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The esteemed commentator Chinzork wrote:

For one of the first posts on this blog, I think you should debunk all of the common talking points against abolishing the AOC. The talking points get repetitive after a while, so an article debunking all of them sounds good.

Alright then, you got it. Herein is a compilation of the 15 most popular Blue Knight arguments, each argument followed by a thorough dissection thereof.

#1: Teenagers only become sexually mature after completing puberty around 16.

This is a wholly metaphysical proposition; a statement of belief. The Blue Knight starts out from the premise that a “completion of puberty” is a prerequisite for this nebulous state known as “sexual maturity,” then makes the circular argument that, because a 13-year-old has not yet completed puberty, he or she are thus sexually immature. “Sexual maturity” is an altogether arbitrary concept, and there isn’t any way to measure it or test it.

The Blue Knight makes it seem like he or she has objectively examined the issue and reached the conclusion that the age of “sexual maturity” just so happens to start when puberty is over; but there has not actually been any such objective examination of the issue – it simply has been assumed (axiomatically) that this is the case, and the whole “argument” proceeds from this unproven, arbitrary, and essentially metaphysical assumption.

The Blue Knight argument posits that 1) without “sexual maturity” sex is harmful and as such should be illegal; 2) a full completion of puberty is a prerequisite for “sexual maturity.” You may well give the following counter-argument, accepting — for the sake of discussion — the former premise, while rejecting the latter, and say thus: “children become sexually mature after completing adrenarche around the age of 9.”

Fundamentally, however, I have seen no evidence whatsoever that a “sexually immature” person is necessarily harmed (or victimized) by sexual relations merely due to being, according to whatever arbitrary definitions one uses, a “sexually immature” person. I suspect that, as a matter of fact, “sexually immature” people often enjoy sex and benefit from it even more than the so-called “sexually mature” folks. And again, the very distinction between “mature” and “immature” is altogether metaphysical in this regard, like the distinction between “pure” and “impure” or “holy” and “unholy.” It is hocus pocus; theology not-so-cleverly disguised as biology.

According to Blue Knight “morality,” an extremely fertile 15-year-old female should be prevented from sex (because “sexually immature”), while a 55-year-old female who has no ovaries left should be free do get fucked however she likes. It is very clear that such a “morality” is really an anti-morality; it is against what is biologically natural, it is against human nature specifically, it is degenerate, and it is detrimental to the interests of civilization and the TFR.

#2: The Age of Consent protects young people from doing things (sex) which they don’t really want to do.

I have seen no evidence that young people “do not really want” to have sex. On the contrary, I have seen, and keep seeing, that young people greatly desire to engage in sexual activities. That is why they engage in them. If 11-year-old Lucy is a horny little slut who enjoys giving blowjobs to all the boys in the neighborhood (many such cases), the Age of Consent does not protect her from something which she is reluctant about doing; it prevents her — by deterring men from approaching her — from doing something which she does in fact desire to do.

The Age of Consent is simply not needed. Think for a moment about young people. Do you not realize that they are just as eccentric, and can be just as wild, as older people? Why is it that when a 19-year-old chick randomly decides to have an orgy with 3 classmates after school, that is okay; but when a 12-year-old chick likewise randomly decides to do just that, oh noes, she is a “victim” of a horrible crime? We accept that each person is unique, independently of age; and we realize that there are children –not to mention young adults — who are very much into X while others are very much into Y. Why, then, should it be so “shocking” when it turns out that some children, and plenty of young teenagers, are very much into sex? Being interested in sex is arguably one of the most natural things there are, on par with being interested in food; certainly it is more natural than being interested in physics and chemistry and mathematics, right? If we accept the existence of child prodigies, children who are naturally driven to pursue all kinds of weird and special callings, why can’t we accept that there are indeed lots of children who pursue the very natural thing which is called “sex”?

Young teenagers have extremely high sex-drives, and the idea that they “do not really want sex” is contradicted every single moment. This is all the more remarkable given that we are living in a puritanical, prudish, sex-hostile, joy-killing, pedo-hysterical, infantilizing society; yet teenagers manage to overcome this intense anti-natural social programming, and do what nature commands them to do. “Child innocence” is a self-perpetuating myth, which society shoves down the throats of everyone all the time since age 0, and then uses this self-perpetuating myth which has been forcefully injected into society’s bloodstream to argue that “oh gee, young people just don’t really want to have sex.”

The entire entertainment establishment is concomitantly brainwashing children to remain in a state of arrested development aka infantilization, while conditioning the consumers of this “entertainment” to only find old women attractive. That’s one reason why I believe that we must create Male Sexualist aesthetics – we must reverse the brainwashing done to us by the entertainment complex. The television box is deliberately hiding from you the beauty and the passion of young teenage women, and is actively engineering your mind to only find older women attractive. And yet, despite there being a conspiracy by the entire society to stifle young sexuality, young sexuality lives on and thrives. Well, not really “thrives” — young sex is in decline, which conservative total dipshits blame on pornography rather than pointing the finger at themselves for propagating a climate that is extremely hostile to young sexuality — but it still goes on, to the consternation of all Puritans and Feminists everywhere.

Blue Knights claim that young teenagers are “peer-pressured into sex.” This assumes that your average teenager is asexual or close to being asexual, and thus would only engage in sexual activities if manipulated into it by his or her environment. The reality, meanwhile, is that those 12-year-old sluts who have orgies after school time (or during school time) are often as horny as a 16-year-old male. They are not being pressured into sex – they are being sexually restrained by a society that is terrified of young sexuality.

#3: Young people who have sex grow up to regret it.

First of all, when the whole of society is determined to portray young sex as a horrid thing, it is no wonder that people — especially women, who possess a herd mentality — arrive at the conclusion that they’ve been harmed by it. If young sexuality were presented in a positive light by the media-entertainment-state bureaucracy-academia complex, people would be more inclined to remember it fondly than regretfully.

The second thing is that it doesn’t even matter. People feel regret about doing all kinds of things – so what? Does that mean that for each and every case of such “regret,” society needs to go on a witch-hunt for “victimizers” in order to inflict punishments upon them? It’s time to grow the fuck up and accept the fact that people sometimes do things which later on they regret doing, and that this is an integral part of life, and that the state has no business protecting the civilians from “bad feelings.” That’s literally what this Blue Knight argument boils down to – “the state should punish men because women experience negative feelings due to their own behavior.” No, women should learn to deal with their bad fee-fees without demanding the state to find “abusers” to penalize. We are living in a totalitarian emotocracy (rule by emotions) and I’m sick of it.

Also: what is the difference between feeling regret about fucking at 13 and feeling regret about fucking at 17? Women generally feel bad about promiscuous sex (hence the phenomenon of “regret rape” false accusations), and they feel it at the age of 21 as much as at the age of 11; actually, older women may be even more regretful than young ones about sexual activity, because they’v been longer exposed to Puritan-Feminist brainwashing, and because their biological clock ticks much faster. So, according to the victimization-based morality of Blue Knights, men who sleep with 23-year-olds should also be punished. Again, the Blue Knights want men imprisoned solely due to some vague negative fee-fees felt by some women. This is emotocracy in action. No wonder that testosterone and sperm counts are in sharp decline – society is ruled by catladies, and is structured according to catlady morality.

The state simply should not protect people from the consequences of their own behavior – and here “protect” means “punish men,” and “consequences” means “vague negative fee-fees.” Our society is severely infantilized by the victimization-based morality, and infantilization is degenerate.

#4: Young sexual activity is correlated with many bad things.

That may or may not be so, but what are the implications? Generally, people who are natural risk-takers will do all kinds of things, some of which may be positive, others negative, and still others just neutral. The conservadaddy making the “correlated with bad things” argument implies that punishing men (and women) for young sex would somehow reduce those negative things supposedly correlated with young sex. That, of course, is bullshit. If a risk-taking 12-year-old decides to have an orgy with her classmates, she will remain just as much of a risk-taker whether or not her classmates or other people are punished. Depriving her of the opportunity to take “sexual risks” won’t diminish whatever other risk-taking behaviors she is prone to.

The thing about Blue Knight arguments is that they aren’t arguments at all. There is no logic in stating “young sex is correlated with X, and X is bad” and then using that to support the criminalization of young sex. This is the same logic used by pedagogues to justify pedagoguery, only in reverse: the pedagogues argue that education is correlated with intelligence (as measured by IQ tests), then use that claim to imply that education makes people smarter, and therefore everyone should undergo education. This is a wholly fallacious argument. At the risk of sounding like a spergtastic redditor goon – correlation does not imply causation. The Blue Knight argument is not an argument at all. It’s plainly illogical.

By the way, I’d say that there are plenty of negative things correlated with young sexlessness – such as growing up to be a school shooter, for instance. You’ll never hear Blue Knights discussing that.

#5: Some Statutory Rape legislation allows teenagers to have sex among themselves, and only prohibits older people from predating upon them.

This argument typifies what I call the “victimization-based morality” aka “victimology.” The people making it assume — against all the available evidence — that within any relationship between a young person and an old person, the former is necessarily victimized by the latter.

The individuals making this argument (usually you’ll hear it from women) will often tell you that it is “creepy” for older men to be interested in young women. They will pretend that young women are exclusively attracted to young men, when in reality they are attracted to men of all ages – to men as old as their father as well as to their classmates. My own life experience confirms this, as I personally, in-real-life, know of women who fucked significantly older men when they were aged 14-15. It was all passionate and voluntary and enthusiastic, believe me. And the many accounts you can find on the internet leave no doubt that it’s common for young women, pubescent and even prepubescent, to be sexually attracted to significantly older men.

It is important to stress the point that the women themselves pursue and desire those sexual relationships, because the Blue Knights have created the false impression that the entire argument for abolishing the AOC rests on our attraction to young women, an attraction which according to the Blue Knights is completely unreciprocated; whereas in reality, it is incredibly common for young women to initiate sexual relationships with men as old as their father. It takes two to tango – and the tango is quite lively indeed. Given the sexual dynamics elucidated by Heartiste, wherein women are sexually attracted to “Alphas,” it makes perfect sense that young women would be sexually attracted to older men even more-so than they are sexually attracted to their peers, since older men possess a higher social status than young ones, relatively speaking. Again, life experience confirms this.

Thus, there is no sense in punishing old men who fuck young women, unless, that is, one embraces the whole “taken advantage of” argument, an argument which relies on a denial of the biological and empirical reality on the ground, and simply defines (as an axiom) all relationships in which there is a “power imbalance” as “exploitative.” That is, there is no evidence that any “exploitation” is taking place in such relationships, and Blue Knights assume its existence because they refuse to believe that young women can be horny for older men.

Also, the Blue Knights will bring up argument #1 to “substantiate” argument #5, and argue that due to the “sexual immaturity” of the younger party, the older party must be forbidden from being in a sexual relationship with it altogether – because otherwise there may be “exploitation.” Again, the moment you realize that a 12-year-old female can be as horny as a 16-year-old male (who are, needless to say, extremely horny), the idea that the slut is prone to be “sexually exploited” by a sexual relationship with a man who is statistically likely to be high-status (and thus naturally sexually attractive to her) become absurd. And as we’ve seen, the whole “sexually immature” line is ridiculous – it has never been shown that maturity, for whatever it’s even worth, is reached at 16. In saner, de-infantilized times, 12-year-olds were considered to be mature, were treated as such, and evidently were mature. Hence my saying: “child (and teen) innocence is a self-perpetuating myth.”

#6: You only support abolishing the AOC because you’re a pervert.

A common ad hominem. Now, it is expected that possession of a naturally high sex-drive would be correlated with sexual realism (i.e. being woke about the reality of sex), because a high sex-drive individual would be much likelier than a low sex-drive individual to spend hours upon hours thinking about the subject of sex in its various and manifold aspects. But that only goes to prove that it is us, the “perverts,” who were right all along about sex – and not the catladies and the asexuals who haven’t ever thought about sex in realistic terms because they never had any incentive to do so. Our “bias” is a strength, not a weakness.

There really isn’t anything else to add here. When they accuse you of being a pervert, just agree & amplify humorously: “oh yeah, I jerk off 8 times each and every morning before getting out of bed – problem, puritan?”

#7: You only support abolishing the AOC because you are unattractive and trying to broaden your options.

Also known as “projection.” Well, actually, there also are men who make this argument and not just dried-out wrinkly femihags, so let’s address it as if a man said it. Again, this is an ad hominem that presupposes that your motivation to engage in sexual politics of the Male Sexualist variety is merely your desire to improve your personal situation in life. Now, even if it were true, that 1) wouldn’t matter, because what matters is the arguments made and not the ostensible motivation behind them; 2) there is nothing essentially wrong with trying to improve one’s situation in life – and “there are no rules in war and love.”

By the way, abolishing the AOC, by itself, is not going to get all of the incels laid over-night. There are other measures that must and will be taken to ensure sexual contentment for all of society. Abolishing the AOC is a crucial part of the program, but it’s not the single purpose of Male Sexualism, in my view. What I personally would like to see in society is maximal sexual satisfaction for everyone. There are many ways to try reaching that point.

Anyway, the point is that “you are motivated by a desire to increase your options” is not even true regarding most of the prominent Male Sexualists. Presumably. I won’t speak for anyone else, but I’m married, and very satisfied with my great wife.

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Big Beautiful Women are not for everyone, but I’m cool with it. In this scene from the Israeli film “Tikkun,” my wife — who is an actress — plays a prostitute. Sorry, Nathan Larson, I’m not sending you her nudes; this one should suffice.
As a matter of fact, as I wrote in one of the last posts on DAF, my own kind of activism would not be mentally possible for me if I were not sexually satisfied. I’m not driven by a personal sexual frustration; on the contrary, as I keep saying, what drives me is essentially a spiritual impulse, which has awoken to the extent it has as a result of getting laid.

#8: If you support the abolition of the AOC, it’s because you’re a libertine who believes in “everything goes.”

Some Male Sexualists are, unmistakably, libertines – and proud if it. However, others are faithful Muslims. The notion that opposition to the AOC must necessarily be tied to libertinism is nonsense. Look at traditional European societies 350-300 years ago – almost none had an AOC at all, yet they were hardly “libertines.”

This Blue Knight line is somewhat related to the “LGBTP” meme – they think that we are Progressives trying to advocate for pedophilia as part of a Progressive worldview. I think that it’s safe to say that no one in Male Sexualism belongs to the Progressive camp, which is the camp where Feminists and SJWs reside. That said, some versions of libertinism (sexual libertarianism?) aren’t so bad, anyway. As TheAntifeminist said in a comment at Holocaust21:

[M]y utopia as a male sexualist would be somewhere like 1970’s Sweden or Holland.

This is a legitimate view within the movement.

#9: If young people are allowed to have sex, their innocence will be ruined; sex is exclusively for adults.

Here we see the Enlightenment-spawned Romantic idealization of “childhood” as a period that, due to whatever values one attaches to it, must be preserved against encroachment and incursion from the “fallen world of adults.” This is the Romantic basis of modern-day infantilism.

It used to be understood that the purpose of “childhood” is growing up into adulthood. The so-callef ‘child’ should be made into an adult, should be given adult tasks, adult responsibilities, and — all the sooner — adult rights. Today, society does just the opposite, and infantilizes people with a historically unparalleled intensity. That’s the result of elevating “childhood” into an ideal form. No wonder that now, it’s not just teenagers who are called “children,” but people in their 20s. That’s the process of infantilization which society goes through.

As usual, conservative dipshits, addicted to their own Romantic conceptions, claim that “actually, children are not nearly infantile enough these days.” They don’t see the pervasive “kid culture” that has completely zombified kids into being basically a bunch of drooling retards; no, what the prudish-types care about is “MOAR INNOCENCE,” as usual.

Fact is, kids today are not shown anything about the real world; a whole culture of idiocy, blindness, silliness, and clownishness has been erected like walls all around them. It is the culture of the TV channels for kids, the culture of Toy-Shops, the culture of child-oriented video games. Muh “birds and bees.”

Look, I get the temptation to indulge in infantilism. In fact, I’m probably a hypocrite, because I haven’t yet begun doing anything to de-infantilize my own 19-month-old son. He, like most toddlers, also watches the stupid TV shows and has all of these damn toys all over the place. It’s not easy resisting the ways of the system. But the real problem is that society is not structured in a way that allows children to be de-infantilized. When people only get a job at 18 or at 21 or they are NEETs, and there is an age-ist Prussian School System that is mandatory and which brainwashes its prisoners to believe that “school is good,” and Feminist careerism is pushed on all potential mothers by the media-entertainment-state bureaucracy-academia complex, it’s no wonder that people are very immature nowadays. That only goes to show how radically modern society must be transformed, in my opinion.

To get back on point: “childhood” and “adulthood” are both fictional concepts. These may be useful fictions, but they are still fictions. The telos of childhood is adulthood. It’s a transitional state, and if we must choose an arbitrary age when childhood should be officially and finally over, that age should be 9. That is, if we discover that 10-year-olds behave in an infantile manner nowadays, it’s because their parents — and, crucially, society at large — have not properly de-infantilized them. It’s a wholly artificial state of affairs, rooted in Romantic delusions.

Young people should have sex, because young people should experience real life in order to become functional adults; and an integral part of real life is — and should be — the sex life. Far from constituting a “problem” for young people, sexual intercourse is one effective way for getting young people to see the broader picture of reality. Deprived of sex, ‘kids’ grow up with warped and unrealistic notions about reality, and suffer dysfunction as adults. They don’t get to learn what’s important and what’s unimportant in life when they should learn it – young. Getting laid gives you a mentally clear vision of priorities in life, gives you a clarity of mind which allows you to deeply reflect on what’s actually going on in the world. Sex is necessary for young people, whose one and only task is to — repeat after me — become adults. Sex is a fundamental part of a fulfilled adult life.

#10: Young sex leaves young people traumatized.

No, it doesn’t. The ‘trauma’ stems entirely from being repeatedly and incessantly told by Blue Knights (Puritans, Feminists, Conservadaddies, Catladies, etc.) that a horrible crime has been committed against you by a wicked individual, that you have been “taken advantage of,” “deprived of innocence,” “ruined forever,” “sexually exploited,” “abused,” and the rest of the victimological jargon. The sex itself and the relationship itself feel good, and are indeed good biologically and psychologically; they bring fulfillment to one’s life and a satisfaction for one’s fresh and burning biological needs. The whole “trauma,” such as it is, is inflicted by society on the younger party, due to society’s strict adherence to a victimization-based morality.

That’s why I call for a Moral Revolution. This is not a troll. As long as people adhere to a victimization-based morality that sees “power imbalances” as inherently and fundamentally victimizing, people won’t be able to think logically about young sexuality. The current prevailing system of social morality must be replaced with a new one. Once that is achieved, all of this “trauma” — which is inflicted by the Blue Knights on horny young people — will dissipate and evaporate altogether

Young people greatly enjoy sex, and will go to great lengths to achieve it, overcoming the very many mechanisms of sexual oppression established by Blue Knights.

#11: Young people don’t know what’s good for them, and therefore need to be protected from risky situations.

If young people don’t know what’s good for them, it’s because society itself has successfully destroyed their ability to know what’s good for them. I mean, by the age of 10, a person should have a basic idea about what life is all about. If that’s not so for most or all people, something is deeply rotten in society.

And the reason for this indeed being the modern state of affairs is exactly because the protectiveness of parents, combined with wholesale cultural infantilization, has rendered young people incapable of independent thought. Thus, instead of “MOAR PROTECTION,” young people need infinitely less of it – so that they will learn to deal with reality.

And at any rate, sex is not as risky as the Blue Knights claim it is. They scare people about STDs, but then the solutions to that problem are well-known, and are completely independent of age – if instructed properly, and possessing a responsible personality, a 10-year-old can behave just as carefully — if not much more carefully — than many 40-year-olds.

Then there is the issue of pregnancy. First of all, what I wrote in the above paragraph about responsiblity applies here as well – the pregnancy-avoidance methods are well known. Secondly however, there’s a great differences in here: pregnancy is not a disease. It’s not a bad thing, but a good thing. I support young pregnancy and young parenthood. That is the primary “risk” which Blue Knight scare-mongers warn about, and I don’t see it as a risk at all. Instead of being protected from reproduction, people need to be instructed about how to reproduce. I once wrote, trollishly as usual, that if there should be any schools at all, then the “homework” of young females should be getting impregnated. The essence beneath the statement is on-point: pregnancy is good, because reproduction is good; fertility is good, while sterility is bad.

So, in my view, young people should not be protected from the “risk” of pregnancy. They should be instructed about it, made to comprehend the how’s and why’s of it, and then allowed to use their mind-faculties to figure-out what should or should not be done. That’s the gist of any de-infantilization program.

#12: Young people don’t desire to have sex.

Young people do, as a matter of actual fact, very much desire to have sex; much more-so, even, than many old people.

#13: If the AOC is abolished, parents will no longer be able to control their children.

What is the purpose — the very raison d’etre — of parental control over children? To turn children into functional adults, so as to allow them to form families and continue the bloodline. This cannot be achieved by hindering the ability of children (or “children”) to engage in the one thing that marks the arrival of maturity – sexual activity. Sexual activity is the thing that most unequivocally transforms an un-developed person into a developed person. Since the purpose of parenthood is the creation of adults, parenthood should serve to (at the very least) give-way in face of the natural maturation of children, rather than artificially prolonging “childhood” in order to extend the period of parental control. Parental control is only good insofar as it allows parents to facilitate the de-infantilization of their children; when, as in our deplorable times, parental control is used to exacerbate the infantilization of children, it is in the interest of society to tell parents to fuck off.

Since parents these days abuse their parental power and authority by artificially prolonging the infantilization of their own children, the abolition of the anti-natural AOC is exactly a thing that is needed in order to put parental control in check. The power of parents vis-a-vis their children must be drastically reduced when the child reaches the age of 8. That’s usually the age when sex, reproduction, and marriage all become relevant. If you want to argue that 8 is still too young, perhaps (maybe) we can compromise on 10. Point is, between 8 and 10, parental power should be dramatically restricted.

As a 23-year-old father, I can tell you that parents and family in general continue to significantly shape your life long after you cease being under “parental control.” An abolition of the AOC won’t result in all teenagers running away from home never to be seen again. But it will, God willing, result in the establishment of many new young households. That is something that we should strive for – getting teenagers to form families. That is the meaning of creating adults.

#14: Without an AOC, there will be grey-zone situations of child prostitution.

Child prostitution should be legal.

#15: Abolishing the AOC will increase pre-marital sex, which is a bad thing.

First of all, I couldn’t care less about whether or not sex is “pre-marital.” I had fucked my wife and impregnated her before we were married; so what? What matters is the bottom line: the creation of a patriarchal and stable household.

The second thing is, people today marry extremely late, and many forgo marriage altogether. This is related to the war against young sexuality: not reproducing when young, people struggle to reproduce when old; and living in sexlessness until the late teens or early twenies (or until later than that), a total sexual dysfunction takes over society, and people find it difficult to form long-lasting relationships at all. Young love shines the brightest, the younger the love, the brighter it shines; couples who start young last longer than those who start old.

Puritanical Blue Knights have brought about the plummeting of the TFR in Western Society. In my view, pre-marital sex should be accepted, as long as everyone involved understands that the purpose of any “romance” is the formation of a household. Early teenage marriage should be encouraged, and if early teenage sexual intercourse facilitates that, so be it – it’s all the better. It is not sex that is harmful to young people; sex is good for them. It is sexlessness that is the central and overarching problem of our times.

In conclusion
Man, that was exhausting, I gotta say. But hopefully, this post will serve as a guide to answering Blue Knight talking points. All of you must remember this: before you can annihilate Blue Knightism, you must mentally internalize what it is that we Male Sexualists believe in. In moments of uncertainty and doubt, consult this post, and you may find the core idea needed for you in order to formulate your own Male Sexualist position about any given issue.

There is a new revolution on the horizon. I don’t know how long I personally have left in this world. Perhaps the intelligence operatives threatening me will decide against killing me, or maybe they’ll slay me this very night. Who knows. What I want you to do is to take the ideas provided on DAF and now on TAF, understand them, and spread them. This is not a cult of personality or a money-making scheme. This is a political movement that has its own ideas, ideas that may initially appear groundbreaking but which in reality may also be primordial, ideas which we hope will be implemented in reality – be it 30, 80, or 360 years from now. At some point in the future, somewhere on the face of our planet, there will be a Male Sexualist country.

If during the next half-decade we manage to bring into the fold both edgy 4channers and 8channers (“meme lords”), and serious, intelligent, competent, affluent, deep-thinking, and strategizing supporters, we will be able within several decades to achieve our political objective.

James L. Melton #fundie av1611.org

Over the years, being hard-pressed for real evidence, the evolutionists have managed to conjure up a number of "proofs" that Darwin's theory is a scientific fact. This so-called "evidence" is worshipped by all evolutionists, while all contrary evidence is ignored. Let's consider some of their evidence.

VESTIGIAL ORGANS are believed by evolutionists to be parts of the human body that are no longer needed. Therefore these useless body parts must be "left-overs" from our ancestors, the monkeys. These "useless" body parts include the appendix, the coccyx (tail bone), the pineal gland, the plica semilunaris, the tonsils, and the ear lobes.

Naturally, the facts are ignored. Many medical doctors agree that all of these organs have important functions in the human body, and aren't "vestigial organs" in any sense. The appendix contains a rich blood supply which serves as some defense against cancer. The tail bone isn't where your monkey tail used to be, as Darwinians believe, but it instead provides support for the muscles which control elimination. The pineal gland contains important hormones which the body needs. The plica semilunaris helps to keep foreign particles out of the eye, and the tonsils help to keep foreign particles out of your child's throat. The tonsils also help to keep infection from spreading. Yes, even the ear lobe has a purpose, for it helps to keep our ears warm during cold weather.

Another "proof" for evolution is found in the field of BIOCHEMISTRY. This is where scientists mix genes and chromosomes in their effort to prove relation between man and animal.

Is there any conclusive evidence? No there isn't. Any learned scientist should be familiar with the rather embarrassing test conclusions of Dr. Nutall back in 1904. Nutall's tests concluded that baboons and hoofed animals are related to whales, that pigs are related to tigers, and that black people are related to monkeys! There isn't one ounce of real evidence anywhere in the entire field of biochemistry which proves that men and animals are kin--just theories and wishful thinking.

EMBRYOLOGY is another field of study. This is where unborn embryos are studied in order to detect the preformed shape of humans and animals. This is the field where we find Haeckel talking about "ONTOGENY RECAPITULATES PHYLOGENY" This is the belief that every individual passes through the many evolutionary stages while still in the mother's womb. That is, you body took on the shape of an amoeba, then a paramecium, then a jelly fish, then a fish, then a bunch of other creatures during the nine months prior to your birth. Of course, this theory ignores the fact that respiratory systems develop LATE in the human embryo. So how did early mammal life exist without breathing? They've also ignored the fact that the head of an unborn baby is larger than the body, which is NOT the case with fish.

Professor Waldo Sumway, of Stephens Institute of Technology, says that "There is never a time in the development of a mammal when it could have been mistaken for a fish or reptile."

Now we come to the wonderful world of TAXONOMY, where cartoon charts are used to artificially classify bones in order to "prove" evolution. This is where evolutionists develop a "disneyland" mentally and construct a chart which shows the earth to be about 4.5 billion years old. Then they proceed to divide this chart up into various time frames containing hundreds of millions of years each. As new discoveries are found, the scientists conveniently place them at selected places on the chart.

This would be a dandy little system, except for one minor problem: THEY'VE NEVER PROVEN THE ORIGINAL CHART! It's nothing more than blind guesswork. No one has ever proven that the earth is 4.5 billion years old. The chart is NOT scientific. In fact, many scientists believe that the earth isn't over 6,000 to 10,000 years old! Of course, all opposing views are ignored by evolutionary scientists, for they need a nice big time period in which to place their new findings. You've heard of people "buying time?" Well, evolutionists just DREAM IT UP.

Another "proof" for evolution is COMPARATIVE ANATOMY, the belief that similar bone structures prove animal kin through evolution. That is, if two different animals have similar bone structures, then they must have evolved from the same original ancestors. Of course, this is more

nonsense. Any scientist knows perfectly well that many such bone structures are produced by entirely DIFFERENT GENES, thus proving that they are in NO WAY RELATED! In fact, if similar bone structure proves anything, it proves that these animals were created by the same God!

The sixth argument used to support evolution is the so-called FOSSIL EVIDENCE. The evolutionist believes that the fossil record proves a progressive evolution of the species over millions of years, beginning with non-living matter. This non-living matter supposedly evolves into protozoans, and the protozoans evolve into metazoan invertebrates, which evolve into vertebrate fishes. The fishes evolve into amphibians, which evolve into reptiles, which evolve into birds. The birds then evolve into fur-bearing quadrupeds (animals with 4 legs), and these quadrupeds evolve into apes, and the apes evolve into man.

Now for those who actually believe such a fable, we have a question: WHERE ARE THE TRANSITIONAL FORMS? If all of those life forms survived by changing into higher life forms, then would someone please show us one living example of this today? Where can we observe a reptile who is slowly changing into a bird? How about a bird who is turning into a four-legged animal? This is one of the strongest arguments against evolution: NO TRANSITIONAL FORMS. Even Darwin realized this in his "Origin of the Species" when he said that "this is the most obvious of the many objections which may be argued against it." (Vol. 2, 6th Ed. p. 49)

Yes, it certainly is. The more the fossil record builds, the weaker the theory of evolution becomes, because the needed transitional forms are NOT BEING FOUND to link the species! They never will be found, because the species are NOT LINKED (I Cor. 15:38-39).

The evolutionist also runs into another problem when he considers WHERE and HOW many fossils are found. The devout evolutionist subscribes to the belief that things are pretty much the same as always. He believes that there have been no major world catastrophes to wipe out animal life, but that various species have become extinct as a result of failing to adapt to their environment. The problem with this is the stubborn fact that there are many burial sites around the world which are literally paved with fossils! Often times such fossils are found in a totally different climate from that in which they once lived. Mammoths have been found frozen, preserved perfectly in ice in Northern Siberia and Alaska. Many of these are very large and strong animals, which evolutionists claim should have survived and overcame any obstacles. BUT THEY DIDN'T! What happened? Why did they die out? How can evolution explain this? Evolution CAN'T explain it. Evolution IGNORES it. It is explained in Genesis chapters 6, 7 and 8--the Flood.

Elizabeth Minkel #sexist medium.com

Mary Sue
From self-inserts to imagines, how young women write themselves into the narrative
Illustration by the incredible Maia Kobabe

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1.

Let’s start with the woman in question. She isn’t usually called Mary Sue—she has a less plausible, more fanciful name. Similarly, she has less plausible, more fanciful physical features than your average girl: purple eyes, or really extraordinary hair. You don’t know her, but you know the characters that surround her—she’s a new student at Hogwarts, an important ally you meet in Rivendell, the person on whom Holmes and Watson will rely to crack the case. She is notably smarter, stronger, and/or more beautiful than her peers. She’s going to save the day—and maybe a character you know will fall in love with her, too. She’s a wholly original character, though she might resemble an idealized version of the author. She’s a super-girl, bending beloved stories around her, heroism in a world mostly made up of heroes.

Oh, also: she is the ultimate object of scorn. She is the literal worst. She is embarrassing, self-indulgent trash; she ruins the story with her competence, her desirability, and the way all those characters you love seem to love her. She’s been described an endless number of colorful ways, including (via Fanlore’s meticulous and depressing entry on Mary Sues) the “literary equivalent of publicly soiling yourself.” She is everything that’s wrong with fanfiction, with girls writing stories, with fangirls, period.

The most basic definition of “Mary Sue” is an original female character in fanfiction—which is largely about established characters and worlds—who is often close to perfect. Like, too perfect. Very good at her job, very desirable romantically or sexually, and sometimes very emotionally moving when she dies, tragically, and the other characters mourn her. The story usually centers around her, often warping established characterization in the process. She’s self-indulgent, to be sure, but she’s harmless, and framed this way, one might wonder why young girls writing themselves into their favorite worlds is the literary equivalent of publicly soiling yourself. If you have to wonder that, though, you might not be familiar with the way the world treats young girls.

“Mary Sue” was coined by Paula Smith in 1970s Star Trek fandom, in a very short story that began, “‘Gee, golly gosh, gloriosky,’ thought Mary Sue as she stepped on the bridge of the Enterprise. ‘Here I am, the youngest lieutenant in the Fleet—only 15–1/2 years old.’” Lieutenant Mary Sue, object of affection of Kirk, Spock, and the rest of the men of Star Trek: TOS, was meant to be a parody of what Smith had observed in the fanzines of the day: “The term caught on because she’s very identifiable: Here it is, that same character, and isn’t it a shame because she’s just so tiresome,” she told an interviewer at Transformative Works and Cultures in 2011.

The conversation, conducted 40 years after Lieutenant Mary Sue first stepped onto the bridge, is an interesting one, not least because of the vague sense of disconnect between the literary analysis around the term (why bending a story around your original character might make for bad fiction, or at least not-terribly-enjoyable fiction if you aren’t the author) and the gendered morass that the term has sunk into (or, arguably, where it began).

Mary Sues weren’t born in Trek fandom—one researcher drew parallels between modern self-insert fic and stories that girls wrote about versions of themselves in the nineteenth century—but the term was born in an era of paper zines, a time of limited space for fanfiction, and arguably one with a different relationship between fic writers and their readers. When she first coined the term, Smith says, “In the letter columns, we started seeing the writers react: ‘What’s so wrong with my story? I’m just telling a story that I think is great.’” Even detractors admit Mary Sues are about young girls finding their power and agency in a world of fictional landscapes that rarely afford such journeys to women. After all, the original Mary Sue was the youngest lieutenant in the Fleet.

The days of limited space and resources in fic production are ancient history: there is always room for another story in the internet’s archives, and the general ethos of the broader fanfiction community has long been “don’t like, don’t read.” Many stories are self-indulgent, whether they feature a stand-in for the author or or not. But hatred of Mary Sues is embedded in the culture, self-perpetuating, and has seemingly ramped up since fic came online. In the early digital days, some archives banned Mary Sues outright; to this day, blogs exist solely to call peoples’ original characters Mary Sues, and to deconstruct and mock them accordingly.

Once the seed was planted in cultural discourse, Mary Sue accusations became impossible to stop—the toxicity surrounding the term has spread far beyond fanfiction self-inserts. Not long after it was coined, “Mary Sue” became any original female character in fanfiction; for decades, women have been reporting that they stopped writing original female characters, then female characters altogether, for fear of the “Mary Sue” label. Canonical female characters seen as threats to male/male romances in fic got the term, too—one notable (and incredibly troubling) example is the treatment of Nyota Uhura in fic about the rebooted Star Trek films. And over the years, the term has seeped across pop culture, to the point where “Mary Sue” becomes any female lead, anywhere. Bella Swan, Katniss Everdeen, and Rey from Star Wars are just a few slapped with the label. It’s just so annoying that their respective plots center around them, they must be Mary Sues.

(There are male Mary Sues, in case you’re wondering: “Marty Stu,” “Gary Stu,” and other variations have shown up over the years. People try to counter, even undercut, the inherent misogyny in the Mary Sue conversation by naming too-competent, too-desirable leading men—Captain Kirk, Luke Skywalker, and James Bond are famous examples. There’s an old joke: “What do you call a male Mary Sue?” The answer? “A protagonist.” It’s…not a particularly funny joke.)

But just as fanfiction writers are fighting back against historical scorn towards the practice at large, in recent years fans have been standing up for Mary Sues, too. Critics of the term are working to excise it from discussions around professional works, where it disproportionally targets women writing novels about female characters. In an act of reclamation, one of the most popular female-led geek sites on the internet took the term for its name. And within fan writing communities, people are going to bat for even the most self-indulgent Mary Sues, questioning why we shame young fans for making themselves the heroes of their own stories. But is a long-embedded stigma that easy to shake?

2.

It feels like every other fanfiction writer you talk to has a tale of their own early Mary Sues. Not everyone got called out for them—plenty of people learned to self-censor when they saw others getting shamed. My podcast partner, Flourish, reports that her early original female character was a student who proved vital to a case that Mulder and Scully were investigating. My first fanfic was almost entirely original characters, sketched out on yellow legal pads—I took a minor character from a book series and gave him a diverse team of corporate executives (don’t ask, it’s a weirdly long explanation). But by age 14, when I fell in love with Buffy and learned about online fandom, I was writing stories featuring a banshee who was old friends with Rupert Giles named…Ophelia. (I swear to God, I had no idea about the implications at the time, I just thought “Ophelia” sounded pretty, just as I loved “Cecilia” until Simon & Garfunkel ruined it for me.)

But these days more women are pushing back against the original characters they once felt ashamed of. After all, why shouldn’t young girls write the most spectacular versions of themselves—and why shouldn’t they want to see themselves in a story? In recent years I’ve been especially interested in watching women, people of color, and queer people reclaim the self-insertion narrative from one of indulgence to one of vital representation. In a piece partly about her youthful love of Lord of the Rings, Ash Davis writes,

“Be the change you wish to see,” Gandhi said (sorta). So I wrote my change. I discovered fanfiction and wrote all the damn change. I went into the painfully white fandoms of the things I loved…and wrote black folk into every last one of them. If there were no black people, I made them. If they were tokens, I made them stars. Mary-sued the shit out of everything. It didn’t matter, you were gonna see me!

In another piece I love about reclaiming the Mary Sue (via a medieval mystic, Margery Kempe, who essentially Mary Sued her way into the Bible in her writing, chilling with Mary and romancing Jesus), Ana Wilson writes about placing the female body back into reading—and into writing.

Reading The Book of Margery Kempe alongside fanfiction makes it clear that physical, imaginative reading is still associated with women, still considered embarrassing, and still employed as a form of resistance to mainstream narratives. People, in short, are still using this style of reading to elbow their way into texts from which they are restricted, just as Kempe and other women did with religious texts.

I wish I had my own Mary Sues to claim, but on a personal level, I’m a little more ambivalent. When I talk about good old Ophelia the Banshee, both “female” and an “original character” (and pulling from a very specific strand of symbolic mythology, for that matter), it’s easy to assume that I must have been writing a Mary Sue. But I can’t remember any specific connection between myself and the character, beyond the connections I have with every character I write, from the weary narrator of much of my original fiction who, like me, works at a racetrack, all the way to a certain pansexual immortal time traveling man from the 51st century.

The relationship between a writer and the characters she both reads and writes is a varied and complicated one. Fanfiction adds a layer onto that—the original characters in question aside, most of the people we write about started out as someone else’s characters, at least before the original work went out in the world. In the hands of fans, individually or collectively, a character often becomes someone else in the process. I should clarify: I don’t mean that fans are likely to render them out-of-character. But with the space and care that fanfiction can afford, fan writers often draw a favorite world’s characters as richer, more complicated—more human.

So unless you’re writing self-inserts or original characters, fanfic is partly about getting into the headspace of a character you didn’t create. That, for me anyway, is one of fanfiction’s chief pleasures—I’ve written before that for most fans, fic isn’t about wacky plots, as people outside fandom often assume, but about understanding a character so well that the interesting part comes when you stick them in a wacky plot (sure, “there’s only one hotel room left” counts as wacky), apply pressure, and see how they react.

For me, in my post-Ophelia Banshee days, inhabiting other characters as I write fanfiction has been vitally important. I read and write fic for a simultaneous distance and closeness with these characters—I allow them into my head, but I’m not looking to project myself back onto them. Part of this is privilege: whiteness, and I’m especially thinking of the un-interrogated whiteness of my adolescence, often lets white people assume a “default” position. A disproportionate number of the characters on our pages and screens are white, and from that lens shared whiteness with characters feels less like commonality and more like a lack of difference. Part of it is the opposite of privilege: the minefield of my struggles with gender and sexuality—almost definitely a subject for a totally separate essay—have left me perpetually out of step with many characters I encounter on pages and screens. When I think about myself in relation to a story, I slip away—a bit ironic, I suppose, for someone fascinated by girls who write themselves into stories. Or maybe that’s the whole point.

But part of it’s not just me: I hesitate to get too reductive on the links between shaming girls out of their own stories and the kinds of things that dominate many corners of the fanfiction world, but one could draw a line from the embarrassment of the Mary Sue to the positioning of certain types of characters in fandom as “default.” In the vast landscape of popular media, at least in the Anglo-American context, we’re implicitly taught to view the white male character as neutral, blank, infinitely relatable. While media certainly can shoulder some blame, fans should be held responsible, too, and the way young fans are encouraged, gently or mockingly, to step out of their own perspectives, away from their own backgrounds, and into the perspective of certain types of characters is one of the lasting legacies of the Mary Sue construction.

3.

When we consider the Mary Sue and her position in fandom at large, those of us outside the real person fic space often tend to overlook the fact that as long as celebrity fandom has existed, fannish communities have been built on self-insert fic with female protagonists. For many readers, this kind of story is sought after, not an object of scorn. The self-inserts that populate a lot of boy band RPF, for example, are perspective characters that, just like Mary Sues, allow young women to gain narrative control of their relationships with the objects of their affection.

Perspective is important in fanfic. It’s obviously also important in all other fiction, ever, but fic can sometimes feel particularly preoccupied with it. After all, perspective shift is one of the bedrocks of the practice; fans love nudging the spotlight off a canonical protagonist. RPF is an interesting space to examine perspective, and the way the “default” (white, male) gaze gets shattered and refashioned. There’s the complicated sort of circular gaze of stories from the celebrity’s point of view, where the reader watches the celebrity watching a character who’s often a stand-in for the reader. And while second-person fic feels more prevalent in fanfiction at large than it does in the published fiction world, it often feels ubiquitous in RPF spaces. Lumped under a second-person umbrella stories that work very differently in form and function, from fleshed-out second person narrators to “x Reader” stories that eschew identifying details to “imagines,” short prompts that exist in a murky space between fiction and daydream fodder.

When you place those fleshed-out narrators side-by-side with Mary Sues, it’s an interesting study in contrasts: where a Mary Sue is too-perfect, the self-insert narrator is often fairly ordinary, beaten down in some way, frustrated with her situation, not quite aware of her own attractiveness or agency. (Part of the pleasure of the narrative arc is the realization, and reclamation of that agency.) These characters and this type of fic is wildly popular on Wattpad, so much so that the platform commissioned an entire anthology of second-person RPF entitled IMAGINES, released last year with a shiny silver mirror on its cover alongside the words “Celebrity encounters starring YOU.”

The imagines of the anthology are, a little confusingly, not quite the same thing as “imagines,” the prompts that are increasingly popular on Tumblr and Wattpad. The anthology’s stories, about chance encounters with celebrities, are narrated by women of various ages and backgrounds with clear characterization and perspective. They’re not all romantic: in one story, a mother embarrasses her teenage daughter when she brings home Nicholas Hoult for dinner, the “you” full of maternal affection for the actor; in another, “you” are on the run with Kim Kardashian, a freedom fighter in an America where the government has outlawed selfies (Kim is on the run because she keeps taking them, obviously). The “yous” are unremarkable, but there’s a bit of knowing space between the reader and the narrator: we can tell you’re selling yourself short, and we’re waiting for you to realize it.

Actual imagines, in contrast, leave you to do most of the work of constructing a protagonist. They are short, sometimes a single sentence: “Imagine: You and Ed take a camping trip to get away from the media,” reads one on a popular Tumblr devoted to imagines, accompanied by a gif of Ed Sheeran looking sort of bashful. How you met, the state of your relationship, literally everything about “you” is up in the air—whether the reader even feels compelled to fill those gaps is a matter of preference. The “you” in an imagine isn’t necessarily average-looking or untalented—the same blog offers you a gif of Sebastian Stan looking charmed accompanied by, “Imagine: When Sebastian first meets you he is speechless and stunned by your beauty.” Imagines are interesting often not because of what they contain, but what they lack—the wide-open spaces they leave, utterly customizable, whether you spin a single-sentence prompt into a 60,000-word story or just imagine you and Ed Sheeran sitting in a tent. As a self-insert narrator, you are as present or as absent as you want.

The protagonists of “x Reader” stories are similarly blank: often called “y/n,” short for “your name,” these stories are the most literal expression of “self-insert” imaginable, since the pairing is you, the reader, and the celebrity of the title. These stories vary, but sometimes they tread so lightly in an attempt to leave “y/n” as neutral as possible that they wind up feeling a bit like Mad Libs, instructing you to fill in, say, your favorite book rather than just name one the narrator might like. Sometimes x Reader stories follow a full narrative arc; other times they feel like a collected set of imagines. When I got sucked in researching, I wound up in a story where in each chapter, you successively date, then marry, each of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.

The prevalence and growing popularity of images and x Reader stories amongst younger fans is a fascinating shift when I think of the self-inserts of previous generations. If a Mary Sue is a projection, a young woman’s ideal self on the page, then an imagine is more likely to be a reflection: exactly who you are, at the center of the story. Mary Sues are aspirational, but in a way, so are these other self-insert forms: they construct worlds in which your fictional self, going about your incredibly ordinary life, is just as important as Lieutenant Mary Sue. The story still bends around you.

The overwhelming popularity of self-inserts on Wattpad, a fanfiction hub with a younger demographic than other archives, leaves me both curious and hopeful about young girls right now, writing themselves into stories. I know that reader x boy-band-star-of-the-moment isn’t exactly a new construction; while I was working on my weird diverse corporate team and Flourish was helping the FBI catch aliens, my contemporaries were writing themselves into Hanson’s green room and *NSYNC’s tour bus, stories they’d later disavow (and, haltingly, reclaim).

Today’s social media is restructuring our conceptions of personal identity—we increasingly center ourselves in our own narratives. Don’t worry, I’m not about to go on some “narcissistic millennial” rant. Quite the opposite: it’s heartening to see young women, young queer people, young people of color, center themselves in narratives when our screens and pages are still lacking. In the fanfiction world, just like in the rest of the world, we still hold marginalized characters, original or otherwise, to impossible standards. But perhaps our embrace of Mary Sues—even if they’re the most achingly perfect young woman to ever command a ship in the Fleet—will help change things for the better.

Rachel Alexander #fundie christianpost.com

Americans appear to have begun entering a more conservative phase, reflected in part by the popularity of the family-oriented, God-loving TV show Duck Dynasty. Although it is not a big expensive production, just a reality show, it has become the second most popular show on cable TV.

Yet this isn't translating into changes in Americans' politics or their government. Americans are still voting for Democrats, accepting socially liberal positions and expanding government. The reason is simple. Liberalism self-perpetuates itself if left unchecked because people are lazy. This is due to the nature of government. It is difficult to feel the effects of incrementally raising taxes and increasing spending across the board.

[...]

The left is also winning the culture war. While Americans deep down prefer shows like Duck Dynasty, they're allowing the left to win on social issues. The left has accomplished this by portraying Republicans as cold and heartless, using emotional arguments to sway the public. Republicans can turn this around by doing the exact same thing back to the left. Portray the woman who wants to abort her baby as cruel and selfish, and showcase those children who grew up with permanent injuries as a result of an attempted, botched abortion. These kinds of portrayals must be done frequently and everywhere. It must become common knowledge that the left has cruel and selfish policies that injure people, in order to turn the tide.

Conservatism is too cerebral for many Americans. Consequently, the right has to try twice as hard as the left to gain support for its policies. This means working smarter too, by using methods that are effective like emotional arguments. Although it may feel foreign to most on the right to use an emotional argument about something that is not terribly worthy of emotion, to continue down the same old path that no longer works is slowly making the Republican Party a minority. Republicans need to quit lamenting over the backwards fact that the most intelligent party is not the most successful.

Martin #fundie premierchristianity.com

(=An Anti Gay vs Pro Gay argument desolves into an Eternal Torment vs Annihilation argument of Hell=)

Martin: Curiously the penalty for all sin is the same:
Behold, all souls are mine; the soul of the father as well as the soul of the son is mine: the soul who sins shall die.
(Ezekiel 18:4 [ESV])
Death is the penalty for any sin.
You reject the fact that homosexuality is simply sexual sin merely to justify yourself.

Guglielmo Marinaro: Ah well, if all those souls are going to die, then they won’t be living on in hell to suffer everlasting torment, will they? So that’s some consolation.
You assert that homosexuality is simply sexual sin merely to justify yourself. I reject the “fact” that homosexuality is simply sexual sin, because it isn’t a fact but simply nonsense.

Martin: Death for the soul of a sinner means an eternity of torment. Keep pretending while you can, one day you'll have to admit you're wrong.

Guglielmo Marinaro: Death does not mean an eternity of torment – except perhaps once again in your Martinian Newspeak lexicon – and an attempt to read such a concept into that verse from Ezekiel is eisegesis par excellence.
You may keep on repeating your ignorant nonsense till kingdom come, and I will continue to recognize it as ignorant nonsense, nothing more. As you have yourself recently observed, it is tedious to have to repeat the same thing over and over again, but – who knows? – God may use it to enlighten you and get you to repudiate your errors.

Martin: Curious then that Jesus speaks of two options, eternal life and eternal punishment:
And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.
(Matthew 25:46 [ESV])

Guglielmo Marinaro: Quite apart from uncertainty regarding the meaning of the Greek word “aionios”, which has been translated in English Bibles by the word “eternal” or “everlasting”, but which does not necessarily mean “of endless duration” – in the Greek Septuagint it is applied, for example, to things which have long since come to an end, e.g. the Aaronic priesthood (Numbers 25:13) and the gates of the Temple at Jerusalem (Psalm 24:7, 9) – it is interesting that Jesus contrasts “eternal punishment” with “eternal LIFE”, which seems clearly to imply that those who go to “eternal punishment” will NOT live on for ever.
This is confirmed by Jesus’s admonition, “Do not fear those who kill the body, but cannot kill the soul; but rather fear him who is able to DESTROY BOTH SOUL AND body in Gehenna.” (Matthew 10:28)

Martin: So you're saying that eternal life doesn't last for ever? I think you'd be hard pressed to maintain that.
As for Matthew 10, it is notable that the same word is not used for the act of one who is able to kill the body but not the soul and the one who is able to destroy both body and soul.

Guglielmo Marinaro : No, I am not saying that eternal life does not last for ever, nor am I implying that. But if the belief that it does has no stronger basis than the use of a Greek word which is applied in the Septuagint to a priesthood which no longer exists and to the doors of a temple which was razed to the ground centuries ago, it rests on a pretty precarious foundation.
Something which has been destroyed no longer exists. If anything, “destroy” bears an even stronger connotation of annihilation than “kill”. The verse in Matthew 10 which speaks of the destruction of both soul and body can, like so many biblical texts, be pulled around in Procrustean fashion to bring it into apparent conformity with preformed dogma, but as the New Testament scholar Kim Papaioannou observes, “It appears that the attempt to understand the meaning of ?p???sa? in Matthew 10:28 as something other than ‘destruction’ in its most obvious meaning is based more on theological considerations than linguistic evidence.” He adds that this conclusion is supported by a survey of the usage of the different forms of that verb in the Synoptic Gospels, elsewhere in the New Testament and in the Septuagint.

Martin: The same word is used of eternal life as to eternal punishment, so if one is not to experience eternal punishment neither will anyone experience eternal life. It matters not what a man who thinks he has invented a whole new understanding of the Bible says

Guglielmo Marinaro: And the very same adjective (a??????) is used of the Aaronic priesthood, which no longer exists, and of the doors of the Temple at Jerusalem, which was razed to the ground centuries ago.

Martin: And the Septuagint was translated hundreds of years before the New Testament was written. Nor is it inspired, the translators were capable of error.
The punishment and life clearly last for the same length of time.

Guglielmo Marinaro: “And the Septuagint was translated hundreds of years before the New Testament was written.”
So what? It is the same Greek adjective, and the Septuagint was good enough for Paul, since it was the version from which he habitually quoted in his epistles.
“Nor is it inspired, the translators were capable of error.”
As were the original biblical writers, and as were all the translators who have produced every translation of the Bible ever made, from the Vulgate to the NIV.
“The punishment and life clearly last for the same length of time.”
Clearly to you perhaps, but clearly not clearly to everyone else.

Martin: You didn't realise languages change over time?
The original biblical writers were caused by God to write as they did, their writing is without error for it is breathed out by God.
When the same word is used of two things in the same sentence it is clear to everyone that the same meaning is given to the two instances. Everyone except you apparently.

derLinder #fundie rr-bb.com

I've been roaming around the 'net' reading the myriad of comments made from both sides of the aisle and pulpit. What amazes me is that no one seems to be addressing the effect on the children. It's a glaring ommission.

Homosexuality and all it's incarnations will now be taught as 'normal' in school irregardless of the child's or the child's family's religous beliefs. The children of America have lost their freedom to practice Christianity out loud or in private as any and all comments, beliefs, et.al. refuting the homosexual lifestyle will be seen as hate speech. All the fun that comes with these beliefs will soon follow. Being made an example of comes to mind.

So adorable little Sally, who's all of 1st, 2nd, or 3rd grade will be bombarded with text books showing Johnny's two mommies or daddies. She will be taught that this is 'normal', acceptable, and even encouraged as we 'must all explore our sexuality'. The lifestyle is self-perpetuating as it can't procreate--oh, but it's oh so 'normal'. Indeed.

Sally may even be questioned on where she got these views/beliefs. Why mommie/daddie/ grandma/grandpa of course. I'm not Chicken Little. This all will happen. The text books have already been printed, just waiting in the wings. This is not a tin foil meme, someone very close to me was a public elementry school librarian and retired early so they did not have to witness or be a part of what was coming down the pike for our dear innocent children. She read the textbooks. They're here.

So now we have these poor children who will not only be confused, but torn in their loyalties. What child has not looked up to and admired their kindergarten, 1st - 3rd grade teachers? And what if the teachers encourage the children to report on their family's views regarding this and other topics.

This was always going to happen. Watch how fast these textbooks make it into the school. We've been duped again. They just had to go through the 'motions'. One judge overthrows the will of 7,000,000 people? Yeah right. Where I come from, that's called living in a totalitarian state, communist state, etc., etc., whatever label anyone wants to put on it. Basically, anti-freedom.

My only remaining comment is to beg the Lord to please get us out of here so that His justice and will may be done.

CisWhiteMalestrom #fundie reddit.com

No matter how much of a feminist a man might be, he doesn't actually respect women's "accomplishments." He'll respect an actual great career but nobody respects the schlub who makes 77% of what he does. He's never seen a woman who's actually worth respecting and so he doesn't even know what she'd look like. When he sees women who's earning shit ruin the life of the child she irresponsibly single mothered at age 32, he'll think that's what a respectable human being is.

Women have successfully pushed for men to respect them for bleeding out their cunts, fingering themselves, sucking dick, and getting fat. In other words, for fucking existing. Mere existence is the be-all-end-all of a woman's life and the big struggle she must go through. There's a self-perpetuating cycle. First, men hear the myth of the respectable woman and then they force themselves to see her. That lowers the standards for women, so women take it even easier. Men have to overcompensate again to keep the myth alive and that leads to another quality drop. Truth is: if women weren't like that then wouldn't constantly be told to respect women.

When a man is incompetent, his world crumbles. He can scream that he's empowered all he fucking wants but he'll have to answer to his disposability. You think he's gonna get laid just because he can blame his shit on a glass ceiling? He's accountable for his failure and so he tries damn hard. He might never succeed against all the barriers put before him but unless he's really fucking blue pill, you know he's gonna try.

A woman's world isn't like that. She's got no incentive to struggle because she can live comfortably off a psychologist's salary whether she gets promoted or not. An unsuccessful woman will get laid via reproductive scarcity while in group biases provide her with friends. Is she really gonna care about earning another 60K – or at least, will she care enough to work 15 extra hours every week and have a job she hates? Not when 40K's enough for her to enjoy the finest Manhattan has to offer.

If she ever wants her "own" money to spend then she can find a provider and when she wants it to truly be hers then she'll divorce him. Women have absolutely no stake in their own success or respectability and that makes them the unwavering champions of incompetence. When one group's got that ironclad frame, the other has to adapt. Men adapt by trying harder and harder to see the myth and by giving more and more to these women to mask the true reality of incompetence. The less competent women are, the more respect they get and the more perks their given.

The Red Pill is the last stronghold of man's collective frame. Women can fuck up all around us but at least the ones in our lives will have to answer to that guilty feeling she gets after getting fucked and chucked. If they want to collectively devalue themselves to a worn out fleshlight and an expired uterus then fine, but we're not giving them our paycheck and a whore's sure as fuck not getting my commitment. Red Pill Men are a rare breed in that we're men who actually value our own lives and well being enough to pursue and prioritize them. Feminists stole that self-respect from the aggregate of all men but they'll never take it from us; the world might crumble to support the myth but we sure as hell won't.

joyfilled catholic #fundie news.aol.com

A man uses a condom or forces the woman to use birth control because he's really saying, I love you, but not enough to have a baby with your or leave my wife for you or to have to be responsible to you in any sort of way because I'm just using your for my pleasures. No man would ADMIT to that because it would make him look bad and it would be "politically incorrect."
Women lie and say they took the pill, or they poke a hole in a condom, in search of a chance for love and committment and all it breads in the end is abortion, hurt, loss, mental health issues and a self-perpetuating cyle: Men, when they find out that a baby's invovled pressure the woman into abortion , 'if you really love me', so the woman gives in (or leaves his sorry ass and ends up living in poverty trying to raise a child single-handedly).

Men get sick and tired of the 'hassle' with women, so they turn to butt-fucking men so that the pleasure is felt and the job is done and there's no committment/clingy issues to deal with.

However, that type of behavior has hurt many man.
Physically and psychologically.

They want to get even, so they push for kids to learn about and be curious about gay activities.
They use them because they are looking for 'innocent love' and yet, all they end up doing is perpetuating a cycle of sickness, with more people hurt and confused in the process.

Nathan "Leucosticte" Larson #fundie incels.co

As an accelerationist, I actually believe an incelocalypse is likely to happen someday

By "incelocalypse" I mean, the day when incels seize pussy by force. All the incelocalypse is, is the abolition of feminism (a fairly new innovation), and the restoration of patriarchy. Patriarchy is a system in which foids are treated as property to be transferred from father to husband; typically this will be done when they are in their jailbait years, to maximize their lifetime value to the husband and minimize the expense of the father's raising them in preparation for marriage. This is how it works during peacetime; during war, of course, foids may be seized by force as war brides.

We could just as easily use a neoreaction-inspired term, and call the incelocalyptic event the Restoration. A Restoration is when a monarchy is brought back to power. Since patriarchy is just monarchy on a familial scale, all we are really doing is restoring men to their rightful position as kings of their households.

When I look at politics, I see no signs that there's going to be a switch back to patriarchy through the electoral process. We've gotten to the point where even the cuckservatives who timidly put some pro-family idea out there (e.g. "maybe we wouldn't have so many school shootings if there weren't so many boys being raised by single moms") get shamed. They can't even talk about specific proposals for reducing the number of single moms, since all the workable ideas would involve giving men authority over foids. Even the third parties, like the Libertarian Party, are a bunch of bluepilled cucks when it comes to relations between the sexes, despite the fact that they hardly ever win elections and therefore have little to lose.

Moreover, there are no signs that the trend toward doubling down on feminism is going to stop any time soon. On the contrary, in 2018, more foids have been nominated for Congress than ever before in history. This is going to be a self-perpetuating cycle, in which feminist policies lead to more female officeholders, who then enact more feminist policies, etc. They're going to be training the young foids to be "leaders" as well.

Eventually, the whole system will collapse under its own weight, because it's going to be impossible for any group of male dissidents to put a stop to the advance of feminism. Till the bitter end, they're all going to be frantically scrabbling for whatever pussy they can get (or think they can get), rather than wanting to stick their necks out and demand change. We never see men organize and protest in the streets for patriarchy, the way that foids do, because men don't create male-only spaces anymore that would be conducive for setting up a united front like that. It's foids who are always setting up "women's leadership programs" and other female-only groups, where they can freely plot against men.

Once foids are in charge of everything, even the state will stagnate and eventually collapse, just like what happens to every other big enterprise run by foids. The state will not be able to carry out its functions properly when so much of its energies are devoted to feel-good stuff like inclusivity codes of conduct and endless new measures against sexual harassment, designed to eliminate intelligent but unattractive men from the organization and better facilitate the alpha-fucks/beta-bucks feminine imperative. High-quality people will not be attracted to an organization like that, or allowed to remain in it.

Meanwhile, the demographic situation will continue to worsen. The fertility rate will continue to plunge, and humanity will retrogress to a more primitive state due to the dysgenic effect of feminist practices. Since this is unsustainable, it will have to end eventually. Maybe the bulk of mankind will regress to a subhuman state by the time of the final collapse, and it will be like the Planet of the Apes.

When you see historic events like foids gaining more power than they've ever had before, you should rejoice, because it means we're not standing still; we're making more progress toward the collapse and rebuilding. When the end of civilization does come, the new civilization will have to be built along patriarchist lines, because that is the fundamental human instinct and what we always go back to, whenever the state doesn't get in the way. The male wants to be dominant and the female wants to be submissive, so people will revert back to that when they have the opportunity.

Maybe the new order will also get corrupted by feminism and collapse, but hopefully in the meantime there will be a golden era that we can enjoy. The new society could very well be monarchical or otherwise undemocratic, since those types of systems seem to promote manliness more than democratic systems, which are arguably feminine in nature. Democracy is about diffusion of responsibility among the legislators, much like what foids do whenever anyone tries to hold them accountable.

The cool thing is, you don't necessarily have to do anything to make the incelocalypse happen. You just have to watch the signs of the impending collapse and at the appropriate time, make the preparations to survive and be in a good position to scoop up that jailbait pussy when it becomes available. Till then, it's mostly just a matter of LDAR'ing or whatever.

Now, am I just saying all this to try to cope with the fact that I can't be in politics anymore, and am unlikely to go ER? Maybe. But it seems like almost everyone else is the same way. Maybe as we get closer to the incelocalypse, and the state's grip on power begins to weaken, and perhaps the means of providing food and other necessities to the people begins to break down, there will be more ERs and Minassians. Like communism, feminism is an egalitarian system that has unlimited potential for fucking up both government and private industry, so I wouldn't rule out such possibilities.

Bob Livingston #conspiracy easyhealthoptions.com

The germ theory of disease is a hoax created by Louis Pasteur and latched onto and perpetuated by establishment medicine.

It is the belief that disease or sickness is spread by germs or viruses outside the body. The germ theory opens the way to impose millions of drug concoctions upon the people. Don’t we realize that this notion implies that every illness or sickness is drug-dependent?

Germ theory has been promulgated upon us for so long by establishment medicine and the propaganda media that there can no longer be serious inquiry into the nature of infections and the ways to prevent them. But like the “97 percent consensus” surrounding anthropogenic global warming, the germ theory is a notion of nonsense that has confused millions of people, enriched the pharmaceuticals and empowered a growing medical police state.

The World Health Organization, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, and other national health bureaucracies, along with a compliant propaganda media, have conditioned the modern mind to equate medicine with health and germs with disease. So to prevent us from becoming sick, conventional wisdom holds, we must treat ourselves beforehand with drugs (vaccines) to kill the “bad germs” in advance. And once we become sick, we must treat ourselves with more drugs to kill the germs that overcame the vaccines we administered to prevent us from becoming sick in the first place.

As I noted in “Doctors fret over future of drugs as antibiotic overuse creates antibiotic-resistant ‘superbugs,’” the overuse of antibiotics in our food (by inoculating the poultry and livestock) and the over-prescription of antibiotics by doctors to their patients has created ever more prevalent and ever more deadly “superbugs” resistant to known antibiotics.

But even worse, the overuse of antibiotics is damaging our health by also destroying the germs and microbes the human body must have to stay healthy. That’s because antibiotics don’t differentiate one germ or microbe from another. They attack them all.

Now a new study published in the journal “Atherosclerosis” demonstrates that even the so-called “bad germs” are necessary for good health.

According to the study, measles and mumps infections were associated with decreased risks of mortality from cardiovascular disease (CVD). There is also evidence indicating that a higher number of infections lowers the overall mortality rate from cardiovascular disease.

The study in Japan followed 43,689 men and 60,147 women aged 40-79 beginning in 1988-1990 and followed them until 2009. It found that men who had a history of measles showed an 8 percent reduction in total CVD; and those with mumps had a 48 percent reduction in mortality from stroke, a 79 percent reduction in mortality from hemorrhagic stroke. Men with a history of both measles and mumps showed a mortality reduction of 20 percent in total CVD, 29 percent for myocardial infarction and 17 percent for total stroke.

Women with both infections showed comparable reductions, including 15 percent reduction in mortality from total CVD, 21 percent for total stroke, and 22 percent for both ischemic and hemorrhagic stroke. The study concluded that “Measles and mumps, especially in case of both infections, were associated with lower risks of mortality from atherosclerotic CVD.”

Measles was once a joke disease and considered a rite of passage for American youth. But that was before the medical cartel and propaganda media went to work on the American public to create an irrational fear of normal childhood diseases.

Vaccines and other chemical cocktails reduce and inhibit natural immunity, making us more susceptible to a host of diseases. During the so-called “measles outbreak” connected to the Disney theme park in 2014 it was found that most of those who contracted the measles had been previously vaccinated with the MMR (measles-mumps-rubella) vaccine. Studies are also showing that more flu shots make people more susceptible to the flu.

We are told and intimidated by medical propaganda over and over that we must be protected internally from diseases that originate in the external environment. What the establishment does not tell us is that when we are healthy, we have peak immunity and can walk and live among sick people and not get sick.

Jigs&Libs #racist niggermania.net

This is very common. Niggers are given a high school "graduation" through ape-firmative action and social promotions. Where I am, in Washington DC, it costs about $30K/year for each "student" preK-12. A study a few years ago found that the niggers who "graduated" were, at the median, able to only preform at a 9.5 grade level--and keep in mind that this 9.5 grade level is scaled down to niggers. So the actual grade level in human terms is closer to 7th. The niggers in the audience go wild, crazy--as though they just watched the greatest achievement that their keeds will ever have. Well, I guess it is.

The TNB at graduations doesn't stop at high school. My sister went back to school for an additional nursing program at a community/technical school in Florida. Her nursing program was highly regarded, as well as a few of the technical programs and degrees in networking, computer programing, drafting & design, and the like. The school also had adult GED & High School programs as well. It was ridiculous to watch actual college graduates, like my sister, be in the same ceremony as boogie niggers in their late 20s and & early 30s getting GEDs. Most of the nursing graduates already had associates or even bachelor's degrees.

A few of the nurses I met through my sister were already practicing nurses and were now on track to becoming RNs and paramedics. One guy was a commissioned officer in the Florida National Guard. All of the real graduates had respectful applause. On the printed program, each graduate was listed by the degree and/or program course they completed, and each degree/program went though as a group. By the end, the adult HS & GED people walked across. All of a sudden the niggers went ape! It was astonishing that they were so "proud" of Lil' Ja-mee-qaan, who at the age of 28, was finally turning his life around and graduating from a community adult program with a GED! My dad was really upset by it. A large group of us went to a nice dinner afterwards and my mom had to keep shhhh-ing my dad from his curt remarks about how their real accomplishments were demeaned by the nigger shines.

Linda Harvey #fundie #homophobia #transphobia #wingnut missionamerica.com

Top 5 Excuses When Radicals Corrupt Children
Progressives are busy smashing the innocence and dreams of our youth, but they aren’t doing it without thought. They have their reasons.
They are ultimately ungodly and foolish reasons revealing base instincts, flawed values, the direct influence of the demonic realm, or all of the above.

What are the explanations? Here’s a list of their most frequent excuses.

1. It’s for the “safety” of kids. A key goal of the “LGBT” crowd is to put traditional moral standards on defense, so one tactic is to co-opt bullying prevention programs. Many current lessons imbed a deceptive idea in otherwise positive messages— be kind, don’t be a bully, and to avoid this abhorrent label, be an ally and supporter of “LGBTQ” behaviors and identities. The pro-homosexual National Education Association, the nation’s largest union, has pushed and funded this duplicitous idea for over a decade, even quoting the invalid, online GLSEN “School Climate Survey.”

Propagandists often pair acceptable messages with extremely questionable ones. Today, they use children as human shields for “LGBT” agenda goals.

So what does “support” for these newly-created homosexual and gender confused kids look like? A school must allow no warnings about these behaviors or objections which make these students feel “unsafe.” A violation of the First Amendment? Medically and morally inaccurate? It doesn’t matter as long as the “gay” lobby can get parents to fall for this.


So students in the “gay straight alliance” club at West Linn High School in Oregon recently walked out of school to protest the Chick-Fil-A food truck serving school football games. An official at the school said they were considering the students’ position as with all “potential safety concerns.”

Chick-Fil-A is unsafe? No, here’s what’s unsafe—being prevented from hearing the truth that God has marvelously designed sex for one man and one woman in holy matrimony.

Children are starving for the nourishment of moral reality.

2. It’s part of being “inclusive” for “all” kids. In case you were not aware, messages about sexual responsibility and healthy behavior “excludes” those students who are already sexually active, and “LGBTQ” kids, who need to learn about anal and oral sex. So all students, therefore, are forced under “comprehensive sexuality education” (CSE) to hear that anal, oral and vaginal sex are normal for teens and can be managed safely with condoms and contraceptives. And this instruction needs to begin in middle school.

So the Austin, TX school system recently passed a controversial sex ed program that allegedly includes “abstinence.” Here’s what one pro-family activist there told me: “Yes, anal and oral sex with graphic descriptions of both are included in a sixth grade classroom activity in which eleven-year-olds are given 20 cards of various activities and made to discuss which ones are abstinence. Not only does the lesson explain anal and oral sex, it counts as material that is about abstinence required by law in Texas.”

California parents are just waking up to the horrific legislation passed several years ago – California’s “Healthy Youth Act”—mandating deliberate corruption of the state’s kids with X-rated subjects and pro-”LGBT” messages.

Praise God, some parents are responding, “Over my dead body.” There are a few lovely victories, like the school board in Battleground Schools (WA) turning down the obscene “FLASH” CSE program.

After the legalization of same sex marriage, homosexual activists went full steam to demand through many avenues (including the NEA) that school lessons must include respect for “LGBTQ” behaviors. “Respect” means normalizing early sex, graphic details of sex acts and lessons with same sex role-playing scenarios.


3. Children asked for it. Another excuse given for shoving pro-abortion and “LGBT” misinformation at kids is that “kids want this.” Yes, so whatever behavior kids have been taught to demand, in some schools they get. The child empowerment movement pushes the bolder kids in front of school boards. Some are already hardened activists screaming that their rights are being infringed, on their way to a college affiliation with Antifa.

Sexual corruption, let’s not forget, breeds more boundary-smashing and other psychological instabilities.

Cathy Ruse described the climate in the Fairfax (VA) schools as including cuddling polyamorous groups of kids in the halls —“thruples” and “quadruples” (rhymes with couples). And at the same school there are now “furries,” students who believe they are animals and self-identify as cats, foxes, etc.


4. The radicals think there’s nothing wrong and it’s all positive. The hard reality is that some people think there’s nothing inappropriate about kids being sexual.

One drag queen admitted in an interview recently that the goal was indeed to “groom the next generation.” Grooming is the term describing pedophile actions softening a child’s resistance to adult sexual contact.

A drag queen in the Seattle area performed an explicit strip act for kids. Another in Minneapolis was filmed “flashing himself” with partial nudity. Another invited little kids to lie on top of him after the reading time. Several of these deviant males have past convictions of child molestation and involvement in prostitution.

A PTA president at a school in Harlem performed an erotic “drag” routine to an auditorium full of elementary students several years ago.

5. Homosexual expression or gender “transition” will prevent suicide. Playing the suicide card is a frequent part of the game here, where parents are told, “If you don’t affirm your daughter in her new identity as a male, she will kill herself. Do you want a live son or a dead daughter?” So against your common sense, your faith, and everything you knew about your child prior to the current corruption overload, you are persuaded by an “affirming” counselor that mutilating her healthy body is the best course of action.

But here’s where mythology collides with truth. No one is born in the “wrong sex body” and suicide risks remain high, according to research, even after taking hormones and undergoing mutilating surgery.

An entire new activist group is now forming – “de-transitioners”—young adults now outraged over the deformed bodies and limited futures that have been handed to them. They will never conceive children. They are disfigured, often sexually dysfunctional. And the future holds the very real prospect of cardiovascular disease, cancer, diabetes, and osteoporosis at young ages. All because of a deviant and unsupported agenda everyone thinks is “inclusive.”

It’s actually the opposite. When your ideology excludes the truth, everything else is a high-stakes gamble.

Sometimes I think I’m living in a fun house with crazy mirrors where very little is what it seems. But that’s why we must keep turning to the Lord and standing with Him in the power of the Holy Spirit.

And speaking out. Pastors, please address this from the pulpit. We are to be salt and light.

Jesus is the frame of all wisdom and sets us free, and He will direct our paths.

Celestian Falcon #conspiracy ufocasebook.conforums.com

1968 my alien abduction took place on a lonesome county road in Georgia. The events were breathtaking and shocking! The alien greys used a silver rod that knocked people unconscious when they were touched by the alien rod. The alien weapon seemed like a harmless weapon of choice for the aliens to knock out their abduction victims before capturing them similar to an animal dart that is used for knocking animals of the wild unconscious while they are moved. The alien rod acts like an invisible needle prong and inserts through the skin to the body to absorb a anesthesia like shot that knocks the body unconscious.

I was abducted also in 1968 along with other abduction victims and experienced the Medical Beams in which covered through aurora light rings that circled through my body. The Medical Beams seemed to be taking blood DNA molecules and projecting them through lazier pulsar beams into a machine that coded my DNA blood molecules and reshaped them through biogenetic and kryogenic experiments conducted by the aliens. So, your story of Medical Beams make sense to me as an abduction victim. For me, such accuracy in describing this Medical Beam I would like to add that the rest of what you say or theorize may also ring true.

swampfox #conspiracy forum.thefreedictionary.com

Hunger and malnutrition kill nearly 6 million children a year. Approximately 42 Million abortions are performed each year, that is 115,00 PER DAY! And God only knows the number of human life that doesn't develop through use of hormonal contraceptives. Then there is disease cardiovascular, infectious, parasitic, HIV/AIDS, cancer, and lets not forget war.

Still with all that is available death is losing the battle against the population.

David Pimentel, professor of ecology and agriculture at Cornell University, and Mario Giampietro, senior researcher at the National Research Institute on Food and Nutrition (INRAN), place in their study Food, Land, Population and the U.S. Economy the maximum U.S. population for a sustainable economy at 200 million. Their study says: To achieve a sustainable economy and avert disaster, the United States must reduce its population by at least one-third, and world population will have to be reduced by two-thirds. Or in the coming decades see spiraling food prices without relief and massive starvation on a global level such as never experienced before.

A natural world wide plague can kill millions within weeks. A lab made controlled plague could kill hundreds of millions in the same amount of time or so it is statically calculated. Don't think for one minute that governments around the world aren't attempting to address population control through a controlled mandatory vaccine program.

Men's Rights EXTREMIST #sexist rationalwiki.org

Power imbalance

One of the arguments for statutory rape laws is that there's a power imbalance between an underage minor and an adult. In a scenario where a 13-year-old is approaching an adult online, volunteering his address, and inviting the guy to travel across the U.S. to have sex with him, is there a power imbalance? What is preventing the teen from fending the predator off by saying, "No thanks" and blocking him, as opposed to saying "Here's where I live; don't forget to bring the condoms, and remember, I like strawberry peach-flavored wine coolers"? To me, that sounds like it's the teen who's really calling the shots and getting the adult to do what he wants.
The son of a friend of my mine used to brag to his mom about how he could easily find gay men who would pay him several hundred dollars a night for sex. In that way, he was able to afford a lifestyle where he wasn't financially dependent on his mom, and she couldn't tell him any longer, "As long as you're under my roof, you obey my rules." (His mom was a lesbian who had him by some random guy she got to fuck her so she could have a kid, which adds further support for my argument that dads are NOT as dispensable as feminists would have people believe.)
At what point do we have to conclude that it's really the teens who are in the driver's seat, and behaving in a way that borders on exploitation of horny adults who have no choice but to obey their instructions and pay exorbitant prices if they want to fulfill their fantasies?
People often say it's adults who are able to prey on teens' desire for affection, approval, etc. How is that a stronger drive, that renders people more susceptible to manipulation, than adults' sexual urges? It's one thing to bring up teens' physical dependence on adults for the necessities of life, but once we get into the territory of factors that make people susceptible to psychological coercion, it gets really iffy because some adults have as little self-control as teenagers.

dload #fundie answers.yahoo.com

Evolution can be split into two: Evolution Theory and Micro-evolution.

One of those is entirely faith based, which even started via a hoax - it's far from sciences.

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Human DNA/Chromosomes is more related to the tobacco plant over ape/chimp. If we are allowed to "continue evolving" we may someday be tobacco plants, or even better maybe even the ultimate life form, a fern with 480 chromosomes!

If Evolution is real, we would be actually be de-evolving at a slow rate? Natural selection would just be slowing down this rate. According to the Evolution Theory (and Hoax from which it started) we where originally ape like creatures, we de-evolved into humans - losing most our ability to grip with feet, our tail for support and extra hold, becoming slower, lazier, fatter, defenseless creatures compared to the apes which happen to still be around?

The evolution theory was created for fame and greed starting off as a hoax. Any one with a slight education and half a brain cell can see that - sorry, Evolutionist Ape-Man followers, go back to watching your "Planet of the Apes" movies.

Micro-evolution however has some facts/research behind it, this however is just the fact that a creature can ADAPT and change to it's environment. This is the good researched side of evolution which starts to make logical sense, however we currently know: DNA mutations cause more damage that good. The only differences is the religous believe the DNA is already encoded and it is simply toggled to adapt.

This however supports religion even more... so they must still follow the hoax of the apeman, it's their faith to consider themselves a monkey without purpose in life.

? #fundie answers.yahoo.com

Atheists: Why do you wish USA to become a boring socialist country?

How are we supposed to get the good video games about guns if you try to turn it into a wussy scandinavian coward country that cant even defend itself properly without the military of the great USA. The EU has enemies of Russia and even USA Donald Trump dont like EU very much.

I mean Scandinavia is like a place you go to summer camp or some far away island. Not a place you go to do your work. So it should just be left alone. I live in Norway, but its basically a system of freeloaders. And USA should always have a hectic critical striving loaded system, with stress that can be tough on families so that they encourage poor people to work, honest work i mean. While the more lazier workers in Scandinavia are just that. Welfare checks, nothing really good is created. I mean its not like we have Microsoft, Xbox. Well those are all that i can come up with for the moment.

In terms of running a powerful state. Socialism would just make everyone a winner. No need to better the powerful armageddon nation when you can just be a freeloader. Which is not what USA should be about. You have to be number 1 afterall. Europe is having russians as enemies because europeans are technically freeloaders, and thats why north africans and criminals come there, aswell as imams making it into their new home.

Having a strong democratic authoritarian ship while banning one religion while being tolerant of others seems like the best way to go forward. Too bad most atheists are liberals.

Ashley Rae Goldenberg #fundie libertywithoutapologies.com

Recently, I became aware that Philadelphia enacted a piece of legislation which mandates that all public buildings must include a restroom catering to transgenders in addition to the traditional male and female restrooms. Strangely enough, some libertarians have defended this project as a move towards equality.

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There are quite a few people–particularly on the internet–who feel as if they are animals. Quite a number of these individuals say that they are actually cats. Should the government be mandated to place litter-boxes everywhere in order to accommodate these individuals since they would feel oh-so persecuted to have to use a regular restroom? As well, the textbook psychology example of delusion happens to be people who truly believe they are Napoleon. These people are adamant that they are Napoleon. Should the government be mandated to build everyone who thinks they’re Napoleon their very own Versailles and act as France in order to treat their dysphoria? Of course not. It would be laughable for the government to be required to appeal to these segments of the population; yet, taking “equality” to the extreme, the government must provide for these people, or else the government is “depriving equal access” to the group and “not treating them equal to everyone else.”

Everyone (read: everyone) knows that “male” and “restrooms” refer to a person’s genitalia. It’s just merely less obscene for facilities to say “women” and “men” versus “vagina” and “penis.” There is no need to change how things work just because a very tiny percentage of the population might potentially feel uncomfortable. Certainly, there is no need to have tax-payers foot the exorbitant bill for something as irrelevant and inconsequential as additional bathrooms for people who may never even use them. In fact, the construction of these restrooms has huge potential for exorbitant abuse of tax-payer money.

Since the transgender restrooms are going to be installed under the banner of “equality” and “human rights”, the government will not shy away from going all out in order to fund it. No politician wants to be known as that person who said “no” to funding something as great as equality, of course—especially when the town said it has an agenda of catering to the gay community!

unknown #sexist debate.org

[ on lowering the age of consent to 13 ]

Yes as long as both families agree. Humans know right from wrong when they are around 7.

They should also have to get a job and work at 13. Americans are just gonna get fatter and lazier and soon this country will start treating people in their mid 20s like children. We need to get back to the way things used to be. Americans are immature because they have terrible parenting. I started working in my dad's shop when I was 8 years old, graduated high school at 16, had save my first 10k (that I earned myself) before my 18th birthday, graduated college at 19, and paid off my home at 29. I also became sexually active at 13, I knew the consequences of my actions because I was made to take more and more care of myself at an early age. Parents now days want to hold their kids hands until they are 30. It's time for Americans to grow up. I'm not saying it's right to prey on the young, but what parents are doing isn't good either, stop sheltering and start letting them be responsible for their own actions.

messedupbeyondrepair & uglykoreangirl #sexist reddit.com

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I hate the normie delusion that ugly people don't exist. We do exist, and I am a perfect example of one.

"Just get a better haircut/wear makeup/work out/take a shower, sis!"

I have spent TENS of THOUSANDS of dollars on makeup, skincare, haircare, diet pills, and injections, and am also currently saving up more than 70% of my income per month just to get cosmetic surgery next summer. This doesn't count the even more exorbitant amount I've spent on clothes that are meant to flatter my nonexistent figure, and all the time and effort I've spent looking at makeup tutorials, researching skincare techniques, and reading books on self-love and grooming. I am tired and I have done my best-- but apparently this isn't enough.

I'm so sick of normies spouting bullshit like how ugly people don't exist. That is not true and EVERYONE knows it's not true. Ugly people are treated worse, bullied in school, and ostracized for nothing more than what we were unfortunately born with. But no, apparently it's just because I don't groom myself that I'm ugly. That my haircut isn't flattering, or that I probably don't know how to take care of myself. That I don't wear makeup, and that apparently makeup is supposed to have these amazing transformative properties when in reality the vast majority of OMG TRANSFORMATION MAKEUP involves a Stacy with bad skin.

Throughout my life, I have been treating like garbage for how I've looked. I tried to wear makeup and a cute halter top in high school and a guy gave me a disgusted look and told me I looked hideous to my face. People have asked me out on fake dates, dared their friends to ask me out, and treated me as the butt of jokes when I did absolutely nothing but dare to be who I was born as. Then they'll turn their backs and claim that I wasn't "trying hard enough", when really I have tried so hard just to have my self-esteem crushed even more by people who think ugly people aren't worthy of love, dignity, and respect.

(uglykoreangirl)
Yep. People are full of shit. "yOu juSt NeEd tO bE cOnFiDeNttTTTT", "THerE iS NO sUcH tHiNG aS UniVersaLly bEaUtiFuL PeoPle, iT's cOmpLetelY SubjeCtivE". I once made a comment on another subreddit on how much tougher life gets when you're ugly, and people went ballistic with the downvotes. Because NO ONE CARE'S ABOUT YOUR LOOK IT'S ALL ABOUT YOUR PERSONALITYYYYYY. Someone, who got a ton of upvotes, even said that working out made people sexy because of their motivation, not because a fit body is attractive. Sigh.

I'm sorry you've experienced what you have. And I know just how frustrating it is to not be taken seriously when you try to tell others how you're constantly treated like a second-class citizen, or flat out just gets ignored. It's always "you're just imagining things / have you tried being more/less outgoing? / I know a great Youtuber who... / maybe you should smile more!" or some other stupid clichées that I highly doubt they themself believe.

But hey, at least you're saving up for surgery! And next summer isn't that far away. I really wish you the best and that you'll find happiness.

CH #sexist heartiste.wordpress.com

There are two societal cataclysms set to collide in the West, and unless we foresee them, as CH has foreseen them, and actively prevent their efflorescence, the West is doomed.

The Sexbot Revolution (it’s happening), in conjunction with the introduction of the male Pill, will upend the sexual market and bring chaos to long-established and evolved implicit rules of conduct. The biggest impact will be a reduction in the asking price of women (in normie terms: a lot of sub-hottie women will have to date below their league if they don’t want to be alone). Sexbots, and other realistic simulacra of sex with a hot woman, will occupy the attention and, ahem, energy of a mass of omega and beta males who will prefer the intense experience of release with their Minka Kelly lookalike bots over uninspiring sex with the human plain janes and fatties who would normally be their lot.

What sexbots and VR tech (yolodecks) will essentially create is a massive unemployment crisis among Western women. These castaways will struggle to find love and marriage (which is a woman’s prime purpose in life). Omega males and those marginal rejects on the left hand side of the beta male curve will also be out of the sexual market, but their joblessness won’t hit them as psychologically hard as it does beta women, because the men will be the jobless equivalent of “not seeking work”, content to wile away their recreational time (by then almost all their time) in the uncannily supple bosoms of their sexbots.

Alpha men will take up the IRL slack and collect large de facto, and by that time de jure, harems of girlfriends, wives, and mistresses. It won’t be long after sexbots become affordable that there will be changes in law to permit polygyny (one alpha man, many women). Polygyny is Africa, if you need a picture in your head.

After a while, there will be sexbots for women, though the technology to make a realistic male sexbot will have to be far more advanced, given that lonely women will want them mostly for romantic pillow talk, intuitive understanding, and household chores.

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The Robot Revolution (it’s been happening) will squeeze the sexual market from the other end. Just as mass Dirt World immigration has gutted the wages of working class men and fueled the opioid epidemic in their towns, the mass immigration of robots into the job market will place more downward pressure on the wages of blue collar men and in most cases drive them completely out of work, with no hope of new market niches opening up that don’t require high IQ and educational attainment to realistically enter.

Eventually, like with male sexbots filling the sexual market vacuum left by female sexbots, carnally-neutral industrial robots will move into pink collar and even some white collar occupations, putting a lot of “Gay Mulatto’s people” out of work. In fifty years, robots will be doing accounting, legal, administrative, HR, data entry, reporting, and maybe even programming jobs. That’s a lot of “new economy” jobs removed from human circulation by robots. It won’t be just service industry grunts or farmhands who bear the brunt of automation.

Think of it this way: industrial and commercial robots replace repetitive motion and repetitive thinking tasks, sexbots replace repetitive relationship and repetitive reproduction tasks.

Any repetitive motion or thinking task can be automated, and will be if the FREE MARKET is left to its invisible hand devices. The same goes for sexbots putting metaphorical pink collars out of work.

The Luddism counter-argument that usually comes up when this topic stirs libertardians from their vape dens falls immediately flat on close inspection. Automobiles (proto-robots) put a lot of horses out to pasture, with no chance for job retraining because horses aren’t very smart and can’t be taught C++. These excess horses were killed for dog meat and soap, or returned to the wild to fend for themselves. There are limits to market niche exploitation and economic mobility; each new and improved automation revolution ratchets up the cognitive demands on those “put out to pasture” by the robot technology.

As robots take over ever more low-, mid-, and high-skill jobs, the humans formerly employed in those jobs simply won’t have the IQ horsepower or suitable temperament to adequately retrain themselves in the chaotically reoriented job market that will be created in the wake of the robot economy. It’s pie-in-the-sky wishful thinking to presume a longshoreman can be retrained to, say, program robot algorithms. And all those lawyers and paralegals who lose their jobs to automation will have a tough time trying to learn principles of electrical conductance.

The ones who will be spared the negative externalities of the robot and sexbot revolutions will be those whose creativity, fluid intelligence, spontaneity, and incomparable sexuality can’t be sufficiently mimicked by artificial substitutes. Perhaps street artists will be lucky enough to avoid joblessness in our robot overlord future, whatever income pittance they must accept for their artistic vision, and be free to carry on snarking about “Trumpkins” and “redneck methheads”.

Alpha males won’t have to worry about sexbots; for them, the sexbot revolution will create a pornucopia of delights as they are besieged by desperate women who literally can’t find a man because three quarters of them are locked in their bedrooms completely satiated from week-long sessions with their Ivanka Trumpbots. Slender hot babes will still have a real man to call their own….as long as they’re ok with him calling additional women his own. I’m not saying this to spite anyone; I’m a messenger of sexual market reality, and I’m telling you this is what’s most likely to happen when armies of hot babe substitutes are introduced into the field of courtship. Sexbots will skew the sex ratio and that has mate choice implications that greatly amplify the affects of vidgya gaming and YouFap.

The Globohomo Bathhouse Alliance won’t have to worry about job-stealing robots (at first), unless AI progresses to the point that Skynet makes human class distinctions irrelevant (in the “wipe all the classes out” way). So don’t expect our queer leaders to do anything to stop the robot, or sexbot, invasions. If anything, they’ll encourage the sexbot and robot takeover, assuming its the best intervention to mollify the uppity masses.

The remaining mystery is what, exactly, all those jobless Westerners will buy with the money they’re not making. Mass joblessness means sexbots rotting on the shelves. The 1% will become the 0.0001% and there won’t be enough wealthy investors to keep the robot revolution moving forward. There will have to be an injection of money from somewhere, and that will mean the government printing money like it’s going out of style, to pay all those now-expendable humans a guaranteed basic income. Inflation will, must, return with a fury.

Alternatively, robots will decrease the price of almost all consumer goods so dramatically (due to low extraction and production overhead and zero human labor costs) that everything one could want will cost pennies, and we will have a society like the Wall-E spaceship, all needs catered and pleasures serviced by round-the-clock robots and sexbots, as we get fatter, weaker, stupider, lazier, more feminized, and less rebellious toward the disappearance of meaning from our lives. Government will exist primarily to regulate the profits that the top 0.00001% — those who own the robot-operated factories and distribution centers — can skim from their enterprises, because there will be democratically-elected incentive to keep the prices of goods affordable for people making no more than the Fake Money from their Fake Incomes provided to them by Uncle Samantha.

What I am predicting, then, is a total fertility and financial collapse in the West not long after the robot and sexbot revolutions metastasize and Occupy Main Street. Robots will herald financial collapse from debt spending and money printing. Sexbots will herald fertility collapse from marriage abandonment and a mass exodus of men and women from the dating scene. Literally, currency and seed will be spilled fruitlessly into an empty abyss.

Cataclysms colliding. The people who voted for Trump, in their unarticulated way, are the first angsty salvos against this coming collision. Nationalism, race, and family are the only bulwarks that can stop the dystopian juggernaut, and that’s why the elite are in a frenzy to stump what Trump represents.

Liberty Councel #fundie lc.org

As we remember today the life and legacy of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., we are inspired by his courage to combat injustice that had become imbedded in our culture and our law.

Writing from a jail cell in Birmingham, Alabama, Dr. King said, “I would be the first to advocate obeying just laws. One has not only a legal but a moral responsibility to obey just laws. Conversely, one has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws. I would agree with St. Augustine that ‘an unjust law is no law at all.’”

“Marriage as the union of one man and one woman was not created by government or religion. It is rooted in natural law,” said Mat Staver, Founder and Chairman of Liberty Counsel. “Same-sex marriage is contrary to the natural created order of God Almighty. Laws deconstructing natural marriage and which compel people to affirm sinful sexual behavior or unions are unjust.”

Sir William Blackstone, whose Commentaries was the impetus of the Declaration of Independence and the foundation of American law, said, “This law of nature, being coequal with mankind and dictated by God himself, is of course superior in any obligation to any other. It is binding over all the globe in all countries, and at all times; no human laws are of any validity, if contrary to this.”

Today, the legacy of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., is being lived out by bakers, photographers, florists, ministers, county clerks, and owners of wedding venues who have lost their businesses, been forced to pay exorbitant fines, been threatened with jail, and made to choose between the natural created order of marriage between one man and one woman and judges who side with same-sex couples.

Thomas Jefferson is credited with writing, “When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty.”

Liberty Counsel is an international nonprofit, litigation, education, and policy organization dedicated to advancing religious freedom, the sanctity of life, and the family since 1989, by providing pro bono assistance and representation on these and related topics.

holyspiritwind #fundie godlikeproductions.com

Transformation Begins After "Aliens" (Fallen Angels) Revealed

Ezekiel 33:6
If the watchman sees the sword coming and does not blow the trumpet, and the people are not warned, and the sword comes and takes any person from among them, he is taken away in his iniquity; but his blood I will require at the watchman’s hand.

The world's evil is at new heights of wickedness and they are totally blinded and deafened to my truth. The great deception is almost complete. The darkness is getting blacker and the light of My glory is getting brighter. Have I not said in my word that everything that is hidden will be uncovered and exposed. Have I not said in my word that as it was in the days of Noah so shall it be in the time of the return of the Son?

After the flood there was a veil put in place to guard against the evil one and the fallen angels. The veil is being removed slowly but in the days just ahead it will be ripped away suddenly and the time that you now know will be a thing of the past. Do not long for the past as Lot's wife did for you will perish like her. This will be a time of testing like never before.

Do not be deceived by the false teaching of demons and men. My bride will not escape from this earth till her work is done. The great end time harvest. You will be greatly rewarded for your work for My kingdom. Then I come for you!

Your transformation will begin when the fallen angels who most will call "aliens" are revealed, after My judgment of fire has begun. It is then that My mighty ones will be revealed also. My manifest sons and daughters. My wrath is not on My own, and I will keep My own from harm. They will overcome by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony and they will not be afraid of death, because there is nothing of the world in them.

I warn you now My beloved, that men’s hearts will fail them from fear and the expectation of those things which are coming on the earth, for the powers of the heavens will be shaken. When these powers are shaken there will no longer be any place found for them in heaven. They now inhabit the spiritual realm but they will be cast down, lowered so that everyone will see them for what they really are, truly hideous , repulsive but powerful beings from the far ends of the heavens. Hollywood has only scratched the surface of the pure evil and terribleness of these serpents and dragons. What is coming to earth is far worse that any movie has ever depicted. The book of the Revelation of Jesus Christ to John is literal not figurative and every prophecy in My word will be fulfilled. My word is truth!

My power far exceeds theirs and My children will have My power and authority without measure. Men will not be able to overcome them in their own strength, they will have to call upon Me for help! This is an act of mercy that most do not understand. My children will go out and speak My name and signs, wonders and miracles will be preformed. The harvest is great and the workers few.

Do not fear, just draw very close to Me now. Fear only Me, for My power defeats the enemy. Time is very, very short and I am warning you now so you are not caught unaware. I ask you to take what you have read to Me in prayer and discern it. I AM coming for My bride!

Do not give up hope , I will never leave you or forsake you.

I love you with an everlasting and immeasurable love,

Jesus Christ the beginning and the end

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The first verse is from the Bible.God spoke the rest to me , through the Holy Spirit. It is a warning!

Graeystone #conspiracy graeystone.deviantart.com

Say you are Kathy Griffin and you did what she did with the Bloody Head of Trump. What would your next action be after 'apologizing'? Would you take a long hard look in the mirror and do some serious thinking about what kind of person you are? Would you realize you may need some kind of mental and/or spiritual help and seek out a psychiatrist and/or pastor? Would you just plain shut up and eat the Humble Pie that's just been handed to you?

Or would you continues to flap your gums against the wind by blaming others for your own screw up that you knew was a bad idea in the first place while pretending to be the actual victim in all of this?

Kathy Griffin chose the second paragraph. Now she's blaming Donald Trump even though the harshest thing he said in his Tweet was that it was sick. Melena was more harsh than Donald.

Kathy is now complaining about 'specific death threats'. . .um, name me one celebrity in any ranking of A-D that never received some kind of death threat? I'm sure Kathy has had her share of death threats(and for those who are doing it now I hope the cops do find you!) so complaining about them now as if its a first time thing or not realizing that being in the public eye, whether in a positive manner or negative manner, will lead to them.

She's also whining about the Secret Service investigating her as if that's a bad thing. IT'S THEIR JOB TO INVESTIGATE THIS SORT OF THING! Did Kathy actually think that the Secret Service wouldn't investigate something like this?

What's even worse is that Kathy is acting like she's being persecuted. She claims Trump using the power of the government broke her. Um. . .the only thing the government is doing is preforming a Secret Service investigation. Its not like she is a member of a Republican and/or Conservative Non-Profit Group that is refused a Non-Profit Status by the IRS or are forced to choose between their First Amendment Rights and Non-Profit Status.

If anything Kathy is a Red Head Bitter Spoiled Brat In Adult Body Version Of Hillary Clinton. Instead of being humbled or learning whatever lessons that needed to be learned, Kathy, just like Hillary, blames everyone else for her screw up instead of the person she sees every time she looks into a mirror.

The Rev. William H. Grimes #fundie rationalwiki.org

I think it is important to consider that in the United States, the average life expectancy is 77 years old, while the lifespan of the average transgendered individual is 35. Defying God’s natural law has severe ramifications on physical and mental health. Pumping men with estrogen for long periods of time results in increased risk for cardiovascular problems, blood clots, and other issues ranging from excessive emotional distress to morbid obesity. For those with a family history of heart disease, this so-called “treatment” will cause cardiovascular related death more quickly than eating Big Macs and fries for every meal every day of the week while drinking gallons of soda and living a sedentary lifestyle. This is why I believe that “cross-sex hormone therapy” should be banned as it violates the first precept of the Hippocratic Oath; the strongly negative effects from this “treatment” proves God’s natural law displayed in Genesis 1:27. Therefore the most humane thing would be to reinforce proper gender roles and possibly administer an antipsychotic such as Pimozide or Thorazine, instead of doing the equivalent of giving an alcoholic a fifth of Jack Daniels as the essay clearly states. It’s enabling, it’s inhumane, and it’s inherently harmful and detrimental.—William Grimes (talk) 15:54, 7 November 2017 (UTC)

2 mini coons #racist niggermania.net

I've recently found out that one of the superiors in my workplace is self-admittedly a Quadroon (1/4 nigger). It's crazy because at first glance he could pass as a white mestizo or spaniard, but he really didn't look like a nigger except that he was tanner than most whites and had dark eyes. I must be psychic or something, because I started to get a few hunches and raised eyebrows that he was a crypto-nigger, when I saw how well got on with the other niggers, how supportive he was of their niggershines, and just his general disposition.

Anyway, It really is true; the one drop rule. This nigger is supposed to be a fucking leader and has been in the military far longer than i have but all he does is sit in his chair and fuck around all day, there's not a single ounce of dog-hearted initiative in this nigger's bones. It's amazing how incompetent he is, he can't drive for shit, fucks up novice task, and barely has any understanding/knowledge of our job field even though he's supposed to have been certified at multiple skill levels by now. I seriously can't fathom how he's managed to stay in this long, has the military really become that lax?

He's so fucking lazy, even lazier than the darker niggers at our job who he seems to get along perfectly fine with. That's right instead of doing adminstrative work, he wanders around the squadron building looking for other lazy niggers to loaf and jive around with, instinctively, as if he was just like any ordinary nigger. He will only work as much he needs to, so that he can blow shit off till the next day or not get his ass chewed out. There are younger humans at my job with less experience than him yet will put in 10x as much work as he does with zero complaints, while he shamelessly sits on his lard ass watching hip hop shit on his phone and shouts vague assortments of hoorahs and "you can do it boys!" whilst me and my peers sweat beades and work afterhours because we have to carry this bastard's weight!!

It doesn't matter if it's half nigger, quarter nigger, quadroon, or an octoroon! It is still a nigger im every way that matters. 1% niggers are among us too, if you feel like something's off about someone and they display a good amount of TNB and get along swimmingly with even the worst niggers then they're probably a nigger.

Why is it so hard to care about your subordinates?! Why is it so hard to have integrity?! Why can't you take pride in your work?! Why don't you want to be comptentent in your job field?! Why can't you work hard?! Why can't you pay attention to detail! God Damn!

Svarog123 #fundie reddit.com

There is nothing inherently harmful or immoral about having sex with children CMV

There are a number of arguments used by proponents of the prevailing cultural mythology on the subject:

1. Children are psychologically damaged by sexual activity

Sex is an inherently pleasurable activity- the claim that children are inherently "harmed" or "traumatized" by sex is demonstrably false, supported by no scientific research, and is essentially absurd, as children are not asexual (a point I will address later).

"The self-reported effects data contradict the conclusions or implications presented in previous literature reviews that harmful effects stemming from CSA are pervasive and intense in the population of persons with this experience. Baker and Duncan (1985) found that, although some respondents reported permanent harm stemming from their CSA experiences (4% of males and 13% of females), the overwhelming majority did not (96% of males and 87% of females). Severe or intense harm would be expected to linger into adulthood, but this did not occur for most respondents in this national sample, according to their self-reports, contradicting the conclusion or implication of intense harm stemming from CSA in the typical case. Meta-analyses of CSA-adjustment relations from the five national studies that reported results of adjustment measures revealed a consistent pattern: SA respondents were less well adjusted than control respondents. Importantly, however, the size of this difference (i.e., effect size) was consistently small in the case of both males and females. The unbiased effect size estimate for males and females combined was ru = .08, which indicates that CSA, assuming that it was responsible for the adjustment difference between SA and control respondents, did not produce intense problems on average."

Rind, Bruce & Tromovitch, Philip (1997). "A meta-analytic review of findings from national samples on psychological correlates of child sexual abuse," Journal of Sex Research, 34, 237-255.

The Rind meta-analysis is peer-reviewed, and its conclusion has not been discredited to date.

Often, when psychological damage does occur, it is not the result of the act itself, but rather the result of society's reaction to it:

Nelson's relationship marked "the happiest period of [her] life." "When I was a child I experienced an ongoing incestuous relationship that seemed to me to be caring and beneficial in nature. There were love and healthy self-actualization in what I perceived to be a safe environment. Suddenly one day I discerned from playground talk at school that what I was doing might be "bad". Fearing that I might, indeed, be a "bad" person, I went to my mother for reassurance. The ensuing traumatic incidents of that day inaugurated a 30-year period of psychological and emotional dysfunction that reduced family communication to mere utilitarian process and established severe limits on my subsequent developmental journey."

Sexologist Joan A. Nelson in Children and Sex, on her relationship with an adult cousin at 8 years of age December, 1981

In other words, if the prevailing belief was not that having sex as a child is the worst thing that could possibly happen, psychological issues stemming from childhood sexual experience would lessen drastically.

2. Children are essentially asexual

This is false. The orgasmic reflex develops in the womb:

"We recently observed a female fetus at 32 weeks' gestation touching the vulva with the fingers of the right hand. The caressing movements were centered primarily on the region of the clitoris. Movements stopped after 30 to 40 seconds and started again after a few minutes. Furthermore, these slight touches were repeated and were associated with short, rapid movements of pelvis and legs. After another break, in addition to this behavior, the fetus contracted the muscles of the trunk and limbs, and then clonicotonic movements of the whole body followed. Finally, she relaxed and rested.

We observed this behavior for about 20 minutes. The mother was an active and interested witness, conversing with observers about her child's experience.

Evidence of male fetuses' excitement reflex in utero, such as erection or ?masturbation” movements, has been previously reported.

The current observation seems to show not only that the excitement reflex can be evoked in female fetuses at the third trimester of gestation but also that the orgasmic reflex can be elicited during intrauterine life. This would agree with the physiologic features of female sexuality: The female sexual response is separate from reproductive functions and doesn't need a full sexual maturity to be explicit."

Giorgi, Giorgio, and Siccardi, Marco (1996). "Ultrasonographic observation of a female fetus' sexual behavior in utero," American Journal of Obstetrics and Gynecology, 175, 3(1, part 1), 753.

"In a 1999 study of undergraduate students, 5.2% of females and 12.8% of males reported having engaged in sex play with their peers involving genital contact before elementary school, and that 1.3% of girls and 4.0% of boys had engaged in sex play involving anal/genital insertion (with objects or fingers) or oral-genital intercourse before elementary school. By the end of elementary school, the numbers increased to 29.2% for females and 32.9% for males for genital contact and 12.3 for girls and 10.1% for boys for insertion or oral sex. Very little pressure and almost no coercion were reported."

Reynolds, M.A., Herbenick, D. L., & Bancroft, J. (2003). The nature of childhood sexual experiences: Two studies 50 years apart. In J. Bancroft (Ed.), Sexual Development in Childhood (pp. 134-155). Indiana: Indiana University Press.

If children masturbate, orgasm, and have sex with each other, it is absurd to claim they are asexual.

3. Children cannot consent, and therefore having sex with children is rape, and we all know rape is harmful and immoral

Consent refers to the provision of agreement- if children are capable of initiating sexual activity, it is nonsensical to claim they cannot consent to it.

For example, in the animal kingdom, which has no taboo on childhood sexuality, sex between adult and children is common:

"Both adult males and females interact sexually with adolescents and juveniles (three-to-nine-year-olds). In fact, young females go through a five-to-six-year period sometimes referred to as ADOLESCENT STERILITY (although no pathology is involved) during which they actively participate in heterosexual mating (often with adults) but never get pregnant. Sexual behavior between adults and infants of both sexes is common - about a third of the time it is initiated by the infant and may involve genital rubbing and full copulatory postures (including penetration of an adult female by a male infant). (Biological Exuberance - 274)

Who is raping whom when the infant initiate sexual activity? Does the infant rape itself or does the adult rape the infant by not denying it sexual gratification?

3a. Children lack the ability to make informed consent

Sex is not some kind of complex and incomprehensible activity that requires a lot of knowledge to preform correctly- it is one of the simplest things in existence. Animals surely don't "understand" what sex is, yet it would be absurd to say all sex between animals is harmful or immoral.

5. This thread is disgusting and so are you.

This is not an argument.

Note that even though there is nothing inherently harmful about having sex with children, in our sex-negative culture, it very often is- see Joan A Nelson's quote above for an example. The harm did not come about from the sex itself, but from society's reaction to it- but regardless, it is still grossly immoral to risk ruining a child's life for the sake of an orgasm, even if the damage comes from iatrogenic sources.

So I'm not saying it's OK to have sex with children in this day and age- it most certainly is not. But the only reason it isn't is because of society's hysterical, unscientific, and maladaptive attitude towards this subject- if this were different, I see no reason why engaging in a harmless and mutually pleasurable activity with a child would be either harmful or immoral.

Some incels #transphobia reddit.com

Re: 90% of /r/detrans are female-to-male, because women realize quickly that being a short weak framed man is HELL. BLACKPILLED

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(HighIQPakiCel)

Imagine a 5'4 feminist type deciding to become a man, thinking she'll get "male privilege". She takes testosterone and gets her tits cut off and becomes a weak framed 5'4 incel that no woman wants to date. LMAO LIFE FEUL.

They want their female privilege back immediately. They thought they wanted male privilege, what they really wanted was CHAD PRIVILEGE.

And the ugly fat balding man who has never gotten a date in his life puts on a skirt and bra & has guys lining up to fuck him. Transgenderism is a huge blackpill.

Men who become women can be put in 2 categories.

Transwomen who like men/trannies: In this case they have immediate access to infinite sex with men and other trannies.

Transwomen who like women: In this case it's fucking over lmao. Lesbian women don't want to date a fucking manly tranny. This is where the "high suicide" is. These trannys realize that real women want nothing to do with them, they either suicide or settle for other trannys. Almost no trannies pass, 99.9% look like freaks without fakeup

Interesting. Now that you mention de-transitioning, I'm really curious about the percentages now. I know more transitions are MtF, but it sounds right that FtM would have more quitters.

It seems 90%~ of detrans people are FTM, even though the vast majority of trans people are MTF. These numbers are staggering, even moreso when you adjust for population of ftm vs mtf

(gloomcel)

And unless they are Asians usually they will never pass. Asian have narrowed shoulders and small bones which help with finding clothes

There’s a chance for a male to female transgender to improve their life. It’s small, and most trannies don’t pass for real women but when they do it’s a good improvement.

Female to male is like someone giving you a large pizza and chicken wings for free and you throwing that perfectly good food into the garbage. The same person buys you the pizza and wings every day.... only for you to throw it away.

Seriously. Being a man is brutal and based on how much money you have and how big and strong you are.

Women say men have the winning ticket. Only Chad does.

Exactly, they never wanted to be male, they wanted to be Chad

Being Chad means people take you seriously. Incel like me can speak the truth but I am not attractive so people won’t accept it

(whimDEE)

there should be more debate about this topic. i wonder WHY women change back to women after they had a taste of what it was like being a man.

i wonder what the suicide/depression rates are for FtM as well. i bet it’s a lot higher than MtF. KEK

And this is despite the fact that women can look more convincingly like a man than vice versa, minus the height.

Davide Piffer #racist #sexist amren.com

Creativity, Genes, and Racial Differences

Davide Piffer is an Italian evolutionary anthropologist. He received a BA in Anthropology from the University of Bologna and a Master of Science in Evolutionary Anthropology from Durham University in England. His Master’s thesis was on the sexual selection of sleep patterns among humans, and was the first to link mating behavior to chronotype (sleep patterns during a 24-hour period) within an evolutionary framework. His research later shifted to quantitative genetics, and he published one of the first studies of the heritability of creative achievement. In 2013, he switched to molecular genetics, focusing on the polygenic evolution of educational achievement and intelligence, and this remains his main focus. Within this area, his main finding is that ethnic differences in intelligence are largely explained by the thousands of genetic variants that predict cognitive abilities within populations.

Grégoire Canlorbe: As Leonardo da Vinci pointed out in his notebooks, “The black races of Ethiopia are not products of the sun, for if in Scythia a black man makes a child to a black woman, the offspring is black; but if a black man inseminates a white woman, the offspring is gray. Proof that the race of the mother has as much power over the fetus as that of the father.” Besides skin color, how do you sum up what we know — or appear to know — about heritable racial differences in traits such as intelligence, creativity, or even the rate of maturation of male voices?

Davide Piffer: As I said, creativity has been neglected by geneticists and many psychologists, so unfortunately we know next to nothing about race or individual genetic differences in creativity. With regards to intelligence, there is a growing consensus, thanks to the work of myself and colleagues, that racial differences have a genetic basis. This comes from different lines of evidence, using the most recent methods of population genetics: admixture analysis and polygenic scores.

As for voice maturation, Philippe Rusthon proposed the theory that the Mongoloids are the most K-evolved and the Negroids are the least K-evolved, while the Caucasoids fall between the two, although closer to the Mongoloids. This theory is supported by a large amount of data. I made a new contribution to Rushton’s theory by presenting data on race differences in the age at which the voice breaks in boys. The prediction from Rushton’s theory and the hypothesis to be tested is that the voice should break at a younger age in Negroids than in Caucasoids. The hypothesis was successfully corroborated.

Grégoire Canlorbe: Your most conclusive investigations in behavioral genetics deal with the connection between sexual selection and sleep patterns — or that between sexual selection and both sex- and country-level differences in performance on tests of fluid intelligence. Could you tell us more about it?

Davide Piffer: I was the first to investigate the relationship between sleep patterns and sexual behavior among humans as part of my MSc’s dissertation at Durham University. My original work was later replicated by a researcher from Sri Lanka and a group from Germany. Sleep is well known to affect mating behavior in many animal species, and some heritable differences in chronotype also predict mating success among men, both in Western and non-Western societies.

The effect seems to go above and beyond personality (extraversion) and the propensity to engage in social activities at night. Being a night owl is associated with going out at night, thus increasing the chances of meeting a member of the other sex, but also with testosterone levels. We still don’t know if it is also perceived as an attractive feature in males, but it has significant sex differences, with males across different societies being more likely to be night owls than females, so it is a candidate target for sexual selection.

Some years ago, I published a paper in which I proposed an explanation of the paradox that more developed countries, with higher equality of the sexes, had a higher sex inequality in IQ scores. That is, in more developed countries, men are smarter than women, but this sex difference is much smaller or absent in less developed countries. For example, in Muslim countries, women have higher ability than men, so we could call this the Muslim paradox. This is the opposite of what one would expect from a purely environmental perspective, because women get more education in sex-equal countries. What I found was that smarter countries had higher sex differences independent of GDP or equality of the sexes.

A potential mechanism that I did not mention in the paper but that occurred to me later is that in industrialized countries, dysgenic fertility is mainly driven by highly educated females having fewer children and later in life, whereas male intelligence is not generally related to reproductive success. This sex disparity in dysgenic fertility would cause women to decline in intelligence relative to men.

This may not seem obvious. Because both men and women contribute to the genotypes of children, the fact that high-IQ women have few children should depress the IQ of both sexes, not that of women only. The question is more subtle, however, because many complex traits have sex-specific mechanism of expression, so that the same allele has different effects in males and females, even if the genes are not located on the sex chromosomes.

Grégoire Canlorbe: You devised a methodology to detect polygenic selection, a mechanism that acts on many genetic variants simultaneously. You have done this in particular with educational attainment. How do you summarize your approach?

Davide Piffer: My approach moves away from classical methods that focused on a single gene, because most traits are polygenic — the result of contributions of many alleles, or gene variants — and the effect of each is so diluted that you need to study many genetic variants in order to detect a pattern of selection. The frequency of a single allele is mainly affected by genetic drift unless that allele has a very strong effect on a trait such as, for example, sickle-cell anemia. Natural selection also affects population frequencies of alleles, but the effect on a single allele is typically so small that it can go unnoticed. However, when you simultaneously look at hundreds or thousands of alleles, you start seeing a pattern because the effects of random drift on each allele cancel each another out, and what is left is the directional effect of natural selection, which acts more strongly on some populations than on others, according to the environmental conditions or the sexual dynamics across the millennia.

Of course, these alleles are not picked at random from the genome. They come from studies called GWAS (“genome-wide association study”) which explore the correlation between millions of genetic variants or SNPs (single-nucleotide polymorphisms) and some phenotype or trait, such as years of education or height, using very large samples (from 100,000 to over a million individuals). These studies then find the SNPs with the strongest phenotypic effect, that is those that can increase an individual’s IQ by half an IQ point or increase height by as much as a centimeter.

The average frequency of alleles weighted by their effect on the phenotype (e.g. IQ) is called the polygenic score. Polygenic scores can be used to predict how well individuals do in school, or their height, or risk for cardiovascular disease. These scores are based on direct biological evaluation of a subject’s genome, so they are unaffected by culture, family differences, or any other factor that is commonly claimed to invalidate traditional IQ testing. I calculated polygenic scores for populations by averaging the scores of samples from different ethnic groups available on public databases. In the case of educational attainment and intelligence, I used between 2,400 and 3,500 of the most significant SNPs to compute polygenic scores.

What I found was that these population-level polygenic scores had a very high correlation of r=0.9 with scores on standardized intelligence tests. Ashkenazi Jews have the highest polygenic scores, followed by East Asians, then Europeans, South Asians, Native Americans and Blacks. A correlation this high would occur at odds of only one in 46,000 if the SNPs had been chosen at random. Furthermore, the SNPs associated with the greatest intelligence differences between populations were also associated with the greatest differences between individuals within a single population. This supports the view that both kinds of difference were the result of selection.

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Grégoire Canlorbe: You made the claim that the north-south difference in Italy in fluid intelligence should be understood in terms of genetic differences between the populations. What data corroborate that hypothesis?

Davide Piffer: Historically, literacy levels and economic prosperity have been higher in the north than in the south. Data collected by Richard Lynn have shown that these differences are reflected in scores on tests of intelligence and scholastic aptitude (PISA and INVALSI).

There are strong genetic differences within Italy, recently corroborated by an in-depth study (Raveane at al., 2019). These differences were mostly established in pre-Roman times: Bronze-Age migrations from the Eastern European steppes (Indo-Aryans) in the north and West Asians from the Caucasus in the south. The Latin people who founded ancient Rome belonged to the Indo-European/Aryan group, along with other Italic tribes, such as the Veneti who later founded Venice.

Later migrations strengthened the pre-existing differences. In the first millennium BC, groups of Celtic people (originating from Indo-Aryans, like the native northern Italians such as the Veneti and the Ligurians) settled in the north and mixed with their ethnic cousins (that is why the Roman name for northern Italy was Gallia Cisalpina), and the Greeks heavily colonized the South (Magna Graecia) in the 1st millennium BC. In the Middle Ages, Germanic people invaded Italy and mostly added to the genetic pool of northern Italy (mostly Lombards and Gothic peoples) with some pockets in central and southern Italy (the Lombards in the Ducato di Benevento and the Normans in Palermo), whereas the south was conquered by Arabs.

CH #racist heartiste.wordpress.com

This is exactly right. GoodWhites who think they can escape to coastal shitlibopolises and live a charmed life in perpetuity free from the “irredeemably foul“* BadWhites are fooling themselves. The bill for replacing White America with Third World America will come due, and it will be enormous. Payment will be made in one form or another, whether in higher taxes, safety, mental health, freedom of mobility, cost of living, lineage continuity, cultural familiarity, social trust, shared values, basic livability, or aesthetic pleasures.

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That’s why it is always a laugh to me that there are SWPL shitlibs who enjoy stupidly snarking that BadWhites are paranoid for believing minorities are “coming for them”. Yes, they are. Maybe not with guns a-blazing (although they do that, too, disproportionately), but they come for us in myriad ways that make life less enjoyable. They come for our welfare, paid with our taxes. They come for our hospital services, paid with our insurance premiums. They come for our peace of mind, paid for with exorbitant housing costs, home security, and expensive school districts. They come for our vote, by diluting our political voice and forcing us to live under a government that only marginally, if at all, addresses our concerns, and is more often actively hostile to them. They come for our culture, corrupting it to suit their lowbrow preferences.

NonWhite Diversity costs Whites A LOT, and in my book that means they are, indeed, coming for us. They are coming for our way of life and twisting it, unconsciously, into a facsimile of the shitholes they left behind. And yet evil, hateful bitches like Michelle Goldberg express glee at the prospect! Love wins!

Likewise, the above empty-headed shitlib sarcasm is why I have no patience for that other trope shitlibs weakly trot out when the debate has taken a turn away from their control: “You’re just being played by rich White people who use divide and conquer to keep you focused on irrelevant issues like mass immigration and away from their greed”. Funny, they are always circumspect about exactly WHO comprises a healthy share of those “rich White people”. That aside, rich White people don’t have to play divide and conquer; the Diversity™ brings the divide and conquer on its own. All the rich White people have to do is make sure the Diversity™ can storm our borders. As for rich White person greed, it’s not a mutually exclusive concern; we can oppose both a greedy elite and open borders.

BrilliantlyMinded #fundie robert.ismouton.org

Arguing with Christian Feminist about real issues or how to approach anything without the biases one possesses (psychotherapy is not a theology lesson) is like training a dog how to go a toliet like a human being, near impossible without the ridiculious coming into play. I could go on about the realities of the sexes and that religion is a pointless old idea created solely as a result of cave man in attempt to understand the university (though it was of course far from the fact of the matter). Nevertheless, entiled to her opinion but most honestly couldn't get rat ass about religion. Religion spoke it's last insipiring words a very long time ago. Science proved to be the victor, as I can't remember, ever that a divine creator being responible for all that we have now. Feminism also seem to lack any real grounds for to say sexes are even equal (Science says quite the opposite actually) and that any argument a women comes up about a man usually refers the size of the penis, the sexuality of the man and something about not getting laid. In other words, arguments that only result in personal attacks because of insecurities of the those who argue so poorly. Honestly, I think women apart from the promise of sex (as long as you can proved the money) and whatever the companionship thing means is all they're good for.

Women have poor depth preception when compared with men and tend to act more irrationally. Largely why women can't drive, at all. They can't preform as well, what statements of better at literature tend to little more than myth of a passing wind. Even here now, this women has chosen one of the three specialites that most women do when becoming a doctor. Psychrictry, pediatrics and obstetrics. All of which have to do something with nutring. It is simple, women are hardwired to be wives, to look after the kids and Father is ment to show the way, and provide for the family. Women doing anything else, seems to result in the increase in divorce.

Druid Warrior #racist stormfront.org

Have you seen Christopher Nolan's The Dark Knight ?

The Zionist jews are basically the Joker's character. The mobsters are basically the Muslims or other anti-white third-worlders.

Some men not looking for anything logical like money, they can't be reasoned or negotiated with, some men just want to watch the world burn

Jews just want to watch the world burn. Since the dawn of time (the Old Testament prophets in the Christian Bible are not jews), jews always fought and deceived for their own self interest. Believe it or not the first anti-Semite was Jesus Christ himself.

I will make those who are of the synagogue of Satan, who claim to be Jews though they are not, but are liars--I will make them come and fall down at your feet and acknowledge that I have loved you.
Revelation 3:9

I forgot but the "Jews" were doing some kind of corrupt money monopoly stuff in Israel (like Today), and Jesus noticed this and tried to expose them. This is when of course he ended up being crucified. The Romans of course did preform the killing of Jesus, but the "Jews" executed it.

Whether your Christian or not, Jesus started the fight against the jews, it's only fair, that it is finished.

Bill P #racist unz.com

[Soros has] been investing in real estate funds. There’s a push to drive whites back into cities where they can be charged exorbitant rent by giant corporate property owners. Getting blacks to riot in the cities shoved whites out 40 years ago, so he probably figures getting blacks to riot in the burbs will drive them back in. In concert with the riots, smaller cities and suburbs are being sued for “disparate impact” more than ever, to force them to affirmatively seek black section 8 renters.

George Soros has been involved with this disparate impact issue, especially in trying to keep SCOTUS from ruling against these federal lawsuits. There could be a lot of money in forcing whites to move back into cities where rents and housing are far more expensive these days.

Tyler durden #racist niggermania.net

The other day I posted about starting my new job working with a nigger. Well they still haven't fired this chimps yet and I don't understand it because it gets lazier and more entitled every hour of every day. Isay by Monday through this niggers and his she boon will be on da skreet homeless and sheet cuz da boss is a raysiss muhfukka. Yesterday I was talking to the Mexican guy I work with who is 2nd in charge and I already knew he hated this baboon but as we got deeper in conversation I discovered that he hates niggers as much as me.

More maybe (I'm not sure that's possible) and I told him about this site. I even showed him the post from the other day " started my new job working with a nigger" with him bieng part of it and he laughed his ass off. Told me that made his day! So I created a new niggermaniac!!! Oh yeah, today that nigger told some white lady guest a sob story about him and his bitch down on dey luck and sheet and she gave him $50. Yep. No pride. Nigger scum!!!

W. F. Price #sexist web.archive.org

According to a former waitress who is now a “writer”, one Hannah Raskin, a 15% tip just ain’t enough anymore. People are making less than ever, are unable to afford eating out, and yet she’d have them pay servers more than they can afford.

I’ve got nothing against servers, but I hate tipping. I always do it, and my tips fall between 15-20% about 95% of the time. However, if I ran a restaurant, I’d include the gratuity in the price of food. Selling a sandwich for $5? Raise it a buck and give the extra to the server. $1 for a soda-pop? Make it $1.20. I detest feeling that somehow I have to prove my worth by giving the server some exorbitant fee for showing cleavage as she bends over to serve me food. And that’s really what this comes down to — as women have come to dominate food service they’ve sexualized it to the point of something near pole dancing.

Frankly, I’d rather a guy serve me my food. He’ll usually do a better job and not try to use some physical assets to try to open my wallet. Same goes for a therapeutic massage. After getting run over by an old lady doing a thankless, low-wage job that I should have been tipped for, but never was (courier), I had a few sessions of much-needed massage therapy to minimize scar tissue in my neck and back. By far the most useless practitioners were females. Not only were they weak and ineffective, they seemed to feel that I owed them $60/hour simply for them having deigned to touch my back. As a young guy who had no shortage of female attention at the time and definitely needed a therapeutic massage, I certainly didn’t see it that way, and after a couple sessions with lazy, pathetic masseuses I made it a point to demand a masseur – preferably a strong one – or no go.

I’m getting to that point with waitresses. I am quite frankly sick of their entitled, bitchy attitudes. I don’t care if they serve me a sandwich underneath a couple of pushed-up, scented breasts; I don’t go to restaurants to masturbate, after all. Give me a professional, deft man who handles the table with skill and reserve and I’ll be all too happy to pay him what he deserves. But after reading Ms. Raskin’s bitchy, greedy little screed, I’ve vowed that the next slut who tries to squeeze some extra cash out of me by shoving her tits into the center of my visual field gets 10% and no more.

Whatever the case, if I had my way I’d eliminate tips altogether and have waiters work on commission, as I suggested before. If their 20% is in the menu price, I know exactly what I’m getting into when I look at the menu and there’s no reason to complain. If the service is bad, I simply don’t go back to that restaurant. If guys want gussied up little hussies, they can go back over and over again, but as for me I’ll be happy to patronize pleasant places with a touch more class. Pardon me if I’ve been a bit uncouth in this post, but to be quite honest I find Ms. Raskins’ attitude pretty offensive and simply replied in kind.

I’d like to hear Chuck Ross’s take on this.

BertWheeler #fundie freerepublic.com

The basis of atheism isn’t “great scientific knowledge” or “an understanding of evolution”... It’s hatred of being judged. The atheist hates the judge and despises the righteousness of Christianity.

And that goes for everything else too. Basically, and I mean no offense to my atheist buddies, atheism is a cop out. And, by default, atheists are quitters.

Not all, though. Many atheists are actually reprehensible criminals, caught and uncaught. Some are like the people who abduct then rape and murder teenage girls. Some are like the people who work at abortion clinics. Some are political opportunists and activists.

But, in general, atheists are empty people.

We should pity them.

Joker2 #fundie gracecentered.com

Obama's idea of fair,

A grown married woman's decision to have her baby aborted in the 9th month because she want to go to Hawaii next month and forcing me to pay for it.

Obama's idea of freedom,

I work outside in the Mississippi sun 60-70 hrs per week. I have the "freedom" to keep less than half of what I earned. If I am fortunate enough to put aside some wealth Obama does not want me to do decide to give it to my children he wants to decide who gets my savings.

Example of the two combined,

A doctor is a christian and is forced to both preform an abortion and pay for it.

Yep Obama's fair and free country

elgalloprieto #fundie youtube.com

there is no evidence for evolution. In fact, every evidence ever taken in has been fraud and proven false a long time ago. btw, if evolution is true, how do we tell right from wrong? What advancement in science do we have thanks to evolution? Does a doctor think about evolution when he preforms heart surgery? Did you know every major branch of science has been founded by Creationists??

David J. Stewart #fundie jesus-is-savior.com

To divorce one's spouse is a sin. If committing adultery is grounds for divorce, then Matthew 5:28 gives every wife Biblical grounds to divorce, because EVERY man has lusted. Jesus said that lust is equivalent to adultery. Many people are grasping for theological straws, looking for reasons to justify doing what they have already decided to do... DIVORCE! That's the same sin as Eve in the Garden of Eden. She had already decided to sin by eating the fruit, but she needed justification in her own mind. So she reasoned that the fruit was good for food, pleasant to look upon and would make her wise. Every woman does the same thing when it comes to the sin of divorce—she rationalized, looking for justification for what she has already decided to do.

We live in a selfish generation of liars and quitters. And may I say to you women who do file for divorce, you are commanded to remain single for the rest of your husband's life. 1st Corinthians 7:10-11, “And unto the married I command, yet not I, but the Lord, Let not the wife depart from her husband: But and if she depart, let her remain unmarried, or be reconciled to her husband: and let not the husband put away his wife.” Just because you're husband cheats on you doesn't give you a Biblical right to divorce, any more than it would give him a right to dump you if you cheated on him.

HolyGuardianAngels #fundie christianforums.com

The secret BIG sin that women, females and girls do too . . .

Unlike, sins that involve the touching of others . . .

it seems that masturbation is the ultimate sexual release;

alas, it is not . . .

It destroy those whom masturbate just as any other sin would . . .

You can imagine how great of sin it is; even if done in the "NAME" . . .

of Physical Health , i.e. when a Doctor requires one

to preform the act ~ in A test tube ~ petri dish or other glass apparatus . . .

I don't know the name of what it is called: when the doctor sticks his or her finger

up the male anus (supposedly) checking for the gland that is supposed to cancerous . . .

They say it is "innocent" . . .

you've heard it: It "seems" so innocent . . .

However; it is not . . .

Every swimmer must KNOW the secret, because, cold showers really can assist one in overcoming sexual "urges" . . .

* MEN can go swimming in real cold water for a mere fee at the YMCA,

not to be confused with the YWCA, where women get NO service . . .

Seek The Truth #racist realjewnews.com

I’d say the Zionist Jews and their giant rats nest in the Middle East is far more important to either the Democrats or Republicans than America.

I went to the flea market today and one of the dealers started bragging about being a U.S. military veteran.

So this guy came up and thanked her for her service. I recognized the guy as a seller of pornography.

He promotes sexual pornography in which drugged up females are forced to preform for Jews behind the cameras while she promotes violence pornography in which drugged up U.S. soldiers are forced to kill innocent Christians and Muslims for the Jews that masterminded the 911 attack.

Kati #conspiracy cainbloodline.blogspot.com

THE ROYAL BLOODLINE OF CAIN AND THE FALSE THRONE OF DAVID
CAINITES – are the Satanic offsprings of the Serpent and Eve. A race of evil beings that exist on the Earth since the dawn of time. Their Father is literally Satan [through Cain] and have from the beginning worked towards their Father’s ultimate goal which was to place a Son of the ‘Royal Dragon-lineage’ upon the Throne of the World, his so-called “Rex Mundi” [King of the World], the Antichrist.

In ancient Europe, Cainites became “masters” and bankers, imposing exorbitant taxes on the common-bloods whom they viewed as little more than cattle. They continue to grow rich through the dividing and conquering of others, while they keep the masses unaware of who and what they truly are. Whatever land they migrated into, they soon controlled. When wars they caused to divide the land for gain, failed, they created and used “religions” to oppress , every tactic of control was used and still used to this day.

Today’s European ruling “Elite” are all descended from Cain and this is precisely the reason that most Royal European “blue-blooded” lineages are kept pure to this day.

It is Cainites who are truly behind every known and covert conspiracy while blaming the evil they actually cause upon the the Jews in Israel.I need to make it clear the Jews we know today converted into Judaism in the 9th century.

As Holy Jews do after their Father in Heaven, Cainites do the will of their Father in Hell and his will is the destruction of Zion and the death of every last Holy Sethite Jew, as well as destroying all of God’s Creation.They are responsible for denying Africans their true identity as the House of Judah and the chosen ones.That has served their purpose of a quiet drawn out holocaust with man made viruses{AIDS} and Ebola.Aids has been known not to affect RH Negative bloodlines hence that is one of the signs of a man made virus.I call it the silent holocaust of the house of Judah.Man induced famine with HAARP technology and instigating wars between tribes and supplying weapons to both sides.

These Sons of Cain have even hidden under the much used term of “Zionists,” in the hopes to bring Holy Jews more hatred, attacks, and ultimately, to their own destruction. The latter, they are attempting to accomplish with the presentation of a false British-Zionist Messiah, the Antichrist.

The Antichrist will control wealth and divisions of land, graphically showing the Cainites work even now FOR the Beast system and will provide him all their amassed riches in due course. While those in third world countries are left starving, and people taken to the very brink of existence, the Cainites pave the way for their “New Age of Enlightenment” at the cost of all our lives. Think not that this upcoming war isn’t in their best interest and of their design, although the war itself is only a means to a ends. The aftermath and resulting great cataclysm that it brings about is their greater desire, a False “Armageddon,” scenario, a false “Wormwood” striking, and the very real result of a dark age, yet all to bring in their far more ancient goal, the dazzling and deceptive, New Edenic Age of Light, and the time of New Altantis and it’s King within a King will have it’s seven years.

Those of the Serpent Bloodline who are not Royals, feel naturally led to societies like FreeMasonry, Knights Templar, and other secret lodges where they attain further occult knowledge with each degree achieved, along the way becoming privy to it’s suggestive symbology, strange rites, and esoteric titles having ‘allegorical’ meanings which are nothing less than the history of Cain’s lineage taking world prominence, forming a world Order, and preparing the way for the Antichrist himself.

Higher ranking FreeMasons, Illuminati, Knights Templar, and those more privy to the ‘Great Work,’ control every facet of banking, commerce, are CEO’s of major corporations also controlling nearly every form the media to the movie industry.

By the way, Prince Charles Coat of Arms has another symbol – The Order of the Garter. The Order of the Garter is the parent organization over FreeMasonry, world-wide. When a man becomes a 33rd Degree Mason, he swears allegiance to that organization, and thereby to Prince Charles.

Remember that the House of Windsor is actually coming from as German family tree: Saxe-Coburg and Gotha (Deutschland equals to 666). In the United Kingdom, King George V changed the name from Saxe-Coburg-Gotha to the House of Windsor in 1917.

The British Crown is even telling they are sitting on the Throne of King David. They even claim they are descendants of Jesus Christ himself. THIS IS COMPLETELY FALSE! They are actually really referring to the Satanic House of David. The royalty of the Tribe of Dan (and descendants of Cain) have descended down through history as a powerful Satanic bloodline. The 13th or final blood line was copied after God’s royal lineage of Jesus.

PRINCE WILLIAM ARTHUR PHILIP LOUIS WINDSOR-WALES:
WINDSOR-WALES – (Druids) Celtic Prince = RED DRAGON / (Cainite) / Celtic Power

Prince William becomes King WILLIAM V = I AM VI VI VI or I AM 666

george00,SINCERITY.net #racist 4racism.org

Wally Wally:
(from amren: “james-watson-wont-stop-talking-about-race” story)

The trouble is that about 65% of whites and about 99% of blacks will hear what Mary-Claire King said and think that it's a good argument against what Watson said even thought it has absolutely nothing to do with what Watson said. And another thing, why would any logical white person, who wants the white race to survive, want the average black IQ to be equal to the average white I

Fact: average American black IQ is 15 pts lower than average American white IQ. However, individually, there are many blacks who are a lot smarter than whites and vice versa. Furthermore, most blacks in America have sufficient intelligence to live productive lives, no different than a broad segment of whites who have ordinary IQ levels.

Perhaps you could explain, why disparate average IQ levels between American blacks and whites is SO important to you and your race realist brethren?

george00:
What a fantastic question but do you really need to ask? I give you exhibit A: Planet Earth. Look around it. The darker the skin of the people who predominate in any country the more poverty and crime. Don't bother with the world just limit it to the United States. The darker the skin of the people who predominate in any city and the more poverty and crime. I could go on breaking things down for you but hopefully to can see the pattern.
And yes the average black has enough intelligence to live a semi-productive life but only because he is surrounded by white people and an infrastructure invented and sustained by whites. How would this average black guy be doing in Africa? Not so well. Right?
I could answer you in another way. WLP gave an excellent talk on this subject but almost all advancements have been made by whites in the genius IQ range. If whites on a large scale interbred with nonwhites this would pull the number of whites in the genius IQ range down and grind all advancements to a halt. It's complicated.

Wally Wally:

A prevalent belief amongst race realists is: “black people aren’t smart enough to exist in 1st world societies” and “have a propensity for committing crime”. Based on this belief, they feel a segregated America should be revived. A very large number of productive blacks in America unequivocally destroys that belief. Reasonable, unbiased people of all races see blacks daily participating in the American dream.

The darker the skin of the people who predominate in any city and the more poverty and crime.

I’m a black baby boomer who grew up in Washington DC on the tail end of segregation. As was true with most cities with black populations, with the advent of integration, blacks who could afford better moved out of the cities, leaving a concentration of poor blacks. Many of the blacks that moved out now live in middle class suburban black neighborhoods. Contrary to popular (race realism)belief, cities like Washington DC have many areas that are populated with middle to upper class blacks, with poor blacks living in pockets.

And black crime: the second weapon of attack used to justify a return to segregation. “Blacks have a propensity for committing crime”, like black intelligence “facts”, it’s a “fact” unsupported by scientific research.

The bulk of crime being committed by blacks is being committed by young black males involved in drug gang violence. Young black gangsters are protecting the very lucrative profits generated by the black market enterprise: DRUGS. The same phenomena existed during prohibition when young white men were committing crime and violence against each other at exorbitant rates, protecting the very lucrative profits of that other black market enterprise: ALCOHOL. Black market enterprises that generate large sums of cash tend to attract large scale violence. Lucrative cash, not genetics, is responsible for much of the crime and violence in black communities.

And yes the average black has enough intelligence to live a semi-productive life but only because he is surrounded by white people and an infrastructure invented and sustained by whites.

Semi-productive? The average black has enough intelligence to live a productive life, no different than the average white. Race realists like to push the myth of – most whites being intelligent enough to invent the marvelous technologies we enjoy – but the truth of the matter is, most whites are quite ordinary when it comes to IQ, as capable of sustaining a society as most blacks and would be lost too if forced to sustain their surroundings. You race realists live vicariously through the achievements of your more talented brethren(whose numbers are relatively small in number).

SINCERITY.net:
First I repeat, I would rather see the discussion on the top where I opened the same topic. This discussion here is buried very low, nobody will find it.
WallyWally, do you understand the scientific method? Most anti-racists keep making unproven statement and guesses. If you say what is PC you can make unproven statements or prove them with pseudoscience. Have you read Richard Lynn's books like "IQ and the wealth of Nations" who has clearly proven the statement that the darker the skin the lower the average income and gross national product of countries and regions
A few middle class blacks, who run away from their lower IQ high crime brothers to hide in white/Asian neighborhoods or the rare black middlle class region don't fix black AVERAGES of crime, school dysfuncion, and welfare.
Als WallyWally, be honest. Like Obama, and Sottomayor, you probably benefitted from a life of constant affirmative action. Even the vote for Obama was mostly BECAUSE of his skin color.
Again, I suggest we continue the conversation above on the new post that I started
By the way, read Sincerity.net

Wally Wally:
Middle class blacks are no different than middle class whites when they choose to purchase homes in middle class neighborhoods, black or white. Middle class whites don’t purchase homes in poor white Appalachian neighborhoods, they purchase homes in middle class neighborhoods. Why should our(black) purchasing strategy be different than yours(white)?

The bulk of crime in inner city neighborhoods is mainly driven by black market forces: DRUGS in particular, the same black market forces that drove white prohibition era crime. The high crime rates are certainly not a result of a 15 point difference in average IQ between blacks and whites.

Your(race realist) claim: “lower IQ is responsible for the education gap between blacks and whites”, is unproven and nonsensical given there are more plausible explanations for the gap. How much IQ horsepower is needed to sufficiently master the K – 12 education curriculum? Unless you know the answer to that question, you can’t begin to make your claim regarding IQ and the education gap. Poor parenting(single, barely of age, mothers), violence infested neighborhoods, the misguided distructive belief: “studying is ‘acting white’, are much more plausible explanations for the educational failures in inner city neighborhoods.

george00: An ordinary IQ for whites is 100. An ordinary IQ for blacks is 85. Whites are much more capable of sustaining a society than blacks. Most whites plan their lives around avoiding blacks. That's why there's white flight. The reason for white flight is pretty much illustrated by the type of conversation we are having right now. I'll say something and then you completely don't grasp the implications of what I just said. There's a reason why blacks create s---hole countries and cities and neighborhoods and schools. There's a reason why nonwhites are risking everything and doing everything to get into white countries on a massive scale. White geniuses make advances that are sustained by average whites. Blacks have demonstrated that they are incapable of sustaining even basic white standards. Look at what happens to the white colonies of Africa after the whites leave. You have nothing to base your arguments on except there are a lot of blacks who are being productive at jobs they got from whites after they rioted and burned the cities down in a massive symbolic strong armed robbery maneuver. That's your argument and it sucks.

Wally Wally: . I'll say something and then you completely don't grasp the implications of what I just said.

You make claims (e.g. – “Blacks have demonstrated that they are incapable of sustaining even basic white standards”.) for which there are glaring counter examples for refutation. It’s hard to take race realism seriously when you engage in constant hyperbolic propaganda.

george00: You keep wanting to take what blacks do when the blacks are sustained by whites. White people are employing blacks. It's a matter of frequency. The frequency of examples supporting your claims are much lower than the frequency of the examples supporting my claims. Blacks are parasites on whites. Whites would be much better off without blacks and blacks would be much worse off without whites.

Relampago Furioso #fundie returnofkings.com

(part of an article titled "What The Anti-Trump Feminist March On Washington Really Means")

Here’s what feminists are really saying when we read through the lines.

“I’m a selfish bitch.”

What does Charlize Theron have to be upset about? Being worth $110 million for playing pretend for a living just isn’t enough?

What more do Anglo women possibly want? They already spend 90% more money than they earn in the economy. They gobble up 66% of public spending from the welfare state while men pay 75% of the taxes to support this gynocentric system. Women hypocritically make up 80% of all spending decisions in the materialistic, extremely wasteful and environmentally destructive economy they later complain about as not being “green” enough.

They then hypocritically say they Don’t Need a Man™ while statistics prove them dead wrong. Without men for the government to rob women would be up the creek without a paddle.

What’s most satisfying about the Daily Mail article was reading the “Best rated” comments below the article. Nobody is buying the propaganda establishment media is crapping out anymore. User Right Auntie wrote:

I’m not quite sure what they are protesting. Women in America can drive a car, get an education, get a mortgage and purchase a home. They can be doctors, lawyers, architects, engineers. They can be ministers or atheists. They can have children without men. They can speak their minds. I’m positive that they can still do these things now that Trump is president. This just looks like a giant hissy fit because their candidate lost. Being a sore loser is never a good thing.

Indeed, what are these women protesting? They live such decadent lives they’re literally killing the goose that lays the golden egg as the future belongs to those whose children will be in it, and the men who made their exorbitant, selfish existence possible are either breeding with other ethnic groups or becoming genetic dead ends.

derius537 #fundie answers.yahoo.com

Question: What exactly is the "gay agenda"?

Answer:Based on what I see:

To destroy any church or group of believers who take the biblical stand that homosexuality is wrong.

If this country allows as normal and legal homosexual union then any church who will not "marry" them becomes subject to legal action for refusing to perform the ceremony.

I know my church has prepared a draft amendment to our by-laws. The amendment will be that no pastor will preform any wedding for any reason for any person no matter if they belong to the church or not. It further states that the church facility will not be rented or available to any one for a "wedding" for any reason even if they belong to the church.

Should Obama be elected and carry through with his threat to eliminate the defense of marriage act these changes in the by-laws will be put to the church for a vote.
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Anonymous Coward #conspiracy godlikeproductions.com

Ive been saying his about WWE for years, I'm just not good at putting together videos like you. Do you think that WWE does this stuff as a foreshadow of events to come
Everything they say and do, all the hand signs and names of groups is all evil and satanic and it almost looks like they tell you whats going to happen in the future.
If you remember in the 80's there was a tag team with Hogan & Mucho Man & they predicted (not even predicted) they told the story of how the world trade centre will burn and fall.

Before royal rumble in the ring was
NWO, Ascension & APA
NWO = New World Order
Ascension = The Rise Of
APA -Acolytes Protection Agency= Some one preforming The Ceremony

Seems like they are setting the stage for something big

I wouldn't be surprised if in one of these events "The Beast" Brock Lesnor suffers an injury as explained in the Revelations

High Priestess Maxine Dietrich #racist josministries.prophpbb.com

[A Kabbalistic group supposedly put a curse on an Ukrainian governor.]

The news article below blatantly reveals how the Jews use occult powers, curses, and such to dominate and to control. Most people are under the spells of xianity and Islam. Again, as I have written repeatedly, xianity and Islam are tools to remove spirituality and along with this, for the majority of members here who are knowledgeable in the occult and the powers of the mind and the soul, can see how the xian mass/service is a subliminal tie-in to Jewish ritual murder. This is nothing more than spiritual warfare and how they have disarmed Gentiles spiritually for centuries and have made us their host.

People who have no knowledge of the occult are plain victims, while the Jews assume a "god' position. This is why so many are so arrogant and overconfident.
I would also like to add how so many are indoctrinated into repressing their feelings. I have written about this in many articles- the topic of "hate." In Satanism, you are free to hate as you wish. Repressing hatred will not make it go away. Repressed hatred along with other emotions the Jew-run system fears will only cause major problems in the way of illness and psychological problems further on. Then, some Jew psychiatrist [most of them are Jews] will charge the victim exorbitant fees, along with prescribing psychiatric drugs for repressed emotions, and other problems come with this.

Those of us who are adepts at black magick - exacting justice, know there must be some level of hatred involved. Given there are many more Gentiles than Jews, there is strength in numbers. The Jews know this and they fear it. Massive hatred can accomplish much in the way of justice. So, the Jew-run system works to forcibly indoctrinate the populace against seeking justice and of course steering everyone away from hatred. "Jewsus loves you" and the xian love, love, love and all of its sick nauseating perversion of the love emotion works to keep the level of hatred down, so the Jews can victimize whomever they please. The love, love, love is so chock full of hypocrisy, it is sick. Then, the Wiccan movement and other related trash preaching the love concept, the "three-fold" crap and then there is the "ten-fold" and even the "hundred-fold" to instill fear, which leads to failure, and passing the buck in the way of doing nothing to stop major injustice and victimization, so the perpetrators just keep on doing what they are doing and victimize others, until everything is so out of control that civilization ceases to exist.

Idiots who follow and believe this junk also preach strongly against any justice. Christianized witchcraft- turn that cheek, walk that extra mile and turn all of your justifiable emotions in on yourself to make the Jews more money and to eventually destroy yourself from within through repression.

The enemy advanced unchecked- easily and without any obstacles when no one ever stands up to them in any way. This is what they want. Do nothing, stay hidden, and keep believing in their endless lies. When your mind and soul are truly liberated, you will see how so many are only programmed. Just programmed and nothing more.

The news article below is very blatant. This has been going on for centuries. Through slavish worship and support of xianity and its twin of Islam and other programs that indoctrinate the populace to be cripples, the Jews have their control and Gentiles pay the price in more ways than one. The Jews use ritual murder and related to manipulate events and to control and those who are unaware or lack knowledge in this area are powerless to stop it.

In the case below, the Jews cursed one of their own and they do this quite often. This example is very blatant of what they have also done to Gentiles, even countries. Given how brutally hard life has been in Russia over the centuries, and the Jewish history there, it is an obvious example and those of us who are psychically open can sense this.

BarbT #fundie rr-bb.com

(In response to a news story about a church cancelling a man's funeral service after finding out he was gay from his obituary.)

True, the pastor jumped the gun before checking things out first but in the end he did the right thing IMO.

With hundreds of mourners in attendance no doubt a few friends would have shared memories about the deceased which would have included personal relationships. The pastor would have no control over those testimonies. I believe the church would have been in danger of being used as a public soapbox to project a wholesome image of the man's relationship {marriage?} with another man as equal to the biblical norm. The word "love" would have been used endlessly to bury any scriptural objections to the lifestyle. Christians once again would be manipulated into silence, which is a major goal of the organized gay agenda.

The mother running to the media is a big red flag for me. There are many, many liberal churches that welcome & promote the homosexual lifestyle and could easily accommodate a large gathering. I'm wondering why she sought a conservative, fundamentalist church to preform the service over those. Could it be she used the same tactic as deliberately choosing a Christian bakery to make a gay cake knowing they'll refuse then crying "bigot"?

Mat Staver #fundie rightwingwatch.org

Mat Staver: Gays Are Imposing A 'Jizya' Tax On Christians In America
On a recent "Freedom's Call" radio commentary, Liberty Counsel's Mat Staver declared that gays are now imposing a "jizya" tax on Christians in America.
Staver, the anti-gay legal activist representing Kentucky clerk Kim Davis, said that gays have borrowed the concept of the jizya, a discriminatory tax imposed on non-Muslims under Islamic law, and are now subjecting Christians in America to such taxes.
"Deep in the Islamic tradition is jizya, a tax which forces non-Muslims to pay an exorbitant fee for living within a Muslim state," Staver said. "Now, from farmers in New York to those offering wedding cakes, photography and other services, all have been fined thousands, and sometimes more than a hundred thousand dollars for having and acting on a religious belief that is different from homosexuals who demand their services. These fees and fine are in essence a tax on Christians who are living out their faith and beliefs in the businesses that they labored for and have built. In America, we should not fear paying a tax or fee to Muslims, nor to homosexuals, just because our faith is different from theirs."