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Got Questions #fundie gotquestions.org

Question: "What was the sin of Sodom and Gomorrah?"

Answer: The biblical account of Sodom and Gomorrah is recorded in Genesis chapters 18-19. Genesis chapter 18 records the Lord and two angels coming to speak with Abraham. The Lord informed Abraham that "the outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is so great and their sin so grievous" (Genesis 18:20). Verses 22-33 record Abraham pleading with the Lord to have mercy on Sodom and Gomorrah because Abraham's nephew, Lot, and his family lived in Sodom.

Genesis chapter 19 records the two angels, disguised as human men, visiting Sodom and Gomorrah. Lot met the angels in the city square and urged them to stay at his house. The angels agreed. The Bible then informs us, "Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of the city of Sodom — both young and old — surrounded the house. They called to Lot, 'Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them'" (Genesis 19:4–5). The angels then proceed to blind all the men of Sodom and Gomorrah and urge Lot and his family to flee from the cities to escape the wrath that God was about to deliver. Lot and his family flee the city, and then "the LORD rained down burning sulfur on Sodom and Gomorrah — from the LORD out of the heavens. Thus he overthrew those cities and the entire plain, including all those living in the cities..." (Genesis 19:24).

In light of the passage, the most common response to the question "What was the sin of Sodom and Gomorrah?" is that it was homosexuality. That is how the term "sodomy" came to be used to refer to anal sex between two men, whether consensual or forced. Clearly, homosexuality was part of why God destroyed the two cities. The men of Sodom and Gomorrah wanted to perform homosexual gang rape on the two angels (who were disguised as men). At the same time, it is not biblical to say that homosexuality was the exclusive reason why God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah. The cities of Sodom and Gomorrah were definitely not exclusive in terms of the sins in which they indulged.

Ezekiel 16:49-50 declares, "Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy. They were haughty and did detestable things before me..." The Hebrew word translated "detestable" refers to something that is morally disgusting and is the exact same word used in Leviticus 18:22 that refers to homosexuality as an "abomination." Similarly, Jude 7 declares, "...Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion." So, again, while homosexuality was not the only sin in which the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah indulged, it does appear to be the primary reason for the destruction of the cities.

Those who attempt to explain away the biblical condemnations of homosexuality claim that the sin of Sodom and Gomorrah was inhospitality. The men of Sodom and Gomorrah were certainly being inhospitable. There is probably nothing more inhospitable than homosexual gang rape. But to say God completely destroyed two cities and all their inhabitants for being inhospitable clearly misses the point. While Sodom and Gomorrah were guilty of many other horrendous sins, homosexuality was the reason God poured fiery sulfur on the cities, completely destroying them and all of their inhabitants. To this day, the area where Sodom and Gomorrah were located remains a desolate wasteland. Sodom and Gomorrah serve as a powerful example of how God feels about sin in general, and homosexuality specifically.

Joe Dallas #fundie jesuspeopleinfo.org

Answering a Homosexual Argument

The Destruction of Sodom

Genesis 19:4-9

By Joe Dallas

Before they [the angels visiting Lot to judge the wicked-ness of Sodom and determine whether or not to spare it] had gone to bed, all the men from every part of the city of Sodom—both young and old—surrounded the house. They called to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them [lit., ‘so we may know them’]." Lot went outside to meet them…and said, " No, my friends. Don’t do this wicked thing. Look, I have two daughters who have never slept with a man. Let me bring them out to you, and you can do what you like with them. But don’t do anything to these men…." …And they said, "We’ll treat you worse than them."

Traditional Position:

The men of Sodom were attempting homosexual contact with Lot’s visitors. Sodom was subsequently destroyed for its great wickedness, homosexuality playing a major role in its destruction.

Pro-Gay Argument #1:

Sodom was destroyed because of the inhospitality of its citizens, not because of homosexuality.

Professor John Boswell, in Christianity, Social Tolerance and Homosexuality (University of Chicago Press 1980), supports this view, basing it on two assumptions: first, that Lot was violating Sodom’s custom by entertaining guests without the permission of the city’s elders, thus prompting the demand to bring the men out "so we may know them"; second, that the word "to know" did not necessarily have a sexual connotation.

The Hebrew word yada appears 943 times in the Old Testament; it carries a sexual meaning perhaps 10 of those 943 times. The argument, then is that the men of Sodom had no sexual intentions towards Lot’s visitors.

Response:

The argument makes no sense in light of Lot’s responses. His first response, "Don’t do this wicked thing," could hardly apply to a simple request to "get to know" his guests. His second response is especially telling: he answered their demands by offering his two virgin daughters-another senseless gesture if the men wanted only a social knowledge of his guests. And why, if these men had innocent intentions, was the city destroyed for inhospitality? Whose rudeness was being judged-Lots’, or Sodom’s citizens?

The theory raises more questions than it answers. While Boswell and Bailey are correct in pointing out the seriousness of inhospitality in Biblical times, inhospitality alone cannot account for the severity of Lot’s response to the men, or for the judgment that soon followed.

Pro-Gay Argument #2:

Sodom was destroyed for attempted rape, not homosexuality.

This argument is more common; it is proposed by lesbian author Virginia Mollenkott and others, and is far more plausible than the "inhospitality" theory.

"Violence-forcing sexual activity upon another-is the real point of this story," Mollenkott explains. Accord-ingly, homosexuality had nothing to do with Sodom’s destruction; had the attempted rape been heterosexual in nature, judgment would have fallen just the same. Violence, not homosexuality, was being punished when Sodom fell.

Response:

The argument is partially true; the men of Sodom certainly were proposing rape. But for such an event to include "all the men from every part of the city of Sodom-both young and old," homosexuality must have been commonly practiced. Mollenkott makes a persua-sive case for the event being much like a prison rape, or the kind of assaults conquering armies would commit against vanquished enemies, but her argument is weaken-ed by Professor Thomas Schmidt’s cited evidence in early literature connecting Sodom with more general homosexual practices:

The second-century BC Testament of the Twelve Patriarchs labels the Sodomites ‘sexually promiscuous’ (Testimony of Benjamin 9:1) and refers to ‘Sodom, which departed from the order of nature’ (Testament of Nephtali 3:4). From the same time period, Jubilees specifies that the Sodomites were ‘polluting themselves and fornicating in their flesh’ (16:5, compare 20:5-6). Both Philo and Josephus plainly name same-sex relations as the characteristic view of Sodom.

Pro-Gay Argument #3:

The real sins of Sodom, according to Ezekiel 16:49, were that it was "arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy." These have nothing to do with homosexuality.

Response:

Again, the argument is partially true. When Sodom was destroyed, homosexuality was only a part—or symptom—of its wickedness. Romans Chapter One gives a similar illustration, describing the generally corrupt condition of humanity, while citing homosexuality as a symptom of that corruption. But Ezekiel also says of the Sodomites: "They were haughty and did detestable things before me" (16:50). The sexual nature of these "detestable" things is suggested in 2 Peter 2:6-7:

If he (God) condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah by burning them to ashes, and made them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly; and if he rescued Lot, a righteous man, who was distressed by the filthy lives of lawless men…

And again in Jude 7:

In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion. They serve as an example of those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire.

Dr. Bruce Metzger of Princeton Theological Seminary mentions other references to Sodom’s sexual immorality in 3 Maccabees 2:5: "the people of Sodom who acted arrogantly, who were notorious for their vices." And again in Jubilees 16:6: "the uncleanness of the Sodomites."

The pro-gay interpretation of Sodom’s destruction has some merit: homosexual rape was attempted, and the Sodomites were certainly guilty of sins other than homosexuality. But in light of the number of men willing to join in the rape, and the many other references, both Biblical and extra-Biblical, to Sodom’s sexual sins, it is likely homosexuality was widely practiced among the Sodomites. It is also likely that the sin for which they are named was one of many reasons judgment finally fell on them.

Christian Answers #fundie christiananswers.net

The issue of homosexual behavior has had a lot of publicity of late. Homosexuals say that the slaves have been freed and women have been liberated, so gay rights are long overdue. Society does seem to be moving in that direction. Many homosexuals are “coming out” and openly declaring their homosexuality. In many parts of the western world, homosexual couples receive the same recognition as heterosexual couples with regard to social security benefits. Some church leaders are giving their blessing to homosexual relationships, homosexual church members and even homosexual ministers.

Many homosexuals’ claim that…

They are made that way.

Homosexuality is of no harm to the participants or to anyone else.

If it feels right to those involved, it is nobody else’s business.

Homosexual relationships and heterosexual relationships are equally valid. (Some even claim that the Bible condones homosexual relationships.)

Made that way?

Since other groups who have been discriminated against (such as women, blacks and the disabled) have been given equal opportunity, homosexuals claim that they, too, should be liberated. However, as one Christian expert has said…

“Gender, race and impairment all relate to what a person is, whereas homosexuality relates to what a person does.”1

In contrast, homosexuals claim that scientific studies have shown that there is a biological basis for homosexuality.

Three main studies are cited by “gay rights” activists in support of their argument2Hamer’s X-chromosome research,3 LeVay’s study of the hypothalamus,4 and Bailey and Pillard’s study of identical twins who were homosexuals.5

In all three cases, the researchers had a vested interest in obtaining a certain outcome because they were homosexuals themselves. More importantly, their studies did not stand up to scientific scrutiny by other researchers. Also, “the media typically do not explain the methodological flaws in these studies, and they typically oversimplify the results.”6 There is no reliable evidence to date that homosexual behavior is determined by a person’s genes.

To the extent that biological or social factors may contribute to a person’s bent toward homosexual behavior, this does not excuse it. Some people have a strong bent towards stealing or abuse of alcohol, but they still choose to engage or not engage in this behavior and the law rightly holds them accountable.

The final report of the Baptist Union of Western Australia (BUWA) Task Force on Human Sexuality states “that a person becomes a homosexual ultimately by choosing to be involved in same-sex activity… This is in contrast to innate characteristics such as gender and ethnicity.”7 The report affirms that “the Bible is clear that sin involves choice, and it unequivocally condemns homosexual behavior as sin.”7

The foundational teaching on marriage and sexual issues is found in Genesis chapters 1 and 2. When Jesus was questioned about marriage, He referred to these 2 chapters (Matthew 19:1-12; Mark 10:1-12). Genesis teaches us that “male and female He created them” (Genesis 1:27). We were created to a plan, male and female complementing each other. That is, God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve, nor Madam and Eve.

Genesis also teaches that God instituted and designed marriage between a man and a woman (Genesis 2:18-25). There are a number of reasons why He did so.

The complementary structure of the male and female anatomy is obviously designed for the normal husband-wife relationships. Clearly, design in human biology supports heterosexuality and contradicts homosexuality.

The combination of male and female enables man (and the animals) to produce and nurture offspring as commanded in Genesis 1:28 “Be fruitful and multiply; fill the earth.” This command is repeated to Noah after the Flood (Genesis 8:15-17).

But procreation is not the only reason God made humans as sexual beings. The BUWA report affirms “that sexual intimacy between husband and wife is good, and is intended by God for bonding, pleasure and procreation.”7

Thirdly, God gave man and woman complementary roles in order to strengthen the family unit. Woman was to be the helper that man needed (Genesis 2:18). However, the woman’s role as the helpmate is certainly not an inferior one. The enterprising, God-fearing woman in Proverbs 31:10-31 is an inspiring role model.

No harm?

Andrew Lansdown points out that “homosexual activity is notoriously disease-prone. In addition to diseases associated with heterosexual promiscuity, homosexual actions facilitate the transmission of anal herpes, hepatitis B, intestinal parasites, Kaposi’s Sarcoma and AIDS.”1 Research on the life expectancy of a group of homosexual men in Canada in the early 1990s indicated that they could expect 8-21 years less lifespan than other men.8

Effect on others

Secular psychologists assure us that “children raised in lesbian and gay households are similar to children raised in heterosexual households on characteristics such as intelligence, development, moral judgments, self-concepts, social competence and gender identity.”6 The humanists have, however, forgotten one important ingredient.

“Train up a child in the way he should go, and when he is old he will not depart from it” (Proverbs 22:6).

You cannot faithfully teach God’s Word to your children while living a lifestyle specifically condemned by God’s Word. All Christians are sinners forgiven by God’s grace, but living in a homosexual relationship constitutes habitual, unrepented sin.

Nobody else’s business?

Gay activists claim that homosexual activity is nobody’s business other than those involved in the relationship. However, this is not true. God, our Designer and Creator, has authority over all aspects of our lives. He makes the rules, and He quite specifically forbids homosexual behavior.

“You shall not lie with a male as with a woman. It is an abomination” (Leviticus 18:22; see also Leviticus 20:13).

Disobedience of such a clear command indicates rejection of God’s authority.

Some people argue that the Old Testament law (including Leviticus 18 and 20) was superseded with the coming of Christ. However, we should at least consider as binding those aspects of the law that are renewed in the New Testament. The teaching of Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13 was certainly reaffirmed in the New Testament.

Equally valid?

Some people claim that homosexual behavior was only condemned in the Bible because it was associated with idolatry (e.g., 1 Kings 14:24). However, it is clearly condemned apart from idolatry as well (e.g,. Leviticus 18:22). It is described in Scripture as an unnatural, immoral perversion.

“For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another…” (Romans 1:26-27).

The Greek word arsenokoitai used in 1 Timothy 1:10 literally means “men who sleep with men.” It is the same Greek word used for “homosexual offender” in 1 Corinthians 6:9, variously translated as “abusers of themselves with mankind” (KJV), homosexuals (NASB) or homosexual offender (NIV).

Some people claim that the sin involved in Sodom was rejecting hospitality customs or selfishness rather than homosexual behavior. Certainly, the outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah was great and their reported sin was grievous to God (Genesis 18:20). God sent angels to Sodom and…

“Now before they lay down, the men of the city, the men of Sodom, both old and young, all the people from every quarter, surrounded the house. And they called to Lot and said to him, Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us that we may have sex with them” (Genesis 19:4-5).

“While it is true that the Hebrew word yadha does not necessarily mean ‘to have sex with,’ nonetheless in the context of Sodom and Gommorah, it clearly had this meaning. …It means ‘to know sexually’ in this very chapter when Lot refers to his two daughters not having “known” a man (19:8).”9 You would not offer virgins to appease a mob if their sin was lack of hospitality, but only if their desire was sexual.

Although Ezekiel 16:49 condemns Sodom for its selfishness with regard to poverty, etc., this does not contradict its condemnation for homosexual practices. “The very next verse of Ezekiel (verse 50) calls their sin an ‘abomination.’ This is the same Hebrew word used to describe homosexual sins in Leviticus 18:22.”10

It is also used in Scripture to describe such things like the practice of offering children to Moloch, but never such things as mere selfishness or lack of hospitality. Even in legal parlance, the word used to refer to one aspect of homosexual practice is ‘sodomy.’

Another argument is that Jonathon and David were homosexuals as “Jonathan loved David” (1 Sam. 18:3), that Jonathan stripped in David’s presence (18:4), [and] that they kissed each other (20:41).11

However, “David’s love for Jonathan was not sexual (erotic) but a friendship (philic) love. And Jonathan did not strip himself of all his clothes, but only of his armor and royal robe (1 Sam. 18:4).”12 Also, a kiss was a normal greeting in that day, such as when Judas kissed Jesus. In several cultures today, men normally greet each other with a kiss, too. Further, David’s love for his wives, especially Bathsheba (2 Samuel 11), clearly reveals his heterosexual orientation.

Isaiah 56:3 states that eunuchs will not be excluded from God’s presence (“my temple”), but practicing homosexuals are not eunuchs. Eunuchs have no sexual relations at all.

Other Scriptural arguments for homosexuality can similarly be easily refuted. It is clear that heterosexual marriage is the only form of marriage sanctioned in the Bible and that homosexual practice is always condemned.

[See: What does the Bible say about same sex marriages? Answer]

Punishment

The Bible not only describes homosexual behavior as detestable, but it also calls for the punishment of those involved (Leviticus 20:13). Their unrepentant attitude caused God to destroy Sodom and Gomorrah (Genesis 19:24-25).

Just as homosexual conduct has been punished in the past, so it will also be punished by God in the future.

“…Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God” (1 Corinthians 6:9-10).

Hope

However, there is hope for the homosexual. God forgives and cleanses a person who repents and turns from their sin, including the sin of homosexual behavior (1 Corinthians 6:11). As well as forgiveness, God’s grace brings with it the power to live a life that is pleasing to God (Romans 6:6-7). If repentance and reform are genuine, prior homosexual actions should not be a bar to church membership or ministry, as all Christians are reformed sinners.

“Liberal” churches espouse tolerance of homosexual behavior in the name of “love.” They plug for the acceptance of homosexual conduct as normal, “because they can’t help it.” They are not only wrong about the latter, but they are actually not being at all loving towards homosexuals, because, contrary to the Bible, they reduce the homosexual person to the level of an animal, driven by instinct. In removing moral responsibility from the person, they dehumanize them, whereas the Bible says we are made in the image of God (Genesis 1:26-27), with the power of moral choice.

Furthermore, the gospel proclaims liberation from the bondage of sin, including homosexual sin, whereas the “liberals” tell the homosexual that they cannot help it, and they can’t help them either, so they will accept them as they are! However, many a person has been gloriously rescued from the bondage of homosexual sin (and other sin) by the power of the Holy Spirit, but only Bible-believing Christians can offer such hope.

Conclusion

As with all moral issues, our beliefs about our origin determine our attitude. If we believe that we arose from slime by a combination of random chance events and the struggle for survival, it is understandable to say that there is no higher authority, and we can make our own rules. However, if there is a loving God who planned us and gave commands for us to follow, then we must do so. God has set forth His standards in the Bible, beginning with the foundational teaching in the book of Genesis.

Jim Kirkwood #fundie premier.org.uk

DavidS: Ezekiel 16:49-50 - "Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy. They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen"
Then in Ezekiel 18:11-13, Ezekiel (talking about Israel) says:
"“He eats at the mountain shrines.
He defiles his neighbor’s wife.
He oppresses the poor and needy.
He commits robbery.
He does not return what he took in pledge.
He looks to the idols.
He does detestable things.
He lends at interest and takes a profit.
Will such a man live? He will not! Because he has done all these detestable things, he is to be put to death; his blood will be on his own head."
Ezekiel calls all these things detestable, including oppressing the poor and needy, he doesn't mention homosexuality at all.

Jim Kirkwood: But the letter of Jude does! Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.!!!!!!!

Martin #fundie premier.org.uk

(=A rant against a Progresisve Christian Website=)

That you are not a Christian is illustrated by this post.

From PATHetic thEOS

1. "We embrace the many variations of the view expressed by many great Christian thinkers that “We take the Bible too seriously, to read it all literally.”

Really, this sounds like an excuse to make up your own opinion as to what is good and bad rather than accept what the Bible says.

2. "We don’t think that God wrote the Bible. We think it was written by fallible human beings who were inspired by (not dictated to by) the Holy Spirit. Hence, we don’t consider it to be infallible or inerrant."

Then why bother with the Bible at all? After all, you are so much more clever than those who wrote it and know so much more. You even know more than Jesus who clearly did regard the Bible as infallible.

3. "While we’re aware of the many inconsistencies and contradictions in the Bible; and while we’re abhorred by, and reject, the various instances of horrible theology that appear here and there within the texts (e.g., passages that posit God as wrathful, vindictive, and condoning of slavery, and even “ordering” rape and genocide, etc.), they don’t cause us to reject the Bible, rather, they endear us to the Bible. Not because we agree with those passages, but because we recognize that they are fully human – they’re authentic, they’re down to earth, and they flat out convey the desperate and very real frustration, lament, and anger that are part of the human condition. The fact that such passages were allowed to be written into our holy scriptures are evidence of a mature people who realize that it’s best not to hide our dirty laundry or to deny our very real human feelings and passions. If the Bible were all about PR propaganda, they would have edited out those passages. We view those passages as exceptions to the over-arching message of the Bible of promoting unconditional love and the full inclusion and acceptance of all of God’s children. Indeed, while we wish those passages weren’t there, they actually help us to grant authority to the Bible in that we can see that was written by fellow humans who are struggling with real life and death matters of injustice, oppression. And since they make space for our need to vent and rage – we honor the Bible all the more for it honors our shadow sides – and that honoring is what allows for the possibility of our shadows being transformed and integrated in healthy ways."

So in other words, as above, you take out the bits you like and reject those you don't like. You seem to think that all mankind is God's children, reading the Bible should have taught you that this is not so. Would you consider Hitler, Stalin or Pol Pot God's children? And BTW there are no " inconsistencies and contradictions in the Bible".

4. "We read the Bible prayerfully. We agree with our conservative brothers and sisters that the Holy Spirit helps us to interpret what we need to read as we read."

To read the Bible in this way you first have to be a Christian, you have to be willing to listen to God. Your previous points have demonstrated that this is not the case so you cannot claim to receive the guidance of the Holy Spirit.

5. "We seek to apply full attention to Scripture, Tradition, Reason, and Experience (and that includes the insights of contemporary science)."

Remember, much of contemporary science is just the opinions of fallible men. It is not without reason that it is spoken of as the best current understanding, tomorrow it might be different. And when it becomes different, you will have to change your theology. What you really mean is that you place your opinion as the authority and accept anything in Scripture that matches up to that.

6. "We realize that there is no “objective, one, right way” to interpret a passage – and we recognize that there is no reading of any text – including the Bible – that doesn’t involve interpretation. We also realize that each person interprets the text via their own personal experiences, education, upbringing, socio-political context, and more."

In other words you can make the Bible mean whatever you want.

...

7. "We do our best to read the biblical texts in their original languages (Hebrew and koine Greek) – and consult scholars and others to assist us. We also tend to look at several English translations – and by no means limiting ourselves to the King James version – which, while the best English version in conveying the beautiful poetry of the original languages, is based upon inferior manuscripts."

That's pretty pointless when you are clearly manipulating the text to mean what you want it to mean. Indeed, why bother with the Bible at all?

8. "We consider the best available Biblical scholarship from those who study it academically and professionally (and they’re generally fellow Christians and/or Jews)."

And by best, it seems, you mean those who agree with you.

9. "We seek to read passages in context – within their chapter, within their book, within their genre, and within the over-arching thrust of the Bible."

Doesn't this conflict with your need to be the master, or is it that you manipulate the context to fit what you want it to mean.

10. "We seek to read the passages with consideration of the historical socio-political contexts, frequently of oppression, which they were written in."

This, of course, manipulates 9, above. What you mean is that you use all sorts of unproven ideas to modify what the text says so it suits you.

11. "We employ a hermeneutic of compassion, love, and justice. (Which Jesus utilized). A hermeneutic is “an interpretive lens” and intentional filter. The hermeneutic of love seeks to see the forest for the trees and that allows the spirit of the law to trump the letter of the law (which Jesus modeled[sic])."

And what hermeneutic was Jesus using when He said:

And then will I declare to them, I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.
(Matthew 7:23 [ESV])

And this is just a way of modifying the meaning to fit your prejudices.

12. "We also tend to employ a “canon within the canon” lens whereby we give greater weight and priority to certain texts over others. A canon is an officially established collection of books that are revered by a given community – for Protestants, that refers to the 66 books of the Bible. In my case, I give greatest weight to Mark, Luke, Matthew, John (in that order), certain letters that Paul actually wrote (as opposed to the Pastoral Epistles which he didn’t), the Prophets, and the Psalms. I interpret the other books of the Bible according to how they jibe and are in sync with these primary texts. Many progressive Christians refer to themselves as “Matthew 25 Christians” (referring to the test for who Jesus says is in or isn’t in the Kingdom by what they do or don’t do), “Sermon on the Mount Christians” (stressing their seeking to prioritize those teachings as central); or as “Red Letter Christians” (indicating that they give greatest weight to the words attributed to Jesus)."

So in other words, you place the books that say things you don't like low down on the list. What a dishonest way of reading the Bible.

13. "We also seek to allow “scripture to interpret scripture.” Here’s an example regarding how to interpret “the sin of Sodom”:
The Bible interprets itself regarding the story of Sodom in Ezekiel 16:49 “‘Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy. 50 They were haughty and did detestable things before me. And Jesus himself supports the view that the sin of Sodom was their lack of hospitality and hesed (loving-kindness) in Matthew 10:9 “Do not get any gold or silver or copper to take with you in your belts— no bag for the journey or extra shirt or sandals or a staff, for the worker is worth his keep. Whatever town or village you enter, search there for some worthy person and stay at their house until you leave. As you enter the home, give it your greeting. If the home is deserving, let your peace rest on it; if it is not, let your peace return to you. If anyone will not welcome you or listen to your words, leave that home or town and shake the dust off your feet. Truly I tell you, it will be more bearable for Sodom and Gomorrah on the day of judgment than for that town.”

And the result of Sodom's sin was that they were sliding down that slippery slope we see in Romans 1:18-32.

14. "We follow Jesus’ example in being willing to reject certain passages & theologies in the Bible and to affirm other ones. (He did it a lot)"

Really, would you like to give us an example?

15. "We do as much of the above as we can with fellow Christians in community with others. We avoid doing it solely as a solo endeavor. (We also tend to be open to doing this in community with Jews and Muslims, as fellow “people of the Book” whose insights are often invaluable)"

So you don't seek the opinions of those who love God, but rather look for people who agree with you, even unbelievers.

16. "We repeat these steps frequently as new information and scholarship comes in. Knowing that we will always find something that we hadn’t noticed before each time that we do this."

And always ensuring that we look for those in agreement with us.

David J. Stewart #fundie jesus-is-savior.com

Today's Apostate Churches are Filled with Modernists!

Photo to Right: A homosexual painting by artist, Becki Jayne

The artwork to the right is also found on JesusInLove.org (Ms. Kittredge website). The painting was designed to identify a rejected Christ with rejected homosexuals. The message is evil, unbiblical, and blasphemous to God Almighty! This is another master deception by Satan to dupe naive people into believing that homosexuals are equal to Jesus in their sufferings.

Jesus was persecuted because He preached the TRUTH... John 8:40, "But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham." Jesus was rejected by most people because He spoke the Truth!

Homosexuals on the other hand, are not accepted because homosexuality is unhealthy, unnatural, uncivilized, and ungodly!!! We're talking apples and oranges here folks. How dare Becki Jayne, Kittredge Cherry, and other homosexuals, pervert the meaning of the cross of Christ, by alleging that their rejection is no different than what Jesus endured. Homosexuality MUST be rejected because it goes hand-in-hand with apostasy, AIDS, the deterioration of society, and the judgment of God.

Marsha Stevens is a professed Christian, who operates the ministry BALM (Born Again Lesbian Music). Sadly, Bill Gaither has befriended her, singing in concert with her, and has remained silent about the sin of homosexuality. Apostasy has crept into so many churches that today that a Bible-believing Christian is criticized for speaking out against sin. Tragically, the average professed "Christian" today is more upset with people like me (who preach against sin), than they are with the rockers, lesbians, abortionists, strippers, and shysters who deceitfully CLAIM to be "Christian."

Our churches are filled with modernists who aren't what they appear to be, "...having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away." That "power" is the Gospel (Romans 1:16). Modernists are everywhere today! They talk about the Bible, spiritual concepts, Biblical teachings, and the principles Jesus taught; BUT, they are unsaved, unregenerated, unrepentant, and on their way to Hell without Jesus Christ. They will certainly die in their sins if they continue on their present path of destruction.

I find the artwork above very offensive and blasphemous. Jesus was not a "faggot." The message being implied by the above picture is that any criticisms or rejection of homosexuality is equal to Christ-rejection. Talk about REVERSE-PSYCHOLOGY! Homosexuality is DIAMETRICALLY opposed to everything the Word of God teaches! The Bible is incontrovertible concerning the sinfulness of homosexuality. Any child knows that it was Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve. God called homosexuals "sodomites" in the Old Testament (King James Bible), linking their wicked sin with the destruction which fell upon Sodom and Gomorrah.

Is it any wonder why the apostate New International Version NIV translators completely removed the word "sodomite" from the Bible? To no surprise, the same parent company which publishes the NIV also publishes The Joy of Gay Sex. A homosexual recently wrote me, alleging that Ezekiel 16:49-50 indicates that Sodom wasn't destroyed mainly for homosexuality. Argue as they may, the hideous sin which is spotlighted in Genesis 19:4-11 is homosexuality. By the way, these same Scriptures in Genesis reveal the violence, lawlessness, cold-heartedness, and vile affections which become more evident in a homosexualized society. The United States is headed for some dark times as homosexuality saturates our society and churches.

Those Who Seek to Legitimize and Justify Homosexuality are LIARS!

Photo to Left: A popular gay painting of Judas showing homosexual affection to Christ. This is sick!

Anyone who pretends that Jesus was a homosexual is a deceiver! Judas did not kiss Jesus with homosexual affection. Jesus and John were not gay lovers! Kittredge Cherry's new book, Jesus In Love, presents Jesus and John as gay lovers. Kittredge Cherry is unjust towards the Savior. She admits that she CAN'T prove Jesus was homosexual, but she writes a fictitious novel attacking Him nevertheless.

She has assassinated Jesus' character! Woe unto those who attack the Lord, and take His name in vain! To say that Christ was a homosexual is the same as calling Him a sinner, which is a denial of His deity. Jesus hated iniquity (Hebrews 1:9). The Word of God states that homosexuality is an ABOMINATION (i.e., hate coupled with disgust) to God. Homosexuality is utterly disgusting.

Reason2012 #fundie christiannews.net

There's no such thing as homosexuals – only people who currently enjoy homosexuality. And adults continue to permanently turn away from homosexuality, even after decades of believing the lie they were “born that way”, proving it’s not genetic, but the product of indoctrination, confusion, mental instability and/or abuse.

And this is what God says about sin and specifically homosexuality:

Romans 1:26-27 ”For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: (27) And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their_lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.”

1 Corinthians 6:9-10 ”Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate [men who willingly take on the part of a “woman” with another man], nor abusers of themselves with mankind [sodomites], (10) Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.”

1 Timothy 1:9-10 ”Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, (10) For_whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind [s odomites], for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;”

Jude 1:7 ”Even as_Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.”

Luke 17:29 ”[Jesus said] But the same day that Lot went out of_Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.”

Matthew 19:4-6 ”And he [Jesus] answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, (5) And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh? (6) Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.”

Jesus made it quite clear God made us male and female so that a man will leave his father and mother (not two fathers, not three mothers and so on) and cleave onto his wife (not his husband and so on).

The Word of God rebukes us all – even if we all try to say we don’t believe the Bible, the very Word of God will be our judge when we face Him. And God is a righteous judge and will judge us all – not turn a blind eye to our sin. Do not be deceived by the world: it’s God we will have to convince that His word was a lie, not men. What happened in Noah’s day when the entire world rejected God? Did God spare them because there were so many? No – they all perished except for Noah and his family!

Proverbs 9:10 ”The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding.”

God spared not His chosen people – we are kidding ourselves if we think He will spare the United States of America if we choose to blatantly turn away from Him.

Jeremiah 12:17 ”But if they will not obey, I will utterly pluck up and destroy that nation, saith the LORD.”

Genesis 19:7-9 "And said, I pray you, brethren, do not so wickedly. (8) Behold now, I have two daughters which have not known man; let me, I pray you, bring them out unto you, and do ye to them as is good in your eyes: only unto these men do nothing; for therefore came they under the shadow of my roof. (9) And they said, Stand back. And they said again, This one fellow came in to sojourn, and he will needs be a judge: now will we deal worse with thee, than with them. And they pressed sore upon the man, even Lot, and came near to break the door."

Luke 17:28-30 "So also as it was in the days of Lot: they ate, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they built; (29) but the day Lot went out of Sodom, it rained fire and brimstone from the heaven and destroyed them all. (30) Even so it shall be in the day when the Son of Man is revealed."

Romans 1:18-32 "For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold [suppress] the truth in unrighteousness; Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.

For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

Therefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them."

The entire Bible points out men having_sex with men is an abomination. Likewise woman having_sex with women. It's not just Paul that pointed it out.

Genesis 19:4-13 "But before they lay down, the men of the city, even the men of Sodom, compassed the house round, both old and young, all the people from every quarter: And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them [men wanting to have_sex with men].

And Lot went out at the door unto them, and shut the door after him, And said, I pray you, brethren, do not so wickedly. Behold now, I have two daughters which have not known man; let me, I pray you, bring them out unto you, and do ye to them as is good in your eyes: only unto these men do nothing [he offers his daughters to be raped to keep them from having_sex with another man - shows rape is not the issue but male on male_sex]; for therefore came they under the shadow of my roof.

And they said, Stand back. And they said again, This one fellow came in to sojourn, and he will needs be a judge: now will we deal worse with thee, than with them. And they pressed sore upon the man, even Lot, and came near to break the door. But the men put forth their hand, and pulled Lot into the house to them, and shut to the door. And they smote the men that were at the door of the house with blindness, both small and great: so that they wearied themselves to find the door.

And the men said unto Lot, Hast thou here any besides? son in law, and thy sons, and thy daughters, and whatsoever thou hast in the city, bring them out of this place: For we will destroy this place, because the cry of them is waxen great before the face of the LORD; and the LORD hath sent us to destroy it."

Leviticus 18:22 "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination."

Leviticus 20:13 "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."

Even cross-dressing is an abomination:

Deuteronomy 22:5 "The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God."

Deuteronomy 23:17 "There shall be no_whore of the daughters of Israel, nor a sodomite of the sons of Israel."

1 Kings 22:46 "And the remnant of the sodomites, which remained in the days of his father Asa, he took out of the land."

1 Kings 15:11-12 "And Asa did that which was right in the eyes of the LORD, as did David his father. And he took away the sodomites out of the land, and removed all the idols that his fathers had made."

2 Kings 23:7 "And he brake down the houses of the sodomites, that were by the house of the LORD, where the women wove hangings for the grove."

Ezekiel 16:49-50 "Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy. And they were haughty, and committed abomination before me: therefore I took them away as I saw good."

And the "pride" parades about homosexuality are more of the same.

Matthew 19:4-5 "And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?"

Not father and father. Not mother and mother. Not his husband. And only two people off opposite gender can become "one flesh".

May God/Jesus Christ be glorified!

Matthew Gregory McLaughlin #fundie matthewgregorymclaughlin.wordpress.com

The ignorant notion that the Lord Jesus Christ was somehow silent or ambivalent about Sodomites is a fiction manufactured by liars with a bad conscience.

Christ’s animosity toward Sodomites was so ‘extreme’ that he professed an almost impatient desire to burn them all up.

The warning that Jesus Christ will return to burn up his enemies with unquenchable fire is repeatedly connected to the example of Sodom, the import of which is absolutely unmistakable: Sodomites will infect the world in the end of days, and Christ will return in his wrath for the very purpose of burning them in the torments of eternal fire.

Consider the following examples of ‘invidious discrimination’ and ‘hate speech’ of our Creator Jesus Christ toward sex-perverts:

#1 – Jesus said marriage is only between a man and woman:

“And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, 5 And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh? 6 Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.” (Matthew 19:4-6)(see also, Mark 10:6-9)

#2 – Jesus affirmed observance of the Old Testament Law (viz., Lev. 20:13):

“¶ Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. 18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. 19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.” (Matthew 5:17-19)

#3 – Jesus explained that the purpose of his return in the future will be to burn up the world’s sodomites with flaming fire:

“¶ I am come to send fire on the earth; and what will I, if it be already kindled? 50 But I have a baptism to be baptized with; and how am I straitened till it be accomplished! 51 Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division:.” (Luke 12:49-51)

“Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded; 29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all. 30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.” (Luke 17:28-30)

#4 – Jesus warned the friends of Sodomites of getting the same treatment:

“Remember Lot’s wife.” (Luke 17:32)

#5 – Jesus repeatedly said he would return to burn up the wicked:

“19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.” (Matthew 7:19)

“As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world. 41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; 42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.” (Matthew 13:40-42)

“Wherefore if thy hand or thy foot offend thee, cut them off, and cast them from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life halt or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet to be cast into everlasting fire. 9 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire.” (Matthew 18:8-9)

# 6 -Jesus’ disciples Peter and Jude – who lived with Christ and knew all his teachings – explained that the Sodomites weren’t doomed for being ‘unfriendly’ – they were damned for being sex perverts:

“Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. 8 Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.” (Jude 1:7-8)

“And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly; 7 And delivered just Lot, vexed with the filthy conversation of the wicked: 8 (For that righteous man dwelling among them, in seeing and hearing, vexed his righteous soul from day to day with their unlawful deeds;) 9 The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished:” (2 Peter 2:6-9)

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Those passages describe Sodomites as those who engage in ‘filthy’ ‘unlawful’ ‘fornication’ – and they make it crystal clear that the same such perverts will be burned to ashes in the most horrifying manner imaginable by the Lord Jesus Christ.

Still think Jesus was non-committal on the issue of destroying Sodomites? If so, please donate your frontal lobe to science so they can study the densest matter in the universe.

Better-informed Sodomites don’t display their stupidity as recklessly as to make the bizarre claim of taking a sworn enemy like the Lord Jesus Christ as their benefactor. That’s a phenomenon reserved for the worst of the worst – the most shameless and blind of the entire bunch.

Degenerates should claim for themselves a moral relativist like Buddha, or some a worldly philosopher that tried to deny the judgment to come. Call upon whatever gods you want – but don’t call upon Jesus Christ, unless you repent.

Hating evil is Jesus Christ’s eternal joy:

“Thou lovest righteousness, and hatest wickedness: therefore God, thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.” (Psalms 45:7)

“For thou art not a God that hath pleasure in wickedness: neither shall evil dwell with thee. 5 The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity.” (Psalms 5:4-5)

“For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.” (Revelation 22:15)

Gardendale #racist theroot.com

A judge told a mostly white suburb near one of the blackest cities in the country that—after reviewing all of the facts—she believed the town’s request to separate itself was motivated by race. She stressed that the move could encourage feelings of racial inferiority among the district’s black students. The judge chastised the white citizens for trying to minimize school desegregation laws. Then, with a pound of her gavel, she allowed them to do it anyway.

Just north of Birmingham, Ala., sits the tiny suburb of Gardendale. While Birmingham’s 74 percent black population ranks it as America’s fourth-blackest city, Gardendale’s population is 88 percent white. Gardendale’s median family income is more than double that of Birmingham, too, giving the small town a lucrative tax base. In recent years, most of Birmingham’s affluent suburbs have left the struggling Jefferson County Schools’ system to form smaller districts, but until now, a judge had never examined the racial reasons and implications as closely, according to a report by the Washington Post.

U.S. District Judge Madeline Haikala heard the case of Jefferson County Board of Education v. Gardendale City Board of Education and issued an extensive, wide-ranging ruling Wednesday. The case was not overly complex and was mostly black vs. white. The white residents of Gardendale wanted to break away from the county’s schools, creating a new district that reflected the demographics of the city. The parents of black students in Gardendale’s schools said the white parents just wanted to get rid of the schools’ black students.

In her 190-page ruling, Haikala admitted that Gardendale City’s motivations were based on race and inequality. She pointed to a Facebook group with thinly veiled racist messages and wrote about flyers that listed “some of the best” white schools that had already left Jefferson County Schools alongside a list of “bad” racially mixed schools, with a white child asking, “Which one will you choose?” The report noted that the flyers delivered an “unambiguous message of inferiority.” The ruling reprimanded the parents for their continued reference to “Smithfield kids” (a reference to a mostly black section of Jefferson County whose children attend Gardendale schools) in a degrading manner.

The ruling extensively referenced desegregation cases and how they impacted her ruling. The judge explicitly admitted that race seemed to be Gardendale’s primary motivation, finding such to be worse than some of the desegregations of the civil rights era, writing:

"Given these findings, the Court would be within its discretion if it were simply to deny Gardendale’s motion to separate. Were it not for a number of practical considerations, the Court would do just that. As was the case in Stout II, though, some of the circumstances surrounding Gardendale’s attempt to separate are deplorable ..."

Deplorable. But even though she saw that Gardendale’s motives were based on the idea that the school district’s black students were inferior; even though she noted that it would set back the county’s desegregation efforts to make schools equal; and even though it would negatively impact the black students who already attend Gardendale schools, she allowed Gardendale to move forward anyway.

“It’s hard to square,” said Monique Lin-Luse, an NAACP Legal Defense and Educational Fund lawyer who represented black parents.

No one could figure it out. However, the Gardendale parents were ecstatic.

“We know that the community is anxious and ready to achieve its goal of a locally led public school system. We are, too,” said Chris Segroves, the new board’s president.

There are no quotes from the black students who will all have to attend new schools, knowing it is only because of the color of their skin.

LIBERALFACISTS #fundie premierchristianity.com

I have read Ezekiel thanks,I've also read Jude 1:7,the only possibility for the two texts to be congruent,is if the 'so they committed abominations' ..refers to the sexual immorality we see on display in Genesis 19
where all of the men of Sodom expressed their desire for homosexuality..

"who indulged in sexual immorality and pursued strange flesh, are on display as an example of those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire."

Jude 1:7

(as Jude requires an example)to act as a warning to others,we have this in Genesis 19 ,where all the men of Sodom desire to have homosexual sex with Angels they believed to be men.

So although they did commit other sins,they were not the reason given for their destruction.

As you will notice,the sins of not having regard for the poor and needy,being overfed and complacent,although sinful are not punishable by death under Levitical law....homosexuality however is.

David Stephan #quack #conspiracy respectfulinsolence.com

I’ve been writing about the case of Ezekiel Stephan since 2016. The reason, of course, is that Ezekiel Stephan was a healthy toddler living in Alberta who died unnecessarily because his parents, David and Collett Stephan, chose to treat him with “holistic” treatments, including olive leaf extract, whey protein, and supplements made by David Stephan’s company Truehope, as over a couple of weeks Ezekiel got sicker and sicker and sicker from what turned out to be bacterial meningitis. By the time the conventional medical system was involved, which didn’t occur until the Stephans called emergency services because Ezekiel had had a respiratory arrest. EMS managed to get Ezekiel to the hospital, but it was too late. He did not survive long, dying in the hospital of massive sepsis from his infection.

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Unfortunately, the Canadian Supreme Court reversed the conviction on a technicality and granted the Stephans a new trial in 2018. The results of that trial were not good. In a massive miscarriage of justice, Justice Terry Clackson acquitted the Stephans in a ruling that used such insulting language about a key expert witness for the Crown that a formal complaint of racism was made against him and based the acquittal on such brain dead reasoning and an egregious misinterpretation of the facts and belief of a dubious expert witness for the defense that the Crown decided to appeal. So at odds with reality was the ruling that, personally, I strongly suspect that the fix was in.

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I don’t want to re-argue the facts of the case against the distortions, misinformation, and dubious arguments about the case being promoted by Stephan, his supporters, and the various quacks who have taken up the Stephans’ cause. I’m more interested in showing how Stephan is portraying himself, and, unsurprisingly, it’s as a victim. For example, a week ago on Facebook:

He starts out by complaining that the Canadian Medical Association has alerted its 75,000 members about his case and how they should feel and act about it, claiming, as he did in his blog post, that the CMA is engaged in an effort to influence the court to rule against him and his wife.

Savagesusie #fundie freerepublic.com

They are one and the same. Both are irrational, vile behaviors and irrational ideology which uses others as a means to an end and is a collective, group-(non)-think, ideology where Truth (God/reality) and reason never exist.

That homosexuals “love” the people whom they desire to sodomize is the Big Lie. It is lust and desire to dominate (control). It is a perverted, warped vile desire (intrinsically disordered) which is caused because of child abuse and child neglect. All behaviors/desires are learned and habituated and trauma in childhood can really warp a child. Children in muslim cultures are severely traumatized, as are sexually abused children and those whom have no loving father figure or an evil mother.

Chastity Bono was raped by a lesbian as a child, as was Milk, Hays, Spacey, Milo, etc. etc. -—all behaviors are learned and habituated in childhood or perverted and warped because of neglect and abuse. The parent who allows the abuse to happen, loses all trust and the anger in a child will make them reject reality, Truth (God), etc. They hate and ability to “love” is warped completely. It is easy to emasculate little boys.

Warping children can be as simple as making little boys hate their fathers which is common for socialist (welfare) “mothers”. That natural need to connect to a male role model for little boys is severely warped and will lead to warped relationship with all males, as it is for girls who have no loving male role model (father). Destroying the Natural family was crucial to the Cultural Marxists who took over our institutions by the 50s—to collapse culture and destroy the virtue in children—so they will be warped.

The fixation in the puerile stage of latency is pure narcissism which is what homosexuality is—a fixation so that true love (selflessness) will not likely occur (the love of “the Other”—true diversity).

Islam is irrational, also, and sodomy is fine in islam, esp. with children. It is a homosexual culture and harems of boys are not abnormal. For procreation, they never allow the irrational concept of “homosexual” “marriage” since males learn to hate women anyhow, and visa versa, which is what homosexuality is all about—immaturity—the inability to love the Other.

Homosexuals love the Same which is always a fixation in latency. All little girls should prefer to play with girls and boys with boys. It is part of normal sexual identity formation which will lead to maturity if no trauma occurs (sex “ed” or rape or lack of loving role models of male and female).

Sex Ed now teaches little boys that they are homosexual in latency if they prefer boys over girls which warps their sexual identity.....as does ALL hyper sexualization of children. Sex Ed was a Lukacs/Adorno creation to destroy the Christian worldview in little children and fixate them in the latency stage and make them totally irrational, dumb, and immature (fixated in latency).

Immaturity is rampant in our culture now, because of the publik skool system which traps children in dependency and group (non) think for 12 years so maturity can never happen (thinking for self). Just programmed “bots” are what the evil, unconstitutional system pumps out.

Mack Major #fundie facebook.com

When President Trump claims there is a WITCH hunt out to get him - that can be taken literally.

Have Christians forgotten that witches have been trying to get him removed from office since he won the presidency? http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/lana-del-rey-joins-effort-to-defeat-trump-with-witchcraft-w468892

I'm curious how many Christians are praying for him to be successful - like we are commanded to do in 1 Timothy 2:1-3 - compared to how many have been nonchalantly hoping he'll fail, just like the witches are doing by consulting evil spirits against the man?

Funny how witches care more about politics than Christians do. What do witches know about the power of politics that Christians will regret NOT knowing in the near future? You cannot be a non-participant pacifist in the midst of a spiritual war!

Both Christians and witches claim to have supernatural power: theirs comes from evil spirits and ours comes from the Holy Spirit. Yet they seem far more dedicated to 'winning' through their demon power than Christians do with our Holy Ghost power! Jesus told His disciples:

"John said to Jesus, "Master, we saw someone using your name to cast out demons, but we told him to stop because he isn't in our group." But Jesus said, "Don't stop him! Anyone who is not against you is for you." John 9:49-50 NLT

Duh! I wish more believers understood this about Donald Trump. He's been very pro-Christian since he took the office. Instead it looks like the witches have cast an effective spell that even blinds the minds of many Christians.

This is why we must not be compromised in any way by sin or laziness. Sin allows an inroad for the enemy to bring confusion and harm against us. We don't all have to vote the same, but we should be clear-minded enough to see when God is moving through someone - whether we agree with them 100% or not.

It doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure out: if the demon-filled witches are against him, perhaps the Spirit-filled believer should be praying for him. That's just simple spiritual commonsense.

Pray for your President to win - not for his downfall. You never know: your destiny as a believer in this country may be directly tied to his success (or failure) as a President.

John16:2 #fundie christianforums.com

True Christians are required to believe the angels of the Bible are real. Angels heal people in John 5, and arrest the evilest in Matthew 13:49-50. The Lord returns with his mighty angels in 2 Thessalonians 1:7-9, taking vengeance.

Zechariah 5; a flying roll in the sky reported. A pillar of fire in the sky led Moses & Hebrews from Egypt. Ezekiel 1 deals with flying objects. Elijah & Jeshua both taken into the sky. So UFOs ARE CONNECTED IN THE BIBLE TO ANGELS!

DoctorDoom #fundie libertydwells.com

Here's how evowackos "debate".

• They use "science", "scientist" and/or "scientific" ar least five times in every grammatically incompetent sentence;
• They claim to be scientists/professors of science in prestigious institutions such as MIT, but their abysmal ignorance of science exposes them as teen trolls within a few posts;
• They are without exception pompous, arrogant, ignorant, contentious, insulting, brazen, shameless, and clueless;
• They are with few exceptions the first in an ev thread to raise the issue of faith and religion;
• They attack my Christianity and the Bible even though I have NEVER cited either in my incisive demolitions of their junk science;
• They accuse creationinists/ID advocates of being religious, but they worship Darwin and cite/quote TalkOrigins as their godless bible;
• They utterly refuse to address any scientifically sound rebuttal of their mythology;
• They universally insist that natural selection renders math and probabilities irrelevant and makes the impossible inevitable;
• They invariably cite consensus as their proof of evolutionism;
• They load their Plan-9-level bullshit with subjunctive-mode words/phrases such as "might have", "may have", "could have", "it is assumed", "it is thought", "it is supposed", "let us imagine", etcetera, and they have the balls to call that science;
• And on and on and on ad nauseam.

It would be refreshing to encounter one of the zit-popping little snot-eaters who actually attempted to debate rather than reciting their tedious mantras that we've all heard/read at least a hundred times.

sleeperd #fundie thehill.com

It is becoming glaringly apparent that these institutions of "higher
learning" are becoming a real threat to our national security. They are
producing historically illiterate, ignorantly indoctrinated, pompously
arrogant, anti-American useful stooges who have no concept of how the world
works. They belong to the everyone-gets-a-trophy snowflake crowd who have no
idea how to cope with adversity.. and believe they are entitled to... whatever
they want.

The taxpayers had better regain control of these institutions or expect to see
hordes of these spoiled leftist brats clogging their streets for years to come.

Salty Saints #fundie pawcreek.org

Death is such a beautiful thing, and death is such a horrible thing. It’s actually both, depending wholly on the passing pilgrim. Death is just as beautiful as a saintly life or just as dark as an unbelieving life. No one can doubt that death is inescapable. The words of God have spoken, “… it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment” (Hebrews 9:27). Death is such a landmark of life that it must be designed as one would write their will.

The noted French atheist, Voltaire, died a frightening death. Let me quote for you the exact record as published, “When Voltaire felt the stroke that he realized must terminate in death, he was overpowered with remorse. He at once sent for the priest, and wanted to be ‘reconciled with the church.’ His infidel flatterers hastened to his chamber to prevent his recantation; but it was only to witness his ignominy and their own. He cursed them to their faces; and, as his distress was increased by their presence, he repeatedly and loudly exclaimed, ‘Begone! It is you that have brought me to my present condition. Leave me, I say; begone! What a wretched glory is this which you have produced to me!’

“Hoping to allay his anguish by a written recantation, he had it prepared, signed it, and saw it witnessed. But it was all unavailing. For two months he was tortured with such an agony as led him at times to gnash his teeth in impotent rage against God and man. At other times in plaintive accents, he would plead, ‘O, Christ! O, Lord Jesus!’ Then, turning his face, he would cry out, ‘I must die-abandoned of God and of men!’

“As his end drew near, his condition became so frightful that his infidel associates were afraid to approach his beside. Still they guarded the door, that others might not know how awfully an infidel was compelled to die. Even his nurse repeatedly said, ‘For all the wealth of Europe I would never see another infidel die.’ It was a scene of horror that lies beyond all exaggeration. Such is the well-attested end of the one who had a natural sovereignty of intellect, excellent education, great wealth, and much earthly honor.” (Dying Testimonies of Saved and Unsaved by Rev. S B Shaw, pp. 49-50.)

Reading of such a dying experience is overwhelming, even to us who are secure in salvation. Human emotions are a powerful source and no one can live and die without them. Our present generation has mainly escaped the horror of unpreparing for death by the use of drugs to kill all pain. Sadly, the beauty of a Godly death is also lost in our drug culture. The new “right” of the health world is the right to be free of pain. In most cases, the pain or joy is simply transferred to the immediate moments after death. We are spared both the joy and the screams.

Our Bible teaches us the absolute beauty of a saint’s death, “Precious in the sight of the LORD is the death of his saints” (Psalm 116:15). Isaiah spoke by prophecy of the triumph that Jesus Christ would accomplish over death, “He will swallow up death in victory; and the Lord GOD will wipe away tears from off all faces; and the rebuke of his people shall he take away from off all the earth: for the LORD hath spoken it” (Isaiah 25:8). Apostle Paul echoed this great prophecy, “O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory? The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law. But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ” (I Corinthians 15:55-57).

Now, let’s visit a great saint of God in his death. This Godly man has often encouraged me by his bravery in martyrdom. A great persecution was raging in the city of Smyrna and the cry was heard, “Let Polycarp be sought for.” He was taken and the proconsul gave this aged man an opportunity to recant his faith and trust in Christ. “He nobly replied, ‘Eighty and six years I have served Christ, who has never done me any injury: how then can I blaspheme my King and Saviour?’

“When he was brought to the stake, the executioner offered, as usual, to nail him to it; but he said, ‘Let me alone as I am: He who has given me strength to come to the fire, will also give me patience to abide in it, without being fastened with nails.’

“Part of his last prayer, at his death, was as follows, ‘O God, the Father of Thy beloved son, Jesus Christ, by whom we have received the knowledge of Thyself; O God of angels and powers, of ever creature, and of all the just who live in Thy presence; I thank Thee that Thou hast graciously vouchsafed, this day and this hour, to allot me a portion amongst the number of martyrs. O Lord, receive me; and make me a companion of saints in the resurrection, through the merits of our great High Priest, the Lord Jesus Christ. I praise and adore Thee, through thy beloved Son, to whom, with Thee, and Thy Holy Spirit, be all honor and glory, both now and forever.’” (Ibid., p. 17.)

A young man that had put off the call of the Holy Ghost and blasphemed Him, lie dying. His doctor had pleaded that he repent. Burying his face in his pillow he stated, “Oh! I have missed it at last” and then he died. A young lady wonderfully saved in a great revival became ill and had bid all her loved ones a happy goodbye. As she was dying, she joyfully told her sisters, “Don’t weep for me. Jesus is with me, I will not have to go alone.” She looked up as seeing someone special coming for her and then said, “Come on, I am ready to go.” She was gone!

Death can be so beautiful. Stephen, the first of the seven elders chosen to care for the widows, was arrested. After his powerful sermon to the angry mob, he was stoned to death. As he died, the Bible records his parting testimony, “And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God. Then they cried out with a loud voice, and stopped their ears, and ran upon him with one accord, And cast him out of the city, and stoned him: and the witnesses laid down their clothes at a young man’s feet, whose name was Saul. And they stoned Stephen, calling upon God, and saying, Lord Jesus, receive my spirit. And he kneeled down, and cried with a loud voice, Lord, lay not this sin to their charge. And when he had said this, he fell asleep” (Acts 7:56-60).

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John16:2 #fundie christianforums.com

[Responding to the accusation of flat out denying evidence]

HA! I've been waiting for a chance to post this one;

"So shall it be at the end of the world, the angels shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the just, and shall cast them into the fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth"-Matthew 13:49-50.

Come and get it aliens! All the evil you can eat or feed your chupacabras! Angels kill the evilest third of the population, who aren't arrested instead in Rev 9. ufoevidence.org

Jack In Texas #fundie thefoxnation.com

This pompous, arrogant "dictator" Obama and his "woman" Nancy P. will wind up as the many idiots before them...defeated and more than likely, victims of a violent death. "Those who don't read history are forced to repeat it" . These two Jerks are going down the road that countless despots before them have trod. They actually think that they can spit at God, flip Him the bird, and tell Him what HE can do with His Laws! God will let them have as much rope as they want to hang themselvs... Than, when GOD has had enough HE will crush both of them like the little worms that they are! Anyone who has an IQ above 40 should be able to see it starting to happan already! I love to see the way God works...it is NEVER in ways that we expect...it is ALWAYS gradually, and through natural means! Obama and his band in Washington will eventually destroy themselves through their self indulgences and corruption, and lack of respect for human life AND for GOD Himself....it is just a matter of time! Our Lord will use the people of this nation to clean house! Watch and see! I think the "cleanup job" is going to begin on April 15th...

DoctorDoom #fundie libertydwells.com

Here's how evowackos "debate".

• They use "science", "scientist" and/or "scientific" ar least five times in every grammatically incompetent sentence;
• They claim to be scientists/professors of science in prestigious institutions such as MIT, but their abysmal ignorance of science exposes them as teen trolls within a few posts;
• They are without exception pompous, arrogant, ignorant, contentious, insulting, brazen, shameless, and clueless;
• They are with few exceptions the first in an ev thread to raise the issue of faith and religion;
• They attack my Christianity and the Bible even though I have NEVER cited either in my incisive demolitions of their junk science;
• They accuse creationinists/ID advocates of being religious, but they worship Darwin and cite/quote TalkOrigins as their godless bible;
• They utterly refuse to address any scientifically sound rebuttal of their mythology;
• They universally insist that natural selection renders math and probabilities irrelevant and makes the impossible inevitable;
• They invariably cite consensus as their proof of evolutionism;
• They load their Plan-9-level bullshit with subjunctive-mode words/phrases such as "might have", "may have", "could have", "it is assumed", "it is thought", "it is supposed", "let us imagine", etcetera, and they have the balls to call that science;
• And on and on and on ad nauseam.

It would be refreshing to encounter one of the zit-popping little snot-eaters who actually attempted to debate rather than reciting their tedious mantras that we've all heard/read at least a hundred times.

Scooter1854 #fundie beliefnet.com

as a Christian there are some rights not afforded to us.

[Um, which rights exactly?]

How about the right to return violence with violence? Or how about the right to be pompous and arrogant and self-righteous?

There are many people that can and are afforded the opportunity to act in the above ways. Christians are given no such luxury.

Raymond #fundie motherjones.com

On November 06, 2012, The United States of America passed away with an almost silent whimper. She was 236 years old. The grand old lady died of neglect, stupidity, arrogance and pure abuse at the hands of both her leaders and its ignorant populace. She will be survived by the Socialist Democratic Republic of Obamerica or SDRO.Also killed in this same massive, catastrophic, progressive wreck were personal freedoms, American values, exceptionalism, The Constitution, economic growth, conservatism, fiscal sanity, American unity, free markets, life's sanctity, marriage between man and woman, Republicanism, free will, self-reliance and many more so mutilated as to be unrecognizable any longer. July 4, 1776 - Born
November 6, 2012 - Committed Suicide

RoseAnn Salanitri #fundie conservativenewsandviews.com

Predictions, prophecies and possibilities

Throughout the ages many have set dates for the Second Coming of Christ. Within the last two centuries, the Millerites and Harold Camping both presented logical (but wrong) arguments to support their predictions. The Millerite prediction for the Second Coming was 1843, which they then represented was misunderstood and should be have been interpreted as a “cleansing in heaven” and not on earth. More recently, Harold Camping predicted the Lord’s return in 1994, which he then revised to 2011.1 While such beliefs were sincere and well-founded, they ignored the Scripture that tells us that no one knows the day or the hour – only God in heaven. However, Jesus emphatically warned us to watch for the signs of the times so that we would not be overtaken as victims of a thief who comes in the night.

As we begin a new year, we should review and consider the fulfillment of the signs Christ spoke about. It needs to be stated clearly that this is not meant to suggest any time line, but only to increase awareness of the likelihood of Christ’s impending return. For although many prophecies have been fulfilled, that does not mean that we can set any date, for the Lord is not slack in returning but wishing that all should come to repentance (2 Peter 3:9). Therefore, it is the will of God that the time frame we label as the “end times” very well can last an incalculable period of time until He is satisfied that all that will come to repentance have come to repentance.

Two fulfilled predictions in modern times

While there are many fulfilled prophecies regarding this time period, I will only discuss two.

Daniel 12:4 (NASB) says: “But as for you, Daniel, conceal these words and seal up the book until the end of time; many will go back and forth, and knowledge will increase.” Any soccer mom, or anyone stuck in rush hour traffic, or anyone who has spent time at an airport would be hard-pressed to deny that people are running back and forth all over the place. It is also undeniable that the last two decades have experienced a historically unparalleled increase in knowledge.

Luke 18:8b says: “However, when the Son of Man comes, will He find faith on the earth?” Since 1859, the teachings of Evolution have assaulted the faith of many by challenging the veracity of Scripture, and consequently, the existence of God. As a result, the faith of many has not materialized.

Two key intervals

In addition to fulfilled prophecy, there are two significant time pins that are noteworthy.

1. Daniel 12:11 (NASB): “From the time that the regular sacrifice is abolished and the abomination of desolation is set up, there will be 1,290 days.” Ellis H. Skofield in his book The False Prophet, argues that this abomination is the Dome of the Rock by calculating a year based on 360 days until AD. Thereafter, counting one day for a year, as Daniel’s prophecies established with the birth and death of Christ. Using this formula, 1290 days from 552 BC (the time of Belshazzar) brings you to 688 AD, or the year the Dome of the Rock was built. At that point Muslims took over Israel’s most holy location, which made it impossible to worship on the Temple Mount…and yes, spiritually and in the eyes of the one true God, it is an abomination! (Also see Ezekiel 8:1-8; 16.)

When Israel came back

2. Daniel 7:25 (NASB): ‘He will speak out against the Most High and wear down the saints of the Highest One, and he will intend to make alterations in times and in law; and they will be given into his hand for a time, times, and half a time.” The “he” referred to in this verse is a world leader whom many have labeled the Antichrist, but Scripture also tells us that the spirit of the Antichrist is already at work. Entire books can be written about this demonic spirit(s) and the form(s) it will take. Here we are discussing time pins, which requires a judgment call – or dare I say “an educated guess?” Assuming that Daniel’s original point of reference goes back to the first year of Belshazzar (552 BC), and a time, times, and half a time equates to 2500 years, we arrive at the year 1948, the year Israel once again became a nation.

Part 2 will deal with America’s possible roles in prophecy (including the administration of Donald Trump) and the political signs given in Scripture. Contrary to what many believe, throughout history and as recorded in biblical prophecies, faith systems of all kinds and politics do intertwine. The two time pins mentioned above are both spiritual and political in nature. To be sure, according to the books of Daniel and Revelation, we can expect this duality to continue. Until then, lift up your heads and watch, because your redemption is drawing near. Luke 21:28 NASB.

Editor’s Note:

1Harold Camping’s 2011 prediction failed – twice in one year. He suffered a stroke and died in that year. His Family Radio empire died with him. Your editor noted that Radio Station WFME, the Family Radio affiliate in West Orange, New Jersey, quietly went off the air.

Mike Huckabee #fundie #wingnut facebook.com

Over the past decade, Washington politicians have pumped more than $4 billion into Planned Parenthood. It's abhorrent and insane that Washington forcibly confiscate money from our paychecks only to bankroll Planned Parenthood’s repulsive, revolting butchers.

Congress neglects our veterans' hospitals, abandons our borders, and bankrupts our children, but somehow finds plenty of money for the abortion industry. Talk about priorities! How many harvested organs will it take before this madness ends? The facts are staggering.

Planned Parenthood performs 327,000 abortions per year, approximately one every 96 seconds. Government grants, funds, and reimbursements account for 41% of Planned Parenthood's income. In total, they earn $1.3 billion in annual revenue.

Harvesting human organs to be swapped and sold like brake pads for a Buick is beyond barbaric, it’s unimaginably immoral, grotesque, and evil. But it’s salt in a sick, painful wound that American taxpayers are forced to finance these horrific practices.

Nancy Pelosi and Hillary Clinton call Planned Parenthood a "healthcare provider," but the facts tell an appallingly different story. They invest virtually nothing on adoption and pennies on prenatal care. In fact, of every dollar they spend on services for pregnant women, 94 cents go to abortion. It's clear that Planned Parenthood isn’t a "healthcare provider" any more than a heroin dealer is a community pharmacist.

But defunding Planned Parenthood is not enough. Even if Congress defunds these butchers entirely, they would still have $800 million in private funds each year to murder innocent babies. Worse still, another 700,000 abortions occur annually at other abortion clinics.

I have a better plan. It’s time we end the scourge of abortion in America. It’s time we demand that Washington do much more than just "Defund Planned Parenthood". It’s time we stop these senseless, sinful killings that deprive life and liberty from unborn persons.

Our Constitution guarantees a right to life – not a right to kill babies. We often say "God Bless America!" but how CAN God bless America if we engage is such uncivilized infanticide.

XTOATHIEST #conspiracy answers.yahoo.com

THE FAKE UNITED NATIONS MANMADE ISREAL IS THE ABOMINATIONS THAT CAUSE DESOLATION:
Ezekiel 38 mentions how Gog, the chief prince of Meshec and Tubal, the Son of Japhet, from the Isle's of the gentiles and lands of the north, aka Europe,(Genesis 10:2). Come against the Land of the real ISRAEL, in the latter days. Gog cannot be Iran for obvious reasons being that it is the land of Persia also mentioned in Ezekiel 38 as a separate entity. Ezekiel 38:10 mentions How the thought of "stealing" the real Israel came to the prince of Meshec and Tubal, GOG. That's why there is so much conflict in the middle east now. That's why 9/11 was an inside job. That's why they want to go to war with Iran and like talking about it everyday on the news.

GOG,MAGOG,MESHEC AND TUBAL are not descendents of Shem, read Genesis 10:2 it's there in plain english. They are descendants of Japheth, brother to Shem. They are the one's who go against the Land of Israel, by force and occupation mentioned in Ezekiel 38 in the latter days AKA NOW. They are the one's who thought the evil thought mentioned in Ezekiel38:10. That thought was to PLAGIARISE The Word of YAHUWAH and His Prophecy. YHWH even mentions how it brings His "fury upon His face", when they do it. We are in the latter days as the fake "UN" created isreal is 100% undeniable proof. The same entity that is behind 9/11 is also behind the creation of the UN's fake 'isreal'.

Also when YAHUWAH/YAHUSHUA addresses the 7 churches of Asia in the Book of Revelation, which are where the 144,000 of the lost tribe of Israel will be chosen from, they would have to be believers in order for Him to address them. The jewish people of the fake UN created 'isreal' don't believe in the one people wrongfully call 'jesus', so where does that make any sense? Gog and Magog are the sole owners of the fake UN created 'isreal'. Satanic forces under the guidance of satan deceived the world into believing who 'isreal' really is supposed to be, but it is YAHUWAH'S will because the people who were to represent Him, whom He blessed as the Sons of Shem, disobeyed Him and were sinning TREMENDOUSLY. We all are paying for sin no matter how close you are to your Creator.

The Rev. William H. Grimes, “Sermon 10” #fundie simplychristian.referata.com

Sermon 10: ME!

By The Rev. William H. Grimes

“This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God.”- 2 Thessalonians 3:1-4

There’s this new song out there, aptly called “ME!” It’s by the wicked harlot Taylor Swift and sodomite Brandon Urie of “Panic at the Disco” fame. The song is Swift and Urie boasting that one will never find another like them, “you’ll never find another like ME!!!!!” How wicked! Such arrogance and narcissism that is absolutely abominable in the sight of the Living God!!!!! SUCH IS AN ABSOLUTELY WRETCHED ABOMINATION UNTO OUR LORD AND SAVIOR! MERE MAN IS NOT SO GREAT TO BE UTTERLY UNIQUE! SAY AMEN IN THE HOUSE OF THE LIVING GOD!!! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

One of the lyrics is “you can’t spell awesome without me!” This is vanity and ungodly reprehensible tackiness if I’ve ever heard it. Why does Urie insist upon worshiping himself instead of Christ?! He’d probably be engaging in bedroom conduct with Swift as well if it wasn’t clear that he is a sodomite! Taylor Swift is a sodomite but she’s a bisexual woman who’s engaged in sinful conduct such as lesbianism with Karlie Kloss and that other pompous woman who cannot wear modest apparel as the Apostle Paul said!

Apparently Swift also decided to become a drag king for this video!!!! SHE WAS WEARING A SUIT AND TIE AND WAS HAVING SLICKED BACK SHORT HAIR! DEUTERONOMY 22:5 SAITH NO WOMAN SHALT WEAR THE GARMENT OF A MAN! THAT IS ABOMINABLE IN THE SIGHT OF THE LIVING GOD!!!! YEEEEEEEEEEEOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWW!!!!

Look, this filth is infiltrating the minds of the masses! This music video broke the record number of views in the first 24 hours on YouTube! No more! We need to just listen to good old fashioned Baptist hymns and reject pop music and rap and country and western and rock and roll!!!!!! IT IS ABSOLUTELY VILE SEWAGE AND DOES NOT HELP YOU GET RIGHT WITH ALMIGHTY GOD! God’s people said AMEN!

Consult The Rock #fundie ripoffreport.com

[Someone starts a boycott B&N campaign because they are allegedly forcing all established bookstores in the mall to close when the new B&N store opens, this is in the comments section]

YOU CAN'T TRUST ANY OF THEM. THEY'VE GONE TO SPEWING OUT SODOMITE PROPAGANDA SEWAGE

I don't know of any large bookstore that doesn't have a sodomite abominable section. The section glorifies sodomites - Genesis 13, 19; Exodus, Leviticus, Deuteronomy 21, 23, 27; 1Kings 15:11-12, 2Kings 23:7, Isaiah 1:18, 3:9, 5:20-23; Psalms 73, all of Psalms; Proverbs 10:27, all of Proverbs; Romans 1:26-27, etc. within Romans; 1Corinthians 6:9-11, 18}, 1Timothy 1, 2Timothy 3, 2Peter, Jude 7, Revelation, etc, etc, etc! - and has even more lies ABOUT HISTORY, every day life and what sodomites practice (Eph 5:11-13) and do to innocent children (Gen 13:13, 19; Lev 20:13) and to teenagers than the nea, aclu, charles darwin, g brock chisholm and karl marx!! Instead of boycotting, customers continue to patronize those open sewers. It is pathetic. We outnumber that disease ridden, child molesting, dirty, abominable group by a minimum of 49 to one. Yet we give them our business. This must cease if civilization is going to continue to exist. Garbage is extremely popular nowadays. Look at how many have a one-eyed monster: the television.

David J. Stewart #fundie jesus-is-savior.com

NAMBLA are a siI believe in rights too, but NOT for homosexuals to promote their filth. No child should ever be taught that it's “normal” for two men or two women to have sex. It is sickening! The demonic feminist movement has generated millions of lesbians all across America! Feminism! Lesbianism! Abortion! Homosexuality! Demonic Rock-n-Roll music! Adulterous Country music! Legal prostitution! Drug abuse! Alcoholism! Gambling! Pornography! Divorce! Child abuse! How much more of this debauchery will God tolerate? The Family Research Institute provides statistics on the evils of homosexuality. Their website is being systematically banned because they tell the truth about homosexuality. Please read Violence and Homosexuality.

Homosexuality is almost as evil as it gets. The infamous Cheshire, Connecticut, rape and murders of a mother (Jennifer Hawke-Petit) and her two young daughters (Michaela, 11 and Hayley, 17) in 2007, were committed by two thug assailants who both later confessed to authorities of having been sexually abused by homosexuals as youth. Don't you dare tell me that homosexuality is harmless. Evil begets more evil. All homosexuals have pederast (desiring young boys) tendencies. That's why NAMBLA exists (North American Man-Boy Love Association), who are trying to lower the age of consent so that they can sodomize America's sons. Jeffrey Dahmer (16 murders) was a homosexual deviant, as was John Wayne Gacy (33 murders). All 49 known victims were boys and young men.

Parents, teach your children the signs of homosexual behavior and how to protect themselves if lured. I admire Russian President Vladimir Putin, who has signed laws protecting Russia's children from homosexual propaganda and has banned the adoption of children by queers! Amen for that!!! Where's Anita Bryant when we need her more than ever in 2015?

Comparing “civil rights” to “gay rights” is like comparing apples with oranges! The big difference is that everything about homosexuality is IMMORAL, UNNATURAL, and a THREAT to society. The fact that two like sexes CANNOT reproduce is solid evidence that homosexuality is VERY abnormal. No one is born gay, because God doesn't make mistakes. The FACT that two men, or two women, CANNOT bring forth a natural child is irrefutable evidence against them. The very idea of such reprobates of society adopting children is unthinkable. How is a growing child supposed to develop properly when they are missing either a father or a mother?

I would also like to point out a FACT that is purposely avoided by the Godless newsmedia. The Catholic church has been PLAGUED with child-molesting priests; BUT, what the media won't stress is that most of the offenders are homosexuals too! Homosexuality and pedophile are virtually INSEPARABLE! Regardless of what the American Psychiatric Institute or other “experts” may claim, the daily news reports that we keep hearing about are self-evident PROOF!

David J. Stewart #fundie google.com.au

Homosexuality is an advanced stage of rebellion against a holy God. Homosexuals are spiritually walled behind layers of sinful pride, lascivious lusts, anger, humanism, idolatry, resentment against God, ingratitude, foolishness and darkness.

Homosexuality is almost as evil as it gets. The infamous Cheshire, Connecticut, rape and murders of a mother (Jennifer Hawke-Petit) and her two young daughters (Michaela, 11 and Hayley, 17) in 2007, were committed by two thug assailants who both later confessed to authorities of having been sexually abused by homosexuals as youth. Don't you dare tell me that homosexuality is harmless. Evil begets more evil. All homosexuals have pederast (desiring young boys) tendencies. That's why NAMBLA exists (North American Man-Boy Love Association), who are trying to lower the age of consent so that they can sodomize America's sons. Jeffrey Dahmer (16 murders) was a homosexual deviant, as was John Wayne Gacy (33 murders). All 49 known victims were boys and young men.

Parents, teach your children the signs of homosexual behavior and how to protect themselves if lured. I admire Russian President Vladimir Putin, who has signed laws protecting Russia's children from homosexual propaganda and has banned the adoption of children by queers! Amen for that!!! Where's Anita Bryant when we need her more than ever in 2015?

Ronald Marquez #fundie boston.com

Officers responding to a report of an exorcism on a young girl found her grandfather choking her and used stun guns to subdue the man, who later died, authorities said Sunday.

The 3-year-old girl and her mother, who was also in the room during the struggle between 49-year-old Ronald Marquez and officers, were hospitalized, police said. Their condition was unavailable.

The relative who called police said an exorcism had also been attempted Thursday.

"The purpose was to release demons from this very young child," said Sgt. Joel Tranter.

Officers arrived at the house Saturday and entered when they heard screaming coming from a bedroom, Tranter said.

A bed had been pushed up against the door; the officers pushed it open a few inches and saw Marquez choking his bloodied granddaughter, who was crying in pain and gasping, Tranter said.

A bloody, naked 19-year-old woman who police later determined to be Marquez's daughter and the girl's mother was in the room, chanting "something that was religious in nature," Tranter said.

The officers forced open the door enough for one to enter, leading to a struggle in which an officer used a stun gun on Marquez, Tranter said.

mdmathis6 #fundie freerepublic.com

The founding fathers recognized that an ethic born of “Religion and morality” (as Washington put it) ruling the hearts of the majority of Americans was the only “glue” that could keep a democratic REPUBLIC together. Hence the rule in NC stating that only believers in God could ever take office in that state.

The only real difference in the Revolutions of America and France is that France tried to side step questions of spiritual consensus, argueing instead for secular consensus of “liberty and fraternity” while America had an underlying Judeo Christian consensus underlying its founding priciples and ultimately its Constitution.

Apart from God, this nation is nothing and her government can not govern with-out resorting to naked raw force and soul darkening psycho-linguistic manipulations of the body politic.

So yes I believe atheists should not govern a free people other than to rule those folk given over to reprobation! Let the blind lead the blind but let the righteous govern; to the joy of all people. Do you think God cares one whit regarding democracy? He cares more about having a people with the image of his son burning and shining out amidst spiritual darkness through their hearts amd lives. God is King and he has promised to write ‘his constitution” in our inward parts!

“Locusts have no king, yet they march out in bands, 50’s and hundreds, laying waste” Proverbs. (they actually have a king...preborn instinct that causes them to act and consume in sync.....how much more would God do for his own people thru his Spirt? Can you hear Ezekiel now....”Rise up old bones and take on flesh, then breathe in the animating breath of LIFE from Almighty God?”)

Pray for an America that would have no dictator, or civil king but rather God ruling out of the collective heart of her peoples!

David Stephan, Calgary Wellness Expo #fundie calgaryherald.com

Sobeys drops support of wellness expo after father convicted in son's death scheduled to speak
David Stephan — convicted in connection with the death of his 19-month-old son Ezekiel— is scheduled to speak at next month's Calgary Wellness Expo.

He’s on a speaking tour preaching the benefits of natural health, and he’s coming back to Calgary.

David Stephan — convicted two years ago in connection with the death of his 19-month-old son, Ezekiel, in southeastern Alberta — is scheduled to speak at next month’s Calgary Wellness Expo, set for the Big Four building at Stampede Park March 9 to 11.

Titled “Achieving Brain & Thyroid Health — Rising to your Potential,” Stephan’s seminar promises information on how to improve mental health and promote hormone balance through nutrient supplementation.

It’s the same talk Stephan is giving this weekend at the Wellness Expo in Saskatoon.

The seminars are sponsored by Truehope Nutritional Support Inc., a nutritional supplement company founded by Stephan’s father.

Sobeys announced Sunday morning it was withdrawing its sponsorship of the Health and Wellness Expos of Canada.

In an emailed statement, a spokeswoman said the company couldn’t support the organizers’ decision to host Stephan as a speaker.

Some people took to Twitter to call on Sobeys to pull its support of the expo, given Stephan’s involvement.

Sobeys spokeswoman Cynthia Thompson says the company won’t be associated with any future Health and Wellness Expo events.

Sunday afternoon, expo sponsor Flaman Fitness followed suit in yanking their support.

Two years ago, Stephan and wife Collet were convicted in a Lethbridge court for failing to provide the necessaries of life for Ezekiel. He died of bacterial meningitis on March 13, 2012, after being rushed to Alberta Children’s Hospital in Calgary when the tot stopped breathing.

For weeks, Ezekiel’s condition was treated by his parents with natural remedies including hot peppers, garlic, ginger root, onions and horseradish.

The parents suspected Ezekiel had croup or the flu, despite warnings from a nurse and friend of the family that the child showed signs of suffering from meningitis, according to testimony heard at trial.

Too stiff for his car seat, the child was driven by his mother to a Lethbridge naturopathic clinic to pick up an echinacea treatment.

David was sentenced to four months in jail, while Collet was handed three months house arrest.

In November, Alberta’s top court upheld the convictions in a 2-1 split decision, entitling the couple to have their case heard by the Supreme Court of Canada — a date set tentatively for this May.

Requests to Stephan and Wellness Expo organizers for comment went unanswered Saturday.

Stephan’s talk this March isn’t the first time he’s been hired to speak at health fairs.

Earlier this month, he also talked about brain and thyroid health at the Calgary Health Show at the BMO Centre on Feb. 3.

Dr. Juliet Guichon, a University of Calgary assistant professor in the faculty of medicine who specializes in law and medical ethics, called the decision by health expos to book Stephan to speak at seminars irresponsible.

“David Stephan has been criminally convicted by a jury of his peers — he lost his trial and he lost his appeal,” she said.

“His child died because the father and mother gave alternative health remedies rather than taking his child to the doctor.

“Why would anyone want to listen to what he has to say about health and wellness, given the outcome?”

She said organizers of such events, at the very least, should ensure attendees are aware of all aspects of Stephan’s past — including his previous conviction.

“People who attend these shows ought to know,” she said.

“It would be appropriate to the organizers to include that publicly available information about him when they invite him to speak.”

David Chase Taylor #conspiracy sites.google.com

Unbeknownst to most of humanity, Earth has a second Moon which is covered mostly by water. Modern terms such as “Blue Moon” (i.e., the “Betrayer Moon”), “New Moon” and “North Star” (i.e., Pole Star) originally pertained to this second Moon which was new, blue, and directly north above the North Pole (i.e., Greenland). The notion that Earth has a second moon fits perfectly into the Counter-Earth theory proposed by philosopher Philolaus (c. 470-385 BC) who theorized that all objects in the universe revolve around an unseen "Central Fire", distinct from the Sun which also revolves around it. Because Earth’s second moon is mostly covered in water, it appears on fire when struck by the rays of the sun, especially after the sun is setting on the horizon. While Earth’s second Moon has no official name in the underworld, the Holy Bible, the allegorical and metaphorical history of the Roman Empire, refers to it as “Lucifer” as depicted in Isaiah 14:12 which states in part, “How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning!”. Consequently, Lucifer is defined by Strong’s Concordance as the “morning star”, the “light-bearer”, the “shining one,” and the “King of “Babylon”, the former capital of the Roman Empire. The notion that Lucifer and the Moon are indeed one is corroborated by Wikipedia which states that “As an adjective, the Latin word Lucifer meant ‘light-bringing’ and was applied to the moon”. “A Latin Dictionary” (1879) refers to Lucifer as “pars Lunae”, meaning “part of the Moon”, as well as the “fabled son of Aurora”, a direct reference to the Aurora Borealis (i.e., the Northern Lights). Aside from its Biblical connotations, veiled references to Earth’s second Moon are found throughout Etruscan, Greek, Hindu, Old Norse, Proto-Indo-European and Roman religion and mythology, as well in popular culture. Despite overwhelming evidence, the notion that Earth has a second Moon is sheer “lunacy”, a lunar-derived word which is defined as “insanity” or “madness”.

Second Moon in Popular Culture
Aside from the names and terms “Luck”, “Lucky” and “Lucy”, all titular tributes to “Lucifer”, numerous references to Earth’s second Moon are found within popular culture, including but are not limited to: “From the Earth to the Moon” (1865), a novel by Jules Verne which makes a reference to the “discovery” of second Moon by Frédéric Petit in 1846; “I Love Lucy” (1951-1957), a television show that is a titular tribute to Lucifer, the sky-walking second Moon of Earth; “The Wonderful Flight to the Mushroom Planet” (1954), a novel by Eleanor Cameron which is set on a tiny, habitable second moon called Basidium in an invisible orbit 50,000 miles (80,000 km) from Earth; “Stowaway to the Mushroom Planet” (1956), a novel by Eleanor Cameron which is set on a tiny, habitable second moon called Basidium in an invisible orbit 50,000 miles (80,000 km) from Earth; “Tom Swift on the Phantom Satellite” (1956), a novel by Tom Swift, Jr. which features a new moon entering Earth’s orbit at 50,000 miles (80,000 km) altitude; “Tom Swift and the Asteroid Pirates” (1963), a novel by Tom Swift, Jr. which features a second moon entitled “Nestria” or “Little Luna” which was originally an asteroid that moved into Earth’s orbit at 50,000 miles (80,000 km) altitude; “Dhalgren” (1975), a novel by Samuel R. Delany which features an Earth which mysteriously acquires a second moon entitled “George”. The cover of Delany’s book features a moon-like planet glowing like the sun; “Star Wars” (1977-2015), a saga which features the planet Tatooine that has two moons. The term “Tatooine” (T+T+N) is coincidentally consonantly the same as “Titan” (T+T+N), the water-based moon of Saturn which appears to be scientific cover for Earth’s second Moon. The scene featuring Luke Skywalker along with two moons in “A New Hope” (1977) remains one of the most famous scenes of the entire Star Wars saga. Luke Skywalker, which is the main character of the saga, is a titular tribute to Lucifer the sky-walking morning star; “The Silmarillion” (1977), a book by J. R. R. Tolkien which features Eärendil the Mariner, a fictional character of Middle-earth (i.e., Greenland), who was a great seafarer who, on his brow, carried the morning star (i.e., Lucifer) across the sky. “Eärendil” means 'Lover of the Sea”, an apparent reference to the oceans of Earth’s second Moon; and “1Q84” (2011), a novel by Haruki Murakami which features two visible moons, one of which is irregularly shaped and green in color.

Second Moon in Mythology
Because virtually all of the world’s respective religions are Greco-Roman in origin (e.g., Catholicism, Christianity, Hinduism, Islam, Judaism, Scientology, etc.), references to Earth’s second moon are found within most of their respective mythologies. As evidenced, all of the following gods and goddesses affiliated with the “Dawn” exhibit one of more characteristic pertaining to beauty, brightness, color, flying, light or water of some kind (e.g., dew, ocean, sea, spring, etc.). Since a beautiful colored moon or star covered in water is not visibly flying through the skies of the underworld, it must be deduced that the plethora of religious and mythological references are in fact in respect to an unseen object within Earth’s orbit. Consequently, said object must be responsible for the Aurora Borealis (i.e., the Northern Lights), a beautiful colored flying light which appears to be the refection of light off of water. Lastly, the term “dawn” (D+N) acronymically and/or consonantly equates to “Den” or “Day North” as the letter “W” is silent and routinely added only for accent. The term “Den” is a reference to Greenland, the third and final den (home) of the Roman Empire, while the term “Day North” is a reference to the 24/7 daylight found in the north. The never-ending daylight is possible due to Earth’s second moon which refracts the suns light one it has passed gone over the horizon.

Aurora Borealis
The radiance or light of Earth’s second Moon is known as the Aurora Borealis (i.e., the Northern Lights), an array of dancing lights in the sky as if the sun were rising or setting from an unusual direction. This phenomenon is only witnessed in northern regions of the world (e.g., Alaska, Canada, Greenland, Iceland, Norway, Russia, U.S. states which border Canada, etc.). To date, a feasible and believable scientific explanation for the phenomenon has not yet been rendered. Like the Moon of the underworld, Earth’s second Moon moves in tandem with the sun. Consequently, when the sun and the second Moon are aligned, the sun’s light is refracted off the watery surface of the Moon, producing the beautiful Aurora Borealis across the northern face of the Earth. The Northern Lights only occurs after the sun is near or has passed the northern horizon. In other words, it occurs during the evening and at night in Greenland. Coincidentally, an “aureola” or “aureole” is the radiance of luminous cloud which surrounds a figure in paintings and personages. The aureola appears to be indicative of the clouds which surround Earth’s water-covered moon while the halo is in respect to the light which it gives off.

Earth’s Halo
The Northern Lights of Earth’s second Moon are known as the Aurora Borealis which is often symbolized by a halo for it encircles the crest or the “Christ” of the Earth. This is why Jesus is often depicted with a halo around his head for he is symbolic of Greenland which is draped in the light of Earth’s second moon. Consequently, when Jesus is depicted on the Roman Cross, the term “INRI” appears above his head. The letters “INRI” acronymically equate to North Rome”, the location of said halo. The term "Halo" (H+L) acronymically equates to "Forever Lion", a reference to the "Line of Man" (i.e., the 13 Bloodlines of Rome) which live in Greenland. Because the Greco-Romans originated from Greece, a man with a halo is slaying a dragon in the flag of the Greek Sipahis (1431-1619), the flag of Athanasios Diakos (1821-1832), and the war flag of the Hellenic Army. The dragon or “drag on” is symbolic of the never-ending war that the Roman Empire has waged on the underworld since the discovery of Greenland.

The Firmament
According to Genesis in the Holy Bible, the allegorical and metaphorical history book of the Greco-Roman Empire, God created the firmament to separate the "waters above" the earth from those below. Therefore, the term firmament is apparently code word for Earth’s second moon which is covered by oceans. These oceans produce clouds which then descend upon the upper Earth (i.e., Greenland) in a dome-like mist form. This is evidently why depictions of angels in heaven (i.e., Greenland) are always shown to be living upon the clouds. Interestingly, the word "firmament" translates to “Raqia” (R+C/K) and “Raqiya” (R+C/K) in Biblical Hebrew which acronymically and/or consonantly equate to “Rock”, an apparent reference to Greenland, the rock of ages which is located directly underneath the firmament. The connotation of firmness conveyed by the Vulgate's “firmamentum” is consistent with that of “stereoma,” the Greek word used in the Septuagint. The term “Stereoma” (S+T+R+M) acronymically and/or consonantly equate to “State of Rome” which is coincidentally also located underneath the firmament. According to the “Greek Apocalypse of Baruch” (c. 130 AD), the firmament was a great dome-like structure which may be pierced by the gimlet-looking Tower of Babel. Evidently, the clouds from Earth’s second moon hover just a few miles above the Earth’s surface, hence the attempt to breach it prior to the invention of aircraft. The “Jewish Encyclopedia” (c. 1901) describes the firmament by stating that, “The Hebrews regarded the earth as a plain or a hill figured like a hemisphere, swimming on water. Over this is arched the solid vault of heaven.” The earth swimming on water is an apparent reference to Greenland which is an island surrounded by water, while the arched vault of heaven is an apparent reference to the cloud-like mist which encompasses it. The terms “mystical” and “mystery” were evidently derived from this persistent mist that emanates from Earth’s second moon. This notion was corroborated by John Calvin in 1554 who proposed that "firmament" be interpreted as clouds. According to Copernicus' heliocentric model, the firmament was thought to be completely stationary, corroborating other accounts that Earth’s second moon is fixated directly above the Earth. The Flammarion engraving (1888) which mysteriously appeared in Camille Flammarion’s book “L'atmosphère: météorologie populaire” (1888), meaning "The Atmosphere: Popular Meteorology", depicts a traveler who has arrived at the edge of a flat Earth, sticking his head through the firmament. This artwork further suggests that the firmament is not firm or solid per se, but rather a penetrable thick cloud-like mist. The firmament is also depicted as a solid dome that is arched over the earth in both Mesopotamian and Indo-European mythologies, namely creation myths. The Sumerian sky-god An was known to rule the primordial seas above the firmament-like "heavens" which were previously separated from the flat disc of the earth below (i.e., the underworld).

Firmament in the Holy Bible
Because the Firmament is located above the Roman Empire in Greenladn, there are 15 references to firmament in the Holy Bible, the allegorical and metaphorical history book of the Greco-Roman Empire. The term “Firmament” (F/P+R+M+M+T) acronymically and/or consonantly equates to “Fire Mount” or “Fire Mountain”, an apparent reference to Mt. Olympus in Greenland which Earth’s second moon hovers directly over. The number “15” is telling numerologically speaking for it equates to the letter “O” in the Roman-English alphabet, a term used to describe both “All” and “Nothing”. The letter “O” may also be symbolic of wonder (e.g., “oh”) as well as the dome-like mist from Earth’s second moon which encompasses upper Earth (i.e., Greenland).

1. Genesis 1:6: “And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.”

2. Genesis 1:7: “And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.”

3. Genesis 1:8: “And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.”

4. Genesis 1:14: “And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years.”

5. Genesis 1:15: “And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.”

6. Genesis 1:17: “And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth.”

7. Genesis 1:20: “And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.”

8. Psalm 19:1: “The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.”

9. Psalm 150:1: “Praise ye the Lord. Praise God in his sanctuary: praise him in the firmament of his power.”

10. Ezekiel 1:22: “And the likeness of the firmament upon the heads of the living creature was as the color of the terrible crystal, stretched forth over their heads above.”

11. Ezekiel 1:23: “And under the firmament were their wings straight, the one toward the other: every one had two, which covered on this side, and every one had two, which covered on that side, their bodies.”

12. Ezekiel 1:25: “And there was a voice from the firmament that was over their heads, when they stood, and had let down their wings.”

13. Ezekiel 1:26: “And above the firmament that was over their heads was the likeness of a throne, as the appearance of a sapphire stone: and upon the likeness of the throne was the likeness as the appearance of a man above upon it.”

14. Ezekiel 10:1: “Then I looked, and, behold, in the firmament that was above the head of the cherubims there appeared over them as it were a sapphire stone, as the appearance of the likeness of a throne.”

15. Daniel 12:3: “And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever.”

Second Moon in Holy Bible
Aside from the Firmament, the New Moon , the Pillar of Fire, the Pillar of Cloud, and the Morning Star, all of which are references to Earth’s second moon in the Holy Bible, the allegorical and metaphorical history of the Roman Empire, there are at least three other Biblical passages dealing with Earth’s second moon. Firstly, Joshua 10:12 states, “Then spake Joshua to the Lord in the day when the Lord delivered up the Amorites before the children of Israel, and he said in the sight of Israel, Sun, stand thou still upon Gibeon; and thou, Moon, in the valley of Ajalon.” The passage is an apparent reference to the sun’s refraction off of Earth’s second moon of water which makes it appear as if the sun is always present. The fact both the sun and the moon are referenced in the same verse is telling. Secondly, Joshua 10:13 states, “And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day”. Because Greenland and parts of northern Canada and Russia experience light from the sun via Earth’s second moon, the reference to a stationary sun and moon are confirmation of Earth’s second Moon, albeit in a de facto manner. In other words, the sun is always present because it is either directly shining or is being refracted via the ocean covered moon after it has set. Therefore, the light of the sun is always present via the moon which is stationary in heaven atop the Earth. Thirdly, Isaiah 14:12 states, “How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!”. The light of Lucifer (i.e., the “Morning Star”) falls from heaven down to the ground, an apparent reference the Aurora Borealis (i.e., the Northern Lights) which falls from heaven onto many nations (e.g., Canada, Russia, Iceland, Norway, U.S., etc.). Lastly, Isaiah 30:26 states, "Moreover the light of the moon shall be as the light of the sun, and the light of the sun shall be sevenfold, as the light of seven days, in the day that the Lord bindeth up the breach of his people, and healeth the stroke of their wound”. The notion that the moon could be as bright as the sun is only possible if the moon is directly reflecting the light of the sun, something only a mirror-like water-covered moon could accomplish. The sevenfold increase in the sun’s light is a reference to the refraction of the sun’s light off the ocean-covered moon which is subsequently projected out 360° via the Aurora Borealis.

Morning Star in Holy Bible
Because the Morning Star is found in Greenland, home of the Greco-Roman Empire, there are 3 references to “Morning Star” in the Holy Bible, the allegorical and metaphorical history book of the Greco-Roman Empire. The number “3” is telling numerologically speaking for it equates to Greenland, the third and final den (home) of the Roman Empire in Greenland.

1. Job 38:7: “When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?”

2. Revelation 2:28: “And I will give him the morning star.”

3. Revelation 22:16: “I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.”

New Moon in Holy Bible
Because the New Moon is found in Greenland, home of the Greco-Roman Empire, there are 21 references to “New Moon” in the Holy Bible, the allegorical and metaphorical history book of the Greco-Roman Empire. The number “21” is telling numerologically speaking for it equates to the letter “U” in the Roman-English alphabet, a term used to describe all those living outside of Utopia, a “fictional” island society in the Atlantic Ocean which Earth’s second moon resides over. Consequently, the term “New” (N) acronymically equates to “North” as the letter “W” is often silent and added only for accent. Therefore, “New Moon” equates to “North Moon”, the location of where it can be seen.

1. 1 Samuel 20:5: “And David said unto Jonathan, Behold, to morrow is the new moon, and I should not fail to sit with the king at meat: but let me go, that I may hide myself in the field unto the third day at even.”

2. 1 Samuel 20:18: “Then Jonathan said to David, To morrow is the new moon: and thou shalt be missed, because thy seat will be empty.”

3. 1 Samuel 20:24: “So David hid himself in the field: and when the new moon was come, the king sat him down to eat meat.”

4. 2 Kings 4:23: “And he said, Wherefore wilt thou go to him to day? it is neither new moon, nor sabbath. And she said, It shall be well.”

5. 1 Chronicles 23:31: “And to offer all burnt sacrifices unto the Lord in the sabbaths, in the new moons, and on the set feasts, by number, according to the order commanded unto them, continually before the Lord.”

6. 2 Chronicles 2:4: “Behold, I build an house to the name of the Lord my God, to dedicate it to him, and to burn before him sweet incense, and for the continual shewbread, and for the burnt offerings morning and evening, on the sabbaths, and on the new moons, and on the solemn feasts of the Lord our God. This is an ordinance for ever to Israel.”

7. 2 Chronicles 8:13: “Even after a certain rate every day, offering according to the commandment of Moses, on the sabbaths, and on the new moons, and on the solemn feasts, three times in the year, even in the feast of unleavened bread, and in the feast of weeks, and in the feast of tabernacles.”

8. 2 Chronicles 31:3: “He appointed also the king's portion of his substance for the burnt offerings, to wit, for the morning and evening burnt offerings, and the burnt offerings for the sabbaths, and for the new moons, and for the set feasts, as it is written in the law of the Lord.”

9. Ezra 3:5: “And afterward offered the continual burnt offering, both of the new moons, and of all the set feasts of the Lord that were consecrated, and of every one that willingly offered a freewill offering unto the Lord.”

10. Nehemiah 10:33: “For the shewbread, and for the continual meat offering, and for the continual burnt offering, of the sabbaths, of the new moons, for the set feasts, and for the holy things, and for the sin offerings to make an atonement for Israel, and for all the work of the house of our God.”

11. Psalm 81:3: “Blow up the trumpet in the new moon, in the time appointed, on our solemn feast day.”

12. Isaiah 1:13: “Bring no more vain oblations; incense is an abomination unto me; the new moons and sabbaths, the calling of assemblies, I cannot away with; it is iniquity, even the solemn meeting.”

13. Isaiah 1:14: “Your new moons and your appointed feasts my soul hateth: they are a trouble unto me; I am weary to bear them.”

14. Isaiah 66:23: “And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the Lord.

15. Ezekiel 45:17: “And it shall be the prince's part to give burnt offerings, and meat offerings, and drink offerings, in the feasts, and in the new moons, and in the sabbaths, in all solemnities of the house of Israel: he shall prepare the sin offering, and the meat offering, and the burnt offering, and the peace offerings, to make reconciliation for the house of Israel.”

16. Ezekiel 46:1: “Thus saith the Lord God; The gate of the inner court that looketh toward the east shall be shut the six working days; but on the sabbath it shall be opened, and in the day of the new moon it shall be opened.”

17. Ezekiel 46:3: “Likewise the people of the land shall worship at the door of this gate before the Lord in the sabbaths and in the new moons.”

18. Ezekiel 46:6: “And in the day of the new moon it shall be a young bullock without blemish, and six lambs, and a ram: they shall be without blemish.”

19. Hosea 2:11: “I will also cause all her mirth to cease, her feast days, her new moons, and her sabbaths, and all her solemn feasts.”

20. Amos 8:5: “Saying, When will the new moon be gone, that we may sell corn? and the sabbath, that we may set forth wheat, making the ephah small, and the shekel great, and falsifying the balances by deceit?”

21. Colossians 2:16: “Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days.”

Titan Moon of Saturn
Titan (i.e., “Saturn VI”) is reportedly the largest moon of Saturn. It is the only natural satellite known to have a dense atmosphere, and the only object other than Earth which exhibits evidence of stable bodies of surface liquid (i.e., water). Titan has a diameter roughly 50% larger than Earth’s known moon and has 80% more mass. Titan is allegedly composed of water ice and rocky material and has an atmosphere largely composed of nitrogen. Its climate reportedly includes wind and rain and has surface features similar to those of Earth, such as dunes, rivers, lakes and seas. Titan's methane cycle is admittedly “viewed as an analog to Earth's water cycle, although at a much lower temperature." Although NASA has put a man on the moon (allegedly) and landed on Mars (allegedly), there are mysteriously no clear and concise photographs of Titan in existence. Despite the deployment of the Hubble Telescope and space observations located around the word, no solid evidence of this moon by way of images can be found. Therefore, it appears that Titan is scientific cover for Earth’s second Moon which is located above the Earth in Greenland. After all, Titan exhibits the ocean-covered surface which Earth’s second moon purports to have. Since Saturn is a waterless planet, it’s far more likely that a water-based moon would belong to Earth. Lastly, the logo of the Tennessee Titans football team appears to depict Titan (i.e., Earth second moon). Although mostly blue in color, there are indeed red highlights within the logo which are indicative of the Aurora Borealis (i.e., the Northern Lights).

Aphrodite
Aphrodite is the goddess of the dawn in Greek mythology who is etymologized as "she who shines from the foam [ocean]". Her name was derived from “aphros”, meaning "sea foam", and from “deato”, meaning "to shine" or "she who shines from the foam [ocean]". In Hesiod's “Theogony”, Aphrodite arose from the sea foam after Cronus cut off Uranus's genitals and threw them into the sea, hence her name meaning "foam-arisen". According to legend, Aphrodite then floated ashore via a scallop shell. References to foam are evidently in respect to the watery mist which falls upon Greenland from Earth’s second moon which is covered by oceans of water. Consequently, the epithet “Aphrodite Acidalia” was occasionally added to Aphrodite’s name, after the spring she used for bathing. Aphrodite is also associated with and depicted with the sea, dolphins, swans, clams, scallop shells, and pearls, all of which pertain to water. Although Aphrodite is married, she is one of the few gods in the Greek Pantheon who is frequently unfaithful to her husband. That is because her Northern Lights are shed onto the underworld, in essence cheating on Greenland, her husband. According to myth, due to Aphrodite's immense beauty, Zeus feared that the other gods would become violent with each other in their quest to possess her. This narrative is an apparent reference to the non-stop war the Roman Empire has waged on humanity in order to keep Greenland as well as Aphrodite (i.e., Earth’s second moon) hidden. Consequently, Aphrodite is also known to have extramarital relations with Ares, the Greco-Roman god of war.

Eos
Eos is the Titaness goddess the dawn in Greek mythology who is almost always described with rosy fingers or rosy forearms as she opened the gates of heaven for the sun to rise. Eos is the daughter of Hyperion and Theia and sister of Helios (the sun) and Selene (the moon), "who shine upon all that are on earth and upon the deathless gods who live in the wide heaven.” The reference to “wide heaven” appears to be a veiled reference to the wide continent of Greenland, home to the immortal Greco-Romans. Hesiod states in “Theogony”, “And after these Erigeneia ["Early-born"] bore the star Eosphoros (i.e., "Dawn-bringer"), and the gleaming stars with which heaven is crowned”. This reference is telling for Greenland is considered the Crown of the Earth. Eos is also seen as the mother of all the stars and planets, for her tears are considered to have created the morning dew, personified by Ersa or Herse. Eos’s affiliation with dew is imperative to note because Earth’s second moon is covered by oceans which gave life to the Earth, hence the reference to motherhood. Eos is also known as the bringer of light, the “One Above”, “Who Travels High Above the Earth” and “The Divine”, all characteristics of Earth’s second moon. The Greek poet Quintus Smyrnaeus depicted her radiant horses of Lampus and Phaëton which drew her chariot, climbing the arc of heaven and scattering sparks of fire or the Aurora Borealis (i.e., the Northern Lights). Phaeton is coincidentally also the name of a mythical planet which was allegedly situated between the orbits of Mars and Jupiter whose destruction allegedly led to the formation of the asteroid belt. Eos is also the daughter of Theia. Coincidentally, Theia is also the name of a Mars-sized planet believed to have collided with the Earth roughly 4.5 billion years ago, creating the Moon of the underworld. In the epic Greek poem the “Odyssey”, Eos’ horses are named “Daybright” and “Firebright” and apparent references to the respective brightness of Earth’s second moon. During the day the moon is “Daybright” (blue) while at night the moon is “Firebright” (red and orange). The change in color is evidently due to the light of the sun which is refracted off the moons watery surface when the sun on or past the horizon (i.e., sunset).

Hausos
Hausos is the goddess of the dawn in Proto-Indo-European religion who is personified as a beautiful young woman. The name “h2ews?s” is derived from a root “h2wes” and “au?es” which translates to "shine" or the "the shining one". Hausos is also the goddess of spring who is liberated from prison within the mythology of the Indo-European New Year. Her abduction, imprisonment and subsequent liberation by a heroic dragon-slaying god is a central myth in Indo-European religion that is reflected in numerous traditions. The notion that Hausos is in prison likely stems from the fact that Earth’s second moon is stationary above the Earth. The reference to a dragon slaying god is an apparent reference to G.O.D. (i.e., Greenland of Denmark) who slays the dragon or “drag on” which is symbolic of the never-ending war that the Roman Empire has waged on the underworld since the discovery of Greenland and Earth’s second moon.

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Tommy Clayton #fundie gty.org

Nearly fifty years ago, the British agnostic Bertrand Russell penned these words: “There is one very serious defect to my mind in Christ’s moral character, and that is that He believed in hell. I do not myself feel that any person who is really profoundly humane can believe in everlasting punishment” (Bertrand Russell, Why I Am Not a Christian).

Philosopher John Hick echoed those sentiments when he called hell “a perversion of the Christian gospel.” He believed the doctrine of hell attributed to God “an unappeasable vindictiveness and insatiable cruelty.”

We expect statements like that from fallen, unregenerate minds. But what do we do when we hear similar things from prominent, professing evangelical writers? “How can Christians possibly project a deity of such cruelty and vindictiveness whose ways include inflicting everlasting torture upon his creatures, however sinful they may have been? Surely a God who would do such a thing is more nearly like Satan than like God . . .” (Clark H. Pinnock, “The Destruction of the Finally Impenitent”).

It’s become popular today for professing evangelicals to join the ranks of Pinnock, atheists, and agnostics in protesting the doctrine of hell. They are preaching sermons, writing articles, and publishing books, and some are wandering into the comment threads of Christian blogs. Here’s a small sampling from Grace To You’s blog in our recent series on hell:

“What kind of God torments people for all eternity?”
“. . . Satan loves the false doctrine of eternal torment”
“[eternal torment is] cruel and unusual punishment”
“[eternal torment] makes God out to be a cruel tyrant,” “absolutely cruel and malevolent”
“How can you in your right minds even consider this to be justice?”
If the doctrine of hell as eternal, conscious torment hadn’t been the position of the Christian church for two millennia, it might be easy to think we’re seriously out of step—a bunch of mindless minions who worship a monster-god! But when you examine the biblical evidence, without an agenda, you’ll find we sound a lot like Jesus and the apostles.

So, how could someone who claims to be faithful to Scripture ridicule the idea of eternal punishment? What is at the heart of their rejection of a never-ending hell? It’s simple, really—they minimize the seriousness of human sin and guilt, and they distort the perfection of divine justice. That’s the crime of Protestant Liberalism and every false religion.

Minimizing the Sinfulness of Sin

To one degree or another, we’re all guilty of minimizing sin. I remember the first time I read the account of Lot’s wife. God turned her into a pillar of salt as she was leaving Sodom. Her crime? A backward glance (Genesis 19:26). Reading that story as an unbeliever provoked me to ask the question: “Was that really an offense worthy of death—turning your neck to take one final look at your home?” As I explored more of the Bible, other accounts of God’s judgment appeared equally capricious and severe to me.

Nadab and Abihu deviated from the priestly procedures. God consumed them with fire (Leviticus 10:1-2).
One man gathered wood on the Sabbath. God commanded Moses to stone him (Numbers 15:35).
Achan took a few forbidden items from the spoils of Jericho. God commanded Joshua to stone and then burn Achan along with his entire family (Joshua 7:24-25).
Uzzah kept the ark of God from falling into the mud by reaching out his hand and taking hold of it. God immediately struck him dead (2 Samuel 6:6-7).
Ananias and Sapphira lied to the apostles. God killed them both in front of the entire church. (Acts 5:1-10).
We often struggle to understand how something seemingly so trivial could enact such a severe judgment. Our flesh wants to cry out in protest, “That’s not fair!” But responses like that reveal our failure to grasp the depth of sin. We see only actions—a devoted father gathering firewood to keep his family warm; a zealous Israelite anxious to keep the Ark of God off the ground—but God sees things differently, more clearly, than we do. He sees our sin as insurrection, rebellion against His holiness (Exodus 31:14; Numbers 4:15). What’s more, He sees the hidden motives and intentions at the core of our actions (Matthew 5:28; Hebrews 4:12).

One of the most basic tenets of justice is that the punishment must fit the crime. So, if the ultimate punishment for those who die without Christ is hell, then what is the crime? What do men do to merit the eternal sentence of hell? Put plainly, they sin.

You may think that’s a small thing, but the way John MacArthur explains sin, it puts it in its proper perspective. Essentially, sin is “an act of treason against the Sovereign lawgiver and judge of the universe.” The Bible describes our sin as “rebellion,” “ungodliness,” “lawlessness,” “wickedness,” and an “abomination” (Leviticus 26:27; Isaiah 32:6; 1 John 3:4; Ezekiel 18:27; Proverbs 15:9). Sinners then, are traitors, refusing to love, thank, serve, and obey the God who gave them life, breath, and every good thing.

Sinners spurn God’s love, despise His sovereignty, mock His justice, and view His commands with contempt. They are thieves and murderers, stealing God’s glory and assaulting His holiness. In fact, as Martin Luther once remarked, if sinners had their way, they would dethrone and murder God, which is exactly what they did at Calvary (Acts 2:23). Viewed through the lens of Scripture, sin appears exceedingly sinful (Romans 7:13).

I find it ironic that those who protest the idea of eternal, conscious torment deride the doctrine with words like, “cruel,” “morally revolting,” “monstrous,” and “repugnant.” Why don’t they employ the same terms of outrage to describe sin? Simple: they fail to see as God sees. God finds our sin “cruel,” “morally revolting,” “monstrous,” and “repugnant,” and He’s absolutely right. If we can’t see our sin as God sees it, it stands to reason that we don’t see the just judgment of hell like He sees it either. We’re just going to have to trust Him.

Divine Justice

People who reject the doctrine of eternal hell also stumble over the justice of God. It seems unjust of God to cast someone into a lake of eternal fire for thirty years of sin. Is sin really that bad?

Yes, it is. In fact, you readily accept that there are escalating levels in the seriousness of offenses. For example, if you punch your neighbor, he may punch you back, slash your tires, or even report you to the police. If you assault your boss, he’ll fire you. If you strike a policeman, you’re in danger of getting tased, pepper-sprayed (or worse), and you’re definitely going to jail. Take it up a notch: if you even attempt to assault the President of the United States, you’re going to prison for a long, long time. And if you try those shenanigans with any other head of state, you’ll probably be executed.

Clearly, we live by an established principle—the seriousness of a crime is measured not only by its inherent nature, but also by the one offended. Furthermore, we readily accept the escalation of punishment, based on the status and position of the one offended. If that makes sense on a human level, why are we tempted to ignore the status and position of God? If we live by that principle on a horizontal level, why not on a vertical level?

Our sins have offended an infinitely glorious and holy Being, and punishment must correspond to that offense. God will by no means acquit the wicked (Exodus 34:6-7). He will give the unbeliever exactly what he deserves. Isaiah said “Woe to the wicked! It will go badly with him, for what he deserves will be done to him” (Isaiah 3:11). God warned the children of Israel: “If you do not obey Me, but act with hostility against Me, then I will act with wrathful hostility against you, and I, even I, will punish you seven times for your sins” (Leviticus 26:27-28).

The righteous Judge of all the earth will one day rise up and call every creature into account (Genesis 18:25; Hebrews 9:27; 1 Peter 4:5). He will open the books and mete out a just sentence for every sinful thought, word, and deed (Romans 2:5; Revelation 20:13).

We’ve all assaulted God (Romans 3:23), and we all deserve hell. Reject Christ, and hell is exactly what you’ll get. God will rise up in judgment and cast all unbelievers into the lake of fire (Revelation 20:14), and all creation will praise His justice. To accuse God of injustice for sentencing sinners to hell is the height of arrogance and audacity.

Yes, God’s judgment is unbearable, but it is never unjust (Genesis 4:13). And that is why “it is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God” (Hebrews 10:31).

Followers of Rabbi Shmuel Auerbach #fundie failedmessiah.typepad.com

In more haredi war news, the Maayanei Hayeshua Medical Center in the haredi city of Bnei Brak has been sharply criticized by Auerbach’s faction, as well, after some haredi yeshiva students began volunteering to help the medical staff. Auerbach's faction complained that this volunteering would cause the haredi yeshiva students to neglect their yeshiva studies, and therefore it should be stopped immediately.

Hospital officials reportedly responded that before asking the students to volunteer, they had asked rabbis who ruled that it was permissible because it is taking part in as saving lives, and is therefore a mitzvah.

Auerbach’s faction, however, disagrees.

Almost no haredim serve in the IDF and the minuscule number said to be serving in Gaza are a only a tiny percentage of what the number should be proportionate to the haredi population of Israel.

Haredi rabbinic leaders from all factions have ascribed Israel’s relative safety from thousands of Hamas rockets and missiles to various magic formulations based on God’s protection of the Land of Israel and the Jewish people, but have refused to acknowledge or thank the IDF, IDF soldiers, the Iron Dome missile defense system, the scientists who developed it and who help run it, or the US, which paid for it.

“Everything is really all from God,” one haredi rabbi recently said, going on to say that putting any trust in the Iron Dome or even praising it was a form of “idol worship.”

Chick Publications #fundie chick.com

Are You an Extremist?

Issue Date: July/August 2016
“The decades old trend, that Christianity is irrelevant, is increasingly giving way to the notion that Christianity is bad for society,” declares the Christian pollster Barna Group.

As suicide bombers target airports and subways, “religious extremism” is increasingly blamed. Governments struggle to maintain a balance of freedom for all beliefs, but it is obvious to the public that religious belief is the motivation behind the jihadists. After the Brussels bombing the pope asked for prayer for the terrorists who were “taken in by cruel fundamentalism.” Islam is okay, it’s just those “extreme fundamentalists.”

Unfortunately, as the general public becomes more non-religious, Bible believers get painted with the same brush. There is rising concern about strange people who go to church instead of brunch on Sunday, who read an old book of legends about a mythical being who rose from the dead, and who question evolution. The last straw is when these weirdos engage in “proselyting,” and try to convert your children. These “extremists” need to be watched.

Satan has always tried to push the gospel into the margins. As usual, the change in the meanings of words is a tip-off to where it is going. Over the past 50 years, “fundamentalist” has gone from someone who is admired for holding fast to the fundamental doctrines of scripture, to synonymous with Muslim “extremists” who act out the “fundamental” doctrines of the Qur’an.

Adding to the confusion is the pope’s statement that Christians and Muslims both worship the same God. This lie is also held by many western government leaders. Even former President George W. Bush stated this right after 9/11.

But when the heart is unredeemed, liberty becomes freedom to sin. Then, Satan’s false religions become tools for death and destruction —his ultimate goal. Then Satan can sell the idea that all religions are bad, including biblical Christianity.

Increasingly, we who were known as strange “fundamentalists,” are lumped together with more suspicious “extremists” on the way to becoming feared “radicals.” What was once mainstream biblical views on hell, sodomy, and marriage are now considered antiquated Neanderthal concepts.

So, what’s a soul winner to do? The Great Commission doesn’t give us room to run and hide. More and more we are ambassadors from a foreign Kingdom, on assignment to this alien world that is under Satan’s heel. We must keep up our witness of the joys and benefits of our Kingdom —His love and sacrifice for lost sinners.

When we see ourselves as the sower in the parable, we know that not all gospel seed will sprout. We must spread generously, however, for there to be a maximum harvest. In the hustle and bustle of living, there is rarely time for discussion about the Kingdom. But it only takes a few seconds to hand someone a tract containing the seed of the gospel. When we do, then the Spirit has something to water, and God gives the increase.

Satan’s “extremists” bring death and destruction. We must be winsome “extremists” graciously inviting the bewildered to consider our Kingdom and our King whose name is true Love.

But we are under the same instruction as Ezekiel in chapter 3:18. We will be held accountable if we neglect to warn the sinner.

Hitoko search #fundie forums.worldofwarcraft.com

All this hysteria is about is the leftist SP Anti Christians pushing their doomsday "OMG they gonna force teh Godzz down my throat" crap.

Dont worry lefties...your control over the youths teaching in this country is firm for now....you have pretty much removed all mention of God from the halls of learning and replaced it with the "We were sh!t on a log and the sun hatched us" THEORY...

Strange though...you all have had power in this area for what 40-50 years?....and yet polls show that over 80% of Americans proclaim to believe in God....http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/godpoll.asp

Just proves my point that the left doesnt know what to do with power when they get it...

Sandwindsor #fundie premierchristianity.com

(=Regarding Sodom=)

TS (unami): Hetero men who RAPE other men as a show of force and dominance does not mean they are gay! Read some history about how conquering armies did this to humiliate and subjugate their defeated foes. Not even close to a gay relationship -- especially since it was done by HETERO men.

Samdwindsor: They wanted to have sex with them before forcing their homosexuality on the menl

TS (Unami): No no no.
The men outside Lot's door were ALL THE MEN OF THE CITY as the scripture says. ALL OF THE MEN.
This was attempted RAPE as a form of dominance and humiliation by HETEROsexual men toward the visitors!

Sandwindsor: You have had Ezekiel explained to you several times TS. The angels did not bring any homosexuals out of Sodom and Gomorrah. Read the scripture and you will see the obvious reference to homosexuality.

TS (inami): You have had Ezekiel explained to you multiple times, and yet you continue to block the Truth. The sins of Sodom listed do not even mention being gay as a one of them.
You forget that it was HETEROsexual men who were trying to RAPE the visitors as a sign of dominance and humiliation, a despicable practice done by ALL THE MEN OF THE CITY as the scripture says.
You seriously need to read the Bible!

Sandwindsor: Learn your Bible TS. S&G's sins are sexual. This has been explained to you several times.

Jah Truth #fundie #conspiracy #crackpot jahtruth.net

The word British is Hebrew and it means "Covenant Man" or the "People of The Covenant", as it does also in the Welsh language.

Elizabeth Mountbatten, also known by the aliases Elizabeth Windsor and Elizabeth the Second, who has never officially been crowned, because she was crowned sitting upon a fake Stone of Destiny, is, like all of her predecessors, from the royal line of king David of Israel and the British Throne is the Throne of David that is to be inherited by Christ, during the Second-Coming, very soon according to Nostradamus.

Nostradamus Quatrain 10,72

The year 1999 seven (sept) month (July or Sept-ember)
From heaven will come a great King of Terror/Alarm/Warning
(Prophet - Elijah - see the Old Testament Book of Malachi chapter 4)
He will bring back to life the Great King of Israel (Christ)
Before (warning) after war (Armageddon) reigns in good (God's) time - (the Seventh i.e. the Sabbath Millennium - the third millennium A.D.).

The British people, who are Israelites, under The Covenant, have been betrayed; impoverished and oppressed by the monarchy through-out its long and evil existence, because the people themselves have not kept The Covenant, that they swore at Sinai to keep for ever.

Under that Covenant the monarch is prohibited from using their position for personal material gain of any kind and from making up their own laws and taxes and economic policies; either themselves or their politicians. To prove this FACT, I will quote you the relevant clauses of The Covenant (contract):-
[…]
Thousands of British people are homeless; some reduced to living in cardboard-boxes and shop-doorways; whilst the queen, who is head of the christian church and also the richest woman on Planet Earth; not only knows about it, but sees it and allows it to continue. Christ says that ALL rich people will burn in Hell-Fire (Luke 16:19-31; Matthew 19:24). How then is it possible; if the Church of England serves Christ; for the richest woman on Earth to be the head / leader of the Faith that says rich people are evil and will burn in Hell-Fire, and that he/she who would be the leader must be the servant of all (Matthew 20:25-28; 23:11-12)? It is totally illogical!!! The church and monarchy obviously do not serve Christ; they serve mammon (Satan and his materialism). "Know a tree by the fruit it bears - Matthew 7:16-21, by their fruits will you know whether they be good or evil."

If just Elizabeth Mountbatten's wealth was redistributed back to the people, not counting all the others who have flourished under her and her predecessors' laws, there would be something like £15,000 for every man; woman and child in Britain. An average family of four would be roughly £60,000 better off. If we include all the other parasites as well, that figure would be at least doubled. How many people having thousands of pounds would be out stealing, or living in cardboard boxes?

God prohibited the British and all who love Him from serving lords (baalim) and told the people there is only one Lord and to serve only Him.

Judges 2:11 And the children of Israel (the British) did evil in the sight of the "I AM", and served lords (baalim):
2:12 And they forsook the "I AM" God of their fathers, which brought them out of the land of Egypt (slavery under man-made laws), and followed other gods, of the gods of the people that [were] round about them, and bowed themselves unto them (including lords), and provoked the "I AM" to anger.

There are at least 1200 members of the British "House of Lords", including the heads of the churches, who help to govern over and keep the British people down and poor. Need I say more?

God is punishing the British monarchy and little by little bringing it down and showing its and its politicians' evil in the eyes of the people and overturning it for the last time, as God prophesied through Ezekiel:-

Ezekiel 21:27 I will overturn, overturn, overturn, it (the Throne of David): and it shall be no [more], [overturned] UNTIL he come whose Right it is; and I will give it [him - Shiloh/Christ (Genesis 49 v 10)].

When Christ sits upon the Stone of Destiny, as prophesied through Ezekiel and is inaugurated as the King of all of the British people and of kings, the British Davidic monarchy will be finished; The Covenant reinstated and the wealth redistributed. Amen - JAH.

Jim #sexist #psycho blog.jim.com

(Title: Women like sexual coercion)

Their resistance is merely a shit test, to separate the strong from the weak.

What they hate, hate, hate hate hate, hate with a hatred hotter than a thousand suns, is that some guy whom they had sex with turns out to be substantially less alpha than they thought.

You doubt me? Reflect on the current Hollywood drama. Everyone has always known about the casting couch but in actual practice women acted as if being sexually exploited by rich, famous, and powerful men was a fringe benefit, rather than an occupational hazard – until the advance of feminism turned previously arrogant and entitled Hollywood moguls into weak and timid betas using wealth, fame and power as a weak crutch.


8dayruddyman #fundie godlikeproductions.com

A negative according to the Church of Ephesus in the 7 Churches of Revelation is interpreted as YAHqob’s name given to YAHsef’s children, Manasseh & Ephraim- YAHshurun (not Israel- Isis Ra El). Progeny of Adam before flood & Shem after the flood

Ephesus – Desirable: Desired by Satan- XES (666). A- Adam not touched by Satan in the Garden

1) Can’t stand those that are evil. (Canaanites- Gog)
2) Didn’t believe the false apostles Paul, Mark and Luke (Indians hard to Christianize)
3) Had endurance because my name YaHWeH (not Jehovah- Jesus XES)
4) Left first Love (animals)- Adam named them before ha Wah (Eve) was created Genesis 2:19
5) Do first works = Provision of Food first page of Bible. Also Genesis 3:18,19
6) YAHshuWAH commends them for hating the deeds of the Nike Laoitans (Evangelists of Zeus XES = 666). The Cherokee would rather have lived on reservations. White man speak with serpent tongue (Gog)
7) Overcomers of longsuffering Adam will eat from the Tree of Life in YHWH’s garden

1, To the angel of the assembly in Ephesus write! Thus says the one holding the seven stars in his right hand, the one walking in the midst of the seven lamp stands golden. 2, I know your works, and your toil, and your endurance, and that you are not able to bear evil ones; and you tested the ones calling themselves apostles, and are not, and found them liars; 3, and you bore, and endurance have, because of my name, and you tired not. 4, But I have against you, that the love of yours, the first, you have left. 5, Remember then from what place you have fallen, and repent, and the first works do! But if not, I come to you quickly, and I will move your lamp stand from out of its place, unless you should repent. 6, But this you have, that you detest the works of the Nicolaitans, which I also detest. 7, The one having an ear, hear what the spirit says to the assemblies! To the one overcoming, I will give to him to eat from the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of my God.

What happened to the House of YAHqob’s namesake historically?

Here's the connection: When the Giant White Assyrians (Aryans) took the House of YAHqob's namesake (YAHshurun- not Israel) out of the Promised Land, where did they go? Why did Hadrian and Antonine build guarded walls across the border of Scotland and England from sea to sea? The Picts known as Baa-Barians to the Romans were told they could assimilate into our Roman Society on the English side if not don't come back into Europe. The Roman’s pushed them out of Europe and into North America. A land never before inhabited (2Esdras 13:39-48). Scotland is the only country in Europe that did not expel the Jews and mentions their connection with lost tribes in the Scottish Declaration of Arbroath. James Adair (buried in NC) wrote a book published in London in 1875 called “The History of the American Indians” in which Adair makes 23 different arguments on why the American Indians could have never been anyone but the lost tribes of YAHqob's namesake. The Apocryphal book of Esdras (Ezra) says they were taken to a land never before inhabited by man. YHWH said he was going to raise his Messiah up through the Assyrian Cedar of Lebanon (fruitless tree). The white man on the Shroud is clearly fulfilling (Ezekiel 31). YAHqob's namesake blended with Satan's seed. Again in North America; (Manifest Destiny) get on the reservation or assimilate. YHWH will take away any bias based on DNA at judgment and that is why even his first born priests the AB-'s are born into bodies with Satan's DNA. When the B- Jews fled Europe across to North America this provided the opportunity for YAHqob & YAHudah's namesakes to be blended fulfilling the Prophecy of Ashkenaz, Japheth's grandson living in tents of Shem.

Each of the blood types has generous clues as to who they Biblically are. It’s coded if you know the Bible 7 Churches of Revelation can be easily understood. Here are the A’s:

The A-‘s (1st created Thunder) are reminded about their first Love in Revelation 2:4 and that these offspring of Adam have left their original love. Adam before ha Wah (Eve) was made as his help meet had all the beasts of the field and birds brought to him in order that he should name them. These were Adam’s first Love even before Eve was created (Gen. 2:18-20).

The A-‘s of Ephesus are urged to remember from where they fell though the EssiYAH just told them and correct the matter before their placement on the menorah is moved out of its place on the right and moved to the left side. You can’t say you love these animals if you eat them. Loving to eat them is a sin for those who are provided bread and fruit till the day they return to dust (Gen. 3:18,19). These were sheep, cows and chickens to name a few.

When YAHshuWAH tells that them they persevered because of his name they would have had to have known it. Remember YAHqob gave that name to the Northern Tribes lead by YAHsef’s 2 sons Manasseh and Ephraim. The House of YAHshurun (not Isis Ra El) eventually settled in North America. What did the Native American’s call God? Not Jehovah and not Jesus. They called God YaHWeH proving they knew the Tetragrammatons’ of God’s name. This is why they were very hard to evangelize by Zeus’ (XES) Lay Evangelists, the Nike-Laotians.

I would like to point out when I received my blood type testing kit from Dr. Adamo’s Eat right for your blood type website it arrived with a pamphlet. According to this pamphlet there was not a single blood type B amongst the Native Americans, proving the awesome power of YAHshuWAH to separate the House of YAHudah Betas from the House of YAHshurun Alphas. Science knows this that’s why they have already given convenient accurate blood types ABO labels.

Now the clues for the A+’s are similar. They had a Name that was alive but now they’re dead putting them in the same family with the A-‘s. They are urged to remember where they receive and heard. This is a reference to Exodus reminding them about the lesson of the Quails in which the flesh eaters all died from murmuring about having to eat manna (Angel’s bread) for 49 years in the wilderness.

It also points to the Generation Curse of the first commandment as to being in danger of having their name blotted out from the Book of Life. Only a few did not spot their garments. You’ve heard the cliché your body is a Temple. YAHshuWAH after his resurrection stopped the slaughtering of innocent animals to atone for another’s sins. You’ve heard you are what you eat. If that reap sow concept is true then we can see why A+’s have animal DNA to overcome.

Alex De Koker and Michael Erasmus #fundie gaystarnews.com

Three ‘gay and effeminate’ teens have died after being starved, tortured and killed at a camp that promised to turn them into 'men'.

A picture of Raymond Buys, 15, taken in April 2011 showed a skeletal, emaciated figure fighting for his life.

Just 10 weeks before, the teen’s parents signed him up to the Echo Wild Game Rangers training course in South Africa in perfect health.

In hospital, Buys was severely malnourished, dehydrated, his arm was broken in two places and there were burns and wounds all over his body. He lay in intensive care for four weeks until he died.

And now, the course ‘general’ Alex De Koker, 49, and employee Michael Erasmus, 20, are on trial for charges of murder, child abuse and neglect, along with two cases of assault with intent to do grievous bodily harm in relation to Buys' death.

The teen’s death is alleged to have been the third among the Afrikaans children who attended the R22,000 ($2,400, €1,900) courses, which have been advertized since 2006.

‘I sent my son on this course to make him a better man, to give him a better future,’ Buys’ mother told The Daily Telegraph. ‘I trusted Alex De Koker with his life.’

Last week, the Vereeniging District Court heard the testimony of a boy who had shared a tent with Buys, the Daily Maverick reports.

Gerhard Oostuizen, 19, claims Buys was chained to his bed every night, was refused permission to visit the toilet and on one occasion was forced to eat his own faeces. He also said he would be beaten with planks, hosepipes and sticks when he failed to carry out manual labor tasks. Oostuizen alleged further he saw De Koker tied Buys to a chair naked with his head covered in a pillowcase, and would electrocute him with a stun gun.

Gender activist Melanie Nathan has said the three young men were all perceived as ‘gay and clearly effeminate’. In reference to ‘gay conversion camps’, Nathan writes: ‘With a little bit of digging [into the story], the gay reparative undertones start to emerge.’ Eric Calitz, 18, and Nicolaas Van Der Walt, 19, had both died after being enrolled at the Echo Wild Game Rangers camp four years earlier. When Calitz requested to leave, De Koker reportedly told him he ‘wasn’t a moffie [gay] and he would make a man out of him’. Calitz’s family was informed of his death via text message, saying he had died of a heart attack.

Afterwards, doctors said the cause of death was from a seizure, dehydration and found bleeding from the brain.

Van Der Walt was also claimed to have died from a heart attack, but doctors said he had appeared to have been choked with a seatbelt.

In 2009, De Koker was handed a suspended sentence over Calitz but escaped charges for the death of Van Der Walt, and the camp was allowed to continue.

Both De Koker and Erasmus have pleaded not guilty to the charges. The case continues.

Ryan Messano #sexist #wingnut amazon.com

(Background: Ryan was reviewing Lori Alexander’s book “Biblical Womanhood: A Study Guide”, and I (Suzanne) responded to him. What follows is our exchange.)

Ryan Messano: Having read Lori Alexander's wonderful blog, 'The Transformed Wife' for the past 2 years, it is apparent that she has the principals that virtuous women had a century ago, that made America the prosperous and flourishing nation she became.

Reading her blog is an amazing experience, in seeing the woman that Solomon commended so highly in Proverbs 31.

We are in a stubborn and rebellious society, where Killer Angels, like Margaret Sanger, encourage younger women to be whores, to have sex outside of marriage, to travel, to go to college, to be prostitutes, star in filthy pornography movies, and to get jobs, at the expense of getting married young, and learning to love a husband and children, and care for a home.

Having been raised in a home by a loving and devoted mother, who had 18 children, of whom I was the eldest, and having been given fond and loving memories of a beautiful childhood, it fills my heart with peace and joy to see the precepts that make the loving families, such as the one I was raised in, taught by a Godly woman such as Lori.

May all young women listen to and heed her words, may the men of America return to the honor, wisdom, and virtue we once knew, and may we have a new birth of freedom and virtue, so that liberty's flame may never perish in the United States of America. Without virtuous men and women, liberty must surely be extinguished, and we must all inevitably become slaves.

Suzanne Titkemeyer: Interesting considering you said on Lori Alexander's chat room that you'd not ordered or read the book. Yet here you are writing a review for this book you never ordered or read. Lying is a sin.

Ryan Messano: Wat a hateful liar you are. I never said any such thing, and any one who wants to verify can go to Lori's comments. Further, the book has arrived today, and I'll be reading it. It likely will vary little from the outstanding blogs Lori has written over the last 2 years, which use the same time-honored principles, and apply them in fresh, dazzling, and new ways constantly.

Hopefully you escape from the bondage of your mental slavery.

Suzanne Titkemeyer: Dear Ryan. I have a screen cap of you as "Montesqueue" stating that you didn't read the book but you posted a review. If you click on that particular name it brings one to website for Mesano News, your name. Clearly this is you no matter what you say. Also, anyone Googling you will see you have been hauled out of government meetings screaming homophobic slurs. Repeatedly. Another fake Christian that does not follow the Christ of the Bible. Why would anyone with a functioning brain pay any attention to your words?

Ryan Messano: Dear Suzanne,

Please learn to spell. It's Montesquieu. You are very lazy. The spell check red-lined under your misspelling, suggesting it was misspelled, which it was, and you neglected to check it still. The gist of the study Guide and Lori's posts are the same. Please educate yourself on inductive and deductive reasoning, before blundering into being publicly embarrassed. That said, you leftists are hard to embarrass. You have the hides of Rhinos.

Clearly you have no idea that the leading serial killers in America were all homosexual, and that SCOTUS had no right to legalize the behavior. You've been brainwashed by the schools and media. https://barbwire.com/the-president-attempting-to-de-criminalize-sodomy-the-question-that-needs-to-be-asked-why-is-sodomy-illegal/

Hahaha, I just love being lectured on the Bible by people who don't know it or follow it. What a massive hypocrite you are. If it wasn't for double standards, you leftists would have no standards.

When you learn what wisdom and virtue are, and start to practice them, which is a very tall task for moral midgets like you, then my words will make sense to you.

Suzanne Titkemeyer: Dear Ryan,
Being serious now. It's not healthy to be as angry as you seem and to hold delusional conspiracy theories. Please think about getting help. If money is an issue many communities offer low cost options with a licensed counselor or social worker. You can even request a Christian one. Life is too short to be so miserable.

Ryan Messano: Dear Suzanne,

Righteous indignation is plenty healthy. Being lukewarm is very unhealthy, and ignorance is blissful short term, but quite tragic longterm. As for conspiracy theories, we can discuss those when you actually bother learning actual history, which you appear anxious to advertise you never have.

Your problem is you judge truth on your feelings, which have been leading you astray for quite some time. If someone appears happy to you, which Hollyweird has no problem doing as they lie up a storm, you accept that as truth. Meanwhile, when a person echoes Christ, who was called 'A man of sorrows', you feel that is not true and must be refuted. Lost in your feelings.

The purpose of life was not to feel good. Go learn about the Sophists and Epicureans, and then try to stop imitating them.

iAmerica10 #fundie zerohedge.com

By Bible prophecy only America is "Israel," fulfilling all eight of Isaiah's given signs, confirmed by Ezekiel.

The pedo homo Vatican Anti-Christ's tribal racist Rothschild fiefdom, founded explicitly as an atheist state, fulfills not one sign for "Zion," "Israel Restored."

There is no private interpretation of prophecy. Those who deny prophecy deny God, America's only named King, Savior, Lord, Shield, and Sovereign.

Herod's Idumeans, Rome's "Christ-killers," the Edomites, filched the name "***" following the extermination of the remnant of the House of Israel at Jerusalem in AD70: they are "Gog" attacking America, true "Zion" as Ezekiel 38:11 foretells.

Babylon wields Gog: both impaled The Christ under codified Roman law; both ritually sodomize their miracles from God for satanic cult consciousness; both promote illegal and Muslim immigration to invade and conquer God's America, now "sheltering the remnant of the House of Israel": Sheba, Saxon, Scottish, Irish, Welsh, and Norman.

Hebrew is from Gaelic. Celts were at the Black Sea for thousands of years before The Flood.

Rapture Ready #fundie rr-bb.com

[Crapture Ready creates a brand new sub-forum for the "Gog/Magog" prophecy]

The Coming War of Gog and Magog. Ezekiel 38 through 39 tells of a future invasion of Israel by a vast coalition of nations that surround it. As we read the headlines in the newspapers, and witness the conflict in the Middle East, it's not hard to imagine that this invasion prophesied over 2600 years ago, could be fulfilled in our lifetime.

Kehinde and Titilayo Omosebi #fundie wistv.com

Parents charged after son dies during month of fasting to get 'blessing from God'

REEDSBURG, WI (WKOW/CNN) – The parents of a 15-year-old boy face felony child neglect charges after their son died of starvation while the family was fasting in an alleged religious practice.

The teenager's father, 49-year-old Kehinde Omosebi, appeared in court Tuesday, where he was officially charged with two counts of neglecting a child. His wife, 48-year-old Titilayo Omosebi, did not appear in court but has been arrested.

A criminal complaint filed Tuesday claims Kehinde Omosebi failed to provide food for his 15-year-old and 11-year-old sons. The father went to the police station Monday to report the 15-year-old, Ayanfe Omosebi, had died.

Police officers reporting to the family’s home described the 15-year-old's body as extremely emaciated. They say there was no food or eating utensils in the home.

The 11-year-old boy was in poor health when police arrived. He was emaciated and had a hard time walking and talking, police say. The criminal complaint states he had to be carried out of his bedroom because he was unable to walk on his own.

Doctors say the boy will have to stay in the hospital for an extended time as he is treated and returns to eating regularly.

Authorities say there was no electricity in the family home, and the only furniture they found were four metal chairs in the living room, all facing one another.

There were also padlocks placed on the doors on the inside of the house in such a way "someone on the inside would be confined to the home and unable to leave," according to court records.

Kehinde Omosebi claimed the family was part of a religious group affiliated with Cornerstone Reformation Ministries. Police say they can find no records supporting the claim.

The 49-year-old told police the family had begun fasting July 17 in order to receive a "blessing from God" to move to Atlanta.

According to the criminal complaint, the 15-year-old died Aug. 31, the day Kehinde Omosebi said the fasting was supposed to end. The family reportedly prayed for two days per their religious beliefs before the father reported his son’s death.

The father allegedly told police the family had fasted with the children before but "not for this long."

Officers say they found a handwritten note addressed to county lawyers from the 11-year-old which included the statements, "The hunger is too much. Please help me now so I may eat. I can’t continue in such a life with no food."

The letter referenced it had been five days since he and his family had eaten anything.

Officers had contact with all four family members May 21 when they were putting religious pamphlets on cars in a grocery store parking lot, according to Reedsburg Police Chief Timothy Becker.

Becker says the children appeared in good health at the time.

David J. Stewart #fundie jesus-is-savior.com

Are You Hateful Enough?

By David J. Stewart

Psalm 97:10a, “Ye that love the LORD, hate evil.”

[RIGHT]image[/RIGHT] The unsaved world discourages hatred in all forms, but the Bible teaches that there is a good form of hatred—hatred against evil. In fact, God commands it in Psalm 97:10, "Ye that love the LORD, hate evil." Sadly, most professed Christians today don't hate evil like they should. Hatred is a strong word and every Christian should have a strong feeling of dislike against evil that makes us want to do something about it.

Abortion

Every born-again believer ought to hate evil in every form; such as the evil of abortion (i.e., murdering little living and growing babies). Abortion is brutal and demonic. When one stops to realize that America silently passed the 50,000,000 abortion mark in January of 2008, it's hard to fathom that 25% of our U.S. population has been holocausted. The official U.S. population for 1970 was 203,211,926.1 Since 1970, Americans have killed one-fourth of their own children. Tearfully consider that in 2004, there were 74 abortions for every 100 births in New York City. Can you imagine?

We ought not hate the people getting abortions, nor the people performing abortions; but we must hate the evil of abortion itself. To deliberately kill a child is evil. When you think of the blessings in your life, you should praise God that your parents didn't believe in abortion. Sadly, a mother's womb is the most dangerous place to be in the world today. This is a sad fact. There's not enough hatred today against abortion. God tells us to hate abortion, because abortion is very evil. If you don't hate the sin of abortion, then you DON'T love the Lord Jesus Christ.

Hateful Heathens

Ironically, it appears that some of the strongest hatred today is against Bible-believing, Christ-honoring, Christians who do hate evil as the Bible teaches. Flaming homosexual, Ellen DeGeneres, criticizes Bible-believers who “use the Bible to justify their hate.” Uh, Ellen, Psalm 97:10 does teach believers to hate, to hate evil. Hatred for sin and evil can be justified with the Bible. Ellen calls such faithful Christians, “idiotic” ...

"I don't see full-page ads saying `Stop the Hate, Stop the Violence." said DeGeneres. "These same evil, idiotic, so-called God-loving people who use the Bible to justify their hate, I'm sure still feel deep down that blacks aren't equal to whites because the Bible was also used to justify slavery."

SOURCE: http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3827/is_199810/ai_n8815714

It seems that Ellen DeGeneres has quite a bit of hatred herself toward Christians who hate evil, which brings a Bible verse to mind... Proverb 29:27, “An unjust man is an abomination to the just: and he that is upright in the way is abomination to the wicked.” An “abomination” is hatred coupled with disgust. To the righteous man, he not only views “Sin City” Las Vegas as evil, but as repulsive and disgusting. I think Hollywood (or Hollyweird) is an abomination. It's not just saturated with sin and evil, it's a disgusting place of sick-minded perverts and demented God-haters. Walt Disney employs some of the most sick-minded, perverted, immoral, sin-loving, Bible-hating, Christ-hating, blasphemous, people in the world. That's why their shows and movies are so abominable. Most of the movies and programs Walt Disney produces nowadays are utterly offensive to any decent person. There's no garbage pail that wreaks with the stench of rot and maggots anymore than Walt Disney, Hollywood and all the other heathen movies producers of this sinful generation. Even so, come, Lord Jesus! Pay Day is Coming!

Before the Apostle Paul became a Christian, he hated the Church and persecuted and tried to destroy it (Galatians 1:13). The Word of God brings out the best and the worst in people. You either love God or you are his enemy. People either love the Bible or hate it. Jesus said that the same world that hated Him, and crucified Him, would hate us and treat us the same horrible way. Increasingly, American society and nations abroad are becoming hostile towards Christianity. People who live contrary to the Word of God know it, and therefore hate the Bible intensely. Romans 1:18, "For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness." The Bible says that the wicked "hold the truth in unrighteousness." In other words, they are sinning in full knowledge of what they are doing. Ellen DeGeneres KNOWS lesbianism is a sin, and is against nature, and is abnormal and will eventually bring the judgment of God. I do not hate anyone, please know that. I only hate sin. I love sinners, because they are people whom Jesus Christ died for to pay for their sins. God loves humanity, which includes sinners too. God hates sin and evil, but he is waiting for men and women to repent (2nd Peter 3:9).

Immodesty and and Lewd Behavior

Our love for Jesus Christ is easily measured by the intensity of our hatred for sin and evil. Most people take sin lightly nowadays. It means nothing for a professed Christian woman these days to put on a miniskirt or wear a low-cut blouse. These are the sinful clothing styles of the world. 1st Timothy 2:9 and other Scriptures teach that a Christian lady ought to dress modestly as an expression of her chastity and virtuous behavior.

Hollywood female celebrities dress like sleazy-trash, whores and bimbos. I'm not trying to be unkind, I'm being moral. It is a shameful disgrace the sinful way in which American women dress immodestly nowadays, wearing tight blouses, exposing their thighs, causing men to lust in adulterous thoughts, which is adultery (Matthew 5:28). To such whorish women, it's game, a thrill a tease. They will answer to God. God tells women to dress in "modest apparel." Christian ladies ought to hate immodest clothing. Dressing seductively in public is sinful. Women and girls ought to dress in modest clothing. This is what God says in the Bible. It's rare nowadays to find women who adhere to strict Christian dress codes. Ladies ought to wear dresses. We live in a sicko society that is trying to turn teenage girls into whores. Walt Disney makes teenage girls look like whores by moral standards 50-years ago. America has lost it's respect for God, morality, the marriage, decency and Christianity. Now we've got a Muslim U.S. President who despises Christianity and won't even salute the U.S. flag during the national anthem. Sad.

What Do You Hate?

Everybody hates something. A lot of people hate the Bible. A lot of people hate Christianity. A lot of people hate a righteous person. What we ought to hate is evil. Hatred against sin is good. The unsaved world will always demonize Bible-believing Christians who hate sin. The Devil has successfully built a false religion today, that encompasses many denominations who have been taught that any form of hatred is bad. This is simply not true. God commands us as His children to HATE EVIL. That means we should hate drunkenness, fornication, whorish clothing, homosexuality, government theft and violations of the U.S. Constitution. We ought to hate lying and false advertising and cruelty to animals. We ought to hate the heathen public school system, CPS who thinks they own our children and the evil sin of divorce. We ought to hate indifference and false religion. We ought to hate movies that curse in God's name, songs and books that diminish, attack and belittle the Bible. It's seems that every movie made today has to have someone cursing in God's name. Someone told me that they like the Sylvester Stallone movie, First Blood; yet God's name is taken in vain no less than 10 times throughout the movie. The movie is evil, of the Devil and dishonors God. I hate any movie that takes God's name in vain. God created us, feeds us, gives us the health and life we enjoy, and then people go around making movies that insult God, curse in his name in anger and show utter disrespect for the Lord. No wonder America is going to Hell in a wheelbarrow. We ought to hate when anyone takes God's precious and holy name in vain.

The Jews have some crazy little thing they do, spelling God as G_d, claiming that is their way of respecting God. Yet, in total hypocrisy, they opening reject Jesus Christ as their Messiah. They are effectively atheists, because they reject Jesus as God in the flesh (John 1:1-3.14; John 10:33; I Timothy 3:16; Colossians 2:9; Revelation 1:8; John 14:1-6). We should hate the false religion of Judaism, which denies Jesus Christ as the Savior, and teaches in their Talmud that it's ok for priests to molest 3-year old girls. Why doesn't Jack Chick ever expose the Jew's false religion instead of attacking the Muslims for everything. The Muslims weren't the masterminds behind 911. We ought to hate the New World Order, which aims to destroy Christianity, eliminate true American freedom (i.e., out Bill of Rights) and bring to fruition a Communist Police State to smash resistance from Christians, patriots and those who defend the U.S. Constitution. It's frightening how insane many people get when you hand them a badge, a gun and give them authority over the common man. Then stuff like this happens. There's a million punks running around America nowadays, called police, including she-men women who belong at home baking cookies, who don't care about your Bill of Rights. They just want to smash you, take your kids and force you to comply with the New World Order's Communist agendas. You're now guilty until proven innocent. You don't have to be proven guilty to go to prison nowadays, the jury simply needs to "think" you're guilty and you're a goner. And they call that justice.

Conclusion

I could write a book on all the evils and sins which born-again Christians should hate, but that is not necessary. You have a Bible and I hope you read it. Most Christians neglect their Bible and don't read it enough (if at all). Hearing the Bible increases our faith (Romans 10:17). In discouraging times, we need to read the Bible to boost our faith. In times of loss, when our friends hurt us, family betrays us and the Devil comes after us to kill, steal and destroy (John 10:10), we ought to spend more time in the Scriptures and rest upon the promises of God. God will keep His Word, His name is at stake. You can rest assure on the promises of God.

Let us hate evil and expose it wherever it is found. You don't have to be unkind to people, but you don't have to go along with the evil either. Professed Christians all across America go to Walt Disney, Las Vegas casinos, Jack Daniel's brewery, Elvis Presley's mansion, et cetera. There are all shameful places. The need of this hour is for Christians to act like Christians and get angry over sin, because the Devil's crowd doesn't care.

CHRISTinCheryl #fundie rr-bb.com

First of all JESUS didnt come to earth to form a "religion".. he came to start HIS Kingdom..thats why HE is called "The King of all Kings"...He confronted and rebuked the Jewish 'religious folks"all the time....they wanted their rules and regulations, which neglecting compassion and love...Hypocrites he called them!!
Now Satan loves "religion" he loves to get into someones mind,decieve them, pervert the simplicity of the Gospel....start a "new religion"...usually on false doctrines....like Mormons, etc...
I dont care for "religion" but I LOVE JESUS CHRIST and HIS word
so are religions respectable??? I dont know but I do know only ONE religion has a resurrected saviour.. My LORD GOD is alive and coming back soon (dancing smilie)

Unknown #fundie massresistance.com

[on "What really happened" during the SCOTUS ruling on gay marriage; formatting original]

Probably the biggest reason we’ve been losing this battle so spectacularly rests in the laps of our own movement. It pains us to say that in many ways the religious pro-family establishment is as treacherous and opportunist as the national Republican Party establishment.

For the past decade, the religious pro-family establishment has essentially made a deal with the devil on the LGBT issue. As they took on the “culture war battles” they desperately didn’t want to be labeled as haters, bigots, fringe elements, etc., by the liberal media and political class. In return they implicitly agreed not to demean homosexual (or transgender) behavior as being immoral, perverted, unnatural, destructive, unhealthy, or medically dangerous. Although they support traditional marriage, they purposefully didn’t oppose homosexual civil unions or domestic partnerships. And although they preached that “every child needs a mother and a father,” they didn’t oppose adoption by homosexual couples or describe the practice as harmful to children.

This large scale self-censorship was an incredible benefit to the LGBT movement over the years. It completely freed them from having to defend their most vulnerable and obvious weaknesses. Instead, they were able to pound away ad nauseam with their contrived “civil rights” arguments (which also were left unchallenged). At the same time, our side busied itself with unconvincing discussions of the nature of marriage, what’s “better” for children, religious freedom, and the like.

This terrible strategy also greatly hurt us in the LGBT “culture war” battle in society in general. The refusal by our movement and its leaders to tell the truth allowed corporations, politicians (including the GOP), civic organizations, left-wing churches, and other institutions to cave in to the LGBT movement largely unimpeded. (Our favorite: Pro-family groups rebuked corporations by politely asking them to “Be neutral in the culture war,” instead of demanding “Don’t support perversion.”)

Once the radicals got this momentum going, is it any wonder the LGBT movement was able to sail through the federal courts? Our side’s legal arguments were often so lopsided that judges were almost left no choice but to rule for the homosexuals. Back in 2009, in the California Prop-8 trial, the out-homosexual federal judge actually rebuked the pro-family attorneys for presenting such an inept presentation of their case.

The US Supreme Court “gay marriage” case continued this pattern, as we reported back in May. And the result, shocking as it was, was really much the same as in the lower federal courts.

ComtdeMistre #fundie freerepublic.com

I just read this article on the struggles that many conservative Christian pastors are undergoing, with internet pornography: http://www.christianpost.com/news/pornography-and-pastors-103931/

I believe that easy availability of free porn on the internet has lessened the taboos that Americans traditionally had, when taking about perverted sex acts. People who have viewed internet porn, feel hypocritical when they condemn gay marriage.

Porn is a form of prostitution, and prostitution is illegal in 49 out of the 50 states. Why does local law enforcement prosecute pimps, hookers and johns, for street prostitution, but leave out the millions of incidents of prostitution taking place in all 50 states in the form of internet porn.

In the early days of internet porn, internet users had to confirm they were adults, before they could get access to internet porn. There are no such restrictions today.

I view internet porn as a deliberate globalist plot to destroy America. In 2012, the white population in America declined for the first time in history, something that did not even take place during big wars and the great depression. The number of white Americans who died outnumbered the white Americans who were born by 12,400. I suspect internet porn played a major role in that tragedy. http://www.medicaldaily.com/population-white-americans-declining-first-time-ever-what-will-race-look-americas-future-246815

Chad Ripperger #fundie youtube.com

[Video transcript]

This witchcraft is finding itself not just among girls in Catholic high schools, it’s finding itself in video games. If you pay close attention to it, the guys making the video games today are doing their research. They are digging up these ancient gods, which are just another name for demons as we can read in the Old Testament and New Testament and from my personal experience too, all the gods of gentiles are demons, and I can testify that. I’ve seen Baal, which is mentioned in scripture, Asmodeus, Isis, Osiris, the guy named Loki who’s out there today, by the way, who interestingly, Loki – if this gives you any indication of the stronghold he gets – he’s the demon who goes around seeking people who have religious and priestly vocations to neglect entering those.

It’s even in the video games, and even in some of the other games, they’re actually happening where you have to actually cast real spells, these guys are digging up real spells and casting them in the process of this, this even goes – and I’ll just answer now, because someone’s going to ask the question ‘what about Harry Potter?’ Okay, It was expunged from the Internet, as soon as I saw it I ran to the Internet and grabbed it, and I made a copy of it somewhere in my files. Basically J. K. Rowling wrote Harry Potter, she did the entire Harry Potter series by auto-writing, and auto-writing is a form of diabolic channeling. I’m not accusing her of thinking this is done, that she’s using diabolic channeling. She went to witch school. Real witches will testify that the actual spells in Harry Potter are real spells, unlike Tolkien, who uses it as a literary device.

Mark Jones #fundie markjones1388.esy.es

In Acts chapter 17 we read of a people called the Bereans. In this passage (verses 10-15) that they appear in (very little of the Bereans is mentioned in the Bible), it shows them take the words of the apostle Paul and examine them in relation to the Old Testament scriptures (quite possibly the Septuagint, certainly the Tanakh if not the Septuagint).

In verse 11 we read the following quote:
“Now the Berean Jews were of more noble character than those in Thessalonica, for they received the message with great eagerness and examined the Scriptures every day to see if what Paul said was true.” Acts 17:11 (NIV)

The Bereans were the people who lived in the ancient city of Berea (also known as Beroea), the city is now called Veria and is situated in Macedonia in Northern Greece.

Many people will listen to something they are taught and will take that as truth. However the example the Bereans set in this verse is that we should check the validity of what we are told and examine those things and check that they are in line with what the Bible tells us. There would’ve been no doubt people in that time who reacted when they read this and expressed outrage, saying something along the lines of, “how can these people dare to doubt the words of the apostle Paul”. It may sound like a harsh response, but it’s often what we see happen today, in fact many atheistic arguments are based on similar logic, “who are you to disagree with the words of Stephen Hawking (etc)?”. That kind of logic in of itself proves that it is of man and not of God. The principle outlined here in Acts 17 with the the Bereans is an important one and it is something we can glean something from.
So in this post I’m going to outline a few ways we can test something said in the Bible or even an interpretation of a verse someone references or just simply the outlining of a belief that someone has, and test it in such a way that does justice by God’s word and doesn’t mire it in our eyes.

So without further ado, let’s get into it:

Go To God’s Word First:
You’ll have no doubt heard someone ask the question, why are there are so many contradictions in the Bible? This argument is actually rooted in a seed of deception that goes back to first century AD, in 2 Corinthians 4:4 we are told that the god of this age (who is Satan) has blinded the eyes of the unbelievers so that they will not see the light of the gospel. The word we see in the original Greek language where we see the word unbelievers is the word apistos. The word apistos means unfaithful, faithless, incredible, unbelieving or incredulous. So this statement in 2 Corinthians 4:4 almost seems to have a Ronseal principle to it (does exactly what it says on the tin), however I think it goes a little deeper than that. In John 3:16 we see the word pisteuo and it means to be persuaded of something or to completely trust in something. I think Paul is hinting at the reverse of this very principle outlined in John 3:16, so 2 Corinthians 4:4 isn’t just referring to those who haven’t committed their lives to Christ, but also to those who doubt the ways and the truth of God. This could be part of the reason why Paul tells the Church in Corinth a little later in the letter to examine themselves to see if they are in the faith (2 Corinthians 13:5).

But back to the “contradictions”. Any so-called contradictions that we run into in scripture are either born out of man-made teaching or simply out of a lack of understanding of scripture as a whole. What we need to do is cross-check with what the scriptures say and the Bereans had that principle nailed, they cross-checked a statement or a principle we now find in the New Testament with what was written in the Old Testament.
NB – Check out my post called “The 2 Timothy 3:16 Principle” for more on the subject.

Now this means a couple of things, first we actually need to read the Old Testament. Some people don’t like reading the Old Testament because they find it confusing, or they believe it paints a different picture of God than of the one we see in the New Testament. In response to that let me say this, the human mind is an incredible thing, but our heart is even more powerful than our minds. In fact the prophet Jeremiah tells us that the heart is deceitful above all things and beyond cure (note this in reference to human works) and he asks the question who can understand it? (Jeremiah 17:9) However we read in Ezekiel 36:26 a promise from God where we are told that He will give us a new heart, removing our heart of stone and replacing it with a heart of flesh (not to be confused with the flesh Paul often speaks of). So if our hearts are polluted then it is entirely possible for our hearts to convince our minds of something that is contrary to what is the truth. This is part of the principle behind the words of Jesus in the Gospel of Luke when He told us to deny ourselves daily and to take up our cross and follow Him (Luke 9:23). Where we see the word deny in this verse in Luke it is the Greek word arnesastho which is very closely linked to a word we’ve discussed before on this blog, arneomai. As we’ve talked about in the past the word arneomai means to deny, disown or contradict, so in this verse in Luke it’s saying that we have to literally give up ownership of ourselves and take up our cross and follow Jesus. So we need to read the Old Testament.
The other thing we need to do is to see if it fits with the overall picture that scripture gives us (so reading the entire Bible). For example, does what we see in Psalm 1:2 where we are told that our delight is in the law of the Lord and on that law (the word of God) we should meditate on it day and night line up with other verses in scripture. We are told in Joshua 1:8 to meditate on the law of the Lord day and night, it’s the exact same principle. And just to show that this is not a ruse or anything like that, let me ask you what you’re reaction would be if I told you that there was over 400 years between the writing of these two verses. You see Joshua chapter 1 would’ve been written in about 1406 BC and Psalm 1 would’ve been about 979 BC, now if those two dates are exact (I have no reason to say they’re not), then that puts these two verses 427 years apart. But I’ll get into timelines a little later on.

What we need to do when a preacher preaches a sermon or a Bible study leader explains a passage or a verse is to go away and read the scriptures and check if it all lines up.

We Need To Read Into A Bit Of History:

Now, I know that history isn’t everybody’s cup of tea however when it comes to understanding the words of the Bible it can be quite key.

However please let me briefly explain why history is important when it comes to testing the validity of God’s word. You see what it simply boils down to is the fact that when it comes to the historical claims of the Bible (creation, Jesus, the ark, the exodus, etc), none of us who are reading this post were alive when those events occurred. So the question then is how can we know they’re true historical accounts? Is there evidence for such events in the Bible? Well to answer the first question, there is an amazing wealth of evidence for the events that the Bible outlines, we have found the ruins of the city of Jericho we also have massive evidence supporting the global flood recorded in Genesis 6-9 (you can see more on that here) and there’s a more than all of that, but I’ll leave you to do your own research (I’ll give some recommended sites to start with for doing that). And the answer to the second question, is yes, there’s lots of evidence supporting the Biblical accounts.

So let me encourage you to look into things such as Biblical chronology, and Biblical history. Some of the stuff you’ll find along the way is fascinating. For example I’m currently reading a book called “The Discovery of Genesis” by C.H. Kang and Ethel R. Nelson, the book looks at examples of how the Chinese language links in with the accounts of the book of Genesis. It is a truly fascinating book, in it we see examples such as the word for boat relating to the flood, when we break down the symbols that make up the word boat we can see that the word boat points to a vessel for eight people. So reading into some of this is not only fascinating but can help us to grow stronger in the faith.

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History is important to the events of the Bible, because if the events of the Bible did not happen then the Bible is not infallible, and because of the claim of 2 Timothy 3:16 that all scripture is God breathed, then if even 1% of the Bible is false then the entire Bible is compromised.

However let me say that although history is important to understanding the validity of the Bible, by all means this does not mean you have to be an expert in the subject. One of the best things to know as a Christian when it comes to any question that arises in regards to the Bible is where to go to find answers to those said questions.

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Little Bit:

Did you know that one of the most common objections that critics of the Christian faith make, is that the Bible apparently tells us that the world is flat? An example of where this comes from is found in Revelation 7:1 which makes reference to the “four corners of the earth”, however the Bible states in Isaiah 40:22 that the earth is a circle, remember though the obvious understanding (before some misinterprets the word circle) that a sphere is a 3D circle and the earth is spherical in nature.
Science tells us a lot about the truth of Biblical history, for example did you know that the mitochondrial (from the mother) and y chromosome (father) both trace back to a single ancestral sequence approximately 6,000 years ago (more on that here), this is something that you may not get taught in a science classroom today. Science is very important to know about in regards to defending our faith today, as it is highly likely to be one of the first areas you will be challenged on about your faith, bearing in mind the myth that is running around rampantly that says “science has disproved God”.

Again like in all of the other subjects, you don’t have to be an expert in the field, again I’m most certainly not although I do enjoy reading into science, but it is helpful to know a little bit on the subject and more importantly to know where to go to find answers to the questions you’ll get asked.

Now the Bible does make some scientific claims, such as we all come from two people, Adam and Eve. The thing we have to look into is whether or not science supports the claims made in the Bible, I touch on the Adam and Eve question a little bit a couple of paragraphs before this one. But looking into science is pretty important in this day and age to understanding the validity behind the Bible, but again you don’t have to be an expert on science but having a basic understanding of it and knowing where to go to find some great answers is definitely valuable.
One other thing I think is worth mentioning is that understanding the difference between historical and operational science, the reason why I say this is because very often at the minute the lines between the two get blurred particularly when you’re talking to evolutionists. We often see the claim that creation is pseudo-science and evolution is science, however both evolution and creation are historical science, they are versions of history that haven’t been observed through operational science that we either accept or don’t accept and then use operational science to look for evidence that supports the historical science that we accept. But in a basic way of saying it is historical science is conclusions that we form from things that we see from the past (historical records, archaeology, etc), whereas operational science is the testable repeatable and observational methods that we can use today, such as carbon dating for example (check out this article for more). So knowing enough about the difference between historical and operational science is of a great benefit in helping us tell the difference between the two, but again you don’t have to be an expert on the subject, but know where you can get the information from that you need to answer the questions.

In Closing:

So that’s all I wanted to say in this post eally. When it comes to testing what the Bible has to say to us, we need to start with the Bible and cross-check it with what it has to say in other parts of it. Look into a bit of history, look at what evidence we find that supports the accounts in scripture.
Read a bit into the original languages look at what the original words were in their original languages, find out what they mean and how they correspond to your understanding of what you’re reading. And finally look a bit into science, go and look into whether or not science supports the Bible or not. But don’t worry about being an expert in these things, you don’t have to be one, again I’m not one.

I hope you’ve found this post both interesting and helpful. I would love to hear your thoughts, as I mentioned I’m going to post some links below that may help with looking into some of these things, so if there’s any extra ones you can think of just drop them in the comments or send me them over through my Facebook page and I’ll update the list, I may even create a sub-page here on the site of useful links, let me know if that is something that you would want.

I’ll be posting again soon as I have a lot of posts in the draft que currently being edited.
But until next time I’ll leave you with the links below.

All the best,
Mark

Llewellyn H. Rockwell Jr.; various Randroids #racist mises.org

Open Borders Are an Assault on Private Property

Whether we’re talking about illegal immigration from Mexico and Central America, or birthright citizenship, or the migrants coming from the Middle East and Africa, the subject of immigration has been in the news and widely discussed for months now. It is an issue fraught with potentially perilous consequences, so it is especially important for libertarians to understand it correctly.

This Mises Circle, which is devoted to a consideration of where we ought to go from here, seems like an opportune moment to take up this momentous question.

I should note at the outset that in searching for the correct answer to this vexing problem I do not seek to claim originality. To the contrary, I draw much of what follows from two of the people whose work is indispensable to a proper understanding of the free society: Murray N. Rothbard and Hans-Hermann Hoppe.

Some libertarians have assumed that the correct libertarian position on immigration must be “open borders,” or the completely unrestricted movement of people. Superficially, this appears correct: surely we believe in letting people go wherever they like!

But hold on a minute. Think about “freedom of speech,” another principle people associate with libertarians. Do we really believe in freedom of speech as an abstract principle? That would mean I have the right to yell all during a movie, or the right to disrupt a Church service, or the right to enter your home and shout obscenities at you.

What we believe in are private property rights. No one has “freedom of speech” on my property, since I set the rules, and in the last resort I can expel someone. He can say whatever he likes on his own property, and on the property of anyone who cares to listen to him, but not on mine.

The same principle holds for freedom of movement. Libertarians do not believe in any such principle in the abstract. I do not have the right to wander into your house, or into your gated community, or into Disneyworld, or onto your private beach, or onto Jay-Z’s private island. As with “freedom of speech,” private property is the relevant factor here. I can move onto any property I myself own or whose owner wishes to have me. I cannot simply go wherever I like.

Now if all the parcels of land in the whole world were privately owned, the solution to the so-called immigration problem would be evident. In fact, it might be more accurate to say that there would be no immigration problem in the first place. Everyone moving somewhere new would have to have the consent of the owner of that place.

When the state and its so-called public property enter the picture, though, things become murky, and it takes extra effort to uncover the proper libertarian position. I’d like to try to do that today.

Shortly before his death, Murray Rothbard published an article called “Nations by Consent: Decomposing the Nation State.” He had begun rethinking the assumption that libertarianism committed us to open borders.

He noted, for instance, the large number of ethnic Russians whom Stalin settled in Estonia. This was not done so that Baltic people could enjoy the fruits of diversity. It never is. It was done in an attempt to destroy an existing culture, and in the process to make a people more docile and less likely to cause problems for the Soviet empire.

Murray wondered: does libertarianism require me to support this, much less to celebrate it? Or might there be more to the immigration question after all?

And here Murray posed the problem just as I have: in a fully private-property society, people would have to be invited onto whatever property they traveled through or settled on.

If every piece of land in a country were owned by some person, group, or corporation, this would mean that no person could enter unless invited to enter and allowed to rent or purchase property. A totally privatized country would be as closed as the particular property owners desire. It seems clear, then, that the regime of open borders that exists de facto in the U.S. and Western Europe really amounts to a compulsory opening by the central state, the state in charge of all streets and public land areas, and does not genuinely reflect the wishes of the proprietors.

In the current situation, on the other hand, immigrants have access to public roads, public transportation, public buildings, and so on. Combine this with the state’s other curtailments of private property rights, and the result is artificial demographic shifts that would not occur in a free market. Property owners are forced to associate and do business with individuals they might otherwise avoid.

“Commercial property owners such as stores, hotels, and restaurants are no longer free to exclude or restrict access as they see fit,” writes Hans. “Employers can no longer hire or fire who they wish. In the housing market, landlords are no longer free to exclude unwanted tenants. Furthermore, restrictive covenants are compelled to accept members and actions in violation of their very own rules and regulations.”

Hans continues:

By admitting someone onto its territory, the state also permits this person to proceed on public roads and lands to every domestic resident’s doorsteps, to make use of all public facilities and services (such as hospitals and schools), and to access every commercial establishment, employment, and residential housing, protected by a multitude of nondiscrimination laws.

It is rather unfashionable to express concern for the rights of property owners, but whether the principle is popular or not, a transaction between two people should not occur unless both of those people want it to. This is the very core of libertarian principle.

In order to make sense of all this and reach the appropriate libertarian conclusion, we have to look more closely at what public property really is and who, if anyone, can be said to be its true owner. Hans has devoted some of his own work to precisely this question. There are two positions we must reject: that public property is owned by the government, or that public property is unowned, and is therefore comparable to land in the state of nature, before individual property titles to particular parcels of land have been established.

Certainly we cannot say public property is owned by the government, since government may not legitimately own anything. Government acquires its property by force, usually via the intermediary of taxation. A libertarian cannot accept that kind of property acquisition as morally legitimate, since it involves the initiation of force (the extraction of tax dollars) on innocent people. Hence government’s pretended property titles are illegitimate.

But neither can we say that public property is unowned. Property in the possession of a thief is not unowned, even if at the moment it does not happen to be held by the rightful owner. The same goes for so-called public property. It was purchased and developed by means of money seized from the taxpayers. They are the true owners.

(This, incidentally, was the correct way to approach de-socialization in the former communist regimes of eastern Europe. All those industries were the property of the people who had been looted to build them, and those people should have received shares in proportion to their contribution, to the extent it could have been determined.)

In an anarcho-capitalist world, with all property privately owned, “immigration” would be up to each individual property owner to decide. Right now, on the other hand, immigration decisions are made by a central authority, with the wishes of property owners completely disregarded. The correct way to proceed, therefore, is to decentralize decision-making on immigration to the lowest possible level, so that we approach ever more closely the proper libertarian position, in which individual property owners consent to the various movements of peoples.

Ralph Raico, our great libertarian historian, once wrote:

Free immigration would appear to be in a different category from other policy decisions, in that its consequences permanently and radically alter the very composition of the democratic political body that makes those decisions. In fact, the liberal order, where and to the degree that it exists, is the product of a highly complex cultural development. One wonders, for instance, what would become of the liberal society of Switzerland under a regime of “open borders.”

Switzerland is in fact an interesting example. Before the European Union got involved, the immigration policy of Switzerland approached the kind of system we are describing here. In Switzerland, localities decided on immigration, and immigrants or their employers had to pay to admit a prospective migrant. In this way, residents could better ensure that their communities would be populated by people who would add value and who would not stick them with the bill for a laundry list of “benefits.”

Obviously, in a pure open borders system, the Western welfare states would simply be overrun by foreigners seeking tax dollars. As libertarians, we should of course celebrate the demise of the welfare state. But to expect a sudden devotion to laissez faire to be the likely outcome of a collapse in the welfare state is to indulge in naïveté of an especially preposterous kind.

Can we conclude that an immigrant should be considered “invited” by the mere fact that he has been hired by an employer? No, says Hans, because the employer does not assume the full cost associated with his new employee. The employer partially externalizes the costs of that employee on the taxpaying public:

Equipped with a work permit, the immigrant is allowed to make free use of every public facility: roads, parks, hospitals, schools, and no landlord, businessman, or private associate is permitted to discriminate against him as regards housing, employment, accommodation, and association. That is, the immigrant comes invited with a substantial fringe benefits package paid for not (or only partially) by the immigrant employer (who allegedly has extended the invitation), but by other domestic proprietors as taxpayers who had no say in the invitation whatsoever.

These migrations, in short, are not market outcomes. They would not occur on a free market. What we are witnessing are examples of subsidized movement. Libertarians defending these mass migrations as if they were market phenomena are only helping to discredit and undermine the true free market.

Moreover, as Hans points out, the “free immigration” position is not analogous to free trade, as some libertarians have erroneously claimed. In the case of goods being traded from one place to another, there is always and necessarily a willing recipient. The same is not true for “free immigration.”

To be sure, it is fashionable in the US to laugh at words of caution about mass immigration. Why, people made predictions about previous waves of immigration, we’re told, and we all know those didn’t come true. Now for one thing, those waves were all followed by swift and substantial immigration reductions, during which time society adapted to these pre-welfare state population movements. There is virtually no prospect of any such reductions today. For another, it is a fallacy to claim that because some people incorrectly predicted a particular outcome at a particular time, therefore that outcome is impossible, and anyone issuing words of caution about it is a contemptible fool.

The fact is, politically enforced multiculturalism has an exceptionally poor track record. The twentieth century affords failure after predictable failure. Whether it’s Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia, the Soviet Union, or Pakistan and Bangladesh, or Malaysia and Singapore, or the countless places with ethnic and religious divides that have not yet been resolved to this day, the evidence suggests something rather different from the tale of universal brotherhood that is such a staple of leftist folklore.

No doubt some of the new arrivals will be perfectly decent people, despite the US government’s lack of interest in encouraging immigration among the skilled and capable. But some will not. The three great crime waves in US history – which began in 1850, 1900, and 1960 — coincided with periods of mass immigration.

Crime isn’t the only reason people may legitimately wish to resist mass immigration. If four million Americans showed up in Singapore, that country’s culture and society would be changed forever. And no, it is not true that libertarianism would in that case require the people of Singapore to shrug their shoulders and say it was nice having our society while it lasted but all good things must come to an end. No one in Singapore would want that outcome, and in a free society, they would actively prevent it.

In other words, it’s bad enough we have to be looted, spied on, and kicked around by the state. Should we also have to pay for the privilege of cultural destructionism, an outcome the vast majority of the state’s taxpaying subjects do not want and would actively prevent if they lived in a free society and were allowed to do so?

The very cultures that the incoming migrants are said to enrich us with could not have developed had they been constantly bombarded with waves of immigration by peoples of radically different cultures. So the multicultural argument doesn’t even make sense.

It is impossible to believe that the US or Europe will be a freer place after several more decades of uninterrupted mass immigration. Given the immigration patterns that the US and EU governments encourage, the long-term result will be to make the constituencies for continued government growth so large as to be practically unstoppable. Open-borders libertarians active at that time will scratch their heads and claim not to understand why their promotion of free markets is having so little success. Everybody else will know the answer.

pastoredsmith #fundie disqus.com

pastoredsmith:
There is nothing in atheism except denial. Denial, when it comes to refuting the truth about God, is a religion. You worship your own logic. And, my congregation is doing well. Perhaps you should join us. God will change your miserable, imaginary life into one of purpose.

bumsmcgee:
They are not that different than you. They just add one more God they don’t believe in to the list you yourself use. Your threats are just your own paranoid revenge fantasy. You can’t handle being disagreed with.

pastoredsmith:
You don't know me, yet you continue your fake insults. Typical of an atheist who knows he can't win the argument using his own logic. Don't know who said it, but they are right...... "
When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the losers." Had to be an atheist that said that.

bumsmcgee:
Yeah, it’s always the atheists people like you give the blame to. Anyway what I said is true. I just disbelieve one more God than you do.

pastoredsmith:
"people like you give blame to..." No, that is not true. "Blame" is not "given" it comes from actions. FFRF, the bullies you represent, are the people who are trying to stifle all voices but those who line up with them. It is atheists who want to rewrite textbooks and omit the obvious Christian influence on the formation of the USA and all the good that is being done. I've never seen an atheist hospital nor an atheist food pantry. How about an atheist version of the Salvation Army that feeds and clothes the needy. None exist. The absence of God in a life is equal to the absence of true, genuine love; for only in God can that kind of love be found. I don't hate you, although you certainly have insinuated the opposite of that here. To tell the truth is not to hate, it is to set the record straight. I pray you find your way home from your atheism before it is too late for you.

bumsmcgee:
You're just reinforcing my point. Atheism is an opinion and that's all it is. We don't form clubs and organizations, except in cases where religion oversteps its boundaries. And I know of Christians who side with groups like the FFRF on occasion because your side DOES occasionally champion political causes they have no business being involved with. If no one is there to keep your side in line, you'll get away with murder.

pastoredsmith:
Wrong. Your point is that atheists think they can command the government. You think that by sending a threatening letter to a school, you can prevent a Christian teacher from laying a Bible on her desk. You think that you can silence Christians in the public arena, but you will never accomplish that. You think that you have authority over Christians in matters of free speech, but you don't. And, it is NOT atheists job to "Keep your side in line." You are not the gods you claim to disbelieve. And, I can always tell when an atheist has lost an argument. The slander comes forth. Murder? You don't believe in the 10 Commandments, if you truly don't believe in God, then you don't believe in the Bible. So, it is not I who commits that which I believe is wrong.

bumsmcgee:
You are WRONG

Atheists have no desire to command or control the government. The point is, they strongly desire that faith-minded people like YOU don't either. You are convinced you have the TRUTH but all you have is faith, and many reasonable people disagree with the heavy-handed things you try to hammer through. People like you believe abortion is murder when it is NOT, not by the definition of the dictionary nor the definition of the law. If you had your way, people would be thrown in jail for not worshipping your holy book and homosexuals would be jailed or worse. We have the right and the desire to be protected from people like you.

pastoredsmith:
No, I am RIGHT. Atheists DO want to control and command the government. Atheists ARE trying to silence Christians. I notice that you don't focus your efforts on Muslims. Only Christians. And, I have the truth....faith in the truth is easy. All you have is faith in the vein babblings of man's wild imagination. You have no basis for morality, as you think one thing and the next guy something, so there is no base line to build on....like a building with no foundation. And, you add much to what I am as opposed to the monster you make me out to be. I believe in freedom for all; including atheists, homosexuals and the like. No, I never advocated anyone be thrown in jail for their beliefs. And, the "protection" you seek from "people like you" is exactly my point. You don't want protection any more than gays "only wanted to get married." you want to fundamentally change society to jail "people like me" who dare express the truth. All this and you still hide behind a "handle." You are a coward, stenching the world from behind your private little curtain. "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain..." he is only a babbling atheist. If you wish to discuss, fine, But, stop the insults. I'll talk with you, but you won't slander me further.

bumsmcgee:
We have seen pastors calling for the execution of gay people. For that reason and that reason alone we need to be protected from the likes of you. You want your faith-based beliefs to be laws. You want a woman's right to choose to be taken away, and this is strictly based on your faith. You are RELIGION, we should have the right to say NO to you and we need to be protected from you.

pastoredsmith:
You have seen confused individuals who call themselves "pastors" calling for execution because someone is gay. Why do you care anyway? Are you gay? A woman's right to choose? What about the BABY's rights? After all, you say you are a person of science who hides behind that mask, right? So, if a whale fetus is a baby whale, what makes you think a fetus is not a human baby? From conception? You are no scientist. You are a hypocrite. And, I am NOT "religion." Religion does kill. Ask any Muslim who'd love to chop off your head because you are an atheist. People are very much imperfect; even and maybe especially some who call themselves "Christians." Can you testify to the good moral character of all atheists? No, you can't. No, you don't need protection from me. That's not what you seek. You seek silence of Christians; the very people who are doing good in this culture. Silence the hospitals and food pantry's and the clothing banks and all the good things that we (I) am involved with. You have lumped us in with radical religion because there is a fringe who are idiots, such as the "church" in Topeka that boycotts military funerals. These people are not Christians and hide behind the wall of lies they put up that is painted to look Christian. Sir, you need protection from someone, I'll agree. That someone is yourself. Your own twisted mind causes you to conjure up lies about me because you *think* I'm guilty of them. You couldn't be more wrong.

bumsmcgee:
What do you mean, "why do you care anyway?" Some religious lunatic decides that all gay people should be put to death, and wants to see the government enact such craziness? There are stats that say 1 in 10 people are LGBT. I care VERY MUCH that a guy calling himself a Christian Pastor would like to have the power to basically call for genocide. And this is something you defend?

The fact you're calling a fetus/zygote/embryo a "baby" tells me you're not being entirely reasonable. Of course I don't see abortion as something that is good. The thing is, most of the women put in that agonizing position don't either. But you don't look at individual situations AT ALL. You just say it's murder (it's not) and that's that. And once again, you want the government to enforce it. Yet another very good reason why the FFRF exists and why we have the right to be protected from people like you.

If the two examples above are the "good moral character" you insist Christians have, and criticize atheists for not having, I think can I safely rest my case. People like you scare the living daylights out of me.

Peter Montgomery #homophobia blogs.timesofisrael.com

(=A reply to "Homophobia is the real sin"=)

the devil loves this kind of deception coming from the so-called religious, the Torah is clear on this abomination as are the rest of the prophets
the writer is in danger of hellfire and will have the blood of those he leads astray to answer for
you are warned according to Ezekiel 3 and 33

godhatesireland #fundie godhatesireland.com

Ireland is notorious for being huge supporters of the evil monstrosity that is the Catholic "church." Some 92% of Ireland’s 4.1 million people proclaim themselves to be Catholic. You can't get much more demonic than supporting an institution that damns souls to Hell on a daily basis. These churches support adultery by granting annulments to husbands and wives who deal treacherously with each other, despite Christ's teaching on the subject: Luke 16:18 Whosoever putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery: and whosoever marrieth her that is put away from her husband committeth adultery. This is just the tip of the iceberg; the Catholic Monster also endorses idolatry/Mariolatry, the lie that God loves everyone (despite Ps. 5:5, Rom. 9:13, and many more), infant baptism, unmarried priests, and so many more anti-Bible doctrines.

However, the worst part of the Catholic Monster would definitely have to be the fact that the priests "secretly" rape little boys and girls, and their parents pay the priests to do it! Moreover, these rapists' fellow false prophets cover it up and are enraged by the fact that that this sick tradition is being exposed. Come and hear the sick saga of Father Ollie (Oliver O'Grady), who was deported back to Ireland from the U.S., after spending 7 years in prison for sodomizing hundreds of kids while a priest. O'Grady worked with Roman Catholic Archbishop Mahoney of the Southern California diocese, which recently settled cases of Priest Molestation for $640 million (2/3 of a billion dollars). "Father Ollie" was transferred from parish to parish for fresh supplies of kids to molest for many years. According to the film, "Deliver Us from Evil," "Father Ollie" is still a Catholic priest in good standing, well respected throughout Ireland where he lives on a pension and an annuity - a bribe, if you will - to keep him quiet about all the criminal molesting of little kids by the thousands.

You can bet Ireland is DELIGHTED to have this old pervert priest living out his retirement years in Ireland, where he is celebrated like a retired rock star celebrity. Jeff Anderson, an attorney representing hundreds of abused kids in litigation for more than twenty years, says in the film, "Deliver Us from Evil," as follows: "Every day, every week, I learn of another child molested by a cleric who hasn't been disclosed before this day, and my belief is, that there are not hundreds, but there are thousands of offenders yet to be exposed and disclosed still roaming the churches in the landscapes in this U.S., and tens of thousands worldwide." (And one of the biggest child-molesting-priest nations - worldwide - is Ireland.) Jeremiah 5:29-31 Shall I not visit for these things? saith the Lord; shall not my soul be avenged on such a nation as this? A wonderful and horrible thing is committed in the land; The prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests bear rule by their means; and my people love to have it so, and what will ye do in the end thereof? For more on the Catholic Monster, see www.priestsrapeboys.com and this video on signmovies.net that explains the evil of Catholics.

Ireland is in so much trouble for their outrageous sins and lies. They are beyond salvation because they refuse to repent. Jeremiah 6:15 Were they ashamed when they had committed abomination? nay, they were not at all ashamed, neither could they blush: therefore they shall fall among them that fall: at the time that I visit them they shall be cast down, saith the LORD. The time of Ireland's visitation by a raging mad God is nigh at hand. Ezekiel 7:3,4 Now is the end come upon thee, and I will send mine anger upon thee, and will judge thee according to thy ways, and will recompense upon thee all thine abominations. And mine eye shall not spare thee, neither will I have pity; but I will recompense thy ways upon thee, and thine abominations shall be in the midst of thee; and ye shall know that I am the Lord.

Anna Diehl #fundie 924jeremiah.wordpress.com

Revelation has a very important and chilling lesson to teach us modern day believers. Forget about the end times—we’ll get no help about that topic in this book because Yahweh is playing games with these New Testament believers. He’s telling them what they want to hear instead of telling them the truth. When we really stop to think about this, it’s a terrifying thought, for where are we going to end up if God Himself begins to purposely deceive us? What hope do we have of ever discovering truth if God hides that truth from us? True wisdom is something which only God can reveal to us. The soul attitudes which will really lead to our true happiness are ones that only He can teach us. Those attitudes are the antithesis of the egotistical rot that permeates Revelation.

In the Old Testament, Yahweh describes Himself as intentionally withholding spiritual illumination from scores of people so that those people will be unable to progress in their relationship with Him (see Cancelled Invitation). In the Gospels, Jesus does the same thing: He claims to be intentionally blocking His audience from understanding the spiritual truths He is setting right in front of them (seeJesus: the Bewildering Teacher). What happens when God blinds your eyes? You are blind, and yet you think you can see. You turn into an absolute fool and yet you honestly think you are wise. Look around the Church today at all of these false prophets and pompous preachers who dispense utter baloney from the pulpit with absolute confidence. Many of these people honestly think that they are correct in their thinking. These false prophets really think their visions are from God. The pompous preachers really think they are brimming with insight. Then there are all of these Bible scholars who go waving their degrees in your face while emphatically denying principles of Scripture that are clearly spelled out right in front of them. Though Yahweh claims to be the ultimate Source of all the good and evil in this world, our “scholars” emphatically deny this to be true. Though both Yahweh and Jesus tell blatant lies and completely reverse promises and laws that They have laid down, teachers in the Church today insist that Paul is correct when he says that God can’t lie and that James is correct when he says that God has nothing to do with evil. Who are we choosing to listen to: foolish humans or our Gods? We’ve chosen the humans. Modern Church theology is a mirror image of New Testament foolishness.

Anonymous #fundie angelfire.com

A time of Great calamity is dawning upon us. This time it is not from the Serbs, Jews, Fascist Hindus, US, UK, or Other Enemy of Islaam but from our own ranks. Like the Jews of Turkey who converted to Islaam during the latter part of the Ottoman rule, to gain positions of power and destroy Islaam from within, a certain group of people have joined ranks to discredit Islaam. This group of Munafiqeens are openly saying that homosexuality is not Haraam. They launch their campaign in Los Angeles in the United States during a Gay Festival. They are also launching a video and will start a publicity campaign shortly.

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With all due respect I again say People are not "born" homosexual or bisexual.... This is a choice that a human makes for themselves... Allaah punishes those for their choices in this life...Like those who choose to steal, choose to lie, choose to commit zinaa, etc.... but Allaah does not punish for the way that He created us, born female, male, spanish, chinese, etc.... these are not choices, but HOW we live is a choice in every sense of the word... This idea that people are "born" homosexual is from the Kufaar and is not based on
Islamic Law, after all homosexuality is a CRIME, and as such is punishable by death... and I would like to add that Allaah forgives His slaves if they repent sincerely and this is of course up to Allaah to judge, but they must stay away from the sin that they are committing. When We do not agree with their claim that their sexual orientation is natural; rather it is a distortion of nature. Allaah counted their deed as wrongdoing and immoral, and He sent upon the people of Lut a punishment the like of which no other nation had seen. He also tells us that this punishment is not ever far from the wrongdoers. Their claim that their orientation is natural serves only to propagate and spread immorality, and it is just an excuse for them. Many of them change their appearance so as to look odd, so how can we say that this is how they were created? Allaah does not create anyone just to punish or torture them. He created mankind to worship Him, but He may try His slaves with hardship as a test of their faith, to expiate for their sins and to raise their status. Allaah is too Just to force a person to commit sin and then punish him. On the contrary, people commit sins by their own free choice – like these Perverted People – and it is for this that they deserve to be punished. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): "And your Lord treats no one with injustice" [Qur'ân in Surah al-Kahf 18:49]

And Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): "Nay, Allaah never commands Fahshaa' (evil deeds, unlawful sexual intercourse). Do you say of Allaah what you know not?"
[Qur'ân in Surah Al-Anbiya al-A'raaf 7:28]

And as for gays being born that way, Allaah created Adam and Eve not adam and steve, and from all three semitic religions, christianity, judaism, an Islaam, we see that homosexuality only brought destruction onto itself....in other words, they were destroyed by Allaah....thus there is no "gay history", their only history is destruction, and there is no "gay pride", since they were humiliated through the wrath of Allah.

Islaam is not alone in this prohibition, which also holds for Catholics, Mormons and several Protestant denominations. But while Western societies offer a range of spiritual alternatives for Gay Christians, Jews and others who seek to maintain some form of religious faith, Islaam has traditionally closed the door to even the notion of Homosexuality.

And Allaah knows best.

Annonymous Coward #fundie fstdt.com

Here's another one. God ordered the destruction of sixty cities because in those cities dwelt the evil giants and their hybrid offspring. They worshipped Satan, and sacrificed their innocent little children to Molech. When children were sacrificed they were also eaten; in an attempt {or mockery} of Satan to counterfeit God's sacrifice of animals. In these festivals {which were also counterfeits of God's holy festivals}, they held sexual orgies, and mingled themselves with every kind of evil. When they cast their firstborn into the fires of Molech, they danced to loud music and drums, to drown out the screams of their little children who were being burnt alive. God wanted them out of the land that he promised to Abraham and his seed. And he knew if any of them were left, that eventually the Israelites would get involved in their pagan rituals and sacrifice.

However, against God's instructions, the Israelites made covenants with some of the kings of that land, that they would not take their cities nor kill their inhabitants. And the very thing God said would happen, happened. The Israelite ten tribes, that had broken away from the other two tribe, soon took up the ways of the heathen, and were sacrificing their own little children to Molech. They were cast out of Canaan and carried away by the Assyrians.

Then the tribes of Judah and Benjamin {and half tribe of Levi} also fell into the worship of demon gods; joining in their abominable festivals and sacrificing their children. They too met with the same fate of the other ten tribes, and God became very angry with them, and he came down in a chariot, powered by the cherubim, and sent Ezekiel to pronounce judgment upon them, You can read about this in the book of Ezekiel, chapters 1 through 17.

The killing of those Canaanites was a mercy killing, their children would have grown up practicing that Satanic religion, and thousands of children would have died in the agony in the fires of Molech. YOU SIR AND EVERYBODY ELSE NEED TO READ THE WHOLE CONTEXTS! NOT JUST A VERSE!

Anonymous Coward #fundie godlikeproductions.com

vegans are closer to God - why meat eaters (the ungodly) see them as pompous

Vegans:
- being higher up on the sidereal food chain, having chosen to align with energy renewal that is more directly connected with God's source
- their DNA vibrating at a higher, lighter frequency - easily integrating the simple light geometry of fruits and vegetables directly into their open pineal glands and kundalini channels
- free of the common crisis found running rampant in the cellular reproduction attempts of the man who continues to consume the dead flesh and blood of once walking and speaking beings. free of demons.
- free of chronic gastrointestinal inflammation caused from the acidic condition of rotting flesh in the intestines, and free from having to pass uric acid, lactate, lesion-prone, hormone loaded, rotting "meat" (whatever the fuck "meat" is these days) through their asshole on a daily basis.

.. would likely be seen as "pompous" to an angry, bacon-eating asshole. The vegan seems condescending to the asshole, because technically the vegan is condescending and lives in a higher dimension of existence. It is not a negative thing to the vegan, the vegan would likely welcome the asshole in for a bean pie, whereas the asshole would just spew at the vegan for being skinny or gay. The Breatharian would seem condescending to the vegan if the vegan still had negative ego projections (more of a meat-existence program), but it's all good to the vegan if one wants to just live on air. Of course the herniated bacon eating asshole just wants to tell the vegan and breatharian to fuck off from their lower state and condition of being.

There is no problem as far as I am concerned. Things all just going along according to where people are at in life. Breatharians, vegans, and bacon-eating assholes all just getting along, singing campfire songs and passing on the all-beef hot dogs or vegan marshmallow smore's.

William Grimes #fundie conservatism.referata.com

Sermon 5: Giving Up Childish Things
By Rev. William H. Grimes
Let's take some time to talk about 1 Corinthians 13:11 today. It says "When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things." This is a particular favorite verse of Bro. James Wilson, so I thought I'd take some time to preach on it.
Here at New Testament Baptist Church, we don't mind holy fun. Staying up late and drinking coffee and having desserts in fellowship with other believers is fine. However, we don't condone sinful "fun" like alcohol, dancing, and lewd comments and actions. This corrupt society and so-called "Christians" partake of these things. Can you tell me why grown adults get drunk and urinate outside and make jokes about it? The Bible even says that " And it came to pass, when he began to reign, as soon as he sat on his throne, that he slew all the house of Baasha: he left him not one that pisseth against a wall, neither of his kinsfolks, nor of his friends." in 1 Kings 16:11. CHILDREN URINATE OUTSIDE AND SPEAK GIBBERISH! WHY DO ADULTS WHO ARE SUPPOSED TO BE MATURE GO AND GET DRUNK OF STRONG DRINK AND DO THE SAME THING?! PUT AWAY CHILDISH THINGS AND FIND A TOILET AND SOCIALIZE SOBER! HAVE A BIBLE STUDY! STOP GOING TO PUBS AND ACTING LIKE IMMATURE COLLEGE STUDENTS! GOD HATETH STRONG DRINK! DRINK WATER!!!!!!!! BE MATURE AND SHOW SOME RESPECT FOR YOURSELF!
A common problem with marriages these days is that women are neglected while men salivate over sports and video games and they consume strong drink with their buddies! Think they're all manly when their wives are over there lonely! You were already weak enough that you succumbed to your lust and married to avoid fornication! Why are you now neglecting your wife for childish garbage? Kids play sports and video games! PUT AWAY CHILDISH THINGS AND PUT ON THE WHOLE ARMOR OF GOD! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Women can't stop gossiping about others! 30 year old women are in the office gossiping about others like immature catty high school yuppies! An abomination unto the Lord is someone who IS A BUSYBODY AND CANNOT PUT AWAY CHILDISH THINGS AND PUT ON THE WHOLE ARMOR OF GOD!!!!!!!!!
PEOPLE WONDER WHY SOCIETY HAS DENIGRATED TO THE POINT THAT OUR PRESIDENT IS A CREEPY OLD PERVERT WHO CANNOT PUT AWAY CHILDISH THINGS AND HAD BRAGGED ABOUT UNRIGHTEOUS GENITAL GRABBING AND RATES WOMEN BASED UPON THEIR PHYSICAL APPEARANCES LIKE AN IMMATURE RANDY MIDDLE SCHOOL BOY! WHAT A SIMPLETON! GOD HATETH AMERICA BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT PASSES OFF AS A CHRISTIAN IN THIS CORRUPT SOCIETY! PORNOGRAPHY IS ILLEGAL AND OBSCENE BUT IT REMAINS ONLINE! GROWN MEN PLAY SPORTS AND VIDEO GAMES AND WATCH CARTOONS! WHEN ARE WE GOING TO PUT AWAY CHILDISH THINGS AND HAVE A GROWN UP SOCIETY THAT IS MATURE AND GODLY? IT NEEDS TO START NOW!!!!!!!!! God's people said AMEN!

unknown #fundie shoutingfromtherooftop.com

In Egypt leopard skins were worn by the pagan priests. Egyptian priests wearing leopard skins could be found walking behind the apis bull in sacred processions. Check Egyptian history. In Egypt cats were also worshipped. Bast (Bastet, Ubasti) was the Egyptian cat goddess. God’s animals are special; however, they are not to be worshipped or taken out of context. Today, though not necessarily in sacred processions, the leopard skin design (pattern)continues to be taken out of context in any way. The leopard skin design is being marketed as the essence of seduction. For instance, many undergarments are being made in the leopard skin design. One very popular lingerie company even placed a full size poster in their window displaying their leopard skin undergarments with the woman who modeled for them wearing whiskers and cat ears with her body painted like a leopard. This is not a new concept. Cats are many times used to portray seduction.

It has been my experience that many people who struggle to overcome seduction will usually have their bedrooms covered in the leopard skin design. Some of the people that are captivated by this pattern will even mimic cat like behavior during sexual relations. Using the leopard design as a symbol of sensuality is taking God’s original creation out of context and the result is sexual bondage. In an effort to destroy man, who is made in God’s image, Satan and his evil spirits are trying to tempt people to mimic animals. Through the false worship of yoga, Shamanism, and other methods people are attempting to unite with or transform themselves into animals, which is an abomination! Satan will use any means to try and undermine God’s people, including using images of God’s creatures (animals). Why wouldn’t Satan try and use animals; after all, three of his four faces are animal likenesses! See Ezekiel 28:12-15 for confirmation that Satan (Lucifer) was created as a cherub, and see Ezekiel Chapters 1 & 10 for cherub description. Also, scripture describes the Satanic beast in both Daniel and Revelation as RESEMBLING A LEOPARD. Daniel 7:6: After this I beheld, and lo another, like a leopard, which had upon the back of it four wings of a fowl; the beast had also four heads; and dominion was given to it. Revelation 13:2: And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him power, and his seat, and great authority.

Westboro Baptist Church #fundie jewskilledjesus.com

Jews have a very long history of being either fags or fag enablers

The Jews have a long rich history of being fags and fag enablers (theses are the only two choices amongst the naughty figs today). The events of Judges 19, 20 and 21 are startling. A Levite had a concubine; the men of Benjamin wanted to rape him; they settled for sodomizing the concubine to death. This set in motion a bloody civil war between the tribe of Benjamin and the other 11 tribes that resulted in the near annihilation of the tribe of Benjamin! The mercies of the Lord are the only thing that kept them from being utterly destroyed. They kicked off a savage devastating war for the great cause of … wait for it … anal copulation!

When one of the rare good kings, King Josiah, set about to get rid of the idolatrous filth of the Jews, he had to do this: And he brake down the houses of the sodomites, that were by the house of the LORD, where the women wove hangings for the grove, 2 Kings 23:7.

The Torah is clear about fags:
Leviticus 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.
Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

“What!” the rabid Jew splutters, “You are saying gay people should get the death penalty!” Yes, rebellious raging reprobate Jew; that’s the standard of God and that’s the standard of your Torah; and you have a theocracy in Israel which is justified only if you are following the good statutes given you by God. (And they’re not gay; they’re contentious cruel filthy miserable smelly rotten brutes – like you! Did I mention fags are Jews and Jews are fags? Read Romans 1 and see if you don’t notice your reflection in that mirror, contrary naughty fig Jews!) Take your squally quarrel up with God; that’s his standard! Yet knowing that is God’s standard because that was part of the oracles delivered to you, you aggressively pursue all things fag, the loudest voice on this earth today for the fags! With a great multiplication of disingenuous slippery deceitful words you Jews have spent way more of your years since your existence supporting and engaging in sodomy, than not. Yet these words from God’s law are too plain and the lying whore rabbis simply can’t wash them away.

Today Israel is engaged in a campaign to try to turn the world against Iran – and really anyone else who they perceive won’t let them have their disobedient way in all things. Part of this campaign is to target fags so they can get them on their side with their loud violent protesting voice. They play it like this: You poor fags have been mistreated; so you should come and help us violently oppose anyone who won’t bow down and kiss our backside. The fags lap it up. Jews are fags; fags are Jews! Check out this quote from a story at www.haaretz.com:

The new campaign, to be overseen by the Foreign Ministry, aims to appeal to people who are less concerned with Iran's nuclear aspirations and more fearful of its human rights abuses and mistreatment of minorities, including the gay and lesbian community.

The campaign plans to recruit the international gay community, which Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad dismissed in 2007 when he said there were no homosexuals living in his country.

The campaign will also reach out to Jewish groups who want to bring more attention to Ahmadinejad's Holocaust denial and some members of the Iranian regime's anti-Semitic and anti-Zionist views. (http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1079589.html.)

Isn’t that just precious? GAG! Fags are Jews; Jews are fags. It’s as if they had never cracked the book of Ezekiel, let alone read the words of Ezekiel 16. Ezekiel the Jew was preaching these words to you hard-hearted bastards in captivity. Hello; God was punishing you disobedient Jews! One of the reasons you Jews have gotten yourselves in so much trouble with God is because you refuse to talk about Sodom – take the lesson of Sodom; remember what Sodom did; and don’t do what Sodom and the other heathen nations did! You were supposed to cast out their idols; root them out; get rid of them. Instead you turned them into your gods, enraging the Lord your God; and following directly on the heels of that you pursued your filthy manner of life, and became big fat sodomites!

David J Stewart #fundie #crackpot jesus-is-savior.com

Humanism is EVIL!

by David J. Stewart

“The pagan in Africa gets a piece of wood and builds him a god; the intellectual in the university gets his mind and builds himself a god.”
—Dr. Jack Hyles, from the sermon titled, How We Got Here

There is an evil under the sun lurking amongst mankind known as humanism..."An insane form of thinking that invades the human mind convincing it of it's superiority over God and His Word." I will repeat that definition of humanism again...

An insane form of thinking that invades the human mind convincing it of it's superiority over God and His Word.

Humanism is a direct enemy of Christianity and therefore Christ Himself. God hates humanism, but He surely loves the humanist. One must not confuse hatred against humanism with the love of God. As Christians, we are to love all people of all races of all nations. However, we are to hate the damnable heresies and evils that destroy the same people.

The Bible is God's Word. The King James Bible is the inerrant, infallible, preserved, eternal Word of God. Whether the heathen want to accept the Bible as God's Word or not is irrelevant...The Bible is God's Word.

"Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever." -1st Peter 1:23

"For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart." -Hebrews 4:12

To those who reject God's gift of eternal life by spitting on the gospel of Jesus Christ, the Bible says...

"In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:" -2nd Thessalonians 1:8

Hell will be hot my friend. God doesn't want ANYONE to burn in hell, but the Bible is clear that ONLY those who go through Jesus Christ will make it to heaven...

"Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me." -John 14:6

This is the major problem with HUMANISM...it does not recognize God at all. I was doing some research online about Humanism and ran across the Council for Secular Humanism website. The particular article I read was 10 Myths About Secular Humanism by Matt Cherry and Molleen Matsumura taken from Free Inquiry magazine, Volume 18, Number 1. I would like to comment on a few of their statements.

Article quote: "Yes, it's true that secular humanists don't believe in a God or an afterlife...Secular humanists plead guilty as charged to these and many other claims that show the genuine and radical differences between humanism and revealed religion. In fact, we are proud of these differences, and want to see them publicized and debated."
My response: Anyone who has faith in God should run as far away from secular humanism as they can. Frankenstein would be welcome in my home before I'd let Secular Humanism in the front door. The humanists openly admit that they DON'T believe in God, heaven, or hell. This is to their own demise. It is such atheistic godless-minded thinkers who are controlling the curriculum of the public school system in America. I am unalterably opposed to the heathen public school system. Humanism is of the devil because it denies Almighty God, the Lord Jesus Christ.
2. Article quote: "Humanists also emphasize the importance of self-determination - the right of individuals to control their own lives, so long as they do not harm others. Secular humanists, therefore, often promote causes where traditional religion obstructs the right to self-determination, for example, freedom of choice regarding sexual relationships, reproduction, and voluntary euthanasia"

My response: The above quote is clear, the Humanists are working in direct opposition to the New Testament church. Humanists openly PROMOTE a "Do-Your-Own-Thing" type mentality. Do you know that is exactly what the Church of Satan believes? They believe that you can do anything you want, just as long as no one else gets hurt. However, that is NOT what the Bible teaches. We are commanded in the Bible to OBEY GOD rather than men (Acts 5:29). How can Humanists obey God when they deny that He even exists? Without faith it is impossible to please God (Hebrews 11:6).

Furthermore, abortion is murder and destroys a little babies' life. Is this not hurting someone? The Humanists and Satanists speak out of both sides of their mouth. The Homosexual community doesn't want the public to know the truth (the statistics) about their "freedom of choice" regarding Sodomy. There is a link between pedophilia and homosexuality. New York just opened the countries first exclusively homosexual high school...talk about discrimination. If someone started an ONLY white kids school, the public would go nuts. I guess being homosexual gives them special rights which allows for discrimination. The days are growing evil friend. Are you right with God in your heart? Have you accepted Jesus Christ as your personal Saviour? If not, please do so right now before it is too late. You have no guarantee of tomorrow (Proverb 27:1).

3. Article quote: "On the other hand, liberal Christianity has been deeply influenced by humanism."

My response: There is NO such animal as "liberal Christianity," just as there is no such thing as "Christian rock" music. Either it's Christian or it's heathen. It's sickening to hear professed "Christians" speak of "Theistic Evolution." The Bible teaches that God created the world as we know it in six days and then rested on the seventh. It is unbelief in God's Word to teach or believe anything else. Most people are woefully ignorant of what it means to be a Christian. Even false religions such as godless Catholicism call themselves "Christians." They are reprobates! I do not hate Catholics; on the contrary, I love them. I hate Catholicism because it is a damnable heresy totally out of line with the Bible. The Bible is God's Word, listen to the Bible NOT the dope in Rome.

4. Article quote: "But secular humanism is not a religion and humanists don't worship anything. We are far too realistic to worship humanity. While we recognize that all human beings have the potential to do good, we also realize that the potential exists for acts of great evil. Humanity's constant challenge is to understand itself and improve itself."

My response: Romans 1:25 says, "Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen." It is a very dangerous thing to re-create God in our own image. Mankind was created in God's image and we must not CHANGE that truth into a lie. When I think of the humanists, I think of a Proverb in the Bible (Proverb 19:3) which says, "The foolishness of man perverteth his way: and his heart fretteth against the LORD. Secular humanism is utter foolishness and an abomination before the Lord God. The Bible teaches that God created mankind, which means that God has the master blueprints (the instructions). The Bible is God's instruction Book to mankind teaching us how to live and to treat each other. If we neglect God's truth, then we are like an idiot headed for a waterfall without a paddle because he deliberately threw the paddles overboard. Proverb 20:24 teaches, "Man's goings are of the LORD; how can a man then understand his own way?" Apart from God's Word, there is no understanding! Proverb 28:5 declares, "Evil men understand not judgment: but they that seek the LORD understand all things."

5. Article quote: "Secular humanism is a naturalistic, nonreligious worldview."

My response: I think I'll let God answer this one for Himself...

"But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man. For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ." -1st Corinthians s 2:14-16

Humanism is horribly evil because it DENIES God. Humanism is evil because it seeks answers WITHOUT God. Humanism is evil because it does NOT recognize the Bible as God's Word. Humanism is wicked because it promotes the acceptance of homosexuality, witchcraft, abortion, assisted suicide, and every other evil act (as long as they think no one is being hurt). I got news for you Mr. and Ms. Humanist...babies get hurt when you suck their heads off, cut them into bit sizes pieces or burn them alive in acids. Someone is definitely getting hurt. To you it's just "freedom of choice" regarding reproduction. Freedom of choice? For who? The child certainly has no choice.

Jesus Christ is the way #fundie godlikeproductions.com

I don't know about about William, but there is no doubt that Obama is the 7th king of the mystery babylon lineage. The 8th is yet to come. How that happens will be a mystery to those who are immersed in the curse.

The curse is to believe in the lie of reincarnation. There are seven spirits before the throne and look at what Christ said. From bible hub.com Matthew 12:Return of an Unclean Spirit
…44"Then it says, 'I will return to my house from which I came'; and when it comes, it finds it unoccupied, swept, and put in order. 45"Then it goes and takes along with it seven other spirits more wicked than itself, and they go in and live there; and the last state of that man becomes worse than the first. That is the way it will also be with this evil generation."

Now look at what the resurrected Christ did with Mary Magdalene. From bible hub.com Mark 16:Jesus Appears to Mary Magdalene
9Now after He had risen early on the first day of the week, He first appeared to Mary Magdalene, from whom He had cast out seven demons. 10She went and reported to those who had been with Him, while they were mourning and weeping.…

We are to be reborn in water and spirit through Christ. The shackles of a flesh and blood existence can only be removed by Jesus Christ. We are made anew and given a Book of Life name. Here is what happens if you do not receive a Book of Life name. From bible hub.com Revelation 13:The Beast Out of the Sea
…7It was also given to him to make war with the saints and to overcome them, and authority over every tribe and people and tongue and nation was given to him. 8All who dwell on the earth will worship him, everyone whose name has not been written from the foundation of the world in the book of life of the Lamb who has been slain. 9If anyone has an ear, let him hear.…

In the coming parousia, the world is going to awaken to eternal life through Christ or eternal damnation. Those who follow the spirit of sodom and egypt are doomed.The akashic records of this cursed 666 matrix will try to be validated by the false deities on earth. The 8th process for darkness is the unholy resurrection of the false sun god, apollo or apollyon. The end product is the son of satan.

satan fell to earth as samayaza per the book of Enoch. He was cast to mount zaphon which is also known as mont aqraa. Hence you have the acropolis. The big lie will be the merging of greek mythology with egyptology to produce a visible demonic hierarchy that rules the earth for 42 months as the gates of hell prevail.

Revelation 2 tells you that satan's throne is at pergamum which is in Turkey. The flag over the country is for islam which is poised to be brought into and consumed by the biggest lie of all time which is satan. The five pointed star is for lucifer. It represents the false morning star which is Venus. Venus returns to its original place in the celestial sky exactly every 40 years. In that 40 years, the Earth aligns with Venus and the Sun 5 times and a perfect pentagram is formed. Note that satanists use the goat of mendes (the beast) in the middle of an inverted pentagram which is opposite of love which is lust. This 40 year period is used throughout the bible. In fact, all of those in the exodus who were born in egypt were not allowed to see the Promised Land. Instead, there were purged from the ranks in a 40 year wandering process.

From bible hub.com Revelation 11:8And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified. So, you see what prevails in spirit over Jerusalem during the 42 month reign of the antichrist. The purging process of 40 years applies to root source. Look at what God says about egypt. From bible hub.com Ezekiel 29:The Desolation of Egypt
…11"A man's foot will not pass through it, and the foot of a beast will not pass through it, and it will not be inhabited for forty years. 12"So I will make the land of Egypt a desolation in the midst of desolated lands. And her cities, in the midst of cities that are laid waste, will be desolate forty years; and I will scatter the Egyptians among the nations and disperse them among the lands." 13'For thus says the Lord GOD, "At the end of forty years I will gather the Egyptians from the peoples among whom they were scattered.…

For the spirit of egypt and sodom to be drawn back to its source for total destruction by the one, true God, then it must prevail over the final evil, adulterous generation. In the final piece of the mystery babylon puzzle look for what has grown from the weeds (spiritual egypt) to be destroyed by prophecy. From Jeremiah 46:19Pack your belongings for exile, you who live in Egypt, for Memphis will be laid waste and lie in ruins without inhabitant. This applies to current day, and many will ask how. Christ said you shall know a tree by the fruit it bears. If it is of the mystery babylon tree then it bears mystery babylon fruit.

The 90th degree of egyptian masonry is the rite of memphis. It has been established that the 666 coded geographical coordinates are of babylonian design. Memphis, TN is on 90WLon. It will follow the same fate as the New Madrid faultline wakes up. If you use the Washington Monument as the center of the egyptian masonry compass then 666 statute miles lands slightly east of Cairo, Illinois (Sion backwards and "Ill" both ways). It is known as little egypt. The Ohio River converges with the Mississippi which says I am Isis and pi both ways. The river is mentioned here. From bible hub.com Revelation 12: 15And the serpent poured water like a river out of his mouth after the woman, so that he might cause her to be swept away with the flood.

Many people ask why there are so many tornadoes and hurricanes that gravitate towards the Bible Belt of the US. First understand this. The chosen are those chosen spiritually. Without accepting Christ as a Savior, no one including the natural Jew can reach Heaven. Those who have accepted Christ as Savior are really the chosen ones which is the church, the bride.

What the final piece of the puzzle has created in clear view as the US is a place where both blessing and curse exist. Spiritual egypt (the weeds) has been allowed to grow with the spiritual wheat which is the true Israel. These two are soon to be separated. As a result of the US being in part spiritual Israel and particularly in the bible belt, the judgment comes quick and first. The spiral clouds of destruction are cast into the natural as the scales of justice and judgment are tipped.

When Israel encountered babylonian captivity during Jeremiah's time the ark of the covenant was removed by the help of an egyptian princess and first carried to Tara, Ireland then on to the US. It is now in ARK-ansas (ansa means rings of saturn).

Miles Williams Mathis #conspiracy mileswmathis.com

[From "The Glen Ridge Rape was Faked"]

This event allegedly happened in 1989, before the golden age of hoaxes, so we find no exposés of it on Youtube. I could find nothing off Youtube, either, but didn't look past the first pages on a search. So I guess I am in virgin territory here, so to speak. Just where I like to be. The first thing we find is that Glen Ridge is a very wealthy community in New Jersey where the median family income is above $175,000. Although the population is only about 7,000, Glen Ridge has a long list of notable people, including Buzz Aldrin, Tom Cruise, Edward Mitchell, Cindy Sherman, Kerry Bishé, Alison Stewart, Don van Natta, and internet hoax artist Mike Z. Tom Cruise graduated from the high school at which the event occurred, although he was of course there about a decade earlier. This leads us to the discovery Cruise's father worked as a defense consultant for the Canadian military. In other places this is scrubbed by telling us Cruise's father was an electrical engineer, but Wikipedia admits his father worked for the Canadian military as a defense consultant. The family moved around a lot, which leads us to ask what a defense consultant was doing in Glen Ridge in 1980. There must be a defense facility in the area we aren't told about. Perhaps it is the Picatinny Arsenal about 15 miles to the west. According to their website, they supply all conventional ammunition for the armed forces and 90% of the Army's lethality. Wow.

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The next thing we learn is that one of the boys initially charged with rape in the Glen Ridge case was Richard Corcoran, Jr., son of Glen Ridge's Chief of Detectives. This is curious, is it not? That the Chief of Detectives in this small community would find his own son involved in the event? Well, it gets curiouser and curiouser. Lieutenant Richard Corcoran, Sr., was in control of investigating the case. We are told he assigned Detective Sheila Byron to the case, but they admit it was his decision who to assign, which means he was in ultimate control of the investigation. In 1994 the prosecution against Corcoran Jr. was dropped for no good reason. The reason given was that the victim's family no longer wished to press charges, but five years on that makes no sense. Why had the prosecution of Corcoran not proceeded long before that? Perhaps because Corcoran Sr. had stalled the investigation? Or was it to allow Corcoran Jr. to join Special Forces?

That's right, this same Richard Corcoran, Jr. applied to Special Forces and was accepted. How does that work? Is it the custom of Special Forces to admit young men indicted on nine counts of rape and torture? You will say he is innocent until proven guilty, but given that all these young men were found guilty in the press long before their actual convictions, that claim doesn't hold much water. Remember, Corcoran was accused by the victim herself in courtroom testimony of actually wielding the stick that penetrated her, so it is difficult to understand how he could not be one of the major players here or how he could not be one of the first ones taken to trial. Seeing that according to the mainstream story, Corcoran appears to have skated based on good fortune more than anything—or more likely the influence of his family—it is somewhat astonishing to find Special Forces considering him a good candidate. I have had friends go into Special Forces, and they background check you all the way to
Mars and back. The Glen Ridge event was a huge national story, so there is no way they overlooked it. I suspect they knew something about the event we didn't: namely, that it never happened.

What you need to know here is that Special Forces is closely linked to the CIA, since both their operations include covert ops and various other intelligence operations. Special Forces historically came out of the OSS and CIA. So to see Corcoran Jr. accepted into Special Forces after the Glen Ridge event is a huge red flag.

But the mystery doesn't quit, since in 2005 this same Richard Corcoran allegedly killed himself in an attempted murder/suicide near Ft. Bragg. To get to that story requires you go to the Wayback Machine, since it has been memoryholed by The New York Daily News and the Associated Press. We also learn from that story that Corcoran won a $200,000 settlement from Essex County in 1997 for malicious prosecution. That's right, not only did Corcoran mysteriously dodge prosecution despite testimony from the victim that he wielded the stick that penetrated her, he actually became $200,000 richer from the event. Given all that, do you believe this Richard Corcoran really died in 2005 at age 34? I don't.

What I suspect is that Corcoran Sr., the Chief Detective of Glen Ridge, also had a military or Intelligence background, and that he was linked somehow to a nearby base. The event would then have been coordinated from there. That is the way it is normally done. Curiously, a people search on this Richard Corcoran pulls up nothing at Intelius. There is no Richard E. Corcoran of his age listed as ever having lived in New Jersey or Glen Ridge. So Intelius has been scrubbed. If we go to InstantCheckmate, we do find a listing for him. He is 69 and has the same relatives as his son. He is also listed as having lived in Henderson, Nevada. This is curious in the extreme, seeing that Nevada is
famous for its secret military bases—and not just Area51. There is a large area south of Henderson blacked out in a Google Search. Beyond that, an unmarked base nearby was recently discovered by locals, making Youtube in 2013. If we take that info back to Intelius, we find that his son of the same name has also lived in Henderson.

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The author, Bernard Lefkowitz, couldn't find any interest in the book from big New York publishers and had to settle for the University of Nebraska Press. In 2006, Steven Hart from Opinion Mill asked him about this, finding it odd that such a high profile case with so much publicity wouldn't interest a major publisher. No good answer was forthcoming. But I have a suggestion. University of Nebraska is in Lincoln and also has a presence in nearby Omaha. Offutt Air Force Base is between the two cities.
This is headquarters of the US Strategic Command, but in 1989 it also was headquarters of the Strategic Intelligence Wing. So it is possible Intelligence has its hand in U. of Nebraska Press. No, make that probable. Intelligence has its hand in all US publishing.

Lefkowitz is a curious character as well, having taught journalism at Columbia and also having been an assistant editor at the New York Post. The Post was run by the granddaughter of Jakob Schiff until 1976, when it was bought by Rupert Murdoch. Lefkowitz had been in the Peace Corps. All these things are potential red flags, as we know. But it is the Jewish connection that is most curious. He is Jewish of course, and it turns out the University of Nebraska Press has strong connections to the Jewish community, although we aren't sure why or how. It has a collaborative arrangement with the Jewish Publication Society.

A movie was then made based on Lefkowitz' book. See the under title photo above. Usually, when you see a movie made from a book like this—one based on a sensational headline story—that is more indication the event was faked. Hollywood was an Intelligence creation from day one, and one of the reasons it was created was to make films to back up their propaganda projects. First they run a fake event, then they hire someone to back it up with a book, then they make a film from the book. Each time the story is retold, another layer of lies and emotions can be added.

Now let's look at the event itself. The victim was said to be a mentally retarded girl, but with more research we discover she was co-captain of the high school's junior varsity softball team. Since captain is normally an elected position, it is strange to find a challenged girl in this position. It is also claimed she had been raped six years earlier. She would have been only 11 then. She is now said to work in a department store in that same town. Again, this would be impossible given her IQ of either 49 or 63.

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In that one report, we get two major clues. Not everyone on the ground believed the event. Not even the girls who attended the high school believed it. But we rarely heard from them. And why didn't they believe it? Because it wasn't believable. Why would the handsome quarterback rape a retarded girl? He has his pick of dozens of hot girls, so why would he be interested in this retarded girl? The story makes no sense in dozens of basic ways. It is full of huge holes. That one hole was the first red flag that led me into this hoax.

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After being convicted of rape, Chris Archer and the Scherzers were allowed to remain free on bail while the case was appealed. Really? Is that how it works? None of them served time until 1997, eight years after the alleged crime. In a real event, it wouldn't happen that way. They don't let convicted rapists roam free while waiting for appeal. Why would they? Say one of these guys rapes again: well, the victim can then sue the county for gross negligence and huge damages. It doesn't happen.

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They went to a “campus-style youth correctional facility”. Although the Scherzers were 18 at the time of the crime, the judge classified them as “young-adult offenders”. You may wish to compare this to what you are told in other high-profile crimes, where 14 and 15 year olds are tried as adults. Kyle Scherzer was said to have been released in 1999, after serving 2 years of a 7-year sentence. The other two, said to have been sentenced to 15 years, are said to have served only 4 and 5 years. My guess is the young men weren't to be found at this youth correctional facility at all.

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Of course the appeals court finding that the girl was both of age and complied with the acts was never reported in the mainstream or academic press. No one on either side of any debate ever mentions that fact.

Most will now admit this event is suspicious in the extreme, but they will say, “OK, maybe it was manufactured by CIA or someone, but why?” Why would anyone want to fake a horrible rape of a retarded girl by good-looking football players? Answer: as part of the longterm project to demonize men and boys, and especially attractive ones. See my paper on Ted Bundy, where I try to explain it for the first time. Or see the books of Christina Hoff Sommers, such as Who Stole Feminism? and The War on Boys. A resident scholar with the American Enterprise Institute, Sommers admits this has happened and is happening, and she outs many of the academic projects of the past 30 years. Unfortunately, after outing these projects, she pursues her own project of demonizing men and boys, though in a slightly more subtle way. I have recently outed her, and this paper was a spin-off of my close analysis of her books and bio. She uses the Glen Ridge case to support her own analysis of boys and men, which forced me to take this closer look at it. Of course she never questions the mainstream story, only giving us a 3-page retelling it, with no mention of the appeals court finding.

But why demonize men and boys? To separate the sexes. It has been a long term goal of the billionaire industrialists and Plutocrats to drive a wedge between the sexes. Why? Because this creates trauma, and trauma increases all sales. Scared and traumatized people buy more stuff, period. Happy people in good relationships are lousy consumers.

cunninglamb #fundie rr-bb.com

The US Constitution has been undermined and American society/culture in general, demoralized. Gay marraige and abortion will become a federal mandates. Our liberty is eroding at breakneck speed. We are seeing and hearing the shadows of extreme anti-christ fascism that is rising in this nation. The parrallels between the Weimar republic of Germany and America are obvious. Germany murdered 6 million in their holocaust. America has now murdered over 49 million in a holocaust fueled by lust and pornography and a so called "right".

When America reaches 50 million aborted babies we will see God's judgement poured out on this nation. Judgement will fall on this nation for it's national sin of the shedding of innocent blood. God judged Sodom because of the "cries". Can you hear the babies crying out? 50 million are crying out and Jesus Christ hears everyone of them. The blood of 50 million babies are crying out for vengeance. Every Christians faith will be tested and many will faint. This fascism will be more evil than Nazi Germany. Lord Jesus, come quickly!

She Boon Gibbons #racist niggermania.net

So I went on a trip to visit some friends in Portland, OR this weekend. Was pretty much able to keep it 'homogeneous' for 99% of my trip. The coontact occurred when we went to an outdoor concert in nearby Edgefield. I knew 4 of the people and they were all human. Unfortunately, diversity reared its nappy head as a friend of a friend of my friend had brought three 'ookers' along.

Well, it didn't take long for everyone's time to be ruined. I unfortunately didn't have a car, so I was stuck, but stayed as far away from the beasts as possible, head on a swivel. But for the grace of God, there was no TNB inflicted on my group of friends, such as gun play, rapes, etc.

We were able to bolt pretty quickly, which sucked because we wanted to enjoy the show, but as the 4 of us walked to the car we were lamenting why the other person (not in our party but showed up separately, meeting us there) brought the farm equipment. One of the women (little older, maybe 45-50) in our group came out and said, "What the hell did they think was gonna happen when they brought niggers?" When we got to the bar later, I bought all her rounds the rest of the night. So the story at least had a happy ending - I met another niggermaniac in the flesh.....

Nemo Garuda #conspiracy absolutoracle.com

Why We Remain Mostly Absent
from Earth People Like Yourself
Channelled Transmission by Nemo Garuda

We actually are a valuable presence in your existence, but of course do not take that to mean we will conform to any demand, requirement or expectation of yours. In fact, we are more valuable precisely by not conforming to your demand, requirement or expectation.

Try to understand that We (but not all) Extraterrestrial Intelligences are more willing and eager to make a viable connection with truly authentic and intelligent individuals on Earth than you like to acknowledge when you are having a stubborn reaction about Our apparent absence. You should not take your particular reaction or attitude about Us to be the perfect index of potential higher evolutionary Alien Contact. Try therefore to understand Our perspective on all this.

The vast majority of potentially contactable individuals of your shallow, confused and heedless humanity remain neurotic and untelepathic, which for Us translates into fifty of your Solar years as a growing sense of futility among Us. We therefore cheerfully confess an increasing tendency to withdraw and watch rather than to offer contact opportunities. We are learning greater patience toward such as yourself.

From Our perspective, you tend to have wrong reactions and attitudes toward Extraterrestrial Intelligent Presence (E.T.I.P.) because you allow yourself to be pushed into anger and fear about the false powers, false leaders and false humanity of the false world you seem to be forced to dwell in. Therefore, we seem to be irrelevant if we do not offer immediate escape to a better planet or some immediate material help or empowerment to your beleaguered plight on Earth. Instead of tuning-in to our genuinely helpful presence, which could accelerate your cosmic learning ability, you tend to blank Us out and cultivate disappointment in Us, thus missing the point completely. By projecting cruel neglect into Us, you seem to justify your inability to learn.

Are you ready now to try a new approach to Learning From Us? When, for instance, was the last time you decided to listen deeply and extensively to our more subtle but real transmissions to you from beyond the surrounding selfish stupidity and heedless complacency of your humanity of Earth? When was the last time you arose into a Cosmic Perspective on everything?

Another consideration you have so far failed to detect about the physical Universe is that the vast majority of people on the virtually infinite number of inhabited planets are amazingly bourgeoisie middle-class in their attitudes, which makes the situation on Earth just an occasional annoying news item, just the way you feel about Somalia. The average "Alien” is only slightly more intelligent and evolutionary than Earth-people. Zillions of cities in your Galaxy, for instance, could not care less about what happens to your deluded and violent humanity in your virtually destroyed planetary environment. For most of Extraterrestrial Intelligence, trying to rescue humanity would quickly become a “Blackhawk Down” scenario. Try to understand this relativity. Galactic civilization sees poor prospects of assimilating Earth humanity into the whole. Most would vote for Earth to remain a quarantined insane-asylum. Most Extraterrestrials prefer to ignore the Earth Crisis and just carry on with their own sex-life and attempts at self-improvement through study, exploration and something like Yoga. Even the majority of Our superhuman adepts and Time-spanners are not dizzy with compassion toward Earthlings! Only a few of Us feel a calling to help you out where possible. It is a very special calling, just for a few, which is all that is presently necessary. Try to understand this.

Ultimately, the issue is about how you came to arise as a human being on Earth at all. This is about contradictory desires and aspirations (will-tendencies) in your reincarnational causal body beyond your emotional mind and physical body. In this respect, any Timespace Universe is a Mystery School of the Will. You, like all causal beings everywhere, are investigating the mystery of will-power, of the hidden desires of the heart. Through greater self-discovery or heart-searching, you learn slowly to become more useful to yourself, to become more clear about the right theories of cosmic and human evolution, including the right theories of accelerated human learning (Zen, Sufi Way) and development (Shamanism, Yoga). As the Mystery of Will (Intent) gets cleared up, you find yourself becoming inwardly freer and stronger; you make better efforts and more often. You give yourself the great gift of positive, cheerful progress. You stop cultivating self-pity or discouragement over the Earth being your chosen starting point. You accept your own secret decision about all this and get on with it. It is then and only then that you begin to see Us in a real light, as well as seeing how We really see you.

We can help you learn. Do you want it?

Religious Fanatic #fundie forums.anglican.net

I was in the hospital recently or one of those places that do group therapy because I was taken in by authorities for expressing homocidal tendencies towards bishops and other Roman catholics who left me damaged and traumatized in the past. I tried contacting the reverend of our local Anglican church and after leaving a few messages, was ignored while pleaing for help in the hospital. I was also ignored today when I asked the secretary if she would tell him to call me when he came back. I have heard Catholics of any sort are cold and distant and most of them from my experiences (and from the testimonies I've read by others) are very insular. I feel neglected and unwanted and conflicted by all sorts of things that I want to ask them about. Both orthodox Anglican churches I have contacted have ignored me and are very difficult to get in touch with. This is entirely alien to my evangelical Protestant experiences, as these churches seem to leave us in the dust. I was told by a dissident Roman Catholic from Ireland (Cameron) that both RC and Anglican churches are very isolated from doing outreach or offering help like evangelical churches are. I am finding it difficult to believe these are real churches in any regard and it reinforces my longstanding prejudices against Catholicism of any sort.

John Galt #fundie moonbattery.com

[Re. a person whose girlfriend had an abortion.]

LOL! Hitler is proud of his little socialist. If he would kill his own child, he would have no issue throwing other children in the oven. You are a sick puppy. Hell, even the muzzie terror animals don't kill their unborn. Yall set a new low for humanity. Over 49 MILLION abortions since 1973 in the USofA. Wow, you telling me that children cannot get health care in the US. You are a fukin liar and a hypocrite yourself. If your child was alive, and didn't have health care insurance, you could go to the Health Department or any government assisted health clinic or hospital and it would be taken care of on the government tit. But your child didn't get that option,,, dit it?

Craig Weiler #fundie weilerpsiblog.wordpress.com

In my studies of psychic people I have come to understand that we are a minority group with the same pressures and problems of other minorities.

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The comparison of gays and psychic people is a useful one:

Like gays, psychic people have the option of hiding who they are from the general public. There are no physical features of psychic people to give them away and the only way for people to find out is if the psychic gives away the secret.

Psychic people are unfairly portrayed as incompetent and flaky, crazy and deluded. Much as gays had to deal with a psychiatric evaluation as "abnormal" at best and "sexually deviant" at worst in years past, psychics have had to deal with the same level of misunderstanding in the present. In the field of psychology, it is assumed that there is something wrong with us. As I pointed out earlier, the pejorative term "magical thinking" is tossed about.

Psychic ability has been pushed underground and off to the fringes for the most part, with high profile psychics facing intense criticism and ridicule from the fanatical atheist James Randi and the pseudo skeptical organization CSI.

Most professional psychics toil in obscurity in an unregulated industry dotted with incompetence and the occasional outright frauds. In the public's eyes, they all tend to get lumped together. Like many small businesses, most fail within a couple of years to get established and the psychics move on to more profitable professions. Some stick it out and go on to have successful, if unremarkable careers. Psychics are limited in where they can advertise; not every publication will take their money because of their fringe status.

Moving away from professional psychics, another area where psychics struggle, just like gays, is that they have to find health professionals friendly to them. Not just anyone will do. If a psychic person confides a psychic experience to a doctor, he/she does not want to come away with a handful of anti-psychotic medication. The doctor has to know the difference.

Similarly, psychics in need of therapy will often have to search for psychic friendly therapists who will calmly accept psychic ability and its presence in treatment.

Both gays and psychic people tend not to advertise who they are for fear of disapproval, waiting instead to find out "who's cool." It is all very isolating and mentally unhealthy.

Like gays, many psychics suffer from self-loathing due to non-acceptance by authority in our society. Many people keep their psychic abilities secret due to fear of losing their jobs or status or both. They don't want the "crazy" label.

Both have organizations pitted against them. Gays have the evangelical Christian churches trying to "pray away the gay" and psychics have JREF and CSI and their satellite skeptic groups trying to paint them as frauds or delusional. Both the Christian and the atheist organizations come from the standpoint that they are "helping."

Interestingly, both the fundamentalist Christian and skeptic organizations rely on pseudo-science, hypocrisy and double standards to achieve their goals; the difference being that skeptics have far more support from the scientific community at large. I forgot to add, evangelical Christians aren't exactly our friends; they think we're in league with the Devil or something. They do respect psychic ability though, so I suppose that's a positive of sorts.

The Ranger #fundie christiannews.net

That's because your short sighted you can't see past this temporary life to the eternal one Jim. We will all stand before a righteous judge. God will not be mocked that which a man sows is that which he shall reap. It does not matter where you believe it or not I warn you. You will be held accountable for your actions if not in this life certainly the next. Christ and him crucified for the world is your only escape 3" how can we escape, if we neglect so great salvation witch at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed unto us by them that heard him;" Hebrews 2:3. It's not over till its over. 7"Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth that shall he reap 8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting Galatians 6 : 7 - 8. I WARN YOU!

thescienceofapologetics #fundie thescienceofapologetics.tumblr.com

evidence for the resurrection

It’s Easter time once again! A Sunday that marks the single most pivotal point of Christianity. If you want to prove Christianity is a hoax, all you must do is illustrate how the resurrection was a facade. It is absolutely essential to our salvation that Christ conquered death, for if Jesus Christ did not rise from the dead our hope is lost. 1 Corinthians 15:14 likewise states, “And if Christ has not been raised, then our preaching is in vain and your faith is in vain.” Without the resurrection our belief is baseless, futile, unfounded, and foolish. So why is it we believe such an outlandish claim could actually happen, superseding the natural laws of earth? Here’s a few reasons…

The Bible is the most historically accurate ancient text in the world — When discussing the validity of history, it’s only reasonable to reference your source that has proven most reliable. The Bible is that source. No other record of ancient history has come CLOSE to matching the reliability of the Bible. If we say the Bible is untrustworthy, we must discard every other historical record as well because the Bible vastly surpasses every test of authenticity as no other book does. More on that here and here.

Yes, Jesus really died - Many people start off with the dispute that maybe Jesus wasn’t really dead. However, that neglects both the historical and circumstancial context. The Romans were masters at execution. They knew how to draw out suffering to the finest line between death and life, make it last for days on end. This was their art form. These men were proficient and practiced. Jesus was tortured, whipped with a scourge that often exposed bone and vital organs, tearing flesh from a body. Many people didn’t survive that alone. He was forced to carry a cross that could have weight up to 300lbs, and he crumpled under the weight, unable to bear it. Nails were driven through his wrist and through both his feet. Make note he would be unable to walk from the pain in his feet, his hands would be rendered useless. The way you hang on a cross causes death by asphyxiation, to breathe you had to push your self up with means grating your torn back against the wood and putting more pressure on the holes ripping your limbs. After Jesus died they speared his side to make certain he was dead and fluid came pouring out. The Romans checked thoroughly to make sure he was dead because they were shocked he died so quickly. He was bloated, swollen, and gored by death on a cross. Even if for arguments sake, Jesus was not yet dead, being in a tomb for three days would indisputably see to that. If blood loss didn’t kill him, infection certainly would. Additionally, Luke, one of eyewitnesses who recorded the events, was a doctor so his perspective is a notably authoritative one. (Luke 23-24).

The tomb was empty - There is no possible way Jesus, weakened to the point where the Roman masters of execution called his death, unable to use his hands or feet due to the spikes pounded into them, was able to roll away a MASSIVE boulder and over power two trained and able-bodied Roman soldiers. The idea that Jesus didn’t fully die on the cross and escaped the tomb is absurd. Furthermore, the guards stationed to prevent anyone from robbing the tomb and the Roman seal on the two-ton rock ensured that anyone who dared to even attempt to move it faced the death penalty themselves. If the guards themselves fell asleep they faced the same fate. There was a LOT at stake if Jesus’ body was taken, the Romans were taking no chances. Every other argument for the absence of Jesus’ body can quickly be dismantled by historical context and the circumstances by which these things took place.

It was prophesied - Isaiah talks about the particular circumstances of Jesus death, such as no bones would be broken, an unusual anomaly when it came to crucifixion. Jesus himself also foretells that he will rise within three days. Even smaller details like casting lots for His garments were spoken of hundreds of years before Jesus was born. Other prophesies like this show that Jesus’ death was no accident, God knew what He was doing. (Isaiah 52:13-53:12; John 18-20)

Eyewitness accounts - Jesus appeared to over 500 people after His resurrection, many of whom were alive at the time of the gospels being written and therefore could confirm or dispute their accuracy (1 Corinthians 15:6) Among those include the disciples, Mary Magdalene, and Paul the former murderer of Christians. The Bible records accounts of skeptism and unbelief, but they saw the scars on his hands, touched his solid flesh before them, heard his familiar voice, and they believed because of it. Paul became that which he initially DESPISED because of his encounter with Jesus Christ, that alone is a mind-blowing testimony. The man who hunted and killed Christians became a Christian who was willing to be tortured and killed because he so strongly believed in the saving death and resurrection of Jesus Christ.

The apostles went from hiding in extreme fear to preaching the gospel in the face of deadly persecution - When Jesus died the apostles went into hiding. They were TERRIFIED that the Romans, the other Jews, would come after them next. Yet, after Jesus appears, they’re fearlessly preaching the gospel out in open crowds of THOUSANDS. It’s a dramatic switch of perspective. To go from quivering fear to such emboldened confidence, surely seeing Jesus standing risen before you would give you that kind of intrepidation. There is little else to explain how these men were suddenly ready to risk everything after being afraid to admit they ever knew Jesus just days before.

Apostles willing to die for Jesus - Now some people say the apostles stole the body of Jesus to convince people to turn to Christianity. The Bible says that lie was started by the Romans in order to discredit the apostles. However, almost all of the apolstles died for preaching the gospel, and all of them were severely persecuted. Why would they exchange their lives, their health, their reputation, their livelihoods, their comfort for something they knew was a lie? It simply makes no sense. The only logical conclusion is that they believed Jesus was the resurrected Christ.

Appearing to a woman first was a dumb move - The testimony of a woman would not be as respected as than of a man in those times. If Jesus’ resurrection was a ruse, the logical thing to do would be to claim he was seen by a male dignitary of noble standing, not a woman who had been previously possessed by demons - a social blemish (Luke 8:2). “Unflattering” facts like this, the cowardis of the apolstles, their initial skeptism, not recognizing Jesus right away, etc. lend to the credit of the account because it demonstrates an accurate retelling, not a fabrication that was crafted to deceptively sway the masses into false belief.

Vision, hallucination unlikely due to number of witnesses and circumstances - Jesus didn’t appear to two people and then go back to Heaven. He appeared to over 500 in all sorts of different locations. People who weren’t looking for him, people who didn’t believe it was Him until they had proof. Proof so certain that they were no longer afraid, they were filled with unextinguishable hope. We must also realize the historical context of the time in which it took place. It’s much easier to fabricate this kind of illusion today with the technology and way by which we pass on information. The time period in which the resurrection took place adds merit that should not be ignored. News was circulated in a manner that was unique to our present day process.

Non-Christian historians record the resurrection - Josephus, a renowned secular historian at the time of Jesus’ death, writes, “On the third day He appeared… restored to life.” It should be noted there are many who debate the reliability of Josephus’ words regarding the resurrection, however, many historians find this evidence to support the Bible’s claims.

The persecution of the early church - Under Nero’s reign the early church suffered some of the most violent persecution, not to mention the Jewish leaders who also sought to kill the Christians. The steadfast resolve of a Church who was in its infant stage is astounding. The only explanation is that they all genuinely believed in the resurrection. They had nothing to gain and everything to lose by preaching the gospel, yet they did so freely despite the cost. If Christianity was based on a lie, it should have been easy to crush it as it was beginning. The fact that the force of the entire Roman Empire wasn’t enough to sway their devotion is incredible. The whole of the known world tried to annihilate Christianity in the cradle but couldn’t.

It is the accumulation of evidence that begs cause for belief - It is not for one singular reason that we believe Jesus rose from the dead, but rather the combined evidence that demands an explanation% that only the Bible provides. The proven accuracy of the Bible, the eyewitnesses details; the historical records of Jesus walking, eating, alive; the unexplainable absence in the tomb despite all efforts to seal it; the prophesies fulfilled; the change in people’s lives, the martyrs, the flourishing of the church in the face of persecution. It all points back to Jesus rising from the dead as the only reasonable explanation. The Bible consistently presents answers to questions the world has no answer for.

More comprehensive analysis and sources
Within these sources you’ll find more Biblical references, breaking down arguments and evidence, and quotes from some of the world’s finest minds and historians.


* The Resurrection of Christ: The Best Proved Fact in History
* Resurrection: No Doubt About It
* Biblical and Extra-Biblical Evidences
* Is the Resurrection True?
* Atheist’s Look at the Resurrection

Still got questions/comments? Shoot me an ask! I don’t usually reply to comments on long posts, but I’d certainly love to talk!

Todd Starnes #fundie rightwingwatch.org

Fox News commentator Todd Starnes spoke at Liberty University last month, where he declared that God gave America a “second chance” with the election of Donald Trump and conservative Christians must now rise up and take this nation back.

“For the past eight years,” he said, “we’ve been told that we are the problem, that we are not a Christian nation, that we are not an exceptional nation. Our traditions and our values have been ridiculed and marginalized. We were mocked by Hollywood and dismissed by the academics, marginalized by the mainstream media. But all that changed on election day when a man who promised to defend religious liberty, a man who promised to make America great again became our president.”

“I believe that God saw fit to give our nation a second chance,” Starnes declared. “My fellow countrymen, we are surrounded, the cultural bullets are flying, the enemies of freedom are advancing and the time has come for all of us to stand resolute. You say, ‘Todd, I’m not a fighter.’ Well, there ain’t no such thing today, sonny, because we are freedom’s last line of defense! … It’s time for every gun-toting, Bible-clinging deplorable American to take a thunderous stand for life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.”

CB88 #fundie arstechnica.com

*If it wasn't for the part about religious texts, I wouldn't have submitted this. Also, you'll have to log in to Ars Technica to view this, as it was downvoted to hell and back*

So, here's a thought.. 30-50 years ago few kids even thought about gay marriage let alone marriage in their teens.

Secondly, schools now basically encourage homosexual relationships in sex ed and other classes by promoting it as a valid lifestyle choice. If you teach kids that something is ok, while it is also illegal expect bad results... but I'm sure that is on purpose by the deviant powers that be.

Kids haven't been able to carry religious texts for years in schools... and yet they can carry thier smartphones full of cussing, race baiting and sexualization of thier peers without any oversight.

Thirdly, the second case increases over time to include peer pressure to commit homosexual acts or enter into homosexual relationships.

If you want suicide rates to go down... quite pressuring kids. A) into having early relationships B) have kids dress modestly but with the freedom to express themselves intact ... in other words pre-teens and teens show not be sexualizing their appearance. C) block their blasted phones from communicating through private apps some of that stuff that goes on there is probably 4chan-lite D) parents, parents parents,... they must be involved a good home is imperative to healthy development. E) Ensure that kids are engaged and interested in what they are learning... acutally I think a mix of vocational training, and *gasp* work, would vastly improve success rates. Kids that have busy minds and feel useful aren't going to seek out invalid methods of fitting into society when they are already well on their way to being productive socially functional adults.

Don't vote me down if you are against what I say.... I've lived a moderately sheltered life and have never even thought of suicide. Just because you were brought up to think the direction modern society has taken is good doesn't mean that is better than what I was brought up to think. I am happy despite the many problems of life can you say the same?

Padraig Martin #homophobia #transphobia identitydixie.com

[From "They Push Too Far: The LGBT Movement"]

The Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender (LGBT) movement is falling apart. It may not seem so, with all the pathetic corporate pandering and the endless stream of gratuitous gay characters on television, but it is. They have pushed too far and now public opinion is turning faster than ever before. This is especially true in the Godly South.

It is seemingly inescapable. Everywhere you turn you are confronted by detestable quasi-rainbow flags. I use the term “quasi” because that is what they are. The rainbow has seven colors; the gay pride flag has six colors. This is no surprise to those who know the Bible. The rainbow is a manifestation of God’s promise to Noah that such destruction will never befall His people again. Thus, what greater means of co-opting a Biblical narrative than using an emblem of God’s promise? But as in all things Satanic, the pride flag comes just short of a Godly promise.

Satan does not create, he imitates – and he always does so in a way that allows the Christian to see with clear eyes his deviancy.

Of course, there is something else that Satan does as well: he always pushes the envelope too far. The beautiful cherub described in the Book of Ezekiel never knows his limits. From contesting God to turning men from Christ, Satan, the father of lies, eventually gets what is coming to him. He always loses.

Satan’s latest manifestation – the worldwide acceptance of unnatural sexual deviancy and the eradication of masculinity – is not new. In fact, the Bible is quite clear on the subject of homosexuality. Leviticus 18:22 calls homosexuality an “abomination.” Leviticus 20:13 calls for something else.

Of course, Christians will point to the fact that Christ has borne our sins and therefore, through Christ, one can repent and not be killed for such depravity. But there is an inconvenient caveat. The operative word is “repent” – as in, to feel truly sorry for the act and to ask of God’s forgiveness. Continuing to engage in homosexuality, consequently, is not only an act that suggests one has not repented, but that Christ was never truly embraced in the first place. 1 Corinthians 6:9 is quite clear about the sinfulness of homosexuality. Gay pastors like to point out that 1 Corinthians 6:11 follows up with a note of Christ’s eternal forgiveness: “And that is what some of you were (gay). But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.” They forget the conditional modifier in the scripture. Paul uses the term “were,” as in formerly gay men who – thanks to Jesus – are no longer gay.

Thus, when so-called gay rights activists call out heterosexual Christians for also sinning, it is just Satan trying to mislead with twisted truth. Of course, we sin. Jesus died for those sins. But none of our churches should welcome the continuation of those sins, nor would the truly repentant Christian continue to celebrate his or her sins.

The absurdity of so-called pro-LGBT Christian churches and congregations is laughable. Name a pastor who is exalted for being a known murderer or rapist. Name a church that puts out signs saying, “Welcome My Whoremongering Brothers!” Name a church that puts out a flag indicating support for its adulterous congregants. I have yet to identify the Methodist Church that has “Thieving Thursdays.”

God forgives sin; Satan glorifies in it.

However, all of this may be coming to a head. Support for LGBT “rights” and acceptance is dropping like a stone. A recent study by the Public Religion Research Institute showed that LGBT support among Millennial Republicans dropped from 74% to 63% – eleven basis points or approximately 15% in one year. Among the reasons cited were the outrageous behavior of homosexuals at gay pride events, transgenderism, and the societal bullying of individuals who do not support LGBT actions, such as conservative Churches or bakeries.

[...]

In a USA Today article referencing the same poll that GLAAD used, world leaders were surprised by the swiftness of the drop in LGBT support. Perhaps that is because LGBT “rights” are seen more clearly by less politically correct and more honest world leaders. Brunei’s Sultan Hassanal Bolkiah wants gay men stoned to death. Kenya’s High Court just upheld laws criminalizing homosexuality. Not to be outdone by obscure brown countries, Poland’s Jaroslaw Kaczynski, leader of the conservative ruling party, called the LGBT movement an “immoral invasion” that “threatens the Christian Nation.” If anyone knows what an invasion looks like, it’s the Poles.

[...]

From Texas to Virginia… from Florida to Arkansas… the South once again rejected Satan.

By contrast, the states with the most pro-LGBT marks were found in the Northeast, the industrial Midwest, and unsurprisingly, the Pacific West Coast.

The LGBT movement may fool themselves, but they cannot fool God. The South, which overwhelming accepts Christ’s message, is not blinded by ostentatious displays of sexual depravity. God will not allow the South to be blinded by the beauty of Satan’s glow.

For now, be happy that these perverted freaks are pushing away the very normies who empowered them. No one who loves their children thinks “transgender story time” is a good thing. No one who loves their children takes them to a parade where simulated sodomy is the norm. Americans, as a whole, seem to be waking up.

In a Free Dixie, we will have freedom from the LGBT community. Their degeneracy will not be tolerated by a Godly people.

Richard Anthony #fundie ecclesia.org

If God is full of love, why did he destroy nations?

Answer: He destroyed them out of love for the people. Just like the world interceded and destroyed Nazi Germany to protect the people of the world from violence, God did likewise. God destroyed the land in the time of Noah because of the violence it was filled with (Genesis 6:13). God destroyed Sodom and Gomorra because of the violence that it was filled with (Genesis 13:13), and the fact that there was not one righteous man living there (Genesis 18:16-25). He threatened to destroy Nineveh because of the violence in their land (Jonah 3:8), but Nineveh changed their ways and was spared (verse 10). God destroyed Jerusalem because the city was full of violence (Ezekiel 7:23-25). God could not find one righteous man in Israel, so he had to destroy it to save the people from their misery (Ezekiel 22:29-31). If God would have found even one man that sought God's Truth, God would have pardoned it (Jeremiah 5:1).

Anonymous Coward #fundie modenook.com

Innocent Sheep and Arrogant Goats

February 6, 2012

Life is full of ambiguity followed by curiosity. As the generations go by, the world is changing vastly and rapidly. With all the technology, and money that humans are stumbling upon, they drift farther and farther away from God. This may be an understood and acknowledged fact, or an underestimated superfluous notion, but either way, God is not in the picture like He should be, in today’s society. More people are branching away from Christianity and becoming arrogant goats who gallivant around the world ion their high horses.

It is a true shame and a hindrance to every Christian who is fighting the current. To those of you who are lost; I pray one day you are found. God wants us all to be saved and be with Him in Heaven. However, this is not the case in regards to people and their pompous mentalities.

“Live in harmony with one another. Do not be proud, but be willing to associate with people of low position. Do not be conceited (Romans 12:16)”. People forget to do this. Those who accumulate a lot of money and wealth get consumed by it all. They forget about God and eventually lose sight of the light altogether. These people then marry and have families. Their children will be born, not knowing God and Jesus; being indifferent to religion and “tolerant” of all facets of spirituality. This is how you get atheists, and those who do witchcraft; all Godless rituals, rooted from evil.

The most unfortunate part about this is the fact that these innocent children are born without a chance to know Jesus. During childhood is the optimal time in which a child should get to know our Lord and Savior; shame on those who keep their children from the light and into darkness. May God have mercy on all those children, that some may find their way towards God and Jesus.

David J. Stewart #fundie jesusisprecious.org

Hell is Down In the Heart of the Earth

Matthew 12:40, “For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.” Acts 2:27, “Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell, neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.” If we cross-reference these two passages of Scripture, then we can logically conclude that Jesus spent three days and nights in a place called “Hell,” in the heart of the earth. Jesus told the repentant thief on the cross in Luke 23:43, “Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise.” So how could Jesus go to both Hell and Paradise? Clearly, Hell must be compartmentalized (as we read in Luke 16:19-32), with the place of Paradise on one side and the place of Torment on the other side. This is the only Biblical conclusion that does justice to all Scriptures.

Yes, I believe Hell is real. Science proves that as you descend down into the earth, the temperature rises drastically. Interestingly, the oceans become colder as you descend. At the bottom of the Marians Trench, just off Guam, the water temperature 39,000 feet down is at a unbelievable 34 to 39 degrees Fahrenheit. God is amazing! Scientists (humanity) have always been arrogant, refusing to admit when they simply do not KNOW how to explain something. There is not one honest scientist upon the earth who can explain the origins of mankind apart from the Holy Bible. I believe the Bible is clear that Hell is down inside the earth. Proverbs 15:24, “The way of life is above to the wise, that he may depart from hell beneath.” Ezekiel 31:17, “They also went down into hell with him unto them that be slain with the sword; and they that were his arm, that dwelt under his shadow in the midst of the heathen.” There are numerous reasons why I believe Hell is located down under the earth, in the molten parts of the planet. The $64,000 question is—Will you go there when you die? Perhaps you side with the skeptics who mock the Biblical idea of Hell as being an old wives tale, ancient folklore or superstition. Are you willing to take that risk? What if? What if the Holy Bible is right, and there is a place called Hell, where Christ-rejecting sinners are tormented for their sins, suffering in burning molten fire and brimstone forever and ever? Are you foolish enough to ignore the Word of God? O friend, I beg you not to shirk off God's Word.

David and Louise Turpin #fundie npr.org

A Southern California couple are in custody after one of their daughters called 911 and led authorities to their home on Sunday. There, the Riverside County Sheriff's Department says it found 12 of the teen's siblings inside, including "several children shackled to their beds with chains and padlocks in dark and foul-smelling surroundings."

Of the 13 siblings living at the home in Perris, Calif., officials say six were under the age of 18. The siblings ranged in age from 2 years old to 29, and the daughter who sought help was 17 — though when law enforcement officers met with her, "she appeared to be only 10 years old and slightly emaciated."

"Deputies, when they arrived inside the house, noticed that the children were malnourished," Capt. Greg Fellows, commander of the Perris Sheriff's Station, said at a news conference Tuesday. "It was very dirty, and the conditions were horrific."

Law enforcement officers arrested their biological parents, David Allen Turpin, 57, and Louise Anna Turpin, 49. Each of the parents has been charged with nine counts of torture and 10 counts of child endangerment. Each is being held on $9 million bail.

"If you can imagine being 17 years old and appearing to be a 10-year-old, being chained to a bed, being malnourished and [having] injuries associated with that — I would call that torture," Fellows told reporters.

All 13 victims were hospitalized for examinations and treatment. Although the Riverside University Health System declined to describe the minors' condition, Corona Regional Medical Center CEO Mark Uffer said the seven adults are "stable and they're being fed."

"It's hard to think of them as adults when you first see them because they're small, and it's clear they're malnutritioned," Uffer said at Tuesday's news conference.

Fellows explained Tuesday that the parents, who have lived in Perris since approximately 2014, had been home-schooling their children. When confronted by the police Sunday — according to the statement released Monday — "the parents were unable to immediately provide a logical reason why their children were restrained in that manner."

"It seemed that the mother was perplexed as to why we were at that residence," Fellows said. He added that law enforcement "had no prior contacts at that residence regarding any allegations of child abuse or neglect."

David Turpin's parents, James and Betty Turpin of West Virginia, told ABC News that they were "surprised and shocked" at the allegations because their son and daughter-in-law were "a good Christian family." They said they had not seen the family since visiting California four or five years ago.

The Los Angeles Times, citing public records, reports that the couple had moved to California from Texas several years ago and that they had declared bankruptcy twice.

Ivan Trahan, a lawyer who had represented the couple in their most recent bankruptcy filing, in 2011, was quoted by the Times as saying that the Turpins seemed like "very nice people who spoke highly of their children" but who had fallen into financial problems.

Trahan said David Turpin had worked as an engineer for Northrop Grumman. A spokesman for the defense contractor confirmed to the Times that he was employed there until 2010.

However, Kimberly Milligan, 50, who lives across the street, was quoted by the newspaper as saying that when she first moved in she saw a woman outside the house with an infant, but eventually stopped seeing the child. Over the years, Milligan said, she would occasionally see three children who looked like preteens.

"I thought the kids were home-schooled," she said. "You know something is off, but you don't want to think bad of people."

Considering the proximity of the houses, Milligan questioned aloud: "How did no one see anything?"

Milligan was quoted by Reuters as saying that two years ago around Christmas she saw three of the older Turpin children outside and complimented them on a Nativity scene outside their house. She said they "froze [as] if by doing so they could become invisible."

"Twenty-year-olds never act like that," she told the news agency. "They didn't want to have a social conversation."

Still, authorities lauded the bravery displayed by the 17-year-old daughter in calling attention to the situation Sunday.

"I appreciate the courage that this juvenile had," Fellows said Tuesday, "to escape that house and get out there and report this to law enforcement."

Frederica Mathewes-Green #fundie frederica.com

Let's Have More Teen Pregnancy

True Love Waits. Wait Training. Worth Waiting For. The slogans of teen abstinence programs reveal a basic fact of human nature: teens, sex, and waiting aren’t a natural combination.

Over the last fifty years the wait has gotten longer. In 1950, the average first-time bride was just over 20; in 1998 she was five years older, and her husband was pushing 27. If that June groom had launched into puberty at 12, he’d been waiting more than half his life.

If he had been waiting, that is. Sex is the sugar coating on the drive to reproduce, and that drive is nearly overwhelming. It’s supposed to be; it’s the survival engine of the human race. Fighting it means fighting a basic bodily instinct, akin to fighting thirst.

Yet despite the conflict between liberals and conservatives on nearly every topic available, this is one point on which they firmly agree: young people absolutely must not have children. Though they disagree on means—conservatives advocate abstinence, liberals favor contraception—they shake hands on that common goal. The younger generation must not produce a younger generation.

But teen pregnancy, in itself, is not such a bad thing. By the age of 18, a young woman’s body is well prepared for childbearing. Young men are equally qualified to do their part. Both may have better success at the enterprise than they would in later years, as some health risks—Cesarean section and Down syndrome, for example— increase with passing years. (The dangers we associate with teen pregnancy, on the other hand, are behavioral, not biological: drug use, STD’s, prior abortion, extreme youth, and lack of prenatal care.) A woman’s fertility has already begun to decline at 25—one reason the population-control crowd promotes delayed childbearing. Early childbearing also rewards a woman’s health with added protection against breast cancer.

Younger moms and dads are likely be more nimble at child-rearing as well, less apt to be exhausted by toddlers’ perpetual motion, less creaky-in-the-joints when it’s time to swing from the monkey bars. I suspect that younger parents will also be more patient with boys-will-be-boys rambunction, and less likely than weary 40-somethings to beg pediatricians for drugs to control supposed pathology. Humans are designed to reproduce in their teens, and they’re potentially very good at it. That’s why they want to so much.

Teen pregnancy is not the problem Unwed teen pregnancy is the problem. It’s childbearing outside marriage that causes all the trouble. Restore an environment that supports younger marriage, and you won’t have to fight biology for a decade or more.

Most of us blanch at the thought of our children marrying under the age of 25, much less under 20. The immediate reaction is: “They’re too immature.” We expect teenagers to be self-centered and impulsive, incapable of shouldering the responsibilities of adulthood.

But it wasn’t always that way; through much of history, teen marriage and childbearing was the norm. Most of us would find our family trees dotted with many teen marriages.

Of course, those were the days when grown teens were presumed to be truly “young adults.” It’s hard for us to imagine such a thing today. It’s not that young people are inherently incapable of responsibility-history disproves that-but that we no longer expect it. Only a few decades ago a high school diploma was taken as proof of adulthood, or at least as a promise that the skinny kid holding it was ready to start acting like one. Many a boy went from graduation to a world of daily labor that he would not leave until he was gray; many a girl began turning a corner of a small apartment into a nursery. Expectations may have been humble, but they were achievable, and many good families were formed this way.

Hidden in that scenario is an unstated presumption, that a young adult can earn enough to support a family. Over the course of history, the age of marriage has generally been bounded by puberty on the one hand, and the ability to support a family on the other. In good times, folks marry young; when prospects are poor, couples struggle and save toward their wedding day. A culture where men don’t marry until 27 would normally feature elements like repeated crop failures or economic depression.

That’s not the case in America today. Instead we have an artificial situation which causes marriage to be delayed. The age that a man, or woman, can earn a reasonable income has been steadily increasing as education has been dumbed down. The condition of basic employability that used to be demonstrated by a high school diploma now requires a Bachelor’s degree, and professional careers that used to be accessible with a Bachelor’s now require a Master’s degree or more. Years keep passing while kids keep trying to attain the credentials that adult earning requires.

Financial ability isn’t our only concern, however; we’re convinced that young people are simply incapable of adult responsibility. We expect that they will have poor control of their impulses, be self-centered and emotional, and be incapable of visualizing consequences. (It’s odd that kids thought to be too irresponsible for marriage are expected instead to practice heroic abstinence or diligent contraception.) The assumption of teen irresponsibility has broader roots that just our estimation of the nature of adolescence; it involves our very idea of the purpose of childhood.

Until a century or so ago, it was presumed that children were in training to be adults. From early years children helped keep the house or tend the family business or farm, assuming more responsibility each day. By their latter teens, children were ready to graduate to full adulthood, a status they received as an honor. How early this transition might begin is indicated by the number of traditional religious and social coming-of-age ceremonies that are administered at ages as young as 12 or 13.

But we no longer think of children as adults-in-progress. Childhood is no longer a training ground but a playground, and because we love our children and feel nostalgia for our own childhoods, we want them to be able to linger there as long as possible. We cultivate the idea of idyllic, carefree childhood, and as the years for education have stretched so have the bounds of that playground, so that we expect even “kids” in their mid-to-late twenties to avoid settling down. Again, it’s not that people that age couldn’t be responsible; their ancestors were. It’s that anyone, offered a chance to kick back and play, will generally seize the opportunity. If our culture assumed that 50-year-olds would take a year-long break from responsibility, have all their expenses paid by someone else, spend their time having fun and making forgivable mistakes, our malls would be overrun by middle-aged delinquents.

But don’t young marriages tend to end in divorce? If we communicate to young people that we think they’re inherently incompetent that will become a self-fulfilling prophecy, but it was not always the case. In fact, in the days when people married younger, divorce was much rarer. During the last half of the 20th century, as brides’ age rose from 20 to 25, the divorce rate doubled. The trend toward older, and presumptively more mature, couples didn’t result in stronger marriages. Marital durability has more to do with the expectations and support of surrounding society than with the partners’ age.

A pattern of late marriage may actually increase the rate of divorce. During that initial decade of physical adulthood, young people may not be getting married, but they’re still falling in love. They fall in love, and break up, and undergo terrible pain, but find that with time they get over it. They may do this many times. Gradually, they get used to it; they learn that they can give their hearts away, and take them back again; they learn to shield their hearts from access in the first place. They learn to approach a relationship with the goal of getting what they want, and keep their bags packed by the door. By the time they marry they may have had many opportunities to learn how to walk away from a promise. They’ve been training for divorce.

As we know too well, a social pattern of delayed marriage doesn’t mean delayed sex. In 1950, there were 14 births per thousand unmarried women; in 1998, the rate had leapt to 44. Even that astounding increase doesn’t tell the whole story. In 1950 the numbers of births generally corresponded to the numbers of pregnancies, but by 1998 we must add in many more unwed pregnancies that didn’t come to birth, but ended in abortion, as roughly one in four pregnancies do. My home city of Baltimore wins the blue ribbon for out-of-wedlock childbearing: in 2001, 77% of all births were to unwed mothers.

There are a number of interlocking reasons for this rise in unwed childbearing, but one factor must surely be that when the requirements presumed necessary for marriage rise too high, some people simply parachute out. It’s one thing to ask fidgety kids to abstain until they finish high school at 18. When the expectation instead is to wait until 25 or 27, many will decline to wait at all. We’re saddened, but no longer surprised, at girls having babies at the age of 12 or 13. Between 1940 and 1998, the rate at which girls 10-14 had their first babies almost doubled. These young moms’ sexual experiences are usually classified as “non-voluntary” or “not wanted.” Asking boys to wait until marriage is one way a healthy culture protects young girls.

The idea of returning to an era of young marriage still seems daunting, for good reason. It is not just a matter of tying the knot between dreamy-eyed 18-year-olds and tossing them out into world. Our ancestors were able to marry young because they were surrounded by a network of support enabling that step. Young people are not intrinsically incompetent, but they do still have lots of learning to do, just like newly-weds of any age. In generations past a young couple would be surrounded by family and friends who could guide and support them, not just in navigating the shoals of new marriage, but also in the practical skills of making a family work, keeping a budget, repairing a leaky roof, changing a leaky diaper.

It is not good for man to be alone; it’s not good for a young couple to be isolated, either. In this era of extended education, couples who marry young will likely do so before finishing college, and that will require some sacrifices. They can’t expect to “have it all.” Of the three factors—living on their own, having babies, and both partners going to school full-time—something is going to have to give. But young marriage can succeed, as it always has, with the support of family and friends.

I got married a week after college graduation, and both my husband and I immediately went to graduate school. We made ends meet by working as janitors in the evenings, mopping floors and cleaning toilets. We were far from home, but our church was our home, and through the kindness of more-experienced families we had many kinds of support—in fact, all that we needed. When our first child was born we were so flooded with diapers, clothes, and gifts that our only expense was the hospital bill.

Our daughter and older son also married and started families young. Things don’t come easy for those who buck the norm, but with the help of family, church, and creative college-to-work programs, both young families are making their way. Early marriage can’t happen in a vacuum; it requires support from many directions, and it would be foolish to pretend the costs aren’t high.

The rewards are high as well. It is wonderful to see our son and daughter blooming in strong, joyful marriages, and an unexpected joy to count a new daughter and son in our family circle. Our cup overflows with grandchildren as well: as of July we have four grandbabies, though the oldest is barely two. I’m 49.

It’s interesting to think about the future. What if the oldest grandbaby also marries young, and has his first child at the age of 20? I would hold my great-grandchild at 67. There could even follow a great-great-grand at 87. I will go into old age far from lonely. My children and their children would be grown up then too, and available to surround the younger generations with many resourceful minds and loving hearts. Even more outrageous things are possible: I come from a long-lived family, some of whom went on past the age of 100. How large a family might I live to see?

Such speculation becomes dizzying—yet these daydreams are not impossible, and surely not unprecedented. Closely-looped, mutually supporting generations must have been a common sight, in older days when young marriage was affirmed, and young people were allowed to do what comes naturally.

Cindy #fundie fresh-hope.com

I could not believe what I saw tonight. It broke my heart. Most of you know that we live in a very rural area, and are blessed that it's mainly Christian. The towns surrounding us are not though, and one town in particular has grown quite big and is full of "liberal", "tolerant" people, if you get my drift. Unfortunately, that's the town both of my girls live in. Tonight we went to hear one of our granddaughters sing in the school's chorus program. The first part of it was great. They did a song I'd never heard before called Ezekiel's Wheel which was really neat. That right there should have tipped me off as they never sing Christian songs, even at Christmas! I looked at the program and was so appalled I didn't know what to say! The last song they sang,was a muslim worship song to the demon allah and they were singing it in Arabic! I just couldn't believe it....This just couldn't be happening...not here, not with my granddaughter singing! Bruce and I both wanted to get up and walk out. Actually, we wanted to rant and rave first, and then walk out. It wasn't easy, but we sat through the thing till it was over and then left. Bruce noticed that there were a number of people besides us that were not clapping and not happy about it either, so that's good at least. I felt dirty, like I needed a bath. Mostly though I felt horrified that a teacher would be teaching the kids to sing this song to the kids! The English translation was in the program and the teacher was just so very proud of herself. Well, if looks could have killed, she'd have been dead and I KNOW she saw me since we were in the second row and she kept looking right at me.

I prayed through the entire thing. But it's even worse then that. The teacher had the kids write about how music "made connections" for them, and different kids read what the wrote. That was fine. Till one girl read hers and I just wanted to cry. She has apparently had a pretty hard childhood and she told us that "music was her Savior". Those were her words at the end of her little speech and the S was capitalized when she said it. I prayed for her until the muslim song started, asking the Lord to stay by her and teach her what a Savior really was and to save her.

The whole night made me aware of something else I'd been feeling but hadn't put my finger on....there was like a darkness present in that school. Enough of it to just give you the creeps. It reminded me of what I'd been reading just before I had to get ready to go.

2 Timothy 3:1 —But mark this: There will be terrible times in the last days. *

The word translated "terrible" or in some versions, "perilous" is actually the same word used to describe the two violent men who were possessed by demons in Gadara in Matt. 8:28. That seems to suggest that the times we're living in aren't just "bad times" but are bad because they're being energized by demons. In other words, all the crime, the hate, the false teaching and all the other things we've been seeing, aren't just your regular run of the mill sin. Instead, demons are influencing people and events, giving sin more power then usual. So perhaps someone who hates someone else but under normal circumstances would have never even dreamed of killing them, because of the demonic influence and drive, they do wind up killing the person. I felt that was even behind the school presenting that worship song tonight too. I know Satan was loving it, that's for sure. All I could do though was pray. I did ask the Lord to forgive the children that didn't know what they'd done and to convict those that did so they wouldn't do it again.

When I looked around at the people though, many seemed so smug and proud of themselves for being so "tolerant" and "civilized". I realized that they didn't have any idea what was really happening. I felt like I was literally watching these people walk toward a cliff with their noses so far in the air that they didn't see the cliff right in front of them and they were about to fall off. I wanted to jump up and explain what was happening to them, but I knew they'd just laugh and think I was crazy, including some who call themselves "Christians". They had no idea that they'd just fed their children poison that could kill them if they didn't get the antidote. It just made the tribulation so very real to me and made me realize again just how close it is - only in a more personal way if you know what I mean. It also made me realize that Satan will have no trouble at all getting people to believe His lies then, because they already do. Satan wants to destroy them and their own parents and teachers are feeding them to him!

Rick Green #fundie rickgreen.com

"When President Bush and Laura came out to speak for a few minutes at the dinner, it only took about thirty seconds of his genuine, no-nonsense but joyful delivery for me to realize how much I miss him being my president and how much I truly detest the pompous, scripted, fake personality that occupies the office currently (but I digress)."

The official dedication of the library on Thursday morning included all five living American Presidents on stage and speaking. Presidents Carter and Clinton were as self-absorbed as ever and could only bring themselves to compliment the Bushes through thinly veiled attempts to sing their own personal praises and warped sense of accomplishment.

President Obama was as arrogant and “above it all” as ever and even had the audacity (of hope?) to campaign for his legislative agenda since Speaker Boehner and several Members of Congress were in attendance. It was embarrassingly classless

Then the cowboy from Midland took to the podium as we gave him a standing ovation. His words are going to become standard operating teaching material for me at Patriot Academy when I’m training future leaders.

“The purpose of public office is not to fulfill personal ambition. Elected officials must serve a cause greater than themselves. The political winds blow left and right. Polls rise and fall. Supporters come and go. But in the end, leaders are defined by the convictions they hold.”

What a contrast to the previous speakers (other than the 26 seconds from his Father). It reminded me of how President Bush always bragged on the military men and women on the ground and never once took personal credit for their success, while Obama starts every statement about military action or crisis response with “I ordered” or “I decided” or “Because I have determined.”

At the end of President Bush’s speech, his genuine gratitude for the opportunity to serve his fellow man was revealed, not through his words as much as through the emotion he could not contain. This was not the fake humility of Clinton or Obama’s dramatic wiping of a tear that did not even exist.

David J. Stewart #fundie jesus-is-savior.com

I Want Your Children

I have come to visit your children
And I’m pleased with what I see.
They abuse all kinds of drugs,
And are getting drunk with me.

They live as in Gomorrah or Sodom,
Their minds perverse and blown.
I will claim their souls anytime now,
You shouldn’t have left them alone.

I am glad you worked long hours,
I am glad you were busy a lot.
It would have been harder to sway them, if not.

At your schools I have been at work,
Making sex an acceptable game.
You slept while I fought to keep prayer out,
To add to your neglectful shame.

You don’t seem to notice the witchcraft;
I broadcast on your own TV,
"It’s just an innocent program,"
Twitch your nose as they follow me.

Add a couple violent sitcoms,
It’s funny to see heads blown in two.
Now your little Tommy has his own gun
And there’s nothing you can do.

They’re mine and you cannot reach them;
Their hearts are cold, hard, and black.
I’ve showed them how to party,
With pot, cocaine and crack.

You have been a tremendous help though;
I couldn’t have done it alone.
If you hadn’t forsaken your prayer life,
These seeds I could not have sown.

So stay away from the Bible’s teachings;
Don’t listen to what God has to say.
Your children are no longer your problem,
A price they’ll eternally pay.

Without Christ they are mine to devour.
Without God, nothing you can do.
Today I will take your children.
Tomorrow I will be coming for you.

Sincerely,
Satan

Je Suis Omar Mateen #racist unz.com

Ha, it’ll never happen. To forge strong alliances with Mexico City’s surrounding villages and towns, Spanish conquistador Hernando Cortes ordered several of his men to marry the local savages. The savages were ecstatic about marrying these handsome white bearded men from the East, which their religion prophesied were gods come to rule over them, but the conquistadors were not happy about it. Though he sired several children with the local savages, Cortes himself married only Spanish senoritas.

Diversity (((TM))) is for reprrlelnt deplorables, not the high-born castes.

Paul Craig Roberts #fundie paulcraigroberts.org

A Conversation on Race — Paul Craig Roberts

We often hear that we need a conversation on race. Considering that Americans are a brainwashed people living in a false history, such a conversation would resemble the one the Russians were expected to have with the British in regard to the Skripal poisoning: “Yes, we are guilty. We will pay reparations. Where would you like us to send Putin for trial?” In other words, the only acceptable race conversation in the US is one in which white people accept the accusation that they are racist and offer to make amends.

Considering that the only slavery experienced by any living black or white person is income tax slavery, race is an issue only because it has been orchestrated as an issue along with gender and sexual preference. These divisive issues are the products of Identity Politics spawned by cultural Marxism.

In real Marxism, conflict is class conflict. Workers and capitalists have different interests, and history is a struggle between material interests. The capitalist is the villain and the workers are the victims.

In the pseudo Marxism of Identity Politics, the white race is the villain, especially the white heterosexual male, and racial minorities, women, and homosexuals are the victims.

There is, of course, no such thing as a white or black race. There are many different nationalities of whites, and they have done a good job throughout history of killing each other. Similarly, there are many different black tribes and Asian ethnicities who also have fought more among themselves than with others. But all of this goes by the wayside, along with the fact that in the world the “racial minorities” are actually majorities and the “white majority” is actually a minority. There are more Chinese or Indians alone than there are white people.

But orchestrated histories are not fact-based.

The working class, designated by Hillary Clinton as “the Trump deplorables,” is now the victimizer, not the victim. Marxism has been stood on its head.

The American ruling class loves Identity Politics, because Identity Politics divides the people into hostile groups and prevents any resistance to the ruling elite. With blacks screaming at whites, women screaming at men, and homosexuals screaming at heterosexuals, there is no one left to scream at the rulers.

The ruling elite favors a “conversation on race,” because the ruling elite know it can only result in accusations that will further divide society. Consequently, the ruling elite have funded “black history,” “women’s studies,” and “transgender dialogues,” in universities as a way to institutionalize the divisiveness that protects them. These “studies” have replaced real history with fake history.

For example, it was once universally known that black slavery originated in slave wars between black African tribes. Slaves were a status symbol, but they accumulated beyond the capacity of tribes to sustain. The surplus was exported first to Arabs and then to English, Spanish, and French who founded colonies in the new world that had resources but no work force. The socialist scholar Karl Polanyi, brother of my Oxford professor Michael Polanyi, told the story of the origin of the African slave trade in his famous book, Dahomey and the Slave Trade.

The first slaves in the new world were white. When real history was taught, this was widely understood. Movies were even made that showed that in King George III’s England, the alternative to criminal punishment was to be sold as a slave in the colonies. See, for example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAgfWhlc3gQ

Among the first New World lands to be exploited by the Europeans were the Carribean Islands, which were suitable for sugar and rice production. The problem was that the white slaves died like flies from malaria and yellow fever. The Spanish lack of success with a work force of natives of the lands they conquered led those in search of a work force to the slave export business of the black Kingdom of Dahomey. The demand for black workers rose considerably when it was discovered that many had immunity to malaria and resistance to yellow fever. This meant that a plantation’s investment in a work force was not wiped out by disease.

The resistance of blacks to malaria is due to the protective feature of the sickle cell trait that, apparently, only blacks have. See: https://www.cdc.gov/malaria/about/biology/sickle_cell.html

Slavery existed in the New World long before the United States came into existence. George Washington and Thomas Jefferson are today written off by Identity Politics as racists simply because they were born when slavery was a pre-existing institution.

Slavery had existed for many centuries prior to the Confederacy. Yet, in some accounts today one comes away with the impression that the South invented slavery. As the tale sometimes goes, Southern racists so hated blacks that they went to Africa, captured blacks at great expense, only to return them to the South where they whipped and abused their investments to the point of death and demoralized their work force by breaking up black families, selling children in one direction and wives and husbands in the other. This tale is not told as an occasional abuse but as the general practice. Economically, of course, it makes no sense whatsoever. But facts are no longer part of American history.

Northern states held slaves as well. However, the predominance of slaves were in the South. This was not because Southerners hated blacks. It was because the land in the South supported large agricultural cultivation, and there was no other work force. The South, like the United States, inherited slavery from the work force that European colonists purchased from the black Kingdom of Dahomey.

Why wasn’t there an alternative work force to slaves? The reason is that new immigrants by moving West could take land from the native Americans and be independent as opposed to being wage earners working on someone else’s land. The Western frontier did not close until about 1900. At the time of the War of Northern Aggression the Plains Indians still ruled west of the Mississippi River. It was Lincoln’s Northern war criminals, Sherman and Sheridan, who were sent to exterminate the Plains Indians. Ask the American natives, or what is left of them, who the racists are: the Northerners or the Southerners.

Black studies has even corrupted other aspects of history. Consider the so-called “civil war.” The name itself is an orchestration. There was no civil war. There was a War of Northern Aggression. A civil war is when two sides fight for control of the government. The South had left the union and had no interest whatsoever in controlling the government in Washington. The only reason the South fought was that the South was invaded by the North.

Why did the North invade the South? As was once understood by every historian and every student, Abraham Lincoln invaded the South in order, in Lincoln’s own words, expressed time and time again, “to preserve the Union.”

Why did the South leave the Union? Because it was being economically exploited by the North, which, once the North gained the ability to outvote the Southern states, imposed tariffs that benefited the North at the expense of the South. The North needed protection from British manufactures in order for the economic rise of the North. In contrast, the South’s economy was based on cotton exports to England and on cheap manufactures imported from England. Tariffs would bring the South higher cost of manufactured goods and retaliation against their cotton exports. The economic interests of the North and South did not coincide.

Slavery had nothing whatsoever to do with the war. Lincoln himself said so over and over. Prior to his invasion of the South, Lincoln and the Northern Congress promised the South Constitutional protection of slavery for all time if the Southern states would stay in the Union. Historians who have read and recorded the war correspondence of both Union and Confederacy soldiers to relatives and friends at home can find no one fighting for or against slavery. The Northern troops are fighting to preserve the union. The Southern ones are fighting because they are invaded.

Nothing could be clearer. Yet, the myth has been established that Abraham Lincoln went to war in order to free the slaves. In fact, Lincoln said that blacks were not capable of living with whites, who he said were superior, and that his intention was to send the blacks back to Africa. If America ever had a “white supremacist,” it was Abraham Lincoln.

What about the Emancipation Proclamation? Didn’t this order by Lincoln free the blacks? No. It was a war measure on which hopes were placed that, as almost every able-bodied Southern male was in the front lines, the slaves would revolt and rape the Southern soldiers’ wives and daughters, forcing the soldiers to desert the army and return home to protect their families. As Lincoln’s own Secretary of State said, the president has freed the slaves in the territories that the Union does not control and left them in slavery in the territory that the Union does control.

Why did Lincoln resort to such a dishonorable strategy? The reason is that Lincoln had run through all the Union generals and could not find one that could defeat Robert E. Lee’s vastly outnumbered Army of Northern Virginia.

The character and generalship of Robert E. Lee, who is dismissed by Identity Politics as a white racist, is so highly admired by the United States Army that the Barracks at West Point are named in Lee’s honor. Not even “America’s first black president” was able to change that. Black history also covers up the fact that Robert E. Lee was offered command of the Union Army. In those days Americans still saw themselves as citizens of their state, not as citizens of the US. Lee refused the offer on the grounds that he could not go to war against his native country of Virginia and resigned his US Army commission.

If Lee had been in command of the Confederacy at the First Battle of Bull Run when the Union Army broke and ran all the way back to Washington, Lee would have followed and the war would have ended with the South’s victory.

But Lee wasn’t there. Instead, the Southern generals concluded, watching the fleeing Union Army, that the Northerns could neither fight, retreat in order, or ride horses, and were no threat whatsoever. This conclusion overlooked the superior manpower of the North, the constant inflow of Irish immigrants who became the Union’s cannon fodder, the Northern manufacturing capability, and the navy that could block Southern ports and starve the South of resources.

During the first two years of the War of Northern Aggression the Union Army never won a battle against Lee’s vastly outgunned army. The North had everything. All the South had was valor. Lincoln was desperate. Opposition to his war was rising in the North. He had to imprison 300 Northern newspaper editors, exile a US Congressman, and was faced with the North’s most famous general running against him on a peace platform in the next election. Thus, Lincoln’s vain attempt to provoke a slave rebellion in the South. Why didn’t such allegedly horribly treated and oppressed slaves revolt when there was no one to prevent it but women and children?

Everything I have written in this column was once understood by everyone. But it has all been erased and replaced with a false history that serves the ruling elite. It is not only the ruling elite that has a vested interest in the false history of “white racism,” but also the universities and history departments in which the false history is institutionalized and the foundations that have financed black history, women’s studies, and transgender dialogues.

It was Reconstruction that ruined relations between blacks and whites in the South. The North stuffed blacks down the throats of the defeated South. Blacks were placed in charge of Southern governments in order to protect the Northern carpet baggers who looted and stole from the South. The occupying Union Army encouraged the blacks to abuse the Southern people, especially the women, as did the Union soldiers. The Klu Klux Klan arose as a guerrilla force to stop the predations. Robert E. Lee himself said that if he had realized how rapacious the North would prove to be, he would have led a guerrilla resistance.

The generations of Americans who have been propagandized instead of educated need to understand that Reconstruction did not mean rebuilding southern infrastructure, cities, and towns destroyed by the Union armies. It did not mean reconstructing southern food production. It meant reconstructing southern society and governance. Blacks, who were unprepared for the task, were put in control of governments so that carpetbaggers could loot and steal. Whites lost the franchise and protection of law as their property was stolen. Some areas suffered more than others from the Reconstruction practices, which often differed from, and were worse than, the policies themselves.

Reconstruction was a contentious issue even within the Republican Party. Neither president Lincoln nor Johnson would go along with the more extreme Republican elements. The extremism of the Reconstruction policies lost support among the northern people. When the Democrats regained control of the House of Representatives in the 1870s, Reconstruction was brought to an end.

In the South, and most certainly in Atlanta, where I grew up, schools were neighborhood schools. We were segregated by economic class. I went to school with middle class kids from my middle class neighborhood. I did not go to school with rich kids or with poor kids. This segregation was not racial.

When the North again got on its high moral horse and imposed school integration on the South, it disrupted the neighborhood school system. Now kids spent hours riding in school busses to distant locations. This destroyed the parent-teacher associations that had kept parental involvement and displinine in the schools. The South, being a commonsense people, saw all of this coming. The South also saw Reconstruction all over again. That, and not hatred of blacks, is the reason for the South’s resistance to school integration.

All of America, indeed of the entire West, lives in The Matrix, a concocted reality, except for my readers and the readers of a handful of others who cannot be compromised. Western peoples are so propagandized, so brainwashed, that they have no understanding that their disunity was created in order to make them impotent in the face of a rapacious ruling class, a class whose arrogance and hubris has the world on the brink of nuclear Armageddon.

History as it actually happened is disappearing as those who tell the truth are dismissed as misogynists, racists, homophobes, Putin agents, terrorist sympathizers, anti-semites, and conspiracy theorists. Liberals who complained mightily of McCarthyism now practice it ten-fold.

The brainwashing about the Russian and Muslim threats works for a number of reasons. The superpatriots among the Trump deplorables feel that their patriotism requires them to believe the allegations against Russia, Syria, Iran, and China. Americans employed in the vast military/security complex understand that the budget that funds the complex in which they have their careers is at stake. Those who want a wall to keep out foreigners go along with the demonization of Muslims as terrorists who have to be killed “over there before they come over here.” The Democrats want an excuse for having lost the presidential election. And so on. The agendas of various societal elements come together to support the official propaganda.

The United States with its brainwashed and incompetent population—indeed, the entirety of the Western populations are incompetent—and with its absence of intelligent leadership has no chance against Russia and China, two massive countries arising from their overthrow of police states as the West descends into a gestapo state. The West is over and done with. Nothing remains of the West but the lies used to control the people. All hope is elsewhere.

David J. Stewart #fundie godlovespeople.com

God hates the traditional Hawaiian dance called the “hula,” because it is sexually promiscuous, filthy and causes lasciviousness (immoral sexual desire). Daryl Hall of the 1980's pop band, HALL AND OATES, has a new musical show called “LIVE FROM DARYL'S HOUSE.” Daryl Hall produces the show himself. On a recent episode featuring Todd Rundgren, Daryl and his friends visited the northernmost island of Kauai, Hawaii. There were about 40-50 people in the video, mostly men, gathered together for a barbeque luau.

Daryl and his friends sing the song, “I don't wanna work, I just want to bang on the drum all day.” During the entire song the camera zooms in on a slutty whore in a miniskirt sinfully gyrating the hula. It is shameful for any woman to dance erotically, immodestly dressed, for men and women to lust upon her beauty. The woman danced sensually and the camera didn't miss a swerve of her sinful behavior. The world doesn't care about what God thinks. People hypocritically claim to love God while living in wickedness, sharply criticizing any God-fearing Christian like me who dares to speak the truth of God's Word. Where are all the Christian believers? Why aren't more Christians speaking out against the whorish behavior, immodest clothing and promiscuity surrounding us on society today. America has deteriorated into a cesspool of iniquity, a morally rotten and toxic society of sleaze.

Granted, anyone who doesn't want to lust is either a homosexual or needs to go see a doctor because there is something wrong with them. Albeit, lust is a sin. The Bible teaches in 1st John 5:19 that the world has always been a wicked place. Lust is a work of the flesh (Galatians 5:19-21). Colossians 3:5-6, “Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry: For which things' sake the wrath of God cometh on the children of disobedience.” Sexual immorality, which all starts with immodest apparel and lust, provokes God's wrath. Rock 'N' Roll is 99% sex, which has ruined our youth in America.

“Rock 'n' roll is 99% sex.” (John Oates of Hall & Oates)

Rock music is virtually synonymous with drugs and alcohol abuse. As a consequence of Rock music, and now the sleazy and shamefully lewd Country music industry, our youth are perverted beyond belief. Today's youth have no moral compass, because we've banned the Bible from our nation's classrooms sin 1963. The sexual liberation of the 1960's brought legalized abortion in 1972, to do away with the millions of unwanted pregnancies and unloved children in millions of fornicator's wombs! Woe unto America!

TruthisLove #fundie wnd.com

Quit the Boy Scouts now!!! Take your children out before some
homosexual "leader" starts sexually molesting your boys! Homosexuals are
supreme child molesters and child sex rapers. They rape boys and
children at 25-50 times more often than a normal male leader!! Now men
from NAMBLA will try to be a leader in the Boy Scouts (N.A. Man Boy Love
Association- who want it legal to have sex with boys a age 8 and marry
boys at age 8).
There is nothing to admire at all about
homosexual men. They are dangerous to your children, your health, your
life, and our nations health. God will destroy this nation for allowing
homosexual sex perverts to pervert everyone into being a worshiper of
sexual pleasure and bowing down to human genitals (but without making
children). When they say they do not want to discriminate is a
totally nonsense argument! We should discriminate against evil and
people who are and do evil like the homosexuals. They murder people 100
times more often, get AIDS 100 times more often [check the CDC website
for stats], and turn people away from the love and blessings of God.
Should we not discriminate against Rapers involved with our kids? Should
we not discriminate against murderers? Or people who are registered
child sexual offenders? To say we should not discriminate is really
dishonest and Satanic. God in the Bible tells us to avoid evil and evil
people in our society and purge the evil people from society so they do
not turn everyone into wicked rebels against God who are totally selfish
and become hedonist pagans and whores.

David J. Stewart #conspiracy jesus-is-savior.com

The bogus story that radical Muslims caused the 911-attacks simply doesn't add up. Most of the provided names of the 911 attackers onboard the airplanes that crashed into the Trade Towers have been found alive and well. It's all lies and more lies. Of all people, the 911 Commission appointed Henry Kissinger (a warmonger and eugenicist) to lead the investigation. The public outcry was so great that they picked someone else. Of course, the 911 Commission was spearheaded by The Council On Foreign Relations (CFR), which is like having the fox investigate the disappearance of chickens from the hen house. Here are 500 questions concerning the suspicious 911-attacks.

As far as I'm concerned, those were my family members who were murdered in the 911-attacks. Over 200 brave firefighters died when those buildings collapsed. Doesn't it seem strange to you that Fox News attacks anyone who dares to even question the official 911 story? Sure it does. It shows that there's a massive cover-up, involving the highest level of government and the corporate-controlled newsmedia. I am not anti-government; but rather, anti-corruption and anti-evil. The biggest conspiracy theory of all is that a group of Muslims hijacked 2-jumbo jets and flew them into 2-buildings, thus causing 3-buildings to perfectly implode to the ground in just seconds.

And what about presidential directive w199-eye signed by president George W. Bush prior to 911, blocking all investigation by the FBI and the Justice Department of the suspect Saudi terrorists prior to 911? It's the smoking gun of the 911 attacks. Only a dishonest person, or a coward, would deny all the blatant evidence and blindly claim that 911 wasn't an inside job. At a minimum an honest person would consider the evidence and listen to the thousands of people who WERE THERE on 911, and said they think 911 was an inside job. Earthquake seismographs have also shown multiple tremors as the buildings collapsed, showing multiple explosions were used to bring down the Trade Towers.

As shocking as it may seem, the newsmedia were even reporting that WTC 7 had fallen, while the building was still in plain view for another 20-minutes in the background. This is how blatant these New World Order liars are, and also shows how sold out to Satan the newsmedia is. The media are so evil that they'll devour their own children. They're total scum, plain and simple. That's why newsmedia women dress like whores and their men cover for criminals. There's a lot of scum in America's so-called professional society. Don't think that God has missed anything. Even the words out of everyone's mouth is going to be judged by God on Judgment Day (Matthew 12:36). Blessed by the name of the Lord.

The New World Order criminal gang has used the 911-attacks to take away the freedom's of Americans, and we're stupid enough to tolerate this removal of our legal Bill of Rights. If enough American's got upset, they couldn't get away with this. Sadly, most people are willing to sell their soul for so-called “security,” from a boogieman that the government created to spook us. The War On Terror is bogus. It is a false War On Terror, a rotten scam to enslave the world. The Public School System has dumbed-down America's children, to where they think like morons, believing that voting is the most powerful thing they can do. No, dissent is the most powerful weapon we have against tyranny. It is a vile crime what is happening in America's airports against the American people. We are surviving today in Nazi-Amerika.

paramount99 #wingnut #conspiracy deviantart.com

I've been somewhat suspicious of this 'bat infection' from the offset: as it coincided 'too much and too closely' with the crazed bastions of the Marxist left going into frenzy 'do or die' mode (they never would as they are hand waving cowards and nothing else) after the UK government under Boris Johnson won an outright landslide victory over the loony left, commies, marxists, establishment, elites and the money grabbing (whatever the reason) globalists (Soros etc) as the happy medium triangle of Trump, Farage and the Boris took them on and soundly beat them with the FULL backing of the real people of our societies, and not the loony snowflake authoritarian fringes...
Are they over-reacting to the cases and deaths of 'corona virus' which apparently we most of us have within us anyway, as part of our immune system, and simply trying to run down our capitalist economies?!?
Over the past few weeks we have known directly two cases of people and three others who people we know, know, but we do not know, who have allegedly 'caught' the bat flu virus and had to go to hospital, and have been declared as having caught either corona virus or Covid 19, and in each of these cases none of these 'infected' people have actually has any tests, blood or other, to confirm that YES you have either of the said named virus', but have been signed off as officially had the said infection..............?!? Hang on a bit!!! So if just a handful of people we know or know indirectly have been officially put down as having the bat infection (and go on the statistics lists that the fake news lefty mainstream-media pump out at us) then how many more of the said numbers they give us haven't even been tested?!?!?!?!? Sounds a bit dodgy to me - and I only have a science degree... Plus you have to make note of the fact that, even the 'honourable' NHS of the UK has gone further left wing of late... And how are the 'state' police handling things lately?!?
BIG BROTHER certainly is watching over us - whether indirectly or not...
Maybe it isn't the virus that is the crux of the problem here...........

Paul Craig Roberts #fundie paulcraigroberts.org

Are Whites Being Setup For Genocide?

Identity Politics has responded with outrage against People Magazine’s choice of white male country singer Blake Shelton as “sexiest man in the world.” According to adherents of Identity Politics, the choice indicates that People Magazine is itself racist and part of the white supremacy movement to elevate white people above people of color. The choice is doubly outrageous because, according to a writer in Salon, it reinforces and celebrates toxic white male sexuality and elevates a white man to a position of popular acclaim.

Every white person needs to read this article — http://www.unz.com/article/the-end-of-white-celebrity/ — to understand how they are being demonized and marginalized to the point of oblivion. By focusing primarily on white heterosexual males, Identity Politics tries to split white women off from white men by the use of the pejorative “misogynist”, but, as the article reports, white women, such as Taylor Swift, are also publicly demonized for their whiteness.

Reading this article in The Unz Review reminded me of an article I read last November in a Texas university newspaper that declared white DNA to be an abomination. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/11/30/texas-student-newspaper-blasted-over-anti-white-your-dna-is-abomination-column.html

Think about this for a minute. Suppose the writer had said “homosexual DNA is an abomination,” or “black DNA is an abomination,” or, heaven forbid, “Jewish DNA is an abomination.” Anyone who declared homosexuals, blacks, or Jews to be an abomination would be instantly fired, sued, charged with hate crimes and driven so deep into the ground that they would never reemerge.

The article in the student newspaper was a bit too much for Texas and produced a furor of its own. Lost in the furor was the realization that the writer was correctly interpreting the Identity Politics that today defines the liberal/progressive/left. Hillary Clinton herself expressed Identity Politics when she declared Americans who rejected her as president to be “deplorables.” CounterPunch printed an essay by its radio host that concluded Trump’s election was not legitimate because he was elected by racist, sexist, homophobic white male Trump deplorables.

In other words, Identity Politics cannot be dismissed as some sort of idiocy on the part of a few kooks. It is institutionalized in American politics and culture and is becoming a habitual way of thinking. The growing demonization of white people parallels the demonization of the Jews and can result in marginalization and physical destruction.

The immigration policies of white countries have created a diversity basis for ganging up on whites. If we put together a diverse population with the anti-white ideology of Identity Politics, we have a political and cultural trap for white people.

It seems paradoxical that Identity Politics is led by white/liberal/progressive/leftists advocating their own marginalization. However, as it is a correct conclusion from Identity Politics that white DNA is an abomination, white adherents of the ideology can logically see their demise as a benefit to humanity. But why should they be allowed to condemn whites who do not see themselves as an abomination?

What we are seeing unfold with Identity Politics was foretold by Jean Raspail in his futuristic novel The Camp of the Saints. Perhaps white people should read it as an indication of their possible fate.

Jean de Dieu Momo #racist jta.org

(JTA) — A Cameroon government minister said that the Jews brought the Holocaust on themselves because they wielded all the economic power.

The African nation’s government disavowed the comments made by Jean de Dieu Momo, the deputy justice minister, in a primetime interview on public television. Momo warned the opposition leader, Maurice Kamto, that he was leading the native Bamileke people to a fate similar to that of the Jews during the Holocaust, the French news service AFP reported.

“In Germany, there was a very rich community who wielded all economic power,” he said. “They [the Jews] were so arrogant that the German people were frustrated. Then one day, a certain Hitler came to power and put them in the gas chambers.”

The government of Cameroon distanced itself from Momo’s comments.

“The Government of the Republic of Cameroon wishes to point out that [Jean De Dieu Momo] was speaking on a strictly personally basis,” Communications Minister Réné Sadi said in a statement, the English-language Journal du Cameroon reported. “The government of Cameroon strongly deplores the irrelevant comments of [Momo] and completely dissociates itself.”

John White #fundie momof9splace.com

A certain man had a wife and three children. The wife, becoming dissatisfied with housekeeping, and coveting money being earned by her neighbors, said to her husband, 'Husband, secure for me the social security number that falleth to me, and divide unto me a portion of thy trousers . .' With a reluctant heart the husband granted her desire and divided his wardrobe. Not many days later the wife donned slacks and, with tool box under her arm, waved good-bye to the children, and took her journey into a far country and there secured a man's job in a factory.

She made big wages, but she associated with the wicked and listened to the vulgar stories that they told. There was a mighty spiritual famine in that land, and she grew lean in her soul. The children turned loose at the mercy of the neighbors, soon forgot that they had a mother; but the husband remembered the duties of a wife and wished that his wife would return to her home. The husband dined on cold lunch meat, while the wife tried in vain to fill her stomach with the husks of the cheese crackers that fell from the canteen vendor's machine; and no man gave unto her the respect due unto a lady. One day at rest period as she sat engulfed in cigarette smoke and smutty stories, she came to herself.

She said to herself with remorse, "Here I sit, surrounded by vulgarity, and sacrificing the respect due a lady. At home is a deserted husband, while my children roam the streets unrestricted. The money I make seems small compared to peace of mind and soul." In vain she tried to smother her conscience with the thought that she was contributing to the family's economic welfare. So she said to herself, "I will arise and go to my husband and will say unto him, 'Husband, I have sinned against heaven and neglected by family in a terrible way. I am no more worthy to be called thy wife, nor the mother of thy children. Make me as the hired housekeeper.'" So she gathered her tools together and started home. And when she was yet a long way off, the husband saw her, and ran and clasped her in his arms, and the wife said, "I am not more worthy to be called thy wife, nor the mother of thy children." But the father said to the children, "Run and bring hither a dress, and the best apron. Put shoes on her feet, and rush to the meat market and get a steak of the fatted calf, and let us have a warm meal once more. For this, your mother, was lost, and is found. So they rejoiced and made merry." (Author Unknown - The Bible Friend)

Daniel Greenfield #fundie frontpagemag.com

Bicycles are one of the obsessions of Mayor Bloomberg and his transportation secretary Janette Sadik-Khan. Khan is the granddaughter of Imam Alimjan Idris, a Nazi collaborator and principle teacher at an SS school for Imams under Hitler’s Mufti, Haj Amin al-Husseini. The bio of his son, Wall Street executive Orhan Sadik-Khan, frequently mentions the bombing of the family home in Dresden and surviving trying times after World War II. It neglects to mention that the times were only trying because their side was losing.

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In partial revenge, Khan has made many New York streets nearly as impassable as those of her grandfather’s wartime Dresden. Bike lanes have turned two lane streets into one lane streets. Infidels sit in their cars and honk while bike lanes go unused and midtown bus lanes sit empty except for the occasional daring taxi driver braving the bus lane camera and the 150 dollar fine.

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Of such strange alliances is the technocratic banana republic on the Hudson woven. A Muslim Nazi collaborator’s granddaughter oversees the de-car-ing of a city after a plan based around a plan from the tenure of a modern collaborator with Muslim Nazis falls through. Imam Idris might have called it the providence of Allah. But more likely he would have found a way to get his piece of the pie.

got question #fundie gotquestions.org

Question: "Why did God condone such terrible violence in the Old Testament?"

Answer: The fact that God commanded the killing of entire nations in the Old Testament has been the subject of harsh criticism from opponents of Christianity for some time. That there was violence in the Old Testament is indisputable. The question is whether Old Testament violence is justifiable and condoned by God. In his bestselling book The God Delusion, atheist Richard Dawkins refers to the God of the Old Testament as “a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser.” Journalist Christopher Hitchens complains that the Old Testament contains a warrant for “indiscriminate massacre.” Other critics of Christianity have leveled similar charges, accusing Yahweh of “crimes against humanity.”

But are these criticisms valid? Is the God of the Old Testament a “moral monster” who arbitrarily commands genocide against innocent men, women, and children? Was His reaction to the sins of the Canaanites and the Amalekites a vicious form of “ethnic cleansing” no different from atrocities committed by the Nazis? Or is it possible that God could have had morally sufficient reasons for ordering the destruction of these nations?

A basic knowledge of Canaanite culture reveals its inherent moral wickedness. The Canaanites were a brutal, aggressive people who engaged in bestiality, incest, and even child sacrifice. Deviant sexual acts were the norm. The Canaanites’ sin was so repellent that God said, “The land vomited out its inhabitants” (Leviticus 18:25). Even so, the destruction was directed more at the Canaanite religion (Deuteronomy 7:3–5,12:2-3) than at the Canaanite people per se. The judgment was not ethnically motivated. Individual Canaanites, like Rahab in Jericho, could still find that mercy follows repentance (Joshua 2). God's desire is that the wicked turn from their sin rather than die (Ezekiel 18:31-32, 33:11).

Besides dealing with national sins, God used the conquest of Canaan to create a religious/historical context in which He could eventually introduce the Messiah to the world. This Messiah would bring salvation not only to Israel, but also to Israel’s enemies, including Canaan (Psalm 87:4-6; Mark 7:25–30).

It must be remembered that God gave the Canaanite people more than sufficient time to repent of their evil ways—over 400 years (Genesis 15:13–16)! The book of Hebrews tells us that the Canaanites were “disobedient,” which implies moral culpability on their part (Hebrews 11:31). The Canaanites were aware of God's power (Joshua 2:10–11; 9:9) and could have sought repentance. Except in rare instances, they continued their rebellion against God until the bitter end.

But didn’t God also command the Israelites to kill non-combatants? The biblical record is clear that He did. Here again, we must remember that, while it is true the Canaanite women did not fight, this in no way means they were innocent, as their seductive behavior in Numbers 25 indicates (Numbers 25:1–3). However, the question still remains: what about the children? This is not an easy question to answer, but we must keep several things in mind. First, no human person (including infants) is truly innocent. The Scripture teaches that we are all born in sin (Psalm 51:5; 58:3). This implies that all people are morally culpable for Adam’s sin in some way. Infants are just as condemned from sin as adults are.

Second, God is sovereign over all of life and can take it whenever He sees fit. God and God alone can give life, and God alone has the right to take it whenever He so chooses. In fact, He ultimately takes every person's life at death. It is not our life to begin with but God’s. While it is wrong for us to take a life, except in instances of capital punishment, war, and self-defense, this does not mean that it is wrong for God to do so. We intuitively recognize this when we accuse some person or authority who takes human life as "playing God." God is under no obligation to extend anyone's life for even another day. How and when we die is completely up to Him.

Third, an argument could be made that it would have been cruel for God to take the lives of all the Canaanites except the infants and children. Without the protection and support of their parents, the infants and small children were likely to face death anyway due to starvation. The chances of survival for an orphan in the ancient Near East were not good.

Finally, and most importantly, God may have provided for the salvation for those infants who would not have otherwise attained salvation if they had lived into adulthood. We must remember that the Canaanites were a barbarous and evil culture. If those infants and children had lived into adulthood, it is very likely they would have turned into something similar to their parents and been condemned to hell after they died. If all infants and young children who die before an age of moral accountability go straight to heaven (as we believe), then those children are in a far better place than if God had allowed them to live and grow to maturity in a depraved culture.

Surely, the issue of God commanding violence in the Old Testament is difficult. However, we must remember that God sees things from an eternal perspective, and His ways are not our ways (Isaiah 55:8–9). The apostle Paul tells us that God is both kind and severe (Romans 11:22). While it is true that God's holy character demands that sin be punished, His grace and mercy remain extended to those who are willing to repent and be saved. The Canaanite destruction provides us with a sober reminder that, while our God is gracious and merciful, He is also a God of holiness and wrath.

Pastor Steven Anderson #fundie peacock-panache.com

Arizona Pastor Steven Anderson of the Faithful Word Baptist Church in Tempe, Arizona – the man who called for the mass murder of LGBT people in the name of Jesus Christ – is back with commentary on public accommodation and LGBT civil rights. In a new (yet undated) clip posted online, Anderson rails against those supporting LGBT rights and opposing Indiana’s semi-gutted Religious Freedom Restoration Act (RFRA).

“We don’t want anyone to misunderstand the law because we don’t want anyone to think that they don’t have to serve homos because they do,” Anderson said referring to the change made to ensure LGBT people could not be targeted using the law. “Then what is the law? What was it even for, then?”

Anderson isn’t alone in that sentiment; many of the law’s private architects on the fringe right said the same thing in the wake of the legal change since the overarching plan from the beginning was to use the law to target LGBT people.

Anderson made a right turn from there and began discussing specific examples made popular through right wing organizations’ social media including Memories Pizza and Sweet Cakes by Melissa in Oregon.

Raging against the former, Anderson decried their closing for a week as an act of cowardice stating they’re “kow-towing” to “animals” and “queers.”

“Who are these perverts who ordered a pizza for the wedding?” Anderson angrily asked. “These people are doubly perverted. Because not only are you perverting nature by being a sodomite, you’re catering your wedding with cheap pizza.”

No one actually asked the pizza establishment to cater a wedding; rather, the owners used the reporter’s appearance and question to garner attention to their business in order to take advantage of the ever-growing crowdfunding movement other businesses have utilized. And they succeeded when they raked in just under a million dollars.

Moving on to the Kleins, Anderson’s message remained angry and accusatory. In his eyes the Kleins shouldn’t have been crying on television; rather, they should proudly deny service to LGBT people as he does in his church.

“We don’t serve queers in this church,” Anderson said referring to how nice the Kleins were attempting to appear as they refused service to LGBT people. “The Bible does not say ‘Don’t hurt their feelings.’ The Bible calls them beasts!”

Anderson added, “Who thinks it’s a hard decision if some faggot wants you to make them a wedding cake?” He asked his congregation, “Anybody struggling with that right now?”

“Christians, so called who will not stand on the word of God, and who bow down and kowtow to these filthy perverts” are “part of what is destroying America.”

David J. Stewart #fundie jesusisprecious.org

There's an ungodly organization called, Affirming And Welcoming Baptists (AWAB), which is trying to unite Baptist churches with the homosexual agenda. IT IS WICKEDNESS!!! AWAB Find-A-Church—WICKEDNESS!!! (Baptist churches are adopting same-sex PERversion!). Homosexuality is a horrible sin, but more than just a sin, it is a DEATHSTYLE OF SIN!!! The homosexual agenda is deliberate sin, intentional sinning, which is EVIL!!! The Bible has nothing good to say about sin. America has become so wicked that people today are attempting to justify murdering children by abortion, homosexuality, public nudity, adultery, divorce, idolatry, stealing and all manner of evil.

Faithful Christians who hate evil and fight against the ungodly abortion industry are being called “nutty religious people.” Count me in as a nut friend. We'll see on Judgment Day in front of God in Heaven who's the nut!!! I promise you that the abortion crowd won't boast and tout with arrogance in that day! I promise you in that day that there won't be a grand reunion of homosexuals in Heaven, parading their filth with a smile, defying God's Holy Word, downplaying their wickedness as “love.” Job 20:5, “That the triumphing of the wicked is short, and the joy of the hypocrite but for a moment?” As we draw nearer to the appearing of the Antichrist (the man of sin), the world is going to plunge deeper-and-deeper into wickedness, returning to the deplorable spiritual condition of Noah's time (Matthew 24:37-39).

As I mentioned, not too long ago I attended a local Independent Baptist Church for about a year, and boy were my eyes opened to the apostasy in churches today. Although I tolerated their New-Evangelicalism because I wanted to help them, they refused to tolerate my fundamental Christian views. They confronted me on a Wednesday evening after handing the senior pastor a copy of Dr. Al Lacy's “NIV: The Antichrist's Bible,” and also “I Never Knew You” (.pdf) by Michael Bowen, which are both awesome books! Well, I might as well have handed them a Penthouse smutty magazine. In fact, if I had handed them a dirty-girly-magazine, they likely would have scolded me and said they'll pray for me, but I doubt if they would have told me to get out and don't come back. The truthful books that I gave those pastors scared them, because if church members read them it would open their eyes and expose their pastors as heretics. The truth hurts, but it needs to be said. I'm not going to stop preaching the truth to keep anybody!

I had also given a copy of I Never Knew You to the pastor's son-in-law (an associate pastor in the church) one Sunday evening at church, who after inviting me over for dinner the next day on Monday with his wife, blew-me-off and never even explained why he cancelled the dinner invitation. The book had greatly offended him. You don't invite someone to dinner, and then just forget about them. People can be so mean.