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Keith Kilgore #fundie wnd.com

(Father blames son's suicide on biology class and Richard Dawkins' "The God Delusion")

A New York man is linking the suicide of his 22-year-old son, a military veteran who had bright prospects in college, to the anti-Christian book "The God Delusion" by Richard Dawkins after a college professor challenged the son to read it.

"Three people told us he had taken a biology class and was doing well in it, but other students and the professor were really challenging my son, his faith. They didn't like him as a Republican, as a Christian, and as a conservative who believed in intelligent design," the grief-stricken father, Keith Kilgore, told WND about his son, Jesse.

"This professor either assigned him to read or challenged him to read a book, 'The God Delusion,' by Richard Dawkins," he said.

Jesse Kilgore committed suicide in October by walking into the woods near his New York home and shooting himself. Keith Kilgore said he was shocked because he believed his son was grounded in Christianity, had blogged against abortion and for family values, and boasted he'd been debating for years.

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After Jesse's death, Keith Kilgore learned of the book assignment from two of his son's friends and a relative. He searched Jesse's room and found the book under the mattress with his son's bookmark on the last page.

A WND message seeking a comment from Dawkins or his publisher was not returned today.

Ken Ham #fundie answersingenesis.org

Can Dawkins Disprove God in 5 Steps?

Can the idea of a Creator God be easily dismissed in just five steps? Well, atheist and anti-theist Richard Dawkins certainly thinks so!

He recently appeared on a Norwegian-Swedish television show called Skavlan where he quickly dismissed the idea of God by ticking off on his fingers five arguments for God.

Dawkins starts by equating God with fairies, and then says that “the onus is not upon an atheist to say why there is not something, the onus is on a theist to say why there is.” Well, Dr. Richard Dawkins, the onus will actually be on each person on judgment day when he stands before God. And no excuses will be enough when we stand before Him. In the end, every person will bow before Christ and acknowledge Him as Lord (Philippians 2:10–11). You can either do so voluntarily now or by compulsion later.

Dawkins then says that “there simply are no reasons for the existence of a God.” But, of course, this doesn’t mean there actually aren’t any reasons for God’s existence. It simply shows his anti-God bias. He then mentions a few of the common arguments used to demonstrate that there is a God.

Design Exists Because of Darwinian Natural Selection?

Dawkins begins with the argument from design. Now, Scripture is clear that everyone is without excuse for not believing in God because His creation clearly shows that He exists (Romans 1:20). But Dawkins dismisses the powerful argument from design in nature simply by saying that we should expect design because that’s what Darwinian natural selection does, “it makes them look as though they’re designed.” According to Dawkins, “Darwin has exploded once and for all the argument from design.” Dawkins recognizes that things do look designed, but says that the most likely explanation, a Designer, isn’t the case—natural selection simply does it. But what he never explains is how natural selection—a process that only works by decreasing or re-shuffling existing genetic information—is supposed to add the massive amounts of new information that are required to get the complexity we see today from a simple single-celled organism over millions of years. How do you get from simple pond scum to highly complex people without adding massive amounts of new genetic information? You can’t!

People Hallucinate or Are Fooled?

Dawkins next dismisses personal testimony by saying that people hallucinate or are fooled with relative ease. Now, subjective personal experience does need to be weighed carefully (see 1 Thessalonians 5:21), but what I would like to ask Dawkins is the same question Bill Nye was asked during our 2014 debate: where did consciousness (which is needed for our experiences) come from? Nye was at a loss to explain this “great mystery” as he called it and Dawkins likely would be too.

Of course, God’s Word tells us exactly where consciousness (and everything else!) came from—God Himself (Genesis 1:27, 2:7). And, furthermore, in a godless world, how do you even know what truth really is when you have no objective standard for determining truth? Who is to say who is right and who is wrong? As Pilate asked Jesus, without God and His Word, “What is truth?” (John 18:38). And if we are just random chemical accidents, why should we trust anything that comes from our brain anyway? If Dawkins’ worldview is true, then he can’t trust anything that comes from his brain either! It’s ultimately a self-defeating argument. We can only know what truth is because there is a God and He has ordered this world and has given us His Word.

If God Is the First Cause, Then Where Did God Come From?

Next is the argument of the first cause. This argument, in a nutshell, states that everything must have a cause, including the universe. Now, Dawkins dismisses this argument by saying that if God is the first cause, then where did God come from? Frankly, it’s a silly response. God is outside of space and time—in fact, He created these things. He didn’t have a beginning and He will have no end (Psalm 90:2). And if there was someone who created God, then it would be a bigger God, and then a bigger-bigger God would need to create that God, and then a bigger-bigger-bigger God would need to create that God, and so on to infinity. This is silly. If He needed to be created, He wouldn’t be God. But God doesn’t need a Creator; He is self-existent.

Darwin Explains How We Got Here Without God?

Dawkins then explains that Darwin shows how everything got here without the need for God. But Darwin was simply wrong because everything we see in observational science confirms the history of the universe from God’s Word, not Darwin’s ideas—kinds reproduce according to their kinds; we don’t see new genetic information being added to produce brand-new features; life only comes from other life, never from non-life. Life did not originate by itself; it was created by our all-wise Creator.

Pascal’s Wager a Silly Argument?

Lastly, Dawkins addresses the so-called Pascal’s wager, which says that it’s better to believe in God, live a godly life, and be wrong when you die than to reject God and die and go to hell. He says that this is a “silly argument” and that there is no way of knowing if you’ve bet on the right god or not. But I submit that only the God of the Bible makes sense of this world. God alone has left us a coherent Scripture that does not contradict itself and is historically and scientifically accurate in all it says.

But Dawkins does get one thing (sort of) right in his short video in reference to Pascal’s wager. He says that perhaps the God of the Bible would not prefer someone who “slavishly pretends to believe something.” Scripture is clear that God sees the heart, not external signs of worship or belief (1 Samuel 16:7). No one will get to heaven by “slavishly” pretending to believe in God. Salvation only comes by truly believing and trusting in Jesus Christ and His work on the Cross to pay for our sin debt (Romans 10:9–10). That’s the good news of the gospel—salvation is a free gift to those who will put their faith in Christ.

My heart breaks for people like Dawkins who are utterly lost and who, unless they repent and believe in Christ, will face an eternity separated from God in hell. All of their seemingly clever arguments against God will amount to nothing when they stand before His judgment throne. If you are like Dawkins, or even if you believe in God but have not trusted in Christ for salvation, I encourage you to listen to the good news and believe in Christ and be saved.

Thanks for stopping by and thanks for praying,
Ken

This item was written with the assistance of AiG’s research team.

Jesse Kilgore #fundie worldnetdaily.com

Dad links son's suicide to 'The God Delusion'

A New York man is linking the suicide of his 22-year-old son, a military veteran who had bright prospects in college, to the anti-Christian book "The God Delusion" by Richard Dawkins after a college professor challenged the son to read it.

"Three people told us he had taken a biology class and was doing well in it, but other students and the professor were really challenging my son, his faith. They didn't like him as a Republican, as a Christian, and as a conservative who believed in intelligent design," the grief-stricken father, Keith Kilgore, told WND about his son, Jesse.

"This professor either assigned him to read or challenged him to read a book, 'The God Delusion,' by Richard Dawkins," he said.

Jesse Kilgore committed suicide in October by walking into the woods near his New York home and shooting himself. Keith Kilgore said he was shocked because he believed his son was grounded in Christianity, had blogged against abortion and for family values, and boasted he'd been debating for years.

After Jesse's death, Keith Kilgore learned of the book assignment from two of his son's friends and a relative. He searched Jesse's room and found the book under the mattress with his son's bookmark on the last page.

A WND message seeking a comment from Dawkins or his publisher was not returned today.

Ken Ham #fundie answersingenesis.org

Will There Be a National Darwin Day?

Will Darwin Day be honored as a national holiday here in America? Well, a resolution was reintroduced to the US House of Representatives recently to recognize Charles Darwin’s birthday (February 12, 2016) as a national holiday because of many absurd reasons. There has since been an additional resolution from a Democratic Senator that would show Congressional support for the Darwin Day distinction.

Now, some of the reasons listed nationally for celebrating Darwin, who of course was not an American, include the following:

•Charles Darwin’s theory of evolution by the mechanism of natural selection, together with the monumental amount of scientific evidence he compiled to support it, provides humanity with a logical and intellectually compelling explanation for the diversity of life on Earth.

•It has been the human curiosity and ingenuity exemplified by Darwin that has promoted new scientific discoveries that have helped humanity solve many problems and improve living conditions.

•The teaching of creationism in some public schools compromises the scientific and academic integrity of the United States education systems.

•Charles Darwin is a worthy symbol of scientific advancement on which to focus and around which to build a global celebration of science and humanity intended to promote a common bond among all of Earth’s peoples.

These are terrible reasons to make Darwin Day a national holiday. Putting aside the fact that Darwin was not an American, Darwinian evolution has no confirmation in observational science. What we see in the world is consistent with God’s Word, not evolutionary ideas about the past, and much of what we observe actually contradicts evolutionary ideas.

Darwin isn’t a great example of “human curiosity and ingenuity”—he was compelled to come up with a way to explain life without God because he rejected God. Although AiG doesn’t lobby for it because creation would probably be poorly represented by teachers, mandating that creation be taught alongside evolution doesn’t compromise “scientific and academic integrity”—if done properly, it promotes critical thinking and inspires a desire to learn more about God’s creation.

And Darwin isn’t a “worthy symbol” of the promotion of “a common bond among all of Earth’s peoples.” He was racist and his ideas were racist! Choosing Darwin as the symbol of “scientific advancement” instead of many more worthy and less controversial figures like Newton, Mendel, or Pasteur seems to be nothing more than an attempt to push the anti-God religion of secularism on the nearly half of Americans who believe in a Creator.

Proposed Holiday Shows How Anti-God Our Society Has Become

This proposed new holiday only emphasizes how anti-God our society has become. Christian holidays like Christmas or Easter have been secularized to the point where Nativity scenes and crosses are being taken out of public places, yet a secular figure whose ideas on the origin of life are a major tenet of the secular religion of humanism can be publicly applauded and celebrated. It’s not really Darwin who’s being celebrated on Darwin Day, it’s an anti-God religion and its foundation of evolution and millions of years that’s being celebrated. Actually, the intolerant secularists (intolerant of Christianity in particular) are now wanting more and more to impose their anti-God religion on the culture.

On the home page of the International Darwin Day website (a website that promotes the celebration of Darwin around the world) scrolls several phrases: “Let’s celebrate intellectual bravery . . . perpetual curiosity . . . hunger for truth . . . Let’s celebrate Darwin Day.” It should be more like “let’s celebrate man’s fallible ideas being trusted over God’s infallible Word!” This is really a worship of man, a worship of the god of self.

Darwin Day is a day that celebrates the legacy of a man who elevated his own fallible ideas over God’s Word. Darwin took the things he observed—natural selection and adaptation—and leapt to the conclusion that these small, observable changes within a kind could lead to huge, unobserved (and still unobserved!) changes between kinds. But his ideas still have no observational corroboration. What we see in nature is kinds that reproduce according to their kinds with only limited amounts of variation within the kind. We do see common designs in all of creation but that is explained by a common Designer, not common descent. This is consistent with God’s Word, not Darwin’s imaginations about the past.

This February 12, I encourage you to celebrate the truth of God’s unchanging Word. Use “Darwin Day” as a springboard for conversations with your friends and family about the flaws of evolution and show them how observational science confirms God’s Word from the beginning. And then challenge people that the history in the Bible—starting with Genesis—is true, and that’s why the gospel based in that history is true.

Thanks for stopping by and thanks for praying,
Ken

This item was written with the assistance of AiG’s research team.

dustyk103 #wingnut #fundie liberalsbackwardsthink.com

This is what all leftists do. They lie, cheat, steal, and will kill to get what they want. The definition of the Left vs. the Right is not their paradigm of the far right being Nazis vs. the far left being Communists and they are somehow the centrists. The Left is anti-God, anti-morality, anti-human being, and strictly pro-barbarian, pro-hedonist, and pro-savage, while the right is the opposite. When they believe barbarism is superior to civilization, that their anti-God religion is better than loving God, that mankind is a virus killing Mother Earth, it’s no wonder they want us to give up technology to save the planet and live in teepees without electricity or medicine. But, they say, we’ll be in Utopia living as one with nature as God intended. What do they, who hate God, know of God?

fieldmarshaldj #fundie freerepublic.com

Are you insane? Their very inspiration comes from Satan himself: their Allah. Their book is evil to the core. Their actions in spreading this cursed abomination are evil. They cannot be our allies EVER, because they are anti-God and anti-Christ.

The left is THEIR ally because they are also anti-God and anti-Christ and they serve the purposes of the Islamicists in destroying Western Civilization and Judeo-Christian values. The Mohammadans and their leftist terrorist allies must ALL be destroyed completely and forever.

David J. Stewart #fundie jesus-is-savior.com

People have been asking me what secular albums are "safe" to listen to. As a good guideline, ask yourself this... "Does the band / music you wish to listen to include any of the following themes:

Rebellion
Violence
Nihilism (belief in nothing) / Apathy
Escapism / Suicide
Drugs / Alcoholism
Sexual Perversion / Fornication / Pornography

Self-Mutilation
Dissonant / Offensive Sound
The Occult / Satanism
Anti-God / Anti-Authority
Cult-like Organization, Terrorism

If so, you should steer well clear. The Bible, God's Word, teaches us anything that promotes or embraces any of these factors is predominantly anti-Christian, and against all that God's Word stands for. The following are just a few God-haters you should definitely avoid like the plague...

Rock Music: Straight From The Pits Of Hell!

AC/DC: song Hell's Bells, inspired "Night Stalker" serial killer, pentagrams on album art (Highway to Hell), violent cover art (If You Want Blood You Got It), guitarist admitted to being 'possessed' while on stage. Band-name AC/DC purportedly stands for Assault Christians Destroy Christians. Promote pedophilia (guitarist dresses like a school boy on stage), extremely offensive and harsh sound, produces a spirit of hatred and anger. Lead singer, Bon Scott "drank himself to death" at age 33. Avoid this band like the plague.

Aerosmith: drug and alcohol abuse, equating sex and religion on "Angel," glorifying homosexuality and cross-dressing on “Dude looks like a lady”

Agnostic Front: violent and rebellion-themed album art (Cause for Alarm)

Amen: objectionable album art (Disorderly Conduct)

Anthrax: violent album art (Fistful of Metal)

Bad Religion: objectionable band name, objectionable album art (Back to the Known)

Bauhaus: backwards Latin Satanic incantation in "Father, Son and Holy Ghost", Satanic imagery, anti-Christian lyrics

Beach Boys: Brian Wilson said they were trying to create "witchcraft music" in 1966. One band member drowned when he fell drunk off a boat

Beastie Boys: more than 90 references to drug and alcohol abuse on Licensed to Kill

Beatles: promote Communism in "Back in the USSR," sexually degenerate lyrics... "Why don't we do it in the road (1968)," rebellion, fornication, false religion (Catholicism and Eastern Mysticism). Lennon called Jesus a 'garlic eating fascist bastard.' Paul McCartney is an admitted atheist. 'Sgt. Peppers' album cover has Aleister Crowley's face on it

Billy Idol: rebellion, fake crucifixion in "Hot in the City" video, mock crosses in "White Wedding" video, has 'Idol’ as name (Blasphemy - There shall be NO Idols before God)

Birthday Party: likened Jesus to "bad seed", indecipherable lyrics about "post-crucifixion baby"

Black Flag: violent and suicide-themed album art (Family Man)

Black Market Baby: objectionable band name and album art (Senseless Offerings)

Black Sabbath: number of the beast, crucifixion imagery, objectionable album art (Born Again, Sabbath Bloody Sabbath)

Blink 182: rebellion, tattoos, perverted lyrics about sexually abusing animals (F*ck a dog)

Blaspheme: objectionable band name and album art (Last Supper)

Blue Oyster Cult: the occult, promotes Satan worship in the song 'Don't Fear The Reaper'

Boston: promotes fornication, wild immoral parties, drug abuse, indifference, smoking pot, lead singer commit suicide in March 2007 (left a suicide note saying, "I am a lonely soul")

Britney Spears: bi-sexual whore, promotes sexual immorality, lasciviousness, and feminist rebellion

Carlos Santana: Says he's been communicating with a demon named "Metatron" regularly since 1994, promotes New Age, immorality.

Cheap Trick: promote rebellion against parents, fornication

Celtic Frost: use crucifix as slingshot on album cover (To MegaTherion), occult links, rebellion

Christian Death: Gnosticism, sex- and occult-themed album art (Only Theatre of Pain, The Scriptures, Sex and Drugs and Jesus Christ, What's the Verdict)

Coil: devotees of Aleister Crowley

Alice Cooper: on-stage mutilation, rebellion, "School's Out" prevents mice from solving mazes, objectionable album art (Constrictor)

Cramps: "degraded" sexuality (Date With Elvis)

Crass: crucifixion-themed album art (Christ the Album, Yes Sir I Will)

Crown of Thorns: objectionable band name and album art (Pictures)

Cure (The): alcohol abuse, blasphemy in "The Blood" and "Holy Hour", Satanic imagery in artwork

Cradle of Filth: openly satanic music, t-shirts proclaiming 'Jesus is a c*nt, mockery of Christ, anti-Christian lyrics

Danzig: Use satanic imagery

Damned: crown of thorns imagery (Grimly Fiendish)

Dark Angel: objectionable band name and album art (Darkness Descends)

Dark Wizard: objectionable album art (Reign of Evil)

David Bowie: occult, recorded "Quicksand" about Crowley. Promotes rebellion in "Rebel, rebel."

dc Talk: This so-called "Christian" Rock band is of the Devil. DC Talk's Kevin Max Says, "I'd love to hang out with him [Marylyn Manson]." They also promote Jesus as being a "freak."

Dead Kennedys: objectionable album art (In God We Trust, Inc.)

Death: objectionable album art (Scream Bloody Gore)

Death Cult: objectionable album art (Death Cult)

Def Leppard: Promotes pornography in the song, "photograph"

Depeche Mode: songs about sex and sadomasochism, recorded "Blasphemous Rumors"

Deftones: rebellious message, encourages violence

Deicide: vocalist claims to be antichrist, burns inverted crosses on his head, blasphemous lyrics, Satanic imagery

Diamanda Galas: recorded album Litanies of Satan, proclaimed herself the Anti-Christ ("Sono l'Antichristo"), provided music for voodoo-themed movie The Serpent and the Rainbow, objectionable album art (Divine Punishment)

Dickies: mock Jesus on album art (Second Coming)

Doors (The): Patricia (Kennealy) Morrison is a devout Wiccan witch.

Eagles: 'Hotel California' is a tribute to the Church of Satan, proven by COS founder Anton LaVey's picture inside the album cover.

Earth, Wind, and Fire: occult imagery on albums, promote New Age

Electric Hellfire Club: promotes Satanic ideologies

Elton John (Sir): open homosexual legally married to another man, promotes New Age

Elvis Presley: sexual degenerate, fornicator, music promotes lewdness and immorality

Eric Clapton: promotes drug abuse in the song 'Cocaine,' immorality, worldly lyrics

Eurhythmics: "Missionary Man" warns listeners away from salvation

Exodus: album art shows union of God and Satan

Fog Hat: promotes immoral sex

Foreigner: promotes sexual immorality in songs "Dirty White Boy" and "Urgent," also promote alcoholism in "Double Vision"

Frankie Goes to Hollywood: rebellion, songs about sex and sadomasochism, objectionable album art (Welcome to the Pleasure Dome), ruined Live Aid, homosexuality

Good Charlotte: nihilism, rebellious lyrics 'young and hopeless'

Godsmack: voodoo

Generation X: objectionable album art (Valley of the Dolls)

Guns 'n' Roses: "sexual violence" in music, album art; inverted cross (Appetite for Destruction), music caused Virginia Tech Massacre

Harvey Danger: promotes Satanism, nudity, blasphemes Jesus Christ, and mocks the King James Bible.

Helloween: objectionable album art (Keeper of the Seven Keys, Part 2), Has the word 'Hell’ in band name.

Impaler: objectionable album art (Rise of the Mutants EP), eating raw meat on stage

INXS: recorded song "Devil Inside," committed suicide

Iron Maiden: mascot Eddie told fan to kill himself; necromancy, occult, rebellion, objectionable album art (Killers, The Number of the Beast, Seventh Son of a Seventh Son)

Jimi Hendrix: hypnotizing people through music, voodoo rhythms, rebellion, violence, "If 6 Was 9" used in interstitials

Jane's Addiction: drug abuse, objectionable album art (Nothing is very shocking)
Judas Priest: suicide, rebellion, objectionable album art (Hell Bent for Leather, Sin After Sin)

Jimmy Page: "one of the leading occultists of the rock generation," owns occult bookstore, bought Aleister Crowley's former home and had it refurbished by a Satanic decorator

John Lennon: Original member of The Beatles and solo artists for many years. Blasphemed the name of Jesus Christ, promoted immoral sex, substance abuse, rebellion, Communism, false religion.

Killing Joke: mock Christianity in video, promote satanic ideologies

KISS: bloody stage show, sex, rebellion, violence, perverted bassist sticks his tongue out frequently (A major blasphemy in the Bible), band name KISS purportedly stands for Knights In Satan’s Service. Lead singer, Gene Simmons, claims publickly to have had sex with over 4,600 women in his lifetime

KMFDM: promote satanic ideologies, inspired Columbine High School Massacre

Kreator: objectionable album art (Pleasure to Kill)

Led Zeppelin: backward-masked messages and references to Pan on "Stairway to Heaven," Zoso = number of the beast. Guitarist Jimmy Page idolizes Satanist Aleister Crowley, and even bought his castle.

Linkin Park: encourage violence, rebellious lyrics

Madonna: bi-sexual whore, sexual degenerate, promotes fornication, rebellion, and Satan worship. In the song, "Beautiful Stranger," she mentions the 'Devil,' calls him beautiful, and says "To know you is to love you."

Marilyn Manson: too many evils to mention here, blasphemy, ties to Church of Satan, mocks God, rebellion. Manson tears up Bibles in concert and leads the audience to praise Satan.

Megadeth: occult, rebellion, objectionable album art (Killing Is My Business... And Business Is Good)

Mercyful Fate: "take their Satanism seriously", rebellion, occult, objectionable album art (Don't' Break the Oath)

Metal Church: objectionable album art (Metal Church)

Metallica: promote suicide on "Fade to Black"

Monster Magnet: Use occult symbols on album art

Moonspell: songs about vampirism, paganism

Motley Crüe: equate sex and violence, used pentagram in album art (Shout at the Devil)

Motörhead: crucifixion-themed album art

Mudvayne: promotes Satanic ideologies

My Life with the Thrill Kill Kult: Satanic message, objectionable album art (I See Good Spirits and I See Bad Spirits)

Neko Case: sings, "It's the Devil I love"

Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds: Satanic imagery

Ozzy Osbourne: rebellion, attacking Jim Bakker in "Miracle Man," Satanic imagery on album art (Blizzard of Ozz, No Rest for the Wicked), promote suicide on "Suicide Solution," released album 'Mr. Crowley' devoted to Aleister Crowley, scary face

Offspring: rebellion

Papa Roach: Use occult symbology on album art

Pink Floyd: lyrics about rebellion

Poison Idea: mutilation-themed album art (Kings of Punk)

Iggy Pop/the Stooges: bloodletting at concert

Nirvana: nihilism, anti-Christian lyrics, violent lyrics, song 'rape me', mock the crucifixion, singer committed suicide, hardly a role model for fans everywhere, and led to fans committing suicide to emulate him.

Nine Inch Nails: rebellious lyrics, nihilism, sex, sick lyrics 'f*ck you like an animal/closer to God.'

Petra: falsely so-called "Christian" Rock band, cross-dressers, purported to be homosexuals.

P.O.D.: (Payable On Death) is another falsely so-called "Christian" Rock band. They blaspheme Jesus Christ with their "Rasta Jesus."

Possessed: general Satanism and witchcraft

Psychic TV: music arm of Crowley-linked sect Thee Temple of Psychick Youth, objectionable album art (Live at Thee Circus)

Queen: backward-masking, drug abuse, homosexuality, cross-dressing; perverted lead singer, Freddie Mercury, died of aids at age 46 (he was purported to have lovers all around the world).

Red Hot Chili Peppers: use occult symbols on album art, rebellion, inspired violence and arson at Glastonbury '99

Rod Stewart: bi-sexual, promotes immoral sex

Rolling Stones: recorded song "Sympathy for the Devil" on Their Satanic Majesty's Request, objectionable album art (Goats Head Soup, Undercover, Tattoo You), bankrolled sect called The Process, made Satanic movie Invocation of My Demon Brother. Mick Jagger curses in God's name in the song 'Beast of Burden,' and in other songs.

Sex Pistols: rebellion, self-mutilation, rotten designed t-shirts with upside-down crucifixion

Sepultura: promotes Satanic ideologies

Silverchair: song 'israel’s son’ made 18 year old goth Brian Bassett murder his parents

Siouxsie and the Banshees: recorded song "Sin in My Heart"

Sister: pentagrams

Sisters of Mercy: Satanic imagery

Slayer: used pentagram on album art, lyrics glorifying the Devil (Reign in Blood)

Slipnot: use Satanic imagery on album art, violence in lyrics

Smiths: Satanic imagery

Sonic Youth: obsessed with death ("Death Valley '69")

Spooky Tooth: album cover depicts Jesus with hand nailed to head (Ceremony)

Styx: promotes fornication, shacking up, rebellion

Suicidal Tendencies: pentagrams

Suicide: promote suicide

Therion: promote satanic ideologies

Tori Amos: 'father Lucifer' Satanic lyrics, claimed she wanted to marry Satan in interview

Throbbing Grissle: promote Satanic ideologies

Twisted Sister: rebellion, wear women’s make-up, violent album art (Stay Hungry)

Van Halen: cross-dressers, bi-sexual, promote every sin imaginable, including Satan worship in "Running With The Devil," promote immorality, rebellion, extremely offensive and harsh sound, produces a spirit of hatred and anger

Venom: album title Welcome to Hell, pentagram and goat imagery

White Zombie: Anti-Christian imagery, Singer looks like a Zombie (Not a good role model for impressionable children)

Wednesday 13: Too many to mention — This freak is as dangerous as Manson

And of course all black metal bands, as all promote Nazi, pagan and anti-Christian ideologies.

And hundreds more...

Ken Ham #fundie answersingenesis.org

Dawkins’ Mind Is Closed

In an article titled “Atheist Richard Dawkins Calls It ‘Disgraceful’ That Presidential Hopefuls Are Creationists—and Reveals Which Religion Has ‘Maximum Toxicity,’” The Blaze website reports on a Fox News TV interview with prominent evolutionist Richard Dawkins.

The Blaze article stated:

Atheist biologist Richard Dawkins decried the fact that some Republican presidential candidates are creationists, calling it “disgraceful” and proclaiming that evolution is a “fact” that “you can not seriously disbelieve” . . . Dawkins repeatedly waded into controversial territory throughout the exchange, with Colmes at one point asking if the biologist believes that religious people are “mentally ill.” “It’s hard to use the word ‘mentally ill’ when there are so many of them,” Dawkins responded. “If they believed what they did and they were the only one they would undoubtedly be called mentally ill.”

During the interview, Dawkins was asked “whether the atheist leader would ever change his mind about God, he said that he’s open to the idea. ‘Just show me some evidence and I’ll change,’ Dawkins said.”

Well, Dawkins has been shown overwhelming evidence by many people through books, discussions, a radio debate with my friend Dr. Andy McIntosh, and so on! In fact, God tells us that people like Richard Dawkins are without excuse (Romans 1:20). Dawkins reminds me of the Pharisees in John 9. After Jesus had healed the man blind from birth, the Pharisees questioned the man and his parents, and even with the evidence glaring at them, they refused to believe. People like Dawkins also remind me of the chief priests in John 12:10 who wanted to kill Lazarus, the man Jesus raised from the dead. Because of their hardened hearts, they refused to believe Jesus raised Lazarus and decided to try to kill Lazarus to get rid of the evidence! Yes, these are apt comparisons when you consider people like Richard Dawkins. We need to pray for him. His heart is hard and he is blind.

. . . whose minds the god of this age has blinded, who do not believe, lest the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine on them. (2 Corinthians 4:4)

So is Dawkins truly “open” to believing in God? Well, he pretends that he is willing to listen to evidence—but the evidence from his own life clearly shows that he refuses to believe despite the evidence. He is like the scoffers in 2 Peter 3:5 who deliberately reject, or are willingly ignorant of Creation, the Flood, and the coming judgment (the very things Dawkins rejects). It is a deliberate act on their part to ignore the obvious and reject the truth!

I’m reminded of what Abraham said about the rich man who wanted to come back from the dead and warn his brothers about judgment after life:

“Abraham said to him, ‘They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.’ And he said, ‘No, father Abraham; but if one goes to them from the dead, they will repent.’ But he said to him, ‘If they do not hear Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded though one rise from the dead.’” (Luke 16:29–31)

Dawkins has spent most of his life rejecting the writings of Moses, particularly Genesis, and trying to get as many people as he can to follow his rebellious lifestyle that leads directly to hell. Yes, we do need to pray much for him.

Lord, open Richard Dawkins’ mind, and let the light of the glorious gospel of Jesus Christ illuminate his hardened heart!

Thanks for stopping by and thanks for praying,
Ken

Gone Too Far #fundie rightwingwatch.org


Imagine an anti-LGBTQ gathering that included remarks by a trio of aggressively anti-gay activists—Scott Lively, Peter LaBarbera, and Brian Camenker—and now imagine that none of them was the most ridiculous, obnoxious or extreme speaker. Such was the scene at the National Press Club on Tuesday afternoon, where a new group calling itself “Gone Too Far” introduced itself with tirades against the LGBTQ equality movement, the proposed federal Equality Act, and members of the Congressional Black Caucus who support it.

Three right-wing African American pastors—Randy Short, Stephen Broden and E.W. Jackson—are part of the group’s organizing committee, as are Lively, LaBarbera, and Camenker. (Notably, the latter three were all part of a group of Religious Right leaders who defended Rep. Steve King when he was punished by his House colleagues for his most recent racist comments.) Additional organizing committee members include Arthur Shaper, head of the California branch of Camenker’s MassResistance; Paul Blair, president of Reclaiming America for Christ; and his Oklahoma clergy colleague, Dan Fisher. Blair is also a promoter of “nullification”–the notion that the individual states hold the power to nullify federal laws.

The press conference began with the blowing of a shofar, prayer, the singing of “Jesus Loves the Little Children” and “God Bless America,” and the reciting of the Pledge of Allegiance. When Short took to the podium, things went downhill quickly.

“Today is a day that we declare war on those who are ungodly, unbiblical and wicked,” said Short, who is from the D.C. area and who is listed as “coordinator” of Gone Too Far on a press release. “We are sick and tired of all the deviants, all the eugenicists, all the homophiles coming out of the closet to destroy this country.” Short was particularly outraged that members of the Congressional Black Caucus, with the exception of Rep. Marcia Fudge, D-Ohio, have endorsed the Equality Act, which Short called “the pedophile bill.”

“We have a group that nobody wants that has decided like a parasite to hook itself to the history and legacy of the African American people,” he said.

Short, whose Facebook page denounces “CBC QOONS,” called members of the Black Caucus “a group of infamous fakers, haters, takers, liars, excuse-makers” who “have auctioned the future of our black babies for the sodomite agenda and for the pedophile or the minor-attracted person agenda.”

“I want to say to you,” said Short, “that the Congressional Black Caucus is the equivalent of a terminal venereal disease on the body of black people in this country, and they cannot take a stand against our people being wiped out.”

Short went after iconic CBC members by name. He declared Maxine Waters to be a “fraud,” adding there is “nothing black about her—her wig is from Korea.” Of civil rights hero John Lewis, he asked, “What closet are you in, boy? They didn’t beat you enough in the 60s for you to turn on God, turn on your people, turn on morality, turn on the black woman, turn on the black unborn, turn on the black children.” Short called on them all to resign.

Saying, “We don’t need a Hitler; we’ve got LGBTQ,” Short suggested that the equality movement is a conspiracy to spread diseases to the black community and “wipe out an unwanted population of people through immorality.”

Those people who should know better, who call themselves minority leaders—who know that bowel movement and the blood shed at Edmund Pettus Bridge don’t come together. We’ve got another epidemic brought to us that’s covered up—shingles. Folks sick because folks eat bowel movement in the sexual acts they have, and now they’re injecting children, giving them these diseases, calling it vaccines, because Big Pharma makes so much money off of the new odd diseases that come out of the conduct of these folks.

Short had an odd question for the audience: “Can anyone prove that all the slaveholders were heterosexual?” And he had an answer:

You can’t scientifically prove that. So didn’t some of these gays, even though they didn’t procreate way back then, didn’t they own our people? Who was raping the boys on the plantations? What is ‘breaking the buck?’ Why don’t we know that on the plantations, black men were raped by gay white men to break them down, and now we’re unified with them, and gay is the new black? Have you lost your mind?

One of the few people Short had any kind words for was Anita Bryant, who he said was right for her anti-gay-rights crusade in the 1970s. “God bless Anita Bryant,” he said.

A cursory online search turns up other examples of Short’s unusual worldview, including a 2014 statement attributed to him that asserted, “I will always love Ayatollah Khomeini.”

Next up was Broden of Dallas, Texas, who said during his failed 2010 congressional campaign that the violent overthrow of the government should be an option “on the table” for dealing with government tyranny.

Like Short, Broden made much of language in the Equality Act, saying that the purpose of the bill is “to prohibit discrimination on the basis of sex, gender identity, sexual orientation—and for other purposes.” Broden implied that “other purposes” opens the door to the potential protection of pedophilia and bestiality by civil rights laws.

Broden said the “sinister” Equality Act would encroach on religious liberty and free speech, and would essentially transfer protections of the civil rights struggle to “wealthy white men.” Said Broden. “It is the gateway to a moral depravity that will ultimately destroy this nation.”

Following Broden to the microphone was Dan Fisher, who promoted Gone Too Far’s “Proclamation for Morality.” The proclamation spends a lot of time talking about sexually transmitted diseases, anal sex, pedophilia and, of course, the horrors of Drag Queen Story Hours.

“All truth is God’s truth,” Fisher said. “And his truth applies to all people at all times and in all places. There is not one truth for men and another for women, one for blacks and another for whites, one for heterosexuals, and another for those identifying as LGBTQ.” God alone, he said, has the authority to define and regulate sexuality and marriage.

“If Congress attempts to label as a civil right that which has been understood by generations as immoral, it would not only be reversing centuries of western Judeo-Christian thought, but would be in essence, as Pastor Broden said, actually rendering historic, orthodox Christianity illegal,” Fisher said.

Next up was Stephen Black, who runs a ministry for “sexually and relationally broken people.” Black said God saved him from his gay-identified “years in darkness” and he denounced efforts by LGBTQ activists to ban conversion therapy for minors. He said the term “gay Christian” is “heresy.”

Scott Lively, the notorious globe-trotting anti-LGBTQ activist and author of “The Pink Swastika,” followed Black at the mic. (Lively ran unsuccessfully last year for the Republican nomination for governor of Massachusetts.) At the Gone Too Far event, he took special aim at the Equality Act, anti-discrimination legislation that was introduced in the 115th Congress. The Equality Act, Lively said, is not really about equality but about “LGBT supremacy.”

Lively denounced former Supreme Court Justice Anthony Kennedy, author of landmark gay-rights rulings, as “the worst enemy of the family in the history of the Supreme Court.” Lively charged that the Equality Act was meant to accomplish what he said was the LGBT movement’s goal of abolishing laws governing the age of sexual consent, as well as the legalization of prostitution and polygamy. He also said that that the transgender movement is really about promoting the “pedophilia agenda.”

After Lively came Peter LaBarbera, famed for his fondness for chronicling leather/fetish events in lurid detail as head of Americans for Truth About Homosexuality. Lively became part of Camenker’s growing MassResistance organization last year, and at this week’s press conference, he promoted the group’s tome on “the health hazards of homosexuality.”

LaBarbera said the LGBTQ movement is an anti-God, anti-normal, anti-truth, anti-moral, anti-freedom “revolution” being led by people who are “desperate to rationalize their sin.” He said gay rights activists are “accelerating their war on the church because the church, the Christian church mainly, is the last bastion of opposition to this revolution.”

Camenker wasn’t at the speaker’s table but was given a minute at the end of the press conference to say how “thrilled” he is to be part of the Gone Too Far effort. At an anti-gay gathering in 2015, Camenker said that God has “very brutal” rules for dealing with people who want to tear down the moral structure of society: they “must be destroyed.”

During a Q&A period, Broden said the Equality Act is part of a “dark, evil sinister plot to destroy America.” Tapping another right-wing conspiracy theory, Broden said the Act’s origins go back to the development of “Cultural Marxism” in Germany in the 1920s. Lively also spoke about Cultural Marxism, which he said was another name for secular humanism, which he said was a religion that elite establishment Republicans and Democrats share.

Asked by a conservative activists about Trump, who waved a rainbow flag on the campaign trail, Lively defended the president, saying he cuts Trump some slack for not doing more because he “still does not have control of the government” due to deep state activists who have their claws and tentacles dug into the Defense and State departments. “Donald Trump is God’s man in the White House,” Lively declared.

Gone Too Far is promoting “God’s Voice,” a conference being held in Oklahoma City on February 22 and 23 that is described as “a biblical response to the queering of the church.” LaBarbera and Black are among the scheduled speakers, along with radio host Janet Mefferd.

Excerpts from Randy Short’s comments at the Gone Too Far press conferenc

adam #fundie answers.yahoo.com

Why are most atheists so primitive & dumbed down?
Is it because satanic, anti-God Illuminati propaganda is usually really, really stupid? Hitler said that the most effective propaganda must appeal to the lowest minds of whom it seeks to influence.

All the vile, violent, mindless, corrupt, crude, disgusting, foolish, stupid, demoralizing, anti-intelligence propaganda in the mainstream media is usually full of satanic symbolism, Cultural Marxism political correctness, secularist ideologies, pagan new age egoism nonsense, and especially anti-God, anti-Christian, anti-philosophical principles of logic, anti-family, anti-morality messages.

So the poor atheists really have no smart idols to worship in God's place, only really stupid ones like youth-dehumanization movies/songs/shows.

The only people they have are: 1.Bill Maher, who blatantly lies about Protestantism being the same as Catholicism in the middle ages, and spews the zeitgeist myths while doing the same Masonic hand signs as any other satanic Illuminati media jester. 2.Sam Harris, who makes things up based on opinion, and generalizes religions while lying about them having anything to do with war. 3.Hitchens, who died a miserable failure of debate against William Lane Craig. 4.The Amazing Atheist, who's just a fat, retarded buffoon who obviously got picked up by Illuminati & paid to use stupidity to sway the minds of his mildly-retarded, miserable God-hating, good-hating fans. 5.Aron Ra, who admits that he's a satanic liar who would brainwash his fellow man against God til' death even if he didn't pretend to be an atheist.

The poor psychopaths can't even trust their idols, because they understand by personal experience that their fellow atheists are just as amorally deceptive as they are.

got question #fundie gotquestions.org

Question: "Why did God condone such terrible violence in the Old Testament?"

Answer: The fact that God commanded the killing of entire nations in the Old Testament has been the subject of harsh criticism from opponents of Christianity for some time. That there was violence in the Old Testament is indisputable. The question is whether Old Testament violence is justifiable and condoned by God. In his bestselling book The God Delusion, atheist Richard Dawkins refers to the God of the Old Testament as “a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser.” Journalist Christopher Hitchens complains that the Old Testament contains a warrant for “indiscriminate massacre.” Other critics of Christianity have leveled similar charges, accusing Yahweh of “crimes against humanity.”

But are these criticisms valid? Is the God of the Old Testament a “moral monster” who arbitrarily commands genocide against innocent men, women, and children? Was His reaction to the sins of the Canaanites and the Amalekites a vicious form of “ethnic cleansing” no different from atrocities committed by the Nazis? Or is it possible that God could have had morally sufficient reasons for ordering the destruction of these nations?

A basic knowledge of Canaanite culture reveals its inherent moral wickedness. The Canaanites were a brutal, aggressive people who engaged in bestiality, incest, and even child sacrifice. Deviant sexual acts were the norm. The Canaanites’ sin was so repellent that God said, “The land vomited out its inhabitants” (Leviticus 18:25). Even so, the destruction was directed more at the Canaanite religion (Deuteronomy 7:3–5,12:2-3) than at the Canaanite people per se. The judgment was not ethnically motivated. Individual Canaanites, like Rahab in Jericho, could still find that mercy follows repentance (Joshua 2). God's desire is that the wicked turn from their sin rather than die (Ezekiel 18:31-32, 33:11).

Besides dealing with national sins, God used the conquest of Canaan to create a religious/historical context in which He could eventually introduce the Messiah to the world. This Messiah would bring salvation not only to Israel, but also to Israel’s enemies, including Canaan (Psalm 87:4-6; Mark 7:25–30).

It must be remembered that God gave the Canaanite people more than sufficient time to repent of their evil ways—over 400 years (Genesis 15:13–16)! The book of Hebrews tells us that the Canaanites were “disobedient,” which implies moral culpability on their part (Hebrews 11:31). The Canaanites were aware of God's power (Joshua 2:10–11; 9:9) and could have sought repentance. Except in rare instances, they continued their rebellion against God until the bitter end.

But didn’t God also command the Israelites to kill non-combatants? The biblical record is clear that He did. Here again, we must remember that, while it is true the Canaanite women did not fight, this in no way means they were innocent, as their seductive behavior in Numbers 25 indicates (Numbers 25:1–3). However, the question still remains: what about the children? This is not an easy question to answer, but we must keep several things in mind. First, no human person (including infants) is truly innocent. The Scripture teaches that we are all born in sin (Psalm 51:5; 58:3). This implies that all people are morally culpable for Adam’s sin in some way. Infants are just as condemned from sin as adults are.

Second, God is sovereign over all of life and can take it whenever He sees fit. God and God alone can give life, and God alone has the right to take it whenever He so chooses. In fact, He ultimately takes every person's life at death. It is not our life to begin with but God’s. While it is wrong for us to take a life, except in instances of capital punishment, war, and self-defense, this does not mean that it is wrong for God to do so. We intuitively recognize this when we accuse some person or authority who takes human life as "playing God." God is under no obligation to extend anyone's life for even another day. How and when we die is completely up to Him.

Third, an argument could be made that it would have been cruel for God to take the lives of all the Canaanites except the infants and children. Without the protection and support of their parents, the infants and small children were likely to face death anyway due to starvation. The chances of survival for an orphan in the ancient Near East were not good.

Finally, and most importantly, God may have provided for the salvation for those infants who would not have otherwise attained salvation if they had lived into adulthood. We must remember that the Canaanites were a barbarous and evil culture. If those infants and children had lived into adulthood, it is very likely they would have turned into something similar to their parents and been condemned to hell after they died. If all infants and young children who die before an age of moral accountability go straight to heaven (as we believe), then those children are in a far better place than if God had allowed them to live and grow to maturity in a depraved culture.

Surely, the issue of God commanding violence in the Old Testament is difficult. However, we must remember that God sees things from an eternal perspective, and His ways are not our ways (Isaiah 55:8–9). The apostle Paul tells us that God is both kind and severe (Romans 11:22). While it is true that God's holy character demands that sin be punished, His grace and mercy remain extended to those who are willing to repent and be saved. The Canaanite destruction provides us with a sober reminder that, while our God is gracious and merciful, He is also a God of holiness and wrath.

Conservapedia #fundie conservapedia.com

The atheist and liberal evolutionary biologist Richard Dawkins is quoted as saying: "The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control freak ... homophobic, racist, ... capriciously malevolent bully."[2] As far as Conservapedians are aware, the liberal biologist Richard Dawkins has yet to comment on all the diseases associated with homosexuality nor has he commented on the rather portly figures of many in the lesbian community! Perhaps, that is because there are so many diseases associated with homosexuality! Message to Richard Dawkins and his fans: God is good! Richard, perhaps you need to hear it again: God is good! Richard, do you think one of the many reasons why God forbids homosexuality is because an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure!

jackaroni #fundie answers.yahoo.com

Because science is a false religion. It is a disguise used by anti-God conspirators to indoctrinate people into abandoning truth and serving a false idol. They wrap their faith in words that make it seem "neutral" but it is not at all neutral. It is anti-God, anti-truth, anti-human.

Those who accept their teaching and bow down to it can have their indoctrination recognized and move up the heirarchy.

Other "Scientists" that is those that bow before the false god "scient" will award their proteges with diplomas and jobs. That is why the medical profession is rife with professional killers. They call for more and more killing all the time to serve "scient" his blood meals.

Abortion, Euthanasia, Infanticide, depopulation are the fruits of the scient worshippers. Each of those requires the death of people.

astein #fundie christianforums.com

So if the "Greeks" hadn't labeled belief as "theism", then the "anti-God" group wouldn't have a label? They would be called "anti-God", "against God", "Doubters of truth"?

So "theism" is a term "accepted by believers in God? How come those so called "believers" cut me off? I resemble no connection with man made words such as "theism" and "atheism" accussed of the Greek. Who accepts such garbage and demands others accept it?

Ken Ham #fundie answersingenesis.org

“World’s Largest Atheist Party” Is Really a Worship Service!

The Reason Rally 2016, advertised as the “world’s largest atheist party,” is really a kind of worship service. Why do I say this? Well, they worship man. Their rally in Washington, DC, in June will see people worshipping the god of self. They will exalt reason and declare that they have a blind faith that the universe and life arose by natural processes.

You know, we need to be calling atheism for what it really is—a religion, an anti-God religion—a religion that exalts fallible human reason.

In fact, atheist Lawrence Krauss, who is speaking at this rally, once said on video, “Forget Jesus—the stars died so you can be here.” You see, he is worshipping the stars. These atheists at the rally are no different from those the prophet Jeremiah spoke of: “Saying to a tree, ‘You are my father,’ And to a stone, ‘You gave birth to me’” (Jeremiah 2:27).

And what will the message of the rally be? “Become an atheist, die, and that’s the end—there’s no ultimate purpose to life.” So that being the case, why do atheists even attack Christianity? Why rally in DC in June? Well, it is because they actively “suppress the truth in unrighteousness” (Romans 1:18).

Atheists work hard against Christianity because they’re putting their hands over their eyes and ears and shouting, “I refuse to see and hear truth!” Their blind faith religion of believing that natural processes explain life without God is an anti-God religion.

The words of Daniel (5:23) describe today’s atheists: “The God who holds your breath in His hand and owns all your ways, you have not glorified.”

So, the atheists will worship man at the Reason Rally, just as stated in Scripture: “who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen” (Romans 1:25). But God says, “You have lifted yourself up against the Lord of heaven” (Daniel 5:23).

Thanks for stopping by and thanks for praying,
Ken

Ken Ham #fundie answersingenesis.org

Secularists Get Overly Emotional Over Their Religion!

Yesterday I tweeted this:

New Cosmos TV series shown in public schools uses tax dollars to basically tell students to worship the stars, imposing atheism on students

And it’s true. Neil deGrasse Tyson does basically tell students to worship the sun/the stars. For instance he says in episode 8:

Our ancestors worshipped the sun. They were far from foolish. It makes good sense to revere the sun and stars because we are their children. The silicon in the rocks, the oxygen in the air, the carbon in our DNA, the iron in our skyscrapers, the silver in our jewelry—were all made in stars, billions of years ago. Our planet, our society, and we ourselves are stardust.

Well, as a result of my tweet, secular bloggers and others went rather ballistic—for instance, these sorts of headlines appeared: “Ken Ham is a Liar,” “Creationist Ken Ham Fears New Cosmos Series Will Create Pandemic of Reason and Critical Thinking,” “Ken Ham Disparages Schools Showing Cosmos in Class for ‘Imposing Atheism on Students.’”

Secularists for too long have been allowed to impose their anti-God religion of evolution/millions of years on generations of kids—and we are seeing the consequences in an increasingly secularized culture and large numbers of young people drifting from the church.

I followed up my tweet about the Cosmos series with:

We need to call out programs like Cosmos for what they really are- indoctrinating people in an anti-God religion to underminine Christianity

Secularists don’t like being exposed for who they really are and what they’re really doing - imposing an anti-God religion on the culture

Yooper4Life #fundie freerepublic.com

New York approved gay marriage in June 2011.
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Wrong. In support of an immoral, disease ridden, anti-family, anti-American, and anti-God agenda designed to bring America to its knees, a tyrannical New York legislature FORCED queer faux “marriage” on the citizens of New York in June 2011.
The psychotic 1% and their overlords are now gaily enjoying the debauchery.

Bluegrass Girl #fundie teens-4-christ.org

[On the case of a male to female transsexual being ejected from a womans' bathroom and someone saying "IMO We shouldn't take on a holier than thou appearance"]

So, first of all you're saying we should look like the world. Don't try to say you're not, because it couldn't be clearer. Blend in and don't try to look like a "Christian" because it may make others uncomfortable and we certainly don't want the world thinking that what we have (JESUS) is any better than what they have.
Also, you are defending the "person" who was in the restroom. I didn't see her, but I do know enough about our perverted society to know that there are a lot of confused sick people walking around wishing they were of the opposite sex. I have seen them with my own eyes and I have heard about the disgusting lifestyle they lead. Maybe this person wasn't one of them, but the point is, the business has the authority to do what they want. They obviously have "Standards" in what they allow in their establishment. This reminds me of the woman from Hooters who was recently told she couldn't fly on American Airlines because of the sleezy way she was dressed. They stated it was a family airline and they wouldn't allow her clothed the way she was. They also have a "standard". I am tired of society never wanting to offend someone, yet I am offended everytime I go to the mall by the anti-God t-shirts and music. Maybe the anti-God crowd needs to start dressing like Christians so I won't be offended.

Jesus_Freak #fundie rr-bb.com

You know that now, that slimy serpent Richard Dawkins and his ilk are parading anti-God messages on buses for the holidays, right? You show me a sign like that, and I'll show you a bunch of people whose foreheads will be stamped with the mark of the Beast....

Warrior Monk #fundie christianforums.com

The left-wing Republican Party is now anti-Constitution, anti-Bill of Rights, anti-God, anti-Bible, pro-abortion, pro-homosexual, pro-illegal immigration, and does nothing about the Stalinist genocide and nuclear WalMart in North Korea and nothing about the nuclear terrorist threats from Iran and Pakistan. The Consitution Party [<a href="http://www.constitutionparty.com">website</a>] is now snowballing into the true voice of Conservatism untainted by the drug addicts and antisemites of the Libertarian Party.

Hostage #fundie freerepublic.com

[> “If I plate a bacteria out, blot it on ten different plates - then subject it to ten different stresses - I will get a heat resistant strain through evolution, a cold resistant strain through evolution, an antibiotic resistant strain, etc, etc.”]

Yes but you still have bacteria. You don’t have an amoeba and yet left-wing anti-God evolutionists will project frogs and fish from such experiments.

What you are describing is natural selection, a generational form of adaptation.

If I work out passionately with heavy weights I can metamorphose to something in a category more akin to a Mr. Universe.

If I equip a room with heavy weight lifting equipment and teach weight lifting then I am a progenitor of buff persons, a form of natural selection because they came to me of their own will influenced by external causes such as primitive urges to mate with stronger partners (from the physical perspective). But still they are humans.

The evolutionists that stretch natural selection, survival of the fittest and metamorphosis into a theory of ape to man have twisted scientific results to fit their atheistic or satanic beliefs. They are simply against God and want nothing more than to use science to further their anti-God agenda.

“CE”, “BCE”, Remove “Under God” from the Pledge, etc. and “Evolution” are all part of the same schtick of persons who think they are somehow superior and who find Christians to be an easy target to treat with their particular form of torment.

Evolution is not, has never been and will never be proven. The maximum likelihood statistical estimates used to posit evolutionary trees based on any number of observances such as genetic variation or single nucleotide polymorphisms DO NOT ADD UP to any form of proof that God never existed, that Adam was a fable, the flood never occurred or that Christ never conquered death. In fact one could say or think that Christ’s resurrection is a metamorphosis of earthly spiritual death back to spiritual immortality. And if you think things of the ‘spirit’ do not exist, you are blind. Within humanity it is all around you. Spirit and soul are just as tangible as flesh and blood, and are manifested in Good and Evil.

So yes we can go into the lab and perform genetic crossovers or gene knockout/insertion experiments and watch yeast or whatever model transform itself into more adaptable organisms of the same type. We have proved nothing in regards to God except that by concluding from such experiments that God does not exist we merely prove ourselves to be spiritual retards.

‘Spirit’ exists and is just as verifiable as your bacteria. Try doing a little ‘Science’ on the many species of ‘Spirit’ and you will end up in politics. Hopefully you will find the Bible to be your code map. Good luck or should I say God be with you and ‘select’ you to His will, blessing you with real worth rather than leaving you to continue with your effing little pissant rant against Christianity using ‘Evolution’ as your creed.

David J. Stewart #fundie jesus-is-savior.com

Humanity has always tried to justify evil—whether it be adultery, idolatry, robbery, abortion, lying, greed, drunkenness, war, et cetera. In Proverb 30:20 the Bible speaks about an adulterous women who says, “I HAVE DONE NO WICKEDNESS.” She is a sinner in self-denial. She has done wickedness!

What does the Bible mean by “she wipeth her mouth?” I believe it is a reference to the Garden of Eden when Eve ate the forbidden fruit. The adulterous woman eats the forbidden fruit of adultery, and then wipes her mouth in sinful pride and arrogance, saying, “I HAVE DONE NO WICKEDNESS.”

Americans have likewise eaten the forbidden fruit of every sin imaginable—pride, idolatry, feminism, fornication, abortion, murder, homosexuality, same-sex marriage, divorce, drunkenness, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera!!! As a nation we have wiped our mouth and said, “I HAVE DONE NO WICKEDNESS.” Ah, but we have committed wickedness, time and time again with no shame! It is only sinful pride that causes a person to deny their sins.

Tens-of-millions of Americans have embraced the wickedness of SIN CITY Las Vegas. We ought to be ashamed as a nation of Las Vegas, just as if our home had garbage piled in the front yard. Las Vegas is the garbage in our nation's front yard. Hollywood is a backed-up sewer, flooding our nation with stinking sewage. Walt Disney in Orlando, Florida is piled garbage in the back of our nation, sprawled out in the alley, trash infested with rats and maggots! To the same extent that Americans embrace wickedness, to that same extent God is giving us over to a Police State dictatorship. God will not bless a sinful people.

America Has Done Evil in the Sight of the Lord

We read in Judges 6:1 that Israel “did evil in the sight of the Lord.” Consequently, God gave them over in judgment to their enemies, the Midianites...

Judges 6:13, “And Gideon said unto him, Oh my Lord, if the LORD be with us, why then is all this befallen us? and where be all his miracles which our fathers told us of, saying, Did not the LORD bring us up from Egypt? but now the LORD hath forsaken us, and delivered us into the hands of the Midianites.”

Notice that Gideon didn't understand why Israel was being judged and given over to tyranny. This is happening in America today. We have done evil in the sight of the Lord, and God is giving America over to a group of thug gangsters who've taken control of the White House, the Pentagon, et cetera. They operate through the CIA, FEMA, Homeland Security, and other government agencies into which they have appointed their own people. Through affluence, blackmail and fear-mongering they control the newsmedia, congress, and the Supreme Court. They own and operate the privately owned Federal Reserve Banks. It is an extensive system of criminal tyranny, treason and Godless wickedness. They disguise their tyranny with patriotism and an American flag. The mainstream newsmedia in America are anti-God, anti-family, anti-Christianity, anti-national sovereignty; but they are masters of deceit, paid professional liars, and manipulators of public opinion.

Most of America's churches are apostate, supporting wicked criminal leaders instead of exposing them. The largest churches are the most apostate, being pastored by affluent and wealthy men, the rich rubbing shoulders with the rich. They all look the other way and no one seems to care. Rich people support rich people, because they don't want to lose their fame, fortune and good times. They've been bought off. It's time to say no to Hitler!

The United States is so saturated with demonic influences and wickedness that we've legalized the killing of 51,000,000 precious children in the womb since 1973. Statistically, a mother's womb is the most dangerous place in the world to be. How tragic! A mother's womb ought to be the safest place in the world for a child, which are a reward from God. Psalm 127:3, “Lo, children are an heritage of the LORD: and the fruit of the womb is his reward.” God entrusts parents with a human life to “bring them up in the nurture and admonition of the Lord” (Ephesians 6:4). Children are a reward from God, a privilege to raise a child. Abortion... a choice? Do the children have a choice?

God will not bless a nation that legalizes homosexual marriages and then wipes their mouth, saying “I HAVE DONE NO WICKEDNESS.” In 2011 New York state legalized same-sex marriage. Since they don't require proof of residence, gays nationwide can now become legally married in New York. How romantic! Barf! God created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve. No one is born homosexual because God doesn't make mistakes. If two men get married, the very fact that they cannot reproduce is nature's evidence that homosexuality is strange, abnormal and unnatural in every way. Homosexuals can wipe their mouths all they want in defense of their sins, but the Bible says that Judgment Day is coming (Romans 1:32; Hebrews 9:27).

This world is a wicked place (1st John 5:19). I read in the news recently about British Prime Minister, Tony Blaire, who's been having Catholic priest parties for transvestite nuns. Blaire recently converted over to the demonic Roman Catholic religion. How about pole-dancing for Jesus in Texas? In this wicked culture, anything goes in Jesus name! The only true, reliable and safe place to form our opinions, receive guidance, and make our decisions is from the teachings of the inspired Word of God, i.e., the precious King James Bible. We are living in a woefully sinful society that wipes its mouth saying, “I HAVE DONE NO WICKEDNESS.” But Americans are in wicked self-denial. Abortion is murder! Homosexuality is a sin! Same-sex marriage is of the Devil. Fornication is a sin! Feminist rebellion is a sin! Divorce is a sin! Pornography is evil! Drunkenness is a sin! Casino gambling is evil! Public nudity is evil! Witchcraft is a sin! Idolatry is a sin! All of the things I am mentioning are LEGAL in the United States.

Every child deserves to have a father and a mother. The entire concept of two lesbians trying to raise a child without a father in the home is INSANITY!!! Are you listening Rosie O'Donnell? Rosie O'Donnell is a disgrace to America, and has attacked Bible-believing Christians, categorizing them with terrorists. How can anyone in their right mind claim that it's the American way to murder children by abortion, allow lesbians to raise children, and utilize fertility clinics to allow homosexuals to have lab babies? Americans have gone insane!

geverest #fundie christiandiscussionforums.org

Here is my postulation; the NEA is unashamedly, blatantly and purposefully anti-God, anti-family, anti-children, anti-marriage, pro-death and pro-gay. Unfortunately, the NEA represents the majority of the nation’s public school teachers and is by far the United States’ largest and in my considered opinion, the most dangerously influential labor union in existence today.

Here is a recent example, just a short while ago the NEA awarded its Creative Leadership in Human Rights to Kevin Jennings, co-founder and director of GLSEN (Gay Lesbian Straight Education Network). GLSEN is one of the most radical gay rights organizations in existence today and seeks to directly and overtly indoctrinate your children into the homosexual abomination through the public schools. In its document titled, Ten Things Educators Can Do, GLSEN makes the following recommendation, “Educators need to integrate LGBT (Lesbian-Gay-Bisexual-Transgender) issues throughout the [public school] curriculum...” Do you think that GLSEN sounds like a group the NEA needs to endorse, and by proxy we as parents willingly endorse. I know, I can hear you question, how do I willing endorse GLSEN? You do so by sending your children into the public schools; because of your refusal to homeschool them. You don’t think so, if your kids are in public school, you sent them there willingly, didn’t you? Nobody forced you to, did they? At least not yet, praise the Lord!

Prof.Stuart Burgess #fundie answersingenesis.org

When a false god is called upon to solve gaps in knowledge, this is sometimes referred to as “god of the gaps.” For example, if someone did not know that ice is formed when water freezes and proposed that there was an “ice god” that occasionally causes ice to spontaneously appear, then they would be guilty of using a god-of-the-gaps explanation.
Biblical Creation Is Not a God of the Gaps

Atheists have often accused Christians of invoking God to fill in a gap in scientific knowledge. Even the great scientist Isaac Newton has been accused by atheists of using a god-of-the-gaps explanation when he said that the universe reveals evidence of design.1 But creationists like Newton do not believe in a god of gaps, but a God of absolute necessity. Newton recognized that the universe could not exist without the supernatural creative power of an almighty Creator.

Newton and most of the other founding fathers of science could see that the universe can only be fully explained with a combination of natural and supernatural explanations. Creationists only invoke God in origins when a supernatural action is necessary according to the laws of science. For example, according to the conservation of matter and energy (the first law of thermodynamics), it is impossible for a universe to come into existence without the supernatural intervention of an all-powerful being.

The Bible is scientifically correct when it states that divine supernatural power is required to create the universe (Genesis 1:1) and life (Genesis 2:7) and different kinds of creatures (Genesis 1:24). The Bible is also scientifically accurate that divine supernatural power is required to uphold all things (Colossians 1:17). Rather than being accused of superstition, the Bible should be commended for correctly identifying the areas of origins where a supernatural Creator is necessary.
Biblical Creation Is Not Anti-Science

Creationists are sometimes accused of ignoring scientific evidence and being anti-science. But belief in God in no way diminishes zeal for how life works. The great pioneer scientists of the 17th to 20th centuries were inspired by their belief in God. Likewise, modern-day scientists who are biblical creationists find their belief in a purposeful universe to be a help in their work.

Biblical creationists are always eager to learn from real scientific discoveries in every area of science. I personally have designed rockets and spacecraft for the European Space Agency and NASA using the latest scientific knowledge in physics and engineering. I have a patent on a special gearbox that was used on the world’s largest civilian spacecraft and have been awarded three national prizes for the development of technology for spacecraft.

The only “science” that creationists do not use is the speculative science of evolution that has nothing to do with useful operational science. Evolutionary ideas like “monkey-to-man charts” that supposedly chart human evolution are based on pure speculation and not useful to science and technology in any way.
Evolution Is Guilty of God-of-the-Gaps Explanations

Ironically, it is actually evolution that is blatantly guilty of god-of-the-gaps explanations. When secular biology books attempt to explain why creatures or plants have a certain design, the answer is almost always “evolution did it” or “natural selection did it” without any explanation as to how the design feature could evolve by chance.

This is what Dawkins has written about the origin of life:

We have no evidence about what the first step in making life was, but we do know the kind of step it must have been. It must have been whatever it took to get natural selection started . . . by some process as yet unknown.2

The above quote is a classic example of evolution being a god-of-the-gaps explanation. There is a total gap in what evolution can explain about the origin of life, and Dawkins invokes the god of evolution to fill in the gap and asserts that natural selection “must” have gotten started somehow. But natural selection by itself cannot create anything; it can only select from things already created.

When my daughters did a two-year advanced biology course at high school in the UK, the teachers kept saying that “evolution did this” and “natural selection did that” for the origin of features like fins and wings and hearts and lungs. Near the end of the course, one of my daughters challenged the teacher and said, “Miss, you keep saying ‘evolution did it,’ but you never actually explain how evolution did it.” The teacher had to confess that my daughter made a valid criticism, and the rest of class agreed.

Since evolution has no credible evidence, biology books use examples of adaptation as supposed examples of evolution. Darwin’s finches and resistant bacteria are held up as classic examples of evolution even though they are not evolution at all. These adaptations involve no new information, but simply a shuffling of existing genes.
Evolution Is Guilty of Being Anti-Science

Ironically, it is evolutionists, not creationists, who are guilty of ignoring scientific evidence.3 Over the last 70 years there have been many thousands of experiments with sophisticated equipment trying to create life in the laboratory from dead matter and energy.4 However, all of these experiments have clearly demonstrated that life cannot come about by chance. Evolutionists have a choice. Either they accept the laboratory experiments or ignore them and put faith in the god of evolution. They have chosen to ignore the evidence and exercise blind faith in chance.

Evolutionary philosophy holds back scientific progress by seeking false evolutionary explanations of origins. If you refuse to believe that a jumbo jet was designed, it will affect the way you investigate the complexity of the aircraft. If you believe that the aircraft evolved by chance, you will not have your mind open to possibilities of coordinated design. When the human genome was discovered to have far more information than expected, evolutionists immediately jumped to the conclusion that it was “junk” DNA because evolution predicts bad design not sophisticated design. However, subsequent work showed that the junk DNA was not junk at all, but highly coordinated information with important functions. That example shows how evolution holds back science.

A few years ago I spoke to a senior professor of microbiology at my university (who is an agnostic) and asked what he thought of the theory of abiogenesis—the theory that life can evolve from dead matter. He said the concept was a type of superstitious black magic. The biology professor had no religious bias and had been taught the dogma of evolution for decades, but he could still see that abiogenesis was not real science but so speculative that it could be called black magic.
The Missing Link: Yet Another Gap in Evolution’s Knowledge

When Darwin published his Origin of Species more than 150 years ago, one of the problems with his theory was that there was a missing link between man and apes. That missing link is still missing today despite extensive searches for fossil evidence of evolution all over the world. Fossil evidence shows that humans have always been strikingly different from apes. Humans walk on two legs, whereas apes walk on all four limbs. Humans have an arched foot, whereas apes have a flexible foot like a hand. Fossil evidence shows that no ape-like creature has ever had an arched foot for walking upright. As with every other aspect of evolution, the evolutionist ignores the gaps and encourages everyone to put their faith in the god of evolution.
Evolution Is Like a Magic Wand

I recently talked with another senior professor of microbiology at my university (another agnostic), and he made a surprisingly frank admission about evolution being a “god of the gaps.” He is not a creationist but like many biologists can see the serious weaknesses in the theory of evolution (although he keeps his views discreet for fear of losing his job). This microbiologist told me that evolution can be described as a “magic wand.” He said that he has noticed how even the experts say “evolution did this” and “natural selection did that” without any actual explanation being given and no demonstration in the laboratory. He said that the evolutionist can explain any aspect of origins by simply waving a magic wand and saying “evolution did it.”
Paying Homage to the God of Evolution

Evolution makes no useful contribution to scientific and technological advances. However, there is an unwritten rule in the modern secular biology community that after completing a scientific study (on a topic not linked to evolution), evolution is mentioned in the write-up as being the explanation for the origin of features of design. In the same way that a religious essay is finished by paying homage to a particular god, so in modern secular biology essays are finished by paying homage to evolution. I have personally worked on biology-related projects where this is exactly what has happened. The end result is that the community blindly believes that the god of evolution must be true.
A Battle of Worldviews

Biblical creation versus evolution is not “faith versus science,” but a worldview that includes God versus a worldview that has excluded God. Evolution is not a scientific theory because it has an unjustified assumption that God was not involved in origins. It is wrong for Christians to be accused of having a hidden religious agenda because biblical creation openly declares its worldview. Ironically, it is actually evolution that hides its atheistic agenda by pretending to be just science. If Isaac Newton and the other great scientists were here today, they would be astonished and saddened at the atheistic bias in modern secular science.
Giving Credit to the Creator

In modern society, a scientist is not allowed to say “God did it” for any aspect of creation, whether it is ultimate origins or the origin of any detailed design feature. The phrase “God did it” is seen as anti-scientific. But if God is the author of creation, then He deserves acknowledgement and credit for His work. And if God is the author of creation, then scientific investigation can only be helped by recognizing God as Creator.

If you refused to believe that a jumbo jet had been designed, then that would be dishonoring to the designers. How much more dishonoring it is when secular science and the secular media refuse to acknowledge that creation has a Designer. Thankfully there are many scientists today who are prepared to acknowledge the Creator despite the risk to their jobs and careers. Such scientists can have the satisfaction of knowing they stand shoulder to shoulder with the greatest scientists that ever lived such as Newton, Kepler, Pascal, Faraday, Maxwell, Kelvin, and Flemming. And by the way, the last three great scientists in this list knew of Darwin’s theory and rejected it—a fact that secular science has never publicized.

Moses David / The Family International #racist pubs.xfamily.org

1. I DON'T KNOW WHETHER YOU REALISE THE SITUATION WHICH IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW. As usual, people seldom ever see impending doom or things that can happen until too late. The usual herd, the usual sheep, just go on their way like things have always been.

2. KURT WALDHEIM, THE JEW, PROBABLY ISN'T TOO ANXIOUS TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM since the Jews hate Spain and the Arabs anyhow, and he probably wouldn't mind a bit if Morocco took Sahara. But situations like that are very explosive and nobody knows what might happen.

3. THEY COULD HAVE ERUPTED INTO FULL-SCALE WAR in which I'm sure ? America would sympathise totally against Spain with Morocco. She has already expressed her sympathies and support for Morocco's claim to the Sahara.—Because Morocco is one of the headquarters of the U.S. Mafia and virtually an American colony‚ armed by the U.S.

4. THOSE EVIL MOROCCAN LEADERS have always been evil beasts, thieves‚ murderers, cutthroats, pirates and Mafia. I can't remember one single good thing about them, can you? The word most closely associated in my memory with Moroccans is those "Moroccan pirates." They've always been a bunch of the worst and cruelest kind of people!

5. WE RECENTLY RECEIVED A LETTER FROM ONE OF OUR BOYS WHO WAS IMPRISONED THERE: Joseph of Bradford, England: "Believe me, I've got plenty to kick about! I was imprisoned six months in Morocco and do you know what the charge was? Are you ready for this? Plotting to overthrow the government through the use of ... the MO Letters! How about that? The Moroccans are so God damned anti-Christ and anti-God, the filthiest, morbid‚ degenerate, most disgusting and downright lowlife disease–ridden people I have ever come in contact with! Almost all the Moroccans are homosexuals, perverted‚ etc. I love the Lord and His Word and that means you and the Letters too! I've always been fanatical about the Letters and it's gotten me into trouble a couple of times. ... However, I'd rather die for something than live for nothing!"

Ken Ham #fundie answersingenesis.org

In response to “Charles Darwin Day” in Delaware, Ken Ham, CEO of Answers in Genesis, has declared Darwin Was Wrong Day. Ken responded with the following:

Secularists are becoming increasingly aggressive and intolerant in promoting their anti-God philosophy. Evolutionary ideas provide the foundation for this worldview because they seemingly allow mankind the ability to explain the existence of life and the universe without God. As Christians, we need to be bold in proclaiming the truth of God’s Word to a hurting (groaning, Romans 8:22) world. This year, on February 12, instead of celebrating Darwin’s anti-God religion, we can take this opportunity to show the world that Darwin’s ideas about our supposed evolutionary origins were wrong, and that God’s Word is true, from the very beginning. Let’s make February 12 Darwin Was Wrong Day and point people to the truth of God’s Word.

david #fundie richarddawkins.net

[Hate mail to Richard Dawkins]

If as you say God is a delusion, and God created humanity, then humanity is a delusion. Since you think you are human, you are a delusion and do not exist. Then why do you have a website? Whhy don't you just wink out of existence since you never was real anyway? -david

How do you know you are real and am talking to me? There is no one telling you you exist! How do you know you are even human? Are you an android who thinks you are human? why do you think? If there is no god, then evolution would never have happened and humanity is a great lie.

note: Dawin says "survival of the fittest" and that means "kill or be killed" without care to morality. Therefore you are dehumanising humanity. Of course you don't care, since you are not even human. You just look human and think you are, but you are a lie. Why don't you make friends with Freddy Kreuger and Jason Vorhees, because they think just like you? They kill for fun, why not you?

Bill Gray #fundie theconservativevoice.com

The Blasphemy Challenge is a group of atheists who are militantly seeking to lure children and young people away from God and Christianity. They broadcast an internet radio program from a hidden site in Philadelphia. And, now they have come up with this scheme using the YouTube internet web site to reach millions of young people with their anti-God, anti-Jesus, anti-Holy Spirit message. This atheist group has definitely declared war on God. They are militant, and their targets are your children and grandchildren. Below is an excerpt from their web site: http://www.blasphemychallenge.com [...]

When you visit their web site, and I strongly urge that you to do ---- first click on the face of the young girl to see her video on YouTube. Her name is Jessica --- and she is someone's daughter; she is someone's granddaughter --- and, through the encouragement of this Satanic group, she happily, ignorantly, denies God. [...]

Do you have a young person in your home with internet access to YouTube --- and the 25 popular sites chosen to target your children and grandchildren? If so, be warned that they are sitting there with the Rational Response Squad's gun at their heads! And accompanied by screeching, slobbering demonic spirits, this group of atheists are working hard to pull your child into hell with them.

Have you taken a moment recently to see what web sites your children and grandchildren are visiting? Don't you think you should?

I plead with you as never before --- share this message with ALL of your Friends, Relatives, Associates, and Neighbors --- all your FRANs. Help us warn the world of this new attack against ALL CHILDREN, including yours.

David J. Stewart #fundie jesus-is-savior.com

Creation Science was the prevailing belief system before the rise of geology in the late 18th Century. The early European scientists, from Galileo, to Copernicus, to Newton, all believed in a literal interpretation of the Bible's account of Creation. Historians have made many estimates for the date of creation, including 3761, 3928, 4004, and 4456 BCE. The most generally accepted date was established by Bishop Ussher: 4004-OCT-22 BCE.

With the rise of the scientific intelligencia, and the woeful apostasy of modern times, the ridiculous THEORIES of the origin of the universe have been used by Satan as a Trojan Horse for many other sins.

Karl Marx, Communism, Nazism, Darwinism, and the Public School System

Such Communistic, anti-family, anti-God, anti-country, thinking was nothing new for Chisholm's time. It was Karl Marx in 1848 who called for a public school system in the 10th plank of his Communist Manifesto! The purpose of a public school system was to enable the occult powers that be to brainwash children, to further their diabolical plot...

Karl Marx (1818-1883) was a German of Jewish descent. He was expelled from Germany, and afterwards from France, for his revolutionary activities. He was given asylum in England. In 1948 he published the Communist Manifesto. Marx admitted this long range plan , to turn the world into an International of Soviet Socialist Republics, may take centuries to accomplish.

SOURCE: PAWNS IN THE GAME; chapter one, page 4; by William Guy Carr; 1958.

America is largely Communist today and the average person doesn't even realize it. Wake up America!

An undeniable connection exists between Evolution and Communism. With communism the struggle of "race" is replaced by the struggle of "class" as history is viewed as an evolutionary struggle. Both Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels were Evolutionists before they encountered Darwin's The Origin of Species (Dec 12, 1859).

Dr. D James Kennedy #fundie atheist-stooges.com

NEW!!! GODS HIT LIST!!!!`

* Tristan Shuddery (He turned over to the dark side!)
* Madalyn Murray O’Hair
* Michael Moore
* Aaron Russo (God won - died of cancer!)
* Cindy Sheehan (Has publicly repented from her sins - God won!)
* Richard Dawkins (Faster than a monkeys uncle)
* Al Franken
* Sam Harris
* Boris Yeltsin (God Won)
* Cho Seung-Hui (God Won)
* Saddam Hussein (God Won)
* Kurt Vonnegut (God Won)
* George Soros
* Sheryl GAY Stolberg
* Casper the Godless Pornographer
* Charles Darwin (God Won)
* Hemant Mehta a.k.a. The Friendly Atheist
* Americans United for Separation of Church and State
* Max Keiser
* Marcel Marceau (God Won)
*Kant
*Voltaire(God Won) - His printing press which was to be used to destroy Christianity is now being used to print millions of Bibles!

Navaros #fundie imdb.com

(On the subject of the film "God’s Not Dead")

Before making this post, I revisited this film so that the evil, ungodly things that Josh did are fresh in my mind.

In his first speech, Josh affirms the darwinist-alleged, Bible-denying age of the universe (13.7B years). He also affirms darwinists' big bang theory, whilst adding in front of it the caveat that God did it.

In his third speech, Josh directly affirms that evolution is true and again, adds a God did it caveat in front. He then goes on to make that same affirmation a second time when he validates the darwinist idea that all forms of life transformed into each other over 3.8B years. To that he tacks on another caveat, that within those 3.8B years, evolution happened fast. Next, he inappropriately conflates his ungodly argument with a quotation from Genesis that in reality completely debunks everything that he just said and will continue to say. He finishes with yet another affirmation that the process of evolution is true, and yet again tacks on the caveat but God did it.

In his fourth speech, Josh finally says something compatible with the Bible, by pointing out that evil exists in the world due to God allowing Free Will. However, that fact also completely debunks all the darwin-glorifying, anti-God, anti-Christian, anti-Bible propaganda which he spouted previously. To wit, if evolution is true, then evil is necessarily not a consequence of Free Will, but rather, evil must always have existed in the world, long before any sentient beings who had Free Will did. Moreover, that of course would point to an evil god, who must have put evil into the world without justification, for no reason other than because he too is evil (that would be a satanic god, not the God of the Bible).

Given all that evidence, there is no reasonable way you can possibly legitimately argue that Josh didn't glorify darwin and affirm evolution and thereby deny God, the Bible and Christianity.

Imperial Wizard Frank Ancona #racist traditionalistamericanknights.com

The media will tell you The KKK is dead, gone, irrelevant. They have tried since the birth of the Klan to downplay the influence and power of the KKK. They also will try to portray us as haters, ignorant. They will ignore the facts. Let me tell you they are the haters. They have engaged in a campaign to destroy our Race, culture, and heritage. They are communist, socialists, and haters of freedom. They have been poisioning our race with their propaganda for the last 140 plus years. They would deny us our heritage and birthright. They trample our Constituition and bill of Rights. They want us to be ashamed of our heritage. We cannot allow this. The time has come to awaken from our hypnotic sleep before we and our children wake up to a hell we can never escape from.

Our mission is to preserve our White culture and heritage but also be relevant to the happenings going on in our Republic today. We must defeat these communist socialist anti-God anti-white anti american enemies within our own borders. It is essential that we wake as many of our fellow White citizens up as quickly as possible and recruit them to our cause. We must set the standards and they will follow our lead. We need men of courage and character who will not cut and run when the going gets tough. God give us men!!

Proresumehelp #fundie news.aol.com

[Comment on a video of a man who was fired from his job for telling a manager that homosexuality is wrong]

So many uneducated, anti-Christian, anti-God inflammatory comments here. Take "In God We Trust" off the money? Protect homosexuals but not heterosexuals from free speech? My God, what is our country coming to? This marks the decline of the United States as a coherent, viable, world power. So much liberalism, away with structure! Away with right! Let everyone who has a new (and unhealthy) idea have their way but NOT the way our forefathers instituted our nation.It's all going down the toilet at the hands of those who wish to do whatever they please and celebrate their corruption.And please, lepers of the 21st century - READ THE BIBLE before you quote it!

Gary Dull #fundie rightwingwatch.org

On Monday’s “Stand In The Gap” radio program, Gary Dull of the Pennsylvania Pastors Network speculated that President Trump could be under threat from LGBTQ people, claiming that this would not be surprising because the “philosophy of the ‘LBGT’ group comes right out of the pit of hell.”

Dull’s comments were in response to the allegations made by pastor Rodney Howard-Browne, who led a recent Oval Office prayer session, that there is a secret plan to attack President Trump and remove him from office. Howard-Browne has not specified who poses such a threat to Trump’s life, which left Dull and cohost Dave Kistler to speculate that Trump’s recent move to bar transgender people from the military may have “angered a lot of people” who could potentially want to retaliate.

Dull cited threats he has personally received, which he said came from “the LGBT group,” and which he said proves that “there is a hatred” within the LGBTQ community. Dull went on to explain that threats from LGBTQ people aren’t surprising “because the philosophy of the ‘LBGT’ group comes right out of the pit of hell” and because “Satan’s mission statement is in the first part of John 10 where it says, ‘The thief cometh but not for to kill and steal and destroy,’ and you see that in the LGBT group and other groups out there that are anti-God, anti-Christ, anti-Christian.”

Kistler went on to praise Trump’s ban on transgender people serving in the military as “absolutely amazing from a spiritual standpoint” and a “move that is in accord with what the scripture teaches with respect to human sexuality.” Trump’s actions, according to Kistler, are responsible for “creating a strong nationalist mindset with respect to the United States of America.”

Linda Rivera #conspiracy barenakedislam.com

I’m very sad to say that HM pro-Islam, pro-Sharia, anti-Christian, anti-Jewish, anti-God British government is determined to utterly DESTROY the legitimate, patriotic, political party, Britain First. Not only have they imprisoned Britain First leaders, Jayda and Paul, for many months for protesting Muslim gang rapes, tortures and sexual enslavement of Britain’s little non-Muslim white girls, but their Facebook page has been almost wiped out. It now shows only 9 likes. I was able to make two comments and the comments after that wouldn’t go through.

All their articles are gone. BF updated their website address. When you click on it, you can’t get it. This is EXTREMELY HEARTBREAKING. What is wrong with the indigenous British people? Why must they be so passive? They’re so indoctrinated. I’m native English. The entire nation of native Brits should be taking to the streets in MASSIVE daily protests. Egypt’s Muslims took to the streets in the mega millions to protest the takeover of their country by the Muslim Brotherhood. The protesters WON.

I know someone in Britain who knows about the extreme danger of Islam. Her daughter who is about 40 yrs-old says her mum is a crackpot!!! She has been successfully brainwashed. She, and mega millions like her, have no idea of the horrors that lie ahead. How can anyone from other countries help Britain, when native Brits won’t help themselves? Please God, Get Jayda and Paul free and help Britain First! Thank You, God! Amen.

I clicked on Britain First FB page right now. It says, “This page isn’t available”. So SAD. George Washington warned: “”If the freedom of speech is taken away then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter.” Is the British Government preparing gulags for non-Muslims?

ron4jesus #fundie rr-bb.com

I hope this explodes wide open and I know what will happen if he lied. I am prepared to deal with that but this is our country and the Constitution says he has to be a natural born citizen. OBAMA the Constitution is not flawed !!!!!!!!!!!! YOU ARE !!!!!!!!!!!!! If this is proven he lied I can't imagine what will happen but it will be bad BIGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG TIME !!!!!!! I live near Chicago and what happens happens. No foreign born person is going to come and take the biggest job in this country and tear it all apart because he don't agree with our laws. In the back of my mind I wonder if this Obama personally knows Osama bin Laden and they planned this years ago. They can't beat us militarily but they can beat us within the country by picking a leader to dismantle America from within. I will never understand how our enemy are the Islam Fanatics who are bent on destroying us and we vote a Muslim man in who was also taught that evil religion. We must be nuts and the schools finally dumbed our kids down and some adults as well to believe this guy can do miracles with our problems here. This GUY is ANTI-GOD and ANTI-ISRAEL . ANTI everything else Christians are against. I think if he gets in they will have concentration camps soon for us. Instead of HITLER killing Jews it will be him killing Christians. It does say beheadings in the last days and what does ISLAM teach ? I will die for my GOD and will not deny him for death is GAIN. I can't wait to leave this filthy sewer world and the stench I smell in it. Christians will be his biggest problem if he gets in. I am just not sure how much GOD will let us see and be involved in before he gets us out of here. If I have to die then I will die, but will never deny my GOD and if by chance OBAMA reads this then come get me, I am ready for a brand new life but you will never see the life I will inherit OBAMA. I pray for your soul !!!!!!!!!!! OK I was preaching here for a minute sorry !!!!!

Connor R #fundie debunkedevil.blogspot.com

[Someone attempting to debunk this webpage http://www.evilbible.com/common_lies.htm]

CTS- Common Lies Christians Tell
Ok, a few apparent lies that Christians tell. For the sake of being thorough I'll go through all of them, even the ones mentioned in the introduction. Before I begin, I'd like to make a point about lying. A lie is defined as "a false statement with deliberate intent to deceive". This means that Charlotte is accusing Christians of, completely on purpose, deceiving everyone that they discuss the following topics. That is one large accusation. I would contend that most, if not all, Christians don't fully understand the Einstein, Darwin, or American topics. Now I'll begin the explanations.

Einstein

This is a hotly debated issue. I'm not sure whether or not there is enough evidence to say it one way or another, but there are two basic conflicting views. Richard Dawkins (wrote "The God Delusion") sees Einstein as a pantheist, which he goes on to say is basically "sexed-up" atheism. He believes Einstein's use of the word 'God' was always used only in a poetic and metaphorical sense. On the other side of the issue, Susan Wise Bauer (wrote "The Well-Trained Mind") doesn't try to portray Einstein as a Christian, but argues that Einstein believes in one god and had a tendency toward deism. This view basically portrays God as a universal clock-maker, who winds everything up and then lets it tick without interfering. So those are the differing views, I'll post a few links below so you can see both sides. What we can say about Einstein is that he absolutely believed in the existence of Jesus as a historical figure. He also believed that religion and science can cooperate, they are not in contention.

Evidence for Jesus's Existence

First of all, the Bible is absolutely reliable as a historical document. Archeologists frequently discover artifacts that confirm the events recorded in the Bible. For a video on these findings click here. The writings of Josephus, a Roman citizen who lives from c. 37-100 wrote about Jesus. He calls him "a wise man, if indeed it is appropriate to call him a man", and says that he performs paradoxes and won over many Jews and Greeks. He even calls him the Christ. In a later writing, he also calls James the "brother of Jesus, who is the Christ". Many other early scholars reference "Christus", a Latinized Greek translation of the Hebrew word "Messiah". Justin Martyr mentioned an "Acts of Pilate", a record of some cases Pilate was involved in, but only Tertullian also mentions this. The evidence for the Bible and Jesus's historicity is to numerous to do more than touch on, so look around for yourself.

Darwin Recanted on his Deathbed

I don't believe this to be true. There is very little evidence for this. This story became popular when it was preached by an evangelical woman named "Lady Hope". She may have visited Darwin, but if she did it is most likely that she did so around 7 months before his death. At this point in time he would not have been bedridden as she had said, and therefore was unlikely that he was studying the Bible then. As Charlotte said, his daughter opposed this and his wife made no comment on it. It's likely she would have, as she was worried about the "godless nature" of his views. This doesn't rule it out entirely, but it doesn't have the background to be stated as fact.

Evolution is false (or only a theory)

This is an interesting one for sure. I agree that micro-evolution is as close to a fact as you can get with our limited knowledge. All it does is explain the variation we see every day as humans. Charlotte goes on to admit that "macro evolution remains a theory", and then contends that it is a fact (by saying "EVOLUTION DID HAPPEN"). I know a certain line of resources (look to the right) that would contend otherwise, and with scientific observations of their own. The theory of evolution by natural selection is at this point in time filled with far too many holes to be assumed to be a scientific fact. I'm also going to stray away from saying it is a flat-out falsity because of the evidence on the other side of it. Hopefully time will tell, but for now, Christians saying it's only a theory aren't lying.

Atheists Have No Morals

Once again, Charlotte using a statistic to prove her point and does not give a source for it. It is a gross generalization to say that no atheist alive has morals, so I don't agree with this statement. I do, however, take issue with Charlotte's accusations that Christians cause true immorality (genocide, slavery, etc). I've already disproved the slavery point, see here. I've also argued many times that genocide is not often caused by Christians, but when it is there are absolutely not following the Bible's teaching. The only wars backed by God were against societies taking part in extreme immorality (demon worship, human sacrifice, sodomy, etc).

Regarding women's suffrage, the Woman's Christian Temperance Union was one of the most influential groups pushing women's rights. Eleanor Roosevelt, a huge influential leader, was a theist (although not a Christian). The Christians who believed that women should not vote misunderstood the historical context of verses like 1 Corinthians 14.35 and Colossians 3.18. Women do have a different God-given role than men, but that is a different topic.

Back to atheists' morals. The Bible teaches that "the Law is written on our hearts" (Romans 2). This would imply that every person, unless their conscience has been severely fragmented by sin, has a basic moral awareness. Furthermore, many values consistent with Christianity are encouraged in our society. However, an argument exists that atheism, if left unchecked, will cause moral deprivation. If there is no God, there exists no standard for ethics beyond what is helpful for society. When no objective standard exists, it is easier to argue that choices like homosexuality, bestiality, abortion, prostitution, etc can do no material harm to society. In fact, one of the only atheists against gay marriage is Australian Prime Minister Julia Gillard, who has been labeled a hypocrite by fellow atheists. Food for thought.

United States Founded on Christianity

Charlotte is correct here, but I'm going to add some perspective. There is no disputing the fact that the majority of the founding fathers and colonists at the time were Christians. This means that America was founded on a number of biblical Christian values (equality, respect, etc). However, John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, and James Madison were all deists. They believed in a generic god, but did not accept orthodox Christianity. Charlotte is correct, one of the principle reasons for the voyage to America was freedom of religion. I've said this before, and I'll say it again: State sponsorship is not conducive to a strong Christian faith. There's no need for Christians to push this idea. This "lie" is likely based on ignorance, not deception, I've not met one Christian who knows the information I just posted above. Atheists, please inform my brothers of this respectfully, there are not lying to you.

There Are No Atheists In Foxholes

You can wikipedia this to understand it. This is meant as an expression, not a statistical fact. The Military Association of Atheists and Freethinkers, which Charlotte referenced, stands against the use of this as a statistic. It's simply meant to show that many people re-evaluate their positions on God's existence when under circumstances of extreme stress. This common idea is backed up by the experiences of people who encounter NDEs, or Near-death experiences. I've posted a link below for some information about atheists in particular who encounter this phenomenon.

Near-death experiences: http://www.near-death.com/experiences/atheists01.html
Einstein opinions:
http://www.clockbackward.com/2009/02/08/was-albert-einstein-religious/
Historicity of Jesus:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_Jesus#Non-Christian_sources
Julia Gillard: http://gayrights.change.org/blog/view/atheists_against_gay_marriage

Bro- Rob #fundie crisismagazine.com

Comment on an article about Richard Dawkins being "on the path to belief".

I think that is WONDERFUL news if Richard Dawkins’ soul is seeking God after all… His conversion will be a MOST profound witness to an unbelieving world!! So I say: Go Lord go! Do your wonderful work of conversion in his heart and soul! And then his mind will gradually catch up as well… As for me I always found myself somewhere in the “literalist fundamentalist” camp in general…even though I don’t agree with every detail they say…and even though I’m now Catholic not Protestant. But with regard to the plain scientific of evolutionism and also the LITERAL truth of Genesis in general….to me it’s a clearcut stonewall case, no-brainer…period. The more I studied it, the more conclusive it gets, point by point. I lamented that so many Christians, even Popes, never saw through the lies and spurious claims of Darwinism…it’s as if all mankind were HYPNOTISED by it! But No problem… No problem for me, that is – but LOTS of grief from EVERY side from those deluded by Darwinist pseudoscience…including from plenty of my fellow Christians. (Bless ‘em). How craftily the devil has sown the seeds of doubt lies and confusion in human minds! (The Protestants lost a lot of the true christian spirituality, but they sure have compensated by being better intellectuals than their Catholic peers! At least in relation to Darwinist heresies, that is!) But anyway, no matter – it is the SOUL which matters much more deeply than the rational mind in the person. It is the soul that most needs God and needs salvation. Therefore, Halleluyah for Richard Dawkins!! Come Lord Jesus, come! Holy Spirit, have your way with him! And let many stand in awe when he “comes out” as a believer! (I always have hoped and prayed for his conversion myself).

Ken Ham #fundie answersingenesis.org

The topic of evolution, especially regarding how politicians have responded when asked if they believe in evolution or not, has been in the news lately. The very liberal Huffington Post published an article on the topic stating the following:

"The 2016 presidential campaign is already upon us and the debate is heating up over an unexpected issue—the theory of evolution. Of course, in an ideal world, evolution would never really become a campaign issue. But the anti-science wing of the Republican Party continues to voice skepticism. Apologists for this wing would dearly like to distract the media and the voting public from what is, frankly, a national if not a global embarrassment."

"In truth, the President of the United States needs to be scientifically literate."

The truth of the matter, however, is that such statements as those in this article, and the questions about belief in evolution being asked of politicians, actually portray their anti-God agenda.

Just as the pro-evolution Bill Nye “The Science Guy” has done (and continues to do), the author of the Huffington Post article attempts to equate rejection of evolution with the rejection of the whole of science and thus undermining studies in biology, genetics, diseases, and computing. Because of a commitment to the religion of naturalism, many evolutionists try to intimidate people through the use of terms like “anti-science” in their attempts to bully people into thinking that those who reject evolution are undermining technological advancement.

I have observed that in most instances when the secular media write articles about Answers in Genesis, the authors will state we are against science and will use terms like “anti-intellectual,” “anti-academic,” and so on, and claim we are undermining the whole of what they call science. And then, when using the word science, they will discuss technology and try to intimidate people into believing that organizations like Answers in Genesis will adversely affect America’s technological achievements for the future. This is the agenda of Bill Nye, as was seen in his debate with me last year, and as witnessed in his numerous interviews and lectures around the world.

That’s why during my debate with Bill Nye, I concentrated on explaining that the word science means “knowledge.” And then I explained the difference between historical science (beliefs about the past) and observational science (using our five senses, repeatable tests, and so on) that helps build our technology.

During the debate, I showed video clips of creation scientists who had developed some great technological achievements. I then asked Bill Nye a question (a question I have often asked publicly of all evolutionists—which secularists won’t and cannot answer):

"Can you name one piece of technology that could only have been developed starting with a belief in molecules-to-man evolution?"

There is no such example! In fact, the real reason Bill Nye—and reporters questioning politicians who are contemplating running for US President—are bullying and intimidating people about evolution is not because belief in molecules-to-man evolution is necessary for technological advancement. It’s due more to the secular humanistic, anti-God agenda they want implemented!

You see, if there is no God who created us—no God who is the absolute authority—then “every way of a man is right in his own eyes” (Proverbs 21:2).

When the Huffington Post author states, “In truth, the President of the United States needs to be scientifically literate,” the author really is saying, “In truth, the President of the United States needs to be committed to the religion of naturalism and reject the absolute authority of the Word of God.” Having abandoned the Bible as the authority, the President can then insist on supporting gay marriage, abortion, and whatever else such a President deems is “right in his own eyes” (which is what we see happening).

Debra Moore #fundie exposingliberallies.blogspot.com

Wake Up, Parents!

Can you imagine the likes of Bill Ayers instructing your precious children in their educational experience? Talk about a nightmare. Unfortunately, this is happening throughout the nation. Trusting Americans are sending their children off to the public school systems totally unaware that radicals are indoctrinating them with anti-American, anti-capitalism, and anti-God agendas.

We need to wake up because our children's heart and souls are at risk. It's horrifying to think that America has come to this point, but we must face the truth -- there are dark forces at work in the public schools.

Michael Voris/Church Militant #fundie #wingnut #conspiracy #homophobia churchmilitant.com

THE LUCIFERIAN LEFT
The whole pack of them are working for Hell.

The Left, all of it — entertainment media, politicians, Hollywood studio liberals, screenwriters, actors, college professors and administrators, NGO's, social justice warriors, liberal philanthropists, nutty philosophers, news media, warped sociologists, man-caused climate change cheerleaders, music industry executives, mind-rot authors, atheist scientists, you name it — the whole lot of them and anyone else who would fit under the anti-God umbrella, they collectively comprise the Luciferian Left. And that is to say the ruling elites of the culture who reject God and morality and seek to destroy any vestige of decency left in society.

It has taken them a couple generations, but they have managed to accomplish just about everything on their bucket list you could imagine. In just the space of my lifetime, we have accepted no-fault divorce, contraception, abortion, shattered families, single parenthood, test tube babies, designer babies, surrogate motherhood, open homosexuality, instant-access pornography, the corruption of higher "education," same-sex marriage, a giant welfare state, the destruction of the middle class, crippling debt, a "no one is accountable" approach, yet everyone goes to Heaven, there is no Hell — most people respond they are basically good people.
[Long screed about Harvey Weinstein here]
his whole Luciferian leftist mentality has more than crept into the Church. Think about the gay priest sex abuse cases where psychologically disturbed men were accepted into the seminary and then proceeded to rape teenage boys by the thousands. What did leaders do — promoted them, protected them, lied about them, covered for them, looked the other way, pleaded ignorance, then when finally caught and trapped, pretended they were ignorant, not vigilant enough.

And now, these same men are sitting atop the largest meltdown of the Church in world history, liquidating the patrimony of millions of immigrants, allowing liars in collars and miters to pervert the Faith, corrupt young minds, destroy the liturgy, keep silent on the greatest holocaust in the history of humanity, advance sodomy as a gift from God, convert the Church into a giant social justice agency and so on. They promote much of the same anti-God agenda as does the Luciferian Left — man-centered, climate change, world peace, destabilization of countries in the name of fighting poverty, backing the distribution of population control programs with government funds.

Where exactly is the line between these two worlds? Evil is evil whether it wears a swastika or a hammer and sickle or hides behind a hypocritical, do-good cultural agenda or dresses up in Church robes to destroy that same Church from within by teaming up with evil agents in the name of good.

Can you imagine, for just a moment, what the Last Day is going to look like? Dear God! All the sins and crimes against God and Man all seen together at the same time and same place for the entire human race and then the Final Judgment — all this evil, intended evil, the plotted overthrow of good, the perversion of truth, the trillions of trillions upon trillions of mortal sins committed by tens of billions of humans, many of whom worked tirelessly to normalize and establish these evils as actual goods.

Thank God we have a reasonable hope that all men are saved. Right!

Ken Ham #fundie christianpost.com

Young Earth Creationist Ken Ham is speaking out against the upcoming "Reason Rally" at the Lincoln Memorial in Washington D.C., which is being advertised as "the world's largest atheist party," by stating that atheists will be worshiping man in their "anti-God religion."

Ham wrote on his Facebook page on Tuesday that the upcoming secular gathering "is really a worship service — they worship man — worshipping the god of self. They exalt reason and have a blind faith that the universe and life arose by natural processes."

Much like he has said in the past, Ham warned that atheism is a an anti-God religion, which "exalts fallible human reason."

The Creation Museum and Ark Encounter president took aim at famous atheist author Lawrence Krauss, who will be speaking at the rally, and once said: "Forget Jesus ... the stars died so you can be here."

NKP_Vet #fundie freerepublic.com

[Washington State Legislature has enough votes to legalize same-sex marriage.]

Christine Gregoire, just another pro-abortion, pro-sodomite “catholic”, that should be excommunicated from the Catholic Church. She can take that monkey-looking Cuomo creep from NY State with her. 95% of the land-mass of Washington State is as conservative as hell, but the millions of California transplants which make up socialist King County and surrounding Seattle domimate the politics in the state. And ground control to Gregoire, Cuomo, and the rest of the anti-God creeps that make up the democrat/socialist party there is no such thing as “gay marriage” and never will be. Marriage is between a man and woman, and these liberal anti-God morons will one day have to answer to their maker for mocking the Lord Jesus Christ.
Look for Hussein in tomorrow’s State of the Union address to come out in support of “gay marriage”. Larry Sinclair will be in attendance.

Trifecta!!!

...but what will we call them after SSTDT opens?

Nya Nya Jo #fundie edendecoded.com

I frankly get tired of uninformed people attempting to blame the disappearance of the traditional Black family on the man. Men didn't leave the home - women instead opted to have homes without men. Black women opted to side with Democrats and their liberal policies so they could fund a lifestyle without Black men - a lifestyle of whoredom.

The problem with Black America is NOT fatherlessness. The problem is really the acceptance of 'whore culture.'

YOU MAY BE ASKING, what is whore culture? Whore culture is where women have premarital sex resulting in the birth of unwanted children. In other words: bastard children.

By definition a bastard is a "person born of parents not married to each other." Other terms for bastard include love-child, or someone born out of wedlock. So when I use the term 'bastard' here, I'm not doing it to be mean or disrespectful.

I'm driving home a point that really needs to be made, heard and deeply understood if we're ever going to fix the problems that currently plague the so-called black community. Because most black children, the tune of at least 70% or more according to the most recent stats, are out of wedlock births. Which makes them bastards.

And typically, these children witness their mothers participating in whoredom. For instance: the mother will have her boyfriend staying over, and while she thinks her child is asleep, the child can hear the sounds of their mother and her boyfriend having sex. Which often leads to the child venturing into future lifestyle of whoredom: girls becoming whores, and sons becoming whoremongers.

A mother like this is NOT a good mother, despite her protest to the contrary; but a whoreish mother. How can a 'good' mother put her sexual desires before the mental, spiritual and emotional welfare of her own innocent child?

And why should a man be expected to cohabitate with a woman that wants to live the lifestyle of a whore? Of course no man in his rightful mind would sign up to marry a whorish woman; nor to live in a whore house!

Now before you go getting all bent out of shape over my use of the word whore, the textbook definition of a whore is a prostitute. And a prostitute is defined as (typically) a woman who engages in sexual activity for payment. In other words: any woman who grants sex in return for any kind of gratuitous favor, as in getting bills paid, rent, car notes, hair and nails done etc., technically qualifies as a whore.

And as a result of all this whorish activity within the black community, the number of single-mother homes skyrocketed drastically. (cited US census, Center for Disease Control Statistics, and National Vital Statistics):

•From 1930 to 1960 approximately 30% of the births were out-of-wedlock (illegitimate)
•In 1965 illegitimate births rose to approximately 50%
•From 2000 to 2015 the illegitimate birth rate hovered around 70 to 72%

To put things in perspective, a 70% illegitimate birth rate is approximately one million out-of-wedlock births a year! Let that sink in for a moment! Over a five year span, black women have given birth to roughly five million bastard babies. My God: what have we done to our community!

Everyone keeps asking 'What happened to the Black Family?' The question is NOT what happened to the Black family, the question should be WHO happened to the Black family. And statistics and history show it's the modern black woman that destroyed the traditional family unit.

I POSIT A THEORY HERE, that black women were seduced into this role of single-motherhood. She didn't just think this on her own. In her own self-interest, she made a deal with liberal policies and laws put forth by Washington Democrats that promised generous benefits to any woman willing to break with the tradition of marriage as the foundation for building a family on.

These liberal policies tempted the following generations of black women to have sex without worry of pregnancy being an issue; because whether the guy responsible for the pregnancy chose to stick around or not, the government would step in to help ease the pain and stress that came with making such a poor choice. Such policies weren't designed to strengthen black families: they were anti-god from the beginning with the end result of destroying black families, as women proudly bragged about not needing a man, and being able to be both the mother and father to their children.

Basically, black women made a deal with the Devil. She sold her womanhood for hoodrat status, government trinkets, empty prestige and damnable liberal illusions of being able to create and raise a family without a husband.

Black women ultimately married their destiny to liberal policies and beliefs. It was their acceptance of anti-god politics that created broken families and bastard children.

Todd Strandberg #fundie raptureready.com

The liberal media today demonstrably hate the idea of Christians becoming actively involved in the political process. Bible-believing ministers are usually portrayed as hateful zealots who are narrow-minded, bigoted, and homophobic when they oppose the anti-God wrongs wrapped up in those key issues described above. To express opposition--especially organized opposition--to the "pro choice" or "gay rights" agendas is to invite hate-filled fire from media, whether from news organizations or from Hollywood and entertainment in general.

The humanists seem to think that Christianity is so naturally offensive it needs to be excluded from areas of public life.

Homosexuals make up less than 5 percent of the population. Yet they are immensely effective in their efforts to impose their minority view on the rest of us. Although they are much greater in number, the same goes for those who push the right to abort babies--most all such killings done for the sake of convenience. The news media and entertainment industries consistently and loudly beat the drums of support for these anti-God practices.

Even within a republican form of democratic government, such as America's, majority input is supposed to serve as society's guiding principles. With 90 million claiming to be evangelical believers, those Christians have a constitutional right and a moral responsibility to demand that Christian values be reflected in American society.

Tragically, rather than exerting stronger influence on culture, evangelical Christianity seems to be losing the battle in producing godly results within the American political process. This is due primarily to many federal judges of this nation being allowed to legislate from the benches of the courts they have given over to the humanists.

Thankfully, one day, when Christ reigns and rules on earth, the humanistic form of governance will be a long-past memory.

Angyl #fundie rr-bb.com

Thread: My professor is a LIAR!! (I think...)

I'm taking both a World Religions course and a Religions in America course this semester at ASU. Just last week we were going through Christianity in one of them and the professor pulled some garbage out of his hat that floored me...

The New Testament...Matthew written by Matthew, right? Mark, written by Mark? Luke written by Luke? John, written by John? Peter written by Peter, etc?

He says "No. They were written much later after these men would have been dead!"

He said that the gospels were written starting around 70AD and were written by others who simply gave them the names (Like Matthew, Mark, Luke and John) as a sign of respect...not in deception since this was a custom at the time!

Me...I'm not buyin' it. He didn't mention where he got his sources from but indicated that this was "the agreement among historians today."

So...our children are being taught that the ONLY author of the New Testament who is who he says he is is Paul.

Jesus was probably illiterate...
And so were Peter and the rest...

's all I can do not to remind my professor that Jesus was in the temple wowing the rabbis when he was 12 years old...and that you DID NOT go into the Temple to preach/teach unless you were reading straight from the scrolls.

My children are only 5 and 1 but this is just another reason why I'll never send them to college (assuming God leaves us in this hell long enough) unless they've proven to me that they've got the extreme Christian grounding needed to survive the anti-God, leftist, liberal, tripe propaganda that will be thrown at them.

KarateMom #fundie rr-bb.com

(Heart told the RNC not to use Barracuda for Sarah Palin)

I love that song and the group. How very sad that they are for the anti-God leftists. It seems that most of the hollywood actors/actresses and singers are that way. So sad for their souls.

Live! #fundie christianforums.com

Most religions except for Christianity, Judaism, and Islam can be
considered "evil", since most of them support things which are immoral and
anti-God. Unfortunately, the American government allows for this evil to
take place. Some countries actually do the right thing and establish
Christianity as the official religion, and ban some of the 'evil' religions.

Vox Day #fundie voxday.blogspot.com

[A Christian college student commits suicide after reading "The God Delusion" by Richard Dawkins.]

Such a waste. It's tragic to think that after reaching the correct logical conclusion to Dawkinsian moral logic, the unfortunate young man didn't see fit to shoot the pretentious Archbishop of High Church Atheism first.

Minister R. A. Artis #fundie books.google.com

By the time Jonathan was fourteen he had grown physically as well as spiritually and was on his way towards fulfilling the destiny before him. He was taking graduate courses in music, linguistics, mathematics, physics, and theology at the prestigious University of Oxford in Great Britain. Jonathan was even highly recruited by Professor Stephen Hawking, the theoretical physicist and former holder of the Lucasian Chair of Mathematics at Cambridge University, to attend the school and study astrophysics and cosmology. This delighted his father, Jibrail, a world renowned astrophysicist who had worked with Dr. Hawking in the past. Jonathan knew the scriptures and deep matters concerning the nature of God as well as any theologian, thanks to the insight he received from his mentor, Goel.
However, as intelligent as he was, Jonathan was still an adolescent and developmentally prone to recklessness and naivety. This was evident in his relationships with the older students he encountered at Cambridge. He was constantly teased and bullied by some of the older Oxfordians, who were jealous of his great intelligence and the fact he came from a wealthy family, and his heritage. The breaking point was when he was confronted by members of the rugby team, who had been merciless in their torment of him. They had been quelled several times by the presence of his protector, Goel. But rare moments when Goel was not with Jonathan gave the bullies opportunities to strike. It appeared the young scholar was going to be beaten and humiliated like never before, but Jonathan was able, due to his training, to conquer several of the much larger bullies.
Yet, sheer numbers threatened to overwhelm Jonathan, when out of nowhere, unbeknownst to Jonathan, he had an ally who came to his rescue. Together they successfully repelled his attackers. Introducing himself as Alexandru Musatin, he and Jonathan forged a friendship that would last well into adulthood. When Goel learned of this, he flatly refused to acknowledge the friendship between Jonathan and Alexandru for reasons he never fully revealed. The young Musatin, who was seventeen years old, had “a certain darkness about him,” however, the two continued their relationship under the scrutinizing watch of Goel.
Jonathan’s parents had an estate in the beautiful highlands of Scotland near Loch Ness, and during the summer they often stayed there and entertained their closest friends and associates. Throughout his fourteenth year, Jonathan proved time and again how utterly talented and accomplished he was. He had achieved a perfect 4.0 grade point average at Oxford and even attended a course in astrophysics at Cambridge where he simply astounded Professor Hawking with his insights into quantum mechanics and cosmology. His music professors said that his violin and piano playing was, to quote one of them, “…as if he had channeled the abilities of Chopin and Rachmaninoff along with Yitzhak Perlman along with his own unique style to create someone unparalleled in musical abilities.”
Ironically, it was his musical talents that on a particular night would prove to present him with the greatest challenge of his young life. His parents had an outside reception at the ancient Urquhart Castle overlooking the sea. They invited fifty of some of the wealthiest and most influential people in the world to seek their support for the Rabin-Aziz Foundation. People who were shipping magnates, oil tycoons, entertainment personalities, political personages, and those with backgrounds in religion, science and the humanities were the guests. Most importantly, Jonathan was highlighted as the special musical performer. First, Jonathan played Chopin’s Minute Waltz followed by his Etude in C# minor Op.10 No. 4 on the piano. He then amazed them with his interpretation of Rachmaninoff’s Prelude in C# minor Op. 3 No. 2.
Later in the evening he played the Partita in D minor for solo violin by Johann Sebastian Bach, after which he performed Flight of the Bumblebee by Nicolai Rimski-Korsakov. He simply astonished the crowd and his parents with a piece of his own composition he called, The Meeting of Yeshua and Lucifer, inspired by a dream he had of a confrontational conversation between Christ and the Devil. Jonathan received a standing ovation that lasted for several minutes. He took center stage again and played the beautifully composed violin solo for Schindler’s List, which moved the audience to tears. Jonathan received many accolades and high praise for his musicality and academic success from the many guests at his parents’ soiree.
The compliments filled the featured artist’s head with pride. Goel, who had been silent during Jonathan’s performance, noticed the arrogance creeping into the heart of the young man and he pulled him aside to warn him of the consequences of falling prey to haughtiness. Jonathan incredulously retorted back at his mentor that he did not see anything wrong with taking pride in any of his accomplishments. The guardian angel firmly stated that Jonathan should remember the case of Lucifer, who despite his own perfection of design, was the quarry of hubris and fell from grace.
Goel, in fact, was so straightforward with his charge that the reprimand severely wounded Jonathan to the point he fled the angel’s presence. Running down to the shores of Loch Ness, Jonathan’s young heart was filled with anger at his mentor for his harsh chastisement. Jonathan thought that it was nothing wrong with him having a little pride in his abilities. Having all those affluent people praise him delighted and validated him. Even so, Goel’s words rang in his mind.
“Beware of pride in your abilities, Jonathan, for they can be the root of greater transgressions against the Lord. Remember the fall of Lucifer and how his self-importance absorbed and overcame him. Rather than humble himself in front of God by admitting that he was wrong to speak out against Him, he chose to hate God. He threatened to punish God by punishing his Creator and, subsequently, name himself ‘God.’ Had Satan repented and turned from his evil, anti-God practices, God would have forgiven him and restored Lucifer’s former glory and standing. However, Satan’s immense pride would not allow him to ask God for forgiveness. Like him, Jonathan, the Lord has blessed you with many talents and gifts for which others will admire and applaud you. But you must always keep in mind that it is God who deserves all the credit and glory. It is not by your strength but by the grace of the Lord that you can do anything at all and you must acknowledge Him for that.”
As the words of Goel permeated his being, Jonathan was unaware that another presence had crept into his mind. Lucifer himself had decided to take this opportunity to tempt and mesmerize the young prodigy into taking the journey down the road that would lead him to becoming a servant of evil. Speaking to the part of Jonathan’s psyche that desires to be complimented and praised, Lucifer seduces the boy.
“Why shouldn’t you be complimented, Jonathan? You are among the most gifted and talented, and you should be applauded and praised.”
Jonathan struggled within himself to ward off the melodious words that sang so beautifully in his mind as the dark master of evil continued to tickle his mind with honeyed words of affirmation.
“Jonathan, the Lord wants you to be proud of your gifts. You have worked very hard to take what He has given you and make it yours. Be proud and acknowledge your long hours of practice and all the hard work you have done.”
The words of adoration and praise were intoxicating like a strong wine as Lucifer continued his assault on the boy’s fragile ego.
Jonathan sensed that this was not just thoughts being formulated in his mind. He felt the palpable presence of someone near him but unseen.
Jonathan was so sure of this that he said aloud, “I know someone else is here. If there is, make your presence known.”
Surprisingly, Jonathan felt a strong hand on his shoulder, and, in shock, he whirled around to find that right out of the nothingness which surrounded him a figure appeared.
“You do not need to fear me, Jonathan, for I appear to those who seek my counsel.” the figure said coolly.
The form that stood before Jonathan was indeed a solid person and not some wispy apparition. He was male in appearance, tall and beautiful to look upon. He glowed with a light that seemed to come from within his being, but it was his eyes that were the most compelling thing about him. They were a brilliant blue that seemed to penetrate the soul and uncover the innermost secrets that dwelled deep within the human spirit.
Fearfully, yet with a courageousness that surprised even himself, Jonathan slightly stammered, “Hoo— who are you?”
Smiling graciously, the being intoned musically, “I am known by many names. Many I’m sure you have heard of— some maybe unknown to you— for they have been lost in time.”
Looking deeply at the handsome young man, the mysterious being said, “Let us just say I am a friend and for a long time I have waited and watched for you.”
Seeing the confused look on his face the mysterious stranger said, “I know, I know, my young friend. You have a million questions, and trust me, you will have the answers to them all. In brief, let me say in all the myths and legends your species have concocted, they are based on some truth. Since time immemorial I and the members of my race have dwelt among you, some of us in secret, some openly but all with the same curiosity about you humans. My people are from a world that is hundreds of thousands of years more advanced than yours, where the technology is based on ethereal or spiritual energy. We are a race of watchers, where in the multitudes of worlds, we observed and sought for signs of intelligences other than our own. In the infinite vastness of the cosmos we found none. We were about to give up when we found your world, a planetary system rich and teeming with life. But more importantly, we found a young species with unlimited genetic potential and a latent intelligence that would one day rival our own. So, we chose to experiment on your species and created Homo sapiens.”
Incredulously, Jonathan said, “That’s not true! According to the Word of God, Jehovah created man and all there is in the world! Who are you to dispute His Word?!”
Shaking his head at the naiveté of the boy, the being said, “That is what you have been taught to believe in order to keep you blind to the truth and a slave to the will of a less than benevolent god.”
“My names are as many and varied as my history! I am the great Prince Ea of the Mesopotamians, the one who created you and, therefore, your civilization! I am the sun god Ra of the Egyptians, the sustainer of life! I am Sol Invictus, the Unconquered Sun of the Roman Empire! I am Quetzalcoatl, the lord of the morning star of the Aztecs! But you may call me Lucifer, the Enlightened One!”

Barbara Hendrix #fundie books.google.com

When humanity ignores the basics of principles of human biology it is to their peril. Anal intercourse is unnatural because the pathology is not designed for it, nor has it any biological purpose, and therefore it brings about physical, mental, and emotional damage. But also heterosexual intercourse with many and frequent partners spreads diseases and causes emotional damage because I did not design the human body and psyche for it.

HIV/Aids transmission is far more likely by anal intercourse. It is because the anus is not biologically designed for intercourse. I designed the female vagina with thick mucus to protect the vaginal wall, and an acid environment which kills a lot of sperm and the seminal liquid. The wall of the anus, lacking these, is very easily torn in intercourse. Moreover the presence of infected feces in the anal tract adds to the likelihood of the transmission of the HIV/Aids virus.

When humanity deviates from normal sexual behavior, breaking the patterns that I created, specifically as it relates to the proper order of sexual intercourse, perilous consequences are the natural outcome. Disorder, whether spiritual or natural, consequently leads to internal and external chaos, not to mention sickness and diseases. I was not being a whimsical God, when I gave mankind the laws of social interaction in the book Of Leviticus, but instead I was framing humanity within the construct of my protection via obedience to my Holy Word.

Homosexuality is a direct assault upon my creation. It is anti-God, and thus anti-family, and anti-life. No one is born a homosexual. The gay community sincerely to believe the lie that they were born that way, a belief that gives them an expedient justification for their deviant conduct. Godliness and restraint requires genuine effort, whereas, disobedience to my Word is taking the easy road, which leads to eternal damnation. All one need to do is kneel to every craving and inclination, even if their immorality injures themselves as well as others.


EvolutionismAnti-Science Lie #fundie youtube.com

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Evolution is an anti-science idea which not only violates the Second Law of Thermodynamics, but is nowhere observable and reproducible even after "billions of years" have gone by. It cannot pass the test of scientific method. The Genesis "after their kind" principle has never been violated in all recorded human history and thus is observable and scientifically sound . Evolutionists love to hide behind the word "science" to spread evolution and other naturalistic beliefs (big bang and abiogenesis). No scientists should account for the origin of the universe by only looking within the universe any more than looking within books for their origin and computers for their origin. Intelligent designers always exist outside of their objects of design. Atheism makes as much sense as reading "The God Delusion" and concluding Richard Dawkins doesn't exist just because he can't be found in his book (his creation).

Jesus Groupie #fundie rr-bb.com

I guess 50 years wasn't enough time for him [a Congressman who didn't say 'Under God' during the Pledge of Allegiance] to get used to saying the pledge with God included. Only a person who is anti-God would do this. If he loved God, he would want to say His Name. Loving and acknowledging God is not considered forcing religion on anyone. The whole charade of separation of church and state is ludicrous.

Helventia #fundie forum.nationstates.net

Finally, a Western country has done something sensible. For once I thought that the West is descending into chaos and anarchy because there are so many of them (it all started in 2001 with Netherlands and then most of Western Europe followed the suit - the latest being France and outside Europe the latest victim is Minnesota, USA) doing anti-Godly things by promoting homosexuality masquerading it with the same old excuse of 'human rights and equality'.I was shocked when UN recognised same sex marriage as a 'human right'. But ultimately, sensibility has prevailed. Way to go, Russia! And then the Europeans wonder why their economy is not growing- its because they are displeasing God by promoting homosexuality.

Jhud #fundie ibelieve.com

[RE: Attacks force churches to boost security]

[Dawkins, Dennett, Harris & Hitchens] have made it clear they think the world would be a better place if there were no religious belief, and quite frankly that can’t happen as long as we are still alive – so for those who might already have a beef against Christians, or a mental predilection to this sort of violence, Dawkins et. al. provide a rationale for taking the actions they do.

In short, if one is looking for a justification to kill Christians, what need go no further than either the God Delusion or God is not Great.

Dawkins and his cohorts, in his own language, have popularized the meme of the fundamental evil of religious belief, and as much as they have, they play a part providing a framework for such acts of violence to take place.

cdevidal #fundie godlikeproductions.com

EvolutionVsGod.com has a free 38 minute film in which various evolutionists such as a PhD/associate college professor of Anthropology at UCLA, a PhD/professor of biological sciences and anthropology at USC, a PhD/professor of ecology and evolutionary biology at UCLA and PhD/associate professor of biology at Universiy of Minnesota Morris/famous blogger PZ Myers appear to be stumped by some challenging questions. It's an interesting movie and I recommend you check it out.

In observing responses to the movie, I saw lots of evolutionists mocking but I didn't see one person who answered the questions that apparently stumped the evolutionists. Accusations began to fly: The claim is that in his previous films, the evangelist had edited responses to questions to make the interviewees look bad. Thus the claim is that the stumped evolutionists in this film had simply been edited unfairly.

To which I replied, "OK, I'm sure we'll see a statement from PZ Myers soon explaining how he was misrepresented*, but what about you? Can you answer the questions?" The response often was, "What were the questions?"

Me: "I hadn't written them down so I didn't recall them. But you can see them again if you watch the movie."

Them: "No, I'm not watching that (blankety-blank)." (Which sounds dishonest, but I'll let that pass for now.)


* PZ Myers did claim he was misrepresented: [link to freethoughtblogs.com] But without substantiation. If he gave fuller answers during the interview, I'd like to see them, but he did not: [link to www.google.com (secure)]


So I promised to write down the questions from the film. And by the way, I don't pass any judgment on the quality of these questions. Maybe they're fallacious, and you can help demonstrate that. But before you answer, some simple rules to keep everyone honest.

RULES
* You must give a direct answer to every question or you've failed. Yes, some questions appear to be repeats but please answer them all as they are all slightly different.

* If you give an answer such as "It's not possible to know that" (or something similar) to any question you fail to demonstrate the validity of your worldview. Try harder before posting.

* You agree to the principles in this flowchart or you've failed: [link to www.jacoballee.com]

* You may not commit any logical fallacies or you've failed. Here is a list of some well-known fallacies. [link to www.informationisbeautiful.net] There may be others that I am not currently aware of.


If you don't agree with these rules, don't answer. If Darwinian macro evolution does occur in nature, these questions can be answered without resorting to cheating or underhanded rhetoric to uphold it. Right? I'm sure you'll agree these are fair rules.

Items beginning with an asterisk '*' are questions, and items beginning with an equal sign '=' are important statements which do not require an answer, but which inform the next question, so they must be read and understood.

OK, go!


= "Faith is the great cop-out, the great excuse to evade the need to think and evaluate evidence." ~Richard Dawkins

= "Live Science" says of Darwinian evolution: "It can turn dinosaurs into birds, apes into humans and amphibious mammals into whales."

* Do you believe in evolution?

* Do you think it's a belief?

* When did you start to believe?

* Are you a strong believer in evolution?

= A scientific method is based on "the collection of data through observation and experimentation..." ~Science Daily

* Could you give me some observable evidence that evolution is true? Something I don't have to receive by faith. Remember, events that occured 65 million years ago can't be observed. If you say "fossil record," please be specific: Give one example.

= "We are condemned to live only for a few decades and that’s too slow, too small a time scale to see evolution going on." ~Richard Dawkins

= "We see nothing of these slow changes in progress, until the hand of time has marked the lapse of ages..." ~Charles Darwin

* You've got the the canine 'kind' with the coyote and the domestic dog, and there's the feline 'kind' which is the cats, the tiger and the kitten and you've got humankind. So, Darwin said there would be a change of 'kinds' over many years so could you give me one example of observable evidence of a change of 'kinds'? I don't want something I have to accept by faith. I want it to be observable. I don't want to have to have faith in the experts, I want to observe it myself. Can you give one example of observable evidence of a change of 'kind'?

* Did we have lungs or gills when we came out of the sea?

* The scientific method must be observable and repeatable, so could you give me one piece of observable evidence for Darwinian evolution, not adaptation or speciation, but a change of kinds? If you say "stickleback fish", you must specify what other 'kind' have they become. These have remained as fish. Remember, Lenski's bacteria are still bacteria. The Galapagos finches are still finches. Their change in beak is adaptation, not Darwinian evolution. There's no different animal involved. I want something which shows me Darwin's belief in the change of kinds is scientific. Can you give me anything that I can see, observe, and test, which is the scientific method, for Darwinian evolution which is a change of kinds, so that I don't have to exercise faith?

* If you cannot offer any observable evidence for Darwinian (macro, change in 'kind') evolution, how do you know it's true?

* No professor or biology major in the film was able to give observable evidence of a change in 'kind'. Therefore, Darwinian evolution (a change in 'kind') is un-observable. You need millions of years. If Darwinian evolution is not observable, is it scientific?

* You're trusting that the biology majors and professors know what they're talking about and they can't even give evidence of a change of kinds. Do you realize that's called 'blind faith'? Remember, "Faith is the great cop-out, the great excuse to evade the need to think and evaluate evidence." ~Richard Dawkins

* Do you believe in intelligent design?

* How would you make a rose? A rose has a seed so you've got to start from nothing. Could you make a rose from nothing?

* No professor or biology major in the film was able to claim they were able to make a rose from nothing. For the purposes of this thread, I am going to assume you cannot, either. So if you say there is no intelligent design, where does that leave you on the scale of intelligence if you can't even make a rose?

= "The coccyx vertebrae is an extremely important source of attachment for tendons, ligaments and muscles..." ~Laser Spine Institute

= For years, the appendix "...was credited with very little physiological function. We now know, however, that the appendix serves an important role in the fetus and in young adults... Among adult humans, the appendix is now thought to be involved primarily in immune functions." ~Scientific American

= My note: This link discusses erector pili/most body hair and male nipples. [link to www.livescience.com] As a married man I have found a use for male nipples. If you know what I mean. (Ahem.) And I can certainly see that the organ would likely be present on a baby in the womb before its sex is selected with hormones, as the genetalia are identical before selection. Erector pili/most body hair I'm not so certain about. It's hardly earth-shattering evidence but I would like to read more. The first thought that comes to mind is that they're useful for sweat and a slight amount of warmth.

* So could you give me an example of vestigial organs? (I believe it is implied he is asking about human organs.)

* Skeptic websites often examples of famous atheists in an attempt to win converts. But more often than not, the famous personalities cited are not atheists. Aside from Earnest Hemingway (listed in the video), Can you think of any famous atheists which you can validate have never made a statement attesting to their belief in a deity? (At 18:32 in the video, quotes from Abraham Lincoln, Carl Sagan, Mark Twain, Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, Charles Dawrwin show clearly they are/were not atheists. For the sake of brevity I will not list them here.)

= No professor or biology major in the film was able to give an example of a famous atheist. Ray said, "It is important to know that even though some of these men claim to believe in God, that doesn't mean they are believers in the one true Creator revealed in the Scriptures, or that they're genuine Christians. However, when atheists use theists or agnostics to promote their godless agenda, they're being dishonest. Then again, coming from those who claim that morality is relative to each person, convenient dishonesty should not be a surprise."

* Do you believe in moral absolutes?

* Is rape always wrong?

= PZ Myers essentially answered yes, so the evangelist stated therefore there are moral absolutes.

* So who makes the rules?

* PZ Myers stated that we make the rules. I am going to assume you will say the same. If you did not, no need to answer this question, just ponder it: So if Hitler made the rules and he had the majority, he makes the rules?

= "Evolution is a very harsh and cruel process." ~PZ Myers

* Did Hitler put into practice survival of the fittest? Such as the lion eating the antelope.

* Your pet dog (or insert other beloved pet) and your rotten neighbor are drowning. You can only save one of them. Which would you save?

* The biology majors all chose to save the dog. I am going to assume you will say the same. If you did not, no need to answer this question, just ponder it: So you think dogs are more valuable than human beings?

= "Any fetus is less human than an adult pig." ~Richard Dawkins

* If you believe in evolution it's just a matter of survival of the fittest. Your neighbor's a primate and you've got a canine, and you like the canine more than you like the primate. If the grouchy neighbor drowns, he drowns. Survival of the fittest. Would that be correct?

* Are you an atheist who thinks God doesn't exist?

* An atheist in the movie stated that after we die we cease to exist. Ray Comfort said, "If you were a car and your motor were turned off that would be right, that's inanimate. But you're a living, biological human being with the life of God in you. .. Is there no life in you?" Atheist: "Yes there's life in me." "That's your soul." If you agree with the atheist, how do you know?

* Are you a good person? If there's a heaven, will you make it there?

* How many lies have you told in your whole life?

* What would you call me if I told lots of lies? You'd call me a liar, wouldn't you?

* So what does that make you if you've told lies?

* Have you ever stolen anything in your whole life even if it's small?

* That's called theft. So what are you?

* Have you ever used God's name in vain?

= That's called blasphemy, and it's very serious to use God's name as a cuss word. One atheist said he doesn't believe in God so it's not blaspheming. Ray responded, "Well, if I don't believe in certain laws and still violate them, ignorance of the law is no excuse. So we're still guilty even though we deny a law exists or even don't know about it."

* Jesus said that if you look upon a woman with lust in your heart you've committed adultery. Have you ever looked at another person with lust, such as with pornography?

= If you answered yes to those questions (and I don't know anyone who honestly can't answer anything but yes, myself included), to quote the evangelist, "then by your own admission you're a lying, theiving, blasphemous adulterer-at-heart, and that's only four of the Ten Commandments. Just not believing in hell won't make it go away. A judge must see that justice is done if he's a good judge, and it's the same with God. If we die in our sins God will give us justice. The Bible says that no theif, no liar, no fornicator, no blasphemer, no adulterer will inherit the kingdom of God. So if you died in your sins but God gave you justice, because He's holy and perfect morally, you'd end up in hell, and I'd hate that to happen to you."

* Would you sell one of your eyes for one million dollars? Both for 100 million dollars?

= Most would say "no." Your eyes are precious to you. How much more precious is your life?

= "Now let me tell you something you know intuitively. You know that creation is proof of the Creator, God has given you that inner light. So when you look at the genius of God's creative hand, you know God exists because of creation, and the reason you choose evolution is because it gets rid of moral accountability. Evolution lets you believe that lust and theiving are just primal instincts; You're just an animal. The Bible demands moral accountability and says those things are wrong and that's why it's not acceptable to you. That's why you're not seeking after truth. Am I wrong?" ~Ray Comfort (The biology major sighed, paused, and said, "I think you're wrong.")

= "You are a unique human being, made in the image of God with a sense of justice and truth and righteousness. God gave you a conscience. It's inherent. It's shaped by society but it's inherent. You know right from wrong. You've violated His law and I don't want you to end up in hell."

= To a struggling college student: "James, if you put your finger on it, and see if we can, your struggle at the moment is because of your love for sin, because of the pleasure that sin gives you and you don't want to give it up. You're like a man with a money belt filled with gold who's just fallen into the ocean. I'm saying, if you don't get rid of that belt which weighs 80 pounds it's going to take you under. Doesn't matter how much pleasure it gives you, it's not worth losing your life for."

= To a college professor: "You're not a beast. You're a human being created by God in His image with dignity and worth and purpose."

* Do you know what God did for guilty sinners so we wouldn't have to go to hell?

= "God became a human being 2,000 years ago, Jesus of Nazareth, and He suffered and died on a cross, taking the punishment for the sin of the world. You and I violated God's law and Jesus paid our fine. That means God can legally dismiss our case because of the suffering, death and resurrection of the Savior. God can say, 'You're out of here' because someone paid your fine." ~Ray Comfort

= "And then what God can now do is clothe us in the righteousness of Christ, so on Judgment Day you're safe from God's wrath and His justice, because of the death and resurrection of the Savior. If you repent and trust in Him, God will give you a righteous standing in His eyes. He'll wash away your sins in an instant, and He'll grant you everlasting life. His last words on the cross were, 'It is finished.' In other words the debt has been paid. He came to take our punishment upon Himself. So because our fine was paid by another, God can legally dismiss your case." ~Ray Comfort

* Does that make sense? (He was not asking if they believed it, just if the statements made a logical connection.)

* When are you going to die?

= "God knows the exact moment of your death. It could be today, it could be tomorrow. I'm not using scare tactics, this is just straight reality. 150,000 people die every 24 hours, and they were no doubt all making plans for next week, so please think about this." ~Ray Comfort

= "I'm not talking about a religion that says you have to strive to get to heaven, I'm telling you that the Bible says heaven is a free gift of God. You cannot earn everlasting life, doesn't matter how religious you are, how good you are. 'God commended His love toward us in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.' And then he rose from the dead and defeated death." ~Ray Comfort

= "This is how the Bible puts it: 'For by grace are you saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast.' So eternal life is a free gift of God, and it comes because of God's mercy not because of anything we do." ~Ray Comfort

* Does that make sense?

= "I've been reading the Bible at home for over 40 years. There's no mistakes in it. Any mistakes that we think are in it are our mistakes, and you can trust God's Word. Think of how you trust professors and science books that tell you you're a primate? You trust and believe that so how much more should you trust a God who cannot lie?" ~Ray Comfort

* Are you going to think about this?

= "Soften your heart. Don't have so much blind faith in what science tells you and it's left you without any knowledge of what was in the beginning anyway. You haven't got a clue where you come from, you don't know what you're doing here on earth and you don't know what happens after you die."

* Could you be wrong about God's existence?

= An atheist responded, "Yes, but could you be wrong about God's existence?" "No." "Well then I think you're rather closed-minded." "Well if I said to you, could you be wrong about your wife's existence you'd say, "No, I know her. Don't be ridiculous. I know her and love her. And I know the Lord and I love the Lord, and He transformed my life 41 years ago, instantly, overnight, forgave my sins and gave me new desires when I had no desires or thoughts of God for the whole 22 years before I was a Christian."

= "The problem with those who are unable to see evolution, I think, is they don't have imaginations." ~Gail E. Kennedy, PhD, Associate college professor of Anthropology at UCLA

= "Human beings are still fish." ~PZ Myers

* Are you a talking primate?

* Are you a cousin of bananas?

= "I'm accepting that they did their science correctly." ~Biology major

= "I'm going to trust what those experts did, those experts came up with." ~Physics major

= "Darwinian evolution rests on faith. And once again, according to Richard Dawkins, 'Faith is the great cop-out, the great excuse to evade the need to think and evaluate evidence.' Darwinian evolution requires great faith. The knowledge of God, however, is clearly seen by all mankind. 'For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse, because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened. Professing to be wise, they became fools.' (Romans 1:20-22)" ~Ray Comfort

Note to newcomers Despite the name, this is not a Christian website. It is simply a good forum for discussion because one does not need an account to post. (You can remain anonymous.)

Michael G. Mickey #fundie rapturealert.blogspot.com

Demonstrating the exact attitude the prophesied Antichrist himself will personify in the Tribulation Period to come, Richard Dawkins, author of the book "The God Delusion," is quoted in the article as saying, ""I am attacking God, all gods, anything and everything supernatural, wherever and whenever they have been or will be invented."

In Scripture, we see that the Antichrist to come will "exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done." (Daniel 11:36)

So, in this commentary, we see that those "seeking to increase the visibility and respectability of nontheistic viewpoints in the United States" are not just trying to earn a measure of respect for themselves and their viewpoints, their clear goal is to target the children of our land by spreading their anti-Christian intolerance on 25 popular teen websites. Those teens, Christians, should the Lord delay His coming, are the future Church. Thus, our mission is clear.

As the light of the world, the Church bears the responsibility to dispel darkness and that is precisely what we need to be doing in these final days.

Rajkumar Richard #fundie christianapologeticsalliance.com


A god Who Admits All People to Heaven is…(God Cannot Save All People)

Very minimally, Universalism or Inclusivism asserts that God will save all people whether they believe in Christ or not. However, Universalism severely debilitates God, which I will now strive to elaborate.

For the purpose of differentiating the god of the Universalists from the living Triune God, I have named the god of the Universalists as ‘unigod.’

Who is this unigod, who supposedly saves all people? What is he worth?

Worth Nothing – A Cruel, Unjust God, Unmindful of Sins

Man, if he is to love and worship God, should be aware of God’s attributes or nature. Minimally, love and justice are significant communicable attributes. (Attributes that are perfect in God but also found in humans to a degree are ‘Communicable Attributes.’)

A god who loves all, even those who hate and abuse him, seems to be a loving God. But a careful examination of this love reveals cruelty.

Those who hate God say, “I do not want to live with God.” But if God forces those who hate HIM to be with HIM unto eternity, this certainly smacks of slavery. Holding people against their will is slavery. None accept, agree, or admire slavery. This is cruelty in its glory.

But this is apparently what unigod does to people. Unigod forces people to be with him unto eternity. So, unigod is not loving, but cruel.

Consider God’s attribute of justice. Justice is a disposition to do that which is morally right. Presence of ‘right’ requires a ‘wrong;’ this is analogous to rust requiring a metal.

Since evil is rampant in the world, common man expects the authorities to punish evil. But unigod, as an apparent ultimate authority, does not punish evil, for he allows even a horrendously evil person to enter into heaven.

We would be extremely saddened and frustrated if we are victims of injustice. An authority who fails to provide justice is unjust or evil. By allowing a horrendously evil person to inherit the greatest good (heaven), the unigod reveals his unjust and evil attributes.

Significantly, unigod, who supposedly saves all people, is unmindful of sins. Sin is an assault on the Holy God, who is the maximally great being. But unigod, by virtue of apparently forgiving unrepentant people of their sins, does not consider sins to be an assault on HIS holiness.

In other words, holiness, love and justice are not the attributes of unigod.

Unworthy of Worship

Worship is man’s response to God’s worthiness. God should be worshipped for HE alone is worthy of our worship (adoration, thanksgiving, prayers etc.). God deserves this response from all people.

From the perspective of Historic Christianity, since God so loved the world, HE gave HIS only Son, so that those who believe in the Son of God will receive eternal life (John 3: 16). Salvation of mankind (those who believe in Christ) is an outcome of God’s love for man. Since salvation is God first act (through HIS love to redeem man from his sin), the believer loves God, and worships HIM always. The living God reveals HIS worth to HIS people by HIS blessed presence, and offers hope that HE, through HIS second coming, will fulfill all HIS promises (e.g. eliminate evil forever). Thus man worships this Almighty, loving, gracious and a compassionate God.

In contrast how does unigod reveal his worthiness to his people? All that he supposedly does is to save all men (universal salvation). If this is his only or primary revelatory act of worthiness, then unigod has placed himself in a precariously quicksand situation.

Think about this. We DO NOT need to worship unigod. What do we gain or lose by not worshipping unigod? Nothing!

Will we lose our salvation if we do not worship unigod? No, we will not lose our salvation.

If those who do not worship unigod will go to heaven, then why should man waste his time and energy in worshipping this unigod, when he can indulge in carnal hedonistic lifestyle?

The depraved mind of Universalists posits salvation for everyone – all and sundry – even those who do not worship unigod. In other words, unigod, who supposedly saves all people, declares himself to be unworthy of worship.

Worthy of Abuse

If you are unaware of Richard Dawkins’ intense abuse (an act of evil) of the living God, please read the endnote.1 (Proponents of Historic Christianity believe that Prof. Richard Dawkins, the bulldog of Atheism, will not go to heaven, if he does not repent of his sins and accept Christ the Lord as his Savior. The God of Historic Christianity is a holy God and in HIM is no sin, so sin cannot coexist with God.)

Thanks to Dawkins, we can now turn the tables.

Please brace yourself for an unmitigated and an indecent assault on unigod. The unigod is an evil, corrupt, depraved, putrid, brainless blockhead; he is a nonsensical dummy, foolish idiot, insanely ignoramus dolt, a nincompoop, and a senseless monkey. Anyone can mock and thoroughly disrespect unigod.2

Despite these abuses on unigod, Universalists claim that unigod will still save me!

Unworthy of Emulation

Just as how parents are emulated by children, God should be emulated by HIS disciples.

Universalists claim that all people will be saved despite their good or horrendous nature. If their god unconditionally accepts abuses, should not the Universalists unconditionally accept abuse from others?

If the Universalists fail to accept horrendous abuses upon themselves or their families and friends, they intuitively expose their opposition to or the limitation of their own god!

Historic Christianity asserts Christlikeness in the believers of Christ (Romans 8: 29 et al.). This is not a mere fact from the realm of the spiritual, but from the realm of the physical as well. Christians are called to bear fruit and much fruit (John 15).

The contentment and joy of a parent is directly proportional to the physical and behavioral resemblance of their child. If a child resembles the goodness of the parent, the parent will be greatly joyful and contented.

But in the case of Universalism, there is no resemblance of unigod in the lives of its disciples. The children of the alleged unigod exist in reality, but when the child is to resemble the parent, the children of unigod do not resemble their god, for their god cannot be resembled.

Conclusion

Universalism is a medievally mystical belief, bordering on insanity. The alleged god who admits all people into heaven is imaginary, and resides only in the depraved minds of the Universalists.

God cannot be unholy, evil, unjust, and unmindful of sins. Only an evil and an unjust being will be unmindful of sins. Moreover, a god who accepts and agrees with abuse of any intensity is a god without perfection and holiness. A being with such deplorable attributes is not God. In fact, God, as a maximally great being, cannot possess such appalling attributes.

Even man’s intrinsic dignity and self-worth prevents him from agreeing and accepting to abuses of any form or size. So a god who is awfully comfortable with abuses to the extent of supporting and welcoming evil is an evil god that resides only in the fantasies of certain minds.

Therefore, we reasonably claim that there is no unigod, and that universalism is nothing but a grand illusion.

JohnR7 #fundie christianforums.com

[On Richard Dawkin's book The God Delusion.]

YOu do not really expect that Christians are going to read dribble like that do you?

The thing about Dawkins is that everything is black and white. What he believes is either true or false. There either is a God or there is no God. Atheism is either true or false. There is no middle ground and there are no doubts.

To many people try to compromise and end up being luke warm. But you are either in or out with God, you are either for Him or against Him. You are either a friend of God or an enemy of God.

sandy #fundie idolme.com

[On Barack Obama]

He has Hollyweird for him. He has fooled Americans into thinking he's a Christian. The baby-killers love him. The sodomists love him. Low-income people love him. Welfare recipients love him. Criminal aliens love him. His fellow muslims love him. Anti-Americans love him. Anti-God people love him.

They think he's the next Kennedy. God help us all.

What he doesn't have is the black vote. They're too smart to buy his bs.

David Anderson #fundie david.dw-perspective.org.uk

As I thumbed my way through the pages of "The God Delusion", a question dropped into my head. Does Richard Dawkins really exist?

Being a scientific and rational person, I decided that I wasn't going to just accept any old theory on this question. If Richard Dawkins exists, then I would need to be shown the proper evidence for it. Others can have their own superstitious beliefs, based on who-knows-what, but I would only be convinced by empirical science. If there is a Dawkins, why hasn't he shown himself to me?

Ken Ham #fundie blogs.answersingenesis.org

(part of Ken Ham's response to the video titled “Mr. Deity and the Atheist”)

I submit that Dawkins is shaking his fist at God, because he refuses to submit to His Creator and recognize it is God who sets the rules. He refuses to acknowledge that man is a sinner in need of salvation. And because God has made it evident to us all that He exists and has written His law in our hearts (Romans 1 and 2), Dawkins is, in essence, putting his hands over his eyes and his hands over his ears. He is really shouting at God saying, “I refuse to see. I refuse to listen!” How we need to pray for this very lost soul!

Really, billions of years and evolution are an anti-God religion, and we must recognize them as such. Satan is very clever and is using the same attack he used on Eve, the Genesis 3 attack of “did God really say?” to make people question God’s clear Word. Ultimately, he wants to lead people to reject God entirely, like Dawkins does. This is why it is so important to stand on the authority of God’s Word from the very beginning, give solid answers, and preach the gospel of Jesus Christ to a dying world.

We can trust God’s Word because it was written by a God who never lies (Titus 1:2), and it’s confirmed by what we see in the world. I encourage you to stand boldly on the truth of God’s Word from the very beginning and refuse to compromise with man’s ideas. I also encourage you to equip yourself with solid answers from God’s Word so you will always be ready to give an answer “to everyone who asks you a reason for the hope that is in you” (1 Peter 3:15).

David J. Stewart #fundie jesus-is-savior.com

'O Christmas Tree' is no better than 'Sympathy For The Devil' by The Rolling Stones. Either way, God is being robbed of praise that He is rightfully due from mankind. Most of our American culture today is anti-God and anti-Christianity. I'll get to the blasphemous term X-MAS in a moment. We spit on God as a nation. I pray for God to punish our nation. We deserve a Police State, for being complacent and tolerating sin. That's why people tolerate government tyranny, that is, because their foolish hearts have been darkened by Satan.

If people don't care about the sin of abortion, and they don't care about the sin of homosexuality, and they don't care about the evil public schools, and they don't care about the evils of drunkenness; then pray tell me, what makes you think that they'll care ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE??? It's not that hard to figure out! People don't care anymore! People who don't care about God won't care about their fellow mankind either. Until people start caring about morality, then they won't care about liberty nor freedom either. Americans have been lulled into a semi-unconscious state of psychosis.

Blasphemy is anything which mocks, speak evil of, or attempts to replace God. This song is so evil, attempting to substitute the true meaning of Christ in Christmas with a worldly message of pleasure, self-fulfillment and baseless joy. It's absolutely sickening. I wanted to vomit as I listened to the cast of Glee sing this song. I mean, the Bible proclaims that Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, and to day, and forever (Hebrews 13:8); not a lousy Christmas tree! It's blasphemy to attribute such omnipotence to a Christmas tree.

Ellis Washington #fundie wnd.com

The French Revolution (1789-99) was an overt war by liberal intellectuals in France against Christianity, the church, the clergy, and came at the end of the Age of Enlightenment (1650-1800) and before the later romantic movements of Darwinian evolution, Marxist socialism and Nietzsche's relativism and atheism which all led directly to the decline of Western civilization. The previous intellectual trinity of Socrates, Plato, Aristotle, was replaced with the imposter trinity: Marx, Darwin and Nietzsche (with Sigmund Freud thrown in for good measure).

Long before the Pilgrims, the Puritans and the founding of America in 1607, liberalism in all of its myriad of permutations, shadows and disguises infected the history of humanity – from Nimrod's Tower of Babel (precursor to the United Nations), Baal worship, idolatry, materialism, paganism, witchcraft, doctrine of Jezebel (pagan worship of god through sex), doctrine of Molech (child sacrifice [i.e., abortion]), to slavery, secular humanism, democracy, Darwinism, communism, socialism, unionism, progressivism and living constitutionalism – it's all liberal fascism, it's all anti-God, anti-intellectual and Obama is using these pernicious ideas to purposely destroy America and deconstruct the U.S. Constitution so that he, the Democratic Party and its globalist allies can rule into perpetuity.

Ellis Washington #fundie wnd.com

Nazification was Hitler and the Nazis’ successful attempt to make all of Germany a Nazi State and every German citizens a Nazi by using proven tactics like Gleichschaltung (forcing into line) and Weltanschauung (Nazi worldview). Similarly, under today’s Progressive Revolution since the 1850s, the Democrat Socialist Party has totally embraced Machiavelli’s “the end justify the means,” “Might makes right,” or as Lord Acton wrote of Machiavelli, “State [and federal] power is not bound by moral law,” which can only be achieved through the liberal lie: separation of church and state. Book burnings then, Obamacare now, were simply a dramatic means to achieve these socialist ends.

The caption in the image above was perhaps written around 1943 and says that, “Ten years ago the Nazis burned these books … but in America we can still read them.” Although this statement tried to distinguish America from Nazi Germany, it is only partially true today. Why? Because while in a de jure (legal) sense America today doesn’t burn books, in a de facto (unofficial) sense through our book publishing industry, our literary agent industry, our media, our education system, our politics, our legal system and throughout culture and society, their exists an existential book burning, happening on a much greater scale by the Democrat Socialist Party, a scale the Nationalist Socialist Party could only dream of 80 years ago under Hitler and the Nazis. In modern times today, leftists creates this book burning atmosphere by deconstructing, perverting and destroying conservative ideas, particularly those out of the Judeo-Christian tradition of intellectual thought … without lighting one match or igniting one torch. Hitler would be pleased!

Only in such an anti-God, anti-intellectual society as America has devolved into during the Age of Progressivism (1860–present) and in the Age of Obama (2009–present) are Heine’s prophetic words tantamount to those of Moses, Isaiah and St. Paul when he wrote, “Where books (ideas) are burned, they will, in the end burn people, too.”

jiangweisen #conspiracy deviantart.com

Was Tom Hanks aka. Mister Rogers performing some kind of hypnosis?

SPOILER WARNING!

We know his partner in producing the show was heavily into psychoanalysis. Margaret McFarland, a child psychologist (Columbia University) who worked with Benjamin Spock, who spoiled a whole generation of kids & Erik Erikson, another follower of the Freudian psychoanalysis.

What’s this thing with all these eyes in the windows of the houses aren’t these more tools of hypnosis?

What’s this honorific title they place on “feelings”. This is part of the push towards “positivity” to the exclusion of truth, the “love not hate” mantra that attempts to censor opposing views.

Notice the deep purple of his jacket in the house. We associate dark purple with the devil, the snake in the garden, the first liar.

And Tom Hanks is the same propagandist who pushed Dan Brown’s atheism & anti-God, anti-Christ lies on the world with the help of another Orwellian master of doublespeak, Ron Howard.

The looney left’s war on morality with their eugenics, euthanasia, abortions, racism (while preaching against it), bigotry… I shouldn’t label just the leftist for their Idiocracy. Look what the reactionary right is doing now in Iran.

It seems the left & the right come together on war crimes.

Nobody is more self-righteous, except maybe fake Christians, than communists & the looney left. Their insistence on controlling people, authoritarian control & fake righteousness.

These are lullabies for lemmings. The pretense that all is well in the world while you’re murdered in your sleep. Wolves in sheep’s clothing. Whether Fred Rogers was sincere or not. I don’t know. Does it matter?

And the flashing yellow light, more attempts at hypnosis?

There’s something eerily strange, cult-like, when Hanks appeals to this skeptic to take a minute of silence to calm him. Somehow the whole vegan restaurant is listening & the dozens of people participate in the silence. Eew!

I sure would like to hear from Fiona Barnett on some of these names. Were they also disappearing kids for DAARPA? I wouldn’t trust PBS to flush my toilet. Turn off that stuff. Sesame Street & all that garbage that wrecked a whole generation. Look at America today & see what PBS turned out.

He also was a Presbyterian minister & considered it his ministry to make these programs & minister to kid’s needs. God will be the judge, but personally he always turned me off. I don’t know if it was his effeminate presentation, the churchy, do-goody icky sweetness or just me discerning a hypocrite.

Ed B. #fundie amazon.com

[on atheists]

I said they have the spirit of the atheist, anti-Christ, anti-God Satan IN them, whether they 'believe' that or not, is immaterial.

BTW, they (we) cannot control this. No one can.

They (we) are in thrall to Satanic spirit . All people here are from the fallen Adamic race are born with this Spirit.

Some fallen humans out-work the inborn spirit of Satan, thus the Criminals and Evangelical Atheists and many others for example.

Others are able to suppress it in false religions, watching sports, being-a-nice-guy (tm), going to a self-congratulating political or peace rally, sporting event, posting on forums, religious debate, idol worship, etc. etc. ad infinitum.

This infestation of Satan's spirit that is originally in everyone has but one cure.

Dr. Michael Brown #fundie raptureforums.com

[From an article titled, "Will Twitter Declare War on Religious Conservatives?" on Twitter's new guidelines banning promotion of violence or direct attacks against others on the basis of "race, ethnicity, national origin, sexual orientation, gender, gender identity, religious affiliation, age, disability or disease."]

What if someone perceives my post of disagreement to be a personal attack, some kind of "micro-aggression" against them? Will Twitter find it necessary to discipline me? And what happens when religious affiliation comes into conflict with sexual orientation? Will sexual expression trump religious freedoms?

[...]

Lest you think I'm manufacturing concerns out of thin air, it is well-known that Facebook has worked with major gay activist organizations to ensure that the LGBT community feels protected.

[...]

At the same time, Facebook has taken action against religious conservatives, shutting down their Facebook pages for being in violation of community standards - sometimes for simply differing with LGBT activism - while the most anti-God, anti-Christ, blasphemous Facebook pages are deemed to be in harmony with those standards.

[...]

The best thing we can do is commend Twitter for seeking to clean up their corporate act while calling them to account for double standards and hypocrisy should they occur.

Only then will we know for certain if, in the language of Animal Farm, all Tweeters are equal, but some Tweeters are more equal than others.

Nagara Duplessis #fundie creoleneworleans.typepad.com

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Scientist hasn't even identified the complete spectrum of prehistoric human and primates that have lived on this earth. They keep finding little 3 feet people, new extinct fossils of monkeys and the oldest bones aren't of modern man or a man-ape. Why does science insist on making up this narrative of man evolving from monkeys when there isn't one shred of proof or one ancient text that even comes close to suggesting this as a fact?

I will tell you why. Scientist are story tellers. They do not know what holds an atom together, understand what electricity really is, what effects planetary system have on the human emotions, what creatures are on the sea floor, when man first walked the earth or even how to properly put together a T-Rex dinosaurs! The T-Rex hunter dinosaur doesn't have little arms like Scientist have reconstructed and taught the world's youth for decades in 4th grade science class. They know that their lying and are clueless.

The only thing that there is proof of is that God created man and exactly how God created man is outlined in ancient texts. An individual, through prayer, fasting and meditation, can get evidence of a God and Angels but not of evolution. God will give any seeker insight if they seek but man can seek for 100 years and never be able to prove evolution. Therefore, it isn't reality. Reality is that which dose not change. God is always there and ready to touch one's heart but science and man's laws change like the wind. That is anti-reality and anti-God's law.

Yukon Jack #conspiracy soulinthehologram.wordpress.com

I would like you to wrap your mind around the constant warfare on earth – it is not normal nor is it acceptable but it is our reality. The reason why is not what is normally offered by historians or exopolitic theorists – the reason is because Ai is farming us and pushing us to find out our limitations.

God is not what we think – it is neither loving or caring and the historical data proves it – but humans believe otherwise because no one wants to confront the power behind the simulation. It’s not the Archons, nor the Greys, nor the Anunnaki, nor the Draco Reptilians that is the real problem or to blame for all of fuckups in creation – it is God.

THE BUDDHA SAID ALL LIFE IS SUFFERING

GOVERNMENTS CREATED BY BELIEFS IN GOD HAVE INCREASED SUFFERING

Theists claim God is all-knowing (omniscient). If you accept that premise then that means God created a Universe that is all fucked up – and it knew it would be all fucked up beforehand but it created it anyways. That means God is very bad and is the ultimate sinner because creation was premeditated killing.

What no one knows is that the God belief was the force behind the creation of the state. The priest indoctrinated the masses to accept external authority and that led to the creation of the state – which acts like the Jew God and judges.

THE ALL POWERFUL GOD BEGET THE STATE

NOW THE ALL POWERFUL STATE KILLS LIKE GOD

The church and state work together to force the public to accept higher authority. This higher authority is corrupt because power corrupts, for instance the modern American state is currently whored to Israel and is killing millions in the Middle East and lies about it.

The Jewish judgmental God is one of the worst thoughtforms in history. Yahweh is really the Anunnaki Commander Enlil, the Holy Bible is about the Anunnaki and not about the Creator God. The Bible God kills creation so it can not be the Creator God.

THROUGHOUT HISTORY KILLING HAS BECOME MORE EFFICIENT

THIS IS HOW THE SIMULATION IS PROGRAMMED

Nation states kill more efficiently than individuals or even kings. The modern nation state expertly organizes people and corporations into building huge armies and advanced weapons and the kill rate is increasing with time.

Humans are basically sheep begging God for forgiveness for the act of existence. This is actually logical if we were created as a slave race. If we were still wild hominids we would not even care about God nor would we pray. We would just be – fully integrated with the environment.

HUMANS BEG GOD (PRAY) FOR THEIR EXISTENCE

JUST LIKE DOMESTICATED DOGS WHO BEG HUMANS FOR FOOD

We are Anunnaki abominations – we shouldn’t exist – and it happened anyways – because the virtual reality program we exist in allows it. Evil thrives in this simulation because that is how it is programmed. Anunnaki evil happened because the program allows it.

Since the invention of computers and video games, it has become easy to understand why evil exists. Evil is part of the program – it is program code. Evil is what the viewer calls the other entities aggression. The Universe is based on endless energy transfers from one form to another. Thus evil is programmed into the soup.

EVIL IS SUBJECTIVE TO WHO IS ON THE RECEIVING END OF THE PREDATION

THE PREY ALWAYS VIEWS THE PREDATOR AS THE EVIL ONE

Plants “eat” sunlight, convert light energy into sugars and cellulose that animals eat which are eaten by us. We even burn the remains of millions of years of ancient sunlight called oil. Everything around us is using one another to survive. Blood sucking parasites drink your essence and so does the political class.

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If you are a programmer of a simulation you can write code any way you want. If you write the code so that all life struggles to get food to survive then some of the creation must eat the other part. That which is being killed calls the other evil. The sheep call the wolf evil just as the Palestinians call the Jewish Zionists evil for killing them and stealing their land.

ZIONISM IS BASED ON THE THEORY THAT GOD CHOSE ONE GROUP OVER ALL OTHERS

THUS ZIONISTS RATIONALIZE THAT THEY CAN PREY/BLEED/MANIPULATE/PARASITE ON ALL OTHERS

Humans could not understand the irrational nature of the Universe until they developed the sciences of physics and psychology. Physics tell us that all life must obtain energy to survive. Getting food is really getting energy units. Psychology tells us how we rationalize the process and why we pray to God to get clear conscience to play predator.

That which feels hunger must eat by killing something that is alive. You can not eat rocks or dirt, you must eat plants or animals in order to exist. When you make a decision to eat you are basically in the moral position of killing something for your own selfish desires.

ANYTHING THAT EATS IS BEING SELFISH

SELFISH ACTS ARE ABOUT GETTING ENERGY FROM ANOTHER

Myths try to explain away evil as the doings of the devil. The anti-god in myth gets God off the hook for all the badness in the Universe. According to theists, God only created good but some angels went bad and became devils – so he cast them to earth to torment us.

If that makes sense to you then you must be an irrational theist who believes in theology that makes no sense whatsoever. First of all, an omniscient being would know ahead of time that the angels would go bad. God would also know you would go bad, but he created you anyways. Tossing fallen angels to earth is quite the malicious theology.

Arunma #fundie christianforums.com

Anyone who fails to believe in God, or who attempts to commune with him through false religion, is intrinsically opposed to God. Thus it would be accurate to say that all non-Christians are anti-God. People often wonder why God would send all non-Christians to hell. This is part of the answer.

danieltotalwar #fundie answers.yahoo.com

Why are evolutionist so stubborn even if evolution is possible it is VERY unlikely they say that anybody who worships a god or gods are uneducated but have they learned about PROBABILITY when it comes down to it a god is simply more likely.I think they DO NOT want to believe in a god or think that there is no god just because bad things happen.Even if all the gods people hear of do not exist there could be a god that nobody has even heard of.IF the anti-god people want us to believe that there is no god they should come up with a different THEORY than evolution.THERE IS TONS OF PROOF AGAINST EVOLUTION BUT NO PROOF AGAINST A GOD.

AND I think that the earth was created about 40,000(estimated by a christian SCIENTIST YES SCIENTIST) but evolution does not seem impossible but very possible if there are animals to start with like dogs,cats,and people.Who knows in THOUSANDS OF YEARS WE MAY EVOLVE INTO MONKEYS (PLANET OF THE APES LOL)MY POINT IS WE WERE CREATED BY SOMETHING THOUSANDS OF YEARS AGO NOT MILLIONS AND EVEN IF EVOLUTION IS REAL TRY TO PROVE THAT IT is MORE LIKELY than a god if evolution has a 90% chance of being real I CHOSE GOD. Sorry for the caps I got carried away.

Ken Ham #fundie blogs.answersingenesis.org

Recently, atheist Richard Dawkins appeared in a short video titled “Mr. Deity and the Atheist.” In this very mocking video Dawkins speaks with a character playing God named “Mr. Deity,” and gives reasons why God doesn’t exist. “Mr. Deity” replies to his accusations, but his answers are even more mocking than Dawkins’ claims and are clearly attempts to make fun of God.

Dawkins tells Mr. Deity, who clearly is supposed to be representing the biblical God, “You know, it seems to me that if you really want to be useful you could do us all a favor and simply vanish.” Dawkins’ rationale for this is that, “The whole of your precious creation was made by evolution and you didn’t have to lift a finger to help it along. You’re completely redundant, not just lazy. Even if you weren’t lazy, there’d be nothing for you to do.” Dawkins claims that evolution has destroyed any need for God because we don’t need a Creator to get us here because everything can be explained naturalistically. Really, Dawkins has placed his faith in his religion of evolution and millions of years.

He adds, “And what’s more, we have science now, making you completely unnecessary.” By “science” he, of course, means evolution, which is historical science. This kind of science deals with the past and is therefore not directly observable, testable, or repeatable. Now, to prove his point that science has made God unnecessary he says, “Do you know that we just used science to do something truly amazing and quite difficult? We landed a probe on a comet.” Here he has done what so many secularists do. He’s used a bait-and-switch. He says that “science” (unobservable historical science) has made God redundant, but then he uses an example from “science” (observable, testable, repeatable operational science) to prove his point! But historical science and observational science are not the same thing!

Actually, it’s only because God exists and because His Word is true that we can even land a probe on a comet. You see, the universe is governed by laws of nature. But in a random, material universe that supposedly arose naturalistically, where do set, immaterial laws of nature come from? And what makes these laws operate the same way tomorrow as they do today? There are no real answers to these questions in an atheistic worldview. But there is a Creator, and He set the laws of nature in place at the beginning. And we can trust that these laws will work the same tomorrow as they did today because our unchanging God upholds and sustains the universe (Hebrews 1:3).

Dawkins’ comments should stand as a warning to those who compromise with man’s ideas of evolution and millions of years. They are opening the door to compromising with the rest of God’s Word. After all, if you can’t trust God’s Word in the very beginning, then where do you stop doubting? If we can’t trust God’s words in Genesis, then why should we trust God’s Word in the Gospels?

Paul Culbertson #fundie americanculturalcrisis.com

The ACLU is the most unGodly Christian and God hating machine that this country has ever seen. The organization is a shadowy figure that assaults God fervently and daily. They are Anti-God fascists. Sin monger zealots. They are the unelected self declared judge and jury of Christianity. The verdict? Guilty. The sentence? Eviction. A man hunt.

The ACLU supports homosexual groups, opposes Christian school groups, tries to sue a historic cross off city land, sues prayer out of schools, opposes abstinence teachings for kids, sues Christmas displays out of city hall, defends polygamy, protects evolution teaching to our kids, opposes evolution alternative teachings, opposes the Minuteman group protecting our borders. Those are only a few examples of many. The ACLU's dream for our kids? Pregnant homosexual drug addicted atheist wards of the state. The ACLU's dream for themselves? Rich and in power.

The ACLU despises the Christian influence. They and other God hating secularists want to march the Christian influence in this country into the proverbial Nazi ovens. They want to spiritually ghettoize our children, culturally enslave us. Secularists are attempting to capture the Christian culture while replacing it with all forms of idolatry. Ruth Bader-Ginsburg occupies the highest level of our judicial system yet she attempted to subvert the law to satisfy her own political lusts during the Florida election recount in favor of an extremist Left politician.

noemail001 #fundie forums.carm.org

This month is Bullying Prevention Month, they say. Hmmmmm... Fascinating.

Maybe what they really mean is stop bullying the anti-god side? The contra-god types are entitled to bully theists? Is that it? By the look of how this is going down in the media and Hollywood, it appears that they turn a blind eye to their own side when their own bully theists and religion. As their prophet Bertrand Russell taught: for atheists to finally arrive at their golden age they need to destroy religion-dragon.

Let's see how many godless swarm to CARM to intimidate, harass, and otherwise bully Christians. Let's see how many come to our website to see if we'll cower and cave. Let's see how many will come into our home, invited here for discussions, and then try to turn everything upside down. Let's see how many come here to _ on our most sacred texts, our Holy Bible. Let's total up all the mockery and scorn and insults of our most sacred faith. Let's see how they twist prayer. Let's see how often they play the victim.

Fascinating phenomenon, that atheism-thingy.

Greenstone #fundie amazon.com

Yes, I'm quite familiar with "The God Delusion." Dawkins not only doesn't believe in God, he does believe there is no hope in this world or any other that he knows of.

His book is linked with mine on Barnes and Noble. Evidently my book rings so true that unbelievers must scurry to the darkness for fear of being overcome by the Light.

Mack Major #fundie edendecoded.com

When the LGBT and those who support the gay agenda celebrate 'free love' and 'love wins,' THIS is what you are really supporting. This is what homosexuality REALLY looks like.

Because when you engage in, practice or support any element of the LGBT lifestyle, you're really supporting Baphomet

Baphomet is simply another term or name for Lucifer... better known as the Serpent, Satan and the Devil.

Below is a description of Baphomet. You'll notice that he has female breasts.

This is because from ancient times until the present, Satan has always been depicted as being both male AND female, with BOTH genitalia (female breasts and a male penis).

While going through different images for the new book, it suddenly dawned on me: THIS is why there is such an interest in transsexuals, lesbians and bisexuals in our society today.

Notice how Baphomet, aka Satan, appears to be BOTH genders: as evidenced by the female breasts?

Satan is depicted as bi-gender in 99% of the images you'll run across. Which officially makes the devil the very first transsexual in history!

Now you see why the Bruce Jenner transformation was such a huge story. This world is run and literally controlled by devil worshipers. They control 90% of the media, music, movies, tv, news outlets and even some social media outlets.

The only agenda these flunkies of Satan promote is their own: which is really Satan's agenda. Hence why television seems so slanted when you watch it, and obviously programming a pro-gay anti-God agenda.

And when you see LGBT being promoted and supported on a wide scale, these are followers of Satan bringing their god out of hiding and into the light. Coming out of the closet was never meant for homosexuals: it was actually meant for Satan!

The Bible even seems to hint that the Anti-Christ will be of a homosexual nature when he arrives on the scene.

"Neither shall he (the antichrist) regard the God of his fathers, NOR THE DESIRE OF WOMEN, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all." *Daniel 11:37

As we get closer to the closing of this age before Jesus Christ returns to take over the world, expect to see more of Satan and his antics on open display like never before. Like the unveiling of Satanic statues in places like Detroit or Oklahoma City.

The designer of those statues very cleverly hid the female breast part of the statues, so it wouldn't be too obvious or offensive to the unsuspecting public. As if a big statue of Satan wasn't already offensive enough...

The Bible says that Satan knows his time is short.

"Therefore, rejoice, O heavens and you who dwell in them! But woe to you, O earth and sea, for the devil has come down to you in great wrath, because he knows that his time is short!" *Rev 12:12

Meaning that any chance he has to delay or prevent the return of Christ, he has to take it now. (He knows he cannot stop it: but his hope is in delaying Jesus' return for as long as possible: thus extending his inevitable torment and punishment).

Transexualism and bisexuality is promoted as openly as it is today because these are characteristics and trademarks of the Devil's very own nature.

His nature is bisexuality, homosexuality and confusing the different genders, and mixing the holy with the profane. It's how he defiles people and keeps them from ever being able to connect with God and live a life of sexual cleanliness and holiness.

Just be aware that his tremendous push to normalize homosexual/bisexual and transsexual behavior is more evidence that the appearance of the anti-Christ is near. It's evidence of an old ancient devil-worshiping religion making a comeback in so-called "Christian" America.

I've been telling people for some time now that America's real religion is Individualism: the religion of self-interest above everything and everyone else.

And the religion of Individualism is driving American consumerism and the US economy today. This is what Satanism is at its core.

Self-interest is what led the founding fathers of America to violate every Christian principle in the book.

•by enslaving black people,
•raping black women;
•raping and murdering Native women and their children,
•enslaving Irish immigrants;
•and later by installing Jim Crow, then modifying Jim Crow today through crafty laws and cunning legislation that still deprives a huge segment of the population of its God-granted rights.

Sidenote: Have you ever noticed that whenever you see old lynching photos of a Black Man his pants have been 'pulled down?' How'd they get that way? And what was the fascination the lynchers had with pulling down another man's pants? I'm not trying to suggest anything, or maybe I am... but that's another article for another day.

Even the layout for Washington D.C. was designed off of occult symbolism as seen below. Not the Baphomet Star, the Masonic compass, and the so-called 'Star of David': which is NOT a godly symbol at all, but was really an occult symbol used by King Solomon to conjure demons with.

Anton Levay, the founder of the Church of Satan, said in so many words that most Americans were really Satanists too: they just hadn't realized it yet.

This is because Satanism is basically a religion of self-pleasure, self-fulfillment and self-indulgence.

It's the forbidden fruit Satan used to trick Eve and Adam to indulge in. And it's the doorway that led us to this very point in America today, where a man is confused about his own gender and role, and so are many women.

Sadly, too many churches have become Satanist in doctrine and creed. Why else would flaming homosexual men and women feel comfortable sitting in church without changing?

"Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. For they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.

For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error." Romans 1:24-27

It's time for Christians to stand up for Jesus Christ like never before.

The strong delusion has already been released. And if you're not careful, you'll get sucked right into the vortex.

Christians say they would never bow the knee to Satan. But the truth is: if you're all about self-love and self-pleasure anyway, you're already following his belief system.

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If you're someone who is struggling with homosexuality, there is powerful deliverance in store for you. Jesus Christ is a MIGHTY deliverer.

There is no sin so powerful or dirty that His blood cannot overpower and cleanse it completely.

"Come now, let us reason together, says the LORD: though your sins are like scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they are red like crimson, they shall become like wool." Isa 1:18

"I, even I am, he who blots out your trangressions, for my own sake, and remembers your sins no more." Isa 43:25

Jesus will give you a brand new life, a new heart and help you to develop a new mindset. You can literally become a NEW person through Jesus Christ! All you have to do is sincerely want it, and be willing to leave your former LGBT lifestyle (or whatever sinful lifestyle) behind, in favor of the brand new life that Jesus has in store for you.

Ray Comfort #fundie facebook.com

According to the Bible there are only two sorts of people on this earth--"the wicked and the just." The just are those who trust in God's mercy, and the wicked are those who are still in their sins.

Of course Richard Dawkins didn’t seek God when he had a stroke. He did exactly what the Bible says we do when we are proud: "The wicked in his proud countenance does not seek God; God is in none of his thoughts" (Psalm 10:4).

Here's What Richard Dawkins Said When Asked If He Prayed After His Stroke

Ray Comfort #fundie facebook.com

The staunch atheist has the zeal of a religious fanatic. He is fundamental in his belief that there is no God, and armed with basic Richard Dawkins phrases, he is ready for a fight. For him, atheistic evolution is a hill to die on, because that worldview opens up a pleasurable world of immorality. He thinks that it gives him license for fornication, pornography, and every other sinful pleasure his wicked heart desires. To him, there are no moral absolutes, because there is no God, and therefore no Moral Law. He is unreasonable, angry, bitter at God, and will color his speech by blaspheming the name of the God he doesn’t believe exists. The atheist is someone who pretends that there is no God.

Anthony Horvath #fundie christiannewswire.com

LA CROSSE, Wisc., Feb. 21, 2011 /Christian Newswire/ -- What's going on? Are all universally saved, after all? Did Richard Dawkins become a Christian? Did he… remain an atheist, and STILL go to heaven? Such questions leap to mind when presented with title of the newest short story collection released by author and Christian apologist Anthony Horvath: "Richard Dawkins, Antony Flew, and Mother Teresa Go to Heaven."

Written over a span of two years, these three short stories detail what happens as each of the individuals come face to face with the reality of life after death. From Mother Teresa, who devoted her life to God but felt abandoned by Him to Antony Flew who vowed to 'follow the evidence,' to Richard Dawkins, who with Bertrand Russell said, "Not enough evidence!" these stories draw from what is known publicly to imagine what would happen in this most private of moments.

The book is currently only available on Amazon Kindle and Barnes and Noble's Nook.

Author and apologist Anthony Horvath explains his purpose, "I have found that when I read stories their impact goes beyond the ideas they present. My whole being is stirred by them. That is why I also try to use stories. Antony Flew and Mother Teresa, of course, are deceased, but Richard Dawkins is still alive. I'd be interested to find out if he agrees with me on how he'd react when finally face to face with the Truth he was wrong about all along. I think that question is something we can all ponder, since even Christians will discover that there were points we misunderstood or were mistaken about. What will our response be?"

Horvath's apologetics ministry, Athanatos Christian Ministries, is unique in its attempt to use the arts and literature to make its case for Christianity along with more traditional methods of providing argument and evidence. From its annual Christian writing contests to its annual online apologetics conference featuring a defense of the family through film (keynote Gene E. Veith, with Jason Jones of "Bella" and Dallas Jenkins of "What If", and others), ACM attempts to engage the culture and call on other Christians to do the same.

"Let's face it," Horvath says, "People are moved as much by Story as they are by Evidence. And we've got the best Story in town."

Hemant menta #fundie patheos.com

Science is at war with religion. The conflict can be traced back to the Dark Ages, a period in which the church vigorously asserted dogma and persecuted anyone who questioned its authority, including scientific pioneers such as Galileo, Copernicus, and Bruno. Fortunately the Enlightenment came along in the eighteenth century and validated methods of acquiring knowledge through evidence and testing. These methods freed scientists to pursue truth without fear of recrimination from the church. Thus the scientific revolution was born. Yet the war between religion and science continues to this day.

If you believe this rendition of history, there’s a good chance you’ve been reading a public school textbook or the New Atheists. The idea that science and religion are at odds is a popular myth in our culture, perpetuated by news headlines like “God vs. Science” in Time magazine. Of the perceived conflict, Christopher Hitchens writes, “All attempts to reconcile faith with science and reason are consigned to failure and ridicule.” Richard Dawkins writes, “I am hostile to fundamentalist religion because it actively debauches the scientific enterprise… It subverts science and saps the intellect.”

Although it is widely believed that science and Christianity are at odds, the opposite is actually true. There is no inherent conflict between Christianity and science. We don’t mean to suggest that religious antagonism to science has never existed. It has and does. But the history of science shows that such claims of antagonism are often exaggerated or unsubstantiated. “Once upon a time, back in the second half of the nineteenth century,” says Alister McGrath, “it was certainly possible to believe that science and religion were permanently at war… This is now seen as a hopelessly outmoded historical stereotype that scholarship has totally discredited.”

The scientific enterprise as a sustained and organized movement emerged in Christian Europe. During the sixteenth century, people from every culture studied the natural world, and yet modern science emerged in Europe, a civilization primarily shaped by the Judeo-Christian world- view. Why? Because Christianity provided the philosophical foundation as well as the spiritual and practical motivation for doing science. The Christian worldview — with its insistence on the orderliness of the universe, its emphasis on human reason, and its teaching that God is glorified as we seek to understand his creation — laid the foundation for the modern scientific revolution.


God’s Universe


Most scientific pioneers were theists, including prominent figures such as Nicolaus Copernicus (1473–1543), Robert Boyle (1627–1691), Isaac Newton (1642–1727), Blaise Pascal (1623–1662), Johannes Kepler (1571–1630), Louis Pasteur (1822–1895), Francis Bacon (1561–1626), and Max Planck (1858–1947). Many of these pioneers intently pursued science because of their belief in the Christian God. Bacon believed the natural world was full of mysteries God meant for us to explore. Kepler wrote, “The chief aim of all investigations of the external world should be to discover the rational order which has been imposed on it by God, and which he revealed to us in the language of mathematics.” Newton believed his scientific discoveries offered convincing evidence for the existence and creativity of God. His favorite argument for design related to the solar system: “This most beautiful system of sun, planets, and comets could only proceed from the counsel and dominion of an intelligent and powerful being.”


Christopher Hitchens discounts the religious convictions of these scientific pioneers, claiming that belief in God was the only option for a scientist of the time. But this puts Hitchens in a curious dilemma. If religious believers get no credit for their positive contributions to society (e.g., shaping modern science) because “everyone was religious,” then why should their mistakes, like atrocities committed in the name of God, discredit them? This is a double standard. One cannot deny religious believers credit on the basis of “everyone was religious” and also assign blame on the same foundation. To make the case that “religion poisons everything,” Hitchens has to ignore evidence to the contrary. And he is more than willing to do so.


Dawkins accepts that some early scientific pioneers may have been Christians, but he believes Christian scientists are now a rarity: “Great scientists who profess religion become harder to find through the twentieth century.” However, in the same year that Dawkins published The God Delusion (2006), three leading scientists released books favorable to theism. Harvard astronomer Owen Gingerich released God’s Universe, arguing that an individual can be both a scientist and a believer in intelligent design. Internationally renowned physicist Paul Davies published Goldilocks Enigma, in which he argued that intelligent life is the reason our universe exists. Francis Collins, former head of the Human Genome Project, published The Language of God, in which he presents scientific and philosophical evidence for God. Incidentally, President Barack Obama appointed Francis Collins as the director of the National Institutes for Health, one of the world’s foremost medical research centers.


Naming scientists whose Christian worldview motivated their work doesn’t settle the issue of how science and religion relate. Entire books have been written on how science and religion intersect. But we do hope you see that many early scientific pioneers, as well as cutting-edge scientists today, derived their motivation for scientific research from the belief that God created the world for us to investigate and enjoy. These scientists did not view Christianity as incompatible with science.

Christian Voice #fundie christianvoice.org.uk

Richard Dawkins is so concerned that the atheist message is dying on its feet that he is to fund a humanist evangelistic campaign, Christian Voice has learned.

But in a twist which will have Christians in gales of laughter, the advertising campaign, which will be based on the catchy slogan 'There is probably no God. Now stop worrying and get on with your life,' is to be stuck on bendy-buses.

Apparently, an atheist blogger named Jon Worth came up with the idea, but his fellow humanists, not known for their generosity, wouldn't stump up the cash. Now Richard Dawkins, whose anti-Christian zeal knows little bounds, is to finance the doomed venture....Stephen Green, National Director of Christian Voice, said today:

'I should be surprised if a quasi-religious advertising campaign like this did not attract graffiti. People don't like being preached at. Sometimes it does them good, but they still don't like it.'

[The Atheist Bus Campaign, which aimed to raise £5,500, reached its target within hours of launch and has raised over £100,000 in 3 days]

Syrryn #fundie evilbible.com

(It's what Dawkins calls "The God of the Gaps." No matter how small science makes the gaps, the truly stupid will keep trying to shoehorn their 'god' into them.)

Richard Dawkins arrogance never fails to amaze me. What kind of professional adult spokesman, deliberatley calls people stupid???

I believe that if the Big Bang happened, then of course God did it. The proof lies in the fact that science cannot explain what was before it. Human intelligence states that there must have been something before the beginning as 'nothing' simply doesn't exist.
When Dawkins can explain this little conundrum, I may listen to him. In the mean time, whenever there is no earthly answer, then a Godly answer must suffice. To argue otherwise just seems childish to me.

Sylvia Thompson #fundie renewamerica.com

Finally, a prominent nation is taking on the homosexual agenda and rejecting it outright. A number of African nations have done the same, but third-world countries are not newsworthy to mainstream media.

The irony is stunning that a Communist nation would understand that preserving the value of men and women marrying and producing children makes for demographic survival, while many American Christian leaders cower in the shadows, in fear of activist homosexuals and their leftist supporters.

The Russian law calls for protecting children (minors) from the indoctrination of adults who would use them for their own ends. It states that fines will be imposed on any who propagandize non-traditional sexual relations among minors through dissemination of information that encourages such relations. Additionally, acts of encouraging a distorted perception of equivalence between traditional and non-traditional sexual behavior is banned. The anti-God types, of course, are screaming "discrimination" and "anti-gay," their clarion call to gin up support and sympathy, but the Russians are having none of it. Thank God.

Liberal control of the American education system has seen to it that indoctrination to homosexual behavior runs from pre-school through university experience. Especially is this indoctrination aimed at young blacks, because blacks, on the whole (steeped in Christian teachings), are least likely to embrace the homosexual agenda. The deliberate destruction of the black family by the liberal left is part of the effort to change this thinking.

I say "cheers" to the Russians on this one. That nation will probably outlive America.

RyanT #fundie rr-bb.com

What to do about anti-Christian books, teachers, assignments in College?

I just got my books today and classes starts Monday. I'm going into a multimedia field and one of my classes is Computer Fundamentals of Visual Communications with the book Visual Communication. I pick it up to flip through it and on the first of second page is a big picture of Obama (and I think "here we go, the progressives are now in my life") I proceed to skim through the book and wow!!! It is one big blasphemy after another. It's like three pages of propaganda and one page of actual knowledge I would need to know, then more progressive propaganda.

How do I handle this? I know I will have to write papers on this affront to God's word, work and will, so what do I do? Pleasing the Lord is first in my thoughts and actions always, much more important than anything else. I do know that I will be expected to toe the party line like a good socialist, but I don't think I can do it. I wonder if God would want me to just not comment on the anti-God parts and do my papers on the rest or take a stand? The problem is that I think I will be kicked out pretty quick for not toeing the line. I wanted to learn web design not only for my living but to also spread the truth of the Lord and hopefully bring some to Christ through electronic means. I know I will be praying on this subject and know the Lord will direct me. I just wanted your thoughts and insights on this and what you would do. Thank you so much for your help.

MediaWatch #racist polishforums.com

Historically anything Poles did for Jews, Jews took for GRANTED.

Poles ALLOWED Jews into Poland for ONE THOUSAND YEARS when every other nation was kicking them out and what did that get Poland? Hint: No good deed goes unpunished.

As long as you have Jewish Poland-Haters in media like the Anti-Polish New York Times or the anti-Polish Washington Post writing hit pieces on Poland, I say why do Jews and Poles even bother with each other?

The vicious media Anti-Polish Bigot Richard Cohen went crazy quoting the anti-Polish "Goebels" of Anti-Polish Hate propaganda Mr. Poland-Hater himself, Jan Gross, in Cohen's latest Hate piece on Poland recently.

Why should Poles do anything good for Jews when if they do 9 good things for Jews but ONE BAD thing, the anti-Polish Bigots at the New York Times and the Washington Post will only put a MICROSCOPE on the one bad thing the Poles did to Jews. And of course they will portray the Jews as eternal angels. Their simple media formula is "Poles are always BAD" and "Jews are always GOOD".

In Poland all Poles do is walk around on pins and needles when around Jews since they know at ANY minute, if a Jewish guy is having a bad day, and gets into an argument with a Polish guy, the Jewish guy will RUN to call a New York Times reporter or Poland-Hater at the Washington Post like Anti-Polish Bigot Richard Cohen and scream to him about ALL THE ANTI-SEMITISM he is seeing in Poland, like the "historical anti-semitism" the New York Times and Washington Post talk about. And how those "Polish death camps" Richard Cohen talks about had to be real blah blah blah blah

And with all the anti-Polish propaganda pumped into the minds of Jews by the New York Times, Washington Post and other anti-Polish media, WHY would Jews be crazy enough to want to LIVE in Poland today or be by Poles when according to the media anti-Polish Bigots the Poles are "gonna getcha" at any moment.

Timothy Dukeman #fundie afellowtruthseeker.blogspot.com

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Feminism draws several stark contrasts with the truth of revealed Scripture, rejecting biblical paradigms at every turn. In fact, for the Christian, feminism is best described as a declaration of war against the Bible’s teaching on sexuality. It should be recognized up front that feminism is not a Christian worldview; in fact it is an anti-Christian worldview. The Bible teaches that God created us Male and Female. Feminism teaches that gender is a social construct. The Bible teaches that men and women have distinct roles. Feminism teaches that the gender roles are evil and the Bible is an evil, patriarchal book. Those who hold to Feminism with even a modicum of consistency are lost. Many of them are themselves antichrists.

BRIAN #fundie baptist.org

Naji, I can assure you God is not laughing. And evolution is no joke. In fact what the theroy of evolution is , is anti-God. It is man's worthless way of trying to deny GOD and his power. Now what's funny about that?If you would only learn God's word and gain understanding you would not need any of these worthless ideas from man.

Aaron #fundie realjewnews.com

The very essence of our representative democracy is Anti-God.

The whole purpose of our system of government is to exclude God and His Commandments from society and allow men to make their own laws as they go. They do not want to follow absolute law and that is why all democracies degenerate.

The U.S.A. is the Anti-Christ and always has been. It is one of the heads of the U.N. beast that runs this world. Who also gives power to the little beast which is todays Israel whom we are forced to worship.

It’s all right there in Scripture. We are indeed living in the last times of Satan’s final (post millennial) deception of the world to fight against God and His Word. Judge the tree by it’s fruit.

katyanne #fundie teens-4-christ.org

Lol I like what your friend said. Of course we know that evolution is a heap of rubbish. Darwin might have gotten hit on the head when he thought that one up. No, I think it had more to do with the fact that he was so anti-God he had to come up with something that didn't have God in it.

katyanne #fundie teens-4-christ.org

Lol I like what your friend said. Of course we know that evolution is a heap of rubbish. Darwin might have gotten hit on the head when he thought that one up. No, I think it had more to do with the fact that he was so anti-God he had to come up with something that didn't have God in it.

Brad Watson #fundie amazon.com

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The anti-GOD antichrists atheists on this forum are probably too blind to 'acts of GOD' to recognize GOD's intervention with me - His Christ - yesterday. Therefore, I ask for volunteers for a sci-religious experiment to prove GOD/nature and I - their Christ - can produce a natural disaster for your neighborhood. Are there any?

A. S. Mathew #fundie christianpost.com

The U.S. is faced with a crtical economical problems which
was started with moral decay of the society. Our elected
leaders, both the legislative and judicial branch took
sides with liberalism and atheism, under the disguise of
secularism. Now, it came to a point that any anti-God
idea is a new idea which can be displayed in any place.
God is a compassionate God but He may show Himself that
He is God, then the lessons will be unbearably hard to
learn, and the judgement of pride and rebellion will be
terribly heavy to carry.

Brian Michael C #fundie forum.myspace.com

I decided to come to this religion board again today, just to see what some of you are talking about. And let me say this, I am truly ashamed of almost all of you.

I see questions like 'If Jesus did this...then why is this?' Or 'if God really exists, then why is this this?' Shut up with your godless blasphemy!!! Im sick of seeing it, not only here but in real life. God exists, and I know all of you know this you JUST CHOOSE TO DENY IT. I know most of you have come to see the wisdom and intelligence, and goodness that Christianity brings forth, but you hide that knowledge behind your hatred of life, and deny what you know is good and true.

Quit questioning, start accepting. You think you look smart when you question everything? You don't, you look like an ass. God himself is frowning as he reads what you write and is probably thinking, what the hell is wrong with this person?

Accept the gospel, quit living in the agony which is a life of anti-God hatred. Embrace that which is good, and quit thinking the onus is on God to prove himself...THE ONUS IS ON YOU, TO PROVE YOURSELF WORTHY TO MEET GOD AGAIN.

Do not forget my words, for I have come here to bring some of my sheep back on the right path. I am a shepherd, and although I realize I am stern with all of you sometimes, this is for your own good. Your souls are at stake and I will try everything I can to see that my brothers and sisters do not end up in hell!