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Kings Wiki #sexist en.kingswiki.com

The ages of women and their characteristics and experiences at these ages are as follows.

Age 18

According to Heartiste, "This is the age — from teenager to mid-20s — when a woman is in her nubile prime. Physically and emotionally she is at her horniest, her most feminine, and, not coincidentally, her most discriminating. She’s on the prowl for an alpha male, and specifically for a charming jerkboy whose devil-may-care attitude speaks so forcefully to her deep desire to submit to a top tier man with limitless lover options."

He also notes, "Hard to believe, but it is often easier to bed a very young woman than an older woman, if you are an older man. This is because 20-40% of women are specifically attracted to older men. It is hard-wired in them, and this hard-wiring can be reinforced by poor family upbringing resulting from divorce of parents or absentee fathers. Single moms are the greatest source of future generations of slutty daughters the world has ever known. . . . You can bang an 18-21 year old surprisingly quickly because they have little ASD (anti-slut defense). This is because they do not have the long history of sluttiness common to older women which needs to be rationalized away by posturing as a paragon of chaste virtue. A young woman simply won’t perceive sex with you as an admission of sluttiness. She is innocent to herself as well as to you."[1]

Roosh notes, "She is child-like and mostly intolerable. Her speech sounds like another language. She will only have sex when completely trashed, and has few redeeming qualities beyond her body. Says a lot of things that make you think you’re wasting your time. Best game to use: jealousy."[2]

Age 21

Hank Moody notes that a girl 21-25 "appreciates that I'm not writing her odes about my undying love and affection, and seem to want to keep things casual. They're getting hit up at every angle, and they're confused about whether they want to fuck the bartender or the lawyer. Then they realize they can do both with little ramification. I like being seen around town with them. Horrible conversationalists, and I have to dumb down my text messaging. Most of their texts are 'lol ur funny..' Society has told these girls that they can be total whores with no consequences, and eventually some good looking rich guy will scoop them up."[3]

Age 22

The four-year carnival called college is coming to a close. During this time, she’s enjoyed the absolute ride of her life: non-stop parties (as a true Carousel rider), trips, and gorging herself on the buffet of cock available to an American college girl—without the uncomfortable social stigmas of generations past. At a time where previous generations of women were getting nervous if they hadn’t snared a husband, today’s girl is “just getting started.” At this age, today’s girl is irretrievably drunk on her power. Any cautionary advice will be greeted with hubristic ridicule and disbelief.

Age 23

Roissy notes, "The 23-27 year old feels she is at her attractiveness peak, despite her peak having passed a few years earlier. This is because she is surrounded by many more high status men than she was while in college (or working at the Piggly Wiggly) who are expressing sexual interest in her. This social dynamic will work to inflate her ego beyond the bounds of her actual beauty ranking."[1]

Age 25

The first alerts—which go unheeded—that this ride isn’t forever start to rear their heads. The combination of a few harsh pump-and-dumps, and the knowledge that some of her smarter friends are getting hitched, start to impart a hard edge on her personality. Still, with ample beauty left over, most girls will continue to draw from the bank account with impunity. Heartiste writes, "During this age window — late 20s to late 30s — a woman is powerfully aware of the beginning of decline in her number one asset: her beauty. Physically, she is noticing small changes in herself — the first nascent signs of decay — that, assessed from a distance relative to womanhood as a whole aren’t so horrifying, but compared to what she was herself just a few years earlier will split her id wide open. Urgency compels her (if she’s psychologically healthy) to escape the single lady lookatme scene and start seriously buckling down to achieve the goal of snagging a man who will commit to her and, hopefully, help her become part of a family. Naturally, this pressure to settle limits her options and the longer she waits, the more her “Mr. Right” will deviate from the Mr. Right of her teenage dreams."

According to Roosh, "After you wear the t-shirt a couple of times, the fabric loses elasticity. You no longer get excited when wearing it because people have already seen you in it. Your eye starts to wander on new t-shirts (25-29 years old)." Also, according to Roosh's T-shirt analogy, "When you leave the loaf out, it gets a little hard. You have to heat it up with a toaster first, but it still won’t taste fresh. (25-29 years old)"

Roosh also writes, "single women over 25 are emotionally damaged in some way, are alpha widowed, or are professional daters who are incapable of making the proper relationship sacrifices."[4]

Age 26

Hank Moody notes that a girl 26-30 is "Still hot enough to be seen around town with, but they start throwing serious girlfriend vibes - particularly public displays of affection. Sex is practically thrown at you after a few months of dating. You're that good looking rich guy who is going to scoop them up. They know the biological clock is ticking fast, and their family is pushing them to 'settle down.'"

Age 27

Rollo notes, "By the age of 27 women’s SMV decline has begun in earnest. That isn’t to say that women can’t remain stunningly attractive and vivacious in their post-peak years, but comparative to the next crop of 22-23 year olds, the decline progressively becomes more evident. Competition for hypergamously suitable mates becomes more intense with each passing year. The age’s between 27 and 30 are subliminally the most stressful for women as the realization sinks in that they must trade their ‘party years’ short term mating protocol for a long term provisioning strategy."[5]

Age 28

Roissy notes, "28-30 year olds are a mixed bunch. Some are riding a wave of career and social success that has nowhere to go but down, and their bloated egos reflect that. Others, less conventionally successful, are emotionally frazzled by the disappearing act of their heady youth and by the intractability of their singledom. You will find some of the cuntiest, and sweetest, girls in this age range."[1]

Age 29

After repeated pressings of the snooze button, it starts getting harder to ignore the clangor of the alarm clock. Having gotten her fill on the party lifestyle—and starting to feel, if not fully understand, the diminished effectiveness of her fading looks—she declares herself “ready to settle down.” Regrettably, the combination of having very little beauty-capital remaining and impossibly high standards—the product of years of enjoying the high life at the expense of her future solvency—will conspire to keep her single.

Age 30

According to Roosh, "If you leave the bread out for too long, mold develops. You can cut away the mold, toast the bread, and still be able to eat it, but you won’t enjoy it. You’d have to be starving. (30-34 years old)"

Hank Moody notes that a girl 30-36 "Is either divorced or has never been married for a reason. Anthropomorphizes their dog or cat. Struggles with depression issues. Sex is thrown at you. They know that the good looking rich guy is never going to come, and you're simply here for sex and conversation. At this point they would settle for almost any beta willing to commit and risk a geriatric pregnancy."

Heartiste notes that "a man marrying an over-30 woman is investing everything he has in a rapidly depreciating pleasure provider that has already lost a lot of its aesthetic value."[6]

The over-30 woman has likely amassed an impressive knob count. When you marry a 30+ woman, you’re marrying her 30+ cockas. Hope you like getting phantom cucked! As magically prehensile as your penis may be, she’ll never look up to it in cross-eyed awe like she did with her first cock when she was younger, hotter, tighter, and inexperienced.

The over-30 woman is bitter from a wasted prime spent on failed relationships she hoped would lead to marriage. Now that you’re marrying her, she should be grateful, but she's not. . . . .

There’s another, subtle, reason to refuse the wedded diss of marrying the over-30 woman. Now, naturally, if you marry an under-30 woman, the day will come, ostensibly, that she’ll be your over-30 wife. But you’ll have something that chagrined men who married women on the cusp of sagging cups don’t have: Years of very fond, very monopolized, very supple memories. If you maritally snag a 21-year-old minx and occupy her sugar walls for the next ten years, the spermatomically bonded cervix-splattered glue of all those splendid tumbles of passion accrue into something larger than the sum of your individuated speckles. All that young woman heat, heat which will never be replicated with the older version of your wife, captures into limbic amber a network of interlocked, superconductive emotions with the power to sustain lovingrapture a good ways past the poignantly brief era of peak wife ripeness, onward into the elevator muzak era of bland marital inertia (50 years, plus or minus).

You marry an over-30 woman and you’re left grasping at a grease truck menu of curdled, pear-shaped memories and wrinkled recollections for sustenance.

According to trav777, "a woman at 31 is looking for a marriage and kid as a BUCKET LIST ITEM. She is not looking for a husband or a partner or obligations. If she were into that more than herself, she’d have landed a decent man 10 years prior."

Relampago Furioso notes that at 30, the thousand cock stare often develops.[7]

Age 31

Roissy notes:[1]

In some ways, women in the 31-34 age range are the toughest broads to game. (By “toughest”, it is meant “most time consuming”.) It’s counterintuitive, yes, but there are factors at work besides her declining beauty which mitigate against the easy, quick lay. For one, it is obviously harder to meet single 31-34 year old women than it is to meet single younger women. Marriage is still a pussy-limiting force to contend with for the inveterate womanizer, but Chateau apprentices are hard at work battling the scourge of mating market disturbances caused by the grinding and churning of the marriage machine.

But the bigger reason 31-34 year olds are harder to game than any other age group of women has to do with the wicked nexus of entitlement and self-preservation that occurs at this age in women. When you combine a disproportionate sense of entitlement fueled by years of feminism, steady paychecks and promotions, and cheerleading gay boyfriends with suspicions of every man’s motives and a terrible anxiety of being used for a sexual fling sans marriage proposal, you get a venom-spitting malevolent demoness on guard against anything she might perceive as less than total subjugation to her craving for incessant flattery and princess pedestaling.

Age 32

The magical years are officially gone, and the long descent to complete invisibility to the opposite sex is well underway. Thanks to social programming (e.g., Sex in the City and the myth that “a woman’s sexual prime is in her 30s”), she can rationalize that her “Mr. Right” will arrive any minute. However, she’s likely to become little more than a second- or third-stringer in a player’s long roster of options. A few of these women will get bailed out by blue-pill betas, who still buy into the marriage trap, and don’t realize (or care) they’re buying a used car with the odometer rolled back. But this marriage is almost certainly doomed to divorce-failure, since nothing can ever compete with her 15-year prime-time binge. She will be nagged by dissatisfaction the moment her last party–her wedding–ends.

She enjoyed the Sweet 15, but she’ll enjoy little more.

GBFM writes that with 32-year-olds, it's necessary to get a "leaf-blower to get all the dust off".

Age 35

According to Roosh's T-shirt analogy, "Eventually, holes develop in the fabric. It has been used too many times. Now it is only good to clean the toilet bowl before finally being placed in the trash. (35 and up)." Also, according to his bread analogy, "If you leave it for even longer, mold takes over and completely destroys the bread. There is no way to excise the toxic portions. You must throw it away before the mold makes you sick. (35 and up)" Relampago writes:[8]

Women “expire” at age 35 for numerous reasons. Their fertility declines sharply at this age. Their beauty declines, no matter how much makeup they cake on. If not already married to her, from this moment forward she offers nothing to a partner but a well-used piece of anatomy and a manipulative, even predatory disposition towards men and their finances.

The expiration date may fluctuate around age 35 for a couple of reasons, i.e. good genetics or a sweet personality (usually being faked) but this age is a good baseline for the “expiration date” for females.

Age 40

Heartiste writes, "The final romantic life cycle for women (ages 40-death), this stage is the longest and, sadly from the perspective of one who adores women when they are at their most womanish, the dreariest, though it does offer as consolation a tranquilizing serenity that can safely usher a woman through her middle years without resort to painkillers. In this cycle, a woman still harbors those tingles for the alpha jerk, but they are sufficiently suppressed by biomechanic winding-down and stone cold circumstance — her wilted bloom — to allow the flourishing of her other female needs. Those other needs center around her desire to a) not be abandoned to a cold cruel sexual market and b) enjoy at least facsimiles of reciprocal love so that she does not feel abandoned within her relationship."

Anonymous Coward #conspiracy godlikeproductions.com

NO Haredi Jews are human! they are all REPTILIAN!

No humans would ever willingly live such a crazy extremely overly strict and opressive lifestyle!

The human Jews are mainly in the modern Orthodox, Conservative, and Reform sects of Judaism!

The only ultra orthodox or properly called frum Jews are that are human are Jews who have been FORCED AGAINST THEIR WILL TO BE VERY RELIGIOUS/FRUM!

The frum sect of Judaism as a whole is VERY EVIL!!!

No ultra orthodox Jews that are human are willingly very religious!

It is only there to horribly oppress humans, Jewish humans mainly, which there are plenty of in the world!

Ultra orthodox/frum Judaism HORRIBLY oppresses women!!!

The reptilian Jewish women who are frum which is the VAST majority of them will claim they are not oppressed at all, they will claim that their laws regarding women are good laws and that they love living their lifestyle.

They don't actually believe their gender modesty laws which are the main laws that horribly oppress women(and men) are actually true!! THEY KNOW THOSE LAWS AND CUSTOMS ARE FALSE!!!

They have to pretend to genuenly live those crazy lifestyles so that they have the grounds to try to force it upon humans! and give them the ground to look down upon and put down Jews who do not are not frum!

Obviously if they outwardly did not live a frum lifestyle then it would defeat them being able to force it upon humans!

No Jews in the biblical times covered their hair(once married) covered their arms, their knees, none wore collars specifically up to their collar bone.

There is NOTHING immodest about a girls arms showing above the elbows, anyone and I mean ANYONE who genuenly believes that a girls arms showing above the elbows is immodest are INSANE and are not human at all and are nothing but reptilians!

How can a girls are OR shoulders showing be immodest when there is no private parts showing at all! EXACTLY!

NO Jews in the biblical times practiced the "no touching the opposite gender rule" which means they will speak to the opposite gender an acceptable amount, but will NEVER have any physical contact with them asides from their spouse and close family members!

Their excuse for that insane rule is that if men and women start shaking hands, putting their arms around each other like in a picture, or hugging each other, that it will lead to them cheating on their spouse! because they are crazy.

Well i'm sure LOTS of frum men and women cheat on their spouces but you will NEVER KNOW because they strictly live frum lives as far as out in public goes!!

I say that because reptilians are degraded slutty whores who are ALWAYS SECRETLY SLEEPING AROUND, period!

NO Jews in the biblical times were abstinent! all post pubescent males in that time masturbated a hell of a lot, and had premarital sex! which is OK! if you actually know them!

and masturbation is not harmful when your balls are producing endless amounts of sperm in the millions every day!!

Masturbation is not WASTING when all the sperm created in your balls dies within a couple weeks and gets absorbed back into the body anyways, so I guess that you are wasting your sperm no differently if you masturbated even when you are celibate >:)

Frum Jews will LIE and say that biblical Jews did everything frum Jews do today, when THEY DID NOT!!

The mainstream frum sects of Judaism practice the no touching the opposite gender rule, but they ALL speak to the opposite gender a decent amount, while many of the Haredi ether limit how much they speak to the opposite gender to hardly speaking to the opposite gender to MANY of the NOT SPEAKING TOT HE OPPOSITE GENDER AT ALL!

The Haredi Jews practice actual gender separation in their whole daily lives while the main stream frum Jews do not!! the mainstream frum Jews will admit that Jews do not have to segregate themselves from the opposite gender in their daily lives while many Haredi will say that it is an actual rule!! when that rule cannot be found ANYWHERE in the Torah, PROVING THAT THE HAREDI JEWS MAKE UP INSANE LAWS, which proves that all sects of frum Judaism have made up all the other insane laws! since NONE OF THEM are stated in exact words in the Torah!!!!

They act like the "no speaking to the opposite gender custom" is an actual rule(while even the main stream frum Jews will admit there is no rule in all of Judaism saying that Jews can't speak to each other, and that Jews are allowed to speak to each other casually a normal amount) so that proves that all of frum Judaism is a hoax when you have the Haredi Jews who greatly limit to not speaking to the opposite gender at all, a big insane law of theirs that is totally made up, which shows that since they make up a whole bunch of HORRIBLE bs, ALL SECTS OF FRUM JUDAISM HAVE DONE THAT, resulting in ALL the modesty laws of ultra orthodox Judaism!

It's all very sad, the frum Judaism definition of modesty is CRAZY! and VERY NEUROTIC!

As long as girls have no private parts showing then that is modest enough!

The fact that frum women have to cover their arms up to their elbows while men with their very attractive big muscular arms do NOT have to cover their arms at all, when women pay attention to guys arms and are attracted to guys arms a lot more then men pay attention to women's arms and are attracted to women's arms, just shows how FALSE the law of women having to cover their arms is! and women are just as attracted to men as men are to women, women, and you have just as many men who control their sexual urges as well as women, and just as many women who have a lack of control over their sexual urges as much as men, SO THAT IS NO EXCUSE!

and that the law of women covering their arms was made up by EVIL REPTILIANS who posed as great rabbi's and sages when they were really FRAUDS!!

I could go on for ages and ages, but that is enough that you can see that frum Judaism just like Catholicism is very evil and is only created to horribly oppress humans and make our lives very miserable!

Conservative Judaism like original biblical Judaism is not evil AT ALL!

Tatsuyagatari #sexist #crackpot reddit.com

While I do feel sorry for her that she died and my condolences go to her family, I personally find it hard to believe that someone as attractive as her would have autism, and I am speaking as someone who has autism myself and has friends who are autistic themselves. I mean almost, if not all attractive women don't suffer anything in their lives (I am not trying to advocate for their suffering whatsoever), so it's really shocking and disheartening that someone like her who could have lived an insanely easy life of free gifts and handsome men trying to chat with her would eventually end up committing suicide. While I feel sympathy for anyone who committed suicide, even attractive women, it's just really hard or completely impossible me to relate with attractive women in any shape or form since their lives are almost, if not always, like the polar opposite of mine (i. e., attractive women have millions of friends while I have almost none, attractive women also have loads of handsome men wanting to fall in love with them while no one asked me out).

Where are these free gifts? I see this claim over and over that women get free stuff. Where's your proof?

Attractive women can just post pictures of themselves being sexy, hot, and whatnot, open up a Patreon or OnlyFans for exclusive photos which are locked behind paywalls, and men who are desperate for her attention pay up for such locked photos. Attractive women also get to travel around the world to exotic places with 5 star hotels for free, while their boyfriends, fiancees, or husbands pay up for everything, or that travel funds are funded by online payments. I don't condemn attractive women for taking the easy route but that is almost, if not always the case. I am not saying attractive women have no talent but with such an easy option to make quick cash, in no way in nine hells would they pass up such an opportunity.

If her boyfriend/fiancé/husband doesn't have exotic 5 star hotel money, that's not going to happen.

Every beautiful woman is not going to rake in big bucks for simply appearing online. The ones who do get real money out of it have to put in some work.

With the existence of donation sites like Patreon and Only fans, things have never become easier for attractive women to make quick cash, and Instagram sponsorships have become all the more easier for them hence the reason you almost, if not never find attractive women working all those painful 9-5 jobs that pay almost jack shit in comparison. Again, not condemning attractive women for taking the easy route to money, but it's only the reality I am stating.

Autism is a mental “illness” (if it can/should really be called that), not a physical one, as you well know being diagnosed with it yourself. Even though she was high-functioning, she was probably very socially awkward despite being conventionally attractive.

I am well aware that autism manifests mentally, not physically, but at the same time, this is the first time I have ever heard of a conventionally attractive woman having autism. As far as I know, there seemed to be a negative correlation between conventional attractiveness and autism, and the only ones I know who have autism are pretty ugly.

Personality and sociability really is a big determining factor when it comes to finding a significant other; if she was awkward, didn’t make eye contact, etc. those would unfortunately be factors that would make her unattractive to a majority of the populace. She was a gorgeous young woman. That of course is true, but it further goes to show that looks rarely mean a damn thing in this world.

Well, to be fair, being attractive does have its benefits, such as more potential suitors and more free gifts. What happened to her was indeed sad as she somehow failed to attract people, even as friends, and drove herself to suicide.

Why is it hard to believe that someone attractive has autism? It’s internal.

It's hard to believe because I have never heard of an attractive woman having any form of autism whatsoever, even online. The only women I have ever heard of having autism are all unattractive, so hearing that someone as attractive as her had autism is rather shocking.

So you think it’s odd or rare solely because you haven’t observed it yet? I get that you’re autistic too, but do you see how silly that sounds?

It doesn't have to be solely through observation. It's because this is the first time I have ever heard of an attractive woman having autism. Prior to this, I have never heard of a single attractive woman having form of autism whatsoever, and that includes the online world as well.

But it is solely through your observation. I’ve never heard of a dinosaur smaller than a hummingbird before, it doesn’t make it that weird. I was just surprised.

Isn't observation solely through one's own sight? Because I haven't even heard online about any attractive women with autism (and that, by definition, wouldn't count as an observation).

ElliotsSecondAscent #sexist reddit.com

[Summary: False dichotomy between "looks are completely irrelevant" and incel crackpottery. Conspicuously silent on numerical results. Also a "wonderful" demonstration of neochauvinists' failures at understanding biology and a nightmare to format.)

The Black Pill backed up by hard data and facts.

Preface:

All cursive text is not my own, they are quoted from the articles sourced under every title.

Black Pill Edition: Female nature
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The relevance of personality as a petulant farce
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Small Appetizer
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Before we start with the more serious studies let me present you a small appetizer to stimulate the intake of the Black Pill.
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A couple of years ago OkCupid conducted an interesting experiment. January 15th, 2013 was proclaimed by OkCupid as “Love is Blind Day” to celebrate the launch of a blind dating app released on that same day.

During “Love is Blind Day”, pictures were removed from OkCupid for a total of 7 hours and so data was gathered and the way people interacted with each other visibly changed!


As you can see, there was more and deeper conversation with an increase in exchange of personal information. A vast improvement for everyone! So, it seemed.

Here’s what happened next:

• When the photos were restored at 4PM, 2,200 people were in the middle of conversations that had started “blind”. Those conversations melted away. The goodness was gone, in fact worse than gone. It was like we’d turned on the bright lights at the bar at midnight.

Summarized in this graph.

Starting from the moment OkCupid released the photos, conversations died down almost immediately. The conversation life expectancy dropped nearly 30% just two messages later in the thread when the photos were back on.

There was another also another smaller experiment, that can be summarized by this excerpt:

• We took a small sample of users and half the time we showed them, we hid their profile text. That generated two independent sets of scores for each profile, one score for “the picture and the text together” and one for “the picture alone.” Here’s how they compare. Again, each dot is a user. Essentially, the text is less than 10% of what people think of you.

The second graph.

The text makes almost no difference on how you’re viewed.

Lastly, there was also the experiment where Okcupid let people predict personality based on profiles. In this case a beautiful picture strongly correlates with a beautiful personality when you let people be the judge. Third graph.

Conclusion:

Photos have a greater impact on the course of a conversation than the intimacy of that same conversation, which displayed the personality of both correspondents. The text added to your profile meant to introduce your characteristics, plays an insignificant role next to the photo. Your personality will be established in advance primarily based on your photo.

source: https://theblog.okcupid.com/we-experiment-on-human-beings-5dd9fe280cd5

What is beautiful is good, really good.
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It's commonly known that "looks matter", but have you asked yourself the question: How much do they matter? Especially in regards to the widely and heavily emphasized personality?

Let us take a look in some more professional studies who have pondered this same question.
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In the year 2015, a study in Italy (subject: social psychology) researched the effects of attractiveness, status and gender on the evaluation of personality.

quote:

• Present research examines the combined effects of attractiveness, occupational status, and gender on the evaluation of others’ personality, according to the Big Five model.

I chose this particular study, because it's recent and the first of it's kind. A myriad of older studies have already concluded that perceiving a person as good looking fosters positive expectations about personal characteristics (1).

• The effects of attractiveness are strong and pervasive. As Langlois et al. (2000) underline in their meta-analysis, attractiveness is a noteworthy advantage for both children and adults in almost every domain. Based on the “what is beautiful is good” effect (Dion et al., 1972), several studies (Eagly, Ashmore, Makhijani, & Longo, 1991); Feingold, 1992; Langlois et al., 2000) demonstrated that this phenomenon functions as a stereotype, making the perceived link between appearance and personality larger than the actual link

In short, attractive people are perceived as having far better personalities even when that isn't the case.

• Indeed, people seem to assume that positive interpersonal qualities and physical attractiveness are systematically linked (i.e., a “halo effect”) (Andreoni & Petrie 2008; Callan, Powell, & Ellard, 2007; Smith, McIntosh, & Bazzini, 1999).

Off topic personal note:

It’s not that incels have bad personalities, they are perceived as such because of their looks. Now you’ll say that we possess misogynistic and violent attitudes but ask yourself, was this behavior preempted by the way we were treated or did we grow towards it?


Now to the final closure of this particular study.

• In general, results are in line with the ‘beauty is good’ effect (Dion et al., 1972), as people seem to believe that physical attractiveness implies positive personality traits, but the effects of attractiveness are different for men and women.

The results came in as predicted, with the exception that there were differences for men and women. Attractive men were perceived as more extroverted and open minded than attractive women, creating an advantage for attractive men.

In other words, it’s better to be an attractive man than to be an attractive woman.

• For Extraversion the effect of attractiveness is the same for women and men but is stronger for male targets. Attractiveness has a positive effect on Conscientiousness only for women whereas it increases Openness only for men.

• Thus, overall the “beauty is good effect” seems to be greater for men.

I will not go too deep in the status aspect because it was stated as rather controversial.

source for the cursive text: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4873083/


Female nature
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Excellent genes or providing ability
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The covering of personality serves as a foundation to grasp in a clearer manner for what I am going to say next. Now, what does a woman want when looking for a mate?

Let's look at this from an evolutionary perspective.
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Physical attractiveness and especially masculinity indicate good genetic quality, which is important for healthy offspring while ability to provide amplifies the survival rate of offspring because it needs sufficient resources to survive as well(2).

The reason why masculinity plays an enormous role in the mating choices of the human female, is because masculinity in itself greatly enhances physical attractiveness. However, a female's desire for strong masculine features may be influenced depending on whether she wants a long term relationship or a short term one on which I'll come back later.

• From an evolutionary view, extremes of secondary sexual characteristics (more feminine for women, more masculine for men) are proposed to be attractive because they advertise the quality of an individual in terms of heritable benefits; they indicate that the owners of such characteristics possess good genes. In other words, such traits advertise the possession of genes that are beneficial to offspring inheriting them in terms of survival or reproduction

Females may choose less masculine faces in some cases (for LTR) because they will often associate masculinity with infidelity, masculine men will not be perceived as good long term partners(3). A woman needs a loyal provider to raise offspring. Masculine men are still preferred for copulation however, because they possess the best genes to pass on.

• Increasing the masculinity of face shape increased perceptions of dominance, masculinity and age but decreased perceptions of warmth, emotionality, honesty, cooperativeness and quality as a parent.

YOUR PERSONALITY IS ASSESSED THROUGH YOUR FACE

This may be well and good, but women want men who possess certain personality traits too. Someone who they can form an emotional connection with is what they claim. Funnily enough, the way your personality is judged is through your face. You will not be liked for your personality but in fact for your face. People do not care for who you are but what you look like. As you already know: “The better your face, the better your so called personality”.

• Personality traits are reported cross-culturally to be among the most important factors in partner choice by both sexes [1,118]. If desired personality is so important, it would appear likely that personality attributions elicited by a face would affect its attractiveness. For example, women who value cooperation and good parenting may avoid masculine-faced men. Thus, instead of feminine faces being attractive and this attractiveness driving positive personality attributions, it may be that the personality attributions are driving the attractiveness judgements.

They are essentialy saying that your personality equals your face. Personality = Face

The meme is confirmed true.

• One study has indeed demonstrated that a desire for some personality traits influences judgements of facial attractiveness [121]. Individuals valuing particular personality traits find faces appearing to display these traits attractive.

Even when it’s not related at all, if your face looks like a certain desired personality it will be attractive to the person who desires that personality.

Being aware of this prospect makes women pickier than thought before. At first women emphasizing the importance of personality made them seem much less shallow since anyone, regardless of looks can possess a certain personality. Now it is not really a certain personality they are desiring, but a certain face that looks like that personality.

• Thus, desired personality influences perceptions of facial attractiveness in opposite sex faces, changing the result to: ‘what is good is beautiful’ [121].

source for the cursive text: : https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3130383/

THE INFLUENCE OF THE MENSTRUAL CYCLE

It's possible one could be thinking that none of this poses an actual problem because different women want different personalities, thus different faces. Following from that, most men should still have a shot.

Things are a little trickier than that, unfortunately.

During ovulation, when a woman is most fertile and the best moment for impregnation; her desires for masculine features increase significantly and so her chances for cheating in her quest for a sexy masculine man(4).

• Women prefer the smell of dominant males, more masculine male faces and men behaving more dominantly when at peak fertility than at other times in their menstrual cycle.

That’s not at all, during peak fertility they also prefer more masculine bodies and more masculine voices.

The perfect strategy for a female is to be impregnated by a masculine dominant man and be provided by less masculine more loyal and less dominant men.

• Cyclic preferences could influence women to select partners when most likely to become pregnant that possess traits that may be most likely to maximize their offspring's quality via attraction to masculinity or serve to help acquire investment via attraction to femininity.

source for the cursive text: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0018506X07000360

For reference, from masculine to less masculine.

If you understand this, it’s far easier grasp how it comes that 8000 years ago when there was no civilization; 1 man used to reproduce for 17 women. I can only hypothesize the female copulated with the dominant masculine males while being provided by ignorant less masculine men(5).

Final conclusion:
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You are not desired for your personality as man. You are desired for your looks, genes or ability to provide.

Fun addition:

It's been posted here some times before, but just to be sure.

http://www.webtoons.com/en/drama/lookism/list?title_no=1049

Black pilled fun to read manhwa.

Auxfite #sexist reddit.com

What i've learned from cold approaching over 350 women

What i've learned from cold approaching over 350 women
Past 5-6 months I’ve probably cold approached around 300-400 girls

Things I've learned:

1. Cougars go for young men because they missed out on hypergamy at a young age. Due to FOMO (Fear of missing out)

2. Cold approaching women at college parties, Clubs is as easy as ever. I cant remember a time i got rejected once. I simply go up to her ask her whatever vibe i feel from her. They will never be angry or mad at you or turn you off. In fact women are more than willing to give you their snapchat if you ask. Ive learned that rejection comes from them giving you their social media but never opening your stories ONCE. they simply just used you for validation.

3. Location is very important part in where you cold approach you have a way better success rate @ parties, clubs, and bars but places like the grocery store, shopping, a park will catch a women off guard and she will be creeped out. But when you display high value she then will be interested to hear what else you have to say and honestly its not worth the effort i hate giving girls free validation and attention. my success rate at parties was 9/10. outside of that environment 2-3/10. Las Vegas is probably the easiest place in the world to game and cold approach. Law 4: Always say less than necessary

4. The cure to stop being a beta (which 85-90% of men in the USA suffer from) is to take action and boost your testosterone by lifting heavy ass weights 4-5x a week. Women are attracted to masculine as men are attracted to feminine women. So do whatever it takes to boost your test (I don't advice steroids or TRT). Eat healthy fats (avocados, grass fed beef, eggs, almonds, etc) lift, lift, lift, avoid soy, stop watching porn, and stop fapping everyday. Its proven fact that your testosterone gets a small boost when you stop fapping for a week. Before TRP i was 60% alpha 40% beta and how i cured my betaness was going to the gym 5-6x a week. Instead of being the average guy to make excuses and complain I went out and did the work and what i sowed i reaped. Law 25: Re-create yourself

5. As i got more experience it became very very easy to spot out damaged goods, alpha widows, and BPD. These girls are the empty ones who post nudes or sexual pics on social media or are constantly seeking validation to fill the emptiness. These girls are usually the ones with tattoos, wear lots of make up (to hide the insecurities), wear tight clothes and try to reveal as much as possible, the bigger the hoop earning the bigger the hoe, they give you the thousand cock stare, they have piercings outside of their ears, they talk about their exes, they post on social media EVERYDAY. Damage pair bond is real and its affecting the younger generation more than ever and its because everything is become accepted and apps like tinder dont help, Hollywood music artist like Cardi B & Nicki Minaj promote the dominate female and how being a whore is how to get ahead. The divorce rate in the last 10 years is up 60% and its only going to grow higher.

6. Men SMV doesn't peak till 40. I'm in my mid 20s and i know that if i was in my early 20s i wouldn't be able to have this much success due to my facial features (women like masclinality) so my advice to the young men out here know you are super blessed to discover TRP at a young age. As you see i approach this many women and i dont feel anything special about it. Just like how rich people say money doesnt bring you happiness its the same with women. I didnt find a wife or someone who can raise my kids so i gained nothing out of this. So focus on becoming your best version of yourself, try out monk mode, hit the gym, read as much as you can, learn the stock market and cryptocurrency cycles. When you go out and have fun dont just game girls go out and befriend bros. read as much of the TRP as you can, find a spiritual life, and find balance. Dont rely on anything like drugs,alcohol,women to bring you happiness because its all temporary. Law 29: Plan all the way to the end

7. Young women are more damaged as ever. Pick your poison 1 Hot 2 Single 3 Sane. You can only pick 2

8. If you meet a girl and make plans with her and she flakes ghost her and dont even bother watching her stories or trying to get in contact with her and watch her hamster spin. If she sees youre high value she will hit you back up (FOMO). this works especially with high ego, low attention span millennial girls. (Law 8: Make other people come to you – use bait if necessary)

9. When your friends or others see your success with women they will start treating you like a god. But they are just using you for what you can provide and offer(clout chasers). Dont be confused and think they are your friends they are your enemy. (Crab in a bucket) Drop your loser friends (beta males) Low-T attitudes are contagious. Being friends with emasculated men that are pussy-whipped and passive is toxic. The same goes for your friends that do nothing but drink beer and watch sports highlights on the weekends. You are the average of the 5 people you spend the most time with, and high-T men have high-T friends Law 2: Never put too much trust in friends, learn to use enemies

10. Women are more attracted to you when they see you with other girls. It hamsters in their brain what does she see in him? I don’t really know how to put this in words but it’s true

Please don't forget to read Part 1 I commented it below.

My background and stats. African/Caribbean.. in my mid 20s, Live in the liberal SF Bay Area, 6'0..

To those asking how do i know i approach this much? My snapchat stories went from 40 views to 300s and majority of the people i added were females.

PLEASE PLEASE READ 48 LAWS OF POWER. Become the Machiavellian women desire. Jesus Christ is King! Happy holidays to you and your family!

Triweekly Antifeminist #fundie triweeklyantifeminist.wordpress.com

The esteemed commentator Chinzork wrote:

For one of the first posts on this blog, I think you should debunk all of the common talking points against abolishing the AOC. The talking points get repetitive after a while, so an article debunking all of them sounds good.

Alright then, you got it. Herein is a compilation of the 15 most popular Blue Knight arguments, each argument followed by a thorough dissection thereof.

#1: Teenagers only become sexually mature after completing puberty around 16.

This is a wholly metaphysical proposition; a statement of belief. The Blue Knight starts out from the premise that a “completion of puberty” is a prerequisite for this nebulous state known as “sexual maturity,” then makes the circular argument that, because a 13-year-old has not yet completed puberty, he or she are thus sexually immature. “Sexual maturity” is an altogether arbitrary concept, and there isn’t any way to measure it or test it.

The Blue Knight makes it seem like he or she has objectively examined the issue and reached the conclusion that the age of “sexual maturity” just so happens to start when puberty is over; but there has not actually been any such objective examination of the issue – it simply has been assumed (axiomatically) that this is the case, and the whole “argument” proceeds from this unproven, arbitrary, and essentially metaphysical assumption.

The Blue Knight argument posits that 1) without “sexual maturity” sex is harmful and as such should be illegal; 2) a full completion of puberty is a prerequisite for “sexual maturity.” You may well give the following counter-argument, accepting — for the sake of discussion — the former premise, while rejecting the latter, and say thus: “children become sexually mature after completing adrenarche around the age of 9.”

Fundamentally, however, I have seen no evidence whatsoever that a “sexually immature” person is necessarily harmed (or victimized) by sexual relations merely due to being, according to whatever arbitrary definitions one uses, a “sexually immature” person. I suspect that, as a matter of fact, “sexually immature” people often enjoy sex and benefit from it even more than the so-called “sexually mature” folks. And again, the very distinction between “mature” and “immature” is altogether metaphysical in this regard, like the distinction between “pure” and “impure” or “holy” and “unholy.” It is hocus pocus; theology not-so-cleverly disguised as biology.

According to Blue Knight “morality,” an extremely fertile 15-year-old female should be prevented from sex (because “sexually immature”), while a 55-year-old female who has no ovaries left should be free do get fucked however she likes. It is very clear that such a “morality” is really an anti-morality; it is against what is biologically natural, it is against human nature specifically, it is degenerate, and it is detrimental to the interests of civilization and the TFR.

#2: The Age of Consent protects young people from doing things (sex) which they don’t really want to do.

I have seen no evidence that young people “do not really want” to have sex. On the contrary, I have seen, and keep seeing, that young people greatly desire to engage in sexual activities. That is why they engage in them. If 11-year-old Lucy is a horny little slut who enjoys giving blowjobs to all the boys in the neighborhood (many such cases), the Age of Consent does not protect her from something which she is reluctant about doing; it prevents her — by deterring men from approaching her — from doing something which she does in fact desire to do.

The Age of Consent is simply not needed. Think for a moment about young people. Do you not realize that they are just as eccentric, and can be just as wild, as older people? Why is it that when a 19-year-old chick randomly decides to have an orgy with 3 classmates after school, that is okay; but when a 12-year-old chick likewise randomly decides to do just that, oh noes, she is a “victim” of a horrible crime? We accept that each person is unique, independently of age; and we realize that there are children –not to mention young adults — who are very much into X while others are very much into Y. Why, then, should it be so “shocking” when it turns out that some children, and plenty of young teenagers, are very much into sex? Being interested in sex is arguably one of the most natural things there are, on par with being interested in food; certainly it is more natural than being interested in physics and chemistry and mathematics, right? If we accept the existence of child prodigies, children who are naturally driven to pursue all kinds of weird and special callings, why can’t we accept that there are indeed lots of children who pursue the very natural thing which is called “sex”?

Young teenagers have extremely high sex-drives, and the idea that they “do not really want sex” is contradicted every single moment. This is all the more remarkable given that we are living in a puritanical, prudish, sex-hostile, joy-killing, pedo-hysterical, infantilizing society; yet teenagers manage to overcome this intense anti-natural social programming, and do what nature commands them to do. “Child innocence” is a self-perpetuating myth, which society shoves down the throats of everyone all the time since age 0, and then uses this self-perpetuating myth which has been forcefully injected into society’s bloodstream to argue that “oh gee, young people just don’t really want to have sex.”

The entire entertainment establishment is concomitantly brainwashing children to remain in a state of arrested development aka infantilization, while conditioning the consumers of this “entertainment” to only find old women attractive. That’s one reason why I believe that we must create Male Sexualist aesthetics – we must reverse the brainwashing done to us by the entertainment complex. The television box is deliberately hiding from you the beauty and the passion of young teenage women, and is actively engineering your mind to only find older women attractive. And yet, despite there being a conspiracy by the entire society to stifle young sexuality, young sexuality lives on and thrives. Well, not really “thrives” — young sex is in decline, which conservative total dipshits blame on pornography rather than pointing the finger at themselves for propagating a climate that is extremely hostile to young sexuality — but it still goes on, to the consternation of all Puritans and Feminists everywhere.

Blue Knights claim that young teenagers are “peer-pressured into sex.” This assumes that your average teenager is asexual or close to being asexual, and thus would only engage in sexual activities if manipulated into it by his or her environment. The reality, meanwhile, is that those 12-year-old sluts who have orgies after school time (or during school time) are often as horny as a 16-year-old male. They are not being pressured into sex – they are being sexually restrained by a society that is terrified of young sexuality.

#3: Young people who have sex grow up to regret it.

First of all, when the whole of society is determined to portray young sex as a horrid thing, it is no wonder that people — especially women, who possess a herd mentality — arrive at the conclusion that they’ve been harmed by it. If young sexuality were presented in a positive light by the media-entertainment-state bureaucracy-academia complex, people would be more inclined to remember it fondly than regretfully.

The second thing is that it doesn’t even matter. People feel regret about doing all kinds of things – so what? Does that mean that for each and every case of such “regret,” society needs to go on a witch-hunt for “victimizers” in order to inflict punishments upon them? It’s time to grow the fuck up and accept the fact that people sometimes do things which later on they regret doing, and that this is an integral part of life, and that the state has no business protecting the civilians from “bad feelings.” That’s literally what this Blue Knight argument boils down to – “the state should punish men because women experience negative feelings due to their own behavior.” No, women should learn to deal with their bad fee-fees without demanding the state to find “abusers” to penalize. We are living in a totalitarian emotocracy (rule by emotions) and I’m sick of it.

Also: what is the difference between feeling regret about fucking at 13 and feeling regret about fucking at 17? Women generally feel bad about promiscuous sex (hence the phenomenon of “regret rape” false accusations), and they feel it at the age of 21 as much as at the age of 11; actually, older women may be even more regretful than young ones about sexual activity, because they’v been longer exposed to Puritan-Feminist brainwashing, and because their biological clock ticks much faster. So, according to the victimization-based morality of Blue Knights, men who sleep with 23-year-olds should also be punished. Again, the Blue Knights want men imprisoned solely due to some vague negative fee-fees felt by some women. This is emotocracy in action. No wonder that testosterone and sperm counts are in sharp decline – society is ruled by catladies, and is structured according to catlady morality.

The state simply should not protect people from the consequences of their own behavior – and here “protect” means “punish men,” and “consequences” means “vague negative fee-fees.” Our society is severely infantilized by the victimization-based morality, and infantilization is degenerate.

#4: Young sexual activity is correlated with many bad things.

That may or may not be so, but what are the implications? Generally, people who are natural risk-takers will do all kinds of things, some of which may be positive, others negative, and still others just neutral. The conservadaddy making the “correlated with bad things” argument implies that punishing men (and women) for young sex would somehow reduce those negative things supposedly correlated with young sex. That, of course, is bullshit. If a risk-taking 12-year-old decides to have an orgy with her classmates, she will remain just as much of a risk-taker whether or not her classmates or other people are punished. Depriving her of the opportunity to take “sexual risks” won’t diminish whatever other risk-taking behaviors she is prone to.

The thing about Blue Knight arguments is that they aren’t arguments at all. There is no logic in stating “young sex is correlated with X, and X is bad” and then using that to support the criminalization of young sex. This is the same logic used by pedagogues to justify pedagoguery, only in reverse: the pedagogues argue that education is correlated with intelligence (as measured by IQ tests), then use that claim to imply that education makes people smarter, and therefore everyone should undergo education. This is a wholly fallacious argument. At the risk of sounding like a spergtastic redditor goon – correlation does not imply causation. The Blue Knight argument is not an argument at all. It’s plainly illogical.

By the way, I’d say that there are plenty of negative things correlated with young sexlessness – such as growing up to be a school shooter, for instance. You’ll never hear Blue Knights discussing that.

#5: Some Statutory Rape legislation allows teenagers to have sex among themselves, and only prohibits older people from predating upon them.

This argument typifies what I call the “victimization-based morality” aka “victimology.” The people making it assume — against all the available evidence — that within any relationship between a young person and an old person, the former is necessarily victimized by the latter.

The individuals making this argument (usually you’ll hear it from women) will often tell you that it is “creepy” for older men to be interested in young women. They will pretend that young women are exclusively attracted to young men, when in reality they are attracted to men of all ages – to men as old as their father as well as to their classmates. My own life experience confirms this, as I personally, in-real-life, know of women who fucked significantly older men when they were aged 14-15. It was all passionate and voluntary and enthusiastic, believe me. And the many accounts you can find on the internet leave no doubt that it’s common for young women, pubescent and even prepubescent, to be sexually attracted to significantly older men.

It is important to stress the point that the women themselves pursue and desire those sexual relationships, because the Blue Knights have created the false impression that the entire argument for abolishing the AOC rests on our attraction to young women, an attraction which according to the Blue Knights is completely unreciprocated; whereas in reality, it is incredibly common for young women to initiate sexual relationships with men as old as their father. It takes two to tango – and the tango is quite lively indeed. Given the sexual dynamics elucidated by Heartiste, wherein women are sexually attracted to “Alphas,” it makes perfect sense that young women would be sexually attracted to older men even more-so than they are sexually attracted to their peers, since older men possess a higher social status than young ones, relatively speaking. Again, life experience confirms this.

Thus, there is no sense in punishing old men who fuck young women, unless, that is, one embraces the whole “taken advantage of” argument, an argument which relies on a denial of the biological and empirical reality on the ground, and simply defines (as an axiom) all relationships in which there is a “power imbalance” as “exploitative.” That is, there is no evidence that any “exploitation” is taking place in such relationships, and Blue Knights assume its existence because they refuse to believe that young women can be horny for older men.

Also, the Blue Knights will bring up argument #1 to “substantiate” argument #5, and argue that due to the “sexual immaturity” of the younger party, the older party must be forbidden from being in a sexual relationship with it altogether – because otherwise there may be “exploitation.” Again, the moment you realize that a 12-year-old female can be as horny as a 16-year-old male (who are, needless to say, extremely horny), the idea that the slut is prone to be “sexually exploited” by a sexual relationship with a man who is statistically likely to be high-status (and thus naturally sexually attractive to her) become absurd. And as we’ve seen, the whole “sexually immature” line is ridiculous – it has never been shown that maturity, for whatever it’s even worth, is reached at 16. In saner, de-infantilized times, 12-year-olds were considered to be mature, were treated as such, and evidently were mature. Hence my saying: “child (and teen) innocence is a self-perpetuating myth.”

#6: You only support abolishing the AOC because you’re a pervert.

A common ad hominem. Now, it is expected that possession of a naturally high sex-drive would be correlated with sexual realism (i.e. being woke about the reality of sex), because a high sex-drive individual would be much likelier than a low sex-drive individual to spend hours upon hours thinking about the subject of sex in its various and manifold aspects. But that only goes to prove that it is us, the “perverts,” who were right all along about sex – and not the catladies and the asexuals who haven’t ever thought about sex in realistic terms because they never had any incentive to do so. Our “bias” is a strength, not a weakness.

There really isn’t anything else to add here. When they accuse you of being a pervert, just agree & amplify humorously: “oh yeah, I jerk off 8 times each and every morning before getting out of bed – problem, puritan?”

#7: You only support abolishing the AOC because you are unattractive and trying to broaden your options.

Also known as “projection.” Well, actually, there also are men who make this argument and not just dried-out wrinkly femihags, so let’s address it as if a man said it. Again, this is an ad hominem that presupposes that your motivation to engage in sexual politics of the Male Sexualist variety is merely your desire to improve your personal situation in life. Now, even if it were true, that 1) wouldn’t matter, because what matters is the arguments made and not the ostensible motivation behind them; 2) there is nothing essentially wrong with trying to improve one’s situation in life – and “there are no rules in war and love.”

By the way, abolishing the AOC, by itself, is not going to get all of the incels laid over-night. There are other measures that must and will be taken to ensure sexual contentment for all of society. Abolishing the AOC is a crucial part of the program, but it’s not the single purpose of Male Sexualism, in my view. What I personally would like to see in society is maximal sexual satisfaction for everyone. There are many ways to try reaching that point.

Anyway, the point is that “you are motivated by a desire to increase your options” is not even true regarding most of the prominent Male Sexualists. Presumably. I won’t speak for anyone else, but I’m married, and very satisfied with my great wife.

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Big Beautiful Women are not for everyone, but I’m cool with it. In this scene from the Israeli film “Tikkun,” my wife — who is an actress — plays a prostitute. Sorry, Nathan Larson, I’m not sending you her nudes; this one should suffice.
As a matter of fact, as I wrote in one of the last posts on DAF, my own kind of activism would not be mentally possible for me if I were not sexually satisfied. I’m not driven by a personal sexual frustration; on the contrary, as I keep saying, what drives me is essentially a spiritual impulse, which has awoken to the extent it has as a result of getting laid.

#8: If you support the abolition of the AOC, it’s because you’re a libertine who believes in “everything goes.”

Some Male Sexualists are, unmistakably, libertines – and proud if it. However, others are faithful Muslims. The notion that opposition to the AOC must necessarily be tied to libertinism is nonsense. Look at traditional European societies 350-300 years ago – almost none had an AOC at all, yet they were hardly “libertines.”

This Blue Knight line is somewhat related to the “LGBTP” meme – they think that we are Progressives trying to advocate for pedophilia as part of a Progressive worldview. I think that it’s safe to say that no one in Male Sexualism belongs to the Progressive camp, which is the camp where Feminists and SJWs reside. That said, some versions of libertinism (sexual libertarianism?) aren’t so bad, anyway. As TheAntifeminist said in a comment at Holocaust21:

[M]y utopia as a male sexualist would be somewhere like 1970’s Sweden or Holland.

This is a legitimate view within the movement.

#9: If young people are allowed to have sex, their innocence will be ruined; sex is exclusively for adults.

Here we see the Enlightenment-spawned Romantic idealization of “childhood” as a period that, due to whatever values one attaches to it, must be preserved against encroachment and incursion from the “fallen world of adults.” This is the Romantic basis of modern-day infantilism.

It used to be understood that the purpose of “childhood” is growing up into adulthood. The so-callef ‘child’ should be made into an adult, should be given adult tasks, adult responsibilities, and — all the sooner — adult rights. Today, society does just the opposite, and infantilizes people with a historically unparalleled intensity. That’s the result of elevating “childhood” into an ideal form. No wonder that now, it’s not just teenagers who are called “children,” but people in their 20s. That’s the process of infantilization which society goes through.

As usual, conservative dipshits, addicted to their own Romantic conceptions, claim that “actually, children are not nearly infantile enough these days.” They don’t see the pervasive “kid culture” that has completely zombified kids into being basically a bunch of drooling retards; no, what the prudish-types care about is “MOAR INNOCENCE,” as usual.

Fact is, kids today are not shown anything about the real world; a whole culture of idiocy, blindness, silliness, and clownishness has been erected like walls all around them. It is the culture of the TV channels for kids, the culture of Toy-Shops, the culture of child-oriented video games. Muh “birds and bees.”

Look, I get the temptation to indulge in infantilism. In fact, I’m probably a hypocrite, because I haven’t yet begun doing anything to de-infantilize my own 19-month-old son. He, like most toddlers, also watches the stupid TV shows and has all of these damn toys all over the place. It’s not easy resisting the ways of the system. But the real problem is that society is not structured in a way that allows children to be de-infantilized. When people only get a job at 18 or at 21 or they are NEETs, and there is an age-ist Prussian School System that is mandatory and which brainwashes its prisoners to believe that “school is good,” and Feminist careerism is pushed on all potential mothers by the media-entertainment-state bureaucracy-academia complex, it’s no wonder that people are very immature nowadays. That only goes to show how radically modern society must be transformed, in my opinion.

To get back on point: “childhood” and “adulthood” are both fictional concepts. These may be useful fictions, but they are still fictions. The telos of childhood is adulthood. It’s a transitional state, and if we must choose an arbitrary age when childhood should be officially and finally over, that age should be 9. That is, if we discover that 10-year-olds behave in an infantile manner nowadays, it’s because their parents — and, crucially, society at large — have not properly de-infantilized them. It’s a wholly artificial state of affairs, rooted in Romantic delusions.

Young people should have sex, because young people should experience real life in order to become functional adults; and an integral part of real life is — and should be — the sex life. Far from constituting a “problem” for young people, sexual intercourse is one effective way for getting young people to see the broader picture of reality. Deprived of sex, ‘kids’ grow up with warped and unrealistic notions about reality, and suffer dysfunction as adults. They don’t get to learn what’s important and what’s unimportant in life when they should learn it – young. Getting laid gives you a mentally clear vision of priorities in life, gives you a clarity of mind which allows you to deeply reflect on what’s actually going on in the world. Sex is necessary for young people, whose one and only task is to — repeat after me — become adults. Sex is a fundamental part of a fulfilled adult life.

#10: Young sex leaves young people traumatized.

No, it doesn’t. The ‘trauma’ stems entirely from being repeatedly and incessantly told by Blue Knights (Puritans, Feminists, Conservadaddies, Catladies, etc.) that a horrible crime has been committed against you by a wicked individual, that you have been “taken advantage of,” “deprived of innocence,” “ruined forever,” “sexually exploited,” “abused,” and the rest of the victimological jargon. The sex itself and the relationship itself feel good, and are indeed good biologically and psychologically; they bring fulfillment to one’s life and a satisfaction for one’s fresh and burning biological needs. The whole “trauma,” such as it is, is inflicted by society on the younger party, due to society’s strict adherence to a victimization-based morality.

That’s why I call for a Moral Revolution. This is not a troll. As long as people adhere to a victimization-based morality that sees “power imbalances” as inherently and fundamentally victimizing, people won’t be able to think logically about young sexuality. The current prevailing system of social morality must be replaced with a new one. Once that is achieved, all of this “trauma” — which is inflicted by the Blue Knights on horny young people — will dissipate and evaporate altogether

Young people greatly enjoy sex, and will go to great lengths to achieve it, overcoming the very many mechanisms of sexual oppression established by Blue Knights.

#11: Young people don’t know what’s good for them, and therefore need to be protected from risky situations.

If young people don’t know what’s good for them, it’s because society itself has successfully destroyed their ability to know what’s good for them. I mean, by the age of 10, a person should have a basic idea about what life is all about. If that’s not so for most or all people, something is deeply rotten in society.

And the reason for this indeed being the modern state of affairs is exactly because the protectiveness of parents, combined with wholesale cultural infantilization, has rendered young people incapable of independent thought. Thus, instead of “MOAR PROTECTION,” young people need infinitely less of it – so that they will learn to deal with reality.

And at any rate, sex is not as risky as the Blue Knights claim it is. They scare people about STDs, but then the solutions to that problem are well-known, and are completely independent of age – if instructed properly, and possessing a responsible personality, a 10-year-old can behave just as carefully — if not much more carefully — than many 40-year-olds.

Then there is the issue of pregnancy. First of all, what I wrote in the above paragraph about responsiblity applies here as well – the pregnancy-avoidance methods are well known. Secondly however, there’s a great differences in here: pregnancy is not a disease. It’s not a bad thing, but a good thing. I support young pregnancy and young parenthood. That is the primary “risk” which Blue Knight scare-mongers warn about, and I don’t see it as a risk at all. Instead of being protected from reproduction, people need to be instructed about how to reproduce. I once wrote, trollishly as usual, that if there should be any schools at all, then the “homework” of young females should be getting impregnated. The essence beneath the statement is on-point: pregnancy is good, because reproduction is good; fertility is good, while sterility is bad.

So, in my view, young people should not be protected from the “risk” of pregnancy. They should be instructed about it, made to comprehend the how’s and why’s of it, and then allowed to use their mind-faculties to figure-out what should or should not be done. That’s the gist of any de-infantilization program.

#12: Young people don’t desire to have sex.

Young people do, as a matter of actual fact, very much desire to have sex; much more-so, even, than many old people.

#13: If the AOC is abolished, parents will no longer be able to control their children.

What is the purpose — the very raison d’etre — of parental control over children? To turn children into functional adults, so as to allow them to form families and continue the bloodline. This cannot be achieved by hindering the ability of children (or “children”) to engage in the one thing that marks the arrival of maturity – sexual activity. Sexual activity is the thing that most unequivocally transforms an un-developed person into a developed person. Since the purpose of parenthood is the creation of adults, parenthood should serve to (at the very least) give-way in face of the natural maturation of children, rather than artificially prolonging “childhood” in order to extend the period of parental control. Parental control is only good insofar as it allows parents to facilitate the de-infantilization of their children; when, as in our deplorable times, parental control is used to exacerbate the infantilization of children, it is in the interest of society to tell parents to fuck off.

Since parents these days abuse their parental power and authority by artificially prolonging the infantilization of their own children, the abolition of the anti-natural AOC is exactly a thing that is needed in order to put parental control in check. The power of parents vis-a-vis their children must be drastically reduced when the child reaches the age of 8. That’s usually the age when sex, reproduction, and marriage all become relevant. If you want to argue that 8 is still too young, perhaps (maybe) we can compromise on 10. Point is, between 8 and 10, parental power should be dramatically restricted.

As a 23-year-old father, I can tell you that parents and family in general continue to significantly shape your life long after you cease being under “parental control.” An abolition of the AOC won’t result in all teenagers running away from home never to be seen again. But it will, God willing, result in the establishment of many new young households. That is something that we should strive for – getting teenagers to form families. That is the meaning of creating adults.

#14: Without an AOC, there will be grey-zone situations of child prostitution.

Child prostitution should be legal.

#15: Abolishing the AOC will increase pre-marital sex, which is a bad thing.

First of all, I couldn’t care less about whether or not sex is “pre-marital.” I had fucked my wife and impregnated her before we were married; so what? What matters is the bottom line: the creation of a patriarchal and stable household.

The second thing is, people today marry extremely late, and many forgo marriage altogether. This is related to the war against young sexuality: not reproducing when young, people struggle to reproduce when old; and living in sexlessness until the late teens or early twenies (or until later than that), a total sexual dysfunction takes over society, and people find it difficult to form long-lasting relationships at all. Young love shines the brightest, the younger the love, the brighter it shines; couples who start young last longer than those who start old.

Puritanical Blue Knights have brought about the plummeting of the TFR in Western Society. In my view, pre-marital sex should be accepted, as long as everyone involved understands that the purpose of any “romance” is the formation of a household. Early teenage marriage should be encouraged, and if early teenage sexual intercourse facilitates that, so be it – it’s all the better. It is not sex that is harmful to young people; sex is good for them. It is sexlessness that is the central and overarching problem of our times.

In conclusion
Man, that was exhausting, I gotta say. But hopefully, this post will serve as a guide to answering Blue Knight talking points. All of you must remember this: before you can annihilate Blue Knightism, you must mentally internalize what it is that we Male Sexualists believe in. In moments of uncertainty and doubt, consult this post, and you may find the core idea needed for you in order to formulate your own Male Sexualist position about any given issue.

There is a new revolution on the horizon. I don’t know how long I personally have left in this world. Perhaps the intelligence operatives threatening me will decide against killing me, or maybe they’ll slay me this very night. Who knows. What I want you to do is to take the ideas provided on DAF and now on TAF, understand them, and spread them. This is not a cult of personality or a money-making scheme. This is a political movement that has its own ideas, ideas that may initially appear groundbreaking but which in reality may also be primordial, ideas which we hope will be implemented in reality – be it 30, 80, or 360 years from now. At some point in the future, somewhere on the face of our planet, there will be a Male Sexualist country.

If during the next half-decade we manage to bring into the fold both edgy 4channers and 8channers (“meme lords”), and serious, intelligent, competent, affluent, deep-thinking, and strategizing supporters, we will be able within several decades to achieve our political objective.

some TERFs #sexist reddit.com

Re: Something I've noticed about transgender dating.

After I dumped my mtf boyfriend for becoming a woman when I'm straight I googled the situation out of curiosity. Maybe I'm biased but this is just something I've noticed. Whenever a wife/girlfriend describes her partner as being transgender people say "just take it one step at a time you may find you're still attracted". Yeah, okay if someone's straight they're NOT going to stay romantically or sexually attracted to someone who's transitioning to be female. *upturned eyes emojis*

But if it's a gay man who's partner is becoming MTF the answers tend to be more honest and practial "you're not compatible just be friends".

I hate to see sexism in absolutely everything but what else would it be?

(1984stardusta)
They will say two things at the same time:

Trans women are women and if lesbians are not attracted to female penises they are not able to love all women, thus they are not true lezbians, but vagina fetishists who hate women in every shapes and forms.

Or trans women are women, if your husband becomes a woman you have to keep loving him, because he is the same person in a different body and love doesn't care, just learn to be a lesbian and change your identity and sexual orientation for love.

In both cases women need to ignore preferences, boundaries and sexual attraction to pander to his needs, lesbians need to become heterosexual and heteros need to become lesbians because his sexuality is more important.

(gfty6789)
Right, imagine the outcry if everyone just started saying "no, you're being a vagina fetisist, go sleep with that penis" to TIMs.

(Cineezyy)
I remember going on one of the subs that discusses trans partners and the majority of posts by females (with a MtF partner) were talking about how they can be supportive to maintain the relationship. While the posts by males (with a FtM partner) were talking about how their dick will no longer get hard.

(1984stardusta)
The burden on the partner is absurd, how can someone condemn natural and healthy sexual drive?

All the pressure to repress sexuality in name of a greater good is regressive. Ignore your feelings, thoughts, preferences and just be nice! Don't be yourself, be kind or you are a murderer, because this person is going to commit suicide unless you agree to everything.

Suddenly, a man or a woman needs to feel aroused by the representation of the opposite of their needs and ignore sexual organs.

What can possibly go wrong?

(butyoucantedit)
I wonder what would happen if lesbians just started openly and happily "indentifying" as vagina fetishists. Cos you're not allowed to ~kink shame, right? Of course I think I know what would happen...

(unfeelingzeal)
"Trans women are women and if lesbians are not attracted to female penises they are not able to love all women, thus they are not true lezbians,"

i'm a bi guy and that's what a trans mod and a trans member over on a sub that shall not be named said to me, in a topic literally asking what the difference was between pan- and bisexuals. i said i'm only attracted to cis men and women and basically got attacked for saying that's bullshit because "you can't tell" who's trans and who's not.

please, get real. not even a majority of trans people are passing.

i've left that community because they're extremely toxic to anything outside of their extremely narrow definitions of sexuality. according to them, i'm either a fake bisexual, a wrong bisexual or i'm a flat out bigot. umk.

(the_lonliest_shibe)
I wouldn't say that your partner "became a woman". Even with all the surgery in the world he will never be a woman - he'll never have a uterus or get pregnant or have XX chromosomes.

I think it's more apt to say that your male partner has decided to imitate a woman, and it's perfectly understandable to not be attracted to the female form if you are straight. Theres nothing that's going to change that and people who try and change your mind on that are delusional. If i tell a straight guy "oh just try being with a man, you could learn to enjoy it" I will get (rightly) yelled at because I'm trying to pressure someone into changing their views and preferences. Yet men do it to us all the time..

I'm a lesbian and I regularly get pressured to date TIMs or men. What TIMs do not understand though is that I'm attracted to women. Not men dressed as women. Breasts and a womanly form are just one aspect of that - I'm also attracted to someone who has gone through the same struggles as I have and has the same out look on the world. And you can never change that with surgery or medicine...

(hostabunch)
Just. More. Male. Bullshit.

Do you really think a gay man is going to keep a partner who doesn't have a penis anymore?

(ChewMyMeatForYou)
As a bisexual, I want to clear something up. I'm not just attracted to both men and women because of their appearance. Universally, confidence is seen as attractive. (Not cockiness or attention-seeking, just pure IamwhoIam confidence.) There are definitely people I meet who are typically attractive, yet lacking confidence, or worse, having too much confidence and too little education.

I have yet to meet a trans person that doesn't place their personal comfort aside or has enough self-esteem to have an awkward-free interaction. If I can't eat a meal with you as a friend, without you doing something that makes me uncomfortable, I'm never going to date you. That goes for the straight men, or gay women I'm interested in.

Living a lie of this is what men sound and look like or vice versa, is exhaustive. Being GNC myself, having PTSD, that's enough work for me to manage navigating life without conflict. Why would I take on someone else's self-esteem conflict, to enhance my life? I'm an adult. It is my responsibility to help myself, not save others.

(LittleOwl12)
AGPs need their long term partners to stick around because for the part, they are unappealing. If not flat out repulsive. One guy on Tumblr braved the storm and explained why he never transitioned: the Uncanny Valley. He rightly pointed out that trying to pretend to resemble something you clearly are not is creepy.

(Babyorlaith123)
I think repulsive is a bit of a strong word but I do agree most transgender people don't pass from my experience (and I've met a LOT due to liberal acquaintances). Usually TIFs don't look the slightest but manly and TIMs are quite ugly and unappealing. Doesn't make them bad people but yeah.

(LittleOwl12)
No, it doesn't make them bad people but I stand by the word repulsive. Some of them really are disconcerting to look at, especially the huge older men squeezing into clothes meant for teenage girls.

I'm not using that word out of spite and I know it's a strong one, but I think it's important for people to understand why transition very rarely "works" the way you want it to.

(Cineezyy)
I’d say repulsive is pretty accurate tbh

(Bananastic)
> okay if someone's straight they're NOT going to stay romantically or sexually attracted to someone who's transitioning to be female

?

Male can't transition to be female. They are still males, some of them decide to use hormones or cosmetic surgery to look more like women, some don't and identify as "butch" transwomen or say they don't have to change anything to be a woman.

You could perfectly still be attracted to a trans woman as a straight woman. The problem is if they physically transition as i suppose you are like most of us both attracted to primary and secondary sex characterisitics in people.

(georgiaokeefesgrotto)
The one woman I know that this happened to stayed in the relationship (last I knew) but told me once that it was like there it was like there was another woman and that woman was more important to him.

It doesn't get better, you did the right thing. You are right as well that women don't generally find the 'new woman' attractive.

rantsofanincel #sexist rantsofanincel.wordpress.com

Happy international cunt’s day

In honor of international cunt’s day this week, I have decided I am going to write another honoring hero’s post. This week, our hero, who is one of the greatest hero’s to ever live IMHO, is George Sodini.

For those who do not recall, George Sodini was a 48 year old incel, who tried everything to find a woman, and got rejected each and every time. He even tried PUA and went to bootcamps, blowing his money to get his head filled with BS advice, which did not work. One day, George got tired of all the rejection and instead of suffering his fate of spending the rest of his life alone, he decided to go and do something about it. George Sodini got revenge by going on a rampage at a gym, shooting up a woman’s fitness class. The only mistake Sodini made, was not racking up a large enough body count. George was a fairly well to do man, having over $250,000 in cash stashed as well as outright owning his own home. Sodini should have used this money to buy some bigger guns, and perhaps, learned to make some bombs to really up the body count. Of course, in the aftermath, once the whining and crying settled, the media started slandering him and twisting his situation by saying he was only after 20 year old women and if he went after women his own age, he would have found somebody. Oh boy, doesn’t this sound familiar. I suggest you go back and read my post so titled. Anything to take all the blame off the poor wimminz. Any and all responsibility is kryptonite to today’s cunt, almost as much as the incel man is. George Sodini would have gotten rejected if he approached 20 year olds, 30 year olds, 40 year olds, 50 year olds. Maybe if he tried approaching 60 year old women, one would have given him a chance, but even that is doubtful. Bottom line is George Sodini had NO chance with ANY women, since he was introverted, quirky, and was not a badboy or thug. As if all this were not bad enough, to add injury to insult, he had to deal with the mockery from men as well as women of being a 48 year old, never married incel. I know from experience that in the part of the country George Sodini lived in, this alone would exclude you from just about all social gatherings, unless of course, you lie, but sooner or later the truth would come out. Why couldn’t just one girl have given him a chance? Oh, because that would be Ewwww, disgusting, now wouldn’t it cunts? Well, when they were cleaning the contents of your head off the floor, I am sure that some poor aftermath cleaning crew was saying the same thing about you. Well, cunts, enjoy your international women’s day. BTW your so called “strike” made absolutely no difference to the economy. You cunts are only good for one thing, and you know it o!o.

TFH #fundie dalrock.wordpress.com

[Note: this quote is two comments made back-to-back]

What is stunning to me is the total lack of self-awareness. Consider the following :

1) Women are desperate for men to be more attractive. Their desire for this is greater than a man’s desire for an attractive woman, as evidenced by how women want every aspect of society and government to be rigged to favor them in SMV terms. Men are not remotely near the point where they think that everything should assist them in the sexual market (if men were, then at a minimum, we would have a female-heavy immigration policy). Plus, women really do think that unattractive men (the bottom 70-80%) should have many basic human rights stripped from them, while almost no men say that ugly women should suffer the same just for being ugly.

2) Yet women have no idea how to teach men how to become more attractive. Women infact misguide men, without even knowing that they are misguiding them. I have only ever come across 2-3 women who could discuss parts of Game with enough detachment as to instruct a man about it (and that too, only conveying material that men created and published).

3) So forget the fact that men produce almost 100% of all valuable knowledge, and that women are utterly uninterested in subjects that are serious, profound, and move civilization forward. Even that is not as profound as the fact that 99.99999% of women simply cannot teach a man how to do better with women, despite how a woman’s desire for the most attractive men greatly exceeds even a man’s desire for a 10.

Despite all this, women just cannot teach men to be what women want men to be. Women actually give advice to men that makes them repulsive to women. If women had any grasp of their own psychology, they would at least make Game a subject mandated in public schools or whatever.

This is a damning indictment about how incomplete the female psyche is…..

...

In summary, despite the fact that women are more desperate for highly attractive men than even men are from women who are 9s and 10s (as evidenced by how women think this should be the primary purpose of government, the economy, and judicial system), women, almost without exception, are utterly incapable of guiding a man on how to become more attractive. On the contrary, women give terrible advice that makes men repulsive to women, which in turn frustrates women……

Women just don’t understand how women think. To be this inobservant, this incapable of actually guiding men on what women really find attractive, despite how badly women want this…. This makes it impossible to think highly of the female intellect…

No wonder just about every successful society that ever existed realized that ‘tingles’ had to be deprioritized into utter oblivion, because there is just about no greater waste of resources and productivity, and no greater fountain of perverse incentives….

sleazygirlapproacher #sexist #crackpot reddit.com

sleazygirlapproacher:
A woman's CADAVER is the first sign of interest for me, that's not to say I won't get to like her. And "why go for hot women" I go for women I find attractive, that's what a man does. Who's to say an UNATTRACTIVE woman would have more in common with me, than an attractive one?

There ARE lines between genders, btw. The two genders are about as different as can be, whilst being in the same species.

Females are very different to men, not socially, but biologically and that is why there will always be natural gender roles.

very_big_books:
Okay so you clearly don't have any awareness of gender and women. You just showed to everybody why women don't want you. Gender roles are bullshit. Internal differences btw the genders are imaginary and arbitrary as they have changed over the last centuries to represent vastly different norms and expectations, not to mention the variations within cultures of the same era. Read a history book.

Can you imagine having a chat with a woman that doesn't lead to you fucking her? I said to you that you need to engage with women without the goal of getting them naked first before you can actually be seen as someone who is worthwhile. Women do actually have thoughts, ambitions and feelings. If you can't accept that, you really have answered your own questions. Grow some self awareness. Seek therapy. Have a conversation with a woman without calling her a "female" or else live alone and unloved. Your call.

sleazygirlapproacher:
"Gender roles are bullshit." Women aren't hunters, they are nurturers. Men hunt. Women nurture. That is hardcoded in DNA. You can't escape that, no matter how much feminist mental gymnastics you engage in. Men are programmed to act, women are designed to be acted up on. Which is why all of this feminism is making it impossible for men to interact with women.

"Can you imagine having a chat with a woman that doesn't lead to you fucking her?"

I've gone 30 years with barely talking to women, of course I can. I wouldn't even know how to get to fucking her, that's the problem and the source of my rage.

I can't relate to feminine energy.

very_big_books:
I don't know what century you live in. Women are not "designed". Why is it all easy for normal ppl? Why have I never had an issue talking to men on an equal level? Or acting on my own without relying on a man to fix things for me? I've lived alone for the last six years and can easily fix a vaccuum cleaner or attach a shower curtain. You aren't special for having a penis. My vagina doesn't make me a senseless object to be "acted upon". You fail at the most basic level. You don't know the first thing about women and it shows. Engage with one. Talk to her. Listen to her. Don't move in with your bullshit that no educated person would ever believe in.

Most men have a very easy time talking to women. I've only met one dude like you who couldn't look me in the eyes without starting to tell me how inferior I am to him and how much he resents all """females""" for being shitty to men and guess what, he is also an incel. Maybe stop acting like an incel to stop being an incel. You are being provided with solutions to your problem yet you are too stubborn to see them.

sleazygirlapproacher:
If it came down to survival, it is YOU who would be failing at the most basic level, begging a MAN to take you under his wing.

Your biological programming is not suited to finding solutions to problems, I'm not putting you down, it's simply a fact. I've attended approaching women on the street and it never goes well. I've even recorded the reactions I get, to prove my theory.

If it wasn't for my testosterone making me want to do things to a woman's body, I wouldn't be interested in them in the first place.

At the end of the day, all women go for in a men is LOOKS. This is enabled by society, allowing her to chase chad.

If society fell away, women would quickly attach themselves to the most useful man in close proximity, like the leeches they are.

OpinionGenerator #fundie reddit.com


In my experience (psychology studies, published research, own experiences and layman observation) one important aspect is that a 15-year old person has not at all the same means to use a against his/hers 15-year old victim as a 25 year old. Just in terms of average physical strength, possibility to remove the victim from his/hers surroundings by car as well as authority.

Alright, but we're talking about coercion at this point. I'm not arguing that ANYbody should be able to intimidate anybody this way. You're making the mistake of assuming an adult having sex with a minor necessarily involves this. Even if it might be more common in these situations, you're still guilty of ageism.

People don't like to be tricked. If someone gives 10$ to someone else, who asks for it for a bus ride or food, this someone will feel betrayed and/or angry if he/she finds out that the person he/she gave those 10$ used them for drugs instead. It doesn't change anything, they are 10$ poorer and the choice made by the other person doesn't change that. But still a lot of people care.

Agreed, but those people don't go to prison for a long time and their lives aren't ruined by being marked as a sex offender for life.

If your standard is simply that people are being deceived, then you're opening the doors to a ton of new regulations. It has to be something substantial.

In other words, she was playing a game half blind not being aware of all the rules, possibilities and her own rights. Also applies the other way around.

This is not exclusive to older people with younger people though. Should a 30-year old who does this to somebody his age go to prison for using a girl under false pretenses? Seriously, I think if you really understand what we're talking about, it's punishing people for breaking peoples' hearts. That's not a legal matter, that's just ordinary drama.

18 isn't a magic number and the age of consent isn't same in all countries. 25 wouldn't be a bad idea. Or a maturity test. However, I suppose 18 is seen as good enough approximation.

I say we go with a maturity test since age really isn't the issue is it? Most people here are bringing up maturity, experience and reason... why not simply just test for those things? That'd make a lot more sense for other things as well (e.g., driver's license, ability to drink).


A 25 year old and a 15 year old are not on equal footing when it comes to experience, authority, and power

True, but could you apply that to the questions that I asked?

Even when we talk about authority and power, if a 25 year old had sex with a 15-year old without utilizing that, why would it be an issue?

A 25 year old automatically has more power and authority. You can't pretend it doesn't exist.


I'm not pretending it doesn't exist, I'm asking why we assume it's at play.

Or let's look at it another way...

If I'm a super-genius at the age of 25 (let's say I have an IQ of 200) and I use that genius to manipulate a girl of the same age who is below average intelligence (we won't go so far as to say mentally challenged to avoid that conversation), do I deserve to go to prison and be marked as a sexual offender for the rest of my life?


I think I agree with you, but it's a very fuzzy, grey area that I think has to be handled with caution, because it can go in a very ugly direction.

OpinionGenerator • 4y
I agree, but I think the "ugly direction" of which you speak is still outside what we're talking about. Even the OP basically admitted to physical intimidation to make her point, but that's something that is ALWAYS punishable no matter what age you are... it's kind of a cheap way to make her point.

I think the line should definitely be AFTER puberty starts to kick in and past the age of when we teach sex ed, but after that, I don't think it makes sense to punish people when their partner is seeking sex. When I was 13 (actually younger than that TBH), I was ready to go and it'd be a shame to think the women I was fantasizing over would be seen as manipulative for giving me what I wanted at the time.

Again, I think this has to do with society's views of sex. When a guy gets laid, it's awesome. When a girl gets laid, it's a strike and after she's had X amount of those, she's a slut. Why is it that men rarely go through this when they have sex at an early age? Because they're not shamed like women are.

2ndWaveNostalgia #sexist reddit.com

I disagree, and I've read this from other commenters. It strikes me as an inaccurate comparison. It may not feel polite or nice when women on this sub criticize a TIMs appearance when dressed as a woman but it is NOT the same as the ad feminam attacks on women by MRAs or transactivists or transallies. When women here remark on the appearance of men masquerading as women in my opinion it is a reaction to two things. First the lie that people can become the opposite sex, a lie that does irreversible damage to people who are deluded by it, and second that no matter how ludicrously men dress they are entitled not only to unquestioning acceptance as women but also their arguments accorded unquestioned seriousness and weight.

In the photo of Liam "Lily" Maynard, he - an adult teenage male - is dressed like a 12 year old girl. No one I read made any comments attacking him personally. No one said he was an ugly man who became a TIM because he couldn't get laid. The commenters said he looked like a dude, and he does, and that comment is directly responsive to his claim that he is a woman. The commenters criticizing his outfit are reacting to the clear visual assertion that as a TIM he can dress in ways that emphasize his maleness and his TIM-ness and still be accorded seriousness, in a way that no woman would be. If I, as a late middle-aged woman with severe age dysphoria, claimed to be a teenager and dressed as a teenager and expected unquestioning acceptance and respect for my argument, I am confident that those people calling bullshit would comment on my appearance and I think would be right to do so.

We now have a TIM (or alleged TIM- maybe just a woman-hater taking advantage of the current pro-trans ideology social climate) who is a long-haired man wearing an "I punch Terfs" t-shirt. Would it be unladylike or impolite of us to comment on his appearance? I think a man who wants to be actually listened to when he makes the bullshit declaration that he is a woman deserves to be received with incredulity and scorn. If he chooses also to wear "woman-face" he is doubling down, and that is an additional blatant insult to women that says "I can dress like a clown and make ludicrous statements and I will be treated with respect while you can make well-founded objective statements and you will be personally attacked. I have the power, I know it, and I will rub it in your face AND in the faces of the lily-livered politicians and trans-allies."

Miranda Yardley does not "pass" yet I have never seen his appearance criticized here. He is accorded respect, affection, and gratitude for living how he wants honestly, not pretending to be a woman and trampling on the dignity and rights of women. Lastly, I've seen TIMs who dress in a way to fit in with women of their age group and I haven't seen them criticized for their appearance here, whether or not I felt they "passed". And, as people age women and men do begin to resemble each other - I haven't seen anyone here snipe at older TIMs who look like Tambor's Transparent character.

Women here have criticized the porn-actress makeup look some TIMs affect. So what? In my daily travels the only women I see wearing that kind of makeup are teenage girls and women going to clubs, so I think criticizing where these men are getting their ideals of womanhood is legit. So no, I don't think people here are creating/engaging in the same culture as MRAs and transactivists who bash women are engaged in.

SophisticatedBean #sexist reddit.com

Re: Cues of upper body strength account for 70% of the variance in men's bodily attractiveness (Sell et al. 2017)

Funnily, rated strength is correlated very strongly (r ˜ .8) with rated attractiveness (as per title), but attractiveness is only moderately correlated with actual strength (r ˜ .25-.4), so once again likely some amount of Fisherian runaway and fakery at play, i.e. men evolving wide shoulders (presumably without additional muscle mass), merely to look more dominant in order to meet women's preferences that are under runaway selection, and to look more intimidating to other males too…

Closely related study: https://psyarxiv.com/edw4f/

Women are attracted to aesthetic men who appear to be strong in their eyes. Not actual strong men who have Dad bods, wider hips, higher body fat %, short arms etc.

Yes, but the fact that women select by perceived strength so strongly, should imply that actual strength is very important to them (bodyguard hypothesis), because women actually think they choose a strong man.

Then the question is why are women fooled fairly easily by men who appear stronger than they really are, and why do women misjudge strong men as weak on a fairly regular basis. Why didn't women evolve to be more suspicious provided that strength is (presumably) such a critical factor?

One answer is that strength is important, but not as important as it could explain the degree of attraction, rather, Fisherian runway explains why it is such a strong selection criterion (i.e. other females also select men who merely look strong, so passing on this trait to the offspring is beneficial, perhaps more so than actually being strong).

It could also be that the DNA that encodes the brain simply does not have more capacity to differentiate more precisely, and feature detectors for tallness and wide shoulders etc. get the job done to choose a bodyguard.

Another explanation could be that due to a sedentary life style, some men who look strong have the potential to be strong, but are not necessarily strong because they can be lazy nowadays.

Though recent results have struck such a massive blow against the honesty of attractive features about qualities important for survival (health, strength, locomotion efficiency, intelligence etc.), a.k.a. good genes, that I've grown very pessimistic.

I don’t think women are choosing them purely because they perceive them as strong, there’s other variables at play here. They’re choosing them because they’re aesthetic/attractive, and by that, the side product is that these women assume that person is strong, but it isn’t the fact they’re strong that is making women attracted to them, it’s the broad shoulders, low body fat, 6 pack, etc. All things that are seen as conventionally attractive on a man almost everywhere worldwide. Women don’t just want what they’re attracted to, they want what other women are attracted to, it’s almost a status thing.

A man who’s in good shape also oozes confidence and the fact he’s clearly someone who doesn’t lack desire/dedication to be better.

This is actually very analogous to the halo effect regarding intelligence. The correlation between attractiveness ratings and perceived intelligence is also around r = 0.8 (but the correlation with actual IQ is very low, around r = .07-.3).

I'm wondering whether this is related to the ad-hoc explanations that people give when their arms are moved by electrically stimulating neurons in their brains (link). In a similar manner, when some sexually selected circuitry makes someone stare at a beautiful person, the brain finds a plausible explanation in terms of an actually useful quality (moral, intelligence, strength, etc.).

I don’t think women are choosing them purely because they perceive them as strong, there’s other variables at play here.

Not purely, but perceived strength explains the vast majority of it (70%).

broad shoulders, low body fat, 6 pack […] Women don’t just want what they’re attracted to, they want what other women are attracted to, it’s almost a status thing.

Women do copy mate choices, but I'd bet preferences for very specific things like toned muscles etc. are >95% genetically determined and >95% of it evolved by runaway sexual selection, much like antlers and the chicken's comb. Preference for the size of muscles, OTOH has likely actual advantages for survival.

Chateau Heartiste #sexist heartiste.wordpress.com

Dating Market Value Test For Women

UPDATE:

I’ve adjusted the scoring and categories a bit because the test was skewed somewhat toward lower scores. For those who have arguments with my scoring system, understand that it is based on averages. I’m sure everyone knows a 34 year old woman who is just as hot as the average 22 year old girl, but the exceptions don’t make the rules.

And a note on BMI:
I used the 1959 Met Life height-weight insurance charts as guides as they are the most accurate (before American “grade inflation” made obese the new normal). A 5’10” 140lb woman would have a BMI of 20.1, which puts her well within the most desirable BMI category.

*****

If you are a woman, this test will measure your dating market value. The higher the number, the better quality man you can catch. The lower the number, the more likely you will find yourself surrounded by cats. Unlike the male version of this test, here I have added a sliding scale to some of the questions because this better reflects the outsized importance that certain factors have on a woman’s total sexual value.

Guys, you may take this quiz for your girlfriends or wives to see if you have settled for tepid sex once a week or if you always get hard looking at her and never forget her birthday.

1. How old are you?

15 to 16 years old: +5 points
17 to 20 years old: +10 points
21 to 25 years old: +8 points
26 to 29 years old: +3 point
30 to 33 years old: 0 points
33 to 36 years old: -1 point
37 to 40 years old: -5 points
41 to 45 years old: -8 points
46 to 49 years old: -10 points
over 49: you’ve hit the wall. waysa?

2. How important is makeup to your appearance?

It slightly enhances my looks: 0 points
I look like a different woman with makeup: -1 point
I’m a natural beauty. My morning face looks the same as my evening face: +1 point

3. What is your IQ? (This relates tangentially to your ability to connect emotionally with a man.)

Under 85: -1 point
85 to 100: 0 points
101 to 120: +1 point
121 to 145: 0 points
Over 145: -1 point

*****

The following ten questions deal with the physical attractiveness of your body.

4. Your breast size is:

Bee stings up to A cup: -1 point
B cup: 0 points
C cup: +1 point
D cup, naturally firm: +2 points
DD cup, firm: +1 point
E cup and up: 0 points

5. Your breasts look firm and pert when you wear:

A bra: 0 points
An underwire push-up bra: -1 point
Nothing: +1 point

6. How long are your legs in relation to your height?

Long: +1 point
Average: 0 points
Short: -1 point

7. What is the shape of your ass?

Flat: -1 point
Round and fleshy: +1 point
Round, fleshy, and firm: +2 points
Flat and saggy: -2 points
Just average: 0 points

8. How flat is your stomach?

Cutting board flat: +1 point
Slight pouch: 0 points
Muffin top: -1 point
Flabby beer gut and fupa: -10 points

9. How toned are your upper arms?

Very toned, I can see my triceps: +1 point
Average, not flabby: 0 points
If I hold my arm out, I can wobble the fat underneath my upper arm: -1 point

10. How big are your hands?

Delicate piano fingers, proportionally small: +1 point
Average size: 0 points
Manhands: -1 point

11. Where is there hair on your body?

My head and pubic area only: +1 point
I have to shave my legs daily and wax my bushy eyebrows: 0 points
I have dark forearm hair and a mustache: -1 point
Nipples, asscrack, and that giant mole on my back: -2 points

12. Get a tape ruler and measure around your waist and your hips. Divide your waist number by your hip number. This ratio is:

0.65 to 0.75: +1 point
0.55 to 0.64: 0 points
under 0.55: -1 point
0.76 to 0.85: 0 points
0.85 to 0.95: -1 point
over 0.95: -2 points

13. What is your BMI?

(Go here to calculate your BMI. The scoring of female BMI varies somewhat from that of male BMI because aesthetics, not just general health, have to be taken into consideration.)

under 14.1: -10 points
14.1 to 15.0: -5 points
15.1 to 16.5: 0 points
16.6 to 17.4: +3 points
17.5 to 21.0: +10 points
21.1 to 23.0: +3 points
23.1 to 24.5: 0 points
24.6 to 28.0: -5 points
28.1 to 33.0: -10 points
over 33.0: stop taking this quiz. you get nothing! you lose! good day madam!

*****

The next ten questions are the section of the test that measures your facial beauty. Since so much of a woman’s dating market value resides in the appeal of her face, I have chosen to examine some traits in finer detail. To illustrate how very subtle changes in facial characteristics can mean the difference between beautiful and ugly, look at these two photos:

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I do not even have to label these photos because almost all my readers viewing them, men and women, will instinctively know which is the hot girl and which is not. Remember this the next time someone tells you beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

14. On a scale of 1 to 10, how pretty are you?

Note: Do not bother soliciting the opinions of the following people, because they will not give you a truthful answer.

Your family.
Your heterosexual female friends.
Your homosexual male friends.
Your heterosexual male friends who would sleep with you given the chance.

Instead, put your pic up on hotornot and check back in a week. Otherwise, go with what you’ve overheard through the grapevine by people who weren’t your close friends, or suck it up and try to be as honest with yourself as possible. Lesbians will also give you an accurate appraisal as long as it is through a third party and not directly to your face. Use the photos above as guidelines. Adjust your rating based on how close your facial morphology matches one or the other.

0: don’t bothering finishing this test.
1 to 2: -10 points
3 to 4: -5 points
5: -1 point
6: +2 points
7: +5 points
8 to 9: +8 points
10: +12 points

15. How clear is your skin?

No acne, blemishes, or poorly located moles: 0 points
Some combination of the above: -1 point
People are always telling you how silky smooth your skin looks: +1 point

16. Do you have any noticeable deformities?

Yes, minor: -1 point
Yes, major: -10 points
No: 0 points

17. How full are your lips?

Pencil thin: -1 point
Average: 0 points
Juicily plump: +1 point
Weirdly oversized: 0 points

18. How high is your forehead?

Low: -1 point
Average: 0 points
High: +1 point

19. How long is your jawline from ear to chin?

Long: -1 point
Average: 0 points
Short: +1 point

20. How big is your chin?

Small: +1 point
Average: 0 points
Large: -1 point

21. How big is your nose?

Small: +1 point
Average: 0 points
Large: -1 point

22. In proportion to the size of your face, are your eyes:

Large and saucer-like: +1 point
Normal-sized: 0 points
Small and beady: -1 point

23. Is the distance between your eyes:

Wide: +1 point
Average: 0 points
Narrow: -1 point

The bottom line on female facial beauty is that as the lower half of her face becomes smaller and more delicate, making her eyes and cheekbones appear more prominent, the better looking she will be.

*****

The final eleven questions measure your femininity, sexiness, and pleasing personality traits. This is the closest to “game” that women have at their disposal. It isn’t much, which is why the scoring is lowest in this section.

24. You frequently wear sexy lingerie, even when not prepping for a hot date.

Yes: +1 point
Special occasions only: 0 points
Never. Ripped and stained comfy granny panties only: -1 point

25. When someone gets hurt you are the first to ask if they are OK and to deliver aid if needed.

Almost always: +1 point
Occasionally: 0 points
Almost never: -1 point

26. You are highly competitive and often play co-ed team sports.

Yes, and I will throw an elbow if necessary. My shelf is filled with trophies: -1 point
I like to exercise on nice days with one on one sports like tennis: +1 point
I’m competitive with other girls, but not guys: 0 points

27. When a guy approaches you in a bar, regardless of your attraction for him, you:

Smile and look at him: +1 point
Pretend like you don’t notice him coming: 0 points
Frown and tell him you’re talking to your friends before he even gets a chance to say Hi: -1 point

28. On a first date the check arrives for dinner and drinks. You:

Offer to split the check or even pay in full: +1 point
Smile and thank the guy when he pays for the check: 0 points
Forget to thank him after he pays for your ungrateful ass: -1 point

29. You are about to have sex with a guy for the first time. He undresses and his penis is small. Do you:

Tell him how great his cock looks and feels?: +1 point
Say nothing: 0 points
Look surprised and stifle a laugh: -1 point

30. You think blowjobs are:

Great! You give them spontaneously and there’s never any doubt how much you enjoy it: +1 point
An obligation: 0 points
Gross. You gave one after your BF proposed and spit it on his shoes: -1 point

31. Do you do anal?

Yes, and it makes me come to know how much it pleases my man: +1 point
Only when I get really drunk: 0 points
Never. It’s an exit only: -1 point

32. The number of sex positions you have tried is:

3 to 10: 0 points
Missionary and doggy style only: -1 point
I’m a contortionist: +1 point

33. How often do you curse?

I think I said damn once: +1 point
I blurt out fuck and shit a few times a week: 0 points
My mouth is a gutter: -1 point

34. You’d best describe your sense of fashion as:

I’m a label whore: -1 point
I hide my body under baggy tees and ill-fitting jeans: -1 point
I wear casual clothing that flatters my figure: 0 points
I wear stylish clothing on weeknights and I can handle heels over 3 inches: +1 point
My flip flops have my foot imprint in them: -2 points

*****

SCORING

There is a minimum of -83 points and a maximum of 64 points to earn based on the questions asked. The reason the minimum score goes lower than the maximum score goes high is because there are a few things, such as gross obesity, old age, or a major facial deformity, that seriously negatively impact a woman’s overall rating to the point of market extinction.

The scoring breaks down as follows:

-83: You are proof that god does not exist, but that satan does.
-82 to -56: You’re an omega. If it makes you feel better you will have your choice of male omegas to bang.
-55 to -40: The majority of men are disgusted by the sight of you. Your kind will suffer most when our sexbot overlords arrive. Losers hit on you constantly figuring they have a chance.
-39 to -20: You were born to cockblock. But you’ll manage to marry a table scrap.
-19 to -5: Lesser beta. The men you want make fun of you out of earshot. You spend many years learning how to settle for mediocre betas.
-4 to 14: Classic beta. Your hot friends always gets hit on first, but if you really tramp it up you can snag a slightly better than average guy to take you home for a single night of commitment.
15 to 29: Greater beta. More than a few attractive guys will approach you. But if your personality is flawed you risk becoming a pump and dump victim.
30 to 43: You are officially a nascent alpha female. A lot of quality guys will hit on you and you will be able to pick and choose at your leisure. But don’t push it. You’re not quite hot enough to string guys along forever.
44 to 55: You’re a bona fide hottie. Nearly every guy who meets you agrees you are a hottie. So does every girl. This puts you in the top 1% of worldwide womanhood. With great power comes great responsibility, so try to limit the number of men you torture with blueballs and LJFB rejections to fewer than 100 in your social circle. As long as you are not a complete bitch, marriage with a top quality man will come easily to you.
56 to 63: Guys want you, girls want to be you. You are just short of perfection, which paradoxically means you will get hit on more than the super alpha females. You are a player’s greatest challenge, and his greatest reward, because unlike the perfect woman there is still something human about you. Sex, love, security, commitment, easy living… you have it all. Only your demons can defeat you.
64: Super Alpha. The world is yours. Life is an endless parade of joy and excitement. Your power is illimitable… for now.

I hope everyone noticed what was missing from this test:

Your job.
The amount of money you make.
Your accomplishments.
Your social status and number of friends.
Your deep and profound worldview.

Unlike the men who took my Male Dating Market Value test, I do not expect *any* women to be completely honest with themselves taking the Female Dating Market Value test. The female ego is simply way too fragile to absorb the shock of such a brutal self-assessment. Therefore, I will be mentally subtracting 10 points from every woman who posts her score here in the comments.

(Submitter's note: Compare and contrast Dating Market Value Test For Men)

Gurney Halleck #fundie city-data.com

The most important asset a woman brings to a relationship, and which a man has an animal desire for, is sexual access to her body.

The average woman has a considerable advantage over the average man in that nature builds into the average man a greater desire for sexual activity. Consequently the average woman will receive more sexual attention (come ons, glances, etc) than the average man. However, nature doesn't allow women to keep this upper-hand forever: It gives women a number of years (and no more) where they'll be attractive to the greatest number of men they could possibly be attractive to. After this period, the woman is attractive to fewer and fewer men each passing year.

From the ages of 15 to 20, a young woman, on average, is getting more and more attractive. She stops getting attractive at 20, and maintains those looks (if she didn't have any children) for possibly 5 years. And then a gradual decline happens after age 25. Each passing year, she grows attractive to fewer men, until she's in her 50s and basically sexually invisible to nearly all men save perhaps the one who committed to her in the heyday of her youth and attractiveness (the husband she married 25 years earlier). The husband will have "wife goggles" for her because her younger self will have been imprinted on his mind. He will never have trouble seeing the younger woman. However, other men will only see the aging near menopausal woman.

This is why its important for women to make use of their sexual capital and marry early.

The price that women pay for not being burdened with being the ones who have to initiate relationships/make the first move etc is that later on a woman's physical quality degrades such that no one really desires them physically.

Women have an instinctive understanding of all this, which is why they're always limiting the subset of men who they would date to the subset of men who could POSSIBLY find them attractive. For instance, a 42 year old woman will consider dating men in their 40s and 50s, but she won't consider dating men in their 20s or 30s. That's because she knows that for those younger men, she would be competing against late teenagers and women in their 20s and 30s. So she rationalizes her (reasonable) calculation as being a consequence of desiring someone with equivalent/similar life experiences/maturity etc when the reality is that she's simply setting her sights on what she can get.

kikii07 #fundie #sexist reddit.com

#PrettygirlCurse

I just stumbled on a YouTube video of a girl talking about she had 20+ jobs and she wasn't able to fit in because she's pretty and has to deal with catty women. I'm just going to be a bit blunt and correct me if I'm wrong but, I'd take the pretty girl "curse" any day than the torment I go through for being ugly. I understand everything has its advantages and disadvantages but the advantages of being pretty beats the disadvantages. I can't even get a temporary job yet there is someone who can hop scotch from job to job even being a brand embassador? Talk about life on easy mode for these women.

I've gotten more attractive in the last 7 years but before that I was picked on constantly and treated like crap by my peers, particularly men.

My biggest problem now as an "attractive woman" is how annoying it is when guys persistently hit on me. Its not comparable to how shitty it feels the other way around. These people couldn't even begin to imagine how awful it is to be an outcast all because you're not pretty enough. Talk about soul crushing.

I agree with you sis. Also congratulations on maxxing

I hate it when they play the victim. Girl, your entire worth is your looks and yet you somehow think they are a curse??? Lmao, try living a week without them and then tell me how it went.

They know it but will play I don't know what wha wha card

Yeah I may come across as harsh but I really don't give a shit about their apparent #prettygirlproblems. Like I feel a lot of the issues they complain about are exaggerated or rooted more in their individual personalities as oppose to them actually being pretty. From what I've seen women tend to flock to attractive women and want to befriend them, they also automatically find them more trustworthy and give ugly women all the negative connotations of 'jealous, bitter' etc. They also have had so many people treat them with so much kindness that when they encounter somebody who treats them like the average joe, and assume (if it's a woman) that she must be jealous. If it irks them so much when women are catty towards them then they can come together with us and deconstruct lookism to the best of our ability, thus in turn removing capitilism, patriachy and so on. But they won't because they know the pros outway the cons for them.

Tbh most people who I've encountered who have catty, condescending and rude have been pretty women. I think just a quick look online can show numerous pretty women with horrible personalities. They know they have a privilege and I wish we could take that away for a day, and let them see how geniunely awful it is to be an ugly woman.

Sadly when you begin to talk about how badly ugly women are treated they shut their ears wiggle their heads saying nope, it's your problem you have no confidence. I knew this Naomi (light skin) who claimed to be a humanitarian and caring about mental health and individual struggles to be extra likable and I tried to talk about the struggles I face, and she had the "amused" facial expression and told me that all women get the same treatment and ugly girls or their problems are non existent. Mind you while I was telling her about problems that I as an ugly girl go through and others, she had the most unamused facial expression only to act shock in the end. These women know the pros of being attractive outweigh the cons yet they'll play "muh don't know what you are talking about" card. They know it and I respect someone like Cynde Black who acknowledged the fact.

PS: This Naomi lives off a betabuxx as well.. No shit freaking Sherlock.

Give me pretty problems any day

anon1822 #sexist incels.co

In our lives we've seen millions of images of attractive women. On the internet, TV, and even in real life. And yet we'll never get to experience it.

Just think about how insane this is. We'be been bombarded with imagery of sexy and attractive women our entire lives. And yet we'll never get to actually do what a man does with an attractive woman.

At best some of us will "ascend" at 30+ with some used-up hag.

Images of attractive women are all around us, yet for us it's like being shown juicy hamburgers everywhere our entire lives, when at best all we'd ever get are boiled potatoes without salt.

I'll take one of them in a second.

A :heart: FOR ROASTIES !!!!

We'd all "take it", but that's like eating a piece of chewed up gum after being tantalized with sirloin steak your whole life.

Not for me. I have a thing for slutty milfs

That's cause you're imagining this

image

when you'll actually be getting something like this

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((((They)))) are showing us sexy images of foids to psychologically torture people who were born into the Incel Cinematic Universe

It never began

It's pretty insane. Then women want you to believe that they're not flaunting it in front of men to bother them. This society forces you to see sexual imagery. Billboard ads even have Victoria's Secret models on them.

Our whole life from puberty on out was characterized by a terrible omissive violence against us. They fucking made our lives hellish. I hate the left for the destruction they caused and the right for not having done anything besides of proposing its cucked tradcuck chivalrous bullshit as opposed to the left ("see, leftists? You are the real anti-women here")

It is indeed a kind of violence, that's a very interesting perspective. It's cruel and torturous, that's for sure.

there's one way of getting these, but it's through cheating

Ehh, hookers aren't even 1% as satisfying as a real woman wanting to have sex with you. And it's not just because of you actually being desired by a woman that non-hookers are much more satisfying, but there's a lot of other factors that go into it. The feeling of intimacy, the warmness and giddiness, cuddling, making out, trying various positions, falling asleep together etc...

I find 99% of women attractive

I find soup tasty enough too, but it doesn't even compare to a fine ass burger with some fries and pizza.

I didn't mean hookers

The same applies for rape. Rape can never be as satisfying as cuddling with a woman that wants you after you've both had a night of passion.

Anonymous #racist misterpoll.com

Have you ever noticed how BADLY black men want White women?? It's the proverbial "every negro's dream". Despite the quantifiable fact (check the next US Census or this url: http://www.census.gov/population/socdemo/ms-la/tabms-3.txt if you're skeptical) that 95% of people in America marry within their own racial/ethnic group (i.e. Whites w/ Whites, blacks w/ blacks, Asians w/ Asian, latino w/ latino), black men still demonstrate a stronger preference for White women than men from other racial/ethnic groups such as Asian or latino.

People are naturally attracted to people who share their physical characteristics. Although I'm able to appreciate the beauty of women from other racial/ethnic groups, I feel no strong, compelling impulse to reproduce with someone from another race. For example, I can tell you from a personal perspective that a tall White male with blue eyes, fair skin, and light brown/blond hair is going to experience the highest sexual attraction possible to a tall White woman with similar attributes. It's only natural, and similar to the preference that light-skinned negroes exhibit for other light-skinned negroes.

So why DO black men want White women so BADLY??? Poor, pathetic black women spend millions (collectively) every year for products to straighten their hair, EVEN DYEING IT BLOND IN SOME CASES, in an effort to look like a "White woman" so that they can attract and maintain a relationship with a black man. I want to offer some insight into this phenomenon.

1) Fat lips, kinky hair, and broad monstrous noses - While these physical characteristics may understandably be considered attractive in certain areas of Africa, they are considered unattractive to other races. The black men simply don't want to curse their descendents with physical traits that are regarded as unsightly by the dominant races, so they endeavor to dilute their African genetic code with a European genetic code. They want a daughter who looks like Mariah Carey or Vanessa Williams, rather than "Aunt Jemima" or the woman who gave birth to (professional basketball player) Patrick Ewing.

2) What better way to get back at "Whitey" for slavery, elevate your status among the "homeboys", and bolster your negro self-esteem, than to have sex with a White woman!!! Never mind that most of these White women are overweight, ugly, have low self-esteem, or have been rejected by White society for some reason and therefore must "settle" for a black man out of desperation... White is White!!! It still gives a reason for a homeboy to dance and clap in the pews at church and shout "Glorbee Hallelujah!!!". It's just a shame that these homeboys regard black women as "second-rate".

3) Forbidden Fruit - (this matter is somewhat complex) As American adolescents enter puberty, they begin to notice and explore media images (TV shows, movies, magazines) of attractive members of the opposite sex that are used to sell products such as candy, soft drinks, acne medication, clothing and anything else that teenagers can purchase with their disposable income. Because of the fact that America is approximately 75% White, and for obvious economic reasons, most of the images used in the mass media are of attractive Caucasians. This is probably the source of the black man's "fixation" on White women, and ultimately the source of great frustration for the male negro. This frustration is caused by societal pressures on white women to not be "social failures" who date negro men, hence the "forbidden fruit", and because the vast majority of White women are not attracted to negro men for the same reason that White men are usually not attracted to negro women. If you don't believe that White men (horny or not) are not attracted to negro women, consider this... How many WEALTHY White men (who are usually favored by most women of any race) do you see marrying or even dating black women??? The "trophy" has always been a young, attractive White woman, and I guarantee you that this situation will never change.

4) Evolution - Perhaps it's an effort to "evolve" and advance their race. In the black man's estimation, a kid who is 50% white is better than a kid who is 100% black (or has two parents of primarily African genetics). When comparing the number of engineers, doctors, lawyers, scientists, published authors, and successful business professionals who are White verses the number who are black... even Snoop Doggy Dogg could do the math on that one. If the black man wanted black kids, he would pursue a BLACK WOMAN, but knowing that he can never become "white", he does the next best thing. The so-callled "black pride" is sacrificed as the pursuit of the White woman becomes the negro's Holy Grail. The negro males just want to secure for their offspring what they either consciously or subconsciously perceive as "better genetics", i.e. the genetics of better looking or smarter people. If they thought black women were the other half of the "formula" for producing attractive and intelligent children, they would pursue BLACK WOMEN.

If a literate negroid has read this far, he is probably trying to console himself by asserting that White women have sex with black men because of large black genitilia. First of all, ask any gynecologist and he/she will tell you that a woman's vagina comes in a variety of shapes and sizes. Most women do not have a coarse, oversized vagina that needs a freakishly large genitilia to be properly filled. Given that a woman's vagina can expand to accomodate the birth of a baby, and that many women enjoy digital and oral stimulation, size issues are irrelevant. Furthermore, check out any of 10 billion porn sites on the Web, and you'll soon discover that a White man can posess very large genitilia. The myth of the black male genitilia is just that, a myth.

However, other than running and jumping ability, most negro men just don't have much else in which to take pride, so they obsess over their genitilia and live their lives in a state of permanent adolescence. REAL sexual satisfaction has everything to do with an emotional/spiritual connection, and NOTHING to do with the physical aspects of "gettin' a groove on", and this is why most White women avoid black men.

various commenters #racist incels.co

(Popbob)

[LDAR] Stop with the asians like white men meme

Asians like attractive white men, asian women dont like me any more than white, black or hispanic women just because im white. This is a big cope pushed by white incels who hope to have a chance but in reality asian women dont think your sexy or attractive they think you are a subhuman

(NeverSubmit)
White is more attractive to Asians they worship white features

(BlackPillUNC)
So what you're saying is: you have to be attractive to get laid.


What a revolutionary thought. I don't understand why others make up theories to get around that.

(theultimate341)
Another white trying to cope when it’s been proven over and over .

(sadricecel)
Asian women deserve the rope

(Cynistic)
Always whitecels who deny that they have it easy compared to us ethnics.
No empathy at all kek

(rafaelvicuna3)
Cope, a 5/10 white guy is more attractive in the eyes of thirsty asian women than an 7/10 ethnic guy

(theultimate341)
Legit saw a asian with a sub 5 white guy at the store today. Whites have it the easiest out of any race. I’m tired of these guys coping.

(BlkPillPres)
Dude seriously just be fucking honest, you have a racial advantage, if this was an rpg video game it would be like you chose the white race which has a bonus of +10 attractiveness vs asians, its not even funny how much asian women worship white men and white features. Unless you are fucking physically deformed its almost impossible for you not to go to an asian country and get laid.

Heck didn't a guy recently get banned for doing such a thing and then bragging about it. He was average looking, perfect example of a 5/10, and I see him as a 5/10 so imagine what the white roasties in his country of origin see him as, more like a 4 probably. So a 4-5 out of 10 guy can just waltz into an asian country and get laid endlessly and you still want to fucking deny this shit. I literally work with a guy who lived in Canada, and told me most of the girls he dated were asians and it was easy for him to get them, he primarily targeted asians because they "responded better". He's a legit 5/10 white guy. Cut the bullshit please.

(Vitriol)
It depends on your location. If you're in an Asian country and you're an average white guy, if you can't get laid you're a mentalcel. Girls will pick and choose from what's in front of them, and with regard to online dating, they can get a guy 2-3 points higher than them so why settle for just an average white guy if you can get better? It's not difficult to determine why things turn out like they do. If you had the closest equivalent to the SMV of a woman (chad/chadlite) are you going to pick out a pretty, skinny girl, or are you going to pick out a plain jane who is carrying extra weight? The answer is pretty simple.

When a female sees a male with recessed and weak facial bones, that's the equivalent of us seeing an obese female. We just don't want any part in it and neither do they. Development is crucial for a male and millimeters decide your life.

(BlkPillPres)
Wrong, white men are seen almost as a token of "high social status" among asian women, so just being white gives you a leg up, and stop being disingenious, you ask where is your Asian GF, I ask how many asian women did you even attempt to woo...... exactly. Most of you so called white incels don't even do shit and then you say - "seeee, seeeee, look nothing happened, seeee I'm incel". Nothing happened because you didn't put in much effort.

I've tried to court white girls, black girls, asian girls, fat girls, tall girls, stacies out of my league even (got friend zoned hardcore), spanish girls, legit 3/10 girls. Never got laid even once, always ends in a friendzone or just being ignored. Still haven't really stopped trying, most of the white cells here from what I've read probably only target white women, and then use the few failures they have in that department as proof of them being incel, I call bullshit. Black women literally speak about trying to get a white man so they can get a child with some "good hair", white men are fetishized in some shape or form by the women of all other ethnicities.

Like I said, unless you are physically deformed you have no excuse, you are probably the only person keeping you from getting laid, Trying courting black women for once, women of other races, get out of your comfort zone and see if you still fail, but you won't, because then you'd have to admit that you never were incel and were the only thing holding yourself back.

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Yeah I call BS, unless you are physically deformed or your face is really fucked up (the exception to the rule, most men are "average looking", hence the word "AVERAGE"), then you have no excuse and its likely due to your own lack of trying. Even then I'm being lenient because I've see a lot of couples of asian women with BELOW AVERAGE WHITE MALES. Also courting asian women in a western country isn't the same thing as courting asian women in an asian country.

Asian women also see white men as a possible meal ticket, a possible escape from their "shitty lives" in their country of origin, that you may possibly "take her with you". That in itself ups your attraction, especially in poor countries like Thailand or the Philippines.

You have multiple factors that are seen as "desirable traits"
1. European Features - Desired by basically all ethnic women for their children (connected to #2 and #3), especially asians and blacks, l'm black and like I said its a known thing to hear black women say they want a baby with "some good hair", a scrawny nerdy average looking white guy can get a girl that I would have to get buff and "pull thug game" for. Not only that ethnic women ironically tend to hate dark skin (again especially black women), you ever sit amongst a group of black women and listen to them speak about desirable traits, dark skin is almost always used as a -1 in selecting the man, its seen as a negative trait.

2. Perception Of Social Status - Obvious what this one means, being white means you are perceived to be of a higher social class among women, especially among women of other ethnicities, especially among women of other ethnicities in poor countries.

3. Perception Of Wealth - Also obvious, being white makes you be perceived by the women of other races (also your own race in comparison to other ethnic males) as "having money".

4. The Escape Route - The most effective tool in a white man's arsenal in getting laid in ethnic countries (and even your own country), its so effective it works without him even being aware of it. It goes hand in hand with #2 and #3. Women perceive you as a possible escape route from their current life in their poor countries, and fucking you and getting you attached to them increases their chances of you taking them with you back home.

That's just what I can come up with off the top of my head and there's way more and everybody knows about this, but go ahead and pretend like everything I've said here is a lie.

Kings Wiki #sexist en.kingswiki.com

Many bloggers have theorized that men and women have different value in the sexual market place relative to age. This concept is commonly referred to as "sexual market value."

Under this theory, a woman's sexual value is highest from age 18 until about 27 years old. As a woman ages into her 30s and 40s, her sexual market begins to rapidly decline as she ages. In contrast, a man's sexual market value is lowest in his teens and twenties, and then gradually increases as he ages. A man's sexual market value does not peak until he hits approximately 36 years old. As men age into their 40s, the decline is much less rapid than women, in contrast to a woman's more rapid decline. The practical affect is that women stand the best chance of mating with a male whose value is high early in life, while men stand the best chance of mating with a woman whose value is high later in life.

Some have suggested that modern society, which pushes women into traditional careers, is not compatible with the reality of the sexual market value.[1]. By the time American women have graduated college and become established in their career, many are too old to bear children absent serious health risks.[2]. Notably, scientific studies have concluded that women are racing against a biological clock, as having children past the age of 35 is a serious risk.[3]. However, men can have children well into their 40s and 50s. [4]. This would seem to suggest that from an evolutionary, cultural, and biological standpoint, women benefit by bearing children earlier in life, while men benefit by bearing children later in life.

Rollo notes:

Now class, please address your attention to the critical 15-16 year span between a woman’s peak SMV and that of men’s. It should come as no surprise that this span is generally the most socially tumultuous between the sexes. The majority of first marriages take place here, single-motherhood takes place here, advanced degrees, career establishments, hitting the Wall, and many other significant life events occur in this life stage. So it is with a profound sense of importance that we understand the SMV context, and the SMP’s influence as prescribed to each sexes experience during this period.

At age 30 men are just beginning to manifest some proto-awareness of their sexual value, while simultaneously women are becoming painfully aware of their marked inability to compete with their sexual competitors indefinitely. This is the point of comparative SMV: when both sexes are situationally at about the same level of valuation (5). The conflict in this is that men are just beginning to realize their potential while women must struggle with the declination of their own.

This is the primary phase during which women must cash in their biological chips in the hope that the best men they can invest their hypergamy with will not be so aware of their innate SMV potential that they would choose a younger woman (22-24) during her peak phase over her. . . .

The confluence between both sexes’ comparative SMV is perhaps the most critical stage of life for feminine hypergamy. She must be able to keep him ignorant of his SMV potential long enough to optimize her hypergamy. In men’s case, his imperative is to awaken to his SMV (or his potential of it) before he has made life-altering decisions based on a lack understanding his potential.

Every man who I’ve ever known to tell me how he wished he’d known of the manosphere or read my writing before getting married or ‘accidentally’ knocking up his BPD girlfriend has his regret rooted in not making this SMV awareness connection. They tended to value women more greatly than their own potential for a later realized SMV peak – or they never realized that peak due to not making this awareness connection.

J.K. Rowling #transphobia jkrowling.com

This isn’t an easy piece to write, for reasons that will shortly become clear, but I know it’s time to explain myself on an issue surrounded by toxicity. I write this without any desire to add to that toxicity.

For people who don’t know: last December I tweeted my support for Maya Forstater, a tax specialist who’d lost her job for what were deemed ‘transphobic’ tweets. She took her case to an employment tribunal, asking the judge to rule on whether a philosophical belief that sex is determined by biology is protected in law. Judge Tayler ruled that it wasn’t.

My interest in trans issues pre-dated Maya’s case by almost two years, during which I followed the debate around the concept of gender identity closely. I’ve met trans people, and read sundry books, blogs and articles by trans people, gender specialists, intersex people, psychologists, safeguarding experts, social workers and doctors, and followed the discourse online and in traditional media. On one level, my interest in this issue has been professional, because I’m writing a crime series, set in the present day, and my fictional female detective is of an age to be interested in, and affected by, these issues herself, but on another, it’s intensely personal, as I’m about to explain.

All the time I’ve been researching and learning, accusations and threats from trans activists have been bubbling in my Twitter timeline. This was initially triggered by a ‘like’. When I started taking an interest in gender identity and transgender matters, I began screenshotting comments that interested me, as a way of reminding myself what I might want to research later. On one occasion, I absent-mindedly ‘liked’ instead of screenshotting. That single ‘like’ was deemed evidence of wrongthink, and a persistent low level of harassment began.

Months later, I compounded my accidental ‘like’ crime by following Magdalen Burns on Twitter. Magdalen was an immensely brave young feminist and lesbian who was dying of an aggressive brain tumour. I followed her because I wanted to contact her directly, which I succeeded in doing. However, as Magdalen was a great believer in the importance of biological sex, and didn’t believe lesbians should be called bigots for not dating trans women with penises, dots were joined in the heads of twitter trans activists, and the level of social media abuse increased.

I mention all this only to explain that I knew perfectly well what was going to happen when I supported Maya. I must have been on my fourth or fifth cancellation by then. I expected the threats of violence, to be told I was literally killing trans people with my hate, to be called cunt and bitch and, of course, for my books to be burned, although one particularly abusive man told me he’d composted them.

What I didn’t expect in the aftermath of my cancellation was the avalanche of emails and letters that came showering down upon me, the overwhelming majority of which were positive, grateful and supportive. They came from a cross-section of kind, empathetic and intelligent people, some of them working in fields dealing with gender dysphoria and trans people, who’re all deeply concerned about the way a socio-political concept is influencing politics, medical practice and safeguarding. They’re worried about the dangers to young people, gay people and about the erosion of women’s and girl’s rights. Above all, they’re worried about a climate of fear that serves nobody – least of all trans youth – well.

I’d stepped back from Twitter for many months both before and after tweeting support for Maya, because I knew it was doing nothing good for my mental health. I only returned because I wanted to share a free children’s book during the pandemic. Immediately, activists who clearly believe themselves to be good, kind and progressive people swarmed back into my timeline, assuming a right to police my speech, accuse me of hatred, call me misogynistic slurs and, above all – as every woman involved in this debate will know – TERF.

If you didn’t already know – and why should you? – ‘TERF’ is an acronym coined by trans activists, which stands for Trans-Exclusionary Radical Feminist. In practice, a huge and diverse cross-section of women are currently being called TERFs and the vast majority have never been radical feminists. Examples of so-called TERFs range from the mother of a gay child who was afraid their child wanted to transition to escape homophobic bullying, to a hitherto totally unfeminist older lady who’s vowed never to visit Marks & Spencer again because they’re allowing any man who says they identify as a woman into the women’s changing rooms. Ironically, radical feminists aren’t even trans-exclusionary – they include trans men in their feminism, because they were born women.

But accusations of TERFery have been sufficient to intimidate many people, institutions and organisations I once admired, who’re cowering before the tactics of the playground. ‘They’ll call us transphobic!’ ‘They’ll say I hate trans people!’ What next, they’ll say you’ve got fleas? Speaking as a biological woman, a lot of people in positions of power really need to grow a pair (which is doubtless literally possible, according to the kind of people who argue that clownfish prove humans aren’t a dimorphic species).

So why am I doing this? Why speak up? Why not quietly do my research and keep my head down?

Well, I’ve got five reasons for being worried about the new trans activism, and deciding I need to speak up.

Firstly, I have a charitable trust that focuses on alleviating social deprivation in Scotland, with a particular emphasis on women and children. Among other things, my trust supports projects for female prisoners and for survivors of domestic and sexual abuse. I also fund medical research into MS, a disease that behaves very differently in men and women. It’s been clear to me for a while that the new trans activism is having (or is likely to have, if all its demands are met) a significant impact on many of the causes I support, because it’s pushing to erode the legal definition of sex and replace it with gender.

The second reason is that I’m an ex-teacher and the founder of a children’s charity, which gives me an interest in both education and safeguarding. Like many others, I have deep concerns about the effect the trans rights movement is having on both.

The third is that, as a much-banned author, I’m interested in freedom of speech and have publicly defended it, even unto Donald Trump.

The fourth is where things start to get truly personal. I’m concerned about the huge explosion in young women wishing to transition and also about the increasing numbers who seem to be detransitioning (returning to their original sex), because they regret taking steps that have, in some cases, altered their bodies irrevocably, and taken away their fertility. Some say they decided to transition after realising they were same-sex attracted, and that transitioning was partly driven by homophobia, either in society or in their families.

Most people probably aren’t aware – I certainly wasn’t, until I started researching this issue properly – that ten years ago, the majority of people wanting to transition to the opposite sex were male. That ratio has now reversed. The UK has experienced a 4400% increase in girls being referred for transitioning treatment. Autistic girls are hugely overrepresented in their numbers.

The same phenomenon has been seen in the US. In 2018, American physician and researcher Lisa Littman set out to explore it. In an interview, she said:

‘Parents online were describing a very unusual pattern of transgender-identification where multiple friends and even entire friend groups became transgender-identified at the same time. I would have been remiss had I not considered social contagion and peer influences as potential factors.’

Littman mentioned Tumblr, Reddit, Instagram and YouTube as contributing factors to Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria, where she believes that in the realm of transgender identification ‘youth have created particularly insular echo chambers.’

Her paper caused a furore. She was accused of bias and of spreading misinformation about transgender people, subjected to a tsunami of abuse and a concerted campaign to discredit both her and her work. The journal took the paper offline and re-reviewed it before republishing it. However, her career took a similar hit to that suffered by Maya Forstater. Lisa Littman had dared challenge one of the central tenets of trans activism, which is that a person’s gender identity is innate, like sexual orientation. Nobody, the activists insisted, could ever be persuaded into being trans.

The argument of many current trans activists is that if you don’t let a gender dysphoric teenager transition, they will kill themselves. In an article explaining why he resigned from the Tavistock (an NHS gender clinic in England) psychiatrist Marcus Evans stated that claims that children will kill themselves if not permitted to transition do not ‘align substantially with any robust data or studies in this area. Nor do they align with the cases I have encountered over decades as a psychotherapist.’

The writings of young trans men reveal a group of notably sensitive and clever people. The more of their accounts of gender dysphoria I’ve read, with their insightful descriptions of anxiety, dissociation, eating disorders, self-harm and self-hatred, the more I’ve wondered whether, if I’d been born 30 years later, I too might have tried to transition. The allure of escaping womanhood would have been huge. I struggled with severe OCD as a teenager. If I’d found community and sympathy online that I couldn’t find in my immediate environment, I believe I could have been persuaded to turn myself into the son my father had openly said he’d have preferred.

When I read about the theory of gender identity, I remember how mentally sexless I felt in youth. I remember Colette’s description of herself as a ‘mental hermaphrodite’ and Simone de Beauvoir’s words: ‘It is perfectly natural for the future woman to feel indignant at the limitations posed upon her by her sex. The real question is not why she should reject them: the problem is rather to understand why she accepts them.’

As I didn’t have a realistic possibility of becoming a man back in the 1980s, it had to be books and music that got me through both my mental health issues and the sexualised scrutiny and judgement that sets so many girls to war against their bodies in their teens. Fortunately for me, I found my own sense of otherness, and my ambivalence about being a woman, reflected in the work of female writers and musicians who reassured me that, in spite of everything a sexist world tries to throw at the female-bodied, it’s fine not to feel pink, frilly and compliant inside your own head; it’s OK to feel confused, dark, both sexual and non-sexual, unsure of what or who you are.

I want to be very clear here: I know transition will be a solution for some gender dysphoric people, although I’m also aware through extensive research that studies have consistently shown that between 60-90% of gender dysphoric teens will grow out of their dysphoria. Again and again I’ve been told to ‘just meet some trans people.’ I have: in addition to a few younger people, who were all adorable, I happen to know a self-described transsexual woman who’s older than I am and wonderful. Although she’s open about her past as a gay man, I’ve always found it hard to think of her as anything other than a woman, and I believe (and certainly hope) she’s completely happy to have transitioned. Being older, though, she went through a long and rigorous process of evaluation, psychotherapy and staged transformation. The current explosion of trans activism is urging a removal of almost all the robust systems through which candidates for sex reassignment were once required to pass. A man who intends to have no surgery and take no hormones may now secure himself a Gender Recognition Certificate and be a woman in the sight of the law. Many people aren’t aware of this.

We’re living through the most misogynistic period I’ve experienced. Back in the 80s, I imagined that my future daughters, should I have any, would have it far better than I ever did, but between the backlash against feminism and a porn-saturated online culture, I believe things have got significantly worse for girls. Never have I seen women denigrated and dehumanised to the extent they are now. From the leader of the free world’s long history of sexual assault accusations and his proud boast of ‘grabbing them by the pussy’, to the incel (‘involuntarily celibate’) movement that rages against women who won’t give them sex, to the trans activists who declare that TERFs need punching and re-educating, men across the political spectrum seem to agree: women are asking for trouble. Everywhere, women are being told to shut up and sit down, or else.

I’ve read all the arguments about femaleness not residing in the sexed body, and the assertions that biological women don’t have common experiences, and I find them, too, deeply misogynistic and regressive. It’s also clear that one of the objectives of denying the importance of sex is to erode what some seem to see as the cruelly segregationist idea of women having their own biological realities or – just as threatening – unifying realities that make them a cohesive political class. The hundreds of emails I’ve received in the last few days prove this erosion concerns many others just as much. It isn’t enough for women to be trans allies. Women must accept and admit that there is no material difference between trans women and themselves.

But, as many women have said before me, ‘woman’ is not a costume. ‘Woman’ is not an idea in a man’s head. ‘Woman’ is not a pink brain, a liking for Jimmy Choos or any of the other sexist ideas now somehow touted as progressive. Moreover, the ‘inclusive’ language that calls female people ‘menstruators’ and ‘people with vulvas’ strikes many women as dehumanising and demeaning. I understand why trans activists consider this language to be appropriate and kind, but for those of us who’ve had degrading slurs spat at us by violent men, it’s not neutral, it’s hostile and alienating.

Which brings me to the fifth reason I’m deeply concerned about the consequences of the current trans activism.

I’ve been in the public eye now for over twenty years and have never talked publicly about being a domestic abuse and sexual assault survivor. This isn’t because I’m ashamed those things happened to me, but because they’re traumatic to revisit and remember. I also feel protective of my daughter from my first marriage. I didn’t want to claim sole ownership of a story that belongs to her, too. However, a short while ago, I asked her how she’d feel if I were publicly honest about that part of my life, and she encouraged me to go ahead.

I’m mentioning these things now not in an attempt to garner sympathy, but out of solidarity with the huge numbers of women who have histories like mine, who’ve been slurred as bigots for having concerns around single-sex spaces.

I managed to escape my first violent marriage with some difficulty, but I’m now married to a truly good and principled man, safe and secure in ways I never in a million years expected to be. However, the scars left by violence and sexual assault don’t disappear, no matter how loved you are, and no matter how much money you’ve made. My perennial jumpiness is a family joke – and even I know it’s funny – but I pray my daughters never have the same reasons I do for hating sudden loud noises, or finding people behind me when I haven’t heard them approaching.

If you could come inside my head and understand what I feel when I read about a trans woman dying at the hands of a violent man, you’d find solidarity and kinship. I have a visceral sense of the terror in which those trans women will have spent their last seconds on earth, because I too have known moments of blind fear when I realised that the only thing keeping me alive was the shaky self-restraint of my attacker.

I believe the majority of trans-identified people not only pose zero threat to others, but are vulnerable for all the reasons I’ve outlined. Trans people need and deserve protection. Like women, they’re most likely to be killed by sexual partners. Trans women who work in the sex industry, particularly trans women of colour, are at particular risk. Like every other domestic abuse and sexual assault survivor I know, I feel nothing but empathy and solidarity with trans women who’ve been abused by men.

So I want trans women to be safe. At the same time, I do not want to make natal girls and women less safe. When you throw open the doors of bathrooms and changing rooms to any man who believes or feels he’s a woman – and, as I’ve said, gender confirmation certificates may now be granted without any need for surgery or hormones – then you open the door to any and all men who wish to come inside. That is the simple truth.

On Saturday morning, I read that the Scottish government is proceeding with its controversial gender recognition plans, which will in effect mean that all a man needs to ‘become a woman’ is to say he’s one. To use a very contemporary word, I was ‘triggered’. Ground down by the relentless attacks from trans activists on social media, when I was only there to give children feedback about pictures they’d drawn for my book under lockdown, I spent much of Saturday in a very dark place inside my head, as memories of a serious sexual assault I suffered in my twenties recurred on a loop. That assault happened at a time and in a space where I was vulnerable, and a man capitalised on an opportunity. I couldn’t shut out those memories and I was finding it hard to contain my anger and disappointment about the way I believe my government is playing fast and loose with womens and girls’ safety.

Late on Saturday evening, scrolling through children’s pictures before I went to bed, I forgot the first rule of Twitter – never, ever expect a nuanced conversation – and reacted to what I felt was degrading language about women. I spoke up about the importance of sex and have been paying the price ever since. I was transphobic, I was a cunt, a bitch, a TERF, I deserved cancelling, punching and death. You are Voldemort said one person, clearly feeling this was the only language I’d understand.

It would be so much easier to tweet the approved hashtags – because of course trans rights are human rights and of course trans lives matter – scoop up the woke cookies and bask in a virtue-signalling afterglow. There’s joy, relief and safety in conformity. As Simone de Beauvoir also wrote, “… without a doubt it is more comfortable to endure blind bondage than to work for one’s liberation; the dead, too, are better suited to the earth than the living.”

Huge numbers of women are justifiably terrified by the trans activists; I know this because so many have got in touch with me to tell their stories. They’re afraid of doxxing, of losing their jobs or their livelihoods, and of violence.

But endlessly unpleasant as its constant targeting of me has been, I refuse to bow down to a movement that I believe is doing demonstrable harm in seeking to erode ‘woman’ as a political and biological class and offering cover to predators like few before it. I stand alongside the brave women and men, gay, straight and trans, who’re standing up for freedom of speech and thought, and for the rights and safety of some of the most vulnerable in our society: young gay kids, fragile teenagers, and women who’re reliant on and wish to retain their single sex spaces. Polls show those women are in the vast majority, and exclude only those privileged or lucky enough never to have come up against male violence or sexual assault, and who’ve never troubled to educate themselves on how prevalent it is.

The one thing that gives me hope is that the women who can protest and organise, are doing so, and they have some truly decent men and trans people alongside them. Political parties seeking to appease the loudest voices in this debate are ignoring women’s concerns at their peril. In the UK, women are reaching out to each other across party lines, concerned about the erosion of their hard-won rights and widespread intimidation. None of the gender critical women I’ve talked to hates trans people; on the contrary. Many of them became interested in this issue in the first place out of concern for trans youth, and they’re hugely sympathetic towards trans adults who simply want to live their lives, but who’re facing a backlash for a brand of activism they don’t endorse. The supreme irony is that the attempt to silence women with the word ‘TERF’ may have pushed more young women towards radical feminism than the movement’s seen in decades.

The last thing I want to say is this. I haven’t written this essay in the hope that anybody will get out a violin for me, not even a teeny-weeny one. I’m extraordinarily fortunate; I’m a survivor, certainly not a victim. I’ve only mentioned my past because, like every other human being on this planet, I have a complex backstory, which shapes my fears, my interests and my opinions. I never forget that inner complexity when I’m creating a fictional character and I certainly never forget it when it comes to trans people.

All I’m asking – all I want – is for similar empathy, similar understanding, to be extended to the many millions of women whose sole crime is wanting their concerns to be heard without receiving threats and abuse.

Robin Bright #conspiracy #homophobia #sexist #ufo #fundie ufodigest.com

That Hollywood, which is a district of the city of Los Angeles (L.A.) in the United States of America on the west coast of the continent of North America in the state of California, should be called ‘Babylon’ after the capital city of the Persian Empire, Babylon (c. 4000 B.C.), derives from a description of ‘a woman’, Babylon, by Jesus’ disciple, John, in his apocalyptic Revelation of the future, ‘Mystery, Babylon the great, mother of harlots and of the abominations of the Earth.’ (Rev: 17. 5) Hollywood is called ‘Babylon’ because it’s the capital of the global media Empire of the USA and has been since the first movie was made there by director D. W. Griffith, Old California (1910), before the censorship of the ‘Hays code’ (1934-67), established by President of the Motion Picture Producers Of America (MPPDA), Will Hays, effectively made it impossible for humans to ever learn anything of their own mode of sexual reproduction from mainstream mass media edutainment on the moral grounds that it would encourage adultery.

Christianity, after Jesus ‘Christ’, that is, ‘the chosen’, assured everyone it frowned on adultery severely, and despite Jesus’ leniency: `… women, in love scenes, at all times have `at least one foot on the floor` (in other words, no love scenes in bed).`1 Christianity’s moral stance is based on Jesus’ words to a woman allegedly caught in the act of adultery in the New Testament of the Bible, which Christians believe supersede the Old Testament law and history of the Jewish ‘chosen people’ of God, that is, the Torah and Talmud written in their Hebrew language, ‘Let he that is without sin cast the first stone.’ (John: 8. 7) Because women are capable of sexually reproducing with each other, as the futanarian human species of women’s seed, adultery is what men practice on their race. Moreover, as it seems unlikely that women would ever marry, given the opportunity to be free of their ring slavery in host womb parasitism for war against their species, women aren’t ever adulterate. Consequently, Hollywood’s stance against adultery is a sham designed to suppress women’s seed, because if women were seen to be able to sexually reproduce with each other through the medium of cinema or television, it’d threaten the system of human slavery imposed upon the Earth by an alien rulership.

As 100, 000 women of the human futanarian species of women’s seed could sexually reproduce 1. 5, 000, 000 in 34 years, women are the perfect planetary colonist should their species ever achieve interstellar space travel. However, if they can be prevented from producing enough brainpower to give them the permanent memory through the immortality conferred by medical science to build and maintain the starship technology needed to carry them to the planets amongst the stars of heaven above and beyond the Earth, they’ll remain host womb slaves in parasitism. Although parasitism seems harsh in describing what men do with women, parasitologists use the term ‘parasitoid’ to describe the parasite that emerges from the host to kill it, and that’s what men do in their wars against women’s seed, ‘The dragon was wroth with the woman and went to make war upon the remnant of her seed.’ (Rev: 12. 17) At least since the period of ancient Egypt, men and women have been manufactured as a single male brained creature wearing each other’s clothes as a transvestite for ‘TV war’. In the myth of Ra, the sun god, he’s incarnated as Osiris, who is dismembered by his evil brother, Set. Although the goddess, Isis, remembers him, his phallus can’t be found, so Isis gives him hers, that is, without women’s seed the human race is a TV. Osiris is restored as Horus, ‘the sky god’, because satellite TV is more advanced.

When US President Ronald ‘Ray Gun’ Reagan announced his ‘Strategic Defense Initiative’ (SDI) on March 23, 1982, to establish a ‘ground and space based missile system’, it was labeled ‘Star Wars’ after the 1977 movie, Star Wars IV: A New Hope, featuring a ‘Death Star’ created by the evil Empire of Palatine to orbit planets and kill them, that is, it was an advanced Egyptian satellite TV system. The symbol of ‘the sky god’, Horus, is the hawk, because he has a hawk’s head, and the members of the Republican Party in the United States who’re gung-ho for war are known as hawks, that is, it’s the hawks of war that seek to prevent the human futanarian species of women’s seed from escaping the Earth to colonize the planets.

The actors and actresses in Hollywood are known as ‘stars’, because they are trained to be ‘egoids’. It was ‘the father of psychoanalysis’, Sigmund Freud (1856-1939), that created the term ‘id’ to explain that the unconscious contained material repressed by the conscious mind because of taboo; for example, Christian morality’s taboo against adultery caused society to become sexually repressive to the extent that Africa’s DR Congo discovered a simian immune deficiency virus (SIV) mutation transmitted by homosexuals’ mixing of blood, shit and semen in each other’s anus in 1983. The human deficiency virus (HIV) injected at the base of the spine resulted in acquired immune deficiency syndrome (AIDS), and collapse of the organs of the body, before the brain died. In short, Freudian psychology was the basis for understanding that homosexuality in the human ‘id’ produced an ‘incurable killer disease’ as their ‘biological weapon’ aimed at eradicating the human species, because that’s what Christian morality and homosexuals were for.



Although ‘ego’ was a term used by Freud, it was Carl Jung (1875-1961), a developmental, rather than a repression psychologist, that saw it as a vehicle for individuation through what he called ‘the archetypes of the collective unconscious’. Jung argued that the unconscious of each human individual contained archetypes, that is, images to be found in dreams, art and the imagination, which assisted the development of the ego, that is, consciousness. Where Freud posited a Super-ego that functioned as a censor to repress into the ‘id’ or unconscious, Jung posited a shadow level to the unconscious, corresponding to human instinct, which contained the archetypes. Consequently, it was only necessary to allow the instinctual subconscious shadow to emerge through art, dreams and imagination for ego-consciousness to develop.

Hollywood egos were called stars, because the life of most planets is dependent on their local sun, which for the Earth is its day star, Sol. In other words, actors and actresses were perceived as commensurate with suns in regard to planets, that is, they were their life. What this produced is describable as ‘egoid’, that is, a star’s belief that their ego was greater than that of the planetary consciousness. In simple terms, because men and women are a TV, they’re unable to accept the anonymity of being a woman amongst women’s seed, so they wage war on the human race in order to assert their egoism, which is ego-id, that is, a conflation of Jung’s ego and Freud’s id. For Hollywood unable to celebrate human sexual activity, ‘action’ movies featuring violence against an unnamable horror is usual, although war against women is what its audience are for. Typical is the nucleus of brave heroes fighting against an alien invasion, for example, Independence Day (1996), because it’s a psychological displacement of men’s actual role as aliens invading women’s Earth. In the ID4 movie, actor Bill Pullman has the role of US President Thomas Whitmore who, before an air battle with the alien invader, addresses USAF personnel in the west of the United States’ Area 51 top secret facility, which is 134 km north-northwest of the city of Las Vegas, near Hiko, Tonopah Basin, State Route 318, Lincoln County, Nevada state, a locale where research on alien spacecraft and their occupants has unofficially always occurred:

‘Good morning. In less than an hour, aircraft from here will join others from around the world, and you will be launching the largest aerial battle in the history of mankind. Mankind. That word should have new meaning for all of us today. We can’t be consumed by our petty differences anymore. We will be united in our common interests. Perhaps it’s fate that today is the Fourth of July, and you will once again be fighting for our freedom. Not from tyranny, oppression, or persecution … but from annihilation. We’re fighting for our right to live. To exist. And should we win the day, the Fourth of July will no longer be known as an American holiday, but as the day when the world declared in one voice: We will not go quietly into the night! We will not vanish without a fight! We’re going to live on! We’re going to survive! Today we celebrate our Independence Day!’2

As women are capable of sexually reproducing 15 billion from 1 million in 34 years, even if the age of conception were formally agreed as 16 +, men would have had to have killed a huge number of women in order to be the dominant invading alien creature. However, because Hollywood stars are egoid, that’s what they’re produced for.

theantifeminist #sexist theantifeminist.com

Note the sentence ”with men seeming to prefer women younger than the age of peak fecundity‘. I’ve argued for this for ten years now, putting myself against the Manosphere core assumption that because of the well known ‘scientific fact’ that women peak in fertility around the age of 21, it follows that this is the age most normal men find most attractive in a woman. It has most firmly been enshrined in Manosophere lore by the grandee Rollo Tomassi and his infamous ‘peak sexual market value curve’ graph.

SMV curve Rollo Tomassi

As you can see, he actually claims that a woman reaches her peak sexual market value at the age of 23 (presumably, Tomassi thinks peak female fertility occurs at that age). This always struck me as complete and utter nonsense. A peak fertility of 21 or 23 (if that age is correct, and might not always historically have been so and is likely influenced by age of motherhood itself) means nothing other than it is the age at which women are most likely to give birth at after sex. It might say something important about likely female sexual strategy or preferences, it tells us little or nothing about what age a man would be expected to prefer in a sexual partner. In a society or culture in which some form of mate bonding is the norm, a man who is attracted to 15 year old girls will have a massive advantage over somebody attracted primarily to 23 year old women. Not only is the former choosing a female with far more reproductive years ahead of her, the 15 year old girl is of course far more likely to be a virgin. I’m not a regular reader of Rollo Tomassi, but I can assume he is aware of the importance of the ‘mummy’s baby, daddy’s maybe’ maxim in male evolutionary sexual strategies. Therefore, evolution has produced men to prefer young pubescent girls.

As the quote says, the most optimal mate seeking strategy for men would be to find a female who has only just begun ovulating, or is soon to start ovulating. In other words not yet pregnant, but about to be so (with your sperm if you can capture her heart (or father’s blessing) first). For most of human history, females would be impregnated as soon as they were able to be. On the male side, the winning reproductive lottery ticket goes to the man who is able to attract and keep a girl who is just starting puberty (and preferably other such girls too). Everybody alive today is the genetic result of our ‘paedophile’ sex predator ancestors.

Isn’t it ironic, that this whole paedohysteria over ‘sex predators’ is about stopping men doing what is most natural to them, and most essential to the survival of the human species – mate bonding with young teens?

EquivalentApple & vanny543 #transphobia reddit.com

(EquivalentApple)

Estrogen does slow their aging. They often do look younger than other men their age if they’ve been on it for a while.
Of course, TIMs who pass well enough to look like a woman look old for their age when seen as female. 26 year old semi-convincing TIMs look 46.

(vanny543)

This is definitely true. One of my better male friends used to be a TIM and started hrt when he was 15–because he was so young (far too young) he started genuinely looking like a female over time, but he literally looked like he was a 25 year old woman when he was 16. The exact opposite happens to TIFs.

Various Incels #sexist incels.co

(Ap0calypse)

The most retarded thing I've seen all year

Can you imagine what being a man would be like?

Everyone takes you seriously. Men view you as human, women view you as stronger. You're on the same level of men, women are either scared of you or attracted to you.

Short men don't get discriminated against. Even short men can be leaders of billionaire drug cartels and have a million followers behind him. Look at El Chapo (translated to literally "short guy").

Bald men are viewed as sexy and strong.

Fat men get paid more than fat women, regardless of education or skill. Everyone looks at fat guys as funny and cool, they're friends.

Fat or ugly women are laughed at. Unless it's a pretty face or hot body, what are women good for, right? It's believed that women have no strength unless it's manipulating men, by looks of course. Without that, they belong in the garbage.

That explains the hate non-hot women get.

Women will always know where they stand in terms of looks because men are LOUD. It starts since when you were a child. Boys in elementary school wouldn't play on the playground with you and refuse to touch you in gym class during obligatory square dancing, boys in middle school would call you a monster and hit you, boys in high school would say "that girl is so ugly" when walking past you in the hallways. In your adult life, men will try to use you as a masturbatory pocket pussy while they battle with the fact that they can't get hot girls. What a win.

Not even attractive women are shielded from a man's hatred. Girls get catcalled from creepy 50 year old men at 12 years old and it makes them feel violated. Even if a woman can use her attractiveness to her advantage, when a woman is no longer attractive as she ages, she is thrown away.

Non-hot men don't get that amount of hate. Life would be a lot easier when your worth isn't 100% determined by how you look or how young you are. If it was impossible to get raped if you had biological strength. Is that why FtM exist? I think so.

(Mexicanmanletcel)

Tell me this idiot is trolling...

(radishman)

It's pretty obvious going by the sub.

And LOL @ short men not getting discriminated against. It's one of the few instances that not only is it allowed, but society encourages it.

(Ap0calypse)

short and bald males are discriminated against on the biological level, i swear everytime I go on reddit it gets worse

(Rheinkwell)

- be a foid
- complain about women losing their worth as they age
- don't realize that ugly men never have any worth to begin with

(manicel)

I loled at the comments:

"One day we were standing in the lunch line with friends and my crush was in front of us. He invited my friends to get in line before him, but as I walked up he put his arm to block me and said "only the pretty girls" and laughed with his friend. I'm sure he did this because somebody told him about my feelings. Thanks to my friends who scorned him for it I did not burst out in tears right there and then."

They legit think this kind of thing doesn't happen to ugly guys lmao

(MayorOfKekville)

This is absolutely inter-dimensional quantum stupidity.

Literally every sentence is the exact diametric polar opposite of the truth.

(Wristlet 2)

fuck that whore, she has no idea what unattractive men go through

let's say she's telling the truth and women are scared, rather than disgusted, of ugly males, which I don't believe but ok. what does that change? how is being feared, hated and unloved a good thing?

Reply to manicel’s post:

life fuel tbh, i love it when chads hurt women's feelings

(I.N.C.E.L.S. Boss)

When she talks about men, she refers to the top 0.5% males.
We are not men in their eyes.

(Catharsis)

How the fuck can you be this disillusioned, what is a normal day like in this OP's life that makes them this inept to their own advantages as a female in modern society

(ColdLightOfDay)

Reply to manicel’s post:

The most confusing thing about that is the fact his horrible personality wasn’t enough to stop him being her crush up till that point.

(Insanity)

this is infuriatingly bad, honestly, I am one of the most chill people you'll meet, I couldn't care less about normies, chads and stacies alike thinking looks don't matter and it's all personality, but these femcels that reject incels on a daily basis and then claim that being a man is much easier to perpetuate their victimhood notion and philosophy triggers me on such an insurmountable level, my blood literally starts boiling

How the fuck can you be this disillusioned, what is a normal day like in this OP's life that makes them this inept to their own advantages as a female in modern society

victim mentality I guess, I honestly have no clue how one can be so mentally handicapped, I've seen it all, I've passed through all the stages, atheism, blackpill-ism, nihilism, I don't care whatsoever about normies and their views on looks and how personality matters and what not, I'm used to people being oblivious to the truth, but man, these chad chasing "femcels" really get under my skin

Jamesbond #fundie happierabroad.com

You might call it "Poetic Justice" as the tables are turned on women starting in their mid to late 30's. When women are young (late teens to early 30's) they have men bending over backwards for them (buying them gifts, taking them on vacations, etc.). Then starting in their mid 30's, women start to lose their looks and their power they have over men.

Men on the other hand, have it difficult in the dating scene when they are young. For example, a guy in his 20's who is still living at home won't be able to attract too many women because he is still living at home and probably doesn't have a good paying job. Now fast forward to when this guy is older and in his 30's. He is out living on his own, maybe owns a home, has a nice car and a good paying job. Women who are in his age group (women in their 30's) want like heck to date him but wait he doesn't want to date them because he is interested in younger women only (women in their 20's).

Paybacks are a bitch! These women wouldn't give this guy the time of day when he was in his 20's, living at home, driving an older car and not making a lot of money. Now, these same women are all over him like flies on shit because he is successful. Well guess what, he is not interested in these women because they are not attractive anymore and he is only interested in young attractive women!

Anon #fundie dalrock.wordpress.com

More on women and productivity :

It is not that women *cannot* be productive. It is that they hate being productive. Hence, when a strict boss holds a woman to high standards of productivity, she can often perform, but hates her job and her life. The reason has to do with the biological hardwiring of humans. When a woman in prehistoric times had to be productive, that means she did not have a provider of her own; even the alpha male did not think of her as worthy for a slot in his harem.

That is why when women dominate an industry, productivity drops, as the women are too numerous to be held to productivity. When a woman works in a male-dominated field and has a boss who is not a mangina or whiteknight, and holds her to the same standards as men are held to, she can perform, but hates it.

So in conclusion, it is not that women cannot be productive, it is that they hate it.

Mainländer #pedo #sexist #wingnut #crackpot incels.co

[Serious] It's unacceptable that most women's best years go wasted on fruitless recreative sex with non-seriously commited men

A woman is more attractive to the vast majority of men when she's young. This is a fact and no amount of outrage from Inceltears or any other group can change that. Some men can pinpoint the exact age in which women are the most attractive at 20, 18, 16, or 14, but the fact is, all of those age groups are much, much more attractive on average to men than a 40 or 50 yo woman would be.

What's the logic behind letting women waste their best years fucking random guys on the pill, only settling at 30+? The woman you marry, with whom you're supposed to spend the rest of your life together, having sex only with each other, giving herself to you only after her best youthful years are gone? How are you supposed to even have sweet memories to cherish after you two are older?

To all spinsters reading this: you're supposed to be married for many many years now. Your husband would have decades of happy memories, of the prime of your youth, of your first kiss, of taking your virginity, he would feel love for you even though you're not competition to younger women anymore in terms of objective attractiveness. How is he supposed to feel this if your relationship already starts when you're old, though? You want to compete directly against younger, much more attractive and desirable women without having that framework of memories and history together, since your youth; it's simply impossible. No wonder you get so bitter, unhappy, jealous of younger girls and full of hatred for men that have the balls to admit the fact they're more attracted to younger girls, for many objective reasons.

Edmund_Kemper #wingnut incels.co

[Venting] Bluepilled cucks like IT, white knights, feminazis, normies, etc. are just NPCs who only agree with whatever society says

they all think of themselves as free-thinkers, but they aren't even remotely free-thinkers. they are cowardly faggots who don't have the balls to think for themselves. they think they accept homos and trannies because "it's the right to do" when in reality they only accept them because they're forced to accept them by society. they think women are equal to men because society forces them to think that. they think incels are bad because society forces them to think that. they think attraction to anyone under 18 (or under 21) is pedophilia because society teaches them that and will crucify you if you disagree. they think that curries have just as much SMV as caucasians because they're taught if you disagree you're an evil racist who should be killed. these people only think these things because society teaches them to think these things.

if these faggots lived in the 1950s, they would've HATED gay people and trans people. only a tiny minority of americans back then thought homosexuality was acceptable and if they think they're part of that 1% from back then who would've accepted homos then they're unrealistic retards. In 1958, only 4% of americans approved of interracial marriage. if they lived back then, they would've HATED interacial marriage. they cannot seriously think they'd be part of that 4%. if they lived in the antebellum era, they would've HATED black people and would've had a racial bias against them. if they lived in ancient greece, they wouldn't have any problem with a 30 year old man marrying a 15 yr old foid and most likely would've married a 15 yr old at age 30 if they were male or married a 30 yr old man if they were female.

if they lived in a world where bestiality was accepted, they would accept bestiality and wouldn't wanna be called an evil bestialiphobe by SJWs. if they lived in a world where incest (without pregnancy) was accepted, they would accept it. if they lived in a world where polygamy was normal, they'd accept polygamy. if they lived in nazi germany, only 1% of them would be brave enough to resist hitler. people who think they would've resisted hitler are unrealistic. people who think they'd resist kim-jong-un are unrealistic.

then they see us disagreeing with what society says and they feel threatened. this is why they hate the blackpill and promote the bluepill. they think we live in a fair world where a deformed curry manlet can get a gigastacy

EU Times #racist eutimes.net

New Movement: Blonde Men Mass Impregnate Women

Today we are promoting and pushing the idea of forming a new movement for men, blonde men to be more exact. Blonde Men Mass Impregnate Women or BMMIW for short! This article is going to be very explicit and is only destined for adults so if you are under 18, go ahead and find something else better to do.

It’s all about the numbers boys, brunettes exceed the number of blondes both in the white and non-white world. Blonde hair is beautiful and unique but its numbers is going down rapidly as more and more couples nowadays are mixed. Blondes cannot rely on CHANCE for their survival. Something actively needs to be done about it.

Rarely you see 2 blondes hooking up together anymore in today’s sick world and this is vastly the blonde women’s fault. Mostly they are to blame as they and they only seek to date outside their group. Because of this, blonde men are left out without an option for a blonde woman so they go for brunette women but hey we have a new solution in place. This isn’t about racism and not even about race differences or whatever, it has nothing to do with race. This movement is going to be focusing only on NUMBERS.

Men have something which women do not have. If you are virile, you can impregnate countless thousands of women without loosing anything while women are LOCKED for 9 months. Women can’t do this. Mathematically they can’t more than 50 children in a lifetime even if its child after child. A man’s sperm is just like his piss. He can do it multiple times a day without any loss. Heck he is even getting something out of it: pleasure.

BASIC INSTRUCTIONS

Never reveal who you are, don’t give your real name, use a pseudonym, leave no clues as how they can find you and use a disposable pre-paid SIM card for your phone so that they don’t have your real phone number. Tell no one what you are doing but encourage other blonde men you know to do it. You are gonna learn how to become a ghost, you come, you leave your seed, you pick up your shirt and you leave. A master of disguise, a master of deception. Do not fall in love for they will slow you down. However that is very possible so if you do fall in love with a blonde woman, well marry her, reproduce yourself with her but the door must remain open, if you go on vacations, if you go on business trips by yourself and you get a chance, use it! Continue to impregnate, its cheating and its NOT cheating at the same time, its all for the nation, for your seed and your own wife’s seed as well. If she can’t see it this way she’s a fool, you are doing humanity a good thing and she has you. It not like you’re gonna break up with her for someone else, nope you’re gonna pick up your shirt and go back to your wife. Make sure you do this preferably to women from other cities, towns and maybe even countries. Use some common sense for God’s sake, be cautious. You don’t do this to your neighbors who will then point you in the streets with their fingers and ask your for child support.

Unless you are rich, don’t spend too much money in the process, you may show them that you have a lot of money as women are attracted to money like flies are attracted to shit, but don’t give them any, just buy them a beer or two. And its sexy time! No sexy time? BYE, there’s other women out there!

WHY MASS IMPREGNATION?

Is this moral? Of course not, it is deceptive and non-Christian but honestly WHO CARES at this point? Is it moral when we will all go extinct if we don’t do anything about it? Yes there’s also gonna be collateral damages. Good Christian girls which may not deserve this, blonde girls who would date and marry blonde men but you don’t know that. Due to the statistics you have to assume that all women are bad and all will marry outside of their group. The vast majority of women avoid blonde men like the plague. Its all due to the current culture we live in where the darker you are the better you are. Its the culture of the negro but you can step and shit on this culture all alone by yourself by joining this movement. Go and impregnate hundreds of women, thousands! Duty calls! They want war? They’re gonna get war! If you think this applies to you and you don’t have much success because you are a blonde, go have a tan in the sun and dye your hair black. Trick them! This movement is all about trickery and deception. The master of lies. That’s who you need to become because those sluts out there, they don’t like you pure, they don’t like you when you treat them nice. Nope they want bad boys. Our colleagues from MGTOW are 100% correct in their description of the woman. In some ways we may be a little bit similar to MGTOW but not too much. We are not for abstinence nor for sex with Asian sluts over our own sluts. If anything Asians are ugly as hell. Just remove their make-ups. A white girl without make up is gonna be 1 gazzilion trillion billion upon millions of gazzilions more beautiful than a Asian slut without makeup. Besides, we need to secure our survival and our numbers as blondes. Its just like in the animal world. You are a lion, you go out there and you impregnate all females in your path. Polygamy? Nah… its too little, for the shit we’re in right now, MASS IMPREGNATION! You impregnate them and you leave.

Spare no one! Besides its not like you beat them or something, you just make them a child for God’s sake. It just like in the animal world. The best of males compete for the females and impregnate as many as possible to make sure their seed survives. Some day you when you are old, you are gonna think about it and have a smile on your face, and others will wonder why but you will know that you are the father of hundreds of children. You are a BOSS!

You can even do this if you are married. Your wife doesn’t need to know about it. Morality go to hell, its about survival of the blonde gene and competition between blondes vs brunettes. Brunettes are already having it good, blonde women prefer them, brunette women prefer them, just about anyone prefers brunette men. Basically they don’t need to do anything actively as they are already having it good. So its time blondes have it good too.

Think of it, white countries are going down demographically like no other countries. Soon we may go extinct, all you hear is complain, complain, complain but no one comes out with a solution. Well here’s the freaking solution! This is basically what is already happening in Russia with over 50% divorce rates and guess what their demographics are finally going up in the last years. Their mistake? They marry them, they father them and then they divorce… So many single mothers in Russia… but what’s the point in marrying? Marry but keep who you marry with. Its nice to have someone to grow old with, someone to love, someone to return to after your adventures.

You get to help with the demographics, you bring more children into the world and you have fun at the same time, you are basically a freaking HERO. You are Solomon, you are Genghis Khan. What’s not to like?

WHO TO IMPREGNATE?

Just about anyone capable of carrying the blonde gene. Redheads, blondes should be your top priority but don’t miss out on brunette women as well. Blonde children can come out of them for sure. Chances are over 50%. You may even go for mixed girls like Turks, Greeks, Italians, Spanish, Portuguese, Romanians, Bulgarians, Gypsies, Indians, Iranians, etc. Creampie anyone in your path. Avoid doing it to 100% blacks and Asians as there is no point. They would need to have this happen to them and their children for over 2-3 generations in order to whiten them completely and develop blonde hair. There is simply no point. That is pure waste of time, energy and resources.

This is a famous case from Bulgaria and Greece where a Bulgarian gypsy woman gave a daughter of hers to a Greek gypsy couple, probably for money. Look at those beatutiful pure white, pure blonde and redhead children that came out of that gypsy vagina! Of course asume she’s young and beautiful, well dressed, not like that gypsy woman, old and poorly dressed. Worry not too much about STDs, not not as bad as the media wants to make you think. Its all a scare tactic to make whites go extinct. Asians, Africans have plenty of sex with plenty of women and they have plenty of children ad they don’t worry for a second about STDs. Besides if you worry about some chick, just use a compromised condom, put a needle through it, right in the middle, then unpack and use it normally. If she has any diseases, there are very very very slim chances of her diseased fluids going through your small needle hole and into your penis to infect you. Or simply avoid those you don’t trust.

Do you understand now? Don’t be a retarded racist with 1 active brain cell. Impregnate everyone in your path who is white and border-line white, as in mixed as well. It costs you nothing, you gain pleasure and you spread your seed. You spread the seed of the blondes. When you want to settle down and have to some children you actually know about and raise as your own, that’s a different story, take only a blonde wife and nothing else but for fun and mass impregnation? Everyone in your path except women of totally different races like black African and yellow Asian.

Remember you don’t sacrifice anything, you are not a woman, you do not get yourself locked for 9 months, all you do is just cum. Its like peeing but feeling pleasure while doing it at the same time, though same may feel pleasure while doing the latter as well but its a different kind of pleasure, haha.

HOW TO DO IT?

First of all don’t tell the girls that you are

So heere’s the plan boys. If you are blonde, go out, date and sleep with as many women as possible, make sure you do NOT wear a condom and make sure you release yourself inside of them. There’s plenty of tricks on how to do this. We’ve got 3 methods for you studs out there:

For starters, you can openly talk about it, ask them where they would like you to cum, this is before the sexual act itself. As surprising as this sound to some of you inexperienced men, most women fantasize about releasing your loads inside of them and not in a condom, their mouths, asses or on their breasts. This is all just Hollywood mumbo jumbo. At least 80% of all women secretly hope in their minds that you will creampie them inside their pussies and not somewhere else. Make good use of this, talk to them, make them horny, as horny as you can, then bring it up, at the culmination point “And where would you want me to cum baby?” They are gonna say “inside of me” and then you should ask them “Ohh that’s so hot, I would like that so much, and would you like to remain pregnant? I would really love that! I think that is the hottest thing in the world!” Most would answer “YES!” if they do, then start doing exactly just that. You have to use suggestive thinking, suggest to them what to do and tell them its so hot, they are gonna want to please you and they will end up doing exactly just that.

If you encounter difficulties, just trick them. Use coitus interruptus. Tell them you don’t want a condom because it kills of all the pleasure and you would rather not do it at all than do it with a condom. Tell them you have good control over your junk and you can withdraw right before you ejaculate. Trick them, ejaculate a few drops inside of them then withdraw and ejaculate the rest on their bellies or wherever. Don’t tell them that they have just been impregnated!

If they categorically refuse to have unprotected sex, say ok. Go to the bathroom or have a small needle with you, make sure you make a little hole right in the tip of the condom. It is inevitable, at least a drop will slip into her and impregnate her. When you remove the condom, do it quick and dispose of it quick so that she doesn’t notice anything strange.

CONCLUSION

Naturally some will resort to abortion but its their sin, not yours, you just did what is natural, sex for impregnation not for pleasure. You did what you are meant to do. When animals have sex they don’t use condoms and they don’t pullout right before ejaculating and they also don’t make an abortion. Humans were created with the same purpose, to have sex for multiplying not just for fun. More will keep the babies than you think, if let’s say 30% kept the babies, you did your country, your genes and your self a favor. If you impregnated 1000 women, you just brought 300 children into this world. Be proud of yourself and go find some chicks. Its all for competition and survival of the blonde seed. Its your duty!

Sigmaa #fundie christianforums.com

[Least believable testimony ever]

I’ve seen blind people made to see again. I’ve seen arthritic people, once hunched over, straighten up and heard the loud snaps of their joints as they straighten up. I’ve actually watched the curved spines of those with scoliosis straighten in seconds. I’ve seen a girl with Down’s syndrome delivered. In mere seconds the trademark facial attributes were gone, her speech instantly cleared. I’ve seen an arm restored. Once severed below the elbow, I watched as a forearm, then a wrist, hand, and fingers generated in moments.

I’ve seen plenty of proof that God does exist and is quite active. So much more than even what I’ve mentioned. I understand that you may not have witnessed any of these things but that’s your fault and not mine. God shows Himself to whoever’s watching and doesn’t operate in a vacuum.

Can you show me your proof that He doesn’t exist?

Atavistic Autist #sexist #racist #homophobia incels.co

[JFL] Incels are called "psychopaths" for analyzing society and advocating for a more ethical order, while actual psychopaths are loved by normies and foids

I just came across this thread on le Reddit, which argues that the amount of psychopaths/sociopaths/antisocial people in society is severely underestimated, which is a proposition I would agree with.

But the example the OP uses for unappreciated psychopaths is... us. JFL

Learning how social dynamics operate, especially as it concerns female nature (which our soyciety not only allows but encourages to be totally uninhibited and unrestrained), and detesting it as "brutal" and "cruel" is not psychopathy.

Psychopaths are the ones who prosper in modern society, and are enlivened by brutality and cruelty, not the ones who are victimized by it. The free-for-all environments of the feminist "sexual marketplace" and the capitalist economic marketplace are their playgrounds, where they are the bullies and we are the bullied. By virtue of being as exploitative and parasitic as possible in intent, yet extremely charming in affect, psychopaths automatically excel with foid-bloodsuckers and their equivalents in the social climbing game: rapacious, greedy scum in corporations and manipulative liars in politics.

Just take Pete Butt as an example. He is the front-runner for the Democratic nomination for president, and he is a literal psychopath. Since the age of 6 year old, he has been completely enamored by the need to climb the social ladder and become the most powerful man in the world. Virtually everything he's done in his life has had that end in mind: to build a resume which would qualify him for the presidency, and establish its superficial credentials, while internally he believes in nothing but his own ambitions for the ultimate reigns of authority. He would be the youngest president to ever take office. And normie and foid voters are actually letting him get as close as he is to his goal!

Pete Butt is also gay, something which he did not admit until it became politically expedient for him.

I'm a psychopath for complaining about being lonely, but a dude pummeling his gf every day and all the thugs getting laid are good people.

Yeah okay.

Men scoring higher in psychopathic traits tended to receive higher ratings from women
Brazil, KJ. Forth AE. 2019. Psychopathy and the Induction of Desire: Formulating and Testing an Evolutionary Hypothesis. Evolutionary Psychological Science, pp 1-18. [Abstract]

Women are drawn more than men to nonfiction stories of rape, murder, and serial killers
Vicary AM, Fraley, RC. 2010. Captured by True Crime: Why Are Women Drawn to Tales of Rape, Murder, and Serial Killers? Social Psychological and Personality Science, 1(1): 81-86. [Abstract] [FullText]

Childhood bullies experience greater sexual success than non-bullies
It was found that a greater likelihood of being the perpetrator of bullying behavior was correlated with a greater sexual partner count. However, due to the nature of the study it was impossible to tell if the mediating factor in this relationship was the bullying itself, or the HEXACO personality traits that are associated with a greater likelihood of engaging in this behavior, specifically the trait 'Honesty-Humility', that was found to being generally lower among bullies. This personality trait has also generally been found to be related to the 'dark triad' traits.

Volk AA, Dane AV, Zopito AM, Vaillancourt T. 2015. Adolescent Bullying, Dating, and Mating: Testing an Evolutionary Hypothesis. Evolutionary Psychology. [FullText]
Provenzano DA, Dane AV, Farrell AH, Marini Z, Volk AA. 2017. Do Bullies Have More Sex? The Role of Personality. Evolutionary Psychological Science. [FullText]

Male gang members have dramatically more female sexual partners

Palmer CT, Tilley CF. 1995. Sexual Access to Females as a Motivation For Joining Gangs: An Evolutionary Approach. The Journal of Sex Research, 32(3):213-217. [Abstract] [FullText]
Mocan N, Tekin E. 2006. Ugly Criminals. National Bureau of Economic Research (NBER) Working Paper No. 12019. [FullText]

Male serial killers, terrorists, and rapists receive thousands of love letters from women in prison

Fimrite P, Taylor M. 2005. No shortage of women who dream of snaring a husband on Death Row / Experts ponder why deadliest criminals get so many proposals. SF Gate. [News]
Gurian EA. 2013. Explanations of mixed-sex partnered homicide: A review of sociological and psychological theory. Aggression and Violent Behavior. 18(5): 520-526. [Abstract]

Criminal and anti-social men have more sexual partners and have sex earlier
Ellis L, Walsh A. 2000. Criminology: A Global Perspective, 1st Edition. pp 227: Table 8.11. [References]

Cluster-B personality disorders lead to 3.5x as many sexual partners and more offspring
Guitiérrez et al. (2013) conducted a study in order to determine if the various personality disorder clusters—Type A (Schizoid, Odd), Type B (Narcissistic, Anti-social) and Type C (Avoidant, OCD)—were solely detrimental in terms of life outcomes for the individuals with these personality disorders (PDs), or if they instead presented their sufferers with various potentially adaptive benefits, such as greater sexual and social opportunities.
Namely, those individuals high in type-B personality cluster traits (Narcissism, Anti-Social, Borderline, Histrionic) of both sexes has 3.5x as many mates as low B subjects, with five times as many short-term mates and twice as many long term mates. It was also found that those higher in cluster B had 39% more offspring then those lower in cluster B traits.

Gutiérrez F, Gárriz M, Peri JM, Ferraz L, Sol D, Navarro JB, Barbadilla A, Valdés M. 2013. Fitness costs and benefits of personality disorder traits. Evolution and Human Behavior. 34(1): 41-48.

39% of hospitalized male psychopaths had consensual sex with female mental health staff
Gacono C, Meloy JR, Sheppard K, Speth E, Roske A. 1995. A Clinical Investigation of Malingering and Psychopathy in Hospitalized Insanity Acquittees. Bull Am Acad Psychiatry Law. 23(3): 387-397. [FullText]

Men are attracted to "nice" women, but women are not attracted to "nice" men
Researchers sought to evaluate niceness by defining it as: "a characteristic that may signal to potential partners that one understands, values and supports important aspects of their self-concept and is willing to invest resources in the relationship." In other words, niceness is the degree to which a person understands, values, and supports his partner's identity and values and is willing to put commitment and effort into the relationship. This is also known in psychology as "responsiveness."
The researchers found that men who perceived possible female partners as responsive found them to be "more feminine and more attractive." They also found that when men found women to be responsive, it led to a heightened sexual arousal from the men and greater desire for a relationship.
On the other hand, when women perceived their male partner to be more responsive, they were less attracted to the man.

Birnbaum GE, Ein-Dor T, Reis HT, Segal N. 2014. Why Do Men Prefer Nice Women? Gender Typicality Mediates the Effect of Responsiveness on Perceived Attractiveness in Initial Acquaintanceships. Personality and Social Psychology Bulletin. 40(10): 1341-1353. [Abstract]
Mejia P. 2014. Study Finds That Men Like Nice Women, But Not the Other Way Around. Newsweek. [News]
Judge TA, Livingston BA, and Hurst C. 2012. Do nice guys—and gals—really finish last? The joint effects of sex and agreeableness on income. [Abstract]

Female narcissism reduces marital quality for men, but male narcissism does not for women
It was found that high degrees of female narcissism predicted a decline in marital quality and satisfaction over time. However, male narcissism did not negatively affect marital quality or satisfaction.
This would seem to imply men are greatly bothered by narcissistic wives, but women are not so typically bothered by narcissistic husbands. This conclusion is in keeping with evidence reviewed that women find narcissistic men more attractive and actively seek them as husbands.

Lavner JA, Lamkin J, Miller JD, Campbell WK, Karney BR. 2016. Narcissism and newlywed marriage: Partner characteristics and marital trajectories. Personal Disord. 7(2): 169-79. [Abstract]

Women desiring marriage and commitment are more attracted to narcissistic men
Haslam C, Montrose T. 2015. Should have known better: The impact of mating experience and the desire for marriage upon attraction to the narcissistic personality. Personality and Individual Differences. 82: 188-192. [Abstract]

BRUTAL

Cluster B personaliteehees rule the world. It is up to Cluster Cs with the revolutionary and cleansing spirit of OCD to wipe them all out and build a new ordER.

For their part, Cluster As will establish the new mythology/religion, and what superstitions foid-cattle should believe in.

Ted Bundy was a textbook psychopath but he got tons of women consensually and attracted female attention even after his crimes were brought to light.

Ted Bundy was literally a Republican activist and had his eyes set for a career in law and then politics. But he was too sexually dimorphic for his own good, and simply could not help himself from raping gullible foids to death.

Pete Butt and his innocent, neotenous face (not to mention his homosexuality) is much more suited for a psychopath with political inclinations tbhngl. Even if he was to engage in his sexual fantasies and rape little boys or murder, sodomize, and then cannibalize homeless men, nobody would even deign to investigate it.

Notably, the homosexual psychopath I study in the OP is into rap music:

Do you like rap music? You could be a psychopath

The article argues that this goes to show how neurotypical and normal psychopaths are, and I agree, but I think that it demonstrates the existence of a psychopath-negroid synthesis as well.

Just like ~50% of violent crime in the US is committed by Blacks, ~50% of violent crime is also estimated to be committed by psychopaths. Rap music seems to unite them, and together they commit an overwhelming majority of the violent crime (not all of it, because there is some demographic overlap between them, of course).

''It was convinient'' or in other words, he is just a typical follower. He is just a part of the hive mind and everything what might be considered different than that from the hive mind itself, is dangerous to it and therefore repusled.

The conceit of psychopathic niggers to appropriate autistic terminology and refer to others as "neurotypical" compared to them, and call their pathetic manipulations "masking," is absolutely hilarious.

I cannot wait until they are all put down. There is no place for narcissists and psychopaths in the upcoming ordER. They will learn the spirit of collectivism, cooperation, and solidarity which has heretofore eluded them in their mass graves.

Mack Major #fundie edendecoded.com

"The sacrifices of pagans are offered to demons, not to God, and I do not want you to be participants with demons." 1 Corinthian 10:20

LADIES: make sure you pray over that hair weave before attaching it to your head! In fact I urge you to strongly reconsider if you should even wear it in the first place.

Most of the natural or real weave that's used by women today comes from Asia, where women and men are known to offer their hair as a sacrifice to demonic spirits. In return it's believed the demons will offer them favor and blessings. This practice is called tonsuring.

The hair is then collected and sold to wholesalers who wash, dye and repackage the hair to be sold in beauty stores throughout Europe and America. The longer hair from women sells for more money,and is primarily used as hair extensions and making wigs.

(As a side note: The tonsured hair from men is mostly used to extract a type of amino acid called I-cysteine. It is used in the pharmaceutical, food and vitamin industries; one of its biggest applications is to be used as a flavor enhancer in our food; mainly bread products and bagels.)

Putting it in plain English: many of you right now as you're reading this have hair attached to your head that has been offered as a sacrifice to other gods. You're basically wearing hair that belongs to demons!

Could this be the cause of some of those incubus/succubus/sleep paralysis encounters you've been having? Could this be the thing keeping many of you from a godly relationship? Don't write this off as nonsense!

THINK ABOUT IT: in scripture we are warned against eating food that's been sacrificed to idols:

"But if someone says to you, 'This has been offered in sacrifice,' then do not eat it, both for the sake of the one who told you and for the sake of conscience." [1 Corinthians 10:28]

"You are to abstain from food sacrificed to idols, from blood, from the meat of strangled animals and from sexual immorality. You will do well to avoid these things." [Acts 15:29]

"But I have a few things against you, because some of you hold to the teaching of Balaam, who taught Balak to place a stumbling block before the Israelites so they would eat food sacrificed to idols and commit sexual immorality." [Revelation 2:14]

"But I have this against you: You tolerate that woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophetess. By her teaching she misleads My servants to be sexually immoral and to eat food sacrificed to idols." [Revelation 2:20]

As we can see from the scriptures above. eating food sacrificed to idols coincided with sexual immorality, and was a serious matter for the early church. It was strictly forbidden by the apostles, and taught as prohibition doctrine throughout the whole Church world. But why?

SIMPLY PUT: pagans would practice a form of communion that involved eating meals dedicated to certain gods and deities. The Bible tells us those gods were really demons. But that part was only part of the communion. The other part consisted of sharing one's body with other people via sexual acts of fornication, mutual masturbation, homosexual activity. etc.

By eating and partaking in demonic communion, a person was allowing themselves to become one with the demons being worshiped, in essence allowing themselves to become a vassal for the demonic spirits to inhabit.

The followers of Jesus were told to avoid such meals, because one could not be a partaker of Christ while allowing themselves to be possessed by demons. [1 Corinthians 10:21] This brings us back to the subject of wearing hair that's been sacrificed to idols (demons).

When you purchase and wear hair that's been sacrificed to an idol, you are in essence making yourself one with the demons associated with that idol.

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It is my belief that when you wear hair that's been sacrificed to a demon, you are in essence sacrificing your beauty and presenting yourself as a living sacrifice to the demon that the hair has been sacrificed to.

COULD THIS BE WHY so many women who attach this stuff to their own hair find themselves feeling and acting sexually seductive; and why many others will go crazy to obtain it?

• I've seen videos where women have risked their lives and freedoms just to have this hair.
• I've seen news reports where women all over the country have robbed stores just to steal this hair; where they went dumpster diving just to retrieve the hair that had been discarded in the trash.
• I've read reports of women being shot to death or beat up over this hair.

This causes one to wonder: what is it about this hair that makes a lot of women act a fool just to have it? Why do women act differently when this hair is attached to their own heads? What is in this hair???

I believe we've presented enough evidence to know the answer. For some of you reading this I know it can be disturbing. A lot of you are Christians.

And you're wondering if you have demon-empowered hair attached to your head right now. Or maybe you're wondering how to make what you've just read fit in with your relationship with Jesus Christ. You may even find a defensiveness setting in because I'm challenging one of your sacred cows - your hair.

But I want you to consider something: if women in India, Malaysia and other parts of the oriental world are willing to sacrifice their hair and beauty for gods, isn't your God worth that and more? In other words: are you willing to sacrifice not wearing hair extensions to have a greater walk with Jesus Christ?

I'm not saying you have to give up the hair. Nor am I saying it's mandatory. That is something you will have to allow the Holy Spirit to convince you of. But I am giving you something serious to think about and consider:

If that hair came from Asia, there's a 99% chance it was sacrificed to demons. And I don't know how a Christian can reconcile that without a serious conflict of conscious.

And just in case you thought you were in the clear because you wear Peruvian or Brazilian hair: I talk about the spirituality attached to that hair too, in my ebook DIVA GODDESS QUEEN: which you can download below.

This hair thing is serious! Besides: what's wrong with the hair that God gave you? Why not just go natural? The overwhelming majority of women look better and most confident wearing their own natural hair in my humble opinion. That's what I've always found to be most attractive about a woman's appearance.

One thing is certain: God is requiring that we give all ourselves to Him. He wants us to wholly sell out to Christ, holding nothing back in reserve.

"And so, dear brothers and sisters, I plead with you to give your bodies to God because of all he has done for you. Let them be a living and holy sacrifice--the kind he will find acceptable. This is truly the way to worship him." [Romans 12:1]

"Do not present the parts of your body to sin as instruments of wickedness, but present yourselves to God as those who have been brought from death to life; and present the parts of your body to Him as instruments of righteousness." [Romans 6:13]

I pray that the Holy Spirit will speak into your heart, bringing to life that much needed truth which can make you a stronger, more serious servant of Jesus Christ than you've ever been before. These are the days when the evil one is rolling out his very best. Therefore we need to give God our very best if we're going to make it. And we have to be alert.

John Doe #fundie returnofkings.com

10 Reasons Why Foreign Women Are Better Than American Women

1. American women have unreasonable standards.

They expect you to have a big house in the suburbs and a salary of at least 150,000 dollars from a high status job (e.g. doctor, lawyer, CEO). Foreign women on the other hand, are content with a man, as long as he is a nice person and takes care of her and the family sufficiently.

2. American women have the highest obesity rate out of any other women worldwide.

Look at your average American woman nowadays— she is fat and looks like a hog. American women lose their beauty by age 30 and become very ugly, wrinkled, and fat. Foreign women, on the other hand, take care of themselves, exercise, and generally have very sexy bodies. Foreign women continue to be beautiful and attractive into their 40s, because foreign women take care of themselves and have a much healthier diet than American women.

3. American women see nothing wrong with cheating on her man.

Just look at the culture of America today. Women are glorified for slutty behavior. Foreign women, on the other hand, have not been raised to act like whores. They generally are far more chaste and loyal than the vast majority of American women. This is no doubt due to the more traditional cultures that non-Western countries have.

4. America has the highest rate of divorce in the world.

Considering that 90 percent of divorces are initiated by women, the vast majority of divorces are the woman choosing to leave the man. American women are divorce happy, and will divorce their husbands over extremely trivial reasons. The divorce system in America is also extremely biased in women’s favor, and many women will divorce their husbands simply to “cash out” (to take all of the man’s money and assets). Foreign women, on the other hand, have a much more loyal mindset to their men and won’t just abandon their husband because she read the latest chick book like Eat Pray Love and decides she “needs to find herself.”

5. American women have the worst attitudes in the world.

Pretty much every negative quality you can think of, American women embody it—selfishness, immaturity, narcissism, fake personalities, arrogance, and anger. In short, American women are a real pain in the ass to be around. This is just one of the reasons why I chose to cut all contact and friendship with American women and only maintain friendship with non-American women. Foreign women, on the other hand, are generally pleasant people to be around. They don’t have the massive chip on their shoulders like American women do, and are much more down to earth, humble, and genuine.

6. American women have no sense of humor.

If you tell a joke in front of an American woman, and it is even slightly politically incorrect, it can literally cost you your job. American women tend to be extremely vindictive and they get offended over the slightest things. Foreign women, on the other hand, are much more relaxed and not as psychotic as American women. Even if they do find something offensive, they will generally overlook it and not create a scene. This is because foreign women are not as insecure as American women and don’t feel the need to constantly prove themselves.

7. American women don’t know how to cook.

It’s like American women barely even know how to boil water. A home cooked meal to an American woman means boxed Mac N Cheese or Ramen Noodles. Foreign women, on the other hand, know how to cook complex multi-course dishes. The complexity of Indian cooking or Chinese cooking is something that would take an American woman years to master.

8. American women are more brainwashed by feminism than any other country on earth.

Feminism in America has transformed into a a man-hating movement that is reflected in the attitudes of American women. According to an American woman, “independence” is equal to acting like a spoiled, loud mouthed brat. Foreign women, on the other hand, may support feminism but they have a much more realistic view of what feminism means—equality. Feminism to a foreign woman means simply being treated with respect, instead of wanting to dominate the man, like American women.

9. American women have the highest rate of mental illness by far than any other women on earth.

Let’s face it—American women are pretty screwed up as a whole. They are emotionally unstable, mentally unstable, and suffer from delusions and are out of touch with reality. An American woman is living in her own movie, with herself as the star. And this narcissism is reflected in their mental health, as well. Foreign women, on the other hand, are very mentally stable, and aren’t prone to psychotic outbursts like American women are. Foreign women are much more down to earth and do not suffer from narcissistic delusions of grandeur as a result.

10. American women are superficial and fake.

They expect their men to also be superficial and fake. You have to put on a false image and be someone who you are not just to be considered as acceptable in America. Dealing with American women is exhaustive because of the amount of games you have to play.
Foreign women, on the other hand, are genuinely warm-hearted people and you can just be yourself around them. You don’t have to wear a mask or be a fake person in order to get a foreign woman to like you. That, in the end, is probably one of the best things about foreign women. You can relax and just be yourself and have a genuine relationship with a foreign woman.

Anon #fundie dalrock.wordpress.com

What really stands out is that women are so desperate for a man who actually gives them gina tingles…. there need for this is equal or greater to a man’s need for the world to have more 9s and 10s..

Yet…

Women are utterly incapable of teaching a man how to become more attractive to women. No woman can articulate Game or associated traits to men. Women can only ever mislead men, and any man who does exactly what a woman tells him to do in order to do better with women, will precisely become less attractive to women.

So, even though women are desperate for more attractive men, they cannot understand female psychology well enough to TEACH men anything…

Women are stunningly incapable of self-sufficiency. They cannot even teach men to generate more of what they themselves crave most, and in fact actively misguide men away from it…

No wonder that female unhappiness is a virtual guarantee outside of rare cases of Game and/or strictly patriarchal cultures.

theworstworld #sexist reddit.com

What is depressing for me to think about women is....

There are women who are in to beastiality. There are women who genuinely enjoy fucking animals for Christs sake. And some of them are gorgeous. They would rather fuck smelly hairy dog, drinking disgusting dog semen, then fucking someone like me.

Once when I was on a dog walk with my friend, we met a woman (who was my friend's friend) who cried to my friend that she needs a small young female friend for her small young male dog. I stood there with my small young female dog waiting for her to acknowledge me and/or my dog, but she never did. Then she suddenly started talking about how her dog is too sexual and humps everything and how it's so embarrassing and problematic especially because she has small kids. I told her that she should get that dog fixed, and she looked at me like I was the grim reaper himself: "B-b-but! I-i-i-i could ne-never! That-that's just wrong!" She was like a 5 year-old anime character in a body of a 30 year-old woman.

Most women I've met are strongly against fixing male dogs no matter what, while fixing female dogs is completely okay. Hmm, I wonder why, lol.

greenishdragonfly #sexist reddit.com

I think it has it's history in the black lesbian community, but like many other things has been appropriated and has come to be used very differently by the identity politics, queer theory crowd.

It's to try and lump gay and bi women together on the basis that they're both attracted to women, while erasing the fact that lesbians are lesbians and not bi because they're also not attracted to men. By putting the emphasis on the 'attracted to women' bit and only that, it vanishes half of what it means to be a lesbian, as if the 'not attracted to men' part was less important or unspeakable. This is seen as progressive as it's more 'inclusive'. It breaks up lesbian identity by suggesting that lesbian and bi women's experience of being attracted to women is exactly the same, so no distinction needs to be made between what it means to be a lesbian or bi woman.

Plus wherever I've seen it used, MTTs are considered women, so it bolsters their identity as 'women' who love women. It takes the emphasis off bisexuality and homosexuality (ie that sexual orientation is based on sex) and puts the emphasis on the word 'woman' which we all know has no definite meaning and is an identity up for grabs by anyone who feels like claiming it. /s

In short it's ended up being a lesbian erasing term, like 'queer', that seeks to break down women's boundaries and ability to define their specific experiences, or organise and find community along those specific lines, and therefore have an 'excuse' for not accepting men into their spaces and love lives.

racerealist #fundie racerealist.tumblr.com

(Submitter's note: This could go under almost any category)

Is there place for same sex attraction within the ethno nationalist/fascist community?: With A Focus On Men

There is of course a blatant straight froward answer for that question, but really someone who asks this isn’t asking if there is really a place for them in the movement. They aren’t even asking what the movement thinks of same sex attraction. They already know without doing much of any research what the movement thinks of homosexuality. What they really want to know is why they feel they are attracted to individuals of the same sex. Now the specific reasons for same sex attraction differ slightly between men and women, but the concept and reasonings as a whole remain universal. And because I am a man Id like to focus on mens attraction to other men and leave the explanation of women’s attraction to other women for a woman to explain/write about. Because simply a woman cannot teach a man to be a man as much as a man can teach a woman how to be a woman.

Lets start off with the term bisexual (bi). What does that mean? Well if we use a dictionary and todays definition and uses of sexual orientation it is simply the attraction to both men and women. However as much as it makes things easier for some to define every difference that exists, I don’t recognize the term. So moving forward any attraction to the same sex wether you also like women or not will be defined as homosexual.

My observation of the type of man who has messaged me about this topic over the past year or so have been men who have submerged themselves into the more degenerate side of ethno nationalism. To make it more clear, picture the type of guys/groups when I say “Neo Nazi”. Who do you think of? Yes them. Now those who message me are typically the ones who are beginning to either consciously or subconsciously make a move from the “Neo Nazi” culture to the more “Traditional Nationalist” culture. Something inside them is making them question wether or not homosexuality is a moral or even an effective decision.

First of all, men are tribal by nature, no matter how far you go back until very recently (last 75 years) men have always been able to practice this. Even today they are still tribalistic, the only difference is with how “big” the world is today. Tribalism can be hard to experience. Looking back into tribal societies and even all the up into the 1900’s you find that men did everting with other men. The only time men were really with other women was when they were at home with their families. Men fought, hunted and worked together every day all day. Only really seeing a woman when they went home to their wife. So naturally in todays time our minds still desire that male experience. We as men want to be surrounded alongside men we feel are worthy. Modernity doesn’t allow for this experience. So what begins to happen is men start to look for this wether its via sports, gangs, political groups, etc we crave to be around men we can respect, test and trust.

The problem starts when there is a loss of control of emotions and a misunderstanding of experiences once in an all male environment. Because men don’t get that constant exposure to masculinity often they will begin to think they have feelings or some sort of sexual attraction to another male. The reality is they don’t, however that exposure to masculinity can be overwhelming and you feel this way, because you are confusing admiration and respect for romanticism. Basically in this situation these men feel the same as a woman does when exposed to raw masculinity. With physical attraction being normal in the sense of respect (male to male) its ok to look at a guy and think he’s attractive. All this is, is a form of admiration and respect for the physical shape he’s been able to achieve or the genetics he was gifted at birth. Its important though to know that, thats what you feel and not that you have a “sexual feeling” for him. What you should get from this paragraph is that when around groups of men don’t become confused by friendships or admiration. Failing to recognize this appropriately is number one reason men fall to homosexuality.

To conclude I want to touch on the issue of homosexuality and the desire to also have children. What I mean by this is many have mentioned that they like men, but would still be willing to have babies with a female. The big issue I have with this is its extremely unclear what someone means when saying this? Within the White Nationalist community wether you are pagan, christian, muslim etc. The idea of having kids with random women just to have kids is extremely counter productive. So when I read or hear that a gay man wants to have children all I can assume is that you better be saying you’ve checked you are free of sexually transmitted diseases and you have made the final decision to be straight and start a loving family with a woman you plan on being with forever. Once you choose the family life there is no sleeping around period. Especially with other men. For a white future the nuclear family needs to be the strongest its ever been.

Concerning topics like homosexuality its extremely important that we discuss more often why same sex attraction happens and what we can do to better understand it to precent other men from falling victim.

#homosexuality #bisexual #white nationalism #white nationalist #traditional nationalist #14/88 #14 words #14 codes of the aryan ethic #theracerealistanswers #stop white genocide #white men

Tobias Langdon #transphobia #wingnut #racist #pratt #dunning-kruger unz.com

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Sex and race are, to the left, mere social constructs, abstract systems of delusion and injustice that can be overturned by human will and social engineering. It follows, then, that leftists will support and celebrate men who reject the social construct of sex and claim to be women. And leftists do support and celebrate such men.

Triumph of the Trannies

It also follows that leftists will support and celebrate Whites who reject the social construct of race and claim to be Blacks. But leftists don’t support and celebrate such Whites. Quite the contrary. While Bruce Jenner, a man claiming to be a woman, is worshipped and rewarded, Rachel Dolezal, a White claiming to be a Black, is ridiculed and punished. Steve Sailer and others have drawn attention to this contradiction, but I don’t think they’ve properly explained it.

Why do leftists cheer when men cross the border between the sexes, but jeer when Whites try to cross the border between the races?

I pose those questions deliberately in that form to draw out the links between the left’s love of transgenderism and the left’s love of open borders. The Jewish libertarian Murray Rothbard (1926–95) described this aspect of leftist ideology very well in this passage of an otherwise long-winded and boring essay:

The egalitarian revolt against biological reality, as significant as it is, is only a subset of a deeper revolt: against the ontological structure of reality itself, against the “very organization of nature”; against the universe as such. At the heart of the egalitarian left is the pathological belief that there is no structure of reality; that all the world is a tabula rasa that can be changed at any moment in any desired direction by the mere exercise of human will — in short, that reality can be instantly transformed by the mere wish or whim of human beings. (Egalitarianism as a Revolt Against Nature, Modern Age, Fall 1973)

Rothbard was right in general about leftism, but failed to explain that highly significant exception: why does the “exercise of human will” allow Bruce Jenner and others to become women, but not allow Rachel Dolezal and others to become Blacks?

Sex and race are both aspects of reality, but the left believes that only one of those aspects “can be instantly transformed by the mere wish or whim of human beings.” Why so? I would explain it by supplementing Rothbard’s explanation. Yes, he’s right when he says the left have a magical belief in the reality-transforming power of “human will,” but he doesn’t discuss what happens when there is a clash of wills.

The high and the low

Let’s look at transgenderism first. Men like Bruce Jenner and Jonathan Yaniv (pictured) have “willed” that men can become women and must enjoy unrestricted access to all female spaces. At the same time, some women — the so-called Trans-Exclusionary Radical Feminists or TERFs — have “willed” that men can’t become women and must keep out of female spaces. There is a clash of wills that is settled, for the Left, by the status of the opposing sides. In leftist eyes, the men have higher status than the women, which is why the men’s will prevails and the women’s will is rejected. But hold on, you might be thinking: How can the men have higher status than the women in leftist eyes? It’s easy: the transgender men have cleverly aligned themselves not with men in general, who are indeed of lower status than women, but with homosexual men, who are of higher status than women.

Trangendered men are part of the “LBGTQ+ community,” which lifts them above women in the leftist hierarchy. Take Jonathan Yaniv, the perverted and probably Jewish male, who claims to be a woman and has been suing female cosmeticians in Canada for refusing to wax his fully intact male genitals. If Yaniv spoke the truth, he would admit that he is a heterosexual male who seeks perverted sexual pleasure by passing himself off as a woman and receiving Brazilian waxes or entering female toilets to share tampon tips with under-age girls, etc. Obviously, then, Yaniv can’t admit the truth. Heterosexual men are wicked in leftist eyes and are well below women in the leftist hierarchy. Heterosexual men definitely cannot pass themselves off as women in pursuit of perverted sexual thrills.

Actual authentic lesbians

Yaniv and other “trans-women” must therefore align themselves with homosexuals to pass leftist purity-tests. As trans-women they claim to be members of a sexual minority, which triggers the leftist love of minority-worship. Indeed, Yaniv and some others go further than simply claiming to be women: they claim to be actual authentic lesbians. A pinned tweet at Yaniv’s Twitter account states that he is “One proud lesbian. I’ll never give up fighting for human rights equality. #LGBTQoftwitter.” Yaniv isn’t a lesbian, of course. Real lesbians — that is, real women who are sexually attracted to other real women — quite rightly reject fake lesbians like him, so the fake lesbians exploit leftist ideology again and accuse real lesbians of bigotry and hate.

Feminism has the concept of the “glass ceiling,” whereby women are unjustly prevented by sexist men from reaching the highest positions in politics, business and academia. Inspired by this, the fake lesbians have invented the concept of the “cotton ceiling,” whereby men like Yaniv are unjustly prevented by real lesbians from removing the underwear of said lesbians and having sex with them. Here is a trans-lesbian activist lecturing a sceptical TERF (i.e. Trans-Exclusionary Radical Feminist for those not up on the latest jargon) on the injustices of the cotton ceiling:

Trans women are female. When our female-ness and womanhood is denied, as you keep doing repeatedly, that is transphobic and transmisogynist. As I said earlier, all people’s desires are influenced by an intersection of cultural messages that determine those desires. Cultural messages that code trans women’s bodies as male are transphobic, and those messages influence people’s desires. So cis queer women who are attracted to other queer women may not view trans women as viable sexual partners because they have internalized the message that trans women are somehow male.

The comparison to what cis males say also makes no sense. What trans women are saying is that we are women, and thus should be considered women sexually, and thus be considered viable partners for women who are attracted to women. What cis males are saying is that queer women shouldn’t be exclusively attracted to women, which is completely different. (The Cotton Ceiling? Really?, Femonade blog, 13th March 2012)

It’s not “completely different,” of course. In both cases, people with penises are “saying” (and willing) that real lesbians should have sex with them. In both cases, real lesbians would be encountering the male genitals of real men. But the trans-activist believes in an act of verbal transubstantiation whereby a trans-lesbian possesses a “female penis” that, despite all appearances, is “completely different” to the nasty and objectionable penis of a “cis male.”

Aspects of religious psychology

I use the term “transubstantiation” deliberately. It’s a term from Catholic theology that refers to the supernatural process whereby wafers and wine transform into the flesh and blood of Christ during the celebration of Holy Eucharist by a priest. No physical or scientific test can detect this transformation, and to all appearances the wafers and wine remain unchanged. But traditionalist Catholics will insist that the wafers and wine are now truly Christ’s flesh and blood. If you disagree, you’re probably safe nowadays, but you wouldn’t have been in the past. It was very unwise to openly deny, let alone ridicule, transubstantiation in Catholic nations during the Middle Ages. And disagreements over the concept were central to the murderous hatreds of the Reformation. Those who believed in transubstantiation got very angry when it was denied.

This anger, which is part of the odium theologicum, is an important aspect of religious psychology, whether overt or covert — leftism can in fact be explained as a mutation of Christianity and Judaism. Overt and covert religions gain power by demanding belief in things that defy everyday reality, because such belief is difficult and requires a greater emotional investment. When we invest more in a belief, we have more incentive to protect it more strongly. And it is precisely because concepts like transubstantiation and the “female penis” are absurd that they are powerful. When we have an emotional investment in something we can’t prove, we react strongly when it is denied or ridiculed. That applies even more when we ourselves are subconsciously aware or afraid that our beliefs are baseless or false. Crushing external heresies can be a way of stilling internal doubts.

The “female penis” vs the “unisex brain”

And so religion and other forms of ideology can gain power by their contradictions and absurdities. However, in the clash between transgenderism and feminism, both sides believe in absurdities: the trannies insist on the concept of the female penis, just as the feminists insist on the concept of the “unisex brain,” namely, that there is no genuine difference between male and female brains. These two concepts are both biologically absurd: there is no such thing as a female penis, but there is such a thing as a female brain. However, if transgenderism and feminism are both powered by absurdities, why have trannies been winning the battle over the TERFs? Well, it’s partly because the trannies have the bigger, and therefore better, absurdities. For example, the “female penis” is an obvious absurdity, the “unisex brain” is much less so. Penises are out in the open, after all, whereas brains are hidden behind the skull.

And there is a continuum between a typically male brain and a typically female brain that doesn’t exist between male genitals and female genitals in the vast majority of cases. The psychological differences between men and women are a question of averages and tendencies, but the physical differences are generally stark and obvious (inter-sex individuals are rare). A certain group of trannies also have the stronger male will-to-power and love of battle, which is another reason they are winning the battle with lesbians. All this explains why the left supports and celebrates trannies as they cross the border between male and female. As a sexual minority, they have higher status than ordinary women. As a novel and exhibitionist sexual minority, they also have higher status than lesbians, who also have less will-to-power.

Better than Black

Indeed, as I pointed out in “Power to the Perverts!,” transgenderism has allowed some White heterosexual men to leap above the Black-Jewish lesbian feminist Linda Bellos in the leftist hierarchy. The White men are “transgender” and Bellos, although Black, is a TERF. In current leftism, transgender trumps TERF. Leftists therefore support the border-abolishing White men and not the border-erecting Black woman.

However, leftists would instantly support Bellos if those White men were claiming to be Black rather than female. Leftists want the border between male and female abolished, but not the border between Black and White. Why so? Again I would argue that higher and lower status settle the clash of wills. Rachel Dolezal “willed” that she was Black, while Blacks “willed” that she wasn’t. Dolezal was trying to abolish a border, Blacks were trying to maintain one, so a naïve reading of leftism would say that leftists should support “trans-racialists” like Dolezal just as they support transgenderists like Bruce Jenner. But leftists didn’t support Dolezal, and Blacks easily won the battle of wills. The border between Black and White stayed up, and Dolezal was ridiculed and punished, despite being more convincing as a Black than most transgenderists ever are as women.

{Submitter’s note: Langdon rants on and on… see the source link if you’re really interested about the rest of it}

SkinjobCatastrophe #sexist #racist incels.co

RE: Why I think some men worship non western women.

I think western men are so tired of being treated like crap by western women, especially white women, that they’ll take anything different. They keep hearing about how “traditional” they are which translates to “won’t treat me like trash”. It’s also why they go after Russian women and other races like I'm starting to see Latino women get held up as trad dreams. It’s because they aren’t western and therefore they’re, in the guys mind, different from western white women. It’s why alien or monster girls are so popular. They aren’t human women so they don’t have the same pain associated with human women that men connect to them.

At least in America, more than 70% of women are overweight. That leaves only 30% of women to have a chance at being attractive. The women here act ridiculous. They are entitled, loud and annoying, vindictive, and all around just awful people. Of course, all women have these desires, but in the west they really come out for people to see. Western women also are allowed to pick and choose men much more strictly than in other countries, so that here, even an ugly landwhale is not obtainable by an average guy

From the average dude’s perspective, western women are
-fat and therefore usually ugly
-loud and annoying
-mean
-irrational
-impossible to please
-impossible to get, even the fat and ugly ones
And non western women are
-not fat, generally healthy
-attractive when they are young as well as when they are older
-quiet, peaceful, submissive
-happy with a kind husband
-open to dating/marrying many different kinds of guys
-generally act more feminine

From their perspective, it makes sense to me. Although of course they are wrong about most of these things, one thing is true - the percentage of attractive women in other countries is so much higher, because of the lower rate of being fat, and also because most ethnic women age slower. And they fall in line with being a traditional kind of wife much easier than western women.

I would be pleasantly surprised if I didnt know anything about the rest of the world and then I went somewhere like china or bolivia or turkey and saw a ridiculously high number of attractive women compared to the west

Daniel Silva #fundie quora.com

I’ve never been to a country outside of America, yet I continue to believe other countries exist.

Why? Because people who have experiences in those countries have come back and told the detailed stories of their experiences. They tell what they’ve seen and heard, how the people behave, etc. They bring back souvenirs, pictures, etc. (otherwise known as evidence.)

But if I, having no experience in another country, were to tell those people, “No other countries besides America exist!” what do you think they would say?

“You’re crazy! We’ve been there. We’ve seen the evidence!”

If I say, again, from my lack of experience in those countries, “there’s no evidence! It’s all a fairy tale myth!” I might be able to say it in a way that sounds intellectual, but I’m still trying to convince people with an experience that my lack of experience is a more reliable piece of evidence.

It’s silly.

So what is the only way I’ll believe if I don’t accept the stories and souvenirs people bring back as good enough evidence?

I’ll have to go to one of those other countries and see for myself.

When it comes down to it, regarding why I believe, no argument, no matter how convincing, will satisfy the need some people have to see for themselves. Even if I bring back tangible evidence, people will yell “Trickery! You made that in your basement!”

My friends and I used to travel towns and pray for the sick. We would see a lot of miracles happen: Broken bones being instantly put back together, people getting out of wheelchairs, deaf ears opening, migraines disappearing, etc. All the same evidence Jesus brought from his country.

Still, no matter how much the evidence, no matter how many verified doctor reports there were, no matter how many videos we published, there were a ton of people (including Christians) screaming, “Trickery! You’ve falsified those claims!”

Why? Because they lack the experience.

I believe because I’ve seen the other country. I’ve tasted the food. I’ve participated in the recreational activities.

I’ve seen so much evidence that even when I don’t want to believe that other country exists, I can’t stop because my life has been full of the evidence.

I believe because I’ve seen plenty of evidence (too much, if you consider my previous statement). If it’s not good enough evidence for others, that’s their deal. It doesn’t cancel what I’ve seen, heard, tasted and touched.

Roosh #fundie rooshv.com

There are many countries in Eastern Europe that have superior women than in America, but when you start to examine these women as wives and not only casual sex partners, you encounter a big problem: they value their education and careers above that of family. The reason? Education is offered for free or at a greatly subsidized rate by the government. Western governments are therefore programming women into becoming sterile office slaves and consumers instead of good wives and mothers.

I’ve met hundreds of Eastern European women from several countries, and because I’ve focused on living in cities, I’ve been unable to find more than a handful under the age of 25 who has shown eagerness into soon becoming a mom. Instead, the girls I’ve known have made their future employment the most important goal of their lives. Here is a conversation I’ve had several times:

Me: “Why don’t you want to be a mom soon?”

Girl: “Because I have to focus on my career first.”

Me: “Why don’t you just find a good man instead? He will take care of you.”

Girl: “Because men are bad. They cheat and become alcoholics. *Insert horror story of an awful man who a friend of a friend got married to.*”

Me: “So your job is more important than your family?”

Girl: “I need a backup plan in case my husband becomes bad.”

Men are bad, and because of that, she must spend years in university where she gets to experiment with different cocks and where she is firmly taken out of her natural role to learn how to serve a corporate master while her future kid goes to day care and her husband eats cans of tuna because his wife is too tired from work to cook, assuming she even knows how. A man’s marriage with such an empowered woman is doomed before he knows it.

Women want to have their cake and eat it too. They want to be able to marry the man they are most attracted to, and if that doesn’t work, still be able to enjoy an independent and comfortable life of Ikea furniture and Starbucks without having to put up with a man’s reasonable demands to cook him dinner and make sure the children are taken care of.

To accomplish that task, she must spend thousands of hours studying a topic like law or international business relations and became an obedient office worker instead of learning how to obey her husband. And because of this desire, which is being fully supported by the government with free or subsidized education, usually in the form of interest-free loans, we are seeing the disappearance of the nuclear family along with high divorce rates and out-of-wedlock births where future degenerates of the state get to watch mommy get sexy matches on Tinder.

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Women win through this scheme because they are able to say no to their husbands without repercussions and the government wins because women are less dependent on men for their needs. These women then become dependent on the state and corporations, which can easily lead them to behaviors of their choice, such as not reproducing.

If you take the depopulation agenda to be accurate then it makes sense that you would want to train women to do anything but bond with men in a way that leads to reproduction. That is exactly what most Western governments have done, and it starts by essentially brainwashing women of the need to be free from their husbands by making them obsessed to earn money produced by central banks. Any country where the idea of female employment is seen as “common sense” is in the process of having their culture destroyed, if it hasn’t already been done.

But do women really get a good deal out of this? In order to survive, they must obtain resources from corporate employment, the government, or an individual man. They cannot exist in the world on their own.

The less a woman has to depend on a man’s resources, the less she will have trained herself on how to be a good wife and mother. She may still end up being a good wife and mother, but she been put on a path since her teenage years by the system to spend considerable amounts of time in corporate and victimhood training, not wife training. Therefore if you end up marrying a woman who places high value in her “empowered” job, and she refuses to quit that job when her presence is needed in the home, your misfortune comes not just from your mistake in choosing her, but in the fact that the government, through their education programs and directives, have ensured that very outcome. In effect, you’re being actively cucked by your own government.

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Even in Eastern Europe, it is very difficult to find a woman under the age of 25 in a big city who wants to soon be a stay-at-home mom, or at least a mom who places secondary importance in her career. The feminist ideas that have infected America first came to Eastern Europe in the form of Soviet communism, which—surprise—had the primary goal to destroy the family unit.

The fact that an Eastern European girl lives in the city while her parents remain in the village means that she has been seduced by the prospect of free education, city lights, and the ability to sleep around without consequences. It is unlikely that she will be able to provide you with the home life that you deserve above that of an American woman, especially since they both approach career and motherhood in a nearly identical way. Unless you start visiting villages or churches, you’ll end up disappointed.

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If you look at a map of fertility rates around the world, you can clearly see that countries with fertility under the replacement rate have fanatical programs about educating women. Doing so makes a woman’s most fertile period of her life go to waste so that she can spend 5-10 years getting an education in obedience, consumerism, and selfie-taking while developing a bullshit career that will not make her happier than having a family.

If I were king of a land and wanted to destroy a neighboring kingdom, I’d simply implant the idea of female education within their culture so that they’d simply die out within a few generations. In the meanwhile, have fun trying to find a good woman who believes in the most basic of family values. The government already got to her, and put ideas in her head which will make it very hard for you to experience the simple act of having a family. Sadly, besides finding a magical unicorn, I see no way for us to fix this problem for our generation.

BruhYouGay #sexist reddit.com

Everybody want an Asian woman, but don't nobody want to be an Asian man.

There is a saying that black people throw around when they see a non-black person appropriating black culture popularized by comedian Paul Mooney that states "Everybody wanna be a n!gga, but don't nobody wanna be a n!gga". The idea that everyone loves black culture, but no one actually wants to be black, namely a black man. But as we know, the black stereotype is always conveniently the opposite of the Asian stereotype. Blacks are stereotyped as the pinnacle of masculinity while Asians are stereotyped as the most feminine. So if every non-black man wants to be black, then every non-Asian man must lust over Asian women. To a large degree, this is true, non-Asian men lust over Asian women because of stereotypes of submissiveness and femininity. The only men who don't drool over Asian women are Asian men, ironically. This is evidenced by the view of Asian women on this sub. But if you live in America in a moderately diverse area, chances are you see Asian women with men of other races all the damn time and never see Asian women being bashed as unattractive or undesirable. The femininity part is a little odd seeing as the vast majority of Asian women lack any breasts and butts like women of other races.
I see Asian women not only with white men but often paired with black men where I live. I wholeheartedly believe any non-Asian man with an Asian woman has zero respect for Asian men. And they know they can get away with it. Asian women get a pass for their flagrant self hatred.
Any other race of man paired with a black or Latina woman quickly finds out that he must have a deep unique genuine respect for black or Latino people, period. This is why BFXM and LFXM is much rarer than WMAF. Most white and non-black guys aren't built to bear the pressure of being seen with a black woman in public, especially an attractive one. A white or non-black man with a black woman will be called out in public if he is seen as not being "down" and dating a sister. There is a good probability that even the coolest white guy will be pressed on for being seen in public with a highly attractive black or Latina woman if he's in the wrong place at the wrong time. Because there is a double standard that discourages black women from dating out while black men do it all the time just like how white men and non-Asians hate on Asian men who date out. XMAF is normalized and accepted because both Asian females and men of other races work together to actively emasculate Asian men.

Nontrollingaccount, Godoftruelove, and HPFNU_redcurve #sexist reddit.com

(nontrollingaccount): I hate being attracted to attractive women, it's a massive pain in the heart and penis. I would pay top dollar to turn off sexuality to the point that when I see a hot/sexy/attractive woman, it would be no different than looking at a twig or a tire on the side of a highway.
If there is a safe city with way more unattractive and ugly people, I'd move there in a heartbeat.

Can't even pursue higher education or even go to stores without seeing attractive women in yoga pants/tight jeans. For the time being, trying not to look is the only option which fails in times when I least expect to see a hot woman. I went to Target to buy a bed set and a coffee maker, and I usually go an hour before they close to avoid lines, shoppers, and hot women, and there were hot women there anyway, black, white, arab, latina shopping for their tall husbands/partners.

(Godoftruelove): It's possible, but at least from what I know, you would have had to had not seen porn since puberty hit. I was lucky that I avoided porn for various reasons, mostly love, and I developed without it.
Most guys, look at porn as soon as puberty strikes, and it hyper-inflates their attraction to women, thus you feel attraction to women you don't want to, pre-porn, guys could be with a hot woman and NOT fall in love with her at sight, or even feel anything like guys do now.

Whoever introduced porn brainwashed and cucked society and men. Thus the root of the suffering is this. If you started off with a porn free beggining, girls wouldn't be able to torture you like they do now.
It might just be that I'm demi-sexual, but the correlation with my porn-free/fap-free development, and my now ability to not be attracted to beautiful women, despite still having the occasional need/urge to see boobs/be snuggled every now and then is still present, but never directed at any women(a condition I need to meet in order to enjoy any sort of sexual activity is that I must love the girl, and impossible thing to do now since I expect the same level of love from the girl, and I was fully aware since even back then of a lot of girls only seeking pleasure solely, and not true love.)

(HPFNU_redcurve): Chemical castration. I think lots of Incels should look into it- it might be the only way. If you can't solve a problem, kill it!
It won't help with wanting love though, it'll only turn you asexual. The job's half-done, now all we need to figure out is how to become aromantic and we're in the clear.

Incel4Life #sexist reddit.com

The life cycle of a 5/10 roastie

Age 6-10: Watches shows on Disney Channel and Nickelodeon where the female main character dreams of dating the good looking High School Chad, and then her dream comes true and he becomes her boyfriend.

Age 11-13: Sets her sights on the hunkiest middle school Chad, and expects him to ask her out, because that's what she saw happen time and time on the TV shows she grew up on. The dance is coming up and she expects Chad to ask her out, but oh no, Chad is going with the more attractive girl. Some less attractive guys ask her out, but she's disgusted by them, and it hurts her self esteem to know that those average looking guys thought they had a chance with her.

Age 14-17: Chad has had several more girlfriends now, and it crushes our 5/10 roastie each time he chooses a girl and it's not her. Still, she anxiously anticipates the next dance and dreams that Chad will pick her. Then one day, Chad comes up to her with a smile and asks her out. Her heart melts, she's in bliss. She thinks to herself "Wow, Chad is finally starting to mature. Now that he's seen those dumb bimbos for what they are, he broke up with them because he realizes I'm a better girl than them." She thinks it's going to end up like the movies now, she thinks she's going to lose her virginity to him, and then they are going to get married, just like in the American Pie film series. She loses her virginity to Chad, and then to her heartbreak, Chad gets bored of her and dumps her so he can pursue other girls. Average looking guys keep asking her out, but she thinks "If a hunk asked me out once, then another Chad will ask me out again"

Age 18-24: And she was correct! Our 5/10 girl is now in college and many, many Chads have asked her out, and most of them are even better looking than the high school Chad. The relationships all last only a few months, either because Chad dumps her, or because the girl breaks up with him because the current Chad didn't measure up to the previous Chads in some way, and thus the girl considers him to be lower value than what she is capable of getting. Our girl thinks "It's difficult finding the right guy, but one of these days I will find him and we will get married."

Age 23-30: The girl's subsequent boyfriends get successively less attractive, because after college she finds it difficult to get a hot boyfriend. Finally at age 30, she's with her least attractive boyfriend, who is a 5/10 just like her, because her ovaries are drying up and she is desperate to get married and have a child.

Age 35: Now she has a kid and a husband who loves her, but she's disgusted by her husband because he's just so much uglier than the hunks she got plowed by in college. She thinks "Marrying him was a mistake. He just doesn't feel right. He's not The One. One day I will find the one and he will be good looking and he will adore me." She divorces him and takes all his money.

Age 38: She's frustrated because she is realizing that dating is thousands of times harder now than it used to be. Even when she sits alone for hours at the coffee shop, no guys approach her. Then our woman looks at an old photo from 5 years ago and realizes she is significantly less attractive now than she was in the photo. She rushes to the store to buy all the expensive anti-aging products she can, but she continues to age rapidly as she nears the end of her fertile years, and new wrinkles appear on her face every week. She realizes that now 95% of her sexual value is gone, and it reflects in her behavior. Now she is like a hungry dog, salivating over all men between the ages of 25 and 45. She now is very very nice to ugly guys and gives a big smile whenever she speaks to them, despite the fact that she felt like she was too good to even talk to the same guys when she was in college.

Age 39: Our woman is now getting married to a successful 30yo 2/10 virgin Indian engineer named Pradheep. Pradheep feels very lucky to get a white woman. He feels like his hard work has finally paid off. LOL.

Melony Hill #racist theurbantwist.com

We Lost Another One. Serena “Hottentot” Williams is Engaged, and He’s White.

The fact that white men have lusted after, and when not offered, taken the body of Black women for centuries is sickening. The idea that a Black woman would voluntarily lie down with one is mind-blowing.

Last week I published an article titled “She’s Down With the Swirl”, pointing out high profile Black women who dated and married outside of their race. On the list was Venus Williams, her sister, Serena recently announced that she is engaged to Reddit co-founder, Alexis Ohanian.

I think I’m as liberal as the next, and while I recognize that we would not have had our first Biracial president if there weren’t people who dated outside of the Black race, I don’t like it. Yea I said it, in just 2 days it will be 2017 and even though I know I’m not supposed to say it in this day and age, it’s true. Why lie? I’m one who believes desegregation and legalizing interracial marriage destroyed the Black community. YES, I said it.

The more I watch Black men and women date and marry any race other than Black, the more I want to cry. We now live in a society where it is commonplace to see mixed families, where history books are being rewritten to erase the brutality that was enacted upon Africans brought to America. We live in a society where little Black babies are continuously being adopted by non-Black parents who neglect their real history and heritage.

Many of today’s Blacks seem to not even understand the struggle their ancestors endured to make sure we were treated fairly in this country. To many, Emmitt Till is a name from a disrespectful Lil Wayne song. These idiots are too blinded by what they think is good living to understand that Emmitt Till was a CHILD, a 14-year-old boy who DARED whistle at a white woman. Not only did it get him kidnapped from his family’s home, nor brutalized, it left him dead from such a horrific disregard for human life that we are still shocked by the funeral photos today.

People like the members of the Bilderberg group (PLEASE look them up) have mastered the art of using movies, music, television and social media to dumb the world down and desensitize you to things that SHOULD outrage you. The more we are bombarded with images of Black men and women dying at the hands of white officers, and civilians alike, the more they let the bodies lie in the street, reminiscent of strange fruit swinging from the trees in the south; the more the world looks at things as if they are normal.

The more the news shows you savagery perpetrated by Black Americans you think Black people are savages. The media does not highlight the same behavior from other ethnicity.

As a Black person, you should not be able to turn a blind eye to these things. You can and should not ignore that in 2017 we are seeing too much of the same behavior, rhetoric and malice that has plagued Black people in America for centuries. Nothing has changed. Before we “progressed” with desegregation, the Black community was a strong community. Black people had generational wealth and/or businesses to pass down through the family. Black people owned property, the Black family was close and the father was in the home.

From desegregation, we moved to equal opportunity jobs and homes. This was mainly given to single women and the elderly. Black women were pulled into the women’s rights movement, though white women hadn’t been fighting for our rights all along. Suddenly, Black women were chasing the white woman’s dream of freedom from under her husband’s thumb. White women longed to work, to go to school and create lives outside of their families. Black women have been working all along, many were educated. Old school Black couples understood that it took teamwork for their families to survive. Black women did not have the luxury of cooking and cleaning while waiting for the kids to come home. They were busy being mammy’s, maids, seamstresses and the like.

The government scammed the Black man out of the household, telling the Black woman she didn’t need a man and it was perfectly acceptable to raise her children alone. Over the years, the government enacted a series of laws to restore “law and order.” Somehow, these laws seemed to target minorities more. To Black women it said, we will house and feed you and your children as long as you stay single, uneducated and loyal. Government assistance, like section 8, bars convicted felons from living in homes paid for by the government. Meaning if your children’s father is a felon, he can’t be in the home to raise his children if you get government assistance.

Furthermore, the trap of cash assistance ensures that if a woman on government assistance actually tries to better herself, she fails. If you actually get a job or go back to school, your benefits can be cut immediately. The government, America and the old rich white men who run it, never meant for us to have a real chance at a productive life in America.

That’s why a woman like Serena Williams marrying a white man bothers me so much. The history of what was and is still being done to the Black race is not hidden. It’s public knowledge and can be researched with ones fingertips. The fact that white men have lusted after, and when not offered, taken the body of Black women for centuries is sickening. The idea that a Black woman would voluntarily lie down with one is mind-blowing. I look at paler Black people and literally SEE the oppressor in them. There have been times I’ve looked at a lighter skinned Black person and envisioned massa’ raping their ancestors.

Throughout her career that has not changed. On social media, she is constantly scrutinized and mocked for being too dark and too manly. This beautiful Black woman has been called a gorilla and ape more than Michelle Obama, and that is a LOT. In 2001, she told USA Today that after the 2001 BNP Paribas Opening she had been repeatedly called “nigger.” Her father reported blatant threats from the crowd. Serena boycotted the event for the next 13 years, finally appearing again in 2015. In 2014 Serena spoke out after Russian tennis federation president Shamil Tarpischev called her and Venus, the Williams Brothers, on Russian television. He was fined and subsequently, removed from his position. Last year when she was given the Sports Illustrated cover, the racist backlash was abhorrent.

Just earlier this year there were white women in Black face at the Australian Open and held a sign that said “keep calm and be Serena.” She has faced dehumanizing, hateful, race fueled comments her whole career and to my dismay, has even played into them. I was horrified when I saw this beautiful, incredibly talented woman trying to twerk for the camera. I was disgusted when Williams brushed off the incident where Caroline Wozniacki, Serena’s so-called “best friend” and fellow tennis player, came on the court with towels stuffed in the front and back, mimicking Williams shape in a match against Maria Sharapova.

Meanwhile while they degrade and ridicule, they stare at her in amazement as if she was a modern-day Sarah Baartman. They way white America obsesses over her shape and her ass, constantly sexualizing her as if her body type is in any way equal to or more important that her talent, is sickening. The way she seems totally happy to fit in, even when the joke is on her, is heartbreaking.

When news of her engagement broke one of my female friends said, I thought she was so pro Black and supportive of the cause. I laughed, knowing she had been down with the swirl, just like her sister. I told my friend, that Serena, just like Beyonce and many other Black celebrities of today, supports what’s trending and what will keep people supporting her and her businesses.

CH #sexist heartiste.wordpress.com

The relevancy of this post will probably be moot by the time it’s published, but I’ve made some points about our current climate of anti-sex prudishness that deserve consideration, so here ya go.

I’m glad Trump came out in support of Roy Moore. The man’s travails — stoked to an incomprehensibly vitriolic froth by Nasty Womanhood, Inc and the Jewish Interest Media — are emblematic of the man-hating culture that suffuses us. Do I think it’s a leetle weird for a 30 year old man to actively seek to date late teenage girls? Sure, but it’s not criminal (not as long as AOC varies state-to-state from age 14 to 17….I can’t take a statutory crime seriously if all it requires is a hop across the state border to decriminalize the charge), and certainly not worthy of national coverage knowing that it would hardly have made the local news in the 1970s (which really could have been a millennia ago given how much American culture has changed since then).

30-year-old Roy Moore’s preference for teenage love isn’t a radical aberration or departure from the spectrum of normal male sexuality. It’s out on the tails of normal male sexuality, but not off the curve into abnormality where actual paraphilias (e.g., pedophilia, necrophilia, bestiality) exist. NEWSFLASH: Men prefer young women, at minimum younger women than themselves, and men with power and social status that are naturally attractive to women will be better able and willing to fulfill their desire. At the margins, this means there will be HSMV older men who will date 17 year old Southern Roses, and some of those men will be actively pursuing a marriageable young woman with plenty of residual reproductive value to provide him with the large family he wants.

Roy Moore has four children with his wife of forty years. As far as we know, he has been faithful to her the whole time, and she adores him. His wife is fourteen years younger than him. This indicates that his youthful exuberance pursuing teen girls was part of a conscious desire he had at the time to find his One True Girl and marry her.

As long as there are teenage women with shapely figures telegraphing the opening of their prime fertility windows….

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…there will be men of all ages ogling them. Some of those men will have the mate value and the immunity to social expectation to win one over as his own. Roy Moore’s preferences were within the sphere of normal, naturally evolved male sexuality. To dumbly conflate his dating history with that of pedophiles and pervert potted plant masturbators cajoling actress whores with a bit of the ol’ quim pro quo, is a slanderous joke and reveals a deep-seated discomfort with and spite toward the Darwinian contours of male sexuality and male romantic longing.

FYI it’s not all that unusual or uncommon for an adult man to get tripped up by the apparent age of an especially voluptuous teen woman. Unless a man is in the habit of asking all 0.7 waist-hip ratio women for their IDs, there’s a chance one of them might conceal being a barely legal vixen.

Related, some men (maybe Moore) either physically age more slowly or retain a light-heartedness of spirit that belies their age, which both makes them more attractive to and more attracted to younger women. It’s not the rule, but it’s a fairly notable exception.

Say what you will about Roy Moore, at least his girls agreed to date him (even if they retconned a discomfort 40 years later). The Synagogue of Seediness doesn’t bother with the formality of mutual agreement, they just passive-aggressively jam tongues down throats “to rehearse our lines”.

In sum, if you believe every recollected detail of the ancient allegations, only one woman at the time was underage (barely) when Moore asked her out on a date, shared consensual 2nd base foreplay with her, and drove her home when she wanted to leave. The rest of his “accusers” — aka bitter aged cows who regret not being the woman Moore married, all of whom with shitty personal relationship histories and connections to thecunt’s #SheMenstruated cat lady symposium, retconning their bloom of youth trysts with Moore into criminal acts — were legal age at the time of the alleged May-December violation of the feminist code of acceptable intersexual conduct.

You may think it’s icky for a grown man to consensually date barely legal teen girls, but that doesn’t make it criminal. There was a time when, while not quite the social norm, such couples weren’t all that unusual and nobody much blinked an eye when they encountered one. We all know of our own or someone else’s great-grandparents with big age gaps who started popping out kids when great-grandmama was seventeen.

I doubt Moore’s janey-come-lately accusers really were all that scandalized by his come-ons in 1977. Here’s a rule of thumb I use to determine the validity of a woman’s sexual misconduct accusation: If she waits more than ten years to tell anyone about it, she wasn’t all that bothered by the infraction when it occurred. If she waits forty years, it’s a political hit job exploiting a radically changed anti-sex feminist cunt climate.

But it is fair to ask why Moore would, if reports based on memories of contemporaries from forty years ago are accurate to the tiniest detail (they’re not), pursue questionable if mutually consensual age-disparate relationships with teenagers to the exclusion of older women, and risk the specter of social ostracism. Some say it’s because Moore was emotionally stunted and socially awkward — a 1970s proto-sperg — who wanted a deferential and awestruck teenage woman for company unlikely to challenge his self-conception or strain his capacity for mature adult banter.

Maybe, but probably not. I think he just liked ’em ripely hot, and didn’t much care about “relationship complementarity” as de-sexed ür-bugman Will Wilkinson might put it. This notion, held dear by both white knights and feminists, that men who date younger women are secretly intimidated by strong, independent, empowered older women is why I say betacels and bitterbitches have a lot more in common than they’d willingly admit.

Psychologically emasculated white knights who gripe about “power imbalances” in the workplace between male bosses and female subordinates, or in society between older high status men and younger inexperienced women, can’t seem to fathom or accept the reality that female sexual desire is different than male sexual desire, and women are typically attracted to powerful men. Two to tango, chumps. Men are aroused to provide for and protect vulnerable, deferential women, and women are aroused by strong men to whom they can safely and happily defer. Even to whom they can submit. Perfectly equal relationships are also perfectly passionless relationships. Sexual polarity is the lube of love. Male power and female admiration provide the sexual frisson that magnifies feelings of love and creates a solid foundation up;on which to build up a lifelong commitment.

Other theories for Moore’s focus on finding a teen fiancee that I’ve read hold more weight for me.

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Character matters, and it looks to me that Moore’s accusers have the lowest of character, which rightly calls into question their veracity. Their low character doesn’t disprove their allegations, but it certainly is a leading indicator that they’re telling lies, or at best telling politically embroidered quasi-truths.

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Well, you know, (((comedians))) get a special dispensation. (For the record, I have no problem with Jerry Seinfeld dating a legal 17 year old hottie. Men work hard to acquire status, fame and power FOR JUST THIS SORT OF OPPORTUNITY.)

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That’s one of the better analyses of Moore I’ve read. He had an epic case of blue balls, and he wanted that feeling of young love that was denied him for so long. Are we going to lynch the man for that? If so, then you may as well criminalize men and castrate us all, because our dicks and our hearts aren’t going to cooperate with the anhedonic low T androgynarchic shrewtopia the hag collective wants to impose on society.

The next #resistance narrative is taking shape. Already I have shitlib acquaintances telling me, “How is it Ok that Trump can get away with groping women but no one else can?” You knew this was coming. Frankenwinestein was the sacrificial lamb to the gods of NeverTrump.

I’m near certain that Dem leaders and Cuckryans sat down with Frankenstien and said “Look Al, the photo is bad, you’re gonna have to resign, but look at it this way, you’ll go down a martyr, we’ll use your sacrifice to take down Moore and Trump. This is how you can do the most good.”

It’s pretty clear to me that the leftoid fuggernaut, caught off-guard by Pedowood, scrambled to segue from Chosen perversion to smearing the good names of Gentile anti-establishmentarians. Jizz up the waters enough and people forget who the worst perps are.

That’s why I have been consistent in my assessment of these decades-old sexual harassment allegations: mostly a bunch of Regret Fling griping from post-Wall women with a few genuine victims sprinkled in to give the moral panic a veneer of legitimacy. NeverForget that the overwhelming majority of these sex abuse accusations have been leveled against male feminist shitlibs, so what we are seeing is a moral panic started by shitlibs and feminists that they are DESPERATE to enlarge beyond the scope of the ghetto of male shitlib perverts.

Libs trying to tie Trump to #MeToo should be made aware of their telling silence and support when Hillary was running smear campaigns against Bill Clinton’s accusers. And in Bill’s case, one of the women, Juanita Broadderick, has been saying since day one he raped her.

It would be funny if, after every GOP establishment eel turned on Moore and the combined force of the jewish interest media lobbed their artillery at him, he still won. Biggest middle finger to the Globohomo Uniparty and to Schoolmarm Feminism this side of Trump’s election.

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When you accept that the GOPe cuck elite really truly hate the heartland Americans they pretend to represent, you’ll understand their behavior and be able to predict their future actions. The Uniparty is real, and they are feeling the heat. Moore, please.

randman78 #sexist reddit.com

Porn aimed for women is definitive proof they're more shallow than men

Ever notice how porn for heterosexual women features men who all look the same, white, over six feet or more in height, chiseled jawline, six-pack abs, full head of thick hair, and in the age range between 20-40. The Chad of all Chad's is what they are.

Yet porn for men, there are fat women, skinny women, athletic body types, big boobs, little boobs, no boobs, white women, black women, asian women, brown women, old women, young women, midgets, amazonian women, everything and anything you could possibly want in porn aimed for heterosexual men; women of all shapes and sizes, the possibilities are endless. Yet for some reason, women act as if they're the more noble creatures, and men are the shallow pigs.

Next time some foid tells you that men are shallow and superficial, just lay this fact on them. Men are the ones with the diversity, and are attracted to all kinds of women. Women all want the exact same boring look in a man. Porn is definitive proof of this.

John Rambo #fundie anonym.to

Women age like milk. A woman loses all her sexual value after age 25 or so. Whereas MEN GAIN sexual and economic value starting around age 30 and it keeps going up.

So we men age like wine.

So we men, we can get hot young girls even when we are 50 or older. Whereas old women would be lucky to even get an old man as a partner, and getting a young male as a partner is out of the question.

Blair Naso #fundie returnofkings.com

The Mystique Of The Feminine Mind

Abso-fucking-lutely not. Why would anyone envy women? Sure, I’ve always wanted to be a lesbian, if only for a few years, but that’s comparatively insignificant. The drawbacks are far heavier the benefits. The most obvious drawback is the body. There’s a reason that men don’t squawk about how independent they are. Women are tiny. Almost any woman could be raped and killed by almost any man regardless of all the self-defense classes and jazzercise she does. Let’s not kid ourselves. Women live in a constant state of fear, which is why they keep screaming about being strong and empowered. A truly strong and empowered person has no need to convince himself of it.

But the body is not the main reason I wouldn’t want to be a woman. By far the most terrible thing about being a woman is having a woman’s mind. Sure, they have better time-management skills, but that just means they’re wired for service. Women suck complete shit at objective reasoning. Why did you hate high school English? Because a woman taught it, and she told you that a poem can mean whatever you want it to. They couldn’t expect you to do something they could never figure out themselves.

I’m in law school right now. Unsurprisingly, I couldn’t find any data for what fields of law women tend to study, but from what I’ve seen, they are almost always either “fun” fields like child advocacy, sports, or entertainment, or “clean” fields like tax law or prosecution. Women don’t study divorce, custody, criminal defense, or anything that is morally vague or subject to interpretation. They make better grades, but that just means that they are wired for studying for tests. It is said that there are twice as many law jobs as there are new law graduates, but that’s because people specialize in bullshit fields that are flooded by cowards. If you study law, you will either learn moral flexibility or die in poverty.

Also unsurprisingly, the kind of men and women who go to law school aren’t the type of people who read Return of Kings. I realize that doesn’t have anything to do with the female mind, but this seems as good as any place to make that observation. Law school attracts the absolute worst in humanity. Weak, cowardly men and cutthroat, entitled women.

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Women are terrible at historical criticism, philosophy, or anything that involves value judgments, and they generally seem uninterested in it unless it directly affects them. This is because a woman will always argue the person, not the issue. There’s a reason St Paul said that women should never teach or speak in church. Women just aren’t equipped to perform with men when it comes to deep thinking, and that is why all the women’s liberation in the world will never enable them to accomplish much worth remembering. For example, rock music has always been pretty liberal, and there have been exactly two well-known and talented instrumentalists in all of its history: Nancy Wilson of Heart and Kim Deal of The Pixies. Imagine all of the money record companies could have made had they been able to find a talented female rock band.

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Women, of course, will never understand their inferiority any more than a child can understand his. You cannot argue with a child. Instead, you must discipline to build good behavior, and in time, that good behavior will turn into a worldview. The same is true with women. Women are inherently terrible people, and you can’t correct their bad behavior with words alone. No, you must tame the shrew using positive and negative reinforcement.

Religion is best for the job, but in today’s pluralistic marketplace, that’s often not an option. Furthermore, society has decided it’s best for women to continue acting like children, ever focused on their wants instead of their shoulds. But with a subtle reward and punishment system, you can turn the any promiscuous harpy into a submissive virgin bride. Perhaps I am a fool, but I like to believe the best in people.

You cannot tell the hawk not to devour the mouse any more than you can verbally teach a woman right from wrong. You can hate the effects of women, but you cannot call women evil. Every strong, empowered woman at heart is a scared little child lost in the woods. She’ll never admit it to herself, but every woman has a Disney fantasy about some strong man taking her away and becoming her identity. Those movies made a fuckload of money for a reason. Be her identity.

F. Roger Devlin #fundie counter-currents.com

[From a review of "Smart and SeXy"]

Impartial studies have revealed that HR women often use their influence in the hiring process not to advance the interests of the company but to screen for potential boyfriends and exclude female rivals: better-looking men are more likely to be given job interviews, while better-looking women are less likely.

Women’s move into the workplace has inevitably been accompanied by demands to remake workplaces so as to be more convenient to women. For example, one obvious consequence of female careerism is that many men are tempted to flirt with female coworkers. There is nothing intrinsically wrong with such behavior. As the author points out, flirting is something men have evolved to do, and “the species could not propagate without this behavior.” But most of these men do not come close to the wealthy movie stars and romance novel heroes with which the modern woman’s imagination has been filled. So women have demanded and gotten an administrative and legal regime which prohibits male flirting wherever it is “unwelcome” (i.e., whenever the man is unattractive). This is not merely unfair to these men. As the author points out, another “problem with criminalizing these men is that their labor and contributions are several orders of magnitude more valuable than the contributions of the women who make allegations.” It is also highly hypocritical on the part of women in view of their own demonstrated tendency, as described above, to use their jobs to advance their own sexual strategies.

Government work, being unconstrained by the need for profitability, is better able to absorb the costs of hiring large numbers of women, and accordingly women are 50 percent more likely to work for the government than men. Almost 60 percent of state and local government workers are women.

The feminists whose demands created our present employment regime want, in effect, for the cost of women’s behavior and decisions to be externalized to employers, customers, fellow employees and tax payers. Indeed, once all these hidden costs are factored out, it is unclear just how many “working” women are actually engaged in any sort of productive labor; the author suggests that the numbers may be as low as 30 percent, and there is little evidence women as a whole could ever become truly independent in the economic sense (although many women in the contemporary West are undoubtedly “independent” in the sense that they do as they please).

The cure for such waste is simply not to have many women in highly demanding positions. If they must work, they can be restricted to positions able to tolerate lower dedication.

The extension of political rights to women also involves high and sometimes hidden costs. Female influence in public life, wherever it exists, always follows a pattern which has been termed “the feminine imperative.” Kaine defines it as a “push to shape the social and legal institutions of society such that they benefit women specifically without much interest in whether those changes are harmful to men and civilization generally.” Thus, in contemporary America, women support the growth of the welfare state because its main beneficiaries are single mothers and the disproportionately female elderly population. Although the author does not discuss this, it has recently been suggested that female enthusiasm for “refugees” is a displacement of the maternal instinct to a domain where it is counterproductive. This whole question of the sources of female political behavior might be a fertile domain for scientific research once ideological controls are eased.

The author notes that

"women have a long history of being the main driving force behind hysterical cultural movements that seek massive top down control of behavior. The temperance movement has a lot of similarity to modern rape and sexual harassment hysteria. In the past, this hysteria was considered a female-specific mental disorder; women seem to be especially susceptible to the combination of highly emotional, frenetic and illogical thinking characteristic of hysteria."

But in recent decades, the very term “hysteria” has been banished from the vocabulary of psychiatry for what may be nothing more than ideological reasons.

Feminists promised that the entry of women into the workforce would unleash enormous reserves of previously untapped human talent and usher in greater prosperity and happiness for all. Instead, it has imposed vast new costs, particularly on men and taxpayers as a whole. And women themselves do not seem particularly happy under the new arrangements either: one in four American women are now on some kind of psychiatric medication just to get through the day.

The sexual consequences of this social revolution have been dire. White birthrates are below replacement across the West, and the most intelligent women are worst affected. As the author states, “the current average age of first birth for highly educated women is 32, and 1 in 4 highly educated women never have any children at all; a deeply dysgenic pattern.”

Kaine is admirably forthright in drawing his conclusions:

"The once symbiotic relationship [between the sexes] has morphed into a parasitic relationship where women depend on the coercive power of the government to extract wealth from men while providing little to men in return. . . . In essence, this is a free rider problem in which women want the benefits of civilization, but do not cooperate with the needs of the group to make civilization possible. . . . Progressively larger amounts of money [are] being taken directly from the pockets of men to pay for a largely ungrateful and ever more demanding population of women. This is wealth that productive men should be spending on their own families and children. . . . Reversing the dire consequences of feminist inspired policies and cultural beliefs thus constitute an urgent and existential imperative for the West if it is going to survive."

I couldn’t have put it better myself. If the West does survive, its future historians will marvel that a relative handful of women were able to turn the most advanced society in the history of the world upside down against the interests of the overwhelming majority of women and men merely to satisfy the imperatives of an ideology based on resentment and without any empirical support.

I was unfamiliar with Roderick Kaine until I came across this book from Arktos. He is clearly a gifted writer with an unusual ability to combine technical mastery of the hard sciences with sound social and political thinking. I hope we shall be hearing more from him in the future.

Fedup3954 #racist stormfront.org

As a white woman I and other white women know that other races are way more agressive in approaching you. I have every race asking me out and pursuing me and complementing me, etc. and I only wish it was a white guy. Non-white men don't seem to have an ego problem. I personally do not desire to date outside of my race simply because the other races just don't appeal to me. But if they did, it would be easy to forget idealology and go with another race. I know a white man who is deeply attracted to me and for some reason is afraid to approach me. I have given him chances. Is he handsome, no. Was I attracted to him, yes. At work his friends actually came over and sat with me to help things along and he "believe it" sat alone. He literally stares at me like I was some kind of white goddess. And If I am a white goddess than he is a white god. I was initially very attracted to him and wanted him to 'court' me. It ain't gonna happen. I have to admit that the fire on my part has gone out. You're white, you're well groomed. You're well mannered. You are a nice person. You're intelligent. Why do you think you have to be Brad Pitt?

Non-white women I have observed are also more agressive. Some being highly agressive while the white women sit and wait which I think is nice. Non-white women build up the white man's fractured ego. Fractured from the media that is shoved down our throats since birth. White men have got to stop thinking of some Hollywood image and hurting their egos if they are turned down. So what if you are turned down. There is another bus coming along soon. Take a chance. You might be surprised. We white women are really waiting for you to pursue us. I don't mean stalking. NO means NO, but many times it will be YES. You might hear NO once or twice, don't give up. The YES is coming along. White men, start acting like you have a p*^)# Well you know what I mean. You are still the most desirable men on the planet, sexually and socially, start acting like it and don't think that other women of other races don't want you because you know that they do. If you want them, for them go for it, but don't do it because you can't stand rejection from a white woman. The white race is simply not on the same page because we are being bombared by other more sexually agressive races. That is what you have to be aware of. Your egos are in the way. I truly believe that the non-white races are hard wired to be sexually agressive. It might be an animal thing. Unfortunately it's working for them.

Reprobus #sexist #crackpot incels.co

[SuicideFuel] We aren't going to get justice, instead this might happen.

I believe something else will happen, normies will start to be like, "o hey goy, looks rlly do matter", and when they come to consensus, normies will make it apart of the agenda and will claim ugly women(Jfl) and men have it hard and recognize that hot men and women(jfl) are treated better. It will be nothing like what we have here and majority of the "ugly" people will be normies and foids, the emergence of this movement will cloud everything we've ever done and normies will never know that our ideology and beliefs were rooted in logic.

Thread is still shit. It implies ugly females are a thing and experience lookism which is bullshit. Spoiler alert: all women are ugly without makeup and because of that no woman is ugly in societal eyes because you can cake on makeup. They will not treat ugly women or beautiful women any different because they are the same. Maybe minority women because they are typically seen as uglier but they are already doing that with women of color

Yes I know that foids are exempt from lookism we all know that I preach that in every other thread I'm in I'm just saying that's how NORMIES will view it. Okay, so you know how females have to be apart of everything nowadays or else that thing/activity is seen as misogynistic or toxic because of feminism? You also know how we have this giant issue of women acting like they are incel/ugly for attention when they have men throwing themselves at them? Well same shit will happen there, these women aren't ugly and have no problems they just want attention similar to the virtue signaling Stacy we can encounter IRL.

IHateeWomen #sexist #psycho #wingnut incels.co

[Discussion] Hypothetical Scenario: You become the ruler of a country, what do you change?

In this hypothetical scenario you have suddenly become the supreme ruler of your own country, you have absolute power and can enact laws to help mold society into your perfect image. My main goal would be to end gynocentrism and female hypergamy as quickly as possible and keep that system in place permanently. First off I will deploy soldiers within the country in anticipation of riots or civil unrest and then make a televised address to the entire country. In this address I will explain the black pill, how gynocentrism is leading to the decay of our society and then announce the new laws.

Law 1 - All feminism and ideologies related to gynocentrism will be completely outlawed.

Before this law is enacted, all well known promoters of feminism either online or in scholarly settings such as universities will be quickly executed. This is very important because it will allow the people in the country to become blackpilled quicker as well as prevent future feminist insurrections. After this law is passed, anyone found to have broken it will be executed because gynocentrism will not be allowed to seep back into society. I have identified two possible issues with this law which would be false accusations done against innocent people in an attempt to get them executed and the possibility of some military members having any relation to the popular feminists that are to be executed. In order to combat these issues, a special task force or department must be created in order to investigate these claims of feminism seriously and no execution will occur if they do not find sufficient evidence. It will be difficult for this task force to not find someone who's a secret feminist because they will search your home from top to bottom if accused, they will treat it as terrorism and have extensive resources.
For the military, background checks will be done on every single popular or scholarly feminist and any family members found to be in the military will be executed along with them. This must be done in order to maintain an army that will follow my orders and plan for society.

Law 2 - Government assigned partners

Every single man in this country will be assigned a woman to marry at the age of 18 but he has two options. He can marry a woman in his own race that will at least be 2+ his looksmatch while if he wants to to marry a woman outside his race, then that woman will be his looksmatch. This will be done in order to discourage racemixing, the law on a whole completely solves inceldom and leads to the betterment of society. There shouldn't be any issues with this law because they will be solved with the one below.

Law 3- Adultery is outlawed

No person will have any sexual relations of any kind outside of their government issued spouse and breaking this law will be punishable by death. This will help prevent Chad from fucking every hole he sees and also prevent your wife from cheating on you or abandoning you. These executions must be publicly televised to set an example, the adulterer will be brought out onto the stage and then beaten to death by her/his family members(preferably using instruments such as baseball bats or brass knuckles). If any of of the adulterer's family refuse to participate then they will be executed as well by the same method.

Law 4- Abortions will be outlawed

Done in order to support Law 3, any child born will automatically be tested to make sure that the father is the government issued husband, if not then Law 3 is broken and that means she will be beaten to death by her family as per execution. A concern will be illegal abortion clinics being set up, this will also be something handled by the task force and if one is found then everyone working at the abortion clinic will be executed. The task force will routinely monitor gynaecologists and obstetricians to make sure they do not secretly carry out these abortions as well since they are the group most likely to be involved in the formation of an illegal clinic and even retired ones will be monitored. The execution method for abortion related crimes will be beheading.

Law 5- Makeup is banned

Women will no longer be able to raise their SMV by artificial means, being caught using makeup or in possession will carry a prison sentence of 5-10 years with possibility of parole after the 5. Conjugal visits will be generously allowed for the husband so he doesn't get lonely and also anyone caught manufacturing makeup products will be executed.

Law 6 - Elliot Rodger Day

Two national holidays will be created in memory of our dear departed Elliot Rodger, one on the 23rd of May and another on the 24th of July, Elliot will be recognized as a national hero and statues of him will be made across the country. Any negative remarks about Elliot Rodger or his two national holidays will be punishable by death.

Law 7 - Social Media and Internet Act

Online dating is no longer necessary therefore they will all be banned, also all gyrocentric social media like facebook, snapchat, reddit, instagram, etc. (basically all social media) will be fucking banned as well. I imagine that people will be able to still use these social media via a vpn but they will be investigated and their punishment will depend on what they posted on that account. Also obviously anyone stupid enough to be caught using a dating app will be executed since that breaks Law 3.

Law 8- The blackpill will be taught in schools at all levels of education in a mandatory class, it will be done in order to warn future members of society about what will happen to society if we let female hypergamy and gynocentrism run rampant again. These classes will all be attended by a task force agent so that if a child expresses gynocentric or feminist views, their household and parents will subsequently be investigated.

Law 9 - Not necessarily a law but more so a policy change, I would make sure that the medical sector directs more funds towards research related to male pattern hair loss in order to eliminate the Norwood Reaper once and for all.

I might have forgotten other stuff that I wanted to change but these are the main laws I wanted to enact.

zionController #sexist reddit.com

I logged into reddit today, and as usual I had about 5-10 messages from some really butt hurt redditors saying Im a peice of shit, an asshole, a jerk, a psycho or sociopath, people like me belong in jail, etc. etc. etc. Then I look at my phone and there are some beautiful naked pics of a hot 18 year old I met recently. Niiiice. I send them to my friend, he sends me pics that girls are sending him.

We laugh a bit. I get some more texts, one from a decent looking 19 year old girl telling me how much fun she had the other night and thanking me for taking her out. I get another text, its my woman saying she`s buying grocieries and making me something special for dinner tonight. She comes home and gets mad because she finds another womans sock somewhere and doesnt know whos it is. I laugh it off, I seriously dont know either.

I went to the gym, did some really heavy squats, some bench, etc... feelsgoodman. Went home, had the best dinner ever, girl is on her period so I accept a blowjob. I play some guitar and I sit down to write this article about it. More reddit hate messages: Your whole subreddit is scumbags and you should all die. Youre probably some 14 year old virgin loser. You`re just an ugly lonely guy. There is a beautiful woman who adores me sleeping in my bed right now. Ive never been in such good shape.

Core redpill truths and their corollaries:
Women are attracted to confidence; No one is more confident than a narcissist.
Women are attracted to calm strength, not anxiety; No one is more calm than a sociopath.
Women are attracted to dominant men; Disagreeable, even violent men, are the most dominant.
Women are attracted to men who embrace risk; Dangerous men, and men in dangerous settings are the most comfortable embacring risk.
Dark triad traits make for the most attractive men. A high pitched voice and a soft weak body won`t do it. Sorry.

I fully acknowledge, and even embrace these core values, and it brings me great success in life, in love, with women, professionally... The only people who dont like me are the feminists and the manginas. Why dont they love me too? Why dont they love TheRedPill? Because its very existence, and the successful nature of the men who frequent this little corner of the internet is proof positive that they are full of shit.

It pains these people to think that some of us are hard working, fit, successful people who women find unbearably attractive in some way. They need to tell eachother that we arent real. Like kids who cant sleep at night and need their parents to tell them that there is no monster under their bed. Dont worry little mangina, just be yourself and the right woman will fall in love with you, shes not sending nude barely legal pics to zionController right now. Take your blue pill and go to sleep :)

Im only here to tell you the truth. Nothing more. I hope all you become so great at life that your mere presence makes you hated by all those who dont have the balls to /r/becomeaman .
I realize a lot of my posts piss people off. No one was madder about me saying women shouldnt vote than my own woman when I told her I would support taking her voting privilege away. She says Im a jerk. Shes right. I ask her if she still loves me. She says unfortunately. I say then it doesnt really matter that Im a jerk then, does it?

It doesnt really matter how much hate this sub gets, I get, you get, redpillschool gets... Its normal for the sheep to dislike the birds of prey. Keep lifting, eat healthy, spend your money wisely, pursue your dreams. Remember that women are children and that they shouldnt vote. Good women do dishes and dont withold sex from their spouses. Unmarried women over 30 are pathetic, and no one will ever care about your problems if you are a man. Lift heavy things, become a strong man, disregard females and be in a perpetual state of reading and learning. Its up to you to make your world into something you find desirable. Good luck and God bless.

various incels #sexist reddit.com

Re: Dumbass has Tinder experiment with GF....ends predictably

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(TheVantablackPill)
Wanna know the worst part? I GUARANTEEEE you she is fat. You don't just get an eye opening at 27 unless you are a whale. When you are sexy, you just KNOW.

She is fat & unattractive, probably dating her looksmatch because she believes no one else wants her.

(C0nserve)
Dumbass. Women will hate you if they think you have no options.

There are studies out there that show women actually like married men MORE than unmarried, something about their brains causes them to go for things they couldn't possibly have. Proves that women are status-chasers.

(jeremyjimmy)
Yep! That's exactly it. Even decent looking guys get almost no matches, he's so fucking stupid for thinking he's just able to do a normal experiment with a girl as if she'll react like a guy and go "wow, unfair double standards, that's horrible."

Her brain, predictably, goes to "holy shit I can exploit this, how did I not realize this shit? Why am I with this fucking loser?"

(feministsonredditare)
They're are literally insects, and share a hive mind. That's why they're all attracted to the same things (and roasties wont be able to argue this in the future when male designer babys all look the same and are the same height), and why they all have the same favorite sexist insults.

(Votetojudge)
Women are very insecure compared to men. They have minimal reason to try and be different than other women, because most men by far have no interest in or attraction to a woman’s status compared to other women’s. When women try to be different, it’s almost always in a way that some other women around them are already doing. They follow trends to feel safe because they are obsessed with what other people think of them at all times.

(livear)
All your life you think women are so fucking complicated.

Turns out they are primitive and mercenary, and all that energy was spent trying to turn a blind eye and not understand.

Understanding is easy, internalizing that all women are like that is heart-wrenching.

(lurkingnormie987)
Men are objects to women, like clothes. Women only value men for our ability to make themselves feel superior to other women. They dont really care about us, they basically just seek to use us to improve their own status.

She sees that other women apparently dont want him, so she automatically loses attraction for him. She now sees him as inferior, its over for him. Women treat clothes the same way: She sees she can afford to get a higher value, more name brand handbag, so her current regular handbag now seems pathetic. She sees other women dont want to wear her current handbag and now feels less good about wearing it herself.

Do you think AWALT? This behavior sounds rather primitive, it’s hard to believe there aren’t women who value a loving partner and won’t just lose interest because his perceived value drops.

I think that so many women are like this that awalt is a fair thing to say. Enough women are like this, that saying awalt isnt a large exaggeration.

Women are wonderful effect - Men never want to see women for how they observably are if its negative. Men project their masculine way of feeling love onto women and this is largely wrong. Men are not attracted to a womans status, but status means so much to women.

(Tyronesthrowaway)

Women know men want them. What she didn't know was no women want him

Accurate. Most women really think most men have similar options as females. Its a combination of apex fallacy and a victim complex that wont let them accept that men could have it harder than them.

(Administrative_Worth)

She will cheat on him in 2 months max

it'll start slow, where she can maintain her belief in her own morality. Just re download tinder to see if the same results hold up. Oh they do. Well there's no harm in chatting to the guys and seeing their experiences. Oh they are so ncie and friendly and handsome. I've told them I have a BF. Oh they still want to have coffee. Well I just I can meet one or two just as friends. Oh they are so charmng in real life. Oh I just want to kiss him, I know it's bad but I can't help it. Alright I'll go see your place but no sex. Oh now I'm riding your cock half an our later. Well it was all just an innocent string of accidents, I don't need to tell BF, what he doesn't know won't hurt him.

Describes 99.99% of cheating women. fuck, this sub has telepathy or what? JFL at inceltears for thinking this sub doesn’t understand females.

I actually ascended for a short period of my life before become a disabled/cripplecel. Brutalblackpilling. Seeing how women justify things to themselves to preserve plausible deniability.

Then overnight, hardly being able to move, post an injury, and the look of disgust they would give me. The minute the value perceptions change, it's over. Doesn't matter who you are inside, you just lost societal value. She could honestly care if you go die in a hole.

(jeremyjimmy)

I don't want to dislike women but fuck shit like this makes it so hard.

I said something similar recently. I was never a misogynist but it's like women are trying to change me into one.

CrackPr0n-EET- #fundie archive.li

Okay You guys need to realize that Lolicon does not mean lust after people that are underage. It does not mean lust after those who are prepubescent(this is where wolfen fucked up). It is no different than having a preference in women(i forgot whos aid that).

I am easilly described as a Lolicon. I like young looking, underdeveloped women. Is this wrong? Some might think so. But some people think getting circumsized is incredibly wrong to do as well.

Hell, my girlfriend is tiny as hell. She's 5'4 105 lbs, has a small chest, and over all just looks like she's about 14. I love her for this. She looks like a little girl. She's older than me though(wow, scary). Is this wrong of me to like a girls appearance that looks under 14?

My friend Kimmie looks like she's about 12. 5'0 90 some odd lbs... virtually little chest. Is it wrong for someone to find her attractive? She's 19 now btw.

We don't care about the age of the girl. If you are shown a picture of a girl and are asked "is she hot?"... does it matter how old she is to find her attractive or not? I've seen some 14 yo's that look like they're 24. 5'8 D cups(US standard), very very attractive looking to most people. Hell I have friends like that. 16 or so and look in their mid 20's. Guys ask me "who's your friend, she's fucking gorgeous"... then I tell them that she's only 16 and they're like "fuck...". Is it wrong to find her attractive just because she's underage? Is it wrong for me to find my girlfriend attractive because SHE LOOKS UNDERAGE?

This is ONLY pertaining to real people at the moment too, let alone fucking drawings. "this girl is young and cute and is sexually attractive to me"... "Fuck she's only 13? Oh well, she's still hawt".

The big difference is action. If I find a 13 year old girl sexually attractive... will I act upon it(and despite the joking that goes on between me and my friends, I wouldn't)? This is no different than ANY AGE though. "I find this 23 yr. old girl attractive... I'm going to rape her" other than what may be considered the morallity of raping a child, it is no different than raping a girl of age... except maybe worse since she might get pregnant.

So those of you saying "OMG lolicon is bad, you should all go to hell" Fuck you. Fuck you and fuck everything you think. Fuck you for thinking you can persecute us just because we find something attractive that you don't. It's like saying "you people like black women? you should all die for liking black women you sick fucks!" or somthing to that scale. I find this amusing since how many people find Asian women attractive on these forums. AND MANY of them have very child like bodies(cough cough... Aya MATSUDA>>> Maki Gotoh, etc. etc. etc.)

Again, fuck you all for prosecuting us for something we merely find attractive.

Geez Crack, that reads like NAMBLA propaganda. Maybe you should like, reword that a bit? X_X Cause it's a little extreme. o_O


No, because I hate idiotic persecution.

How would you feel if people started going off on Homosexuals? If you're a homosexual, you're a sick fuck and I hope you die. All homosexual shit on TV shouldn't be showed! I hope that fucker that was running for president and all people like him die. That's not freedom of expression, that's being a sick fuck.

How the fuck is that any different?

Donald Marshall #conspiracy m.datehookup.com

I beg you reading this to help me, I swear this to be true with my right hand to god, They stupidly put my face on a Megadeth album, "The World Needs A Hero" when I was 23, thinking nothing would ever be proven. Google image it, I still look the same, it shows what I end up looking like after a clone gathering. Most of the members of my family are there some willing some not,soe remember in real life some don't, none will do anything for fear of torture and death.

My family has one by one been turned against me, they told them things like I secretly hit or molested their children, poisoned their pets when they died of sickness, things like that to make them hate me and not want to help me. Even if they side with me there and say they don't believe it's true, Elizabeth then says "Are you cooling me a liya" in her disgusting croaking voice made as low and evil sounding as she can make it, complete with psychotic malevolent glare and they say "No no, of course it's true" stuttering afraid. My mother Catherine Mcmahon sold me into this sex and torture slavery when she remarried a man named Gordon Cohoon, his whole family is in this scummy secret society, his brothers Tom and Tony Cohoon his sisters Darlene and Bernadette Cohoon, they fear the new and improved lie detector tests, and that is all it would take to prove this true.

Half way through making this document they brought me there and introduced me to a man named TROY LANDRY, He is an alligator trapper from Louisiana on the tv program swamp people, he said if I sent this letter out he would take a power drill to my shin bone there and suck the marrow from my bones, kinda like a spinal tap, one of the worst things you can do to a clone besides burning, I said the letter will be going out, I have to escape this place, and so he did just that, it was excruciatingly painful, everyone just watched slack jawed in the crowd, Troy Landry is an insatiable child molester and an extra retarded clone, in Louisiana when he see's a young boy he likes he asks his name tells him he's an alligator hunter shakes hands, then asks his pedophile friends at the local cloning station to find the boys blood records to clone him, months later there are multiple identical boys grown for Troy Landry to victimize before the crowd of onlookers.

They all do this, it's just a way of life to them, they consider themselves the priviledged people in the world power organization. Nearly everyone on that swamp people show go to the cloning stations. After doing this shin bone spinal tap he asked me again will I send this letter out I said yes, he said he'll do the same to my pelvic bone everyday, its worse. I said I have no choice, and so he did, And it is worse... you forget your own name, where you are, all you know is pain and you beg god or anything to save you from it...

Another deplorable thing they did in real life, The Canadian government was trying to lower the amount of prostitutes on the streets, (also Elizabeth hates prostitutes) so they had a man named Robert Pickton start killing them and feeding them to pigs on his pig farm, they had a camera set up in the upper corner of a room in his house and recorded him hitting them in the head with a hammer,(a ball-peen hammer) they took the recordings and all watch them at the cloning station, Elizabeth loves watching it, says she has a maccabre fascination with death, Prime minister Steven Harper knows all about it, has seen the recordings and cheers as the rest of them do, If Mr. Pickton ever says anything about them or the recordings they will make him have a heart attack or aneurysm.

You may ask why won't they just kill me before I send this document everywhere? It's because I've done so much since age 5 no one wants to be resonsible for my death, they've said I'm the new age Jesus (which I'm not) then they've said I'm the antichrist, also the Jewish people there (there are more of them there than anyone else) called me the Mishiak I didn't know what that was so I looked it up on the internet, it means jewish messiah ( also which I am not ) now every day rich people go there to meet me and smash me or stab me for some gruesome fetish it seems, while the rest watch in the stands, it's the worst nightmare situation I have ever heard of and its happening to me, they get others too but they're just used as sex slaves and wont talk about it, I get tortured anyway and have nothing to lose by telling everyone about it,

not only am I tortured into making songs for nearly everyone on much music, they want me to give them video ideas and movie ideas video game ideas they want me to think up all kinds of stuff for them, jewish people think I'm something religious and won't leave me alone, they torture animals too, the more the animal screams the more their god Yahweh supposedly likes it, which I find ridiculous, I've written the human rights board, they didn't respond, I went to the police, they threw me into a mental hospital for 23 days for an evaluation. I was released with a clear bill of mental health. They continue to torture me, talk to me about absurd subjects, they've run out of things to talk about, even talked about the difference between pop tarts and toaster strudel and which is better and why, there is nothing to do there besides sex and fighting and torturing other victims.

I must add, they clone people from all walks of life there and chain them down to stainless steel corpse tables or drug them so they can't move, send people into the room dressed up as aliens hollywood quality makeup and make them think they're having an alien abduction, they even dye chicken skin grey and stretch it over a mask for realism, perform medical "experiments" on them cutting them up, perverts anal probing them and raping they're limp bodies, these victims wake up and think they've been abducted by aliens but don't know where to turn, and are embarrassed, the victims even sometimes try to videotape themselves while they sleep, to prove theyve been taken, to no avail, they're not taken, they've been cloned by the most disgusting perverts in the world... the scum even videotape these abductions to watch later as sick demented porn,... this happens more often than you can imagine, they just keep doing it to random people over and over and over...

They've offered me clone slaves to keep me quiet, any of the prettiest women I've ever seen any girl from the high school, even children, I do the right thing and spit in they're faces, jam my fingers into they're eyes but they have some way of turning off their pain receptors there, not much will hurt them other than getting dirt or vomit in a wound or bleeding out too much it only costs them time and money to grow new bodies. I started smearing excrement in their faces, I've never handled feces in my real life before but I do this there and even that doesn't deter them,... I made a song for One Republic referring to it called "All the right moves"

The lyrics say (All the right friends in all the right places,... All the right moves in all the right faces") I've made so many songs its ridiculous rock pop rap country, there are so many people involved in it it's staggering, the organization is vast. The only thing they fear is nuclear war the new and improved lie detector test and THIS letter.

Continued...

Caamib, Elliot Rodger, various incels #sexist pastebin.com

(Caamib's translation of an article about an interview between him and German news magazine Der Spiegel in 2014)

Male, single, life-threatening

The man who killed six people in Santa Barbara in May, was a member of an obscure community: So-called Incels live involuntarily as single, and some develop a hatred of women, which can be fatal. Who are these men?

Written by Takis Strangler

Marijan says there are people in his community who hate the summer. In summer they have no choice but to see more of the women, their skin, their bare knees, tight clothes and their breasts. Marijan says he does not look at women, and he was trying to avoid places where he has to see naked female skin. He says: "If you're hungry but cannot eat, you're not going into a street fully loaded with cakes."

Marijan, 26, from Zagreb wishes a girlfried, and because he’s unable to find one, he experiences his life as a torment. He is lonely, but in his loneliness he is not alone. His community meets on the Internet.

He belongs to a group of people who answer to the moniker "Incel", which is the abbreviation for the English term "involuntary celibacy”. Marijan frequents forums in which an own culture of solitude has developed.

People who gather there are almost always men, a few hundred in total. How many there are exactly, can be difficult to estimate, there are English, German, Dutch, Australians and especially Americans.

One of them wrote in the past year on an internet forum: "One day the Incels will realize their true strength and number and overthrow the oppressive feminist system. Imagine a world in which the WOMEN FEAR YOU. "

The author of these lines was student Rodger Elliot. On 23 May this year, Rodger (22), from Santa Barbara, California, recorded a video from himself. He put the camera on the dashboard of his BMW and sat behind the wheel.

He said: "This is my last video. Tomorrow is the day of retribution. The day on which humanity will experience my retaliation. Which you all will experience. In the past eight years of my life, since I reached puberty, I was forced to endure loneliness, an existence full of rejection and unrequited desire. All just because women never felt attracted to me. In the last years I rotted in solitude. "

Now and then Rodger laughed in the camera, a handsome young man with black hair and white teeth. Through the window of his car palm trees were visible.

A short time later, he killed three fellow students in his apartment. Forensic scientists examine which weapon he used. The wounds of the corpses are not clear. The police secured fingerprints on two machetes, a knife and a hammer.

When the men were dead, Rodger took his Sig Sauer P226, his Glock 34 and two semi-automatic pistols, and went out in the neighboring community of Isla Vista. He knocked at the house of a sorority. Nobody answered him.

A few steps further on he shot two students. He went into a snackbar and shot and killed a customer. Then he climbed into his car, drove through the town and shot at passers-by, injuring 13 people.

He rammed his BMW into a cyclist, slammed into a parked car and killed himself with a shot in the head. Rodger left a few videos and a 137-page manifesto. In it are phrases like: "Women are like a plague. They are like animals, completely controlled by their animalistic instincts, and corrupt feelings and impulses. "

Many men who became lone gunmen have, as Rodger had, a sick relation with women in general. Eric Harris, one of the boys involved in the 1999 at Columbine High School shooting in the United States, killing 13 people and killed himself, wrote in his diary: "Maybe I just need to have sex. Perhaps that would change this shit. "

And his accomplice Dylan Klebold wrote: "I do not know what I do wrong with people (especially women) - it is, as if they hate me and scare me. "

During a shooting rampage in Winnenden in 2009 Tim Kretschmer killed eight female students, three female teachers and a male student in his former school.

In the same year the American George Sodini shot three women and wounded nine more, before taking his own life in a gymstudio. Previously, he had written in his blog:

"Women simply don’t like me. There are 30 million desirable women in the United States (is my estimate) - and I find none "!

These gunman leave questions:

Why people had to die? Exists there a connection between the murders and the loneliness of the perpetrators? What has this incel community from the Internet to do with the murders?

Rodger can answer no longer, and even if he could, he could hardly give any clear answers. But there are people who understand a few of his thoughts. Because they share his anger at women and his loneliness. One of them is Marijan (not his real name). You can reach him on his blog, thatincelblogger.wordpress.com.

After a few emails he agreed to meet, in Zagreb, Croatia, his hometown.

Before a pizzeria near the Cathedral a handsome young man, tall, with jet black hair and a three-day beard is waiting, he wears a white, loose T-shirt and cropped trousers.

While shaking hands he does not look one in the eyes. As he sits at a table, in the back, in a quiet corner of the restaurant, he says: "I'm going to look bad in the article, but what have I got to lose? "

He says he was angry after Rodgers rampage. The whole world again only talked about tougher gun laws. But no one thought about other reasons that drove Rodgers to his rampage. No one had thought about incel.

Marijan talks much and long. He doesn’t allow a lot of questions. It is less a conversation but rather a series of lectures, which he conducts with great precision.

Sentence after sentence, lecture to lecture, he leads the listener deeper into his world, deeper into the darkness in which there seems to be no happiness, only immeasurable hatred.

Excerpts from lecture one, subject: Women.

Women are simply designed robots with the desire to procreate. Young women in past generations always had help from their grandmother. She helped with finding a man. She said: This is a good type, he will take care of you. These grandmothers were replaced with the magazine Cosmopolitan. Today women want to marry up. They want improve their station. I would not say that we Incels hate women. But if you were rejected 50 times, then you develop negative feelings, which is normal.

Excerpts from lecture two, Topic: seduction game.

Women can now provide for themselves, so their preferences have changed from breadwinners to seducers. A minority of men has sex with the majority of women. The successful men are the Bad Boys. If you want to have a woman today, you need to become a Bad Boy and lose your ethics.

Excerpts from lecture three, theme: a better world.

I want a society in which a group of men cooperates in total trust. Each man gets a woman. The women are fairly distributed. People are monogamous and marry as a virgin. If a man wants sexual diversity, he goes to a prostitute. Feminists would be made prostitutes in this society. When a man tries to seduce multiple woman, he is killed instantly.

Marijan and other Incels meet on various forums on the Internet. the forum, that Elliot Rodger used, is now closed. Another is a relatively moderate forum called love-shy.com. The members speak there about topics such as pick-up lines, plastic surgery and other ways to escape their despair.

The users of the forum had opened a discussion about Elliot Rodger. On the first page a moderator writes that he condemns the deed and that Rodger did not reflect the philosophies of loveshy.com. The moderator announces that all posts glorifying the deed will be deleted.

One user writes on one of the later pages: "I think about Elliot Rodger ... why didn’t he just rape a slut at gunpoint? "

Another user wrote: "I was always taught to respect women and not to be sexually aggressive. That was a bucket full of shit. All what they really want is a muscle man who fucks them in the ass instead of fucking a real person with feelings”

A user writes on one of the last pages about Rodger: "He is a martyr, in the real sense of the word, one must give him that. "

On the forum Marijan calls himself "Dante Alighieri”, as the medieval poet. Dante started his poem “the Divine Comedy” with the words: "Halfway through the path of human life I found /myself in a devious dark forest/ Because I strayed from the right path."

On the morning after the first meeting Marijan wears the same clothes as on the day before. He says he did not sleep well, because the conversation had him stirred. In the café he ordered a chocolate cake and tells his life story.

Marijan grew up in a middle class family, he has a brother, and both parents were employeed. In school he had many years of little contact with girls. As he started to get interested in girls, they were alien to him. He was afraid of them. "My brain has not developed normally, " Marijan says. He was "love-shy". The American psychology professor Brian Gilmartin invented this term in 1987. The men who suffer from this condition complain about their complete inability to enter into a romantic relationship.

Some men report panic attacks, when they are alone with women, some break out in sweat, others can hardly move anymore when they think of a date, to which they look forward to. Marijan developed a morbid fear of women mingled with a steadily growing demand for a relationship with a woman.

He says: "My standards are very low, as long as the woman is not overweight or is unhygienic. And I have trouble with bad teeth. "

At 19, he met a girl through an SMS Chat. She was 16 and said to Marijan, that she wanted to sleep with him. She showed him how she likes to be kissed. The girl became Marijans girlfriend. He was happy for a moment.

Then she went on vacation over the summer to an island. Before parting, Marijan was angry because he did not want her to go, and told her that maybe they should become just friends.

The girl went anyway. Marijan sent her many SMSes and self-written poems. When she returned, she told him that she no longer liked him. Marijan could not cry for three days. Then when he finally cried, he didn’t go to the university for months and stuffed himself full with chocolate. He didn’t get over it, says Marijan. After one year he wrote on an Incel forum on the internet that he was planning on shooting himself and the girl. The owners of this forum contacted Interpol. Marijan got a visit of the Croatian police.

He testified that he no longer wanted to kill. The policemen nevertheless arrested him and charged him with the suspicion of murder threats and put him in pre-trial detention. After a month a judge released Marijan because he hadn’t threatened anyone directly. The judge said, so tells Marijan: "Maybe you’ll meet another woman just outside the court."

It was followed by two years without a kiss.

As Marijan turned 24 years old, he wrote on an Internet forum that he was a male virgin and looking for a woman, that would deflower him. A Croatian woman contacted him, visited him in Zagreb, slept with him and then said that he was pathetic , as he tells it.

In the years after he managed to bed three other women. "One of them was crazy and
a total bitch, "says Marijan. When she left him for another, he remained lying in bed for months, he says. He thought about suicide, and spent five days in a psychiatric ward.

Later he earned a degree in Medieval History at the Zagreb University. But he never wanted to work, because, as he says, he didn’t want to pay taxes that will reward sluts.

Today he says he no longer dates because he never want to feel disappointment again. He’s been alone for a year.

Most gunmen send out signals before their deeds, signals which could have been interpreted as warnings in retrospect. Allusions, threats, videos on the Internet.

Some gunman stuck a note on the school toilet wall, on which was written: "Tomorrow you're dead." Some men start wearing black clothes and leather jackets before they act. Elliot Rodger wrote his fantasies on blogs.

Marijan says: "There are a lot of broken people waiting to die. And he says:" I do not know when I will snap. " This English word "Snap" has several meanings. It can mean break, tear or explode. Marijan says: "I think Incel that can cause people to shoot or kill with a bomb. "

He smiles, it seems as if he enjoy the moment. Psychologists and psychiatrists that deal with school shootings, try to explain why men kill women, but women almost never kill men. Testosterone was one reason, the researchers say, and gender roles are also to blame, since men are more likely to resolve conflict with force and women are more likely to retreat. At the end they still lack a satisfactory explanation.

The FBI, the American Federal - police, writes in a report about shootings at schools that offenders are often focused on perceived injustices. One goes through life and picks out everything, that offends them. Every stupid comments of a classmate is remembered, each breakup with a girl finds his place in the collection of misery, until someone thinks the whole society is against you.

Many gunman also like to play videogames, where it’s the goal to shoot people’s head off. And many suffer from a narcissistic disorder.

But correlation does not equate causation, so no handy formula like this one can be derived: loneliness + computer games + narcissism = rampage. There are many lonely, narcissistic gamers who never shoot people.

In the life of a crazed gunman something happens, that the psychiatrists and psychologists cannot explain. Evil is sometimes greater than a simple explanation.

The assassin who tried in 1981 to shoot U.S. President Ronald Reagan, said when interviewed: "You know a few things about me, sweetheart, for example, that I’m obsessed with fantasy, but why don’t you understand, that fantasy in my world becomes reality? "

Another gunman from the USA heard voices that told him: "You have to kill all. You have to kill the whole world. "

According to Wikipedia: "The trigger of a rampage is a combination of an advanced psychosocial uprooting of the offender, the loss of professional integration through unemployment, demotion or transfer, increasingly experienced insults and partnership conflicts. "

After all, what Marijan tells about himself, he has few friends, no job, no partner, and he experiences his life as an insult, which becomes greater each passing dayl. Those looking for long enough, will realize that the template fits him.

The last meeting with Marijan is in the evening and takes place in a restaurant, again at a table away from the other guests. It is a warm evening, but Marijan sits down inside the restaurant, the place where no one else sits. He says that he wished that women have the right to vote taken away.

Then he says that he once tried to kill himself with sleeping pills, but one and a half days later he had woken up. His eyes light up with pleasure when he takes on the theme rampage. Then he unleashes the bad thoughts from his mind in the world. He says: "I will cause dissatisfaction. I want to make people angry. I do not think that I'm going to kill people. " After a moment of silence, he says: "I want to spread a little panic. "

He again starts talking about similar topics as on the first day, always it comes to women, and always it comes to himself, he says: "I've started to see women as the filth that they are. " A little later he says: "I do not like people."

This article attempts to explain about the Incel community and the research leads to different men, who identify as Incel. One dreams of to find a farm where Incels can live together. The farm dwellers could agree to import women from Mexico and divided them amongst themselves. One sat with radiant eyes in a small German town and told of how he overcame his fear of women by simply spending more time with women. He looked happy and said it was probably a good idea if the Incel forums were monitored by psychiatrists to ensure that the users can find professional help.

Another hopes to, finally, in his mid-twenties, to kiss a woman. A few of these men seem lost. Nobody seems dangerous. And in end it became clear that there is no Incel community. There are only a few lonely men.

Many men from the Incel community can simply find no partner and look for help on the internet. For them the forums can perhaps save them. For other men the forums offer the opportunity to cultivate their hatred in a group.

For 20 years, such people would remain in their hole, alone with their bad thoughts. Probably a man is difficult to love when he is full of hatred. While carrying these thoughts, it’s possible to want to kill everyone around you and yourself. The potential gunman becomes Incel. And not the Incel a potential gunman.

Elliot Rodger was in his mid twenties when he died, he had visited several therapists, he had been bullied at school, he had his own blog on the Internet.

Marijan is mid-twenties, he has visited several therapists, he was bullied at school, he wrote his own blog on the Internet. One was a mass murderer. The other meets with a journalist and eats chocolate cake.

Rodger left us with the question:

Why did six people have to die? There is no logical explanation. His 137-page manifesto that he wrote before he became a murderer, ends raving about the prospect of killing people. It shall be the punishment for not getting a woman who loves him. Rodger has named the work "My fucked-up world ". He writes that he will retaliate and punish everyone. The last sentence of the manuscript is as follows:

"Finally, I can show true value to the world. "And in the penultimate sentence Elliot Rodger, 22, a young man from California, who had his whole life before him writes: "And it will be beautiful."

Marijan wrote recently a new entry on his blog. He analyzed why he is lonely: "I finally understand the depths of madness and sexism in our society. All the betrayal, the whole heartless and horrible behavior of women were seen as my fault. That is hatred. "

Some incels #sexist reddit.com

Re: Why even try as a manlet

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(Nigrum-Turcam)
They aren't like this in real life, especially if they have no buddies around to back them up. If I was even a quarter as cruel as them I would bully them into submission but I don't. It's all so tiresome.

(Incelebrity)
and if fake-up was banned they would be their timid selves a lot more too

ever seen some foids irl without makeup? they dont act up for shit because they know they look ill in comparison to their usual masked selves

(IqRaterMan)

A lot of insecure women gravitate to social media specifically for validation, and taking the piss out of men for things we cant control is a great, socially acceptable way for them to achieve some validation with minimal risk from other like minded insecure women. Lots of men would do the same thing, but its not socially acceptable for men to "body shame" women. Nobody checks women for seeking validation and approval this way, so they gravitate towards this method as it is a low effort way for them feel better about themselves.

When it comes to people like her, its better to take their opinions for granted. Insecure height queens like this are an extremely vocal minority of women that are distorting how most women actually look at men. Most of the time if a girl likes your face and how you carry yourself she wont care about your height.

For a second I thought this was r/short or something, these are cope levels that shouldn't be possible. All women care immensely about your height. I actually haven't met a single woman in over two decades who has answered even "maybe" to the question "would you date someone your height or shorter?"

(Watchwhattheydo2)
The only way a short guy can attract foids is if he’s really good looking, or has a big dick, or is famous/high status. Otherwise it’s betabux.

Normal regular short guys all struggle immensely with women unless they betabux an alpha widow, and even now that’s less common as chad harems/poly relationships are beginning to normalize.

Women don’t want no short short man, they hate them and seriously see them as inferior. All foids see short men as a fate reserved for inferior women who lost at the game of love and are forced to settle. If a male is short, he seriously isn’t even a real man to women.

I went through his post history, at the least he’s delusional, at most he’s humble bragging about his success with women.

The worst part about being a shortcel is that both inceltears and braincels deny the heightpill. You're the ones coping: https://old.reddit.com/r/Braincels/comments/a3hq0u/the_ultimate_heightpill_compilation/

All women care about is how big a man is, how good looking a man’s face is, how big his dick is, and how much money he has. Lmao men need to wake the fuck up, women don’t love men.

It’s more important to be tall or well hung than it is to be a good person when it comes to attracting women. The fact that the exact opposite is what people want to believe is pure women are wonderful effect delusion.

Men are trying to deny what’s plainly in front of their faces lmao. Men need to wake the fuck up.

(Votetojudge)

Tell me how what I said is cope.

Because most women by far are like the woman in this post and you don’t want to believe it.

If men started body shaming women, guys would pop up to defend women. Women dont defend short guys because they are silently agreeing. If this foid was talking about tall men in a derogatory way other women would probably shame her.

You are in denial, most modern women literally value men as status objects and height is a big part of a man’s status to women, particularly today. If a guy is short today, almost all women disqualify him right off the bat, because his stature prevents them from getting the status out of a bf they all feel they deserve.

various incels #sexist reddit.com

Life fuel: Roasty learns that sexual promiscuity has consequences

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(IndraMaheshwar)
Wait but I thought 16 year olds were innocent angels who don't know how babies are made?!

Reddit moralizers will call you a pedo for thinking about 16 year olds sexually, meanwhile they're having group anal sex so intense that it cripples them for life. Jfl.

(GasTheBlues)
The veil was ripped from my eyes when I was like 18, some 12 year old girl in the youth club I worked at gave bjs to a couple of the boys who went there, was creepy af to interact with her after that knowing about it.

(RAZENKN)
I’ll bet those roasties were Hispanic!

yes. i'm mexican. what gave it away?

Hispanic girls are by far the sluttiest on the planet. I mean those hoes are notorious for starting young. I wouldn’t be surprised if they made up the largest percentage of teenage pregnancies.

(Dirtatron)
Dude, make no mistake, that is a phenomenon that transcends national and cultural boundaries. I'm from eastern europe and throughout highschool I've seen girls date 25+ y.o. guys. Few of my acquaintances continue that tradition by hooking up with with 16 y.o. girls from our former highschool even though they are about to finish uni.

(StopCopingStartLDAR)
in 5th grade i went to a going away party for a girl that was moving (my first and only party btw) and i remember walking down the stairs to the basement and seeing one girl giving a guy a lap dance to Hypnotize by Notorious BIG and later i saw another girl giving a dude a blowjob. IN 5TH GRADE. and this was like 2000 so i can’t even imagine what they’re doing now.

(FACEandLMS)

It's not that minors are non-sexual, it's that they're stupid and make bad decisions. Mentally it's easy to manipulate or control minors, which is why they can't even enter into a contract legally by themselves.

When minors have sex with other minors, they're on the same playing field and even if bad decisions are made you can't blame a specific party. The law is there so that adults with more brain development and life experience don't take advantage of dumb kids. Kids don't magically grow up and become smart overnight on their 18th birthday, but they had to come up with a number, just like the age for drinking / driving etc.

Anyways, pedophilia in your head is ok as long as you don't act out on them. There are people with weirder fantasies.

Yet, if a woman gets drunk at age 25 and then has sex with a 25 yo man, she is not responsible for her actions and the whole case is treated little differently from if she had been a sober 14 year old.

And they now have "coercive rape" where if a man says: "I'll give you a Hollywood deal if you fuck me, but you don't have to accept this", the woman can fuck him then 20 years later, claim she got raped. #metoo.

So are women irresponsible children FOREVER, unable to make adult decisions or not?

(PvtJamesRyan)
“Stupid and Make bad decisions”

Wait a second, I thought inceltears official doctrine was that all girls should be free to “explore their sexuality” regardless of age and anyone who is against this is automatically labelled an incel. Don’t believe me? Check out the front page of inceltears now where they are calling out incels for speaking out against teen sexuality at this very moment.

(mwobuddy2)

woman is victim.

"blame the pron, not the individual!".

man is victim.

Good, that degenerate deserved it.


16 year old

having GROUP sex.

Suifuel.

(mantrad)
Remember you are a pedo for finding 17 year olds attractive, meanwhile they are doing this every day

(RareRaspberry6)
Lol you have no idea. where I live age of consent is 13. other parts of the country have younger AoCs, some parts have no AoC at all, some even define age of consent as "age in which the girl first started menstruating". when i was 12 and in school all the girls in my class were going out with men old enough to be their fathers simply because they had cars and money to buy them stuff. it pissed me off so much. i'll never understand why women hate dating guys their own age so much.

CH #sexist heartiste.wordpress.com

A fat tax has been seriously discussed on various platforms for years, usually supported by the premise that fat craps cost society a lot of money in higher health insurance premiums, mitigation overhead, and the daily annoyances of dealing with fatties in public spaces, making room for them, avoiding their stank, and spending mental energy looking away from their disgusting blobbiness while trying to suppress the retch reflex.

A well-meaning but nutritionally misguided fat tax (which taxed foods high in saturated fat) was even tried in Denmark, with positive results (the tax was later scrapped due to open borders…not kidding).

But what if I were to tell you that a Fat Chick Tax makes a lot more sense than a sex-blind generic fat tax? Tucked into a great post on macro-sexonomics (which reads a lot like Heartiste posts) from the blogger who calls himself Giovanni Dannato, the justification behind the Fat Chick Tax:

When most men rarely see higher than a 6.5 in public who isn’t flagrantly anti-social, their morale and motivation is sapped and the scale of sexual market value is drastically distorted in favor of those obese and plain women who stay behind.

While men will always get thirsty enough to settle for whatever they can find, they aren’t as willing to sacrifice as they would be if access to potential mates were more equitable. Once the girls they could approach are repulsive enough compared to anime porn, enthusiasm for the chase goes into a downward spiral.

For every low-status nerd who is willing to date a fat woman, there is another who ends up a celibate omega. This creates millions of bare branches with no roots or prospects in the social order, a state of affairs which makes steadily increasing agitation against the establishment inevitable.

Even those men who still succeed with women know they could be doing a lot better. Without any real status or bargaining leverage they are struggling with long term relationships and family formation. They have no more stake in the present state of affairs than do incels.

Just as illegal immigration and offshoring push down wages for everyone, most men see their sexual market payoff reduced by relentless demand inflation.
To put it in perspective, we all know how an influx of millions of pretty young women would be received by the matriarchy.

The overwhelming thirst caused by the hyper-inflationary collapse of the sexual market has played a significant role in the death of civic life. […] Clearly, a society that wants to persist under modern conditions must acknowledge the importance of balancing the sexual market for the sake of cohesion and stability. […]

A main point here is when we objectively rate beauty in a new inegalitarian age we can incorporate it into policy. A special tax on obese women for instance would tacitly acknowledge they are reneging on their side of the social contract by depriving society of the beauty that motivates male participation and helps sustain a workable balance of power between the sexes.

Similar penalties might apply to disfigurative piercings or tattoos.

Congregating in a few neighborhoods in a few cities could be dis-incentivized by removing feminist laws that make it easier for women to get nice white collar jobs they can’t get fired from and imposing special taxes on certain places of residence for single females.

These kinds of measures would obviously trigger massive female opposition, but if women as a whole tried living within a stable balance of power rather than an extractive matriarchy, they might actually like it.

The modren post-America sexual market is horribly skewed against men and their interests, and this as noted is a recipe for revolution. Giovanni is essentially recapitulating the same themes CH touched upon in posts like “Obesity to blame for Game“…

Game has been refined, taught and embraced by men in direct proportion to the shrinking pool of attractive thin girls. As the reduced supply of skinny chicks have seen their sexual market value skyrocket, they have adjusted by pricing their pussy out of reach for the average guy. In return, men have sought solutions to this new challenge in the rapidly advancing science of seduction. Where simple courtship worked in the past, it is no longer effective against the deep bunker defenses of the in-demand slender woman.

There has always been an evolutionary arms race between men and women in the quest for sex but now, for the first time in human history, the sheer numbers of fat chicks — in concert with the increase of financially independent women — is accelerating this arms race so fast that many people can’t cope and drop out. The tools of seduction for men become better by the day and the women counter with more impenetrable defenses. The tension is palpable. The whining and bitching is cacophonic. Distrust and dating blogs are at record highs.

If just 20% of fat chicks lost weight relations between the sexes would start to noticeably improve. And there would be more happiness in the world, because a skinny girl with hunger pangs is happier than a fat girl with a sheepdog and peanut butter.

…and in posts like “Game. obesity, and men dropping out“:

In short, no sociological theory into sex, marriage and family trends is complete without a long, hard look at female hypergamy, the one biomechanical force to rule them all, and its intersection with economic realities. The science is out there; when women become financially empowered, they begin to choose men based on criteria other than their ability to provide.

But that’s not all that Murray, et al are missing. I’m here to tell Murray and others perusing his findings that there is another, MASSIVE factor at work skewing the sexual market, and one that, just as unsurprisingly, gets almost no attention from the PC-soaked punditariat: female obesity.

Imagine you are an unmarried working class dude recently unemployed. You look around you and marvel at a sea of grotesquely misshapen fat women, rolls upon rolls of undulating flesh hiding stores of cheesy poofs, porky hellion spawn trailing their wakes, chins resting atop chins, bloated diabetic cankles stomping the Walmartian grounds like lumbering elephants. In some towns, close to 40% of the available single women are clinically OBESE.

This is obesity folks, not just overweight. Overweight women are physically repulsive, but obesity renders them monstrous. To clarify this assertion for the modern indoctrinated female reader: an obese woman is as sexually undesirable to men as a jobless, charmless, humorless, enfeebled, dull man is sexually undesirable to women.

So back to our realistic scenario: Our typical unmarried working class man surveys his cellulite-blasted kingdom (and it does not matter how fat he, himself, is, for fat men and thin men alike prefer the exquisite sight of slender female bodies), and he makes a quick hindbrain calculation. Does he bust his ass in a crappy service sector job doing women’s work for a shot at legally bound long-term commitment to a shuffling shoggoth dragging the bastard spawn of a hundred alpha males in tow, or does he say “fuck it” and turn to video games and porn featuring hot, thin chicks for his status and dopamine fix?

You see where this is heading. It’s entirely reasonable, and expected, that a lot of men would drop out of the intensified competition for the few remaining childless slender babes in a world full of fat asses, single moms, and fat assed single moms. And even among the small contingent of sexually appealing women, they make enough in government and HR paychecks to cover expenses plus gifts for their Skittles Men. What working stiff beta provider can compete on those terms?

A Fat Chick Tax would go a long way to bringing balance back to the force — bringing Truth & Beauty to a swellscape scarred by Lies & Ugliness — and in so doing return to White Men, the creators and maintainers of civilization, the motivation to keep sacrificing for the Good.

Sans_Logique #sexist #crackpot #psycho reddit.com

(hydrolythe)
Inceldom is lame.

That's because it's built upon a sociological theory that can easily be proven false by basic psychology. (If all women wanted to sleep with chads, then why is hybristophilia a mental disorder?) At least Aristotle appealed to the essence of men and women when defending patriarchy. This is a notion many still uphold today.

If a man from Ancient Greece has a better theory than you for explaining things you have a resounding failure of a theory in your hands.

(https://www.reddit.com/r/incelconversations/comments/as3rch/inceldom_is_lame/)
Your post is extremely poorly thought out. I'd call you an idiot but it would be an insult to all the idiots.

That's because it's built upon a sociological theory that can easily be proven false by basic psychology. (If all women wanted to sleep with chads, then why is hybristophilia a mental disorder?)

Because the term/concept were developed at a time when feminism hasn't yet completely mutilated Western societies.
]At least Aristotle appealed to the essence of men and women when defending patriarchy. This is a notion many still uphold today. If a man from Ancient Greece has a better theory than you for explaining things you have a resounding failure of a theory in your hands.
What does any of this have to do with anything you state before ? Also, you almost certainly don't even know what specific theories fschmidt has and incels have vastly different theories on what causes their problem. You just lump it all together and you don't even explain what Aristotle was saying and why his ideas are better than... whose ideas exactly?

Fucking lunatic.

(hydrolythe)

Because the term/concept were developed at a time when feminism hasn't yet completely mutilated Western societies.
Ah yes, the "feminism mutilates". If you think that writing "women are equal to men" in the constitution is a form of mutilation you have explained what's wrong with you indeed.
What does any of this have to do with anything you state before ?
If a misogynist from more than 2000 years ago has a better theory for justifying misogyny than you do you know you have a massive failure of a theory on your hands.[quoe]You just lump it all together and you don't even explain what Aristotle was saying and why his ideas are better than... whose ideas exactly?Indeed. I've yet to see a theory incels have for their suffering other than the blackpill. The fact that you think incels are a diverse group of people when in actuality they force eachother into one rigid streamlined thought where any diversion has to be eliminated shows an incredible lack of awareness. And I don't care if liberals have another theory for their suffering. I care what they themselves actually think.

And in case you haven't noticed. Aristotle was much better (although still wrong) than incels ever will be.

(Sans_Logique)

If you think that writing "women are equal to men" in the constitution is a form of mutilation you have explained what's wrong with you indeed.
Anybody can write down whatever they want. I can write down that "men can fly and women have 7 breasts" and nothing will happen. But when I try to live by such nonsense is where problems happen in society. Men and women are not equal and trying to live by that lie kills a society pretty quickly.

I don't know what's "wrong" with me and I don't think it's up to you to tell me, given that you don't know anything about me or Aristotle or incels or whatever the fuck you ramble about,

You also did nothing to address my point, which is that hybristophilia was rare and thus a disorder before feminist plague wiped out any intelligence and morality. Today's Western women are very attracted to violent, immoral men and putting a bullet through a woman's brain will attract other women much more than any honesty, decency or morality. Raping and executing a woman is attractive to women in feminist societies much more than being intelligent or decent can ever be - being anything more than scum repels modern Western women

If a misogynist from more than 2000 years... something about theories
Aristotle wasn't a misogynist. Judging by your insanity anybody before 150 years ago or so would be a misogynist in this case. Nobody who lived before that time would even think of something as retarded as giving women the vote or believing that they were equal to men. His theory (which I am not familiar with and you don't bother to explain it) wasn't to "justify" anything but came out of his own pondering. You can't apply 2019 idiocy to a man who lived in 4th century BC.Indeed.Indeed what? Do you even know what you're replying to?
I've yet to see a theory incels have for their suffering other than the blackpill.
Umm, really? I don't know how you define the term "blackpill" at all but there are several explainations to why incel happens in a society that don't claim looks are a cause. Read

http://www.mikraite.org/Human-Evolution-td17.html

https://caamib.wordpress.com/the-story-of-your-incel-an-inconvenient-truth/

shows an incredible lack of awareness
Actually, you are the one with the incredible lack of awareness, equating the term that has existed since 1997 and that many people define and see differently with a stupid sub culture that appeared in 2016. If you actually read https://caamib.wordpress.com/2018/06/05/dissecting-the-disaster-how-the-term-incel-got-taken-over-by-the-worst-people-and-what-to-do-about-it/ you'd see that this all started when a bunch of morons from sites like Lookism and Sluthate overtook the term after Caamib was banned from Reddit. His way of running things was different and focused on rape, low ages of consent, Islam and positive thinking. You could have investigated and read about older incel forums, like Love-shy.com or the now defunct Incel Support to see what they're about. Instead you just blather like an idiot.
I care what they themselves actually think.
Yet you never bothered to research it at all and are showing breathtaking ignorance.

Your last sentence is also breathtakingly ignorant as we have already established that no one man can be better at anything than a very disparate group under a very disparate term.

Do I need to repeat myself? I'd call you an idiot but it would be an insult to all the idiots.

Edmund_Kemper #sexist #pedo incels.co

[News] Jimmy Kimmel accidentally tells the truth about jb, receives backlash

Jimmy Kimmel, Michael Bay face backlash after old Megan Fox interview resurfaces: ‘This is disgusting’

Lmfao what a shitty world we live in where you can't find a 15 year old with a blessed body attractive or you'll get canceled.

Even sexologists have confirmed its common to find them attractive. Most men just won’t admit it out of fear of being ostracized

How do people deny that some 16/17 year olds look as fucking mature as any other adult women with less milage? Hell, it's legal in most countries/states

According to cucks, anyone under 18 (or 21) looks like a newborn baby

He didn't even do anything wrong! what the fuck, it's not like he tried to hook up with her

And he didn’t even receive backlash back in 2009 when the interview occurred. Then suddenly backlash. Celebrities can’t do anything these days

If they tell you that just send them this quiz https://www.buildquizzes.com/QRDJMMN

Oops after learning she’s underage I, after finding her attractive, have now completely gotten rid of my attraction to her

It's funny how 10 years ago you would have been called crazy for saying elites bang teens, and maybe even younger, because they can get away with it. Now even the general public is sleuthing.

Famous men used to date jbs

Welcome to :feelsclown: world

According to IT, women peak at 30

We are quite literally evolved to be attracted to prime females, it's natural. At the same time, the ITfags claiming faggotry is natural call our urges unnatrual

Homosexuality is completely natural but attraction to a post-pubescent 17 year old woman is unnatural. JFL at bluepilled logic. According to IT, 17 year olds look like toddlers but if you look up any 12th grade yearbook on google images they all look 21 or even 25

Childless women over 30 should be executed. They are a waste of oxygen.

Single moms in their 30s should be too

Wotans Krieger #fundie aryan-myth-and-metahistory.blogspot.co.uk

I know of no sane woman unless she be a lesbian or a feminist (often the same thing) who would object to be whistled at. Sounds like more sour grapes from short haired severe looking late middle-aged and old women who resent attractive young women getting a bit of attention! Oh and bugger me but I just googled the woman concerned and yes she does have a severe short hair cut but no, she is young! Is that me being 'prejudiced' do you think? I wonder if this new 'hate crime' definition with regards to wolf whistling also applies to women wolf whistling women or women wolf whistling men?

What Orwellian double speak is this? So a 'hate crime' is not necessarily a 'criminal offence' but is nonetheless a 'crime'! I wonder when did the English Houses of Parliament debate this issue, never mind pass any laws on this matter? So it would seem that Nottingham Police has taken over the role of Parliament and introduced their own non-law laws! (Work that one out if you can!) What a pity that Police resources are once again being directed at enforcing marxist political correctness than preventing and detecting real crime. As an aside the current and recently promoted Chief Constable of Nottinghamshire Police is, you have guessed it a woman. So much for the "it being a man's world" mantra which we keep hearing all the time.

Heartiste #fundie heartiste.wordpress.com

The male span of redeemable sexual attractiveness is, on average, 20 to 30 years longer than the female span of sexual attractiveness. This isn’t to claim that the typical 50-year-old man will arouse the typical 20-year-old woman. But it is accurate to say that that 50-year-old man has a lot more options for love than would his 50-year-old female peer. He can genuinely drive a younger woman to ecstasy, whereas a 25-year-old woman is already starting to sexually bore her man.

Saddam #sexist incels.co

Women HATE "older" men

I remember testing this a few times on my old Chadfish account. The idea that young foids like old men is an absolutely hilariously stupid concept. Even with the EXACT SAME PHOTOS, I remember the difference between telling the girls (college aged) that the Chad was 20 vs 25 was insane. At 25, the amount of "ew" or "creeper" messages he'd get would be unbelievable, often shit like "lol why are you even on here tho". And this is a good looking MALE MODEL, and who is only fucking 25 lmao. Not 30, 35 or even fucking 40+ like those idiots at /r/TheRedPill would try to have you believe.

It's the biggest fucking cope out there. Women are attracted to YOUNG men, the same way men are attracted to YOUNG women. Youth is beauty, and beauty is attractiveness. Frankly women find guys who are single past college-aged and creepy and disgusting, not fucking attractive or "free" lmao.

Anonymous Coward #conspiracy godlikeproductions.com

Decoding WTC Oculus Fall Hoax

Some Tarot decks have an all seeing eye (oculus) on The Tower card.

"Like most of the tarot cards from the Crowley Thoth Deck, there is much Egyptian symbolism on the card, like that big eye which is what struck me first. The Eye, which is the eye of Horus, is an Egyptian symbol for the God of Perception. "It represents the state of awakening and of seeing the deeper and authentic aspects of self."

Other decks feature people falling from the tower much like Santos did. It's like they took liberty with mixing in the symbolism. The Tower is the first card on The Economist cover.

Santos means "saints" and the Tower card is usually interpreted as major sudden change and newfound insight. This is consistent with the interpretations given for the Oroville dam (flood of insight) and activation of nobodies in Emerald City. Son of Man (Horus) sews the congregation of saints.

"Daniel 7:13-14 describes how the "Ancient of Days" (God) gives dominion over the earth to "one like a son of man," who is later explained by Jewish scholars as standing for "the saints of the Most High" (7:18, 21-22) and "the people of the saints of the Most High" (7:27). The "saints" and "people of the saints" in turn probably stand for the people of Israel ? the author is expressing the hope that God will take dominion over the world away from the beast-like "nations" and give it to human-like Israel."

The Oculus was "nearly empty"... of course it was, it needed to be to pull off this hoax:

"Her sister accidentally dropped the hat as the pair headed for home inside the nearly empty Oculus about 90 minutes before sunrise, sources said."

Horus the rising sun is coming! Santos fell 30 ft and was 29 years old, just shy of 30. 30 is the age the allegorical Jesus/Horus started his ministry. The zodiacal signs are 30 degrees each so a new sign is entered every 30 degrees (transition to Age of Aquarius).

Most news articles have Santos pictured in a red dress. All I can think about is "the woman in the red dress" from The Matrix. She distracted Neo while Morpheus was educating him on what the matrix is.

The pillars of the WTC gave way to a One WTC representing balance of opposites. Masonic tracing boards have the pillars of Jachin/Boaz (WTC North and South) representing masculine and feminine energies. There is also a middle pillar (One WTC) toped by the all seeing eye of Horus representing balance or the middle path. This hoax seems to be saying that balance of opposites will soon be achieved.

Using twins (what are the odds?! rofl) in this hoax at least points two the two pillars. Remember also that Saturn was in Gemini the Twins when the WTC was opened to the public in 1973 and closed on 9/11.

Precious Parker & Sabrina James #racist nydailynews.com

Two Brooklyn women tired of 'white people moving into the area' force tenants out at gunpoint, then squat in apartment.

Precious Parker, 30, and Sabrina James, 23, were arrested Saturday after they allegedly kicked two men and a woman out of an Ocean Ave. apartment on Thursday. Authorities say the crime was partly motivated by race and class resentment.

Two women were arrested after they robbed and then intimidated three tenants out of their Brooklyn apartment — and the crime was partly motivated by race and class resentment, law enforcement sources said.

Precious Parker, 30, and Sabrina James, 23, knocked on the door of an apartment building on Ocean Ave. near Newkirk Ave. in Flatbush at 9:30 p.m. on Thursday and held a 34-year-old man, a 37-year-old man, and a 25-year-old woman at gunpoint demanding they move out or be killed, police said.

The women then stole $800, an iPhone and personal information from the tenants, police said.

The terrified residents left soon after, said a night porter, who declined to give his name.

“They just left,” he said. “They said somebody wants to kill them.”

The usurpers then squatted in the apartment, a law enforcement source said.

The source added the trio may have been targeted because of their race, as one of the women said she didn’t like “that white people were moving into the area,” the police source said.

Both women were arrested Saturday in the apartment and charged with robbery and unlawful imprisonment, police said.

Cops recovered a handgun, a law enforcement source said.

Roosh Valizadeh #fundie returnofkings.com

It was Joe’s first date with Mary. He asked her what she wanted in life and she replied, “I want to establish my career. That’s the most important thing to me right now.” Undeterred that she had no need for a man in her life, Joe entertained her with enough funny stories and cocky statements that she soon allowed him to lightly pet her forearm.

At the end of the date, he locked arms with her on the walk to the subway station, when two Middle Eastern men on scooter patrol accosted them and said they were forbidden to touch. “This is Sharia zone,” they said in heavily accented English, in front of a Halal butcher shop. Joe and Mary felt bad that they offended the two men, because they were trained in school to respect all religions but that of their ancestors. One of the first things they learned was that their white skin gave them extra privilege in life which must be consciously restrained at all times. Even if they happened to disagree with the two men, they could not verbally object because of anti-hate laws that would put them in jail for religious discrimination. They unlocked arms and maintained a distance of three feet from each other.

Unfortunately for Joe, Mary did not want to go out with him again, but seven years later he did receive a message from her on Facebook saying hello. She became vice president of a company, but could not find a man equal to her station since women now made 25% more than men on average. Joe had long left the country and moved to Thailand, where he married a young Thai girl and had three children. He had no plans on returning to his country, America.

If cultural collapse occurs in the way I will now describe, the above scenario will be the rule within a few decades. The Western world is being colonized in reverse, not by weapons or hard power, but through a combination of progressivism and low reproductive rates. These two factors will lead to a complete cultural collapse of many Western nations within the next 200 years. This theory will show the most likely mechanism that it will proceed in America, Canada, UK, Scandinavia, and Western Europe.

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The Cultural Collapse Progression

1. Removal of religious narrative from people’s lives, replaced by a treadmill of scientific and technological “progress.”

2. Elimination of traditional sex roles through feminism, gender equality, political correctness, cultural Marxism, and socialism.

3. Delay or abstainment of family formation by women to pursue careerist lifestyles while men wait in confused limbo.

4. Decreasing birth rate among native population.

5. Government enactment of open immigration policies to prevent economic collapse.

6. Immigrant refusal to fully acclimate, forcing host culture to adopt external rituals and beliefs while being out-reproduced.

7. Natives becoming marginalized in their own country.

1. Removal of religious narrative

Religion has been a powerful restraint for millennia in preventing humans from pursuing their base desires and narcissistic tendencies so that they satisfy a god. Family formation is the central unit of most religions, possibly because children increase membership at zero marginal cost to the church (i.e. they don’t need to be recruited).

Religion may promote scientific ignorance, but it facilitates reproduction by giving people a narrative that places family near the center of their existence.[1] [2] [3] After the Enlightenment, the rapid advance of science and its logical but nihilistic explanations into the universe have removed the religious narrative and replaced it with an empty narrative of scientific progress, knowledge, and technology, which act as a restraint and hindrance to family formation, allowing people to pursue individual goals of wealth accumulation or hedonistic pleasure seeking.[4] As of now, there has not been a single non-religious population that has been able to reproduce above the death rate.[5]

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2. Elimination of traditional sex roles

Once religion no longer plays a role in people’s lives, the stage is set to fracture male-female bonding. It is collectively attacked by several ideologies stemming from the beliefs of Cultural Marxist theory, which serve to accomplish one common end: destruction of the family unit so that citizens are dependent on the state. They achieve this goal through the marginalization of men and their role in society under the banner of “equality.”[6] With feminism pushed to the forefront of this umbrella movement, the drive for equality ends up being a power grab by women.[7] This attack is performed on a range of fronts:

medicating boys from a young age with ADHD drugs to eradicate displays of masculinity[8]
shaming of men for having direct sexual interest in attractive and fertile women
criminalization of normal male behavior by redefining some instances of consensual sex as rape[9]
imprisonment of unemployed fathers for non-payment of child support, rendering them destitute and unable to be a part of their children’s lives[10]
taxation of men at higher rates for redistribution to women[11] [12]
promotion of single mother and homosexual lifestyles over that of the nuclear family[13] [14]

The end result is that men, confused about their identify and averse to state punishment from sexual harassment, “date rape,” and divorce proceedings, make a rational decision to wait on the sidelines.[15] Women, still not happy with the increased power given to them, continue their assault on men by instructing them to “man up” into what has become an unfair deal—marriage. The elevation of women above men is allowed by corporations, which adopt “girl power” marketing to expand their consumer base and increase profits.[16] [17] Governments also allow it because it increases their tax revenue. Because there is money to be made with women working and becoming consumers, there is no effort by the elite to halt this development.
3. Women begin to place career above family

At the same time men are emasculated as mere “sperm donors,” women are encouraged to adopt the career goals, mannerisms, and competitive lifestyles of men, inevitably causing them to delay marriage, often into an age where they can no longer find suitable husbands who have more resources than themselves. [18] [19] [20] [21] The average woman will find it exceedingly difficult to balance career and family, and since she has no concern of getting “fired” from her family, who she may see as a hindrance to her career goals, she will devote an increasing proportion of time into her job.

Female income, in aggregate, will soon match or exceed that of men.[22] [23] [24] A key reason that women historically got married was to be economically provided for, but this reason will no longer persist and women will feel less pressure or motivation to marry. The burgeoning spinster population will simply be a money-making opportunity for corporations to market to an increasing population of lonely women. Cat and small dog sales will rise.

Women succumb to their primal sexual and materialistic urges to live the “Sex and the City” lifestyle full of fine dining, casual sex, technological bliss, and general gluttony without learning traditional household skills or feminine qualities that would make them attractive wives.[25] [26] Men adapt to careerist women in a rational way by doing the following:

to sate their natural sexual desires, men allow their income to lower since economic stability no longer provides a draw to women in their prime[27]
they mimic “alpha male” social behavior to get laid with women who, without having an urgent need for a man’s monetary resources to survive, can choose men based on confidence, aesthetics, and general entertainment value[28]
they withdraw into a world of video games and the internet, satisfying their own base desires for play and simulated hunting[29] [30]

Careerist women who decide to marry will do so in a hurried rush around 30 because they fear growing old alone, but since they are well past their fertility peak[31], they may find it difficult to reproduce. In the event of successful reproduction at such a later age, fewer children can be born before biological infertility, limiting family size compared to the historical past.

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Cultural decline begins in earnest when the natives feel shame or guilt for who they are, their history, their way of life, and where their ancestors came from. They will let immigrant groups criticize their customs without protest, or they simply embrace immigrant customs instead with religious conversion and interethnic marriages. Nationalistic pride will be condemned as a “far-right” phenomenon and popular nationalistic politicians will be compared to Hitler. Natives learn the art of self-censorship, limiting the range of their speech and expressions, and soon only the elderly can speak the truths of the cultural decline while a younger multiculturalist within earshot attributes such frankness to senility or racist nostalgia.

With the already entrenched environment of political correctness (see stage 2), the local culture becomes a sort of “world” culture that can be declared tolerant and progressive as long as there is a lack of criticism against immigrants, multiculturalism, and their combined influence. All cultural identity will eventually be lost, and to be “American” or “British,” for example, will no longer have modern meaning from a sociological perspective. Native traditions will be eradicated and a cultural mixing will take place where citizens from one world nation will be nearly identical in behavior, thought, and consumer tastes to citizens of another. Once a collapse occurs, it cannot be reversed. The nation’s cultural heritage will be forever lost.

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How To Stop Cultural Collapse

Maintaining native birth rates while preventing the elite from allowing immigrant labor is the most effective means at preventing cultural collapse. Since multiculturalism is an experiment with no proven efficacy, a culture can only be maintained by a relatively homogenous group who identify with each other. When that homogeneity breaks down and one citizen looks to the next and does not see a person with the same values as himself, the culture falls in dis-repair as native citizens begin to lose a shared means of communication and identity. Once the percentage of the immigrant population crosses a certain threshold (perhaps 15%), the decline will pick up in pace and cultural breakdown will be readily apparent to all observers.

Current policies to solve low birth rates through immigration is a short-term fix with dire long-term consequences. In effect, it’s a Trojan-horse prescription of irreversible cultural destruction. A state must prevent itself from entering the position where mass immigration is considered a solution by blocking progressive ideologies from taking hold. One way this can be done is through the promotion of a state-sponsored religion which encourages the nuclear family instead of single motherhood and homosexuality. However, introducing religion as a mainstay of citizen life in the post-enlightenment era may be impossible.

We must consider that the scientific era is an evolutionary maladaptive feature of humanity that natural selection will accordingly punish (i.e. those who are anti-religious and pro-science will simply breed less). It must also be considered that with religion in permanent decline, cultural collapse may be a certainty that eventually occurs in all developed nations. Religion, it may turn out, was evolutionary beneficial to the human race.

Another possible solution is to foster a patriarchal society where men serve as strong providers. If you encourage the development of successful men who possess indispensable skills and therefore resources that are lacked by females, there will be women below their station who want to marry and procreate with them, but if strong women are produced instead, marriage and procreation is unlikely to take place at levels above the death rate.

A gap between the sexes should always exist in the favor of men if procreation is to occur at high rates, or else you’ll have something similar to the situation in America where urban professional women cannot find “good men” to begin a family with (i.e., men who are significantly more financially successful than them). They instead remain single and barren, only used occasionally by cads for exciting casual sex.

Human Stupidity #sexist google.no

Have you heard of unbiased, peer reviewed academic research?

Take genealogy, history. Take the Bible and the Koran: All over history, men have married 15 year olds, 12 year olds, as the norm. Check anthropology: at what age do women in Hunter-Gatherer societies marry? And what age men do these women prefer? 12 year old boys or over 20 or over 30 year old powerful experienced men?

Then look at Charlie Chaplin. Rock stars in the 1970’s. Hugh Hefner. Men who get admired by adolescent girls.

Then check psychology: Show men the photos or video clips of 15 year old girls, tell them they are 19 (to overcome the ingrained fear of jail bait). See if they are interested or if they find these girls repulsive. You can even check with contraptions that measure penile growth, excitement.

This is how one does science. Your knee jerk reaction can not change past history.

Sadly, through feminist world dominance, feelings like yours did change the history of the last 50 years and of I dont know how many years ahead.

But, as long as it does not become criminalized, a few people like me will insist on telling the truth.

Steve Jabba #sexist #fundie #crackpot stevejabba.com

Socio Sexual Hierarchy : What Rank Are YOU?

What Is The Socio Sexual Hierarchy?
The socio sexual hierarchy was a term originally coined by Vox Day to describe where men fit on the socio sexual totem pole. Just as in nature, there is a hierarchy, where the guys at the top tend to get the most attractive women in the greatest numbers.

A key point to note is that the socio sexual hierarchy as it was originally intended was based on patterns of behaviour. These patterns of behaviour tend to lead to outcomes such as social success and success with women. We’ll get into that more later.

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The Socio Sexual Hierarchy Ranks (Top To Bottom)

Alpha : Often physically imposing (tall, handsome) and confident.

[Picture of Donald Trump]

A good phrase to capture the essence of an Alpha is that they suck all the energy in a room.

The most famous example of an Alpha male that springs to mind in 2019 is president Donald Trump.

Alphas usually do very well financially and with women and alongside high functioning Sigmas tend to sleep with the most attractive women in the greatest numbers. They usually insert themselves in a social scene and dominate by virtue of their powerful personality and social skills. You’ll often find that Alphas get success with women by their place in the social hierarchy and social status.

You will rarely see Alphas that would choose to do Daygame, for example. That’s not how they meet women.
Positives : social success, financial successs, success with women.

Downsides : Alpha males care about their place in the hierarchy and are sensitive to criticism (especially from women), whereas Sigmas are indifferent. Often their focus on winning and being on top means they are prone to walking all over other people and not being mindful of other people’s feelings.
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Sigma – Sigmas share some qualities with the alpha, such as self confidence, but they tend to be way more introverted and do not thrive on social attention.
[Picture of Han Solo]

They do not want to be a leader as an alpha does, and often shun social groups.

Whereas Alphas can make friends with anyone and intimately understand social hierarchies and alliances, Sigmas go their own way and usually form very close friendships with few people which tend to last for life.

The 2 key traits of the Sigma Male : Very attractive to women. Outside the hierarchy.

Because of this, Sigmas will often gravitate towards activities like Daygame, or solo game. They tend not to enjoy socialising or indeed having contact with those they don’t respect or wish to spend time with, so high functioning and intelligent Sigmas will seek to get out of the hierarchy as much as possible, by finding their own source of income that doesn’t involve having to perform a conventional job.

Sigmas do not acknowledge the social hierarchy or pay it any attention. They can be frustrating for Alphas because they tend to look them in the eye and show that they have no interest in the Alphas social status or any respect for it.

[…]

The article you are reading and all the content on my website is written by a Sigma Male (me). My book Primal Seduction and video series Secret Society explain how a Sigma can leverage his natural tendencies to get success with women.

Postitives : Do what they want, live the life they want, not affected by the opinions of others.

Downsides : Can take introversion too far and become socially isolated. Can experience periods of intense lonliness if they spend too much time alone and don’t actively approach women, which can mean long dry spells.
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Beta : Betas are probably the happiest rank overall. They are like the lieutenant to the Alpha.
[Screenshot of Maverick from Top Gun]
They are also confident, but don’t have quite as much swagger and are less prone to boasting than Alpha Males. If you look at Donald Trumps famous tweets as President of the United States, it’s a fascinating insight into the mind of an Alpha. Were Trump a Beta, you’d see far less boasting and bragadocio on his Twitter feed.

Betas actually have the most stable existence with the best cost / reward ratio. They can thrive in hierarchies, they can get attractive women, and they don’t need to engage in all the risk taking and status jockeying of the Alpha. For this reason, there are far more Beta’s than genuine Alphas.

Many guys hear the expression “Beta Male” and get the wrong end of the stick. The Beta’s have a pretty sweet set up!

Advantages : happy life, high position in the socio sexual hierarchy.
Downsides : Always playing second fiddle to the alphas and they know it.

Delta : The average guy. Most men are Deltas. These are the guys that keep society running smoothly.
[Picture of a pilot from the 1980 movie Airplane!]
They tend to be average looking, with nothing particularly striking phyically or mentally (they tend to hover around the mean in terms of IQ). Think of Deltas as “worker bees”. Whilst less glamorous than their higher counterparts, they have a pretty happy existence as they are often happy with their lot.

Whilst Deltas do have some limited success with women (on average 6-10 lifetime partners or less), they do not really understand women and view them somewhat fearfully. They tend to give up on women earlier on in life and settle with a midrange woman, and are by and large happy with this arrangement, not wanting to spend too much time or energy in figuring out the opposite sex.

Advantages : They get the job done, everyone tends to like Deltas.
Downsides : Often pedestalize women, (which women really hate!).

Gamma – Probably the most disliked of all the archetypes by both men and women (Sigmas in particular cannot stand Gamma Males).
[Grima Wormtongue from Lord of the Rings]
Gammas live a life of dishonesty both to themselves and others. They construct a powerful delusion bubble and think of themselves as “Secret Kings”, who will one day get all the rewards of the Alpha when the world finds out how talented and powerful they really are.

They believe themselves to be worthy of adulation and praise (especially from women), and alternate between pedestaliation of women (usually by a girl who is unwise enough to smile at them), or outright hatred of the entire female race. Gamma rage and reality denying are a very real and scary phenomena.

They are often unattractive physically, if not because of genetics but also because they are too lazy and conceited to accept their flaws and get to work on ironing them out.

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Factors That Affect Your Place In The Socio Sexual Hierarchy

Appearance : It should be pretty obvious to most but it’s worth mentioning. Your appearance does have an impact on your socio sexual ranking. The number one thing any guy can do regardless of his archetype to improve here is to get physically fit, strong and well built. I don’t think anyone would deny that muscles are a universally attractive masculine trait.

Location : Where you are in the world can affect your place in the socio sexual hierarchy. If you were born in the UK or USA (for example), you would naturally have a higher place in the socio sexual hierarchy if you moved to Bolivia (for example). This is known as geography arbitrage (actually, it isn’t , I just made that up.)

It’s not just that you would have more money than the locals. It’s that you look different and might well be perceived as exotic (there are some parts of the world where pasty white skin is considered exotic, believe it or not!)

Game : Game, or behaviour can have a big impact on your place in the socio sexual hierarchy. This is why the concept of the rank is based on patterns of behaviour rather than just physical appearance. There is no single bigger predictor of sexual success than simply upping your game (or displaying more universally attractive masculine traits), and putting yourself in front of more women.

Vaughn Ohlman #fundie rawstory.com

John Calvin defines the “flower of her age” (1 Corinthians 7:36) as “from twelve to twenty years of age”. Likewise, John Gill defines it as “one of twelve years and a half old”. And Martin Luther says, “A young man should marry at the age of twenty at the latest, a young woman at fifteen to eighteen…” We do not endorse marriage at ages as young as twelve. Our position is that, for a woman:

1. The ‘youth’ ready for marriage has breasts. A woman who is to be married is one who has breasts; breasts which signal her readiness for marriage, and breasts who promise enjoyment for her husband. (We believe that ‘breasts’ here stand as a symbol for all forms of full secondary sexual characteristics.)

2. The ‘youth’ ready for marriage is ready to bear children. Unlike modern society Scripture sees the woman as a bearer, nurser, and raiser of children. The ‘young woman’ is the woman whose body is physically ready for these things, physically mature enough to handle them without damage.

3. The ‘youth’ ready for marriage is one who is ready for sexual intercourse sexually and emotionally. Her desire is for her husband, and she is ready to rejoice in him physically.

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[W]e know from scientific studies (as well as first-hand knowledge, in many cases) that the fertility of women (and even men, to some extent) goes down steadily after the age of 20, and dips even more sharply after 30 and 40. This is even more the case if a woman has reached such an age without having had any children yet. So, by reason of these facts, it is clear that it is best to marry much earlier than 30 to better fulfill the command to be “fruitful and multiply”.

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Scripture speaks of the father of the son “taking a wife” for his son, and the father of the bride “giving” her to her husband…. It gives example after example of young women being given to young men, without the young woman even being consulted, and often, in some of the most Godly marriages in Scripture, the young man is not consulted….

Some use the idea of “consent” to deny the very relevance of the action of their authorities to bind them in covenant, as if a covenant was of no effect whatsoever and all that matters is what the person themselves decide. Others consider a covenant to be something substantial but that it is not really binding until the person themselves “consents”.

In contrast, our study of Scripture has shown that the Word of God considers a covenant made by an authority to be meaningful and binding upon the those under his or her authority. Biblical consent is not the “consent” of dating or courtship. It is not a “veto” power. It does not presume to cast judgment over their father’s actions. And so, a lack of consent of the individual concerned is a choice of disobedience, a breach of a vow and of a relationship. God has designed the marriage relationship (in particular that of the virgin daughter marrying the virgin son) to be a relationship initiated by the parents, in particular the fathers, of the young couple. This is the example that God uses constantly in Scripture, and even where an example strays from this, these principles are still kept in focus.

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Bride price: What is it, and why is it important? Wouldn’t a bride price be like selling your daughter? A “bride price” is anything paid or given by the man or his representative at the time of his betrothal or receiving his bride.

Scripture certainly teaches about it, but it is not mandated, however, except in the case of a couple of laws. The law concerning bride price (Exodus 22:16-17) indicates that part of the punishment for fornication with an unbetrothed woman is the payment of a “standard” bride price for virgins, indicating that the bride price was a normal part of the marriage process.

The bride price plays a significant function: It shows the woman’s value, and the point isn’t that the father gets the money but that he keeps it for his daughter, if her husband should ever abandon her

various incels #sexist reddit.com

(Adolf__HitIer)
>Women can smell your misogy---

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(Ultramegasaurus)
Chaddington radiation jams the creep radar.

(MgtowNoFapGnostic)
Story:

‘He treated me like a princess,’ Coleen said. ‘He was the model boyfriend, he’d bring me a picnic at work for lunch and I would come home to dinner made and a bath run for me.

‘I knew that he had been convicted of assaulting an ex-partner but I thought that our relationship was different.’

(BasedTruecel)
HAHAHA, are women really that stupid? Do they really think people just magically change? No. Once an alcoholic, always an alcoholic. Once an abuser, always an abuser. People don't fucking change.

(refmd)
i thought reddit said incels posting on a forum are the biggest threat to women though

(sepelion)
They'd rather take Chad's fist in their face than the judgement of incels in their eyes.

(xxxrivenmainxxx)
yes these virgin incels who somehow manage to stay virgin but still rape women.

(Inceldemographic)
Chad beats woman = not abuse

incel gives flowers to woman = abuse

(quirkyschoolgirl)
That's why I cant take normies seriously. Noone can tell what you're thinking or feeling internally when they meet you. Especially not simpleton lemmings like roasties lol. Literally every roastie has an abusive relationship story before settling for a beta bux

(PM_ME_ROASTIES)
Yep. Almost every young woman has a story of "always falling for jerks" and how most of her boyfriends "turn out to be douchebags". It's a cliche at this point. And they always tell these stories in such a self-pitying tone of voice as well, as if they were "tricked" into opening their legs for these males.

You'd think that women would realise that if most men they chose to enter a relationship with later turned out to be shit, they'd accept the fact that they are utterly terrible at judging men's characters.

(Womencantlove)
Women prefer power over common sense. Women prefer power more than kindness.

They all say the same shit: "its whats on the inside that counts" meanwhile they all fuck the most powerful men they can get their hands on, no matter how shitty his personality. They tell their good guy husbands and boyfriends they love them while cheating with powerful men or even openly cucking them in so called progressive "open relationships".

Men need to wake up. Women are shit. Good for fucking but thats it.

(-SaintDaniel)
While this guy beats up girls, I am a person who doesn't say one word towards a woman, because I am afraid that it will be interpreted the wrong way.

Since everything you might say to a woman could be perceived as inappropriate and thus prosecutable, I've never spoken with a woman outside a professional environment. No wonder I am still a virgin at the age of 30.

Meanwhile, women are allowed to say anything to me, because no matter how hurtful it might be, I have "to take it lightly" and I have "to man up".

LeviJoi #fundie reddit.com

16 year old prime jb lays the redpill: "The only thing I can find physically attractive about a guy is his FACE".

I still someties encounter people here (not sure if they are incel or not) who explicitly deny that women are attracted to looks. This is such a ridiculous view to hold that I am laughing in real life as I can't believe someone can be that stupid. Women's attraction is 100% looks based, to claim that women are less visual than men is nothing short of retarded. If anything, women are more visual than men. Without further ado, right from the horses mouth:

I don't know if this is the place to put this, but I don't know where else I could put this. I have a hard time explaining it, but I'll try my hardest to describe my feelings. Okay, I am a 16 year old straight girl and I am having a bit of a problem with my realization about my sexual attraction to guys. I do like guys, only have crushes on guys, and have never had any romantic or sexual attraction to girls. Yet, I just realized that I am not sexually attracted to the male body. I don't feel any desire or anything when I see a guy's body whether he is fat, fit, or thin. The only thing I can find physically attractive about a guy is his face. I know this may sound weird or stupid, but I don't know how else to describe this. I came to this realization whenever I was at a slumber party with my friends (all girls) and some began to talk about their celebrity crushes and talked about how ripped or fit they guys were. They turned to me and asked which celebrity had the hottest body and I just found myself thinking and eventually realized I didn't find a guy's body hot. I answered Zac Efron because one of the other girls had talked about him before they asked me, but I am just so confused right now.

Oh so it might be just this one girl since her friends seem to be into Zac Effron. Let's see Zac Effron and see why these girls love him so much, his body must be impressive. Sure, he seems to have a relatively nice body but I've seen better. But wait, what else do you notice. Oh no, it's HIS FUCKING FACE. Weird that they are not attracted to some early 20s norwooding bodybuilder but Zac Effron. This is because your FACE comes before your body. Of course your body matters too, but your FACE always comes FIRST. IF A WOMAN IS NOT ATTRACTED TO YOUR FACE, SHE WILL NOT BE CAPABLE OF FEELING ANYTHING FOR YOU. Empathy? Fuck no, she wants you dead she could care less if Zac Effron started smashing your subhuman skull with a huge brick. LOVE? Lol, do I even need to comment. Women's love is skin-deep. If you are not facially in the top 20% of all guys they can only hate you.

I looked up my problem on google but all I could find was an asexual forum talking about their sexuality. I can't be asexual, right? I'm attracted to guy's facial aesthetics, just not their bodies. I know I'm not lesbian because I have never felt that way towards another girl. I am somewhat of prude, I suppose, >I am of Christian faith and my family is moderately conservative. I dug deeper on the web and found some people suggesting that women who feel this way may have a hormonal/chemical imbalance however, I don't know if that's true. I am wondering if maybe I'm just at that age where everything is awkward or is this something more. Can anyone else relate to my feelings? Is it normal for a girl my age to feel this way? Is it possible that I am just more of a face person rather than a body person? I hope I didn't confuse anyone too much, I am having trouble explaining it myself. Thank you for any replies and/or advice.

So why is she so confused then? It's because people constantly tell lies such as that "personality matters" and that women should be looking for a guy who will respect them and love them for who they are and such other bullshit. But the fact is that women are nothing but drones looking for the best genetic specimen to inseminate them. That's it, that's all there is to women, which is why they appear borderline retarded in most cases. Women ARE sex objects when you think about it as much as everyone tries to push that they are not. Women are not capable of any independent thought beyond judging whether a guy is attractive. And they don't even understand it themselves, they won't be able to tell you why they find someone attractive, they just know they do. They don't care if you slam them, beat them or whatever, all that women care is that you are facially attractive and that you fuck them.

If you don't look like Zac Effron, don't bother trying to approach women, not even the ugliest ones because they will reject you. Women are practically Gods right now. There is no greater advantage you can have in life than being born with a vagina. Also just to mention one thing again, women are retarded.

W. F. Price #sexist web.archive.org

There’s been a major shift in the public attitude concerning what is proper sex since the sexual revolution of the 1960s. When I was a kid in the 1980s, it was already taken for granted that sexual mores from earlier times were outdated, and only backwards dinosaurs adhered to them. For example, the idea that there’s anything wrong with extramarital sex has been laughed at for decades now. Additionally, old taboos concerning other sexual activities, despite clear evidence of their danger in the form of AIDS, divorce, etc., were portrayed as out of date and oppressive. Pornography was deemed legitimate political speech and therefore a right, and obscenity laws repealed.

To listen to the supporters of the sexual revolution, you’d think this would have led us to some sexual utopia where everyone’s sexual needs are met with no problem, but the human impulse to control sexuality returned in fairly short order, only in a different form. The result is that today, we still face a great – perhaps even greater – amount of control where sex is concerned, and a lot more people are locked up for sex crimes than in the bad old days of “oppression.” What compounds this problem is that it’s possible that even more men are sexually repressed now than a hundred years ago.

Today, there are essentially two kinds of bad sex: “nonconsensual” sex and sex with underage people. The bad actors in this regime are overwhelmingly male for a couple reasons. First, forcible rape is far more likely to be committed by males than females, for obvious reasons. Secondly, men generally prefer younger partners and women older. One could argue that prostitution remains in the “bad sex” category, but prostitution is increasingly held to be an example of male sexual exploitation. Examples from Superbowl sex hysteria and the Secret Service scandal highlight this. Essentially, prostitution has begun to fall under the nonconsensual or rape category. Pioneering Swedish legislation that only punishes johns for prostitution transactions will probably be introduced in the US soon, and then the process will be complete.

While only a few fringe characters have ever argued that rape or pedophilia is justifiable, what’s wrong with all this is that practically no female sexual behavior is currently seen as negative, whereas men are responsible for almost all of what’s deemed bad sex. Not all that long ago, this was far from the case. While rape has always been seen as the most serious sex crime, neither fornication nor adultery were held to be innocent activities, and women were seen as equal participants in these acts. In fact, in the majority of cases, a woman was just as responsible for “bad sex” as a man. Where prostitution was concerned, females were held to be more responsible than their clients, just as drug dealers are held to higher level of accountability than drug buyers, because they profit from the transaction.

However, lest we try to draw parallels, it should be recognized that most of what society considered bad sex was not criminalized until relatively recently. Fornication, sodomy, prostitution and adultery were definitely frowned upon, but they were not typically formally punished until the Victorian era. In the US, it wasn’t until the mid-20th century that these laws were widespread and regularly enforced. Nevertheless, people were a lot more careful about engaging in these activities, because social consequences could be severe.

Since then, aside from a brief period from the late 60s to early 70s when there was a sort of sexual free-for-all in the West, we’ve seen a steady crackdown on male sexuality combined with a loosening of restrictions on female sexuality. What has happened is that the entire burden of sexual control has been increasingly foist upon men, while women’s load has been lightened.

Probably the most important and liberating change for women has been the relaxation of the social prohibition on fornication. In the old days, fornication was definitely seen as bad sex. A loose woman was considered socially irresponsible and wicked for a number of reasons. She could lure a husband from his wife, seduce a young, naive man and capture him in a marriage against his interests, and have illegitimate children who became a burden on the community. Such a woman was not seen as marriage material. In general, men preferred virgin brides. Today, of course, the virgin bride is as rare as the horse and buggy.

A lot of men might say we have it a lot better than in those times, because “sex is easy and available” now whereas it used to be more difficult to obtain. I’m not sure I agree. Fornication is as much a risk for men as ever, and probably more so, because now only men are held responsible for the consequences. Get a woman pregnant and it’s on you. Sleep with a couple women, make one angry and jealous, and you risk a rape accusation. Sleeping with a married woman is another good way to get accused of rape if she changes her mind and decides to stay with her husband. Sleep with a woman who said she was 19, she turns out to be 17, and you’re in trouble. Visit a prostitute and you could be arrested or, if she tells the press, lose your career. There isn’t much of a difference from the old days, and you’re more likely to face jail time for slipping up. For men, fornication is clearly still bad sex. Possibly even more so than it was when it was generally recognized as such.

For women, on the other hand, the benefits are clear. Fornication has virtually no social consequences and the most minimal of risks. Pregnancies can be easily avoided, and if wanted the man will be forced to pay child support whether he committed or not. Male lovers can be easily controlled and kept in line, and as many taken as any woman pleases. Women even go so far as to proudly march in slutwalks to further demand rights to behave sexually in any manner they please. The slutwalk was actually very clear in demanding more of the status quo, i.e. less control of female sexuality and more control of male. For women, particularly young and attractive ones, this has been a real bonanza. But what has it done for society?

Let’s see…

Marriage rates dropping precipitously, men taking path of least resistance and dropping out, illegitimacy skyrocketing, class divisions hardening, children growing up fatherless and with fewer options. For most of us, it’s been quite negative.

I wish I could say there was a solution to the problem, but it looks pretty hopeless. The alternative to what used to be seen as bad sex – marriage – has been all but destroyed by the liberation of female sexuality and the redefinition of marriage as little more than a federal tax status; a sort of very risky corporation with arbitrary rules. The result is that for men, there is really no such thing as “good sex,” that is, socially-approved sex — it’s a risk no matter what. Furthermore, a society in which the overwhelming majority of women are fornicators gives men no choice; you just aren’t getting a wife in the traditional sense of the word, so why bother with marriage?

I think men ought to realize that we got suckered in this deal, and perhaps we should have listened to the old sages who have warned us over the centuries. We overreached in our naivete, thinking we’d get more of what we desire if we only tossed out the old attitudes, but all we ended up with was more responsibility and fewer rewards.

...

[Wait, aren't women supposed to be the uncontrollably lustful sex? Goddamn keep you misogyny lore straight]

Nah, she ruined herself. In a sane society (like most in the world), women are considered more responsible for sexual restraint, because they are better at it. It’s the same reason men are considered more responsible for fighting, carrying heavy things, etc.

Roosh V #sexist #fundie #homophobia rooshv.com

[From "6 Signs That A Woman Is In Rebellion"]

Most women you meet are in a state of rebellion. They have rejected the natural order and God, along with the notion of biological sex roles. While in rebellion, a woman will not respect the authority of a man or submit to him for long. Such a woman will be the source of great misfortune and heartache. Below are the most common signs that a woman is in rebellion.

She rejects the natural state of her body
She does not want to accept the body that was created for her. It is not beautiful or capable enough, so she begins an intensive crusade to morph herself in what trend-makers—who are in rebellion themselves—say is beautiful or capable.

In the early stages of rejecting her body, a girl will apply profuse makeup, dye her hair, or pierce her body in areas besides the earlobe. Still unsatisfied—and there is no other option for her to be unsatisfied when rejecting God’s gift—she will then adorn herself with fake nails, eyelashes, and even eyebrows. Almost always, rebellion against her natural beauty takes the form of adopting plastic beauty that is cultivated, advertised, and sold by corporations and the medical industry. Adopting their commercial wares may get her more likes on Instagram, but decreases her overall beauty to any man who is not in rebellion himself.

[...]

Obese women are in indirect rebellion from being in a state of gluttony, one of the seven deadly sins. Their proclamation of “beauty at any size” is intended more as a comforting rationalization than an attempt to attack God, but the end result is the same: she refuses the natural body she was given and morphs into a different creation.

She idolizes herself
The rebellious woman wants to be seen as a goddess or queen, and may even use those terms to describe herself. She wants to be worshipped by men and admired by women. The quality of those who worship her is less important than the quantity: her goal is to increase the number of individuals who admire her or “follow” her on social media platforms, because it provides an objective number to her goddess-like status that can be compared to others (the analog for men is sexual notch count). To learn how to be a goddess, women will eagerly follow other popular women on Instagram, mimic them, and drool over the prospect of being as popular as them. She soon becomes addicted to compliments of her appearance.

[...]

She rejects her traditions, countrymen, hometown, or nation
A woman in rebellion will be eager to run away from who she is. If she was born a Christian, she will take up yoga or be sympathetic to Islam. If she’s German, she will bring home to mom and dad an African man named Mutambo who arrived to Europe by boat. If she’s from a rural Midwestern town, she will escape to Miami or New York City. A manifestation of rebellion is to seek out the extremes, far away from what is familiar.

Whenever a woman from a foreign country slept with me, she was passing up on countless of her native men—men who shared her traditions, language, and religion, and who would make a far better long-term partner than I could. In some cases, she was directly cheating on a native man with me, her enabler and tempter. Fornicating with me was a way to reject those men and the country of her father. It’s no surprise that many foreign women I’ve slept with possess multiple rebellious qualities. While abroad, I adopted the view that if a foreign woman was quick to sleep with me, she couldn’t possibly be a suitable long-term partner.

[...]

She prefers the virtual over the real
It’s hard to carry out a successful rebellion while fixed in the real world. There is a physical limit to how many men a woman can interact with at any time. There are bodily flaws that can’t be hidden no matter how much work is done to conceal them. But in the online world, anything is possible. She can be perceived as a goddess from a shockingly high number of men who covet her photoshopped images taken at angles that camouflage her flaws. She can easily play out the fantasy of who she wants to be.

[...]

She has completely divorced sex from reproduction
The way a girl in rebellion believes she will achieve enlightenment is through her vagina or anus. She owns several sex toys and masturbates to them often. She believes being penetrated by a sexy man who doesn’t love her will fulfill her or make her happy, but as sexy as that man may be, she fears being impregnated by him because her career is not yet “established.” She has been on birth control since she was a teenager and is in favor of abortion.

[...]

She trusts in her own abilities above that of a man who loves her
God created Adam. God saw that Adam could use companionship, so He created Eve from the substance of Adam. God intended Eve to submit to Adam who then submits to God. While God gives equal blessings to men and women, he intended for women to follow the authority of men. Women in rebellion barely respect men, let alone follow them. They won’t listen to their fathers, their boyfriends, or their husbands, and will only fake submission for a short period of time when they want to deceive a man to gain a material reward. They believe that through their own knowledge and confidence, they are deciders of their fate and must only follow the result of their feelings and unseen demonic influences.

If you get involved with a woman in rebellion, you will have to suffer her punishment, just like how Adam following Eve into sin caused him to be condemned alongside her. You cannot isolate the pleasure you experience from a bad woman without also enduring the negative effects of deceit, lies, cheating, and other forms of manipulation. If a man can’t find a suitable woman, he is better off alone, because at least that fate will not lead to spiritual death as it did for Adam.

She is gay
The most severe form of rebellion is homosexuality. Such a girl has completely refused the natural order and the authority of men to develop a deep-seated hatred for both. Since a woman cannot penetrate another woman without the use of a plastic toy made in a Chinese factory, she has essentially chosen a life of masturbation in place of genuine love and intimacy.

It may seem “hot” when you see two attractive girls in a bar, but such situational bisexuality is an effort to spite God to receive attention. Indeed, stay away from harlots you only noticed because they were committing a severe act of rebellion.

Conclusion
If a girl is rebelling against God, her Creator, she will rebel against you. It’s not a matter of if, but when. Many men foolishly think they can tame a rebellious woman, but this is the same as thinking you can tame Satan himself. It’s fine if a girl who chooses against rebellion requires additional guidance or knowledge from you to stay out of rebellion, but if she’s in active rebellion, I suggest you run away unless she humbles herself before God and repents.

Most men are tempted to extract casual sex from a girl in rebellion, since she so freely gives it up, but understand that that sex act will not be free, and may haunt you for years to come while risking your salvation. Currently, I am single and can walk with Christ in peace, so I don’t feel compelled to take a risk on a woman who spits on God and sees herself as a goddess. Choose the women of your life very carefully, because your very soul may depend on it.

Fadhel Al-Sa'd #fundie youtube.com

[In a debate on Iraqi TV]

The sun circles the Earth because it is smaller than the Earth, as is evident in Koranic verses.

Have you ever seen how the sun moves? I have seen the sun moving. The sun makes one move every 24 hours.

What I say is based on Koranic science. He bases his arguments on the kind of science that I reject categorically -- the modern science that they teach in schools. This science is a heretic innovation that has no confirmation in the Koran. No verse in the Koran indicates that the Earth is round or that it rotates. Anything that has no indication in the Koran is false.

various WGTOWs #sexist reddit.com

Re: I think WGTOW and MGTOW have a *lot* more in common than both sides think, and I would argue that both group's fights are the same.

(fatfinger357)
I am quite satisfied and happy as a WGTOW but then the MGTOWs keep coming in to this sub and start brigading and hating on us. We are just women going our own way and these MGTOWs come here and they are not going their own way.
There is too much misogyny in MGTOW for there to be any peace. It is far better to just block them and shield them from life. It's far too risky to be with men, especially the MGTOW kind. Once they know you're a woman, the abuse and harassment is on you, and in real life men are more or less the same, trying to dominate you and take over and control you. It makes sense of course because men naturally produce testosterone, so that makes them violent and abusive, so it's not exactly their fault, but I feel as a woman it is safer to protect myself with WGTOW than bother with useless things like relationships.
Of course for a fat person, the "no pain no gain" principle applies. A fat person needs to eat fresh fruits and vegetables, high fiber, and they need to exercise a lot, and for a lot if people this is not easy, so they need to go through pain in order to reduce their risk of heart disease, stroke, diabetes, and cancer.
However, men are different. Men are not like losing weight. Losing weight actually achieves something. However, with men, if you put in a lot of effort to apply makeup and appease men and make them feel good and give them intimacy, then what do you get from them? Nothing. Most women spend so much time and effort on others than she neglects herself so that, as she grows up, she ends up with less wealth. I'd rather just focus on myself and do what I want rather than sacrifice myself for men. For too long women have sacrificed themselves for ungrateful men. We need to listen to what we want.

(violetreva)
That's where you're wrong! I'm sorry to disappoint you but this is a liberal fantasy and I have no intention of reassimilating into male society ever again. Women are not men. Men are not women. We are not in the same boat. Men oppress women. We do not belong together in any capacity. They can have mars and we can have venus, quite literally. Separatism FTW.

(day01x)
I was just thinking about this on reading a post in another WGTOW thread. One in particular mentioned that "men cannot conceive of a non-transactional relationship", and that everything is about "value" with them. This is the exact language used in MGTOW, too.
Men and women are 'valued' for different attributes, but they are both valued ruthlessly. You can debate the details of which particular group of people have it worse, and while that discussion may be worth having, that's not the point I want to make here.
I think what MGTOW and WGTOW have in common isn't just personal experience, it's a reaction to how brutally dehumanising society can be.
It's as though the idea of the "free market" has entered into sexual relationships. We've adopted the consumer mindset in our social lives. Social media and dating websites exacerbate this, but the mentality was developing long before. We ignore the substance of a person in favour of a good profile. We pay attention not to how they make us feel or think but on an abstract collective value, as though the only measure of their worth is how much others want them.
Think of the kind of relationships that would result from this setting. Imagine what happens to the people who don't, can't, or won't fit into that kind of environment.

(DangZagnut)
I don't hate women, I don't even hate feminism, not that I won't shit post about women or feminists posting outrageously bizarre things into the internet. I also do it with stupid men doing stupid things.
I just prefer to be by myself and traveling the world and having adventures, rather than marriage and children. Children smell and marriage seems like it limits everyone in that equation to a life of exceptional mediocrity.
I've never had a bad relationship. Sometimes they end, and in my relationships, maturely and with both sides realizing its time to move on and no hard feelings.
I encourage WGTOW to go their own way and not be bound by societal conventions. You don't have to be bitter to be WGTOW any more than you have to be hurt and bitter to be MGTOW. Sure, some come to a MGTOW conclusion because they've been hurt, and I'd wish they embraced it from a more positive place, but to each their own.
I don't see any "solution", because I don't really see any "problem" in the first place. To say that either of those exist implies that there's something inherently wrong with going your own way in life, and setting your own path to happiness.

(CasualPie)
There's a bit of difference between "I'm tired of the system because it sucks" and "I'm keeping the hell away from the system because it could legally ruin my life".
In your listing of the disaffected guys, you forgot to list the ones legally destroyed through divorce settlement, child custody arrangement, false rape/assault/abuse accusation, etc.
One of MGTOWs reasons for GTOWing isn't just that the game sucks, it's that the game is mortally dangerous and supported by the legal system.
Hunger games, relationship edition.
I am not disaffected by personal experience. I am MGTOW because of all of the failed, fucked up, and ruinous relationships I've seen in others.
Being in the army, I've seen countless relationships destroyed from women cheating and/or abusing their power of attorney while the guy is deployed. I've seen guys in college get thrown in jail for decades for hooking up with girls when they were both wasted drunk. I've heard countless guys complain that they can't do what they once loved doing because their SO/fiancée/wife doesn't like that they spend so much time on it, hell, my own mother is on her third marriage (I love my mom, but it's hard to believe in marriage when your own mother changes them out every 10-20 years)!
Worst of all, I've heard girls joke about this stuff. "Oh, if it sucks I can change my mind about it, I always have a few glasses of wine to loosen up", "if he breaks up with me I'll tell everyone he was abusive to me", "not paying attention to me is abuse right? : yeah it is!".
When society can casually joke about throwing people in jail over poor personal choices and changed minds, I will eagerly avoid it.

Currypill #sexist reddit.com

Danny Devito doesn't debunk the heightpill; Danny Devito reinforces the heightpill.

Normies often bring up Danny Devito as an example of how girls will like manlets in spite of their height as long as they have a good personality.

But here's the thing: Women are not attracted to Danny Devito. When was the last time you ever heard a woman express sexual attraction to Danny Devito? You never hear it, because women are not attracted to Danny Devito. In spite of his immense fame, wealth, and success, women are not sexually attracted to Danny Devito. Danny Devito doesn't debunk the heightpill - he confirms it.

Danny Devito did manage to marry a woman, a looksmatched fellow midget. That's as far as his extraordinary fame, wealth, and success got him - a looksmatch. If Danny Devito were of average guy, he would be incel. Even if he were in the top 1% he would be incel. Only because he is in the top 0.0001% of fame, wealth, and success was he able to get an unattractive Jewish midget to be his wife.

h3rting #sexist reddit.com

Final Message to Gymcels and Gymbro Normies (It's Over for You)

• Women care exclusively about your face
• Women do not care about your body
• Women do not look at your face and body as separate components
• Women only care about a man's body when his face is already 8+
• A muscular physique amplifies your average face
• Women think you are compensating if you are average looking and muscular
• Women are not sexually attracted to your body if your face is not 8+
• Average faced muscular men are seen as compensating for their facial shortcomings, by both men and women alike
• The average muscular gymbro is invisible
• Women are disgusted by the concept and thought of the average man spending hours in the gym trying to get bigger
• An average face with above average body is not sexually attractive to women
• Women see a good body as simply icing on the cake of an already sufficiently facially attractive male
• Women aren't lying when they say they don't care about muscles. They fucking don't. Muscles are simply a bonus that comes with a facially attractive man.
• When women say they don't care about muscle, they are saying it while picturing the average-faced gym goer or roidhead they are disgusted by
• When women think of beautiful, sexually attractive men they think of the man's face and face alone
• No woman has every dreamt about fucking your body
• Every moment you spend in the gym as a 0-6/10 male is a complete and utter waste of time
• Becoming muscular as an average man makes you look worse to women
• Women universally prefer a 6'0"+ lanky, slightly toned male model to an average looking, jacked normie
• Bodybuilders and amateur bodybuilders are repulsive to women
• You are just another faceless, average looking muscular male in a sea of invisible muscular men desperately trying to make themselves noticeable to women
• Women have their choice of men, even average to below average women. They don't want average muscular men. They want beautiful, genetically gifted men.
• Muscles amplify your genetic shortcomings

It's time to stop. This argument is over. This argument isn't about the health benefits of the gym. It's about the perceived idea that lifting weights and becoming muscular will attract women. It doesn't, unless you are an 8+, and in that case your face has already done all the work.

It's time to stop coping and deluding yourself into thinking you're not working out to make yourself more sexually attractive. Be real with yourself and realize you are wasting your time. Workout if it makes you feel better, and if it is yielding you health benefits such as weight loss/cardio for sport etc.

But it's time to give up on the idea muscles on a sub-8 male mean anything to a woman.

Give up, it's fucking over. Completely fucking over.

Ender wiggin #fundie medium.com

Pedophiles have the exact same ability to develop romantic feelings for children — to fall in love with them — as any other person has for the people they’re attracted to. Of course, a pedophile will have to be in a position where he can have a (completely appropriate) relationship with the child enough to get to know him or her in order for that to happen, and that is not always the case. Many pedophiles choose to avoid being around children for a variety of reasons, ranging from a concern that they will offend — a self-inflicted doubt instilled by the internalization of the prevailing and stigmatizing narrative that all pedophiles are child molesters or ticking time bombs waiting to explode — to a paranoia that others will find out about them if they look a little too long or awkwardly at a child, to simply wanting to avoid the pain of unrequited love, which can be hard to bear. And yet a lot of pedophiles find themselves in a situation where they have fallen in love with a child, and all they can do is suffer it in silence.

Conclusion
In summary, a pedophile’s attraction to children is virtually indistinguishable from a heterosexual man’s attraction to women or a homosexual woman’s attraction to other women. Of course there are variations in the way pedophiles experience their attraction to children, but not in a greater or lesser degree than there are variations in the way others experience their own attractions. For some it is more visceral, more physical/sexual, while for others it is much more emotional, and even paternal in many cases. Pedophiles can certainly obsess over children, but not in any higher degree than any other person can obsess over someone they are attracted to. And of course, pedophiles can behave inappropriately with children, making unsolicited and unwanted sexual advances, but once again, there is no evidence that this would happen at any higher rate among pedophiles than people of other sexual orientations.

Assuming that a pedophile’s attraction to children is inherently perverse or evil is wrong and only contributes to further the stigmatization and vilification of people who, as a group and by definition, are not criminals or desire to harm anyone in any way. Acknowledging that there’s nothing inherently wrong about being attracted to children, given that it’s not something a person was ever given a choice about, in no way excuses anyone from behaving inappropriately with a child. Accepting that there isn’t anything inherent to pedophilia that makes anyone do anything they don’t want to do, or that impairs anyone’s ability to know right from wrong, also doesn’t excuse child sexual abuse.

Archwinger #sexist reddit.com

The Red Pill is Pro-Woman

There’s a post floating around one of the other subreddits telling the tale of a 17-year-old girl and her controlling, manipulative, abusive 23-year-old boyfriend who took great pains to isolate her from her friends and family, demand sex on every occasion they would meet (and threaten to dump her or kick her out of his house if she didn’t comply), and some other really shitty behaviors, like physical violence and driving off and leaving her in another state. Needless to say, this guy isn’t the “alpha male” a Red Pill guy strives to be. He’s a sniveling loser who had to resort to insecure, jealous, and controlling behavior because he didn’t have options with other women, wasn’t an attractive or valuable man, and was desperately afraid of losing this girl.

Somewhere in this story, the woman tosses in the fact that this shithead she was dating was obsessed with reading The Red Pill, which, of course, led to the usual Reddit bandwagon about The Red Pill being a haven for virgin loser sexist rapist abusers. Conveniently brushed off was the fact that this woman, for five years, stayed with her boyfriend, had sex on demand every time, came back to him after every breakup, and put up with all of his crap. Everyone simply concludes, obviously, that this woman had psychological issues, was young and naive and inexperienced, and that her boyfriend “took advantage” of her and “manipulated” her. Because of the way he “made her feel,” she was forced to stay with him, forced to have sex with him on demand, and prevented from leaving him.

This standard surfaces again and again, in various examples--I’m just pulling this one because it’s recent.

If a man were to approach a “normal” woman he was dating, with no deficiencies, no issues, no perceived power disparity or significant age difference or anything like that, and if that man were to say, “Have sex with me or we’re through,” the assumption for this baseline, normal case would be that the woman has two choices: have sex with him, or end the relationship. Also assumed in this normal, baseline case is that the woman has the capacity to make whatever decision she feels is best for her. Maybe she wants to have sex anyway and likes sex with him. Maybe she doesn’t, but gets something else out of the relationship she appreciates. Or maybe she’s offended by this kind of demand on principle and dumps him. But it’s her choice, right? She has agency and makes the best decision for herself.

The modern, anti-Red-Pill viewpoint is that no woman would ever put up with that garbage. The only correct choice is for that woman to dump the “abusive” shithead she’s dating (because any attempt to coerce a woman into sex is automatically “abuse.” You’re supposed to buy her jewelry every weekend, not say a word about sex, and hope she fucks you out of the goodness of her heart). If a woman does agree to sex when demanded like that, that’s obviously the wrong choice, and it is clear, simply due to the fact that the woman made this wrong choice, that she is psychologically impaired and not responsible for her bad decision. Her abuser somehow had power over her and she couldn’t see the truth.

That’s the standard. Essentially, if a woman makes a choice our detractors agree with, she’s responsible and made a great choice. If a woman makes a choice they disagree with, then she was clearly manipulated, controlled, abused, and not responsible for her bad decision – blame the man.

That’s the blue pill, feminist, anti-Red-Pill way. “The choice I would have made is the only correct choice. I’m so right that anybody who does differently is mentally incompetent by definition, and any man who causes a mentally incompetent woman to make a bad choice is an abuser who should have recognized that the woman he’s abusing is mentally incompetent simply by virtue of the fact that she did what he wanted.” That’s the standard. It’s on you, the actor, as a man, to recognize whether or not a woman is competent to make a decision on her own behalf. It’s up to you to know everything there is to know about her and the totality of her circumstances, and to assume that women are mentally incompetent and can’t make good choices unless their circumstances are absolutely ideal. And even then, maybe not.

Ironically, the Red Pill is much more pro-woman. We assume that women are reasonably intelligent people, capable of making reasonable decisions that are best suited to them. That’s where the whole hypergamy thing comes from – we assume women are smart enough to make the decisions that get the best possible outcome for themselves. Likewise, when a man gives a woman a choice: put out or get out, we assume a woman is intelligent enough and responsible enough and reasonable enough to decide which of those two choices is the best one for her. If she walks, great. If she stays, then maybe she wanted sex, or maybe she’s getting something else out of the relationship that she appreciates. But it was her choice based on what she felt was the best outcome for her.

The Red Pill gives women the benefit of the doubt. The Red Pill believes in a woman’s ability to make responsible decisions for herself. Our detractors assume women are idiots, and therefore, it should be a federal offence to ever attempt to coerce a woman into sex, because women that agree to be with such men are apparently, by definition, mentally impaired. You can’t put women on the spot like that! They can’t be expected to make the right decision in those circumstances!

That’s the world of “feelings.” If you pick up a woman at a bar, and she goes home with you that night, but tomorrow morning, she regrets the encounter, then you “manipulated” her into sex. It wasn’t her decision, it was your abuse.

But even if she doesn’t regret her decision, our detractors don’t take her feelings into account at all. They only consider their own. They never would have gone home with you. The only correct decision was to turn you down. Because she made a decision they disagree with, by definition, you abused and manipulated and controlled her.

Thankfully for women, we assume better of them. We’re far more pro-woman than most feminists.

kleyau #sexist kleyau.wordpress.com

Around 28 I started looking around, at all the women I used to find attractive and, they weren’t so attractive anymore. It wasn’t a conscious decision, my dick just said, “Don’t settle, they keep making new ones all the time.” And my dick does have the upper hand in debates when he’s the one that has to stand up and finish the statement. The wall is not kind to women.

Through much of history, this wasn’t an issue, because women just didn’t wait until such an advanced age to get married. And there are wife-goggles, where any women that ages gracefully will almost always be attractive to her husband. But I was single. Women will only be as attractive to you as when you started the relationship. And 28 wasn’t attractive to me anymore.

But wait, there’s more. You see, my dick is a long term planner, despite much evidence to the contrary. And one thing that really started to weigh on my decision making was how quickly a woman was going to age after I became involved with her. All around me I saw women hitting the wall, and even going for a women just a little younger was not going to get me interested enough to stick through that transition. And I started looking at 22 and 23 year old’s in a different light. They don’t even see it coming.

Heartiste #fundie google.no

As CH has asserted in the past, and as science has now proven, men are most attracted to women aged 15-25, and the raw physical attraction is strongest for girls between 15 and 20. Men are not most attracted to maximally fertile women (which would correspond to the mid to late 20s for most women); rather, men are most attracted to women with the GREATEST POTENTIAL for reproductive success over a lifetime, aka RV (residual value).

FACEandLMS #fundie love-shy.com

RANT:

You're over the hill by your late 20s, especially if you look your age. You're now THE oldest guy who still goes to nightclubs. You can't get girls in their LOOKS, FERTILITY and YOUTH PRIME anymore. And even if you can snag the odd one, you have nothing in common with them.

By 30, you should be settling down and ready to have kids. If you have a kid at 30, you'll be in your 40s when it's 10. You won't even be able to play sports with the kid soon after that.

All of your sexual adventures and sowing of your wild oats should be out of your system by now.

But as an INCEL, you're teens and 20s were crap. The PEAK of your YOUTH was spent getting rejected by girls, playing videogames and scraping pass grades in school, only just. So, you didn't even enjoy your youth. Now that you're older, more bitter, slightly balding on the temples, your skin has lost its youthful suppleness, and now you're developing nasolabial folds, what good is to come?

By 30, you've come to realize that your life is now split between working and commuting (70%) and being exhausted from working (30%). If the "good times" weren't even good, why do you think the 30s will be any good? Being an incel in your 20s looks like you were unlucky to a woman. Being an incel in your 30s is a sign that something is wrong.

No one - who doesn't share some of your DNA - loves you. All that's ahead is work, and bills. So what does an incel have to look forward to after 35? Balding? Prostate cancer? Dying alone and getting eaten by his cats?

I'm not 35, but I'm heading there soon enough. Time flies. Now, the only reason why I am "still trying" even though I'm LATE, is because I'm not brave enough to "check out" / visit god / come eat Sue. E. Side. So I'm only making an effort coz I'm trapped here.

How can you even fucking stand to get out of bed, being 38, and INCEL? Having to work just to keep a roof over your head, so you can work, so you can keep a roof over your head, so you can work....?

LOL@being 44 years old and incel. Biology's Chinese water torture.

There's a divorced programmer where I work. He's about 55yo, bald, 0/10. He's divorced, meaning he lucked out in the early feminism era, but after the divorce, feminism being in full swing, he remained INCEL. This guy programs at home as well as work. We can see that he checks in programming code in New Years Eve evening. While reasonably goodlooking men are boning chicks, he's writing routines so that the cash balance of one account can be concatenated with some other fucking value.

Even if you reach 36 and snag a 32 year old woman, she'll look awful. People look revolting as they age. I honestly have no idea how anyone can fuck a woman over the age of 40. With her wrinkles and vagina that looks like corned beef. Think of how many cocks passed through there in her 20s while you were playing videogames in yours. Now you get her when she looks haggered. Well done. If we're programmed to be attracted to signs of youth and fertility, how do men become aroused for 45 year old women who are about as fertile as a shoe? No wonder old men need viagra. Women start to look subhuman after 35. I'd rather thrust into a DVD drive. Compare pics of non Hollywood celeb women at 16 and age 48. The difference is night and day.

At least if you meet a girl in her 20s, you can gradually accustom to her face disintegrating. But meeting her at 43, after her cock caroussel marathon? Lucky me.

If only I knew how I'd feel now. That's the thing about aging. No matter how wise you become, it's always TOO LATE. You can't go back.

I just can't take aging.

/rant

Hovsep Avesyan #racist rawstory.com

Hovsep Avesyan, a 27-year-old white Armenian man, is facing multiple charges for allegedly brandishing a firearm while using ethnic slurs to verbally assault two Muslim women in what is thought to be a road rage incident.

The Delaware County Daily Times reported police responded to a Wawa parking lot in Upper Darby on Nov. 22 after getting a call from a 44-year-old Muslim woman and her 25-year-old daughter.

The women said that a man began yelling ethnic slurs and pulled up his jacket to reveal a firearm as soon as they pulled into the parking lot.

“You heard me,” the man allegedly said. “Go back to where you belong. Go back to Africa.”

“If you didn’t hear me, let me come closer,” the man said while walking quickly toward the women with the weapon visible, according to the police affidavit. “F*ck you,” he added.

The two victims told officers that they were so terrified that they removed their head veils because the suspect continued to make gestures at them after he walked into the store.

A license plate number provided by the women helped police locate the black 2014 Mercedes-Benz owned by Avesyan. He was arrested at his home on Wednesday.

Avesyan was charged with terroristic threats, a first-degree misdemeanor offense, and harassment and disorderly conduct. Bail was set at $250,000, which his family immediately paid. But the defendant was not released because he refused to turn over all of his firearms.

Investigators located a safe during a warrant search of Avesyan’s home. The defendant initially refused to reveal the combination of the safe, where authorities believed guns were being stored.

“Part of the bail was to turn over all firearms. We couldn’t say we got all of the firearms until we got into that safe,” police Superintendent Michael Chitwood explained over the weekend.

Avesyan eventually turned over the combination and investigator recovered a cache of 21 weapons, thousands of rounds of ammunition, smoke grenades and bulletproof vests.

“Ethnic intimidation is unacceptable,” Chitwood insisted. “It’s not going to happen in Upper Darby.”

David J. Stewart #sexist jesusisprecious.org

Truly, women today are frightening! I've looked at several hundred women's dating profiles. Some women's arms are thicker than my leg. What man wants to marry a fat obese cow? Obesity is epidemic across America! A lot of Philippine women are looking for a husband, but they just want a one-way ticket out of poverty! There are 20 year old Filipina girls who would marry a 60 year old man in a wheelchair just to gain U.S. citizenship. That's not what I'm looking for (She must be at least 25!) I'm just being funny, of course. I am leery of the whole idea of marrying someone just so they can become an American.

I was reading about the famous preacher named Gipsy Smith (1860-1947), who was 78 years old when a 26 year old woman married him (see an actual news clipping to the right from June 30, 1938 - Click picture for a larger photo). She was a going away present for him, I'll tell you Brother! I'm envious! Gipsy died in 1947.

Also, Pastor Keith Gomez in Elgin, Illinois. A young Christian woman in her 20's married him in his 60's. Lucky dog! I am sincerely happy for them both (but envious...lol). Wow! They are both avid hunters, having gone on multiple hunting safaris to Africa. I think that is cool. Love knows no boundaries. I just don't like that Pastor Gomez has an errant view on repentance, saying that it means “turning from sinful ways” to be saved. The gift of God is without obligation, except to receive it by simple childlike faith. Many preachers have a difficult time understanding repentance, especially since God expects every believer to live a holy life in Christ Jesus. Albeit, the honest Bible student will never be led astray if they always keep in mind that eternal life is the “free gift” of God (Romans 5:15).

If a woman divorces her husband, she is CAUSING him to commit adultery when he remarries. Staying single after a divorce is Scripturally recommended, but optional (1st Corinthians 7:27). It is cruel and selfish for any hypocrite to tell a lonely divorced person that they are out of luck, as one rotten Baptist missionary told me. I have not had any dealings with him since. Proverbs 14:7, “Go from the presence of a foolish man, when thou perceivest not in him the lips of knowledge.” I have been alone for 13 long years, and thought about suicide for awhile when things were rough several years ago, but God has seen me through. Just as “David encouraged himself in the LORD his God” (1st Samuel 30:6), so have I done.

Another big issue that I see (literally) is that women simply DON'T CARE how they dress in public! I'm frustrated every time I see independent fundamental Baptist women adorned in sexy tight spandex and other inappropriate attire. Shame on them! Even unsaved Mormon women have higher standards of modesty than most Baptists. Bob Jones University permits female students to wear halter tops. THAT IS REALLY SAD!!! We are too tuned into the world today. We live in a mousetrap society today in America, where careless ungodly women can wear next to nothing, but a man has to pretend like he is castrated. And sadly, professed Christian women aren't much better! Women ought not wear pants, it is the practice of a heathen culture! Personally, I am far more attracted in my soul to a Christian woman wearing culottes! I wish I could find such a woman to marry!

(Emphasis original)

pooltrait #sexist reddit.com

I'm not an incel in case you try to dismiss what I say by calling me that but these guys, as far as I can tell, object to the fact that women claim, repeatedly to the point of absurdity, that looks don't matter, height doesn't matter and they're only attracted to "deep" traits like intelligence and humor. Yet they then go around showing off about their boyfriend's physical traits. (They also object to men judging women based on their weight and height, one of which is a choice and if a guy showed off about how tiny and skinny his girlfriend is I doubt you'd have any trouble realizing what's wrong with showing off.)

The truth is that looks obviously matter but if you bring it up in a group of people they act like you're talking complete nonsense and if you bring it up online they act the same way. In fact, on an old account I wrote on some relationship sub (about what men and women find attractive) what, in my experience, I thought women were attracted to and almost got banned. The funny thing was that 2 of those women that berated me ended up pm-ing me and ended up sexting with me after I sent pics. They both said "I thought you were gonna be some fat ugly guy" and then the next message from one was "going to bed now... naked".

When you experience stuff like that AFTER a woman says she is attracted to looks and intelligence then it makes you realize how much bullshit society pedals. So in that context it becomes annoying to incels. They've been misled about what women find attractive. They were given false hope. It's some evil shit when you really think about it.

various TERFs #sexist#homophobia reddit.com

[Note: Comments in the thread “Actually, no, I won't date or waste my energy on 'Trans Men' or 'Non Binaries'.” by ToughTelephone]

(scienceisarealthing)

Where? Your sentiment is hardly new. It gets posted here daily. What you say is true, but I don’t see anyone here supporting TIFs unquestioningly. I see people pointing out that young GNC lesbian women are victims of transactivism and patriarchy, but that’s not the same thing.
Radical feminism is about tearing out the roots of oppression, and the root is patriarchy, not female victims of the system. Fuck Aunts and handmaidens, but they are the symptom, not the disease. This isn’t letting them off the hook, it’s just not playing the patriarchy’s game for it by never looking beyond the puppets to the dudes pulling the strings.

OP is right, unfortunately I don't have specific links but I have seen often on this sub where women here are berated for not being sympathetic to misogynistic TIF’s or considering them our “sisters”. It's not tearing down female victims of the system to not sympathize with women who actively harm other women.

The vast majority of women have some level of misogyny just from living under patriarchy. I wish all women could wake up from it and question those beliefs. I am sympathetic to confused women who are told to transition without being given other option for healing. The system is broken, thanks to the idiot activists and those in the medical industry wanting to profit. I’m sympathetic to people who suffer from all kinds of illness.

I’m not sympathetic to people who think they are better than other women because they are men now.

I have not seen someone being berated for not accepting a TIF. what kinds of threads does it come up?

I agree we should have sympathy for gnc women who are socially pressured into transitioning or felt they had no other option. I've seen threads (sorry don't have specific links) where women were told they were infighting, tearing apart the sisterhood, or being manipulated by the patriarchy, (and other things along those lines) for not supporting sexist, maladjusted TIF's.

To me, it seems like guilting women into performing emotional labor for misogynists with personality disorders, and I think it's a symptom of female socialization to have endless sympathy towards people who hate us and even want us dead. I think we can all agree we want feminism to benefit all women, even the horrible ones, but there's a limit to the amount of patience & attention women should give to manipulative, harmful people.

(georgiaokeefesgrotto)
Not from me. I've seen the Tifs and their idea of women as 'junk and udders'. I welcome them back into womanhood if they smarten up but many are cruder than truckers in a rest room on a long haul. Eff them.

(1984stardusta)
“The only reason everybody is talking about transgenders is because white men want to do it.”

Chappelle received lots of criticism for rhis joke, and more, for pointing that Mexicans or blacks wouldn't get the same treatment, genderism is a white problem.

I see no problem in people dressing up or behaving like the opposite sex, this is far from new, but I can't accept a bunch of privileged white men endorsing violence against women they will rebrand as TERFs and advocate for punching into silence. Normally women who identify as men won't do the same, so it is easier to talk with women.

But I can't start a conversation with anyone who will acuse me of feeling hate against a whole group, this is a coward accusation, without burden of proof, deeply ingrained in privilege of narrative and self entitlement from whom is so spoiled by their lack of real problems that they need to turn any dissenting voice into an imaginary enemy, they need to destroy competition, they need to be the leader of oppression Olympics even if it means to demean women.

So, being a person of color is a hard life, adding to the equation the false accusation that black women are killing white men when we don't say they are women whenever they feel like to be called so is unbearable.

Right? As a woman I’m tired of being silenced for saying anything about the trans community that isn’t “these people are the best people in the world”. This has a horrible effect on my mental health and view of self. Why are these bizarre new groups that everyone wants to talk about protected to the point that it’s hate speech to criticize or even question anything about them or what they say and do?

About transcommunity?

I can't say anything about myself.

When I say I am a biological woman I am offensive to who is not a woman and wants not only self identify as such, but also take leadership, precedence and dominance over my objective reality. On the same vein I should not use words as menstruation, breastfeeding and vagina but I need to accept meekly to be called a menstruator, and listen about chest feeding and fronthole.

I need to teach my kids to hide what they know about human biology, because I was taught it was replaced by wishful thinking.

I need to teach them to hide their knowledge, and shrink their passion about this subject to fit obscurantism.

And I need to pretend that black women and black men are subjected to more likelihood of being murdered then white men, even when they wear dresses.

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(SCREECHES_AT_HERSELF)
I couldn't agree more. In my experience, trans men & female nonbinaries are commonly emotionally abusive, narcissistic, and hold some really gross beliefs. Some FTMs even go as far as to become stereotypical "women have it easy, it's men who suffer!" MRAs.

People like that are not worthy of my energy. They might be biologically female but that doesn't mean I owe them anything.

As for dating... I'm not attracted to male secondary sex characteristics (even if they're artificial) so no, I'm not interested in trans men. Plus the whole misogyny and "your personality dictates your sex" things are huge dealbreakers anyway.

Begone with this stupid belief that us women should have unwavering compassion for everyone, especially people who view us as lesser. No, I won't support trans men. No, being nonbinary is no better. No, I'm not going to get on my knees and kiss the toes of that "gender critical TIM" that people all think is such a gift to feminism.

(greynose_algebra)
I transitioned several years before I discovered radical feminism and became gender critical. I don't know if you would rather not hear what I have to say, but for what it's worth, I think your points are valid and I get where you're coming from.

No one is obligated to include trans people in their dating pool. No one is obligated to support/lift up/perform emotional labor for anyone at all.

No one should have to waste their time or energy on emotional vampires, no matter what their sex or gender-feelz.

You're not a bad feminist.

(Enjolraic)
It would depend on their beliefs on gender. I'm Internet friends with a TIF and she believes that biological sex is real and she's against calling women TERFs or advocating for violence against us. Basically she's a gender critical trans person. But she's a Marxist, and ideologically sound Marxists are hard to come by these days. Most TIFs seem to believe in tumblr politics, hate radfems and expect gay men to date them just because they cut their hair. Even if I was physically attracted to one, I would want nothing to do with someone with a completely different world view to mine.

I'd never want anything to do with NBs. It's one thing to have dysphoria about your sexual characteristics or be transed because of homophobia, but the entire notion of 'non-binary' is based purely on sexist stereotypes.

(Lemortjoyeux)
Some of them are just predatory as TIMs, usually the GAI BOIZ type who are basically straight women who wanted more oppression points or were so obessed by yaoi they decided to live out this fantasy. They get angry when only other TIFs date them because gay men don't take that bullshit. Local horrible TIF in my city is also a YouTuber spewing lies and distracting from others arguments because she doesn't have any argument other than "not accepting my gender identity hurts my feelings". God I hate her and she's one of the main reasons I don't associate with the local gay community.

(thewilloftheuniverse)
The only Transman i personally know was a friend from high school, who is a second generation Desi. I was especially struck at the fact that the male name she took was "Todd," exchanging her Indian female name for a white male name.

At the time it only made me confused and sad for her. Now it makes me angry too.

(Burnbookburner)
I know a Todd TIF... do you think they realize any grown man named Todd is a huge red flag?

(CatLadyActually)
How so? Is it like Chad?

hirayama_ronin & SophisticatedBean #sexist reddit.com

Re: Benevolent Sexism Attractive To Women, Study Shows

(hirayama_ronin)
Just a comment to posters, why post studies without a comment of your own?

The purpose of the following observations is to situate what counts as benevolent sexism, according to the study's authors. The purpose of the study is to meet research into what is called benevolent sexism (the definition of which the authors may or may not agree with), with "parental investment theory."

However, the definition of "benevolent sexism" is eye-watering.

The following is quoted in the article, word for word from the study.

“Hostile sexism (HS) encompasses overtly prejudiced attitudes, whereas benevolent sexism (BS) involves subjectively positive attitudes (e.g., “women should be cherished and protected by men”), chivalrous behaviors, and attempts to achieve intimacy with women.”

Benevolent sexism includes attempts to achieve intimacy with women. This is either an Andrea Dworking-style, "all sex is rape" definition of sexism, that categorically places normal gendered behavior into a politically hostile ghetto (of rape or sexism), or it's a very poorly worded definition on the part of the study's authors.

There isn't a single example of benevolent sexism offered in the introduction that would situate the author's definition. It moves immediately to supposed consequences of BS (a convenient short-hand).

Here are the studies in support of this idea:

Dardenne, B., Dumont, M., & Bollier, T. (2007). Insidious dangers of benevolent sexism: Consequences for women’s performance. Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, 93, 764-779. doi:10.1037/0022-3514.93.5.764

Glick, P., & Fiske, S. T. (1996). The Ambivalent Sexism Inventory: Differentiating hostile and benevolent sexism. Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, 70, 491-512. doi:10.1037//0022-3514.70.3.491

I don't have access to this literature to see how their work grounds this definition.

Here are some examples found in the "Supplemental Materials" section at the end of the study:

Study 1a, BS condition

He feels that, no matter how accomplished he is, he is not truly complete as a person without the love of a woman. He thinks that a woman should be set on pedestal by her man. He is convinced that in general women are more pure than men and they tend to have a superior moral sensibility. Mark thinks that women should be cherished and protected by men. In case of a disaster or emergency situation, he thinks that women should be helped before men.

Study 1a, non-BS condition

He feels that he can be truly complete as a person without the love of a woman, especially if he is personally accomplished. He doesn't think that a woman should be set on pedestal by her man. He is convinced that neither sex is superior with respect to purity or moral sensibility. He thinks that women should not necessarily be cherished or protected by men. In case of a disaster or emergency situation, he thinks that a person's sex should not be a factor determining who is helped first.

Despite the “romantic” undertone, researchers noted, benevolent sexism still reinforces the notion that women are inferior.

In Study 2a, we find BS in how a man might help a woman. The study participants were offered two men, Robert and John, who were identical in every way, except in particular behaviors:

Robert/John and John/Robert are both colleagues of yours. You have got to know them both a bit because you have often worked in pairs with one or the other and you have attended a few meetings and short business trips with each of them. They both look about the same physically and they are both about as competent at their job as each other.

You have noticed that they behave slightly differently at times though. For example, on one occasion when you were attending a short business trip with Robert/John, you had to get from a train station to the hotel where your conference meeting was being held. The taxi had not turned up so you decided you had to walk in order to get there in time. It was December and it was very cold. [BS condition] After saying something about how cold it was, Robert/John took his coat off and gave it to you, even though he only had a thin suit jacket on underneath. On another occasion later that same month, you had been on another short business trip with John/Robert. It was still very cold and you were walking from the train station back to your office and it was about the same distance you had to walk in the cold last time. [non-BS condition] After saying something about how cold it was, John/Robert, who was wearing a thin suit jacket under his coat, did not offer to give you his coat.

Reading into this, I assume "attempts to achieve intimacy with women" means "attempts to charm women (into intimacy) by giving them preferential treatment."

Discussion

What feminism-driven research is attempting to do, which the authors of these studies is disrupting, is to position the preferential treatment of women as politically damaging treatment. This is actually a position I tend to agree with. I personally believe men's preferential treatment of women makes them weaker, lazy, less desperate to achieve success, thus less successful.

The problem is that feminism allows women to problematize the preferential treatment shown to them (turning a prima facie positive into a subtle negative), while benefiting from preferential treatment. It's grabbing resources, attention, and affirmation from men, while punishing men for offering those resources, attention, and affirmation, packaging it up as a form of political oppression (patriarchy), which men are solely responsible for.

Studies like this cut through the nonsense. It says: benevolent sexism may have negative consequences, but it's desired by women:

We propose an alternative explanation drawn from evolutionary and sociocultural theories on mate preferences: women find BS men attractive because BS attitudes and behaviors signal that a man is willing to invest.

If women express this unconscious bias toward BS men, even when they have conscious knowledge of the supposed negative effects of BS upon women politically, feminists can no longer claim BS is a product of male supremacy. It is a joint product of deep reproductive politics, for which women must take their share of the responsibility, as they take their share of the benefits of being placed on the pedestal.

As always,

feminism == equality + pedestal =/= equality.

(SophisticatedBean)

personally believe men's preferential treatment of women makes them weaker, lazy, less desperate to achieve success, thus less successful

Not doing so appears to cause PMS though.

feminism == equality + pedestal =/= equality

I guess we can shorten that to feminism ? equality.

Women will always be on the pedestal because men are hardwired to care for women and women are not hardwired for reciprocity. Instead, they are hardwired to exploit and to be unwilling to settle with a partner of lower rank. (The alternative would also be unstable anyway as a stronger male in her mating pool would be able to threaten her decision if she decided for a weaker male.)

So the patriarchy is exactly a means of counteracting this innate anti-(beta)-male bias; it is basically egalitarianism. It basically artificially makes men more attractive by rituals, affirmative action (e.g. boys-only domains/clubs), strict rank enforcement and economic dependence such that women more likely feel like actually having a valuable/high-status partner. This should also allow women to experience more orgasms in a monogamous society as they orgasm more the higher the economic status and confidence of their partner is. Not doing so should theoretically make monogamous bonds unstable and we are indeed seeing a growing divorce rates. Another prediction is that more men should be rendered unable to impress a woman by their relative socioeconomic rank; and fewer males should be motivated by classical courtship and incentives for achievements of founding a family, both of which should reduce overall reduce cultural drive, which we are likely seeing too (incels, Hikikomoris, opioid crisis; though all of those have an economic component).

Now, one might expect the negative utility listed above might have been canceled out by the utility of an improvement of women's lives, but it looks like feminism has not even made women happier as career-oriented women seem to often find themselves in positions in which they are not very satisfied because they cannot find a satisfying mate or because their career conflicts with motherhood. I also suspect feminism even increases BS, because men are being raised to be so agreeable, intimidated and soft that they fulfill any wishes. There is positive utility in shape of increased economic productivity, but it's questionable to which extent that has actually made us happier. Positive emotion is mostly associated with goal pursuit (cocaine, emphatemine), and as goals are becoming diffuse, gender-incompatible or unattainable, it obviously makes us less happy.

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That said, the study posted by OP surprised me since even self-described feminists preferred the explicitly sexist hypothetical male.

Some women are sneaky like that. I think it is a result of the lack of true female-male or female-female competition. We are seeing the same in the lack of true competition due to declining economic growth in the West: things start to become corrupt, improper and sneaky because the free market does not eliminate behavior and assumptions that are misaligned with reality. The raise of bullshit jobs. Women are basically chronically in this position because they are mostly always desired by men for their reproductive organs largely irrespective of their behavior and assumptions. Which does not mean that this expresses in all women to pathological degree or that men do not have their own gender-specific pathologies, but feminism, even though it probably had the intention of improving this has actually made it worse by making men more feminine/agreeable and by eliminating corrective feedback targeted at women.

CH #sexist heartiste.wordpress.com

Carlson must have been reading manosphere blogs recently and swallowed a few Crimson Pills on his journey to becoming the real-est Realtalker on the TelaViv, because in his latest show he drops a truth bomb so big it caused feminists to shriek themselves to death.

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No joke, I would vote for a Carlson/Coulter presidential ticket. There are few people who could trigger the shitlib gooniverse harder than does Trump, but Carlson might achieve it, and he does it with smarts and sureness of belief.

His main point — that cratering male wages in traditionally male occupations have reduced men’s marriage market value in the rural areas and small towns which voted heavily for Trump, contributing to a host of current social ills in those areas — is spot on, and something that we here at the Chateau have been banging on about for a long time.

When the State replaces men as the primary provider for women, then women, in effect, will marry the State (and fuck around with charming, undependable cads). Compassion creates more cads.

Carlson has broached the subject of female hypergamy — the third rail of sociosexual analysis — and the femcunts and soyboy lickspittles don’t like it.

In short, men date across and down, women date across and up. Men are primarily attracted to women’s looks, women are primarily attracted to men’s social and financial status (especially for long-term commitments). When men lose status, their women lose desire for them.

The beating heart of the Trump vote was a howl from men who have experienced an SMV decline — sexual and social market value declines brought upon them by anti-White pro-Diversity agitprop and nonWhite dispossession, the disappearance of male-oriented occupations that don’t require a facility with sitting still in an office chair all day, and the cheapening of their labor by foreign invaders scabs invited in at the behest of greedy corporate oligarchs.

And, as Carlson said, almost word-for-word recapping posts written at the Chateau, the female hypergamous instinct may be distasteful to contemplate, but it’s not going anywhere soon, because the sexes have innately competing reproductive goals. A smart, sane society understands this, and works to leverage the beneficial effects of that instinct rather than encourage its worst aspects.

Thankfully, Trump has managed to turn it around, a little. The manufacturing industry posted the biggest job gains in twenty years in 2018.

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On the downside, there are still too many gains in education, health services, and hospitality, which translates to dead weight gibs for women and migrants, which ultimately has a corrosive effect on the marriage market for White men.

I would have to see the percentage gains for each occupational group over the last few years to determine if this is a blip or a real and lasting course correction. It’s great that manufacturing jobs have increased, but if the increase in Shrike Jobs is larger then the gains in manufacturing, than the benefits from the latter will be swamped by the negative consequences of the former.

A successful realization of MAGA means the top two occupation groups are at the bottom, and at least six of the bottom eleven occupation groups storm the top of the jobs gain chart.

Azrael #fundie americanwomensuck.com

99.9% of the single women in this country are not even marriageable.

Take away the women beyond the marriageable age (over 30).

Take away the fat women.

Take away the ugly women.

Take away the psycho Zoloft / Prozac women.

Take away the raped women.

Take away the women with STDs / HIV.

Take away the women who can't cook.

Take away the women who already have kids.

And you've eliminated 99.9% of the single women in this country.

Theantifeminist #fundie google.no

I’m sure I could go out this morning and pull a 30 year old within a couple of hours and bring her back and fuck her. I have no desire to because :

1/ I have little or no sexual attraction to women that age.
2/ Having sex with women of that age, who have successfully created laws and social stigma preventing me from pursuing sex with teenage girls (in the hope that I and other men pursue sex with older females), is tantamount to allowing myself to be raped.

Pillarch #fundie reddit.com

Know that women are inferior. They are in some ways better than us: doing the dishes, cooking, and staying in the house. And that's where they belong. Do you know that women were much happier before feminism? That says a lot.

Know the only thing (other than being in the house) they are good for is their pussies. Remove a pussy from a woman and what remains? A stupid child and teenager. Who the fuck wants to be with a teenager? The only thing women are good for is being fucked. Yes yes, your beta self thinks this is wrong. I don't blame you - we live in the era of feminism and the era of political correctness. But no. That's the truth. The only good thing women have are their pussies. Would you talk to a woman if she didn't have a pussy? I doubt it.

Therefore, women should not withhold sex from their husbands. If they withhold sex, they reject their nature. A woman who withholds sex is not a woman. There is a reason nobody pays attention to fat and/or ugly women. They aren't attractive, so we don't have to have sex with them ---> They are not complete women (and if they don't even stay in their houses, then they are trash). There is a reason we are attracted to beautiful women, to young women.

It's simple, actually. We want to have sex with women - meaning, attractive and young females. Females who withhold sex, who are fat and ugly are not as feminine as hot women. It's like how short and ugly men must be very good at game to get laid - they have it worse than tall men. It's sad, but it's the truth.

Women who don't offer sex, who don't become mothers, who don't at least help the household, are not women.

Know that women can't be trusted. They are emotional creatures - they aren't familiar with logic. They will leave you if they find someone better. They will cheat. That's normal. It's their nature. It hurts knowing that, but at least now you know the truth.

Know that you are alone. No woman will ever truly care for you. No woman will listen to your problems. The only thing they can provide is their pussies - you can't expect anything else. Also know that you can't be friends with a woman.

Know that feminism is bullshit. Know that misandry is everywhere. (while I type this, my spell checker for google chrome says that misandry is wrong, it's not a word. You know we live in a feminist world when even Google doesn't acknowledge that misandry exists)

Know about the ways women manipulate men. Know about the wall, about the cock carousel.

Know that by marrying you are committing suicide.

Some MRAs #sexist reddit.com

(GonnaNutInYourButt)
I think we need to recognize that women's online communities are radicalizing women into holding harmful beliefs about men.

The number of communities for women online absolutely dwarfs the number of men's communities. There are women's communities for just about anything you can imagine. Some of them welcome men, usually under the condition that the men not contradict their comments. Others actually exclude men entirely.

But the more I see these communities, the more I feel that they have a radicalizing effect on women who visit them to discuss women's issues. There are three especially alarming trends on them.

(1) The nonstop posts about men doing bad things to or around them

Reddit is home to the largest women's community on the internet. Since its creation, there have been thousands--possibly tens of thousands--of posts made about men engaging in all sorts of bad behavior.

Right now, if you visit the front page of that community, you will see the following posts:

A boy sexually assaulting a girl.

A woman stepping in to stop a domestic violence incident with a man losing control of his temper.

A post about women regretting giving men their phone numbers.

A woman about her relationship troubles with men and their unreliability.

A woman getting catcalled/sexually harassed outside of an adult store.

A woman with persistent dreams about close male friends of hers raping her.

I'm legitimately just reading down the list of top posts there right now. These are the top six.

Of course, it is natural that someone may want to discuss something that happened to him/her, but we have to take a couple of things into account. The first and most important is that a forum being spammed with these posts in a flood of examples of the wrongdoings of a social group is going to affect people's outlook on that group. If you were to do the same thing about Black people, your subreddit would be indistinguishable from the long-banned coontown and other knockoff communities.

In addition, you have to take everything you read on the internet with grain of salt. I'm not saying that all women lie, but I am saying that of the posts made on any women's board, there are going to be an enormous number of lies. People engage in attention seeking behavior online constantly. It is safe to call the internet a never ending stream of liquid bullshit with a few true stories mixed in here and there. Even a story that is based on a real life happening is often doctored and details are added in order to make a more entertaining tale. Not only do you have constant stories about bad men doing bad things and nobody stepping in, but many of them are either completely fabricated or partially altered to look especially dastardly.

It's purely and simply an echo chamber that indoctrinates women. Feminists will, by the way, frequently point at stories posted to these communities as evidence of #YesAllWomen.

(2) The enabling

One of the most difficult issues to tackle in men's rights related issues is the fact that women have in-group biases multitudes stronger than men's. In simple language, women love women, and are far more tolerant of their bad behavior than they are of men's.

Reddit is not as bad as many other women's communities, but the amount of enabling that occurs in these communities--usually in regards to male/female relationships where the woman is clearly wrong but her compatriots assure her that she's right--can turn even the strongest of stomachs.

Men's bad behavior is typically exaggerated, highlighted, and has a spotlight pointed on it. Women's bad behavior is minimized and excused.

(3) The outright hostility towards male posters

Have you ever been ganged up on in a discussion about women's issues by women?

Obviously it's not something that will hurt the average guy's feelings, as usually the feminists shrieking at you are barely coherent and usually just calling you an incel, but this affects the way that women inside of these communities will view men outside of them as well. Here's an example of a comment string I've seen, slightly paraphrased to avoid Googling:

(+5000~ post) Manbabies mad about Gillette's ad

(-141 comment) Isn't calling men manbabies just encouraging what you call toxic masculinity? That's hypocrisy.

(+274 response) Shouldn't you be on an incel subreddit right now?

We're all perfectly aware that feminists feel entitled to engage in any coordinated harassment of any man, and it's not like the real misandrists will ever change their way of thinking. But the onlookers who actually don't hate men can gradually be indoctrinated to by this sort of attack.

Conclusion/TLDR

Women's online communities are unbelievably toxic, and they constantly reinforce negative stereotypes about men. Yet nobody bats an eye at them.

I think the only "issue" with MGTOW at the minute is this obsession with feminists. Far be it from me to tell you chaps what to do (It's Men going THEIR own way) but I think this emphasis is pointless.

Feminism/sisterhood is a cult. I'd no longer try and convert a creationist to Darwinism than I would to a feminist to equalism.

It's their church, it's their nice comfy blanket which tells them whatever they do it's not their fault. It's an excuse, a safety net, a shield. It's a way of ensuring no accountability for their actions, it's a way of demanding society shifts to their expectations whilst never having to pick up a spade and help dig the fucking foundations. They actively want to put themselves in the same bracket as children, and demand the same protections (whilst substituting their parents for government.) No one likes to admit when they make poor life choices, feminism gives them an out. Can you not see why it's attractive to them? As men we don't or at least shouldn't do that. Make a poor life choice? Fucking learn from it brother and come back stronger, don't whine to strangers on the internet.

They need those sorts of communities (online or in real life) because they're pack animals. They cannot do a single thing for themselves without demanding validation. They love sharing problems rather than dealing with them because it lavishes them with attention, which is a woman's number one goal in life.

If we are MGTOW, do just that. They want these radical beliefs noticed because guess what? Attention. Much like a teenager wearing clothing their parents feel is inappropriate, these women want any sort of attention good or bad. They want it from their peers first, and men as an added bonus. Let them have their communities. So fucking what? They achieve the square root of fuck all 95% of the time with their various demands. By all means read, digest and deconstruct, but only if it adds value to YOUR well being. Never engage with that bullshit. I couldn't give a badgers dick on my toddlers opinions on the socio-political state of the country right now, so why would I care on a woman's? If you have the burning desire to engage, don't. Not your circus, not your monkey's.

As far as I am concerned, the more of these communities the better. If it stops them fucking moaning about how hard their lives are and how shit their interpersonal relationships are in mixed public spheres where I might come across it by accident it will be totally worth it.

TLDR: SO WHAT? WHO GIVES A SHIT?

Never apologise. Never explain

I'm afraid your point is missing a whole lot.

Women, both qualified and unqualified, are being put into positions of power faster than ever before. This is partially because it is an easy and brainless way to make a company look good.

On top of that, because of the systemic discrimination against men in schools, the proportion of male to female graduates - those put into positions of authority in the future - is going to grow more and more skewed towards women.

This isn't something we can ignore. The women undergoing this indoctrination are going to be the teachers, managers, doctors, CEOs, and world leaders of the future. They're going to be the ones pushing men to the farthest outskirts of society and punishing boys for being born the wrong sex.

I know that if my son's teacher had participated in man hating communities online I wouldn't want her (or him) to be anywhere near my son. It would be like an incel teaching your daughter ballet.

It's not as simple as what you're making it out to be.

(user_miki)
Women abuse each other ,much more than men abuse women.

If you think correctly, feminist women especially the ugly ones abuse normal women(nicer ones) by brainwashing and scaring them into submission with this appalling ideology.

For me it sounds like...... If I cannot get good looking,provider guys, you cannot have them too.They will not allow it and will shame the other women into submission.For this reason you can see many many nice good looking girl from decent families ,made themselves ugly, with blue hair , tattooed with piercings ..to fit ,be accepted into sisterhood and not offend the other(leaders)with their look.

You are right, it is a cult.Satanic cult.

(Cristi_Tanase)
Oh boy, you don't know half of it. Is not only men, in other parts they even destroy each other.

We had here in Romania a facebook group that had about 75.000 members, most of them women.

This group was supposedly made from "moms", young moms to be exact. And here goes the news.

A gynecologist (male) had seen his wife facebook and read the comments of the "moms" in that group. What that guy seen there was so incredible toxic that he marched right into a news media group and started to vilify the entire group of women.

2 days later, the entire group was deleted

Apparently what happened was a circle-jerk of insults, abuses, open hate, from one mother to another, on various topics related to pregnancy, eating disorders, sleep patterns, kids, child care and so on.

They were simply abusing each other! And we are talking die hard abuses, not just name-calling and insults. They were even violent in real life...

Couple more people stepped in, mostly fathers, a preacher and so on, and couple of posts from this group of "moms" were posted on the media.

The group was deleted in an instant.

Remember, this is woman-on-woman abuse in absence of men! There was absolutely no men involved, most men did not even knew about this group existence, and plenty of women got a ton of abuse (some got sick, others depressed, a ton of them quit the group due to abuse and harassment).

Women-on-women, on-line, on top of that this was a "young mother's support group", you know to offer "help, comfort and advice".

KidknappedHerRaptor #sexist archive.ph

Re: I sympathize with incels

I’m 6’8” good looking and strong, I played college basketball and have had a variety of experiences dating attractive women, the problem is that women are extremely low quality in character and can have extreme flaws that we are expected to compromise for because they are attractive and automatically have sky high value without earning it, which entitles and enables women to not have to improve themselves because they can take advantage of whoever they want and so many men will put up with it.
I agree with incels. Feminism makes no sense, women hold the power. I’m considered a top quality male and even I am struggling with shit always having to compromise where I shouldn’t. I can’t find a girl that suits me without severely dating down in one aspect or another. Great sex, attractive but crazy. Nice, attractive but no sex drive and a lazy life sucking burden. Great personality and work ethic but not that attractive, maybe a once in a blue moon sex kind of attractiveness not a sustainable daily sex kind of attraction. I mean, I’m a high quality male and I can’t win either, and other high quality males are the same because women that would be on our level are unattainable, they’re valued so much more and almost all women are entitled to be above criticism or bettering themselves, you have to get lucky. A woman will likely never admit fault and you will have to compensate in some unsustainable way that will make you miserable.
Society is heavily sexist against men. Men are increasingly becoming depressed, committing suicide, turning gay, mentally ill, or transgender etc. abusing drugs.
Men account for the majority of the work force, a majority or suicides and war casualties, a majority of loneliness and depression.
Meanwhile standards for men are extreme. Generally over 6ft, make good money, attractive good shape, personality, and willing to put up with a woman’s bullshit and compensate for her shit because he has no choice in the dating market and hope he can live with it and it’s a bearable amount, but if the man has any flaw he’s gone.
Women have the advantage of higher peak sexual marketplace value, advantage in court sexual harassment, rape accusations, child custody, domestic abuse. Women get away with all these things but if a man is even accused of one of these his life is ruined.
As things get safer and manual labor and protection becomes less important, the value of our strength and protection is also devalued.
Men are not valued. We’re taken for granted and we’re the reason for almost everything productive.
I’m a top 20% male easily and cannot find a woman in my generation that can support or value me in the ways I need and I’m very flexible. I met a woman that was great, but the problem was she was much older. I’m 25 and she was 40. And didn’t want age gap to be a problem later on, but it also says a huge amount about how spoiled, brain dead, and cunty, sluts women of our generation are on general. There’s always exceptions of course and I respect women, but I’ve been abused by a lot of women and they get away with it. Domestic abuse, sexual harassment, emotion abuse, manipulation, etc. you name it. Most women are too high risk and scary. I’m about to call up this 40 year old if things don’t change soon... I hope she froze some eggs. Fuck my generation. You’re all cunts.

Chateau Heartiste #sexist heartiste.wordpress.com

Dating Market Value Test For Men

Here is a system for determining your dating market value if you are a man. Dating market value is a measurement of how you stack up against other men in the competition for attracting female interest. Be honest with yourself taking this survey. It will give you a fairly accurate assessment of the quality and number of women you are capable of attracting for a sexual relationship. Girls, you may take this quiz for your boyfriends to see if you are slumming it or about to be cheated on.

1. How old are you?

under 25 years old: 0 points
26-34 years old: +1 point
35-45 years old: 0 points
45+ years old: -1 point

2. How tall are you?

under 5’9?: -1 point
5’9? to 5’11”: 0 points
6' to 6’4?: +1 point
over 6’4?: 0 points

3. What is your BMI?

(Go here to calculate your BMI. I know BMI doesn’t account for very muscular physiques, but since most men are not Lee Haney, it is adequate for this survey’s purposes.)

under 20.0: -1 point
20.0 to 24.0: +1 point
24.1 to 27.0: 0 points
over 27.0: -1 point

4. How much do you bench press?

60% or less of your body weight: -1 point
61% to 80% of your body weight: 0 points
81% to 170% of your body weight: +1 point
over 170% of your body weight: 0 points

5. What does your hairline look like?

Full head of hair if you are over 35: +1 point
Full head of hair if you are under 35: 0 points
Receding hairline if you are over 35: 0 points
Receding hairline if you are under 35: -1 point
Bald (age irrelevant): -1 point
Bald but you are dark-skinned: 0 points

6. How much money do you make?

under $40K and you are out of college: -1 point
$40K to $70K out of college and under 40 years old: 0 points
over $70K out of college and under 40 years old: +1 point
under $40K and you are college age or younger: 0 points
$40K to $55K and over 40 years old: -1 point
$55K to $90K and over 40 years old: 0 points
over $90K and 40 to 55 years old: +1 point
over $200K (age irrelevant): +1 point

7. Do you have a car?

No (under 21yo): 0 points
No (over 21yo): -1 point
Yes (under 21yo): +1 point
Yes (over 21yo): 0 points
No, but you have a motorcycle (age irrelevant): +1 point

8. Are you good-looking?

(Self-assessment is somewhat unreliable, so if you are uncertain of your looks post your pic on hotornot and wait a week for your score. Or get opinions from unbiased and blunt friends. Hashing out the biometric details of what makes a male face attractive would require another lengthy post, so for now these two methods are acceptable substitutes.)

On a 1 – 10 scale:

0 – 4: -1 point
5 – 7: 0 points
8 – 10: +1 point

9. Have you ever played a leading role in a team sport?

No: 0 points
Yes: +1 point

10. What is your occupation?

(Since I won’t list every single high status job in the Department of Labor’s Occupational Handbook, you’ll have to make a judgment call on your own job. It’s a safe assumption that most people know a high status job when they see it.)

High status (doctor, lawyer, stockbroker, executive, professor, business owner, successful artist or musician or writer, professional athlete, etc.): +1 point
Neutral status (engineer, programmer, accountant, salesman, mid level manager, scientist, military officer, well-paid tradesman, etc.): 0 points
Low status (low paid blue collar, admin, construction, janitor, struggling web designer, help desk, etc.): -1 point

11. How many friends do you have?

0 to 3: -1 point
4 to 20: 0 points
over 20: +1 point

12. How many friends have you met through the internet that you have never seen in person?

0 to 2: 0 points
over 2: -1 point

13. When was the last time you went to a house party?

Within the past month: +1 point
Between one month and one year ago: 0 points
Over one year ago: -1 point

14. Have people besides your family called you funny?

None: -1 point
A few have: 0 points
Nearly everyone who knows me: +1 point

15. What is your IQ?

Under 85: -1 point
85 to 110: 0 points
110 to 130: +1 point
130 to 145: 0 points
over 145: -1 point

16. At a party, which happens first – you approach someone or someone approaches you?

I approach someone first almost every time: +1 point
I occasionally approach first: 0 points
Someone normally approaches me first: -1 point

17. Have you ever been in a serious fight where real punches were thrown and you felt like you wanted to kill your opponent(s)?

No: 0 points
Yes: +1 point
Yes, with a girl: -1 point

18. Have you ever been arrested?

No: 0 points
Yes: +1 point
Yes, for child pornography or public exposure: -1 point

****

It’s best to answer the following four questions based on your past experience with similar scenarios. Who we really are is not what we wish we were but what we have always been.

19. You are on a second date with a girl. You go to kiss her. She turns her cheek to you and says “Slow down, I’m not that kind of girl.” You reply:

(A) “Sorry.”
(B) “Yeah, well, no prob.”
(C) “This could be trouble ’cause I’m that kind of guy.” *smirk*

If you answered (A), subtract a point.
If (B), no points.
If (C), add a point.

20. You’re chatting up a pretty girl you just met in a bar. After a few minutes she asks you to buy her a drink. You reply:

(A) “Sure.”
(B) “I’m not an ATM.”
(C) “No, but you can buy me one.”

If you answered (A), subtract a point.
If (B), no points.
If (C), add a point.

21. You’ve just met a cute girl in a club and have been talking with her for five minutes when she abruptly changes the topic to a raunchy conversation about her multiorgasmic ability. You respond with:

(A) a huge grin and an eager “Damn! That is HOT!”
(B) a look of mild disdain.
(C) a raised eyebrow while saying “Hey, thanks for the medical report.”

If you answered (A), subtract a point.
If (B), no points.
If (C), add a point.

22. The pickup has been going well. Later in the night she leans in and begins making out with you passionately. You feel like a king and your jeans suddenly feel much tighter. Do you:

(A) immediately grope her boob in return.
(B) continue making out with her for as long as she wishes.
(C) kiss for a little bit then push her gently away and look distracted for a second.

If you answered (A), subtract a point.
If (B), no points.
If (C), add a point.

And finally, the critical thinking portion of the quiz. The following questions are based on the progression of a single pickup attempt.

23. You go to a bar. Twenty feet away are a pretty girl, a fat girl, and an average guy talking amongst themselves. The pretty girl briefly eye flirts with you. In reponse, you:

(A) eye flirt back and forth a few times before approaching 20 minutes later.
(B) immediately approach in a direct fashion maintaining strong eye contact with your target.
(C) immediately approach but from an indirect angle, looking around the room distractedly on the way over to your target as if you might see an even prettier girl somewhere else, and finally delivering your opener from over your shoulder.

(A): -1 point
(B): 0 points
(C): +1 point

24. Who do you address first?

(A) the pretty girl.
(B) the fat girl.
(C) everyone.

(A): -1 point
(B): 0 points
(C): +1 point

25. After getting the whole group engaged in conversation and having a good time, your target blurts out “Hey nice pink shirt! Are you gay?” You:

(A) say “No, I’m not gay!”
(B) ignore her.
(C) say “OK, who brought their little sister to the bar!”

(A): -1 point
(B): 0 points
(C): +1 point

26. In the middle of the conversation you have to pee. You say:

(A) “I have to go to the bathroom. I’ll be right back.”
(B) “Excuse me.”
(C) nothing. Just go.

(A): -1 point
(B): 0 points
(C): +1 point

27. You’ve managed to get her outside your front door. There is obvious sexual tension. You want to close this deal. You say:

(A) “So, um, ah, see you around.”
(B) “Why don’t you come inside?”
(C) “I’m thirsty. Are you thirsty? Let’s go inside and taste DC’s finest tap water. But you can only stay for a minute, I have to get up early.”

(A): -1 point
(B): 0 points
(C): +1 point

****

SCORES

There are 26 points to earn or lose based on the questions asked. The scoring breaks down as follows:

-26: Why are you still alive?
-25 to -20: You’re an omega. Celibacy has its charms.
-19 to -15: You actively repulse girls. Your kind will usher forth the sexbot revolution.
-14 to -10: You’re always getted foisted onto the warpigs.
-9 to 0: Lesser beta. You don’t immediately disgust girls; they just don’t notice you. With much painful effort you can redeem yourself.
1 to 9: Classic beta. You catch some girls’ eyes, usually the ones you don’t want. Try not to make fatty fucking a lifestyle.
10 to 14: A few attractive girls in the bar will be intrigued by your presence. But you need game to close the deal.
15 to 19: Congrats, you have crossed the alpha Rubicon. A lot of cute girls will be pleased when you hit on them. But you can still fuck up by being yourself.
20 to 25: You’re a natural. Many hot girls check you out and forgive your occasional pickup blunders. You always have a look of sexual satisfaction on your face.
26: Super Alpha. Booty sticks to you like bird shit on car roofs.

(Submitter's note: Compare and contrast Dating Market Value Test For Women)

Sam #fundie deepdotweb.com

Completely agree. The sickos are the people in denial, just so they can be politically correct in the current witch-hunt craze. Society always needs someone to hate, just to make it feel better about itself. It used to be gays, blacks, jews, witches etc. Now it’s pedos.

The reality is that being a pedo means being attracted to kids, not harming them. Does being attracted to adults make you a rapist? Rational, decent people of any sexuality are able to care about others and control themselves enough not to harm anyone.

The other reality is that most adults, men at least, are attracted to kids. If they claim that they’ve never secretly thought “phwoar!” when they’ve seen an attractive and well built 14 year old for example, then they’re liars. That makes them, all of us, pedos. The difference is what they do with those feelings.

The propaganda would have you believe that looking at pictures of naked, happy kids will cause them harm. Get real! I could try to explain this in much greater detail, but people tend to already have their agenda of bigotry built-in, so whatever facts are provided won’t make a jot of difference to their views.

Just one thing you should consider. If you prevent pedos from looking at images online, where does that leave them? What would you do if you couldn’t get sexual relief through pornography? Go out and find a real person to have sex with?