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Michael #fundie nogreaterjoy.org

But if your husband has sexually molested the children, you should approach him with it. If he is truly repentant (not just exposed) and is willing to seek counseling, you may feel comfortable giving him an opportunity to prove himself, as long as you know the children are safe. If there is any thought that they are not safe, or if he is not repentant and willing to seek help, then go to the law and have him arrested. Stick by him, but testify against him in court. Have him do about 10 to 20 years, and by the time he gets out, you will have raised the kids, and you can be waiting for him with open arms of forgiveness and restitution. Will this glorify God? Forever. You ask, "What if he doesn’t repent even then?" Then you will be rewarded in heaven equal to the martyrs, and God will have something to rub in the Devil’s face. God hates divorce—always, forever, regardless, without exception.

The Rev. William H. Grimes #fundie conservatism.referata.com

Sermon 12: Kerrigan Skelly Debunked
By Rev. William H. Grimes
I went on a brief hiatus so that I could start researching for my new “Debunked” series. Let’s talk about the false preacher Kerrigan Skelly. Skelly is a fairly well known street preacher, known for his fire and brimstone style and megaphones as well as attention-seeking signs. Mr. Skelly thinks he’s doing the will of God. However, all he’s doing is dooming lost souls to eternal hellfire. “If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.” (1 John 1:9)
He’s an Armenian, so he thinks that sinless perfection on Earth is possible. He’s correct that sin-everyday “Christians” are heretics, but he’s wrong in that sin can be completely eradicated from one’s soul. Skelly himself says he’s totally without sin. 1 John 1:9 says “If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.” We are to strive to cease sinning, but we can only be perfect in our resurrected bodies which are perfect. However, he also believes that queers and transvestites can be redeemed. Unfortunately, this does not seem to be the case due to conversion therapy failing. Homosexuality may be totally incurable and these souls may be eternally lost. However, for the rest of us, Christ’s sacrifice on the cross is not IN VAIN AND IS NOT LIMITED TO SINS OF THE PAST!!!!! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! OWWWWWWWWW! HALLELUJAH! SAY AMEN IN THE HOUSE OF GOD!
Christ only forgives those who are truly repentant. No pastor or priest can forgive sins, and drinking a sip of wine and eating a cracker won’t forgive sins. ONLY TRUE REPENTANCE CAN FORGIVE SINS!
Kerrigan Skelly loves Wicked Donny, and probably also voted for Mor(m)on Willard in 2012. He wears a long beard and he’s effeminate! Skelly once preached outside of a Taylor Swift concert and inadvertently admitted to lusting after the flesh! He’s also a glutton! Even by his own Arminianism, he’s going to roast in Hell for telling the unsaved that Christ is in a box and he cannot save His followers who are TRULY repentant! IF YOU LOVE GOD, YOU WILL REJECT THE WICKED HEATHEN KERRIGAN SKELLY AND PRAY THAT HIS APOSTATE SELF WILL RECEIVE THE TRUE GOSPEL OF CHRIST! SKELLY HAS HARDENED FAR TOO MANY HEARTS AGAINST GOD AND HE HAS SUED THOSE WHO ATTACKED HIM FOR MONEY! KERRIGAN SKELLY IS A FRAUD AND A HUCKSTER WHO HATH NOT THE LORD AND USES THE LORD FOR MONETARY GAIN AND HIS OWN EGO!
Next time, I’ll cover Transgenderism Debunked. God’s people said AMEN!

Michael Seewald #fundie seewalds.com

(from Jessa Duggar's father-in-law)

As it stands criminal charges were not brought against Josh but I believe that Josh’s parents acted in a way that godly parents should. They did not turn a blind eye, but earnestly sought help from the church, counselors, and eventually the police. Maybe they didn’t do it in a way that pleases everyone, but they acted decisively to confront the sin, to call a penitent son back from his errors, and to seek to aid the hurting victims. In the end Josh sought forgiveness from those he wronged, repented of his sins, and came to trust Christ as his Savior. He has to the present day attested to the reality of his repentance and faith by living above reproach. In their efforts to salvage the wreckage that these transgressions brought, and bring healing to all involved, Jim Bob and Michelle are to be commended.

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Some people act as if it was the Duggar’s responsibility to have made this sad episode in their family public knowledge. They are to be praised for not hiding this from the appropriate parties and eventually the police, but they owed it to no one else to publicize the sins of a minor child and the court agrees with that assessment, the judge now ordering that the police report be destroyed. But the cat is already out of the bag. How many of you would broadcast the sins of your children to the whole world? Would you be willing to publicize your own darkest moments? It is miserable indeed that someone was willing to illegally obtain a police investigation involving minor children and publish it for whatever nefarious purpose they had in mind.

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Are Jim Bob and Michelle to be scolded for raising their children with high moral standards and this moral failing evidence that they are legalistic hypocrites? No. Although individual Christian family’s interpretation of God’s moral standards may vary somewhat in practical ways they are right in holding high moral standards. It is always our duty to live a godly life, and even when we fail, God’s moral standards found in the Bible don’t change. It is by our inability to live up to them that we understand our need of a Savior. Are the Duggars perfect in their interpretation of God’s moral standards? No. But neither is anyone else. They may be stricter than some which comes with certain difficulties but there are also many difficulties on the other end of the spectrum in being lenient. Is it helpful to tweak our parenting practices if the results are less than desirable. Yes, we should constantly be learning and growing as parents and change when we see a better way, yet no parenting method is without flaw. The heart of the matter is do you have a good relationship with your children? From my perspective, this is where Jim Bob and Michelle excel.

The Great Exchange

So, what is the ultimate answer? The answer is what Josh found and millions like him. He found forgiveness and cleansing from Jesus Christ. There are many of you that are reading these words right now having had thoughts and deeds no better than what Josh had and did. You are a sinner. You are a sinner by birth and choice. It is because of that corruption that is common to all that you have violated God’s holy commandments. If you continue in your present course Jesus Christ himself will judge you unworthy of eternal life. But he has graciously provided the only way of salvation and that is by trusting in him and his atoning death on the cross as the payment that God requires to absolve you of the guilt of your sins. Listen to the words of the apostle Paul about the forgiveness found in Christ. “In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;” Ephesians 1:7. Christ spilled his blood to redeem us from the bondage of sin and death. This was accomplished by his taking our sins upon himself and being punished in our place.

Hope For Sinners

Here is a warning for everyone reading this, by condemning a repentant sinner you have placed yourself in the place of God. Jesus said, “For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.” Matthew 7:2. We are never to condone sin, and the sins of Josh’s youth are reprehensible. Civil penalties are sometimes required and we should never begrudge the victims of crimes or the civil authorities from seeking justice, but we are not to condemn repentant sinners in our hearts or with our tongues or pens. Though consequences are sometimes necessary and desired to uphold civil society and to bring temporary justice, Jesus forgives repentant sinners, real sinners: murderers, thieves, child molesters, homosexuals, self righteous church goers, the proud, liars, scoffers, atheists, hypocrites, and any other sinner or combination of them all. All that is required is to come to Jesus confessing that you are a sinner and with faith that his death will avail for you. He will receive you and begin the process of salvaging your life for his glory.

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I want to say that the Seewald family stands with the Duggar family in solidarity. We stand with the unnamed victims of these incidents. Our thoughts and prayers are for you. I want to say to Josh, hang in there, the shame you feel is legitimate, yet Jesus took your shame as he was punished in your place. Rest in his forgiveness and grace. Remember that he gives you his righteousness as a covering for your shame. Let this trial in your life build humility and grace. Don’t be angry at the world for their hatred of you. Show them through your love for them that it is Jesus Christ that made all the difference in your life. I’m rooting for you.

Philip #fundie atheistparents.org

Why take it [repetance] later when you can take it now and give God the glory?
Wait a second.. did I just contradict myself? No. I am God too. So are you but you are not manifesting it right now. Repent now and be rewarded or repent later by default and recieve no reward outside of becoming like Christ.

CapitalKiller #fundie reddit.com

This is fundamentally a question about illegalism. And there are two questions nestled in here: why do you personally choose to work wage labor instead of crime, and why should people submit to wage labor instead of committing crimes?
When the term “wage slavery” entered the vernacular, it was contemporary with American chattel slavery. It wasn't socialists, or Marxists, etc. that used it. It was slavery abolitionists. Two prominent examples are Frederick Douglass and Harriet Beecher Stowe. While Africans and African descendants were being whipped and killed, some of those who escaped would turn around and compare their previous condition as chattel slaves to their new condition as wage slaves. Thus, it's not a new term, it isn't something invented by academics, socialists, anarchists, or modern anti-capitalists. It was originally a statement that wage relationships are literal slavery. I want everyone to keep this fact in mind, to help frame where I am going with this.

Further, when I say “choose” in the title I don't mean it in the pseudo-choice “voluntaryist” sense, as if either crime or wage slavery are free, peaceful, or voluntary arrangements. But I do mean it in an absurdist or existentialist sense, in that you can in fact wake up one day and decide to go to work at Subway or choose to rob Subway. Alternately, you can choose to lay in bed for days at a time, or hang yourself by a rope in your closet. This does not deny the material conditions that influence one decision over the next (e.g. the consequences of working at Subway versus the consequences of robbing Subway), but rather affirms what Jean-Paul Sartre called “radical freedom.” You don't have to submit, although there may be consequences for not submitting.

I actually don't expect the few illegalists here to answer, and I might even discourage it. I don't want anyone to implicate themselves in a crime. I want you to keep going strong. I'm interested in hearing why people have chosen to submit to wage slavery versus crime. To go back to the first framing point: there were slaves who submitted to slavery, and there were slaves who started insurrections, fought masters, got beaten, got killed, or ran away and escaped. Why are you in the first category (the wage slave who submits) and not the second category (the slave refuses to submit)? If we truly believe that wage slavery is slavery, why are so few anarchists willing to reject wage slavery in full, throw it off, and lay down their own lives (or at least take the high risks of crime) instead of enduring slavery?

In an earlier comment on a different topic I said that I didn't trust anarchists who had not been arrested. This was unpopular. Probably because most anarchists (especially the American Reddit demographic) are not criminals, are not illegalists, and have not been arrested. However, I don't mean this to be a personal attack. The purpose of direct action/illegalist/insurrectionist groups is criminal. You have to be able to trust those people. And a good way of knowing if someone can be trusted, of knowing if someone can handle the inevitable interrogation and criminal justice ringer, is if they've caved under pressure or resisted in the past. If someone has been arrested and they didn't snitch, that's a good sign you can trust them. Further, if someone has been arrested and they did snitch, you've weeded them out. This does not even need to be a political/social/anarchist crime. It reflects upon how well someone is able to cope with arrest and provides an indication of their trustworthiness and dependability.

This is not “who is a better anarchist.” It's a practical tactic for forming illegalist, insurrectionist, and direct action groups with people you can trust.
(I wont go into people who are arrested and become informants, unfortunately you just may not know. And so there are some limitations here. But, in most cases, if someone is arrested and snitches you will find out during the legal discovery process or the street grapevine.)
There was one response that said I “glorify crime,” “romanticize crime,” or something to that effect. Friends, if you've read any illegalist literature, it all glorifies and romanticizes crime. The act of crime in and of itself, be it illegalist (e.g. for your own financial gain to avoid wage slavery) or insurrectionist (illegal, but for political/anti-political and without lucrative purpose), is supposed to be liberating. In fact, every time someone posts a picture of a riot, a burnt police car, calls an arrested anarchist a hero, etc. they're glorifying crime. Look at Bonanno's "Armed Joy" - does this not glorify crime?

Now, there is no glory and nothing romantic about prison. Prison sucks. There is nothing glorious about a lynched slave. But this does not mean that crime itself is neither glorious nor romantic, nor liberating, nor joyful, nor beautiful. We don't blame the anarchist criminal here for being a victim. We blame the prisons. We blame the lynchers. The anarchist criminal is not at fault. The state, the prisons, and the police are. As a minor footnote, in anarchist revolutions past and present (Spain and Rojava), “martyrs” were/are glorified and elevated. In Spain, militias were named after anarchists killed in heroic attacks on fascists. In Rojava, there are murals painted and walls plastered with the pictures of revolutionaries who died fighting Daesh.

There's nothing great about getting killed, either. But this does not mean that getting killed – or going to prison, or getting arrested – is not the inevitable consequence a heroic revolutionary act. In fact, it's something you have to accept as a revolutionary, an illegalist. It's something everyone who fought in Spain, or who are currently fighting in Rojava, have accepted. Thus it is both an inevitable and necessary act of individual and collective revolutionary struggle. We should treat the anarchist martyr, the illegalist, or the prisoner, the same way we we would treat the failed runaway slave, or the failed slave revolt leaders, who are ultimately caught and killed by slave hunters. They were brave, they tried, they didn't make it, but maybe someone else will. Who condemns the runaway slave for trying to escape?

Why, then, is there so much opposition to crime from anarchists? Not necessarily in word (although also, unfortunately, a lot in word), but in deed. And why do so few anarchists seem to be criminals (at least in the USA)? What is holding you back, exactly? Why isn't illegalism a real trend – and not only a trend, but the most prominent trend – for anarchists?

Dagur-Berserker #fundie #racist #conspiracy deviantart.com

I have wondered for quite a while now but now I know. If one doesn't believe me, one aught to look at who decided the case of Loving V. Virginia in 1967. With the knowledge I have obtained from ex-Freemason through his ministry, the Masonic lodge dominated the Supreme Court from 1941 to 1971 and in those years happened the case of Loving V. Virginia which struck down states' rights to uphold anti-miscegenation laws. These Freemasons who dominated the supreme court in this time were appointed by Masonic presidents FDR, Truman, and Eisenhower. It was these Freemasons who also came up with the falsehood of "muh separation of church and state" which was never written in the constitution.

It was these same Freemasons that banned prayer from the public schools during Engel V. Vitale, a case submitted by a Jew who lied saying that prayer in public schools was forcing religion in 1962. Seeing how immoral an action that led to such a destruction in the nation's cultural fabric and unity, one should disregard all supreme court cases from this era as constitutional rights and all others that influenced them as well. The Masonic lodge teaches their brethren to uphold loyalty to one another above those of their own country which is the very definition of treason. The very time of the breakdown of morality was the time interracial marriage and later abortion were approved as morally and legally acceptable in our culture and that should cause some people's heads to scratch.

Some may ask about themselves being of partial non-white or non-black descent, but partial DNA mixture is the exception, not the rule. God set down the rules of marriage so that we don't mess up our lives and the more dysfunctional something is, the further it is removed from God's intended design. Interracial marriages in almost all cases end in divorce at a higher rate than homogeneous same race marriages. This does not mean that God doesn't love mixed people as they still human beings created in God's image. If they should marry anyone, it should be those who are next to their own genetic structure, provided they are not siblings or next of kin, meaning the same mixture of race.

Asian males and white female marriages are 59% more likely to end in divorce than a white couple. A white husband and an Asian wife are 4% more likely to end in divorce. The case of both Hispanic white with non-Hispanic white and white and Asian were more likely to end in divorce than Hispanic whites and Asians. A black husband and a white wife are more likely to divorce than a black couple and also had the highest divorce rate of interracial married couples. The only case that wasn't so was a white husband and black wife, but this still encourages others to partake in similar behavior.

Plus one should also look at the other consequences such a case has had on America. God hates divorce as He created marriage to be forever. Others have used interracial marriage as the moral excuse for allowing homosexuality. This was the same case that allowed for the supreme court case back in 2015 which legalized homosexual "marriages" all over America contrary to what many state constitutions determined. As one behavior led to another, this should throw in some thinking as to why some behaviors are opening up to new immoral ones.

Though not admitted to the public, though the homosexual "community" has constituted only 2% of the population, they account for up to 61% of those who come up positive for HIV according to the CDC. Homosexuals are 50% more likely to suffer depression and engage in substance abuse than the rest of the population according to Health 24. The homosexuals on top of this are 200% more likely to commit suicide and have an average of 24 years shorter lifespan than normal couples. On top of that, 83% of homosexuals have had more than 50 partners in their whole lifetime. If you want to go into a more specific detail then 43% of homosexuals admitted to have at least 500 sexual partners and 28% have admitted to have 1,000 or more sexual partners. All of this is according to page 8 of Bell and Weinberg.

Among homosexual men, only 4.5% reported to have been sexually faithful to their partner. Such behavior such as interracial marriage only opened up the floodgate to this as well seeing it was a building block for the homosexual "marriage" movement. Higher infidelity rates and higher promiscuity rates are nothing to take pride in. The Bible also condemns causing others to sin as a foul sin in itself.

Luke 17:1-4 And he said to his disciples, “Temptations to sin are sure to come, but woe to the one through whom they come! It would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck and he were cast into the sea than that he should cause one of these little ones to sin. Pay attention to yourselves! If your brother sins, rebuke him, and if he repents, forgive him, and if he sins against you seven times in the day, and turns to you seven times, saying, ‘I repent,’ you must forgive him.”

Imperial Wizard Cole Thornton #fundie unskkkk.com

Atheist churches? Yes sir, they are a reality now in America. Guess that goes along with a lot of the other odd American ideas these days. Others are open homosexuality, abortion on demand, same sex marriage, bi-sexual, trans-sexual and even queer preachers.

Along with all of this, look at our production force. There are miles of empty buildings that were once in full swing producing that which we now buy from China, Vietnam, Cambodia, Korea, Mexico and a host of other countries. Meanwhile, unemployment here continues at record highs.

Still our borders are not controlled as illegal immigrants and drugs flow freely across them, while we spend billions overseas "protecting" other countries.

Drug abuse, alcohol abuse, child abuse and spouse abuse are common every day events, as well as murders, assaults, rapes, and robberies. Government abuse to the citizens runs right along with it.

One could talk for hours if not days on the wrongs in America. What is wrong?

Have you ever been in a real heavy fog? I mean one where you had no idea where land was? Totally lost at sea? I have and it is a most weird, uncomfortable feeling. It is actually really scary. Like being in a total, snow white out, where you are driving and honestly don't know what part of the road you are on or even IF you are on it at all. This is the way America is today. Lost.

We are lost as a ship at sea in a heavy fog or storm looking for a lighthouse. The lighthouse America needs is Jesus Christ. Some how, some way we have turned into a very back slidden people doing mostly the opposite of what the Master wants.

We see people of every minority imaginable protesting in Washington but, where are the Christians? When was the last time this country saw a real large turn out of Christians in the Capitol? It must have been the early part of the 20th century when the Klan marched on D.C..

We weren't there when prayer was taken out of school, or when abortion on demand was legalized, or even when Preachers began getting threatened or arrested for teaching the true words of Christ. What will it take to get the Christians to finally speak up? Mass crucifixions like they did in Rome?

One of the many put down comments we get from the public is how can you call yourself a Christian when you belong to the Klan? Easy. Because we ARE Christians. We are not haters of people but haters of evil. So is God. No, I in no way, for sure, insinuate that we are like God . We are all sinners saved by grace. However, God can not even stand to look on sin. He HATES it. That is why His Son had to pay a debt He didn't owe, because we owed a debt we couldn't pay. A sin debt. We are redeemed by accepting Jesus Christ and being cleansed by His sinless blood.

I have had people try to join who are Agnostic or even Atheist and were shocked that we turned them down. They realize we are serious about this being a Christian Order. The thing with the Klan is that we will not sit idly by and let these kinds of anti-Christian anti-American things continue without trying to stop them. We need good Christian people to join our ranks so we CAN go to D.C. in large numbers and have a real impact.

America needs to turn back to God and also needs to seriously repent. If we are not careful, God is going to take His protective hand off this country and what we have seen thus far will be nothing compared to what follows. Even His patience has an end and I believe He is close to it. We as Christians need to stop the fighting amongst each other as to who has the best church, the right service, the most behaved members or whatever to being a repentant people humbly approaching God and begging His forgiveness. As Klansmen we will continue the fight to see that all maintain the freedom and right to do this.

Andy Schlafly #fundie thepulpit.freedomblogging.com

["What is so wrong with forgiveness?"]

It suggests (in the scenes) forgiveness without repentance. It opens the door and promotes sin. Opens the door to atheism…waters down hell, denies hell, opens the door to the growth of atheism…Jesus talked more about hell than heaven… .

Forgiving adulteress woman … The basic error is it teaches people can do what they want and they will be forgiven even if they don’t repent. (The forgiveness scene of the adulterous) is historical nonsense. They didn’t stone women. They strangled them. Liberals love it because they use it to argue against capital punishment.

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We respect the original intent (of Bible authors). We are pealing away the political bias. We are purifying the Bible.

Jonathan Azaziah #conspiracy mouqawamahmusic.net

JO COX AIN’T NO MARTYR; SHE WAS A SYRIA-HATING IMPERIALIST KILLED IN A LIKELY FALSE FLAG

I’m not going to say I don’t have the intention of pissing on everybody’s parade because that’s exactly what I’m trying to do so let me just get on with it. Slain British MP Jo Cox is NOT a martyr. Okay? She’s not. She’s not a “martyr in the fight against resurgent Hitlerian fascism” as some idiotic “leftists” who are probably on the payroll of MI5 happen to be saying–a “resurgent Hitlerian fascism” mind you that doesn’t exist. She’s not a “martyr for European unity” either–a “European unity” mind you that means the preservation of the Zionist-dominated, absolutely hegemonic, totally dictatorial, insanely bureaucratic, multinational-corporation-adored, sovereignty-eroding European Union. And she’s not a “martyr for BDS” as some maddeningly moronic “Palestine Solidarity Movement” activists are referring to her as–a “BDS” mind you that does not target Jewish-Zionist-owned corporations outside of the ‘Israeli’ tumor which represent pillars of Global Zionism or even ‘Israeli’ individuals who live on stolen land, only ‘Israeli’ companies and ‘Israeli’-linked companies in the West that fall under the strict guidelines of the increasingly toothless BDS Movement. Not under any circumstances, not in ANY definition of the word, not in ANY applicable situation vis-a-vis our Mouqawamist-Liberationist discourse which we use to extricate our peoples and homies from mainstream Zio-controlled narratives is this rank, stank, putrid British Imperialist a “martyr”.

Should she have been killed? No. Obviously not. Come on. To condone such murderousness is not Islamic, it’s not Christian and it’s not humane. The fact that such a statement even needs to be uttered though shows how Judaized and massively lost in the lamest of lame sensitivities a great many of our “comrades” and “allies” are. “Revolutionaries” you fancy yourselves as, huh? Please. As a dear brother of mine recently said, y’all are precious snowflakes. Y’all are fragile fairies; sissy sprites; glass gladiators and cowardly cornballs. What Jo Cox ACTUALLY was and what she ACTUALLY represented should, for all intents and purposes, THOROUGHLY sicken you. And because of this truth, NOBODY from our ranks should be shedding a tear, let alone sullying the word “martyr” by referring to her as one.

Forgive the repetition but Jo Cox was a rank, stank, putrid British Imperialist who endlessly strove for “regime change” in Syria up until her dying day. She called for “civilian safe zones” inside the Syrian Arab Republic, i.e. partition. She was a staunch advocate for “refugee rights”, i.e. depopulating the Syrian Arab Republic for the benefit of the “Greater Israel” project. She abstained from the December 2015 British Parliament vote on participating in an overt military intervention against “ISIS” (read: Damascus) not because she’s “antiwar”, but because of the opposite! She’s a “regime-change”-hungry maniac! She didn’t vote because the motion wasn’t explicit enough on the overthrow of Syrian President Dr. Bashar al-Assad! To hell with this image of sweetness and goodness that the Western-Zionist media is ramming down our throats, Jo Cox was bloodthirsty!

And when it came to Palestine, all she said was legally curtailing the right of people to boycott unethical companies is wrong. She also called for lifting the siege on Gaza. Both of these positions are now establishment-approved as they present the illusion of being “pro-Palestine” and acknowledge that Palestinians are human beings while still upholding the criminal Zionist entity’s existence. Not exactly groundbreaking. Not remotely revolutionary. Just typical liberal deception. I assure you, Jo Cox was NOT the British version of Rachel Corrie, a REAL martyr in the struggle against Global Zionism.

What is most interesting about Cox’s death is how closely it parallels that of Anna Lindh, the young, charismatic Swedish Foreign Minister who was stabbed to death on September 11th, 2003. While the official story says that Lindh was murdered by a “right-wing extremist”–identical to what is now being spun about Cox–in reality, she was assassinated by Mossad because of her staunch, public anti-Zionist positions that ranged from everything to opposing the aggression against Iraq, calling for the severance of ties between ‘Israel’ and the EU, rejecting the unlimited support provided to Sharon by Bush’s neocon regime and much more. Lindh’s anti-Zionism, if left unchecked, could have had a ripple effect on the nascent Zionist-Globalist project derived right from the Kalergi Plan known as the EU, so the usurping ‘Israeli’ regime’s international death squad eliminated her.

Was Cox, like Lindh, also murdered by an intelligence agency, be it MI5, Mossad or both, as a means of swaying the British people to vote “remain” in the upcoming Brexit referendum on whether or not the UK should stay in the EU, because, of course, this would “honor” her memory? Especially since the circumstances surrounding the man who shouted “Britain First!”–which is, for the record, a pro-‘Israel’, Zionist-run organization anyway–before allegedly killing Ms. Cox are very murky? And especially since before Cox’s death, the polls on Brexit indicated that Brits were leaning in the majority towards a vote of “leave” and now after her death the polls are indicating that Brits are leaning in the majority towards a vote of “remain”? Was this a false flag assassination operation? Well. Considering Mossad and British intelligence also collaborated in executing the false flag attack on July 7th, 2005, and have worked together so very closely in wrecking Iraq and Syria, it would be stupid to think that it isn’t at least in the realm of fathomable possibility and indeed a likelihood.

In the final analysis, we return to our original point: Jo Cox is NOT a martyr. She was a sanguinary, hideously hypocritical British Imperialist right to her core who seems to have been used by the very “elitist” system she spent her life protecting and serving as a catalyst to further its pathologically destructive agenda. If you want REAL martyrs, look no further than Iraq where the Popular Mobilization Units just finished leading the fight to liberate Fallujah from British-backed Daesh and gave countless MARTYRS in the process; look no further than Syria where Hizbullah is currently on a roll in the southern Aleppo countryside and has given dozens of MARTYRS in the last few days alone whilst combating British-backed Takfiris, as well as the Syrian Arab Army which is whipping through the Latakia-Idleb border region and has seen many soldiers fall over the past week; look no further than Yemen where hundreds of moujahideen from Ansarullah have given their lives to defend their homeland and 10,000 Yemeni innocents, more than half of which are women and children, have been MARTYRED by the British-backed, British-armed House of Saud.

THESE are martyrs. THESE are heroes. THESE are the souls we should be shedding tears for and praying about. THESE are the forces of Heaven. Jo Cox was nothing but a typically deceptive liberal akin to a succubus from hell. Stop getting it twisted. Stop conflating the two. Stop perverting our revolutionary lexicon to get on the good side of the very monsters you claim to oppose by showing them your “humanity”, as if humanity can only be measured truly when we fake-cry even faker rivers over a dead British warmonger. Just… Stop. And don’t expect me to say “rest in peace” because that just ain’t gon’ happen. There is no salaam, NO SALAAM WHATSOEVER, for crypto-Zionist British Imperialists who yearn for the dismemberment of our region. F*** your feelings and your f*** your sensitivities. We clear?

The Last Trump #fundie christiannews.net

(on being asked why Christians don't go after adultery/divorce the way they do homosexuality)

I think it has something to do with those fornicators and adulterers NOT demanding we accept and endorse their wayward lifestyle choices. NOT conducting fornication and adultery parades and NOT forcing our children to consider those immoral choices as "options" during sexeducation classes in kindergarten.
Just sayin'.

(On being asked why no churches seem to offer divorce counselling)

Churches counselling people who are lost, confused and in pain?
Yep. Sounds like some kinda pro divorce conspiracy to me!
Hee, hee! Adorable.

piesquare777 #fundie youtube.com

Really is that simple. God is infinite mercy, if Hitler would have ask for forgiveness and repented God would have granted it. Even if you were to kill jesus right now, and you repented God will forgive you. Remember nothing is impossible for God. Jesus can easily bring himself to life, but he can't never saved your guilty soul if you don't ask for forgiveness.

kelzi11 #fundie nairaland.com

(kelzi11): My father senior brother. The oldest among them. Acquired witch craft, and for like 3 years non of his brothers or sisters knew, including my father, untill my grandfather died, then people start dieing anyhow. Out of seven, my father's senior brother that is a witch has suceed in killing five(5). Only my dad and him are remaining. My dad is currntly ill, and the illness is more than 4 years now. Each church we go. Prophecy tells us he is the one.

He was sucessful in killing my junior brother. And now even me and my siblings are under threat. He uses witch craft power, marmaid and even native doctors power to challenge us.

due to the fact that we are very close to god and we usually go to every church that we can. We pray day and night. Our pastor prays, fasting and many other things are keeping us alive till this time.

One of my fathers brother that reside at india since he was small, hustle untill he made it, and was even planning to bring a drug producing company to nigeria, he had already negotiated with indian poeple and finish, but the very day he wanted to board a plane to nigeria, he fanted and died.

So this man has done many evil things, killing many poeple, commiting all sort of attrocities. Even one junction in our l.g.a he is the king of witchcraft there.

He is now turning his face to our family and wants to finish us our because he sees how we are successful.

To be sincere witchcraft dont like good things, so i advice you that anything you do, do it in secret, dont open it to your village people. And also pray very well. Cause this people called witchcraft. Are somehow powerful, but their powers comes from god. Without god, they are nothing.

If you dont have witchcraft in your family, dont say that it dosent exists. It do exist and can destroy all good things in that family.

I also want to ask a question if any body have encountered this kind of thing in his or her life before.

Thanks for reading.

(asalimpo): op why not pray that the wizard shud die. I think that will solve the problem. Or ,if you're so disposed, that God should arrest him and make him repent. Forgiveness and repentance is better though cuz hell is hot and never loses its sizzle. The tears of the damned is fuel to the flames.

(amunkita): OP i will advise u go nd kill ur uncle..
Even bible talk say make we kill witch..
but if after u kill ur uncle, e still kontinue, abeg kill ursef because nah u be the winch just that they ve taken ur brain to remember.

(MARKone): It is only the ignorant that will deny the existence of evil, witches and wizards. OP your uncle might not be a witch per say, just another evil man that does not want anybody from your family to rise, there are plenty of them around, "village people" things. My question, have you guys confronted him. From your story, you guys need a very powerful man of God.

Josey #fundie christiannews.net

He further explained to reporters that the funds will go to women’s health organizations, specifically those that don’t offer abortion services.
“If anything, we’ll have additional access points, more access points [and] better access to women’s health,” he told KSL News Radio. “So the idea that this is somehow going to harm women is fallacious.” said Governor Gary Herbert.

I agree with him. When I see these women and their signs advocating killing the unborn all under the guise of a woman’s right to choose, it is so sad that they actually believe it’s about women’s rights. How many blessings and great people did America throw into the garbage by murdering these innocents that God was giving us, how many government leaders, ministers, doctors, etc…?
I can’t understand these women who look like grandmothers, would they have wanted their grandchildren to have been murdered in the womb? But here they are advocating the murdering of other women’s grandchildren, it is idiocy to me and rebellion against God for they believe a lie rather than our Creator.
God bless the women who even after being raped and having become pregnant had the courage to carry that life to term and take the option of adopting that child out, they act out of a selfless heart, may God comfort and heal them of their pain.
To the other women who out of inconvenience kill their babies, take responsibility for your life, don’t get pregnant in the first place, there’s a choice for you since you who advocate abortion claim it is all about your right to choose, well choose not to get pregnant then you won’t have to murder your offspring.
To the women who have had an abortion and regret is so and are sorrowful about that choice there is repentance and forgiveness for you, repent and turn away from it, don’t be an advocate of it or participant any longer and God will forgive and heal you also if you will turn to Christ. Jesus loves you!

RacerX #fundie forums.backpage.com

When a person sins against another, then he/she must ask forgiveness in order to get it. Also, when the offender asks for forgiveness from the offended...then the burden of the sin is transfered to the offended. If the offended gives forgiveness then the sin is gone. If the person does not grant forgiveness then God will not forgive the offended of his/her sins.

However, asking for forgiveness doesn't exempt someone from punishment. A debt must be paid...a recompense made.

In addition to asking for forgiveness, repentance is required. Repentance can be defined as "genuinely feeling sorrow for." In other words, you really have to mean it when you ask for forgiveness.

Example:

If someone murders one of my family members, I have the right to kill that person. If that person asks for forgiveness (and truly means it) then I am bound by the Law to forgive him. However, I am also bound by the Law to kill him for the sake of justice.

People (or angels) that knew God personally, not only sinned against Him, but they were unrepentant. This is why, most of what Plad posted earlier, God destroyed so many people.

Super C #fundie answers.yahoo.com

Sweetie, there is a difference. I can't speak for everyone but when you sin, a Christian knows to ask for forgiveness and to repent. I don't know what atheists do when they sin, but there is a difference between sinning for the hell of it and sinning and asking for forgiveness and repentance.

[Ha ha...oh, the irony!]

Angelica Zambrano #fundie christiscoming777.com

THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN

Then an angel asked me “Are you ready? The LORD has sent us for this purpose” I answered “Yes, Im ready” as the Lord had taken away all my fear. This experience was different from the other two experiences. This time I did not travel to Heaven in the same manner as before. This time I instantly entered the Kingdom of Heaven. When I looked around I realised I was wearing a beautiful white dress. We began walking and the angels were just worshipping the LORD and said “Look around for we have many things to show you”. I began to see the same places I had seen in my first experience such as flowers and a beautiful garden.

CHILDREN IN HEAVEN

When we passed the garden we arrived in a place that was filled with children. These children were about 2-3 years old. They danced, played and sang. The angels said “Look, to such as these belongs the Kingdom of Heaven. Remember, only for those who open their hearts. Many of these children were killed. Many were aborted. Their mothers took their lives”. The children worshipped the Lord and played on what appeared to me to be a swing set. As I approached them they got very close to me. The Archangel Michael said to me “Today the Lord gives you a great love for children”. Previously I liked children but sometimes I hated their behaviour, crying, whining or talking too much. I just liked them to sit still. Michael said “God gives you a new love for children. When you return to earth, you will be like honey to them. They will look for you and you will be a blessing to them. Do you know why God places this love in your heart for children? God wants you to win their souls. There are many children in Hell. You must speak to their parents so they will know”.

Many children in this generation are rebellious. They do not obey their parents. Nowadays, children are being deceived by satan through the television. Most of the shows they watch do not edify in any way. Parents don’t realise it but there are many kids that watch pornographic videos. The cartoons that come through TV are not educational, they are evil. Children are influenced by these shows and they become rebellious. They continually disobey their parents. For these reasons children end up in Hell. (See Angelica’s 2nd Testimony for more info)

Eph 6, 1?Children, obey your parents in the Lord, for this is right. 2 “Honor your father and mother,”which is the first commandment with promise: 3 “that it may be well with you and you may live long on the earth.”

In Heaven, the children were praying, laughing and worshiping the LORD. I had great joy to see their happiness. When the angel told me that many of them had been aborted, it really hurt my heart. And you know what is sad? Many women have had abortions. Young and old, married and single. These women did not want their children. Sometimes the fathers would accompany them to the clinic. Those babies go to the presence of God. But the men and women of the earth become murderers. The word of God says that no murderer shall enter the kingdom of Heaven (Gal 5,19-21, Rev 21,8). If you have done this Repent today. If you do not repent and ask God for forgiveness this is what will take place on your day of judgment. Your children will come as a witness against you and say “You were my mother , you were my father, and you took my life”. They love you, they forgive you, but if you do not repent of that sin, you will go to Hell for eternity. Inside of the churches this sin has been committed.

Embassy of Heaven Church plus followers #fundie pamphlets.embassyofheaven.com

(originally italicized)
One of the most difficult parts of our ministry is acknowledging what the Word of God says about marriage and divorce. We live in a generation where divorce and remarriage are accepted by society and the church. But it was not always so. Historically, the church upheld what Jesus and Paul preached - if anyone remarried while their spouse was still alive, they committed adultery. It has only been during the last 50 years that the church has relaxed her standards and allowed remarried couples to join the church.
The following story is one couple's response after studying God's word on marriage and divorce. Eric and Kathy have decided they can no longer continue to live as man and wife:

(content of Eric's letter)
Some changes have developed here regarding my relationship with Kathy. You were very gentle about remarriage in your newsletters, but you were right. After reading the Word of God about divorce and remarriage and praying about it, Kathy and I have decided to separate. I am presently working on another place for her to live, realizing that our former spouses still live. That is a major change which I feel the Lord will honor.
It is the dead of winter now and there is no particular place for her to go, but Lord willing there is a house that is coming up for rent in April. I am going to be sleeping in my study and we are working things out from there. It is right brother, and it is what needs to be done. It is very clear from the Word of God.
Another change is that Kathy has decided to put her children back in public school. I am sorry that she has elected to put them back into a state school, but looking at it from a practical standpoint, she has no choice. She has no man. She has no husband.
She needs to be reconciled to her husband - but he is terrible. He is a drinker and has a married woman for his girlfriend. It is just one awful thing after another. Unless he is saved and repents, there is no possibility of reconciliation.
The fact of the matter is that Kathy and I must separate because that is now the revealed will of God. And because we are separating, she cannot educate her children at home because she will probably have to do some work to pay bills in addition to his support payments. Practically speaking, that is what is going to have to happen. That is why claiming residency in Heaven can only work with a husband and a wife properly married and subject to the Lord.
I have done some reading on what the church's position on remarriage has been in the past. Absolutely, almost 99 percent of the time, no church member was ever allowed to remarry while their spouse was still alive, with the one possible exception of "abandonment" under the Westminister Confession of Faith. It has only been within the last fifty years that churches have accepted into membership those who have remarried.
The truth of the matter is that what you have been saying in your newsletters is exactly what the Lord says. If a person is married to another person while their spouse lives, even if they were legally divorced, they are committing adultery. It is as clear as a bell in the Word of God: "Anyone who divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery, and the man who marries a divorced woman commits adultery" Luke 16:18.
When God looks on the situation, He sees a nation of adulterers. And they have justified their adultery under the name of marriage, under the guise of marriage. They are deceiving themselves into thinking that they are not sinning.
I look around and I see what has happened in this country. I see no power of God in any churches. I see no evidence of His movings - even in the most fundamental circles. Could the reason be that most of God's people are living in a condition of adultery?
I attend a church periodically and I would say that over 50 percent of the couples there are remarried. Is it any wonder why going to church becomes just a humdrum religious event? These people are walking in disobedience and the pastors are afraid to preach against this sin because they are going to lose their members. And if they lose their members, they are going to lose their offerings. And if they lose their offerings, then they are out on the street. They will have to go to work. After all, preaching is a job, like any other job. I just see it as one great big vicious cycle - and I am contributing to it in this fashion.
I don't think marriage can work unless it is a first marriage - one husband, one wife and children. When you have another spouse trying to tell these children from another marriage what they need to do, you have a problem. It is just not natural. That is why remarriage is an unnatural state of affairs. In spite of the fact that she is a lovely wife, it cannot work. I see why the apostle Paul said, "better to remain as you are" (1 Corinthians 7:26,27). If you have been divorced, seek not a wife. If you do, you are asking for a whole host of complications that will impair you from being able to do the will of God in other areas.
I think as far as being divorced and not being able to remarry, you have to get your eyes off of self. This is another classic example of the state granting you a privilege that God has forbidden. This shows again that the state is in conflict with the Word of God. By people's lives, they evidence what privileges they want and remarriage is one of those privileges.
I was just reading a book on humanism and one of the things they promote is divorce and remarriage. Humanism is Romanism under the guise of another title. Everything centers in man, begins in man and ends in man.
In your Thanksgiving newsletter, No. 925, I was reading about the lesbian woman. Of course she is in obvious error - but the day is coming when that evil will be looked upon as acceptable behavior. Just as divorce at one time was looked upon as horrid, now it is okay. It is just one thing after another.
In your response to her, you said her brother was on his third marriage. Well, if remarriage is wrong on the third marriage, why would it not be wrong on the second? When does it become wrong? Does it become wrong on the second or the third or the fourth? Remarriage is wrong the second time, while the spouse is yet alive.
The truth is the truth and if we really love the Lord we will do His commandments. If we really love the person we have been living with, we will do what is best for them. That is, we will keep the Lord's commandments, and not be selfish.
Kathy and I were talking, "Well, maybe we should look for the blessing of the Lord." I said, "We don't have to look for anything from God, He has revealed it in His Word. What more do we need?" If it was something like, "Go to Africa and be a missionary," then we would look for certain leadings and evidences of His leading that way. But when it is so obvious and plain that He puts it in His Word, there is no need for any further confirmation.

Christ's servant,
Eric

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(A believer argues, which is also worthy to include)

Paul and Rachel,
Greetings. Just received your newsletter. My heart is troubled to read of the split-up of Kathy and Eric. Your false teaching in this matter of marriage and adultery is bearing its fruit.
In the pure sense, the man with whom a woman first had physical relations is her first "marriage." Your wife, Rachel, if applicable, would need to go back to this man if we followed your argument.
God forgives as we repent. Your false teaching is destroying Godly unions (children and spouses). It promotes public school as women are left alone to fumble in confusion, and the parents' actions turn children away from God as they live with and witness these confused parents.
Unless you publicly repent of this false teaching, please remove us from your mail list.

Carol

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Dear Carol,
You stated that the man with whom a woman first had physical relations is her first "marriage." We disagree. Having sexual intercourse does not make two people married. Marriage involves making a lifetime commitment to each other. When two unmarried people have sexual intercourse, each of them commits the sin of fornication. Fornication is a sin that God will forgive if we repent.
In the Old Testament, if a man lays with a damsel who is a virgin, and not betrothed, and they are found out, the law compelled the man to make her his wife.
If a man finds a young woman who is a virgin, who is not betrothed, and he seizes her and lies with her, and they are found out, then the man who lay with her shall give to the young woman's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife because he has humbled her; he shall not be permitted to divorce her all his days.
Deuteronomy 22:28-29
The Mosaic law that compelled the couple to marry was an attempt to right a wrong. However, the act of having sexual intercourse did not make them married. They still needed to participate in some form of marriage ceremony.
Jesus taught that a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife until death do they part. If the couple did not make such a lifetime commitment to be joined as one flesh, they were not married.
As far as Kathy enrolling her children in public school, we do not approve. Separating from an ungodly relationship is not an excuse to send the children back to the foreign schools of the state.
Carol, I will not recant the word of God. Therefore, we have removed you from our mailing list as you requested. If you desire to receive further newsletters, please contact us. PR

Steve Ham #fundie answersingenesis.org

The Sufficiency of Scripture for Helping People in Need

Author Steve Ham explores the consistency between the positions of biblical creation and biblical counseling concerning the authority of God’s Word and its sufficiency in the lives of all believers.

Recently I had the opportunity to read and review the book Counseling the Hard Cases.1 This book places the biblical counseling movement on display as it reports the process and outcomes of real-life counseling cases. As a biblical creationist, I was continually encouraged to find the counselors’ dedication to the sufficiency of Scripture for helping real people with real problems. While preparing a review of this book as a graduate student at Southern Baptist Theological Seminary in Louisville, Kentucky, I became even more aware of the consistency between the positions of biblical creation and biblical counseling concerning the authority of God’s Word and its sufficiency in the lives of all believers.

Biblical Authority and Medical Science

I noticed the strong correlations between biblical creationists and biblical counselors in the first chapter of Counseling the Hard Cases. Both positions face accusations revolving around the nature of authority and science. For example, many “Christian counselors” are convinced that the use of such treatments as hypnosis or psychotropic drugs are based on strong scientific research and analysis.2 Persuaded that this research comes from an authoritative source, they then integrate it into their counseling methodology.

Like most “Christian counselors,” trained biblical counselors typically take great care to refer counselees to doctors for necessary medical diagnosis and treatment of their physical ailments. However, for spiritual issues the biblical counselor seeks to ensure that Scripture is seen as the supreme authority and sufficient to help all believers deal with trials (suffering) or sin in their lives. Biblical counselors also should acquaint themselves with the research related to such things as medication, noting which recommendations are based upon repeatable, testable observations and which are based on assumptions influenced by a secular worldview. This is also why biblical counselors prefer to work in partnership with physicians who are Bible-believing Christians. In recognition of secular worldview influences in the medical community, many biblical counselors have armed counselees with questions to ask their practitioners who prescribe medications such as anti-depressants. Especially if a diagnosis is as broad as the term “chemical imbalance,” biblical counselors will encourage questions such as the following:

• What tests were performed to prove that the problem exists?
• What proof do you have that the problem you discovered is not merely a symptom of a deeper problem?
• What proof do you have that the medication you are prescribing truly corrects the problem?

Properly Diagnosing the Problem and Its Remedy

In today’s world it seems nearly every social or relational problem known to man is categorized by a descriptively named disorder and often treated by some psychotropic drug. In many cases, counselors and others re-label sinful responses to situations in a way that removes personal responsibility. For example, lashing out at your children in anger is now known as Intermittent Explosive Disorder, and “it’s not your fault” that you act the way you do. If your son consistently disobeys your authority as his parent, he will likely be diagnosed with Oppositional Defiant Disorder. These disorders are often depicted as villains maliciously attacking their victims as if they were a force unto themselves. When seen in this light, these problems become the cause of debilitation for many people who find themselves lost in a hopeless dependence on secular psychological techniques and prescription medication.

This wrong perception of relational problems that are ultimately rooted in sinful thoughts and behaviors has sadly become commonplace even in the church. Many counseling practitioners have attempted to make a compatible partnership between Christian doctrine and worldly philosophies in the diagnosis and treatment of the human soul.[

Scripture Is Sufficient to Help with the Problems of Life

To address this issue, Counseling the Hard Cases reports on real-life case studies from eleven experienced biblical counselors. Compiled by editors Stuart Scott and Heath Lambert, the introduction clearly sets forth the theme for this collection of biblical counseling case studies.4 In the development of the modern biblical counseling movement over the last fifty years, persuasive evidence shows that “Scripture is comprehensively sufficient to do ministry with people experiencing profound difficulties in their lives” (p. 23).

While the sufficiency of Scripture in counseling is the basic thesis of the book, in each of the hard cases the editors have been careful to display this concept practically in the lives of real people. Even for those who are not skeptical about biblical counseling, the results of these hard cases were amazing and gave great cause for rejoicing in the redeeming grace found in the Cross of Christ.

The biblical counseling movement has been criticized by those who are skeptical of the sufficiency of Scripture for counseling. Secular psychology understandably views the Bible as irrelevant, but many “Christian counselors” acknowledge the Bible’s relevance yet deny its sufficiency in the way that they practically advise their counselees. We expect people with a purely naturalistic view of the human condition to dismiss biblical wisdom in counseling, and therefore this book primarily answers the criticisms of “Christian counseling.”

One of the primary criticisms of biblical counselors is that they use the Bible to somehow replace science and therefore ignore the consensus of secular research for dealing with psychological problems. But the proof of scriptural sufficiency for biblical counseling is convincingly “in the pudding.”5 This book helps put to rest the misconception that biblical counselors ignore science as the reader observes them partnering with trained physicians to treat real and identifiable physical problems. It is in the power of the Holy Spirit and the gospel of Christ, through the voice of the counselor, that the application of biblical truth guides a responsive counselee to healing and sanctification.

When discussing counseling methods, a key question to ask is this: does the authority to diagnose the many human dysfunctional behaviors come from man’s word or God’s Word? Heath Lambert is quick to point out that the counseling debate is profoundly centered in presuppositions. He refers to Jay Adams, who stated that his presupposition in counseling methodology is “the inerrant Bible as the standard of all faith and practice” (p. 8). It is clear that each of the contributing authors commences his or her counseling approach with the same presupposition as Adams. To some, this presupposition may seem like an intellectual debate about methodologies. But the ten extraordinary cases presented in the book consistently confirm the truth of this idea in real-life situations as the hope of Christ transforms lives and frees people from bondage to sinful thoughts and behaviors. So, a presuppositional approach to Scripture is not simply a debate about truth; it is also entirely practical.

Can the Bible Help with the Hard Cases?

Like biblical creationists, biblical counselors have never claimed that the Bible is a science textbook.

Other accusations against the biblical counseling movement have come from a misinterpretation of the doctrine of the sufficiency of Scripture. Critics claim that the Bible is not a science textbook, and therefore it is ill-equipped to help with so-called psychological disorders. The answers to such claims are well stated in this book.

First, secular psychology fails to prove that many of the human problems “classified as mental illnesses” are related to any real “disease or illness at all” (p. 8). This ultimately means that the “science” of secular psychology has its own problems with regard to the definition of observational (i.e., testable, repeatable) science, by which a hypothesis is repeatedly tested and either proven or denied. As a prime example, no one really knows how certain neurotransmitters relate to conditions like depression and anxiety. Yet various medications are prescribed to correct imbalances that have not been accurately defined.

Second, critics from the Christian counseling movement suggest that biblical counselors are using the Bible in place of “science” or as a “science” textbook. But, like biblical creationists, biblical counselors have never claimed that the Bible is a science textbook. Within all the different genres that Scripture takes, the biblical counselor starts with a commitment to the authority of God’s Word. So, instead of viewing human problems in the light of a secular label such as a phobia or disorder, biblical counselors present human problems as Scripture does—in terms of the problem of human sin and suffering and the answer in the gospel.

Real Help and Change in Transformed Living

Reading through each of the hard cases, one soon comes to the realization that these scriptural truths are not just words on a page. Instead, the case studies show there truly is transformational power in the living Word of God (Hebrews 4:12). The same God who saves us from everlasting destruction also brings us into a life that exemplifies His grace. Even more enlightening is the fact that many of the people whose stories are told in this book found genuine healing after having first been disillusioned by the debilitating effects of anti-depressives, hypnosis, attempts to relive a better childhood, and various other secular treatments.

The list of documented cases contains “disorders” that many pastors have dispatched in the “too-hard” basket. They include an extreme example of sexual abuse, obsessive-compulsive disorder, bipolar disorder, and more. A purely theoretical book cannot touch the impact of this book in retelling what these real-life experiences reveal about the sufficiency of Scripture in the counseling process.

One final thing that should be mentioned in respect to these cases is the book’s consistent theme highlighting the believer’s satisfaction in Christ, confidence in the gospel, the power of the Holy Spirit, a commitment for prayerful reading and application of Scripture, and the supportive care of the local church community. The counseling process is shown to engage not only one counselor but God working through His Word and the community of believers in the heart and mind of the counselee.

The Powerful Word of God

I heartily recommend this book to pastors and any believer needing to witness the powerful nature of the Word of God to gain confidence and steadfastness in the faith—and anyone with a desire to help others:

I myself am satisfied about you my brothers that you yourselves are full of goodness, filled with all knowledge and able to instruct one another. (Romans 15:14, ESV)

Footnotes

1. Stuart W. Scott and Heath Lambert, eds. Counseling the Hard Cases. Nashville, TN: B&H Publishing Group, 2012.
2. “Christian counseling” is a term most often associated with counselors who are prepared to integrate secular psychology’s methodologies and treatments into their counseling.
3. Answers in Genesis has produced an excellent video on this very topic called Counterfeit Counseling by Pastor Brad Bigney.
4. Dr. Stuart Scott, one of the editors of Counseling the Hard Cases, spoke at the Answers for Pastors conference in October 2013 on the sufficiency of Scripture in biblical counseling.
5. This is not to say that every biblical counseling case ends successfully. God’s Word—our fully reliable and sufficient source of truth—requires the believer to submit and obey in humility, but sadly, some people do not submit to the authority of Scripture.

Frankie Lee #fundie wnd.com

[Matt Barber says he won't support Trump because he's not a Christian]

Matt Barber,how come you get conned by Liberal Medias,uttering the same nonsense?

U:He was humble because he was humbled.

Me: Trump is the most humble man,I had ever seen.It doesn't fit the Medias narrative,right?

For ages,Trump humbled before his employees,contributed Funds to many people,had a low profile...ironically he is high profile?He welcome people,black or White, never show himself as Proud.Yes,he is boastful,but not prideful.

U:“I don’t like to have to ask for forgiveness. Why do I have to repent or ask for forgiveness, if I am not making mistakes?”

Me: Every Christian agrees with Trump,that is,we should not make mistakes,or sin,but only doing the Right thing;and only when you make mistakes,you ask for forgiveness.

What is wrong on Trump response?Nothing.Nil.Zero.The only right perception we must have is...Trump was insisting that we must be righteous.Trump seek to do the right thing only...his goal,his passion and his life...by being Righteous.

Instead of applauding him,False narratives were all over the places,and some Christians were dupe,and include you.

Michelle #fundie nowtheendbegins.com

Pope says we must confront polarization and things that divide us – however, again unbiblical – as Jesus was clear, that we would be divided and that is normal.

The pope talks of hope and healing and peace and justice with no mention of Jesus Christ whatsoever (not a single time) even though He is the only answer.

Pope is a flagrant socialist: he said we must move forward as one – spirit of solidarity – generosity with the community and pool our resources and times and support each other respecting differences and convictions of conscience. The Bible says that there is no difference in the conscience – there is either right or wrong – there is no area for discussing what that is because God has laid it out for us.

Pope said various religious denominations built society and strengthened – today the voice of faith continue to be heard-voice of love. The Bible says that “God is love” and Jesus said “if you have seen Me you have seen The Father” – this means that the only true love is Jesus Christ – the pope never said His name once.

the pope said politics expresses oneness – greatest good – community that sacrifices interests to share goods, social life (socialism!)

referenced martin luther king (nothing about Jesus) and said his “dream” continues – he is happy that america continues to be a land of dreams which awaken what is best for the public. (this is irrelevant to one’s eternal salvation and destiny). The Bible says not to focus on the “things that are seen, but on what is unseen” (meaning eternity),

Pope said millions came here to pursue dream of future – we are not fearful of foreigners because most of us were once “foreigners” – in other words, we must accept illegal immigration.

Pope says we must reject mindset of hostility in all – adopt a mind of effort to share all (cough cough – socialism)

pope said seek the same things for others we seek for ourselves – help others (essentially carry them!) However, Jesus said if a man does not work, let him not eat! and Jesus said we will ALWAYS have the poor among us.

pope said if we want security let us give security; if we want life, let us give life, if we want opportunity let us provide opportunities – the yard stick we use for others will be the yardstick which is used for us – however, NO mention once of abortion. Not once.

spoke about human life at every stage (this was a part I started to actually get excited about and I thought he’d mention abortion) but the only thing he mentioned was that this conviction has led him to want abolition of the death penalty!! nothing on abortion but instead he said we must seek “rehabilitation” of criminals. Jesus never mentioned that society should do that – no one can be rehabilitated unless they are born again and unless Christ changes their life.

pope talked more about creation and redistribution of wealth – a/k/a socialism!

the pope said that the common good includes the earth and environment (as he flies around the world on his jet)

the pope said the environment is most important – calls for effort to redirect our steps and address the environment caused by humans – a standing ovation for the environment!? this world has gone mad – seriously.

David J. Stewart #fundie jesus-is-savior.com

Hugh Hefner would have been stoned to death in the Old Testament if a godly kind reigned over the land. But, even though I am sad for Mr. Hefner, I do not pity him, because he had 91 years to repent toward God and receive God's forgiveness through Christ's sacrifice on the cross. The Holy Bible plainly teaches that God has no pleasure in the death of the wicked, and neither do I. I am sad that Mr. Hefner didn't die in the Lord. Instead, he died in his sins. It is sad indeed. While the ungodly world rejoices in celebration over the wicked life of the man Hugh Hefner, redeemed Christians mourn (yet rejoice that he is gone) over the his death. ...

Ezekiel 33:11, “Say unto them, As I live, saith the Lord GOD, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways; for why will ye die, O house of Israel?”

God was good to Mr. Hefner, as He is to ALL OF US. Psalms 145:9, “The LORD is good to all: and his tender mercies are over all his works.” Luke 6:35, “But love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your reward shall be great, and ye shall be the children of the Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and to the evil.” Hugh Hefner lived a long and enjoyable life, too much so, and God extended every opportunity for Hugh to repent, but he spit in God's face. Ecclesiastes 11:9, “Rejoice, O young man, in thy youth; and let thy heart cheer thee in the days of thy youth, and walk in the ways of thine heart, and in the sight of thine eyes: but know thou, that for all these things God will bring thee into judgment.” Judgment day has come for Hugh Hefner. His time of mercy has expired. HELL IS HOT ENOUGH!!!

galaxyhi #fundie city-data.com

I can't believe you're comparing child abuse to stealing a car. Or even to a murder. In terms of impact for the victim and family, of course being dead is worse than being raped. BUT in terms of what it takes to do that to another person, I can see a stupid kid, bad situation, drugs, guns, a momentary stupid decision, and someone's dead. But to molest a child they have to put in time to groom them, they have to look at that child's face and they have to then proceed to do sexual things, with a child. Same goes for rapists of adults and torturers.

I could never, ever be friends with a child molester, but someone who'd killed someone during an armed robbery and fully repented and was trying to make amends to the world, yes, I could be firends with them.

I am NOT comparing anything to anything:

Point IS: A CRIME IS A CRIME IS A CRIME....Ask ANY VICTIM of one.

Alienation is the quickest way to get them to re-offend. You want TWO {or more} victims instead of just one? Then Go ahead, alienate them.

NOT all put in your "time to groom them". SOme just do it anyway. On the spur of the moment. In haste.

And the robbery? planned {or groomed} just as well, not exactly a "momentary stupid decision, and someone's dead" as you put it: as the place was cased, time when least busy ascertained, when assumably most money to be in the drawer, and how the perp, once caught, bragged about "the hit". He NEVER "fully repented', as you put it. And murderers apparently are "highly regarded in prison" according to the "lock up" shows I've seen on TV...and often released into society without therapy and lessons on why their crime was bad.

Once time is served, and they are released, and been taught how it was wrong, then they can be on the road to better deeds...

~Ask the person whose car was stolen and wrecked by my friend, how he felt about "being violated" as it was stolen from the "safety of his own driveway" where he tought it/he was safe? {my firend was just "stupid", and he knows it}

~Ask the whole family whose member is now gone shot in the robbery how "violated we feel" for the fact she went to work and never came home and we had to plan a sudden tragic funeral.

~I was "home invaded" once, {meaning people at home when the robbery occurs, and in my case, held on the floor at knife point while others carted off my valuables} by a neighbor and some of his "friends"...You don't think I don't feel violated??? In the supposed "safety of my own home"? In the evening by someone I "knew" and thought I could "trust"???? I Could ALSO have been killed or seriously injured. He's been released by now, but I don't live in that state anymore.

SAME SAME for a vicitm of any crime! Violated is violated.

But the perps can be re-taught and offered to be a "changed" person.

I said IF they had: served their time, did their therapy, and learned their lesson {and granted some don't, but some DO}, AND hadn't committed any more in say 10-20 years, then yeah, I could be friends with them. I didn't say I wouldn't necessarily fully trust them with my kids alone necessarily. But I also don't trust I won't get robber again, either.

We release murderers after 20-25 years, how about other criminals? Of any type?

EVERYbody deserves the second chances we offer to parolees and to those who have served their time...regardless of the crime...as a crime is a crime is a crime.

I can forgive the home invaders, the robber, and my friend, why not others?

Its a "big man" or "big person" to forgive...but no one will forget...

Laura Jacobs #fundie quora.com

The Bible clearly states of those who do not believe what it says, Satan has blinded their eyes and muted their hearing (2 Corinthians 4:3-5). Meanwhile, these non-believers brag and make light of the fact that they look forward to going to Hell, where they will enjoy their works of evil without the righteousness of God hovering over them.

The reality is that none of us will ever escape the righteousness of God. The psalmist wrote:

Where can I go from Your Spirit? Or where can I flee from Your presence? If I ascend into heaven, You are there; If I make my bed in hell, behold, You are there. — Psalm 139:7-8

While we cannot escape the righteous judgment of God, it is also true that God, in His mercy and grace, wants to impart His righteousness through salvation to all people.

Yet there are those who refuse such a gift.

So why do people want to close their eyes to the idea of Hell when the world is talking, blogging, and writing about a literal place that intrigues and inflames such passion? Hell is not an idea, a figment of the imagination, or the setting for a horror movie. It is the hideous reality that awaits those who refuse to let God come into their lives and make them new creations, filled with His forgiveness and love.

Please hear this truth: you will not escape God’s righteousness by going to Hell.

Consider this: Multitudes do not flinch when they condemn to Hell people such as Saudi Arabia’s Osama bin Laden, Germany’s Adolf Hitler, or Cambodia’s Pol Pot; or notorious Americans, such as Jeffrey Dahmer or Ted Bundy. Their accusers do not hesitate to suggest that certain people who have “stepped over the line” of what they consider evil will land in Hell when life on earth is over. In the next breath, however, many will say, “I do not believe that God would send good people to Hell.”

Herein lies the problem — we see ourselves as good and refuse to see that we, too, harbor wickedness within. As the Bible says,

The heart is deceitful above all things, And desperately wicked; Who can know it? — Jeremiah 17:9

And further:

From within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders, thefts, covetousness, wicked- ness, deceit, lewdness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness. All these evil things come from within and defile a man. — Mark 7:21-23

You see, God does not play favorites. The sin of pride is in the same sentence as the sin of murder.

Where do you fit in? Are you like the rich young ruler who declared to Jesus that he had lived a perfect life? Or perhaps you feel only certain sins merit Hell. It does not really matter how we think of it; the truth of the Bible is what matters. And God’s Word proclaims that all people are sinners. God — not man — has set the standard, and we all fall short.

The bloggers I mentioned earlier stated emphatically that no murderer should go to Heaven. The Bible says,

The Son of Man must be delivered into the hands of sinful [people], and be crucified, and the third day rise again. — Luke 24:7

Who are these sinful people? You and me. Our sins nailed Jesus Christ to the cross, and we have His blood on our hands. But God wants the blood of His Son to cover the sin in our hearts. This is why He came. Jesus looked down on mankind and said,

“I love you with an everlasting love; repent of your sin and follow Me that where I am going you may also go.”

Many people teach today that the blood of Jesus covers all sin, regardless of whether the sinner repents or not. This is Satan’s great lie. Some believe they will automatically walk into Heaven when this earthly life is over because God is love. That would negate the sacrifice Jesus made on the cross. Don’t be deceived, for God is not mocked. God is also a God of justice and righteousness.

He is not preparing a place in Heaven for unrepentant sinners.

While we have contributed nothing to God’s free gift of salvation, there is a condition to possessing it — we must confess our sin, turn from it, and receive Christ on His terms.

This truth is repulsive to many. The pride that flaunts our self-proclaimed innocence is the very evidence of our guilt. Continuing in rebellion against God, whether the sin be pride or murder, will send souls to Hell. Then there will be no turning back, no second chances. There is no afterthought in the afterlife. Today is the time to decide where you will live forever — either Heaven or Hell. This may very well be an unpopular teaching, but popularity polls do not determine destiny for anyone.

What will be your eternal destination after this earthly life is over for you? Are you going to Heaven — or to Hell? This is the most important question you will ever face.

I pray you will answer it honestly and that you will know the reason behind it. If you say that you will go to Heaven because you are good, the Bible says,

There is none who does good, no, not one. — Romans 3:12

So if no one is good and Heaven is filled with only the righteous, who will be there? The answer is found in salvation — for God desires that all people be saved. Those who repent of sin against God, receive His forgiveness, and live in obedience to Him, God sees through the righteousness of His Son, the Lord Jesus Christ, who is preparing a place in Heaven for those who belong to Him. This is the goodness of Heaven.

The doom of Hell was not intended for human beings. God created us for fellowship with Him, though many have turned their backs on Him. Hell was created for the devil and his demons, and Satan wants to take the world with him into this diabolical place.

Don’t think for one minute that Hell will be the “hottest” happy hour of all.

The world wonders about Hell every day. It is one of the most daunting and repeated topics seen in art, read in literature, debated among educators, and heard in music.

One blog took on the subject of Heaven and Hell. As people weighed in, the discussion became a vicious cycle. Finally one commenter frantically typed in, “Could someone please explain how to avoid Hell?”

Another asked, “How do you spell Hell?”
The flippant reply was, “Hoping Evil Lives Long.”
But the Bible spells it this way: Hopelessly Everlasting, Literally Loveless.

You may be thinking, Billy, surely you do not believe all of this Hellfire and brimstone! My dear friends, it is not what I say that counts; it is what the Word of God says. Jesus spoke more about Hell than Heaven. Why? Because of His great compassion for souls. He gave His life to spare you the agony, torment, and gruesome reality that Hell is reserved for those who reject Christ.

I can tell you this: not one word about Hell in the Bible would ever make you want to go there. And no one who understands the peace of Heaven would ever want to end up anywhere else. As Scripture puts it,

He who believes on Him will by no means be put to shame. — 1 Peter 2:6

The world is talking about eternity. It is high time that the true church of Jesus Christ declares to the world the promises God gives in His Word on how to get to Heaven and how to avoid Hell.

The alternative to Hell is the glorious joy that awaits those who will follow Jesus Christ, the Savior of the world, to His heavenly home.

Jesus prayed,

Father, I desire that they also… be with Me where I am. — John 17:24

David J. Stewart #fundie jesus-is-savior.com

There are NO Biblical grounds for divorce. The biggest lie in churches today is that divorce is permissible in cases of adultery. If that were true, then what about all the other sins one's spouse can commit... murder, theft, extortion, lust? Jesus taught in Matthew 5:28 that lust is the same as adultery. If you believe that lust is a sin, then every wife of a husband who lusts has grounds for divorce. Clearly, Jesus did not intend for anyone to divorce, which He makes very clear in Matthew 19:8. Divorce is always a sin.

In Matthew 19:9 Jesus simply taught that if a man's wife divorces him, then he is the victim, and not committing adultery by remarriage. She filed. It was her self-righteousness that dragged the husband into court. By comparing Scripture with Scripture, it is plain that divorce is never permissible. The person who files for divorce is sinning, and has no Biblical grounds for remarriage (to do so is the horrible sin of adultery, Matthew 5:32). The Apostle Paul is careful in 1st Corinthians 7:10 to use the word “depart,” concerning the wife who leaves her husband; but Paul does NOT mention putting away (divorce). The wife who departs is clearly commanded not to shack up nor remarry.

Divorce is one’s unwillingness to forgive their spouse! No wife would ever divorce her husband if she truly loved him—not one! I don’t care if he beats her, she won’t divorce him (leave, yes; divorce, no). Say what you will, I don’t recall any disclaimer in the wedding vows for spousal abuse which would permit a divorce. And by the way, there are NO Scriptural grounds for divorce.

Society Has Gone Insane

Women today have been brainwashed by domestic violence literature to seek divorce at the first sign of abuse. I was recently reading a pamphlet from an organization called VARO (Victim’s Advocates Reaching Out). There are thousands of such non-prophet anti-violence and abuse organizations all across America. I couldn’t believe what the VARO pamphlet said inside. There was a listing of “signs of abuse,” with questions, and then at the bottom they requested for the reader to seek help at once if they answered” yes” to any of the questions. One of the questions was, “Is your spouse tracking your time?”

Another asked, “Does your spouse ever make any belittling comments to you in front of others?,” “Are you often criticized for little things?” Another question asked, “Has your spouse ever tried to prevent you from contacting friends or family?” One of the questions asked “Has your husband ever forced you to have sex against your will?” The implications are clearly against an authoritative husband who decides where, when, what, who, and why concerning his wife’s life, activates, and friends.

"Who’s teaching the women? We know that many socially conservative organizations are now teaching men to be good fathers. Think about it. Women are learning about issues of marriage and dealing with husbands through Women’s Studies courses (feminist and humanist propaganda), local “battered women’s shelters” (which disseminate more of the same in each community) and many other kinds of organizations that teach women to be independent—independent from husbands. Women are also taught by such organizations to know the incentives to divorce (propaganda and tactics that make divorce an easy lifestyle option for them). Most conservative organizations have been recipients of some of the same liberal, anti-family propaganda—many without knowing it." -Men's News Daily

You probably won’t like this; but a husband has a God-given RIGHT to decide who his wife associates with, where she goes, when she goes there, when she has sex with him, how she dresses, et cetera.

Memaw #fundie forums.catholic.com

I would trust a Christian counseling , (working with GOD), way over a secular counseling. (They don't seem to work all that great anyway.) It worked for Josh, now if people will just stop making victims of the Duggars and let them get on with their life, Josh and his family too. That happened many years ago, they have moved on very nicely and live a very Christian life. Which is more than we can say about to many in our society. When ADULTS condone abortion, homosexuality, sex with anyone they want, even when married to someone else, pornography, trash on TV, etc,etc and etc. Who are we to judge a young boy for making bad judgements and repenting and asking forgiveness for them. And making a GOOD life for himself. The law was supposed to protect him from all this media trashing but the law failed this young man and his family. And many are jumping on the band wagon. It is unfair for those who were molested by someone to take it out on Josh. Forgiveness brings a lot of peace. The Duggars have handled this very well. They helped their son while safeguarding the other children. I give them a lot of credit on how they did that. How about we just leave them alone so they can get on with their life in peace. God Bless, Memaw

Kim Harrington #fundie masterbuilder.org

We have learned in our experience with demons over the years that they are legalists--they cling to the letter of the law, not the intent of a sincere person's heart. For example, we once cast a spirit of nicotine out of a man who hadn't smoked in years. He had changed his lifestyle in obedience to God, but because he had not specifically repented, renounced the demon and cast it out, it remained, hoping to trip him up again in the future.

Repentance is a necessary part of deliverance. Where there is no repentance there is no deliverance. As out text says, godly sorrow leads to repentance and repentance leads to deliverance (the word "salvation" in the original Greek covers the whole arena of healing, deliverance, and freedom available to us in Christ, and is just as properly--perhaps more accurately--rendered "deliverance"). If a person has not repented, then he is still working on the demon's side in that particular area; though he may be remorseful of certain aspects of the bondage, he is still not forsaking the sinful behavior that brought it on. In order to get deliverance from demonic affliction, the individual has to repent, out loud, to the Lord, and ask forgiveness. Even if it's assumed that repentance has taken place, for the sake of the legalistic demons, make it just as clear as possible by going through a prayer of repentance.

Lions of Israel #fundie therealjewsareblack.com

JESUS CHRIST (YAHAWASHI) IS A BLACK MAN

Read: Revelation 1:1, 13-15, Daniel 10:5-6: If Christ walked the Earth today he would be known as a so-called 'black' man. That is the truth that esau (so-called white man)and some of our ignorant people (Israelites) always run away from. They use the cliche 'what does Jesus' color matter'; it matters for truth sake.

Read St. John 4:24, 8:32, and 17:17: Our people (Israelites) cling to a false image of a dirty blond hair, blue eyed, hippy looking, rock star homo that the world considers to be JesusChrist found hanging on the walls of ghetto churches, bodegas, homes, cathedrals, kingdom halls, and just about anywhere they feel the need to post up that graven image. In reality that man's actual name is Cesare Borgias, a murderer, pervert, liar, and the second son of pope Alexander the 6th of Rome. It is a false image of Christ painted by Michelangelo during the renaissance period. The picture to the right is a more accurate depiction of Christ that can be found in the King James 1611 version of The Holy Bible.

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Revelation 1:14-15 "His head and his hairs were white like wool (the wooly textured hair of the negroes - black people), as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire; and his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace." Jesus Christ skin color is so dark that the Bible compares it to brass that had been BURNED in furnace! SO JESUS CHRIST IS A VERY DARK SKINNED BLACK MAN.

What about the 12 tribes of Israel? Yes, they are black too.

Read Isaiah 29:22, Jeremiah 14:2, Lamentations 4:8, 5:10, Job 30:30, Song of Solomon 1:5, Acts 21:37-39, Exodus 2:17-19, Numbers 12:9-12.

Are the angels black? Yes, read Ezekiel 1:7, 27-28.

For hundreds of years the white man (esau) has tried effortlessly to white wash the true image of Christ and the saints. But in these last days the truth is being revealed more and more. The information age; with books, the world wide web, and knowledge at everyone's fingertips, has made ignorance no excuse for those who seek The Most High (YHWH) through Christ.

This is the image our people love to post up in their homes and businesses. If only they knew that the man on the left is the same as the one on the right. His name is Cesar Borgias and he is a filthy, stinking, incestuous, homo, murdering, adulterer who had syphilis. That man was beneath the status of a dog yet the 'history' books paint a valiant and shrewd picture of the damn faggot. He posed as the image of Christ and to this day the world still believes it. Our people need to read more and do their research instead of getting caught up with the distractions of the world. Do not worship this image - you are breaking the first commandment (Exodus 20:2-3) Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

HOW TO REPENT FROM SIN

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TAKE THESE IMAGES OUT OF YOUR HOMES, FROM AROUND YOUR NECKS, AND WRISTS, OFF YOUR SKINS, AND WHEREVER ELSE YOU HAVE THEM. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!!!!! (EXODUS 20:3-4)

Repentance: Repentance is the confessing, forsaking, and amending of sin and returning to keeping of the Laws, Commandments, Judgements, Ordinances, and Testimonies of The Most High (YHWH). Proverbs 28:13, Ezekiel 33:14-16

Sin: Sin is the breaking of the Laws, Statutes, Commandments, Judgements, Ordinances, and Testimonies of The Most High (YHWH) which are found in the bible 1 Samuel 15:22-24.

The Most High (YHWH) commands that we, His people Israel, repent from sin, 2 Chronicles 7:14: "If my people which are called by name (Israel) shall humble themselves (put away pride and confess sin) and pray (to The Most High YHWH not false gods) and seek my face (search scriptures and find out what The Most High YHWH says is right or wrong on every matter) and turn from their wicked ways (stop breaking His Laws, Statutes, Commandments, Judgements, and Ordinances) then will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins. This clearly shows that if we, Israel, repent when we make an error, mistake, and committ sin then The Most High (YHWH) himself will forgive us. This proves repentance (turning from sin) is an actual commandment given to Israel by The Most High (YHWH).

Read Jeremiah 18:8, Proverbs 24:16. Further evidence of this is found in Ezekiel 14:6: "Therefore say unto the house of Israel thus saith The Most High (YHWH), repent and turn yourselves from your idols. Repentance from breaking His laws is commanded by The Most High (YHWH) to his people Israel.

Read Ezekiel 18:30-31. Repentance in the past was done through the sacrifice of an animal for sin Leviticus 4:1-35. Repentance today is done through the Messiah's sacrifice for the sins of Israel, Matthew 26:26-28, Acts 5:29-31. What this basically means is that if a sinner takes all of these steps and actions then they have a chance that their sins will be forgiven by The Most High (YHWH). If not, then The Most High (YHWH) will not forgive their sins.

Read Leviticus 26:14-19, 1 Samuel 15:22, Proverbs 28:9, 13-14, 18, Proverbs 29:1, Ezekiel 3:19, 33:9.

Bro. Randy #fundie net-4-christ.org

WHAT IF YOU HAVE LOST YOUR PURITY?

While it is true that in the eyes of God a sexual sin is no different than any other sin, it is a transgression of the law of God. However, sexual sins also have a unique aspect to them. Sexual sins can create a unique set of penalties that remain with you for the rest of your life. Unlike stealing, for example, the memories of a sexual sin will taint your relationship with your spouse. Sexual sins can also eliminate your qualification for certain aspects of the ministry. These sins destroy homes and lives. Since you can never completely recover from a sexual sin, what can you do if you have already committed the sin?

Acknowledge your sin to God. Confess it. 1 John 1:9 says, “If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.” The idea of confession throughout the Word of God is two-part. Confession involves an agreement with God that what you have done (the sin) is wrong. After all, if you haven’t done anything wrong, why do you need forgiveness? Second, confession involves repentance. While we often think of repentance as the guilt associated with sin or as doing something to make up for the sin like a type of punishment, neither is true. Repentance is actually a turning away from the path — literally, to think differently. So, when you confess your sins to God, you agree with Him that they are wrong and you turn from the sins.
You should also find a prayer and accountability partner. Although you do not need to reveal all of the sordid details, you need to find a prayer partner and let him in on the secret. This may be a parent or your youth pastor, but it should be someone you know would not gossip about you. James 5:16 gives us the example here: “Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.” By taking your problem to someone else, you now have someone else who is praying for you, as well as someone who can keep you accountable.

You also need to commit your future dating relationship to the Lord. After you have confessed your sins to God, and repented of them, you need to seek the will of God in your dating relationship. It is likely that you simply are not ready to begin dating. As we have discussed earlier, dating is simply a process for confirming whom the Lord has chosen for you as a spouse. You need to submit yourself to God’s will in this matter. This may mean that you do not date for several years. You should even consider breaking all relationships with anyone of the opposite sex. This way, you can simply avoid any temptation to sin by not being around anyone who can cause you to sin. Finally, you need to take some steps to prevent this mistake from happening again. After you have confessed your sins, you need to cleanse your thought life.

88Will88 #sexist reddit.com

Whether you are talking about plates, STRs or especially LTRs, you can never forget that she is a child. She has the body of a woman but the more attractive and feminine she is, the more childlike she is. Neoteny is the adult retention of child like traits. The studies on this are not clear but there is some evidence which suggests that having a more childlike face as an adult elicits better responses and more resources from other adults. There has been a previous post on this but the science is not complete. Some researchers have suggested that evolution due to sex selection may have occurred due to males seeking more neotenous features in female faces. So while the science is still thin on this one, to me it makes sense.

We do not need science to tell us that women are children. It is a well established red pill truism so I am going to proceed with this post on the assumption that neoteny due to evolution or sexual selection has resulted in more attractive women being more childlike not only in appearance, but more importantly in their minds. Remember the last time you bought your girl a soft toy? Remember her jumping up and down like a child and clapping her hands? Well what more proof do I need.

It can be easy to forget that you are sitting with a child when you are alone with your girl. After all you just violated her in whatever lewd fashion that happened to take your fancy. She has a grown up job and went to university, she seems to understand the plot of Game of Thrones (she doesn't). You have also grown up being told that she is your equal and she deserves your respect (she isn't and she doesn't). So how do we break through this illusion of maturity?
You break the illusion by observing her behaviour and her reactions. Why does she still have soft toys on her bed? Why does she have hello kitty pyjamas? Why does she cry when watching movies? Why is she scared of moths? Why is her favourite food ice cream? Why does she vote when she has no concept of the left or the right? Why do you spank her? That's right, of course! It is because even though she looks like an adult, and you have been conditioned to believe she is an adult, she is actually a child.

How do we use this secret and powerful knowledge to our advantage? We use it to make our lives easier, to quell the frustration we feel when they misbehave, to encourage behaviour we find desirable and importantly, we use it to help her live a happy life thanks to our alpha guidance and protection. Your girl does not want to think and she certainly does not want to lead, that is the job of an adult. You are the grown up in the relationship, so act like it.
If a child misbehaves then a good parent corrects their behaviour either with loving guidance, stern words, or in extreme cases, a spanking. Women are no different from children. A good parent does not lose their temper (frame) when a child misbehaves. Next time she misbehaves try and remember that she is a child and you will not lose frame. It mentions on the sidebar that the best way to treat your girl is like she is your daughter (obviously we excise the sexual aspect for the purpose of this discussion, this is a thought experiment and a lesson in frame).

A lot of behaviour which would be considered beta is perfectly acceptable within the context of a decent relationship when you are alpha enough (whether plate, STR or LTR). It is fine to talk in a silly voice to your girl, buy her a stuffed toy, play childish games with her. Do it sparingly and use it as a reward for good behaviour. Always stick to the 2:3 ratio of giving her 2 rewards for every three she gives you. Having some childish fun with your girl has several good effects. Firstly it is a great display of comfort, secondly it makes her think that you are her dream guy, the alpha who has feelings (of course you are faking it - you viscious, Machiavellian, testosterone beast) and it appeals to her true nature, the child within.

In my opinion this knowledge is most useful within the confines of an LTR. When your woman is acting out, remembering that she is a child helps you to hold frame. Always know that you are the adult and you are making ALL of the decisions. Knowing that she needs to be comforted and made to feel safe, and providing that adult guidance for her will improve her behaviour dramatically. Treating her as an equal is the dumbest thing you can do, would you ask a child to help you build a house? So remember that if you are alpha enough, it is OK to have some fun with your girl. A teddy bear given to a girl by a nerdy, fat, cunt-struck teenager is "creepy!" the same teddy bear in the hands of Chad is "adorable!"

AnotherOldGuy #fundie rr-bb.com

Would anybody here condone, support or even encourage me if I said I wanted to commit murder? That's forgiveable isn't it? What's the difference between that and divorce? Maybe I want to go take my neighbor's new riding mower because I'm not happy with mine. Mine is difficult to start, is hard to push - it's going to give me heart attack. God will forgive me.

Divorce is not a knee-jerk, spontaneous slip. It is a carefully planned, meticulously executed deliberate act. One consciously and intentionally places his desire over a direct command from the Lord.

Embassy of Heaven Church #fundie pamphlets.embassyofheaven.com

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Fornication
Joe and Lucy have sexual intercourse. Because neither Joe nor Lucy have ever been married, they commit the sin of fornication. If they repent, God will forgive them.

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Family
Joe and Janey get married and vow to love and cherish each other until death do they part. Joe and Janey have sexual intercourse and the marriage bed is undefiled. There is no sin in their sexual relationship because they are married. It is their commitment to each other for life that makes them married, not their having sexual relations.

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Adultery
Joe and Janey obtain a divorce from the state. Later Rocky finds Janey, a divorced woman. They make vows promising to love and cherish each other until death do they part. Their "marriage" is legal under the state, but God sees them as adulterers. Janey has already made a lifetime commitment to love and cherish Joe. If she has sexual relations with another, she violates her marriage covenant and commits adultery.
Rocky also commits adultery when he marries Janey because she is divorced from her husband. Jesus says, "Whoever divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery; and whoever marries her who is divorced from her husband commits adultery" (Luke 16:18).
Through the marriage vows, God has made Janey one flesh with Joe and what God has joined together let no man tear apart (Matthew 19:6). Janey was not free to marry Rocky. She is still married to Joe until Joe dies. If Janey and Rocky repent of their adulterous relationship and sin no more, God will forgive them.
If Janey wants to return to God's favor, she has two choices: remain unmarried, or be reconciled to her husband (1 Corinthians 7:11).
If Rocky wants to return to God's favor, he must separate from Janey. Assuming Rocky has never been married, he is free to marry another because his marriage to Janey was not marriage in God's eyes.


Background
When Joe and Janey were married, they were young and foolish. Neither believed in Jesus Christ. Yet they did make a solemn commitment to be faithful to each other "until death do us part." There is a price to be paid on judgement day if that commitment is violated by marrying another.
Joe and Janey also bought a house and made a commitment to pay a 30-year mortgage. If the terms of that mortgage are not met, there is a price to be paid. They cannot just make the excuse that they were young and foolish and be relieved of their commitment. No, they will have to uphold their commitment or lose the house.
When we get married, it is not just a 30-year commitment. It is a commitment for life. As the years go by, we may find our spouse less than ideal. Many problems arise and we see other potential partners who are far better suited to our tastes. But unlike the 30-year mortgage, we cannot close out the first obligation (marriage) and step into a new one.
If you are married to an unbeliever, but they are willing to live with you, you are not to obtain a divorce (1 Corinthians 7:12-13). If the unbeliever departs, let them go. You are not forced to live with them (1 Corinthians 7:15). However, nowhere in scripture does it say that once they have departed, you are free to marry another.

Ray Comfort #fundie onthebox.us

“He who sees the eyes of a child beaten and molested while his God watched is a seriously sick person for believing in a God.”

It is thoughtless to jump to the conclusion that nothing created everything, simply because God doesn’t immediately punish evil. If He intervened and had Judgment Day today, where would you stand under the light of moral perfection? God is holding back from punishing child molesters, rapists, adulterers, fornicators, homosexuals, those who lust, hate, lie, steal and covet, because He is rich in mercy and willing to forgive all who repent and trust in Jesus.

Peter Kreeft #fundie peterkreeft.com

Sex is, quite simply, our society’s new god; our new Absolute. Anything is done, tolerated, sacrificed, justified, sanctified, glorified for this god.

A third of our mothers murder their unborn babies in sacrifice to this god. Of course abortion is about sex. The only reason for abortion is to have sex without babies. Abortion is backup contraception.

Or, look at the acceptance of divorce. Families, the one absolutely necessary building block of all societies are destroyed for this god. Half of American citizens commit suicide for this god; for Divorce is suicide of the ‘one flesh’ that love has created.

No one justifies lying, cheating, betraying, promise-breaking, devastating and harming strangers; but we justify, we expect, we tolerating doing this to the one person we promised most seriously to be faithful to forever. We justify divorce.

No one justifies child abuse, except for sex. Divorce is child abuse for the sake of sex.

Even all the churches justify divorce, except one: the one that does not claim the authority to correct Christ–and she is accused of being authoritarian.

Paul Forshaw #fundie quora.com

You have to repent of your sins and open up to the Lord admit your faults and then you have to do two things 1. You have to accept God’s forgiveness with all your heart mind and soul. 2. You have to believe that Jesus and God the Father are forgiving you of your repented sins…remember though they know a true repentant sinner..so you cant have any doubts…..final note look in the New Testament where Jesus ..heals a person and says “ Go your Faith has saved you” ..having faith is in my opinion a gift and something very valuable in fact priceless, without it DOOM ! There are billions unfortunately for various reasons lack of faith one of them will not make it.

Whatever religion you have …Jesus says the ONLY way to The Father in Heaven is through HIM ALONE…I am fearful for all these people with Animal Headed Gods etc..

CH #fundie heartiste.wordpress.com

CH has been at the forefront of predicting rather astutely that beta males experience worse results in a sexual market where women are economically self-sufficient and can follow their tingles to alpha cad land, and conversely do better (i.e., maritally or otherwise lock down prettier women in their beauty primes) in a sexual market where women are increasingly out of work and needing a charmless company stiff to support them. Right on cue, a news report states that a major “sugar daddy” dating website has seen a 50% increase in sign-ups since the government shutdown, and that half of the new members are single moms.

A lot of government bureaucrats are women. A lot of government teat sucklers are women, many of whom are single moms with low impulse control. When the money flows freely, the pussy flows freely… to fly-by-night alpha males with the right mix of JERKBOY CHARISMA. When the State Sugar Daddy money spigot slows to a sad dribble, so too does the willingness of women to indulge their darker desires with exciting but unreliable swains. In tough times, beta provider males enjoy an expansion of their sexual market niche.

Do you know what wonderfully focuses the mind of a single mom? Visions of her bratty bastard starving to death in her arms. Yep, works every time.

ADDENDUM

In related ?SCIENCE? news, a study found that divorce risk correlates with the wife’s share of household income.. The more money your wifey makes relative to what you make, the likelier it is she will stick the divorce court shiv in your hide. This shouldn’t be news to regular guests of Le Chateau, where we have been saying for a fucking long time that economic self-sufficiency reduces women’s need (and thus desire) for beta provider males, and creates incentives for female-initiated divorce and cad chasing. However, it’s always a fun time when one of these studies comes out reaffirming ancient wisdom. You just know it gets under the skin of the right sorts of degenerate freaks.

Game-less beta males who espouse feminism are really working against their own romantic interests. One wonders if they realize this, or if they do but just enjoy the feeling of cucking themselves into prostrate submission.

Padraig Martin #homophobia #transphobia identitydixie.com

[From "They Push Too Far: The LGBT Movement"]

The Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender (LGBT) movement is falling apart. It may not seem so, with all the pathetic corporate pandering and the endless stream of gratuitous gay characters on television, but it is. They have pushed too far and now public opinion is turning faster than ever before. This is especially true in the Godly South.

It is seemingly inescapable. Everywhere you turn you are confronted by detestable quasi-rainbow flags. I use the term “quasi” because that is what they are. The rainbow has seven colors; the gay pride flag has six colors. This is no surprise to those who know the Bible. The rainbow is a manifestation of God’s promise to Noah that such destruction will never befall His people again. Thus, what greater means of co-opting a Biblical narrative than using an emblem of God’s promise? But as in all things Satanic, the pride flag comes just short of a Godly promise.

Satan does not create, he imitates – and he always does so in a way that allows the Christian to see with clear eyes his deviancy.

Of course, there is something else that Satan does as well: he always pushes the envelope too far. The beautiful cherub described in the Book of Ezekiel never knows his limits. From contesting God to turning men from Christ, Satan, the father of lies, eventually gets what is coming to him. He always loses.

Satan’s latest manifestation – the worldwide acceptance of unnatural sexual deviancy and the eradication of masculinity – is not new. In fact, the Bible is quite clear on the subject of homosexuality. Leviticus 18:22 calls homosexuality an “abomination.” Leviticus 20:13 calls for something else.

Of course, Christians will point to the fact that Christ has borne our sins and therefore, through Christ, one can repent and not be killed for such depravity. But there is an inconvenient caveat. The operative word is “repent” – as in, to feel truly sorry for the act and to ask of God’s forgiveness. Continuing to engage in homosexuality, consequently, is not only an act that suggests one has not repented, but that Christ was never truly embraced in the first place. 1 Corinthians 6:9 is quite clear about the sinfulness of homosexuality. Gay pastors like to point out that 1 Corinthians 6:11 follows up with a note of Christ’s eternal forgiveness: “And that is what some of you were (gay). But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.” They forget the conditional modifier in the scripture. Paul uses the term “were,” as in formerly gay men who – thanks to Jesus – are no longer gay.

Thus, when so-called gay rights activists call out heterosexual Christians for also sinning, it is just Satan trying to mislead with twisted truth. Of course, we sin. Jesus died for those sins. But none of our churches should welcome the continuation of those sins, nor would the truly repentant Christian continue to celebrate his or her sins.

The absurdity of so-called pro-LGBT Christian churches and congregations is laughable. Name a pastor who is exalted for being a known murderer or rapist. Name a church that puts out signs saying, “Welcome My Whoremongering Brothers!” Name a church that puts out a flag indicating support for its adulterous congregants. I have yet to identify the Methodist Church that has “Thieving Thursdays.”

God forgives sin; Satan glorifies in it.

However, all of this may be coming to a head. Support for LGBT “rights” and acceptance is dropping like a stone. A recent study by the Public Religion Research Institute showed that LGBT support among Millennial Republicans dropped from 74% to 63% – eleven basis points or approximately 15% in one year. Among the reasons cited were the outrageous behavior of homosexuals at gay pride events, transgenderism, and the societal bullying of individuals who do not support LGBT actions, such as conservative Churches or bakeries.

[...]

In a USA Today article referencing the same poll that GLAAD used, world leaders were surprised by the swiftness of the drop in LGBT support. Perhaps that is because LGBT “rights” are seen more clearly by less politically correct and more honest world leaders. Brunei’s Sultan Hassanal Bolkiah wants gay men stoned to death. Kenya’s High Court just upheld laws criminalizing homosexuality. Not to be outdone by obscure brown countries, Poland’s Jaroslaw Kaczynski, leader of the conservative ruling party, called the LGBT movement an “immoral invasion” that “threatens the Christian Nation.” If anyone knows what an invasion looks like, it’s the Poles.

[...]

From Texas to Virginia… from Florida to Arkansas… the South once again rejected Satan.

By contrast, the states with the most pro-LGBT marks were found in the Northeast, the industrial Midwest, and unsurprisingly, the Pacific West Coast.

The LGBT movement may fool themselves, but they cannot fool God. The South, which overwhelming accepts Christ’s message, is not blinded by ostentatious displays of sexual depravity. God will not allow the South to be blinded by the beauty of Satan’s glow.

For now, be happy that these perverted freaks are pushing away the very normies who empowered them. No one who loves their children thinks “transgender story time” is a good thing. No one who loves their children takes them to a parade where simulated sodomy is the norm. Americans, as a whole, seem to be waking up.

In a Free Dixie, we will have freedom from the LGBT community. Their degeneracy will not be tolerated by a Godly people.

Lady Checkmate #fundie disqus.com

As always, I stand with the Bible-Believing Christian brethren. But, honestly, I'm not surprised nor disappointed by DISQUS sunsetting the channels. As many of the brethren are aware, for years now, a certain troll has stalked me (and several other Bible-Believing Christians), threatened our lives, issued rape-threats, posted Christian kill lists, cyberstalked us, etc., and yet, most of the other "Christian" channel owners did nothing to support us during those times. So, forgive me if I'm surprised that any of the "brethren" that allowed the same cyberstalker to use their channels to further stalk, harass and threaten us do not move me to sympathy. In fact, some of those professing "Christian" channel owners joined in on the abuse and targeted harassment, lol. You can imagine my amazement at that...I still chuckle at the thought. How will they explain abusing a Bible-Believing Christian (who has never attacked them or even mentioned their names) with reprobates and God-haters to All-mighty God on Judgment Day. In fact, check this out:

https://disqus.com/home/discussion/channel-battlegrounddiscuss/cyberstalkers_cross_channel_attacks_and_targeted_harassment/

Here is one of his death wish/kill-lists, unedited...he actually lists our usernames:

https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f1bd82017cbcc74444c2a4c4576020b6e40d9c539806c5e6e6e0f6dad7613b94.png

I thank God for people who stood with me, several of whom are agnostic and/or atheist...who woulda thought :). God is good! Those professing Christianity who abused and harassed me with reprobates should seek Jesus Christ and repent. I forgive them, but they still have to answer to God if they haven't already repented. I will not mention names because they know who they are. But, it would have been nice if you had told them, "You are very welcome to be part of this unity of Christians of DisQus. We are ALL family and we must stick together!!", when they were abusing us and yoking with reprobates against us.

In closing, please let me know how I can help Bible-believing Christians on DISQUS, but please also understand that I am ok with the sunset of channels. The ministry continues, with or without DISQUS. This season is over, but God has opened another door of opportunity to get the gospel out. Your move, boss :).

AGgal #fundie community.qvc.com

"Something I don't think you understand is that the bible WAS written by God and the new testament was written by Jesus Christ, who by the way, IS God. No one is condemning or "judging" Ellen, they are simply saying they do not agree that her lifestyle is the "typical" American lifestyle (although some would have us to believe that as well). And, the bible does condemn that particular lifestyle -- ever heard the story about Sodom and Gommorah????

God is waiting to forgive people of their sins, all they have to do is ask for forgiveness and repent (turn away from the sin). He also loves everyone, deeply. He created all of us so why would He not love us??

No, the bible was not written in English, it was written in Hebrew and Latin, which has been translated to English. Since almost all of it has been discovered and verified as original documents, and so many different people have verified the contents, it is safe to say it is, indeed, accurate.

The churches that put a "spin" on the Word, should be ignored, for the most part. I will only listen to someone who teaches the Word of God directly from the bible, book by book, chapter by chapter, verse by verse.

Being a Christian is believing that Jesus Christ came to earth and died for our sins on a cross, was buried and rose again on the third day. It does include love for everyone (love the sinner, hate the sin), but does NOT accept or embrace "any and all opinions." If that were the case, Christians would not be set apart as God's children, i.e., the church.

I do not think I am better than anyone, nor do I judge anyone, but I WILL stand up for what I believe in and will NOT let anyone degrade it. However, you are wrong on this issue. You should pick up a bible and read it, starting in the new testament book of John and go forward from there.

By the way, the Lord is waiting to hear from you. :-x"

Jason Lisle #fundie jasonlisle.com

It may help to recognize that the spiritual inability of unbelievers to repent (without God’s help) is self-imposed. They reject God’s offers of mercy and salvation, but not because of any physical inability. Rather, they have absolutely no desire to repent because they hate God’s law and they love their sin. Jesus says as much in John 3:19-20.

And so the analogy of someone with Down’s Syndrome being imprisoned because he cannot act normal is not fitting because such a person does desire to behave normally, but is physically unable to do so – the opposite of the situation with unbelievers. They do have the physical ability to obey God’s law and even to repent, but they have absolutely no desire to do so because they hate God’s law and love their sin.

A better analogy is a violent murderer who has been repeatedly offered forgiveness if only he will repent and stop murdering. But he doesn’t repent because he hates people and just loves murdering them. Is the man able to stop murdering? In one sense, yes, because his choice to murder is free and not due to external compulsion. But in another sense, no, because he will do what he desires, what he freely chooses: to murder. His spiritual inability to repent is self-imposed because he loves doing what he does. The conviction and capital punishment of such a wicked person would certainly be fair. Likewise, unbelievers do have a choice, and it is genuine. The problem is that they will choose to reject Christ every time because it is what they want – unless God changes their heart. Unbelievers do not end up in hell because they have no choice, but rather because they do have a choice and, left to themselves, they will always choose hell (Psalm 14:2-3).

my2babysmama #fundie rr-bb.com

I am most frustrated with Sundays. I study the Word all week, listen to different sermons from good Bible teaching pastors, and then I come to church on Sunday, and all I hear from my pastor is fluff. We are going through the book "Soul Shift" and today we heard about the chapter "from slave to child." The focus of the message was on changing our thinking about our approaching God from being a "slave" to being a child. We need to change how we approach God, we need to throw off the shackles of slavehood. There were so many opportunities for my pastor to preach the Gospel, to tell us how to become children of God, but he said nothing about that, nothing about repentance and the forgiveness of sins, nothing about the death and resurrection of Jesus. He said that God's ultimate goal is to bring us into relationship with Him. NO! God's ultimate goal is to bring people to salvation! No one who was unsaved in that congregation would really know how to be saved from this sermon.

The entire time I sit in church I cringe and want to crawl out of my skin. The tension builds up inside me, and I have no way to let it out. My husband is there with me, so I "complain" to him, but even though I know he is saved, he is functionally Biblically illiterate, and he has no idea what I am saying. He gets frustrated when I complain, so he says that we should go to the church that he grew up in. But that church is no better. I so much want to find a true Bible preaching church, but I don't know where to look. I have discussed this with my Sunday School teacher, but he has told me that I am being too hard on my pastor. But am I? Shouldn't the pastor know that he needs to preach the Gospel? I honestly only remember one sermon that truly presented the Gospel in the whole 2 years that he has been in our church.

Sorry for the rant. I feel this way every Sunday after church, and I don't know what to do. I have tried to bring up my concerns to my pastor before, but I have been dismissed. As I am learning more, the more dissatisfied I am with my church. But I don't know of anywhere else to go.

Shiloh Tabernacle Church #fundie pridesource.com

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A West Michigan church has announced it has canceled a public performance of a controversial religious drama that portrays a murderous lesbian with AIDS who is a victim of incest being dragged off by demons into hell.

Inspired by the Bible's Book of Revelation, "The Last Call" was performed in two Muskegon-area public schools before the community challenged the drama on the basis it violated the separation of church and state.

...

Steele teachers, staff and students were required to attend a Good Friday assembly in which a morality play of sorts was performed by more than 50 actors. In the most controversial skit, a man who molested his two teenage nieces is murdered by one of his victims, who is lesbian. Upon his death, the child-molester repents, accepts Jesus and is escorted into heaven. Upon her death, the lesbian does not repent and is seized by demons who drag her off stage amid smoke and blood-curdling screams into hell.

In another of the nine skits, a woman who had an abortion repents and is reunited in heaven with the fetus.

...

After weeks of letters to the editor and an ACLU investigation of Muskegon Public Schools, Wright announced he was withdrawing "The Last Call."

"I don't want anybody to get any information that would cause some people with a negative viewpoint to go after the schools," Wright told the Muskegon Chronicle on June 19. "I think that's what the ACLU is looking for."

...

Raza #fundie councilofexmuslims.com

[When asked: Do you know of any examples where a few slaps have saved a marriage a created a happy home?]

First of all, you have to look at all the possible choices you have with a wife who neglects the kids, no meals after you come from work etc...
1) Divorce her
2) Stick with her
3) Hit her

[...] I would pick 3rd because this can avoid the divorce and also being with her won't be so bad. But again, I can't emphasise enough that this is in extreme cases; when confronting her and when giving her "incentives" to act her part. If this fails, you are left with 2 of the 3 worst choices.

[...] my parents have both hit me and I love them unconditionally, alhumdillah. And I sometimes feel good that my mother "knocked" some sense into me. I know the relationship between spouse and parents and children are different but I can't believe that love simply cannot exist after you hit your wife.

Chris Schene #fundie patheos.com

Chris Schene: Progressive churches, such as the Episcopal and Methodist, are nothing more than friends of common culture and all its perversions,
They are enemies of Jesus Christ and of His church.
Progressive "Christian" churches are more dangerous than Satanism to people: Satanism is obviously not Christian but the progressive and emerging churches present their Pagan idolatry as Christianity and the unchurched would not know any better.
Hey, many of these Churches are great social clubs and places where fellow Pagans get together, enjoy each others' company, enjoy good food and make great friends. Most members are just not followers of Jesus.

Theodore A. Jones: Since there are only a few that find the gate to become a Christian, according to Jesus, actually encountering a Christian is slim.

Chris Schene: I my local company office of 175 or so people, only 5 self-identify as Christian----roughly 3%. They have "gay pride" celebrations from time to time, which I excuse myself from. I was somewhat encouraged that only a few people attended and the attendance was so bad, they had to reschedule it 3 times.
In the churches I have attended, they would defrock a pastor or leader for so much as attending a gay pride celebration or wedding.
If a propagandist lie, such as "gays are born that way", over a period of time those with no moral framework will start to repeat it and believe it In the same way they say they are born that way, a very lustful man could offer that same reason for "sleeping around" with many women.
It's nonsense: The behavior is a choice and inappropriate for a Christian: repent, ask for forgiveness and stop.
And so I know what the classical response will be "What about greed, divorce, etc". Sins of the spirit (Greed, lust, pride, covetousness, ...) are really hard to identify and know for a certainty and often even unknown by the person guilty of them. Sins of behavior are the only things that were even punished in the OT or disciplined in the NT because they are obvious: you know if you are committing adultery or having sex with member of the opposite sex you are not married to. In most cases we know if a divorce is unscriptural, and some churches will expel a member for such sin.

Braveheart #racist stormfront.org

It's a Wonderful Race, After All

by James Bronson (part 1)

There once was a college freshman named George who thought he knew it all. One night over dinner, George got into an argument with his father. The argument began when the young student tried to explain to his father that as White people, they should be held accountable for all the evils that they had inflicted upon non-Whites throughout history. George explained: "Because of European racism, we stole the Indians' land, we held blacks in slavery, we persecuted the Jews, and we plundered the environment. We've been oppressive racists for thousands of years so it's only fair that we pay economic reparations for all the harm we've done to the world. I'm pleased to see that we are ending our political and economic domination of the oppressed peoples."

George's dad was shocked to hear such talk. "Who put such commie-pinko nonsense into your head, boy? Did one of your sandal-wearing hippie college professors teach you that?" the father asked.

To which the son replied: "That's the truth dad. My anthropology professor, Dr. Irving Silverstein, says so. He ought to know. Dr. Silverstein is a well-respected Ph.D. People of your generation just don't understand because you were raised in a White supremacist, racist society. That's why I've come to admire Dr. Rev. Martin Luther King as the greatest man in American history. He stood up to the racists of your generation. Because of him, my generation of White kids is completely color blind."

The father angrily replied: "That's bull****! I've always been fair-minded and tolerant of people from all backgrounds and races. I haven't 'oppressed' anybody, and furthermore there's nothing wrong with being proud of one's own people, including the European race of people. Your race is in your blood. It's like an extension of your biological family and you ought to be proud of your European heritage and identity, just like every other racial group in America is proud of its. Why is it OK for them to have a strong sense of racial
identity but it's evil for us Europeans to feel that way?"

The young "intellectual" laughed at his father. "Come on dad, that's the kind of crap Hitler tried to peddle. Those racist attitudes were discredited years ago. There's only one race and that's the human race. Diversity is our greatest strength. Differences in so-called "race" are as insignificant as differences in belly buttons. And besides, UN statistics now show that low White birth rates, along with the fact that we live in an multicultural society, will mean that Europeans and their ethnocentrist and racist culture will have died out by the end of the century," young George said.

Turning red with anger, the father yelled: "You are a walking cliché, you know that, boy? And you think it's a good thing that the European peoples of the world will have faded out and ceased to exist?" Young George replied; "I think it's great! It will mean the end of racism and the end of hate. The oppressed peoples of the world would have been better off if us racist Europeans had never existed to begin with."

Suddenly there was a blast of cold wind, an explosion, and a huge smoke cloud. When the smoke had settled, George found himself alone and lost in a cold open field.

An angel named Clarence then appeared to him and said "Well George, you've got your wish."

George asked: "Where am I? What's going on here? And who are you?"

The angel answered, "George, I'm Clarence the Angel. I was sent here to show you what the world would have been like if Europeans, or Whites, had never existed. You now live in a world where Europeans never existed."

"Oh. That's cool. I'll have no problem adapting because there's not a racist bone in my body. And when I get back to my world, I'll be able to tell my professor and my friends how great this non-racist world was. Say, I'm freezing my ass off out here. Where's the nearest motel?"

"Motel?" replied the angel. "There are no motels here in what was once called North America. But there are some caves up in those mountains where you can find shelter."

"Caves? No way, man. I want a nice warm bed to sleep in."

"I don't think you understand George. There are no buildings here in non-white America because the evil Europeans never came here to build them. Whites never existed, remember? The natives live in tents. Would you like to go meet some local Indians? Perhaps they'll let you stay in a tent."

"A tent? But it's 10 degrees outside?...Oh well. It's better than a cave I suppose. Let's go talk to these Indians...... Wait a second, are these Indians friendly or hostile?"

"Why, George, that's a racist question to ask. Just because some Indians were brutal savages who scalped their victims alive, it doesn't mean they all were", said the angel sarcastically.

"I know that Clarence. And I'm not a racist. I hate racism. Nonetheless, I'd feel safer if I could have a gun to defend myself if they turn out to be violent."

"Gun?" replied the angel. "There are no guns for you to defend yourself with. Firearms were invented by evil Europeans. Though, we could make a spear with those twigs over there…"

"That's too much work. Give me a telephone then. I'll call the Indians to ask if it's OK."

"Telephone"? replied the angel. There are no telephones here. Alexander Graham Bell was another evil white man, so he never existed. No Europeans remember?" "Forget it then," replied George. "I'll sleep in the damn cave."

Upon arriving at the cave, a shivering George asked the angel for a lighter so that he could light a fire. "A lighter?" replied Clarence. "There are no lighters here, and no matches. Those are European gadgets and evil Europeans never existed remember? If you want to get warm, you need to do like the locals do and start rubbing twigs together."

"Oh come on man! You mean to tell me these people still rub sticks together for fire?"

"That's right George. The Indians live exactly as they did before the evil pilgrims arrived from Europe just a few centuries ago." said the angel sarcastically.

"I refuse to stay in this cold cave and I damn sure ain't gonna light a fire with twigs, and I refuse to sleep in a teepee. I'll go to South America. I can make it in a warmer climate and I'll adapt quickly to the great Incan civilization I learned about at college. Since European racists like Columbus, Cortez and Pizzaro never existed, the Incans will still be there... I need a car"

"Car?" replied the angel. "There are no cars here. Daimler and Benz, the evil German inventors of the internal combustion engine, were never born...nor was Henry Ford. There are no paved roads either. This is a world without evil Europeans remember?"

"No cars! Oh. I'll just have to take a train."

"There are no trains in this world either George. Evil Europeans weren't here to build locomotive engines or to discover the many uses of coal, oil and gas, or to build trains or lay tracks. But I'll allow you to cheat just a bit. Grab hold of my magic robe and we'll fly
south."

George touched the angel's robe and they flew south until they arrived in an abandoned mud hut in the midst of Incan territory. George was grateful for the warm weather but it wasn't long until he began to complain about the heat and humidity.

"Clarence, this hut is a little ****hole and I'm sweating up a storm here. Get me an air-conditioner…please!"

"Air-conditioner?" replied the angel. "There are no air-conditioners here. Air conditioning and refrigeration were inventions created by evil White men."

"What?!! You mean to tell me that in the year 2003 these people still haven't figured out a way to keep themselves or their food cool?” a frustrated George asked.

"No George, they haven't. And they never will."

"This is ridiculous. Let's go to the main city to see the Emperor. I can't live like this. Where's a car...oh I forget...no cars! Dammit I'll walk. Let's go."

After walking through the jungle for about an hour or so, it began to get dark. George then asked Clarence to give him a flashlight so that he could see. "Flashlight? Sorry George, but Thomas Edison was an evil White man too...and he was never born. There are some branches over there if you want to make a torch."

"Never mind that!" George shouted back.

By morning time, Clarence and George had arrived at the temple of the Incans. A bloody human sacrifice was in progress. George turned to Clarence and cried, "They're going to butcher that poor soul! Somebody has got to stop this. What horrible murdering beasts! Can't anyone stop them?"

The angel replied "I'm afraid not. Ritual killings are common place here.” Those evil European racists like Columbus, Cortez and Pizzaro never existed so the Incans just continued their brutal ways. In fact, it was the oppressed peoples themselves who made up the bulk of the Spanish armed forces. The people saw the Spaniards as liberators who would rid them of the oppressive Incan and Mayan rulers and give them a better life."

"I can't blame them for helping the Spaniards then. This is a horrible place. Get me out of this ****hole now!" said George.

'Where would you like to go?" Clarence replied.

George said: "Take me to Africa, maybe there's a more advanced and humane civilization there that I can fit into. Where’s the nearest airport?"

"Oh, I forgot...no Wright Brothers." George said. "How about a boat?"

"Boats?" replied the angel. "I'm afraid the most seaworthy rafts available to you won't be of much help in crossing the vast Atlantic Ocean. The great Viking sailors and European navigators never existed. No Phoenicians, no Leif Eriksson, no Henry the Navigator, no Columbus, no Magellan, no Hudson and no Robert Fulton. Even if you could build your own ship, there would be no compass for you to navigate with and no sextant either. I'm afraid you're stuck here George."

"Can I touch your robe and fly to Africa then" asked George.

"You're cheating again George, but all right. Touch my robe and we'll fly to Africa."

When they arrived in Africa, George saw thousands of half-naked African tribesmen being herded along a dirt path. They were guarded by other Africans with spears. "What are they doing to those poor men?" George asked Clarence.

"They are being enslaved by another tribe. Slavery was common in Africa long before the whites arrived," Clarence said. "In fact, most of the slaves who were shipped to the Americas were sold to the slave traders by African tribal leaders."

"That's so sad,” George said. "I want to meet Martin Luther King. Since his White assassin never existed, this great man should still be alive. He's probably a great tribal chief somewhere and leader of an advanced civilization. He will free these slaves from their African masters. Take me to him, Clarence."

Clarence led George to a little hut deep in the heart of Africa. The naked women and children looked at George in wonder. The young men were out on a hunt but the older men stayed behind. George was led to the dingy little hut of the tribal witchdoctor and spiritual leader. There he saw a wild-looking man with a necklace of teeth around his neck and a huge ring pierced through his nose. "What the hell is that?” George asked.

"Meet Witch-doctor Matunbo Lutamba Kinga" Clarence said. He never became Reverend Martin Luther King because there were no universities or seminaries built to educate him. Europeans weren't there to create such opportunities. But he did become the tribe's spiritual leader. He specializes in casting evil spells. Perhaps he can help you?"

The witch doctor gazed in wonder at George. Then he motioned to his henchmen to seize young George. The tribesmen grabbed hold of George and tied him to a nearby tree.

"Stop it! Let me go. What are they going to do to me?" cried George hysterically.

"They're going to perform a ritual killing on you, George. The good doctor King...I mean Kinga -- believes that by cutting your heart out while you are still alive, it will bring good fortune and fertility to his tribe," laughed Clarence.

"Clarence! Clarence! Help me Clarence! Help me!

"But George, you told me that you wanted to go to Africa and to meet your hero Reverend King."

George said: "This part of Africa has not developed yet. I can see that now. Take me to North Africa where Egypt and Carthage established great civilizations. Just get me out of here, please."

Just as the witch doctor's spear was about to carve out George's heart, George vanished into thin air. He then found himself on the banks of the river Nile in Egypt.

"Thank you Clarence. Thank you," George said. "I don't understand it Clarence. Why does so much of the world remain so brutal and primitive? I learned during Black History Month about many talented black inventors and scientists. Garrett Morgan, George Washington Carver, Benjamin Banneker, Granville Woods. Then there's Dr. Carson, the preeminent brain surgeon in all of America. Where are these men?"

Clarence replied: "Don't you understand yet? America, and Africa, exist exactly as they did before the Europeans discovered them. Civilization as you had known it had only been introduced to these people just a few centuries ago by the Europeans. There are no universities, no hospitals, no means of transportation other than animals, no science, no medicine, no machines. In fact, the wheel hasn't even been discovered in Sub-Saharan Africa! Those black scientists, inventors, doctors, athletes, and entertainers you speak of were never given the opportunity to realize their full human potential because Europeans weren't around to introduce higher civilization and learning to them. There are no George Washington Carvers in this non-European world, no Dr. Carsons, no Booker T. Washingtons, no Benjamin Bannekers, no Michael Jordans, no Oprah Winfreys, no Bill Cosbys, no..."

"Stop it! That can't be!" cried George. "Let's walk over to the great pyramids of Egypt right now and I'll show you one of the great wonders of the world ...built by non-Whites"

They walked a few miles before George stopped and asked where the nearest toilet was. "Toilets?" replied the angel. There are no toilets or urinals in this world. Plumbing was developed by evil Europeans. The people in this non-White world still relieve themselves in open fields."

Clarence turned around so George could do his business. "I need some toilet paper." George said.

"Toilet paper?" replied the angel. "There..."

"I know. I know. Toilet paper hasn't been invented yet. Just hand me a rag then".

Clarence obliged and the two of them went on their way.

BlkPillPres #sexist #crackpot #dunning-kruger incels.co

[Blackpill] [Hard To Swallow Edition] The Average Man Is Always Paying Women In Some Way For Companionship & Or Sex ("Courtship" Is Just "Indirect" Prostitution)

Modern human courtship norms and rituals are really just "veiled" forms of prostitution that help to ease the conscience of participants, its so that women don't feel like whores and men don't feel like "johns", but at the end of the day, there's always a transaction taking place, its just veiled behind convoluted systems and obfuscation of words and meanings, all for the sake of preserving the "human ego" and allowing us to continue to reproduce while "feeling dignified"

COURTSHIP RITUALS/SYSTEMS ARE JUST FORMS OF INDIRECT PROSTITUTION, OF WHICH THEIR SOLE PURPOSE IS THE MAKING COURTSHIP OF THE "HUMAN ANIMAL" SEEM MORE "DIGNIFIED", AS THE AVERAGE PERSON WOULD NOT ENJOY IT WITHOUT SUCH DELUSIONS

When you look at things for what they really are, its undeniable that you as a man are always paying in some way

DATING is weekly INSTALLMENT FEES

BIRTHDAYS, HOLIDAYS, SPECIAL OCCASIONS, ETC are MAINTENANCE FEES

An ENGAGEMENT RING is a DOWNPAYMENT

A MARRIAGE is a FORFEITURE OF ASSETS INTO JOINT HOLDINGS

CHILDREN are JOINT ASSETS OF SIGNIFICANT DEBT (WITH ONLY THE OTHER HOLDER HAVING LEGAL OWNERSHIP AND VETO POWER)

A potential DIVORCE is a DEFERRED PAYMENT OF 50+% OF YOUR ASSETS (WITH THAT THREAT LOOMING OVER YOUR HEAD YOUR BARGAINING POWER (LEVERAGE) IS SEVERELY REDUCED)

Potential ALIMONY following a DIVORCE are RESTITUTION FEES (FOR SERVICES THAT ARE ASSUMED TO HAVE BEEN RENDERED)

Potential CHILD SUPPORT following a divorce are MAINTENANCE FEES on JOINT ASSETS (WHICH JUST LIKE WITHIN MARRIAGE YOU HOLD NO SAY OVER)

ETC, ETC, ETC


At the end of the day, as a man, you are ALWAYS PAYING, this is why it always confuses me to hear men say - "I don't want to pay for sex, I want someone who is with me for me", then they proceed to "date" and that person is only going out with them BECAUSE THEY ARE PAYING FOR THE DATE

Unless you are splitting the bill on most occasions, guess what, YOU ARE PAYING THAT WOMAN FOR COMPANIONSHIP (AND THE MERE POSSIBILITY OF SEX)

Angelina Zombrano #fundie goddiscussion.com

Hell; Lake of FireAngelica Elizabeth Zambrano Mora of Equador claims that when she was 17, she died for 23 hours and was personally given a tour of heaven and hell by Jesus. Her mother, a devout Christian, says the girl died but admits that she did not call a doctor because she wanted to give God 24 hours to bring Angelica back to life.
The Christian devotee says that there were all kinds of people in hell, including her relatives and famous people. Kids who play Pokeman or watch too much TV are in hell. She alleges that demons are running all over the place, back and forth from hell to earth, turning people from the lord. She claims that she saw Jesus weeping profoundly because he couldn't do anything about it.
Among the celebrities Angelica says she saw being tormented were:
Pop musician Selena, who supposedly "would scream and demons would hurl spears from afar into her body and she would cry, 'Help me, Lord, have mercy on me, Lord!' But the Lord told her, 'It is too late.'"
Pope John Paul II, tormented for eternity 'because he did not repent' and had amassed a great deal of wealth. According to Angelica, "He had a large serpent with needles, wrapped around his throat, and he would try to take it off. I pleaded with Jesus, 'Lord, help him!' The man would scream, 'Help me, Lord; have mercy on me; take me out of this place; forgive me! I repent, Lord; I want to return to Earth, I want to go back to Earth to repent.' The Lord observed him and said to him, 'You very well knew. You knew very well that this place was real…It's too late; there is no other opportunity for you.'"
Michael Jackson was in hell, according to the Christian girl, because he made a pact with the devil to become famous. She warns, "Anyone who listens to Michael Jackson's songs or sings them or who is a fan of Michael Jackson, I warn you that satan is trapping you in his web so that you will end up in hell. Right now, renounce it in the name of Jesus! Jesus wants to set you free, so that you will not be lost."
Thousands and thousands of people are choosing to walk straight to hell, the young doomsdayer proclaims on her website, and that demons hold meetings in hell, plotting out their attacks.
The young woman then goes on to describe the rapture, which seems almost as bad as hell:
Daughter, I am going to show you something: How I am coming to Earth for a holy people. I am going to show you how the day of the Rapture will be." We walked to a place with a giant screen, and I saw people in it. I could observe the whole world. Then suddenly I saw thousands of people disappearing. Pregnant women had their pregnancy disappear ,and they looked like they had gone crazy screaming.
Children had disappeared from all over. Many people were running from here to there, screaming, "This can't be, this can't be! What's happening?"
I saw those who had known the Lord, that were left behind. They were saying that Christ had come, the Rapture happened. They screamed and wanted to kill themselves, but they couldn't. The Lord told me, "Daughter, in those days, death will flee; Daughter, in those days the Holy Spirit will no longer be on Earth." There were accidents but I didn't see a single dead person: all of them were alive, although injured.
After the Rapture I, observed enormous traffic with thousands of people. He told me, "Daughter, look, this is how everything will happen." I then saw people running from one place to another, shouting, "Christ came, Christ came!" They would plead, "Lord, forgive me, forgive me, take me with You!" But sadly the Lord said, "It's too late. The time to repent is now."
Angelica has apparently turned to preaching the gospel along with her schooling. She has a Spanish language video which tells people that they need to repent. Her story is popular on Christian websites.

Linda Harvey #fundie wnd.com

I’m getting kind of tired of being manipulated by “pink.”

It’s the signature color of Planned Parenthood, one more sham to deceive women into feeling cuddly and protected as they seek services at a human slaughterhouse.

Big Abortion wants to attract you with the fluffy pink of their banners and T-shirts, to reassure you about your safety, to evoke in you a loving response to the little girl colors of innocence, childhood and goodness.

But the blood of unborn babies is not pink. It’s red. God help us, it’s red.

Thank the Lord, there’s another kind of blood that can cover these sins for women who want forgiveness and restoration, and that’s the blood of Jesus Christ. He will forgive even the repentant abortionist.

But it’s not just Planned Parenthood that’s weaponizing pink propaganda to mislead women. There’s the breast cancer “awareness” industry, or as some might call it, Big Breast.

And October is “Breast Cancer Awareness Month.” So get ready to be conned.

David J. Stewart #fundie jesusisprecious.org

God Commands Believers to Love One Another in Sincerity, With a Pure Heart, Fervently

The sinful man from 1st Corinthians 5:1-5 repented, and wanted to come back to church. Paul tells the church in 2nd Corinthians to forgive and let the man return, lest he be overwhelmed with grief and sorrow...

2nd Corinthians 2:4-7, “For out of much affliction and anguish of heart I wrote unto you with many tears; not that ye should be grieved, but that ye might know the love which I have more abundantly unto you. But if any have caused grief, he hath not grieved me, but in part: that I may not overcharge you all. Sufficient to such a man is this punishment, which was inflicted of many. So that contrariwise ye ought rather to forgive him, and comfort him, lest perhaps such a one should be swallowed up with overmuch sorrow.”

I actually apologized in 2017 to the shameful neo-evangelical pastors of Harvest, merely because I was so lonely for fellowship with a local church (as messed up as they all are at Harvest). I figured I would fit right in, since we are all messed up to some degree. But no, there are no second chances at Harvest. And besides, at this point if they ever took me back, the people in the church world hate me, because their pastors fail to teach them to love, forgive, let go and restore broken relationships. If professed Christians refuse to love one another, as the Lord commands, then that is on them.

The pastors and church members of Harvest Baptist Church on Guam, have shunned and punished me, ostracizing me, mocking me, putting me outside the gate with Jesus. I sincerely believe that is why their present pastor since 2000 is leaving for a cushy job in the states. I believe deep in his heart he KNOWS what he has done to me is very wrong. I took a stand for truth! I didn't apologize in 2017 because I had done anything wrong (as did the man in 1st Corinthians), I apologized for not being more patient with new-evangelicals!!! The truth is that THEY owe me a big apology, and moreover, God Himself for betraying the Gospel and the verbal inspiration of God's Word. For me to apologize to them is like casting pearl before swine, which is what I did, because desperate people do desperate things.

Bryan #fundie stream.org

You are absolutely correct that Justice demands the punishment fits the crime. In human terms, that's why there are human laws that deal with the crimes of man. However, human punishment has no bearing on the soul of the individual. Human justice cannot punish the soul, only the body. Therefore, human justice is incomplete.
The reason eternal torment is necessary is for the soul. When we sin, not only is it usually a mental and/or physical act of defiance towards God. It is also a spiritual act of defiance towards God. It's "I don't need you to tell me how to live my life, my soul is fine on my own". That's the sin Adam & Eve committed against God in the Garden and why the spiritually died that day. At the end of life, the soul lives on and it would seem that as it was in physical life, it is in physical death. If it accepted Christ's gift of salvation, then it is spiritually reborn and lives forever, glorifying Christ. If it did not accept Christ's gift of salvation, then it is spiritually dead and forever curses Christ.

Calminian #fundie christianforums.com

What a great opportunity to show the world what true Christianity is. What a great opportunity to explain Christian forgiveness.

There's a debate raging about whether a man's past should condemn him. I think about the woman at the well. Christ forgave her very recent adultery. Yet we're struggling today with forgiving something Trump said 11 years ago about the attitudes he displayed many years before that.

Really? Maybe this is more of a commentary on the modern legalistic Church. Many of Trump's opponents are in legalistic cults like Mormonism. His top critic is Glenn Beck who touts the teachings of Joseph Smith often in his radio show.

Angelica Zambrano #fundie christiscoming777.com

THE BACKSLIDER

The Lord said to me, “Are you ready to see what I am going to show you?” “Yes, Lord,” I said. He took me to a cell where I could see a young man being tormented among the flames. I noticed that the cell was enumerated, though I couldn’t understand the numbers, they seemed to be backward. There was a huge plaque in that cell, and the young man had the number “666” on his forehead. He also had a big metallic plate that was encrusted into his skin. The worms that were eating him, were unable to damage that plate; neither did the flames burn it. He screamed, “Lord, have mercy on me. Take me out of this place. Forgive me, Lord!” But Jesus would respond, “It’s late, too late: I gave you opportunities and you would not repent.”

I asked Jesus, “Lord, why is he here?” Then I recognized him. On Earth, this young man knew the Word of God, but abruptly he walked away from the Lord, preferring alcohol, drugs and walking on the wrong path. He did not want to follow the way of the Lord. Jesus warned him many times on what could happen to him. Jesus said, “Daughter, he is in this place because anyone who rejects My word already has a judge: The Word that I have spoken will judge him in that last day,” (John 12:48) and then Jesus wept.

When the Lord weeps, it’s different than we do. He would weep with this pain in His heart and He would sob profoundly. “I did not create hell for humanity,” Jesus said. So I asked Him, “Then why is humanity here, Lord?” He answered, “Daughter, I created hell for satan and his angels, who are the demons; (Matt. 25:41)but, because of sin and the lack of repentance, humanity ends here, and there are more that perish than those who reach My glory!” (Matt 7:14) He continued weeping and it would hurt me so much to see how He cried. “Daughter, I gave My life for humanity, so that it would not perish, so that it would not end up in this place. I gave My life out of love and mercy, so that humanity would proceed to repentance and could enter the Kingdom of Heaven.” Jesus would moan as someone who could no longer withstand the pain, that’s how much pain He felt watching the people here.

PlentyGroovy #fundie prophecyfellowship.org

The issue is the gay agenda. The media has picked up on 'civil rights' aspect and are running with it. It is most definitely not a civil rights kind of problem. It is a lifestyle choice much like smoking cigarettes.

They are allowed in the door, they are allowed to attend church. But if they flaunt it, bring in a partner, that sort of thing, they will likely be asked to repent and if the church offers counseling, they will probably be assisted in counseling to help them learn how God can help them overcome. God doesn't wink at sin and a good, bible believing church doesn't overlook it either.

Angelica Zambrano #fundie christiscoming777.com

LATINA POPSTAR SELENA IN FLAMES

The Lord told me there were many famous people in Hell, and also many people who had known about the Lord. He said, “I am going to show you another part of the furnace.” We came to a place where a woman was surrounded by flames. She was in great torment and would scream, begging the Lord for mercy. Jesus pointed to her with his hand and told me, “Daughter, that woman that you see over there, surrounded by flames, is Selena.” As we started getting closer, she screamed, “Lord, have mercy on me, forgive me Lord, take me out of this place!” But the Lord looked at her and said, “It’s late, it’s too late. You cannot repent now.”

She saw me and said, “Please, I beg you, go tell people about this, please speak out and do not be silent; go and tell them not to come to this place; go and tell them not to listen to my songs, nor sing my songs.” (1 John 2:15) So I asked her, “Why do you want me to go and say that?” And she answered, “Because every time people sing and listen to my songs, I am tormented even more, the person who does this, who sings and listens to my songs, is walking to this place. Please, go tell them not to come here; go tell them that hell is real!” She would scream and demons would hurl spears from afar into her body and she would cry, “Help me, Lord, have mercy on me, Lord!” But sadly, the Lord told her, “It is too late.”
I looked all over that area, it was full of singers and artists who have died. All they did was sing and sing, they wouldn’t stop singing. The Lord explained, “Daughter, the person who is here, must continue doing here, whatever they did on Earth, if they had not repented.” ((TAKE HEED of this warning regarding worldly music and throw it away!!))

THE UNREPENTANT

As I was observing the area, I noticed a lot of demons that were spilling down some type of rain. I actually thought it was raining. But I noticed the people in flames running away from the rain and shouting, “No, help me, Lord!…No, this can’t be,” and the demons would laugh and tell the people, “Praise and worship because this is your kingdom forever and ever!” I saw the flames increase and people’s worms would multiply! There was no water there, it was brimstone that would multiply the flames and increase each person’s anguish. I asked Jesus, “What’s happening?…Lord, what is this?” The Lord replied, “This is the wages of anyone who has not repented.” (Psalms 11:6)

A POPE IN HELL

Then the Lord took me to place where there was a very well-known man. Before now, I used to live as a double minded young Christian girl. I used to think that any person that died would go to Heaven; that those who celebrated mass, would also go to heaven, but I was wrong. When Pope John Paul II died, my friends and relatives would tell me that he had gone to heaven. All the news on TV, on Extraand many other places would say, “Pope John Paul II has died, may he rest in peace. He is now rejoicing with the Lord and his angels in heaven” and I believed all of it. But I was only fooling myself, because I saw him in Hell, being tormented by flames. I looked at his face, it was John Paul II! The Lord said to me, “Look, Daughter, that man that you see there, is Pope John Paul II. He is here in this place; he is being tormented because he did not repent.”

But I asked, “Lord, why is he here? He used to preach at church.” Jesus replied, “Daughter, no fornicator, no idolater, no one who is greedy and no liar will inherit My Kingdom.”(Eph. 5:5) I replied, “Yes, I know that is true, but I want to know why he is here, because he used to preach to multitudes of people!” And Jesus responded, “Yes, Daughter, he may have said many things, but he would never speak the truth as it is. He never said the truth and they know the truth and although he knew the truth, he preferred money over preaching about salvation. He would not offer reality; would not say that hell is real and that heaven also exists; Daughter, now he is here in this place.”

When I looked at this man, he had a large serpent with needles, wrapped around his throat, and he would try to take it off. I pleaded with Jesus, “Lord, help him!” The man would scream, “Help me, Lord; have mercy on me; take me out of this place; forgive me! I repent, Lord; I want to return to Earth, I want to go back to Earth to repent.” The Lord observed him and said to him, “You very well knew. You knew very well that this place was real…It’s too late; there is no other opportunity for you.”
The Lord said, “Look, Daughter, I am going to show you the life of this man.” Jesus showed me a huge screen on which I could observe how this man offered mass many times to the multitudes. And how the people who were there were so idolatrous. Jesus said, “Look, Daughter, there are many idolaters in this place. Idolatry will not save, Daughter. I am the only One who saves, and outside of Me, no one saves. I love the sinner, but I hate sin, Daughter. Go and tell humanity that I love them and that they need to come to Me.”

As the Lord was speaking, I began to see how this man received multitudes of coins and bills; money, all of which he would keep. He had so much money. I saw images of this man seated on a throne, but I was also able to see beyond that. While it’s true that these people do not get married, I can assure you, I’m not making this up, the Lord showed it to me, those people do sleep with nuns; with many women there! [1 example]

The Lord showed me these people living in fornication, and the Word says that no fornicator will inherit His Kingdom. As I was watching all of this, the Lord told me, “Look Daughter, all of this which I am showing you is what goes on, what he lived and what keeps on happening among many people, among many priests and popes existing.” Then he told me, “Daughter, go and tell humanity that it’s time to turn to Me.”

David J. Stewart #sexist jesus-is-savior.com

Feminism is a two-headed monster! The feminist movement is the brainchild of Communism, as is the homosexual movement and the civil rights movement. These "rights" groups have done exceedingly much to undermine America's moral integrity. After Martin Luther King Jr.'s death, his wife Coretta spent the remaining years of her life promoting homosexual rights. So much for their alleged Christian roots. Martin Luther King Jr. denied the deity of Jesus Christ, lived as a whoremonger, and was involved in at least 64 Communist fronts. Please read my recent article on The Dangers of Feminism, which addresses the Feminist/Communist connection. You may also want to read Feminist Theology, which is a clear indicator of just how insane feminism has become. Feminists hate the man's authority so much that they have even redefined God to include a feminine side (which is damnable heresy).

The entire American court system today is feminist biased. It is wicked in the sight of God that the American court system REFUSES to recognize a husband's Biblical RIGHT to "rule" over his wife (Genesis 3:16). Every husband has a God-given right to RULE over his wife. Yes, that means he has a right to track her time, and her friends, and her whereabouts, and her spending. A feminist loathes the thought of being accountable to a man. Feminist logic dictates that a wife is EQUAL in authority with her husband; but God says NO! A wife is commanded by God to OBEY her husband, just as Sara Obeyed Abraham, calling him lord. 1st Peter 3:6 states, "Even as Sara obeyed Abraham, calling him lord..." There are victimized husbands all across America, who's rebellious wives divorced them, and now those poor men have to pay alimony. It is a sore evil in America when a wife can rebel against her husband year after year in a marriage, and then punish the husband further by taking him before a heathen judge to FORCE him to support her. Why should a husband have to support a lazy, irresponsible, and rebellious wife? Husbands have few rights in the American court system. If a man's wife decides not to obey him anymore--there is nothing he can do about it! This is horribly wrong. A rebellious wife needs to be punished by the courts, not rewarded.

Divorce is an evil sin, and God hates it (Malachi 2:16). Rebellious wives ought to be locked up in prison, not given alimony. No psychiatrist will ever diagnosis a wife as being "rebellious" against God or her husband. We live in a rebellious world (Ephesians 2:2; 1st John 5:19). Every day, millions of people are misdiagnosed. Drunks are said to be "sick." Rebellious wives are said to be "depressed." Homosexuality is called "genetic." Gambling is considered an "addiction." At what point does personal responsibility and character come into the picture? Much of what the feminist movement defines as "abuse" nowadays is perfectly acceptable behavior for a Biblical husband. For example: feminists teach women that it is abusive for a husband to track his wife's time. Not at all! Every husband has a right to know where his wife is at at any given time. The responsible working father and husband is under severe attack in America. Even "Christian" wives have been brainwashed by lying demonic feminist propaganda. "Christian" women are increasingly divorcing their husbands. Divorce is a horrible sin, and there are NO grounds for a divorce. Proverb 31:12 ought to be every Christian wife's life verse ... "She will do him good and not evil all the days of her life."

AmericanBelle1 #fundie wnd.com

Separation of church and state has been misinterpreted by the left just as SCOTUS has misinterpreted the Constitution. This is what happens when progressives get power...they use it to destroy.

The separation of church and state means that the government cannot CREATE it's own religion or otherwise make itself a dictator of religion. It is not a clause that allows religion to be struck from the public square, nor does it allow for the persecution of people with religious beliefs. The Constitution guarantees that people have the right to express their religion publicly.

Atheists, communists, progressives, homosexuals....they have deliberately and intentionally misconstrued the First Amendment because they refuse to live by the moral code found in religion. They have fought to get it taken out of the public square and out of the Constitution as a right. Go through all the damage done by these people, and also look at their behaviors at any given time. They lie, cheat, practice immoral sex acts, and they all just plain act immorally, unethically and unconscionably. And they do so because they do not accept the religion or its adherence to a moral code. To them, this is proper behavior; and unlike those who have religious beliefs, they have no intention of ending their illicit behaviors. Those of us who do have a moral conscience understand that we also partake in bad, immoral behavior, but we concede such, ask for forgiveness, repent, respond as Jesus asked us to..."to sin no more."

Separation of church and state is NOT in the Constitution or any where else in government documents. Jefferson ONLY mentioned it once in his response to the Baptists, the so-called veil of separation, meaning the government would not go after the Baptists if they had a cake sale after church services on Sunday. As it was a part of the Baptists church activities, Jefferson told them to go ahead. In those days, if you knew your history, commercial activities were not allowed on Sundays...it was a day for church and family. THIS is the true meaning of separation of church and state as Jefferson wrote it simply to a specific request to allow commercial activities on Sunday. His simple response, which has been taken soooo out of context, was merely confirmation that the state/government WOULD NOT INTERFERE IN CHURCH ACTIVITIES!

The church(es) don't stay out of government business...they have hospitals, schools, and other institutions and organizations to help the poor, to provide adoptions, and to be a part of the government in very many ways.

Most importantly, beyond any reasonable doubt, is the INTENT of the Founders/Framers of how this government would work and what its powers were. Foremost is the fact they based our government and founding documents on Christian/Judeo beliefs. The Declaration of Independence makes this pluperfectly clear: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,..." That means that GOD endowed us with the unalienable rights of life, liberty and PURSUIT of happiness...NOT the government. And what GOD has given us, no government can take away. Our entire government is based on this declaration.

Further, the Declaration also states: "That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed." WHAT THAT MEANS is that when we find ourselves in a government that usurps our declaration, when the Government rules however it wants with total disregard to our rights, when the people find the government is ruling us by changing our laws for "light and transient" causes (such as SCOTUS did with gay marriage!), then "WE THE PEOPLE" have the right to ABOLISH this government and institute a new government that will act accordingly to our Constitution and Declaration of Independence.

THAT, my friend, is what separation of church and state means.

Blue_Tiger #fundie rr-bb.com

I know I'll probably get as much flak from this next post as I did two years ago, but this is weighing heavily on my heart and mind, and I believe that another "threshhold line" is being approached with the movie Juno which is up for Academy Award for Best Picture. Two years ago, when Brokeback Mountain was nominated for Best Picture of the Year for the 78th Academy Awards, I wrote that we -- The United States of America -- as a nation should expect Judgment from God if Brokeback... was the winner of Best Picture. I believe that, this year, if Juno wins Best Picture, we should see God's judgment as well. I may receive a lot of criticism (just like I did in `06 with Brokeback...), but I believe that this abomination of a movie is one of the worst ever made, and the fact that it has been nominated for Best Picture is a line in which the USA cannot, and must not, cross, as this will affect millions of teens world wide, encouraging them to totally disrespect their parents and their parents' authority, and enter into (or continue in) sexual relationships, which -- as statistics show -- is unhealthy, dangerous, and ultimatetly destructive for all parties involved. The fact that Juno glosses over the consequences of teenage sexual promiscuity, teenage pregnancy, and parental authority, not to mention glorifies divorce, and makes a mockery of sexual purity in general, is enough to make one wretch and weep at the direction modern society is going towards. I seriously fear for world-wide society at large, and US Society in particular, if such a movie is given the highest award in the world that a film can receive. And yes, I do blelieve that God will seriously expedite his execution of sentence for the USA if Juno wins best picture...

David J. Stewart #fundie jesusisprecious.org

The dictionary defines the word “vulgar” as, “Lacking refinement or cultivation or taste.” Taylor Swift's music videos are VULGAR! She's a temptress! A big tease! A sex symbol for Satan! These video producers and Miss Swift are perverted and evil!!! Miss Swift continually bends over, expressing an impudent whorish look upon her face, wearing bedroom attire, seducing the viewer, and behaving shamefully. This is heathendom at it's worst!!! Every God-fearing Christian ought to be upset about this ungodly trash!!! Taylor Swift is a homewrecking tramp!!! She's a bimbo female who needs to go put her clothes back on and keep them on!!! If you want honor, then stop behaving like a pig in the hogpen of sin!!! SHAME ON TAYLOR SWIFT!!! SHAME!!!

Honestly, if someone from a decent culture came to America, they would be shocked and highly offended by such lewd filth. What Taylor shamefully does in her music videos is just as evil as if you walked into a store and saw a lewd woman rolling around sensually on the floor, opening her skirt, showing her underwear, gyrating her thighs and looking like a Marilyn Monroe prostitute. The store manager would call the police, she'd be arrested and removed, and the judge would force her to undergo psychiatric treatment!!! The Devil hates you teenager!!! The Luciferians behind the occult music industry hate you! Taylor Swift by her actions is showing that she hates you too! No woman who aborts her baby would admit to hating her child, but do you call murdering your baby “love?”

Evil always begets more evil. When Taylor Swift stands before God, she is going to find out all the destructive consequences of her wickedness—the rapes, fornications, child molestations, divorces, adulteries, wife beatings, et cetera—which have occurred because of her amoral, sexually-perverse, despicable influence on society!!! I actually heard Taylor Swift once tell Oprah Winfrey that she knows she [Taylor] is a role model to young girls, and has a responsibility to them. Role model for what? ... a sleazy whore!!! I am not condemning Miss Swift, for I am a sinner just like anyone else.

Rich #fundie forum.myspace.com

(I have had two abortions. One almost two years ago, and one last September. The only side effects I ever had were mild, temporary, and physical.

Actually, when I went nuts was after my miscarriage, not after my abortions.)

That should worry you.... These side effects are due to conscious-God-given warnings. If you didn't have a problem with killing Your Baby-His Creation; You are in danger of loosing your eternal soul in Hell..... Think about it, I'm Not condemning you. Please ask God for forgiveness-Repent. Seek His will for your life and you'll find a new life that you can flourish in.

spongeeno1 #fundie godlikeproductions.com

Alien deception. Jesus Christ is coming back soon 2016 rapture,tribulation. Give your life to Jesus Christ whilst there is still time

The rapture of the church will occur very soon. It is important that us as followers of Christ prepare ourselves for this event and get right with God. It is also important for the people who haven't yet trusted and placed their faith in in Jesus Christ to do so immediately. God has given us a vast amount of signs to tell us that we are living in the end times, such as celestial signs,The increase in iniquity,earthquakes etc. God has given vast amounts of signs in the sky such as comets, lunar eclipses and solar eclipses that land on Jewish feast days and many more, so it is imperative that we are paying attention to those signs that God has given us.

When the rapture of the church occurs millions of true Christians and small children will vanish off the face of the earth. Because of this the whole world will be in a state of panic and rebellion and chaos and confusion. It could also be one of the causes of an economic collapse. This will be where the Antichrist but also alien like beings will appear on the scene.

when the rapture of the church happens the restraining power of the holy spirit will also be taken out of the world. This means the veil between the demonic/spirit realm and the 3rd dimension which is the physical realm that we live in which God has put there will be lifted.

Therefore fallen angels also known as demons will be able to reveal themselves. They will take the form of alien like beings and say they are alien beings from a different world and will use this deception to explain away the rapture.

They will deceive the world by telling the world that being left behind is a good thing. They will probably tell the world that it was them who took all these people out of the world and make up some lie to go with it. This deception will cause people to be catapulted into the 7 year tribulation without even realizing it.

This will also make it very easy for the Antichrist to deceive the world. This man will appear on the scene and act as saviour to the world. He will have all the solutions to the worlds problems and the world will wonder after him and look upon him as a Saviour.


If you are reading this and want to escape these things which are coming upon the earth and you do not know Jesus as your Lord and Saviour, He is calling you to repentance in order that you can love Him and escape these terrible things that are reserved for those who have rejected His mercy. Here is a simple prayer of repentance for your salvation. All you have to do is ask the lord wholeheartedly to forgive you and save you from your sins, the gift of eternal life is free to all who will accept it. I recommend that you do it now while you still have the time. If you do not know how, just repeat the following prayer:

Dear Lord,

I admit that I am a sinner. I have done many things that don’t please you. I am sorry and I repent. I ask you to forgive me. I believe that your son Jesus Christ died on the cross for me, to save me. You did what I could not do for myself. I come to you now and ask you to take control of my life, I give it to you. Help me to live every day in a way that pleases you. I love you, Lord, and I thank you that I will spend all eternity with you in Jesus’ name amen.

If you have prayed this prayer from your heart and meant it, the Bible says that you have been forgiven of your sins and now you are saved.

TL;DR Award

But I think everyone needs to read this homocidal lunatic's manifesto in order to truly understand and argue against this kind of murderous ideology and its adherents

Anders Behring Breivik #conspiracy info.publicintelligence.net

(These quotes are all taken from Anders Behring Breivik's manifesto, 2083: A Declaration Of European Independence)

As we all know, the root of Europe's problems is the lack of cultural self-confidence (nationalism). Most people are still terrified of nationalistic political doctrines thinking that if we ever embrace these principles again, new “Hitler’s” will suddenly pop up and initiate global Armageddon... Needless to say; the growing numbers of nationalists in W. Europe are systematically being ridiculed, silenced and persecuted by the current cultural Marxist/multiculturalist political establishments. This has been a continuous ongoing process which started in 1945. This irrational fear of nationalistic doctrines is preventing us from stopping our own national/cultural suicide as the Islamic colonization is increasing annually. This book presents the only solutions to our current problems.

You cannot defeat Islamisation or halt/reverse the Islamic colonization of Western Europe without first removing the political doctrines manifested through multiculturalism/cultural Marxism…

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Political/Democratic/Apologistic Jihad (Rhetorical/psychological warfare)

Thousands of active Islamic apologetics on all arenas (ranging from internet forums to the public debate elsewhere). Their primary goal is to discredit, pacify and silence all whom criticise Islam and Demographic Jihad.

Objectives:
1. Terminate European freedom of speech by replacing it with hate-crime bills.
2. Wage a war of words using charismatic individuals who directly or indirectly promote
and defend Islam.
3. Engage the European public in dialogues, discussions, and debates in colleges, universities, public libraries, radio, TV, churches and mosques on the virtues of Islam. Proclaim how it is historically another peaceful religion like Judaism and Christianity with the same monotheistic faith.
4. Nominate Muslim sympathisers to political office to bring about favourable legislation toward Islam and support potential sympathisers by block voting.
5. Take control of as much of the press, TV, radio and the Internet as possible by buying the related corporations or a controlling stock.

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Christianity has increasingly become perceived as being linked by some, to a bygone culture, having already lost its political direction, cohesion, and influence. The wall that both Martin Luther and Thomas Jefferson spoke of has switched, in modern times it is no longer a means by which the Church defends its rights and position over the state, as in pre-modern times, but rather how the state increases its power over the Church.

Historically there have always been tensions between the powers secular and the powers religious, which in times gone by through the prides of men resulted in out right conflict between the two; however, with the emergence of the modern secular state and its incumbent ‘ideology of reason’. This ‘wall’, has become the means via which the state has secured power away from the church and is challenging the identity of Christians as well. Attacking our beliefs and values and presenting modern liberal alternatives in short all that makes us who we are as Christians by presenting alternatives with the assumption that these alternatives are better and the polemical engagement of the ‘enlightenment’ elite. The Liberal Moderns command the heights of the wall. This process is called differentiation: where the state, driven by the ‘ideology of reason’, ‘the religion of humanity’, or more simply - Liberal Modernity, seized what were once church roles. This forced conversion of society has pushed the Christian faith back into a metaphysical box, where some argued it would die an irrelevant death. Such as speculated by Marx and others, and assumed by Nietzche!

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Mapping the enemy (definitions):
Traditional Marxists, cultural Marxists, suicidal humanists, career cynicists and capitalist globalists – all support and propagate multiculturalism Proving each individuals real intention is a complicated process as most of today’s cultural Marxists disguise their true agenda by using humanistic principles and rhetoric (at least publicly) as a basis for justifying their actions. However, we know that a good portion of them (more than 30% of our opposition) use this smoke screen of humanist deception to hide their hatred for everything European.

What complicates this process further is the fact that the ongoing European civil war is not a class war but a cultural war. Motives are overlapping and old definitions are outdated. The old fundamental definitions were nationalists vs. communists, or socialists vs. capitalists. Many of today’s multiculturalists are capitalists and some of today’s cultural conservatives support a very solidaric economical system. More or less every humanist/social democrat etc. is a multiculturalist as they support liberal political mechanics such as family reunification and asylum arrangements which again facilitates Islamic demographical warfare. Some of these individuals are true humanists and just extremely naive, yet others are just hiding behind humanist rhetoric and really want to destroy European culture, traditions, identity, Christendom and national sovereignty.

An estimate showing the opponents of cultural conservative doctrines (antinationalists):

- Hardcore Marxists: 10% (hateful intentions)
- Cultural Marxists: 20% (semi hateful intentions)
- Suicidal Humanists/career cynicists: 65% (suicidally naive/egotistical)
- Capitalist globalists: 5% (greed) 100% of the above support and propagate multiculturalism

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To qualify to act as a ”Justiciar Knight” the individual has to pledge the Knights Templar oath by completing the “Initiation Rite” (see: The PCCTS, Knights Templar Oath – Initiation Rite) and swear to follow the principles of the PCCTS, to protect the interests of all free, indigenous Europeans, European cultures and Christendom in general through armed struggle. Choosing the path of the Justiciar Knight is to walk the path in pursuit of becoming “The Perfect Knight”. Any candidate prepared to walk this road must be willing to forfeit his materialistic ambitions and embrace voluntary poverty and martyrdom. The Order and Tribunal has concluded that any and all Europeans have not just a right, but a duty to resist through political and military means; cultural Marxist/multiculturalist atrocities and crimes committed against the indigenous peoples of Europe. As such, any European Christian conservative can act as a Justiciar Knight. This includes Christian agnostics and Christian atheists. Although the PCCTS, Knights Templar is a pan European indigenous rights movement we give all Europeans, regardless of skin colour, the opportunity to become a Justiciar Knight as long as the individual is either a Christian, Christian agnostic or a Christian atheist. The European Military & Criminal Tribunal, PCCTS, request that any and all Justiciar Knights of Europe; identify and effectuate punishment for category A and B traitors - cultural Marxist/multiculturalist individuals for the violations specified and included in this document; charges 1 – 8.

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In order to wake up the masses, the only rational approach will be to make sure the current system implodes. This will cause a lot of short term pain; cut in welfare payouts, increased unemployment even starvation in extreme cases. The bulk of our people will refuse to join resistance movements because they feel they have too much to lose. They have invested several years and a lot of resources in long educations and most people have mortgages/loans which they have no choice but to attend to. Many receive exceptional government incentives to stay “loyal” to the system. All of these responsibilities and incentives cause a symbiosis between the victims (people) and the exterminator (regime) to a degree where we have a collective mass-scale “Stockholm syndrome” (sympathies and loyalty to captor). Our objective is to break these bonds and this can only be achieved through contributing to creating a scenario where the antiEuropean hate ideology we wish to destroy perishes/implodes or dies from a thousand cuts. For every successful operation a new cut is applied and will contribute to this ideology’s demise. Wiping out Marxism in Europe will take us 30-70 years but we will succeed eventually. Every effort counts, have no doubt about that.

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Once you decide to strike, it is better to kill too many than not enough, or you risk reducing the desired ideological impact of the strike. Explain what you have done (in an announcement distributed prior to operation) and make certain that everyone understands that we, the free peoples of Europe, are going to strike again and again. Do not apologise, make excuses or express regret for you are acting in self-defence or in a preemptive manner. In many ways, morality has lost its meaning in our struggle. The question of good and evil is reduced to one simple choice. For every free patriotic European, only one choice remains: Survive or perish. Some innocent will die in our operations as they are simply at the wrong place at the wrong time. Get used to the idea. The needs of the many will always surpass the needs of the few.

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The PCCTS, Knights Templar Oath – Initiation Rite [The candidate kneels in front of the altar, while reading the oath out loudly] I, ________, of my own free will and accord, in the presence of Almighty God, the spirits of my ancestors and past martyrs, do hereby and hereon most solemnly and sincerely promise and swear, from now and forever, that I will hail, respect and obey the principles of the PCCTS, Knights Templar. I furthermore promise and swear that I will stand to and abide by all laws, rules and regulations of the Military Order and Criminal Tribunal - PCCTS, Knights Templar. Further, that I will always aid and assist fellow Justiciar Knights, their widows and orphans, knowing them to be such, as far as their necessities may require, and my ability permit, without material injury to myself and family. Further, that I will keep a brother Justiciar Knight secrets inviolable, when communicated to and received by me as such. I declare to take freely and solemnly this oath of obedience, this pledge of voluntary poverty and commitment. With this oath I state my strong and irrevocable intent: To pledge my sword, my forces, my life and everything that I own to the cause, defence, honour of my country and of Europe, my people, the Christian religion, of the PCCTS, Knights Templar and of my companions in arms; to the rescue of my country and of Europe as a whole from the tyranny of Marxist and Islamic oppression. To love my brothers the Knights and my Sisters the Ladies and help them, their children and their widows with my sword, my advice, means and wealth, my credit and everything in my power, and will favour them, with no exception, over those who are not members of the order. To fight the infidels and the non-believers with my example, virtue, charity and convincing arguments; and to fight with the sword the infidels and non-believers who attack the Cross with their own sword.

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Creating patriotic youth movements in phase 1 How can we expect to safeguard our societies against cultural Marxism and Islam in the future (say in 2,3,4,5 decades from now) when Western Europe does not even have any well organised patriotic youth groups? Patriotic youth groups (also referred to as street activists) are the back bone of the resistance and the creation of such political entities should be a primary goal. An intellectual club (consisting of older professionals) who rejects the notion of offering political and intellectual guidance to the youths of the society will have limited impact. A large majority of the current European conservative intellectuals are cowards and unwilling to take responsibility. If they had taken responsibility they would have started to develop a Conservative Revolutionary Movement and/or several patriotic youth movements. If the “anti-Islamisation/anti-totalitarian organisations” refuse to start their own youth groups and start recruitment of patriotic youth then the so called totalitarian-minded, racist or criminal organisations such as Hells Angels will (as we are witnessing today). And when the time comes there will be one impotent “politically correct” intellectual club “without anyone who can physically protect it and its doctrines from “Marxist/Muslim lynch mobs” as most of the youths have been recruited by the other “competing” patriotic alternatives.

Max Roscoe #fundie returnofkings.com

10 Things My Dog Taught Me About Women

I discovered ROK around the same time I became the owner of a puppy, and there are many parallels I have noticed while I am out with my dog about women and relationships. Here are a few observations:

1. Always be the master, not the slave

While I allow my dog the occasional freedom of running off-leash, at all times it is clear that I am his master, and he has certain boundaries. He knows he must stay within eyesight of me at all times. No barking or aggressive behavior towards others will be allowed.

He is constantly looking back to me for approval that what he is doing is allowed. With women, it is important to maintain frame at all times. If you are successful with establishing yourself as the dominant partner in the relationship (you make the calls, you decide the dates), then your woman will be far less likely to attempt reversing the roles and become dominating and vindictive.

2. A well trained partner will cause fewer problems

I enrolled my dog in a six-week training course, where we learned basic commands. More than the simple act of learning that the English pronunciation of “sit” means to place the rear end on the ground, however, is the importance that the dog learns that you are the master and you have certain expectations.

A well trained dog will know when it misbehaves, and will sense the disappointment or anger of its owner when it breaks the rules. Likewise, a woman should be trained to behave properly. Since Western civilization has abdicated its role in training members of both sexes how to behave politely and what proper roles are, men must take up this duty on our own.

If you firmly but politely lay out your expectations for your partner (no flaky behavior, I appreciate you cooking meals for me that we can enjoy together, you are to dress feminine but not slutty when we are in public, etc.), in my experience, the woman enjoys doing her part, the same way we enjoy our masculine role.

3. Slight corrections are needed from time to time

My dog knows how to walk on a leash, next to me, without dragging me all over the place. However, smells, sights of other dogs, and outside stimulus often get the better of him and he will wander too far away. A gentle tug on his leash and a verbal correction will quickly bring him back in line. Paying attention to the small details and “nipping it in the bud” before he’s off the sidewalk will bring him back to my side.

Likewise, it is far easier to maintain a happy relationship by addressing small missteps as they occur, before letting them blossom into major problems. Tell her to hit the gym when she’s gotten a bit out of shape, but don’t wait until she’s gained 20 pounds. Give her a limit on how much alcohol she can drink. Tell her she must inform you who she is going out with and where.

As we know, women are essentially large children, and like a teen who will gradually test the limits of his boundaries, a woman will push the rules to see how much she can get away with. Treat her like a father would his child, and let her know she is not to behave this way in the future. She will not only stop the harmful actions, but come to respect you even more.

4. Positive reinforcement works

The best way to train a dog is by offering treats, and giving strong, enthusiastic, loving verbal reinforcement when it does what is expected. The dog is happy that it is making its owner happy, and any owner can see this. Likewise, a woman’s instinctual nurturing side will blossom and she will be happy when she is pleasing her man. Kind of the inverse of happy wife, happy life.

The wife is happy because she is pleasing her husband, and she enjoys fulfilling her role in the relationship, the same way we naturally enjoy the rewards of hard work, the satisfaction of fixing things, and kind actions which bring a smile to the face of a woman who earns and has our affections.

5. Pay attention to details

The next time you see a dog, look closely. Does it have well groomed hair, or a matted, dirty, coat full of debris? Does it have a face of enthusiasm and happiness, or is it aggressive and violent? Does it playfully engage its owner and strangers, or is it skittish and anti-social? Does it respond well to its owner?

Likewise, there are visual clues that let us know the quality of women we are approaching. Does she groom herself well, with long, feminine hair, trimmed and painted nails, and conservative clothing? Does she smile? Does she interact socially with others, or is she glued to her smart phone screen and unable to hold a real conversation?

Does she have clear, radiant skin, or is her body mutilated with shrapnel and graffiti? Some women, and some dogs, simply are too far gone, and should be avoided, due to their unpleasant past.

6. The laws of Nature are supreme

Even a bad dog owner who has taught his dog no discipline, and has no control over his pet, cannot get around the fact that the dog relies on the owner for food, shelter, and water. The dog is subservient to its owner, and even in the worst of owners, this fact of nature cannot be reversed.

Likewise, a woman is naturally and normally the submissive partner to the man. No amount of short haircuts, business suits, you-go-girling or education can reverse the natural role than women play in the world. Women are different from men, and men are the more physically powerful, mentally strong, and emotionally caring of the two sexes. The unhappiness feminism has wrought on society is due to its attempt to subvert the natural order of things.

7. Dogs will test boundaries

My dog greets me every day when I come home by enthusiastically running to greet me in the yard, smiling, and begging to play, much the way a traditional father from the 1950s would be greeted by his family when he returned home from work. His time is a rare commodity, and the family was excited to talk to him, and to be in his presence.

Occasionally when I arrive, my dog will fail to rush out to meet me, and will just sit in the porch, wagging his tail, waiting for me to approach. When this happens, I will stop, and wait until he runs out to greet me, as I am accustomed, before walking any further. Likewise, with a woman, when she slowly stops the nice little extra things you appreciated, cleaning your bed after sex, making you a snack, whatever it is, you must immediately address and reinstate before things slip further.

8. Dogs don’t understand you

You can talk in a kind voice to a dog, and he will understand your loving happiness, and reciprocate, but beyond that, dogs are incapable of understanding you, interpreting your thoughts, empathizing, or using logic.

Likewise, it is a waste of time to get into deep discussions with women, expect them to rationalize or understand things, or even to truly empathize or love a man. This may upset you, but it is true. While a dog or woman can respect and honor you, and make you feel good, they cannot truly understand you, or love you the way you love them.

9. They appreciate small treats

A tiny reward can go a long way. The item itself is of less importance than the meaning behind it. Dogs respond well to a new toy or special treat like a bone for learning a new trick, or behaving especially well.

Likewise, when your woman deserves it, or just because you are happy with how she is treating you, feel free to give her a small token of appreciation. Cook a special meal she likes. Take her out to a movie. Have a picnic with her. Make her feel special. When you are rewarding good behavior, you are encouraging it to continue.

10. Dogs are accessories meant to bring happiness

A dog is an optional thing a guy can bring into his life if he wants something to occupy his time, and reward him emotionally. The same should be true with women. Never enter into a relationship simply because “you’re single” or due to outside pressure from family. Never stay in a relationship that is not productive or meeting your needs.

Having a dog is a hobby, one that requires a little work every day to maintain, but should always be pleasurable to the owner. Having a significant other is the same. If the woman is not doing things for you that make you happy, move on. If she is unresponsive to the basic training that a dog would adopt, then she is failing at a very fundamental level, and you would like be much happier with a pet than a nagging girlfriend.

Conclusion

Finally, remember that while having an obedient one by your side is rewarding and comforting, there are thousands and thousands of them available, so never become too attached to one.

However, when speaking of dogs, they are incredibly loyal, protective, and offer unconditional love, and will in some ways be more consistent, reliable, and rewarding than a woman. It’s often said that sexbots will be the end of the modern feminist. Dogs provide most of the positive benefits of women except sex, and owning one can benefit a man greatly.

They are also a great yardstick of comparison. If your woman is not making you happier than your dog, it’s time to next her.

Chet #fundie christiannews.net

You and I will one day snap-out into eternity, as will all other human flesh. I will do so with the copy of God's preserved Word, my Holy Bible, written in my own English language, as my guide and judge. Because of my faith in the Word, I have God Almighty as my Father in Heaven based entirely on the good news gospel of His only begotten Son, the Lord Jesus Christ and His finished work on Calvary in concert with His bodily resurrection and living eternally. I richly deserve Hell for the life I once lived, the things I once did and the onetime disregard I maintained for the gospel presentation.

Then, one glad and glorious day, after many years of hearing the gospel via divers means and not responding, at just the right time and the right circumstances, someone presented me with a gospel tract. This tract showed me who I was and what I could expect at the end of my days (Hell) and I knew it to be true. Then, the blessed Holy Spirit convicted me of my myriad Sins and presented me with my sole opportunity for forgiveness and mercy. Such was presented in the person of Christ and His mission in coming to this sin cursed Earth to willingly suffer and die at the hands of my fellow sinners for my own eternal soul, personally. God gave me faith to believe Him and I repented of my Sin and received the Lord Jesus Christ as my own Lord and Saviour, personally. I have not become perfect and never will but I'm sure thankful that the life I once lived with all its favored allurements have no sway over me anymore. My innumerable Sins are all washed away in the precious shed blood of Christ, and I bear them no more. And get this, Alan, when God forgives He even then forgets, something we humans can never do. All thanks, honor and praise goes to the Lord Jesus Christ of Calvary and I am now a sinner saved by grace, alone...

What say you?

Morpheus2009 #fundie freerepublic.com

I think homosexuality is the main issue that they ["secular humanist libtards"] will hammer on. Bestiality, possibly decriminalize it, but not much more than that. The reason for choosing homosexuality is because you can pretty much imitate divorce by sticking fairly “intelligent” or “consenting” individuals together, and have a decent shot at improving the image. Plus the specific homosexual behaviors do the best job at offending whatever traditional religions are out there. Polygamy is likely to be a far more immediate issue. The main step there is getting measures to not force divorces of polygamous immigrants.

Wally #fundie rr-bb.com

And this is the part that the world hates:


The gunman can repent, beg forgiveness, ask Christ to be his Savior, believe and be forgiven,
Then should his flesh be convicted and executed, he will walk into the presence of the Lord;


Whereas if the other three were trusting in allah, and have rejected the message of the Cross, the Gospel of Jesus,
they already face an eternity of condemnation without God.


Anger, fueled by pride, hiding behind unbelief. That is our world now more than ever.

The Message has never been about some hateful capricious god like allah,

No, the Message is about God Who spared no expense to save you from yourself.

Don Boys #racist cstnews.com

They (Native Americans) had access to all the gold, silver, iron, water, trees, etc., that the white man had, yet it was the white man who built the greatest, most advanced society in the world. If that sounds like racism, so be it. It is also factual. Most Liberals don’t like facts; they like fantasy or faith in old, discredited theories that informed people discarded years ago.

If the white man had not beached his boats on the sands of Jamestown, Plymouth Rock, and Cape Cod, the Indians would still be huddled around their soot-lined tepees warming themselves over a fire made by rubbing dry sticks together. They would still be burying their dead children because of childhood diseases, and maybe the air would be cleaner if the white man had never come, but who would be alive to care?

Darrell Trigg #fundie darrelltriggforpresident.com

Campaign Platform

1. Separation of Church and State will be changed to the Union of Church and State. God will be asked to be an integral part of the government of the U.S.
•The national religion of The United States of America will be the Christian religion . Those belonging to other religions, such as Islam, will be free to live and worship here as now, with their own religion; however, the Christian religion will be the one chosen to form the basic moral principles of our nation, to give it a strong moral foundation, and a right relationship with God.

2. Public Schools – all schools supported by the U.S. Federal and State tax systems:
•The Bible will be a standard required subject in all public schools and universities, for all grades , the same as English and Math.
•Each day of school will begin with prayer and the Pledge of Allegiance.
•The salary and total compensation package of school teachers will be increased.
•The total budget for our school system will be increased.
•The school day will include one period of physical education that includes 30 minutes of exercise four days per week.

3. Homosexuality will not be recognized legally, or in any other manner, by the United States government or any state, city, or county government.

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6. The legal drinking age will be increased to 25 for any alcoholic beverage.
•Alcohol will not be allowed on university campuses.

7. Marriage and the family will be protected by the following :
•Marriage will be defined as the union of one woman with one man.
•The legal age for marriage will be 22.
•A couple wishing to get married must first attend Christian marriage counseling classes.
•Divorce will only be allowed in cases of abuse, infidelity, or incarceration.
•The penalties for abuse and infidelity will include large fines and jail time.
•Married couples who become pregnant must attend Christian parenting classes.

EinNYC #fundie freerepublic.com

Haaretz is a lefty newspaper. Anyone observing Torah law would be viewed by them as "ultra Orthodox". And Haaretz would not miss out on any opportunity to stick it to religious Jews.

Last time I checked, the Torah has not been changed. And last time I checked, homosexuality was still an abomination according to Torah law, in any form. That includes the disgusting parody of permanent union between a man and a woman referred to as "gay marriage". The former member of the Knesset who forced his family to attend one of these disgusting parodies was putting the sensibilities of his individual family members above Torah law. WRONG! By attending that celebration of violating Torah law, he was sanctioning the violation, when he should have shunned it.

We just went through Rosh Hashana. Right there in the Rosh Hashana liturgy, it speaks of G-d, saying that He does not "wish the death one one deserving death; He awaits him; if he repents, He will accept him immediately..."

So as far as gays being put to death, that's a smear by leftist media. Both G-d Himself and His sincere followers, religious Jews, fervently hope for the return of violators---whatever the particular violation is---to the observance of Torah law, not that they be put to death.

Whathastobedone #fundie theologyonline.com

"Just to set things straight:

Banning sex is NOT sinful, banning reproduction however IS. God wants us to reproduce and raise families, it's our lot in life. If anything, the removal of taboos placed on sexuality will cause a downward slide in reproduction. As sex is progressively viewed as a recreational activity, pressure to make anti-conceptive methods more effective builds up, sex becomes more common but reproduction becomes scarce. The solution would be to ban sex entirely whilst making methods of artificial insemination mandatory.

It's not a question of HOW we reproduce but IF. I don't think God would shed many tears if we replaced a primitive and sensual method of reproduction with something more civilized and modest. It's the same concept behind why we rarely create fire by rubbing two sticks together anymore, just with more moral reasoning."

Zuzanna Mroz #fundie blogs.spectator.co.uk

I am a conservative. I believe everyone in society does best when government takes a light touch. I believe in low taxes, less regulation, the rule of law, national sovereignty, strong borders, individual liberty, personal responsibility, meritocracy, tolerance to people’s differences, and traditional family values.
I am also a transsexual woman. But those on the left regard me as a Judas. And they do so because I don’t fit conveniently into their insatiable and pathological need to stereotype everyone. To them, the very notion that a trans woman – because we are “different” and a “minority group” – could be anything other than a Mao-quoting, Che-Guevara-T-shirt-wearing, red-flag-waving socialist is sacrilegious. They call me a traitor. A house tranny. Or, more crudely, a fascist.

And so, coming out as a conservative was an entirely more tumultuous affair for me than coming out as trans. If only there were a chapter in Dale Carnegie’s seminal “How to Win Friends and Influence People” that offered helpful advice on such matters. Two factors, more than any others, that chiseled and honed my conservative worldview were growing up in a post-communist country and taking personal responsibility for making the best of being born in the wrong body.

My childhood was awash with my family’s forlorn recollections about the hardships they endured under communism in Poland: the chronic scarcity of food, medicine and other basic necessities; outright hostility to basic liberties. And if we didn’t like it, too bad: they killed anyone who tried to leave. But throughout Poland’s 44-year communist ordeal, my family stood firm: my great-grandfather was imprisoned twice for distributing pro-capitalism pamphlets and for listening to Radio Free Europe. This instilled in me a powerful respect for the twin virtues of free people and free enterprise.

Even in the earliest years of my childhood, I knew that I was different. Unlike the boys in the neighbourhood who enjoyed roughhousing and kicking around footballs, I spent my time dreaming of one day having a child of my own to nurture and rear. My family thought it was a phase. But it wasn’t. I had what we now know as gender dysphoria: I was a girl born in the wrong body. And I could no more choose to not be a boy than a gay person could choose to be straight. I desperately wished to be normal. But to me, becoming “normal” meant becoming physically female.

My mum and I moved to Denmark when I was nine. By the time I was an adult, the Danish healthcare system provided gender reassignment surgery funded by the taxpayer. But as with all socialised healthcare systems, they rationed access to treatment with interminably long waiting times. I would have had no choice over the surgeon eventually assigned to me or the surgical techniques they would use. Because of my sense of personal responsibility and non-reliance on the state that my family had instilled in me, I felt uncomfortable with the idea that strangers should be forced to pay for my surgery.

So I took matters into my own hands. I found a part-time job while in high school and worked at weekends to earn as much as I could to pay for private surgery. I set myself a savings goal. It required financial sacrifices on my and my mum’s part. But by the time I was 18, I had scrimped and saved enough; after exhaustive research, I chose the surgeon I wanted.

And, then, the day of my surgery arrived. I went into hospital a girl trapped in a male body. I emerged a woman, liberated. I felt resounding joy at finally being made whole. But I also felt immense pride that I had accomplished it by myself. Not just a woman. A self-made woman.

So, whenever I hear self-entitled, Labour-voting millennials shouting “we deserve this”, “you owe us”, “tax the rich”, I can’t help but raise an eyebrow. Because no one deserves anything simply by virtue of being alive. If I could accomplish what I did without reliance on the state, then everybody else is perfectly capable of funding and achieving their life goals too.

One thing that particularly whips up the frothy and indignant ire of some of those on the left is my view that members of the LGBT community are not well-served by any form of special treatment or protection, such as quotas or anti-discrimination and hate-speech legislation. Frankly, such measures are patronising and insulting. No thanks. None of that for me.

I want to succeed – and take pride in my success – because I work hard and exercise good judgment. Not because of a law that requires organisations to hire and promote a certain number of LGBT people, irrespective of merit. If an organisation doesn’t want to associate with me because I’m a transgender woman, well that’s their loss and not mine. I’d much rather focus my energy on working with companies and groups who value me for what I can do and not for who I am. But forcing them by law to associate with me is only going to make them resent trans people, not embrace us. Government can lead by example. But it can’t legislate intolerance away.

Similarly, hate speech laws have the pernicious effect of making others constantly walk on eggshells around trans people, lest they inadvertently say something that could be construed as “offensive”. This makes me – and other trans people in the workplace – a potentially hazardous lawsuit waiting to happen. And that discourages the employment of trans people even further. If someone wants to say ugly things to me because of who I am, then I have every opportunity to try to disabuse them of their narrow-minded views or simply walk away. No harm, no foul. A law that criminalises what they say because of who I am just makes me out to be a helpless victim. And I am nobody’s helpless victim. All I ask for is the same treatment under the law as everyone else. Nothing more. Nothing less.

The irony, of course, is that whereas the Labour party – and its groovy, self-righteous, champagne socialist acolytes – like to tout themselves as tolerant, inclusive and champions of minority rights, it is actually the Conservative party that has pioneered time and time again in terms of providing equality of opportunity and rewarding merit for all. Universal suffrage, full decriminalisation of homosexual acts over the age of consent, and same-sex marriage were all ushered into law under Conservative governments. The Conservative party has had two female prime ministers, one Jewish-born prime minister, two ethnic minority holders of a great office of state, and two female leaders of the Scottish Conservatives. The Labour party has had none. Ever.

Meanwhile, Jeremy Corbyn’s Labour party seems intent on reminding us again and again through its appalling record on anti-Semitism that it is “For the Many, Not the Jew”. Labour MPs even attend gender-segregated party rallies and meetings. And while the number of black and ethnic minority members of the government and shadow cabinet should be more proportionate to society at large, one cannot help but wonder – given her litany of car crash interviews and her apparent struggle with basic arithmetic – whether the shadow home secretary is in her role because she is fit for purpose or because of her appearance.

Very clearly, when it comes to matters of equality and inclusion, the Conservative party walks the walk, while the Labour party just talks and talks and talks. And so, if I were a betting woman, my money would be firmly on the Conservative party to have the first ever transsexual MP. Or – who knows – perhaps, one day, the UK’s first ever transsexual prime minister.

Jennifleur #fundie rr-bb.com

(Mountain Girl:
If global warming is going on, I lean toward the belief that it's happening because the sun is getting hotter. What do people here think about these verses?

Revelation 16:8-9.....The fourth angel poured out his bowl on the sun, and the sun was given power to scorch people with fire. They were seared by the intense heat and they cursed the name of God, who had control over these plagues, but they refused to repent and glorify him.

It sounds like a prediction that the sun gets hotter.)


I have thought this for a long time. But that wouldn't aid the cause of the environmentalists. Now they're trying to say our carbon emissions are affecting Mars...

Navaros #fundie imdb.com

[A christian about YEC's: "but in my experience the YEC care more about defending their postion on the age of the earth than they do about core Christianity."]

You are an evil apostate, so it would be very unwise to take your experience as a good example of anything.

The core of Christianity is obediance to God. Instead of obeying God, you geode spend your life working iniquity against Him by calling Him a liar and His Word a lie, attacking His people, replacing His Word with the ungodly evolution fairytale, fraternizing with other evil men who agree with you (trying to delude yourself for psychological comfort that evil others telling you your apostasy is fine and dandy will make it ok with God) and promoting that satanic viewpoint to naive people so that they may be led astray and join you in Hell.

If you knew the slightest thing about core Christianity, geode, then you would be terrified of what God will do to such a worker of iniquity as yourself at the Judgement Seat of Christ. "The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge, but fools despite wisdom and instruction". That could have been written for you specifically, geode. That you revel in your debauchery instead of falling on your knees, begging for forgiveness, and repenting, is empirical proof that you are not of God.

Croc #fundie christianforums.com

WHen Jesus saw someone sinning he told them that they were wrong to do that. Liberals love to throw that in our faces about how Jesus was so tolerant but thats a lie. Jesus forgave people who asked to be forgiven but he never said anything other than pure obeisance to Gods will was OK. What would Jesus do if he saw some homosexuals? he would tell them straight up they were damning themselves to Hell. Then if they repented hed forgive them and if they didnt hed be sad that they were going to Hell but hed still send them there. Read through the Gospels and youll see dozens of examples that every time Jesus saw people doing wrong he didn't keep his mouth shut and tolerate it but spoke right out against it.

Kristian #fundie eaec.org

Before Laura and I came in contact with John Torell, we were living what I consider to be a typical lifestyle of idolatry, listening to rock music and watching ungodly television and movies. If we happened to have an extra glass of wine and got buzzed, it was all in good fun. We had no idea how these practices impacted us spiritually because we were spiritually empty. We watched the scariest movies we could find to try and get a spiritual “fix,” and when the movies no longer filled the gap, we ended up searching for an alternative. We took a wrong turn on Netflix and viewed a documentary called Zeitgeist. While this movie raised some interesting questions, it did so with incomplete mainstream propaganda. This nudged us into the realm of the New Age and we started questioning the existence of Jesus.

Then we came upon David Icke and his reptilian theories but red flags started popping up in our minds. These New Age ideas were on the fringes of religion, insinuating an alien savior and how the Paladians were coming to evangelize us. I was intrigued but there was a subtle aftertaste of deceit because they avoided the Bible and the truth it offers. We had almost gotten to the point of throwing away our Bibles when the Holy Spirit gave us our final warning! My wife and I started hearing thoughts in our heads that were not ours. These thoughts were murderous, violent and pure evil. We ran as fast as we could back to the Bible and asked Jesus for forgiveness and repented for having ever doubted.

I turned off David Icke and found myself listening to a radio show on Blog Talk Radio called The Hagmann and Hagmann Report. One of the guests made mention of Shannon Davis on Omega Man Radio. We started poking around the chat room and listening to the archives and found that his show focused on deliverance through Jesus. We were fascinated and listened to a couple of the mass deliverances offered by some of the guest Pastors. We started off with Ivory Hopkins, John Kyle, and Jim Croft among others. When we heard Pastor John give a teaching on the curses of the Bible and the relevance of the Old Testament, we knew that this was something that we had not heard before. Laura had a reflexology and acupressure business and she emailed multiple pastors seeking advice. John Torell was the only one that responded and told us that these practices are based in the occult. We shut down the business he next day and never looked back.

We had ordered a few different books on deliverance and for the most part they were all the same. Pastor John’s book, Christian Dynamics Course 1, was completely different. It offered a more thorough introduction to the Christian faith and the dynamics of curses and bondage. As we studied and read through the book, we learned how to break the curses and remove the demonic legal grounds for us to be oppressed. We completed a fairly in-depth study of the book with Pastor John answering questions along the way. During this process we also cleansed our house of any occult items. The learning curve was pretty steep because everyday objects that we accept as simple decorations are actually doorways to demon oppression. We were financially strapped but decided nevertheless that we should see Pastor John in person. We had enough air miles to cover the flights and were able to get a discount on a room at a local B&B. It seemed that God wanted us to go!

Andy Schlafly #fundie conservapedia.com

[Replying to an article which claims the story where Jesus says, "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone" is a forgery and shouldn't be in the Bible]

Thanks for your superb analysis, Michael, from which I learned immensely.

For the record, the ideological objection is not to how liberals "twist" this passage, but how the passage itself is written in such a liberal way that it renders its authenticity doubtful. It would be akin to discovering a passage that said something like this: "Jesus then said that government should take from the rich and give to the poor." Historical analysis can prove that to be non-authentic; political analysis can reach the same conclusion more efficiently and with a high degree of certitude.

Jesus did not forgive without repentance, yet the Adulteress Story claims He did. Jesus did not comment on capital punishment, yet the Adulteress Story claims He did. Jesus was not permissive about adultery, yet the Adulteress Story He was. Older people are not always wiser than younger ones, yet the Adulteress Story claims they are. And so on

Dreams of Dunamis #fundie dreamsofdunamis.wordpress.com

It has surprised me, to discover just how many demons there are out in our dimension. Far more than what most people realize! Especially when going out into public places, where others meet and go.

We have found though, that for the most part, it is possible to have a home that is relatively demon-free. Getting rid of idols, (that list of what was an idol was quite long and surprised me greatly!,) asking for forgiveness and repenting when we sin, watching what is brought into the home, (this includes what is viewed through TV and computer screens,) keeping our thoughts captive to Christ, and blessing the house and land with blessed olive oil, has mostly cleaned out our home from such demonic spirits.

Sadly for us, blessing the computer or TV screen was not enough to stop the attacks. (That was the first thing I did to try and prevent such attacks from happening.) We have not tried blessing the electrical outlets yet though, so this is something we will try. Thanks for the idea!

Atheism Is Fake #fundie facebook.com

The weather is out of control because we have turn our backs on God. God controls the weather but when troubles come who do you cry out to. You call when were in bad times. God is always waiting for your call. He will never let us down. But you of this world have let God down. You think the weather is bad now? Will brother you have not sciene the real bad things that are coming upon this world. God is in control of everything. God holds your life in his hands. God is very disappointed in this world he created. God is coming back to this world and clean up all our dirty mess that we have done on this world. Do not forget about Noah and the ark. God has told you for years. To listen to his message but you will not listen. So now look to the sky it is coming fast now. There will be no stopping it. It’s name is judgment. The doors are closing will you cry out to God for his forgiveness and repent of your sin’s? Or will you just go back to your games and just fall asleep and let the enemly take over this world and rule????????????????????????????????????????
Nicole

Ned Lee #fundie livescience.com

It is NO coincidence that "gay" insist on adopting SAME SEX children. Within the SMALL percentage of being "gay" the adopted kids by PERCENTAGE are molested MORE in the "gay"community than in the heterosexual community. THESE are FACTS. It is the exact OPPOSITE. "Gays" are driven to MOLEST same sex regardless of age. It is also true that "gays" prize YOUTH and that INCLUDES INFANTS! Yes, INFANTS - helpless human beings are routinely MOLESTED by "gay parents". Need I mention how being raised by "gay.
parents is emotionally confusing as well as ABUSIVE physically.

Yes, Mark Adams Brown, I glanced at your writing and YOU are telling the TRUTH.

In the military, "gays' - the "butch" type are threatening and molesting the more feminine of the "gay" people. For example with two "gay"males one ALWAYS pretends to be the "feminine half" and the other plays the extreme MACHO half. It is the MACHO one that is intimidating the other males that are more feminine into submission by FORCE. The same is true of the MACHO female lesbian. The "butch" female is intimidating the molesting the more feminine lesbian into submission. There is NOTHING normal about "gay" people!

VenomFangX #fundie youtube.com

["Why won't God heal amputees?"]

People lose their arms because God is allowing us to feel the full consequences of sin (pain, death, suffering) so we understand the seriousness of it, so we can repent from it and come to saving faith in Jesus Christ. That is why God is not healing everyone all the time; it would be supporting our sin, rather than judging it, and showing us the need to repent from it. We will all die one day because our bodies have sinned, and all that matters is this; have you repented and received forgiveness

Malott #fundie malottblog.blogspot.com

For years I have believed that Senator Kennedy is a very bad man. And while I would wish cancer on no one, for me to now collapse into a fit of concern and compassion would be disingenuous. We are all going to die... (I know I plan to...) and the Senator can afford to pass painlessly and peacefully.

Maybe we should pray that this illness would cause the Senator to publicly repent - and thus glorify G_d.

Maybe the Senator will publicly turn away from his support of abortion, the gay agenda, His efforts to separate G_d from our schools and our institutions... And maybe he will repent of his personal life style.

I believe G_d uses illness to bless people... By getting their attention off the world and onto Him.

Senator Kennedy has the opportunity to turn a lifetime of mistakes into a glorious witness. Maybe we should pray for that.

Christian Answers #fundie christiananswers.net

What should be the attitude of the church toward homosexuals and homosexuality?

For the Bible-believing Christian, there can be no doubt that homosexuality is a grievous sin in the sight of God. The awful catalogue in the first chapter of Romans of the sins practiced by the ancient pagan world began with this sin:

For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another: men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was meet.
—Romans 1:26,27 (KJV)

The term “sodomy,” named after the inhabitants of Sodom whose homosexual perversions caused God to rain fire and brimstone on their city in the days of Abraham (Genesis 19:4,5,12,24), has for thousands of years been synonymous with this unique form of ungodliness. That it is basically a sin of rebellion against God is evident from the above passage in Romans.

The “cause” for which God “gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonor their own bodies between themselves” was that they had decided to “worship and serve creation more than the Creator” (Romans 1:24-25 - KJV).

Because such behavior is essentially animalistic, rather than human, sodomites are actually called “dogs” in the Bible. Note the strong prohibition in the Old Testament theocracy established under Moses.

There shall be no whore of the daughters of Israel, nor a sodomite of the sons of Israel. Thou shalt not bring the hire of a whore, or the price of a dog, into the house of the Lord thy God for any vow: for even both these are an abomination unto the Lord thy God.
—Deuteronomy 23:17,18 (KJV)

We can be sure that, if these practices were abominations to God then, He has not changed His opinion about them today.

The same terminology appears in the description of the holy city in the last chapter of the Bible.

Blessed are they that do His commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.
—Revelation 22:14-15 (KJV)

Thus, sodomites—like sorcerers, whoremongers (same word as “fornicators”), murderers, idolaters and lovers of lies—should undoubtedly also be excluded from church fellowship. If such a person, professing to be a Christian, persists in his sin, he should be put out of the church, like the one who had committed fornication with his stepmother (I Corinthians 5:1).

Now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner, with such an one no not to eat… Therefore, put away from yourselves that wicked person.
—I Corinthians 5:11, 13 (KJV)

Homosexuality, like all other types of fornication, has no place in the family of God. Regardless of what modern promoters of “gay liberation” might wish to believe, sexual perversions are not inherited genetically but rather are learned behaviors and willful sins. Like alcoholism and other such sins of the flesh, they may become very difficult to give up for those who have been enslaved by them, but God is able to give deliverance to any who sincerely desire true freedom and salvation.

To “straight” Christians in the church, however, the familiar old admonition to “hate the sin, but love the sinner” surely applies in such cases. Homosexuals, long accustomed to being looked upon with disgust by most people, are understandably anxious for acceptance by society. Nevertheless, they must not be encouraged to continue in their wickedness, for it may well cost them their eternal souls. Instead, they need to be “loved into the kingdom,” being delivered first of all from their rebellion against God, then to Christ for salvation and cleansing.

Notice Paul's testimony concerning the very real possibility of such deliverance:

Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, …shall inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.
—I Corinthians 6:9-11 (KJV)

When there is true repentance and the sin is forsaken, then such a person should be lovingly received into the fellowship of believers (or back into that fellowship, if previously excommunicated), like any other repentant and believing sinner. This is the example given in the case of the incestuous Corinthian:

Sufficient to such a man is this punishment, which was inflicted of many. So that contrariwise ye ought rather to forgive him, and comfort him, lest perhaps such a one should be swallowed up with overmuch sorrow. Wherefore I beseech you that you would confirm your love toward him.
—II Corinthians 2:6-8 (KJV)

In spite of great pressure today from humanists and other liberals to get homosexuality recognized as an acceptable—if not even preferable—life style, the Bible makes it plain that it is really unnatural and animalistic wickedness that must be rejected by true Christians.

At the same time, we cannot forget that Christ died for their sins, as well as ours. They are still objects of His sacrificial love, and we should seek earnestly to bring them to Him for cleansing and deliverance.

4Godisjust #fundie rr-bb.com

Hello, well I have known a lot of homosexuals that have told me, one in particular over the course of his life especially when he was a child that he was raped and molested by his uncles, and others in the family.

Many woman are also raped, molested and physically abused when they are a child then when they are adults they marry into a abusive marriage with a man who is the same as the male who abused them as a child, many of them divorce, then become lesbien because of the fear of abuse, there are 100's probably more of cases of this.

My poor friend as he told me his story, his boyfriend was so physically abusive, he always told me he never felt normal being gay, but it was all he knew in his life, I told him what happen to him was wrong, and no child should go thru their childhood with such abuse, then I asked why he he is alowing those abusers to win? He should take control back for his life and not allow those people to dictate his life! He said I never thought of it that way, through out the weeks I became his friend, he changed, he decided to leave his boyfriend, make a fresh start, find a job and heal, maybe marry and have a family, Jesus was starting, we had set up a time and place to meet to say goodbye, he was afraid his boyfriend would kill him and if I heard something it probably was true, a couple of days later, it happen just as he feared, he was beaten and brutally killed by his boyfriend, it was all over the news, I knew it was him, he told me a lot of stories that only insiders of the gay community would know about, and the male gay community is a little weirder and sicker then the lesbien community. But both is sad, these lost, hurting souls, desperately need Jesus to save them and to turn from the hurting and live, breath again!

Even with all that I know these people are humans but they need to be told the truth, and turn from there sin, asked God to Forgive them, change, repent and make a difference for God with there lives, and make a difference!Instead of being something their not and something they will never be.
with love, compassion, mercy, and Gods grace anything is possible!

I love life #fundie answers.yahoo.com

Raise your hand to the lord my atheists and ask for forgiveness?
Will you repent your sins and give up the evils in your life. Alcohol, Cigarettes, Sex, Drugs, Violent TV programmes and video games. When you are cast into the fiery flames in the devils company and you wish to pray for forgiveness then to be taken to the heavens it will be too late. Will you take my hand and join me with the Lord?

Michael Brown #fundie charismanews.com

I have no desire to pile on with more comments about Josh Duggar, who appears to be a very serious and committed Christian and who has made no excuses for the sins of his youth and who deeply desires to make a positive impact for the Lord in the years ahead. I simply want to share some redemptive thoughts, supplementing some of the excellent statements made by others, including former governor Mike Huckabee and Southern Baptist leader Russell Moore.

1. Jesus really does change people. While critics of the Duggar family want to indict them (along with other evangelical Christians, especially those with large families) for Josh's actions, and while many seem ready to throw Josh under the bus, the fact is that while he did sin grievously, through repentance, faith and counseling, he became a new man. Jesus really does transform sinners.

How many of us did wicked things as teenagers? I was shooting heroin at the age of 15 and broke into some houses and even stole money from my own father before being radically converted at the age of 16. I was profane, filled with pride, anger and lust, yet the Lord had mercy on me and totally turned my life around.

Some of us continued to live like this into our adult years, only to find mercy and new life then, meaning that the transformation was even more dramatic.

For me, the first lesson from this story is this: Whoever you are, whatever you've done, there is hope in the Lord. As Mike Huckabee said, "'inexcusable' ... doesn't mean 'unforgivable.'"

As Paul wrote to the Corinthians, "Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor male prostitutes, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. Such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified, and you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus by the Spirit of our God" (1 Cor. 6:9-11).

2. There's no excuse for sin, so own up to it. In today's culture, almost no one is guilty of anything. It's someone else's fault, someone else's responsibility, not our own. We're all victims, and the reason we do bad things is because someone else wronged us. Isn't that how we think today?

I've even heard athletes apologize for some really heinous actions by saying, "I'm not happy with the way things happened," rather than saying, "What I did was wrong and I have no excuses. Please forgive me. I'm seeking to get to the root of my problems and address them."

What a vast difference between the two attitudes.

As Proverbs states, "He who covers his sins will not prosper, but whoever confesses and forsakes them will have mercy" (28:13).

According to the accounts we've all heard, Josh confessed his sin to his parents as well as to the proper authorities, and as a family, they worked through the issues. Now, half a lifetime later (he's 27 and is married with four children), when confronted with a police report about his past, he did not minimize his sin nor did he excuse it. He also resigned from the fine Christian organization for whom he worked, not wanting to bring any negative attention to their work.

When I see someone respond like this, I am filled with hope. In fact, over the years, I've seen that people who committed uglier sins but took full responsibility and repented did far better than those who committed less serious sins and tried to sweep them under the rug.

3. Even godly families have kids who mess up badly. Nancy and I only had two kids, and we sought to be godly parents and set godly examples. Yet our older daughter went through a real period of rebellion in her teen years.

As parents, we felt miserable, and I would wonder what I was doing wrong.

Of course, we dealt with her rebellion head on and prayed like crazy for her to really encounter the Lord, but while it was happening, it was terribly deflating spiritually. What kind of father am I? How can I be so ineffective?

Today, we all laugh about those years, and our daughter, who is now 37 and is a devoted wife and mother, is so grateful for the way she was raised. (She and Nancy are the best of friends and are in constant contact.)

The fact that the Duggars, who successfully raised 19 children in the Lord (who can imagine that?), had to deal with one of their kids committing serious sexual sin at 14 should actually encourage other parents rather than discourage them. And perhaps, they can teach us today how this tragic incident helped them come together as a family and draw closer to the Lord.

4. Josh can be an ambassador on behalf of the abused, even helping the abusers, as well. While it can feel like your life is over when your past, largely private sins become public (how many of us would like for that to happen?), the fact is that Josh's future can be bright in the Lord.

He can call on others who are sinning to come clean and get help, using his own example redemptively. And he can encourage those who have been abused to realize that they are not guilty and should not feel shame, also encouraging churches to embrace those who come for help rather than making them feel as if there is something wrong with them.

Why should those who have suffered abuse be stigmatized? They should be our priority for healing and restoration.

5. We need to be careful how we judge. There are many fans of the Duggars who are upset with what they feel is a witch hunt against a godly family, representing one more attempt to remove them from reality TV. (Let me say without qualification that there is life after reality TV, and if the Duggars never do another broadcast, their lives can still be overwhelmingly blessed.)

But would we have had this same attitude of judgment if this was the child of a gay couple? Would we have said, "This proves that gay parents are no good!"?

I certainly believe that kids deserve a mom and a dad and that, optimally, they will do best with a mom and dad, but I don't indict all gay couples because of the failings of one of their kids

So, if you want to show mercy, be consistent. We can all fall into the trap of selective compassion.

6. There are consequences to our actions, but with God, our worst mistakes can become stepping stones to spiritual growth.

Most of us have done things we wish we could take back, and in some cases, the consequences of our bad choices and sinful actions last for decades. Yet with the Lord, no matter how great the stigma of our sin, if we will humble ourselves before Him, He can take those stumbling blocks and turn them into stepping stones, to the point that the worst things that ever happened to us become the best things that ever happened to us.

To the core of His being, God is a redeemer, and I'm personally praying and believing that for Josh Duggar and his entire family, God will turn this painful situation around for greater good.

Let's watch and see.

jesuitinfiltrator #fundie youtube.com

I find it highly amusing how you pagans and atheists continually appeal to the LAW OF MOSES for your defense in attacking the word of God. Christians are under a NEW COVENANT, not old testament stoning laws. Christ fulfilled ALL the demands of the levitical and judicial laws on the cross by his sacrifice, we no longer need to observe such laws, but trust me if you don\'t repent, your final reward will be a LOT worse than stoning.

warriorforgod #fundie ministeringdeliverance.com

...when I go several days without having sex with my wife, I begin to burn with desire. When the time is not right with her I try to work thru it, but 9 times out of 10, I will eventually give in the desire, rationalize it as okay and then go masturbate to relieve the burning. I then go thru a shame/guilt process before I always come to me senses and go to the throne of grace and repent and beg forgiveness. I am sick and tired of dealing with this. I have read some sites that say it is not even a sin, but i know in my spirit that it is. I must have control over my body and my life and I have that power thru Christ and his promises. Is this a demon? Is it my uncrucified flesh?

NicholasMarks #fundie religionethics.co.uk


If I can shape and fashion a Biblically acceptable God who owns the entire universe and who dictates the terms and conditions of all who have a future hope in living in peace and harmony for all eternity, here on planet Earth...then certainly a clever and responsible 'being' could be shaped and fashioned by sharper, keener laws that have perhaps escaped my abilities...My version says that Almighty God exists because, whilst residing in Heaven...he broke the hidden code of nature and discovered that an indestructible energy can deliver an indestructible spirit that can discover, and formulate, all scientific knowledge that that universe offers, accurately and precisely...and that could only benefit those who are prepared to listen. Those that did listen counted in their great multitudes and because they were given such a rewarding life they stick with their Deity through thick and thin...and all this is recorded in the Holy Bible for those who read it honestly and openly and who have sidestepped the obvious traps that iniquity sponsor within it for their own benefits.

Those that cannot find the same faith, for whatever reason, will always be troublesome, working blindly for greed and selfishness, spitefully and inharmoniously, and so God has decreed that the next global event that will affect every person, the quick and the dead, at that time, and which is foretold in Revelation and on YouTube, will have to suffer the natural consequences of their disobedience...This is summed up in Revelation 21:8...where the disobedient will be whisked off to a future best described as eternal damnation...because the part of you that cannot die will be evicted from this planet, and into a sulphurous, fiery planet, for all eternity. Satan is busy building his defenses but they are like matchwood against a very forceful, electric universe and a righteous God.

Tom Brock #fundie oneby1.org

I have struggled with homosexual temptation most of my life. By the grace of God I have always been celibate but the struggle for me has been intense. Sadly, the battle was also with my own denomination. In my 22 years as a pastor in the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America I spoke at church conventions for the Biblical standard of celibacy for those with same-sex attraction. Sadly, in 2009 the ELCA adopted a more liberal view and began ordaining practicing homosexuals. I have left the ELCA but I continue in my television ministry to uphold the truth that homosexual behavior is sin, and the fact that I struggle with this temptation does not give me license to practice the behavior.

This summer I testified before a hearing at the convention of the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) as they debated whether to change the definition of marriage to include homosexual couples. I explained that I am a person who struggles with same-sex attraction but the last thing I want to see is the Church endorse a behavior that hurts people in this life and which excludes them from the Kingdom in the next (I Corinthian 6:9-11).

I stated: "Is it not arrogant to think that we are somehow more enlightened than all the Christians who came before us?" I believe it is safest to interpret Scripture the way Christians have understood it for 2,000 years and the solid testimony of church history is against homosexual behavior. The Biblical interpretation that has led some denominations astray – notably the ELCA, Presbyterian Church USA, the Episcopal Church in America, and the United Church of Christ – maintains that the Bible does not condemn homosexual behavior per se, but only promiscuous homosexual behavior. As much as part of me – my flesh – would like to believe I can legitimately engage in homosexual behavior, the Bible remains a permanent obstacle. An objective reading of Leviticus 18:22, 20:13, Deuteronomy 22:5, Romans 1:26-27, I Corinthians 6:9-11, I Timothy 1:8-10, Jude 6,7 makes clear that the Bible's condemnation of homosexual behavior is a blanket one. There is never the added caveat: But it is okay if you love each other.

At the Presbyterian convention, one pastor testified that the denomination should allow her to marry lesbians in her congregation because "If I don't I will hurt them." I responded, "No, to encourage them to engage in a behavior which will rob them of salvation, that is what will hurt them."

I was interviewed on Minneapolis radio about my struggle and the interviewer asked, "Pastor Brock, why don't you just go with this orientation as who you are." I responded, "I'm glad I didn't. I'd be dead. Many men my age who went into this lifestyle are dead." Some liberal Lutheran bishops I know believe they are being loving by affirming homosexual behavior. The truth is they are hurting people. As one old Lutheran pastor said, "They are nicing people right into hell." I can't tell you how grievous it was for me with my struggle to hear bishops endorse something that I knew was evil.

So what does one do if one suffers from same-sex attraction? I believe the answer is: fight. Nowhere are we told the Christian life will be easy. I once heard someone say "But God would never ask you to deny something so central to your make-up as homosexuality." I thought, "Why not?" If we believe in the doctrine of original sin – that we are all born sinners because of Adam's fall (Romans 5) – then indeed every Christian is called to battle the sin that is so central to our make-up. One often hears "But I didn't choose this." I can relate. I never consciously asked to have these temptations. But most alcoholics do not wake up one morning and say "I think I'll have a drinking problem." Kleptomaniacs do not say "I think I'll have a problem with shoplifting." We may not choose our temptations in life, but we do choose what we do with our temptations. To be tempted is not sin. Jesus was tempted in Matthew 4. What we do with temptation shows whether we are endeavoring to follow Christ. And, praise God, even if we do fall under temptation, there is forgiveness when we repent and turn to Christ.

What will help people who struggle with same-sex attraction? Of course, regular prayer, Bible reading and being in a good church, a church that has not compromised on this issue. But for most people struggling with same-sex attraction, the crucial key is accountability. I have been part of a Christian support group for those who struggle with same-sex attraction. If you Google "Exodus International" you will most likely find a group in your area where you can join other Christians who have this struggle. Also very important for me are the weekly phone calls I make to my accountability partner who helps keep me on the straight and narrow.

Lastly, where does homosexuality come from? Is it nature (in the genes) or nurture (in one's upbringing)? I lean toward the latter but ultimately it does not matter. Wherever it comes from, we are called upon to follow Christ and say "no" to it. As our Lord Himself stated: "If anyone would come after me, let him deny himself and take up his cross daily and follow me" (Luke 9:23).

wcknight #fundie forums.catholic.com

[Just because you believe it's true doesn't mean it happened, and neither does 400 people claiming to be raised from the dead make it true without evidence. A larger number of people (as far as I know) claim to have seen and/or been abducted by aliens, does that make it true?]

First off it's not 400 people claiming to be resurrected, its 400 folks who were raised from the dead with hundreds if not thousands of eye witnesses.

It's a bit different with UFO's, they don't stick around to testify about it. BUT believe (or don't believe what you want). You follow the old adage, for the non-believer no amount of proof is ever sufficient. For most here no proof is necessary. These things only confirm what we already know.

cubitano #fundie christianforums.com

I just left my local assembly for the same reason, and am very sad. A "new direction" has blown in and now it is all about "unconditional forgiveness". The word "repent" has been excised.

Let me tell you this, there will be satanists at the last day that will not be much surprised at their upcoming suffering.

There will be more atheists, "convenience" agnostics, pagans and just plain hedonists on judgement day. They will be unplesantly surprised.

There will be Muslims greatly shocked by their great suffering: an eternity with 72 virgin women. All of them equally unhappy feminist lesbians.

But nothing will compare to the shock and gnashing of teeth by those who have amased fortunes on earth by the misuse of His Name.

Read Matt 22 and shudder, you who have a form of godliness but deny The Power by preaching a meek and mild Jesus.

If the Pharisees were taken aback by the Saviour that came as a lamb, how much more shall today's ministers be cursed when the Lion of Judah shows up instead of the sacrificial lamb.

The FEAR of God is beginning of wisdom. While it is true that Perfect Love casts out fear, as the Gospel fulfilled the Law, it starts with FEAR. Not awe, not reverence, not "an appreciation of the numinous", but abject terror.

JR

aerospacemajor #fundie boards.msn.com

God is a myth?! Billions of people down through the ages disagree with you. Perhaps you should change your ways and repent; God will forgive you and not punish you eternally. If you continue on your present course, you will have to explain to God--in person someday--why you blasphemed Him and His ways.

Respectfully,

A Sincere Christian

Joubert #fundie discerningtheworld.com

Christians never smell neutral. We can’t. Then we’re using the wrong deodorant! The we suppress the life-giving fragrance of the heavenly perfume that God poured out over us. Jesus’ smell sticks to us forever. We can’t follow Him without smelling like Him. Our Jesus-scent is our identity. But Jesus is also busy spreading this fragrance world-wide. We’re full-time spreaders of his life-giving heavenly aromas. That’s why we need to smell Jesus in those people around is who need Him. And we need to deliver his scent there. We need to pass it on. And spread it further. That’s how the good fragrance of the gospel spreads.”

Spider58x11 #fundie youtube.com

+equarg Oh shut up idiot. I hate you one-sided hypocritical moralist liberals. Women weren't the angelic poor helpless victim they show them here as if they were arbitrarily beaten regularly for no reason at all. Just look at what modern women devolved into, fat, ugly , man hating feminist who often kill their own children and sexual molest others while divorcing men and taking alway their children and their assets with government force. Women are downright sociopathic sick people. Women got what they deserved back then. People back then knew what women were and treated them as such.?

David J. Stewart #sexist jesusisprecious.org

A man has veto power to decide who his wife doesn't have as friends, but the courts view that as abuse. Biblically, a man is to rule over his wife with Christ's love, but he is still her boss when he doesn't love her as he ought. If we only obeyed the government when our leaders are perfect, we'd have total anarchy. If a wife doesn't clean the house, her husband is the only one who can rebuke her. Who else is going to do it? The court's consider that as “domestic abuse.” A feminist psychologist would diagnose such a lazy wife with “posttraumatic stress,” blaming the husband for picking on his wife. No psychologist will diagnosis a woman with lack character; but rather, send her to a psychiatrist for a drug prescription. This is how “the system” works. Literally, a wife can slack off and shirk her wifely duties and a husband has no recourse of action.

Is it any wonder why men don't want to get married these days? Think about it! A man's wife can deny him sex, refuse to cook him a meal, refuse to get him a drink, refuse to clean the house, refuse to do anything, and there's absolutely NOTHING he can do about it. Yet, she can easily obtain a free (government pro-bono paid) lawyer simply be alleging “abuse,” drag him into court, and the judge will crucify him. This is not justice! Destroying marriages is not helping society. Courts never require a couple to undergo a mandatory year of counseling before considering a divorce. The reason why is because the banksters can't steal your home if you call off the divorce. The reason why is because the New World Order can't succeed if your marriage is restored. CPS can't steal your children if mom and dad have a happy marriage. And the truth is, the heathen world can offer no real help for your struggling marriage, because they reject the holy God of the holy Bible. Psalms 1:1-2, “Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful. But his delight is in the law of the LORD; and in his law doth he meditate day and night.” The Bible has all the answers!

Anonymous Coward #fundie godlikeproductions.com

This is no hoax.. this is from God

The governments know that God is not happy and is trying to get the world to repent. The Bible talks about pestilence, and wrath in the last days, but also forgiveness and hope to those who repent and believe in Christ.

Trump just tweeted that we are fighting an "invisible" enemy. They see God as their enemy. Bible says "He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation."

Yes, there are more plagues coming. Please turn to the Lord Jesus and let God lead you into all light, blessing and righteousness.

thorin25 #fundie healingcd.wordpress.com

Steps for Giving up and Stopping Crossdressing:

I thought it would be helpful to compile a list of good beginning steps for those who want to give up crossdressing for good. This is just a starting point for those who wish to stop crossdressing completely. Stopping crossdressing altogether is a long process, and there is much more that could be said and be done, besides the brief steps I’ve outlined here. But for those that want to finally overcome crossdressing in their lives, this is a good place to begin.

These steps are in an order. The order is just my own opinion on what I think would be most helpful. Obviously many people will disagree with these steps, or the order, or that crossdressing even needs to be stopped. But for those that do want to stop crossdressing, I hope this can be somewhat helpful for you.

It can take a long time to stop. For myself, I was doing almost all of these things for about 10 years and it still took until last year for me to stop completely. For me, I think primarily I was missing the belief that it was really possible to stop (Step #2). I knew logically that it was possible, but it just seemed too unlikely until I found others online who had already given up crossdressing. Then I was like, “hey if they can stop for good, I can too.” It was like a light bulb turned on and stopping finally was attainable and I finally stopped crossdressing for good.

1. Desire to stop crossdressing.

The first step obviously is that you have to actually want to stop crossdressing. Maybe you think crossdressing is sinful and so you want to stop. Maybe you think its destructive in your life and so you want to stop. Maybe its harming your marriage and so you want to stop. Maybe you are just afraid of the reality of getting caught. But whatever the case may be, the first step has to be some desire to stop. If you aren’t to that point yet, consider reading these posts.

2. Believe that it is possible to stop crossdressing.

Make yourself inundated with the truth about crossdressing and the ability to stop it by reading through the posts on my website, as well as the posts on the fellow fighters’ websites that I have links to on my homepage. Spend some hours reading. Read and watch testimonies on my links page. Most crossdressers are stuck in the belief that it is impossible to stop crossdressing and are stuck in the self-deception of crossdressing. Read some new perspectives from these websites.

3. Decide to stop crossdressing.

Following this desire to stop crossdressing and the belief that it is possible, make a firm decision for yourself that you are going to fight to stop crossdressing and get it out of your life. Make this a clear firm moment in your life and maybe even write down the date. We always have the freewill to make such a decision. After you make the decision, make a plan of attack for yourself. Don’t leave things up to chance. Change your old habits. Make a detailed strategy and plan to fight crossdressing.

4. Pray.

If you are not a Christian, I think figuring out what you believe about the meaning of life, what you believe about God, is far more important than anything to do with crossdressing. It’s more important that you think about life and death and why we exist than to read my website.

For those who already have a relationship with Jesus, prayer is vital. There are few components to this. 1. Prayer of confession and repentance and asking God’s forgiveness for past crossdressing and related sins. 2. Prayers of thanksgiving for forgiveness, salvation, and God’s love. 3. Prayer to ask God for help to overcome the crossdressing addiction. 4. Prayer as just talking to God, growing in your relationship with him. Praise him, thank him, worship him, talk to him. Become more intimate and purposeful in your relationship with God. Continue with this step until you die ??

5. Read, study, and memorize Scripture.

Delve into Scripture, the Bible, God’s Word. Fill your mind with truth. Fill your mind with God’s promises of forgiveness and grace. Fill your mind with God’s promises of him giving us the power to resist sin. Learn about God. Read about Jesus’ life. Grow in your relationship with him. Follow the Bible’s instruction about how to life a full, joyful, fulfilling, fruitful life as God intended. Continue with this step until you die as well.

6. Get rid of temptations.

Giving up crossdressing will be extremely difficult at first. To help ourselves as much as possible we need to try to lessen the amount of triggers and temptations in our lives. One obvious first step is getting rid of any secret stash of clothing right away. Take it to Goodwill and be done with it. There is no reason for you to keep it. If you think you might go back to crossdressing someday and therefore it would be a waste to get rid of the clothes, then, (in my opinion), you really haven’t committed to stopping yet. You need to go back to some of the first few steps again.

If the internet is a problem for you, consider getting an internet filter. If your wife’s clothing being left out is a problem for you, consider telling her what she can to help you better. Don’t do things that are technically “okay” if they will trigger your addiction. For me that meant little things like not wearing an apron. Be wise about how you take trips. Grow a beard so that crossdressing will be less satisfying and easy. (Plus this also might help you to feel more like a man again)

Be careful about being alone so much of the time. Get around other people. Spend more time with friends or outside hobbies. Fill your time with something different things.

I think it is important to stop crossdressing cold turkey rather than through gradual lessening of crossdressing in the attempt to lessen the desires and temptations. However, there are other forms of conditioning/unconditioning, mostly done with counselors, that could be helpful in stopping crossdressing.

Consider fasting – Fasting can be a good recovery tool.

Don’t expect it to be easy to heal from this addiction. Don’t expect it to be easy to reduce the temptations. You would put a lot of time into learning a language or an instrument. You would put a lot of effort into getting rid of a drug addiction. Why expect this to be different?

7. Dealing with temptations that come

It’s one thing to get rid of as many temptations as we can. But what do we do when temptations do make it through to us? What can we do when we suddenly have a strong desire to put on our wife’s sexy black high heels or really want to read the latest crossdressing fiction story online? We have to be ready to deal with the temptations and desires we will inevitably still experience. Here are a few ideas.

First of all, stick to your commitment not to give in to crossdressing at all. And I would add, do not to let yourself fantasize about crossdressing at all. You don’t need to kick yourself for having a crossdressing thought come into your mind. But don’t let yourself dwell in pleasurable crossdressing fantasies. If you want to really successfully stop crossdressing and find healing from it, you have to fight these fantasies as well. Fantasizing about it only adds more power to it, and you’ll probably eventually manifest the fantasies through concrete actions of crossdressing. (Not to mention God cares about what goes on in our hearts and minds beyond just what we do).

But this is not to say we should suppress our crossdressing desires. When they come we should acknowledge them and deal with them. Trying to ignore them or bury them will probably either just cause them to bubble forth like a volcano at some later point, or cause you mental anguish. It’s important we be honest with ourselves about the thoughts that come into our minds, but then deal with them without burying them.

Something I’ve found most helpful is telling myself affirmations of truth during times of temptation. I break through the crossdressing rationalizations and lies by reminding myself, “I don’t really want to crossdress.” “I don’t want to sin because I love God and am thankful for his forgiveness.” “I always feel stupid after crossdressing.”

I also have found distractions to be helpful during times of temptations. The sexual power of crossdressing temptations often makes me lose my head. But if I do something else briefly, rational thinking returns and the strong temptation subsides. For me playing an engaging video game helps a lot. For others it could be playing an instrument, taking a walk, working out, etc.

It also helps to have some way to get rid of sexual build up and tension. For those of us who are married, finding ways to have more sexual or just physical time with our wife can be very helpful. And if you’ve opened up to her about your fight against your crossdressing addiction, she may be more willing to help you out with more sexual time together. Another way to release the sexual tension is to use masturbation as a crutch. But you have to be careful with this one.

For many crossdressers it might be nearly impossible to masturbate while thinking about anything other than crossdressing. If this is the case, you may have to avoid masturbation altogether. But for me, I found it very helpful to give up crossdressing and increase my desire for my wife by thinking about her while masturbating. It took discipline. But releasing that sexual tension at times was very helpful when tempted.

8. Get some accountability.

Realize that you probably are not going to be successful doing this alone. Find others in your life to support you, some for indirect support, and some people for direct support who know about your crossdressing struggle. Part of this support could be going to church. It could be finding a specific church small group to admit your struggle to. It could be joining a sex addicts anonymous group.

It could include telling a couple close friends about your addiction and getting their encouragement and accountability. It could involve telling your wife. Telling close friends and my wife was immensely helpful to me. We all need people to confess our sins to because when we confess to someone, temptations lose their power over us. We need people to ask us regularly how we are doing. We need people who will stick by us through thick and thin. We need people who will encourage us. We need people who will celebrate with us when we are successful at beating crossdressing, and people who will help pick us back up and remind us of God’s grace at times that we fail. We need to commit to telling the truth if we are going to be successful.

I’d highly encourage you to tell your wife about your crossdressing struggle. Being a woman, and being in such an intimate relationship with you puts her in a unique position. Just telling her will help you, even though it could be very painful for both of you at first. But the truth may just set you both free. Having your wife know brings a reality check to your actions that is hard to match. She can help you realize the foolishness of what you were doing and encourage you in your new fight against it. She can help you think through your own personality and struggle with crossdressing. I also think this kind of honesty is terribly vital for such an important and intimate relationship like marriage. Crossdressing is something that has shaped your entire life, and it would help her to understand you better to know about it.

You also might want to consider confessing sins of crossdressing to your wife, sister, mother, or others in your life that you might have confused or hurt by your crossdressing, as well as asking them for forgiveness. Last, I have an email prayer list I’ve created for those of us who are fighting and struggling together or have a heart to pray for those who are struggling. It’s a great way to receive prayer and help from others who are also fighting crossdressing

9. Find a valuable purpose in life and positive ways to use your energy

I think a lot of us can’t seem to give up our struggle with crossdressing we don’t take life very seriously. We don’t get much fulfillment out of other things in life. We are just ticking the time away, not working hard at our jobs, not finding ways to contribute to the world and help other people. We have no ultimate purpose in life, such as the purpose of loving God, living for him, and loving other people because of God’s love for us. If life is pretty meaningless for you, and nothing really stretches you, or gives you joy and fulfillment, then of course you’d keep turning back to crossdressing or pornography for fleeting pleasures. So my first piece of advice here again is to find your ultimate purpose and meaning in life in God. And then figure out what his specific purpose is for you in your life. What has he created you to do? How can he use you to impact the world and make it a better place in some small but meaningful ways?

Besides just finding a purpose in life, we need positive ways to use our energy. Volunteering, helping people out, fun hobbies, and getting involved in church are just a few ways to learn how to spend our time differently. Instead of spending all of our free time hiding in closets in our wives’ clothes, we can do things that have value, and things that help others. Try something new. Read some good books. Stretch yourself out of your comfort zone. Find some adventure in life beyond crossdressing.

I also include in this step rediscovering who we are as men. Start letting your male traits out. Enjoy being a man. Have your wife affirm your manhood. Upgrade your male wardrobe. Enjoy taking care of your appearance as a man. Enjoy looking good as a man.

Find out what the Bible says about true manhood and personhood. Many of the stereotypes about masculinity and femininity in our culture are at best stifling, and at worst destructive, and may even have contributed to our developing desires for crossdressing. Learn to integrate the contrasting aspects of your personality that were divided into your male self and crossdressing self. Be a whole complete human being. Those aspects of your personality that you stifled in order to be a man of our culture, and which came out in your crossdressing times, integrate them into your real self.

Last, a little tidbit. Take your desire for female beauty and interest in fashion and point it towards your girlfriend or wife. Talk to her about fashion and what you find beautiful. Go shopping with her and help her find things that look good on her. You can enjoy the female clothes in the way they were supposed to be enjoyed by you, that is, on your wife or girlfriend. This way you can utilize your healthy attention to female beauty in a healthy non-deceitful way.

10. Make peace with the reality that the temptations might never go away.

Like most temptations to sin, the reality is that the temptations might never completely go away. This is just the reality and should not make us depressed. Treat crossdressing like an addiction. An alcoholic might always have certain small desires to drink, but they continue to resist the rest of their life. Similarly, we might desire it at times for the rest of our lives, but we can still resist. And we can still lead a healthy fulfilling life.

But don’t focus so much on the future, just to take things one day at a time. The day’s problems and temptations are enough to worry about.

I would like to encourage you though that it is of course possible for your crossdressing desires to completely go away. Each person is different and there are some who seem to have no more temptations. For me, my crossdressing desires are largely nonexistent these days. Once in a while, rarely, I’ll have some crossdressing temptations, but they’ve become easy to resist. I think that for any of us who stop crossdressing, after the first really hard withdrawal period, the crossdressing temptations slowly start to lessen in strength.

11. Deal with failure in a healthy way.

If you fail, spend time confessing to God and enjoying his forgiveness, and then get going again in your fight against crossdressing. Don’t let Satan use your failure for evil. Satan hits us hard in our failures. He loves to make us wallow in condemnation, thinking we aren’t good enough to be forgiven by God. It’s true we aren’t good enough, but God forgives us because of his merciful and loving nature, not because we deserve forgiveness. And Satan also likes to use failure to make us think we have no power over sin and so we might as well give up. But God promises us that he has given us the power to resist any temptation that comes our way.

Satan also likes to encourage us to conquer sin using our own strength. This only leads to failure or pride. The true way to fight sin, is to find joy in God’s forgiveness, and be transformed by that forgiveness and grace. Then we fight sin, not for our own pride, not using our own strength, but we do it with God’s strength. We fight sin out of thanksgiving for God’s grace, not in order to earn God’s grace. Keep going back to God’s forgiveness and grace. It should be the motivation for all the good that we do. We aren’t trying to earn anything.

12. Try to understand yourself more deeply.

I’m convinced that an important part of the healing process from crossdressing, is trying to understand ourselves more deeply. Rather than just stopping crossdressing and leaving it in the past, we should spend some time researching, studying, and thinking about what caused us to develop the crossdressing desires we have. But be careful about doing this. Wait until you’ve successfully stopped crossdressing for a while, otherwise studying it and thinking about it could cause you to stumble.

When you are in a safe place in your journey of giving up crossdressing ask yourself these questions. What emotions and thoughts were going on behind the actions and behind the temptations? Think about how crossdressing has shaped your personality both positively and negatively. How did God use this part of your past for good, or how will he use it for good? Think through gender issues. Think through personality issues. Think through the ways crossdressing has affected your life. You could also consider seeing a counselor to help you work through these issues, but realize you may know far more about crossdressing and its effects than your counselor. It’s a subject that hasn’t been studied enough. Further, many counselors seem to think its harmless and don’t realize how destructive it can be.

Eden Decoded #fundie facebook.com

Bitter truth: If Grandma or Momma couldn’t get or keep a husband; And now you can’t even get a man to consider you for marriage…There is a serious problem. And the problem is demonic. No amount of makeup, heels, education, income or hair weave is going to change your singleness.

And the longer you fornicate, masturbate, get drunk and over-eat to the point where you become big as a house, don’t expect your singleness to change. (It’s a shame we have to tell ‘church’ women this!)

Yes, God is a redeemer. But he doesn’t redeem you until you start to DO what he says (keyword here is START). God doesn’t reward sinfulness. He punishes sinfulness. And this punishment is just if we decide to continuously do things against the will of God.

So expect to continue having broken relationships, and missed marriage opportunities. God will not reward you with a godly man until you are a godly woman.

There are far too many church women running around acting like divas, where are the saintly righteous women?

Anonymous #racist blogger.com

I watched a toe curling episode of "Wild at Heart" where a very young and beautiful English blonde girl was chastised by the vet for staying out at night. The precocious little bitch said Ooooh I like him! and sneered at the older peers. Next thing the vet is metaphorically arse wiping a vile example of an African youth forgiving him almost, for molesting the young white girl.

Trendy(sic)magazines like Cosmo, Marie Claire and numerous teeny bop mags promote these monkeys as examples of the ultimate in male virility to the point of making an impressionable young white female feel as though she isn't with it or missing something if she isn't screwing one.

Ugly thick looking white males are carefully selected and contrasted against the tamed and 'bright' looking monkeys to add impact.

The editorial reptiles behind these 'girly' mags know exactly who and what they're targeting.

By the time these poor ignorant/naive girls awake to the treachery and savagery of the snake and the ape it's too late, their lives are essentially over without them even realising it.

The parents are 1/2 the problem - equally as ignorant, all consumed with political correctness and consumerism itself just so as to be liked 'fit in' - pathetic...!

MrFalcon675 #conspiracy manhood101.com

The goverment has used feminism to bring back slavery and debtors' prison via child support laws and alimony. I guess it decided that it really couldn't exist without these vices. When all of the productive men are gone this country will not be able to fund itself and it will be damned if it will give men any positive incentives for anything. When it comes to men there is a stick but no carrot approach and you can see it in the? never ending shaming language.