, appears to instruct teachers in how to administer corporal punishment when children have “sinned” in ritualised religious ceremonies. It says: “Demerits are for procedural violations; the paddle is for moral violations.”

The manual then lists a step by step process for hitting children.

“Using Bible verses, explain to the child the principles he has violated. Make sure he clearly understands what he has done wrong … position the child so he is leaning forward with his hands on a desk or chair and with his feet spread. Keep the paddle, switch, or belt low to avoid hitting the spine.

“Pray with the child following corporal correction. Review the offense and show him Hebrews 13.17. Request that he ask the Lord to forgive him for _____ (name the violation) and help him obey God’s Word and those people God has placed in his life to train him.”

An updated edition of the teacher training manual compiled after 1998 stops advocating corporal punishment by teachers at ACE schools. Christian Education Europe, an organisational body that runs and promotes ACE schools, say stocks of teaching manuals are regularly checked to ensure they are up to date.

A former pupil who attended an ACE school in the 1990s said: “The kind of people who send their children to schools like these believe in it absolutely. The pastor had absolute power and they could do anything.”

Banana S #fundie answers.yahoo.com

If God ISNT real, who created the earth?? And seriously, the big bang is not real. If it is, how would it have been created? even bigger, did it created 'Everything'? No. God did. Theres proof out there. ask ANY Christian. Praying is the most proof you'll get. If you ask for protection, You'll get it. No matter wht.

Cameron Mayfield #fundie rawstory.com

An Omaha man who stole and publicly burned his lesbian neighbors’ rainbow Pride flag was found guilty of felony hate crime charges on Wednesday.

According to Omaha.com, Douglas County District Judge Duane Dougherty was unmoved by 24-year-old Cameron Mayfield’s insistence that he didn’t know what a rainbow flag stood for when he snatched it off the women’s porch, lit it on fire and paraded back and forth in front of their house as it burned.

James Martin Davis, Mayfield’s attorney, said that his client mistook the pride flag for a “spring ornament” in what he termed a “drunken prank” on March 1, 2015 and not a hate crime.

“Just because the victims are gay doesn’t make it a hate crime,” Davis insisted to the court during Mayfield’s trial.

Prosecutors pointed out that over the course of the 300 yard hike from Mayfield’s house to the home of victims Ariann Anderson and Jessica Meadows-Anderson, Mayfield passed any number of flags and banners that he could have snatched and burned, but chose not to.

Omaha.com reported that Mayfield “hopped a front-yard fence, jumped up to yank down the flag, hopped back over the fence and rushed home. He got a gas can out of his garage, drenched the flag, set it on fire, then walked 300 yards back to the couple’s home.”

The victims said the late-night attack was terrifying. As Mayfield menaced them from the street, they frantically checked their doors and windows, thinking they were about to be attacked in their own home.

In a statement to the court, the couple — who were married in Iowa in 2011 — said, “Had the man who burned our gay pride flag burned our Husker flag, we would have still called the police — but we wouldn’t have felt as threatened,. We wouldn’t have wondered ‘what’s next?’ What became so clear to us after Saturday night, is that the intent really does make a difference. Seeing him waving that burning symbol of a controversial, and inherent part of our being(s) as a minority, in front of our house as a clear message, made it scary. It made it an attack as opposed to a prank.”

Judge Dougherty said that Mayfield’s sentencing will take place in August.

Cameron Ramirez #fundie facebook.com

lol tell me of one scientist that knows exactly what happend back then that you should give oh SO MUCH respect to them, uhhhhhooo NOOOOoo..... ohhh noo.... I said that they just come up with hunches.... oooohhh noooo.... mind-bogglingly stupid and ignorant posts, dude I love ya bro, tell me how an explosion would occur with no oxygen. Acutally dont, this is so rediculous, dude we are the generation when Christ is going to come back for us and when he does your going to remember this message I sent you and your gunna reap what you sow, just flat out facts. DUDE i love you bro, no joke, the best thing is helping and seeing a lost sheep come back to the herd with the Shepherd. Duddde Remeber this and when the time goes, I hope you will have changed your life and way of thinking. I'll pray FOR YOU!!

AV Publications #fundie shop.avpublications.com

Questioning today’s Holy Bible is just as rebellious as questioning ones gender. God did it right the first time. A man-made makeover brings “confusion” and defaces and mutilates God’s creation. Only pride and perversion would propel men to presume that they could improve upon God’s own handiwork. This book will bring Greek and Hebrew study out of the closet for the first time. Tumbling out come the starving skeletons of the authors of Greek and Hebrew study tools, lexicons and editions, the sordid sources from which new versions, such as the NIV, TNIV, NKJV, ESV, NASB, and HCSB take their corrupt words. These are the very same study ‘aids’ which kill a sermon or Bible study when used to ‘define’ a word in the Holy Bible. Lexicon and Bible dictionary authors dug down into the depths of pagan lore, then ransacked the English dictionary to find a match which could burn the Bible word-by-word. The smoke darkens the directing light of the holy scriptures. This book will document that men who want to change and redefine the Holy Bible are likely to want to change anything – even Bible doctrine, their own gender, and their god. For example, Luciferian connections shadow Trench’s New Testament Synonyms and Ginsburg’s TBS Hebrew Masoretic text.

Paul Cameron, Ph.D. #fundie biblebelievers.com

"The Biological Swapmeet

The typical sexual practices of homosexuals are a medical horror story --imagine exchanging saliva, feces, semen and/or blood with dozens of different men each year. Imagine drinking urine, ingesting feces and experiencing rectal trauma on a regular basis. Often these encounters occur while the participants are drunk, high, and/or in an orgy setting. Further, many of them occur in extremely unsanitary places (bathrooms, dirty peep shows), or, because homosexuals travel so frequently, in other parts of the world.

Every year, a quarter or more of homosexuals visit another country.20 Fresh American germs get taken to Europe, Africa and Asia. And fresh pathogens from these continents come here. Foreign homosexuals regularly visit the U.S. and participate in this biological swapmeet."

Cameron L #fundie answers.yahoo.com

People are gay cause they are scared of reality. In reality no-one is gay, but men and women are scared of many things - one being the opposite sex... So you could say that gays aren't actually gay, they are just really really scared of the opposite sex. They deal with this by making up that they don't like the opposite sex, and they try to prove this by going to the extreme of sleeping with the same sex. So gays aren't gay they are just scaredy cats

Kirk Zimpfer #fundie onenewsnow.com

Are you one of those gay bears? As predicted, sexual assaults have skyrocketed since DADT was repealed. There have been outbreaks of HIV since the repeal. All that was predicted and the problems are going to get worse. Only someone devoid of commonsense can't see those problems get worse when members of the military that have sexual attractions to other members are allowed to live and shower with one another.

Rent a brain.

Cameron Mitchel #fundie forum.gateworld.net

Let me just say this, not once has proven science disproven facts about the Bible. But the Bible does disprove certain theories of science. Think about that... proven science doesn't disprove the existence of a deity. You may say that the Big Bang and evolution do, but no, they aren't proven. But, however, the Bible does disprove evolution and the Big Bang. So, as I said, think about that before responding again.

Paul Cameron, Ph. D. #fundie jesus-is-savior.com

The ‘hate crimes’ gays complain about are infrequent and seldom involve more than name-calling or snide remarks. The FBI reported 431 hate crimes against homosexuals for the U.S. in all of 1991. Only one was "confirmed" for Washington, D.C. – yet D.C. gay activists claimed 397 incidents! When pressed, they admitted that at least 366 of these "crimes" consisted of "verbal harassment." (23)

In line with traditional psychiatric opinion, violence goes hand-in-hand with the ‘gay’ lifestyle. Almost all the exposure by homosexuals to violence and disease is encountered in the gay subculture. Most of the murderers in the lifespan study whose sexual orientation could be determined were also homosexual. While violence toward homosexuals is deplorable, most violence involving gays is self-induced (and the gay subculture may export more violence than it absorbs from without).

Aggressive Christianity Missions Training Corps #fundie wistv.com

Christian cult leaders arrested in raid on sex crime charges, death of child
Published: Wednesday, August 23rd 2017, 11:35 am EDT
Updated: Wednesday, August 23rd 2017, 11:40 am EDT

SACRAMENTO, CA (KCRA/KOAT/CNN) - Four members of a religious sect in New Mexico are now in jail. Two of them are accused of sexual abuse involving minors.

The others are charged in connection with the death of a child. The group is called "Aggressive Christianity Missions Training Corps."

It's a religious sect that was founded in Sacramento in the early 1980s. They left the state, after losing a lawsuit to a former member who says the group forced her to give up three of her children.

That woman, Maura Schmierer, spoke Tuesday about the charges facing the four sect members.

"At that time, I didn't think it was a cult," Schmierer said. "No. Nobody in there thinks of themselves as being in a cult."

She and her husband were the third and fourth members, but it eventually grew to about 30, living in an isolated compound.

"They would want us to beat the children," Schmierer said. "They wanted me to whip my young child, who was under 2 years old with a belt, because he didn't use the toilet."

Schmierer defied that.

"They changed my name to Forsaken, and they put me out in a shed in the backyard," she said.

That's when she got out and worked to regain custody of her four kids. Schmierer talked with KCRA 3 News then, in the late '80s, saying, "I was afraid. I was under their influence. I believed that if I left I would lose out on eternal salvation."

The remaining Aggressive Christianity Missions Training Corps members moved in 1989, eventually settling in New Mexico. Four members were arrested Sunday during a raid.

Member Stacey Miller in now in jail. Court documents show her son died after she refused to get him medical treatment in 2014.

The group's co-founder, Deborah Green, faces charges that include sexual penetration of a minor. Her son-in-law, Peter Green, face more than 100 charges of that same crime, and Joshua Green, Deborah Green's son, failure to report a birth.

After leaving the group in the '80s, a court awarded Schmierer more than $1 million - money she's yet to see. Now, more than 30 years after she got out, Schmierer still shutters watching Deborah Green.

"The same feelings come up," she said. "I get a knot in my stomach."

She hopes these arrests are the end of the religious sect.

"It's time that their ministry is shut down," she said.

In a statement, Aggressive Christianity Missions Training Corps calls the charges "totally false."

The Rev. William H. Grimes #fundie conservatism.referata.com

Sermon 12: Kerrigan Skelly Debunked
By Rev. William H. Grimes
I went on a brief hiatus so that I could start researching for my new “Debunked” series. Let’s talk about the false preacher Kerrigan Skelly. Skelly is a fairly well known street preacher, known for his fire and brimstone style and megaphones as well as attention-seeking signs. Mr. Skelly thinks he’s doing the will of God. However, all he’s doing is dooming lost souls to eternal hellfire. “If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.” (1 John 1:9)
He’s an Armenian, so he thinks that sinless perfection on Earth is possible. He’s correct that sin-everyday “Christians” are heretics, but he’s wrong in that sin can be completely eradicated from one’s soul. Skelly himself says he’s totally without sin. 1 John 1:9 says “If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.” We are to strive to cease sinning, but we can only be perfect in our resurrected bodies which are perfect. However, he also believes that queers and transvestites can be redeemed. Unfortunately, this does not seem to be the case due to conversion therapy failing. Homosexuality may be totally incurable and these souls may be eternally lost. However, for the rest of us, Christ’s sacrifice on the cross is not IN VAIN AND IS NOT LIMITED TO SINS OF THE PAST!!!!! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! OWWWWWWWWW! HALLELUJAH! SAY AMEN IN THE HOUSE OF GOD!
Christ only forgives those who are truly repentant. No pastor or priest can forgive sins, and drinking a sip of wine and eating a cracker won’t forgive sins. ONLY TRUE REPENTANCE CAN FORGIVE SINS!
Kerrigan Skelly loves Wicked Donny, and probably also voted for Mor(m)on Willard in 2012. He wears a long beard and he’s effeminate! Skelly once preached outside of a Taylor Swift concert and inadvertently admitted to lusting after the flesh! He’s also a glutton! Even by his own Arminianism, he’s going to roast in Hell for telling the unsaved that Christ is in a box and he cannot save His followers who are TRULY repentant! IF YOU LOVE GOD, YOU WILL REJECT THE WICKED HEATHEN KERRIGAN SKELLY AND PRAY THAT HIS APOSTATE SELF WILL RECEIVE THE TRUE GOSPEL OF CHRIST! SKELLY HAS HARDENED FAR TOO MANY HEARTS AGAINST GOD AND HE HAS SUED THOSE WHO ATTACKED HIM FOR MONEY! KERRIGAN SKELLY IS A FRAUD AND A HUCKSTER WHO HATH NOT THE LORD AND USES THE LORD FOR MONETARY GAIN AND HIS OWN EGO!
Next time, I’ll cover Transgenderism Debunked. God’s people said AMEN!

The Rev. William H. Grimes #fundie #sexist simplychristian.fandom.com

Sermon 14: False God

By The Rev. William H. Grimes

“Wherefore, my dearly beloved, flee from idolatry.”-1 Corinthians 10:14

“Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry.”-Colossians 3:5

“They that observe lying vanities forsake their own mercy.”-Jonah 2:8

”Turn ye not unto idols, nor make to yourselves molten gods: I am the LORD your God.”-Leviticus 19:4

Last Friday, sinful seductress Taylor Swift unleashed her wicked album “Lover” onto the public. I was at my local Target that day, and the deluxe edition albums in the display up front were being snatched by the second by misguided teenage girls and young women. I also believe I saw a weird hipster looking sodomite guy buy a copy. I’m going to post a more thorough analysis of this abomination unto the Lord on this site, but I wanted to focus on the most blasphemous song on the album, which is called “False God.”

This song denies the divinity of Christ! It promotes sexuality in such a blasphemous and heinous way!!! THIS IS A DISGUSTING DISGRACE!!! SAY AMEN IN THE HOUSE OF THE LIVING GOD!!!!! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!

The chorus says: But we might just get away with it / Religion's in your lips / Even if it's a false god / We'd still worship / We might just get away with it /The altar is my hips / Even if it's a false god /We'd still worship this love

What is this wicked heathen seductress saying? She wants to dupe this randy young man into worshipping at the altar of her body and in particular her succulent hips!!!!!!!!!! SHE THINKS HER HIPS ARE SUPERIOR TO THE LIVING GOD WHO ESTABLISHED ALL, SWIFT THINKS THAT HER WICKED HIPS ARE MORE POWERFUL THAN THE KING OF KINGS AND THE LORD OF LORDS! THIS IS AN ABOMINABLE FARCE! ARE WEAK SAUCE SOUTHERN BAPTIST PARENTS LETTING THEIR YOUNG GIRLS LISTEN TO THIS SMUT?!!!! IT’S ATROCIUS! ARE THEIR PASTORS APPROVING OF THIS?!!!!!!! IT’S HERESY!

YEEEEEEEEOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!

In the song, she also says: I know heaven's a thing/ I go there when you touch me, honey and also: They say the road gets hard and you get lost / When you’re led by blind faith, blind faith

IF YOU HAVE BLIND FAITH IN THE WICKED HARLOT TAYLOR SWIFT INSTEAD OF DURABLE AND TESTED FAITH IN THE LORD JESUS CHRIST, YOU WILL ENDURE ETERNAL HELLFIRE AND ROASTING FOREVER AND GNASHING THE TEETH AND AN UNQUENCHABLE THIRST FOR EVEN A DROP OF WATER! YOU WILL NOT HAVE IT BECAUSE YOU CHOSE ETERNAL SEPARATION FROM GOD WITH LUCIFER AND SWIFT INSTEAD OF TRUSTING THE LORD JESUS CHRIST AND MAKING HIM YOUR PERSONAL LORD AND SAVIOR! IF YOU HAVEN’T ACCEPTED HIM YET, WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR?!!!! DO IT NOW!!!! God’s people said AMEN!

Charlie Kirk and Eric Metaxas #fundie friendlyatheist.patheos.com

In a bizarre conversation in which both participants have no clue what they’re talking about, conservative activist Charlie Kirk and Christian author Eric Metaxas talked about atheism while building all kinds of men made out of straw.

You can hear it around the 50:32 mark:


KIRK: … I go as far to say that atheism, in certain senses, can be a religion, and people disagree at this. They say, “Well, Charlie they have no theology.” I say, “Hold on a second. Atheists have a agreed upon belief in afterlife: nothing. They have agreed upon belief in a deity: nothing. And they proselytize and evangelize moreso than Christians do.”

I get more people approaching me to try to convert to atheism than almost any Christian does. And there’s a lot of different reasons for this, but I always challenge the atheist, I say, “If you actually believed what you say you believe, why does it matter? You got like 38 years and five days left, and then you’re just a clump of cells, dust, and then you’re gonna deteriorate into the abyss. You should live it up. You should do as much drugs and indulgence as you possibly can.”

And atheists are divided into two different buckets. There’s agnostics who call themself atheist because they think it’s punk rock. Then there’s deeply unhappy people that have been scarred by religion, and they think they’re too smart for religion, and I say there, I don’t have enough faith to be an atheist. I think it takes unbelievable philosophical calisthenics to believe this is all just an act of randomness. In fact, I think it’s actually rooted in hubris.

METAXAS: Actually, I have been talking about this a lot lately. I actually believe it’s… Let’s put it this way: If God created the universe — which He did — and if He created us in His image — which He did — it is effectively, demonstrably impossible to live as though He didn’t exist. So when people talk about that, it’s a lot of words. There is no one who has the ability to actually live that way… When you have people talking about that, and… they’re implying that everything is random, life has no meaning, there is no good and evil, they don’t live that way, and they don’t dare live that way…

Their mistakes are so obvious, you would find good rebuttals on the first link in any Google search of their arguments.
But just to state the obvious, atheism isn’t a religion any more than “off” is a TV channel. Being a fan of your local sports team is far more “religious” than atheism is. We’re not nihilists either. Many atheists have personal philosophies about why they want to make the world a better place and why they want to do good — hurting other people and hurting ourselves would get in the way of all that. You don’t need fear of the supernatural to be a decent person.

To pretend life is only “randomness,” or to equate atheism with cockiness, or to assume atheists have nothing to live for means Kirk has never actually read about or spoken to them. He just makes up his own reality, then shares it like it’s gospel.

A lot of atheists are vocal because we have to be. As white evangelical Christians control the government and right-wing conservatives push idiotic arguments for public policy that hurt many Americans, it’s important to speak out about the harm both groups cause.

Metaxas, of course, believes everything Kirk is saying, and then proceeds to use that straw man to suggest real atheists don’t exist because they can’t possibly live that way. (It’s true. Those atheists don’t exist because the two guys just conjured them up out of nowhere.)

It’s not the first time Metaxas has perpetuated these myths about atheists.

He once wrote a book about “miracles” — which included things like the fine-tuning argument and the improbability of life, which have been countered and rebutted many times over — and then said of his critics that they exhibited a “real intolerance and a lack of open-mindedness.” More recently, he claimed that a solar eclipse was proof of God.

But evangelical Christians, who treat him like a supposed intellectual, rarely push back on any of this. Like Kirk, they just accept the lies because listening to actual atheists is apparently never an option.

David J. Stewart #fundie jesusisprecious.org

You'll never hear Pat Robertson, Ray Comfort, nor Kirk Cameron speak evil against the hellish Catholic religion. Catholics believe in being born-again. Did you know that? Albeit, their understanding of the term is totally unbiblical, flawed, and a false gospel. Ray Comfort and Kirk Cameron are publicly silent about Catholicism. I'm not. The Catholic Church is straight from Hell, and you're going to Hell if you think keeping sacraments, getting wet in a baptistery, or confessing your sins to some heathen priest saturated with sins himself will get you into Heaven when you die!

I don't condemn anyone, for the Bible condemns all mankind as guilty sinners (Romans 3:19; 14:10). The Devil is working relentlessly to bring damnable heresies into our churches, to corrupt people's minds and lead them into apostasy away from the Lord. I hate all modern Bible versions for that very reason. Kirk Cameron and Ray Comfort use corrupt Bible versions, so it's not surprising that their doctrines are also corrupt. Corrupt Bibles lead to corrupt teachings, which leads to corrupt living, and eventually Hell if that person doesn't get born-again!

Kirk Cameron is without question an awesome actor and has starred in some amazing movies, like Fireproof. But the bigger picture is that all these ecumenical ministers and celebrities turned Christian, are supportive of the New World Order's agenda to unite the world's various religions into one. By remaining silent about the evils of the Catholic religion, they are all part of the problem. Kirk Cameron won't criticize the Pope nor the Catholic religion, which is blatantly a false religion one billion strong. Everyone is afraid to speak out against the Catholic Church. Pope Benedict XVI said in 2005 that people can be saved even without having any Biblical faith. It's sad, but true, in my opinion Ray Comfort is just trying to make a living, having found his niche in the religious world; but they won't tell the real truth, i.e., that Catholics are all going to Hell in their unbelief.

In The Evidence Bible, Ray Comfort says that there are millions of unsaved people amongst Catholics and Protestants. The false implication is that some Catholics are saved within the Catholic religion. Ray Comfort and Kirk Cameron are weak-kneed when it comes to standing up against the almighty Catholic religion. You don't have to wonder where I stand... the Catholic Church is Satanic!!!

Lest he should offend any Catholics, on pg. 1358 Ray Comfort states...

“There are millions of Catholics and Protestants who have never been born again and need to hear the gospel”

SOURCE: THE EVIDENCE BIBLE, by Ray Comfort, pg. 1358; 2003, Bridge-Logos Publishers, Orlando, Florida

Although that is a true statement by Mr. Comfort, the fact of the matter is that Catholics by doctrine are ALL going straight to Hell, because they are trusting upon a works-based salvation (i.e., self-righteousness). In sharp contrast, most Protestant churches hold to a Free Grace view of the Gospel. I just don't understand why, or how, Ray Comfort would bring Protestant believers down to the same level as the damnable Catholic religion. The fact of the matter is that there are millions of saved Protestants; but there are NO SAVED CATHOLICS if they are genuine Catholics.

Why doesn't Ray Comfort speak the truth... there are over ONE BILLION unsaved Catholics in the world!!!

Ray Comfort and Kirk Cameron Use Modern Corrupt Bibles

Romans 10:9 in the New International Version (NIV) deceitfully teaches the hellish doctrine of Lordship Salvation. Instead of teaching “That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus”; the NIV says you have to “confess Jesus is Lord” to be saved. Blasphemy! So you see, the Bible that you are using means everything. The NIV preaches an entirely different Gospel than the inspired King James Bible does. Ray Comfort and Kirk Cameron are using corrupted Bibles, as are John MacArthur, Max Lucado, Rick Warren, Pat Robertson, Billy Graham and all the other apostates and enemies of God today.

My goal is not to be unkind against Mr. Cameron. I did not publish this article to attack him on a personal level. I love everywhere, including Ray Comfort and Kirk Cameron; but I love Jesus first and foremost and I must expose false prophets who corrupt the Gospel message. Ray Comfort and Kirk Cameron teach the heresy of Lordship Salvation. Cameron promotes John MacArthur's Study Bible on his website, Mr. Lordship Salvation himself. MacArthur is an unsaved Modernist.

The common denominator between all these men are that they all use modern corrupted versions of the Bible. I only trust and use the precious, preserved, and inspired King James Bible. They all use either the hellish New International Version [NIV] or the demonic New King James Bible [NKJB], which are BOTH based upon the heretical Greek text of Westcott and Hort (upon which the Jehovah's Witnesses demonic cult also base their New World Translation). The truth is in plain site if you want it. Most people don't want THE TRUTH.

Most of the false prophets teaching the heresy of Lordship Salvation are from California (John Mac Arthur, Ray Comfort, Kirk Cameron, Jack Chick, et cetera). California is a hotbed of false prophets! Lordship Salvation is the teaching that a person must stop living in sin to be saved. In Jack Chick's case, he's a bit more subtle, teaching that it's not enough to admit one's sinnership to be saved; but a person must also be willing to stop living in sin to be saved. These are all damnable heresies that destroy the gift of God. You don't give up anything to be saved; Jesus gave up everything to pay for our sins. Jesus came into the world to SAVE SINNERS! If you want to be saved, then repent toward God by placing your faith in Jesus Christ, the Son of God, to forgive your sins. It's that simple. God will take care of the rest from there.

The issue is not about Kirk Cameron; but rather, the corrupt Bibles, corrupt religious teachers, corrupt plans of salvation, corrupt organizations, corrupt televangelists, corrupt Contemporary Christian Music [CCM] singers... as with most religious people today, kindly but truthfully said, Kirk Cameron is CORRUPTED!

Johanna Michaelsen #fundie lighthousetrailsresearch.com

While many churches have switched from Halloween activities to alternative events on Halloween such as Harvest parties, countless Christians still allow their children to celebrate Halloween with door-to-door trick or treating and dressing up in scary costumes. Christian actor Kirk Cameron (Left Behind films and Fireproof) has come out publicly defending Halloween. In an interview in a popular online Christian magazine, Cameron stated that Christians “should have the biggest Halloween party on your block.” Cameron said he had no problem with Christians dressing up in devil, ghost, and other traditional Halloween costumes because they could do it as a way to witness to unbelievers.
But is this church-sponsored horror a good idea? There are a number of reasons it is not. For one thing, terror can kill. When my husband was a teenager, the family next door to him lost their toddler one Halloween when the little one opened the door to trick-or-treaters. Their hideous appearance and shrieks so traumatized the child that he literally dropped dead on the spot. That may be a rare example, but the fact remains that terrorizing children is dangerous.
Church-sponsored horror isn’t a new phenomenon. My husband’s Lutheran church in New York always sponsored a “Chamber of Horrors” when he was a boy, complete with fluorescent skeletons, scary pop-ups, peeled grapes to simulate dead eyeballs, and a bowl of cold spaghetti that was supposed to be . . . well, you know. Anyway, they made you stick your hand into it, and any number of kids spent the rest of the night throwing up.

Peter LaBarbera #fundie americansfortruth.com

TAKE ACTION:

1) Call or write Sen. Mark Kirk (R-IL) [202-224-2854; Chicago 312-886-3506; online Comment Form HERE] and urge him to stop rewarding anti-Christian bigotry. Ask him to return this “Freedom Award” from the hateful anti-Christian homosexual group, Equality Illinois–which in 2012 launched a failed pressure campaign to kick Chick-fil-A restaurants out of Illinois.

2) Call or write the Republican National Committee [Contact Form HERE] and its Chairman, Reince Priebus [202-863-8500; choose ext. "1"], and urge them to stand firm against the aggressive Homosexual Lobby, which is targeting Christian leaders and businesses like Chick-fil-A for demonization. Tell Priebus that when Republicans like Sen. Mark Kirk embrace Democratic-type social liberalism, it only deflates the pro-family GOP grassroots. Lastly, urge Priebus to PUBLICLY oppose ENDA, the radical Employment Non-Discrimination Act. Thank Chairman Priebus for being publicly pro-life–but urge him also to make the case against “Big Gay Government” (e.g., ENDA)–and Obama’s push to nationalize “same-sex marriage”–as part of the RNC’s regular public Talking Points.

Rev. Dr. Ronald E. Williams and Hephzibah House staff #fundie #psycho #sexist wndu.com

Hephzibah House describes itself as a private Christian boarding school for teenage girls. The school says its mission is to take in troubled girls and help them with God's love.

But dozens of women who were students there say what they experienced was not love but abuse.

"There was no free talking, no giggling, no pillow fights, no making friends," Mary Kumar explained.

She lived at Hephzibah House from 2007 to 2009. She says students were expected to do heavy labor in addition to their Bible-based education.

"A lot of on the floor work," she said. "We had to work on our knees on the floor for three or four hours every day, so when I left I had very thick callouses on my knees that would crack and bleed."

Kumar also says she didn't get proper medical care while staying at Hephzibah House.

"I had this weird ear infection while I was there because they wouldn't let us use Q-tips and I didn't have a lot of time to clean myself because of our three-minute showers. ... My ear erupted down the side of my face ... and that wasn't really given a lot of focus," she recalled.

But Kumar says other medical problems were given too much focus.

"They did an invasive exam to see why I couldn't go to the bathroom. When that could've been easily fixed with Metamucil or putting us on a better diet," she said. "... I saw that with a lot of other students. They would have these horrible illnesses or sicknesses and they would be made fun of or treated like garbage, but for things like that we were given forced pelvic exams or forced anal exams ... and that doesn't make any sense to me."

Kumar says the neglect was beyond physical, leaving her unprepared for the real world.

"They really dumbed us down there, because women aren't really supposed to have a lot of thoughts or dreams besides becoming a mother. I was 18 playing dress up. What do normal 18-year-olds do?" she said.

She's not the only one who says she suffered at Hephzibah House. 16 News Now was contacted by more than a dozen women with similar experiences. There may be more.

"The number of victims that have come forward is about 300," Kumar said.

There are accusations of abuse dating back to the 1980s.

Eighteen-year-old Olivia Lambright just left the school last June. She says she was spanked during her five years there.

"When you start spanking all the way down to your thighs, you have bruises on your thighs instead just on your bottom. I would say that's going too far. But the one thing that they would tell me was, 'This is the way God wants us to do it, and this is your fault this is happening,'" Lambright explained.

She says humiliation is a daily part of life in the dorms and at church for Hephzibah House students.

"At night you had a 10:30 bathroom break and a 2 a.m. bathroom break, and there will be times where they take the 10:30 and they miss the 2 a.m. bathroom break. And the girls are having accidents ... and that's what happened to me," she said. "I had an accident and they were like, 'Oh! You have to wear diapers now.'"

Lambright told 16 News Now she had to carry a pink mat to church after that incident, which she felt was done to humiliate her.

With so many woman contacting 16 News Now, we reached out to Hephzibah House. The school gave us written statements refuting the claims.

In response to the accusation that they conduct child labor, the school said it does require students to do daily chores but does not overwork them.

When it comes to paddling the girls too hard, the school said they have not used corporal correction for years. They also refuted claims that they keep students locked in a basement.

Dr. Ron Williams founded Hephzibah House in 1971. 16 News Now requested an interview with him, and he agreed to send us prerecorded responses to our questions.

Williams said the school and its staff do the Lord's work in line with fundamentalist Baptist teachings.

"There are myriads of troubled teenage girls in this world, and we can't help all of them, but, praise God, we can help some. And we've received some from every one of the 50 states and from some foreign countries because of missionaries having trouble with their daughters," Williams said.

He said he is stumped by the abuse accusations.

"The leaders of most of our critics, when they left our ministry, were very cordial, friendly, amiable. Would call us, stay in touch, invite us to their weddings, so now they are leading a whole group against us ... which is really inexplicable to us," he said.

But while Williams tours the country speaking to churchgoers about home and family, his son Ben is speaking out against his father's school.

"The things that are happening at Hephzibah House are definitely cultish. Are they 100% cult? No. But are they cultish? Absolutely. And that is why there's a fear, that is why there's devout loyalty. ... There's good people there to this day ... but when you get captured into that culture, it takes years for you to literally deprogram," Ben Williams explained.

He says he wants the community to know about the physical and emotional abuse he both saw and endured growing up at Hephzibah House. That includes issues he says the school has with the quality of food being served.

"We would get cases of, banana boxes full of dented cans that had no labels. The girls would open them up, and they would just starting dumping. And yes, every once in a while ... they deny this but every once in a while a can of dog food would get dropped in. That is true. So 'surprise soup' would be multiple different soups dumped in, stir it up, and that was the slop that they were served," Ben Williams said.

The Kosciusko County health inspector documented a formal complaint about the food quality just last month, including that students were "served something resembling dog food" and that they "became ill multiple times from food and was then shamed for being ill".

In addition to documenting the complaint, the health inspector also cited Hephzibah House for a few of its procedures involving food preparations.

[…]

Still, without proof of a crime, law enforcement officials say little can be done. Kosciusko County Sheriff Kyle Dukes says that of allegations investigated in the past 20 years, no criminal charges were ever filed.

Hephzibah House told 16 News Now the Department of Child Services visited in January and nothing was found. We have been unable to get that confirmed with DCS.

There is no agency overseeing the quality of education or care at the school because Indiana law allows for boarding schools to operate without a license due to a religious exemption.

[…]

Hephzibah House tells 16 News Now there are currently four girls enrolled at the reform school.

Willie Robertson #fundie rawstory.com

‘Duck Dynasty’ star urges Christians to convert atheist friends with Nicolas Cage movie

One of the stars of TV’s “Duck Dynasty” urged Christians to take their non-believing friends to see an upcoming Nicolas Cage movie, saying it might convert them.

Willie Robertson recorded a short promotional video that was posted Friday morning to the Facebook page set up for “Left Behind,” an upcoming feature film based on the popular religion-themed book series that depicts the end times.

“Like most Christians, my family and I can truly say that we’re excited about the soon return of Jesus, and I’m sure, if you’ve been watching the news lately, you know that that return could be any day from now,” Robertson said.

He said the film, which he described as “an action-packed thriller that will take viewers on a wild ride to the day of the Rapture,” would encourage atheists and non-Christians to convert.

“It’s a warning to those, if it happened today, would be left behind, and I believe people are going to make that life-changing decision to follow Christ on the way home from the theater on Oct. 3,” Robertson said. “Let’s all make sure we bring some friends and family to see this movie – people who need to see to believe.”

He then directed viewers to the film’s website, where he said they could find information on buying group tickets or purchasing merchandise such as “cool clothes.”

The movie is a remake of the 2002 version starring former “Growing Pains” sitcom star Kirk Cameron.

Some conservative Christians complained about the casting of Cage, suspicious that he might be a non-believer – although “there is speculation that he is a Roman Catholic.”

Navaros #fundie m.imdb.com

[Regarding Kirk Cameron's Saving Christmas]

"Save Christmas from what or whom?"

Save Christmas from the secular humanist/liberal/generally evil people who try to suppress it.

"Christmas is at zero risk of disappearing"

Are you kidding me? Most corporations (i.e. that includes stores, restaurants, all forms of media, advertisers, tv shows and filmmakers, etc.) suppress the word Christmas and/or try to remove Jesus' birth from its meaning. They are certainly trying to make Christmas disappear, and they have largely succeeded in making it disappear from anywhere inside of the ungodly spaces that they control.

Navaros #fundie imdb.com

(after someone on the Kirk Cameron board referred to God as him/her)

God is a HIM and HE has a BIG WHOPPING, HOLY, RIGHTEOUS PENIS.

He is abhorred by your misrepresentation of Him in the blasphemous quoted statement, and also by your implication that He approves of your evil worldviews and lifestyles (actually, He sends evildoers who abide by such evil worldviews & lifestyles straight to Hell after they come to His Judgement Seat).

Ray Comfort #fundie christianpost.com

Ray Comfort, author of God Doesn't Believe in Atheists, alongside fellow Christian and actor Kirk Cameron (Growing Pains) will butt heads with two ardent nonbelievers using only scientific fact in a debate sponsored by ABC. Comfort says that the evidence will “absolutely” confirm that there is a God.

"Most people equate atheism with intellectualism," explained Comfort in a statement, "but it's actually an intellectual embarrassment. I am amazed at how many people think that God's existence is a matter of faith. It's not, and I will prove it at the debate – once and for all. This is not a joke. I will present undeniable scientific proof that God exists.”

[In the debate, Comfort extensively quoted the bible as proof, and Cameron used the Crocoduck argumen]

holocaust21 #fundie holocaust21.wordpress.com

9 Reasons Why Child Porn Laws Are Evil

When I started writing this article I couldn’t believe how many reasons I could come up with as to why child pornography laws are totally wrong. So without further ado, it’s time to abolish this offence from our legal statutes; and here’s no less than 9 reasons why:-

1. Child abuse images are completely legal, while child porn images are not

Imagine, hypothetically, you came across a video on the internet that featured a seedy man in a dark room with a big, sharp hammer. The man had a look of pure evil in his eyes and in a corner of the room hudled a young girl. The man slowly took a step towards her, ‘I’m going to hit you’ he said softly. The girl had a look of terror on her face. He shook his hammer in the air and she reflexively put her hands around her head. ‘I’m going to kill you’ he said louder taking another step. He lifted his hammer high up in the air. Suddenly the child made a desperate bid to run away but he grabbed her and struck a blow to her skull. Her skull could be seen to be smashed and blood poured out. The camera showed him hitting her again and again and again until there was nothing left other than a lifeless decapitated mess on the floor. Then the video ended.

Would you have not thought that such a horrific video would be illegal and probably classed as level 5 child porn (the most severe)?

Think again.

In reality extreme child abuse images like those depicted above are completely legal. Why? Because it is not sexual. It is horrific violence. In our society violence and abuse are celebrated while sex, love and affection are criminalised.

A man possessing bath photos of 5 year old girls would receive years, even decades, in prison. A man possessing the hypothetical video above would not receive even a single day behind bars.

And this is the legal situation that our hateful and vindictive politicians support.

As Orwell might have said: Our politicians have redefined Child Abuse to be Child Love and Child Love to be Child Abuse.

2. Child porn is not child abuse

Not only are the most horrific child abuse images completely legal and not considered to be child porn, but most of what counts as child pornography does not even depict child abuse.

Let us examine the definitions of child pornography under the COPINE scale (or SAP scale as it is more accurately referred to), this is the scale typically used by the police when measuring the ‘severity’ of a child porn image. It goes from level 1 (least severe) to level 5 (most severe).

By examining the definitions of child porn on the COPINE scale we find that child pornography images levels 1 – 4 are categorically NOT abuse images. This is because level 1 covers bath photos and levels 2 – 4 cover sexual activity only, no mention of violence is made. As we know from the RIND meta study, which analysed some 59 other studies it found that sexual activity with children does not usually cause harm, contrary to contemporary feminist dogma.

Any image in which pain is implied is automatically elevated to level 5 on the COPINE scale. This does not, however, imply that level 5 images always involve pain. This is because any image with an animal involved in any way at all would also count as level 5. Nor does it imply that any image involving pain is level 5 – as discussed above an image of a child being brutally murdered would not be considered child pornography at all despite that being the most horrific thing that can happen to a person.

3. Child porn is a thought crime

Child porn is a thought crime. It involves no actions. Merely being a curious individual and seeking possession of a single image can result in decades behind bars. This is the same way that possession of a blank book would have resulted in 20 years behind bars in the novel 1984. The creation of thought crime legislation is the primary indicator of a full blown totalitarian state.

No harm is ever committed in having thoughts, even bad or dangerous ones. If people cannot express and discuss their thoughts then they will in many cases suffer in silence and in other cases explode in outbursts of extreme violence such as, for example, virgin killers like Elliot Rodger.

4. Criminalising any image is an affront to democracy

Freedom of speech and freedom of expression are essential components of a democracy.

Child pornography laws undermine freedom of expression. Possessing and distributing child porn is free expression.

The consequences of undermining freedom of expression cannot be understated. A country without freedom of expression cannot be a democracy. Without an informed and educated electorate the voters are merely sheep voting based only on what they are allowed to know. However, if they were provided with the full facts then they would have come to wildly different voting decisions.

In essence the society we live in today is a pseudo-democracy. A society where an uninformed and ignorant electorate vote. This leads to tyranny. Already we can see this with the massive escalation of child porn and child sex sentences worldwide and its associated age of consent dogma. The belief that sexual activity with anyone below the age of consent is always horrific abuse is caused in part by the criminalisation of child pornography i.e. the removal of evidence that breaking age of consent laws does not cause harm in and of itself.

It is modern day book burning.

As older folk who lived in more tolerant times die out the society becomes increasingly ignorant to the point that reality becomes entirely warped, as is happening with the Savile affair in Britain, including absurd claims that he engaged in necrophilia.

The road to tyranny is then well and truly laid.

5. Banning one thing leads to the ‘slippery slope’ effect of banning everything

As soon as one thing is banned it then becomes acceptable to start banning more things until even you are classed as a serious organised criminal, sex offender or terrorist (if you aren’t already).

This is already happening with the expanding definition of child pornography. For example, in the UK it was initially limited to children under 16. Then it got expanded to ‘children’ under 18, despite the age of consent still being 16. Laws were then introduced to criminalise not only ‘real’ images but also cartoon drawings. So-called ‘extreme pornography’ which included adults engaging in bestiality or BDSM also became criminalised. And now, images of women pretending to be raped is in the process of being criminalised.

This of course ignores the onslaught of anti-terrorist legislation, which makes glorifying terrorism illegal and has some extreme double standards. The terrorist murder of Osama Bin Laden for instance, glorified by the mainstream media, was not seen as criminal whilst calling for genocidal politicians from the American or British regimes to be hung, drawn and quartered would be. And let us not even get into the minefield of ‘hate speech’ legislation – such as ‘anti-racist’ speech…

The bottom line is that banning has become endemic to our political class. They will only ever be satisfied once everything is criminalised and the entire population live in cages.

6. Child porn laws undermine the rule of law

The rule of law is essential to a peaceful society where random violence is minimised. The state must not be able to arbitrarily arrest people just because they can. There must be the appropriate checks and balances.

Child pornography laws allow the arbitrary arrest of just about anyone. Anyone who has ever used the internet can easily be raided by the police on suspicion of possessing or distributing child pornography. All that is needed for a conviction is for the police to find one single thumbnail image. Such an image can often be placed in a defendant’s possession without their knowledge as a consequence of computer viruses, accidental website hits as well as vengeful colleagues, friends and wives who deliberately frame an individual. Even if the defendent accidentally came across the image and deleted it immediately the police can still find it, charge and convict the man for a thought crime offence.

This process can also lead to ‘selective enforcement’ in other words those who stand up against the prevailing ideology or police state would be automatically raided by the police and likely found to be in possession of child porn. On the otherhand, high ranking paedofinder general politicians would never be raided even though they probably possess more child porn than anyone else (they need to behave like paedofinder generals to reduce their risk of arrest, afterall).

7. Child porn laws are so excessively broad that they effectively rape children of their childhood

Child pornography laws are now so broad that even non-nude images can count as child porn. The paedohysterical atmosphere has resulted in a climate so extreme that schools frequently ban parents from photographing their own children. This means that youth growing up today will not have any photos of their childhood. Their childhood is essentially stolen from them by the police state. And worst of all, children are prevented from learning about life (like playing on the streets, as kids used to do) and from forming normal relationships with adults (especially men).

In essence, child pornography laws and our paedohysterical atmosphere effectively rape children of their childhood by stealing from them what past generations took for granted.

8. Banning child porn allows child rapists and child abusers to walk free

It is a well known fact that police officers are lazy. They like to go for the easiest to lynch people. There is no one easier to lynch than sexting teenagers. Often unaware that what they are doing is even illegal they become an easy catch for the paedophile unit. The propagation of child pornography and age of consent laws means that making arrests is like shooting fish in a barrel. And amongst the fish, big bad fish can hide and not be shot because they are not the targets.

Criminalising low-level, harmless consensual sexual behaviour results in kind and harmless individuals being piled up in prison whilst real violent thugs and rapists are free to abuse and rape again.

9. Those who seek to ban child pornography are all paedophiles themselves anyway

Much like many in the Nazi party were homosexuals many of our legislators, especially anti child pornography legislators, are infact paedophiles themselves. Take the arrest of Cameron’s close aide Patrick Rock on suspected child pornography charges as an example of this.

One arrest you say? Just a bad apple? How about the revelations that some senior cabinet ministers in Tony Blair’s former government were believed to be fapping off to child porn? Not only that, but the government issued D-Notices to the mainstream media to stop them reporting on the story. And they all obeyed.

What does this, in essence, mean? It means that what is commonly called ‘paedophilia’ is really normal male sexuality. It means that our politicians are all a bunch of hypocrites who criminalise normal male sexuality in order to endlessly increase their power. And then they break their own laws. They are opportunistic bastards.

Already more and more people are starting to talk about ‘paedophiles in high places’. I can only but guess that some of this is because the population are getting sick of paedophile hysteria yet they are too scared or too stupid to point out that the laws themselves are the problem.

Pastor Gene Lingerfelt #fundie patheos.com

Christian Pastor Says Men Who Play Video Games Are Losers Possessed by a “Retarded Spirit”

Hemant Mehta

Usually, when we see a pastor complaining about video games, it’s one of those retro clips from the 1980s. This one, courtesy of Faith Christian Center in Texas, is from just a couple of months ago.

Pastor Gene Lingerfelt goes off on men who play Xbox, blaming “that retarded spirit” for why beautiful young women in the church can’t find dates.

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And don’t even get me started on the Xbox. And all of that. If you have callouses on your thumbs, you’re a loser. If you’re more than 18 years old and you’re still jackin’ around with that stuff… [does “L” gesture].

I curse that spirit in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth.

There are young gals in this church. Beautiful, beautiful, beautiful young gals, and you know why they can’t get a date? ‘Cause that retarded spirit got onto young men.

Amen.

Some of you women, you have my permission — blame me. He come home — I’m talking about your husband come home, and that’s gone. And don’t just throw it in the trash — he’ll go fish it out — you gotta put in the bathtub full of water before you throw it in the trash. Now don’t do that while it’s plugged in…
[Laughter]

Ah, yes… throw away the thing that makes someone happy. Always the key to a great relationship.

Lingerfelt also called video games a “time waster.” Though if he knew anything about modern gaming, he’d know that it’s a way for a lot of people to socialize, talk to their friends, and just relax. (And that it’s not just men who play the games.)

But that would require doing a bit of research, and why bother with that when you know you’re already speaking for Jesus?

[Formatting in the original]

Gone Too Far #fundie rightwingwatch.org


Imagine an anti-LGBTQ gathering that included remarks by a trio of aggressively anti-gay activists—Scott Lively, Peter LaBarbera, and Brian Camenker—and now imagine that none of them was the most ridiculous, obnoxious or extreme speaker. Such was the scene at the National Press Club on Tuesday afternoon, where a new group calling itself “Gone Too Far” introduced itself with tirades against the LGBTQ equality movement, the proposed federal Equality Act, and members of the Congressional Black Caucus who support it.

Three right-wing African American pastors—Randy Short, Stephen Broden and E.W. Jackson—are part of the group’s organizing committee, as are Lively, LaBarbera, and Camenker. (Notably, the latter three were all part of a group of Religious Right leaders who defended Rep. Steve King when he was punished by his House colleagues for his most recent racist comments.) Additional organizing committee members include Arthur Shaper, head of the California branch of Camenker’s MassResistance; Paul Blair, president of Reclaiming America for Christ; and his Oklahoma clergy colleague, Dan Fisher. Blair is also a promoter of “nullification”–the notion that the individual states hold the power to nullify federal laws.

The press conference began with the blowing of a shofar, prayer, the singing of “Jesus Loves the Little Children” and “God Bless America,” and the reciting of the Pledge of Allegiance. When Short took to the podium, things went downhill quickly.

“Today is a day that we declare war on those who are ungodly, unbiblical and wicked,” said Short, who is from the D.C. area and who is listed as “coordinator” of Gone Too Far on a press release. “We are sick and tired of all the deviants, all the eugenicists, all the homophiles coming out of the closet to destroy this country.” Short was particularly outraged that members of the Congressional Black Caucus, with the exception of Rep. Marcia Fudge, D-Ohio, have endorsed the Equality Act, which Short called “the pedophile bill.”

“We have a group that nobody wants that has decided like a parasite to hook itself to the history and legacy of the African American people,” he said.

Short, whose Facebook page denounces “CBC QOONS,” called members of the Black Caucus “a group of infamous fakers, haters, takers, liars, excuse-makers” who “have auctioned the future of our black babies for the sodomite agenda and for the pedophile or the minor-attracted person agenda.”

“I want to say to you,” said Short, “that the Congressional Black Caucus is the equivalent of a terminal venereal disease on the body of black people in this country, and they cannot take a stand against our people being wiped out.”

Short went after iconic CBC members by name. He declared Maxine Waters to be a “fraud,” adding there is “nothing black about her—her wig is from Korea.” Of civil rights hero John Lewis, he asked, “What closet are you in, boy? They didn’t beat you enough in the 60s for you to turn on God, turn on your people, turn on morality, turn on the black woman, turn on the black unborn, turn on the black children.” Short called on them all to resign.

Saying, “We don’t need a Hitler; we’ve got LGBTQ,” Short suggested that the equality movement is a conspiracy to spread diseases to the black community and “wipe out an unwanted population of people through immorality.”

Those people who should know better, who call themselves minority leaders—who know that bowel movement and the blood shed at Edmund Pettus Bridge don’t come together. We’ve got another epidemic brought to us that’s covered up—shingles. Folks sick because folks eat bowel movement in the sexual acts they have, and now they’re injecting children, giving them these diseases, calling it vaccines, because Big Pharma makes so much money off of the new odd diseases that come out of the conduct of these folks.

Short had an odd question for the audience: “Can anyone prove that all the slaveholders were heterosexual?” And he had an answer:

You can’t scientifically prove that. So didn’t some of these gays, even though they didn’t procreate way back then, didn’t they own our people? Who was raping the boys on the plantations? What is ‘breaking the buck?’ Why don’t we know that on the plantations, black men were raped by gay white men to break them down, and now we’re unified with them, and gay is the new black? Have you lost your mind?

One of the few people Short had any kind words for was Anita Bryant, who he said was right for her anti-gay-rights crusade in the 1970s. “God bless Anita Bryant,” he said.

A cursory online search turns up other examples of Short’s unusual worldview, including a 2014 statement attributed to him that asserted, “I will always love Ayatollah Khomeini.”

Next up was Broden of Dallas, Texas, who said during his failed 2010 congressional campaign that the violent overthrow of the government should be an option “on the table” for dealing with government tyranny.

Like Short, Broden made much of language in the Equality Act, saying that the purpose of the bill is “to prohibit discrimination on the basis of sex, gender identity, sexual orientation—and for other purposes.” Broden implied that “other purposes” opens the door to the potential protection of pedophilia and bestiality by civil rights laws.

Broden said the “sinister” Equality Act would encroach on religious liberty and free speech, and would essentially transfer protections of the civil rights struggle to “wealthy white men.” Said Broden. “It is the gateway to a moral depravity that will ultimately destroy this nation.”

Following Broden to the microphone was Dan Fisher, who promoted Gone Too Far’s “Proclamation for Morality.” The proclamation spends a lot of time talking about sexually transmitted diseases, anal sex, pedophilia and, of course, the horrors of Drag Queen Story Hours.

“All truth is God’s truth,” Fisher said. “And his truth applies to all people at all times and in all places. There is not one truth for men and another for women, one for blacks and another for whites, one for heterosexuals, and another for those identifying as LGBTQ.” God alone, he said, has the authority to define and regulate sexuality and marriage.

“If Congress attempts to label as a civil right that which has been understood by generations as immoral, it would not only be reversing centuries of western Judeo-Christian thought, but would be in essence, as Pastor Broden said, actually rendering historic, orthodox Christianity illegal,” Fisher said.

Next up was Stephen Black, who runs a ministry for “sexually and relationally broken people.” Black said God saved him from his gay-identified “years in darkness” and he denounced efforts by LGBTQ activists to ban conversion therapy for minors. He said the term “gay Christian” is “heresy.”

Scott Lively, the notorious globe-trotting anti-LGBTQ activist and author of “The Pink Swastika,” followed Black at the mic. (Lively ran unsuccessfully last year for the Republican nomination for governor of Massachusetts.) At the Gone Too Far event, he took special aim at the Equality Act, anti-discrimination legislation that was introduced in the 115th Congress. The Equality Act, Lively said, is not really about equality but about “LGBT supremacy.”

Lively denounced former Supreme Court Justice Anthony Kennedy, author of landmark gay-rights rulings, as “the worst enemy of the family in the history of the Supreme Court.” Lively charged that the Equality Act was meant to accomplish what he said was the LGBT movement’s goal of abolishing laws governing the age of sexual consent, as well as the legalization of prostitution and polygamy. He also said that that the transgender movement is really about promoting the “pedophilia agenda.”

After Lively came Peter LaBarbera, famed for his fondness for chronicling leather/fetish events in lurid detail as head of Americans for Truth About Homosexuality. Lively became part of Camenker’s growing MassResistance organization last year, and at this week’s press conference, he promoted the group’s tome on “the health hazards of homosexuality.”

LaBarbera said the LGBTQ movement is an anti-God, anti-normal, anti-truth, anti-moral, anti-freedom “revolution” being led by people who are “desperate to rationalize their sin.” He said gay rights activists are “accelerating their war on the church because the church, the Christian church mainly, is the last bastion of opposition to this revolution.”

Camenker wasn’t at the speaker’s table but was given a minute at the end of the press conference to say how “thrilled” he is to be part of the Gone Too Far effort. At an anti-gay gathering in 2015, Camenker said that God has “very brutal” rules for dealing with people who want to tear down the moral structure of society: they “must be destroyed.”

During a Q&A period, Broden said the Equality Act is part of a “dark, evil sinister plot to destroy America.” Tapping another right-wing conspiracy theory, Broden said the Act’s origins go back to the development of “Cultural Marxism” in Germany in the 1920s. Lively also spoke about Cultural Marxism, which he said was another name for secular humanism, which he said was a religion that elite establishment Republicans and Democrats share.

Asked by a conservative activists about Trump, who waved a rainbow flag on the campaign trail, Lively defended the president, saying he cuts Trump some slack for not doing more because he “still does not have control of the government” due to deep state activists who have their claws and tentacles dug into the Defense and State departments. “Donald Trump is God’s man in the White House,” Lively declared.

Gone Too Far is promoting “God’s Voice,” a conference being held in Oklahoma City on February 22 and 23 that is described as “a biblical response to the queering of the church.” LaBarbera and Black are among the scheduled speakers, along with radio host Janet Mefferd.

Excerpts from Randy Short’s comments at the Gone Too Far press conferenc

Jesse Powell #fundie secularpatriarchy.wordpress.com

I am very glad I am a heterosexual; that I was born male and am romantically and sexually attracted to women. This is natural. This is healthy. This is the way it should be. It would have been very harmful to me if I had detoured into homosexuality at any point in my life and would have been particularly bad if I had embraced homosexuality as my identity rather than a shameful dysfunctional disorder to struggle to escape from in order to become normal and healthy and heterosexual again.

During my time growing up; born in the early 1970s and going to high school in the late 1980s; I was definitely harmed by the feminist attack against my masculinity and my purpose as a man but at least I was protected and shielded from homosexuality during Middle School (7th and 8th grade) and High School (9th grade to 12th grade). Homosexuality as normal and legitimate was never taught to me in the classroom and it was almost unheard of among my fellow students (one person during Middle School confided in me that she worried she might be lesbian while no one in High School was gay). Definitely homosexuality was stigmatized and thought of as weird and sick, no one among my fellow students ever communicated that homosexuality was normal or acceptable and the teachers never brought up the subject at all except during 9th grade when I was told that AIDS, a new terrifying sexually transmitted disease, mostly afflicted homosexual men in big cities like San Francisco.

Due to the feminist attack against me as a man, in particular against my masculinity and my purpose as a man, it is true that I had some problems related to gender identity in my early 20s. In particular I saw myself as a kind of feminine sensitive man interested in mostly female occupations as a way of expressing my “sensitive side” as a man. I was part of a kind of New Age subculture in the early 90s and in this environment as a young adult I did run across actual homosexuals and the feeling that maybe homosexuality was OK and acceptable was kind of “in the air” but still only rarely explicitly stated or advocated for.

My gender bending “sensitive male” identity didn’t do me any good with the ladies and I started to get disgusted with my aimless wandering and so I shifted course looking for purpose and identity and ambition in a way that would connect me with women. In particular I wanted to connect emotionally with the woman I loved the most in High School; to become someone that she would be proud of and to make myself into a man that would be of value to her. This then led to my conversion to patriarchy and dedicating myself to traditional masculinity and my duty to provide for and protect women; this conversion to patriarchy happening in my mid-twenties.

I am very very glad that I always stayed on the heterosexual side of things even during my period of vulnerability in my early 20s. There never was a time when I thought of homosexuality as being “normal” or when I thought that homosexuality should be “accepted” by the wider society. I always felt that it was a good thing that homosexuality was on the fringes and not seen as “normal” even in the New Age hippie like environment I wandered into after High School in my early 20s. I felt like I should be nice and polite and “accepting” of the homosexuals in my environment but I never thought that homosexuality should be elevated to “normal” status and truthfully no social pressure was placed on me to think of homosexuals as being “equal” to heterosexuals.

Looking back on things society didn’t protect me from feminism obviously but society did effectively protect me from homosexuality or homosexual influence or homosexual normalization at least until I graduated from High School and I am grateful for that. I was “safe” from homosexual advocacy and propaganda or any social approval or acceptance of homosexuality or the idea that homosexuality was “available to me” as an option.

What bothers me the most at the gut or visceral level about the Supreme Court decision just handed down mandating so called “gay marriage” nationwide is that it now means that “homosexual equality” is a kind of official government policy and that it is now implicitly “unacceptable” to view homosexuality as being inferior to or “less than” heterosexuality. The law has a kind of implied moral authority or moral legitimacy so that if the Supreme Court says that homosexuality is OK and normal and acceptable then that kind of makes it officially so. What this means is that at the broad cultural level there is no more protection from homosexuality anymore. That I would be left to fend for myself to keep a healthy and functional heterosexual identity intact; my heterosexuality itself would be no longer assumed or taken for granted.

In general I have been quite optimistic regarding what the future of America will be regarding cultural issues. This Supreme Court decision has been expected for awhile, but it is interesting now that it is actually here, that it is official now that “homosexual marriage” is “constitutionally protected” and the “law of the land” in all 50 states. My inclination is to continue to be optimistic regarding the overall picture of American culture going forward. This is because the broad swath of social indicators is pointing towards a return to patriarchy and a return to traditional values. Social indicators are the most powerful force of all I think; more powerful than the Supreme Court. I doubt very seriously that “gay marriage” will turn the social indicators in a negative direction. The rebellion against family breakdown is already rolling in terms of people’s actual behaviors.

I do however think there is a bifurcation going on; that the bad part of American culture is getting worse while the good part of American culture is getting better. The real danger is that the ruling in favor of “marriage equality” will lead to a kind of anti-Christian anti-social conservative tyranny. Already there is some tyranny going on; bakers and florists and such being forced to serve homosexual couples for the “weddings” the homosexual couples plan. Business owners refusing to participate in these kinds of “gay marriage” celebrations have received heavy fines effectively forcing them to either serve gay customers or go out of business. There are Christian educational institutions and such worried that they may lose their tax exempt status or face lawsuits based on their “discrimination” against gays.

To claim that homosexuals are morally equivalent to heterosexuals is a very very radical thing and many religious organizations are worried that an equivalency between racial discrimination and anti-homosexual discrimination is going to be placed into the law so that current anti-discrimination rules and policies protecting blacks from discrimination will be applied to how homosexuals should be treated; this potentially criminalizing important religious practices and policies currently in place at many Christian institutions.

Nationwide Supreme Court mandated “gay marriage” is certainly a bad thing for a number of different reasons but it shouldn’t derail the cultural revival and the Christian revival already underway. Certainly Supreme Court imposed “gay marriage” will help recruitment efforts for the more conservative forms of Christianity. The real question in my mind is how the forces of feminist / homosexual advancement will react to the growing backlash against the societal destruction that feminism and homosexualism has created. How will the feminists and homosexualists respond when they start losing support and losing political power? That is the truly interesting question in my mind.

Anonymous #racist cambriawillnotyield.wordpress.com

The Inhunamity of Utopian Europe

Instead of the religion and the law by which they were in a great politick communion with the Christian world, they have constructed their Republick on three bases, all fundamentally opposite to those on which the communities of Europe are built. Its foundation is laid in Regicide; in Jacobinism; and in Atheisim; and it has jointed to those principles, a body of systematick manners which secures their operation. – Edmund Burke

When Russell Kirk published his book The Conservative Mind, Thomas Molnar commented that Kirk had proved there were conservative-minded American thinkers but had failed to show they had any major impact on the American experiment in government. A point well taken. At every critical juncture in the early days of the American republic, it was the secular utopians, men like Franklin, Madison, Jefferson, and Marshall, who won the day and put their radical imprint on the American government. The ideals of liberty, fraternity, and equality were lurking in the foundational documents of the U. S. Constitution. And there was great bloodshed; when the radical nature of the American government was challenged in the 1860s, the savage god of the utopians unleashed his terrible swift sword on the offending white, Christian Europeans of the South. The war cry then, as it is now, was liberty, equality, and fraternity!

It’s significant that Lafayette, a supporter of the American Revolution, also became part of France’s regicide government. There are many differences in style between the two revolutions, the American and the French, but the spirit animating both is the same: it is the spirit of the archangel Satan.

The presence of an anti-Christian, anti-white nation such as the United States on the world stage would not be as great a danger to white people as it now is if the other European nations were not smaller caricatures of the United States. Every European nation is following in the United States’ footsteps, at slightly slower rates, because they have more traditional European baggage to throw away before they completely succumb to liberalism and its attendant negro-worship.

It is always encouraging when a European nation objects to any part of the American liberal agenda. For instance, I don’t think Russia is a sound nation – they did not, as Solzhenitsyn had hoped, reject the materialism of western democracy when Russia abandoned communism. And they have some negro athletes (one is too many) on their sport teams, but they did issue a counter-attack against America’s deification of sodomy. It was quite heartening to see Russia celebrating the traditional family over and against America’s satanic family ideal.

I wish more European nations would resist American influence, but unfortunately the hatred of the white race and the Christian religion is a virulent virus throughout the European world. It will take more than the removal of the United States to kill the virus; it will take a resurgence of the European spirit, which is undemocratic, militantly Christian, and unapologetically racist.

It grates on conservatives’ nerves (something akin to fingernails scraping a blackboard) when you suggest that America was not founded on sound conservative principles, but isn’t it quite obvious that our negro-worshipping, sodomite present is linked to our anti-European past? What was good in America had nothing to do with the democratic idea men, but it had everything to do with the European Americans who brought the faith and ethos of the white man to America. What binds together the American Revolution, the French Revolution, and all the European revolutions that have followed in their wake is a commitment to an utopian, democratic future that has no place for a God with a heart of flesh and for the people who championed that God. What Butterfield admired in the English, prior to the 20th century, was that they went into the future holding onto the strings of their past. Once England followed the American and French example and cut those strings connecting Britons to their past, the sacred soil of Christian Britain became fertile ground for the growth of Islam and negro-worship. Without a past, we are not a people, we are just abstractions of the liberals’ utopian minds, to be eliminated whenever it becomes politically expedient to do so. And the expedient moment has come: The white man must be eliminated, to make way for a new people purged of the sins of the past and ready to live and strive in the new non-Christian, non-white utopia of the future.

One of the great movies of all time is The Wonderful World of the Brothers Grimm. The movie tells the story of Wilhelm Grimm’s (the ‘impractical’ brother) efforts to preserve the folk tales of his people that we now call Grimms’ fairy tales. At one point in the film, Wilhelm becomes sick and appears to be dying. He has collected the tales in his head, but he has not yet put them on paper. All the people from Fairyland – Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs, Little Red Riding Hood, Hansel and Gretel, Cinderella, the Frog Prince, and so on – come before Wilhelm in a dream sequence and beg him not to die so that they will not die. On Wilhelm Grimm rests the fate of fairytale Europe.

Wilhelm does not die and the fairytale people live to nourish and enrich the lives of all true Europeans. But their fate, the fairytale people of Europe, once again hangs in the balance. Such folk tales, many that go all the way back to the time of our Lord and perhaps were told by Him when He trod on England’s green and pleasant land, came from the lifeblood of the European people. If Europeans no longer believe they are a people with a great spiritual heritage, they will not preserve their past; they will be Undines, resembling human beings on the outside, but inwardly lacking an animating spirit. Our Lord told us that unless we become as little children we will not inherit the kingdom of heaven. The fairytale comprehension of life, represented by those tales collected by Wilhelm Grimm, is all in all. Only the Europeans saw that it was not tragic that “we are such stuff as dreams are made on.” A dream that is grounded in the visionary heart of the European people is a dream that brings us face to face with our Lord on the road to Emmaus. “Did not our heart burn within us while He talked with us by the way, and while He opened to us the Scriptures?” Of course the apostles’ hearts burned within them, and did not our hearts burn within us when we lived in fairytale Europe rather than in multicultural Europe?

The churches have played their part, a diabolical part, in killing the European people. “Of what use is a past when you have the anointed ones to tell you about God?” Of what use indeed? I think an antique European would answer the godded men with this question: “Of what use is the historical Jesus?” If you reject the flesh-and-blood people who loved Christ enough to build their civilization with Him as the incarnate center, then where is our incarnate Lord to be found? In the midst of multi-cultural Babylon? Or is He to be found in the future? If that is the case, then how do we differ from the Jews, who reject the historical Jesus but look to the future for the coming of their God. In Ian Maclaren’s great masterpiece Beside the Bonnie Brier Bush, in the chapter called “His Mother’s Sermon,” a young minister returns to his hometown to preach his first sermon. He is filled with Biblical history and the latest university-taught theology, but right before he ascends the pulpit, he remembers the words of his mother on her death bed:

“I canna see ye noo, John, but I know yir there, and I’ve just one other wish. If God calls ye to the ministry, ye’ill no refuse, an’ the first day ye preach in yir ain kirk, speak a gude word for Jesus Christ, an’ John, I’ll hear ye that day, though ye’ll no see me, and I’ll be satisfied.”

As the bred-in-the-bone Europeans die out, the Europeans with hearts of flesh, there is no one left to “speak a gude word for Jesus Christ.” Our fairy king of Europe has faded away and been replaced by the negro, because His people have faded away.

I don’t know if Christ actually set foot on England’s green and pleasant land when He was on this earth in the flesh. I like to think He did, but it is not of vital importance. The important thing is that He visited Europe in the flesh through His people. When we are in contact with His Europe we are just as close to Him as the apostles were on the road to Emmaus. I shall never forget the feeling of awe that came over me some forty years ago when I set foot in Britain. The land of Shakespeare, Scott, and Dickens, an important part of His Europe! How can we allow such a fairytale land to become the haven of Muslims and colored heathens? Anthony Jacob, after listing the white man’s considerable material accomplishments, proceeds to the real significance of the white man’s accomplishment: It is white people who built the only civilization that was dedicated to something more than material things; their civilization was consecrated to Him who was and is the personal God above the material dust of this world. I can’t read any classic work of European literature or view an old movie that depicts Europeans from long ago without feeling sadness and anger. Sadness because of that which is lost, anger against those who destroyed Christian Europe and against those Europeans who refuse to fight for its restoration. Our love of our people in and through the historical Christ built Christian Europe. A renewal of that love, for them and for Him, will restore Christian Europe.

I’m at the age when a lot of my friends and relatives are getting sick and dying. Last year, for instance, I watched my father die very slowly and inhumanely in the hands of an inhumane medical staff. And in the past four months I witnessed the slow painful death of a friend, who also suffered a needlessly painful death at the hands of an inhumane medical staff. My run-ins with modern “medicine” are not isolated incidents. There is an overwhelming testimony building, from liberals, grazers, and conservatives, that there is something monstrous going on in the medical profession. How could it be otherwise? The churches jettisoned the European Christ for a theory of God, and the liberals abandoned Him for the negro gods. The issue isn’t whether there were or were not American conservative thinkers; both Kirk and Molnar were wrong when they placed thought, divorced from the lifeblood of the European people, at the center of existence. To hell with that kind of abstract existence. Everything in modern Liberaldom now consists of statistics. My father was past ninety; what difference did it make if he starved to death; at best he had one or two more years. My neighbor had two terminal diseases; what difference did it make if she was left in bed without any attempts to move her limbs except when her husband or friends came in to do it? What difference does anything make since we all are doomed to suffer and die? It used to make a difference to Christian Europeans. They did not make their humanity the slave of inhuman statistics. You prolong life, even if it is aged life, because He wants it that way. We all die, certainly, but doesn’t it behoove Christian Europeans to place a Christ-like presence before the sick and dying so that they pass into eternity with Christ’s name on their lips? The brave new world is upon us. When He is absent, because the Europeans have gone whoring after other gods, then all is “cheerless, dark, and deadly.” The Murdstones are two of the most consummate villains in all of literature, and they commit all their villainies in the name of religion despite the fact that there is nothing Christian in their religion: “’And do you know I must say, sir,’ he continued, mildly laying his head on one side, ‘that I DON’T find authority for Mr. and Miss Murdstone in the New Testament?’” Indeed, that is the point. What is the liberals’ and the church men’s authority for this ‘utopia’ they have thrust upon us? It is certainly NOT His authority. And what other authority is there for a European?

Dostoyevsky’s underground man said that, “A man lives his whole life to prove he is not a piano key.” Yes, but let us deepen the underground man’s defiant declaration: “A man lives his whole life so that he can say, ‘Into thy hands I commend my spirit, O Lord.” That is what being a European is all about. +

Bocephus #fundie sodahead.com

[on an open thread on "liberals" attacking Kirk Cameron's "freedom of speech"]

It's a technique they use to silence your voice. They use words like judging and hate but it's all B.S. They don't want you voting, speaking , or praying against them. They are on a mission and we are in their way. Keep voicing your concerns and feelings. You know what is right and wrong inside. . Peaceful mass non compliance.

Obama's goal is to indoctrinate students in public school, restricting the free speech of opposition, obtaining special treatment for homosexuals, distorting Biblical teaching and science, and interfering with freedom of association. Advocates of the homosexual agenda seek special rights for homosexuals that other people don't have, such as immunity from criticism (see hate speech, hate crimes). Such special rights will necessarily come at the expense of the rights of broader society.

Among all the liberal belief systems, the homosexual ideology is the most self-centered or selfish.

Jay Younts #fundie shepherdpress.com

Kirk’s words, often the same words that you and I might think, are reported as hate speech. He is openly mocked, ridiculed and even hated for believing what committed Christians should believe. His words are frequently taken out of context so that often what is reported is not accurate. Kirk is not the only one to endure this treatment. There are other Christians, other public figures that are treated this way. But I am blessed to know Kirk, so for me it is personal. And I want to take this opportunity to encourage you to do two things.

First, pray for Kirk and those like him who remain faithful even in the middle of the media blitz and misinformation. Be thankful for their sacrifice and willingness to speak the truth when it is not pleasant to do so.

Second, follow his example, and speak clearly to those you come in contact with about who God is and what the Bible teaches. In many ways folks like Kirk are doing the job that our churches should be doing, the job you and I should be doing. We don’t need to be on TV to make an impact for Christ. Pray that God would give us the courage to make the most of the opportunities given to us to speak God’s truth in love.

I encourage you to be thankful for those like Kirk who are in the public eye. Pray for them. Join me in thanking Kirk for standing for the things we hold dear. Let him know he is not alone.

Navaros #fundie imdb.com

No, I'm not kidding.

Ray Comfort and Kirk Cameron are among the very few high profile Bible-believing Christians in the world. That makes it all the more the shame to see one of them ruin his great work for no good reason with an unnecessary & nefarious endorsement.

"Science creates fictions to explain facts" – Gilman

sophie #fundie rr-bb.com

["If your child was kidnapped and the person who did it was caught, would you be in favor of water boarding if thats what it took to get him to tell the location of your child?"]

Good question Cameron. By reading the posts here, I would guess if that kidnapper is on US soil they have every right afforded them under the Constitution because we are a nation of Laws and Values. Torture is torture, whether it's done by our government or even by us in order to save our children's lives. If we let a child's life take precedence over these strict moral values, we start becoming more and more like our enemy.

[*thumbs up*!]

Springfield, I was being sarcastic.

Ray Comfort #fundie ecclesia.org

The banana-the atheist's nightmare.

Note that the banana:

1) Is shaped for human hand
2) Has non-slip surface
3) Has outward indicators of inward content:
    Green-too early,
    Yellow-just right,
    Black-too late.
4) Has a tab for removal of wrapper
5) Is perforated on wrapper
6) Bio-degradable wrapper
7) Is shaped for human mouth
8) Has a point at top for ease of entry
9) Is pleasing to taste buds
10) Is curved towards the face to make eating process easy

To say that the banana happened by accident is even more unintelligent than to say that no one designed the Coca Cola can.

VoiceofSanity #fundie liveleak.com

Sources/Citations Where Homosexuals Admit Their Child Molestation Epidemic

Filthy homosexual militants used to be quite in your face about their admitted child molestation epidemic till Madsen Avenue marketers and homos Marshal Kirk and Hunter Madsen came along and authored the Homosexual Agenda marketing and propaganda manifestos "Overhauling Straight America" and "After the Ball...", the first available online and the second from Amazon books.

Kirk and Madsen instructed the homosexual extremist movement to repackage their filth and sanitize their image. They bragged; "First let the camel get his nose inside the tent--only later his unsightly derriere!".

Kirk and Madsen are the guys who came up with the Born Gay hoax, which they admit is a hoax, but they instructed the homo movement that; “To suggest in public that homosexuality might be chosen is to open the can of worms labeled ‘moral choices and sin’ and give the religious intransigents a stick to beat us with. "

You can read the entire genesis of the homosexual militants "Born Gay" hoax here

Kirk and Madsen successfully convinced the homosexualist movement to cast themselves as victims in need of sympathy instead of the aggressors attackers they are.

As part of that, Kirk and Madsen successfully instructed the homosexualist movement to downplay and outright deny their child molestation epidemic, but only at first, till the homosexualist movement succeeds in eliminating all age of consent laws and mainstreaming child molestation as they are feverishly working to do.

Kirk and Madsen put this disgusting admission into their Homosexual Agenda manifesto: "It almost goes without saying that groups on the farthest margin of acceptability such as NAMBLA, must play no part at all in such a campaign: suspected child-molesters will never look like victims."

"Acceptability"?! Really?!!!!

Now you know why the homosexualist movement now downplays and denies their child molestation epidemic.

And if someone exposes the link? Using scripted "jamming" tactics from the Homosexual Agenda like "You must be closeted", they are bashed, attacked, bullied, harassed, terrorized, threatened with job loss, and threatened with death.

Before Kirk and Madsen schemed up their Homosexual Agenda psy-ops manifesto, there were a bewildering array of public admissions in homosexual publications of the inextricable link between homosexuality and child molestation. These filthy deviant sex pervert monsters even go so far as to publicly call child molesters their "prophets".

AV1611VET #fundie foru.ms

[AV, does evidence hold any importance or meaning to you?]

None whatsoever ---

Ecclesiastes 3:11
He hath made every thing beautiful in his time: also he hath set the world in their heart, so that no man can find out the work that God maketh from the beginning to the end.

dlo_3us2001 #fundie groups.yahoo.com

Kirk is correct:

If evolution made me....I must change through the years.

I didn't evolve, I grew.

I didn't change from a fish to a human being.

Therefore there is No genetic mutations within me and never will be.

I will always remain a human being, even in eternity. I won't become an angel either. I will remain a human being.

I may receive an imperishable body and become immortal after I leave this year, but I will always be a human being, adopted by God, because I received Jesus Christ as my Savior.


Sandy

Mack Major #fundie edendecoded.com

Christians need to become more astute at determining the source of things.

For instance: when you hear a song from a favorite gospel artist or group, are you sure their source comes from God? Are they plugged into Holy Ghost power or demonic power?

Just because they can sing good or make you feel goosebumps doesn't mean God is their source. God may be the source of their gift: but is He the source for how that gift is being used?

Now I know some will say: 'But Mack, these gospel artists are singing gospel music (or Christian hip hop). Aren't they giving God the glory and leading others to Christ through their music?"

That depends again on the source. Is their music inspiring people to turn away from their sins, repent and turn to Christ? Is it influencing people to be more holy? If not, you must question the source.

•When you hear your favorite gospel song being played, what does it make you feel like doing? Does it inspire you to want to worship God with all your heart and soul: or are you just moved to dance and gyrate your hips?

•When you see your favorite gospel artist on stage performing or 'ministering,' are they dressed in a way that speaks holiness and godliness? Or do they awaken and excite feelings of lust, sensuality and worldliness?

I remember back in my club scene days, I'd be posted up near the bar whispering game in some woman's ear: when all of a sudden a Kirk Franklin song would come on. This isn't meant to bash Kirk or his music in any way. But I'm just keeping it real because this genuinely baffled me. When his music would come on, instead of people leaving the dance floor, they would keep right on dancing without skipping a beat.

No one would pause, stare in bewilderment or anything. This was amazing to me even while I was in a backslidden state myself, because this was a gospel song being sung by a well known gospel artist in a NIGHT CLUB! And yet no one felt any sense of conviction or need to change their ways.

The problem with the gospel music artists today is that many if not most are no longer plugging into God as their source. Their desire for worldly acceptance and demonic validation has blinded their hearts, and corrupted their gifts.

Again: don't get the gifting confused with the anointing. God gives people their ability or talent. That's the gifting. But the person can choose to plug that talent into God's power for His glory or purposes, or choose instead to plug it into a demonic source for the devil's glory or purposes.

What does the music inspire you to do? If it doesn't inspire you to be more holy, to feel a stronger internal desire to dig deeper into His Word and spend more time with our Heavenly Father, or encourage yourself or your brethren in Christ to hold on and keep the faith: then that source does NOT come from God; no matter how talented the artist might be.

A Godly source will inspire you to become more holy and godly. But a demonic source will encourage you to become more like those who are unsaved and of the world.

This is why you must steer yourself away from gospel artists who are inspiring you after the flesh. You know the type: the ones who go around proclaiming themselves to be 'sexy' Christians. or the ones who are quick to call everyone else judgmental because they don't agree with mixing the holy with the profane.

The only place a self-proclaimed sexy Christian can lead you to is right into sexual sin. God doesn't need his people using their bodies to attract others to Him! What type of demonic mess is that?!

Christ has called us to be holy vessels of God, and to present our bodies as a living sacrifice, crucifying our flesh daily so we can walk in holiness and sexual purity. You won't be able to do that if you're running around promoting your sexiness to others.

In fact, you've already been compromised by the devil if you find yourself feeling defensive as you read this article.

I challenge anyone to find me the verse and scripture where God told anyone to use their bodies or ungodly means to draw others to Jesus. You won't be able to, because that idea came direct from Hell. It wasn't inspired by the Holy Spirit: it was inspired by the spirit of Lust.

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One last story and then I'm done: I remember going to church as a kid, and whenever someone got up to sing a solo, the elder church folk would say things like 'Let the Lord use you honey.' They said this because in their wisdom they knew the person could easily let a demon use them instead of being used by God. So they encouraged the soloist to channel the power of God for a powerful heavenly impact on the listeners.

It's time to purge your hearts and ears saints. This message won't be for everyone, because not everyone who calls himself or herself a believer truly is.

Jesus said "Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven." - Matthew 7:21

This message is for those who truly desire to walk upright and live in such a manner that truly pleases our Heavenly Father.

If you have a strong addiction to listening to demonically inspired music...and remember our test from earlier...it's time to purge your musical playlist. This is an important step in walking upright before God.

We're about to enter a phase in our world where darkness and sin will sweep this earth like never before.

God is allowing sin and demonic influence to increase because the time is near for Him to return and bring an end to Satan's reign of terror.

He's separating His sheep from Satan's goats. And all those who are still tinkering and tampering with sin will find it more difficult than ever to pull away. The sin you hold onto is the one that destroys you. So don't be destroyed by sin: cast it out!

Go through your musical tastes and playlist. And do this prayerfully with all the honesty you can muster. As you honestly assess each artist you enjoy listening to and their music, ask yourself some simple questions:

What does this music inspire me to do? Am I influenced by this artist and their music to read my bible more, pray more, go to church more, abstain from sexual sin and my own fleshly desire for worldly and sensual validation?

Be totally honest and transparent. Pray and ask God by His spirit to help you remove any and all influence from your life that does not match what His ideal for you is! He'll help you if you sincerely want His help.

ShieldOFaith #fundie foru.ms

"Trot, here is something to remember. 9/11 happened. You may not think that it did, but you'd be wrong.

As far as God making man out of the dust of the earth, and Eve made from Adam's rib; it is all true. Here is how we know this.

JESUS CHRIST ROSE FROM THE DEAD!

Since that happened, then everything in the Word happened.

If you or anyone else does not believe that Jesus rose from the dead, then what you are saying is you don't believe the testimonies of the witnesses that saw Him rise from the dead.

Here is the problem. You are denying credible witnesses. It is just like me saying, "I don't believe that the Twin Towers were blown up by terrorists." All the footage is a lie. I was not there and I did not see any terrorist do anything wrong. If the footage was even real, then I believe that it was the Canadian government that sent agents to fly those planes into those buildings.

How do we really know that there were 'terrorists' on those planes? I wasn't there, I didn't see any terrorists do anything that day. The flight manifests could have been doctored very easily. The film itself could have been doctored. I wasn't there, so how do I really know that the Twin Towers were destroyed by terrorists??? How?

You say you have 'Eye witnesses'? Jesus had thousands of 'Eye witnesses' to His miracles!!!

You are calling the 'Eye witnesses' of Jesus' miracles liars. I can call the so called 9/11 wittinesses liars. How do I really know that someone who says that they were there, was really there? I'm going to just believe JoJo the street peddler who says he was selling watches two buildings away from the Towers when they went up in smoke?

See, it is real easy to smear doubt on anything.

You say the Bible has no proof? You have the same "proof" of 9/11 as Christ has for raising from the dead. Witnesses! Real people who say something and are telling of what they saw.

Now remember this: I HAVE YET TO SEE ANY 9/11 WITNESS BEING CRUCIFIED UPSIDE DOWN FOR THEIR TESTIMONIES (remember St. Peter?).

You have to base your disbelief on FAITH that you believe that they are liars!!!!

Face it my friend, JESUS CHRIST rose from the dead and that is a wonderful thing!!!

SOLI DEO GLORIA!!!"

Ray Comfort #fundie facebook.com

Christians believe that God made man from soil. How dumb is that? If you just said an atheist-amen to the dumb question, then I’d like you to do something the next time you go shopping in a supermarket.

Look at every food item and ask yourself whether or not it traces itself back to soil: potato chips, milk, cheese, eggs, butter, pancakes, bananas, bread, cookies, grapes, apples, beef, chicken, lamb, pork, popcorn, chocolate, cereal, coffee, strawberries, etc. It takes a little bit of backward thinking, but if you take the time to give it some thought, everything traces itself back to the soil.

Let’s do it with eggs. The eggs came from the chicken. The chicken ate the wheat to make the eggs, and the wheat traces itself back to the soil.

When you were a toddler, your mother gave you milk that came from the cow that chewed the grass that came from the soil. Stated simplistically, milk is rearranged soil nutrients.

So is cheese, butter, yoghurt and ice cream. The substance of our bodies is made up of the food we ate, and all the food we ate traces itself back to the soil (Mother Earth). We are rearranged dirt.

Coincidentally, science tells us that the same trace elements that make up soil are the same elements that make up the human body--carbon, hydrogen, nitrogen, calcium, and phosphorus. When you die, your body will turn back into soil, and your soiled soul will return to the God who gave you your life.

Anna Diehl #fundie 924jeremiah.wordpress.com

Christians are great at saying “God is first,” but they rarely think about what this actually means. One thing it means is that our Gods’ preferences and pleasure should be considered infinitely more important than our own. If Jesus says that it pleases Him to torment souls forever in Hell, then you express your loyalty to Jesus by aligning with what He wants. If Jesus says your grandfather spat in His face one time too many, thus Gramps is now going to be roasting forever in Hell, that’s your opportunity to honor your Lord by deciding that what He wants is more important than your loved one having some positive experience in eternity.

Ray Comfort #fundie onthebox.us

“If Christianity worked, you would not be seeing the emergence of the age of reason... but you are witnessing its birth."

Atheism--the age of reason? It is leading us back into the dark ages--of talking primates, we are made of stardust, we are cousins of bananas, believing in walking whales, spinning through space on a planet made by nothing for no reason at all.

David J. Stewart #fundie jesus-is-savior.com

Actress Cameron Diaz is a wicked woman for starring in the recent R-rated (R for rotten) Hollywood filthy 2014 movie titled, “SEX TAPE.” I haven't seen the movie and won't see it. The advertisement says the story is about a married couple who records themselves having sex, then wakes up the next morning and finds the tape missing. So they spend the rest of the movie looking for the tape. This is the evil Hollywood smut that continually provokes THE JUDGMENT OF GOD upon our nation, and it is already happening... just look at the police state being set up right before our eyes, while dumbed-down, decadent, comatose, sin-loving, party-going, sports-worshipping, obese, television-brainwashed, indifferent Americans are doing absolutely nothing to fight it!!! Shame on Cameron Diaz for being involved in such evil smut, nudity and wickedness. This is preaching!

DoctorDoom #fundie libertydwells.com

Bratty child, you have not shown ONE sign, not ONE trace, of scientific competence in your scribblings. You, like every other omniscient, self-worshipping juvenile, do not debate, discuss or argue. You merely attack. The only reasonable conclusion: science education in "skoolz" has become a pathetic joke, and you are the proof of that.

It would be futile to attempt to provoke an ignorant, arrogant pissant like you into engaging in an actual debate on the subject. I have yet to encounter an evowacko who is capable of anything other than snotty, hostile, insulting rhetoric. On the continuum of scientific knowledge, evozealots are between the paramecium and the lobotomized kumquat.


Please be considerate of the adults here. Go find a nice, dark corner, curl up in the fetal position, suck on one thumb, insert the other in your aft aperture, play switchfinger, and reflect in your primitive way on how much better life would be if you had a functioning brain.

Go back you your chatroom and try to impress your fellow barely-post-pubescent punks. Maybe they'll ask you to show them your "thing" again.

BTW, Bonzo, I was flaming when the best part of you ran down your daddy's furry leg and dripped on his banana peels.

[Emphasis mine.]

responsible #fundie blogs.telegraph.co.uk

PM David Cameron is right to refute the Al Campbell 'we do not do God' vote buying arrogance of totalitarian smug smearing neo-Left selfies who strut in not being accountable, and control by smear and innuendo BBC style as they milk taxpayers and others.

There is right and wrong. Not everything is relative to what someone claims to sincerely believe that suits themselves. People are sick of the Dawkins style self asserting self seeking bland smear assertions pretending to be argument about sky fairies from a stance of moral equivalence and dumb relativist opinion as if proof. Physics shows Dawkins' claims are primitive Dan Brown style novelistic rubbish.

The truth is no one knows how the universe or humans began. The true probability of a protein being formed by random chance is so close to nil as to be unseeable. The chance of life creation and evolution as random is like a tornado going through a scrap yard and producing a Massserati. Nil.

So there is a deity as the the world's leading and most notorious atheist Anthony Flew wrote 'There is a God'. After he changed his mind, the shrill self assuring atheistic relativists could only comment 'he was old'! Similar dumb socialistic atheists supported the USSR, and failed completely to notice it collapsed with tragic loss of life and social chaos. Has atheism every had anything except a disaster?

'The line separating good and evil passes not through states, nor between classes, nor between political parties either, but through every human heart'. Solzhenitzyn wrote after being an atheistic communist Red Army officer and converting to be a Christian.

The pathetic glib claims that wrongs happen and were done by people calling themselves christian, therefore Christians are bad, is like claiming bad actions by lawyers mean the law and lawyers are bad! There is bad, evil exists and people are created free to choose to do it, or struggle against it. Christianity is for each individual heart. Man made institutions, churches and organisations are fallible human efforts. They fail sometimes and face man made law. Individuals are accountable to God, and through Jesus can seek some redemption.

John #fundie time-blog.com

[On James Cameron's documentary claiming to have found caskets containing Jesus and his family.]

I've already advised the Discovery Channel that if they air this I will cancel my subscription....they should be lucky that I don't strap explosives around my waste.

UK Korean Friendship Association #fundie facebook.com

UK KFA condemns anti-DPRK event ! Tonight the "Guardian " newspaper is holding an anti DPRK event in Islington . This event is not for ordinary people as tickets cost £20+ .Clearly the event is aimed at the well off, the liberal 'chattering classes, academics and businessmen. SIgnificantly pro-DPRK viewpoints have been deliberately excluded from the event .

No one from UK KFA or the Juche Idea Study Group of England was invited to attend this event despite the fact these organisations include people who have visited the DPRK 14 times and hold academic qualifications from the DPRK Instead a number of anti-DPRK academics such as Hazel Smith and Aidan Foster -Carter are will be speaking , both of these are inveterate DPRK bashers and haters .!

The introductory material for the event betrays an anti-DPRK bias saying that the DPRK's nuclear programme is a " bargaining chip to gain recognition abroad, and legitimacy and support at home"(!!!?) . Do not they not realise that the reason the DPRK started a nuclear weapons programme is to defend itself from US imperalism which attacked the DPRK in 1950 and several times threatened the use of nuclear weapons . The US brought 1,000 nuclear weapons into south Korea long before the DPRK had a nuclear programme .

As usual clichhes like "the world's most isolated nation" are trotted out . This ignores that the fact that the DPRK has diplomatic relations with many countries. In August last , a UK KFA delegation participated in an international festival which attracted over 300 people. How can the DPRK be isolated ?

Basically the "Guardian'" event Understanding North Korea: How likely is war " is another anti-DPRK propaganda exercise fronted by a couple of over paid academic apologists for US imperialism and the south Korean fascist puppet regime .

Royce E. Van Blaricome #fundie christiannews.net

[Royce has previously cited transphobic, discredited, disavowed psychologist Paul McHugh to support trans-bashing. Ambulance Chaser has responded that there is ample evidence McHugh is wrong.]

Royce E. Van Blaricome:
Cite your evidence

Ambulance Chaser:
Arlene Lev: Transgender Emergence: Therapeutic Guidelines for Working with Gender Variant People and their Families

Royce E. Van Blaricome:
That's not evidence. That's a reference. And it's not even a good one.

Ambulance Chaser:
Yes, it's a reference to a well-written, well-researched book by an expert in the field. Come back to me once you've read it.

Royce E. Van Blaricome:
Thanks for publicly displaying what you consider "well-written, well-researched book by an expert in the field".

"Grounded in feminist family therapy, therapeutic services are directed towards empowerment and authenticity and the nurturing of healthy queer families."

"In 2000 Lev founded the Rainbow Access Initiative, a training program on LGBT issues for therapists and medical professionals in the Capital Region of New York."

"As Lev began to work with transgender clients and their families in the mid-1980s, she realized how little her training had prepared her in sexuality, sexual issues, and gender. In the process of training herself in this area she wrote her first book"

As always, appreciate you discrediting yourself and bringing to our attention another bias "expert" promoting the immoral behavior.

Ambulance Chaser:
Yes? I don't see a problem with any of that.

Royce E. Van Blaricome:
They ya go folks! Finally an admission from a spiritually-dead one that he had no problem with a biased, non-expert, non-qualified, promoter of the LGBTQABCXYZ agenda being used as an expert and their books and "counsel" being used to establish Societal norms.

Is that who ya wanna listen to and rely on?

Ambulance Chaser:
Yes, she's biased. Just like Paul McHugh, meaning we should ignore everything he says as well.

Or maybe we should stop playing ad hominem games and start evaluating the statements themselves. So, what is it Arlene Lev said that you disagree with?

Royce E. Van Blaricome:
Provide your evidence that McHugh is biased? He's got the credentials. She don't!!

Ambulance Chaser:
Again, stop playing your ad hominem game and let's discuss what was actually said.

Now, what part of Lev's book do you disagree with?

Royce E. Van Blaricome:
Again, stop playing your ad hominem game. Provide your evidence that McHugh is biased.

Ambulance Chaser:
Well, he keeps ignoring evidence and insisting on his position.

Now, can we discuss the issues or not?

Royce E. Van Blaricome:
What evidence? Provide it.

Ambulance Chaser:
Enough with Paul McHugh. Are we going to talk about the facts or not?

Royce E. Van Blaricome:
Ah, I see. So your saying you want to rely on the "experts" was just a lie. A ruse.

Got it. Thanks.

Ambulance Chaser:
No, I'm saying I want to talk about the subject and not play games with whose expert is smarter.

Now, for the last time, are we going to discuss the actual topic or not?

Royce E. Van Blaricome:
Hmm, trying to follow your logic and reasoning abilities here. Earlier you said that we have to rely on the "experts". Now you say we don't. Which is it?

And you want to discuss the topic? Why? Are you claiming to be an expert now? If so, would you be the expert that we're supposed to listen to or the one that doesn't matter?

Ambulance Chaser:
I'm saying there's no value in playing ad hominem games about who wrote articles. Either the conclusions in the article are correct, or they're not. And there's no reason to discuss which author is smarter, who has more experience, etc.

Now, are we going to discuss the actual science or not? (For what must be the fifth time?)

Royce E. Van Blaricome:
Oh, so you're admitting you get to decide whether the conclusions are correct or not? If there is no reason to discuss which author is smarter, who has more experience, etc. then why are you the one who said we have to rely on the experts? You seem to be confused. Smh. Since the "science" actually came from someone which their intelligence, experience, etc. is irrelevant why would one bother to discuss that science anyways? After all, if they're not smart enough and not experienced enough to conduct what's needed and properly record the results why would anyone want to discuss that? Again, you seem quite confused.

Of course we all know why you say that now. Because the only thing that matters is who agrees with you. Because YOU are the expert. Got it. You're a legend in your own mind. Thanks but no thanks. I'll stick with God. He knows more than you do.

And I know what He has said.

Ambulance Chaser:
I said I wanted to DISCUSS the topic, not that I was smarter, or you were. But you clearly just want to play disingenuous games, insult me, bob, dodge, and weave, and literally do anything but actually have a conversation about the issues.

So we're done.

Royce E. Van Blaricome:
We can all see what you said. Just as you were the one who said you wanted to disperse with the ad hominems and just proved that a lie as well.

The only one playing disingenuous games, insulting, bobbing, dodging, and weaving, and literally doing anything but actually having a conversation about the issues is you. Otherwise you wouldn't be contradicting yourself, citing your evidence, and resorting to empty rhetoric like you just did.

Now, since we're done, I gotta get outside and do a few things before dark. Thanks again for publicly displaying what ya got for all to see. Always appreciated when things go back to the Truth with a simple "because that's what God said".

Ron Paul #fundie tnr.com

All during the 1980s, sexual activity among teenage girls increased, says the liberal Guttmacher Institute. They purported to be surprised, but the kinds of programs they promote - as illustrated by the condom item above - can have no other effect. Kids growing up in today's hyper-sexual atmosphere believe the safe sex propaganda that condoms prevent AIDS. The only safe sex, medically and morally, is that between husband and wife.

Roopilots6 #fundie conservapedia.com

Today is: 17 Av 5767
That is 5,767 years since the first man, Adam, first walked the earth. Not everyone holds the non-theistic religious belief of the earth being millions of years old. With modern scientific evidence increasingly supporting the factuality of a young earth, Gods Word is becoming more relevant in todays world. Every year something is found that scientifically proves the validity and accuracy of His word. Archeology continues to find evidence that backs up events written about in the Bible. Yet the world has rejected God as well as those He has chosen to be His people. It isn't dificult to see how tenaciously the world clings to a failed belief system that requires its adherents to believe in the evolutionary time table of millions of years. Simple reverse psychology applies perfectly here. If Genesis had described evolution then we would all be learning the young earth theory in every public schools and colleges. The unatural hatred towards Israel and Christian America proves how the natural man has gone in every direction except towards his own Creator God.

Mark Morrison #fundie superstitionfree.blogspot.com

In the late 1980s, TV commercials in the U.S. asked, "What goes through the mind of a driver who is not wearing a seat belt in a head- n collision?" Then they showed a crash dummy having its head crushed by a steering wheel in a collision, and said, "The steering wheel!" Those were scare tactics, but no one complained because they were legitimate scare tactics. That’s what happens in a head-on collision if you are foolish enough to not put on a seat belt. To warn of hell is fearful, but it is absolutely legitimate, because the Bible says that it is a fearful thing for a sinner to fall into the hands of the living God.

Is Hell offensive? Yes it is, and it should be.

Peter LaBarbera #fundie lifesitenews.com

Liberal law center demonizes Christian foes of LGBTQ agenda as ‘hate groups’

August 18, 2017 (LifeSiteNews) — In the vast array of leftist lies, one of the most dangerous is that groups and people defending historic Judeo-Christian sexual morality are somehow guilty of "hate." The main perpetrator of that “big lie” these days is the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC), which has turned smearing and demonizing social conservatives fighting the homosexual-transgender agenda into a very profitable business.

The SPLC is attempting to pull off one of the nastiest and most audacious “bait-and-switch” propaganda coups in history — equating the Christian-conservative led effort to defend biblical morality against the aggressive LGBTQ lobby with vile racists, Neo-Nazis and anti-Semitic extremist groups.

The Birmingham, Alabama-based SPLC’s “hate” campaign is helped along by lazy, biased journalists and online “social justice warriors” who delight in using its past anti-racism credentials to advance the Left's immoral and deviant sex-gender agenda.

CNN lends legitimacy to SPLC

Yesterday, CNN shamefully assisted the SPLC’s bogus “hate” narrative by running a story featuring its “hate map” under the initial headline, “Here are all the active hate groups where you live.” It was accompanied by a graphic of the SPLC’s “hate map” of alleged “hate groups,” which includes, under Illinois, my organization, Americans For Truth About Homosexuality (AFTAH). We have been slandered as an SPLC “hate group” for the last several years.

On the SPLC ‘s Illinois map, AFTAH and other Christian pro-family groups are listed alongside a KKK group, a "white nationalist" outfit, and some affiliates of the Aryan Nations Sadistic Souls MC, another Nazi group. This is the SPLC’s vicious handiwork, treated as “fact” by the media.

After protests by those miscast as “haters,” CNN changed its headline to "The Southern Poverty Law Center’s list of hate groups.”

Similar stories featuring the SPLC’s bogus “hate map” have popped up across the country, including one in the The Boston Globe headlined, “Where hate calls ‘home’ in Massachusetts.”

The following pro-family groups join Americans For Truth in having the distinct “honor” of being lied about by the cunningly deceptive, sleazy and, yes, downright evil SPLC:

Abiding Truth Ministries (Scott Lively)

Alliance Defending Freedom (the SPLC recently attacked Attorney General Jeff Sessions for addressing this group)

American College of Pediatricians (Dr. Michelle Cretella)

American Family Association (Tim Wildmon)

American Vision

Center for Family and Human Rights (C-FAM; Austin Ruse)

Citizens for Community Values

Conservative Republicans of Texas (Dr. Steve Hotze)

Family Research Council (Tony Perkins)

Family Research Institute (Dr. Paul Cameron)

Heterosexuals Organized for a Moral Environment (H.O.M.E.)

Illinois Family Institute

Liberty Counsel (Mat Staver)

Mass Resistance (and its chapters in various states; Brian Camenker)

Mission: America (Linda Harvey)

Pacific Justice Institute (Brad Dacus)

Pass the Salt Ministries (Coach Dave Daubenmire)

Pray in Jesus Name Project (“Chaps” Klingenschmitt)

Public Advocate of the United States (Eugene Delgaudio)

Ruth Institute (Jennifer Roback Morse)

Save California (Randy Thomasson)

Traditional Values Coalition (Andrea Sheldon)

World Congress of Families/Howard Center for Family, Religion and Society (Allan Carlson)
As you can see, this is quite a large group, representing many millions of Americans and including some of the most accomplished and effective pro-family leaders in the United States. Who knew that these great Americans were the moral equivalents of neo-Nazi Stormtroopers and the Ku Klux Klan?

Hating truth

They are not, of course. Not even close. Could it be that leftists who deliberately conflate mere opposition to the LGBTQ agenda — a revolutionary sin movement that has destroyed the sanctity of marriage in the law and is leading the assault on citizens’ right to live according to the dictates of their faith with hatred— are the ones truly guilty of hate-mongering?

Common sense and logic tell us that those who resist a deviant-sex movement that has produced such profound evils as “pregnant men”; perversion-positive “Christianity”; and teaching little children that they can “become” the opposite sex though medical manipulations of their young bodies, are motivated not by malice or bigotry but rather a heartfelt desire to ward off the social destruction that comes from celebrating unnatural behaviors.

There is a popular saying in Christian, pro-family circles today: “Those who hate the truth call truth hate.”

I believe that at some level that is true, because when “journalists” cavalierly repeat politically calculated tripe like the SPLC’s “hate” smear as if it is authoritative and meaningful, they demonstrate contempt for sincere people of faith simply trying to follow God.

Besides, one of the “old school” rules of “fair” journalism is that in covering a cultural debate, you do not rely on one group’s biased characterization of its opponents, to preserve the ideal of a disinterested, neutral news story. Of course, those days are long gone as most media have shorn any pretense of objectivity and are increasingly fanatical cheerleaders for Big Gay and Big Trans. (What’s next, Big Poly?)

Go with the Big Lie

And so we behold a Fourth Estate very much interested and dutiful in advancing the “narrative” of one side of the “culture war” over homosexuality and “transgenderism,” using the noble-sounding cover of “civil rights.” Most media don’t even bother anymore to get viewpoints of the “other side” on this issue, or if they do, it’s often just a token quote to help reporters feel like they’re being fair.

This makes the SPLC’s goal of advancing its bold, pro-LGBT “hate” lie much easier than it should be.

It turns out that the “Big Lie” tactic attributed to Hitler was something he accused “the Jews” of doing in his 1925 autobiography, Mein Kampf, years before he led a demonization- and then genocidal government campaign against them. But history records that the mustached Nazi dictator and his henchmen (most notably Nazi propaganda minister Josef Goebbels) became masters of the tactic, ultimately using it as part of their horrifyingly evil program against Jews, Poles, and other “undesirables.”

Hitler wrote: “For the grossly impudent lie always leaves traces behind it, even after it has been nailed down, a fact which is known to all expert liars in this world and to all who conspire together in the art of lying.”

Today’s leftist liars understand this harsh reality and know that their “end justifies the means” approach toward delegitimizing pro-family conservatives as “hateful” bigots yields big political and cultural dividends — and scares the media away from featuring conservatives in their stories.

So rather than oppose pro-family groups civilly on public-policy issues concerning homosexuality and gender confusion (transgenderism), the Left resorts to a sophisticated version of name-calling. It began in the post-Stonewall ‘70s, as radical “gay” activists held up signs equating prominent religious opponents of organized homosexuality, like Anita Bryant, with Hitler.

From there it went to tarring their foes as “homophobes,” a term invented by pro-“gay” psychologist George Weinberg, who neatly flipped the pathology from homosexual behavior itself to opposing homosexuality.

Ultimately, the SPLC “codified” that Big Lie, as it were, with its “hate-labeling” strategy that preposterously mixes Christian, pro-family groups opposed to the LGBTQ (Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender, Queer) Lobby with vile neo-Nazis and white race-warriors.

The SPLC claims it is not demonizing moral and religious opposition to homosexuality but only the methods that the above conservative groups use to oppose the LGBTQ movement, but this is an absurd technicality. In another column, I will expose the arbitrariness of the SPLC’s “criteria” for determining which groups belong on its “anti-LGBT” “hate map.”

‘I’m not a hater?’

And yet, despicable as the SPLC’s hate-smear campaign is, it is highly effective. Making the spurious charge against morality-defenders as “haters” is far easier to do in our post-Christian, morally dumbed-down culture than defending oneself against the loaded accusation.

Indeed, forcing conservatives and Christians to plead defensively, “I’m not … ” is part of the SPLC’s propaganda strategy. We have become a society of simplistic slogans, like “Love is love” and “marriage equality.” In such a culture, accusing good-hearted Christians and conservatives of “hating gays” merely because they oppose (very unhealthy) homosexual behavior, “gay marriage” and creating sin-based “rights” is par for the course.

Denying that you are a “hater” when the most powerful forces in society — media, corporations, academia — are matter-of-factly echoing the SPLC smear — is sort of like denying that you beat your wife. You would never beat your wife — you are called to love her sacrificially as Christ loved the Church — but suddenly you are accused of having abused her, by an organization lionized by the press. A cunning, well-funded organization masquerading as a “civil rights” champion whose allegations are repeated far and wide with an air of moral authority and respectability.

Your pleas about the falseness of the outrageous smear are shared by friends (some similarly accused of beating their wives) but together you are drowned out by a chorus of enemies who have won the sympathy of the corrupt media.

Your only hope for justice is that a large and growing army of people — aided by some counter-cultural media leaders — comes to your aid and exposes the hateful slanders and the wicked organization behind them, so that nobody will ever believe its lies again.

This is how we must counter the SPLC’s calculated, cynical “Big Lie” against people of faith who humbly set out to speak truth, in the love of Christ, about one of the most difficult issues of our age.

Next: The shoddy research, irrationality and arbitrariness of the SPLC’s LGBT “hate group” lie.

Sandy Shaw #fundie ezinearticles.com

(A review of James Cameron's latest)

Maybe we should expect spiritual outrageousness from Hollywood by now. After all, they hardly seem to be able to make a spiritual statement in their movies without alienating every Christian in the audience. They have been warned about this before. Michael Medved has stated that Hollywood loses billions of dollars simply by offending Christians and church-goers, who number in the hundreds of millions in America. They often don't seem to care.

But Avatar takes this to a new extreme. Many critics have commented that it has a deeply pro-environmentalist message, and indeed, it seems almost loaded with every touchy-feely New Age environmentalist theme that you can imagine....

It always strikes me as sad when these great breakthroughs in the arts fail to glorify the One who gave us creativity in the first place. Sadly, this is one of those times, and I understand that is why, even after the awe and wonder of seeing one of the greatest visual spectacles of our age, my friend left the theatre feeling pretty flat. I wonder how many others felt the same - even non-Christians. I wonder how many left sensing there was something very wrong at the core of this story. I would guess there might be quite a few.

There have been a lot of complaints about the storyline. Even many non-Christians may not like seeing the "Earth mother goddess" getting all the glory, which is why I gather that this movie will never take top spot as the most-watched film in history, despite all the money spent on it.

Will Hollywood learn its lesson? I strongly doubt it. Hollywood has a very unique agenda and thousands are taken in and deceived.

Will I go and see it for myself? Probably not!

Natasha I #fundie answers.yahoo.com

U speak like this roasting you in fire will be sprung upon you. YOU HAVE UR WHOLE LIFE to do what this God of Love has asked of you and then on the last day you want to cry like you did not know!!!

Yes you will roast in fire because this God of Love has given you free will to choose ur actions and do as you please but He has also shown you the right way to go but you choose not to, for the entirety of ur life until ur last breadth, what u get at the end you deserve!!!

HeteroDefenseLeague #fundie youtube.com

Homosexuals are instructed by Kirk & Madsen to couch all their talking points in terms of them being victims.

So when they want to take away parental rights and indoctrinate, recruit and molest your children, if you oppose that, homos say you're a hate filled homophobic bigot discriminating against them.

What propagandist liars they are.

Ken Ham #fundie answersingenesis.org

Bill Nye and Bananas

Recently, I walked with Bill Nye “the Science Guy” through the three decks of our life-size Ark in Northern Kentucky. It turned out to be our second debate; the first one was 2014 in the Creation Museum. This latest debate lasted about two hours. (For the background, see “Bill Nye Visits the Ark Encounter.”)

After his Ark tour, Bill made many public statements about his visit. He reportedly said that the Ark was “much more troubling or disturbing than I thought it would be.” NBC News reported, “Nye said the exhibit encourages visitors to trust faith over science and thereby undercuts their ability to engage in critical thinking.”

But here’s what is really disturbing and troubling. Nye wants to convince all children to believe that they are just animals who arose by natural processes—and that there’s no God! The implications of this belief on the question of the meaning and purpose of life are beyond serious!

Nye also claims that the exhibits inside the Ark encourage visitors to “trust faith over science.” Actually, our exhibits show quite conclusively that observational science in the fields of geology, genetics, and anthropology confirm biblical history concerning man, animals, and the Flood of Noah’s day. In reality, it’s Bill Nye who has the blind faith to believe that somehow life arose by natural processes. And his evidence? That DNA, including its information and language system, arising by natural processes, came about to the fact that “we’re here.”

Lord Tebbit #fundie guardian.co.uk

The determination of David Cameron to press ahead with legalising gay marriage opens up the possibility of a lesbian queen giving birth to a future monarch by artificial insemination, Lord Tebbit has warned...

"I said to a minister I know: have you thought this through? Because you're doing the law of succession, too.

"When we have a queen who is a lesbian and she marries another lady and then decides she would like to have a child and someone donates sperm and she gives birth to a child, is that child heir to the throne?"

Tebbit joked that the change could allow parents to marry their children as a way of avoiding inheritance tax. "It's like one of my colleagues said: we've got to make these same sex marriages available to all. It would lift my worries about inheritance tax because maybe I'd be allowed to marry my son. Why not? Why shouldn't a mother marry her daughter? Why shouldn't two elderly sisters living together marry each other?"

David J. Stewart #fundie jesusisprecious.org

In his religious film, FIREPROOF, starring Lordship Salvation reprobate Kirk Cameron, Kendrick portrays the husband as addicted to porn, problematic and distant from his wife. However, the film never rebukes the wife for her adultery, rebellious spirit and sins. The film dares not portray the wife in a negative view, but condemns the husband. This is feminism's motto: DAMN THE MAN! Christian leaders are wimps these days, cowards who are afraid to preach the Biblical truth of wifely submission, and that women belong at home instead of the workplace, and wives are commanded to obey their husbands (1st Timothy 5:14-15; Ephesians 5:22).

If your church's young girls and ladies wear modest dresses, skorts and culottes at your soul-winning Baptist church; don't hobnob and share activities with a worldly neo-evangelical church, where the young girls and women wear dress pants, pants, short skirts and sexy skirts. It's pretty bad when a man has to struggle with his thoughts at church, because the women of the church dress promiscuously and seductive. The Bible teaches Christian separation from the heathen world, which includes Ecclesiastical separation of doctrinally sound preachers from heretical pastors like Dr. John MacArthur (2nd Corinthians 6:14-17).

When King James Bible Bible-believing churches send their young people to apostate Bible colleges, where they use the modern counterfeit Bible versions, it's just a matter of years until all of those students become neo-evangelicals who use umpteen Bible versions. A King James Bible only church ought NEVER send your youth to a Bible university or college where they use anything other than, or in addition to, the King James Bible. If they allow the New King James Bible, rip up your enrollment application and start over looking for a godly Bible college. I love the Lord Jesus Christ, which is why I fuss so much about the Bible, because all of the allegedly “easier-to-understand” Bible versions change key passages concerning Christ. That's Satan attacking the Holy Bible! Thank God for the trustworthy King James Bible!

Wulf Ingessunu #fundie wodenism.blogspot.co.uk

THREE CHEERS FOR MR DAVID CAMERON -
Reading one of the national newspapers (which I only do at the most once a week) I spotted a bit by Mr Cameron on his 'greatest achievement for 2014' which was the law allowing 'same-sex marriages'. Can someone please inform Mr Cameron of the Eternal Laws relating to this -

Male + Male = 0

Female + Female = 0

Male + Female = Child

When this Eternal Law is broken our Folk cannot survive, since without children there will be no future generations. People should question why Mr Cameron wishes this upon our Folk!

The second 'achievement' mentioned by our Mr Cameron is that Britain has the fastest-growing economy; before we pat ourselves on the back for this, it has only come about by including in our economy drugs and prostitution. What sort of sick society bases their economy on drugs and prostitution? More to the point is that we have here the reason the 'War against Drugs' never actually achieves anything - for if it did our economy would fail. It is the small petty drug-dealers on the street that are caught, and they can be replaced.

All this gives us good reason to put more and more effort into creating a Spiritual Revolution that will put an end to this hell-on-earth created by the Dark Forces that rule us today. We need to be even more fanatical about this in the sense of an urgency, since things are getting worse and worse in this land.

David J. Stewart #fundie jesus-is-savior.com

All over the internet, a former Roman Catholic priest and admitted homosexual, Henri Nouwen (1932-1996), is being promoted as a “MUST READ!” I plead with anyone reading my words that you NOT read Mr. Nouwen's ungodly writings...

Henri Nouwen is a complicated figure. He was a Roman Catholic priest whose influence extended far beyond Roman Catholicism. His ecumenical appeal made more angular Catholics nervous, and his Protestant readers gave “qualified” appreciation. While Nouwen wasn’t a liberal, his life and work is a product of a Vatican II age. It came out after his death that he was gay, though he remained celibate and trusted the church’s teaching. Despite his chaste life, his presence in the gay community and his work with AIDS advocacy in the 1980s often made more religious conservatives nervous.

SOURCE: https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/reviews/love-henri

If that doesn't make you disgusted enough, it gets much worse. One of the most ungodly men in the religious world for the past 50 years has been Evangelist Billy Graham, who is the founder of ChristianityToday (CT) magazine! CT actually praises Henri Nouwen as a great spiritual man, in an article authored by Wesley Hill, titled, “Weakness Was His Strength.” Folks, homosexual feelings are sinful, just as adulterous feelings are sinful. CT needs to decry homosexuality as a vile sin, not just a “weakness.” The lame excuse that I often hear is that everyone already knows homosexuality is a sin, and instead of making people feel bad about their sins, we ought to emphasis God's love. This is Pastor Joel Osteen's wrong attitude. The truth is that such flawed and unbiblical reasoning is being used by Satan to gain sympathy, and thus tolerance and acceptable, of the sodomite community!!!

Henri Nouwen should be an abomination to Christians, not a hero. I keep reading that Mr. Nouwen was honoring his vow of celibacy as a Catholic priest, but vow or no vow is not the issue... HOMOSEXUALITY IS AN ABOMINABLE SIN TO GOD!!! (Leviticus 20:13).

Agonaces of Susa #fundie christianforums.com

I can't speak for AV but I interpret scientism as being a fundamentalist religious cult belief that atheist scientists are infallible and have a monopoly on truth.

The corollary to this is that Wikipedia should be treated as infallible holy scriptures that can never be questioned.

So for example, scientism states that viruses can give birth to humans, meteorites do not exist because they are in the Bible, parthenogenesis is impossible because Mary was a virgin, the Milky Way is the entire universe because Harlow Shapley said so, etc.

professor #fundie atheistforums.org

["The presence of the anti-christ? I can't wade through 42 pages of people making fun of a likely idiot but let me guess...

Obama is the Anti-Christ.]

You got it Tj,
This is hot off the press- the day before 9-11 Obama had a video-
President Obama addresses the nation on the ISIL.... (by the White House) on youtube.
I am telling you that the address was completely Computer Graphics.

One clue is there are frames missing on the time line at the beginning and at the end.
At the end, O goes from being before the podium to having his back turned and being 15 feet away in one frame - one second.
And yet in the vid he walks away. Same at the beginning- no frames but he takes 6 steps to the podium.
Check it out.

I don't want to derail this post but this info is connected-

"and he had power to give life to the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak........" Rev 13:15
My perception is this is a test run for the new tech.
Interestingly I am told, the patent is called, Animating the beast.

I fully realize I will be roasted for posting the above, but I wanted to get this out there, because the level of deception will be rising dramatically.
It says in scripture that he deceives the whole world.
I want you guys to NOT be deceived.

Hakeem Muhammad #fundie patheos.com

Moreover, Imam Hamza Yusuf’s analysis obfuscates the manner in which the very judicial system discriminates against non-white ways of being in the world even in the manifestation of so-called anti-discrimination laws. Kenneth Nunn writes,”The very form that legal reasoning and legal analysis takes affirms white Eurocentric culture.”

Nunn argues that the law inherently portrays subjective, arational, intuitive thought as inferior and yet these ways of knowing are inherent in African and Native American culture. Thus, the judicial system of America is replete with Eurocentric ways of knowing which need to be addressed and combated instead of praised.

Reason&Hope #fundie rr-bb.com

(In response to Republican Senator Mark Kirk stating he is supporting same sex marriage)

Intense pressure is being applied to these people. Threats, blackmail where applicable. And so many people don't know how to phrase support for traditional marriage in a way that doesn't sound 'mean' to modernist ears. I was on a fb thread for World Mag. yesterday (a Christian magazine, btw) and someone posted about how the pro-gay marriage side is the only 'loving and caring' side.

I've noticed the snowball effect too - more like an avalanche actually. This idea arose from nothing and is about to take over the culture. Even gay activists weren't interested in gay marriage until very recently, but now it's the mark of who is nice or not!

The thing is, every time the Christians, or the Republicans, cave on a social issue, the Left comes up with another social issue to beat us over the head. They're not interested in rights so much as in hurting us.

Brother Jonathan #fundie answers.yahoo.com

Did Noah love the taste of roast dinosaur?
Where are these lost recipes?
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Well, it's entirely possible, especially after the Flood.

Any recipes, I think, were lost in translation after the Tower of Babel debacle. Or, maybe they were cast aside after they feasted on the last helping of T(yrannosaurus rex)-bone steaks!

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David J. Stewart #fundie godlovespeople.com

I love the illustration of standing on a chair to change a lightbulb. Even if I am 99% sure that the chair is too shaky and won't be able to support my entire weight, it is still nothing less than 100% faith if I stand upon the chair. Of course, in reality no one in their right mind would stand upon a shaky looking chair that they were convinced wouldn't support them. Albeit, it would still be 100% faith if I did choose to stand upon the chair unaided by a helper, rope or something to cling to in case I fall.

Please understand that optimism (a positive outlook) is NOT faith. I could stand there all day proclaiming how much I believe the chair will hold me up if I were to stand upon it. I can say loud and confidently, “I believe! Boy, brother, you've just got to believe! I believe that this chair can hold me up!” But that is NOT faith at all, not even in the least, because I am not standing upon the chair. So even in the presence of great optimism, I can have no faith at all. That's what Modernists and Roman Catholics have, that is, they really think they're going to Heaven, but they've never trusted Christ. Catholics instead trust their church and the seven sacraments to save them. Modernists trust their humanism, self-righteous works and new age spiritism.

In sharp contrast, the Biblical Christian rests completely in the finished redemptive work of Jesus Christ, standing upon the chair (which pictures Christ in our example). Saying you believe that Christ can save you is not faith, anymore than saying you think the chair can support your weight is trust in the chair. Even if you have 99% doubt in the Bible, God will save you if you'll believe the gospel. That is, if you'll personally receive Christ's death upon the cross, His burial and bodily resurrection from the dead as payment for your sins, you will be saved.

All mankind are sinners. As such we are all under the condemnation of God's law. There is a price for sin that we all owe to God. That price is spending eternity burning in the Lake of Fire! Consequently, we need to find someone who doesn't owe that price, someone who is not condemned, someone who can pay that price for us. Blessed be the name of the Lord, Jesus is the Christ Who paid the price for our sins with His own blood! Jesus was miraculously born of a virgin, lived a totally sinless life, and was accepted by God the Father as a well-pleasing sacrifice for the sins of the world. JESUS PAID THE PRICE!

Romans 4:5-6, “But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness. Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works.” Notice that we just read a man's “faith is counted for righteousness.” That is so important to understand. It means that all the heretics requiring intent to reform as part of salvation are liars, wrong and false prophets! This includes Aiden Tozer, John MacArthur, Jack Chick, David Cloud, William Lane Craig, Ray Comfort, Kirk Cameron, Benny Hinn, Eric Hovind, Paul Taylor and thousands more. Jesus is Lord, you don't make Him Lord! You simply trust Jesus to be saved.