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ngrifford #racist stormfront.org

(Humanity is one species.)

I agree, composed of five distinct subspecies, and numerous races - that much is clear even to a child. Any adult who wilfully denies the existence of race has a serious problem with reality... Or is attempting to convince the races to mix with each other and, in doing so, destroy their unique biological, genetic inheritance.

By the way, your assertions are about to be completely annihilated by the members of this forum. Just a polite warning... I could do it, but I have a bad back today.

P.S. As a starter for ten: before the great social revolution which successfully created such insurmountable taboos in the field anthropology, Dr. Raymond Hall, chairman of the Department of Zoology and Director of the Museum of Natural History at the University of Kansas, described the five subspecies of man thusly (in 1946):

Homo sapiens sapiens
Homo sapiens afer
Homo sapiens americanus
Homo sapiens asiaticus
Homo sapiens tasmanianus

You wouldn't have heard about that because all your textbooks have been "approved" by those who want you to continue to labour under the illusion that all humans are the same and fundamentally equal. Suppression and misinformation is a far more effective strategy than book burning, don't you think?

johnmuise #fundie johnmuise.deviantart.com

Let's forget for a moment the obvious fact that apes can no more breed human descendants than humans can breed zebras as descendants. All anyone has to understand is the simple birds and bees to know why. But for those who don't, let's engage in fantasy and see what had to have happened for this impossible, crazy theory to have taken place;

1) Each ape had to find another creature which with to breed to create offspring that looks more like a human than an ape. The odds of that are incalculable.
2) Then these exact same offspring had to migrate all over the world because according to science fiction writers, homo-sapiens also existed in North America
3) The next step in this impossible chain is that each homo sapiens in North America had to find a mate identical to the mates of other homo-sapiens in Africa to breed descendants who could speak! That make the odds even more incalculable since no two animals and humans look and act alike. So the exact same so-called "mutations" had to have happened in thousands of homosapiens which makes the odds unfathomable as to be impossible.
4) There are no accounts by any ancient cultures of any of these creatures ever existing yet they are supposed to be our ancestors.
5) The so-called common ancestor from which these creatures supposedly came is still as imaginary as the minds who invented them. That makes the common ancestor as imaginary as the Flying spaghetti monster.

Carico #fundie city-data.com

No ancient people in history have ever passed along accounts of our alleged "vine-swinging ancestors." One would think that the first fully formed humans would have marvelous stories about their non-speaking parents and ancestors. But of course, no one does because the story of evolution is as imaginary, convoluted, and far-fetched as "Lord of the Rings."


But at least Tolken knew his story was fiction. Evolutionists on the other hand, actually believe their characters were real. That's what makes evolutionists delusional.


And reading what's on a fossil is as subjective as looking at the shapes that leaves on a tree form.


So again, let's hear the real history of the Jews. I bet it's as far-fetched and entertaining as the claim that apes once turned into people.

John Crawford #fundie christianforums.com

Evolutionist Discrimination in Public Education.

There are currently five categories which the U.S. legally recognizes in which persons may voluntarily identify and classify themselves as, according to their self-evident, self-recognized and self-identified common ancestral racial traits of national and geographic origins. None of these categories are Homo sapiens.

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As far as the U.S. legal system is concerned, there does not seem to be any legally protected class of persons called Homo sapiens or any ancestral category of persons named Homo erectus from whom Homo sapiens are believed by neo-Darwinists to have descended.

Since it may reasonably be considered to be a violation of their civil rights to have their human ancestors related to, or called, anything other than what the U.S. Government recognizes as legally protected classes of persons, I respectfully submit that teachers and students in U.S. public school systems who publically volunteer to self-identify and self-classify themselves as members of any of the legally recognized and protected classes of persons established by law, may not be involuntarily labeled and classified as Homo sapiens in public schools without their written consent or the written consent of their parents or legal guardians.

Otherwise, if state governments continue to mandate and impose evolutionary neo-Darwinist beliefs and teachings about the human ancestry of the five legitimate racial catagories in which students and teachers have voluntarily chosen to identify and classify themselves as, then public school students and teachers have every right to sue the state for civil rights violations and a redress of racial and ancestral grievances.

Alan F. Alford #fundie bibliotecapleyades.net

WHERE did we come from?
Are we the product of a Divine Creation?
Did we evolve through natural selection?
Or is there another possible answer?


Introduction

In November 1859, Charles Darwin published a most dangerous idea - that all living things had evolved through a process of natural selection. Although there was almost no mention of mankind in Darwin’s treatise, the implications were unavoidable and led to a more radical change in human self-perception than anything before it in recorded history. In one blow, Darwin had relegated us from divinely-created beings to apes - the culmination of evolution by the impersonal mechanism of natural selection.

But are the scientists right in applying the theory of evolution to the strange two-legged hominid known as ‘man’? Charles Darwin himself was strangely quiet on this point but his co-discoverer Alfred Wallace was less reluctant to express his views. Wallace himself was adamant that ‘some intelligent power has guided or determined the development of man.’

One hundred years of science have failed to prove Alfred Wallace wrong. Anthropologists have failed miserably to produce fossil evidence of man’s ‘missing link’ with the apes and there has been a growing recognition of the complexity of organs such as the human brain.

Such are the problems with the application of Darwinism to mankind that Stephen Jay Gould - America’s evolutionist laureate - has described human evolution as an ‘awesome improbability’.


In Search of the Missing Link

Speciation - the separation of one species into two different species - is defined as the point where two groups within the same species are no longer able to inter-breed. The British scientist Richard Dawkins has described the separation quite poetically as ‘the long goodbye’.

The search for the missing link between man and the apes is the search for the earliest hominid - the upright, bipedal ape who waved ‘a long goodbye’ to his four-legged friends.

I will now attempt to briefly summarize what is known about human evolution.

According to the experts, the rivers of human genes and chimpanzee genes split from a common ancestral source some time between 5 and 7 million years ago, whilst the river of gorilla genes is generally thought to have branched off slightly earlier. In order for this speciation to occur, three populations of common ape ancestors (the future gorillas, chimpanzees and hominids) had to become geographically separated and thereafter subject to genetic drift, influenced by their different environments.

The search for the missing link has turned up a number of fossil contenders, dating from around 4 million years ago, but the picture remains very incomplete and the sample size is too small to draw any statistically valid conclusions. There are, however, three contenders for the prize of the first fully bipedal hominid, all discovered in the East African Rift valley which slashes through Ethiopia, Kenya and Tanzania.

The first contender, discovered in the Afar province of Ethiopia in 1974, is named Lucy, although her more scientific name is Australopithecus Afarensis. Lucy is estimated to have lived between 3.6-3.2 million years ago. Unfortunately her skeleton was only 40 per cent complete and this has resulted in controversy regarding whether she was a true biped and whether in fact ‘she’ might even have been a ‘he’.

The second contender is Australopithecus Ramidus, a 4.4 million year old pygmy chimpanzee-like creature, discovered at Aramis in Ethiopia by Professor Timothy White in 1994. Despite a 70 per cent complete skeleton, it has again not been possible to prove categorically whether it had two or four legs.

The third contender, dated between 4.1-3.9 million years old, is the Australopithecus Anamensis, discovered at Lake Turkana in Kenya by Dr Meave Leakey in August 1995. A shinbone from Anamensis has been used to back up the claim that it walked on two feet.

The evidence of our oldest ancestors is confusing because they do not seem to be closely related to each other. Furthermore, the inexplicable lack of fossil evidence for the preceding 10 million years has made it impossible to confirm the exact separation date of these early hominids from the four-legged apes. It is also important to emphasize that many of these finds have skulls more like chimpanzees than men.

They may be the first apes that walked but, as of 4 million years ago, we are still a long way from anything that looked even remotely human.

Moving forward in time, we find evidence of several types of early man which are equally confusing. We have the 1.8 million year old appropriately named Robustus, the 2.5 million year old and more lightly built Africanus, and the 1.5 to 2 million year old Advanced Australopithecus. The latter, as the name suggests, is more man-like than the others and is sometimes referred to as ‘near-man’ or Homo habilis (‘handy man’). It is generally agreed that Homo habilis was the first truly man-like being which could walk efficiently and use very rough stone tools. The fossil evidence does not reveal whether rudimentary speech had developed at this stage.

Around 1.5 million years ago Homo erectus appeared on the scene. This hominid had a considerably larger brain-box (cranium) than its predecessors and started to design and use more sophisticated stone tools.

A wide spread of fossils indicates that Homo erectus groups left Africa and spread across China, Australasia and Europe between 1,000,000-700,000 years ago but, for unknown reasons, disappeared altogether around 300,000-200,000 years ago. There is little doubt, by a process of elimination, that this is the line from which Homo sapiens descended.

The missing link, however, remains a mystery. In 1995, The Sunday Times summarized the evolutionary evidence as follows:
The scientists themselves are confused. A series of recent discoveries has forced them to tear up the simplistic charts on which they blithely used to draw linkages... the classic family tree delineating man’s descent from the apes, familiar to us at school, has given way to the concept of genetic islands. The bridgework between them is anyone’s guess.
As to the various contenders speculated as mankind’s ancestor, The Sunday Times stated:
Their relationships to one another remain clouded in mystery and nobody has conclusively identified any of them as the early hominid that gave rise to Homo sapiens.
In summary, the evidence discovered to date is so sparse that a few more sensational finds will still leave the scientists clutching at straws.

Consequently mankind’s evolutionary history is likely to remain shrouded in mystery for the foreseeable future.


The Miracle of Man

Today, four out of ten Americans find it difficult to believe that humans are related to the apes. Why is this so? Compare yourself to a chimpanzee. Man is intelligent, naked and highly sexual - a species apart from his alleged primate relatives.

This may be an intuitive observation but it is actually supported by scientific study. In 1911, the anthropologist Sir Arthur Keith listed the anatomical characteristics peculiar to each of the primate species, calling them ‘generic characters’ which set each apart from the others. His results were as follows: gorilla 75; chimpanzee 109; orangutan 113; gibbon 116; man 312. Keith thus showed scientifically that mankind was nearly three times more distinctive than any other ape.

Another scientist to take this approach was the British zoologist Desmond Morris. In his book, The Naked Ape, Desmond Morris highlighted the amazing mystery of mankind’s ‘missing hair’:
Functionally, we are stark naked and our skin is fully exposed to the outside world. This state of affairs still has to be explained, regardless of how many tiny hairs we can count under a magnifying lens.
Desmond Morris contrasted Homo sapiens with 4,237 species of mammals, the vast majority of which were hairy or partly haired. The only non-hairy species were those which lived underground (and thus kept warm without hair), species which were aquatic (and benefited from streamlining), and armoured species such as the armadillo (where hair would clearly be superfluous). Morris commented:
The naked ape [man] stands alone, marked off by his nudity from all the thousands of hairy, shaggy or furry land-dwelling mammalian species... if the hair has to go, then clearly there must be a powerful reason for abolishing it.
Darwinism has yet to produce a satisfactory answer as to how and why man lost his hair. Many imaginative theories have been suggested, but so far no-one has come up with a really acceptable explanation. The one conclusion that can perhaps be drawn, based on the principle of gradiented change, is that man spent a long time evolving, either in a very hot environment or in water.

Another unique feature of mankind may provide us with a clue to the loss of body hair. That feature is sexuality. The subject was covered in juicy detail by Desmond Morris, who highlighted unique human features such as extended foreplay, extended copulation and the orgasm. One particular anomaly is that the human female is always ‘in heat’, yet she can only conceive for a few days each month.

As another scientist, Jared Diamond, has pointed out, this is an evolutionary enigma that cannot be explained by natural selection:
The most hotly debated problem in the evolution of human reproduction is to explain why we nevertheless ended up with concealed ovulation, and what good all our mistimed copulations do us.
Many scientists have commented also on the anomaly of the male penis, which is by far the largest erect penis of any living primate.

The geneticist Steve Jones has noted it as a mystery which is ‘unanswered by science’, a point which is echoed by Jared Diamond:
... we descend to a glaring failure: the inability of twentieth-century science to formulate an adequate Theory of Penis Length... astonishing as it seems, important functions of the human penis remain obscure.
Desmond Morris described man as ‘the sexiest primate alive’, but why did evolution grant us such a bountiful gift? The whole human body seems to be perfectly designed for sexual excitement and pair bonding.

Morris saw elements of this plan in the enlarged breasts of the female, the sensitive ear lobes and lips, and a vaginal angle that encouraged intimate face to face copulation. He also highlighted our abundance of scent-producing glands, our unique facial mobility and our unique ability to produce copious tears - all features which strengthened the exclusive emotional pair-bonding between male and female.

This grand design could not be imagined unless humans also lost their shaggy coat of hair and so it might seem that the mystery of the missing hair is solved. Unfortunately, it is not that simple, for evolution does not set about achieving grand designs. The Darwinists are strangely silent on what incremental steps were involved, but however it happened it should have taken a long, long time.

There are three other interesting anomalies of ‘the naked ape’ which are also worthy of note.
The first is the appalling ineptitude of the human skin to repair itself. In the context of a move to the open savanna, where bipedal man became a vulnerable target, and in the context of a gradual loss of protective hair, it seems inconceivable that the human skin should have become so fragile relative to our primate cousins.

The second anomaly is the unique lack of penis bone in the male. This is in complete contrast to other mammals, which use the penis bone to copulate at short notice. The deselection of this vital bone would have jeopardized the existence of the human species unless it took place against the background of a long and peaceful environment.

The third anomaly is our eating habits. Whereas most animals will swallow their food instantaneously, we take the luxury of six whole seconds to transport our food from mouth to stomach. This again suggests a long period of peaceful evolution.
The question which arises is where this long and peaceful evolution is supposed to have taken place, because it certainly does not fit the scenario which is presented for Homo sapiens.

Nor have Darwinists explained adequately how the major changes in human anatomy were achieved in a time frame of only 6 million years...


The Mystery of the Human Brain

The greatest mystery of Homo sapiens is its incredible brain.

During the last fifteen years, scientists have used new imaging technologies (such as positron-emission tomography) to discover more about the human brain than ever before. The full extent of the complexity of its billions of cells has thus become more and more apparent. In addition to the brain’s physical complexity, its performance knows no bounds - mathematics and art, abstract thought and conceptualization and, above all, moral conscience and self-awareness.

Whilst many of the human brain’s secrets remain shrouded in mystery, enough has been revealed for National Geographic to have boldly described it as ’the most complex object in the known universe’.

Evolutionists see the brain as nothing more than a set of algorithms, but they are forced to admit that it is so complex and unique that there is no chance of reverse engineering the evolutionary process that created it.

The eminent scientist Roger Penrose, for example, commented:
I am a strong believer in the power of natural selection. But I do not see how natural selection, in itself, can evolve algorithms which could have the kind of conscious judgments of the validity of other algorithms that we seem to have.
What does the fossil record tell us about our evolving brain capabilities? The data varies considerably and must be treated with care (since the sample sizes are limited), but the following is a rough guide.

The early hominid Afarensis had around 500cc and Habilis/Australopithecus had around 700cc. Whilst it is by no means certain that one evolved from the other, it is possible to see in these figures the evolutionary effects over two million years of the hominid’s new environment.

As we move forward in time to 1.5 million years ago, we find a sudden leap in the cranial capacity of Homo erectus to around 900-1000cc. If we assume, as most anthropologists do, that this was accompanied by an increase in intelligence, it represents a most unlikely macromutation. Alternatively, we might explain this anomaly by viewing erectus as a separate species whose ancestors have not yet been found due to the poor fossil records.

Finally, after surviving 1.2 to 1.3 million years without any apparent change, and having successfully spread out of Africa to China, Australasia and Europe, something extraordinary happened to the Homo erectus hominid. Perhaps due to climatic changes, his population began to dwindle until he eventually died out. And yet, while most Homo erectus were dying, one managed to suddenly transform itself into Homo sapiens , with a vast increase in cranial capacity from 950cc to 1450cc.

Human evolution thus appears like an hourglass, with a narrowing population of Homo erectus leading to possibly one single mutant, whose improved genes emerged into a new era of unprecedented progress. The transformation from failure to success is startling. It is widely accepted that we are the descendants of Homo erectus (who else was there to descend from?) but the sudden changeover defies all known laws of evolution. Hence Stephen Jay Gould’s comment about the ’awesome improbability of human evolution’.

Why has Homo sapiens developed intelligence and self-awareness whilst his ape cousins have spent the last 6 million years in evolutionary stagnation? Why has no other creature in the animal kingdom developed an advanced level of intelligence?

Rayburne Winsor #fundie facebook.com

Rayburne Winsor: First of all, you must distinguish between operational or experimental science, which can be observed, tested and repeated in a laboratory, from historical or Origins science which cannot. Even evolutionists admit hat. Neither biblical creation nor "goo-to-you, molecules to man" evolution can be proven. The Tree of life (GTE or Thesis of Common Ancestry) is just an unproven hypothesis at best. What evolutionists conveniently do is extrapolate "change in gene frequency over time" or "descent with modification" and rapid speciation (which creationists have always believed to be compatible with biblical creation) as evidence for vertical (primitive to complex) change that increases the genetic information content in the genome. It is not. All alleged "proofs" of "evolution in action" today do not show that functional new information is added to genes; rather, they involve sorting and/or loss of genetic information. Let us examine the fossil record. After, 150 years after Darwin and alleged millions of years of gradual evolution-by-creeps [too slow to see], evolution-by-peaks [too fast to see] and evolution-by-freaks (genetic mutations still harmful-produces nothing new by way of transmutations: snails remain snails, clams clams, trilobites trilobites, jellyfish jellyfish, birds birds, fish fish, apes apes, man man) , we have only a few highly disputed intermediate or so-called transitional fossils that could cover a billiard table and are highly disputed even among evolutionists themselves.

What scientists find in the fossil record are completely formed and intact fossils of all life-forms without a hint of evolutionary ancestors or "transitional" fossils in the geological strata beneath them (evidence for biblical creation). And what do we have in the so-called hierarchy of human evolutionary ancestors that you see neatly and orderly arranged in some museum? You have nothing more than illustrations and drawings like you see in textbooks, or plaster of Paris reconstructions of candidates (supposedly intermediate or transitional) out of the wild imagination of some artist paid to tell the evolutionary story? All you are seeing in museums are STORIES ABOUT EVIDENCE, not actual material evidence of bones and in-between stages of evolutionary development. Detailed analysis of a number of various "ape-man" candidates shows that they are either fully ape-like or fully human, not transitional or even mosaic. Australopithecines were not ancestral to modern man, and Lucy was a knuckle-walker . Homo habilis is a "taxonomic wastebin". Homo erectus was a variety of Homo sapiens (Humans), with overlapping cranial capacity and morphology and even seafaring ability. Homo erectus, including Java Man, was just a post-Babel variety of Homo sapiens (modern man), and had seafaring ability. Some of the ape-man candidates are based on very fragmentary remains such as Ardipithecus and Orrorin. Artists are told to make their drawings look "more transitional"; there is plenty of leeway since skin, hair, lips and noses are not fossilized.


David Murray: abiogenesis is not evolution, open a grade school level science book as you are not smarter than a fifth grader. Then learn how to use google
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_transitional_fossils
List of transitional fossils - Wikipedia


Rayburne Winsor This is not science; it is science fiction. You have nothing more than illustrations and drawings like you see in textbooks, or plaster of Paris reconstructions of candidates (supposedly intermediate or transitional) out of the wild imagination of some artist paid to tell the evolutionary story? All you are seeing in museums are STORIES ABOUT EVIDENCE, not actual material evidence of bones and in-between stages of evolutionary development. Detailed analysis of a number of various "ape-man" candidates shows that they are either fully ape-like or fully human, not transitional or even mosaic. Australopithecines were not ancestral to modern man, and Lucy was a knuckle-walker . Homo habilis is a "taxonomic wastebin". Homo erectus was a variety of Homo sapiens (Humans), with overlapping cranial capacity and morphology and even seafaring ability. Homo erectus, including Java Man, was just a post-Babel variety of Homo sapiens (modern man), and had seafaring ability. Some of the ape-man candidates are based on very fragmentary remains such as Ardipithecus and Orrorin. Artists are told to make their drawings look "more transitional"; there is plenty of leeway since skin, hair, lips and noses are not fossilized.

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Rayburne Winsor: I have heard the same old crap during the last 40 years of discussing this topic with atheists, science students and skeptics. Most of which is highly speculative in nature and not surprisingly based on evolutionary assumptions and predictions (nothing ew). But what real evidence, if any, do they have. As I said, a few supposedly “transitional” fossils that even evolutionists highly dispute among themselves.
Charles Oxnard, formerly professor of Anatomy and biological Sciences at the University of Southern California and Professor of Human Anatomy and Human Biology , University of Western Australia, showed that the big toe of the famous “Lucy” stuck out as in chimpanzees.

Also, Dr. Fred Spoor, Professor of Evolutionary Anatomy at University College London, UK , and joint editor of the Journal of Human Evolution , performed CAT scans of australopithecine inner ear canals , the organs of posture and balance. This showed that they did not walk habitually upright (See Spoor, F, Wood, B., and Zonneveld, F., Implications of early hominid morphology for evolution of human bipedal locomotion, Nature 369 (6482):645-648, 1994). This is all contrary to Dawkins’ claim that Lucy “walked upright on her hind legs...on two feet which were pretty much like ours although its brain was the size of a chimpanzee. Indeed, evidence now suggests that Lucy had wrist-locking abilities “classic for knuckle walkers” which is hardly consistent with Dawkins claim that ucy walked upright like we do (Stokstad, E., Hominid ancestors may have knuckle walked, Science 287 (5461) :2131, 2000, citing the first author of Richmond, B. G. and Strait, D.S. , Evidence that humans evolved from a knuckle walking ancestor , Nature 404 (6776):382, 2000). Museums once featured Australopithecus africanus as an ancestor to humans---A. Africanus includes “Mrs Ples” (now thought to be small “Mrs Ples”) and the Taung child (Dawkins, The Greatest Show on Earth, p.189-193) . Donald Johanson , the discoverer of “Lucy” , places Australopithecus africanus in a side-branch not leading to man (Johanson, D. C. and White T.D. , A Systematic Assessment of Early African Hominids , Science 203:321-330, 1979) and many museums have now demoted this once certain human ancestor to a non-ancestor.

Time magazine reported on a specimen called Ardipithecus ramidus kadabba, dated between 5.6 and 5.8 million years old. Time claimed that this new specimen was already walking upright , at (what they claim was ) the dawn of evolution. But how clear is this really> Time reports the opinion of the discoverer of “Lucy”, Donald Johanson : “Beyond that, he’s dubious about categorizing the 5.2 million year old toe bone (Ardipithecus) with the rest of the fossils : not only is it separated in time by several hundred thousand years, but it was also found some 10 miles from the rest (Lemonick, M.D. and Dorfman, A., One Giant Step for Mankind, Time magazine cover story, 23 July 2001). Note that this toe was the major “evidence” for uprightness, yet, at being found 10 miles away , it boggles the mind how it could be regarded as part of the same specimen. As one researcher put it regarding the fossils and human evolution, “Fossils are fickle. Bones will sing any song you want to hear” ( Shreeve, J., Argument over a woman, Discover 11 (8):58, 1990).

When the various fossils are analyzed in depth, they turn out not to be transitional or even mosaic. That is my last comment. I don't really care what you come back with. You believe what you want. You seem to enjoy calling me dishonest and a liar, but David the truth is you would not know the truth if it was standing right in front of you. I will leave it to the readers to decide who is honest and truthful based on real evidence and scientific research, for which I gave clear references, mostly from evolutionary journals and publications, not straw dummy arguments without evidence to support it. Of course, I know you will deny that too as dishonest and a lie. Right?
Honestly, I don't feel sorry for guys like you who are brainwashed by the fairy tale for grown-ups (Evolution) but the truth is, as both you and I know, you do not want to know the truth, just promote your evolutionary faith that is nothing more than a philosophical justification for not wanting to believe unbelief in a Creator/God. It is not rocket science, David, as I hope and pray you find out before you exit this life on earth (and you will).

For example, Pakicetus (whale from Pakistan) was first drawn as an aquatic creature based on a few skull bones and teeth (Gingerich, P.D., et al., Science 220 (4595): 403-406, 22 April 1983). Its discoverer Philip Gingerich proclaimed it to be perfectly intermediate in time and in its morphology, a missing link between earlier land mammals and later, full-fledged whales (Gingerich , P.D., J. Geology. Educ 31:140-144, 1983. Since a few scraps of bone were interpreted in an evolutionary framework, it is not surprising that they were thought to be a “missing link”.

However, when the rest of the skeleton was found, it was realized to be a fast-running land creature (then drawn by the same artist as the diagram in Dawkins book (see Thewissen, J. G. M., et al., Skeletons of terrestial cetaceans and the relationship of whales to artiodactyls, Nature 413: 277-281, 20 Sept. 2001; and Pakicetus...eight years on. Illustration: Carl Buell www.neoucom.edu/Depts.Anat/Pakicetid.html ).

This is hardly the only example of evolutionists misleading the public , exaggerating the evidence from a few scraps of bone. The moral of the story, as one evolutionist put it, is:”Fossils are fickle. Bones will sing any song you want to hear (Shreeve, J. Argument over a woman, Discover 11 (8):58, 1990 (in reference to human evolution).

Rick Potvin #conspiracy rickpotvin.com

How to find a Neanderthal woman.

Neanderthal type women can be found in many Jewish establishments, for Judaism is the preferred "religion" of the Neanderthal hybrid women. Once at a Jewish establishment, observe foreheads. Compare the foreheads of the Neanderthal with the Homo sapien on the left. The more you observe, the better you will become. Soon, you will find it easy to spot them.

Jewish women carry the gene for mitochondria that Neanderthals prefer, as part of their ongoing eugenics and species war program. Homo Sapiens might be able to subvert the attempted takeover of their ancient species by watering down their genes, so to speak, with Homo Sapien genes. Finding a Jewish girlfriend, marrying her, and having her children would be one way to do this.

The only problem I personally see with this line of thought is that the next ice age is returning rapidly. The Neanderthals have survived several ice ages whereas the Homo Sapien came out of the last ice age only 30,000 years ago, in the second half of that period. In effect, the Neanderthal Hybrid Jew is more suited to the 100,000 survival instincts needed for an ice age. Given technology today, however, it's quite possible that Homo Sapiens can prepare for it too and do better than Neanerthal ever did. That's actually the plan I'm banking on. Fighting with Jews all the time, however, makes it annoying and almost impossible to prepare. They smart and they know how to do psychological warfare. I'm one of the few homo Sapiens onto their game.

12345 #fundie listverse.com

[Posted in an article listing 10 species related to the evolution of hominids]

I'm disgusted how dumb people are. A guy takes an actual progression of primate bones that you can witness changes in and sticks a homo-sapiens skeleton at the end which looks 100% different than any other skeleton in the line up, and you people don't even think to ask a single question? If humans evolved along side of these primates their wouldn't be any of our ancestors near the primates who would have fled away from being hunted by man. Plus old stories of humans claim we had to live underground. If this is true looking for our ancestors in a primate burial ground above ground in the wrong part of the world, is an obvious plight to control knowledge of history. This is why I laugh every time a scientist speaks about Atlantis. So called scientist have been looking for Atlantis, not where documents and legends say, but where Edgar Casey, a psychic, says it should be??? Scientist could have stuck Buzz Light Year at the end of the evolutionary scale and who would question it? Not any of you obviously. I'm so sick of people hiding behind science like a religion when they know 0 about it. Science is not a belief system it is a methodology of proving things false or true. Just because something escapes being proven wrong it does not mean it is true. And the same way if something has proven true so far it doesn't mean it is truth it just means humans don't understand how to test for truth. If they do I would love to see an example. No what science does is it takes situations that it already knows the outcome of and tests it. Einstein had an idea, relativity and he tested it and got results. Does anybody see the hypocrisy in that? Testing things you already know the outcome of? That would be like a scientist testing prayer knowing it won't work, and then rather than telling you prayer don't work they tell you it is proof that god doesn't exist. I'm using this example so you can see how they spin things. Testing for prayer has 0 to do with testing for god yet I have seen countless drooling science worshipers who think this study should get funding. Humans are 100's of thousands of years old and if our ancestors burned their corpses before they discovered mummification good luck sifting through dirt and ash to find the truth. Why do we have to be duped? We don't but everyone wants to buy BS. Why can't any of you realize we don't have the answers and we probably never will? Just think what a different world we would live in if people didn't flock to BS and every con man who says I have the answer? Look at primates and look at the length of their arms? Why are their arms longer that any homo-sapiens? Why are the arms missing or not shown on the evolution chart? Notice how they stick primate heads on human looking bodies on every history special, hmmm, but primates bodies are totally different and again their arms? Somebody really wants to convince you they know it all and they won because your tiny ego amongst other things just wants to pretend its better than everyone else for repeating lies. What do I know I was in science classes at Regis University in the 5th grade and was teaching elementary kids science by the time I was in middle school for a program called SIP. But all you bloggers who think you found a way to trash religion by repeating everything science says with out proof, you my friends are a new religion that will be used for dumbing down the population and new atrocities against your fellow man based on beliefs that have no foundation in reality. Theories.

john crawford #fundie christianforums.com

I got this idea while posting on the "Hobbit" thread and thought it worthwhile to scientifically test and develop.

Why let English-speaking paleoanthropologists arbitrarily label individual members of the human race with Latin terms such as Homo sapiens, Homo heidlebergensis, Homo erectus and Homo floresiensis when we can do that for ourselves?

I propose to call all living members of the human race Human speciens and all human fossils Human speciensis. That way, neo-Darwinist race theorists won't be able to associate any human fossils in Africa with African ape look-alikes.

Of course, neo-Darwinists can still call themselves Homo sapiens as long as they stop Latinizing our human ancestors as Homo this and Homo that.

ProjectPoem #conspiracy reddit.com

It all begins where 'the holy book' ends. Thus the end is really the beginning. And the beginning is really the end. This is where things really go wonky.
Have you watched 'Plato's Allegory of The Cave'?
There is a wide world of belief out there. But there is only one truth. It is said to be 7 billion Homo Sapiens on the planet, but there is only one Human Race. There is only one Reality we all exist in, and only one History that has established our communal 'Reality'. This history is shared by all Homo Sapiens. That is what makes it 'communal'. This history is the reason why Human Beings exist today. There are certainly different historical paths for each culture that is located in different parts of the world, but each story starts in exactly the same place.
There is one particular section of history that is peculiar to us 'Homo Sapiens' or 'Hued Man' as we are also called. It is absolute, undeniable proof that 'aliens' do exist. It is proof that 'God' exists, and, in fact, is very concerned with the affairs of us human beings. This proof that exists is ancient, historical, and extant. More important than the fact that this proof currently exists is the reality of what this 'proof' actually is. It is a people. The People once called 'Hebrews'. The only reason these people once called 'The Hebrews' are even known to the civilizations of modern man is because that word only exists in a document the Ancient Greeks referred to as 'Genesis', or 'Origins', but was know to The Hebrews as 'Bereshit' and is now contained in a book called 'The Bible'.
It is the first book of the Roman Catholic 'Canon'; the first book of the Judaic 'Torah' or Greek 'Pentateuch', and it is the first book of the Protestant Christian 'Holy Bible'. It is also a historical document specifically related to the people called 'The Hebrews' and the oldest copies of it are about 3000 years old. It is not the fact that three separate religions use this document as the foundation for their faith and belief in 'God', but the age of the document, its historical accuracy, and the fact that the Hebrew People still exist is what gives it its importance.
But as an Archeological document and not a religious one. This is why the religious aspects are not as relevant as the historical aspects that mark the actual presence of the Hebrew People from Ancient Times until now. To put it more bluntly: The existence of this 'Hebrew People' is proof of the ancient interaction between human beings and an advanced Alien Race who call themselves 'The Annunaki', and more to the point, the Hebrew People validate and substantiate this exact history as it is related in detail in the most ancient document on earth: The Sumerian Tablets. Outside of the Sumerian Tablets, only one other document exists that has similar content, but it is depicted as 'religious' in most modern circles. That book is the aforementioned document best known as 'Genesis', but it should be known as the 'Genos (Offspring) of Isis'.
Now as unorthodox as it might seem the Sumerian Tablets tell us 'Aliens' (forgive the negative connotation) who called themselves 'The Annunaki' genetically modified 'Homo Neanderthalensis' into 'Homo Sapiens' or 'Wise Man'. They then (Let Us) proceeded to teach us-their new 'creation'-how to speak, how to read, how to write, how to build and how to live so they could use us to make the mining of gold on Earth 'easier'. The 'proof' of this fact is found in the area now corresponding to modern-day Iraq, the northeastern section of Syria and to a much lesser extent southeastern Turkey, smaller parts of southwestern Iran and Kuwait. Which is why 'civilization' popped up so suddenly in Ancient Sumer/Mesopotamia.
A city in Sumer, called in the Hebrew Documents 'Ur', is where the patriarch of the Hebrew People 'Abraham' is said to have come from, shortly after the time one of The Annunaki named Marduk (The Dragon) went rogue and declared himself 'God' and began using humans worshipers to fulfill his desires rather than use them to mine gold as instructed to send back to their home planet of Nibiru. The 1/3 of the Stars of Heaven were his Igigi: Over 200 strong. Marduk was a leader of an Army, also called The Nephilim because they are the ones who married human females, impregnated them and gave rise to the Giants 'in those days'.
In defiance of the Annunaki Leader Enlil, Ea Enki wrote the 'Enuma Elish' (Sumerian Tablets) and the Daughter of Anu 'Innana' singled out the one then named 'Abram' and directed him away from Sumer, away from Ur, away from his family and familiar life in Mesopotamia, to the home base of Her Brother Ea Enki, in Africa. A place almost everyone in a first world country is familiar with: Where a second and almost equally unprecedented civilization sprung up, in modern day Egypt.
Then the Exodus happens approximately 400 years later, bringing the descendants of Abraham, now a great number, out of Egypt to create a nation/race (Genos) called 'Israel', led by one they called 'prophet', who was given (or copied from) a set of Stone (Sumerian) Tablets by the same Annunaki who called out to Abram.
Tablets to be placed in an Ark as a Covenant. Sound familiar?
They were more than likely a copy of The Sumerian Tablets, first written by the Annunaki named 'Enki' who was called "Ea" (Lord) of (Enki) Earth. It took this Prophet, best known as Moses, 40 days and nights to copy these tablets, so there is little logical chance they were simply 'ten commandments'. A set of the Sumerian Tablets were found in Mesopotamia, in-of all places-a temple of Innana, the same Annunaki mentioned by name in the Sumerian Tablets. The same Innana who, as the Sumerian Records indicate, 'took a special interest in a certain people from among the humans'. Those people who are now called 'The Hebrews'.
This is the same Annunaki called 'Eloah' (Goddess) by the Ancient Hebrews, as is historically verified in the book of Job, written thousands of years ago. It is this same Annunaki who ordered and established the Ancient Hebrew nation 'Israel', which is now defunct, having been scattered to the winds sometime around 70 A.D. by Titus, a General of the Roman Empire. The modern day nation/state of (Zionist) Israel is not comprised of the original Hebrews, and everyone, at the top, knows this. But 'they' also know that you, the general population, do not know this, and they have thus far successfully kept it that way.
Anyone who tries to teach the world the truth about how 'The Jews are not 'Hebrew' and gives attempts to give facts is labeled a crackpot, an anti-Semite or some other derogatory epithet that draws the eyes away from the truth and entices the mind to disregard what has been said.
As a result, there is yet to be a correct interpretation of the identity of 'the Woman of the Apocalypse'. Mostly because the truth is impossible to believe. You, whoever you believe yourself to be, are reading this right now for one reason and one reason alone: Innana, whom the Ancient Hebrew called 'Eloah'.
She was known as one of the 'Great Ones' or 'Elohiym', or by the name most would be unfamiliar with: The Annunaki. The story began with Abram, when El(oah) Shaddai (Many Breasted God(dess)) called out to him and said she would make a Nation (Genos) of him. It would come to be known as 'Israel'. Peopled by 12 Tribes (the 12 stars in the Woman's Crown). The 'son' She named 'Yisreal'.
She called these people 'Hebrew' because of the situation they would have to 'go/pass/transition' through before all of the wrongs caused by Marduk could be made right. That is why the meaning of the 'hebrew' word is so important. Then you can understand what Innana was doing and why She was doing it: To Provide Proof and 'a way' back to The Truth, back to the beginning, before everything went to 'hell'.
Marduk, as the Dragon, was grounded to Earth by having his capability of flight destroyed. Parts of this 'war in heaven' are written about in the Hindi 'Upanishads'. The part played by 'Michael' was Enlil's son. Marduk was Enki's son. After the destruction of Marduk and the Igigi's ships and home base by powerful weapons, the Annunaki abandoned Earth. The weapons they used to destroy Marduk's flight had an unexpected effect that killed Annunkai and Earthling alike: Radiation.
In the meantime, our surviving human ancestors were left at the mercy of Marduk and his Igigi. Innana still had her ship (clothed with the Sun) and fled to the Moon (Moon under her feet), where she remained out of reach of Marduk. The 'time' allotted to Marduk as 'ruler over Earth' and the time that Innana had to hide from him are about the same: Approximately 1 'Shar' (circuit of Nibiru around the Sun) or about 3 thousand to thirty-five hundred Earth years.
The water poured from the mouth of the serpent/dragon/devil was misinformation to obscure and erase the evidence of Innana's presence and activities in human history. To fool human beings into thinking he Marduk/Ra/Zeus/Etc was the defacto 'God' of Earth and all human beings. Rather than the spiritual truth: All Living Beings Are Divines Ones; i.e. 'Gods'.
Marduk is 'The Fallen One' who 'deceives the whole world', is called 'Devil' and 'Satan', a word that only means 'adversary', and surely he is the adversary of man. This is the secret that has been kept hidden. This is the truth that will make you free.
We-Earthlings Collectively-still have to forgive him.
The time has come. Now you know The Truth. Now you can be freed.
Reject it or accept it.
All of this is related to us in the Sumerian Tablets. You can learn to read cuneiform or read the translations by those who already know how. The choice is up to you. I have no need to deceive, but you have a need to know.
The Truth Stands On Its Own.
But if you have any questions I am willing and able to answer them.
The P.O.E.M or Peace On Earth Movement Facebook page. : https://www.facebook.com/pages/POEM-Peace-On-Earth-Movement/588726381233293

Tiwaz #racist fr.urbandictionary.com

miscegenophilia
–noun Psychiatry.
1. A sexual attraction to different human subspecies or races.
2. Sexual desire in a human being for members of a different human subspecies or race.
3. The act or fantasy on the part of a human being of engaging in sexual activity with members of a different human subspecies or race.

One affected with miscegenophilia is called a miscegenophile.

Miscegenophilia is frequently accompanied by other sexual deviancies in various degrees, such as ephebophilia and zoophilia. In countries where acting upon these deviancies is legally prohibited or socially scorned, miscegenation frequently serves as a permitted substitute for the satisfaction of ephebophiliac or zoophiliac desires.

Male Europoid (homo sapiens europaeus) and Congoid (homo sapiens afer) miscegenophiles frequently point out that they are attracted by the neoteny or paedomorphy of Mongoloid (homo sapiens mongolicus) women whose morphology is more reminiscent of Europoid or Congoid teenagers than of mature Europoid or Congoid women. Servility and submissiveness of the female play an important role.

Similarly, Europoid and Mongoloid females attracted to Congoid males often attribute their attraction to factors caused by the racial distance: exoticness, "the forces of nature," being desired as an object of lust, and tasting the forbidden fruits of "the beast." Sexual domination by the male plays an important role.
Jean: Miscegenophilia can be evoked by the absence of partners of the same subspecies. That's how the population of Cape coloreds came into existence.
Paul: The same way zoophilia can be created by the absence of human partners?
Jean: In some people. I reckon.

The Truth #racist smartpunters.com

Yes, you guessed it, niggers are a global plague to civilized societies. There's no mistaking it, while some above make wild claims that "red necks" are the low man, I offer the following observations of the poor class:

1.) Poor "white trash" at least own their shelter - the much maligned trailer. Unlike the wild urban monkey, that calls Public housing projects (aka zoo cage) home.

2.) Poor white people hold family structure - unlike blacks, who don't know the identity of their father from conception, and have multiple unknown siblings from said unknown silverback males.

3.) Poor white people work. Blacks? Do I really need to explain.

4.) Poor white people commit demonstrably less crime than do blacks.

5.) Refer to 1 - Poor white people are responsible. That is, they don't bring a dozen hungry mouths into this world so that Uncle Sam can feed them.

6.) White people are homo-sapiens. Blacks are pseudo-sapiens. (For more about why blacks are scientifically proven to be inferior, see my previous post under "Gimme dat money...from July 2009).

I encourage everyone to visit the department of justice online to read up on crime statistics (quick, before Nigger-in-charge decides to pull it down). Even a quick search on wikipedia regarding "race and intelligence" will surely open some eyes (and don't forget to read the references). Search google scholar papers to read university research findings on race and IQ. Or, turn a blind eye, continue to think that we're all equal, and sleep through life.

Crush the liberal agenda with raw facts. Open eyes to the truth.

- the Truth

jcrawford #fundie evolutionfairytale.com

I'm classifying myself and others like me as Neanderthal descendents rather than Homo sapiens, since I am Caucasian and not of African origins or descent, as neo-Darwinists claim Homo sapiens are.

Neo-Darwinists associate Homo sapiens with African monkey and ape ancestors. I associate myself and others like me with the Neanderthal descendents of Noah in order to be included in Christ's own ancestral genealogy.

Conspiracy Theories Archives #ufo #racist #conspiracy conspiracytheoriesarchives.com

Felines Extraterrestrials or Felinoids (Homo Felidis, Homo Felinis, Homo Felis) would be, together with the Carians, one of the two primary races of our universe and form with the Canids, the Humans and the Shapeshifter Aliens the dreaded "Superior Hierarchy".
They would come to us at the invitation of the 12 Founders of the Universe.
It seems that, before time, as we know it, began, 12 highly evolved souls known as "the Founders" decided to create a universe in which to put into practice their evolutionary game called "Universal Game" or "Integration of Polarities": a theory that would describe the purpose of our universe (which is just one of several existing in the multiverse) and consists of the integration of two opposites, Light and Darkness.
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During a subsequent phase of evolution, the felines who are great geneticists, brought their attention to that mammalian DNA and began a program of breeding and genetic improvement, creating humanoid-like mammalian breeds such as the Pleiadians, including a Pleiadian type known as Anunnaki, who respectively created the Syrians and the colored Homo Sapiens Sapiens, then all these types merged into the mixed terrestrial colony, that is, Homo Sapiens Sapiens. There were two lines, that of the more active and energetic mulatto red beings and that of the white beings, of a kinder and more introspective nature.
Both of these races took up residence in the planets around the Vega star in the Lyra constellation.

T-1000 #fundie answers.yahoo.com

Hypothetically speaking ......what if?
Adam was Homo erectus,then bang thousands of years later Eve was made with the likeness of a Neanderthal and their offspring were born either Neanderthal or Cro-Magnon (Homo sapiens sapiens) coz anthrolpological concensus is that the two were contemporaries.

Would explain our ante-deluvian ancestors with Noah and his family starting the global family tree afresh purely 'Homo sapien' about 30,000 years ago.

I am not saying it is so but couldn't it be possible that God did it that way?

john crawford #fundie christianforums.com

No, you are not Homo sapiens sapiens. Since you can't prove that you are, it remains a neo-Darwinist religious and racial assumption on your part. When you get some observable evidence of your being Homo sapiens sapiens which we all can see, please notify us.

In the meantime, you're just another ordinary human being, as far as I can tell.
Nothing special about you neo-Darwinists at all.

theantifeminist #sexist theantifeminist.com

I’ve read that the police are using surveillance cameras that are powerful enough see through curtains to track men they suspect of viewing illegal porn. Fairly soon, surveillance drones will be so ubiquitous and tiny that the state will be able to have anyone under watch 24 hours a day, even in their own homes. Darpa have already made drones that appear to be insects such as flys. They could also be watching you through the webcam on your computer.

This might seem far-fetched in relation to stopping men masturbating, but the point I’m making is the tech will enable it soon, so it’s no more far fetched than the idea of masturbation being criminalized is.

Didn’t one of the Tea Party femiservative hags actually propose making masturbation illegal?

John #racist amren.com

According to genetic research, supported by empirical DNA evidence, Negroids are positioned somewhere between Caucasoids and chimpanzees on the evolutionary scale, which explains a lot. I'm not joking at all. I'm completely serious.

The egalitarians routinely espouse that Caucasoids and Negroids only differ by 0.5% DNA. Well, the truth is that chimpanzees only differ from homo sapiens sapiens (humans) by just a little more; ~1.5% DNA. Other genetic studies have shown that Negroids are much more closely related to chimpanzees than Caucasoids. It's an established fact based on empirical evidence. Like I mentioned earlier, it's a fact that explains a lot.

A few years ago, Pluto was stripped of its status as a planet. In time, will Negroids be stripped of their status as homo sapiens sapiens? Doing so would correct many wrongs.

Please bear in mind that I am certainly not suggesting that Negroids be treated like animals. I personally believe that all living creatures should be treated with dignity and respect and subjected to abuse of any kind, but truthfully, they should be with their own kind, and we should be with our own kind. This social experiment has gone on for far too long, spanning far too many decades. This charade MUST end.

Ancestry of Man #crackpot #conspiracy #ufo ancestryofman.com

Human Exile – Contrary to popular misconception, humans did not evolve on Earth. Humans arrived here intentionally as the result of human exile. This world is a prison planet, and we are its inmates. We are aliens from outer space, prisoners on Earth, and everything about us provides the hard scientific proof needed to verify that. Humans were exiled to Earth for very good reasons.

Science has proven that hominoids (monkeys and apes) have lived on this planet for a very long time. However, science has also proven that our species, Homo Sapiens Sapiens (Cro-Magnon or Modern Man) have not. This is because human beings did not evolve on Earth, they were placed here. Earth was chosen for human exile to protect intergalatic society.

The Human Species Is Not From Earth
If life exists on Earth, it must also exist on other worlds.

It is very probable that the ‘source’ of life did not disperse throughout the universe selectively. Therefore, if life exists on Earth, it must also exist on other worlds. The majority of alien life will likely share characteristics with life forms found on Earth. The same creatures that have roamed this planet, and still do, are sure to exist on other planets with similar climatic and environmental conditions.

In fact, our species was taken from planets similar to Earth. Cro-Magnoids (homos sapien sapiens), our species, did not evolve in this star system. And there is no hard scientific evidence to prove that humans evolved on Earth anywhere in the world. According to genealogy, the origin of man is entirely extraterrestrial.

The theory of human exile states Earth is a prison planet, created when our ancestors were imprisoned on Earth approximately 50-60,000 years ago. The reason was to isolate the intergalactic spread of mental illness, crime and murder. The same criminal behavior and mental illness that humans still exhibit today.

Bruce Eldine Morton #conspiracy amazon.com

(Description of Bruce Eldine Morton's book "Two Human Species Exist: Their Hybrids Are Dylsexics, Homosexuals, Pedophiles, and Schizophrenics")

Two human species have long existed,unrecognized in front of our very eyes. They are Homo sapiens patripolaris and Homo sapiens matripolaris. Their reproductive differences remain unnoticed. Yet, because they are two different species, when they cross-breed, their hybrid offspring are cross-wired to produce Dyslexics, Homosexuals, Pedophiles, and Schizophrenics. This book contains published questionnaires that enable you to find your hemisity, your familial polarity, learn to which species you belong, and what type of "normal" or hybrid you are. Unrecognized, life-affecting differences in courtship and child rearing exist between the two species. This is the topic of Familial Polarity whose ancient existence and influence upon history you can confirm for yourself. Ignorance of familial polarity is a major source of multiple levels of global conflict.

Daniel Szewc #psycho #wingnut 71republic.com

[From "The Case for the Physical Removal of Communists"]

There are some cancers that are best left untouched. Communism is not one of them. A free man shall not let another control himself and his honor. In fact, even the thought of compulsory education should cause a proud Westerner to take out his rifle against a tyrant that would propose such coercion. But, what shall we do, when the tyranny is in the hands of many, not the few?

As Konrad Berkowicz said exclusively to 71 Republic, “I’m not an ultras of freedom of speech- if someone was to urge publicly for people to rape women, then I’d lock him up. So if someone was publicly inciting the re-installment of an income tax, I’d have to think about it…” This perfectly illustrates a technical standpoint for looking at communists, as violators of law, order and morality.

Perhaps a better example is a future thief plotting to steal land from everyone in a country. However, the authorities let him off after his saying “But I’m a communist!”. A society cannot survive on freedom of speech that includes such incitements to violence. The very thought makes about as much sense as proposing a peaceful country without an army, or not excusing force in self defense. This is the direct ideological equivalent. If somebody violates or threatens to violate freedom, they cannot expect to keep their own.

Of course, one may pose another argument, that freedom of speech should apply solely to Homo Sapiens. In Latin, “Homo Sapiens” means “wise man”, and as we all know, communists are anything but wise.

There is a proposal, especially prominent in the Polish libertarian movement, supporting the “Day of the Rope”. At this point, libertarians seize power and cleanse the country from communists. As anyone can assume, removing singular supporters of communism that do not spread their ideology wouldn’t make sense. The banishment from a libertarian society would only occur for those actively trying to infringe upon the rights of those who do not consent. Peaceful communists, therefore, it is best to leave alone, as they harm nobody.

Let us quote Polish libertarian, late Stefan Kisielewski. “One black sheep underlines the whiteness of the rest”. Communists will always exist, but integrating peaceful ones into society serves a key purpose. By underlining the failure of their policies, a society may ensure that no such movement becomes mainstream.

Theodore Valentine #fundie 2peter3.com

[Excerpt from "5 Examples of Reverse Evolution by National Geographic – A Religion of Idiocy"]

Penguins: No Fly Zone!

Jenny Morber explains that penguin birds devolved into flightless birds by “(evolving) bigger muscles to better power through the water, denser bones that added strength and reduced buoyancy, and shorter, stiffer wings for more powerful swimming strokes with less drake.

Why didn’t the penguins (when they could fly of course) just migrate to a more tropical area in order to survive (it would have been much easier for them you know)? Why did penguins decide to evolve in one of the most dangerous environments on earth?

Do these sci-fi-lientists actually believe their own nonsense? Penguins have an abundance of “non-bird” traits. It is extremely far fetched to compare penguins to the type of flying birds we know of today.

– NON-BIRD TRAIT 1: There is no bird known to man that can dive like a penguin and stay under water for up to 18-minutes.
– NON-BIRD TRAIT 2: Birds have amazing eyesight in the air and on land; penguins have terrible eyesight on land but amazing eyesight in water.
– NON-BIRD TRAIT 3: The feet of a penguin is not vestigial wings like evolutionists would like you to believe. Penguins have flippers.

Brandon McCombs #fundie groups.google.com

On Sun, 2 Dec 2001 15:53:46 -0500
"n7...@swbell.net" <n7...@swbell.net> wrote:
> I have been following this thread with a mixture of amusement and exasperation - amusement that intelligent people like Linus, who ought to know better, are spouting this evolution stuff, and exasperation that some people think that because someone's an expert in one thing, they are an expert in all things.

No offense toward anyone but I find that many non-religious people can be found in the CompSci area of expertise. I'm not sure why this is but besides myself and another friend all the other people I know in that general field are atheists. It would only make sense that we would hear atheist type remarks within these discussions just as we would hear Christian remarks in another field of expertise that seems to attract Christians.

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> The idea of genetic evolution itself is complete nonsense - biological systems don't evolve genetically, they evolve environmentally. Biological systems change as a result of random mutation, and what doesn't work doesn't survive. What people try to pass off as evolution is simply the less fit not surviving to pass on their bad genes. Sort of like the hundred monkeys idea.

True. Many mutations in human DNA cause the resulting human to be unable to reproduce once they reach the age where a normal human could do so.


>
> But that is all completely irrelevent to coding, since it is extremely inefficient for systems to "evolve" based on trial and error. The way modern systems evolve is based on (hopefully) *intelligent* selection - I write a patch, submit it to Linus. He doesn't accept it, throw it in the kernel, and that's it - he looks at it, what it does, and decides if it fits in the Grand Scheme of things - kernel efficiency, speed, flexibility, extensability, and maintainability - and *then* decides if it makes it in. They key difference is that in nature, mutation is random because it can afford to be - in coding, it isn't because we don't have thousands or millions of years to find out whether or not something works or not.

We have a way of being able to direct the evolution of our code as we can control the bad parts and teh good parts and what gets added and what doesn't. We have no control over our DNA (human genetics may have proven me wrong already but if not, it shouldn't take more than a few months more) so mutations in the human race are more random.

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> That being said, I am well aware that "genetic programming" has made some progress in that direction, mainly because it doesn't take millenia to figure out what works and what doesn't. But that's a long way from "evolving" an entire operating system. I don't believe for a moment that homo sapiens "evolved" from pond scum although I might believe that some fellow homo sapiens *are* pond scum!) -

*finally* someone who doesn't believe in evolution of the human race. As a side note, i've heard some people say that a bolt of lightning triggered some proteins to start growing into single celled organisms and then into what we now call today human beings. I take offense that I came from a single celled organism. I believe the more complex an object or system is the less randomness can be added in order to arrive at the current/final version. I think we all agree the human body is the most complex object in the universe so how can we say that our existence was an accident?

An operating system is a complex system as well. We all know code doesn't evolve on its own to generate an operating system right? :) It has to be created and as time goes on code forks are sometimes introduced. In humans that could be somewhat akin to whites, blacks, asians, etc. But they were all created from the code that God started with. He just released his source code(dna) a little later in the development tree than some people may have wanted so there was no point in letting us evolve into something more as we were already different enough. :)

>it only makes sense that we are a created species, and that Homo Erectus ans all the rest were early genetic > experiments. Who created homo sapiens is beyond the scope of this discussion ;)

It is beyond the scope. If we attempted that topic we would be branded as close-minded even though the others (read: non-religious) can do it and they defend themselves by saying its free speech.

my time is out for this post.
brandon

john crawford #fundie christianforums.com

Neanderthal Americans are not allowed to teach their theories about Homo sapiens in US public schools. Our children are taught that they are Homo sapiens by neo-Darwinst race theorists and their own Neanderthal ancestry is denied. Our public school teachers are treated like common Homo sapiens and subjected to Social Darwinist theories of public education. Our racial ancestors are maligned as European 'cave-men' who drag their women around by the hair while they carry a big club on their shoulder. They are called a different and separate 'species' of Homos by neo-Darwinist race theorists in public schools who tell our children that everybody is descended from African people who originated from common ancestors of African monkeys and apes.

Now that such a long train of abuses has been listed, this is starting to read like a Neanderthal American Declaration of Independence.

AV1611VET #fundie christianforums.com

[I've always wondered why god always chose the ignorant, meek, humble and illiterate to reveal his precepts to.]

He says why -- to confound Homo sapienism:

1 Corinthians 1:27a But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise;

[Homo Sapienism?! What on earth is that meant to mean?]

The belief that we are Homo sapiens, along with all the scientific justification and associated rhetoric.

Domitia #fundie forum.nationstates.net

It's really sort of a mixed bag for me. On the one hand, any sort of decline in Christianity is inherently a bad thing, but on the other hand, the decline of mainline Protestantism is to be expected (this has been happening for decades). I think that American Christianity has been more American than Christian for quite some time. I mean, the fact that so many people are more concerned with so-called "marriage equality" than religious freedom is telling.

So the main question is, what's the best scenario for the re-evangelization of America? Is it better to let Atheism take over, then swoop in once people have realized they made the wrong choice, or is it more important to let the majority of American Christians think of themselves as Christians despite their beliefs being closer to moral therapeutic Deism? Personally, I think it'd be healthier to start with square one, than to have to re-educate people who already think of themselves as Christian. It boils down to what's easier: converting a Pagan to Christianity, or convincing a heretical Christian that his views are contrary to orthodox Christianity?

Either way, Christianity has survived as a persecuted minority religion before, so it's safe to assume that it'll survive in the future as well.

P.S. I'm not necessarily saying that Christianity is currently being persecuted in the US (it'd be foolish to claim that it isn't happening elsewhere, given how many Christians have died at the hands of ISIS). If I were trying to say that Christians were currently being persecuted, I'd have said something like "Just like in the past, Christianity has survived persecution, thus it will endure this current persecution as well". Though, like many traditionalist religious people, I'm concerned that when it comes to gay rights versus religious rights, the religious are going to lose. You might say that's a good thing, but I clearly disagree. While you're probably going to think I'm wrong to be against gay marriage, I at least think I'm consistent in that I also criticize American Christianity for allowing no-fault divorce and contraception. I think it's silly that many conservatives are claiming to defend traditional marriage by opposing same-sex marriage, but are totally fine with divorce (which also goes against traditional marriage).

Concerning future persecution of Christianity, it only seems natural. As Western society continues to distance itself from its Christian roots, Christian values will become more out of sync with secular values. Eventually, the religious will be forced to suffer quietly, while "enlightened" Progressivists have their say as to the future of the human race. Have you heard of those Atheist folks that want to make passing your religion onto your children illegal? For many Atheists they dream of a future where religion is either non-existent, or neutered. Would they go so far as to ban religion? Probably not. But things like making proselytizing illegal aren't that far-fetched. Am I wrong to feel concerned when society is moving in a direction I think is wrong? Wouldn't you be concerned too if, say, America were instead in another religious revival?

Tony Bermanseder #conspiracy tonyb.freeyellow.com

In its place would be the meme of a new mental archetype, which had, (in that subgroup of the humanoids, which began to understand the implications of the new technological inventions) transmuted the 'supernaturality virus' into a viral neuronal infection known as CIS-HSI or 'Complex Inferioris Syndrome Homo Sapiensis Insanus' by the extraterrestrial observers.

This meme infection of the cis-hsi would so begin to 'war against' the old meme infection of the supernaturality virus, also known as the CSS-HSI or 'Complex Superioris Syndrome Homo Sapiensis Insanus'.

The old meme infection had resulted in a worldview of considering the external environment as superior and controlling relative to the humanoid realms of understanding; and the new meme infection induced the opposite, the idea of the humanoid worlds beginning to control and dominate the exterior environments.

However this human mentality also induced a 'false humility', namely the idea, that to consciously and in full awareness of the 'self' as human individuation to continue the 'controlling of the terrestrial environment'; ANY notion of a 'greater encompassing' intelligence had to become 'supernaturalised' and so exiled into the realm of the meme infection of the 'others', the other humanoids, suffering the css-hsi insanity infection.

Relegating the human existence to a relative insignificance as compared to the extraterrestrial universe would instil the idea of a 'false humility' before the 'grandeur of the encompassing cosmos' in the new 'highpriests' of the new global religion of organised and politico-economical associated academia establishment.

Then the 'intelligentsia' would begin to dominate and seek to control all information shared with the 'uninitiated' lower classes and including the 'other' meme infected humanoids, suffering, like themselves, from an eonold virus, causing CSI-NMO or Complexus Syndroma Insanus -Nil Memoria Originalis.

The mental disease, the extraterrestrials knew was confined to the quarantined humanoid planet and as the Meme-Virus, which prevented the infected carrier to remember their origins, causing a comatose forgetfulness.

Both humanoid meme- infections parasited the homo sapiens insanus genus however and prevented this typology to metamorphose into 'Wise Man' in the genotype of Homo Sapiens Sapiens and as originally targeted by the gardeners at the time of the planting.

Minister R. A. Artis #fundie books.google.com

Jonathan looked at the being that had just said his name was Lucifer, the enemy of mankind. The still vulnerable youngster stood in absolute shock and disbelief. Lucifer observed the young man intently, knowing that his mind was trying desperately to ascertain the gravity of his presence along with what he had just told him. Being the absolute master of conniving deception and charisma, Lucifer set in motion his devious scheme to coerce the boy to his dark light and vision.
Smiling magnanimously, Lucifer placed his hand on Jonathan’s shoulder and, with a quiet compassion, said, “I know this sounds incredible, Jonathan, but everything you hold dear is comprised of half-truths and carefully disguised lies.” Glowing with an ethereal luminance, Lucifer continued, “Let me explain from the beginning…”
“The world from which we abide is called Nahash, located around the star you call Alnilam, the center star in the belt of the constellation Orion. Our world developed our intelligence billions of years before yours, and we achieved a level of development where we evolved into pure energy. Our thoughts could be translated into whatever we could conceive. One of us achieved a power and intelligence greater than all and began to reshape the cosmos into his image. He became so powerful he was able to contract the entire universe into one small infinitesimally dense microscopic singularity and release all that enormous energy in what you call the ‘Big Bang.’ This enabled him to reform the universe as he saw fit. His name is Yahweh, the being you refer to as God.”
Jonathan was rocked to the core of his being as he interrupted Lucifer’s explanation, “Wait one moment! You mean to tell me that Yahweh, though powerful, may not be the God we hold as the Supreme Creator?!”
Smiling at the deductive reasoning and high intelligence the young man showed, Lucifer continued, “That is correct, Jonathan. Yahweh is indeed powerful and to you he may appear to be omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent, but, in essence he is not God in the sense you perceive God. In the vastness of creation, there are levels of omnipotence that you cannot conceive of in your present stage of development. There are many dimensions of existence in what is called the multiverse which is housed within the omniverse, the conceptual ensemble of all possible universes with all possible laws of physics. Yahweh is only the present manifestation of the Creator Force of this universe. There is, however, a being that is known to those who have attained a certain level of awareness who is the essence and intelligence of the omniverse, and he is referred to as the One Above All.”
“Let me continue, the One Above All decreed that all universes and realities be created, destroyed, and re-created in an eternally repetitive series of cycles for reasons known only to Him. Yahweh decided that instead of being the avatar of the One Above All, he would separate this universe from Himself and create his own cosmos with his own rules. The first thing Yahweh did was to create a pocket dimension he called Heaven, located in the recesses of the Northern quadrant of this universe. He then took the rest of the Nahashians and made them into the hierarchy of angelic beings. I was the first evidence of his creative genius, and he made me the epitome of his splendor, power, and wisdom. I and the rest of the host spent countless eons worshipping Yahweh as matter and time coalesced into its present form.”
“Yahweh then turned his attention to Earth and saw that one of the primitive ape-like creatures had unlimited intelligence and genetic potential. He wanted me to experiment on them. This experimentation took millions of years until I finally created Homo sapiens, who were designed from the very essence of Yahweh. Yahweh was so impressed with my handiwork he imbued man with a fraction of his divine spark that gave man a soul. This surprised and shocked many of the angels, as well as myself, who were confused as to the reason why Yahweh wanted to have created this new race of beings.
“Yahweh gave no reason only that we should be patient and trust him and for a time this was sufficient. However, I discovered that Yahweh intended for man to be a race of slaves, and I did not want this for I had become fond of man. I vehemently criticized Yahweh’s plan, accusing him of lacking vision and benevolence. I decided to collect evidence to persuade Yahweh that humanity deserved to be free to discover their place in the universe and to reach their own potential without the encumbering laws he had created to bind humanity to his oppressive will.
“You see, Jonathan, Yahweh desired all humanity to be his slaves and ignorant to the truth that freedom from his laws bring. I, on the other hand, desired man to have knowledge of self and have his mind opened to realization of that knowledge. Yahweh and I became estranged because of this ideological conflict and so, when in the Garden of Eden, where humanity’s primordial parents, Adam and Eve, the first of Homo sapiens, were told not to eat of the Tree of Knowledge, which was not an actual fruit but a metaphor for forbidden knowledge. Yahweh kept this information hidden from them like in the legend of Prometheus, who stole fire from the gods to give to man. I informed them that their nakedness represented Yahweh’s desire to keep them enslaved because of the threat they represented.
“Yahweh knew that one day man would become as powerful as Himself, and they would become a threat to His reign. Adam and Eve felt degraded by this revelation, and they rebelled against Yahweh who punished them by introducing death, pain, and suffering into the universe to keep them imprisoned to his will. Yahweh then made me the perpetrator of this egregious crime and formulated the legend of Satan and the birth of evil.”
“By this time, the barrier between Yahweh and me had become a full-fledged war, and a third of Heaven had taken up my cause to liberate man. I challenged Yahweh that he was far too removed from man to see how pain and anguish motivated Him to strive for meaning to His mortal existence. I demanded that if He truly wished to understand Himself then He should take human form. Angered by this, Yahweh chose to replicate himself and created Jesus Christ, whom He endowed with all His power. Jesus was fully human at the same time. I challenged Yahweh to experience human passions and desires through Jesus, and this He did by becoming familiar with the mortality of suffering and eventual death. I was awed and shocked by Yahweh’s decision to allow Jesus to die, supposedly as a sacrifice for man’s ‘transgression’ in the Garden of Eden; however, the truth of the matter was— and is— Jesus’ sacrifice was in vain.
“You see, the human spirit is so powerful that at death it resides either in an unconscious state within the body or in an extradimensional limbo. Some await rebirth, while those select few who have lived extraordinary lives are granted oneness with the One Above All, to exist eternally as part of the living spiritual intelligence of the omniverse. Jesus’ sacrifice to atone for sin was another clever ruse to keep humankind enslaved to the will of Yahweh. You see, unlike a regular human, when Jesus, who was Yahweh in human form, died on the cross, He knew that he would survive and thus could never have known the true suffering of man. Man does not know his soul will survive. It suffers, and in this ambiguity, man is granted a gift which Yahweh does not understand: the passion to cling to life and the strength that mortality affords you. Yahweh knew He would survive death and could not truly know what it was to be human.”
Lucifer decided it was time to twist the truth a little more in order to place another shred of doubt in Jonathan’s mind.
Feigning reluctance, Lucifer took a deep breath and vehemently said, “What I am about to divulge to you, Jonathan, is known only to very few. And if Yahweh knew I was telling you this He would most certainly destroy you. Heaven is not what you think. Yahweh created it in an effort to shield his presence from the One Above All and developed the myth that all human souls would subject themselves to his servitude. He formulated that they would abide there with Him after the death of their corporeal forms. The truth is, the only entities present in Heaven are those angelic Nahashians who are in Yahweh’s service, and Hell is another scare tactic He uses to keep his victims enslaved. Heaven and Hell can be on Earth and is how you live your life, Jonathan. You can either live your life a slave to the whims and wishes of a cruel and brutish god, or you can choose to have the blinders lifted from your eyes and see the light of the truth.”
Drawing himself closer to the young man’s beautiful face, Lucifer compassionately said, “Jonathan, Yahweh knows as well as I that humankind has evolved more quickly than anticipated. The latent abilities we foresaw in you will become evident in less than a generation instead of the centuries we thought, and, you my friend, are one of the first of those blessed to become the next stage of human development.
“Homo sapiens are evolving into gods, capable of all manner of wonders and miracles. Your race will transform the universe and I will help you to do so, for this is my desire, to help humans become like me and exist as independent entities, enslaved by no one. I will lead you to your glorious future and together we will topple Yahweh’s destructive and self-serving regime!”
Pleadingly, Lucifer reached out his hand to Jonathan and beseeched him, “Will you help me, Jonathan? Will you take your place at my side and expose Yahweh for what He is?”
Jonathan reeled from the sheer magnitude of all that he had heard and seen as he contemplated everything Lucifer had told him. Was it true that Yahweh was some sort of super alien being and everything he had learned concerning him was a lie designed to keep man from achieving his destiny? Was it Lucifer and not Christ the Messiah who was and Savior of mankind? Was it his destiny to help expose the truth of this to the world?
The young man sighed as he said as if he was weighed down by the entire world’s problems compounded doubly, “This is all so fantastic. I don’t know what to think, or do. I have to consider what to do with all that you have told me.”
Smiling graciously, Lucifer said, “I understand Jonathan. I realize I have placed a tremendous burden on you, but remember, fate rarely calls upon us at a time of our choosing, yet when it does, will you be ready? I will not force you Jonathan. You will have to decide for yourself what to do with what I have told you. Truth is a dangerous thing my friend, for once you have learned from it, you can never go back to who you were. Stay blind and in darkness and remain a slave, or take what I given you and free the world.”
Lucifer slowly disappeared and said in passing, “When the time comes, I shall return unto you and it will be then you will chose either to stand with me or against me. Farewell, until then …”
The sound of Lucifer’s voice echoed into the night sky as he vanished from sight and left Jonathan alone on the shores of Loch Ness.
The Scotland summer wind wafted over the waters of the famous lake and drifted over Jonathan, caressing his body with its warm light touch, as he tried desperately to make sense of what had just transpired. His entire world had been turned upside down and the teachings he had once held dear may all be a part of a carefully conceived lie invented by an immensely powerful alien who wished to maintain a dictatorial hold on humankind in order to prevent them from evolving into a super race that had the potential to bring his tyrannical rule to an end and restore the universe to the care of the One Above All, if everything Lucifer had told him was true. In his mind, Jonathan thought that this was all some form of hallucination, but if it was, then what caused it? He knew in his rational mind that this was indeed a true and real occurrence, but to what purpose? He was well aware that his gifts and talents made him stand apart, but was he so exceptional that he merited the attention of not only God, but that of Lucifer as well? Was Lucifer truly the evil entity he was portrayed to be, or was he indeed the being who truly created humans and the true Savior of mankind? Was he the benefactor of human civilization and not the perpetrator of malevolence and wickedness history showed him to be? These questions and many, many more raced through his mind as he looked over the waters of Loch Ness. The words which Lucifer spoke to him were the most compelling declarations he had ever heard and they carried a ring of truth, but, like strong black coffee, there was a bitterness that hung over him. Had Lucifer told him the truth or was he being the consummate liar he was said to be and was this an attempt to have him become a disciple of iniquity?
Falling to his knees, Jonathan cried out in a loud voice, “God, help me! What am I going to do?! I can’t handle this! It is too much for me to bear!”
The tears that flowed from his eyes dripped down his face and rained upon the ground as he wept in confusion and pain. All of a sudden, the waters of Loch Ness began to churn and great waves were thrown ferociously against the shores and broke Jonathan from his cries to God. The agitation grew more intense as the young man looked in confusion and wonder at what was occurring in front of him. What more could happen to him this night? Suddenly a great serpentine form exploded from the frothing disorder of the waters and released a deafening roar that chilled Jonathan to the very core of his being. Fearfully, Jonathan wondered if this was the famed Loch Ness Monster of legend.

Unknown women #conspiracy express.co.uk

A group of women who say Sir Edward Heath abused them as children have also accused their parents of being involved in up to 16 murders.
The farce came as police probe incredible claims that the former prime minister was linked to a paedophile ring that killed as many as 16 children – which would make them the worst child murderers in British history.

The seemingly far-fetched allegations have been made by a family who allege that the politician was part of a satanic sex cult run by their own parents. They say that the cult regularly slaughtered children as ritual sacrifices in churches and forests around southern England and also participated in similar ceremonies in Africa.

They claim their mother and father – who is said to have known the former Conservative leader – were responsible for slaughtering children ranging from babies to teenagers – yet they evaded justice.
The paedophile ring – which they say Sir Edward was part of – stabbed, tortured and maimed youngsters in churches and burnt babies in satanic orgies before men, women and children gorged themselves on blood and body parts, police have been told.

If the bizarre allegations were to be proved, the parents who allegedly led the killings would be responsible for murdering more children than Fred and Rose West. They would also be on a par with Thomas Hamilton, who shot dead 16 children in the 1996 Dunblane school massacre.

The women’s lurid claims were dismissed by police in 1989 when they came forward. Sir Edward’s name was never mentioned to police at the time. It was only last year that he was named for the first time after one of the claimants said she had ‘remembered’ a man called ‘Ed’ was a prime mover in a network of paedophile abusers.

But there is no suggestion that Sir Edward killed any children himself in the women’s accounts. Wiltshire Police have spent more than a year investigating the allegations as part of an inquiry that has cost taxpayers over £883,431 and irretrievably tarnished the reputation of the unmarried politician, who died in 2005, aged 89.

Last night Sir Edward’s godson, Lincoln Seligman, said: ‘I understand that these claims from the 1980s were at the time dismissed as complete fantasy by police. It is disappointing that these wild allegations have been reheated and randomly attached to Edward Heath’s name.’

A Wiltshire Police spokesman said: ‘We are not prepared to discuss this as this is an on-going investigation.’

Bill Thomas #fundie smh.com.au

I do wish that the Herald editorial team would stop presenting Carl Sagan science fiction gibberish dressed up as if it were fact (''The little spacecraft that could'', September 14-15). It occurred over the weekend, when we were fed a far-fetched story about a space vehicle named Voyager and interstellar exploration.

This is the same type of pseudo scientific mumbo jumbo that exploiters of the public purse have been doing with climate change over many years. It is arrant nonsense and has to stop right here and now. The Herald does itself no favours by printing it, pretending that the sci-fi exaggerations are factual.

CAPAlert #fundie capalert.com

[The sinister effects of growing up with Disney's "Pinnochio"]

The youth of the Pinocchio era are the leaders of our country, policies. legal systems and society today. And what, may I ask, happened to prayer in school? To the Ten Commandments in public places? To Christianity in general? Hasn't Satanism become an official "religion" today? And Paganism? And how might you suspect the separation of church and state, which is NOT in the Constitution but was rather a letter from an early president to a pastor promising no national religion, became a law of the land? Maybe this multi-level inference is not as far-fetched as you might think.

Anonymous #conspiracy coolinterestingstuff.com

THE game was up. The war was lost. Their leader had killed himself.

So why would Adolf Hitler’s aides have gone to such lengths and risked their lives to take his body and that of Eva Braun out of his bunker, under fire from Soviet artillery, and try to burn them beyond recognition?

It is a sinister thought but conspiracy theorists all over the world will be asking once more: Did Hitler really die in his bunker?

Historians have generally agreed since the end of the Second World War that, staring defeat in the face, an increasingly feeble and paranoid Hitler had married Eva Braun in the bowels of his Berlin bunker after midnight on April 29, 1945, and later dictated his will.

His physician Werner Haase, in response to Hitler’s questions, had recommended a dose of cyanide and a gunshot to the head as the most reliable form of suicide.

Hitler, convinced of the treason of SS leader Heinrich Himmler, doubted the reliability of the SS-supplied cyanide tablets and had one tested on his dog Blondi, after which the dog died.

Following lunch on April 30, with Soviet forces less than 500 metres from the bunker, Hitler and Eva said goodbye to staff and fellow occupants, including the Goebbels family, private secretary Martin Bormann and military officers.

They went into Hitler’s personal study at 2.30pm and at around 3.30pm some witnesses reported hearing a loud gunshot.

Those, including valet Heinz Linge, who went into the study reported the smell of almonds, consistent with cyanide gas.

They said they saw Hitler slumped on his desk with a bullet wound to his head, a pistol on the floor and blood pooling on the arm of the sofa on which Eva lay beside him with no visible sign of injury.

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Several witnesses said the bodies were then carried up to the emergency exit and into a small bombed-out garden behind the Chancellery where they were doused with petrol and set alight, then buried in a small crater when the Soviet shelling made it unsafe for the cremation to continue.

Seven and a half hours later, Red Army troops began storming the Chancellery and the remains of Hitler, his wife and two of his dogs were said to have been discovered in a shell crater by a Soviet soldier.

But were they? The Soviet story changed regularly in the aftermath of the fall of Berlin and in the following years. Conspiracy theorists point to suggestions that:

Joseph Stalin told Western leaders at the Potsdam conference in 1945 he believed Hitler may have escaped to Spain or South America.

Stalin’s top army officer, Marshal Georgy Zhukov, said: “We found no corpse that could be Hitler’s.”

The acting chief of the US trial counsel at Nuremberg, Thomas J Dodd, said: “No one can say he is dead.” The most convincing evidence of Hitler’s suicide came from the testimonies of those who were in the bunker — but they did not all agree on the details.

Hitler’s bodygyuard Rochus Misch, the only survivor of the bunker still alive, told this year how he heard someone shout to Hitler’s valet, “Linge, Linge, I think it’s happened.”

“They’d heard a gunshot, but I hadn’t. I saw Hitler slumped by the table. I did not see any blood on his head.”

After the bodies were carried upstairs, Misch said: “Someone shouted to me, ‘Hurry upstairs, they’re burning the boss!’ ”

But Misch decided not to go, in case the “last witnesses” were shot.

He was later captured after fleeing the bunker and spent eight years in Soviet prison camps.

Details of a Soviet autopsy on the remains they found, released years later, apparently showed gunshot wounds and cyanide poisoning.

The remains were repeatedly buried and exhumed by Russian agents during their relocation from Berlin to a new facility at Magdeburg. There, they were put in an unmarked grave with the bodies of propaganda minister Joseph Goebbels, his wife and their six children.

When the facility was due to be handed over to the East German government in 1970, the KGB, it is said, exhumed all ten bodies, burned them and threw the ashes in the river Elbe to prevent the area becoming a Nazi shrine.

They kept Hitler’s jaw and part of his skull — the fragment now thrown into doubt by US archaeologist Nick Bellantoni, who was given permission to examine the artefacts in the Russian state archive.

Other discrepancies which have muddied the waters include a photo released by Soviets at the time of the fall of Berlin which purported to be the body of Hitler, shot in the forehead. It is now thought to be one of Hitler’s body doubles.

Others who believe he escaped subscribe to a variety of conspiracy theories. The most popular include one or more of these elements:

Hitler and Eva Braun escaped from the bunker on April 22, 1945, leaving behind doubles who killed themselves or were murdered.

They were flown to Norway where German subs were waiting to transport them away from Europe.

They were helped by the Vatican to escape to Spain then Argentina.

Two German submarines seized by Argentina after the war had delivered Hitler to a secret Nazi base in the heart of Antarctica.

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The Falklands War was fought by Britain not to protect the islanders but the secret that British authorities knew about the Nazi base in nearby Antarctica.

Hitler thrived in a community of Germans in Argentina where he went under the alias of priest Father Krespi. When ‘Krespi’ died in 1993, Germans from all over the world flew in for the funeral.

Using rocket technology, the Nazis sent Hitler to a secret base on the moon. Not all of the theories are so far-fetched.

In the book Hitler’s Escape, by Ron T Hansig, the author argues that the Nazi leader may have made his getaway to Spain.

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It claims that Gestapo chief Heinrich Muller told his American interrogators in 1948 that he had arranged Hitler’s escape and that the German leader and Eva Braun flew to Barcelona on April 26, 1945.

So did Hitler survive? Were the details of his death deliberately muddled by the Soviets?

Steve Huston #fundie americandecency.org

Many around the country, myself included, have been praying for those who are in Harvey’s grip; but let’s not forget, truly, they are in the grip of God. I have friends and family in Texas; I think it’s a great state, and I’m not casting stones at the people there. But let’s ask ourselves a question.

Rather than wondering where God is during a time like this, isn’t it possible that this is a kind of divine judgment—the wrath of God—coming upon a nation who turns from and denies its godly heritage, a nation who destroys generation upon generation of its progeny; a nation who has taken the symbol of God’s promise—the rainbow—turning it into a symbol of man’s perversion; a nation that raises its fist to God neglecting the beauty of male and female—denying the very Hand of our Creator? As God looks upon a land He blessed and sees a people who have changed their God for those gods which are no gods and its churches drink from broken, self-made cisterns while forsaking Him—the fountain of living waters—is it so far-fetched that God has sent Harvey to speak to a country that has outlawed speaking to Him and has been sticking their fingers in their ears for too long?

Matt Barber #fundie wnd.com

To be sure, “marriage equality” already exists. It is, quite simply, the self-evident truth that both husband and wife are co-equal, indispensable partners essential to the formulation of a marriage covenant. While moral relativists clamor for their propagandist version of “marriage equality,” the rest of us live in marriage reality.

Every single mentally competent adult enjoys the right to marry within exactly the same parameters required by natural law. Thus, “equal protection under the law” is afforded to all. As long as your spouse-to-be is 1) not too closely related, 2) of legal age, 3) only one person, 4) of the opposite sex and 5) a biped of the genus homo-sapien – then you’re golden. Marry away.

If you remove one requirement – in this case, the binary male-female prerequisite – then there is no justification, logical or legal, for not removing all requirements. If we yank one foundational brick from the marriage wall, then, as in the days of Jericho, the whole danged thing comes a-tumblin’. That is to say, if the Supreme Court rolls out “gay marriage,” then legalized polygamy, incestuous marriage and heaven-knows-what-else must inevitably follow.

Mack Major #fundie facebook.com

Jesus said that when a man LOOKS at a woman to lust after her, he's already committed the adulterous act in his heart. *Matt 5:28

Fellas, did you know that LUST was an open doorway into the spirit realm?

Not only that: it's a one way door, meaning that whatever lies on the other side of that door has permission to enter your life by the simple act of you lusting after it.

Allow me to help some of you understand deeper level spiritual understanding:

The spirit realm is a very real inter-dimensional world that exists right alongside our three dimensional world of reality. To keep it simple, let's just say it's an extra layer of a deeper reality that we all swim in daily. Most just do so unaware.

The spirit realm is populated with different species of life too, just like the world we are most familiar with has different species of reptiles, mammals, birds, fish, insects, germs, etc.

Some of these species are extremely wicked. And they are highly intelligent. More intelligent in fact than humans are. And they hate you.

These species are what the bible refer to as unclean spirits, devils, demons, evil spirits, etc. And they're like really nasty bacteria, viruses or germs whose only purpose is to kill and destroy life in every way possible.

One of these species that exist in this realm are called spirits of lust. And their only purpose is to occupy the mind or body of any person who is willing to host them.

Once those spirits of lust enter into you, they enslave you, open you up for more spirits to come in, and ultimately use you to spread their sick virus into others.

Once you are no longer any good to them, they will shipwreck your life completely. And may even kill you. It may sound far-fetched, but I can assure you it's not!

When Jesus warned us not to lust after women, it had a deeper purpose than just stopping men from being "poon" hounds. He was actually showing you how to keep yourself from being invaded by one of these foul spirits of lust.

Your lust is the open invitation and legal grounds for these spirits of lust to enter you and control your life.

And once they enter, they don't leave easy. They'll bog you down, make you into a bonafide simp, steal your time, life and productivity from you. You won't be able to make much money; at least not as much as you should be making.

Because your whole driving focus, every free waking thought will be on seeking sexual gratification. For many of you, your computer hard drive and cell phone photos are proof of this very point.

I see you online too: timeline filled with photos of half-naked women. Quick to comment on any female who has a picture of herself up in something tight or revealing: "Daaaaang! You sexy!

Why you teasing me like that? Gorgeous! Stunning! Wife material!"
All evidence of extreme thirst, aka LUST.

You need to also be aware that certain environments are set up because they are conducive to filling any unsuspecting man who wander in with lust spirits. Examples of such places would be:

Strip clubs, night clubs, lounges, parties, comedy clubs, concert venues, X-rated movie theaters, Black bike weekends, beach parties, Greek frat festivals, college frat parties, bachelor parties, etc.

Basically, any place where women will be present dressed as skimpily and enticingly as possible is where you'll find plenty of lust demons lurking for new victims. And sad to say: this also includes many CHURCHES...

And please be aware that many women you see online or around you, showcasing all their lovely female assets, are really nothing more than secret agents of Satan sent to trap men's souls via lust.

So quit giving such women props and attention in the hopes that she'll give you a shot! That never works anyway, because women like that feed off your lust and attention. All they want is your worship anyway.

Who told us that lusting after women was what men are supposed to do? Men are supposed to control themselves, possess their bodies in honor, build and create things, establish families and lead.

But you can't do that if your thoughts are filled with sex 24/7.
SHAKE THOSE LUST DEMONS OUT OF YOUR LIFE TODAY!

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If you desire to empower yourself against the wiles of wicked women and their lust spirits: Don't ignore this message.

The sooner you make an active effort to liberate yourself from the tyranny of lust-fullness, the sooner you'll regain your rights and freedom as a man!

Jesus Christ provides absolute and total freedom. And this freedom is available for whosoever will, today. That means YOU.

So download the ebook, and be sure to look to Jesus: who alone can powerfully drive those lust spirits out of your life once and for all.

God bless.

Kellz #conspiracy godlikeproductions.com

Neither. Based on everything you wrote, its a tactic against an enemy, which is you in this case. Trust me, its not the second thing, your enemy could be a rabid rapist who likes to dress up in his mother's high heels while singing Diana Ross tunes, yet if this is a war against you, you start to see the telltrue signs of war, one of those is mal-progranda or facetious proganda.

By facetious, I mean deliberately saying something about your enemy that is not true. Like your enemy is the cross dresser, but yet he says you are. In addition to randomly having humans read your mind, when telepathic technology has yet to be introduced, you have the issue of someone purposely lying about you.

Like see this bit right here:
Whenever I prayed to god in my head, they recoiled and showed outward disgust or fear.

Please. Look into some wars, some recent, some not. Humanity on this planet is without compassion when it comes to war.

I'm going through what your going through, and trust me, people saying 'mean' things about your thoughts is the LEAST of your worries.
Wait until they go from one lie to the next. Wait until they're right in front of you with their masks on, with a soul clearly stuck underneath them. Is it you? Is it your team? Watch them, see the kinds of reinforcement methods they have about themselves.

Another thing that might be kind of hard to chew, but is quite real, they have have your spirit eye or your power.
Try this one for a scenario, as sick as it is, you are a 34 year old male, I'm female, I'm setting this up as an example. Anyway, you live on a planet called Greatworld, but what you don't know about this planet is it has many secrets, some of them are extreme and wild beyond human comprehension. One of them is that your planet does not look quite the way it does in pictures, and this planet is actually called Raiders. Planet Greatworld is full of deception, treasures, lies, sex, and anything else you could think of.

Planet Greatworld is run in part by Ancient and Mythic Gods, and a very Human group of people, whom weild the power of Gods. There are actual Gods, yes as you will come to find out later, but in your case, this Human group of people is actually very important. This group is called The Secret Society of Hoarders for the Enslavement Benefit of The Rich and Powerful Mankind, or SSHBM for short.

A lot of Greatworld residents know about this, but keep it hidden for advancement in a religious hierarchy that is very important to them, for it is the only thing they know. It is the only system that provides them freedom and understanding in life and in death. Besides, what may be perceived as bad to one person, might be just and righteous to everyone else.

Every human born on planet Raiders gets a spiritual implant (Demon Angel Eye Nobody knows what it is really) installed in them from birth. This helps the human controllers control and monitor everything you do, most importantly, it literally gives them control over your soul, yet little people know this. Every once in a while, when someone dies on planet Greatworld, they go to a different planet entirely, sometimes, they even advance in all manners of Spirit Evolution. Sometimes a human can actually, after many years in the spiritual world, become a God. You don't know this, but the shadowy elite knows this.

One year, it begins. Everyone starts reacting to you negatively similar to a body of Christ infected with Lupus. The whole of planet Greatworld, including it's seedy spirit world, is against you.

Heres where it gets bizarre, you have a beard, and a penis, yet the people of Greatworld, whom had up until this point called you a dude, now call you a female. Its like a fun Satanic load of crackerjacks. Anyway, so you wait until this shit blows over, because theres way too many fucking lies for you to get the straight of it. You die, then go to a different planet entirely. You evolve in death and go on to become a spirit and protector of a world.
Yes, this is great, its your birthday, go love your world.

However a group that you have forgotten, whom has never forgotten you, knew. They knew and know. You see whenever a spirit goes on to another planet as you did, and do what you did, the SSBHM knows because of the implant. This gives them knowledge of other planets and allows them a window into a world, without actually being there.

While you are overseeing the nice, pretty, true world that is yours, the SSHBM is literally salivating at the mouths like hungry wolves. SURPRISE! They are just in your low orbit with a fleet of war spaceships that you never even saw on planet Greatworld. They are there for one word, and one word only RAID. Not only do they want your world's treasures, they want your essence as well. Quite sad. You are overtaken and de-deified by advanced humans, your eye/spirit given to someone else.

Another surprise, due to the warping of space, this RAID incident happens in the past. This is why people on planet Greatworld treat you like a piece of shit, because if you meet your enemy, know they're your enemy, and have already seen their doom, then whats the point of politeness? To the Victors go the spoils, so in their mind, you're just a minor inconvencience before getting to something really good. They don't give a shit about you. They stick to the script and they're military in their ways. In fact, if you were the person in this scenenario I wouldn't call it quits as much as I would just you know Akuna Matada that shit, because to be fair that memory cap on the way out will cancel any plans for opposition, even if you did believe such a far-fetched idea.

Brenda R Johnson #fundie amazon.com

I was asked to read this book in joining an existing book club that had already been meeting for over 5 years. I did not join earlier as I am not a fast reader so what I spend my time reading is precious and I give the first fruits of my time to reading The Most Precious Book of All. This book is far-fetched with so much of the Corridor's strange actions explained away by the author's imagination that it just plain troubled me. References to "blood red," "bright lights," "scrolls," "an intelligence," and overall "death but being alive after-the-fact" goes against my faith in Jesus Christ. Please don't waste your time and certainly don't waste your children's time by offering this book to them. Give them a book which has a true biblical message that also enhances their vocabulary as well as their perspective on who the true "intelligence" is, Jesus Christ.

Scott Lively #fundie scottlively.net

So here’s the moment of truth for pro-family analysts and advocates. Do you really grasp the extent to which LGBT leaders and activists will go to serve their own interests? You’ve seen what they do at the street level, against Christian businesses, etc. What would that deviltry look like on an international level, if, say, the President of the United States were a “gay” activist?

In August of 2013 I sent a open letter to President Putin, thanking him for signing the anti-propaganda law. In it I warned him “not to assume that you have fully solved the problem by the enactment of this law. The battle to protect your society from homosexualization has only just begun, and you may be surprised to discover in the coming months and years just how aggressively many world leaders will work to try to intimidate and coerce you to capitulate to homosexualist demands.” http://www.scottlively.net/2013/08/30/an-open-letter-to-president-vladimir-putin/

Regardless of where one stands on Ukraine or Vladimir Putin, just for a moment consider where the pro-family movement would be if it hadn’t been for the Ukraine coup. Russia would still be (relatively speaking) a respected member of the international community offering an alternative, genuinely pro-family model for social policy. There would likely be at least a half-dozen nations which would have adopted the anti-propaganda law for themselves (with many more considering it) and there would be a healthy international debate raging on pro-family vs LGBT visions for the future. I believe the tide would probably have begun to turn in our favor, at least on the global scene, if not yet in the US or EU.

Is it really so far-fetched to believe that morally wicked, Imperialistic, Alinsky-ite Obama (credibly alleged to be a homosexual himself) started the Ukrainian civil war to punish Russia for opposing the “core value” of America, the priority of his State Department? Or (more importantly to the “gays”) to prevent the Russians from leading a pro-family counter-revolution in the world?

Are you as a pro-family conservative really going to accept the word of Barack Obama, John McCain and the mainstream media that Russia is the bad guy in this story? If you do, you really don’t know your enemy — and I’m not talking about Putin.

Next time you hear the implication that Russia has created “a climate of hate and fear” in Ukraine, Russia or anywhere else, just remember whose go-to strategy this is for smearing its opponents and how deeply they are entrenched in the media, the White House and now the GOP establishment as well.

Tom Kovach #fundie renewamerica.us

now, seriously, folks...

My own on-air contribution to Obonics was "Obamistan" — the new name for a United States that is forced to accept Islamic Shari'a law. If you think that is a far-fetched idea, then consider another Islamic term: taq'qiyah. That word describes the fact that, under Islam, it is entirely acceptable — even encouraged — to use any level of deception against "unbelievers" (in Allah, who is not the same as the God of the Bible) to advance the cause of Islam. In the video linked above, note that an Islamic "scholar" (Abu Hamza al-Masri) advocates that Muslims may commit any act — beat, kidnap, sell, or kill — upon any non-Muslim that they might encounter. Al-Masri says that all non-Muslims are "like a cow."
Barack Obama claims to be a Christian. But, is he? His "church" seems to hold Nation of Islam founder Louis Farrakhan in higher esteem than they do Jesus Christ. Obama used his political clout to support a regime in Kenya that oppressed Christians and attempted to impose shari'a law on all Kenyans. Obama's grandfather renounced Christianity. (For the results of that, read Hebrews 6, especially Verse 6.) Barack Obama's childhood friends recall him as a devout Muslim, and so do his relatives. A news item from India reports that Obama also carries a miniature Hindu idol in his pocket for "luck." (The word "luck" stems from the name "Lucifer." The word in Russian for "evil" is lukavaho. Christians should bristle whenever someone wishes them "good luck.")

Congressman Louis Gohmert #fundie thinkprogress.org

There have been a lot of justifications for continued discrimination against LGBT people.

Preserving marriage. Religious freedom. Preservation of traditional families.

But in a speech on the House floor this week, Congressman Louis Gohmert took things to the next level. Gohmert argued that we need to discriminate against LGBT people now or the future of humanity is in danger.

How? It’s really quite simple. At some point, a giant asteroid may start barreling toward earth, putting the future of humanity in doubt. We will then need to prepare a special spaceship and send a group of people to colonize Mars.

In case you think this is far-fetched, Gohmert notes this is not a dissimilar scenario from a recent Matt Damon flick, The Martian.

Gohmert postulates that we would only be able to send about 40 people. It’s unclear how he arrives at that number but it seems reasonable. If we can’t discriminate against LGBT people, Gohmert reminds us, all of the people on the special spaceship might end up being same-sex couples.

What will happen to humanity when everyone on Mars is gay? Gohmert is sketchy on the details.

Catholic Exorcists #fundie telegraph.co.uk

'Emergency' need for exorcists after surge in people dabbling in Satanism and black magic

Exorcists are in urgent demand as a result of a sharp rise in people dabbling in Satanism and the occult, experts from the Catholic Church in Italy and the US said.

Speaking in tongues, levitating and vomiting nails may seem far-fetched to most people, but church experts insist there is a need to recruit more priests as exorcists in order to combat sorcery and black magic.

Valter Cascioli, a psychologist and scientific consultant to the International Association of Exorcists, which is endorsed by the Vatican, described as an “emergency” the lack of priests capable of fighting the forces of evil.

“The lack of exorcists is a real emergency. There is a pastoral emergency as a result of a significant increase in the number of diabolical possessions that exorcist priests are confronting,” he told La Stampa newspaper.

“The number of people who take part in occult and satanic practices, which lead to serious physical, psychological and spiritual damages, is constantly rising.”
Catholic priests claim the internet has fuelled an interest in black magic

Dr Cascioli teaches courses in exorcism at the Pontifical University of Regina Apostolorum, a Vatican-backed university in Rome. “The number of exorcists has increased in recent years, but there are still not enough to deal with a dramatic situation that affects, above all, young people who use the internet a lot.

“There is a broad spread of superstitious practices, and with that a growing number of requests for help from people who are directly or indirectly struck by evil.

“It is dangerous to underestimate a phenomenon that is caused by the direct actions of the devil, but also by a decline in faith and values.”

He called for the establishment of a permanent training college or university where Catholic priests would be taught how to counter the malign influence of the Devil. “There doesn’t exist a training institution at university level. We need an interdisciplinary approach in which science collaborates with religion, and psychiatrists work with demonologists and exorcists.”

He said it was important not to confuse cases of diabolical possession with psychiatric illnesses. Only one per cent of people who claim to have problems with demons have real need of an exorcist, he said.

Father Ildebrando Di Fulvio, the exorcist for the diocese of Frosinone, a town south of Rome, said people possessed by the devil often vomited metal objects and chunks of undigested food and gibbered in archaic languages such as Aramaic, ancient Greek and Latin.

They demonstrated “violent reactions to prayers of liberation and to holy water,” he said.

On the other side of the Atlantic, two of America’s leading exorcists told The Telegraph that keeping up with demand for exorcisms is a constant struggle.

Father Gary Thomas, whose training in Rome was chronicled in the book The Rite: The Making of a Modern Exorcist, and Father Vincent Lampert, whose work has featured on the television show Paranormal Witness, said demonic possessions were the result of an increase in drug and pornography addiction.

They also pointed to a rise in the popularity of "pagan activities", such as using a Ouija board to summon the dead, the failure of the mental health care system, a spiritual void in the lives of Americans and the diminishing authority of the Church.

“We’re gaining all sorts of knowledge, but there’s still that emptiness within us that is being filled with addictive behaviour such as drugs and pornography,” said Father Lampert, of the Archdiocese of Indianapolis. “The decline in faith goes hand in hand with the rise in evil.”

Father Thomas, the official exorcist of the diocese of San Jose in northern California, trained in Rome in 2005 after being an ordained priest for 22 years. In the past 10 years, he says he has performed 50 to 60 exorcisms. “I am a full-time pastor and this is a very intense ministry. Almost every free night that I have is taken up with exorcisms,” he said.

SwordDancer #fundie forums.narutofan.com

I just don't undestand why people believe evolution, as in macro-evolution, is the more logical answer when no one has even seen it happen or truly 100% prove it. In science, everything that has been proven can happen anyday, like chemical science, physics, and even biology to an extent. Macro-evolution because then you would see it and even logically, it's far-fetched and requires even MORE faith than creation. Micro-evolution is true because it deals with genetics and it has shown to be true since it explains how someone grows or adapts and the Bible does not go against it at all (Surprising, isn't it?).

To me, it seems people only want to believe in macro-evolution is because it allows them not to believe in God, basically gives them some sort of reason to not believe in God, and I believe that it's childish.

Josh Greenberger #fundie associatedcontent.com

According to the Bible's account of Creation, God did not create man and woman as infants and wait for them to grow up. God did not create the first plants and animals in early stages and wait for them to mature. Why should cosmic rays have been any different? For God to have waited billions of years for cosmic rays to reach their intended destinations would have been inconsistent with the rest of Creation. Thus, for cosmic rays to have been created in a "state of arrival" should not seem that far-fetched.

Besides, can you imagine God creating an entire universe in six days and then waiting billions of years just for cosmic rays to fly across the universe? Sounds a little absurd.

Of course, when considering an act of Creation of an entire universe, there is another possibility. During the Six Days of Creation all the laws of nature, as we know them, were obviously not yet in place. The fact that light travels at the speed of light is only a law of nature in our completed universe. It is quite conceivable that before all the laws of nature were put into place light travelled at a far greater speed than it does in today's universe. Consequently, a distance which may take many light-years for light to traverse today may have taken only seconds during Creation. Was this really that complicated for this scientist to figure out?

[He goes on for six pages, denying the Big Bang, black holes, antimatter, and insinuating a global scientific conspiracy]

Kathryn Nester #fundie rawstory.com

Polygamist leader Lyle Jeffs has escaped his home confinement — but his lawyer thinks there’s a possible supernatural explanation for it.

Salt Lake City news station Fox 13 reports that Jeffs’s defense attorney Kathryn Nester submitted a filing in court this week explaining that she is, at the moment, unable to contact her client. She then proceeded to explain that she had no idea what had become of him and speculated on some far-fetched scenarios to explain his disappearance.

“As this Court is well aware, Mr. Jeffs is currently not available to inform his counsel whether or not he agrees to the Continuance,” she wrote. “Whether his absence is based on absconding, as oft alleged by the Government in their filings, or whether he was taken and secreted against his will, or whether he experienced the miracle of rapture is unknown to counsel.”

Jeffs, who is the leader of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (FLDS), has been charged for his role in a food stamp fraud and money laundering scheme. He escaped his pre-trial home confinement this past June and has not been heard from since.

Navaros #fundie imdb.com

Tonight I was watching an old Stallone film called Cobra that I picked up in the Walmart bargain bin for 5 bucks a year or two ago but never bothered to watch until now.

I was pretty bored by what seemed like a very dumb plot...a huge cult of psycho killers committing tons of murders yet the police thought it was just one man and had no knowledge whatsoever of this cult's existence in their own city. It was way too far-fetched to believe. Plus, it didn't even make sense what the motivations of the cultists were, as this was unexplained for most of the movie other than to say they wanted a "New World Order".

But then something very interesting happened at the end...the psycho serial killer cult leader said: "We kill the weak so that the strong survive!" and then I instantly thought of this board and darwinism and how that character was pretty much doing exactly what you all believe darwinism can and should do.

From then on I could no longer see this as just a dumb movie, but had to realize how disturbing it is that something like this could actually happen because what the character said is completely in line with the darwinist mindset, and being a darwinist is so common these days that no one would even notice for quite a while when they start getting together and acting on all their darwinist beliefs.

Which brings me to my question: darwinists, do you relate to the villain from the Stallone film Cobra?

Anon #sexist fstdt.com

Just Along For The Ride


Fine, as soon as women drop the 'men are sex-hungry, mindless rapist pigs' ethic. And really, how are you supposed to flirt if now more than ever a woman can get you thrown in jail with ease (cuz' we #believewomen) if you so much as look at her wrong? I know incels are delusional dickheads, but unfortunately the notion that males are increasingly discriminated against while women get a free pass on more or less everything is not all that far-fetched. You can see it wherever you look...sexist jokes against women? Huge taboo. Sexist jokes against men? A-okay, encouraged even. Men being shallow and entitled? How dare they. Women being shallow and entitled? They're strong and independent who refuse to bow to the patriarchy. So on and so forth. It's just that nobody is willing to discuss this in a mature way, because as soon as a male brings it up, he's immediately drowned out by a chorus of 'AH THE WIDDLE MANBABY IS UPSET ABOUT NOT GETTING HIS PEEPEE WET' and 'oh, you're no longer free to harass women without consequences, poor you'. And if a woman brings it up (which very rarely happens, because let's not beat around the bush, most women are more than happy to milk their eternal victim status coupled with their newfound priviliges for all it's worth), she's labeled and 'internalised misogyinist' and 'gender traitor'. This whole gender war stopped being about equality a long, long time ago. Now it's pretty much all about female supremacy.

#1vaderfan #fundie forums.starwars.com

[Fundie was asked to describe punctuated equilibrium]


I've heard that they say, that due to a radiation exposure, it alters the DNA so when they reproduce, they could reproduce a new species because the DNA is slightly unstable. they use this to explain why there are "gaps" in the fossil record. I call this idea a little far-fetched.

lowki2 #conspiracy abovetopsecret.com

I was a Gray Alien in past life

I ascended when I was a pirate through negative love (acceptance) of my fellow pirates.

I've had three incarnations,
the first I was a male miner of sorts using a relatively unsuccessful hybrid,
I died early as a counsel decided that the host body was causing me too much pain.

Then I incarnated as a female genetic engineer,
I participated in some food lathering orgies in my spare time.

My first two life times I spent underground,
the mining one I was mainly in tunnels,
where as the genetic engineer female I spent mostly under ground buildings.

Then I incarnated as a space ship helper "android" gray alien,
I had Nordic Orion masters,
but I rarely looked much above their waist,
I was getting my orders from a higher ranking gray group leader.

I died in the soviet union in the early 80's from a rifle wound to the chest,
reincarnated as a homo-sapien.
To help we with you ascend.

I can still interact with the gray hive mind -- either directly or through memory.
So if you have any questions about Gray alien society feel free to ask.

Dr. Sha #conspiracy z7.invisionfree.com

Recently on the forums of a loacal game store that I go to I saw a member post this.

"Gentlemen, ladies, whoever may find themselves reading this, you have heard correctly. The end times are quickly descending upon our meek Earth, and I feel it is my duty to post a warning that times will soon become a lot more dangerous. With current world affairs, terror, and other global issues, we are on are way to MAD, as you know, Mutually Assured Destruction. August 22 is a highly important religious holiday to the Muslim people, and the leader of the nation of Iran, under scrutiny for pursuing nuclear weapons, has announced that on August 22, their holiday, that Iran would "answer all of the world's questions about their nuclear intentions". In fact, Iran wishes to create massive destruction on a global level, killing everyone in the process, even themselves, in hopes of driving their prophet Muhammad to return to Earth. We cannot be sure of their intentions, but it is not totally far-fetched to believe that this year,
2006, could begin the end of the world. I do not post this for laughs, jokes, to create debate, or any other nonsense. I post this as a warning to all."

And then not very sure if he was joking or not I did some research and found some interesting links. http://www.theconservativevoice.com/article/16862.html
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread67772/pg1

S.D. Wells #conspiracy #wingnut #quack naturalnews.com

Get ready America to be microchipped with electronic transmitters that communicate with drones, military police and the medical industrial complex. Have you been vetted by a drone at your front door yet? Why aren’t you answering your door, are you a terrorist or some patriot rebel-‘rouser? You are now under surveillance due to your continued use of “hate speech” on social media, and it’s time for your state-mandated, CDC-sequestered vaccination, including GPS-tracking chip. Don’t worry though, it’s just for your own safety and well-being. We need to know everywhere you go, always, forever more. That’s all. Nothing to see here. Move on.

Yes, top-secret electronic transmitters communicate with drones, telling drones to attack the chip inside the vaccinated “pathrai” (human tracer or just terrorist bait) as used by Barrack Hussein Obama and the CIA, embedded in the Taliban higher-ups, in order to track and kill al-Qaida leaders, plus their cohort terrorists. It was a “catch and release” program — the same thing Bill Gates and George Soros will have done to every schmuck in America that gets the Covid-19 vaccine, and beyond.

Did you vote for Trump, again? You are a dissident, in need of re-education at a FEMA camp (where they have millions of coffins already purchased and stacked, ready for the masses). If you fail to show up, the vaccine chip can be homed in on by drones and killing machines, because you’ve all been tagged, like cattle. Remember, they laughed at George Orwell when he wrote 1984 and the whole damn movie pretty much came true and is happening right now.

We DO live in a police state that records our every move, word, email, text, post.

We DO live in a police state world that’s erasing history and rewriting it to fit a Marxist, nightmarish agenda.

We DO live in a police state where child “protective” services steals children who aren’t vaccinated, or who didn’t get enough chemotherapy, and sells them into the slave trade. It’s called medical kidnapping and it happens here all the time.

You may feel like these vaccine scenarios are a bit far-fetched, but what you don’t know is most of them are being designed in labs right now, and will be fast-tracked through CDC and FDA approval. People really are being micro-chipped right now. Check and see. The vaccine microchip is coming, it’s just a matter of how soon.

Is this really the NEAR FUTURE of vaccines?
Soon, after everyone is micro-chipped with tracker technology that’s synced with your political party voting habits, that’s linked to your medical information, your gun ownership information, your vaccine history, after all of that, there WILL BE more lock-downs, more starvation, more desolation, more death, more riots, more unemployment, more deadly novel diseases, and it won’t stop.

Smaller government cells (think Democrat Mayors and Governors) will have a local activation control “mother board” for vaccine chip death switches, so if, say 500 people are protesting against the tyranny, they can activate all 500 people to die. Maybe broadcast the mass murder of dissidents on pay per view, to raise money for the next election, and to keep the dictatorship in place forever.

Vance Ferrell, William Corliss #fundie evolution-facts.org

[Creationist Plate Tectonics]

Evolutionists declare that at some earlier time in earth history the continents were all joined together. Citing certain evidence which they believe indicates this, they have decided that the continents moved into their present locations from a mythical, single massive continent. This theory is called "continental drift."

The outstanding evidence for continental drift is the manner in which the coastal outline of eastern South America appears to somewhat match that of the west coast of Africa. Other continental outline matches have also been devised, but, as a rule, they require greater stretches of the imagination to work out. Continental match may not sound like very outstanding scientific evidence, especially since continents have to be twisted around a bit to make them even partly match. But this remains one of the best evidences that the continental drift advocates have to offer.

Flood geology can explain continental match quit adequately—and without having to resort to far-fetched ideas of continents traveling sideways thousands of miles! Prior to the Flood there were only broad rivers and shallow seas. The continents were close together and joined at that earlier time, except for shallow, river—like, narrow seas which may have been between them. As the seas filled and continents rose, some of these original outlines may have remained in match—just as the two sides of a river will match in outline. Matching of continental borders has been a primary reason why continental drift was initially accepted by scientists. But *Corliss explains that the "matching coastlines" proof is no proof at all.

"Continental Drift, once anathema and now enshrined, faces scores of technical objections. To illustrate one class of objections, it has been noted that many continents fit together well regardless of where they now 'float.' Australia, for example, We wall info the U.S. East Coast Like evolution, Continental Drift seems to explain too many things too superficially." —*William Corliss, Unknown Earth: A Handbook of Geologic Enigmas (1980)

Fortifying The Family #fundie fortifyingthefamily.com

What is premarital kissing? For the purpose of my argument, premarital kissing is engaging in that kind of kissing with someone other than one's spouse which is inappropriate with a sibling, in activity and motive. What is the purpose of such kissing? Some would say that it is a legitimate display of affection between a couple who is courting or (horrors) dating. But let's face it, it is not merely an innocent display of affection. It is a display of passion. See definition above. It is rather far-fetched to deny the intimate and emotional nature of a kiss. You would not kiss your mom or dad in the same way you kiss your wife or husband. If you're arguing for that type of kissing before marriage, no argument here. It's ok after marriage, too. But I am speaking of the type which is unique to a husband/wife relationship and imitators thereof. "If you wanna know if he really loves you so, it's in his kiss"?

W. F. Price #fundie the-spearhead.com

Ross Douthat, the NY Times’ token youngish conservative, came out today with an op-ed provocatively titled “Social Liberalism as Class Warfare.” This is a theme I’ve been hitting on a lot recently because I think it’s an overlooked but nonetheless very important component of politics in the US. Douthat, in his usual roundabout, overly-sensitive and borderline deferential way (I wouldn’t count on that kind of kid glove treatment from the other side), argues that the values espoused by upper class elites are toxic to the middle and working classes.

In his piece, he addresses an argument made by Randy Waldman, who called efforts to resurrect traditional marriage a “cargo cult” (you see, Mr. Douthat, these are not very nice people), and points out that while socially liberal norms may work fine for those with plenty of money and connections, they have had disastrous consequences for the rest of us.

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Obviously, they do not have the greater good at heart. Their clear hatred for the majority bears this out. As a resident of a deep blue city filled with people with elite pretensions, the viciousness toward anyone not on board with the socially-liberal, politically correct message is right out in the open. Unabashed, naked hostility toward dissenting points of view and advocacy for traditional values is what passes for progressivism in Seattle. No “live and let live” here… But I’ll let Douthat make his point.

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Ah, there’s that word “meritocracy” again. Am I still the only one who fails to see the merit in these people’s values and lifestyle?

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Here’s where Douthat constructs something of a strawman on behalf of social liberals. He’s saying, essentially, that there’s no conspiracy at work, and that they do in fact sincerely hold the beliefs they profess even if they don’t act on them. Well, this may be true, but you don’t need a conspiracy to explain a collective effort to do harm. There’s a much simpler explanation: malice.

These meritocrats just don’t like us. That’s why they use terms like “cargo cult” to explain our values. That’s why they instinctively take positions that are the exact opposite of ours. When they push policies that harm their lessers, it’s because it makes them feel good to see us brought low. Maybe some people think this is a far-fetched explanation, but who can deny that hostility toward outgroups is a fundamentally human characteristic?

Anonymous Gossiper #conspiracy givemegossip.com

I was a Gray Alien in past life

I ascended when I was a pirate through negative love (acceptance) of my fellow pirates.

I've had three incarnations,
the first I was a male miner of sorts using a relatively unsuccessful hybrid,
I died early as a counsel decided that the host body was causing me too much pain.

Then I incarnated as a female genetic engineer,
I participated in some food lathering orgies in my spare time.

My first two life times I spent underground,
the mining one I was mainly in tunnels,
where as the genetic engineer female I spent mostly under ground buildings.

Then I incarnated as a space ship helper "android" gray alien,
I had Nordic Orion masters,
but I rarely looked much above their waist,
I was getting my orders from a higher ranking gray group leader.

I died in the soviet union in the early 80's from a rifle wound to the chest,
reincarnated as a homo-sapien.
To help we with you ascend.

I can still interact with the gray hive mind -- either directly or through memory.

JavidanOfTheWest #fundie reddit.com

You're forgetting the fact that it was prophesied that people will mock God in the final days before He returns to prove them all wrong. The root cause of the problem is that atheists, throughout the centuries, have sought to substantiate Atheism through many means, but were always unsuccesful until Darwin's theory came about. As Dawkins wrote on page 10 of the blind watchmaker: "Darwin made it possible to be an intellectually fulfilled atheist." The problem isn't creationism; sure, creationists help keep the divide alive, but the divide itself was created by those who oppose the existence of God. Creationists are simply those who are still fighting the good fight where truth of God matters more than abandoning it to conform to the majority opinion (of the deceived).

People have appealed to science to oppose religion for the longest time. Creationism, as a concept, has also been around for a very long time. In fact, even the concept of evolution is just an ancient pagan argument placed in a modern jacket. There are ancient writings from early Christians who refuted these exact ideas way back in their time. For example, Theophilus of Antioch already stated that those who believed that we come from the stars are fools.
It's true that many scientists were religious until the last century. That changed because of Darwinism and the philosophy of reason (Reason was deified before atheism could be sustained through Darwinism).

Nowaday it's considered to be bad for your career to be religious, because people judge you as gullible and stupid, and that is not the fault of creationists. In the eyes of many, any form of belief apart from materialism is superstition. So the root cause once more isn't the creationists. The real problem is the belief that every smart person should be above religious conviction. It has nothing to do with creationists. For example, people love Jordan Peterson, and most of his videos feature at least one top comment from a guy stating something along the lines of, "I love that he is so intelligent, but how does he not apply his immense wisdom to religion and reject it?", which already reveals the notion that many people have about religion being something that no smart person should engage in.

You've been deceived into thinking that science is objective. After all, how can science be objective if it is an attempt to confirm the preconceived notion of naturalism. Creationists should be honored; not blamed and insulted. If you want to engage me, then I can also point out why the pseudoscience that Creationists oppose is really far-fetched and merely an attempt to sustain scientific atheism. Evolution is a fairy tale. Creationists are simply blamed by other Christians who, in fulfillment of 2nd Timothy chapter 3, want to appease others because they've succumbed to social pressure.

W. F. Price #fundie the-spearhead.com

Interestingly, Jones may well have been the inspiration for the rainbow flag, which flies prominently above Harvey Milk Plaza today, and thousands of others locations throughout the Western world. The history of the flag, first designed and sewed by Milk’s personal friend Gilbert Baker, is obscure (intentionally perhaps?), but Jones was fond of proclaiming himself to be head of the “rainbow family.” It is not at all far-fetched to suppose that it was Jim Jones who introduced the term to Milk and Baker, and hence the idea for the flag, which first flew in 1978, a few months before the Jonestown massacre and Milk’s assassination. Further supporting Milk’s connection with Jones is the strange and macabre fact that Milk’s ashes were mixed with grape kool-aid before being scattered into the sea.

Very little of this history makes its way into the official story. I am glad I avoided the film Milk, and not because I object to the subject matter, but because learning about the lies of omission (Jim Jones was out of the picture) would have ruined it for me. Sometimes, historians get closer to the truth than those who lived it, because they are not constrained by political loyalties, taboos, and personal concerns. Hopefully, when enough time has passed and Dianne Feinstein, Willie Brown and Jerry Brown are but memories, someone will produce a film that truly does justice to the urban political revolution of the 1970s, which was the seed out of which the contemporary progressive machine emerged.

On looking back, it seems to me that Harvey Milk, George Moscone, Dianne Feinstein and Willie Brown, despite their political achievements, remain in the shadow of Jim Jones. For all their success and determination, they were children under the same father, following a vision they didn’t come up with themselves. Dianne Feinstein and Willie Brown may have lived to see another day, but they, too, drank the kool-aid.

Michael ChristisKing #fundie books.google.com

I WEPT SORELY
As I recovered, my attention was again turned to the great throng. And I wept again as I helplessly watched millions of people passing by. marching like stubborn goats; and many, very merrily going towards that land where there is no hope, where the day never dawns and the sun never shines. I was amazed how real it was to me and how funny and far-fetched it was too many of these people. The bellows of the smoke of hell were right there on the horizon but these travelers only reasoned it away as being something else. There always seemed to be an explanation for their action although the complete opposite was the real truth. There was urgency for everything else but there was total indifference towards the woeful end that was right before them. Man in all his dignity walking like a hypnotized beast was moving towards his death. It was the death of all deaths. The death was where the dying is always dying, but never dead.
Where death is desired by the dying more than gold, but never found. "What will you do oh man at the end? When you stand stripped of all your glory and never to be clothed but only with shame and worms. What will you do when grace will never be extended to you again for all eternity? What will you do when you remember how close you were to becoming one of the glorious ones but passed up on the chance and chose vain living instead. Your pursuit was after other things and God was not important to you. Your pride and your slothfulness betrayed you.
the cares of this life and its riches deceived you." Woe. woe. woe to the inhabitants of that land for as sure as God lives and as long as He lives, there will never be hope or relief from the madness of their horror. That is the vow of the Almighty who Himself is the guarantor of His words. "Wave after wave of shocking terror will make the pitiful residents of hell know that the worst is yet to come and that their trouble is only beginning. Hell will always be only beginning. No matter how bad it gets, it is only the beginning." says the faithfulness of a holy God; 100 trillion years times 100 trillion years and to the 100 trillionth power. The lake of Fire will only be beginning". The inhabitants of it will never get used to it. Every day will feel like the first day, every day will feel like the worst day. yet the Almighty has sworn that they will never enter into His rest forever.
"Oh man. you can curse now but what will you do at the end. You can argue with God and His word now. and maybe even come out looking like a winner, but what will you do at the end.
You may laugh at the preaching of righteousness when men are called to make their hearts right with God. You call it foolish, but what will you do at the end?
You may make fun of the Word of God. the house of God, the Book of God and the people of God but what will you do at the end?
You may drink, smoke and revel all night.
You may mock those who don't go that way with you. but what will you do at the end.
You may let your passion be your lord And even let your desire be your king.
You may be driven around by your own appetite and live your life your own way but what will you do at the end?
The end is coming; the end is coming, as sure as the day follows the night and as the cutting of the flesh causes bleeding and as sure as the reaping follows the sowing, there shall be an end my friend. There will be an end.
As sure as there is a beginning, there is an end to this beginning, and there is a beginning coming that will never know an end. It will always be beginning. The chewing may be sweet to the mouth but the belly will tell a different story. The pleasures of sin, the gain and gratification from rebellion are only for a season. The end will come to every man; there is an end, and God will require back the life He gave, and He will require an account of how you lived. What will you do my friend? What will you do?
What will you do when the physician say. "it's too late we cannot help him"? What will you do when the dressers come for your shell, for the last dress-up?
What will you do when you are on display for your filing friends and family members to see for one last time?
What will you do when the box that holds your shell is sealed shut?
What will you do when the vase and the crust are covered in the dust?
Think of the end my friend. Humble yourself before the great God. your Maker and seek Him. God is God and you are man. He dwells in Heaven and you on earth. The day of His sickle is coming. The day when He separates the chaff from the wheat will be a day like no other.
If you say to yourself that these things are not true, you better be very sure. For if you are wrong and the Word of God is the Word Of God. you will lose eternally. You will be man eternal trouble. It is your decision. Make it wisely. Don't live a fool, don't die a fool. Don't let anyone make this decision for you. Though you curse their names forever, it will fix nothing. You will be on your own. No one will care and no one will comfort.
Oh man. humble yourself before your Maker and seek Him. Seek the true and living God. Seek God while He may be found. Call on Him while He is still near. Be wise and listen to Wisdom as He stands on the concourse and calls.
Oh God, have mercy on this teeming humanity.
You did not create them so you can destroy them. They are like sheep without a shepherd; confused with life, bound by ungodly and godless imaginations. They do not know their left from their right. Oh God have mercy. Have mercy oh God, have mercy. Show the same mercy and grace that you showed when you gave Jesus Christ to come and die for us on the cross. Let that mercy revisit the nations. Oh Lord bring a fresh wind of your Holy Spirit to awaken men and women to God and His will for their lives. His love for them and His plan for their redemption. Oh God. I know that many will be lost but why so many, why Lord, why so many? Oh God why such a total coldness towards you. Why? Oh God, do something about it today. Send an awakening, send a fresh wind of your Holy Spirit to blow our way, wake up the inhabitants of the earth. Oh God, Oh God have mercy, have mercy, have mercy. Oh God, Oh God have mercy, have mercy; turn the hearts of these men towards you. Oh God, forgive their iniquities and restore them to your righteousness for at death it will be forever too late. Oh God how will I pray this prayer. What else should I say to you? Oh God, I cannot do anything to get your attention to act in mercy towards them more than what your own Son has already done? Oh Lord, have mercy on these everlasting beings that you love. Your love in my heart drives me to cry out to you but I don't know what else to do. I do not love them more than you do. I cannot awaken anyone no matter how loud I shout. You can. Oh Lord, please send an awakening to your righteousness and mercy and everlasting love. Oh God have mercy, have mercy oh God.

TruthBKnown #fundie wral.com

evilelvi1, I think you just agreed with really my main point from the beginning... that atheism is a belief system in something that is equally far-fetched as belief in God. To a lot of atheists, it is not a belief system. They have simply discarded God and believe in evolution because they have to. (Without God, evolution MUST be true. How else can the world be explained?)

I don't know everything, and the dinosaur thing is a good example of something I can't explain. Sometimes I wonder why the God I believe in would put us in a world where there are alternative equally-viable theories to our existence. But then it hit me one day that without them, we couldn't truly have free will. If scientific method led us to God and nothing else, well there would be no faith, no free will. We would pretty much HAVE to believe in God. At that point it is no longer belief, but proof.

Dave Hodges #conspiracy americanholocaustcoming.blogspot.com

It is becoming apparent that Christians, and American Christians, in particular, will soon become the most hunted people on the face of the earth. The coming persecution will make the Romans persecution of the Christians seem tame compared to what is coming. DHS policies and their subsequent actions have become an effective barometer from which to judge the direction of the tyrannical takeover of our government by the central bankers and what it will ultimately mean for Christians.

DHS is lining itself up against Christians. The Army is lining up against Christians. Obama has always been against Christians. As Supreme Commander of the military, Obama has encouraged/permitted the United States military to participate in the persecution of Christians.

A recent Army briefing, given by Lt. Col. Jack Rich, to a reserve unit in Pennsylvania, identified several organizations and movements as extremist groups. First on the list of his slides presented in the briefing listed evangelical Christians and the list also included Catholics, Hamas, al-Qaeda, Nation of Islam and the Ku Klux Klan. Isn’t it comforting to realize that your government sees Catholic and evangelical Christians in the same light as Hamas, al-Qaeda and the Klan?

Lt. Col. Rich warned his subordinates to not back down from “bad Christian behavior” for “when they see behaviors which are inconsistent with Army values, don’t just walk by. Do the right thing before it becomes a problem.” What exactly constitutes “bad Christian behavior?” Is praying a bad Christian behavior?

Further, the warning has been given to flag Christians and put them on no buy lists for guns. Rich’s briefing dovetails with the same kind of anti-Christian rhetoric recently presented to Colorado law enforcement officials in La Junta, Colorado in which Christians were prominently displayed in as domestic terrorists if they take the Bible too literally. Of course Christians take the Bible literally, this is why Christians read and study the Bible. The word of God is not a comic book, it is the Bible. And as such, all Christians have just been declared to be enemies of the state. Below is a screen shot of a page out of Rich’s anti-Christian PowerPoint presentation. Please note the repeated references to various types of Christians. Interestingly, I did not see the official religion of the United Nations, GAIA, listed as a domestic terror group.

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Coptic children are forcibly being taken from their families and forced to convert to Islam. Is this a foreshadowing of a future CPS field manual which will do the same here in America? Do you think this hyperbole? Then you must not be familiar with the new CPS manual which will be used to enforce “child welfare” under Obamacare. Under Obamacare, parents can lose custody of their children if their child gets a bad grade, is absent for more than 5 days in any 30 day period, if the parent has beer in the house or if the parent is a gun owner. Therefore, how far-fetched is it for American Christians to look at themselves as the next Coptic Christians and realize that the CPS could one day come for their children merely because they are Christians?

Humanity is locked in a spiritual war. Although it is true that we must meet the enemy at the gate if we are to survive and that entails some use of physical countermeasures. However, physical realm countermeasures can only delay the inevitable. Spiritual warfare demands spiritual solutions. Rather than repeat myself, I would refer the reader to previously identified spiritual strategies in two articles I recently authored, Harnessing Quantum Entanglement is Humanity’s Secret Weapon and Humanity’s Ultimate Weapon. The concepts are scientifically verifiable and simple enough to understand. And more importantly, they work!

After reading about the spiritual weapons that mankind has at its disposal, it should be obvious as to why Christians are being targeted and being attacked with such a vengeance.

The ultimate enemy of humanity is not al-Qaeda, the Russians, the central bankers and not even Obama himself. The ultimate enemy of humanity is Satan, the great destroyer and the aforementioned groups merely serve him. These forces of evil have conscripted vast resources in the march toward enslaving and depopulating humanity. They control the physical realm. Humanity cannot defeat these forces of evil on the physical battlefield.

Humanity is approaching its metaphorical Lexington and Concord. The central bankers are seeking to disarm humanity by eradicating the Christian threat to their agenda. You see, the dark side already knows what most of us don’t yet realize, Christians have the spiritual weapons to defeat those who are destroying humanity. It’s up to you, up to me and up to all of us, to invoke the use of these spiritual weapons.

Some articles write their own conclusion and this is one of those times…

Nicole Martinez #fundie youtube.com

etvac4567:Okay, but the whole Skylanders thing is really far-fetched. They're just advanced toys that give children a whole new experience. There isn't anything brainwashing children and turning them into demons or anything random like that. I'm honestly sick of how everything is seen as 'satanic' and 'demonic'. Children are allowed to have fun with improved products that are a lot more advanced than dolls you'd have back in the day. It's like saying that nobody is free to enjoy their life, and I'm sure that's what God wants. He doesn't want people to bore ourselves by avoiding things we're told are evil. As long as if your not sinning by killing people and stuff then I don't understand the problem. And not all things lead to murder and a life of crime. People aren't influenced by the things they consume through pure children's content. As a consumer of the Skylanders franchise myself, I can confirm that these claims are absolutely ridiculous. Yes, there are witches and magic and whatever, but it's fantasy. God gifted us with imagination, and we are free to explore it. It is not a curse of some sort. Magic isn't even real, so I don't see what all of the drama about it is. I have no thoughts or opinions on the dolls, but what I do know is that I'd play Skylanders over dress up in overly girly clothes any day. Oh no, I must be corrupted!?

Nicole Martinez: Hello, I advise you to really take time to hear what is being said. This woman is giving truth concerning Satan's agenda against not only us as adults but our children. He wants to pollute and desensitize our little boys and girls with these demonic toys today. I agree with her, I wouldn't want my daughter exemplifying something that is so perverted and seductive in appearance. Definitely not a role model for kids. especially when I'm training my children to respect themselves, and enforcing godly values. I do understand that times have change and things are advancing today. But let me tell you, Satan is an ancient foe and crafty. He is not going to just appear to you in his original form of being. But rather disguises himself. He wants to hide in what is appealing to many today. That is why the word of God tells us to love not the world , nor the things that are in the world with the lust of the eyes, lust of the flesh, and the pride of life. For all that does so are not lovers of God. We are not to set our affections on these things. Nor be entangled with the affairs of this life. People who have come to know the Lord understands what is of the Lord. But those who be blind, it is because Satan of this world has blinded their eyes and cannot see truth for what it really is. And this is one of the tactics that Satan wants to use today against our children. He wants to contaminate them and steal their precious innocence while they are young. He wants to desensitize them to the truth. So when truth is presented they have no way of knowing it. And they have been polluted so much so they can't receive truth for what it is. Don't allow Satan to continue to rob you from truth because you still want to be apart of some things that are not right, nor godly. And accept what is pleasing in your eyes. Many dont realize that alot of these things we allow to come into our homes opens up a gateway for spirits to come in to harass, possess, or wreak havoc in lives because of our ignorance. Let me say this, just because we don't want to believe something isnt wrong or bad doesn't mean that it isn't. What you choose to believe or tell yourself doesn't make what has been said non effect or untrue. When truth comes you have to accept that it is truth. Everything that comes out whether media, toys, movies and etc. isn't always right, nor of God. And it doesn't matter how Satan dress it up to be. He is crafty and coning. He know how to draw you away by your own lust and enticement if you let him. Yes magic is real and also satanic. Magic is of the devil and also a form of witchcraft. Disney the magic kingdom is also demonic. That is why I'm careful to what I bring into my home and infront of my family to watch. But if you choose to be ignorant and allow these demonic toys, movies, and cartoons into your home that is on you. But truth is truth. I advise you to look it up. God doesn't want you to be in the dark. But you still have a choice. You are held accountable for your children. We must train them in the way that they should go. Not the way they want to go. We are the parents. Therefore we should be mindful over ever decision we make and allow in our children's lives.?

AV1611VET #fundie christianforums.com

Here's my take on where the Flood waters went. If it sounds too far-fetched, no problem, it's just a hypothesis (or theory, or guess, or whatever it's called):

My take on this is that the waters, which predominantly came from within the earth, went back down. As it was raining on the surface, water was also coming from below, and the people were sandwiched between the two sources.

When the rains stopped, the waters began falling back down through the holes in the earth. Sort of like a giant bathtub with many plugs that had been pulled.

Now comes the interesting part, a sort of modified Boyle's Law.
pV = k, or pressure x volume = a constant
Isaiah had something interesting to say about Hell:

Originally Posted by Isaiah 5:14
Therefore hell hath enlarged herself...

Here's the entire verse:
Isaiah 5:14
Therefore hell hath enlarged herself, and opened her mouth without measure: and their glory, and their multitude, and their pomp, and he that rejoiceth, shall descend into it.

Using Isaiah 5:14 to modify Boyle's Law gives us this:
pm = k, or pressure x mass = a constant
Since pressure (or more appropriately density) is defined as mass/volume, I conclude this:
(mass/volume) x mass = a constant, or
mass2/volume = a constant
To explain this using a simple example, let's say:
mass = 5
volume = 5
Then the constant is 5 --- (5 x 5 / 5 = 5).

However, double the mass without changing the constant, and what happens? The volume has to compensate for the change:
mass = 10
volume = ?
constant = 5
Thus 10 x 10 / ? = 5, and ? = 20.

This, then, is what Isaiah is basically saying:
As Hell acquires more mass, it enlarges to compensate for its temperature.
Now back to the Flood:

Everyone on earth died except for 8 people, and Hell "super-enlarged" to compensate for the large influx of souls, and the expanding diameter could have engulfed the water reservoirs.

Just a pet theory of mine --- submitted for "peer review".

p.s. The only problem I see with this, is that Christianity teaches that Hell is not a constant temperature, but is in fact, a tiered structure, being hotter in the lower levels.

Pastor Mark Downey #racist kinsmanredeemer.com

How many Christians are aware of the appalling estimate of 100,000 children missing each year? Thousands are murdered with the blood drained from their little bodies. The jewish people are entirely capable and complicit in committing this dastardly deed. The immense weight of historical evidence conclusively points to the repetitive psyche of murder in the jewish soul for Jesus Christ and everything Christian. How many of the innocent youngsters you see on milk cartons have fallen prey to the ceremonial knives of rabbis and lie buried in secret graves or were ground up into dog food in some jewish-owned processing plant? This all may sound unthinkable and outlandishly far-fetched to the cognitive dissonant mind that has been conditioned to eagerly accept the mythos of 6 million gas-bag jews turning into ash, after 60 years of Pavlovian movies, books and TV. It would be quite another story if these medias were not owned and/or controlled by jews. You would be hearing about the greatest murder plot against humanity in the history of the world.

OverTheFalls #fundie onenewsnow.com

Say a state permits gay marriage, AND permits 15 year olds, with permission to marry from parents.

Now, a 40 yr old convicted pedophile man legally marries a 15 yr old boy in that state.

Is that state-sponsored/sanctioned pedophilia, which normally would be a felony?

Should all states honor the marriage, benefits, etc?

Would NAMBLA condone relationships like this?

Nothing will be prohibited including Sharia law multiple wives w/permitted canings; where can this end: Mormons demanding their religious rights to polygamy as well as crazies insisting on tying knots with good old mom and dad. None of that seems so far-fetched now.

We are on a very slippery slope and Target is helping push society down that muddy precipice.

Anonymous Gossiper #conspiracy givemegossip.com

I Need Your Thoughts: What is This New Agenda REALLY About?

Last night on the world news there was a segment about how new tires being sold to the public can be up to a decade old...right off the shelf.

Now our government wants to make everyone register their new tires. They say that they are concerned about the publics' health and safety, which raises an immediate red flag (with me). Since when have they cared about the publics' health OR safety??

So I was wondering about just what the true Agenda is.
Are new tires going to, or do they already, have a little satellite pack on the inside of the tire with its own code...so that when people speak out against the Elite "they" just send a message to that device and BOOM....your tire blows out and you wreck, possibly being killed? I know that this may seem far-fetched, but let's face it, the Elite spend more time trying to figure out new ways to kill us than they do trying to help and protect us.

You know, the simple solution to this problem is to make the tire dealers take inventory of their stock, have them periodically check the dates of their tires to see when they were made (which is on every tire), and if these tires reach a certain age without being sold, then send them back to be recycled. Hell, isn't this why we have "sell by" dates on our food products? So why not just do the same with these new tires?? Right out of the factory have each tire stamped with a sell-by date. This would be so much easier, but instead the government wants US to register our new tires.

I smell a rat, but I can't quite figure out what this rat's up to. This is why I would like to hear from others.

Chris #conspiracy answers.yahoo.com

The missing link will not be found soon - because it is out of the realm of "natural evolution" and thus science will continue to grope in the dark assuming a link has yet to be found.....

We were created genetically by another advanced species, and the closest scientists have come to this knowledge is the discovery that all blue eyed people possibly share a common ancestor.

There is no steady progression to humanity - there was no bridge to homo-sapien - this was done artificially.....

Anonymous Coward #conspiracy godlikeproductions.com

Cro Magnon: Tall Blonde Blue Eyed Nephilim Aliens

About 50,000 to 15,000 years ago, something odd occurred in the evolution of homo sapiens: a new and different kind of modern human with supreme, gifted intelligence appeared almost magically and began evolving beside Neanderthal man in Europe and the Middle East.

Scientists cannot find the "Missing link", i.e. the form that was an immediate ancestor of the original Homo Sapiens, who, like I mentioned above, mysteriously appeared around 50'000-25'000 years ago, referred to as the Cro-Magnon man; while they found and continue finding remains of many less advanced forms that existed much time before such as Homo heidelbergensis and Homo rhodesiensis.

While scientists agree something happened to dramatically alter the human creature 50,000 to 15,000 years ago, leading him quite suddenly from a stone tool hunter--gatherer-wandering furry semi-primate tree and cliff dwelling society towards a supreme, gifted intelligence, monogamous-pair bonded-law-making-technologically oriented spaceward-looking society, they cannot, of course, agree on what the event was.

Without Cro-Magnon genes today we would all still be living in mud huts and practicing hunter-gatherer lifestyles like that in Africa and the Amazon. Cro-Magnon's descendents are responsible for the evolution of farming, the Mega cities, the pyramids, the great scientists and the great technological advances. All are from European Cro-Magnon descendents.

Simple theory. The White race are the descendents of the White Annunaki/Nordic Aliens.

The black and asian races were created by the Annunaki/Nordic Aliens by genetically manipulating the DNA of older sapiens present in Africa and Asia at the time. c.f. Homo Rhodesiensis of Africa, Homo Erectus of Asia.

It is no mistake that countless ancient civilisations and cultures like the ancient Mayans, Egyptians and Indians (Indus Valley Indians) around the world depict their Kings and Queens as "fair" while their slaves as "black". It is why light skinned people in Africa and Asia are of Noble rank, it is why the Negroid man lusts for the light skinned fmeales of his own race or the North European blonde female.

On top of that, the White Cro-Magnon race burn their skin easily in sunlight, carry more birth defects and are responsible for many modern diseases, indicating the fact their habitat on Earth is not natural to them, and that they/we are still adopting to our adopted planet.

Those who don't believe and say that the white skin colour is due to the lack of sunlight in cold temperate regions, I only point to the eskimo and innuit people who technically have lived in the arctic regions for tens of thousands of years and yet are brown skinned and dark eyed.

Othmar #racist stormfront.org

Since you asked for politeness, I won't make any comments about your typically female attention-whoring. Let's begin with point A :

Race is not only skin color. Race consists of all inherited (expressed or recessive) characteristics that are commonly found in a given human (or animal) subgroup and are therefore distinctive. A common lie of anti-racist propagandists consists in reducing race to skin color so as to make it appear as something superficial and unessential; but actually, there are considerable race differences in intelligence and character (due to gene differences between races) which are reflected in human history and in the daily life of multiracial societies. That's why we are racist.

Intelligence lies mainly in genes and to a small extent in environment. Genes, including intelligence genes, are not randomly distributed, and that's why there are race differences in intelligence.

According to the evolution theory, we've once had the same skin color (even though there is a controversy regarding the exact timing of the separation of homo sapiens races, some believe that they evolved from already separated homo erectus races and some believe that we all came out of Africa as homo sapiens). But anyway; according to the same theory, a long time ago, our ancestors were not even humans, they were animals. Should this mean that we should not care whether a living being is an animal or a human? Should we advocate equality between humans and animals, and even legalize consensual human-animal sex? It just doesn't make sense.

Evolution doesn't take place through "parenting" (there is no such thing as a hereditary memory) but through :

- natural selection (the weakest die, those with a specific characteristic which make them better adapted to their environment survive).
- sexual selection (those who mate transmit their characteristics to their offspring, those who don't mate do not).

Nowadays, natural selection in humans is weakening due to technological progress but sexual selection still takes place (in the wrong direction, as stupid people tend to have more children).

Because there is no such thing as inherited moral standards (notwithstanding the fact that morality is subjective and volatile), even though people from different races do TEND to behave and think differently (with exceptions on the margin).

Groups based on inheritance are relevant because when you build a house, you want to give it to your children, to those who share your blood and not to some aliens sharing your "moral standards" or even your "intelligence".

This is due to biological imperatives (living beings seek to perpetuate themselves), hence the fact that our racism is based on inheritance-based groups (for example : White people) rather than strictly characteristic-based groups (for example : all intelligent people). Otherwise, our racism would be purely idealistic, without a grasp on reality. But if we seized the power, we would try to develop positive characteristics such as intelligence in White people through an eugenics agenda.

To make people more intelligent, there is nothing better than deporting non-Whites, since they are far less intelligent than Whites on average. The next step is eugenics among whites themselves.

As a matter of fact, one of the main vectors of epidemias is immigration (as we can see with the current ebola epidemia in West Africa)...

dogs #fundie faithfreedom.org

[Vatican says will excommunicate women priests]

Long ago when homo sapiens entered the lands inhabited by the neanderthals, they encountered a creature that was bigger, faster, stronger, and more intelligent. For the age, the neanderthal was also more technologically advanced. What we had that they lacked was 'gender specific labor specialization'. And so it was,, we won. And they are no longer here.

Catholics may be backward, but they refuse to take part in the neanderthalization of the first world. This verges on a crisis in Europes case as they now encounter a new migration of peoples into their lands. A people very determined, completely virile, and quintessentialy homo sapien.

Lucius L Bultman Sr. #fundie chronicle.augusta.com

Much has been printed lately concerning evolution with an equivalent number of suggested reading materials to assist parents in rearing their offspring. Each time creation draws the short straw. Evolutionists prefr their creed by far. Their belief forms, for me, an image of this mass wandering aimlessly around in space and over many eons evolving into a blob

Later this blob collides with a huge, spinning, solid object - and it continues evolving, but in joint-venture. Then in time, supposedly, though some cosmic accident, the solid object evolves into a sphere, and through metamorphosis the blob evolves through various shapes and sizes, one of them evolving into the monkey which, eventually, evolves into Homo erectus, then Homo Sapiens.

This may make sense to some, but not to me. I, for one, prefer the biblical account of man's appearance on this planet. It is simple. It is concise.

"God said: Let us make Man in our image." (Genesis 1:26,27) I cannot sit back and let anyone make a monkey out of my God!

While the evolutionists are at it, let them put their theories in a test tube, then add some hydrochloric acid. Ask them: Will the result evolve into everlasting happiness or an eternal, infernal, sizzling burn?

Some TERFs #sexist reddit.com

Re: Where Does Organized Male Evil Come From?

I just got finished reading this article about the rapes of Rohingya women and the persecution and slaughter of their people: http://www.thejournal.ie/rohingya-rape-3745266-Dec2017/

I know it's not uplifting to read this stuff, but it's also important not to turn away.

I want to know what causes such organized male evil. It doesn't matter whether it's a dispute over territory or religion or ethnicity, it is men who do this in an organized fashion. It has always been men.

Is it as simple as "patriarchy?" Silvia Federici's Caliban and the Witch describes the creation of capitalist evil through the weaponization of men and male sexuality, the formal institution of patriarchy, the enslavement of women, and the colonial/imperial ventures of the new world order.

Although it's true almost no corner of the human world has gone untouched by the Western project of colonialism and imperialism, other cultures have their own ancient histories of warfare, bloodshed and male rule that predate Western history.

I know the advent of agriculture and the dawn of land ownership have been cited as the reason for growing institutionalization of patriarchy and subjugation of women and expansion of territory--but really--I struggle to understand how men can commit such horrific atrocities in an organized fashion. If women ruled the world, would we do this? Would we?

I have never given much credence to notions of biological determinism and I still don't; if men are like this by dint of nature as well as nurture the power of human socialization can change them. So far is has mainly been used to cement these violent, hierarchical tendencies it seems.

I just never used to believe there could be this fundamental difference between men and women where under the right circumstances men could join together to commit such atrocities in a way that women wouldn't. Is it because women have been stripped of their power that we don't see them band together to exercise it in such horrific fashion? Or is there really a fundamental, biological difference between us that makes men more susceptible to committing violence?

I also struggle with the connection between sex and committing violence so often seen within cultures and among mostly male individuals across the world. Is it male or is it masculine?

(anxietyaccount8)
No it's not just as simple as patriarchy. I once believed that but now I don't. Men really are just more violent than women. Male sexuality is also very different than female sexuality (in general) and I don't think anybody could have socialized me into being interested in some of the crazy things they are interested in.

I think that the reason a lot of people dismiss these claims is because they are reminded of evolutionary psychology, which for the most part is not very scientific at all. But the thing is that just because things like "women are naturally better at cooking" are BS it doesn't mean that everything that sounds like evopsych is wrong. For example we know that male and female animals act differently. We know that males and females have different body types, hormone levels, and different ways of reproducing. Would it really be so insane to suggest there are mental differences too?

Now to be fair, I am not really sure if this is true, and none of us will be sure unless we have substantial evidence, but this is my personal theory. It just feels really obvious to me.

(Unabashed_Calabash)
This was my point to another poster. To what extent can the behavior of other mammals, including our closest relatives chimpanzees and bonobos (pygmy chimpanzees) be interpreted to reflect on our own?

Not only the male correlation of sex and violence but specifically the far greater incidence of male sexual fetishes (about the same as the disproportionate ratio of male vs. female violence, 10 to 1) causes me to believe there's something more than socialization going on here. Scientists who study human sexuality say it has to do with a more intense focus from males as a group on sexuality in general, heightening fetishes. But how often do you hear of women who like to pretend to be baby boys and wear diapers? (Seriously?) And like to be burped and breastfed and rocked to sleep? (I would really like formal studies of how often these bizarre fetishes occur in males as compared to females. I wouldn't necessarily say it's a result of porn and therefore male domination arising from social reasons because how much of porn is men pretending to be infant girls and breastfeed? Please don't tell me).

I am not saying this to be in favor of gender or against it. "Gender" as we know it is a social construct. Any innate evolutionary differences in the sexes--say, of violent vs. pacifist, or systematizing (from, say, hunting more often than women in most prehistoric societies) vs. integration (from the greater social relations of gathering and building)--need not be our fate if detrimental. We are highly social animals almost entirely at the whim of our socialization, which has been civilizing in some respects but in others greatly lacking.

I agree that just because evolutionary psychology has become a crutch of sexist males it does not mean absolutely none of it is true. It's more important than ever we separate the wheat from the chaff.

(anxietyaccount8)
Right, and it's important that people recognize radical feminism's criticism of gender actually does not contradict this existence of innate differences. We are all born into a society where we have to follow prescribed gender roles, and this social construct bleeds into all aspects of our lives and causes differences of its own. If some differences are innate this social construction makes them much more prominent and worse.

Also it doesn't mean that there is a distinct male or female brain, or that trans people really do have the brain of the opposite sex. Even if, hypothetically, a trans woman did actually act in ways that women are biologically supposed to, they are just proving that there is variation and a male can be that way too.

(Unabashed_Calabash)
Lol at the downvotes. I also don't understand how butthurt men get about this subject. It is quite clearly true (unless you prefer "violence" to "evil" because you don't believe in imposing moral values on human actions), and I am merely asking why and where it comes from.

Humanity will never change until men reckon with their own and their fellow men's actions.

(bigoltreehugger)
Ew. So many men came in caping for other men in response. I miss the days when this sub didn't have as many dudes hanging around. I'm sorry I can't engage your question properly but I just wanted to say that I've always appreciated your input on this sub.

(descending_wisdom)
fundamental biological differences. Sexual selection theory easily explains male violence. Watch some videos on organized warfare in some troops of chimpanzees.

(sunscreenonface)
Gonna leave this write up from notcisjustwoman here:

"Patriarchy pre-dates both the agricultural revolution and hunter-gatherer societies, because the basis of the oppression of women, indeed the very basis for oppression itself, is rape.

Male animals have been raping female animals since before the first humans, or even the first primates, appeared on earth. Events like the agricultural revolution codified male oppression of women into a more organized system, and religion has evolved over time to become an enforcer and moralizer of male violence, but neither of things things created patriarchy. Patriarchy began the first time a man raped a woman, and instead of being beaten to death by her tribal/family group, he was rewarded with fathership of her children.

It’s not comfortable even for most radical feminists to see this full and complete scope of the history of patriarchy, because it means that things are much more complicated than mere socialization, but it is a brutal truth we must confront in our analysis."

To expand upon this, here's a previous write up I did once I'd read notcisjustwoman's blog:

"I don't think this will make anyone feel better, but I've recently been thinking a lot about the various species of animals across this earth that have been known to rape...and it turns out most animal species have some form of rape. Ducks, squirrels, dolphins, dogs, gorillas, etc. all have observable males who rape and aggress females.

I don't think it's a stretch to say that aggressive males who rape will pass on their aggressive traits to their offspring that are conceived via rape. I don't think it's a stretch to say that male homo sapiens might be more likely to aggress and rape females since they inherited a tendancy towards violence from their male ancestors who were conceived via rape. (Reminder: I could be completely wrong about this!)

Does this make rape ok? NO!!!! Even if rape and aggressive sexual behavior is 'natural', 'natural' does not instantly equal something good or beneficial for a species. Homo sapiens dying of tooth decay at 22 is quite natural, but it's horrific and traumatizing for everyone involved.

All I'm saying is my understanding of men's GLOBAL and CONSTANT violence toward women became easier to understand once I started to think about sexual violence as an issue often found in primate species and not as something completely 100% culturally-bound.

Here's a link to a tumblr write-up that spawned my thoughts on this: http://notcisjustwoman.tumblr.com/post/175761393959/what-is-good-for-the-gander-is-not-always-good-for#notes

(Unabashed_Calabash)
I've read about the extremely complex history of rape among animals of all kinds (they have highly evolved methods of rape--an actual sexual arms race between males and females, as females also evolved to try to avoid rape--in fact, some believe the reason we walk upright is because women first stood up to avoid greater vulnerability to gang rape from behind, and that these gang rapes were so violent many of the females of our prehistoric ancestors who did not stand up did not survive). The species in which pair-bonding and good fatherhood are the norm are not the norm.

There's a reason that male sperm in all species is a complex chemical cocktail. In humans it's designed to lull/drug the mate and bond females to males even at their own expense.

My gut feeling and experiences tell me notjustciswoman is right.

There's a reason rape as committed by men is so normalized and also so easy for men to commit. Behavioral scientists have discussed the not-so-mythical "rape switch" and posited that all or most men have one.

Reading stories of men's mass raiding/raping parties, I'm inclined to agree. (My own experience aligns with this as well. I have actually witnessed a man struggle with his own desire to rape when confronted with a woman highly vulnerable to it. He had a low "rape threshold" certainly, but I don't actually think it's all that unusual. I think human men--because human beings can feel remorse and regret--may struggle with what they have done or the harm they have caused, if society or the victim force them to reflect on this, but they still did it and wanted to do it anyway). Neither the normalization of rape nor its prevalence despite official messages all over the world that it's wrong would be so common if rape were not somehow natural to the males of this species.

I remember an author saying "we cannot deal with violence until we admit uncomfortable truths, such as the thrill of war." The same is true of rape/sexual abuse; there's no way we can combat it without understanding it, and understanding why some men like to do it even when it's officially discouraged, or why men as a class can be easily encouraged to commit it under the right circumstances, is, I think, important if we ever hope to combat it.

(And yes, the history of conquest and invasion in our species is the history of rape. There's a reason so many men in the world carry the same Y chromosome).

Nedarbi #fundie panheads.org

yah sometimes scientist come up with this lame evidence. i personally am shocked that people actually believe in evolution. think for a second guys. think of all the evidence supporting evolution that scientist have said either through tv or newspapaers or whatever. now after you have all of it in your heads think about how FAR FETCHED and IMPOSSIBLE it all sounds and IS. i think that when people believe in evolution it is just themselves denigning god and trying to escape him. the simple conclusion that i can see is that evolution is just to far fetched of a theory for any one to truly believe

Alfred Lambremont Webre #conspiracy exopolitics.blogs.com

Regarding the development of Homo sapiens by a consortium or council of advanced intelligent upper-dimensional extraterrestrial and inter-dimensional civilizations including Pleiadians and Sirians, Ms. Cori states in her book No More Secrets, No More Lies,

“Intensive studies were made of the existing environments of Earth – the distinctive plant and animal kingdoms – and detailed investigations were conducted into how bio-diversity resulted as a reflection of various geographical and climatic variables. It was discerned that such diversity would provide ideal conditions for the seeding of extraterrestrial species, as their original environments could, in many ways, be replicated in the ecosystems of Earth.”

“Unexplained in your archeological and missing-link evolutionist theorist is the isolated emergence upon your planet of four distinct seed races. These are archetypes of master races whose fundamental genetic material formed the primary ‘substance’ of your race, while the vibrational patterns and sequencing of extra-dimensional beings (those of higher realms) were woven into the intricate light codes of your incredible twelve-stranded DNA. “The genetic material of these four primary races [Editor - black, red, yellow, and white] was united into the blueprint of the species of Homo sapiens.”

Ms. Cori’s conclusions, which are derived inter-dimensionally, are congruent with the conclusions of researchers working with the Human Genome Project. One report states, “A group of researchers working at the Human Genome Project indicate that they made an astonishing scientific discovery: They believe so-called 97% non-coding sequences in human DNA is no less than genetic code of extraterrestrial life forms. The non-coding sequences are common to all living organisms on Earth, from moulds to fish to humans. In human DNA, they constitute larger part of the total genome, says Prof. Sam Chang, the group leader.

“Non-coding sequences, originally known as ‘junk DNA’, were discovered years ago, and their function remained a mystery. The over-whelming majority of Human DNA is ‘Off-world’ in origin. The apparent ‘extraterrestrial junk genes’ merely ‘enjoy the ride’ with hard working active genes, passed from generation to generation. After comprehensive analysis with the assistance of other scientists, computer programmers, mathematicians, and other learned scholars, Professor Chang had wondered if the apparently “junk Human DNA’ was created by some kind of ‘extraterrestrial programmer’. The alien chunks within Human DNA, Professor Chang further observes, ‘have its own veins, arteries, and its own immune system that vigorously resists all our anti-cancer drugs.’”

Bob Enyart #fundie kgov.com

* DNA Doesn't Lie! Neanderthals were MAN: Now that geneticists have sequenced the entire Neanderthal genome, they have proved wrong many of the world's leading evolutionists who had long claimed that Neanderthals were not Homo sapiens. [Update: Of course this corroborates Dr. Jack Cuozzo's creation-based findings from two decades earlier!] The young age of the earth, and that life had to be specially created because it is information based, prove that Man was specially created and that there never was such a thing as an ape/human ancestor. Now, DNA proves that Neanderthal men and women were fully man, that is, they were Homo sapiens, because along with many other indicators, genetically they are closer to modern humans than two living chimps of the same species are to one another!

lowkeylifted #conspiracy godlikeproductions.com

My speculation on an interesting topic. (Annunaki, Nibiru, Vril, Nazi Scientists, Wormwood)

I have long sense known about Planet X. I started researching way before the whole 2012 phenomenon, the problem is when people heard about how it was going to happen on (Insert False Date here) they panicked. Which is the normal response of course, then Hollywood makes the movie 2012, which is clearly programming at its finest. All the while we have nasa throwing literally BILLIONS AND BILLIONS into space exploration and cameras, satellites and anything else they want up there. If something is going on theres no doubt NASA knows about it.

If you are of christian faith you will be familiar with the term 'Wormwood' if not here you go.

"10 Then the third angel sounded: And a great star fell from heaven, burning like a torch, and it fell on a third of the rivers and on the springs of water. 11 The name of the star is Wormwood. A third of the waters became wormwood, and many men died from the water, because it was made bitter. (Revelation 8:1-11)"

Some theorize that wormwood actually refers to the plant wormwood which is bitter. I choose to believe otherwise, wormwood is a direct reference to Planet X a.k.a Niburu.

Now why does any of this matter you might ask? Well let me tell you, as you should already know by now the world is literally ran by the Illuminati. Which is an occult group that worships satan. These people are not good people, they don't care about you other than the fact that you make them money by slaving away and barely getting by. Thats how they want it. Lucifer was portrayed as a snake in the garden of eden, what type of animal is a snake? A reptile right?

Now, its understood that nazi germany had lots of breakthroughs in technology, some say this is because of the Vril, a reptilian species that was around way before humans were, they are the ones who truly lived here first. Now lets think about some things here, how in the hell did Hermann Oberth and Wenher Von Braun make some of the most significant jumps in technology before these technologies were even close to being discovered.

Well Hermann Oberth is famously quoted as saying, "we were helped from people from other worlds" How exactly did he know they were from other worlds? They didn't look human of course, they looked reptilian, and nothing reptilian on earth was as intelligent as these beings, therefore he assumed they were from other worlds (planets). How could the German scientists have made such huge aeronautical and technological advances in such a short period of time?

The technologies include; beam weaponry, weather manipulation, both a cold and molecular bomb, ion plasma energy, and the out of this world flying saucer called the Haunbe flying discs. Developed a heavy particle accelerator used to produce pure bomb grade uranium 233.

They had invented the jet engine, guided bombs, and missile technology which were way ahead of the times. Could they have had special help? They did.

Now lets talk about Operation Paperclip, the plan that expunged 500 scientists records after WW2 and relocated them to the USA. The american government had the information and files turned over to them and the scientists continued doing work for the us government.

What does any of this have to do with Nibiru? Well my theory is that the Vril who live underground came FROM Nibiru A long-long time ago, needing something or someone to mine gold and do slave labor they spliced their DNA with the early homonids and created homo sapiens (which in latin mean "wise ones" Because obviously early homonids were not wise like the Vril, therefore they had to give them SOME of their DNA so we could think enough to actually do the work they wanted without rebelling. Not sure if the Vril came here because of overpopulation on Nibiru, or they came here looking for gold and other resources.

That is why I believe in 2016 Nibiru will be back, but before it gets here we will have E.T disclosure and we will be told that our governments have been 'comprimised' by these E.T beings. Which will then be the start of the NWO and the end of times as described in the bible. These E.T's will be the ones who FAKE the second coming of christ and will say that since they are god, we need to take the mark to worship them, a.k.a the illuminati triangle, or maybe the all seeing eye. Whoever doesn't take the mark will be killed . Without the mark you will not be able to do ANYTHING. Buy, Sell, Consume, Own land, anything that is involved with society you will be shunned from. Nasa knows it is coming and they are flipping shit and they want to keep it from you for as long as the sheeple will continue to sheep.

If TL:DR

Nazi scientists are quoted as recieving help from other worlds.
Satan was symbolized as a Snake in the Garden of Eden, Snakes are reptiles, The Vril and Annunaki are reptilian and spliced early homonid DNA to create homo sapiens to do their bidding and worship them. Nibiru will be back and then the world will learn the answer of the biggest mystery in life.

Why are we here?
Who made us?
Whats our purpose?

Get right with god please people.

Now tell me what you think? I actually want to have a decent conversation about this, if you think I am mistaken then lets have a debate.

Paul_Richard #conspiracy abovetopsecret.com

Yes, Homo sapien life was genetically jump-started on this planet about 300,000 years ago from a group of Zetan-Reptilians (the genetically manifested Zetan-Greys emerged later) who ventured here probably via Marduk/Planet X/Nibiru. Technically, they did not create humans, they mixed their DNA with the hominids here. At first, the result was a Homo sapien that was unable to reproduce. Continued experimentation corrected that problem. But their reasons for genetically manifesting humans were not noble: they simply wanted a slave race to mine for gold and it was less expensive to use live labor than their advanced robots which resembled living hominids. The archeological conclusions of Zecharia Sitchin and the findings of Linda Moulton Howe that are presented at the end of the Companion Tape of The Mysterious Origins of Man corroborate this.

Henry Johnson and Joe Taylor #fundie omniology.com

JACKALOPIAN RECONSTRUCTIONS OF LUCY, LUCKY & Little LUKE

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THESE "IMAGINARY" RECONSTRUCTIONS (ABOVE) ARE THE PRODUCT OF MACRO-EVOLUTIONARY RELIGIOUS DOGMA AND NOT THE RESULTS OF "LEGITIMATE" SCIENTIFIC METHODOLOGY. THIS SELF-FULFILLING DOGMA STATES THAT MANKIND HAS, IN FACT, TRANSMUTED HIMSELF FROM A PRIMITIVE SIMIAN ANCESTOR TO THE MODERN HOMO SAPIEN SAPIEN WE ARE TODAY.

ONE MIGHT ASK; WHY DO ALL THESE RECONSTRUCTIONS LOOK SO DIFFERENT?? THE ANSWER LIES WITHIN THE LIBERAL EVOLOGICAL INTERPRETATIONS OF DOGMATIC EVOLUCYISM. IN OTHER WORDS, THE ACADEMIC ELITE CAN'T GET THEIR ACT TOGETHER.

THE DIFFERENCES OCCUR AS FOLLOWS. ONE (UNIVERSITY ORDAINED) HIGH PRIEST TELLS HIS SCRIBE THAT LUCY & LUCKY WERE MORE APE THAN MAN, ANOTHER TELLS HIS SCRIBE THEY WERE MORE MAN THAN APE, WHILE ANOTHER SAYS THEY WERE HALF APE & HALF MAN!

THE ONLY "FACT" THAT IS INDISPUTABLE ABOUT THIS SILLORY IS THERE IS NOT ENOUGH INDISPUTABLE EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE TO VERIFY IT! ALL OF THESE RECONSTRUCTIONS ARE BASED MAINLY ON THE FRAGMENTARY AND INCOMPLETE FOSSIL REMAINS OF LUCY AND LUCKYS SKULLS (ABOVE & BELOW).

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THIS REVEALING GRAPHIC CAN BE FOUND IN THE BOOK "BEGINNINGS OF HUMAN KIND."

FOR A SCIENTIST TO "USE PARTS OF SEVERAL INDIVIDUALS" TO RECONSTRUCT A SKULL AND THEN HAVE THE SCIENTIFIC COMMUNITY CANONIZE IT TO THE WORLD AS "PROOF OF HUMAN EVOLUTION" IS NOTHING LESS THAN INTELLECTUAL DISHONESTY AND ACADEMIC FRAUD!

Yukon Jack #conspiracy #ufo #crackpot #racist cbcfurl.wordpress.com

What can you conclude about elongated skulls, alien-human hybrids, ruling class Reptilian bloodlines, Pope-Church-State-Zionist axis of evil, secret societies, rule of law, brutal control of the human population? The elongated skulls are not Homo Sapiens Sapiens but a different, more advanced race. They had bigger skulls, more brain capacity, and could outthink us.

MODERN ARCHEOLOGY IS A JOKE – THERE IS AMPLE VIDEO EVIDENCE OF ET VISITING EARTH
THEY DO NOT CONSIDER THAT THE CARACUS PERU ELONGATED SKULLS ARE A DIFFERENT HOMO DUMPED ON THIS PRISON PLANET OF SPACE EMPIRE REJECTS

Humans are not the only human specie on the planet, there is a more advanced human specie, the Anunnaki elongated skulls are another specie lording over us. They lived long lives but died out (or left earth) but they interbred with ordinary humans. They are gone now but their offspring hybrids still survive, and still lord over us, treating us quite cruelly as they view themselves superior.
[…]
What is going on in space empire above and on earth below will blow you away. What makes sense of the data is exactly the material presented by Spencer’s book of an interviewed Grey alien. Earth is a dumping ground for all kinds of rejects of heaven. The different ET races up there come here all of the time, they are here right now, they’ve been here for hundreds of millions of years.

A HIGHLY ORGANIZED AND RELIGIOUS EMPIRE IN THE HEAVENS ABOVE IS USING EARTH AS A PRISON PLANET
OTHER ET RACES COME HERE TO HARVEST DNA, GET SLAVES, REPTILIANS PREFER HUMAN MEAT (JUST AS WE LIKE CHICKEN)
MANY OF THESE LITTLE SHIT GREYS ARE SNEAKING AROUND AT NIGHT BECAUSE WHAT THEY ARE DOING IS ILLEGAL UNDER SPACE LAW AND TREATIES WITH EARTH GOVERNMENTS

Let me demystify “heaven” and “the Lord” for you. Heaven is space empire in the heavens above, the king up there owns us and the planet. The Lord is a flesh and blood physical being that lords over his kingdom in our region of space – and by logic we can deduced that heaven owns many prisons – an expansive space gulag spanning a large segment of the Milky Way Galaxy.

adamfoy #fundie animeacademy.com

it states that we evolved in to what we are known to day (by scientist) as Homo sapiens sapiens and all the life forms before it have become extinct due to evolution, yet we are still able to see monkeys walking around to day in jungles, should they not be extinct?

Vox Day #racist voxday.blogspot.com

Let me be perfectly clear. I do not describe myself as a "misogynist, racist, anti-Semite, and a few other flavors of asshole". John Scalzi, Patrick Nielsen Hayden, and Theresa Nielsen Hayden, among others, have described me that way. Of course, John Scalzi also describes himself as a rapist, Patrick Nielsen Hayden took his wife's name when he got married, and Theresa Nielsen Hayden is dumb enough to have claimed a prominent Game blogger with three Billboard-charting club hits "is not acquainted with actual women."

Granted, Spacebunny and the fat frog that is Nielsen Hayden don't look as if they belong to the same phylum, let alone the same species, so perhaps the key word is not "women, but "actual" in the sense of "grotesquely malformed".

I therefore suggest that their assertions should be taken with at least a small grain of salt rather than credited to me. And it should be obvious that, being a libertarian, I am not actively attempting to take away anyone's "most basic rights". Jemisin has it wrong; it is not that I, and others, do not view her as human, (although genetic science presently suggests that we are not equally homo sapiens sapiens), it is that we simply do not view her as being fully civilized for the obvious historical reason that she is not.

She is lying about the laws in Texas and Florida too. The laws are not there to let whites " just shoot people like me, without consequence, as long as they feel threatened by my presence", those self-defense laws have been put in place to let whites defend their lives and their property from people, like her, who are half-savages engaged in attacking them.

Jemisin's disregard for the truth is no different than the average Chicago gangbanger's disregard for the traditional Western code of civilized conduct. She could, if she wished, claim that privileged white males are responsible for the decline of Detroit, for the declining sales of science fiction, even for the economic and cultural decline of the United States, but that would not make it true. It would not even make it credible. Anyone who is paying sufficient attention will understand who is genuinely responsible for these problems.

Unlike the white males she excoriates, there is no evidence to be found anywhere on the planet that a society of NK Jemisins is capable of building an advanced civilization, or even successfully maintaining one without significant external support from those white males. If one considers that it took my English and German ancestors more than one thousand years to become fully civilized after their first contact with advanced Greco-Roman civilization, it should be patently obvious that it is illogical to imagine, let alone insist, that Africans have somehow managed to do the same in less than half the time at a greater geographic distance. These things take time.

Being an educated, but ignorant half-savage, with little more understanding of what it took to build a new literature by "a bunch of beardy old middle-class middle-American guys" than an illiterate Igbotu tribesman has of how to build a jet engine, Jemisin clearly does not understand that her dishonest call for "reconciliation" and even more diversity within SF/F is tantamount to a call for its decline into irrelevance. Nor do the back-patting Samuel Johnsons wiping their eyes and congratulating her for her ever-so-touching speech understand that.

There can be no reconciliation between the observant and the delusional.

Marc Bardeche #racist stormfront.org

Re: How to Argue With Race Denial

1. Laugh at the absurd suggestion that race isn't biological and real. For many people this is enough because they do not believe that race doesn't exist deep down. If they see you laugh at the idea, that can be influential (particularly to people listening in).
2. Different dog breeds are social constructs as well, yet different breeds are biologically different in significant and noticeable ways. Homo Sapiens Sapiens, just like the Canis Lupus Familiaris, is not exempt from internal differentiation into sub-species (aka races).
3. There cannot be evolution by natural selection without human differentiation. Furthermore, like every other mammal species on earth, with geographical separation (even over very short time periods) there is group evolution (this cannot be avoided in a species that reproduces through sexual reproduction). Group evolution is the basis of racial differentiation, subspeciation. If they deny that race exists they must deny that evolution by natural selection occurs.

The "Oiling the Slope" Award

For Excellence in PLEASE STOP FUCKING DOING THAT

crossspeci.es #fundie cultureghost.net

Rejecting "Double Bigotry" - Zoophobia Does Not Justify Homophobia | Cross Species Alliance

As institutionalized bigotry against the gay community becomes less and less acceptable within American culture, homophobes are finding it increasingly difficult to find support for their hate. Culturally, hating someone because of their sexual orientation no longer is considered an appropriate position to be taken in public - even if homophobia of the private sort continues to be distributed broadly throughout society.

Finding themselves on the losing end of history, the homphobes are engaged in a rear-guard action against the forces of diversity and mutual respect. Hatred - at least, the anti-gay kind of hatred - is quickly going out of style.

Out of this historical moment has come an uniquely prurient justification for anti-gay hatred and discrimination. Most recently, this "double bigotry" was expressed by homophobe Ben Carson, of Johns Hopkins, in an attempt to justify his stance against marriage equality. We quote:

Quote:
"My thoughts are that marriage is between a man and a woman. It's a well-established, fundamental pillar of society and no group, be they gays, be they NAMBLA, be they people who believe in bestiality. It doesn't matter what they are. They don't get to change the definition."


We're not sure what the precise meaning of the phrase "people who believe in bestiality" is intended to be. "Bestiality" - or, to use an accurate term, "zoophilia" - has been documented throughout human history in all recorded human cultures across the globe. Whether one "believes" in its existence or not does not actually impact the reality of its ubiquitous existence as a part of the expressed sexual diversity of the species Homo sapiens sapiens, any more than "believing" in gravity is a prerequisite for falling down a well.

That said, we'll infer that what Dr. Carson intended to convey in this phrase is something along the lines of "people who conclude based on extensive evidence that sexual relations between humans and members of other animal species is not only observationally commonplace, but also a healthy and essential component of human sexual diversity." If that's a fair rephrasing, then we at the Cross Species Alliance are indeed part of that group of people - a growing group of people which includes individuals from academic sexologists through animal welfare activists, noted psychologists, cultural theorists, and a wide range of popular culture figures.

We in this group reject bigotry, and we reject in particular bigotry aimed at unpopular sexual minorities who are targeted by society not due to any harm or other objectively-supported reason, but rather as a result of simple hatred of those who are different, unconventional, misunderstood, or - crucially - historically subjected to social persecution (the "we've always hatred them, who stop now?" argument). We of the Cross Species Alliance reject this bigotry.

The hatred of zoophiles - zoophobia - is no more appropriate within a healthy, diverse society than is the hatred of gay people - homophobia. Both are expressions of human bigotry, and both manifest as discrimination against and persecution of sexual minorities by majority populations. Justifying one - homophobia - by reference to the other - zoophobia - is tragically, ironically flawed both logically and morally. Two hatreds don't make a right, and bigotry doesn't justify more bigotry.

Sadly, the LGBT community has chosen to reject the "double bigotry" of equating same-sex attraction with zoophilia by denouncing zoophilia, and by pointing out that - in recent years, anyway - it's not ok culturally to hate gay people, but it is in fact still considered acceptable to hate (and persecute, and assault, and imprison, and otherwise victimize) zoophiles. This is a cowardly, hypocritical, shameful approach to take. It does no honor to the LGBT world to tacitly embrace zoophobia as part of their ongoing work towards a post-homophobic world.

The Cross Species Alliance rejects bigotry against all healthy, respectful, reciprocal sexual minorities - discriminating against people based on their sexual orientation is wrong, period. Full stop. Justifying one hatred - of gay people - by citing another hatred - of zoophiles - is disgraceful. Conversely, rejecting one hatred - homophobia - is best accompanied by a rejection of the other hatred: zoophobia.

That a form of bigotry - zoophobia - is widespread and largely culturally accepted does not make it right. Mere decades ago, homophobia was exactly that in the United States: widespread and culturally accepted. If our only metric for deciding what groups to hate was to reference what groups are currently hated, there would be no women's rights movement, no civil rights movement, and indeed no progress towards gay rights. Instead, we as a society must question deeply and honestly whether historical hatreds and historical bigotries have a legitimate role in our world today. Homophobia fails that test, and so does zoophobic bigotry.

Those who cling to their hatred of gay people must look elsewhere to rationalize it. Equating that hatred to another hatred actually demonstrates one thing quite clearly: that hatred can never serve as its own justification.

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The Cross Species Alliance (crossspeci.es | @CrossSpecies), formed in 2013, works towards a world free of anti-zoophile bigotry. In conjunction with other groups worldwide, and in partnership with academic and professional subject matter experts, it confronts zoophobia and gives voice to the hundreds of millions of zoophiles worldwide: 1% of the total human population, according to published data. Through media engagement, information dissemination, in-house publications, and zoophile community outreach, the Alliance disseminates practical and theoretical tools to anti-zoophobia activists around the world. Additionally, the Alliance coordinates with the DeepJustice Network (deepjustice.net | @DeepJustice) to fund aggressive legal counsel for persecuted zoophiles, confront zoophobic bigots, and seek civil damages against libelers of zoophiles in print, electronic, and broadcast media. The Cross Species Alliance does not speak for the zoophile community in all its diversity and complexity, but rather provides a platform through which zoophiles can express themselves as individuals and as a global community.

Media and community inquiries for the Cross Species Alliance may be directed to: info@crossspeci.es. Confidentiality of communications is assured, and zealously defended.

AAAAAAAAAAAcel #psycho #sexist incels.co

[Cope] I categorically refuse to refer to anyone that isn't a blackpilled incel as human being

normies, foids, soys, chads, to me they are all part of one big entity: the enemy. The enemy is not human, it doesn't have any emotions or logic, it is only able to destroy anything that isn't part of himself. It has no purpose and no soul, it's only a worthless parasitic cancer on this world. I don't understand how can an incel delude himself into thinking he can be "friend" with a part of the enemy, it will always try to hurt you no matter what because it's in its nature. As for other incels, I still don't know if I can consider some of them as allies or if they simply are other people, but I'm certain that the worst incel is thousand of times better than the """""""best""""""""" part of the enemy

This is the kind of shit that gives us bad press. Stop this shit. Just because you don't like someone doesn't make him or her less human.

They dehumanize us every day, why shouldn't we do the same? Especially since we have valid reasons to do so

You don't. From a purely scientific and rational point of view, they are human, no matter how they behave.

We too are human, but the enemy doesn't seem to care for it, so I won't do it neither. Also human =/= homo sapiens sapiens, a human must also have emotions and reasoning to be conisdered one

Tenniel #racist stormfront.org

Actually, it's anthropologically and genetically accurate. Defining human, as distinguished from humanoid, as homo sapien sapiens -- unless a person is a member of either the White European race or the NE Asian race, he is NOT fully human. Those two are the ONLY fully modern human beings on earth. The other "races" or groups are a mixture to varying degrees of archaic pre- or sub-human and modern human. The congoid negro (the negro the jews brought to America into slavery), in fact, has very little modern human in him -- and has scarcely evolved since he evolved. Indeed, he is part chimpanzee -- the only homonin that is so. Archaic homonins were/are dark skinned, dark haired, dark eyed, and small brained because these are all tropical adaptations.

Vox Day #racist voxday.blogspot.com

Obsidian cries raciss

I'm only surprised it took him this long to get around to it. I've been waiting for him to take a public shot at me ever since I humiliated him when he was strutting around boasting about "chin-checking chumps" or however it was that the Jive talk went:

Following up on my question above, I note that you cite two very well known bloggers in the Manosphere, who would be considered to fit Kimmel’s characterization like the proverbial hand in glove: Chateau Heartiste, formerly known as Roissy, and Vox Day, of the blog Alpha Game. Both have been cited for their racist views of people of color, and neither seem particularly interested in being inclusive of Men of Color under their tents (in fact, I would go so far as to say that they are both actively hostile to such inclusiveness – I say this based on direct observation and experience of both). As noted above, their astute observations and the like, many of which I do agree with, are utterly undermined by their racism, and gives folks like Kimmel, et al a smoking gun with which to discredit the entirety of the MRM cause.

My response is at Alpha Game. But suffice it to say that my deep and abiding concerns for the African-American community are only exceeded by my dedication to the plight of the Heian Japanese. Of course, I am hostile to "inclusiveness". As an open and avowed elitist, it tends to come with the territory.

I actually find it vaguely surprising that people are still trying to play the race card in 2014. Hispanics quite openly hate Blacks and are actively driving them out of their most archetypical communities. Whites and Jews are "gentrifying" them out of their historic homes, which is the genteel way to say "financial ethnic cleansing". I mean, who is still pretending that desegregation is even remotely viable? Who is still dumb enough to pretend that the Civil Rights Movement wasn't a fundamentally wrong-headed failure?

It's even stranger that they still attempt to play it on me. First, I can trump it with my own Man of Color card. Second, I should think I have made it abundantly clear that I am not in the least bit afraid of being labeled anything from Toddler Slayer to RSHD.

"All men are created equal" cannot possibly apply in a material sense in any world where all men are not even equally homo sapiens sapiens.

SpearChuckinJungleBunny #racist niggermania.net

Okay. That is just hilarious. "Some gentleman of African American origin" ?

1) There is no such thing as an African American. They're just niggers. A Sub-Saharan African is not an American, because to be an American you have to be a citizen or immigrant human being, and niggers are neither citizens nor human beings. They're leftover antique farm equipment, run amok. NIGGERS.

2) Niggers are not men. To be a man or a woman you also must first be a human being, and niggers are savage primates separated from the human species by hundreds of thousands of years of evolution.

Niggers are male or female, though it's not easy to tell them apart. "Men" is a noun reserved for homo sapiens sapiens, not gangly-limbed shitskinned bootlipped bastard hyper-criminals.

3) Niggers are not "gentle". The word gentle shouldn't even go anywhere near a sentence that's about niggers. Furthermore, "gentleman" is a term reserved for humans who behave with dignity, thoughtfulness and grace, and niggers have none of that going on.

4) If you allowed a nigger to assault and rob you, and you are fully aware of what niggers really are, then that is completely your fault. You should be trained, legally armed, and have the wherewithal to not put yourself in a situation where a nigger animal successfully follows its "kill yo ass" instincts and makes a victim out of you. Niggers are just stupid animals following their primitive instincts; humans have forethought and can be held accountable for their actions.

"Some gentleman of African American origin". That's the funniest line I've heard all year.

r/TheDogPill #sexist #crackpot reddit.com

The sole purpose of this subreddit is to understand and appreciate the spiritual meaning and biological reality of human relationship with animals. More specifically, within a female Homo S. sapiens and Canis l. familiaris (and other related Canids). It has been widely documented throughout the history (and since the antiquity) that a female Homo s. Sapiens and canids can develop a deep relationship with each other that shaped the human civilization.

(Translation: Incels have created a subreddit devoted to their sick fetish/alternative fact of women commonly having sex with dogs. Yes, really.
Warning: Contains graphic historical drawings of bestiality that are not flagged as NSFW and are thus displayed even if you are not logged in or have 18+ content disabled!)

DJ Taylor #fundie freerepublic.com

Charles Darwin’s Theory of Evolution (often referred to as The Theory of Survival of the Fittest) describes the positive effects resulting from any “pressure” on an animal species that removes the least fit among the species and allows only the most fit of the species to reproduce. Many of us are well aware of this “Survival of the Fittest” theory, but few are aware that Darwin also makes mention of the negative effects resulting from unlimited reproduction of a species’ least fit when the weak, the lazy, and the stupid are left unchecked.

We like to think otherwise, but our species, Homo sapiens-sapiens, isn’t that long “out of the trees” and the same laws of nature that affect all of God’s creatures apply equally to us. If we were to observe any other species that had been allowed to reproduce without limitations, we would know immediately what the consequences will be.

Whenever the weak; lazy; and stupid of a species are allowed to reproduce unimpeded by predators that feed off the weak; lazy; and stupid, they soon outnumber the strong, productive, and intelligent. When the weak/lazy/stupid dominate the gene pool, the entire population becomes weak/ lazy/stupid, (Democrats/Socialists/Communists) and then the population collapses.

Peter Hall #fundie facebook.com

Homophobia, Lets break it down >> Phobia - A phobia is an irrational fear, a kind of anxiety disorder in which the individual has a relentless dread of a situation, living creature, place, or thing. Homo - 1 -Homo is the genus that comprises the species Homo sapiens, which includes modern humans 2- a contemptuous term used to refer to a homosexual, especially a male homosexual. Put it together and it should mean an irrational fear of 1- The Human race, 2 Homosexuals.

I have no irrational fear of eather i just dont agree to Homosexual ways. And i love the HomoSapiens (i just disagree with some other Homosapians) but im tolorant of them !

supersport #fundie christiandiscussionforums.org

They [Homo neanderthalensis] are identical [to Homo s. sapiens] in as much as Chinese are "identical" to Africans or Dutch. We are all the human kind. If you evos were intellectually honest you'd admit that according to your theory, different races of people should be classed as different "species" of humans....(just as different varieties of bears, polar, brown, black,..etc...are different species of bear.) But of course you evos are scared of political incorrectness, not to mentioned scared of being labled racists, so when it comes to humans, you drop the labels, play dumb, and hope nobody notices. I notice. And it is perfectly clear that ToE is a racist theory at its core.....scientists have long called black people monkeys. shame.

dave #fundie forums.myspace.com

The Ascent of man is ancient...

Alpha, Adam, an eponym for the whole species or developmental series of linkages from Ramaphitecus Man until Jesus, the completed Adam, the Omega
Homoousian sapiens
(1) Seth, (Australopithecus anamensis)
(2) Enos, (Australopithecus africanus)
(3) Cainan, (Australopithecus aethiopicus)
(4) Mahalaleel, (Australopithecus garhi)
(5) Jared, (a species concurrent with Homo rudolfensis)
(6) Enoch, (Homo habilis, walked with God towards the final evolution of Homoiousian man)
(7) Methuselah, (Modern Homo erectus: China, SE Asia H. Erectus)
(8) Lamech, (Homo antecessor)
(9) Noah, (a type of Homo sapiens’ forebearer)
(10) Shem, (Mongolian)
(11) Ham, (Negroid)
(12) Japheth, (Caucasian)

Michael Flannery #fundie evolutionnews.org

What the Piltdown Hoax Tells Us, 104 Years Later

A curious anniversary falls this weekend. On December 18, 1912, the infamous Piltdown hoax was unveiled to an astonished audience of the Geological Society of London by lawyer and amateur archeologist Charles Dawson (1864-1916) and Arthur Smith Woodward (1864-1944) of the British Museum. What they showed was nothing short of amazing: the apparent remains of a human-like skull attached to an ape-like jaw. Allegedly unearthed at the Piltdown gravel pit in East Sussex, England, it was hailed as the missing link -- a truly history-making discovery!

It would take nearly 41 years to expose the artifact as a fraud. On November 21, 1953, officials of the British Natural History Museum revealed the shocking truth: Piltdown man was a hoax, the combination of three species, a medieval human cranium, the jaw of a centuries-old young orangutan, and some fossilized chimpanzee teeth. Various culprits have been proposed, including famed Jesuit philosopher Teilhard de Chardin (1881-1955) and physician/novelist Sir Arthur Conan Doyle (1859-1930). But most recent investigation suggests that the imposture was likely perpetrated by Dawson alone in an effort to gain recognition and election as a Fellow into the Royal Society (see "Piltdown hoax solved," Forbes, August 10, 2016).

Writing for Harper's on the second anniversary of the Piltdown exposure, paleontologist Loren Eiseley (1907-1977), not one to look at an event or a phenomenon superficially, asked, "Was Charles Darwin Wrong About the Human Brain?" Eiseley noted that Alfred Russel Wallace (1823-1913), co-discoverer of the theory of natural selection, was unimpressed with the Piltdown "find" from the beginning. Writing to a friend in August 1913 (just three months before his death), Wallace exclaimed, "The Piltdown skull does not prove much, if anything!" Why, asked Eiseley, had Wallace, almost alone among the scientific community, so summarily dismissed this apparently stunning missing link? The answer was simple: "he did not believe in a skull which had a modern brain box attached to an apparently primitive face and given, in the original estimates, an antiquity of something over a million years." The archeological "discovery" would have confirmed Darwin's Descent of Man in dramatic fashion. Indeed Piltdown man was, from a Darwinian perspective, even something that would have been predicted.

But Wallace's "voice of lonely protest," observed Eiseley, underscored "the abyss which yawned between man and ape" that Darwinians at the time blissfully ignored. Having observed primitive cultures in South America and the Malay Archipelago for more than twelve years, Wallace concluded (quoting Eiseley) that humans' "mental powers were far in excess of what they really needed to carry on the simple food-gathering techniques by which they survived." Certainly no process of natural selection was adequate to produce such superior powers of art, reason, and morals. For Wallace, the human brain freed mankind from the tyranny of natural selection:

Here, then, we see the true grandeur and dignity of man. On this view of his special attributes, we may admit, that even those who claim for him a position as an order, or a sub-kingdom by himself, have some show of reason on their side. He is, indeed, a being apart, since he is not influenced by the great laws which irrestistibly modify all other organic beings (Contributions to the Theory of Natural Selection, 1870).

How, then, do we account for this impressive array of human attributes? Wallace thought that mankind might well have emerged comparatively recently, and that the rapid evolution of the modern human brain would confirm that "distinct and higher agencies" have been responsible for these mental attributes and attainments.

Eiseley confessed, "Since the exposure of the Piltdown hoax all of the evidence at our command -- and it is considerable -- points to man, in his present form, as being one of the youngest and newest of all earth's swarming inhabitants. . . . Today, with the solution of the Piltdown enigma, we must settle the question of the time involved in favor of Wallace, not Darwin." Although Eiseley thought some other wholly naturalistic explanation might account for the late and virtually saltationist expansion of the human intellect, he confessed that "science . . . has yet to explain how we have come so far so fast, nor has it any completely satisfactory answer to the question asked by Wallace long ago."

Today we still wait for an explanation, and it must be admitted that various speculations along the lines of blind chance and necessity or natural selection remain as unsatisfactory as when Eiseley was writing more than sixty years ago. A century after Wallace's dismissal of Piltdown man, science still confirms Eiseley's assessment and Wallace's vindication. The chart below shows the timeline for ascending brain size/body weight estimates for Sahelanthropus, Australopithecus afarensis, early Homo, Homo habilis, Homo erectus, H. heidelbergensis, Neanderthals, and H. sapiens.

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This chart shows relative brain size as cm3 per 50 kg of body weight. Adapted with modifications from Robert Jurmain, Lynn Kilgore, et al., Introduction to Physical Anthropology, 2013-2014 ed. (Wadsworth, Cengage Learning, 2014), p. 357, and "Homo habilis," Encyclopedia Britannica, updated August 15, 2015.

Clearly brain size and capacity has not only increased, but increased at a very late and remarkably accelerated pace. Of course brain size is not the only measure of intellectual capacity, other factors may be involved. Some, for example, emphasize that Neanderthals, the closest historically to humans, possessed brains that were larger in absolute size to us. But as recent analysis has uncovered, the Neanderthal brain was quite different from its human counterpart. Being much more elongated than globular, the indications are that Neanderthals "reached large brain sizes along different evolutionary pathways." Their speculation that unique patterns of brain development in H. sapiens would have become "a target for positive selection" merely begs Wallace's original question (see Gunz et al., "Brain development after birth differs between Neanderthals and modern humans," Current Biology, Nov. 2010).

So the question remains: How did humans acquire such vast intellectual capacities so comparatively recently and so rapidly? Wallace called upon an "Overruling Intelligence" to explain human intelligence and many other features of complexity in biology and the cosmos. While Darwinians continue to search for some naturalistic cause, others, like British physician James Le Fanu, point out that the disappointments in high-tech solutions to the nature of the intellect and the human mind so touted by the human genome project and promised in the "Decade of the Brain" in the 1990s should force a reassessment of our species as truly unique (Why Us?: How Science Rediscovered the Mystery of Ourselves, 2009).

Eiseley's long forgotten but intriguing article is fortunately now available as "The Real Secret of Piltdown" in a new 2-volume set of his collected essays. As we reflect on the 104th anniversary of arguably science's greatest fraud, Eiseley's conclusion rings is as pertinent today as when it was first written:

The true secret of Piltdown, though thought by the public to be merely the revelation of an unscrupulous forgery, lies in the fact that it has forced science to reexamine carefully the history of the most remarkable creation in the world -- the human brain.

If the Cambrian period of 530 million years ago poses serious challenges to Darwin's insistence upon slow, incremental change in the amazingly rapid proliferation of animals over a mere 5 to 6 million-year timespan (see Darwin's Doubt), then how much more should the transformational changes in the human brain over the past 100 to 200,000 years cause as serious reevaluation of the nature of human beings and the means by which they came to be. If the Cambrian "explosion" is just too much change over too little time to be explained by Darwinian processes, the human brain is way too much change over way too little time. Perhaps Wallace's view of the Piltdown hoax still holds an important lesson for us today. Maybe the most dramatic "explosion" of all is the one that rests within our crania.

john crawford #fundie christianforums.com

Yes, get rid of all those Homo erectus fossils. Burn 'em or something. Re-bury them! Cremate them! After all, they are just the dusty remains of some poor neo-Darwinst 'species' in Asia that was originally obliterated when superior Homo sapiens marched out of Africa and replaced those old erect Homos by driving them into mass graves and final extinction. The modern Out of Africa Model is the perfect solution for getting rid of a whole species of humans even if they do leave some fossil evidence of their 1.5 million year existance on the planet before those sapiens got invented.

Roosh #racist rooshv.com

Why can’t the Muslims, Africans, and Indians be more civilized like people in the West? Why do they insist on endless breeding when their children have no chance of attending an Ivy League university? Isn’t there a way we can help them to see the light of civilization, rationale thinking, and clean hygiene? These are questions you may have asked at some point when looking down on the third-world barbarians, but from the perspective of nature, it’s not them who are the problem. We are the problem. We are the defects of nature that will be eradicated.

Nature does not care about education, “high quality” offspring, college degrees, equal rights, cleanliness, sustainability, philosophy, or the environment. It cares about fertility and might, and the species or race that is most fertile and most powerful will be rewarded with the bounty that the Earth provides. The people who are able to take over the planet in sheer numbers, regardless of its intelligence or manners, will come to rule the world, just like how homo sapiens came to overrun the more intelligent Neanderthals by breeding at a far superior rate. The most intelligent race on the planet can use their smarts to fortify themselves in caves as the more numerous barbarians take over the planet, even if they’re nothing more than mindless zombies.

Rational thinking from the enlightenment era, when taken to its logical end in proving that families, divinity, and traditional standards aren’t necessary, along with the notion that the individual is God, leads to the suicide of society. Rationale, in it’s beautifully cherished civilized form, leads to the end of any race who participates in it, while the stupid barbarians with IQs of 95 or lower, who follow a two-thousand year old book that implores them to conquer and chop off heads, continue to multiply and take over more lands.

We are the mistakes of nature. We are the grotesque. We have been condemned for replacement, forsaken by God for enabling over one billion abortions in just a few decades while we attempt to change the rules of nature, to declare man woman and woman man. Our goal is not one of spiritual enlightenment but of achieving the most vile feats of degeneracy.

Because of our cultural and biological sterility, I believe we have been fated for destruction. Even though this end stares us right in the face, the best we can muster is a few rants on internet web sites, while the barbarians are raping, conquering, and breeding. I promise you they will win. History shows that the barbarians always win. They are the solution to a broken people. They faithfully worship their gods while we worship our Facebook likes and celebrities. We are so hopelessly sterile, so anti-life, that nature will celebrate when we are replaced by those who can barely read. But they will treasure the life of their kind, and that’s enough.

Even if we solve all the political problems of the day, and neutralize the most vulgar of our society, what are we left with? A shrinking population and citizens so atomized that they are even losing the ability to communicate with each other, who have to use computerized apps and alcohol to fornicate while the female is on sterility medication, which her parents awarded her upon turning 16 years old. Our punishment is coming. Lands of the West will be given away, and even if the barbarian horde can be beaten with technology, there will be a day where there’s man left to stand against them to push the kill button. The barbarians will inherit the new world until they become civilized themselves and the cycle renews once more, like it has many times in the past.

Nature doesn’t care about your egalitarian laws or your superior IQ. It cares about reproduction and power, and what the barbarians lack in intelligence, they make up for in life energy. We are the anomalies, we are the mistakes, and unless we re-discover the ways of family, tradition, and God, we must be ready to accept the inevitable end that it was us who become so weak as a people that we didn’t even bother having a gate, and that all the barbarians had to do was walk right in.

Ferdinand Bardamu #racist eurocanadian.ca

The White race’s intelligence and behavior has been under intense selective pressure since late medieval times. These new environmental forces significantly increased White resilience in the face of adversity. The first of these was the Black Death that ravaged Europe from 1347 to 1351. As one of the most catastrophic pandemics in world history, it killed off one-third of Europe’s population. The evidence of bioarchaeology, drawn from skeletal analysis of burial remains from “Black Death” cemeteries, reveals that far from being random, the plague was very selective in its choice of victims (DeWitte, 2014). The weak and the elderly were at increased risk of infection. Given the strong correlation between poor health and IQ, the Whites who survived were much stronger, healthier and smarter than ever before. The dearth of peasant labor led to an increase in wages, rising living standards and the invention of labor-saving devices. This greater wealth and prosperity liberated many from the common drudgery of daily life. A century after the Black Death, the Renaissance scaled even greater heights of intellectual and artistic achievement.

The 17th century colonization of North America also subjected Whites to strong selective pressure. The first Englishmen to have disembarked on American soil had survived religious persecution in England as Puritans objecting to the “Roman idolatry” of Anglican ritual; they had survived the perilous transAtlantic voyage, unaffected by typhus or scurvy. In New England, the Puritans still had to contend with disease, the harsh winters and the “merciless Indian savages” that lay hiding in the primeval forests of the eastern seaboard. If the weak and unintelligent managed to survive the voyage, they would eventually be killed off by starvation or Indian tomahawk. This pattern of eugenic selection affected all English settlers, including those motivated by purely secular and commercial interests. By the end of the colonial period, the Anglo-Saxon in the Americas had emerged as one of the finest and most evolved specimens of the White race.

The purifying effects of eugenic selection had rapidly accelerated the evolution of Homo sapiens in Europe and North America: the fittest White men had always left behind the most offspring, but after the ravages of bubonic plague and the hardships of American colonization, their broods became larger, healthier and more intelligent. White men of lesser ability, if they were lucky enough to find mates, typically left behind few descendants, with fewer still managing to survive past childhood.

A significant increase in the population of intelligent Whites inevitably led to a rising per capita rate of innovation. This peaked in 1873, during the reign of Queen Victoria (1837-1901), but declined rapidly after that (Huebner, 2005). With the new science and technology, the White man was able to raise incomes, improve public health and increase longevity across the Western world. Eugenic selection for higher IQ made it possible for the White man to develop more sophisticated military technology. This far surpassed anything that had ever been developed by the ancient Greeks and Romans or even non-Whites. By century’s end, approximately 84% of the earth’s surface was controlled by the colonial empires of Western Europe. Intellectual and creative development had scaled such heights that Europe even gave birth to a race of intellectual supermen. These were the Victorian polymaths, who numbered among their ranks the colorful Sir Richard Francis Burton (1821-1890). He was a man who excelled at every subject that commanded his undivided attention. He was a brilliant writer, scholar, explorer, geographer, translator, diplomat and swordsman. A master linguist, he spoke an astonishing 40 languages and dialects fluently. This period of continuous White evolutionary development wasn’t to last forever. By 1914, the golden age of White intellectual and creative superiority had come to an end.

II: Western Intellectual Decline from Late 19th Century to Present

The general intelligence of the Western industrialized nations has declined since late 19th century, according to a meta-analysis of over a dozen reaction time (RT) studies. A cognitive, but not an economic or thermodynamic, limit has apparently been reached. There are now fewer individuals with the intelligence to solve complex mathematical and engineering problems, which is why the rate of innovation has significantly decreased since 1873. “Genetic g” - g-factor in the absence of gene environment interaction - has decreased by 14 IQ points over the course of a century, at least in the Anglophone nations of the UK, USA, Canada and Australia. This means a decrease of 1.23 IQ points per decade (Woodley et al., 2013). To eliminate the possibility of overinflated RT latencies because of hardware and software lags (Woods et al., 2015), the meta-analytic findings were adjusted for lag time. The result was that the Victorians were still faster (and smarter) than modern Western populations (Woodley et al., 2015).

Measures of vocabulary, relatively insensitive to environmental influence because of greater overall gsaturation and heritability rate, provided additional evidence of superior Victorian intelligence. A study tracked WORDSUM item frequencies over the course of 150 years. For this, a database that stored 5.9 million texts from the 1500s to the present was used. The most difficult and therefore the most highly g-loaded WORDSUM items exhibited sharper declines in historical usage since mid-19th century, consistent with declines in “genetic g” observed among Western populations (Woodley et al., 2015).

After decades of “massive IQ gains,” cognitive reversals were observed in Norway (Sundet et al, 2004), Denmark (Teasdale & Owen, 2008), the Netherlands (Woodley & Meisenberg, 2013) and elsewhere. In one study, genes associated with educational attainment and cognitive ability had declined in frequency across birth cohorts in an Icelandic population. It was estimated that a loss of 0.3 IQ points per decade would substantially affect Iceland if allowed to continue for centuries (Kong et al., 2017). James Flynn, discoverer of the eponymous Flynn effect, has acknowledged the reversal of cognitive gains in certain Western countries, especially those of Scandinavia. At a 2017 conference hosted by the International Society for Intelligence Research (ISIR), he admitted: “I have no doubt that there has been some deterioration of genetic quality for intelligence since late Victorian times.” Flynn has projected substantial losses of about 6 or even 7 IQ points for Scandinavia over a 30 year period. Such a reversal in intelligence would have catastrophic effects on the societies and economies of Scandinavia, now being flooded by hostile elites with Third World “migrants.”

A relevant question is: “If the post-WWII consensus acknowledges the existence of massive IQ gains over the last century, how does one explain cognitive reversal in the most industrialized nations?” This phenomenon is known as Cattell’s paradox and its solution is Woodley’s co-occurrence model. Although phenotypic intelligence has increased since WWII, genotypic intelligence has decreased. The anti-Flynn effect is really a “Jensen effect” because it has resulted in losses on psychometric g.

III: The Role of Dysgenic Selection in Western Intellectual Decline

Mass “immigration” from low-IQ regions of the globe, such as the Middle East, South Asia and Africa, have no doubt contributed to declines in the average intelligence of the West. In one recent study (Woodley et al., 2017), Third World “immigration” was associated with IQ declines in 13 different nations. High levels of Third World “immigration” are always significant predictors of Western cognitive decline; its most pronounced effects are on IQ subtest batteries with the highest g-loadings. Nevertheless, Third World “immigration” does not fully account for dysgenic selection among Western populations. Declines in genotypic intelligence occurred long before the advent of Third World “immigration,” which only partially explains the Western world’s declining IQ.

The greater fecundity of intelligent Whites, compared to the unintelligent, had always been the norm, especially since the 1400s. This changed during the Industrial Revolution; more intelligent Whites delayed having children until later in life, through a combination of abstinence and contraception, to further their educational aspirations and develop their innate potential. Medical breakthroughs significantly improved general health and nutrition, which prolonged human lifespans. This allowed less intelligent Whites to survive childhood and have significantly more children than those who were more intelligent. The rise of social welfare liberalism in the 20th century merely exacerbated this trend. As Western governments progressively taxed their wealthiest and most intelligent citizens, their wealth was unfortunately redistributed to less industrious and less intelligent members of the White race, who squandered the money as they multiplied recklessly.

More recent studies have shed further light on the negative correlation between intelligence and fertility. In one study, the higher the intelligence and socioeconomic status of adolescents, the lower their likelihood of having offspring. This dysgenic effect was more true of females than males, indicating that women become choosier the more wealth and status they accumulate (Reeve et al., 2013). Among adults, a negative correlation between intelligence and odds of parenthood was discovered; every 15 point increase in a woman’s childhood IQ would decrease a woman’s odds of parenthood by about 20% (Kanazawa, 2014). The female role in the transmission of intelligence is a substantial one because the genes for intelligence are X-chromosomal; if more intelligent women since the late Victorian period have had less children than the unintelligent, one can only expect a gradual decline in the national intelligence of Western populations.

Analysis of a large genealogical database revealed that Iceland’s national IQ had decreased over time because more intelligent Icelanders were having less children. Although IQ declines per decade were small, statistical significance is attained when viewed from an evolutionary timescale. Dysgenic fertility may potentially undermine Icelandic economy and society within a few centuries, unless it is reversed (Kong et al., 2017). Polygenic scores, which capture selection against g (such as dysgenic fertility or “immigration”), are the most significant predictors of the century-long decline in “heritable g” (Woodley et al., 2018). The “neurotoxin hypothesis,” like all environmental explanations, fails to adequately predict temporal trends in general intelligence because cognitive ability is under much stronger genetic than environmental control. The worst environmental deprivations (i.e. severe malnutrition) or the most costly and ambitious environmental interventions rarely, if ever have a lasting effect on heritable g.

Most experts in intelligence, cognitive ability and student achievement now attribute the anti-Flynn effect to dysgenic fertility, Third World “immigration” and worsening educational standards in Western countries; in contrast, they are far more unanimous among each other in attributing environmental causation to the Flynn effect, in striking agreement with Woodley’s co-occurrence model (Rindermann et al., 2016). Based on the evidence, Western intellectual decline is largely caused by a negative IQfertility gradient, with Third World “immigration” becoming an increasingly significant contributor as time goes on.

IV: The Road to “Idiocracy”

Nobel laureate William Shockley proposed a Voluntary Sterilization Bonus Plan (1972). He presented this as a “thought experiment.” This would be open to all members of the American public, regardless of “sex, race or welfare status.” For each IQ point under 100, the recipient was to be given $1000, as long as he or she was willing to undergo vasectomy or tubal ligation. This was not an original proposal, as it had been first suggested over 40 years ago by American journalist and scholar H.L. Mencken, albeit in a rather humorous context. What all of these proposals neglect, and what modern eugenicists have failed to acknowledge, is the obvious sex differential in contributions to dysgenic fertility, probably because of the natural sympathy that men typically have for the opposite sex.

The low-IQ male, unless he is among the 20% of males considered physically attractive, is permanently excluded from the sexual market. This is because of his lifelong inability to acquire the material resources that allow him to compensate for his genetic inferiority. On the other hand, the low-IQ female poses a far greater threat to the mental hygiene of Western populations, by virtue of her role as sexual selector. For the low-IQ female, there will always be large numbers of reasonably attractive males willing to satisfy her many sexual and financial needs. If the low-IQ male must be handsome or rich, the low-IQ female must only be of childbearing age if she wishes to attract a mate of fairly decent genetic quality. The Industrial Revolution brought with it substantial improvements in public health and nutrition, making it easier for low-IQ females to survive childhood, only to breed as much as possible throughout their reproductive years.

When, in 1869, Sir Francis Galton made his famous scientific prediction of declining Western intelligence based on anecdotal observation of changing Victorian demographics, what he really observed was more low-IQ females than ever before surviving childhood to satisfy their instinctive desire for maternity. This trend has continued without interruption to the present, making low-IQ females the primary driving force behind the dysgenic fertility that has resulted in declining general intelligence in Western industrialized nations. No successful eugenic policy can exist without taking this into full account. In order for Dr. Shockley’s proposal to have made any sense from an evolutionary perspective, the bonus for females should have been quadrupled or even quintupled for each IQ point under 100.

Into this volatile mixture was added feminism, a pernicious ideology that grants both unrestricted individual autonomy and reproductive choice to women who should not be allowed to breed for eugenic reasons. In recognizing that all women have the same rights, feminism reveals itself to be just as dangerous as the Third World “immigration” promoted by hostile elites. By encouraging low-IQ females to engage in promiscuity, march in “slut walks,” wear “pussy hats,” and breed prolifically - while high-IQ females delay parenthood because of their educational aspirations - feminism has merely accelerated the decline in general intelligence among Western populations, already well under way since the Industrial Revolution. As Whites get dumber, their “Western uniqueness,” including their high intelligence, creativity and ability to produce more geniuses than any other race of people, will disappear with them. This radical transformation of the underlying genetic structure of Western populations could take place within less than a 100 years. Few people recognize the fragility of Western intellectual gains because of selective pressures exerted by the Black Death in Medieval Europe and the 17th century colonization of North America. By undermining Western mental and racial hygiene, feminism threatens to return Whites to the way things were before the agricultural revolution of the Neolithic age.

Helmuth Nyborg, extrapolating from present trends and projecting them into the future, allows us to better visualize in concrete terms the post-apocalyptic scenario that awaits Western civilization (2011). He shows what happens when a racially homogeneous society like Denmark, with a population of over 5 million, is subjected to both “Internal Relaxation of Darwinian Selection” (IRDS), referring to the preservation and multiplication of the genetically disadvantaged, and “External Relaxation of Darwinian Selection” (ERDS), in reference to “super-fertile” Third World “replacement migration.”

When both internal and external relaxation are combined, “Double Relaxation of Darwinian Selection” (DRDS) is produced, a clear and unobstructed path to Western “idiocracy” in Denmark. By 2072, ethnic Danes will be reduced to 60% of the population, from a high of 97% in 1979; minority status will be reached by 2085. In 1979, Danish phenotypic IQ was 98, but by 2072, it is 93, having dropped 5 IQ points in less than a century. As national IQ decreases, Denmark will be gradually transformed into a Latin American “banana republic.” Ethnic Danes, demoralized by feminism and social welfare legislation, will have no choice but to acquiesce to the destruction of their own country. Significant damage to the economy and educational infrastructure are to be expected; a 5 point drop in Danish IQ means a 35% reduction in the nation’s GDP. Democracy will inevitably become unsustainable as average national IQ plummets below 90; it will be replaced by the authoritarian political culture and religious dogmatism found in Middle Eastern, African and Latin American societies.

Belief that “more White babies” are the answer to dysgenic fertility among Whites is just as dangerous and genocidal as the liberal belief that Third World “replacement migration” is “cultural enrichment.” Since low-IQ females leave behind more offspring than those of high IQ, more White births would reduce high-IQ females to an “endangered species.” This would intensify the “Internal Relaxation of Darwinian Selection” already occurring in Western populations. As Whites “devolve,” they will no longer be able to maintain their own Western industrialized societies. A demographic transition of such magnitude would transform Western Europe and North America, the Occidental heartland, into a cultural and biological extension of the Third World. Since women are loyal to wealth and power, but not race, one can expect genocidal levels of miscegenation between White females of low intelligence and the non-White foreigners who have dispossessed Whites and conquered the West.

To reverse the process of dysgenic selection, the White man must do three things:

He must get rid of the hostile elite.

He must forcibly repatriate all Third World “migrants,” including their descendants. Forced “remigration” is not an unrealistic policy; mass population transfers have been successfully carried out before, i.e. deportation of Germans, 1944-50, from Eastern and Central European countries to Germany and Austria.

If selective pressures in medieval Europe and colonial America led to the steady eugenic improvement of Western populations, making it possible for them to conquer 84% of the globe’s surface, only their re-emergence will reverse the dysgenic selection that has bedeviled the White race since the mid-19th century. This can only be accomplished through a rigorous application of classical eugenic principles.

If the White race is to survive, only its strongest and most intelligent members must be prepared for the harsh Darwinian struggle that lies ahead. Wasting precious resources on mental and genetic defectives is sheer pathological altruism. Race-conscious Whites have a collective interest in raising healthy and intelligent offspring, but no such interest can exist when it comes to those who are weak and unintelligent. They are “life unworthy of life”; even they would not consent to such a truncated and meager existence if given full possession of their normal faculties. From a White nationalist perspective, to bring such children into the world is selfish and morally irresponsible; they impose unnecessary fiscal burdens on Whites and use up resources that are better invested elsewhere.

The race-conscious White man is faced with a dilemma: because of liberal elite hostility to his own ethnic genetic interests, any program of eugenic enhancement would be outlawed under the current totalitarian leftist order; at the same time, he cannot simply wait out the elite-managed decline of Western civilization. In less than a few generations, most of his race may become drooling mental defectives, if they haven’t already miscegenated themselves out of existence into the burgeoning mass of Third World “migrants” who now infest his homeland. If he must take action, he must take it now, otherwise all is lost.

Race-conscious Whites must abandon all leftist-controlled urban areas to “live off the grid.” By colonizing relatively unpopulated areas of North America and Western Europe, the White man will return to a rustic existence, filling the countryside, the mountains, the forests, the tundra with Whites only settlements, similar to the Boer-only settlement of Orania in South Africa. Living the way his ancestors did centuries ago will ensure that no Third World “immigrant” follows him into the mountains or the wilderness. Self-imposed hardship will further intensify Darwinian selective pressure on Whites, jumpstarting the process of natural eugenic enhancement, just as it did during the early colonization of the Americas. Once race-conscious Whites have become sufficiently numerous, they must embark on a program of state-sponsored eugenics. This will be used to strengthen the White population until they are able to wrest control of North America and Western Europe from the hostile elites and their army of greedy “migrants.”

The new ethnostate will be constitutionally grounded on Aristotelian political philosophy and neoDarwinian biology; it will be a meritocracy based on eugenic principles. Eugenics, the scientific ideological core of the new White nationalism, is easily reconciled with the aristocratic political science of Aristotle; both are concerned with the development and formation of the best possible citizen, one along genetic and the other along characterological lines. Aristotelian philosophy is based on a linear hierarchical conception of reality; this overlaps with the dominance hierarchies of the animal kingdom and of all human socio-political organization. Furthermore, the capacity for superior moral development is improved substantially by superior genes. In an Aristotelian political order informed by eugenic principles, the state would ensure that all citizens have both the mental and physical capacity to live the good life. Mandatory genetic screening would be one of the conditions of citizenship; those at risk of transmitting hereditary diseases or conditions, such as criminality or low IQ, would undergo compulsory eugenic sterilization. Only the best and most virtuous citizens, the biologically and intellectually superior “aristoi” or natural-born aristocrats, would be the ones allowed total freedom of action in the political sphere.

In the ethnostate, the aristoi of the White race will determine who must give birth and who must be sterilized. These men are not petty bureaucrats, but aristocrats selected on the basis of health and IQ. Their sole task is the promotion of White racial survival, whatever the cost. For those who believe eugenic sterilization is barbarous and cruel, allowing the birth of children who suffer from mental retardation or cystic fibrosis is much, much worse. For this reason, only the healthiest, high-IQ females will be allowed to breed, even being massively incentivized to do so. Encouraging the natural increase of healthy, intelligent Whites, at the expense of the low IQ and genetically unfit, is the most White nationalist thing a White man can do for his race.

Some will necessarily object: “But state-sponsored eugenics will infringe on individual rights and freedoms!” This is a common, but groundless objection. The “right to procreate” is not an absolute. In 7 utilitarian ethics, rights are never ends in themselves; they exist to maximize the happiness of the greatest number and must be tempered by social obligation. Furthermore, not all men have the capacity for individual freedom. The Greek philosopher Aristotle recognized the existence of natural slavery because of the inability of some to reason autonomously, even though they may be responsive to reasoned instruction. Whether a man is free or not must be determined by his capacity to reason (for us, his IQ).

Legislation regulating some of the most intimate areas of our lives is hardly controversial; if we allow government to enforce this legislation, ostensibly in the interest of public safety, why not allow government to decide who gets to reproduce and who doesn’t? If the low IQ and genetically unfit are allowed to breed recklessly, as they do now, Western civilization will eventually be reduced to smoldering ruins. Unregulated breeding is far more dangerous than any black market specializing in the sale of illicit firearms or drugs. Society would be much safer if it allowed every citizen to acquire large arsenals of weapons without special licensing, but criminalized the marriage and procreation of the low IQ and genetically unfit.

If a large minority of race-conscious Whites emigrate, seceding from the leftist totalitarian state to independently pursue their own racial interests, reversal of dysgenic fertility and Third World “immigration” may be accomplished within a few generations. As race-conscious Whites strengthen their race through genetic enhancement, the totalitarian left will get weaker, forced to increasingly rely on low-IQ Whites and “migrants” for manpower. From their bases in the Pacific Northwest or Lapland, race-conscious Whites, stronger and more intelligent than ever before, would raid globalist-occupied territory, slowly enlarging their own dominions until the reconquest of North America and Western Europe has been completed. This is not without historical precedent. Medieval Spanish Christians, reduced to a small area of their own country, seized the emirates of Mohammedan Andalusia one by one, until the last emirate of Granada had been defeated, its Moorish inhabitants expelled from the Iberian peninsula in 1492.

Race-conscious Whites must live, think and breathe race, just as they did during the long and distinguished reign of Queen Victoria, when Whites were at the peak of their intellectual and artistic powers. In this age of drab multicultural uniformity, the White man’s race is his most formidable weapon, a thorn in the side of those who wish to replace him with the low IQ peasant masses of the Middle East, Africa, South Asia and Latin America. Nothing terrifies the hostile elites more than the prospect of encountering race-conscious White men bred for superior intellect and physical strength, able to aggressively pursue their own racial interests undeterred by elite and non-White hostility.

SMASHKING84 #fundie gamefaqs.com

One thing i will say about the whole flying spaghetti monster analogy:the idea of god is far far more likely then that.

the whole idea that because you cannot prove something exist it must not exist doesn't work either.

After all Can you prove that I'm not a figment of your imagination? not unless we meet in real life.
I can assure you i do in fact exist.

Igor Krichtafovitch #crackpot vixra.org

Information as the Evolution Driving Force

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In contrast, a homo genus is the least accommodated to live on this planet. None of the homo habilis, homo erectus, and later inhabitants passed the survivability test. Furthermore, they all extinct. Homo sapiens, the only lone survivor, also was on the brink of extinction at least three times. Twice we barely escaped the extinction having slipped through the bottleneck of mitochondrial Eve 2 and Y-chromosome Adam 3. After evading these Scylla and Charybdis,powerful Toba super-eruption occurred about 74 thousand years ago. According to some theories, that event brought the human population to a mere 3,000-10,000 individuals. There is a growing body of literature casting a doubt on the very pillar of Darwinian theory: the natural selection by the survival of the fittest 4-8.
Should natural selection had been a real cause of the evolution of living species then fragile humans should gradually evolve into some fitter races. The natural evolution would change hairless bipedal feeble creatures into more robust primates, then to better fit mammals, and, eventually, to krill and single-celled bacteria. Some prominent scientists are not fond of and warn about “the obsession with natural selection” 9.
The irrefutable fact is that new species evolve and the evolution goes steadily in one dominant direction. The development vector does not point to the direction of highest survivability or productivity. As Richard Bird 8 put it: “Life increases in complexity in one specific sense; computational complexity.” Such statement is so obvious that it hardly can be argued against.

[…]

The evolution’s driver is not a survival of the fittest. It is an inescapable necessity of intelligence and memory storage growth.
Now our Hypothesis arrived at completion. The following postulates may summarize it:
1. Biological evolution as a natural life origin and development is a reality.
2. The evolution is a coordinated and controlled process, not a consequence of random mutations and/or survival of the fittest.
3. The evolution main development vector is a growing computational complexity of the Biosphere intelligence.
4. The intelligent matter which conducts and controls global evolution is a gigantic bio-computer combining all living organisms on Earth: the Global Mind (GM).
5. The GM is a virtual information matter (like a software) based on and running all living cells and organelles. The GM actions are initiated, powered and stimulated by random mutations.
6. Natural selection as a survival of the fittest is the definite factor in horizontal changes, i.e., within same species. The course of vertical evolutionary leaps is pushed by the growing Biosphere memory volume and organisms’ increasing complexity. Greater memory volume requires a greater number and more intellectually advanced organisms for storing and handling it. More intricate organisms require the greater computational complexity of GM in order to keep control over the Biosphere. This is an endless recursive endeavor with accelerated evolutionary dynamic.
7. New species (vertical evolutionary leap) occur when two conditions are met: a) global memory storage volume reaches its limit and b) global intelligence capacity (computational complexity) reaches critical mass capable of producing more advanced creatures.

The Hypothesis presented here does not contradict the naturalistic concept of life creation and evolution. It is not meant Darwinian concepts’ denial. It simply shows a different degree of the natural processes. The proposed concept may not be proven yet. I do not have a good evidence for the most claims and must rely on intuition.
However, as Karl Popper suggested a good theory is the one that has greater explanatory power. The Hypothesis logically resolves many puzzling problems with current state evolution theory. Some of them are listed below (I will address these issues at length in the oncoming publication):
1. Speciation, as a result of GM purposeful design.
2. Evolution development vector, as a need for better global intelligence.
3. Punctuated equilibrium, happening when two above conditions a) and b) are met.
4. Cambrian explosion, as a most pronounced case of punctuated equilibrium .
5. Mass extinctions, happening when more intelligent species should replace outdated creatures.
6. Why lab mutation long-term experiments do not result in new speciation? In these experiments “the critical mass” was not reached.
7. Why creatures fall asleep? GM has to communicated with individual living organisms in order to collect data and correct mutational errors.
8. Why is no paradise on the Earth? GM needs alert living organisms. It forces them to be active and creative.

Dr. Edson Andre' Johnson #fundie en.wikipedia.org

Perhaops Khazars and Askanazi jew2s not so far fetched?

Perhaps the Khazar theory of western Jews (as oppossed to sephedic jews of the mid east) Not so far fectched? Know that the genetic diase G6Pd prevelant amng middle easter "tribees' Greeks, Sehapdic jews etc? Yet, this genetic ailment rARE in Ashkanazi jews? (Severe hemolytic anemia especally in contact with the plant Vicia faba Fava beans) Anti semetism aside. If some or most Ashkanazi jews were from the Khazer tribe(s) wouldnt that make thenm NOT TO bLAME FOR THE "KILLING' OF JESUS? Since they didnt convert to Judism till thousand years or so after Christ was Crucuified