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Fred Phelps #fundie godhatesireland.com

Ireland has absolutely failed its duty to God. It has been wholly given over to the idea that it is okay to be a filthy fag. They have allowed their fags to establish themselves at every level of society, especially in the government. A law called "An Act to Prohibit Incitement to Hatred on Account of Sexual Orientation" has been enacted by the wicked lawmakers in Ireland to eliminate any true gospel preaching there. Jeremiah 7:28 But thou shalt say unto them, This is a nation that obeyeth not the voice of the LORD their God, nor receiveth correction: truth is perished, and is cut off from their mouth. Isn't that just exactly what Gospel preaching is supposed to do: incite people to hate sin? 2 Chronicles 19:2 Shouldest thou help the ungodly, and love them that hate the Lord? therefore is wrath upon thee from before the Lord. While only about 10% of the population of Ireland are fags or dykes, the other 90% are most assuredly their soul-condemning enablers. The old preachers used to say fag-enablers are worse than fags because fag-enablers support the filthy beasts calling themselves gay, and they don't even have the excuse of being prisoner to a vile lust. Romans 1:32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them. Ireland is a land of vile, feces-eaters and anus lickers and those who have pleasure in them - all of whom are abominations to God and headed for Hell. Deal with it!

Killer Hawk #fundie arguewitheveryone.com

Most of us Christians do not condone Fred Phelps's pickets at soldiers funerals and other human deaths that got nothing to do with those filthy faggots.Here WBC gone too far,we agree.But mostly what Fred Phelps does as picketing funerals of dead faggots like this pervert Matthew Shepard,picketing at GLBT related events and casting truth that homosexuality is a ticket to Hell makes Fred Phelps and his led WBC as true heroes of our times.
GOD HATES FAGS AND FAG ENABLERS!
FAGS ARE WORTHY OF DEATH!

Westboro Baptist Church #fundie jewskilledjesus.com

Jews have a very long history of being either fags or fag enablers

The Jews have a long rich history of being fags and fag enablers (theses are the only two choices amongst the naughty figs today). The events of Judges 19, 20 and 21 are startling. A Levite had a concubine; the men of Benjamin wanted to rape him; they settled for sodomizing the concubine to death. This set in motion a bloody civil war between the tribe of Benjamin and the other 11 tribes that resulted in the near annihilation of the tribe of Benjamin! The mercies of the Lord are the only thing that kept them from being utterly destroyed. They kicked off a savage devastating war for the great cause of … wait for it … anal copulation!

When one of the rare good kings, King Josiah, set about to get rid of the idolatrous filth of the Jews, he had to do this: And he brake down the houses of the sodomites, that were by the house of the LORD, where the women wove hangings for the grove, 2 Kings 23:7.

The Torah is clear about fags:
Leviticus 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.
Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

“What!” the rabid Jew splutters, “You are saying gay people should get the death penalty!” Yes, rebellious raging reprobate Jew; that’s the standard of God and that’s the standard of your Torah; and you have a theocracy in Israel which is justified only if you are following the good statutes given you by God. (And they’re not gay; they’re contentious cruel filthy miserable smelly rotten brutes – like you! Did I mention fags are Jews and Jews are fags? Read Romans 1 and see if you don’t notice your reflection in that mirror, contrary naughty fig Jews!) Take your squally quarrel up with God; that’s his standard! Yet knowing that is God’s standard because that was part of the oracles delivered to you, you aggressively pursue all things fag, the loudest voice on this earth today for the fags! With a great multiplication of disingenuous slippery deceitful words you Jews have spent way more of your years since your existence supporting and engaging in sodomy, than not. Yet these words from God’s law are too plain and the lying whore rabbis simply can’t wash them away.

Today Israel is engaged in a campaign to try to turn the world against Iran – and really anyone else who they perceive won’t let them have their disobedient way in all things. Part of this campaign is to target fags so they can get them on their side with their loud violent protesting voice. They play it like this: You poor fags have been mistreated; so you should come and help us violently oppose anyone who won’t bow down and kiss our backside. The fags lap it up. Jews are fags; fags are Jews! Check out this quote from a story at www.haaretz.com:

The new campaign, to be overseen by the Foreign Ministry, aims to appeal to people who are less concerned with Iran's nuclear aspirations and more fearful of its human rights abuses and mistreatment of minorities, including the gay and lesbian community.

The campaign plans to recruit the international gay community, which Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad dismissed in 2007 when he said there were no homosexuals living in his country.

The campaign will also reach out to Jewish groups who want to bring more attention to Ahmadinejad's Holocaust denial and some members of the Iranian regime's anti-Semitic and anti-Zionist views. (http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1079589.html.)

Isn’t that just precious? GAG! Fags are Jews; Jews are fags. It’s as if they had never cracked the book of Ezekiel, let alone read the words of Ezekiel 16. Ezekiel the Jew was preaching these words to you hard-hearted bastards in captivity. Hello; God was punishing you disobedient Jews! One of the reasons you Jews have gotten yourselves in so much trouble with God is because you refuse to talk about Sodom – take the lesson of Sodom; remember what Sodom did; and don’t do what Sodom and the other heathen nations did! You were supposed to cast out their idols; root them out; get rid of them. Instead you turned them into your gods, enraging the Lord your God; and following directly on the heels of that you pursued your filthy manner of life, and became big fat sodomites!

Westboro Baptist Church #fundie godhatesamerica.com

WBC to Preach at Funerals of Virginia Tech Dead

WBC will preach at the funerals of the Virginia Tech students killed on campus during a shooting rampage April 16, 2007. You describe this as monumental horror, but you know nothing of horror -- yet.

[Bible quote]

WBC to preach to the whole world, via the BBC, and UK Channel 4

Soon the whole world will have heard of Westboro Baptist Church and the unwavering message of Her little flock of slaughter. We have preached for nearly 16 years now on the mean streets of America, seeking doors of utterance to cross international boundaries so we might preach the doom of idolatrous Europe, Asia, and the Middle East. Now, God Almighty, in His due time, has opened just such a door. You will have no excuse once the BBC and Channel 4 release their pieces on the WBC. No matter what perverted light they display us in, you will receive the message. God Hates Fags. God Hates You. The World is Doomed. This very well may be the last warning this doomed mass of mankind will receive before Christ returns in fire and glory to punish you. Whether you will hear it, or whether you will forbear, it is of no consequence to us. You have been warned.

Skyfloating #conspiracy abovetopsecret.com

Is Westboro Baptist Chruch a Mind Control Psy-Op?

After watching the 8-part series The most hated family in America I am wondering whether "Westboro Baptist Church" under the Phelps family is a covert psy-op or a secret mind-control / MKUltra cult. We know that there have been mind control experiments with other religious cults, most notoriously Jim Jones mass-suicide cult or, more recently, Heavens Gate. In the video series itself there are various hints that something is amiss. Here are a few:

* In one of the videos Fred Phelps claims that his church is "the ONLY church that teaches Gods word". Similar is claimed in a later video buy one of the members. This blanket insult at millions of other Christian churches should give you a hint that these people are either mentally ill or under some remote influence. I mean, we know that many ultra-fundamentalist Christians think that Christianity is the only true Religion, but to think that ones church is the only true church is more than just a little extreme.

* All phelps family members seem to have a lot of money, including those who are no longer members of the Church.This is odd since ultras and extremists normally dont have that much money. On the fringe of society nobody wants to give you money. It looked as if every family member sports their own SUV.

* The media are lashing on to these far-out-fringe loons as if they were representative of anything. In the movie its Louis Thereoux, but also other notables such as Michael Moore take "Westboro Baptist Church" as representative of what Religion is all about. Clearly walking around with Pickets saying "God Hates Fags" and "Fags eat Poop" is not what Religion is about. So what is the medias agenda with zooming in on these utter loons as if they were what the majority of religious people are like? If this is a Psy-Op then the goal here would be to increase the divide between the two already extremely conflicted ideological groups (left-wing/right-wing) in America.

* While it is true that there are parts of the Bible that forbid a Christian from having homosexual relationships, emphasizing and exaggerating this particular aspect of the Bible is a sign of either - again - mental illness, or some kind of unsound agenda. Most Christians I know would hold pickets saying "Jesus Loves You", not "God Hates Fags". In fact, quite a number of Christians are tolerant of Homosexuality. But their voices dont get heard in the media. In fact, the Westboro Baptist Church looks more like it was dreamed up as a caricature of an atheists biggest nightmare than anything resembling the normal decency and respect we know from Christians.

Of course I have no evidence that WBC is a secret psy-operation by some agency or rogue agency. Im only seeing the ripples of a stone cast long ago. Im only wondering who cast the stone. Im wondering if we, working together, can research and find evidence for strange ongoings in Westboro. Because there are a number of things seriously wrong with this case. How does a church get this insane? And why do all kinds of well-known journalists zoom in on it as if it represents anything? Its because of the medias cameras that these loons became known in the first place. Without the media they would be nothing. This is indeed how the mass-media manufactures controversy. Its so easy. You just point your camera at the most deranged idiot around and make it into something big.

I will be looking around for any further evidence that might point to what the thread title says and post it here as I find it.

Westboro Baptist Church #fundie godhatesfags.com

WBC will picket the godless and murderous Chinese at their office in San Francisco

In religious protest and warning; to wit: "be not deceived; God is not mocked." Gal6:7 God hates fags and murderers. Ergo, God hates the Chinese government and people, for killing thousands of Christian missionaries and their families - whose blood cries for vengeance.

THANK GOD FOR EARTQUAKES
THANK GOD FOR DEAD CHINESE

TheWhiteProphet #fundie imdb.com

I just saw this film and holy crap did it suck. Christian bale gives his worst performance ever as the ultra-boring batman, and Heath Ledger thinks he's still his old limp wristed Brokeback Mountain character that mocks the laws of God and Jesus Christ, our savior. This movie begins with crime and ends with crime, and Jesus Christ weeps for our sins the entire time. If you want to see a good film, watch The Passion of the Christ instead.

Westboro Baptist Church #fundie godhatescanada.com

Fags have a 3 point agenda: 1) decriminalize sodomy, 2) add fags to the protected classes as victims like blacks, and 3) criminalize Gospel preaching against fags. Canada's doom is now irreversible!
On April 28, 2004, Canada hoisted a filthy fag finger in the Face of God by passing a law making any criticism of homosexuals a crime punishable by fines and imprisonment. The churches and preachers of Canada tried massive last-minute lobbying and protests on Parliament Hill to defeat the bill -- too little, too late!
For years, WBC has warned that Canada is a homo-fascist state where the filthy fag agenda has become the law of the land. WBC members have been arrested at Ottawa's International Airport upon entering Canada to picket Parliament and burn the Canadian flag. In Albert, WBC members were ordered by the Royal Canadian Mounted Police not to carry "God Hates Fags" signs on pain of arrest and prosecution. When WBC members did in fact actually burn the Canadian flag in religious protest to Canada's approval of same-sex marriage, the so-called Christians of Canada were the loudest in denouncing WBC and "widely reviling" her Gospel message.
There is no hope for Canada. God hates Canada!

Alfred T. Overstreet #fundie gospeltruth.net

(Note: This is in the middle of his lecture where he teaches that Original Sin is unbiblical and than drops this gem)

Homosexuals Are Not Born Homosexuals

Homosexuals often cover and excuse their evil acts of perversion by saying they were born homosexuals. And if the teaching is true that men are born with a sinful nature, homosexuals are right to say they were born homosexuals. For they were born homosexuals if they were born sinners. Also they are right to excuse their evil acts of perversion. For if they were born sinners, they were born homosexuals; and if they were born homosexuals they can no more be blamed for their evil acts of perversion than the brute beasts can be blamed for being born brute beasts. Likewise the alcoholic cannot be blamed for his drinking if it is true he was born with the "disease of alcoholism." In fact the murderer, the rapist, and all other sinners have a perfect and legitimate excuse for all their sins if they were born with a sinful nature. But God never excuses the murderer or the drunkard or the rapist or the homosexual or any other sinner for his sins. For God created all men with a good nature, and for men to sin they must go against their nature: they must sin against nature. All sin is a corruption of man's nature, it is a perversion of man's nature. It is rebellion against our nature--it is rebellion against the "law of God written in our hearts" and against the God who has written his law in our hearts. No man is born a sinner. No man is born with the "disease of alcoholism." No man is born a homosexual:

"Even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature." Romans 1:26
"Also the men leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lusts one toward another." Romans 1:27

"Neither shalt thou lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination. Neither shalt thou lie with any beast to defile thyself therewith: neither shall any woman stand before a beast to lie down thereto: it is confusion." Leviticus 19:22-23

"God hath made man upright; but they have sought out many inventions." Ecclesiastes 7:29

ExaltGod's Stamps #fundie exaltgodstamps.tumblr.com

The Bible Approves of Bestiality
…according to the logic of so-called “gay Christians.” You see, every argument that these people use to try and show that the Bible approves of homosexuality can be used in exactly the same way to support bestiality. Don’t believe me? Here’s a few examples:
The Levitical law condemns homosexuality, but that was for ancient Israel, not us today.
The Levitical law condemns bestiality, but that was for ancient Israel, not us today.
In the New Testament, we aren’t under the law anymore, so homosexuality is allowed.
In the New Testament, we aren’t under the law anymore, so bestiality is allowed.
Jesus said “judge not”, so you can’t judge people by calling homosexuality a sin.
Jesus said “judge not”, so you can’t judge people by calling bestiality a sin.
If homosexuality is a sin, why does homosexuality exist?
If bestiality is a sin, why does bestiality exist?
Jesus never explicitly condemned homosexuality, so it’s not wrong.
Jesus never explicitly condemned bestiality, so it’s not wrong.
The word “homosexual” isn’t even in the King James Bible, so it can’t possibly condemn it.
The word “bestiality” isn’t even in the King James Bible, so it can’t possibly condemn it.
God only made Adam and Eve in the beginning because they needed to have children and start the human race. Now that we have billions of people on earth, homosexuality is allowed.
God only made Adam and Eve in the beginning because they needed to have children and start the human race. Now that we have billions of people on earth, bestiality is allowed.
And on, and on, and on, ad nauseam.
Now, if you’re starting to get alarmed, don’t worry. The Bible absolutely 100% condemns bestiality as a horrible sin, just as it condemns homosexuality. Read more about that here. (note: that doesn’t mean Christians should hate homosexuals. Or, you know.. people who like animals)
So next time a “gay Christian” tries to convince you that the Bible doesn’t really say homosexuality is a sin, ask them to explain to you exactly how their argument works for homosexuality, but not bestiality. Have fun.
Leviticus 18:22-23–“Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination. Neither shalt thou lie with any beast to defile thyself therewith: neither shall any woman stand before a beast to lie down thereto: it is confusion.”
Disclaimer (because some people need extra special clarification): I’m not saying homosexuality and bestiality are the same thing. They’re not. I am saying they’re both sins.

ScaliaAlito #fundie answers.yahoo.com

Hi! You allege Leviticus 18:10,17 countenances polygamy and pedophilia. You then use that as the backdrop for arguing that ministers who preach against homosexuality from Leviticus 18 are inconsistent and, hence, wrong about homosexuality.

Your argument is flawed because you're attempting to refute a claim by attacking the consistency of some ministers. A claim or argument is independent of its proponents' consistency or lack thereof. When you attack the person, his/her argument is left alone and, consequently, unaddressed. This is known as the ad-hominem fallacy. In short, your argument is completely irrelevant to whether the Bible teaches against homosexuality.

Leviticus 18:22 clearly teaches against homosexual acts and that message is plain REGARDLESS what the other verses teach.

That being said, the verses you cite DO NOT teach what you allege:

Lev. 18:10: The nakedness of thy son's daughter, or of thy daughter's daughter, even their nakedness thou shalt not uncover: for theirs is thine own nakedness.

This is a proscription of intrafamilial intercourse. As such, there is NO implication or explication for pedophilia. You assert an implication unwarranted by the text. It is unwarranted because we are not told how old these "grandchildren" are. One cannot legitimately read into the text what it does not say. Let's say you're a single grandparent. The BIble prohibits you from marrying your grandchild, but it doesn't prohibit you from marrying in general; and, mind you, anybody else you DO marry will be somebody's grandchild, regardless his age.

Lev. 18:17: Thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of a woman and her daughter, neither shalt thou take her son's daughter, or her daughter's daughter, to uncover her nakedness; for they are her near kinswomen: it is wickedness.

Again, we're not told the age of these sons and daughters, so it is incorrect to assume they are seven or eight years old. The Hebrew words used here are used elsewhere in the Bible to include *adult* children as well as prepubescent ones. This DOES NOT say God likes polygamy nor does it say He countenances it. You're again turning a proscription into an endorsement which is to read into the text what it does not say.

The "fundamentalist" teaching on homosexuality is far more comprehensive than you indicate in your question. They use many verses from the Old & New Testaments and the laws of nature when teaching on that subject.

Feel free to email me if you'd like to discuss this further.

Best wishes,
Scalia

**Edit**

Since you clarified what answer you're looking for, I shall add to this post what I've sent you via email...

As I stated, our doctrine is based upon Scriptural teaching and the Natural Law (since God is the Author of nature). God designed human beings with the ability to reproduce only after physical maturity. Since sex is designed primarily for procreation (see Genesis 1 & 2), you cannot procreate with children. The Natural Law forbids sexual relations with children and God's word ONLY countenances heterosexual marriage between one man and one woman.

Gen. 2:24. Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.

Mt.19:4-5...4. And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,
5. And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?

Notice, marriage is between one man and one woman. The only sexual relationship countenanced in the Bible is the marital one:

Heb. 13:4. Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge.

You are incorrect to say God allows pedophilia. I've offered you a rational argument. If you disagree, please give me a rational reason why.

With respect to a *specific* Scriptural reference against pedophilia, none is needed. The Bible clearly teaches what marriage is and that any sexual relationship outside of marriage is sin. No specific verse is needed in this case.

There are many things the Bible teaches against without specifically naming the practice. For example, Christ taught that any man looking upon a woman with lust has committed adultery in his heart. This is sufficient to teach against pornography and similar forms of "entertainment." There were many forms of sexual entertainment in the Roman Empire, but very few of them, if any, are mentioned in the Bible. This verse, along with similar ones, is more than sufficient to proscribe that behavior.

RedDog #fundie freedominion.com

[Poster's reaction to death of Heath Ledger]Free


My first thought yesterday was... AIDS?

I mean, when did Robert Mitchum, Charles Bronson or Chuck Norris ever do a homosex role - now commonplace in any children's cartoon?

I suspect once you venture down that avenue you already have a foot on the garden path. You're really telling people you do, and it can only lead to early death by AIDS, drugs or gun in the mouth.

MROD #fundie rr-bb.com

Ok... Hollywood is SOOO FAKE!
This year I will guarantee that on Feb 22nd the movies that win will be only about GAYS... That movie called "Milk" will take home top honors and I do predict that Heath Ledger will win as well.
Hollywood is going to try to send a message, AGAIN... but instead of it being anti-war, pro-environment, its going to be about GAYS!

XDISCIPLE #conspiracy xdisciple.wordpress.com

[This guy seems to believe that Katy Perry and Zooey Deschanel are the same person, who is also porn star Ellie Idol, and it's a big conspiracy or something. Also, Heath Ledger and Joseph Gordon-Levitt, apparently...)

The first observation we should make is that the actor who plays Katy Perry also plays Zooey Deschanel. Apart from the obvious resemblance, their connection is revealed through both Gordon Joseph-Levitt (who dated Zooey Deschanel) and Russel Brand (who first hooked up with Katy Perry and then with Zooey). Both Gordon Joseph-Levitt and Russel Brand are fake personas. Zooey is most likely an earlier role for this actor, with the pertinent episodes of her life and film career shot earlier than would appear to us, because of other obvious differences related to the fireworks mentioned above. I think it is more shocking that this actor’s handlers would think that bust size alone would preclude us from making the connection that they are the same person… how shallow do they think we are? I mean, haven’t they seen Your Highness (2011)? Zooey’s performance in her more recent movies (like My Idiot Brother) is rather muted and almost seems like there is something not right with her…

So, working backwards, we can trace Katy Perry back to Zooey Deschanel. That’s not so bad, it’s not a crime for an actor to play multiple roles, unless the intention is subvert our liberties or affect our minds in a negative fashion.

But like the Angelina Jolie and Lady Gaga characters, we should be aware of the negative aspects of the entertainment industry to which this actor has been exposed, and to which I have alluded to and sifted through in earlier posts like parts 1-5 of Hollywood is Just a big Escort Service for the Elite.

Zooey Deschanel used to play the role of Ellie Idol.


[And from the comments section: "People have been saying Cobain is Rivers Cuomo for years. Lots of info out there about that, looks on to me. I think DGB said Kurt played Sid Vicious too, not sure if I see that. Kurt was usually the shortest guy in pics, and Syd the tallest. Did watch some video of Syd, and it's obviously a big act."]

Fundie of the year results 2019 #announcement

The votes for fundie of the year are in! Here are some of the folks who made this show impossible:

Religious Fundie: Lady Checkmate (11/17)

She’s no longer a public figure, but she will always live on in our hearts and memories for her for her extreme censorship, troll paranoia and homophobia.

Go forth and conquer, fellow sockpuppets of Peewee.

Wingnut: Rabbis For Hitler (8/17), Monarchieliga (8⁄17)

This one was a draw between these two.

I’ll just let the phrase “Rabbis for Hitler” stand on its own. I have nothing to add to it.

As for the monarchist movement? I’ll just link to the anti-reactionary FAQ if you want to see it debunked. Or, if you prefer, I’ll just declare myself king and order the monarchy to be torn down, like the end of Magic Knight Rayearth. That show managed to be though-provoking and fun at the same time in a way that TV rarely manages.

Moonbat: EmmaRoseheart (7/17)

Alternatively, she could earn the “Hitler Ate Sugar” award for concluding that verisimilitude, being a root characteristic of fascism, is therefore fascist. A classic “there is no world outside of literary criticism” moonbat.

CT: Jacob Wohl (6/17), Deep State Exposed (6⁄17)

Two anti-feminist houses, both alike in insanity, come to another draw. Wohl pulls a bizarre concept where teh femenists somehow hate locked briefcases for their manliness, while Deep State Exposed takes “transvestigation” to it’s illogical conclusion and decides that the First Ladies of the United States were all trans.

Racist: Cuyen (9/17)

But incels are just a support group. Nothing problematic at all about sex tourism, and using your white privilege and money to extort sex. No, sirree, bob, nothing but a support group.

Ableist: Judith Newman (11/17)

You know how most bigots lighten up when it gets between them and their family, and you sometimes make fun of them for being hypocrites? I’d rather Judith Newman was a hypocrite.

Grifter: Sandra Porta (8/17)

wut

Mary Sue: Caamib (7/16)

Nobody takes you seriously, caamib. That’s probably a bad thing, considering the chance that you might shoot up a school or something, but your beliefs are so far outside of the norm that other self-identified incels aren’t sexist enough for you. In spite of others’ doxxing you and digging up newspaper articles about you, there’s a part of me that refuses to believe that you’re for real.

Funniest Quote: DJS (Pillowfucker) (10/17)

I voted for the “seven elements of a crime” one, but the masturbation guru one is pretty funny, too. Davey also comes across as not-for-real, but at least he has the excuse that he was born into Christianity, rather than coming to it on his own like an incel must have.

Nightmare Fuel: Rev. Ronald E. Williams and Patti Williams (9/17)

This is actually a third-party article based on a boarding school that has been in FSTDT’s Top 100 for over a decade. And it thoroughly deserves being reposted. This isn’t just evil, it’s kind of dumb, proving that anyone who does it is so twisted that they not only don’t act charitably towards infants, they don’t even act in their own best interests any more. Seriously, what the hell is wrong with you, Mr. and Mrs. Williams?! And why aren’t you in jail?

Magnetic Crank: Sherry Shriner (8/18), Victor Justice (8⁄18)

One more draw. Sherry Shiner combines “New Age” quackery with Christianity, both, by name. She seems to think that the New Ages are right about everything, while simultaneously thinking they’re in league with the Devil. The post is borderline keyword-stuffing with its talk of DNA strands, androgyny, lizards, and gold.

Victor Justice, at least, seems to at least follow recognizable tropes of wingnuttery, and everything seems to follow from there. He just wants to discredit the environmentalists, and will do anything else necessary to pull it off.

Board: Daily Stormer (9/16)

Andrew Anglin desperately wants to be The Joker. Maybe he can follow Heath Ledger’s example?

Movement: QAnon (8/17)

A warmed-over version of old Satanism hate, combined with political conspiracy theories, and turned into a dumb meme. Truly, it is representative of the pinnacle of the decade.

Submitter: Bastethotep (9/17)

My friend, and fellow moderator. You have been around here longer than I have, and every sign shows no sign of stopping any time soon. You are truly a constant in this ever-changing world. Thanks.

Comment: Skidie(1) (6/17)

Dang, you can be harsh. But what’s better, unlike several commenters and most fundie OPs, you’re also completely fair. I just hope your optimistic view of the future really does come to pass.

David J. Stewart #fundie jesus-is-savior.com

My doctor is threatening me now. He has twice so far refused to be my doctor anymore unless I subject myself to other medical treatments, which I have already undergone, which were worthless, and didn't help me at all. It's a big racket! Now they want me to subject myself to physical therapy AGAIN. I suffered through 5 months of that torture and nonsense. They gave me an electric battery-powered box that buzzes on my neck, as a pain alternative. I THREW IT INTO MY GARBAGE PAIL WHERE IT BELONGS! I paid $100 for that crap! That is the insanity of doctors today! Kindly, they surely do earn the derogatory title of QUACKS! Another doctor sent me to a chiropractor, who handed me a donut-shaped magnet to hang around my neck, to help alleviate my pain. THAT WENT INTO MY GARBAGE PAIL TOO, WHERE IT BELONGS! Magnets don't alleviate chronic pain! You're an idiot if you think it does, as much as the idiot doctor who insults you by handing it to you in the first place. Folks, nothing helps alleviate pain like good ole pain medications, which is why GOD GAVE US OPIUM! Is that so hard to figure out? The people dying from opioids are ABUSING DRUGS AND ALCOHOL! That is how actor Heath Ledger died in 2008, from illegally taking a cocktail of prescription drugs that he had no business taking!

Anyway, it's difficult just to get by from day-to-day. It all comes from my neck. I am sick of all this crap from the doctors. I will get street drugs if they cut my medications. I'll move wherever I need too to obtain them. As I type, the toothache-like pain in my neck is terrible and there's nothing I can do. The pain radiates into my facial area. The dull, aching, pain behind my eyes is awful. The entire facial area is sore. In 2011, I was taking 160 mg per day of prescription Oxycontin for chronic pain, and no one complained at all!!! Now in 2019, they've got me down to 80 mg per day and they're still complaining. I don't know how much more of this I can take!

People just don't understand. I try to force myself to go places and do things, but it is difficult. I feel overwhelmed. I look fine outwardly, but inwardly I am physically hurting horribly. My wife cruelly abandoned and divorced me 13 years ago, and I seriously doubt if I'll ever have a girlfriend or be married again, because I cannot find a wife anywhere. I have looked high and low, but there is no one. And of course, she would have to be someone that can get along with me, not a sassy brat with a big mouth, who thinks she knows it all, like my x-wife. Proverbs 31:10-12, “Who can find a virtuous woman? for her price is far above rubies. The heart of her husband doth safely trust in her, so that he shall have no need of spoil. She will do him good and not evil all the days of her life. I once found such a woman, at Hyles-Anderson College, but she married another man, and it haunts me to this day. She was voted Miss Highlander, but I foolishly didn't reach out to her. The curse of my life has been my fear of simply telling others how I feel. If you understand that, you'll then understand why I have such a big mouth in cyberspace, I am tired of being silent. I have something to say now! I have never been blessed with a Proverbs 31 wife. Most women today are a Genesis 3 woman, destroying her own family.

Westboro Baptist Church #fundie godhatesfags.com

WBC TO PICKET SARA EVANS & BLAKE SHELTON
AT KICKER COUNTRY STAMPEDE, MANHATTAN, KS ON SATURDAY, JUNE 27 FROM 6:45 – 7:30 PM

Sara Evans is a Proverbs 7 woman (READ IT), with modest talent. She stands in the shoes of the proud, rebellious entertainment industry. She divorced her husband in a very public, nasty scene, and then married another man who was divorced from HIS wife. If that was not bad enough, these two proud perverts dragged their babes into the mess, passing them through the fire, teaching them that God is a liar and that Christ’s plain words mean NOTHING! The seven collective babes (really babes who know NOTHING about God and never will at the hands of their hateful parents) were required to give their parents away.

So it is no surprise that this woman is sharing the program with our next picket target, Blake Shelton. This prating Oklahoma pervert has also dealt treacherously with his wife, and shamefully divorced her so he could sniff after and commit adultery with a simple slut that required said divorce, like as if that divorce cleaned up that stinky mess!! Listen up you country-singing perverts, the Lord Jesus Christ said:
“Whosoever putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery: and whosoever
marrieth her that is put away from her husband committeth adultery.” Luke 16:18.

Upon a certain season, Westboro Baptist Church advised Mr. Blake Shelton of these never changing doctrines and commandments of the Lord his God, and Mr. Shelton publically expressed his despite for God’s commandments. Watch that shameful display here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfHY4tLf2Mk.

After you take that in, you can be refreshed with these beautiful parodies by WBC, turning Blake Shelton’s sloppy agape notions into excellent songs that glorify God.
“Boys Round Here”:
https://db.tt/q0hbMnr7
Also, don’t miss this beauty, taking “My Eyes” and VOILA... “Your Eyes...These Signs”
http://bit.ly/1q5JK9S.

One final note for your entertainment industry friends, of EVERY genre:
You have NOTHING except what God Almighty loaned you! You have a DUTY to use it all to serve and glorify God. You should make it your life goal to be a living example of holiness to God! On YOUR watch, this nation has bowed down to the fags, and same-sex marriage is the order of the day! The Lord is coming, WOE, WOE, WOE to you, one and all!!

fred phelps #fundie godhatessweden.com

Fags have a 3 point agenda: 1) decriminalize sodomy, 2) add fags to the protected classes as victims like blacks, and 3) criminalize Gospel preaching against fags. Sweden's doom is now irreversible!

With the arrest of Ake Green, Swedes have allowed the filthy sodomite agenda to be completely fulfilled. See our monument to Pastor Green here. Just because Green's conviction has been overturned, don't think that makes things right! The fact that the vast majority of the Swedish population either sat by silently while this rape of justice took place, or actually applauded it, solidifies the idea that Sweden is a land of the damned.

Just because Green preaches the doctrine of devils that "God loves everyone" doesn't make it right for Sweden to arrest him for also preaching that fags are an abomination (Lev. 18:22).

With this act, as well as the vitriolic response given to this preaching, Sweden has drawn to it the wrath and mocking of God!

Allen Parr #fundie allenparr.com

Recently I’ve had multiple conversations with people about how to apply the Old Testament today. At times it seems like we pick and choose which parts, and which laws we should still observe. Some will interpret the Old Testament literally while others will write it off and say, “that’s in the Old Testament so that doesn’t apply to us today.” The Old Testament is more than 3 times as long as the New Testament and there is a reason God left it in the Bible and Jesus Himself put His stamp of approval on it. So how exactly does the OT apply to the NT Christian? How can we see the practical benefit from studying it? How do we interpret it correctly? This article will seek to provide 3 questions you should ask yourself that will serve as what I believe are the best principles for how we should approach the OT to extract the most value out of it. As an aside I STRONGLY encourage you to read through and study the book of Hebrews. It will clear much of this confusion up in no time.

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PRINCIPLE #2 – IS THIS PART OF THE CEREMONIAL OR MORAL LAW?
Okay that’s a bunch of theological jargon so let me explain the difference between the two. When Moses communicated God’s laws to His people there were both ceremonial laws and moral laws. We must understand that the covenant God made in the OT was with the Jews, not the Gentiles. So the laws then don’t and never did apply to us today. Think of it like a state law. They were in Florida. We are in Texas. Are we obligated to obey specific laws that are unique to Florida? No. Not unless the laws are common to both states. The OT law was written for several reasons.

To reveal the utter sinfulness of mankind and our desperate need for a Savior – Rom. 7:7-9; Gal. 3:24

To set Israel apart from other nations

To train them in the ways of holiness having come out of Egyptian slavery.

To provide a “type” or “foreshadowing” of Jesus – Col. 2:16-17; Heb. 10:1 – In other words, they were symbolic of what Jesus Christ would one day come to the earth to do.

Several NT scriptures indicate that we are no longer under these laws but instead, we exist under a New Covenant (Rom. 10:4; Gal. 3:24-26; Eph. 2:15; Heb. 8:10-13). Below are some examples of ceremonial OT laws no longer valid today.

Dietary Restrictions – Jesus said,
It’s not what goes into your mouth that defiles you; you are defiled by the words that come out of your mouth.

Animal Sacrifices – Hebrews 10 teaches us that there is no longer a need for animal sacrifices because Jesus made the ultimate sacrifice.

Uncleanness – There were a list of things that made an Israelite “unclean” (leprosy, blood, male discharge, mildew, etc.). In other words, if they had these conditions they were to be set apart from others until they offered a sacrifice and got cleansed again. One such question that comes up frequently is, “is it prohibited for a husband and wife to have sexual intercourse during a woman’s menstrual cycle?” Once again this was part of the ceremonial law which we are not under. The NT also sheds light on this when it says a husband and wife should not deprive one another except by mutual consent for a season. In other words, each couple may choose not to for whatever reason but it is not a sin to do so (see also Heb. 13:4).

Circumcision – Paul explains that physical circumcision is of no value if your heart is not first circumcised (Rom. 2:25-29). In other words, the hardness of your heart must be removed.

Sabbath Day – This is the only one of the Ten Commandments that is not explicitly repeated in the NT. On the contrary it teaches that we should treat every day the same (Col. 2:16-17; Rom. 15:4). In other words, like many things under grace, it is a matter of personal choice and conviction.

As you can see the OT ceremonial laws are discussed in the NT and it is clear that we are not under any obligation to fulfill them. However, the moral laws of the OT are still binding because they are either repeated, further explained (Matt. 5-7) or fall under the “love your neighbor as yourself” or “love God with all your heart” commandments.

Westboro Baptist Church #fundie godhatessweden.com

In 2002 Sweden made it legal for fags to adopt children. How much more unnatural can you get than being a fag? When you can’t follow a simple commandment (Leviticus 18:22 - Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination) you will never be able to raise a child in the nurture and admonition of the Lord.

Ephesians 6:4 And, ye fathers, provoke not your children to wrath: but bring them up in the nurture and admonition of the Lord.

Fags are never happy unless they’re pushing their filth down everyone’s throat. Here is just another example of how fags will stop at nothing to make everyone accept their disobedience to their God. Two publishing companies, Vilda and Olika, are publishing children’s books with the theme that having same-sex parents is a “natural” way of life. WTF? There is NOTHING natural about being a fag! Listen up Sweden, those children are an inheritance from God and this is what you teach them? Not a good idea!

Fred Phelps #fundie casperstartribune.net

In response to Casper's new historical monument plaza, an anti-gay pastor in Kansas has renewed his request to have his own monument in town.

In a letter to the Casper City Council on Monday, the Rev. Fred Phelps of the Westboro Baptist Church restated his intentions to build a monument in Casper, the home of slain gay University of Wyoming student Matthew Shepard.

Phelps protested Shepard's 1998 funeral and members of his family protested in Casper in 2003 after the council declined them permission to install a monument on city property...

On Monday morning, the city dedicated a historical monument plaza, which includes the Ten Commandments, the Declaration of Independence, the Mayflower Compact, the Magna Carta, the Preamble to the U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

Phelps said he would be willing to make his monument resemble the six others and would include a picture of Shepard and the engraving: "MATTHEW SHEPARD, Entered Hell October 12, 1998, at age 21, in Defiance of God's Warning: 'Thou shalt not lie with mankind as with womankind; it is abomination.' Leviticus 18:22."


ExaltGod #fundie exaltgod.deviantart.com

If alcoholism is a sin, why did God create alcoholics?

NOTE: I do not support the murder, torture, enslavement, etc of homosexuals.
Christians are supposed to hate sin, not people.
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You've heard it once, you've heard it a million times: If homosexuality is a sin, why did God create homosexuals?
But this question is built on the false assumption that God creates people and gives them homosexual desires from birth.
Obviously God doesn't do that. In fact, God tells us how He created people, and it isn't homosexual or heterosexual.

Matthew 19:4-5
"And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,
And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?"

So God made you either male or female. He didn't make you homosexual.

Now, moving right along.
Let's pretend for one second that people are actually born with sinful homosexual desires.
Let's imagine that in a parallel universe homosexuality is actually genetic, and we found a "gay gene", and sodomites really are "born that way".

Would that make homosexuality 100% A-OK?
Let me answer that question with another question.
Does the fact that there's a lot of evidence showing a genetic link to alcoholism make alcoholism 100% A-OK?

Well?
The answer to that question would be a resounding "NO!!!"

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Now that we've looked at this issue from a secularish point of view, let's see what God's word has to say about it.


Clear, unavoidable verses that show that alcoholism/getting-drunk is a sin:

Ephesians 5:18
"And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess;
but be filled with the Spirit;"

Proverbs 20:1
"Wine is a mocker, strong drink is raging:
and whosoever is deceived thereby is not wise."

Proverbs 23:29-35
"Who hath woe? who hath sorrow? who hath contentions? who hath babbling?
who hath wounds without cause? who hath redness of eyes?
They that tarry long at the wine; they that go to seek mixed wine.
Look not thou upon the wine when it is red,
when it giveth his colour in the cup, when it moveth itself aright.
At the last it biteth like a serpent, and stingeth like an adder.
Thine eyes shall behold strange women, and thine heart shall utter perverse things.
Yea, thou shalt be as he that lieth down in the midst of the sea, or as he that lieth upon the top of a mast.
They have stricken me, shalt thou say, and I was not sick;
they have beaten me, and I felt it not: when shall I awake? I will seek it yet again."

Titus 2:12
"teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts,
we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;"

1 Thessalonians 5:7-8
"For they that sleep sleep in the night;
and they that be drunken are drunken in the night.
But let us, who are of the day, be sober,
putting on the breastplate of faith and love;
and for an helmet, the hope of salvation."

Clear, unavoidable verses that show that homosexual actions AND feelings are sinful:

Leviticus 18:22
"Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination."

Leviticus 20:13
"If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman,
both of them have committed an abomination:
they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."

Romans 1:26-27
"For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections:
for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman,
burned in their lust one toward another;
men with men working that which is unseemly,
and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet."

1 Corinthians 6:9-10
"Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God?
Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers,
nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners,
shall inherit the kingdom of God."

Matthew 19:4-5
"And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read,
that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,
And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother,
and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?"

1 Timothy 1:9-10
"Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man,
but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners,
for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers,
for manslayers, For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind,
for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons,
and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;"

Why do Christians follow some Old Testament laws, but not all?
Answer: carm.org/leviticus-homosexuali…

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So just drop the "born that way" argument already.
It isn't true, and even if it was, homosexuality would still be wrong.

Proof You Can't Be "Born Gay"

The Rev. William H. Grimes #fundie conservatism.referata.com

Sermon 16: Transgenderism Debunked Part II
By The Rev. William H. Grimes
1 Corinthians 11:14–15 says "Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him? But if a woman have long hair, it is a glory to her: for her hair is given her for a covering." 1 Corinthians 6:19–20 says "What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God’s." Leviticus 18:22 says "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination."
I decided to bring this topic back up because certain liberals on sites such as Irrationalwiki decided to go ahead and try to refute hard biological realities with feelings. For you men out there: do you know what it feels like to be a woman? Women, do you know what it feels like to be a man? I'm not talking about hermaphrodites here, because that is a medical condition someone is born with just like babies can be born with heart defects or anything else. Transgenderism is purely psychological, and does not involve anything hermaphroditic.
The average lifespan in the United States is 77, while the average transgendered person lives to the ripe old age of 35. "Transitioning" as they call it today is incredibly hard on the body, and solves absolutely nothing. Gender dysphoria is a disease of the mind, not of the body. What about transabled and transracial? Where are their special rights? Are we gonna start prescribing amputations of perfectly functional arms and legs next? What about bleaching your skin like Michael Jackson and getting plastic surgery like he did as well? Liberals are too dumb to see where their suspension of logic and reason is heading! IT IS HEADED TO EVERY SINGLE PERSON IN THIS NATION IDENTIFYING AS TRANS-WHATEVER OR NON-BINARY OR AGENDER OR WHATEVEROTHERGENDERITIS THEY WANT TO CALL IT! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Men must use the men's bathroom and women the women's rooms! We cannot favor mental illness over the safety of our women and children! Liberals have lobbied all the psychological institutions to where the only prescribed treatment for the real mental illness of gender dysphoria is so-called "transitioning!" IF YOU PRESCRIBE THIS TO CHILDREN, YOU ARE COMMITTING CHILD ABUSE! WELL GLORY!!!!!!!
WE CANNOT KEEP ON IN THIS SINFUL PATH! WE CANNOT ENABLE SIN AND MENTAL ILLNESS, LEST WESTERN CIVILIZATION FALL AND THE WORLD COMES UNDER GLOBAL CALIPHATE! TRANSWHATEVERS CANNOT LET THE GREAT JUDEO-CHRISTIAN VALUES ERODE TO NOTHING BUT UNIVERSALISM AND MORAL RELATIVISM AND SECULAR HUMANISM! WE ARE LETTING THESE MENTALLY ILL PEOPLE SUFFERING FROM GENDER DYSPHORIA GO INTO EARLY GRAVES WITH CROSS-SEX HORMONES! USE XANAX, ZOLOFT, PIMOZIDE, THORAZINE, BUT NO HORMONES!!!!!!!! WE NEED TO HELP THE MENTALLY ILL GET TO RIGHT RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD NOW! Next week, I'll discuss Romanism Debunked! God's people said AMEN!

Sylvia Ann Driskell #fundie patheos.com

Nebraska woman sues all homosexuals in federal court

Plaintiffs:
I Sylvia Ann Driskell
Ambassador for Plaintiffs
God, and His, Son, Jesus Christ

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Defendants:
Homosexuals
Their Given Name Homosexuals
Their, Alis Gay

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Ambassador: I Sylvia Ann Driskell ambassador for Plaintiffs do set forth on this 30 day of 2015 in writing this Petition to the United State District Court of Omaha, Omaha, Nebraska On behalf of the Plintiffs: God, and His, Son, Jesus Christ.

Ambassador: I Sylvia Ann Driskell ambassador for the Plaintiffs: God, and His, Son, Jesus Christ: Petition Your Honor, and Court of the United State District Court of Omaha, Omaha, Nebraka, To be heard in the matter of homosexuality. Is Homosexuality a sin, or not a sin,

Defendant’s Homosexuals: The Homosexuals say that its not a sin to be a homosexual, An they have the right to marry, to be parents, And God doesn’t care that their homosexuals, because He loves them.

Ambassador: I Sylvia Ann Driskell, refer Your Honor to paragraph 3, line 2 of Defendant’s, Homosexuals say that its not a sin, to be a homosexual.

Plaintiff’s: God tells his children in Leviticus Chapter 18 verse 22. Thou shalt not lie with mankind as with womankind. It is abomination.

Plaintiff’s: God also tells his Children in Romans Chapter 1 verse 26, 27. Romans 1:26. For this cause God gave them up unto vile affection: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: Romans Chapter 1, verse 27. And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; Men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

Ambassador: I Sylvia Ann Driskell: Your Honor, I’ve heard the boasting of the Defendant: the Homosexuals on the world news; from the young, to the old; to the rich an famous, and to the not so rich an famous; How they were tired of hiding in the closet, and how glad they are to be coming out of the closet.

Plaintiff’s: God, tells his Children in Romans Chapter 1, vere 28, And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient.

Ambassador: I Sylvia Ann Driskell, Contend that homosexuality is a sin, and that they the homosexuals know it is a sin to live a life of homosexuality. Why else would they have been hiding in a closet.

Reason2012 #fundie christiannews.net

There's no such thing as homosexuals – only people who currently enjoy homosexuality. And adults continue to permanently turn away from homosexuality, even after decades of believing the lie they were “born that way”, proving it’s not genetic, but the product of indoctrination, confusion, mental instability and/or abuse.

And this is what God says about sin and specifically homosexuality:

Romans 1:26-27 ”For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: (27) And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their_lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.”

1 Corinthians 6:9-10 ”Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate [men who willingly take on the part of a “woman” with another man], nor abusers of themselves with mankind [sodomites], (10) Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.”

1 Timothy 1:9-10 ”Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, (10) For_whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind [s odomites], for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;”

Jude 1:7 ”Even as_Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.”

Luke 17:29 ”[Jesus said] But the same day that Lot went out of_Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.”

Matthew 19:4-6 ”And he [Jesus] answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, (5) And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh? (6) Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.”

Jesus made it quite clear God made us male and female so that a man will leave his father and mother (not two fathers, not three mothers and so on) and cleave onto his wife (not his husband and so on).

The Word of God rebukes us all – even if we all try to say we don’t believe the Bible, the very Word of God will be our judge when we face Him. And God is a righteous judge and will judge us all – not turn a blind eye to our sin. Do not be deceived by the world: it’s God we will have to convince that His word was a lie, not men. What happened in Noah’s day when the entire world rejected God? Did God spare them because there were so many? No – they all perished except for Noah and his family!

Proverbs 9:10 ”The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding.”

God spared not His chosen people – we are kidding ourselves if we think He will spare the United States of America if we choose to blatantly turn away from Him.

Jeremiah 12:17 ”But if they will not obey, I will utterly pluck up and destroy that nation, saith the LORD.”

Genesis 19:7-9 "And said, I pray you, brethren, do not so wickedly. (8) Behold now, I have two daughters which have not known man; let me, I pray you, bring them out unto you, and do ye to them as is good in your eyes: only unto these men do nothing; for therefore came they under the shadow of my roof. (9) And they said, Stand back. And they said again, This one fellow came in to sojourn, and he will needs be a judge: now will we deal worse with thee, than with them. And they pressed sore upon the man, even Lot, and came near to break the door."

Luke 17:28-30 "So also as it was in the days of Lot: they ate, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they built; (29) but the day Lot went out of Sodom, it rained fire and brimstone from the heaven and destroyed them all. (30) Even so it shall be in the day when the Son of Man is revealed."

Romans 1:18-32 "For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold [suppress] the truth in unrighteousness; Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.

For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

Therefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them."

The entire Bible points out men having_sex with men is an abomination. Likewise woman having_sex with women. It's not just Paul that pointed it out.

Genesis 19:4-13 "But before they lay down, the men of the city, even the men of Sodom, compassed the house round, both old and young, all the people from every quarter: And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them [men wanting to have_sex with men].

And Lot went out at the door unto them, and shut the door after him, And said, I pray you, brethren, do not so wickedly. Behold now, I have two daughters which have not known man; let me, I pray you, bring them out unto you, and do ye to them as is good in your eyes: only unto these men do nothing [he offers his daughters to be raped to keep them from having_sex with another man - shows rape is not the issue but male on male_sex]; for therefore came they under the shadow of my roof.

And they said, Stand back. And they said again, This one fellow came in to sojourn, and he will needs be a judge: now will we deal worse with thee, than with them. And they pressed sore upon the man, even Lot, and came near to break the door. But the men put forth their hand, and pulled Lot into the house to them, and shut to the door. And they smote the men that were at the door of the house with blindness, both small and great: so that they wearied themselves to find the door.

And the men said unto Lot, Hast thou here any besides? son in law, and thy sons, and thy daughters, and whatsoever thou hast in the city, bring them out of this place: For we will destroy this place, because the cry of them is waxen great before the face of the LORD; and the LORD hath sent us to destroy it."

Leviticus 18:22 "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination."

Leviticus 20:13 "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."

Even cross-dressing is an abomination:

Deuteronomy 22:5 "The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God."

Deuteronomy 23:17 "There shall be no_whore of the daughters of Israel, nor a sodomite of the sons of Israel."

1 Kings 22:46 "And the remnant of the sodomites, which remained in the days of his father Asa, he took out of the land."

1 Kings 15:11-12 "And Asa did that which was right in the eyes of the LORD, as did David his father. And he took away the sodomites out of the land, and removed all the idols that his fathers had made."

2 Kings 23:7 "And he brake down the houses of the sodomites, that were by the house of the LORD, where the women wove hangings for the grove."

Ezekiel 16:49-50 "Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy. And they were haughty, and committed abomination before me: therefore I took them away as I saw good."

And the "pride" parades about homosexuality are more of the same.

Matthew 19:4-5 "And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?"

Not father and father. Not mother and mother. Not his husband. And only two people off opposite gender can become "one flesh".

May God/Jesus Christ be glorified!

Susan Gryfakis #fundie nwitimes.com

Homosexuality is an illicit lust forbidden by God. He said to His people Israel, "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination" (Leviticus 18:22). "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them" (Leviticus 20:13).

In these passages homosexuality is condemned as a prime example of sin, a sexual perversion. The true Christian can neither alter God's viewpoint nor depart from it.

This has nothing to do with doctrine; it is in the Bible, and the Bible does not change. People have changed since the beginning of time, but God does not change. You may not pick and choose which parts of God's teaching you wish to obey.

The Roman Catholic Church needs to wash its dirty laundry, but it cannot change the teachings of the Bible.

SlaveMaster Productions #fundie wckkkk.org

The White Camelia Knights of the Ku Klux Klan has a very clear and simple understanding on the subject of homosexuality. Homosexuality is a perversion of nature and a filthy, diseased and perverted lifestyle. Homosexuals cannot reproduce, so it is only logical that they recruit others into their perverted lifestyle. One of the ways in which they do this is in shopping malls and other public gathering locations. Police officers will tell you that homosexual predators will hang out in shopping malls and similar type locations looking for young teenagers that are in a partying mood and supply the finances for the party to get close to the youth. They hang around youth centers and music concerts and one of the newest and sickest ways of recruiting is now through adoption. When two men or two women adopt a child it only stands to reason that the child will be raised as a homosexual or lesbian. Homosexuals will deny these alegations of perverted recruitment but they have been proven to be true time and time again. This perverted practice of adoption is all to clear, common sense tells us that when a man or woman raises a child, they raise that child to the standard both moral and sexual that their lifestyle mirrors.

Homosexuals are the predominant carriers of the AIDS virus with 90% of all AIDS cases coming through homosexuality and or IV drug use. What no one tells the American people is that this is a self imposed sickness, if homosexuals would stop their perverted lifestyle and drug use we would not have the problem we have today with AIDS and other venereal diseases.

Pro-homosexual government officials in Washington, D.C. are not going to tell the American people the truth, in fact according to a resent study by the congressional research service, reveals that AIDS was only the 9th most common killer of American's in 1991. However, AIDS has received more research funding than the foremost common killers such as cancer and heart disease. It's obvious as to where the government's priorities are and with whom.

The Klan's belief on homosexuality is not homophobic, but like all subjects, it's based on our biblical beliefs. So what does the bible teach us about these perverted lifestyles. In Leviticus 18:22 we read "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind it is abomination." Also in Leviticus 20:13 "If a man also lie with mankind as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination, they shall surely be put to death, their blood shall be upon them." In Deuteronomy 23:17 we read "There shall be no whore of the daughters of Israel, nor a sodomite of the sons of Israel.".

ExaltGod #fundie exaltgod.deviantart.com

Homosexuals say: It's wrong for Christians to force their definition of marriage on us. And then they say: Our definition of marriage should be forced on you.

Saw the quote on facebook.
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Sodomites get really upset about Christians trying to "force" our definition of marriage on them.
But then they turn right around and demand that everyone accept their warped definition of "marriage"!


Genesis 2:23-24
"And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh:
she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.
Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother,
and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh."

Leviticus 18:22
"Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination."

Leviticus 20:13
"If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman,
both of them have committed an abomination:
they shall surely be put to death;
their blood shall be upon them."

Romans 1:26-27
"For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections:
for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman,
burned in their lust one toward another;
men with men working that which is unseemly,
and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet."

1 Corinthians 6:9-10
"Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God?
Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers,
nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners,
shall inherit the kingdom of God."

Matthew 19:4-5
"And he answered and said unto them,
Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,
And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife:
and they twain shall be one flesh?"

1 Timothy 1:9-10
"Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man,
but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners,
for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers,
for manslayers, For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind,
for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons,
and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;"


How to get saved: exaltgod.deviantart.com/art/Sa…
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NOTE: I do not support the murder, torture, enslavement, etc of sodomites.

ExaltGod #fundie exaltgod.deviantart.com

Sin is sin, no matter the love.

Just a response to the whole "Love is love, no matter the gender" thing.
Just because it's "love" does not magically make it okay :/


Psalm 52:3
"Thou lovest evil more than good; and lying rather than to speak righteousness. Selah."

John 3:19
"And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world,
and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil."

1 Timothy 6:10
"For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after,
they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows."

Micah 3:2
"who hate the good, and love the evil; who pluck off their skin from off them, and their flesh from off their bones;

2 Thessalonians 2:11-12
"And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
that they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness."

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Leviticus 18:22
"Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination."

Leviticus 20:13
"If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination:
they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."

Matthew 19:4-5
"And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,
and said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?"

Romans 1:26-27
"For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
and likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another;
men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet."

1 Corinthians 6:9-10
"Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God?
Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God."

1 Timothy 1:9-10
"knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient,
for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,
for whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons,
and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;"

Lady Checkmate #fundie disqus.com

(NOTE: It is HIGHLY likely this post will not be visible long due to the instability of Lady Checkmate.)

Lady Checkmate's headline:
Praise Report: Alt-Left troll issues death threat and demands we close our Christian channel

Brethren, I come before you humbly and yet boldly to share a testimony. Praise God! God has made us a beacon of light in this dark place where persecuted Christians are compromising and sharing a watered-down Word to cut down on offending bully unbelievers many of whom are spinning their wheels casting pearls before the same user(s) that are utilizing multiple accounts to harass and wear down believers (disobeying God). Not so here. In fact, I have a praise report of persecution that includes death threats and mirrors what Christians are experiencing nation-wide and in fact world-wide. Lets get to it:
There is a lost and very confused alt-left reprobate who hates God and uses Disqus to harass and persecute Christians (same person - just new user names/socks). He is obsessed with our community (has been for a couple of years now). This individual is mentally unstable, highly delusional, literally stalks us, uses multiple sock accounts to down vote Christian comments, issues death threats, posts very vulgar inappropriate comments and when sanctioned immediately turns around and opens new sock accounts through which he continues to troll and brags "You can't stop me." - although he is in fact stopped every time by one click. Again, he is a very deluded and unstable individual possibly self-medicating with meth and other street drugs, mentally and physically ill and prostituting himself from the comments he sends. The man needs Jesus Christ, but has rejected God and Truth. After ministering to Him for a long time and being abused by him constantly, it was obvious that he was reprobate and it was time to shake the dust from our feet and stop casting pearls to be trampled upon.
When he realized his mission to stop the gospel of Jesus Christ from going forth here with lies, twisting scripture and manipulation was futile, he started trolling heavily (character assassinations, lies, manipulations/witchcraft, twisting scripture as Paul said they would, a petition to stop sharing Jesus Christ here, entrapment {he would use various fake user accounts to literally troll our community and when sanctioned, he would cry foul}. It would be funny if it wasn't so pathetic.). So, he started a channel specifically to troll us with and when that didn't work and the sock account he'd selected to lead the persecution was deleted by Disqus for targeted harassment and yet we continued to share Jesus Christ here, he became so "enraged" (his word, not mine), that he started going from channel-to-channel in his attempts. That didn't work either, so he's back and resorting to threats, specifically death threats.
He has made several death threats and I can only share some of the content as his comments are very vulgar, and inappropriate. I will share some of his delusions and lies and then I will share Truth so that others may be edified as to what is going on in our community and how it mirrors the persecution of Christians in the world and is addressed in scripture. I pray the brethren are edified.

His lie: "This is a group of people you have pissed off."
Truth: He is one person, possibly demonized with many evil spirits.
Scriptural reference:
Mark 5:8-10
8 For He said to him, “Come out of the man, unclean spirit!” 9 Then He asked him, “What is your name?”
And he answered, saying, “My name is Legion; for we are many.” 10 Also he begged Him earnestly that He would not send them out of the country.

His lie: "You opened a door you are unable to close. Shut down your channel now."
Truth: God opens doors of opportunity for believers to minister to others, not us ourselves. And what God opens no man can shut and what He closes no man can open. The unbeliever is trying to make it about believers when it is God's Truth he hates.
Scriptural reference:
Revelation 3:7 (NKJV)
7 “And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write,
‘These things says He who is holy, He who is true, “He who has the key of David, He who opens and no one shuts, and shuts and no one opens”:

His lie: "You lie about homosexuals."
Truth: No. We speak only the Truth here. Homosexuality is an abomination. God hates sin, not the individual, but the sin. We will not call evil good nor good evil here. We will not call what God calls shameful honorable.
Scripture reference:
Leviticus 18:22 (KJV)
22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.
Romans 1:26-27(NKJV)
26 For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. 27 Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due.

His lie: You instantly ban anyone who exposes your hatred. You are evil to your core."
Truth: I love you enough to tell you the gospel Truth even though I know we'll be persecuted for it. We're a Christian community and all are welcome who can comply with our community guidelines. We love you and that is why we joyfully endure the persecution that comes along with sharing Jesus Christ with those who hate Him. It is because believers love you that we share Truth with you...so that it may set those free who are called to Jesus Christ. I only sanction those who ignore our community guidelines, walk through warnings, persecute the saints, come here just to troll, disdain and harass believers and who are not interested in hearing the gospel, but are only here to disparage believers and God, blaspheme, mock Holy Spirit and stop us from ministering to those who want to hear the gospel. Those will not be suffered here. I'm saved by grace. I am the righteous of God through Jesus Christ. His sacrifice redeemed and saved me.

His demand: "Leave now."
My response: No - you were told no years ago. We will be here as long as God allows us an open door to minister and to be light in this dark place. Your threats are empty. You do not intimidate us. Greater is he that is in us than he that is in the world. I rebuke you in Jesus name.

Clearly he is attempting to persecute Christians in our small community just as believers are being persecuted all over the world. If one is offended here, it is because of the gospel. I seek not my own. We only share Jesus Christ. We do not interpret it/add to nor take away from it...we only share gospel Truth. Be blessed brothers and sisters as only those who will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution. Amen.

Theses are the sock accounts he opened in the last couple of days to issue death threats and pepper our threads with colorful words and many vile and vulgar insults (note he follows the same three (3) or four (4) channels for ALL of his sock accounts - no disrespect to any channel owners nor mods, but this indicates he's (satan has) setup a stronghold in those communities and is more than likely operating many user accounts under false pretenses, i.e., brethren you're more than likely arguing with the same person using different user names, yes you're being trolled):
HarrisonShelton, NeilBlandford, LouieBalooie, SandyDenny, BerylWilliams, GordonBrown, MatthewDelacort, FrederickMaloway, WilliamBenneton

Note the dates the accounts were opened and the 1, 2 or 3 comments posted which are not visible because they were death threats, contained profanity, trolled, etc. and were removed from our threads. These are sock accounts brethren, utilized by one (1) alt-left reprobate to troll us and issue death threats:

Westboro Baptist Church #fundie godhatesfags.com

Dear friends,

Now that California has kicked up a foul same-sex marriage stink so rank that it’s attracting maggots from all over the world - you two are caterwauling like a tree full of howler monkeys about getting “married” to your own filthy partners in shame. Well, now, if it’s so wonderful, why are you two hiding the time, date and place of those glorious affairs from Westboro Baptist Church? You are glorying in your shame. Phil. 3:19. God has given you a bully pulpit and a bullhorn by virtue of your celebrity status; but rather than use it to spread a little truth and decency for young America - you are doing the opposite, spreading Satan’s filthy fag lies and immorality. You are bound, irreversibly, for Hell. WBC wants to use your farcical, unholy “weddings” to counteract your lies with a little Gospel truth. We plan to picket you! Please tell us the date, time, and place of your blasphemous affairs.

Shep Voice #fundie patheos.com

[=Looking at the guys disqus profile, you see that he goes on this rant on numerous pages following the Orlando Massacre in 2016=]

Some say homosexuality harms no one but this is not true. If it was simply about “separation” of church & state that might be 1 thing. But its not:

“Normalizing” same sex relationships & marriage does have a major negative impact, harming hetrosexual families. You may not understand “cause & effect” consquences but by approving same sex lifestyles you have a negative effect on inocent gullible impressionable children. They copy adult behavior.

I call it the “undertow effect” as more children get swept into this behavior. They start with thinking 2 guys kissing or holding hands, etc. is normal behavior & later that its not bad & some take it farther. It will make it easier for gays to recruit more older children right under your nose – cause & effect laws of physics which cannot be broken w/o Jesus in your life=breakdown of the fabric of society just as Jesus prophecied 2000 years ago=spiritually selling & eating your children=acceleration of slavery to sin. The world & the US are making a grave mistake approving gay marriage.

The gay perversion is 1 of the hardest sins to get out of because it goes to the very core of your brain, spirit & being (internal sins are the worst. Its why the Bible calls it an abomination). The gay perversion is like a social cancer. Leave it in place & it will spread though out the body. Its now spreading through out society. Many ways SEEM right but its end=death (Hell, where you live alone forever). Find and carefully study my other posts. They all go together.

There are real reasons for not accepting gay and related behaviors as normal. Thus not all who are against homosexuality are homophobic nor are all whom are against such behaviors coming from hate as a motive.

Pride comes before the fall of a man. Pride parades come before the fall of mankind. However, many confuse TRUTH (upsets & offends many) and HATE. Telling someone the truth does not mean you hate them. Many ways SEEM right but its end=death (Hell).

Sleeping with/marrying your own gender is in effect SLEEPING WITH/MARRYING YOURSELF which equals being LOVER OF SELF which is an abomination [God's VALID REASON against this practice (right vs wrong love)]. It wrongly distorts, merges and blurs God’s male/female creation differences, characteristics, attributes and purpose-Lev 18:22, Rom 1:26-32, 1 Pet 4:3-4: Gal 5:19-21: 1 Cor 6:18-20. Also, even 1 man/1 woman marriages cannot be rightly put together w/o understanding God’s purpose for it (why there are so many divorces).

Accepting, promoting or participating in gay lifestyles are against God. You cannot remain a Christian if you do these things. It mocks God. Jesus was not talking out 2 nor 1000s of sides of His mouth=no confusion. Only one God can occupy true 360 deg infinity and that God is the God of Israel. Two true 360 deg infinities can not exist at the same time. Occupying this position you can never die=no other legit gods can exist.

Also, under the NT slavery (and killing anyone) was never approved. Neither God nor Jesus were ever into race nor were they ever against interracial marriage. What comes from God lasts forever. What comes from man, including his manmade religions & gods die with him. Why should God want you to live with Him forever if you do not want to know Him, His way, not yours?

Because God is real and made Commandments to His true believers, they must in turn not accept anything God does not approve of. In fact, true Christians should only grieve for the families (not the dead) in private or among themselves. They should not do anything publicly that even looks like they support homosexuality (it is called an abomination because it goes to the very core of one's brain and soul, making it one of the hardest sins to get out of=worst sins). We are not even to look like we accept, support and/or we are participating in their sin as that makes it look like we are promoting their sin which the Bible warns us not to do.

In other words, true Christians do not go to gay anything (i.e. clubs, parades, weddings, wakes, funerals, stores, watch gay shows [like the primetime ones aimed at children], movies (drives up ratings) or send your children to Boy Scouts or other organizations, etc. that install gays as leaders or try to get children to see gays as normal.

If a preacher said to kill them he is dead wrong. However, many are making a huge mistake. There is a huge difference between God's true love and worldly ideas of what love is coming from their sin nature and lack of understanding of who God and Jesus are. There is no use praying for the dead - Lk 9:60 (the unsaved are dead already and the dead cannot hear you nor can they do anything to change their status once they are dead); Lk 12:20.

No human is a child of God unless they become a true follower of Jesus = Jn 3:16-*18-21; *36; 1:12-13 = you must turn to Jesus to become a child of God (see Jn 3:3,5 - Nichodemus was a very religious man yet Jesus told him even he must be born anew or he cannot be a child of God. God's true love to the unsaved is to tell them that they need to be born anew and rightly follow Jesus not joining in in acceptance of them as they are. Find and carefully study my other posts (Hos 4:6). They all go together.

Consult The Rock #fundie ripoffreport.com

[Someone starts a boycott B&N campaign because they are allegedly forcing all established bookstores in the mall to close when the new B&N store opens, this is in the comments section]

YOU CAN'T TRUST ANY OF THEM. THEY'VE GONE TO SPEWING OUT SODOMITE PROPAGANDA SEWAGE

I don't know of any large bookstore that doesn't have a sodomite abominable section. The section glorifies sodomites - Genesis 13, 19; Exodus, Leviticus, Deuteronomy 21, 23, 27; 1Kings 15:11-12, 2Kings 23:7, Isaiah 1:18, 3:9, 5:20-23; Psalms 73, all of Psalms; Proverbs 10:27, all of Proverbs; Romans 1:26-27, etc. within Romans; 1Corinthians 6:9-11, 18}, 1Timothy 1, 2Timothy 3, 2Peter, Jude 7, Revelation, etc, etc, etc! - and has even more lies ABOUT HISTORY, every day life and what sodomites practice (Eph 5:11-13) and do to innocent children (Gen 13:13, 19; Lev 20:13) and to teenagers than the nea, aclu, charles darwin, g brock chisholm and karl marx!! Instead of boycotting, customers continue to patronize those open sewers. It is pathetic. We outnumber that disease ridden, child molesting, dirty, abominable group by a minimum of 49 to one. Yet we give them our business. This must cease if civilization is going to continue to exist. Garbage is extremely popular nowadays. Look at how many have a one-eyed monster: the television.

Westboro Baptist Church #fundie cbsnews.com

The families of those killed in the Virginia Tech massacre may not be able to grieve in peace at the funerals of those they lost. An anti-gay religious group known for protesting at the funerals of American soldiers killed in Iraq is planning on appearing at services for those killed on Monday as well.

The Topeka, Kan.-based Westboro Baptist Church (WBC), which is not affiliated with any national Baptist organization, announced plans to protest at victims’ funerals only hours after 32 people were killed in the worst mass shooting in U.S. history. They also may protest at other events on the Virginia Tech campus.

The organization, founded and led by Fred Phelps, believes the United States has condemned itself to destruction by accepting homosexuality and other “sins of the flesh.” Phelps’ daughter, Shirley Phelps-Roper, said the Virginia Tech teachers and students who died on Monday brought their fate upon themselves by not being true Christians.

James Melton #fundie biblebelievers.com


"Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts." (Rev. 9:21) "And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived." (Rev. 18:23)

The above scripture comes from the book of Revelation, the final book of God's word, which deals with the end-time. One might expect murder, fornication, and theft to be widespread sins in the last days because we see a continual increase of these sins with every passing year. But notice that a fourth sin is mentioned as well: sorcery. According to God's word, we can expect to see an increase in sorcery as the second coming of the Lord Jesus Christ draws near.

According to Webster, the word "sorcery" means "magic; enchantment; witchcraft; divination by the assistance or the supposed assistance of evil spirits, or the power of commanding evil spirits."

One does not have to look very far to see that God's word is being fulfilled before our very eyes. Along with numerous other Biblical signs that our Lord's return is near, we are also witnessing a tremendous increase in occultism. Much of this is obviously due to the way many books, movies, and television programs are glamorizing such evil practices as witchcraft and wizardry. God's word clearly condemns all such practices, yet millions of people, especially young people, are being led to believe that it is possible to be a good witch or a good wizard. Nothing could be further from the truth.

Satan is playing a very nasty trick on our children. Books such as the Harry Potter series are presenting two kinds of witches and wizards: evil ones and good ones. The books and movies offer a "built-in" contrast so that no one looks elsewhere for a contrast. That is, the "good" witches look very good compared to the "evil" witches. The psychological effect is that the mind of the reader or viewer becomes satisfied with the "fair balance" and sees no reason to look outside the movie or book for more accurate information. Consequently, millions of people will read a Harry Potter book and never read the Bible to see what God says about witches and wizards. For example, after watching the movie Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone, one young girl said, "Yes, there is witchcraft, but it is mostly goodwitchcraft." Good witchcraft? Who said it was good witchcraft? God certainly didn't give anyone this impression, so it must have came from the movie or the books. Sadly, this young girl has only been given one side of the story: the Hollywood side.

While expecting everyone to be open-minded and allow their children to be influenced by occultism, the promoters of this wickedness have maintained a very closed mind by never telling anyone what God's word says about witchcraft and wizardry. After reading this tract, you will know God's side. Hopefully, you will be smart enough to realize that you've been deceived by filthy rich producers and publishers. They've fed you a massive lie, and you've paid them for it. The money they received from you will help empower them to sell their lies to others in the form of more books and movies.

The Bible is quite clear: there are no good witches or wizards:

"There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch, or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer. For all that do these things are an abomination unto the LORD: and because of these abominations the LORD thy God doth drive them out from before thee. Thou shalt be perfect with the LORD thy God. For these nations, which thou shalt possess, hearkened unto observers of times, and unto diviners: but as for thee, the LORD thy God hath not suffered thee so to do." (Deuteronomy 18:10-14)

Now, think about that, friend. Either God lied to you in the Bible, or Satan is lying to you in the books and movies. God said that Sabrina the Teenage Witch is an abomination. God said that Harry Potter and his friends are an abomination. Do you have the courage to believe God?

"Ye shall not eat any thing with the blood: neither shall ye use enchantment, nor observe times . . . Regard not them that have familiar spirits, neither seek after wizards, to be defiled by them: I am the LORD your God." (Lev. 19:26, 31) "And the soul that turneth after such as have familiar spirits, and after wizards, to go a whoring after them, I will even set my face against that soul, and will cut him off from among his people . . . A man also or woman that hath a familiar spirit, or that is a wizard, shall surely be put to death: they shall stone them with stones: their blood shall be upon them." (Lev. 20:6, 27)

Have you seen any good witches or good wizards in those passages? Let's try again:

"Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God." (Gal. 5:19-21)

Have you seen any good witches yet? Well, let's keep trying:

"Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live." (Exo. 22:18)

Notice that God doesn't make any distinction between good witches and evil witches. Every witch, every wizard, and every sorcerer in the Bible is evil in the sight of God! Notice Acts 13:8-10:

"But Elymas the sorcerer (for so is his name by interpretation) withstood them, seeking to turn away the deputy from the faith. Then Saul, (who also is called Paul,) filled with the Holy Ghost, set his eyes on him, and said, O full of all subtilty and all mischief, thou child of the devil, thou enemy of all righteousness, wilt thou not cease to pervert the right ways of the Lord?"

Witches, wizards, and sorcerers are children of Satan. They may look cute and make you laugh and cry, but God said they are an abomination to Him. Furthermore, rather than seek entertainment from these evil characters, we have been commanded to separate ourselves from them and expose them for the workers of iniquity that they really are. Please note Ephesians 5:11: " And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them." No fellowship! It's a sin to read their books or watch their movies. In the Bible, God's people hated witchcraft so much that they burnedbooks containing this evil (Acts 19:18-20), yet today we have people entertaining themselves with it. David said, "I will set no wicked thing before mine eyes: I hate the work of them that turn aside; it shall not cleave to me." (Psa. 101:3) Friend, don't comfort yourself with the idea that it's okay to look at witchcraft as long as you don't practice it. No wicked thing should be set before your eyes, and no wicked thought should enter your heart (Mat. 5:28; II Cor. 10:5). God is holy, and He will hold all men accountable to His holy infallible words.

If you have been deceived by the devil's crowd, why not turn from this deception right now and ask God's forgiveness? Witchcraft is a great sin in the sight of God, any type of witchcraft, but no sin is too great for God's forgiveness.

God sent His only begotten Son, the Lord Jesus Christ, to pay for all your sins: "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." (John 3:16) Jesus came, He died, and then He rose again for your justification. Today, Jesus Christ sits at the right hand of God in Heaven waiting for you to turn to Him and trust Him as Lord and Saviour.

The Bible declares that you are a sinner by birth, but you may be a saint by having a new birth: "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God." (Rom. 3:23) "Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me." (Psa. 51:5) "Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again." (John 3:7) "Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever." (I Pet. 1:23)

God wants to forgive you for all your sins and make you a new creature in Christ! II Corinthians 5:17 says, "Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new." Friend, the excitement of reading a book or watching a movie about witchcraft is nothing compared to the excitement and joy of having all your sins forgiven by God Almighty! There is no greater power than the power of God, so why waste your time with the lesser powers of witchcraft and wizardry? There are millions of true Christians who have left the dark world of occultism and entered the lighted path of righteousness, and you can be next.

God's word says in Romans 10:9-10, "That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation." Romans 10:13 says, "For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved."

Friend, what has the major film producers and book publishers done to save your soul from a burning Hell? They've done nothing but bring you closer to Hell! If you died and went to Hell today, the occult producers and publishers wouldn't shed a tear for you. They would go right on damning more people just like you. However, if you turn to Jesus Christ today and trust Him as your Saviour, the angels of Heaven will rejoice! "Likewise, I say unto you, there is joy in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner that repenteth." (Luke 15:10)

Who will be your Lord? Will it be Jesus Christ or Satan? Why not bow your head right now and ask God's forgiveness for all your sins? You have His promise of forgiveness, so why not do it? Become a child of God today and begin living for God. After all, tomorrow may be too late.

God's Warrior #fundie answers.yahoo.com

Does God not also hate atheists?
I am a bit of a fan of the WBC. I would join it if they didn't also hate america. Anyway, I personally love their "God Hates Fags" websites, though I disagree with their "God Hates America" website. Anyway shouldn't they have a "God Hates Atheists" website because I'm sure he hates atheists most of all

Fred Phelps #fundie godhatesamerica.com

WBC will preach at the memorial service of the corpulent false prophet Jerry Falwell, who spent his entire life prophesying lies and false doctrines like "God loves everyone".

There is little doubt that Falwell split Hell wide open the instant he died. The evidence is compelling, overwhelming, and irrefragable. To wit:

1. Falwell was a true Calvinistic Baptist when he was a young preacher in Springfield, Missouri, and sold his soul to Free-Willism (Arminianism) for lucre.

2. Falwell bitterly and viciously attacked WBC because of WBC's faithful Bible preaching -- thereby committing the unpardonable sin -- otherwise known as the sin against the Holy Ghost.

3. Falwell warmly praised Christ-rejecting Jews, pedophile-condoning Catholics, money-grubbing compromisers, practicing fags like Mel White, and backsliders like Billy Graham and Robert Schuler, etc. All for lucre -- making him guilty of their sins.

WBC #fundie blogs.godhatesamerica.com

The "Christians" of this nation – including bombastic big-mouth blowhard bastard Bush – are blood thirsty tyrants well beyond anything China, Hitler, or any other tyrant-of-the-world ever dreamed of being. We’re picketing them every day; we’re at ground zero. We see how violent they are, including the violent veterans and brutish military perverts. We scarcely have a picket any more – which we do daily – without a veteran or member of the military seeking to beat us up.

Westboro Baptist Church #fundie blogs.sparenot.com

Finally, let us say again, thank God for the death of Fred W. Phelps, Sr. We at WBC are not hypocrites after the fashion of Pope Francis, and we are consistent in our message and in our actions. Thank God for the other 150,000 or so deaths on Wednesday, thank God for the deaths that have happened since, and thank God for all His workings in the earth. Blessed be the name fo the Lord.

This generation is horribly caught in the soul-damning sin of worshiping the dead, and we have told you repeatedly over the years about the gravity of this sin. We partake in no such idolatry to serve as an example of how to properly conduct yourselves in these matters. Compare what you see from WBC at this time compared to what you do every time someone dies. You see no pep rally “celebrating the life of the departed”, you don’t see us putting forth some public show of grief and tears. No funerals, no wakes, no tributes, no scholarship funds, no public memorials or candlelight vigils. Just moving forward with our job – preaching to you, and using every opportunity we can to do so. Why? Because as we have repeatedly told you, this is not about any one of us. This is about the message we bring from your Maker, God.

This is a door of utterance (Rev. 3:8) that God opened for us to speak, and so speak we do. Dying time is truth time, and so we preach truth to you regardless of who has died. Your vitriolic bilge is of no concern to us, and we indeed rejoice in it since every article written, every tweet tweeted, every talking head spouting off about this death puts forth this one blessed theological maxim – God Hates Fags. You cannot dictate to us what our response to this matter is, and we will not be swayed by your overwhelming hatred and vulgarity. We will not be swayed by your faux sympathy and fake concern. We will stay on message. That’s what God’s servants do.

The world-wide saturation of these words in this last week is a blessed testimony to the WBC that we are His people and these are His words. Whether you will hear them or whether you will forbear and resist them is not our matter to resolve. That is between you and God.

Dr. Stephen Kim #fundie nycpastor.com

10 WOMEN CHRISTIAN MEN SHOULD NOT MARRY

By Dr. Stephen Kim

In a former post, I detailed 10 men that Christian women ought to avoid when considering marriage.  Today, I present to you my list for Christian men.

“I have perceived among the youths, a young man lacking sense, passing along the street near her corner,taking the road to her house” (Proverbs 7:7-8).

1. The Unbeliever. Scripture is replete with exhortations against such marriages (in both the Old and New Testaments).  Contrary to popular misconception, God’s prohibition against marriages to foreign women in the Old Testament was not due to racism.  Instead, God was simply preventing the spread of idolatry.  Israel, God’s chosen people in the Old Testament, represented what Christians would later represent in the New Testament.  Hence, God’s prohibition against marrying an unbelieving woman in the New Testament (2 Cor 6:14) is simply the extension of God prohibiting a Hebrew man from from marrying a Canaanite woman in the Old Testament (Deut 7:3-4).  “Do not intermarry with them. Do not give your daughters to their sons or take their daughters for your sons, for they will turn your children away from following me to serve other gods, and the LORD’s anger will burn against you and will quickly destroy you” (Deut 7:3-4).

What then, is a believer?  A Christian essentially is someone who believes in the gospel of Jesus Christ.  What then, is the gospel?  The gospel is: 1. God is holy, loving, and just.  He therefore, must condemn all sinners to punishment in the flames of eternal hell;  2. You and I are all sinners who deserve nothing but God’s wrath in hell after our deaths; 3. God loved humanity so much that He sent His only Son, Jesus (who was fully God and fully man), to die on the cross for your sins.  Jesus paid the debt for your sins and absorbed God’s wrath on your behalf.  3 days later, Jesus resurrected from the dead; 4. If you repent (turn from) all your sins and personally put your faith in Jesus Christ as your Lord, God and Savior, then you will have eternal life. (For more information on the saving message of the gospel, click here.)

2. The Divorcee. Jesus clearly taught that unless the first marriage ended due to a partner’s sexual infidelity, a second marriage is to be considered invalid and adulterous (I explain this teaching further here).  A divorced woman, therefore, is off limits for a Christian man–unrepentant adultery being a sin that prevents one from obtaining eternal life (1 Cor 6:9).  “If she divorces her husband and marries another, she commits adultery” (Mark 10:12). “And I say to you: whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another, commits adultery” (Matthew 19:9).
ultery” (Matthew 19:9).

3. The Older Woman. Not a sin, but certainly not God’s ideal.  God expects men to be the spiritual leaders of the home (Eph 5:25) and it certainly requires an extra measure of grace to lead a woman who’s older than you.  Again, if you’re a man and you’re already in such a marriage, then honor it till the day you die–it’s still a valid marriage and divorce is not an option!  However, if you’re not yet married but thinking about an older woman I want to remind you that God intentionally (with good reason!) created Adam before Eve in the First Marriage.  Scripture informs us that God created man first chronologically for the sake of authority!  Listen:  “I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet. For Adam was formed first, then Eve” (1 Timothy 2:12-13).  Evidently, within the First Marriage, God intended chronology (age) to be a reason for authority.

Apparently, even secular researchers are now beginning to discover results that back up God’s wisdom as demonstrated in the Bible:

“If you’re a woman two or more years older than your husband, your marriage is 53 percent more likely to end in divorce than if he was one year younger to three years older.” (Source: Rebecca Kippen, Bruce Chapman and Peng Yu, “What’s Love Got to Do With It? Homogamy and Dyadic Approaches to Understanding Marital Instability,” Melbourne Institute of Applied Economic and Social Research, 2009.)“Marriage generally improves life expectancy, but the age gap between a couple affects the life expectancy of men and women very differently.  Marrying an older man shortens a woman’s lifespan, but having a younger husband reduces it even more, the study found.  The findings, drawn from the medical records of two million Danish couples, suggest that the best a woman can do is marry a man of about the same age. Health records have shown previously that men live longer if they have a younger wife, an effect researchers expected to see mirrored in women who married younger men. However, a woman who is between seven and nine years older than her husband has a 20% greater mortality rate than if she were with a man the same age.” (Source: http://www.theguardian.com/science/2010/may/12/marrying-younger-man-woman-mortality“A new study shows that women who marry men seven to nine years younger than they are increase their mortality risk by 20 percent. This is the opposite of the finding for men who marry much younger wives – their life expectancyincreases. The new study from the Max Planck Institute for Demographic Research in Rostock, Germany, changes assumptions about how marriage can extend life, owing in part to improved support systems spouses can provide for one another, and the supposed psychological benefit from having a younger spouse, who could become a caretaker should the older spouse become infirm.” (Source: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/for-married-women-age-gap-can-be-deadly/
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4. The Feminist.  There’s no room within Christendom for the “Christian feminist.”  Though women and men have equal value in the eyes of God (Gal 3:28), they certainly have different God-given roles.  Any woman who tries to usurp her husband’s authority or even claims to be a co-leader with her man is gravely dishonoring the God who created her to be subject and obedient to her husband (Eph 5:22, Col 3:18, 1 Pet 3:1).   Eve was distinctly created “for” man, a point that the apostle Paul makes abundantly clear in 1 Corinthians 11 when he writes, “For man was not made from woman, but woman from man. Neither was man created for woman, but woman for man.” (1 Corinthians 11:8-9).  Men, your wife is to be your “helper” (Gen 2:18)–not your leader and certainly not your equal in terms of authority.  Look for a woman who agrees with you in this very vital God-ordained relational dynamic.

5. The Immodest-Dresser.  Sexy might inadvertently catch your eyeballs, but it shouldn’t catch your heart.  The way that a woman is willing to expose herself says much about her heart: “And behold, the woman meets him, dressed as a prostitute, wily of heart” (Proverbs 7:10).  The text in Proverbs explains that a woman will dress in a certain way to catch a certain type of man.  Don’t be that man.  Don’t be the fool who’s led by his hormones instead of the Holy Spirit.  Remember: you want godly, not gaudy.  

6. The Gossiper/Slanderer.  Women may love to talk, but there’s wisdom in looking for a woman who speaks with wisdom. Gossip and slander are not good things to have in your marriage. Desperate housewives make for desperate husbands.  “Besides that, they learn to be idlers, going about from house to house, and not only idlers, but also gossips and busybodies, saying what they should not.” (1 Timothy 5:13).

7. The Childbirth Avoider. Do not marry a woman who is not willing to have children of her own.  In the Christian worldview, there is absolutely no room for two married, biologically capable, human beings to remain intentionally child-less.  If you are adverse towards having children, then there’s a simple remedy for that: single-hood.   However, if God has called you to marriage, then He actually expects children.  Both the New and Old Testaments are very clear on this teaching: “Did he not make them one, with a portion of the Spirit in their union? And what was the one God seeking? Godly offspring” (Malachi 2:15).  “Yet she will be saved through childbearing—if they continue in faith and love and holiness, with self-control” (1 Timothy 2:15).

8. The Wander-Luster.  There’s nothing wrong with the occasional family vacation.  There is something very wrong with a girl who regularly needs to be “out of the home.”  The constant desire for new experiences, new places, new faces, and new forms of entertainment only serves to clearly manifest the fact that the woman has not found her rest in God.  Believe it or not, Scripture speaks repeatedly about such women:  “She is loud and wayward; her feet do not stay at home” (Proverbs 7:11); “Besides, they get into the habit of being idle and going about from house to house. And not only do they become idlers, but also busybodies who talk nonsense, saying things they ought not to” (1 Timothy 5:13).

9. The Career-first Woman. Now, I want to clarify something here.  There is nothing wrong with a woman who works (Acts 16:14), what’s wrong is a woman who puts her career ahead of her family.  Modern American society might hate to hear this, but God made men to be the providers and women to be the nurturers of the home (in most instances).  It’s okay for a woman to be a doctor, attorney, or any other professional.  However, if her career is coming at the expense of her home, then something is wrong.  If day-care is raising her young children while she’s working, then something is wrong.  I understand that there might be a season of life where the wife might have to be the main bread-winner due to her husband’s unemployment, but it should not be the desired norm. The woman ought to be willing (and even desirous–to some extent) to give up her job for the sake of raising her kids in the Lord.  “So I counsel younger widows to marry, to have children, to manage their homes and to give the enemy no opportunity for slander” (1 Tim 5:14).

10. The Devotion-less Woman.  Is the woman having a regular, daily devotional time with her God?  If she doesn’t love the Lord now, chances are, she won’t love the Lord after marriage.  (Don’t delude yourself–you’re not going to change her.)  You want to marry a girl who has an intimate relationship with Jesus.  Jesus (not you) has to be the first man in her life.  Here are some good questions to ask: Does she have an active prayer life?  Does she have a heart for evangelism?  Is she hungry for God’s Word?  What does her pastor think about her?

Do you remember this account from Scripture:

Now as they went on their way, Jesus entered a village. And a woman named Martha welcomed him into her house. [39] And she had a sister called Mary, who sat at the Lord’s feet and listened to his teaching. [40] But Martha was distracted with much serving. And she went up to him and said, “Lord, do you not care that my sister has left me to serve alone? Tell her then to help me.” [41] But the Lord answered her, “Martha, Martha, you are anxious and troubled about many things, [42] but one thing is necessary. Mary has chosen the good portion, which will not be taken away from her.” (Luke 10:38-42 ESV)

Marry the Mary (no pun intended).  Such women have picked “…the good portion, which will not be taken away” from them. God be with you men.  Strong families start with strong wives.  Choose wisely and choose in the Lord!

Dr. Stephen Kim #fundie nycpastor.com

[from: 10 WOMEN CHRISTIAN MEN SHOULD NOT MARRY]

3. The Older Woman. Not a sin, but certainly not God’s ideal. God expects men to be the spiritual leaders of the home (Eph 5:25) and it certainly requires an extra measure of grace to lead a woman who’s older than you. Again, if you’re a man and you’re already in such a marriage, then honor it till the day you die–it’s still a valid marriage and divorce is not an option! However, if you’re not yet married but thinking about an older woman I want to remind you that God intentionally (with good reason!) created Adam before Eve in the First Marriage. Scripture informs us that God created man first chronologically for the sake of authority! Listen: “I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet. For Adam was formed first, then Eve” (1 Timothy 2:12-13).

Apparently, even secular researchers are now beginning to discover results that back up biblical claims: “If you’re a woman two or more years older than your husband, your marriage is 53 percent more likely to end in divorce than if he was one year younger to three years older.” (Source: Rebecca Kippen, Bruce Chapman and Peng Yu, “What’s Love Got to Do With It? Homogamy and Dyadic Approaches to Understanding Marital Instability,” Melbourne Institute of Applied Economic and Social Research, 2009.)

4. The Feminist. There’s no room within Christendom for the “Christian feminist.” Though women and men have equal value in the eyes of God (Gal 3:28), they certainly have different God-given roles. Any woman who tries to usurp her husband’s authority or even claims to be a co-leader with her man is gravely dishonoring the God who created her to be subject and obedient to her husband (Eph 5:22, Col 3:18, 1 Pet 3:1). Eve was distinctly created “for” man, a point that the apostle Paul makes abundantly clear in 1 Corinthians 11 when he writes, “For man was not made from woman, but woman from man. Neither was man created for woman, but woman for man.” (1 Corinthians 11:8-9). Men, your wife is to be your “helper” (Gen 2:18)–not your leader and certainly not your equal in terms of authority. Look for a woman who agrees with you in this very vital God-ordained relational dynamic.

Westboro Baptist Church #fundie godhatesamerica.com

Our message is very simple, and rings true in the ears of God's servants -- America is taking a blood bath in Iraq (and elsewhere) because America is busily persecuting WBC for preaching the Word of God to this evil nation of perverts. God hates America. her end is near, and approaching fast.

For 16 years we have warned you -- on a daily basis, on the streets of some 460 cities in all 50 states: America needs the message of Westboro Baptist Church -- "God Hates Fags (and ramifications thereof)" -- more than she needs air to breathe, food to eat, and water to drink.

Meanwhile, America finalized the deal whereby she sold her soul to the sodomites -- following the example of Sodom, the seven nations of the Canaanites, ancient Israel, and all the doomed empires of the past, by decriminalizing and forcing people to respect those beasts which God calls an abomination Johnson v. Texas did that, and you so-called Christians were too busy villifying us to do anything about it. There is no possibility of relief from this wrath, because sodomites and their enablers -- by definition -- are incapable of repenting, since they are proud of their sins, indeed won't admit it is a sin. Therefore they are wholly given up by God.

Ancient Israel ignored God's warning about following the perversions of the doomed sodomite Canaanites -- and Israel also perished. That warning is found at Leviticus 18:24-28, to wit: "Defile not ye yourselves in any of these things (sodomy, incest, adultery, bestiality); for in all these the nations are defiled which I cast out before you...That the land spue not you out also, when ye defile it, as it spued out the nations that were before you." Even as God today -- through Westboro Baptist Church -- warns America.

And, as Christ warned doomed Jerusalem, even so WBC warns doomed America: "O America, America, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee,(translate: thou that persecutest WBC) how often would I have agthered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! Behold, your house is left unto you desolate" (Matt. 23:37-38).

Peter Ward #fundie patheos.com

Who do you SAY JESUS IS?

Upon that answer you are saved or damned

You can be a degreed scholar known for quoting the bible and go straight to hell when you die. The devil isn't stupid and loves quoting the bible against believers but he doesn't really believe it either (and by the way the devil is called the "accuser" in the bible, he goes accusing others of wrongdoing no matter how legit or not because he is a liar).

Liberals LOVE critique and NOT facts these days and fool only their own.

Do YOU have a lifestyle of calling someone names no matter how the evidence speaks? Do you assume and call names because a celebrity or leader told you what to think today?

"Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God (1 Cor. 6:9,10, NASB).

The acts of the sinful nature are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God (Gal. 5:19-21).

For of this you can be sure: No immoral, impure or greedy person—such a man is an idolater—has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God. Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of such things God’s wrath comes on those who are disobedient. Therefore do not be partners with them (Eph. 5:5-7)."
All of that not SOME but ALL of that message is true. Hear that often in Huffington, Vox, Slate, Salon or Yahoo?

Jim Rudd #fundie covenantnews.com

Sodomy is not a light or transient crime. It is an abomination (Lev. 18:22). It is the culmination of man's apostasy and hostility toward God and His Church (Rom. 1:18-32). For lawmakers and judges to approve of sodomy brings eternal damnation upon themselves (Rom. 13:2) and God's righteous judgment of death on the society as a whole (Gen. 19:24, II Pet. 2:6).

Therefore, such lawmakers and judges are not only anti-Christian by approving of sodomy, they make the civil government a vile cesspool from which the abominations vomit out across the land. By displaying such a contempt for the administration of Justice, such civil officials are not only the source of the defilement (Lev.18:24-25), they are the criminals (Rom.1:32), and a hostile enemy authorizing the destruction of the society in which we live (Jude 7).

Not only should Christian men fight for the safety of their families by demanding that these civil officials repent, or resign from office immediately, Christians should be demanding the strongest laws and punishments against sodomy be put into effect so as to cleanse the pestilence from our society. (Lev. 20:13)

Westboro Baptist Church #fundie godhatestheworld.com

[Extracts from the WBC Atlas "God Hates the World" explaining in detail why they hate every living person on Earth. This is not parody.]
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God Hates Bhutan. Bhutan, which is officially called the Kingdom of Bhutan, is one of the most isolated nations in the world, and because of this, homosexuality is not really known in this nation. They claim ignorance of homosexuality, but their dark, evil hearts know what they're doing. Bhutan is sometimes referred to as an openly bisexual society. Whatever name you try to put on it, if it walks like a duck (fag) and quacks like a duck (fag), it is a duck (fag).

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Botswana's False Religious Systems

Christians - My eye! 60% of these populous claim to be Christian, but the crimes still continue unabated in that land. They are the very picture of this: Mark 7:6 He answered and said unto them, Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me.
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Greece's False Religious Systems

The whores of the Greek Orthodox whore house have such a chokehold on Greece that their flag depicts the white cross symbol of that monster. The government of Greece financially supports this whore, paying the salaries and training of the “clergy,” and financing the maintenance of their buildings. But don’t worry, they have a Ministry of Education and Religion that makes sure everyone gets religious freedom in Greece. Though they did have a little hiccup when they denied the application for recognition and a house of prayer permit to the Church of Scientology. These whores fight amongst themselves all the time, and if they can get the corrupt government of a doomed nation to give them the charge of things, their tyrant fangs come all the way out.
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Solomon Islands's Filthy Manner of Life
Solomon Island has a history of abortion and infanticide. Claiming a need to control the population, only the oldest son is allowed to marry, while all others are allowed to have sexual affairs but not allowed to produce children from them. The preferred form of population control is killing babies before or just after birth.
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Joe Dallas #fundie exodusglobalalliance.org

Responding to Pro-Gay Theology

Major denominations ordaining homosexuals, priests and clergy presiding over same-sex weddings, sanctuaries invaded by boisterous gay activists, debates over homosexuality ripping congregations apart-who would have guessed we would ever reach such a point in church history?

A vigorous debate between Christians and homosexuals shouldn't be surprising in and of itself. If author and commentator Dr. Dennis Praeger is right when he says the Judeo-Christian ethic is responsible for the Western World's disapproval of homosexuality,[1] then conflicts between the Church and the gay rights movement are not only understandable, they are inevitable. (While acceptance of homosexuality in ancient cultures is well documented,[2] the past 2000 years of Western thought have, by and large, rejected it,[3] and the influence of both Old and New Testaments can be credited for that.)[4]

What is surprising, though, is the current trend in which these ethics are not only being challenged, but rewritten as well, most notably in the form of the pro-gay theology.

The pro-gay theology is much like the broader gay rights philosophy, in that it seeks legitimization (not just tolerance) of homosexuality. Gay spokesmen have made no secret of this as being their goal in secular culture; activist Jeff Levi put it plainly to the National Press Club during the 1987 Gay Rights March on Washington: "We are no longer seeking just a right to privacy and a protection from wrong. We also have a right-as heterosexual Americans already have-to see government and society affirm our lives. Until our relationships are recognized in the law-in tax laws and government programs to affirm our relationships, then we will not have achieved equality in American society.[5]"

But pro-gay theology takes it a step further by redefining homosexuality as being God-ordained and morally permissible:

"I have learned to accept and even celebrate my sexual orientation as another of God's good gifts." -gay author Mel White[6]

When God is reputed to sanction what He has already clearly forbidden, then a religious travesty is being played out, and boldly. Confronting it is necessary because it (the pro-gay theology) asks us to confirm professing Christians in their sin, when we are Biblically commanded to do just the opposite. As Christ's ambassadors on earth, we unfaithfully represent Him if a professing believer's ongoing sin has no effect on our relationship with that believer...which is, in essence, what Paul told the Thessalonians:

In the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, we command you, brothers, to keep away from every brother who is idle and does not live according to the teaching you received from us. If anyone does not obey our instruction in this letter, take special note of him. Do not associate with him, in order that he may feel ashamed. Yet do not regard him as an enemy, but warn him as a brother. (2 Thes 3:6, 14- 15)

Likewise, when Paul heard of a Corinthian church member's incestuous relationship with his stepmother, he ordered the man be excommunicated (1 Cor 5:1-5), then explained the principle of confrontation and, if necessary, expulsion from the community of believers:

Don't you know that a little yeast works through the whole batch of dough? Get rid of the old yeast that you may be a new batch without yeast. (1 Cor 5:6-7)

A healthy body purges itself of impurities; the Body of Christ cannot afford to do less. Error, like leaven, has a toxic effect.

The pro-gay theology is a strong delusion-a seductive accommodation tailor-made to suit the Christian who struggles against homosexual temptations and is considering a compromise. Some who call themselves gay Christians may be truly deceived into accepting it; others might be in simple rebellion. What compels them to believe a lie we cannot say. What we can say is that they are wrong...dead wrong.

But even as we say so, the caution of a proper spirit is in order. When we answer the pro-gay theology, we do so as sinners approaching other sinners, nothing more. Rev. Andrew Aquino of the Columbus Baptist Association expressed it perfectly during a recent interview:

My message to the homosexual is: We love you. Come and struggle with us against sin. Don't give in to it.

The Pro-Gay Theology in Brief

Exactly what do the "gay Christians" believe, and how did they come to believe it? The first question is more easily answered than the second. Explaining what a group believes is not hard. Explaining how they have come to believe it is another matter.

We cannot read minds or motives. That, I am sure, is one reason Jesus warned against judging (Mt 7:1). We can be certain the teachings themselves are false; why people have accepted them is something we cannot prove one way or another. Yet the Bible offers clues, and testimonies from members of the gay Christian movement are also enlightening, in helping to understand what the gay Christian movement believes, and what personal and spiritual factors may have influenced their beliefs.

The pro-gay theology is the cornerstone of the "gay Christian" movement (which is comprised of whole denominations, like the Universal Fellowship of Metropolitan Community Churches, as well as gay caucuses within mainline denominations) just as the Athanasian and Nicene Creeds are the foundation of most Protestant's beliefs.[8] The movement is diverse; some of its spokespersons-Episcopal Priest Robert Williams and Bishop John Shelby Spong, for instance -promote flamboyant and blatantly heretical ideas. But most groups within the gay Christian movement ostensibly subscribe to traditional theology. (The Statement of Faith of the Metropolitan Community Churches, for example, is based on the Apostles and Nicene Creeds.)[9]

Although the pro-gay theology claims a conservative theological base, it includes additions and revisions to basic, traditional ethics. First, homosexuality is seen as being God ordained. As such, it's viewed as being on par with heterosexuality. Gay author Mel White points out, quite accurately, that "if you don't see that premise (that God created homosexuality) then gay marriage looks ridiculous, if not insane."[10]

But to be seen as created by God, the traditional understanding of homosexuality needs to be discredited. This is done four basic ways within the "gay Christian" movement. First, prejudice against homosexuals is blamed for the understanding most Christians have of the Biblical references to it. The founder of the Metropolitan Community Churches, Rev. Troy Perry, asserts this is his writings:

To condemn homosexuals, many denominations have intentionally misread and misinterpreted their Bibles to please their own personal preferences.[11]

So, according to Perry and others, not only are most Christians wrong about homosexuality, but many or most are intentionally wrong- deliberately reading their prejudice against gays into the Bible.

White goes even further, stating that major leaders in the Christian community-Jerry Falwell, James Kennedy and Pat Robertson-take public stands against the gay rights movement for the sake of raising funds and increasing their visibility.[12]

Casting doubt on the motives of conservative leaders, and numerous denominations, makes it easier to discount their Bible-based objections to homosexuality. No wonder this tactic is so common in the "gay Christian" movement. Others within the movement contend the scriptures we understand to condemn homosexuality have actually been mistranslated. According to this view, the Bible should be taken literally in its original language; the problem with most Christians, they say, is that they don't know Biblical Greek and Hebrew well enough to realize our modern translations on homosexuality are all wrong.

Another claim pro-gay theorists make is that the Bible verses (Lev 18:22 and 20:13; Rom 1:26-27; 1 Cor 6:9-10; 1 Tim 1:9-10) which seem to prohibit homosexuality have actually been yanked out of context from their original meaning, or that they only applied to the culture existing at the time they were written. (Professor Robin Scroogs of Union Theological Seminary, for example, claims, "Biblical judgments about homosexuality are not relevant to today's debate."[13])

These arguments do not sit well with most serious Christians. The scriptures mentioned earlier are so clear and specific they defy interpretation of any sort. "Thou shalt not lie with a man as with a woman" requires no more interpretation than "Thou shalt not kill." It is intellectually dishonest to say conservatives "interpret" such verses out of prejudice against homosexuals. Those same "prejudiced" conservatives (Falwell, Kennedy, Robertson et al) also take scriptures against heterosexual sins quite literally. If they only prohibit homosexuality out of their own prejudice, why on earth do they, as heterosexuals, also condemn heterosexual sins? The argument makes no sense.

Neither does the "mistranslation" argument. We can allow some discrepancy in minor areas of translation, but, on something as important as sexual ethics, are we really to believe the Bible translators we rely on got it wrong five different times, in two different testaments? And only on the scriptures regarding homosexuality? (Pro-gay apologists seem to have no problem with the other scriptures condemning sins like adultery and child abuse.)

Equally poor is the "out-of-context" argument. The fact is, in Leviticus, Romans, 1 Corinthians and 1 Timothy, homosexuality is mentioned in the context of sexual and immoral behavior! The context is quite clear-a variety of behaviors are prohibited; homosexuality-along with adultery, fornication and idolatry-is one of them.

The "cultural" argument fares no better. In some cases, a scripture may seem culturally bound (injunctions against long hair on men, or women speaking to their husbands during church.) But again-five times? Five different scriptures, from both testaments, addressed to highly different cultures (from the Hebrew to the Roman) are obviously not culturally bound. The cultures they address are just too different.

All of which leaves conservatives highly skeptical of the "gay Christian" movement's claim to respect Biblical authority. It takes mental gymnastics to accept these inadequate arguments; those not having a stake in accepting them are unlikely to do so. But those having a personal interest the pro-gay theology are another matter. Twist the Scriptures hard enough and you can make them appear to say anything you please. Author Paul Morris raises this very issue when he warns:

But if I were a Christian homosexual, I think this one question would disturb me most: Am I trying to interpret Scripture in the light of my proclivity; or should I interpret my proclivity in the light of Scripture?[14]

An unfortunate pattern of doing the former can be seen in the "gay Christian" movement's testimonials. Rev. Troy Perry writes about having already decided homosexuality was acceptable, then searching the Bible to equip himself to answer conservatives.[15] Mel White alludes, in his book, to some earlier studies of the destruction of Sodom[16] but his turning point seems to have come not from a careful, prayerful study of scripture, but from a psychologist who encouraged him to accept his homosexuality and find a lover![17] And gospel musician Marsha Stevens (composer of the beloved song "For Those Tears I Died" and now openly lesbian) gives a lengthy account of her acceptance of homosexuality without once explaining how she reached the point of believing homosexuality was scripturally acceptable. (The closest she comes is in telling how she prayed one night for confirmation that lesbianism was okay; the next morning someone gave her a pin saying "Born Again Lesbian.")[18] Considering the background and theological training of the above-mentioned believers in pro-gay theology, their acceptance of it is astounding.

Or maybe it is not. Paul predicts an abandonment of truth for the sake of personal fulfillment:

For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths. (2 Tim 4:3-4)

Self over truth, man over God-can a Christian be so deceived? Evidently- Paul referred to the Galatian church as having been "bewitched" (Gal 3:1), and Jesus warned that a prominent sign of the days before His coming would be an increase in deception (Mt 24:14). To confront the pro-gay theology, then, is to confront a deceptive element of our time- the tendency to subjugate objective truth to subjective experience.

That is one reason confrontation is not enough to change a heart. Being knowledgeable enough to dismantle all the "gay Christian" movement's claims will not be enough to persuade a homosexual to repent. The heart, having been hardened through deception or rebellion or both, has to be softened. And that is the work of God alone. Ours is to simply speak the truth, trusting Him to quicken it to our hearers.

To that end, this three-part series will address the pro-gay theology by dividing its arguments-or tenants-into three categories: social justice arguments, general religious arguments, and scriptural arguments. A brief description of these arguments will be provided, followed by a response/rebuttal to each.

Mike King #conspiracy tomatobubble.com

Much butt-hurt emanating from Sulzberger's Slimes and the rest of the Piranha Press over the Chinese government's decision to scrap the two-term limit (5 years per term) for its appointed President, Xi Jinping. The tsunami of condemnation from the great and the good who occupy the high places of "the free world" ™ has been so intense, that it only took hours after the announcement for Sugar and me, er, "The Editorial Board" of The Anti-New York Times to grant expedited trademark privileges for the term "power grab" ™ -- ("Xi power grab" already returns 513,000 results for Joogle Search)

Before we dig into a few select excerpts from Sulzberger's scribblers, let us note, with gleeful approval, that the evil, deceitful, seditious Slimes, both the English and Chinese as well as both the print and cyber versions, was banned in China back in 2012. (here) And with "strongman" ™ Xi's latest "power grab" ™, it doesn't look like "the paper of record" will be allowed to corrupt young Chinese minds anytime soon.

Meyers: There was a time, not so long ago, when a Chinese leader setting himself up as ruler for life would have stirred international condemnation for bucking the global trend toward greater democracy. Now, such an action seems fully in keeping with moves by many countries in the other direction.

Translation: What Meyers (cough cough) is really saying is: "Damn it. We are losing our grip on too many countries!"

Meyers: The surprise disclosure on Sunday that the Communist Party was abolishing constitutional limits on presidential terms — effectively allowing President Xi Jinping to lead China indefinitely — was the latest and arguably most significant sign of the world’s decisive tilt toward authoritarian governance.

Analysis: Notice how selective these Globalists are in their condemnation of "authoritarian governance." The President of their beloved and revered Brussels-based European Union and also the EU "Council of Ministers" are non-elected and rule by decrees from which member states cannot escape without sanctions or threats of sanctions.

Meyers: The list includes Vladimir V. Putin of Russia, Abdel Fattah el-Sisi of Egypt and Recep Tayyip Erdogan of Turkey, all of whom have abandoned most pretenses that they rule according to the people’s will. Authoritarianism is also reappearing in places like Hungary and Poland that barely a quarter-century ago shook loose the shackles of Soviet oppression.

Analysis: Again, note the hypocrisy and selective application of standards. The Frumpy Frau of Germany has run that oppressed nation with an iron fist since 2005 and will likely stay in office until 2021, before handing over the reins of Germany's apocalyptic horses to her hand-picked successor -- an even homlier hyphenated hag named Annegret Kramp-Karrenbauer. And yet, we never seem to hear complaints about Angie's "power grab" ™, do we?

The "authoritarians" Xi, Putin, Sisi and others don't give a rat's ass what the Jew York Slimes has to say. And that is why Sulzberger's scribblers are "concerned." 2 & 3. Unlimited terms are 'OK" if the "authoritarian" in question is a Globalist libtard. After 16 years as Boss Lady of Bolshevik Germany, the Frumpy Frau will likely be succeeded by her hand-picked cronie bitch, Annegret Kramp-Karrenbauer (yikes!)

Meyers: There are many reasons for such moves by Mr. Xi and others ... but a significant one is that few countries have the standing or authority, morally or otherwise, to speak out — least of all, critics say, the United States.

“I mean, who is going to punish him internationally now?” asked Susan L. Shirk, the chairwoman of the 21st Century China Program at the University of California, San Diego.

Analysis: Let me get this straight, Professor Shirk (cough cough). You want Xi to be "punished" for his "authoritarianism" ™, but lament the fact there is no one who can do it. We wonder, bitch, when the "democratic" ™ USA terror bombed the innocent populations of Serbia and Iraq into submission, and unleashed proxy terror armies upon Syria and Libya, did you and your fellow eggheads ever call for Messrs' Clinton, Bush and Obongo to be "punished internationally?" Hmmm?

Meyers: “Thirty years ago, with what Xi did, with what Erdogan has done, there would have been an outpouring of international concern: ‘You’re getting off the path,’ and so on,” said Michael A. McFaul, a political scientist and diplomat who, ... wrote extensively on building democracies.“Nobody is making that argument today,” he added, “certainly not Trump.”

Translation: What "political scientist" McFaul is eally saying: "1990's China and Yeltsin's democratic ™ Russia used to fear us. Now they won't obey and Trump is sympathetic to their nationalistic authoritarian ™ tendencies."

The way in which history links to the present is really fascinating. Way back in the 1930's, The Great One (that's Hitler for all you newbies and normies) was on to this trademarked "democracy" ™ vs "authoritarianism" ™ jive talk. Tell it, Great One, tell it:

1. Hitler: "Yes, Germany, before us, was back then a democracy, and we had been plundered and squeezed dry. No, what does democracy or authoritarian state mean to those international hyenas? They don’t care at all. They are only interested in one thing: Are you willing to be plundered? Yes or no? Are you stupid enough to keep quiet in the process? Yes or no? And when a democracy is stupid enough not to stand up, then it is good. But when an authoritarian state declares, ‘You are not going to plunder our people, neither from the inside nor the outside’, then that is bad."

2. Academic egghead Susan Shirk wants Xi to be punished, but doesn't know how it can be done.

Meyers: President Trump’s administration on Monday brushed off questions about Mr. Xi’s move. “I believe that’s a decision for China to make about what’s best for their country,” said Sarah Huckabee Sanders, the White House press secretary.

Analysis: Add a few check-marks to the "plus side" of Trump's ledger.

Meyers: Even the Russia that emerged from the ruins of the Soviet Union adopted a democratic constitution and instituted free elections. ...

Analysis: Democracy was imposed upon Russia by western Globalists who thought they could control the political parties.

Meyers: Whatever the chaos of Boris N. Yeltsin’s era in the 1990s, democracy was taking root when Mr. Putin came to power — in a relatively free and fair election, no less.

Translation: "I don't care if Russians were starving and freezing to death during the economic collapse of the Yeltsin years. At least we had control over Russia's internal politics back then."

Meyer: “(Western liberal democracy) is no more,” Brad W. Setser, a Treasury official during the Obama administration who is now at the Council on Foreign Relations, wrote in a message after news emerged of Mr. Xi’s move.

Analysis: So, the notorious Council on Foreign Relations -- founded in 1921 for the purpose of recruiting ambitious politicians, journalists and academics to work towards creating an eventual world government -- isn't too happy about "Xi's move." That alone, boys and girls, is reason for all of us to give a great big round of cyber-applause for "China's Hitler" --- Heil Xi Jinping!

1. Trump is being mocked for his indifference towards Xi's "power grab" ™. 2. The Globalists were pleased when their control over Russian "democracy" brought death, poverty and starvation to Yeltsin's Russia. Note the sub-headline from Time Magazine (July, 1996): "The Secret Story of How American Advisers Helped Yeltsin Win." But now that the "authoritarian" Putin has brought stability and growing prosperity to Russia, it is bad. 3. The CFR -- whose original Director was Paul "Father of the Federal Reserve" Warburg, has been at this dirty game of foreign intrigue for nearly 100 years!

Boobus Americanus 1: I read in the New York Times today about the president of China's recent power grab.

Boobus Americanus 2: That Jinping is becoming the Hitler of China.

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Sugar: And why exactly iss that a bad thing, Boobuss?

Editor: Halloween is not till October, Sugar.

Beejai Richardson #fundie theriverwalk.org

browsing through my internet newsfeed when I noticed an offhand comment in an article saying that Westboro Baptist was protesting the Olympics. Occasionally curious to see this trainwreck in action I tried briefly to do a little more research. In a brief look see I didn’t see much more about it but that doesn’t surprise me. Their shenanigans are mostly ignored by the rational world at this point. It also wouldn’t surprise me if they were actually protesting Rio. After all, the Olympics shifting stance about transgender athletes does seem to be right up WBC’s protest alley.

Not to be deterred, I did something I frequently do for theological or political research but have apparently never done for something as base as Westboro Baptist Church. I went to the source. At least, I tried to. Apparently their church domain is “www.godhatesfags.com”? Really? Somebody please tell me this is a parody site. Before digging into Rio I tried to figure out if this was their real page or not. As best as I can tell, it is and quite frankly, that sickens me. After a few minutes, I had to get out of there and go take a shower to wash that filth off before I could come back to the keyboard and start typing here.

React: In case you didn’t guess, I can’t stand Westboro Baptist Church. But you might be a little bit surprised to know why. I mean, if they want to be all stupid and angry and protest everything from Pokemon Go to the Olympics to military funerals, that’s fine. Go right ahead. America has a long standing tradition of protest and the frivolous are just as free to do so as the deadly serious, the not quite politically correct just as much as those on the cutting edge of social reform. What gets me is they call themselves a “church” and they blame God as a motivator for their evil. If they want to sin, go ahead and sin… just don’t call yourself a Christian as you revel in it.

The same thing is true for pretty much another issue. If someone wants to go out and get drunk every weekend, that’s their choice. While I won’t be going out with you, I have no problem sitting down for a cup of coffee (or çay here in Turkey) any time you want to chat. The same is true with the practising homosexual, the white collar embezzler, the porn addict, the drug dealer, and the gossip. However some person choses to live their life… its their life and I have no problem showing my love and friendship to them even if I might not participate in, or even endorse, their choices.

But is someone wants to get wasted every night and then call themselves a Christian… I want nothing to do with them. If they are Christian and proud. Go somewhere else. If you want to be verbally abusive, or openly cheating on your spouse, or spreading every rumor that finds its way to your ears while pretending to be a faithful follower of Christ… I want no part of it. Either turn around or shut up. Don’t call yourself a part of the spotless pride while gloriously wallowing in the mud. If you are fighting a sin, I will work with you and pray with you and storm heaven’s gates on your behalf. If you are engaging in sin while not claiming to be a Christian I will pray for you and meet with you and storm heaven’s gates on your behalf. But if you call yourself a Christian while proudly holding that God hate’s fags sign, or that rainbow flag… I might still storm heaven’s gates on your behalf but here on earth I will do everything I can to disassociate from you. Westboro Baptist protester, you are not a Christian. Stop lying to yourself and the world. Actively openly proud gay church member, you are not a Christian. Stop lying to yourself and the world.

Many inside the church are very quick to judge society and culture and “the world”. Many in that world and even other Christians are quick to say, “Don’t judge.” We are called to judge, but we are called to judge only those who claim to be part of God’s family. So, judge for yourselves. Am I right on this or am I just a hate filled bigot?

Shirly Phelps-Roper (Yes, WBC, too easy) #fundie ctv.ca

An alert that Public Safety Minister Stockwell Day reportedly sent to Canadian borders guards to bar a controversial U.S. church group from entering Canada didn't block some members from getting in, the group's lawyer claimed Friday.

Shirley Phelps-Roper, the daughter of the founding member of the Westboro Baptist Church, told CTV.ca a group of seven members was turned away when they tried to cross the U.S. border into Canada Thursday night. But she said other members managed to get through at another border crossing, although she would not say how many.

Phelps-Roper and her church have outraged Canadians by planning to protest Tim McLean's funeral. Members of the ultra-conservative Christian church claim McLean, who was decapitated by a fellow-passenger on a Greyhound bus last month, deserved his fate. Although no member of the group ever met McLean, they claim he lived an immoral and godless life, just like all other Canadians.

On Friday, Phelps-Roper said her group will not be stopped from getting its message out, even if only one member makes it to McLean's funeral.

"Don't worry. It won't matter how many people there are. When they get the signs up, they'll (get) the same raging, screaming response," Phelps-Roper said.

Mike King #conspiracy tomatobubble.com

Starting back in 2014, we began noticing more and more requests to post a "Bitcoin" button that would allow readers to donate to TomatoBubble.com with the hot new "crypto-currency" worldwide payment system. Bitcoin and other rapidly emerging cryptos are a form of "decentralized" digital currency, as the system works without a Central Bank or a single administrator.

The Bitcoin network is person-to-person, with transactions between users taking place directly through the use of cryptography only. Bitcoins can be exchanged for other currencies, products, and services. The transactions are automatically verified and recorded in a publicly distributed ledger called a "blockchain."

At first, it seemed like a good way to work around PayPal and fly under the IRS radar, but we just never got around to getting involved because we figured the Feds would eventually catch up to such a "peoples' currency" and shut it down anyway. But now, lo and behold, Bitcoin mania is being heavily promoted by the great and the good of the PRC (Predatory Ruling Class) -- so much so that a single $1 of Bitcoin purchased a few years ago is today worth about $65!

Hyped by the Piranha Press and blessed by the Rothschild Central Banks, digital crypto-currencies -- Bitcoin foremost among them at this time --are exploding in popularity and "value."

Suckers worldwide are now purchasing Bitcoin with credit cards and even home loans (just as in the allegorical story of "The Great Tomato Bubble" (here) for which this site is named). The fact that Wall Street Hedge funds have joined the Globalist media mania bubble of Bitcoin constitutes "prima facie" (a $10 Latin legal term for "first face") evidence that there is a sinister agenda behind these digital currencies. Should there be any lingering doubts over such a suspicion, these headlines ought to dispel them:

Coindesk: (December 17, 2017): 2018: The Year Central Banks Begin Buying Cryptocurrency (here)

CNBC: (December 18, 2017): Central Banks could hold bitcoin and ether for the first time in 2018 (here)

Quartz Index: (September 25, 2017): Central Banks considering launch of official cryptocurrencies (here)

The fix is in, boys and girls. What is the motive here, you ask?

Flashback time:

(February 24, 2016):

Getting Rid of Big Currency Notes Could Help Fight Crime

By ANDREW ROSENTHAL, er "THE EDITORIAL BOARD"

(some excerpts)

As part of his oh-so-high-minded effort to "fight crime", Andrew Rosenthal (cough cough), that shadowy little Wicked Weasel of Oz who styles himself as "The Editorial Board", has come out swinging in favor of former Treasury Secretary Larry Summers (cough cough) recent call to ban the $100 dollar bill. Gotta stop them drug-dealers, eh Andy? (rolling eyes, sarcastically).

This all-of-a-sudden push to ban big bills is a harbinger of the dark days ahead. It's significance is huge -- all the more so now that Rosenfilth of the New York Slimes is pushing it (just days after the Washington Compost came out in favor of the ban as well).

Rosenthal, er, "The Editorial Board":

"Few Europeans use the 500-euro note, and most Americans rarely encounter the $100 bill. Yet hundreds of millions of these notes are in circulation around the world... officials in Europe and elsewhere are proposing to end the printing of high-denomination bills.

Getting rid of big bills will make it harder for criminals to do business ...

The president of the European Central Bank, Mario Draghi, recently said the bank is considering getting rid of the 500-euro note ($557)... though the central bank plans to keep the 200-euro and 100-euro bills.

Critics who oppose such changes say the big bills make it easier for people to keep their savings in cash, especially in countries with negative interest rates. But these are relatively minor burdens compared with the potential benefits of reducing criminal activity and tax evasion.

There are now so many ways to pay for things, and eliminating big bills should create few problems."

PayPal ran a TV commercial during the 2016 Stupor Bowl ---the images and slogans from which speak for themselves. The end game is to kill paper money.

End of flashback excerpt
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The end-game behind the crypto craze is to usher in a GLOBAL digital currency which, in time, will be very much "centralized." In the meantime, this could also be part of a sophisticated CIA money-laundering or "pump & dump" operation.

In the long run, we do not think that the Globalists will be able to pull off such an ambitious leap toward one-world tyranny -- not with Messrs. Putin, Xi and Trump around. But the Central Banksters sure as hell are gonna try when they start issuing their own digital currency, as is expected in 2018. Amazing. Now who, say, 30 years ago, could possibly have envisioned the rise of digital global currency in 2018? Hmmm?

An prophetic excerpt from a 1988 Economist article (as quoted from a 2014 issue of Bitcoin Magazine):

"THIRTY years from now (i.e. 2018), Americans, Japanese, Europeans, and people in many other rich countries, and some relatively poor ones will probably be paying for their shopping with the same currency. Prices will be quoted not in dollars, yen or D-marks but in, let's say, the phoenix. The phoenix will be favored by companies and shoppers because it will be more convenient than today's national currencies, which by then will seem a quaint cause of much disruption to economic life in the last twentieth century.”

“An even more ambitious solution would be to move to a truly global currency, along the lines of Keynes’s “bancor”, that would circulate alongside countries’ own currencies and would offer a store of value truly disconnected from economic conditions and policies in any country.

To achieve this, one would need to set up a global monetary institution that would issue the global currency depending on global economic conditions, and that could act as a global lender of last resort. It would need to have an impeccable (“AAAA”) balance sheet, and governance arrangements that engender widespread credibility and acceptability.”

“As telecommunications technology continues to advance, these transactions will be cheaper and faster still.”

“The phoenix zone would impose tight constraints on national governments. There would be no such thing, for instance, as a national monetary policy. The world phoenix supply would be fixed by a new central bank, descended perhaps from the IMF.

This means a big loss of economic sovereignty, but the trends that make the phoenix so appealing are taking that sovereignty away in any case. (here)

[...]

And by the way, the 2014 Bitcoin Magazine article quoting that 1998 Economist Magazine article, was not citing the old story about one-world currency as a warning. But rather, as a good idea, preferably with Bitcoin serving as the coming world currency, and not necessarily the Economist's "phoenix." The headline and a quote from the Bitcoin piece:

A World Currency – Not a New Idea (February 25, 2014)

"At this point we could be talking about Bitcoin or any new cryptocurrency out there today. Let’s continue as the article talks about what could lead to this “New World Currency”.
Next is a statement that will get the attention of the Bitcoin user. Remember, this was written in January 1988.

'As telecommunications technology continues to advance, these transactions will be cheaper and faster still.'

Here we might still be talking about Bitcoin. ...This 1988 article was obviously ahead of its time. It shows that a new kind of world currency is not a new topic of conversation. And the mention of 2018 looks eerily realistic as we watch things unfold today.(2014) --- (here)


You see, the gift of "prophecy" comes easy when you are the one running the show! There is no doubt about this one, boys and girls. Bitcoin was never a "spontaneous" digital currency of "the people" that just "took off." It has been, from the start, a tool of the usual suspects and the play is only getting started. The year 2018 promises to be very interesting. Stay tuned.

1. Months before "The Good War" had even ended, the post-World War II monetary system was cooked up at Breton Woods by the US Communist Harry Dexter White (cough cough) and the UK Fabian Socialist and the known sodomite John Maynard Keynes. Keynes advocated a world currency, which he named "Bancor," but he realized that the idea was still too radical for those times. 2. Bitcoin Magazine with a "Guy Fawkes" anarchist on the cover? -- A sure sign of a CIA operation. 3. Slime Magazine cleverly hyping Bitcoin as if it were some sort of anti-government uprising of the people -- another sure sign of a CIA operation.
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This just in:

Wall Street Journal: (December 22, 2017)

Bitcoin Plunges 25% in 24 Hours in a Cryptocurrency Market Rout

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Bubble scam profit-taking by the usual suspects? Or maybe the nationalist "White Hats" are nipping the scam in the bud?

Boobus Americanus 1: I read in the New York Times today that Bitcoin is taking the world by storm.

Boobus Americanus 2: I know. I just bought some.

Sugar: Boobuss, my idiot friend -- you'd buy a frickin' dog-sshit ssandwich if the Jew York Slimess declared it to be tasty and nutritiouss.

Editor: (palm to face, sighing, shaking head) --- All you Sugar groupies out there with your sycophantic fan e-mails are the reason why I can't control her anymore.

Hazrat Maulana Ahmad Sadeq Desai #sexist reliablefatwas.com

Among the sweeping allegations of baatil made by a Dr. Hargey is his claim:

“Men and women have identical fundamental rights, with the Qur’an emphasising equality in the spiritual,intellectual, economic and legal areas.”

For this personal view of his, Dr. Hagey is unable to adduce any substantiation from the Qur’aan or Hadith. This view is at variance with the Shariah. Even a cursory glance at the teachings and proofs of the Shariah will establish the fallacy of this claim and make manifest that Dr. Hagey’s opinion is devoid of any Islamic credibility.

In the aforementioned statement, Dr. Hagey has made a sweeping claim without tendering the basis and proof for the claim which is couched in ambiguity. He speaks of “identical fundamental rights” without defining these. He should elaborate and expound his conception of “fundamental rights” so that the fallacy of his arguments in relation to the Shariah will become more vivid to Muslims. Ambiguity is always a cover behind which refuge is sought for unsubstantiated opinions and views.

It is quite a simple matter to launch an attack on the established institutions of Islam by means of high-sounding and ambiguous phrases. But, it is entirely a different matter to define, elaborate and substantiate such claims of baatil as are being traded under the name of islam. To enable us to comment further and in greater detail on this particular opinion of Dr. Hargey, it is necessary that he defines his understanding of “identical fundamental rights”.

In the second part of his claim (cited above), Dr. Hargey attempts to show that according to the Qur’aan men and women enjoy total equality in spiritual, intellectual, economic and legal areas. But, on the contrary the Qur’aan and the Sunnah refute this contention of equality of the sexes, an obsession with the modernists of our time. The following differences or Islamic differences between the sexes will conclusively assert the fallacy of Dr.Hargey’s view.

* According to the Shariah a woman can never be the Imaam in a congregation in which males are present. On the other hand, a man is always the Imaam in any type of congregation.

* If women happen to be performing Salaat in a jamaat in which men are, their position is right at the back–right behind the rows of children.

* When the Imaam in jamaat Salaat makes an error, his attention is drawn to the error my the muqtadis calling out “Subhaanallaah! But, it is not permissible for a woman who happens to be in the congregation to call out Subhaanallaah! to draw the attention of the Imaam. Her voice has to remain concealed.

* Nafl Salaat and Nafl Saum (Fasting) are acts of Ibaadat of very high merit. But, a woman is not permitted to resort to these acts of Ibaadat without the consent of her husband. On the contrary, her husband does not require her permission.

* A woman was never ever appointed a Nabi by Allah Ta’alla. This was the office exclusively of males.

* Juma’ Salaat is compulsory on men, but not on women.

* Eid Salaat is obligatory on men, but not on women.

* Taraaweeh Salaat is Sunnatul Muakkadah in Jamaat for men, but not for women. They are exhorted to perform individually at home.

* According to the Qur’aan Shareef the share of inheritance of a female is half that of the male.

* According to the Qur’aan the testimony (shahaadat) of two women is equivalent to that of one man.

* According to the Qur’aan men possess the right to discipline and punish women, even beating them when necessary while women have no reciprocal rights even if their husbands are in error.

* Men possess the right to administer divorce, not women. Women have no such right. Even khulah (the procedure whereby a woman buys her separation from her husband) is dependent on the acceptance of the husband.

* The husband is entitled to recall his wife after having given one or two talaaq even if the wife does not desire to be reconciled. It is his right to act unilaterily and retake her within the iddat period.

* The testimony of women is not admissable in crimes of the hudood category, e.g. theft, adultery. Even if a thousand pious, honourable and knowledgeable females bear testimony in such crimes, their evidence is not admissable.

These Islamic differences between man and woman are sufficient to highlight the fact that the Shariah distinguishes between the sexes, does not provide for identical rights for men and women and decrees the superiority of man over woman. These differences enumerated here will serve to indicate that the Shariah rejects the views and opinions of Dr.Hargey as blatantly baatil.

Dr. Hargey and other modernists of the same opinions should understand that to force equality between inequals is in fact reprehensible inequality, morally wrong and unjust. The Islamic inequality between man and woman is no insult to womankind. The glowing statements of the Shariah speaking highly of women negate any such charge which the enemies of Islam level.

In simple terms the lesser role lesser resporisibility and lesser rank to woman — a rank in subservience to men – all stem from the natural and inherent spiritual, physical and intellectual quality and condition of women. In these areas Allah Ta’ala has created in man dominance and in women subservience.

This state of affairs has been decreed by the Wisdom of Allah Ta’ala and the opinions of Dr. Hargey will not be able to alter the immutable realities created by Allah Ta’ala. Nor does the Ummah require or desire the personal opinions and views of doctors of philosophies, for the path and direction of the Ummah of Islam have already been fixed fourteen centuries ago. And that Path is the Path propagated by the Ulama-e-Haqq – the Path in which great emphasis is and will always be placed on “ritual and externals”, on dress codes” and codes of Islam which Hargey has branded as “empty observances”. May Allah Ta’ ala protect the Imaan of all Believers.

Malachi Z. York #racist chatwiththegods.com

I NOTICE YOU CALLED US A NATION. WE ARE NOT A NATION WE ARE A TRIBE OF NUWAUPIANS OUR UNITED NATION IS AFRICA I PREFER TO CALL NEGROIDLAND ( LAND OF BLACKS ) BECAUSE THE ARABIANS CALLED IT AFRICA WHICH IN THEIR TONGUE MEANS SEPARATE FROM ROOT WORD FARRAQ TO SEPARATE, DIVIDE. LIKE MIN. FARAKHAN NAME. AND HIS TEACHINGS DOES CALL AFRICAN SAVAGES. HMMM. AND HIS VERSION OF ALLAH IS A ARABIAN ACCORDING TO THEM HMMM. WELL I LIKE TO USE THE GREEK WORD CHRISTIAN BIBLE ACTS 13:1 IT READ K.J.V

NOW THERE WERE IN THE CHURCH THAT WAS AT ANTIOCH “ TURKEY ” CERTAIN PROPHETS AND TEACHERS AS BARNABAS AND SIMEON THAT WAS CALLED NIGER # 3526. ??y?? = NEEG-ER NIGER
FROM LATIN “ROMANS” BLACK SO THIS WAS A BLACKMAN A NEGRO. NEGROID YET HE WAS A PROPHET AND TEACHER NOW WHEN YOU LOOK IN THE ARABIC BIBLE ACT 13:1 OR YOU READ THIS FOR NIGER IN PART AL ASWAD YUDÀY ALLZHIY SIMÀANU WA THE BLACK MAN HE IS CALLED HE WHO SIMEON AND RIGHT THEIR IN THEIR BIBLE THE COLOUR BLACK AL ASWAD AS YOU SEE IT’S THE SAME WORD FOR SUDAN LAND OF BLACKS SO ITS CLEAR.

I CALLED AFRICA NEGROIDLAND. I CALL US NEGROIDS THE WORD NIGGER, NEGRO DON’T MEAN A THING WHEN YOU POINT OUT IN THEIR OWN BIBLE ITS USED FOR AN BLACKMAN WHO WAS A PROPHET AND TEACHER. AND REMEMBER ANTIOCH IS A MUSLIM COUNTRY “ TURKEY ” AND THE FIRST PLACE THE NAME CHRISTIAN WAS EVER USED ACTS 11:26. SO ITS CLEAR HE WAS ONE WHO HELP NAME THIS NEW JEWISH SECT CHRISTIANS OR THOSE WHO FOLLOWED A MAN NAMED BY SOME CHRIST NOW BEING THEY WERE SPEAKING NOT GREEK BUT GALATIAN. OF GALILEE THEN WHAT WERE THEY REALLY CALLED BEFORE THE BIBLE WAS TRANSLATED TO LATIN AND THEN GREEK. FOLLOWS OF A MESSIAH OR MASHIAKH, MASIH, ITS ALL A PLAY ON WORDS.

IN TIME THEY WILL REGARD CANAANITES OR BEING CALLED CANAANITES, CAINITES AS JUST AS BAD AS BEING CALLED NIGGER. BECAUSE AS WU-NUWAUPU SPREADS WORLD WIDE AND PEOPLE RELATE THE MARK ON CAIN AS ALBINISM AND THE CURSE ON CANAAN AS LEPROSY AND THEN LOOK IN THEIR BIBLE LEV. CHAPTER 13 AND OTHER PLACES THEY WILL SEE THE CURSE OF CANAAN GEN 9:25 AS THEIR OWN RACE. THEY WON’T LIKE IT. YET ITS A LITTLE TO LATE FOR THAT NOW. THEIR RAPTURE OR IS IT RAPTURS HAS COME FOR THE SUPPER OF THE LAMBS. OR AS THE ANUNNAKI CALLED THEM LULU AMELU. WORKER LAMBS, GOATS. SAD BUT TRUE THEY WERE ALWAYS BEING BREAD FOR FOOD. JUST AS THEY DID THE WILD BOAR TO THE DOMESTIC PIG. THEY WERE GRAFTED WITH SIMIAN = HOMO SIMIANS YOU CAN SEE IT IN THEIR FACE AND EARS. AS WELL AS CANINE = HOMO CANINE YOU ALSO SEE THIS WITH THEIR BODY FUR AND CANINE TEETH AND LOVE OF RED MEAT AND THE SOW = HOMO-SOW YOU SEE THIS IS COLOUR OF SKIN AND MANY OTHER TRAITS.

YOU READ IN THE MUSLIMS QURAAN IT SAYS CHAPTER 18 THEY LIVED IN CAVES WITH DOGS 18:18, 22 AND IN ANOTHER PLACE CHANGED THEM INTO SWINE AND APES QURAAN 2:65 THEY WERE GRAFTED WITH SWINE, DOGS, AND MONKEYS. THAT'S WHY YOU SEE, RE-SPECT OR RE-SPEC THEM AND YOU CAN SEE IT. AND TO THIS DAY CAUCASOIDS EAT MONKEY MEAT, PIG MEAT, AND DOG MEAT UP IN EUROPE THIS WAS ORDERED THEM SO THEY COULD EXCHANGE BODY PARTS WITH PIG AND SUFFER REJECTION. AS WELL AS DRINKING LOTS OF BEER, COFFEE, AND SMOKING TOBACCO, AND SO MUCH MORE THEIR ELOHIM, AALIHAAT, EL, ALLAH. WHO ARE CHERUBIM, ANAKIM, ANUNNAKI - U-SHAM GAL BLOOD LUSTING REPTILIANS WHO EAT FLESH LOOK AT GEN 18:1-8 THEIR GOD ATE FLESH AND BLOOD MEAT.

NOW GO BACK READ GENESIS 8:22-24 LIKED THE SMELL OF COOKING FLESH. NOW LOOK AT GENESIS 18:13-14 THIS SAME FLESH EATING GOD, LORD, JAH, YAHWEH, RABB. THIS SAME ONE WHO GAVE THEM A SON DID WHAT IN GENESIS 22:2 ASKED ABRAHAM TO OFFER HIM, TO COOK HIM, WHAT DO YOU THINK A BURNT OFFERING IS COOKED FLESH, THAT TO HIM SMELLS GOOD COOKING. SO HE WAS GOING TO EAT ABRAHAMS SON. HE WAS REPLACED WITH A RAM TO EAT. I COULD GO ON AND ON ITS RIGHT THERE IN FRONT OF THEM.

WHY WELL READ GENESIS 3:15 NOW GO BACK TO GENESIS 3:14 WHAT WILL THE SERPENT REPTILIAN EAT. IT SAY DUST. NOW AND LOOK AT GENESIS 4:19. WHAT IS ADAM AND EVE MADE OF. RIGHT DUST. SO WHAT AND WHO WILL THEY EAT. I SAID TOO MUCH FOR NOW THE GREAT AND, WHAT. RIGHT DREADFUL DAY. WHY BECAUSE THEY ALL WILL DREAD EVER WORSHIPING THESE GODS. WHEN THEY SEE THEIR ON THE MEN-U.

Mike Bird #fundie patheos.com

Answering President Jed Bartlet on the Bible and Sexuality

I have been very gradually working my way through The West Wing, currently up to Season 2 and I just saw this epic scene where President Jed Bartlett lays into some conservative Christian radio show host for her views about homosexuality.

I’ve heard this line of argument several times, it latches onto something genuinely problematic which most Christians have a hard time explaining, so I thought it might be a good idea to offer my own response to President Jed Bartlet:

Dear President Bartlet,

Sir, I just saw your rather dramatic lambasting of Dr. Jenna Jacobs for her views on homosexuality. You speak with great passion and conviction on the subject and are rightly concerned that pious people will use religious texts as a license to treat LGBT persons with hatred and indifference. I sincerely appreciate that concern and I applaud it.

As a biblical scholar myself I have to confess that I was seriously impressed with your ability to recall biblical passages from the Pentateuch by memory. You are obviously a veteran of a very rigorous Sunday School program and you can recall Scripture with a precision that would leave many rabbis envious of your abilities. You obviously have spent a lot of time reading the Bible and you take it very seriously. I appreciate that too.

Let me say also that I don’t know Dr. Jacobs, I don’t listen to her show, I have no desire to defend her as I imagine that she and I probably do not see eye to eye on social issues and how to express a Christian view point about them. Still, I do wonder if you gave a Christian view of the Bible and sexuality a fair go, at least as a biblical theologian might express them.

The problem is that you are right, there are some very strange prohibitions in the Bible about combining fabrics together, planting crops side by side, laws pertaining to slavery, and stoning the less scrupulously observant of religion. The Old Testament contains things that are not only weird, but look callous and cruel even to those brought up with a deep reverence for the Bible.

Sir, I do not presume to lecture you on matters of religion, but it seems to me like you want to say in effect, “You believe what the Old Testament says about homosexuality, so then, do you believe all the crazy rules and regulations in the Old Testament too?” That is a good question and such a question requires an obvious “no,” since Christians themselves would concur that they are not bound to obey all the Old Testament regulations. But the matter I wish to press Mr. President is that you have overlooked how Christians read the Old Testament as Scripture and how they use Scripture to construct their own mode of moral discourse.

Please indulge me for a few short moments Mr. President in the hope that I can illuminate your understanding of the Bible and help you better appreciate how Christians use the Bible in their moral reasoning.

First, the Old Testament regulations were for a specific moment in Israel’s history and are not prescriptive for all time. The purpose of the law was to equip the Israelites to survive in the harsh context of the ancient near east. To tease that our further, the purpose of the law was to protract Israel’s capacity to worship God, to cocoon God’s purposes around Israel, to keep the Israelites separate from the peoples of Canaan, to teach Israel about human sin and divine holiness, and to point to the messianic deliverer whom God would send in the future. Many of these laws are not ideal (such as divorce as Jesus himself taught), other laws are a liberalization of ancient practices but still not particularly pleasant (like the treatment of slaves), many laws are related to the specific context of the ancient near east (like inter-tribal warfare), and several laws censure things that seem odd to us like consuming blood (because of its link to pagan worship). So, even from a Christian perspective, we have to say that Old Testament laws were a survival measure in a hostile environment, they were addressing cultures as they were rather than how they might be, they were incremental attempts to bring light to a world that was brutal and dark, and the laws were preparatory for something better rather than final. These laws might be God’s first word on how human should live before him, but they were certainly not the last word either.

Second, the Old Testament is strictly speaking not prescriptive for Christian ethics. That is not because the Old Testament is a bad thing that has been done away with, but because it is a good thing that has been fulfilled by Jesus Christ. I would suggest that the basis of Christian ethics is largely three things: (1) The example of Jesus and the apostles; (2) The teachings of Jesus and the apostles; and (3) Life in the Spirit. The Old Testament Law then is not the constitution for a Christian society, not the content of Christian ethics, nor the catalyst for Christian social reform. Instead, the Law is more like a consultant for Christian beliefs, embodying a form of wisdom on how to fear the Lord, how to walk in his ways, and how to love him. We are not bound to its letter, but we ignore its teachings to the peril our own spiritual ignorance.
Third, if the Old and New agree on one thing, it is this: the supremacy of love. Both Testaments agree that love of God and love of neighbour are the core concerns and truest teachings of Law. We read the commands: “Love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength” (Deut 6:5) and similarly “love your neighbor as yourself” (Lev 19:18). This is precisely what Jesus himself argued according to the Evangelists where Jesus said: “’Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments” (Matt 22:37-40). Even the Apostle Paul, though often maligned for his views of women and homosexual behavior, said: “For the entire law is fulfilled in keeping this one command: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself’” (Gal 5:14).

When it comes to the issue of sexuality and marriage, Christians should not rush to Leviticus or Deuteronomy searching for proof texts for their beliefs. The first thing to note is that Genesis teaches that God made men and women in his image, and that marriage is rooted in a sexual ecology of the complementarity of men and women oriented towards the creation of a family (Gen 1:26-28). What is more, this is something that Jesus affirmed (Mark 10:6-9). On top of that, there are prescriptions about homosexual acts outside Leviticus made by the Apostle Paul (Rom 1:26-27; 1 Cor 6:9; 1 Tim 1:10). And while these prescriptions are disputed – are they only about pederasty, an aggressive bi-sexuality, excessive lust, or limited to cultic prostitution – generally they are regarded by most scholars as censuring homoerotic behavior. Of course, if you think Jesus and Paul were just wrong and you care to disagree with them, that is fine, but please understand that that is not an attractive option for those of us who wish to affirm what our own tradition teaches on marriage and sexuality.

Mr. President, at the end of the day Christian ethics are based on love not law: love for God and love for our neighbors. Christians, within the precincts of their own consciences, cannot affirm behavior that they believe Scripture prohibits. The wisdom of our tradition is that sexuality is a gift from God, leading us to affirm celibacy in singleness and faithfulness in marriage. Yet because of the command to love their neighbours, you can expect Christians to always treat people, irrespective of gender, race, religion, and sexual orientation, with compassion and dignity, as we ourselves would want to be treated. If you wish to wag a finger at Christians for their hypocrisy, and I hope you do, citing texts from Leviticus is probably not the best way to do that. Much better is to accuse Christians of not keeping Jesus’ commands to love their gay neighbor, point out that they have not followed Jesus’ example to welcome those who polite society has rejected, and they have not embraced the lost for whom Jesus said he came to save! That is a word of rebuke Christians need to hear time and again.

That is my two cents on the matter Sir. I wish you all the best in the coming election season.

PS, watch out for that Jeff Haffley guy, he’s a sly old critter!

Christopher Leonid #sexist returnofkings.com

The Mainstream Embrace Of #MeToo Puts Us One Step Closer Towards The Enslavement Of Men

Defining male agency during the collapse of the Sexual Revolution.

The progenitors of the #MeToo meme have been elevated to that dubious plinth of social endorsement, the cover of Time magazine.

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#Iwouldnt

These women did not “launch a movement.” However, the current wreaths-to-laurels victimhood craze does bear out the completion of an important cultural cycle.

Free Love Wasn’t Free

A core premise of our sexual dystopia is:

‘My body my choice.’

Within the bounds of legality, we are supposed to believe that neither sex is more damaged by their coital decisions than the other. The retro-active outrage now mounted by women at men on account of mutually consensual sexual intercourse (and calls for the bounds of legality to be shifted accordingly), reiterates that this is not actually the case.

The struggle of many a post-prime girl for exclusivity with a series of increasingly inferior suitors, must be a brutal way to discover that it is still impossible to raise a joyridden car back to its factory-new price.

Men are checking out of monogamous commitment, leaving two generations of women wandering a widening bimbo-limbo between settled life either as a housewife or denizen of the increasingly cash-strapped welfare state (the overwhelmingly administrative sector jobs provided to ‘career women’ being a manifestation of the latter).

As an institution, marriage is only debased further by social and legal efforts to enforce commitment from men to polygamous women who spent their bloom years in promiscuity. Although such an iniquitous contract could be excused by a myriad of exceptional circumstances, the unprecedented glut of women beneath the male investment threshold turn the exceptions into clichés.

The Gynocentric Interpretation

A defining characteristic of corporate and clickbait discourse is the effort to sublimate readers’ frustration into outrage while bypassing the question of accountability. Time and others are now under huge pressure to find mythologies to both explain the dissatisfaction of their female readership and serve as the basis for corrective political action. Someone must be to blame for their problems; anyone but themselves.

What Time has produced is a fairy tail without a prince. It begins:

‘Movie stars are more like you and me than we ever knew.’

We are then introduced to a wide range of women who were:

‘brought together by a common experience.’

They were actually brought together by Time, at great expense, to confirm the biased premise of their leading article. Time then chews over each of these women’s testimonies, droning on and on and on in a tantric, mantric, incuntation of its utterly banal and predictable conclusion:

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Time have revealed their straw man – and he’s called Donald Trump.

I suspect that the feminist Trump-tantrum is not caused by Trump per se, but by the part of American society which voted him into office. It’s an important distinction because it means that, as a political instrument, Trump is needed the most by the very people who like him least. Without Trump, the outrage would be revealed for what it truly is: a million personal vendettas against a million brash, powerful and wealthy American men who these women consentingly gave their bodies to.

Trump’s appeal to the free market and private capital (as well as the string of hot women who have let him ‘grab ‘em by the poosy’), is more than just a refusal to push the envelope on welfare policies which enable sexual liberation—it is an exposition of the gulf between what is conventionally true and what is actually true about modern female sexual opportunism.

The self-deception may be genuine, but was revealed nonetheless when #metoo was triggered by the loss of societal contingency plans to ensure female sexual freedom (alpha fucks and beta bucks), by constraining that of men. The fat child screams not while it is happily eating itself to death but when the cookies are taken away.

[Video titled "Satan leaves a woman's soul as Trump is sworn in"]

Feminism’s Finale

The premise of #metoo has now been twisted by various degrees to its own complete inversion. Nearly a year ago, I was told by a County Court in Britain that I owed money to a woman whose sexual advances I had gently rebuffed some years before. Neither I nor the court had any idea why I owed her money or what her claim was, but I still had to defend myself.

A case that would never have come to trial twenty years ago dragged out for months as she gradually patched together a claim (without evidence), which gradually escalated to an allegation of sexual abuse.

My trial was the direct result of her assumption that society would stand behind her in extracting resources from the man of her choosing. I was lucky that she had a legal history of ‘choosing’ other men before me, and the judge sent her howling from the courtroom.

But what if I had been her first shot? What if she’d gone to the Crown Prosecution Service?

I add, for the sake of completeness, that I am a strict adherent of pre-marital abstinence and, in the case of this particular woman, had never kissed, hit on, made a pass at, nor been in any form of romantic relationship with her. #Iwouldnt—and that is precisely what enraged her.

Let the irony of this case serve as an illustration of the extent to which feminine imperatives can now be exercised to strong-arm men into compliance. If you have earned a #metoo assertion like I did, you’re probably doing something right.

What for men in 2018?

The dregs of women will always preen their sexual worthiness in a sensational light by announcing that a man once made an unwanted pass at them, just as feminist Phrynes like Emma Watson will always lend a pretty face to their ugly cause (phoney outrage is her profession’s prerogative. I bear her no grudge).

Our toxic tributary of sexual realism to the mainstream discussion sees the feminist victimbragging for what it really is: another attempt to circumvent rational analysis and keep society plugging the feminist narrative. Soon, #metoo will become as passé as ‘Trump Bedroom Backlash,’ but these phenomena are mere symptoms of a deeper social condition.

As private debt piles up and resources cease to flow, society will have to find new ways of demanding that men judiciously restrain their own behaviour on behalf of the unfettered dualistic sexual strategy of women—sexy badboys and stable providers stepping up and down as and when women demand it. The contradictory messages that this sends to men are now compounded by the constant possibility of being criminalised for making a faux pas.

Today, as trials move from the courtroom to the press and to Twitter and Facebook, the degree of kafkaesque reassurance that I had—the basic certainty that I was on trial—is starting to ebb away. A lot of men who don’t grasp the underlying biomechanics behind the sexual victimhood phenomenon are doomed to be spirited on a windowless train of THOT thought from false premise to final solution: their enslavement to women, either directly or via the state.

The chaotic disconnect between the claim and the truth is not a means to an end but the end itself. This climate of fear is the West’s way of forcing the marriage of mankind to womankind, joylessly mandating social responsibilities without providing any privilege. The carrot has gone from the sexual contract and only the stick remains.

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It can still be a beautiful life for men who don’t answer to society. Careful though, the beta version of this man is Smeagol Gollum.

The harder men try to opt out of commitment to women, the stronger the social effort will be to drive them back, until escape from women will turn into escape from society itself.

The Rev. William H. Grimes, “Sermon 10” #fundie simplychristian.referata.com

Sermon 10: ME!

By The Rev. William H. Grimes

“This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God.”- 2 Thessalonians 3:1-4

There’s this new song out there, aptly called “ME!” It’s by the wicked harlot Taylor Swift and sodomite Brandon Urie of “Panic at the Disco” fame. The song is Swift and Urie boasting that one will never find another like them, “you’ll never find another like ME!!!!!” How wicked! Such arrogance and narcissism that is absolutely abominable in the sight of the Living God!!!!! SUCH IS AN ABSOLUTELY WRETCHED ABOMINATION UNTO OUR LORD AND SAVIOR! MERE MAN IS NOT SO GREAT TO BE UTTERLY UNIQUE! SAY AMEN IN THE HOUSE OF THE LIVING GOD!!! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

One of the lyrics is “you can’t spell awesome without me!” This is vanity and ungodly reprehensible tackiness if I’ve ever heard it. Why does Urie insist upon worshiping himself instead of Christ?! He’d probably be engaging in bedroom conduct with Swift as well if it wasn’t clear that he is a sodomite! Taylor Swift is a sodomite but she’s a bisexual woman who’s engaged in sinful conduct such as lesbianism with Karlie Kloss and that other pompous woman who cannot wear modest apparel as the Apostle Paul said!

Apparently Swift also decided to become a drag king for this video!!!! SHE WAS WEARING A SUIT AND TIE AND WAS HAVING SLICKED BACK SHORT HAIR! DEUTERONOMY 22:5 SAITH NO WOMAN SHALT WEAR THE GARMENT OF A MAN! THAT IS ABOMINABLE IN THE SIGHT OF THE LIVING GOD!!!! YEEEEEEEEEEEOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWW!!!!

Look, this filth is infiltrating the minds of the masses! This music video broke the record number of views in the first 24 hours on YouTube! No more! We need to just listen to good old fashioned Baptist hymns and reject pop music and rap and country and western and rock and roll!!!!!! IT IS ABSOLUTELY VILE SEWAGE AND DOES NOT HELP YOU GET RIGHT WITH ALMIGHTY GOD! God’s people said AMEN!

James Matthew Wilson #fundie newputneydebates.tumblr.com

The worst instinct of liberal democracy, its elevation of the expression of the individual human will to the one remaining sacred good, has thoroughly triumphed. It has reformed from within Christian and religious life along the lines of Moralistic Therapeutic Deism (MTD), where religion is reduced to a therapeutic servicing of our sense of “well being.” It has formed society most prominently through the sexual revolution, where fertility, monogamy, marriage, and now the distinction between man and woman are all to be redefined to conform to whatever so-and-so happens to desire today. Less obviously, but no less consequentially, it has transformed how we educate our children (to acquire means to exercise their will rather than to know what is true, good, and beautiful); how we spend our time (consuming blue light from screens); how we interact with one another (poorly); and how we interact with the natural world (with a mixture of avarice and guilt and seldom with a sense that we are a good part of it ordained to its just rule).

Whether we approve these changes or see them as diabolical, we are part of the society in which they are taking place. Should Christians seek to shore up or gain control of the mechanisms of power of that society? Will that better enable them to practice a good way of life and pass it on to their children and grandchildren? Or is it rather the case that the liberal order has advanced so far in its secular voluntarism that we would better spend our lives entering more consciously into our religious practices, seeking to deepen and renew them all the better to resist their deformation by the corrupt fancies of our age?

Dreher’s answer to these questions is a qualified one. Because orthodox Christians are intrinsically a part of the broader society, they have no choice but to influence its institutional life as best they can, but the forces arrayed against them are rich, formidable, and bloodthirsty. The Christian right has largely failed to redirect our culture after forty years of trying; we will be fortunate now to hold the opposition at bay—and this we must do. Dreher sees, rightly, that the powerful “liquid” liberalism of our age would not be so great if Christians had more truly rallied to Maritain’s vision nearly a century ago to purify the sources of our religious devotion and to renew our political lives so that they conform to and aid our vocation to the knowledge and love of God. Because the times are less propitious now, Dreher summons us to follow the example of the Benedictines, to conceive of new “rules” or disciplines by which we may live so that our days are shaped primarily by our perception of God as our good rather than by the fluid, insidious influences of the mainstream culture.

WeRe Bank #conspiracy #crackpot #mammon werebank.co.uk

As we approach Spring 2017, ReMovement, in association with WeRe Bank, is proud to introduce “The Lazarus Taxon”. Simply put this means the reintroduction of an idea, within a genetic lineage, which was thought to be extinct BUT then “mysteriously” Re-Occurs, is Re-Born or is Re-Instated – seemingly back from the dead, so to say!

“The criminal and unlawful position held by The European Central Bank has been terminated as of immediate effect. The Federal Reserve Bank of New York,The Exchange Stabilization Fund, The Bank of England and the Bank for International Settlements have all been stood down too. WeRe Bank has assumed the ReSponsibility for the ReStoration of the peoples Sovereign Money supply back to them, and for freeing world populations from debt slavery and become The Central Banks Central Bank. It has ReTurned the money supply back to the people. It introduces several important steps from January 2017 – QEP – Quantitive Easing for the People, TARP2 – Toxic Asset RePurchase for the People, and the introduction of a fully spendable world/planetary monetary unit called the ReSDR – A RePlacement of the IMF’s intended One World Currency.”

“WeRe Bank is acting under Divine Spiritual Mandate. It is now issuing the PlanetRe Sovereign Unit of Money– (PReSUM) – to prevent you from suffering undue distress, harm and financial trauma throughout the imminent financial, currency market collapse and demonetization saga, engineered for you by the banking cartels and globalist elites, scheduled to take place sometime between 2018/2020, though it could be triggered sooner.”


WeRe Bank offers four injunctions for members to now adopt as we move forward and they are enunciated simply as follows:

– LET’S OUTLAW FINANCIAL SLAVERY-

Under the banner headline of:

“Aren’t you fed up with the constant hassle of never having enough of anything left at the end of every month?”

“Aren’t you “tired of being tired” due to too much work, zero hours contracts, not enough time, constant threats, coercion, duress, bullying  and the use of force, harassment and intimidation to extract money from you by the greedy privateer corporations, police authorities, speed camera and parking agencies, taxation authorities, local councils, bailiffs, debt collection agencies and Court Enforcement Officers and HMRC or IRS?”

“Are you not “fed up to the back-teeth” with the constant lies of politicians and governmental “juiced in” politicians assuring you that there “just isn’t any more money for the public services, the NHS, the roads, schools, students, or you and your family” when there sure as hell seems to be no shortage for “them and theirs” and their HS2 vanity projects?”

Well, if you ARE fed up with all this – we have some very good news for you!

The WeRe Bank “lawful and legal tender” account provides you with

ASSURED DEBT ERADICATION

on all your “falsely attached” “PUBLIC SIDE LEDGER LIABILITIES” including but not limited to:

CAR LOANS

FUEL PAYMENTS

ROAD TAX

BANK LOANS

MORTGAGE REPAYMENTS

BANKRUPTCY SETTLEMENTS

MORTGAGE ARREARS

CREDIT AGREEMENTS

CREDIT CARD RE-PAYMENTS

STUDENT LOANS

CREDIT CARD ARREARS

COUNCIL TAX

TV LICENCE

H.M.R.C – VAT, TVA, MWST, PAYE, SA, FINES

COURT FINES – ANY DEMAND FOR PAYMENT FROM H.M. Courts & Tribunals

SHERIFF OR BAILIFF ORDERS/WARRANTS FOR MONETARY ORDERS

SPEEDING FINES, PARKING TICKETS – ANY POLICE ENFORCEMENT ORDERS

VEHICLE, TRACTOR, MACHINERY CREDIT REPAYMENTS

PROBATE DEBTS – FAMILY ESTATE

UTILITIES – GAS, WATER, ELECTRIC, TELECOMS

WeRe Bank offers not only non-scrip, monetary unit of account or cheque book money but hopefully,as from Summer 2017, scrip as well as a card payment facility. It is, a provider  of finality of settlement under common law on the spot of time for all private, PUBLIC and commercial transactions.

WeRe Bank does NOT recognise as an OBLIGATION the PUBLIC side of any liability created against you since in 1931 in the United Kingdom, 1933 in the United States of America and globally from 22 July 1944 – when all global inhabitants and sovereign beings had the ability to pay in lawful money taken from them by various bankster invasions based on the way that the money supply had been used historically.

From this point on you were FORCED from the private side to THE PUBLIC SIDE OF THE ACCOUNT and made to accept a fiat currency created by criminal banksters using Fractional Reserve Lending, usurious practices, deception, guile and trickery to steal the energy wealth from you.

You were convinced to accept worthless money, the CENTRAL BANKERS PROMISSORY NOTE for the promise/lie of further wealth somewhere, somehow and at some time in the future in return for going without in the moment of now.

SECURITY

WeRe Bank has infinite energy supply based on access to the Universal Supply of Energy [USE]

WeRe Bank will accept a promissory note from you to help you begin to understand the simplicity of a system of monetary exchange whereby you can trade energy (your own freely and independently given) for goods and services. In effect all that WeRe bank does is allow you to become your OWN BANKER in return for a membership fee to ReMovement. It is ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY THAT YOU JOIN WITH US TO DO IT, though you may ask: “Well, why don’t I just do it then myself?”

The reason you MUST JOIN through us is that on your own you will be scooped up and destroyed by the forces reigned against you – after all STRENGTH IS UNITY AND UNITY IS STRENGTH.

By exposing the trickery, deceit and lies which have been sold to you – as a star/shetar

So   ZIONIST BANKERS = PHANTOM ENERGY SUPPLY VAMPIRES = GOVERNMENT = CORPORATIONS AND MILITARY = MILITARY – MASONS – MONARCHY – MAYHEM – MONEY – M PEOPLE – MURDER

There is natural law and there is corporate law. There is private law and there is Administrative Law. The trick is here – which jurisdiction do they have you in? For example do you know what the word “ground” means? You talk of buying a piece of “ground” or having “feet on the ground” or entering in Germany, Austria and France your land or property real estate into or onto the “Ground Book” (Grund Buch). Well, ground is “land under water!” as in to “run aground in a ship. So the next time you hear someone talking of “ground rent” etc then you know you are firmly under water and NOT on the Land you thought!

There is the International Law of The Sea and The National Law of The Land. All of us have been tricked into performing under “spurious contractual laws” via The Laws of The Sea, Maritime Law and Admiralty Law – These are war powers acts and are for pirates.

Your natural state of being-ness is of man/woman “on the land under common natural law.” This is a law of sovereignty. It is NOT a law of democracy or majority or mob rule – for if it was and 51% of your community decided they wanted to eat you then they could, could they not! And justify it too!

All corporations – Including for sure The Police, HM Revenue and Customs, HM Courts and Tribunals Services, The Law Society and The Government and The Local Authorities are all culpable of the following offences:

Any name written in CAPITALS CAN BE ONLY ONE OF TWO THINGS

A CORPORATION or

JOHN ADAMS R.I.P = A dead man’s (e)state

So – If anyone tries to force you off land and onto the High Seas then this is called inland piracy or “press ganging” and is a criminal offence as is “personage and “barratry!” Press-ganging is slavery and is banned by all signatories to the Universal Declaration of Human Rights Article 4 – With the caveat of “beware of referring to yourself as or classing yourself as a “person.”

Article 6 stipulates that: “Everyone has the right to recognition everywhere as a person before the law”.

Ergo, which also means that “if you do NOT wish to exercise said right then you can remain a “non-person!” “non-resident alien”. This means that you can opt in or opt out – the only difference is that one requires AWARENESS – the other IGNORANCE! Most people have opted in and not even realized it!”

Have you also been tricked into accepting “services” from “privateer corporations” acting under licence from The Crown (Rome) and The crown (Monarchy) via The Global Trust? If you are accepting any of the services mentioned below AND PAYING FOR THEM then the answer is almost certainly “Yes!”

This GLOBALIST TRUST operates the following services:

Postal Services via Postal Districts and Post Offices – Law of the Sea – Roads all leading from the ports to your door – implied right of access, hence Admiralty Law and Law Merchant. No taxed or non-insured cars on the roads are seized under Admiralty Law

Legal Services of the various Bar Associations  especially Court buildings – Located when possible near to canals, rivers or on streets with such names as Canal Street, Riverside Road.

Banking and Shipping Insurance Services and Standards via Banking & Insurance Associations

Domestic Police Services – In effect corporate security men

Medical and Welfare Services

Insurance Services

Defence and Treaty Alliance Services

The PlanetReServe© Currency of Choice for all free and sovereign beings budded on this planet and payable for work at Re12 per hour – ReTime = Exchangeable for food, goods and services anywhere, anytime and by anyone! The absolute priority now is for all staple food products, utilities and accommodation as well as all additional living expenses be paid for with Re. Since the beginning of 2017 there are now two identifiable monetary units within WeRe Bank – One in the ReSDR payable and receivable in £/$/€/CHF and the second is ReWork earned at Re12.00 the hour. Both are called Re. On your account they are cloured ReSDR in green and ReWork in red

It is now time, following the recent attempts to derail this most needed humanitarian project, to begin the 3rd phase of change. These phases are:

Was the introduction of a chequing facility and DEBT ERADICATION SERVICE PREDICATED UPON THE ABSOLUTE AND UNQUESTIONABLE – (IN ANY COMMERCIAL, LAWFUL OR BANKING ARENA ON THIS PLANET) – OF THE VALIDITY OF THE PROMISSORY NOTE TO ZERO DEBT – in order to show people that they WeRe the bankers themselves and it was THEY who created the money supply and not a bank. It was there also to show the nature of the extent of dishonour within the system of money supply, the collusion by the banking cartel as well as the “system of financial apartheid” levelled at anyone or thing expounding “change for the better!”

This prompted the question:

“With so many people in debt, with so many starving and with such inequity in this world – why on earth would the exponents of such as system mouth continually that it was the only system available and the “choice of the people?”

Why would anyone listen to these rogues? Why never enough for us but excess for them? Well, they continued to ReFuse to listen and so we moved onto….

Was the introduction of the LLT – Lawful and Legal Tender in order to show that with the YALTA 1, YALTA 2 and YALTA BITESIZE documents that there was no doubt at all who was paying the planetary bills and who was the “Guarantor and Surety” for all the debt incurred by rogue moneyed interests upon the planet. As expected they continued to ReFuse to listen and so that FUSE has now been lit for…

Is the introduction of The PlanetRePayment©Card as well as WeRe Bank Notes as SCRIP and the full commercial acceptability and announcement of the absolute necessity to now begin to trade in Re and ReSDR. The absolute priority now is for all staple food products, utilities and accommodation as well as all additional living expenses be paid for with Re/ReSDR.

WeRe Bank now trades in Sterling, Dollar and Euro etc on the PUBLIC SIDE of the Trust but in Re on the private sovereign side. This allows for immense flexibility.

The UNIT of MONETARY VALUE is the Re and the ReSDR.
ReSDR 1.00 is equal to 1.00 £/$/€/CHF Fiat for the purposes of the card transactions.


However, you should note that we DO NOT exchange fiat currency for ReSDR – WE TRANSMUTE IT! There is no correspondence between our accepting your fiat currency and the issuing of ReSDR. The issuance of ReSDR is TOTALLY AT OUR DISCRETION AND NOT DEPENDENT UPON OR A FUNCTION OF YOUR SUPPLYING CASH/NOTES/OR VALUE TO WeRe Bank.

As ReSDR is NOT currently recognised as a monetary unit by any of the Central Banks – it is therefore immune from taxation and financial surveillance by the “other side” – the Zionist corporatocracy and banking state cartels.

We would suggest that you place a minimum onto your card of ReSDR120.00. This will currently cost you €/£/$100.00. With 20% shop discount then this will mean at least 40% increase in spending power JUST BY CHOOSING TO SPEND IN ReSDR as opposed to Euro (€) £/$/€/CHF etc
When you ReLoad your card you will informed what the current TRANSMUTATION OFFERED RATE (TOR) is. January/February 2017 it will remain at 1:1


ReWork 12 is paid to ANYONE, ANYWHERE, ANYTIME for 1 hour of work.

Re1 = 5 minutes. It is totally “fungible”, fair, transparent, equitable and equal to and for all people!” – ReGardless.

So whether you are a doctor, dentist, mechanic, vet or engineer Re12 covers it all. Those who protest that this is, “Not enough!” then this argument can be easily countermanded by those in the regions of the world, the majority in fact, where 80% of the people on this planet exist on less than $2 per day. They will provide a very good counter argument against those in the “effluent” West who mouth: “Give us more! Give them less!”

Re has been declared a ReServe Currency Unit of Choice for all freedom seeking men, women in and associated movements worldwide. The nature of fear, control, superstition, ignorance and lack must now be brought to an end.

The Bridge Zone Project provides the PlanetRe payment mechanics of a card loaded with Re to trade planet wide. This allows you to walk the bridge to the other side where freedom awaits..

CARDS AND NOTES

LLT’s AND CHEQUES ARE SERVING THEIR PURPOSE – CONTINUE TO USE THEM CONTINUE TO TRUST IN THEM

These have served us well and accomplished exactly what was intended BUT they are soon to be supplanted with SCRIP IN FULL DENOMINATIONS of Re 3, 6, 12, 24 and 60 notes – as Lawful Tender.

The LLT Notes are already in the hands of many people on a 25 serial notebook. As the banks have refused to clear many of the notes – we now move to CLEARING OUR OWN FUNDS VIA YOUR OWN ACCOUNTS WITHOUT THE NECESSARY REFERENCE TO ANY OUTSIDE AGENCY, BANKER OR 3RD PARTY.

From henceforth, all LLT’s, notes and PlanetRePayment© Card transactions will be INSTANTLY CLEARED AND CREDITED following receipt of transaction details.

We encourage you to ensure ALL PAYEES are members to facilitate the ease of clearing.

TERMINALS – ACCESS – LAP TOP – USB

The WeRe Bank App for ReTailers is ready. By early 2017 there will be a customer/member app, also available.

We provide a list of people and businesses prepared to accept the PlanetReServe currency – The Re and ReSDR. WeRe Bank is an energy conduit – it is a method of opening up another kind or fair and transparent energy usage.

FULL TRANSPARENCY

Benefits: You take action where action can be taken

You create a form of suffrage – you vote with your energy

WeRe Bank helps you ReSolve any and every debt crisis you face.

You retain full title to all goods and property which you formerly supposedly DID NOT own!

When you join, you Re-structure the planetary energy supply – you change the junction points on the train tracks of energy theft which has been perpetrated upon you and your ancestors – and the children who will inherit this debacle.

CREATE REAL CHANGE – DO IT NOW

– WeRe BANKING ON YOU –

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The WeRe Bank TIME™ Account

from WeRe Bank©

Tiger Lily #fundie rr-bb.com

Animals in Heaven and the Millennial Kingdom

I believe dinosaurs will be in the millennial kingdom and in heaven, too! We know from the Scriptures there are good things in heaven and there are animals in heaven. And we know God can restore human bodies, so why would exotic/extinct animals not "be delivered from the bondage of corruption," too? They are His and He preserves both man and beast. And if even the lowly sparrow has a place near His altar, why not His bigger creatures? And when His kingdom comes, His "will be done on earth as it is in heaven" where there are already animals.

At the very least, one would think that there would be dinosaurs after the MK, in the new heaven and earth when the Lord will make all things new and remove all sadness (including, presumably, sadness over not being able to see/interact with dinosaurs, if such sadness did exist). However, it seems much more like the Lord to have restored desired animals (pets, too) to His children in heaven already and the MK as soon as it starts. After all, He delights to give us things that bring us joy. And nothing is impossible with the Lord.

There are many good things in heaven
Ps 16:11 You have made known to me the path of life; you will fill me with joy in your presence, with eternal pleasures at your right hand.
1 Cor 2:9-10 However, as it is written: "No eye has seen, no ear has heard, no mind has conceived what God has prepared for those who love him"--but God has revealed it to us by his Spirit. The Spirit searches all things, even the deep things of God.
1 Tim 6:17 Command those who are rich in this present world not to be arrogant nor to put their hope in wealth, which is so uncertain, but to put their hope in God, who richly provides us with everything for our enjoyment.

Animals=Good
Gen 1:24-25 And God said, “Let the land produce living creatures according to their kinds: livestock, creatures that move along the ground, and wild animals, each according to its kind.” And it was so. God made the wild animals according to their kinds, the livestock according to their kinds, and all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good.

There are creatures in heaven
Rev 5:13 And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever.
Rev 19:14 The armies of heaven were following him, riding on white horses and dressed in fine linen, white and clean.

Restoration of bodies/Delivery from bondage
Phil 3:20-21 But our citizenship is in heaven. And we eagerly await a Savior from there, the Lord Jesus Christ, who, by the power that enables him to bring everything under his control, will transform our lowly bodies so that they will be like his glorious body.
John 5:28-29 "Do not be amazed at this, for a time is coming when all who are in their graves will hear his voice and come out—those who have done good will rise to live, and those who have done evil will rise to be condemned."
Rom 8:21 Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.

The animals are all His
Ps 50:10-11 for every animal of the forest is mine, and the cattle on a thousand hills. I know every bird in the mountains, and the creatures of the field are mine.

He preserves both man and beast
Ps 36:5-6 Your love, O LORD, reaches to the heavens, your faithfulness to the skies. Your righteousness is like the mighty mountains, your justice like the great deep. O LORD, you preserve both man and beast.

Even sparrows have a place near His altar
Luke 12:6 Are not five sparrows sold for two pennies? Yet not one of them is forgotten by God.
Ps 84:1-3 . . . How lovely is your dwelling place, O LORD Almighty! My soul yearns, even faints, for the courts of the LORD; my heart and my flesh cry out for the living God. Even the sparrow has found a home, and the swallow a nest for herself, where she may have her young--a place near your altar, O LORD Almighty, my King and my God.

Heaven's blessings to be mirrored on earth
Matt 6:10 your kingdom come, your will be done, on earth as it is in heaven.

No death, no sorrow/All things made new
Rev 21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away. And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.

The Lord delights to give us good things
Matt 7:7-11 "Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives; he who seeks finds; and to him who knocks, the door will be opened. Which of you, if his son asks for bread, will give him a stone? Or if he asks for a fish, will give him a snake? If you, then, though you are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father in heaven give good gifts to those who ask him!"
Ps 84:11 For the LORD God is a sun and shield; the LORD bestows favor and honor; no good thing does he withhold from those whose walk is blameless.
John 14:13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.
Rom 8:32 He who did not spare his own Son, but gave him up for us all--how will he not also, along with him, graciously give us all things?
Eph 3:20-21 Now to him who is able to do immeasurably more than all we ask or imagine, according to his power that is at work within us, to him be glory in the church and in Christ Jesus throughout all generations, for ever and ever! Amen.
Ps 37:4 Delight yourself in the LORD and he will give you the desires of your heart.

Nothing shall be impossible with God
Luke 1:37 For with God nothing shall be impossible.

Angelica Zambrano #fundie christiscoming777.com

THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN

Then an angel asked me “Are you ready? The LORD has sent us for this purpose” I answered “Yes, Im ready” as the Lord had taken away all my fear. This experience was different from the other two experiences. This time I did not travel to Heaven in the same manner as before. This time I instantly entered the Kingdom of Heaven. When I looked around I realised I was wearing a beautiful white dress. We began walking and the angels were just worshipping the LORD and said “Look around for we have many things to show you”. I began to see the same places I had seen in my first experience such as flowers and a beautiful garden.

CHILDREN IN HEAVEN

When we passed the garden we arrived in a place that was filled with children. These children were about 2-3 years old. They danced, played and sang. The angels said “Look, to such as these belongs the Kingdom of Heaven. Remember, only for those who open their hearts. Many of these children were killed. Many were aborted. Their mothers took their lives”. The children worshipped the Lord and played on what appeared to me to be a swing set. As I approached them they got very close to me. The Archangel Michael said to me “Today the Lord gives you a great love for children”. Previously I liked children but sometimes I hated their behaviour, crying, whining or talking too much. I just liked them to sit still. Michael said “God gives you a new love for children. When you return to earth, you will be like honey to them. They will look for you and you will be a blessing to them. Do you know why God places this love in your heart for children? God wants you to win their souls. There are many children in Hell. You must speak to their parents so they will know”.

Many children in this generation are rebellious. They do not obey their parents. Nowadays, children are being deceived by satan through the television. Most of the shows they watch do not edify in any way. Parents don’t realise it but there are many kids that watch pornographic videos. The cartoons that come through TV are not educational, they are evil. Children are influenced by these shows and they become rebellious. They continually disobey their parents. For these reasons children end up in Hell. (See Angelica’s 2nd Testimony for more info)

Eph 6, 1?Children, obey your parents in the Lord, for this is right. 2 “Honor your father and mother,”which is the first commandment with promise: 3 “that it may be well with you and you may live long on the earth.”

In Heaven, the children were praying, laughing and worshiping the LORD. I had great joy to see their happiness. When the angel told me that many of them had been aborted, it really hurt my heart. And you know what is sad? Many women have had abortions. Young and old, married and single. These women did not want their children. Sometimes the fathers would accompany them to the clinic. Those babies go to the presence of God. But the men and women of the earth become murderers. The word of God says that no murderer shall enter the kingdom of Heaven (Gal 5,19-21, Rev 21,8). If you have done this Repent today. If you do not repent and ask God for forgiveness this is what will take place on your day of judgment. Your children will come as a witness against you and say “You were my mother , you were my father, and you took my life”. They love you, they forgive you, but if you do not repent of that sin, you will go to Hell for eternity. Inside of the churches this sin has been committed.

Victoria Jackson #fundie dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.com

(snippets from a blog about her)

Thank you God above for giving us George W. Bush, and for giving us John McCain and Sarah Palin.

Why am I voting for the fantastic McCain/Palin ticket? Simply because my "world view" is based on the belief that The Bible is the inerrant, holy, Word of God....

Obama, call me. I'll explain Christianity to you.

Maybe you'll get saved and start loving unborn babies.

I don't want a political label, but Obama bears traits that resemble the anti- Christ...

I was reading the other day in Leviticus 26:3-13, and Leviticus 26:14-25 and on, where God was warning the Israelites to obey him. In Lev. 26:14-16 it even says, "...if you despise my statutes...I will even appoint terror over you." I couldn't help but see a parallel to our country which was founded on the God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob.

Waiting... #fundie rr-bb.com

[Whole rant about Google - found this so amusing (especially the "search business" bit) I had to submit loads of posts]

Waiting.... - Have any of you noticed that Google has nothing recognizing a day that is special to billions of people? Usually their home page has designs that recognize all sorts of things...but not the Resurrection of Christ

[followed by]

clay's nemesis - Why does Google shun ISRAEL ????

Go to Google Earth and look at all of the cities in Israel. They all have arabic names and not JEWISH names....

Google is anti-semetic.

[and later...]

Chris - I think 1 of the 2 founders of Google is Russian. Perhaps that explains the anti-semitic and anti-Christian thinking of Google??

[...]

Well, it's not really anger, it's just that Google has an awful lot of clout on the Internet, and they have used that clout to basically shun and disrepect Christians and their holidays. I don't think it is very nice that they can celebrate pagan holidays and every other event under the sun, and then ignore Christian holidays and the true Son. Very tacky and disrespectful to me. That's why I use other search providers.

I think Christians have a right and somewhat of an obligation to inform each other of businesses that practice this kind of discrimination. I would want to know if a business held discriminatory practices against myself and people of my faith. We can certainly take our search business elsewhere.

"Dr" Rick Van Thiel #conspiracy itsonlynatural.me

Is the baby you about to have going to be your baby to love, raise as you see fit, and enjoy? Or is this new life going to be born and immediately doomed to be another citizen, i.e. property of the people that call themselves "government", the same looting parasites that will claim the legislated right to expropriate your child from you because you refused to allow your child to be injected with toxic vaccines, decide to school at home, or any other thing they disapprove of?

Having your baby at home has lots of advantages; you have the option of not registering your baby and not having a birth certificate to act under. You can avoid highly toxic vaccines that are known to cause MS, autism, death and myriad of other serious heath issues. The government workers won't be knocking on your door in a few years and asking why you haven't submitted your child to their training because they won't know of your child's existence...

We can also provide you with Affidavit of New Life after your baby is born instead a birth certificate. When your child is 18 years old he/she can make the decision to live as a free being or to become a slave. You won't be to blame if he/she does because you will know that you did your part in preserving your child's freedom.

GTX #fundie christianforums.com

Eph 6:5 [5] Servants, be obedient to them that are your masters according to the flesh, with fear and trembling, in singleness of your heart, as unto Christ; Did God change his mind? I haven't found anything about him changing his mind, besides, you brought it up seebs. It looks as though God didn't have a problem with it. I can kind of see how we are to gradually move away from it, maybe.

John Birch Society #fundie jbs.org

Illuminati

Claim: The Order of the Illuminati, created by an obscure ex-professor named Adam Weishaupt on May 1, 1776, was the ancestor of the Communist movement and the model for modern subversive conspiratorial movements.

Status: Documentable

Although relatively little is known about him by way of biographical detail, the life of Adam Weishaupt was immensely consequential. A Jesuit-trained ex-professor of Canon Law at the University of Ingolstadt, Weishaupt fell away from the Catholic Church and became a determined enemy of the Christian worldview and the social order built upon it.

Determined to destroy Christian society and rebuild a new humanist order, Weishaupt organized the Order of the Illuminati in Bavaria on May 1, 1776. That date, celebrated by occultists as Beltane, became a universal holiday for Communists and other revolutionaries who trace their heritage to the conspiratorial group founded by Weishaupt.

Behind a carefully wrought facade of humanitarian activism, the Illuminati was organized as a strict hierarchy, with details of the organization's true nature incrementally revealed as the inductee advanced in rank. New initiates were called novices or “minervals”; at that level they were led to believe they had enlisted in a benevolent effort to promote harmony by making mankind into a single family. As he advanced to the rank if Illuminatus Minor, the adept was taught that the only impediment to universal peace and brotherhood was the stubborn bigotry of existing religious and political institutions, which would have to be destroyed – or at least brought under the influence of the Order -- in the name of the greater good.

MRBIGMUTTS #fundie freerepublic.com

Cant wait to see those flaming Perez Hilton types on the front lines “bitch slapping” the Taliban into submission. Are the Army and Marine Drill instructors now have to take sensitivity training so as to not insult or demean the “PP Puffers”? I can hear the battle cry now “OH NO ITS THE HOMO’S, RUN FOR YOUR LIFE”. Will they all sit around playing Village People and Cher records non stop? Well theres another reason to send a suicide bomber into your barracks because you have homosexual soldiers. Thank God, I served in the Military when our forces were STILL real fighting men, not a bunch of purple BARNEY types who want everyone to feel good. What are we going to have now, a guy in your group/unit going around giving out camo fashion do’s and dont’s for the rest of them. Dont ask, dont tell allowed them to serve, now the IDIOTS, YES THE IDIOTS in command/DC want them on the front lines. Well you are going to need more lawyers to investigate friendly fire incidents in foxholes too. How long until one of them go ballistic like the Muslim at Fort Hood because he didnt get a date on a Saturday night? How long before we have goats and sheep entering the service for the entertainment of these sexually perverted people.

Where has all of our great military mentors/leaders gone to. Where is the Pattons, Bradleys, MacArthurs, Eisenhowers and others. Thats right, they are causing all of the earthquakes we are having in the world right now because they are spinning in their graves watching what is going on with the American military or should I say the “Brokeback Military”.

IF THIS IS PUT INTO EFFECT WE HAVE TRULY LOST AMERICA AND EVERYTHING IT HAS STOOD FOR!

You better start looking for somewhere else to live, I will!!!

Junon #sexist islamicboard.com

Salaam

Another comment piece on the damage feminism has done to western society. Lessons to be learned.

Why Men (and Women) Hate Feminism

A while ago I received an e-mail from one of my female readers. She was being honest and polite, but wanted to know precisely what I had against feminism. It was along the lines of "feminism is about the equal treatment of women, so what is so bad about that?" However, like many other women, I don't believe she was fully aware as to just how far the feminist movement has gone, co-opting women and how far from the truth it is. Thus, I believe it would be to everybody's benefit to explain in detail why most readers here in the Capposphere and elsewhere are against feminism (and to see if I'm missing any other reasons).

Reason #1 - Myopic View of the Sexes

If there is a "primary" reason I would have to say this is it. Feminism started demanding changes in regards to women, with no consideration as to what would happen to the other half of society, ie - men. They also did not think it through and consider children as well. It was a very female-centered approach and nobody considered (let alone, cared) how actions/changes/etc. in women would affect the rest of society. You still see this today based on the policies advocated by feminism in that it is all about women. A secondary concern is given to the children (more often than not, using children as a means to extract government resources), and maybe a tertiary concern is given to men.

Reason #2 - Lies About Human Nature

A close second is the ludicrous concept that men and women are not just equal, but the same. Women can do what men can do. There are no biological differences. And any difference is viewed as sexism or oppression.

The problem is these differences are what makes men and women great. Men like women. Women like men. Men don't like manly women, and women don't like girly men. We enjoy the difference. All feminism has done is ruined the love lives of millions of other women (and men's as well) lying to youth about "being a sensitive 90's man"or a "strong independent woman." That men are "shallow" and "cheap" for liking long legs and big boobs, and that any man who is worth his weight in salt will "like you for you." Women now ignore these basic biological facts about male sexuality, even mocking and scorning them, and fail to attract men.

These lies about the "exact sameness" of men and women also destroy a vital component of our economy and society - the division of labor. Though nobody is ordained or condemned to play these roles, traditionally the wife would stay home, while the husband would work. This allowed for not only better families, but better reared children. It also allowed for happier people (as men are predisposed to go out and work and women are predisposed to stay at home and rear a family). Neither role was inferior to the other. Both were vital, but it was feminism that lied to millions of younger women telling them the grass was greener on the other side. The result has been an increase in divorce, less stable family, less financially stable families, and problem children incapable of becoming functioning adults in society. This has also resulted in women being less happy.

Reason #3 - False Claims of Sexism

The thoroughly debunked "wage gap" is getting mighty tiresome. It is a false argument used only to gain "victim" status by feminists to result in legislation that unfairly benefits women. Affirmative action is nothing more than discrimination against men. Most men resent this

Reason #4 - Not Pulling Your Weight

The wage gap, however, does prove something. Women, for all their clamor of independence and "what you can do I can do better" are failing miserably and only achieving about 76% of what men do. This in spite of all the handicaps of affirmative action, a media that is always supportive, and limitless educational and government programs. Of course, the wage gap is not 100% "proof women aren't pulling their own weight." Many women still take on traditional roles and rear children, some drop out of the work force to take care of their families. But when it comes to majoring in rigorous studies, producing things of economic value, and being economically-contributing members of society, they disproportionately fail. They account for more government workers than men, they account for easier subjects in college than men, and they are nowhere to be seen in dangerous or risky jobs. Women on the whole are NOT equal when it comes to economic production.

Reason #5 - Poor Stewardship of the Right to Vote

This is more of an opinion, but I believe it is an opinion held by the majority of men (and surprisingly, women) who hate feminism (so you may not agree the the political opinion, but it IS a reason some people hate feminism). In short, feminists have been poor stewards of their right to vote. I say this because they have consistently as a group voted for more government and less freedom since given the right to vote. I believe this is because it is in women's nature to be more caring than men, and thus tend to vote for "nicer" things. Children, health care, education, etc. However, "feelings" and "caring" have no place in government finances. That requires passionless thought and consideration, research, mathematics, and an understanding of history and economics. It also requires an appreciation for the freedom granted to us by our forefathers and an understanding of the role government was intended to play. Feminists have proven ignorant about these topics and vote with their hearts, not their heads (and more recently, just for plain politics).

Reason #6 - Replacing Men With the State

Closely related to #5 is that feminists and feminism advocates essentially replacing the husband and father with the state. This is abundantly clear when you see how much money and support single mothers get not to mention this macabre desire by some feminists to eliminate men from the birthing process altogether. Not only does this take away the two most important things in a man's live (his theoretical would-be wife and children), but essentially forces men to compete against the government as a much-better financed suitor. Not only do men lose out on love and family, any children brought into this world via Daddy Government are missing a real father and will suffer incredibly later in life.

Reasons #7 - Hypocrisy

While most hard core feminists will claim they're "independent," they're anything but. They are usually the first to have some kind of make-work government job, some kind of professorship nobody asked for, or begging and pleading for donations to some kind of "activist group." They typically produce nothing of value and require the state to transfer other people's money to create jobs for them. They even point out, point blank, they want more government money for them and/or their children in government policy. And while, yes, there may be that one feminist computer engineer, the vast majority of them are hopelessly dependent.

Reason #8 - Backlash for the Ruination of Women/Men/Lives

In general and summarizing some of the above, most people haven't sat down to think things through to the point they can articulate why the are so frustrated or angry with the opposite sex, let alone what role feminism played in this angst. But both sexes are painfully aware of the lower quality men and women of today. Modern day western women are on the whole unmarriageable, and modern day western men are no where near capable of being a provider or protector. As they ponder these things, however, they will start to realize just what a bunch of BS and lies they were fed in their youth. Lies about the sexes, the roles people were supposed to play, how the sexes were to interact with one another, and what people "should and should not like." As people age, they will see the best thing in their lives (namely, members of the opposite sex) ruined and spoiled, and consequentially the quality of their own lives ruined as well. Men now have to settle for women they're not attracted to, women have to settle for men who are effeminate and clueless, all because a bunch of women in the 1970's were miserable with their lives and (as far as I can tell) merely wanted everybody else to be miserable like them. When people put two and two together, they will see it was feminism that warped and thus ruined this aspect of their lives and they will get angry.

Those are the 8 primary reasons I could come up with. I think there may be more, but at minimum I hope it debunks feminism as simply being the "equal treatment of women" and clears up some things on both sides of the aisle.

David Prosen #fundie cuf.org

I used to believe I was a “gay” person. I had been attracted to the same gender for as long as I could remember. Because this attraction was present from early on in my life, without my conscious choice, I concluded that I must have been born this way. After all, that’s a logical conclusion . . . right?

The attraction I had to the same gender when I was a little boy was normal and similar to what many boys experience. Boys look for heroes, role models who they respect and want to emulate. For me, the attraction to men started out with normal admiration but then began to take some dysfunctional turns. As a child, I was often made fun of and told by my peers that I wasn’t like them. This made me question what the difference between us was. At this point, shades of covetousness characterized my admiration. I secretly wondered, “If I looked like so-and-so, would I be accepted?”

In puberty, this attraction or admiration became eroticized. The derogative homosexual label was given to me by my peers, and I yielded to their accusations because I truly did have a sexualized same-sex attraction. Eventually, I embraced this label and called myself “gay.”

Although I didn’t freely choose same-sex attractions, I did willfully choose to act upon them. My decision to sin brought me intense pain, loneliness, and—worst of all—separation from God. The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith explained this reality in a statement that observed, “As in every moral disorder, homosexual activity prevents one’s own fulfillment and happiness by acting contrary to the creative wisdom of God. The Church, in rejecting erroneous opinions regarding homosexuality, does not limit personal freedom and dignity realistically and authentically understood.”

Eventually, in my brokenness, I responded to the Lord’s loving call to forgiveness and healing. He has brought me through the valley of shame and out of the darkness of my past and shined His light of truth upon the many lies I believed about myself—especially the one that claimed that I was a “gay” person.

By defining myself as a “gay” male, I had taken on a false identity. Any label such as “lesbian,” “bisexual,” or even “homosexual” insinuates a type of person equivalent to male or female. This is simply not true. One is not a same-sex attraction, but instead experiences this attraction.

In his book, Growth into Manhood, Alan Medinger shows that homosexual tendencies and behaviors have been around for thousands of years, but the idea of a homosexual identity only began to evolve about 150 years ago with the emergence of the term “homosexual.”

In a later study, Medinger further demonstrates his findings, revealing a number of untruths that tend to surface when one accepts homosexuality as an identity:

+I must have been born this way.

+If I was born that way, God made me this way.

+If God made me this way, how can there be anything wrong with it?

+It’s in my nature and I must be true to my nature.

+If it’s my nature, I can’t change.

+If I try to change I would be trying to go against my nature and that would be harmful.

+Accepting myself as gay feels so good—I feel like a thousand pound load has been lifted off of my back—so it must be okay.

+If people can’t accept my being gay, then something is wrong with them.

+If people can’t accept my being gay, then they don’t accept me because that’s who I am.

When I read these, I was floored. I believed each and every statement deep down to my core. When I was engaged in this lifestyle, it made perfect sense to go along with what felt natural. However, it was logical only because it appeared to be truth. In reality, lies had to be built upon lies for them to add up to something with the semblance of truth.

I believed I was gay. But I was also certain that I didn’t choose this for myself, and so I believed that God must have made me this way. However, Scripture verses like the following made no sense in light of my feelings: “If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall be put to death, their blood is upon them” (Lev. 20:13).

How could a God of love create me this way and then condemn me to hell? I began to do what many other Christians struggling with same-sex attraction do and searched for “pro-gay” theologies for explanations. I desperately wanted to be in a loving relationship with the same gender, but at the same time, I had a gnawing feeling in my heart that this was wrong.

Looking back, I believe that my search for truth and struggle against accepting this lifestyle was ultimately the way in which the Holy Spirit convicted me. Still, this gnawing feeling—that same-sex attraction was not God’s plan for my life—was not easy for me to reconcile with because I believed that my sexuality alone was my identity.

Ignorance of this distinction is dangerous. My false beliefs regarding my identity deterred me from accepting the conviction in my heart from the Holy Spirit. St. Paul acknowledged this very same process, explaining:

Because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshipped and served the creature rather than the Creator . . . God gave them up to dishonorable passions. Their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in their own persons the due penalty for their error (Rom. 1:25-27).

Only after I accepted the truth that acting on homosexual attractions was a sin did I begin to ask for the strength and the grace to carry that cross—and the Lord abundantly poured these upon me. Several years later, He showed me that homosexuality was a false identity that I had embraced. And at this point, my integral healing began as I searched out who I really was. My reflections led me to the discovery that I never truly believed I was a man, and yet I didn’t think I was a woman. In that searching process, I realized that I did not fully identify with either gender.

Through the sacraments—especially the Eucharist—as well as counseling, spiritual healing retreats, and much prayer, Christ revealed to me that I am a man. I have many masculine traits that I was never aware I possessed—such as courage and strength. I can never adequately express the tremendous joy I felt when I began to internally recognize and accept the fact that I am a man, I am masculine, and I do belong in the world of men. At the same time this recognition occurred to me, my attraction to men continued to decrease drastically and my attraction to women increased.

At the beginning of this article, I mentioned the discussion over whether persons are born homosexual or if they choose to be. Neither is true because same-sex attraction is an experience—not a type of person. Accepting homosexuality as an identity, which has largely been affirmed in our culture, brings so much confusion. In order for a Christian to justify homosexual behavior, he or she needs to alter and contort Sacred Scripture.

Many individuals from within are trying to force the Catholic Church to change her stance toward homosexuality because it seems like discrimination against those who are just “being themselves.” But it is not discrimination when we identify and seek to correct falsely held beliefs.

The problem has not just effected those dissenting in our Church. There are very good Catholics and even good priests who wrongly assert that people cannot change their sexual orientation. These people may have the best of intentions, but for whatever reason they have bought into the lie that homosexuality is a type of person.

The Church’s response to those suffering with same-sex attraction offers us this perspective:

The number of men and women who have deep-seated homosexual tendencies is not negligible. This inclination, which is objectively disordered, constitutes for most of them a trial. They must be accepted with respect, compassion, and sensitivity. Every sign of unjust discrimination in their regard should be avoided. These persons are called to fulfill God’s will in their lives and, if they are Christians, to unite to the sacrifice of the Lord’s Cross the difficulties they may encounter from their condition (CCC, no. 2358).

There is hope for those who have same-sex attraction, and we must not abandon efforts to help others understand the truth. This is not to say that God will “change” His creation, the person, because He did not make them this way or intend for them to experience this attraction. Rather, God can change the person’s way of thinking by revealing the lie that the individual has accepted and assimilated into their sense of self.

Once the lie is exposed, wounds that led to this lie such as abuse, rejection, or lack of affirmation in one’s gender identity can be addressed, healing can begin, and the person’s true identity can emerge. When this healing process begins, the attraction to the opposite sex for many has increased.

Courage, the Catholic support group for those with same-sex attraction, as well as many Christians, refrain from using words such as “gay,” “lesbian,” “bisexual,” “transgender,” or even “homosexual.” Words can have powerful effects. Because these words are labels which insinuate that homosexuality is an identity, they reinforce untruths and continue to escalate the problems in our society and our Church. As Catholic Christians, I encourage each of us to be careful with our speech and eliminate the use of labels and instead use the words “same-sex attraction” which more accurately describe the experience that these men and women go through.

J. Davis #fundie courts.state.md.us

[An excerpt from a legal opinion that argues that women do not have the right to withdraw consent during sex. This likely does not represent J. Davis' personal views, but is based on common law notions of women as chattel.]

The pertinent question is whether that pronouncement is an accurate statement of the English common law which is, conceptually, the genesis of the notion that there is no rape where the prior consent is followed by penetration and then withdrawal of consent. Battle says that it is. The concept, undergirding the Battle holding, rooted in ancient laws and adopted by the English common-law,views the initial “de–flowering” of a woman as the real harm or insult which must be redressed by compensating, in legal contemplation, the injured party - the father or husband. This initial violation of the victim also provided the basis for the criminal proceeding against the offender.

But, to be sure, it was the act of penetration that was the essence of the crime of rape; after this initial infringement upon the responsible male’s interest in a woman’s sexual and reproductive functions, any further injury was considered to be less consequential. The damage was done. It was this view that the moment of penetration was the point in time, after which a woman could never be “re-flowered,” that gave rise to the principle that, if a woman consents prior to penetration and withdraws consent following penetration, there is no rape. Maryland adheres to this tenet, having adopted the common law, which remains the law of the Land until and unless changed by the State’s highest court or by statute.

Ann Coulter #fundie salon.com

“It’s Christianity that the left hates most of all because that is the foundation of our country and all of our freedoms come from that,” Coulter said. “The rest of the world is a cesspool of violence and atrocities. This is the most consequential nation on Earth and the fact that these Christians would rather get praise from the New York Times and Nicholas Kristof by changing bedpans of Ebola patients in Nigeria, rather than stand up to the New York Times and fight against abortion and fight against these bullies, and I don’t think it’s gay bullies, I think it’s as you call them, secular progressives or liberals. The media, they’re the ones who are trying to tear down this country by going directly at the heart of America which is Christianity.”

Steve Ham #fundie answersingenesis.org

The Sufficiency of Scripture for Helping People in Need

Author Steve Ham explores the consistency between the positions of biblical creation and biblical counseling concerning the authority of God’s Word and its sufficiency in the lives of all believers.

Recently I had the opportunity to read and review the book Counseling the Hard Cases.1 This book places the biblical counseling movement on display as it reports the process and outcomes of real-life counseling cases. As a biblical creationist, I was continually encouraged to find the counselors’ dedication to the sufficiency of Scripture for helping real people with real problems. While preparing a review of this book as a graduate student at Southern Baptist Theological Seminary in Louisville, Kentucky, I became even more aware of the consistency between the positions of biblical creation and biblical counseling concerning the authority of God’s Word and its sufficiency in the lives of all believers.

Biblical Authority and Medical Science

I noticed the strong correlations between biblical creationists and biblical counselors in the first chapter of Counseling the Hard Cases. Both positions face accusations revolving around the nature of authority and science. For example, many “Christian counselors” are convinced that the use of such treatments as hypnosis or psychotropic drugs are based on strong scientific research and analysis.2 Persuaded that this research comes from an authoritative source, they then integrate it into their counseling methodology.

Like most “Christian counselors,” trained biblical counselors typically take great care to refer counselees to doctors for necessary medical diagnosis and treatment of their physical ailments. However, for spiritual issues the biblical counselor seeks to ensure that Scripture is seen as the supreme authority and sufficient to help all believers deal with trials (suffering) or sin in their lives. Biblical counselors also should acquaint themselves with the research related to such things as medication, noting which recommendations are based upon repeatable, testable observations and which are based on assumptions influenced by a secular worldview. This is also why biblical counselors prefer to work in partnership with physicians who are Bible-believing Christians. In recognition of secular worldview influences in the medical community, many biblical counselors have armed counselees with questions to ask their practitioners who prescribe medications such as anti-depressants. Especially if a diagnosis is as broad as the term “chemical imbalance,” biblical counselors will encourage questions such as the following:

• What tests were performed to prove that the problem exists?
• What proof do you have that the problem you discovered is not merely a symptom of a deeper problem?
• What proof do you have that the medication you are prescribing truly corrects the problem?

Properly Diagnosing the Problem and Its Remedy

In today’s world it seems nearly every social or relational problem known to man is categorized by a descriptively named disorder and often treated by some psychotropic drug. In many cases, counselors and others re-label sinful responses to situations in a way that removes personal responsibility. For example, lashing out at your children in anger is now known as Intermittent Explosive Disorder, and “it’s not your fault” that you act the way you do. If your son consistently disobeys your authority as his parent, he will likely be diagnosed with Oppositional Defiant Disorder. These disorders are often depicted as villains maliciously attacking their victims as if they were a force unto themselves. When seen in this light, these problems become the cause of debilitation for many people who find themselves lost in a hopeless dependence on secular psychological techniques and prescription medication.

This wrong perception of relational problems that are ultimately rooted in sinful thoughts and behaviors has sadly become commonplace even in the church. Many counseling practitioners have attempted to make a compatible partnership between Christian doctrine and worldly philosophies in the diagnosis and treatment of the human soul.[

Scripture Is Sufficient to Help with the Problems of Life

To address this issue, Counseling the Hard Cases reports on real-life case studies from eleven experienced biblical counselors. Compiled by editors Stuart Scott and Heath Lambert, the introduction clearly sets forth the theme for this collection of biblical counseling case studies.4 In the development of the modern biblical counseling movement over the last fifty years, persuasive evidence shows that “Scripture is comprehensively sufficient to do ministry with people experiencing profound difficulties in their lives” (p. 23).

While the sufficiency of Scripture in counseling is the basic thesis of the book, in each of the hard cases the editors have been careful to display this concept practically in the lives of real people. Even for those who are not skeptical about biblical counseling, the results of these hard cases were amazing and gave great cause for rejoicing in the redeeming grace found in the Cross of Christ.

The biblical counseling movement has been criticized by those who are skeptical of the sufficiency of Scripture for counseling. Secular psychology understandably views the Bible as irrelevant, but many “Christian counselors” acknowledge the Bible’s relevance yet deny its sufficiency in the way that they practically advise their counselees. We expect people with a purely naturalistic view of the human condition to dismiss biblical wisdom in counseling, and therefore this book primarily answers the criticisms of “Christian counseling.”

One of the primary criticisms of biblical counselors is that they use the Bible to somehow replace science and therefore ignore the consensus of secular research for dealing with psychological problems. But the proof of scriptural sufficiency for biblical counseling is convincingly “in the pudding.”5 This book helps put to rest the misconception that biblical counselors ignore science as the reader observes them partnering with trained physicians to treat real and identifiable physical problems. It is in the power of the Holy Spirit and the gospel of Christ, through the voice of the counselor, that the application of biblical truth guides a responsive counselee to healing and sanctification.

When discussing counseling methods, a key question to ask is this: does the authority to diagnose the many human dysfunctional behaviors come from man’s word or God’s Word? Heath Lambert is quick to point out that the counseling debate is profoundly centered in presuppositions. He refers to Jay Adams, who stated that his presupposition in counseling methodology is “the inerrant Bible as the standard of all faith and practice” (p. 8). It is clear that each of the contributing authors commences his or her counseling approach with the same presupposition as Adams. To some, this presupposition may seem like an intellectual debate about methodologies. But the ten extraordinary cases presented in the book consistently confirm the truth of this idea in real-life situations as the hope of Christ transforms lives and frees people from bondage to sinful thoughts and behaviors. So, a presuppositional approach to Scripture is not simply a debate about truth; it is also entirely practical.

Can the Bible Help with the Hard Cases?

Like biblical creationists, biblical counselors have never claimed that the Bible is a science textbook.

Other accusations against the biblical counseling movement have come from a misinterpretation of the doctrine of the sufficiency of Scripture. Critics claim that the Bible is not a science textbook, and therefore it is ill-equipped to help with so-called psychological disorders. The answers to such claims are well stated in this book.

First, secular psychology fails to prove that many of the human problems “classified as mental illnesses” are related to any real “disease or illness at all” (p. 8). This ultimately means that the “science” of secular psychology has its own problems with regard to the definition of observational (i.e., testable, repeatable) science, by which a hypothesis is repeatedly tested and either proven or denied. As a prime example, no one really knows how certain neurotransmitters relate to conditions like depression and anxiety. Yet various medications are prescribed to correct imbalances that have not been accurately defined.

Second, critics from the Christian counseling movement suggest that biblical counselors are using the Bible in place of “science” or as a “science” textbook. But, like biblical creationists, biblical counselors have never claimed that the Bible is a science textbook. Within all the different genres that Scripture takes, the biblical counselor starts with a commitment to the authority of God’s Word. So, instead of viewing human problems in the light of a secular label such as a phobia or disorder, biblical counselors present human problems as Scripture does—in terms of the problem of human sin and suffering and the answer in the gospel.

Real Help and Change in Transformed Living

Reading through each of the hard cases, one soon comes to the realization that these scriptural truths are not just words on a page. Instead, the case studies show there truly is transformational power in the living Word of God (Hebrews 4:12). The same God who saves us from everlasting destruction also brings us into a life that exemplifies His grace. Even more enlightening is the fact that many of the people whose stories are told in this book found genuine healing after having first been disillusioned by the debilitating effects of anti-depressives, hypnosis, attempts to relive a better childhood, and various other secular treatments.

The list of documented cases contains “disorders” that many pastors have dispatched in the “too-hard” basket. They include an extreme example of sexual abuse, obsessive-compulsive disorder, bipolar disorder, and more. A purely theoretical book cannot touch the impact of this book in retelling what these real-life experiences reveal about the sufficiency of Scripture in the counseling process.

One final thing that should be mentioned in respect to these cases is the book’s consistent theme highlighting the believer’s satisfaction in Christ, confidence in the gospel, the power of the Holy Spirit, a commitment for prayerful reading and application of Scripture, and the supportive care of the local church community. The counseling process is shown to engage not only one counselor but God working through His Word and the community of believers in the heart and mind of the counselee.

The Powerful Word of God

I heartily recommend this book to pastors and any believer needing to witness the powerful nature of the Word of God to gain confidence and steadfastness in the faith—and anyone with a desire to help others:

I myself am satisfied about you my brothers that you yourselves are full of goodness, filled with all knowledge and able to instruct one another. (Romans 15:14, ESV)

Footnotes

1. Stuart W. Scott and Heath Lambert, eds. Counseling the Hard Cases. Nashville, TN: B&H Publishing Group, 2012.
2. “Christian counseling” is a term most often associated with counselors who are prepared to integrate secular psychology’s methodologies and treatments into their counseling.
3. Answers in Genesis has produced an excellent video on this very topic called Counterfeit Counseling by Pastor Brad Bigney.
4. Dr. Stuart Scott, one of the editors of Counseling the Hard Cases, spoke at the Answers for Pastors conference in October 2013 on the sufficiency of Scripture in biblical counseling.
5. This is not to say that every biblical counseling case ends successfully. God’s Word—our fully reliable and sufficient source of truth—requires the believer to submit and obey in humility, but sadly, some people do not submit to the authority of Scripture.

Mark Jones #fundie theologyreview.co.uk

Following up on Our Response

I’d encourage those of you who read this article to read the blog from The Northern Jester. It’s always good to read the opinions of others, especially so if they don’t line up with your views, and more importantly scripture. Personally, I regularly read the likes of Bart Ehrman and Elaine Pagels (and others), why? Because if we truly want to have a voice on any issue, we should have a balanced understanding of it from both sides of the fence.

Outside of my reply to the article, there isn’t too much to say here. Although I could go on for days picking apart this article, I’m not going to here. As I don’t think that’s fair to the writer. What I will say that wasn’t really mentioned in the reply I sent to the blog, is that if you are someone who wants to argue for the affirmation of homosexuality, then at least avoid the Jesus argument from silence. It’s not a good argument, as what always happens when using this is that you ignore what Jesus defines as marriage (one man and one woman) because you’re looking for Jesus uttering the word homosexual.

On that front allow me to share something I found rather recently in my research on this subject (something I’ve been doing for over 2 years now). In the gospel of Matthew, Jesus is found in many debates with the Pharisees and scribes. Chapter 15 is one such occasion, in verses 10-20 of that chapter Jesus zones in on the subject of what defiles us, where in verse 19 he says:

“For out of the heart come evil thoughts, murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false witness, slander.” – Matthew 15:19 (ESV)

Logically the person arguing for the affirmation of homosexuality may look at the citing of this verse and ask why is this verse even being brought up. It doesn’t include the word homosexuality, so Jesus can’t be including it here. However, this shows a lack of understanding of the original language the New Testament was written in, Koine Greek. See the word we translate as sexual immorality is the word porneia. Here is a quick translation of the word:

illicit sexual intercourse
adultery, fornication, homosexuality, lesbianism, intercourse with animals etc.
sexual intercourse with close relatives; Lev. 18
sexual intercourse with a divorced man or woman; Mk. 10:11,
metaph. the worship of idols
of the defilement of idolatry, as incurred by eating the sacrifices offered to idols
So as we can see here, homosexuality (as well as lesbianism and beastiality) is included in the definition of porneia. Now the question to those arguing for Jesus never mentioning homosexuality during his ministry, is can you show me from this list what form (or forms) of sexual immorality Jesus is specifically mentioning and give a valid reason as to why this isn’t the case with homosexuality and lesbianism? And the answer to this question will have to be factual, not solely based on opinions.

Now, in this article, I will not be outlining what the Biblical view on this issue is, or how Christians should deal with this very important issue. That will come at another point in time. The purpose of this article is to share my response to the Northern Jester and to highlight this important question of whether or not Jesus did mention homosexuality in his ministry, which from reading the New Testament in Biblical Greek, it most certainly seems like he did.

This is a huge issue in our culture today, it will be discussed no end for a long time. This article and the Northern Jester’s blog will not change that anytime soon.

J3sus Is My L0rd #fundie christianforums.com

[It would probably blow your mind to know that I haven't had sex with anyone since 1992. Yet, I'm still homosexual. So apparently, your assessment of it as a "CHOICE to indulge in wickedness, sin, carnal desires, sexual immorality, and impurity" is flawed.]

It's not my "assessment" thats flawed, tell God that along with His word being wrong.

Lev. 18:22
Lev. 20:13
1 Cor. 6:9-10
Rom. 1:26-28
Psalm 100:3
Psalm 139:15-16
1 Corinthians 6:19

[Text from verses removed to cut down on length.]

CHRISTIAN EXODUS #fundie christianexodus.org

[The "About Us" for an organization that advocates that "Christians" move to South Carolina, take over the state and secede.]

ChristianExodus.org was founded in November of 2003 in response to the moral degeneration of American culture, and the rampant corruption among the powers that be. The initial goal was to move thousands of Christian constitutionalists to South Carolina to accelerate the return to self-government based upon Christian principles at the local and State level. This project continues to this day, with the ultimate goal of forming an independent Christian nation that will survive after the decline and fall of the financially and morally bankrupt American empire. We have learned, however; that the chains of our slavery and dependence upon godless government have more of a hold on us than can be broken by simply moving to another state.

As many like-minded Christian activists pursue independent Christian living without relocating, the scope has expanded to promote "personal secession" though many and various tracks, wherever they can be implemented. The long process of disentanglement from idolatrous dependencies includes such practices of moving towards a home-centered economy, with home-businesses, home-gardening, debt-free living, private exchange, home-schooling, home-birthing, homeopathic medicine, heath care cost-sharing, house-churches, unregistered Christian ministry, and any other way in which we might live free and godly lives in Christ Jesus, without prostrating ourselves to the eat from hand of the imperial magistrate.

Amos Moses/Doug Bristow #fundie disqus.com

(Amos and Doug fighting about free will)

Doug Bristow:
Sorry my friend and brother in Christ but you are wrong on this one.
A child can tell you what free will is. God is LOVE. He created us out of love. He loves us and wants us to love Him. That is why He gave us free will because without free will there is no love; only a pre-programmed response. We can choose to love God by accepting His son Christ Jesus or we can choose not to love God by rejecting His son and thereby reject Him in the process.
To borrow from an insurance commercial...it is so easy a caveman can understand it

Amos Moses:
"we can choose not to love God by rejecting His son and thereby reject Him in the process."
unscriptural ........ it is not our choice ... it is Gods choice .... His sheep are not His sheep because they volunteered and did a good work by volunteering ....... by saying a sinners prayer ... there are no magic words or incantations .... God has ALWAYS had a CHOSEN people .... and do you know why ... because HE CHOSE THEM ... we did not choose Him .... our nature prevents us ..... the unregenerate man does not want to be seen as a fool .... and the things of God are foolishness to that man ......BTW ... free will is NOT spiritual and is not spiritually discerned .... it is idolatry ...

Doug Bristow:
John 3:16-17 New King James Version (NKJV)
16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. 17 For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.

Amos Moses:
how did you make that "free will decision" BEFORE you were even created .................
Eph
1:4 According as He hath chosen us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
1:5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,
1:6 To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein He hath made us accepted in the beloved.

Doug Bristow:
We are all chosen for the offer of eternal life through Christ but sadly not all will accept.

Amos Moses:
no ... the offer is to all men but only the elect are chosen by God ..... and it says so outright in Ephesians .... He chooses His sheep .... the sheep do not chose their shepherd ....

Doug Bristow:
Where in Ephesians?

Amos Moses:
Ephesians
1:3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:
1:4 According as He hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
1:5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will, (not our will)
1:6 To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved.
1:7 In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;
1:8 Wherein he hath abounded toward us in all wisdom and prudence;
1:9 Having made known unto us the mystery of his will, (not our will) according to his good pleasure which he hath purposed in himself:
1:10 That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him:
1:11 In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of Him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will: (not our will)
1:12 That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ.

you were counted as saved even before you were created .... before the entire creation was created .... before you had any body, mind and soul to choose ...... as Gods plan .... that is the potters freedom .... the potter (God) who formed you from the clay ....

Doug Bristow:
Thats what I have been telling you. We are all predestined.

Amos Moses:
again ... that does not affirm "free will" ..... and that is not addressing all of humanity .... it addresses the Elect .... because only the elect are the "whoever" .... all men are called to do right by their God given conscience .... as a general call .... which the unregenerate ignore .... and what you are quoting does not address how fallen men decide what their choice is ... they have choice .... but they have a choice informed by their fallen nature not a philosophical "free will" .... and they cannot violate their nature until God changes that nature .........but Doug .... scripture says not one word about free will ..... and you have not shown by scripture that they do ... mans choices are dictated by his nature .... and until God changes that nature they are not able to choose God .... God makes them able because HE does the choosing .... the sheep do not choose their shepherd ...For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; not as a result of works, that no one should boast. Eph (2:8–9)
faith and grace are Gods gifts ....... it is Gods actions that save us as it says faith and grace are not from us ..... faith and grace are not our works .... but your "free will choice" IS ............. God saves us ... NOT because of our "free will decision" ..... but IN SPITE of it ............

Doug Bristow:
It does affirm free will and it does address all of humanity but not all of humanity will choose to accept

Amos Moses:
you are reading into what you want to believe ... not what the text says .... and that is improper .....

Doug Bristow:
The whole world and whosoever.....

Amos Moses:
and the whosoever is only the elect .... because they are the ones CHOSEN by Him .... as He does the choosing .........

only the elect are the whosoever as they are the only ones God created out of all of humankind to be saved .... He created them to be saved and He created others to be destroyed .... and He did all this before the creation was created .....

Doug Bristow:
Your interpretation of scripture does not conform with John 3:16-17 and since God is not the author of confusion you are wrong.

anonymous fundies #fundie boycottmcdonalds.com

(Fundie letters to McDonalds in regards to the company supporting the gay and lesbian community)

McDonald's is not my kind of place, for God they have disgraced. No more purchases of hamburgers or fries to support the spreading of lies. What happened to your values - or has it been contaminated by your revenues. McDonalds your arch is not so golden and I am disappointed that corporate sponsors have allowed this action. Thank God there are other fast food establishments to support."

"For years we have eaten at your restaurant. For years have taken teens to Christian functions and ALWAYS stopped at McDonald's. I am sorry to see that you choose to ignore God's teachings against homosexualism. Our world is becoming more and more wicked and this is only making it more so. We will never eat at another McDonald's, we will not take children or grandchildren there. We will see that all of our friends know of this, and recommend they act in like manner. I am sorry that you have chosen not to follow God's laws. I wonder where your future customers will come from since 2 males or 2 females cannot procreate."

"Your success will soon be coming to a halt. There are too many CHRISTians that will read this story and will immediately change fast food establishments. The Golden Arches will fall."


"Dear Mr. Ceo, What you do sexually is between you and God but to take a Restaurant and make it about sexuality is not just stupid it's Crazy! What are you thinking? Look at Ford, don't let your sin blind you, We will pray for you and your company and we won't be back, till you decide to remain neutral which is the only real choice here,"

"It's ashame that McDonald's hates homosexuals by not wanting them to be born again by God's spirit in Jesus, as we all must be to see God's kingdom. How can I continue to give my money to this business?"

"We DO NOT NEED a "BrokeBack" McDonalds further destroying the fabric of OUR NATION !"

"the next thing you know RONALD will be molesting our children. No big macks for this family."


"Dear McDonalds Corp, This is NOT a hate letter directed to you against anyone. It is my deepest sadness that you will not stand for the original family unit which includes a MALE AND FEMALE...the way God intended a family to be. You are standing for perverted sexual preferences which is NOT what made this country strong for over 200 years. There will be no Mc Cafe for our family...something I was looking forward to trying. Please listen to the MAJORITY and quit using your company to further the gay/lesbian agenda which is NOT the voice of AMERICA!"

"I'm so saddened by your stance. Your choice goes against the very "intolerance" that you claim not to support. Your decision tells me you are intolerant to my Christian beliefs." And you call yourself a family place??? We've eaten our last meal at McDonald's! This is something you should not be involved in. Your business is serving the public not being in this kind of ungodly organization.""

The This is some long shit' edition of FSTDT.

Sande Van der Straten #ufo #magick bibliotecapleyades.net

These are the notes that I took at the meeting held February 8th, 1992 at Maleny, Queensland.

This is my version of my notes of the meeting with Robert Morning Sky a full blooded Apache/Hopi Indian. Who was raised by his two grandparents after his father was killed and his mother left the reservation.

From the age of 1-5 years, he had no contact with the white man at all. He was taught by his grandfathers and with a group of other young people by a group of people they called the Star Warriors - aliens he code-names Blues.

These people taught him to run 6 miles with a full mouth of water and not choke or spill a drop, then they would return and have to spit the water out at the feet of the Warriors. They had to stand with their backs to their elders who would shoot an arrow and they, the students, would have to turn and catch it mid-flight. He said they didn’t realize - the students - that they weren’t supposed to be able to do these things.

The policy of the Star Warrior is that knowledge is not given, it is earned. The way to learn is to be led to discovery.

There is an old Hopi prophecy (today’s red man is white tomorrows white man is green). The first alien contact started about 1947 - 1948 and they had either already, or were going to spend 50 years with the elders of the Hopi Indian reservation.

A description of the Star Warriors is of clear, translucent skin, large almond shaped eyes and small of stature. The main issue of their teaching was PURSUE YOUR PASSION, follow your own way, do your own thing, don’t be pressured into being anything but what and who you are.

A medicine man is not necessarily a healer, they are people who do their own thing with a passion, i.e. one that will make you practice your practice your own medicine, two, feel better - medicine people make both things one and the same. A warrior is a living example of passion.

What is passion, it is an inner feeling, a love activity. It is that which makes time flow quickly, that one will move heaven and earth to do, that one will make time for. Passion is the unity of union of love between man and woman, which has more power and energy than anything one earth and if harnessed can be unbeatable.

Harmony occurs when ones own heart beat moves in time with another, i.e. the drum music of the dance, the heartbeat of chosen one, the heartbeat of a nation, the heartbeat of the universe and the earth. Think about your passion, if it makes you feel good, and shivery, it is your passion. It is your passion that makes all things possible.

The Hopi tradition is that it is man’s job to make all things possible for the womenfolk. They must attract, but the women must chose.

The reason for long hair is enhancement of beauty and the "Indian love handle" - he mentioned that the caveman used to pull their women around by their hair, he says it was wrong, the Indian women catch their men by their hair!

Men must see the world through the eyes of women.

Passion
The fire, the individuality, the you. It is internal, we are told to be what you are supposed to be, don’t be anything else. We have a life force and energy that if harnessed could cause more damage than an atomic explosion. But we need to practice harmony and frequency. We find our own frequency and can raise it to match another and harmonize, match it don’t contend with it or anything else, or you will be destroyed. The first sensation we receive, is our mother’s heartbeat. We all need to be one harmonious heartbeat.

Body
Your job is to master your own body, if you don’t master your body, nothing will work for you.


Spiritual
Anything else is spiritual, the trees, air, water etc. To attain oneself, you have to move outwards, not grow inwards or else you will become like the black stars and implode.

Shape shifting - is possible by becoming that shape - my feeling is that in making self believe so much that a super imposed image forms in your mind and the mind of those around you - by increasing your own frequency you can become anything i.e. a microwave than excite water, so that it changes and becomes hot.

When our energy rise, so does our body temperature. We have the ability to raise our own and other peoples frequencies.
In 1943 the government conducted a series of experiments called the Philadelphia Experiment, to teleport articles.

It partly succeeded and partly went wrong. On January 8/9th, there was a terrific light storm that was not so much a storm as an immense light show. (During this storm I, Sande, was sitting of the front porch, connected to the storm, Robert, my guide, very clearly spoke to me and told me not to feed the storm). Robert Morningsky video-taped the storm and on part of the film, the form of a ship appeared.

December 19/20 Nexus magazine reported that a ship from the Philadelphia Experiment materialized into one of the bays in Australian Waters and then disappeared. picture (Courier Mail, 31/12/91).

If you are not in tune with your passion you cannot create your own reality. Your passion is your responsibility. Who cares what others feel and think.

Your answers and salvation are within.

1930-1940 World War II
Madman Hitler tried to create the perfect man, and conducted bio-genetic experiments
Work on flying saucers research, development what is known as Foo Fighters - (14.2.1944)
The US developed an atomic weapon and tested it in Northern New Mexico
Others tried to develop Time Travel. Out in the universe, alien nations viewed us and were dismayed. Can you imagine the SS Eldridge going through into another dimension. Whilst testing a new protection device called radar uncontrollable bursts of energy, several flying saucers were forcibly landed. The area of landing was the Arizona area. The Amerindians respected the aliens found.

1948
Several discs crashed, so a military force called blue force was formed, to remove all evidence of UFOs. A live alien was captured and he was called EBE, Extraterrestrial Biological Entity.

It was found that he was not able to eliminate waste through the normal way, it was eliminate through the pores of his skin. He took sick, and a famous botanist Jaro Mendoza was called in, but in 1952, EBE died. A project called Sigma was instigated to call EBEs brothers to come and find him but to no avail.

The satellite dishes were placed on Indian lands, and the workers, believing that the Indian race was non consequential, so gave them quite a bit of information, believing that they would not understand it.


1947
In the locker of one of the landed UFOs were found human parts.


1953
December, contact was made with Aliens. Astronomers found a bunch of space ships going around the earth. Contact was made outside one of the Indian reservations.

1954
Eisenhower met with the greys and was offered certain secrets in return for the use of people for research and experimentation. They informed the president that they were a dying race and needed help to get their bodies stronger and healthier. An agency MJ-12 was brought into effect, to monitor this program of experiments and implantations.

Negotiations were completed and treaty was signed in California. In Florida another body of Aliens arrived, called by Robert Morningsky, as the Blues.

They offered other advice, not to deal with the greys, it would only lead to disaster, but to follow your own path. They would teach with peace and harmony if men would disarm and listen. The military said no deal! So they left, but a few decided to remain and stayed in Northern Mexico and Arizona and made a treaty with the Hopi Indians.

These Aliens are known by the Hopi as Star Warriors.

The greys left an ambassador called Krill and adopted an equilateral triangle as their insignia. The military force name as the Blue Force became the Delta Force and was formed to study the greys. Two bases were built and called several names, the Earth base - Hanger 18, Dreamland or Area 51.

The greys went underground under the reservations in the four corner area of Mexico, Utah, Arizona and California. It was for the purpose of monitoring the Blues. The Blues had to flee the reservation and go into hiding, a few of the Elders went with them.

The Hopi legend is that there were two races, the children of the feather who came from the skies, and the children of the reptile who came from under the earth. The children of the reptile chased the Hopi Indians out of the earth, these evil under-grounders were also called two hearts.

The government has signed a treaty with the children of the serpent. The Hopi have signed a treaty with the children of the feather.

The greys want a perfect body, for a long time, there have been cattle mutilations. Always missing, were the organs of elimination. The grey’s bodies are always cold, and they feed on our energies, our fears, our out of control energies.

When you are fearful and out of control, the greys use and feed on that energy. What we need to do is know that it is o.k. to feel fear, but to flow with it, then control it by redirecting it into a positive event.

(NB - Do we not have an underground installation at Pine Gap that is run by the Americans? - Sande).

Control your passion - life force - you decide what you want, get an attitude! Don’t be afraid to say no! The government wants your money for their pet projects and the greys want your life-force, your energy.

Ask yourself these things.
1. Do the government make laws for themselves or for people.
2. Do they allow us to do our own thing.
3. Are we under their control on government subsidies etc...
The greys decided to stay on earth and needed acceptance, so they hired an advertising agency to come up with some good ideas - hence - My favorite Martian, ALF, Star Trek, Star wars, Alien Nation and ET.

The new program the Mutant Ninja Turtles and the Dinosaurs?? Look and be aware of the symbol of the triangle - TriStar Pictures??? Don’t rely on the government for your support, help yourself where you can. See the movie JFK.


1959
The Jason Society decided to do something about global warming:
1. Blow a hole in the ozone layer, to let the heat out.
2. Develop underground for the elite societies.
3. Develop other planets into colonies. The last two were adopted, but the first has since be done.
Several things have been happening to engender fear and to give more control to the government:
1. Release of dangerous Psychotics and early release of killers and menaces to society.
2. Wars and upheavals.
3. Drug induced societies and drug dependent societies.
4. Mainland China.


Kachina Hopi - great spirit fire

Any living thing that is stressed is food for the children of the lizard.

Robert saw for the first time pictures of crop circles, and recognized them as Hopi symbols. He professed that if he could see them in their correct order, he would be able to ’read them’.

He feels that Mother earth is calling out Help me!


Question time
Q: - Why would governments hide the fact that aliens exist?
A: - If we knew, we would quit doing what the government want us to do.

Q: - Do the greys know they are aliens?
A: - The Greys have interbred - the more they interbreed, the more chance there is that they will lose their memories of who they really are, they become half human and half alien and can be quite mixed up emotionally. They must be 5th and 6th generation greys by now, and who don’t know they are greys. (Where do you think we get all our information from - disgruntled greys!!)

Q: - How can we tell the children of the greys.
A: - They make you feel creepy and have reptilian looking eyes and features. Greys have large eyes and have difficulty focusing. They are arrogant. They will be a strong body odor they tend to drain one of energy. They need to wear sunglasses - CIA????

The Blues
Short, big eyes, wouldn’t describe too much, because they are preparing for something big. You will feel them, and you will know them!! It is possible that a 6th generation grey could end up marrying a 6th generation blue.

Our misuse of our energy can aid a grey to shape shift and thus not be recognized.
(At the meeting, I was with another person, and while the intermission was on, we were quietly talking, when the person appeared from nowhere, and introduced himself to me, using my name. [my name had not been mentioned, neither did I know this man. I did not have a name tag on].

It was an extremely hot day, and when I shook his hand, it was freezing cold and dry. He shook hands with my partner also. We watched him move back through the hall and disappear into a small of people. We watched the front door, and he did not exit through there. But when we looked for him later, he was nowhere to be found.

I have no idea what it all meant, I only know that it was a strange experience. Neither my partner nor I could remember the man’s name, although he has said it twice. No one else had contact with the man, or remembered seeing anyone. My partner was a very logical person, not given to fanciful visions etc.)
On December 21, 1991, a fragmented video tape would trigger a series of events that would permit these papers to come to life.

On the video tape were bits and pieces of information that confirmed what some American Indians have known for some time... that Alien Life Forms exist and walk amongst us.

Due to the release of information on that tape, it is now possible to reveal further information that could not be spoken of before this time.

An ages old code of silence could slowly and cautiously be unveiled. In the late forties and early fifties, a movement began on the pueblo Indian Reservations of the Southwest. It was the intent of the Elders involved to raise an isolated group of young Warriors in the "Old Ways". The teachings began but would soon receive an unexpected presence... the "Star Warrior". (Please read the chronology included).

Hand in hand with the "medicine warrior" ways, the "Star Warrior" ways would become the foundation of education of the young warriors. Hand in hand with the Elders, the Star Brother taught the Secrets of the Universe. Raised in the way of the Kachina, the children knew that the Spirit of things always looks different.

The appearance of the Star Brother was not frightening, he only looked a little unlike us... and... he played with us as a child would.

Knowledge must be earned. Wisdom must be learned... the "Way of the Warrior" would confirm that which was discovered and would give suggestion for direction, but Passion for knowledge MUST be exhibited... and so, the code was born - "confirm but do NOT originate.

Suggest and direct but leave discovery to the seeker of knowledge". These full-blooded Indian boys and girls spent their lives learning through discovery... and one by one they went out into the "outside" world. The author of these papers was one of those youngsters. The material in these papers does not violate the code, it only confirms information which has been uncovered by others.

It is hoped, however, that these papers may give researchers an idea or suggestion for a different perspective which may help to uncover further information on the "Grand Overview".

The information in these papers should not be accepted in and of themselves. You must seek our confirmation for yourself. The credibility of these papers does not depend on its author, but rather on what you discover from your study and investigation of the material presented.

CONFIRM EVERYTHING FOR YOURSELF! THIS IS THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN BE SATISFIED WITH THE TRUTHS PRESENTED.

The material is presented in bold, forthright form. If you seek elaboration.

"Keys" are available upon request.



SECRETS OF THE AMERICAN INDIAN - HOPI LEGEND OF CREATION

The Hopi Indian Legend of Creation tells of three different beginnings.
One story says that we have arisen from an underground paradise through an opening called Sipapu.
The second story tells of the descendancy from our birthplace near a Blue Star.
And the third story relates of a migration from a faraway place across a great body of water.
All three are true.

What matters is not which came first, but that they are all true. (Focus not on the leaf, rather look at the whole tree).

This spot is thought by some to be Sipapu, entrance to the Hopi Underworld.
It is a sacred place of pilgrimage for the Hopi,
at the bottom of the Canyon of the Little Colorado above its junction with the Colorado River.

The story of Sipapu reveals that we emerged in a somewhat undeveloped physical state, much like the prehistoric man.

Our bodies were still forming and pliable, but our features were a bit brutish. Man, called Koyemsi or Mudhead had two small round lumps for ears, two protruding knobs for eyes and one large lump for a mouth. The head was smooth and round as a ball.

As man developed, his physical body and features became more refined until he looks as he does now.

THIS IS THE HOPI VERSION OF EVOLUTION - (Key 1)
- This story of creation says that the underground paradise was wondrous with beautiful clear skies and plentiful food sources.

It was because of the existence of those called Two Hearts, the bad ones, that refuge was sought in the upper world by the Hopi, the peaceful ones. The underworld was not destroyed but was only sealed up to prevent the Two Hearts from rising upon to the surface world.

(Suggested research Hollow Earth Theorists may want to look at this legend more closely. At least one government agency is said to continue monitoring the Hopi Indian, to see when and if a return into the ground begins).


THE SECOND STORY OF CREATION - (Key 2)
- Tells of the descent of the Hopi from the Blue Star of a constellation called the Seven Sisters. One version tells of our travel to earth on the back of Enki, the eagle. Grandfather, the Great Spirit allowed the first man to select his home from the many stars of the universe.

Enki told first man of his home earth, and brought him to visit. First man’s exploration of the earth convinced him that this was where he wanted his children to be born and to grow. First Man returned to the heavens to tell Grandfather of his decision. Grandfather was pleased and granted to first man the right to call earth his home.

First man soon returned to the green place or Sakwap with his family shortly afterwards.

(Many of the hero stories throughout time and through many different cultures refer to a valiant group of seven. Warriors descended from the stars often use the sign of the Seven Sisters on their shields and medallions).


THE STORY OF THE MIGRATION - (Key 3)
- From a great land across the big waters speaks of the departure from a paradise far away. This story parallels many other creation legends, but differs only in that no disaster or chaos seems to have caused the journey.

The purpose of the journey was to begin a new home and a new life. Some interpretations have the Hopi leaving their home in order to spread the Teachings of the Old Ones.


SORCERER VS MEDICINE MAN - (Key 4)
- In the Southwest, as in all areas of North America, there exist men and women who practice the use of power to achieve their goals. Sometimes called the medicine man or woman, sorcerer or shaman, these individuals have often been the subjects of books and even movies. Their practice is often referred to as magic.

Nothing is further from the truth. Magic is the un natural use of the Powers of Nature. They who turn to the practice of disharmony are more properly called witches, warlocks and sorcerers. (It is this disharmony that eventually undoes these practitioners and seals their doom). Medicine men and women work with the force of Nature.

(Move against the river, it weakens and ultimately destroys - move with the river, and the power of the river enters your soul and reveals its knowledge).

One series of popular books (Carlos Castaneda Series) refers to Don Juan. One of the Sorcerers of the Southwestern Desert. His apprentice was known as Carlos. Through the series of books, Carlos is guided by Don Juan and Don Genaro on a path to Sorcery.

The methods used by Don Juan are well known to the Medicine Men and Women of the Southwest and most of what is described in the first two books is a valid teaching technique of teaching by Distraction. However, due to the blinders Carlos refuses to move from his eyes, the two books seem to be rather confusing. This is not because of Don Juan.

Don Juan’s attempts to make him see in another way, are totally rejected by Carlos and the result is a mixed up re-telling of events. Do not accept the final book’s premise that Carlos has achieved the status of Sorcerer or knowing one - that is not the outcome. Those who refuse to remove the blinders and expand their awareness, will forever be trapped in a prison-world of their own making, and will never see the dangers around them.

(They who do not wish to see CANNOT; Those who do not wish to hear CANNOT; Those who do not wish to feel CANNOT. Suggestion - re-read the Don Juan comments carefully).


MEDICINE MAN/WOMAN (Key 5)
- At this point it would be well to mention that Medicine men/Woman are not necessarily healers. In fact, your medicine is your passion. Your medicine always makes you feel high while dancing, then dancing is your medicine. If you feel high while cooking, then cooking is your medicine. Your medicine will always help to cure that which ails you.

Your medicine will always give you the power to rise up and continue. (This medicine is of the spirit) Your medicine is also that which you do. Your conduct in the Land of Living Things, what you do is your signature in life and it is your medicine. how your treat others and how you react to the world is your medicine.

You medicine can help the ailments of others or it could, in fact poison them. What you do effects other at all times. (If your medicine is harmful to others, you, as a medicine man or medicine woman have failed in your task.) What you DO in the land of the living things is your medicine. (This medicine is of the body).

(It is the true medicine man/woman that makes the medicine of the spirit one with the medicine of the body.)

TRUTH AND WISDOM - (key 6)
- Truth and wisdom must always be sought out. Neither shall come easily. If at first, the teacher ignores you... Ask again!

All masters of Wisdom will succumb to the Passionate student. To demand a right to knowledge is to say you provide this for me. To ask for knowledge is to show respect for wisdom and to pursue knowledge is to show passion for truth. (In life, there are no RIGHTS, only privileges). Unlike power, truth seeks to come out. It does not hide, it is hidden by those wishing it to remain concealed. Truth and power are tools to be used. Not ends in themselves.

(Power can cover or uncover truth;...truth can only uncover power; Power can lead to truth...Truth always leads to power. Wisdom is knowing how to use both).

PASSION - (Key 7)
- In order to pursue your Passion, first you must recognize your passion. The following guidelines should help you to identify your passion:
1. Your PASSION always makes you feel on fire.
2. Your PASSION always makes time disappear (five hours always seems like five minutes.
3. Your PASSION occupies most of your waking thoughts.
4. Your PASSION forces you into action, you cannot sit.
5. Your PASSION is something you will always find time for.

AWARENESS - (Key 8)
- There are three parts to Awareness:
1. The Inner Spirit or the PASSION
2. The Outer Being or the BODY
3. The Outer Spirit or the SPIRITUAL
(Master the inner self first, the physical self secondly, then and only then, can the spiritual be conquered).

How can we master the more complex out of body experience if we cannot stop overeating? How can we stop overeating if we do not have Passion or discipline to accomplish it?

All spiritual teachings require mastery of the spirit. Development, or growth, is always outward, not inward. Mastery of the Inner Spirit or passion is first; Mastery of the body or Physical is next; Mastery of the Spiritual is the final step. Those who turn the order around will find their development moving inward and falling in on itself.

(Passion is the secret to all things. Master this and all things shall be revealed to you).

STAR WARRIORS - (Key 9)
- To follow the path of the STAR WARRIOR, you must first eliminate two concepts from your mind and spirit - Can’t and Impossible -. How long would you stay married to a spouse who constantly told you that you could not do something? You can’t go there; You can’t do that; You can’t say that! - Not very long.

So why then permit yourself to deny yourself? Remember, if you believe yourself inferior, you are! If you say to yourself, I cannot - you are right. If you say to yourself, I can - you are also right. To become who you wish to become, first establish who that person is and how they would act. Then, practice and rehearse everything that person would think and do.

(To become a deer, one must act, think, live and be as the deer - only then can the passion of the deer be yours).

In other words, create yourself. Write a script for your own movie. The hero is your. In the script, write all those things you wish for yourself, all those things you would like to do or feel. Then rehearse your script. Practice becoming the hero or heroine of your movie. Rehearse over and over again until you know the behavior instinctively. Slowly, you will begin to know how the hero acts and thinks. Slowly, you will become the hero of your movie and your life.

The only way to become a runner is to begin running - The only way to become a lover is to begin loving - The only way to become passionate is to practice passion - Practice being that which you wish to be...and soon you shall become it.

THE 10 COMMANDMENTS OF THE STAR WARRIORS - (Key 10)
1. I am a child of the Dancing Star born of chaos.
I AM BORN OF THE STARS. THE STARS WERE BORN OF CHAOS. THERE SHALL ALWAYS BE CHAOS, BUT I SHALL ALWAYS BE WARRIOR.

Only in challenge shall we find our greatest strengths and our weaknesses. Only in challenge shall our passions be made strong. The goal of life is outward development. NOT inner peace. Peace that brings no challenge means stagnation. Confidence in self wrought through challenge is TRUE peace.

2. I am fire.
I AM FIRE. I AM PASSION. ALL THAT I DO, I DO WITH PASSION. - Fire is passion. Passion is that inner force that distinguishes us from all others. Passion is that which makes the Bear become the Bear... never will you see the Bear trying to fly as the Eagle, for it is his passion to be the bear. Passion is the gift that allows us to be what we wish. To do anything without passion, is to go through the motions.

To be Passionless is to lose the fight of life. Those who have no fire are easy to conquer and manipulate. The study of Physics and other sciences tells us that all things are comprised of atoms which in turn are comprised of electrons, protons and neutrons...all are particles of energy or electricity. This energy cannot be destroyed, only changed. From these very same particles came the release of a basis of our existence, within our own bodies.

Herein, science has revealed the existence of a force unlike any on this planet, the force which directs each one of us in our path. This is our passion, this is our gift.

3. I see the fire in all things.
I SEE THE FIRE IN ALL THINGS - All things possess fire. All this have spirit. The only difference between man and animal is that they wear different skins. The only difference between man and all things is the skin, or outer covering. In the Hopi world, the spirit of a think is called kachina. It is the kachina that is the fire or passion. Those who can see and hear can learn from those kachinas around us. If you can communicate with another human being, you can communicate with the trees, the wind and all things of the earth.

4. I am but a visitor in the land of living things.
I AM BUT A VISITOR IN THE LAND OF LIVING THINGS - The skin we wear is but a temporary robe. That part of us which is most important is the inner spirit, or the passion. Yet, we must never forget that we are guests in this land and we must conduct ourselves as such. We respect all that is here.

That which we may receive in this place must be left here.. things cannot be taken with us, but all of our riches that we have accumulated in memories and knowledge shall go with us forever.

5. I walk the path of silence.
I WALK THE PATH OF SILENCE - In the Song of the morning sky, there is a line that says live as though you cannot speak. It means that what you do is more important than what you say. If you cannot speak, you must communicate your love and friendship through your actions. You must demonstrate that which you feel.

Let your actions be your measure. Only in silence can you learn. He who talks does not hear - only in silence can you defeat your enemy, he who makes no noise is invisible.

6. I am not seen or heard. I am only felt.
I AM NOT SEE OR HEARD, I AM ONLY FELT - The warrior must make himself felt. If he lives his life and the world has not felt him, he has failed. If he lives his life and grandfather has not felt him, he has failed. His passion must be experienced by others, not witnessed. He who uses his fire warms the world, he who shouts of his fire fills the world with noise.

7. I take only that which I can return.
I TAKE ONLY THAT WHICH I CAN RETURN. THE BALANCE OF NATURE AND HARMONY OF THE UNIVERSE MUST BE MAINTAINED - If the warrior takes a tree for use as a

Billy Crone #fundie books.google.com

2 Corinthians 5:21 "God made Him (Jesus) who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in Him (Jesus) we might become the righteousness of God." In other words, we are "made righteous with God" through the righteousness of Jesus Christ. It's imputed to me which is an accounting term. It speaks of God's Divine Ledger. Basically, God took all my unrighteousness, my sin, and placed it on the cross with Christ, then He put that on His side of the ledger. Then He took the perfect righteousness of Christ, and He put it on my side of the ledger. Pretty cool deal, huh? Yeah! You ain't a joking! That's why I'm eternally secure in my salvation because it's not based on my righteousness, no way, it's based on the righteousness of Christ! My righteousness is as filthy rags! His righteousness is perfect, it's complete, it cannot fail. That's why God calls me a "hagios" a "saint" a "holy one" not because of me, are you kidding me, but because of the righteousness of Christ that's "imputed to me." He only sees me as He sees Jesus. Try telling that one to your spouse! It's usually a hard concept to get through to them Biblically, especially if you're arguing, but hey, it's true, deal with it. So, is that kind of righteousness Paul is talking about, that we are to clothe ourselves with, get completely immersed with in our daily battle with satan and demons? Well ...I still don't think so. I say that because the righteousness of Christ is something given to me and the breastplate of righteousness, as we read, is something I put on. One is a gift, the other I do. However, I will say this. I do believe that positional righteousness is something

that does come in handy in our daily struggles, when we fail to put on the breastplate of righteousness, like we should. One guy says this.

BENEFITS OF POSITIONAL RIGHTEOUSNESS

"I stand righteous before God because of Christ 's righteousness being imputed to my account. His righteousness will never fail. Regardless of the duration or intensity of the battle, the righteousness of Christ will prevail. Our positional righteousness is not a piece of armor we put on. The saved are clothed in the righteousness of Christ from the moment of salvation, and that never changes. However, we do enter battle bearing the righteousness of Christ. It never leaves us. That brings peace to my heart. I am often weak in the flesh and the enemy is strong. In the heat of battle, while we are prone to stumble and fall, Satan is never able to penetrate the righteousness of Christ. I have been adopted into the family of God. I am counted righteous because of Christ my Savior. I may lose the battle now and again, but His righteousness always prevails. This "imputed righteousness " is the very foundation of the Christian life. This righteousness allows us access to God It opens the door of Heaven to us. It protects us against the eternal fires of Hell. But, it does not protect us from the attacks of the enemy. On the contrary, since the devil knows that he can 't have us because we belong to Christ, he doubles his efforts to defeat us in an attempt to discredit the Savior, the Church, and the God of glory.

Satan comes at us and says, "Look at how you just exploded in anger! Look at how you lied to cover your tracks ! Look at how you lusted after that girl! Some Christian you are! " How do you answer him if his charges are true? You answer by applying Christ 's imputed righteousness: "You are right, Satan, I did just sin. But my eternal life does not depend on my sinless behavior or perfect track record. I am trusting in the blood of Jesus Christ and His righteousness credited to my account. Take it up with Him!"

Naomi #fundie answers.yahoo.com


Atheists, do you understand why God must allow birth defects to exist?
God made the world without anything bad be WE messed it up and God cannot mess with free will.

God DID create the world perfect. He DID make perfect DNA, but when Adam and Eve ate the forbidden fruit, God had no choice but to allow there to be consequences. God is love but he is also justice.

Plus, isn't it kind of a cheap shot to attack God for allowing birth defects? Isn't this exploiting a terrible thing in order to win an argument? Isn't that tacky?

Aaron Clarey #fundie captaincapitalism.blogspot.com

There are No More Calvins
It was within a very short period of time I knew that school, and teachers, were evil.

Oh laugh as you might, but I am not joking. There is no more evil institution in this country than the veritable prison we condemn our children to for a mandatory 13 year sentence. Yes we all turn a blind eye claiming it for "education" and the "future" of our children. But in the end the education system's real purpose is two fold:

1. To outsource children to a large baby sitting operation so (predominantly) women can pursue a career instead of raise their children and

2. Employ generations' worth of talentless, lazy hacks who want an easy way out, 3 months a year off, and are scared stiff of real work - teachers (and the increasing number of administrators).

This is not politics.
This is not hyperbole.
This is not me angry over a lost childhood.

It is the truth.

School is nothing more than child abuse as two distinct groups of adults are using it for ulterior purposes.

Naturally there are some "good teachers," and these teachers believe in education, try their best to educate the children, and genuinely want what's best for them. However, the remaining 98% of teachers are not "good teachers" and are there first and foremost for themselves.

This results in an environment that is toxic for children, and certainly not one that can achieve education. Year after year, children are forced to leave home and sit in buildings that are architecturally similar to prisons. The teachers (who by the way have the lowest IQ's out of most majors) are not only uninspired to teach them, but really don't care. Alas, overtime this combination results in teachers who are not just incapable of teaching, educating, and inspiring the curiosity of young children, but teachers who grow to resent the children, resulting in indifference (reading from the book), if not outright petty and indiscriminate punishment. Sure enough, over time a child goes from being wide-eyed and hopeful kindergartener, to a 4th grade zombie trying to stay awake.

Of course, children may not understand the underlying political reasons why they're sent to a prison-like institution and the country's least competent or caring individuals are chartered with educating them. But they do have genetically programmed within them self-respect and intuitively know when they're getting screwed. Alas a natural animosity forms between students and their prison guard teachers. A healthy distrust between teacher and student. And soon in a very Calvin and Hobbes like way, students and teachers fall into their natural roles of sworn enemies.


Or at least that's how it was in the 80's.

For whereas back in the day this abuse galvanized us into distrusting our teachers, even hating them, the same cannot be said of young students today. For what I see now is NOT the independent minded spirit of a Calvin, questioning why he has to be in school, giving his teachers guff, fighting them at every corner, but instead mindless, conforming lemmings who have plain had the independent thought kicked out of them.

Now this could be due to any number of things.

Teachers becoming BFF's with their students instead of actually teaching (not that they could in the first place anyway)
Ritalin and other drugs destroying the Calvin's of the world making them docile and compliant.
Emasculated husbands breeding emasculated, testosterone deficient boys.
Or the forcing of young female behavior on young boys, turning today's classrooms into compliant, obedient classrooms full of sheeple (and consequently no independent, self-respecting thinkers).

But whatever the cause, there are no more Calvins. There are no more rebels. There are no more independent minded thinkers. And it is a devastation to society.

The reason can be amply seen in what I deem to be the first fully and completely brainwashed generation - The Millennials.

Nowhere can you find a group of people who adamantly insist they are independent minded, but are the epitome of conformist at the same time.

The Millennials all rush to sport hipster fashion to prove their independence...only to look like uniformly interchangeable cattle in the coffee shop.

They all claim to be smart, going to college, getting even MORE education...only to major in the same worthless liberal arts drivel, obviously unable to the 4th grade math that would have avoided this consequential financial fate of such stupidity.

Hey, those tattoos and earplugs are like TOTALLY you giving the bird to the system man! Only to sheepishly get the surgery done to remove them.

And oh yes, politics. The most "independent minded" and "educated" generation ALL, like lemmings, voted TWICE for a man who just mortgaged their futures with incredible peacetime deficit spending. And they were either too stupid, or too lazy to know it.

There are other examples (global warming, privilege, triggers, white males, and "evil corporations maaaan") and CERTAINLY the Millennials are not the only generation to be duped into conformity (grunge in the 90's anyone?), but the larger point is the one thing they claim to be is what they are precisely not.

Independent thinkers.

For while people may claim to be "rebels" or "Calvins" or "SJW/OWS Warriors" fighting against the "system" they don't realize they are 100%, completely owned, programmed, duped and operated by the system.

They actually BELIEVED their teachers.
They actually are BFF's with their teachers.
They not only have no problems going to a veritable prison from 5-18, but then are so hopelessly conformist, they consciously BORROW life-crippling levels of debt to to attend an additional 4-6 years more of the same educational-indoctrinist slop.

They swallowed whole what their government-sponsored teacher-indoctrinators told them and are just too stupid (or brainwashed) to realize it.

Sadly, this has serious costs and consequences to society because without independent thinkers, without genuine Calvins, there are no innovators. There are no creators. There are no geniuses who can look outside the box and come up the next cure for cancer. Technological advancement and economic growth will slow, resulting in lower standards of living than what we could have had. But worse, with nothing but a bunch of conforming sheeple, the "system" can easily manipulate, control, and own society. And that has always been the goal of the leftist education system.

Of course, try telling that to the "independent minded" tatted up, earloop wearing, liberal-arts-majoring "intellectual giants" who vote to mortgage their own futures while all claiming to be Calvins.

Lordareon #fundie forum.nationstates.net


But the underlining cause is homosexuality itself homosexuality is not a permanent state were thos who are homosexuals are born that way no it mainly stems for the persons upbringing such as sexual abuse as a child etc can lead to homosexuality we must not treat homosexuality as a ethnic grouping it must be handled as a disorder not a state of being we must cure not ignore.

evendence.

Richard P. Fitzgibbons, MD, Director of Comprehensive Counseling Services at a sate psychiatric research center, wrote in a Jan. 24, 2014 letter to the World heath organization:

"There is substantial evidence based on years of clinical experience that homosexuality is a developmental disorder.

Every child has a healthy need to identify positively with the parent of the same sex, have same-sex friendships, a positive body image and a confident sexual identity. Homosexual feelings can occur when these needs are not met appropriately.

The adolescent's unmet needs become entangled with emerging sexual feelings and produce same-sex attraction.

Therapy consists in helping male clients to understand the emotional causes of their attraction and to strengthen their masculine identity. It has been our clinical experience that as these men become more conformable and confident with their manhood, same-sex attractions resolve or decrease significantly in many patients."

trustyourperceptions #sexist #crackpot trustyourperceptions.wordpress.com

Mary Daly, who wrote about Life’s parthenogenic origin before the evidence had even accrued, – not only said men’s war against women requires continuous injections of masosadism to block Womankind, but also that men block women’s “Memory of Gynocentric Origins.” Amazingly, our gynocentric origins have now been substantiated as fact.

Scientists have known since 1984 that males block genes in females (called “genomic imprinting”) in order to disable females’ parthenogenic capability, – in order to block parthenogenesis. In mammals, it’s believed males block one gene in females – gene Igf2 – to prevent parthenogenesis. In 2004, Japanese scientists succeeded in making a baby mouse without sperm by unblocking male-blocked genes in two eggs – two eggs they then merged. (Tomohiro Kono, et al, Tokyo University).

Human males are also believed to block gene Igf2 in human females (De Sousa, Rosalind Institute, Scotland). Males block parthenogenesis in order to make females make males. (Trust will explore parthenogenesis and the origin of maleness in the next set of posts). Males are genetic parasites, possibly having originated as parasitic DNA or an infectious genetic virus (noted by French biologist Claude Combes in Parasitism: The Ecology and Evolution of Intimate Interactions), or later, simply by mutation (see geneticists Sykes, Jones or Graves). Maleness appears to have evolved on Earth independently at least three times (but probably many many more, and most likely in different ways), yet maleness as a biological strategy is the same: intercept females’ power of generation and harness that power to perpetuate yourself. Parthenogenesis – life without males – was once the norm (and for some species, still is). Mammalian females, though blocked, though now incapable of successful parthenogenesis, have not yet lost this genetic relic.

“(T)he fathers have recognized (the Memory of Gynocentric Origin) as their enemy,” Daly wrote, “and they have worked to destroy its vestiges in women…Since men cannot by themselves completely erase this Memory from women, they must channel women into the erasure ourselves…The most effective means employed by males to induce women to perform this dirty work has been and continues to be the manufacture of illusions which trigger the mechanism of Self-hate and horizontal violence against women. Thus programmed and activated in the direction of Self-destruction, women actively will not to re-member deep Memory, for woman-identified knowledge has been made to seem repugnant…Women whose memories have been this destroyed become converted into walking, talking subliminal messages/messengers of the phallocratic belief system…and are thus ‘purified’ of even the desire to re-member…”

Teddybearmiller #fundie patheos.com

As Joyce Meyer said: When one group of individuals scream and kick to get what they consider to be their rights; they take away my rights. Is that fair or prejudice? The problem is not Human Rights or Constitutional Rights being violated; it is the homosexual judges and officials who are making these unjust decisions which take away the Rights of Christians to live and practice their beliefs. Even the US money has on it: IN GOD WE TRUST. At one time judges and officials had to take an oath sworn upon the bible and in the name of God. I guess that God has been flushed down the toilet and exchanged for secular rights. The owners of this Bakery in Oregon should counter sue the lesbians/homosexual community for defamation of character, slanger toward their business, loss of business and income, refusing them their Christian rights and beliefs and many more RIGHTS of these Christian bakers that have been violated. How much income would this bakery have earned for future sales to non-homosexuals? What authority does the Oregon Bureau of Labor and Industries have to enforce a judgement against someone for refusing service to anyone, lesbian or otherwise? This is an attack on Christianity moreso than the individuals. They were targeted by the homosexual movement/agenda. Which has planned for years to attack Christians and anyone else who doesn't agree with their perverted life-style. Go back to the mid 1980's and find the book which outlines the plan to subdue any opposition to homosexuality. Targeting Christians being part of that agenda. Using the media another main method. Their plan/agenda was orchistarted an dput together by professional propaganda specialists. After the Ball: How America Will Conquer Its Fear and Hatred of Gays in the '90s is a book published in 1989 by Marshall Kirk and Hunter Madsen.[11] It argues that after the gay liberation phase of the 1970s and 1980s, gay rights groups should adopt more professional public relations techniques to convey their message. It was published by Doubleday and was generally available.

According to a Christian Broadcasting Network article by Paul Strand, Sears and Osten argue that After the Ball follows from "a 1988 summit of gay leaders in Warrenton, Virginia, who came together to agree on the agenda" and that "the two men (Kirk and Madsen) proposed using tactics on 'straight' America that are remarkably similar to the brainwashing methods of Mao Tse-Tung's Communist Chinese – mixed with Madison Avenue's most persuasive selling techniques."[13] The article goes on to claim that films such as Brokeback Mountain are part of this "well-planned propaganda campaign".http://www.massresistance.org/docs/is..

Unknown author #fundie christiandomesticdiscipline.com

A Domestic Discipline (DD) marriage is one in which one partner is given authority over the other, and has the means to back up that authority, usually by spanking. The application and practise of DD in each marriage is as unique as the individuals who make up that marriage. There is no "One Ring of Power" in the Domestic Discipline world, to which all DD couples must bow; no singular path to "true DD enlightenment". What works well for one DD couple may not be a good fit for another marriage. Therefore, you may see many different suggestions espoused on this site and elsewhere.

A Christian Domestic Discipline (CDD) marriage is simply a traditional, male-led, Christian marriage which utilises aspects of Domestic Discipline. It is set up according to Biblical standards.

Therefore, in a CDD marriage:

The husband is the head of the household, whilst the wife is submissive to her husband as if the Lord Himself was her husband. See Eph. 5:22-24.
The husband is to love his wife as himself, and as Christ loved the church. He is to be a servant, and leads by example. He is to lay down his life for her. See Eph. 5:25-29.
The wife is to reverence her husband. She is to obey him, so long as his instructions are not in opposition to God's commands. See Titus 2:5, Acts 5:29.
He has the ultimate authority in his household, but this authority is tempered with the knowledge that he will answer to God for his actions and decisions. The final decision rests with him, and therefore, the final responsibility, whatever the outcome, is his to bear. A wise husband will not make a major decision without prayerfully asking God for wisdom, and without seeking his wife's counsel. Prov. 20:5

He is to be the head of the home. She is to be the heart of the home.

He is not a dictator. She is not a doormat.

He is not a overbearing Lord of the Estate, seeking to trample over his family. She is not some weak-minded lass, needing to be molly-coddled, or seeking to get straightened around.

He has the responsibility for leading his family and is accountable before God for their well-being and development. He has the authority to spank his wife for disciplinary reasons, but in real CDD marriages, this authority is taken quite seriously and usually happens rarely. Most CDD marriages do use spanking, generally for serious offences, such as the "Four D's" (Disobedience, Disrespect, Dishonesty, or Dangerous [as in dangerous choices... reckless driving, disobeying doctor's orders, etc]). Some CDD marriages also use non-corporal disciplines, such as writing lines, or the temporary forfeiture of a favourite privilege. Again, every marriage is unique, and CDD is much more than just corporal punishment or spanking.

CDD is not a "magic pill", and this website does not claim CDD will prevent all marital rows. It is simply a tool, one method which many couples round the world feel is quite effective in strengthening their marriages, and improving the quality of their relationship.

CDD is the husband loving his wife enough to patiently guide and unselfishly cherish her.
CDD is the wife loving her husband enough to follow his leadership and trust his direction.
A Christian marriage should embody selfless love and true romance.
A Christian couple is to be a reflection of Jesus and His Bride.

How clear is your reflection?

This style of traditional male-led Christian marriage may seem unusual in today's "modern", liberal, politically correct, anti-God culture. This unholy culture, with its radically selfish feminism, and wholesale bias against true manhood, launches relentless attacks against traditional Christian family values. (Keep in mind, this is also the culture with well over 50% divorce rates, both in the church and in the secular world. Most rational people would agree the "modern" way doesn't work so well!)

Romans 12:2 says, And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect will of God. Here, Paul warns us not to live like the world, not to be fashioned like them, or molded to the same pattern as they are, but to be changed. Strong's Concordance says, "literally or figuratively "metamorphose".

The traditional male-led Christian marriage has been practised throughout history and is still practised in many parts of the world today. Our American friends, for example, need only look back to the era just prior to the 1960's. Domestic Discipline was a widely accepted premise, oft seen in films at the cinema and programmes on the telly. Many companies showed it in advertisments. If you prefer not to utilise "modern, popular culture" as a guide, consider that DD also has quite a long history as a common literary theme, dating back hundreds of years, from several cultures worldwide.

Conservapedia #fundie conservapedia.com

10 telltale signs you are on your way to becoming a lonely atheist nerd


1. When you are at your girlfriend's house, you cannot stop scowling at her mother's pictures of Jesus. Please see: The atheist and evolutionist helpline.

2. You own more pocket protectors than shirts.

3. You tell your girlfriend that she is merely a result of blind random natural forces and there is nothing particularly special about her. Of course, this lets her know that you are an insensitive liar and she starts crying (see: Atheism and deception and Atheism and social intelligence).

4. American atheists are significantly less likely to get married than the general population and atheism is significantly less appealing to women. When you had problems finding a wife, you refused to consider the possibility that you could be the problem and instead blamed it on womankind.

5. You spend countless hours arguing with your girlfriend on the true definition of atheism and insist you are not diluting the definition of atheism given in most encyclopedias of philosophy.

6. You fly into an uncontrollable rage when your girlfriend brings up Shockofgod's question.

7. After your last girlfriend dumped you, you reminded yourself that you still have a lot of atheist subscribers at your YouTube atheism channel and your Reddit atheist friend list is quite large. In addition, your mother no longer believes you are going to get married.

8. You try to convince every woman you meet to visit atheists' websites. You do this because you are mad at Conservapedia for pointing out that the web traffic tracking companies Alexa and Quantcast indicate that a majority of web visitors to prominent atheists' websites are males (Please see: Atheism appears to be significantly less appealing to women).

9. You think Richard Dawkins has machismo or try to debate Conservapedians on the true definition of the word machismo despite the definitions the Merriam Webster dictionary offers.
See Atheism and marriageability !!!

10. Your girlfriend tells you that there needs to be better communication between you two so you buy her a Star Trek USB Communicator that will allow you two to "Stay connected Starfleet style" via Skype and IM programs. You also suggest that you and your girlfriend work on Wikipedia articles together.


Attention male atheists! Nerds obviously have a significantly less likelihood of marrying. Lo and behold, as noted earlier, American atheists are significantly less likely to get married than the general population. Click HERE to read more about atheist male nerds.

Grayson Gilbert #fundie patheos.com


I find it puzzling that this topic is still up for debate, yet the sentiments of many Western Christians is that you can love Jesus without loving the church. Verbose arguments abound on the church not being confined to a building – that all spaces are sacred and therefore, filled with divine presence. The well-worn argument that the church does not consist of the physical space you occupy while worshipping God, but instead the body of believers, contains just enough truth to lure readers to their inevitable conclusion:
Church attendance is optional. Serving the brethren, again, is optional. Loving the brethren? Still optional. Feeling guilty about not wanting to go to church? Don’t worry about it; that’s the fault of institutionalized religion.

They then do a follow up post called The Real Reason Evangelicals and Millennials [insert people group] are Leaving the Church, where again, they pander to what people want to hear. So long as you subject the Scriptures to tokenism and appeal to sentimentalism, people will eat it up. Soon enough they’ll be in the woods celebrating “communion” with Coca Cola and cookies.

I’m not denying that some churches simply aren’t churches per the definition of Scripture; what I am speaking against is the underwhelming opinion that you can somehow be part of the universal church and reject the local church, or that the local church is made up of you and your family on a Sunday morning as you lay in bed and reject communion with the saints and sitting under the proclamation of the Scriptures.

The reality is that the entire New Testament presupposes you are going to be part of an institutionalized, local church. People wish to delve into semantics and separate the location from the body of believers, but that isn’t the point of defining what the local church is. Yes, the building could be demolished overnight and the church would still exist – however, that local church still meets in time and space. That local church still has a designated structure made up of elders, teachers, deacons, evangelists, etc., for the edification of the whole man until the saints reach unity in the faith and the knowledge of Christ (Eph. 4:11-16). The church is made up of living stones that is being built up as a spiritual house into a holy priesthood for service to Christ (1 Pt. 2:5) and they are members of one another (Rom. 12:5; Eph. 4:25, 1 Cor. 12:12-27), and are present within a local community.
Even still, the author of Hebrews indicates that we are to not forsake gathering with God’s people because of the hope we have in Christ, so that we might encourage one another to perseverance in the faith (Heb. 10:19-25). The idea being presented is that the confidence we have to enter the presence of God through Christ, being able to hold to the hope we profess without wavering, and drawing near to God with a sincere heart in full assurance, is directly related to the notion that we are intimately connected to this local body.

What’s more than all of this is that a local church is not a church without some semblance of this God-given functionality and structure. A group of three people without the headship of elders and teachers is not the church. They are part of the global church – but they are not a substitute for the local church. There are always exceptions to the rule, yet the exception does not prove the rule; special provisions do not institute a normative ecclesiology. The text never presupposes the rugged individualism indicative of American Evangelicalism.

We know Paul was prohibited from communing with the saints whilst in chains. We also know that many churches are confined to secret rendezvous, have gone without official teachers/elders for a period, etc. No one is speaking of things literally barring another from being able to be among the saints and sit under the Word, or a temporary, ecclesial detriment; it is the willful forsaking of the brethren and the eschewing of God’s good gifts.

While there are things worthy of introspection from the church – I don’t believe this to be one of them. There aren’t a host of reasons why people are fleeing from the church in groves. There aren’t many reasons why professing Christians are leaving the church. There may be healthy reasons why one leaves a particular local church, but when it comes to reasons why one leaves the church entirely, there’s really only one: they don’t love the church. Synonymously, they don’t love Christ.

The apostle John is about as straightforward as one can get in saying that the way children of God and children of the devil can be distinguished is that children of the devil are those who eschew righteousness and the love of the brethren (1 Jn. 3:10). This isn’t some strange new teaching – it is what they (and we) have heard from the beginning (v. 11-13). If that’s not clear enough, he then says that anyone who hates his brother remains in death and is a murderer (vv. 14-15).

Furthermore, he condemns mere tokenism toward brotherly love; one must demonstrate this love in action and truth (v. 18). Much like the author of Hebrews, John maintains that by these things we will not only have knowledge that we are children of God, but assurance of our salvation (vv. 19-20).

The modern notion that you can worship God just as much by yourself as you can within the confines of the church is patently false and anti-biblical. It flies in the face of the Scripture’s teaching on the importance of the body of Christ, the proper structure of the church, and the goodness of the spiritual gifts that God has bestowed for the benefit of His people.

I sense that if one were to have a conversation with the apostle John on this, it would go similarly:

Objector: But what if the church damaged me?
John: Go to church.
O: But what if people hurt me at one point?
J: Go to church.
O: But what if I feel like I connect more with God in nature than with people in the church?
J: Go to church.
O: But what if I…
J: [interjects] Are you dying?
O: No.
J: Are you imprisoned?
O: No…
J: Is there anything prohibiting you from going to church?
O: Well, I feel like…
J: [interjects again] You can’t love God without loving His people and loving His people means that you die to self, bear with one another in love, and obey the commands of Scripture for your personal and corporate edification, in order that God might be glorified. Go. To. Church.

While the church can often be a motley group, Christ has enduring patience with His bride. His death accomplished her redemption, yet we live in this eschatological tension wherein we still sin against one another. In the love of the brethren, sin can be properly dealt with through a biblical, disciplinary process, or simply in overlooking the offense of a brother or sister whose actions are not indicative of normal behavior. In similar character to our Savior, we must be willing to bear with one another, in love and patience, as we are all progressively sanctified. I understand deep wounds can be caused – yet the Scriptures give us no option to withhold forgiveness from an individual, or forsake the assembling of God’s people. Summarily stated, loving God is inseparable from loving those within the household of faith. You cannot demonstrate a love for the brethren by abdicating from fellowship with and participation in service to one another.

Martin #fundie premierchristianity.com

JoKing: Martin,
I have never done anything to promote sexual immorality. I have led a heterosexual life, entirely within marriage. You are confused, and abusive. Making false accusations really is wickedness, according to Jesus. I do not decry the Old Testament. I apportion to it a lesser authority than you do, by submitting it to the authority of Jesus, my Lord. Honouring Jesus is not wickedness. I question the infallibility of the Old Testament, because Scripture makes no claim for it. The word "infallible" does not occur in any text. That is not wickedness; it is honouring the text, without adding to it, as you do. Your attachment to human invention above Scripture, seems close to wickedness.

Martin: Seems to me that you are promoting homosexuality here.
The authority of Jesus gives the same authority to the Old Testament as the New, you are not honouring Jesus.
Does that which comes from the mouth of God Himself have the capability of error?
So where have I added to Revelation?

JoKing: By your "Seems to me that you are promoting homosexuality" based on absolutely no evidence, shows what is quite obvious to all who read you: that you are so obsessive about attacking homosexuals, that your judgment is blinded by any disagreement. Anyone who opposes you. on any issue, you lump together with the "hateful sexual deviants", and pour your bile over all of us.
Well, I rank your rank company less bearable than some homosexuals I have had the privilege of knowing. Your addiction to what seems like a ultra-reformed system of dogma, and the way you express it, is entirely antithetical to the tender mercies of a compassionate God. That causes real concern that you have no real knowledge of Jesus, his character and purposes.
In your fleshly attempts at arguing for the "truth", you betray the cause of Jesus in all you say. You really need to beware of the real risk that your claims of faithful service will be met with "Go away, you worker of iniquity, I never knew you".
To all you people who read this, my apologies to have to speak so directly, but this man is presenting a terrible, harsh, substitute for the truth of the Gospel of Jesus.

Martin: Based on the fact that you are busily supporting those who are pushing sexual immorality here. If that isn't promoting homosexuality I don't know what is. I'd be quite happy to debate o.ther matters, and in fact do. It is preferable to having to say the same things over and over to those who will not listen. The doctrines of grace are the tender mercies of a loving God. A God who cares so much for His Creation that He will enter it and suffer abuse at the hands of His Creation in order to redeem His Creation.

JoKing: Martin, your "fact" is a fabrication of your dubious thought-processes. I do not, and have not, supported homosexuals, beyond offering them social acceptance. I oppose the rejection by some of the authority of NT authors. I would do that to anyone regardless of their sexual behaviour. I have repeatedly said this.
You seem utterly unable get your rigid thought-patterns to grasp the difference.
But I do subject the OT to the authority of Jesus. And it seems you reject that stance, but have no argument to back up your opposition to it. I wonder if your stand is as real as you make out. Do have plans to stone adulteresses?

Martin: That you have attacked me for my response to those who are making LGBT supporting claims gives the lie to your first statement.
That you imagine you are qualified to "subject the OT to the authority of Jesus" demonstrates that you do not understand that the OT is as much the words of the Lord Jesus as any words written in red in your Bible.
Clearly you do not understand the nature of the Bible, as your question "Do have plans to stone adulteresses" demonstrates.
You seem to delight in abusing me, when you are claiming to be addressing my abuse. It seems to me that you are entirely dishonest.

JoKing: Martin. It is you who first used uncivil terms to attack me, and you might notice that My responses a\re always more measured. Yet you continue to do so. You say I "attacked you", that I "imagine I am qualified", I "do not understand",(twice), I "delight in abusing" you, I am "entirely dishonest". Quite a catch! None of this is acceptable. I would encourage you to see if you can say what you want to, without such abuse.

Martin: I see nothing 'uncivil' in what I said. My interactions with David and Peter have taken place over a considerably longer period than you have been around. It has been necessary to become more forceful in that period.

JoKing: "Martin. These are the abusive personal comments in your last:
you have attacked me
you imagine you are qualified...
you do not understand (twice)
You seem to delight in abusing me,
you are entirely dishonest"
You could have made your points with phrasing such as:
"You apposed me strongly
You may not be qualified...
I suggest you may have not understood/.misunderstood
???? no suitable phrase comes to mind - perhaps the thought is too abusive
I fear I have to doubt your honesty"
Even like that the personal nature of your comments is aggressive because you are not debating the points, just accusing me of various failings. Peter has expressed a similar opinion of your mode of expression, and he has a longer experience of you, apparently.
With absolutely no interest in being provocative, and with no intention of personal attack, I have no aim beyond finding out how your reconcile - Lev 20 10: “If a man commits adultery with another man’s wife – with the wife of his neighbour – both the adulterer and the adulteress are to be put to death."
- with your current position. What do you think? Is it a practice that would be good for our society to adopt? Would you, if you had the power. It is God's inspired word, is it not?
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Martin: It is very simple, Leviticus contains three strands of law, the moral, the ceremonial and the civil law. The Christian does not live in the ancient state of Israel, so the civil law has no role. Of such is those laws with a penalty attached for breaking them such as the one for adultery. Equally, the Temple and it's sacrifices are no more, so the ceremonial is done away with by the sacrifice of Christ on the cross. The only law that remains is the moral law, which the Christian seeks to keep from love of His Saviour.

Ron Hamman #homophobia #fundie #wingnut frontiersman.com

Will the Antichrist be a homosexual?

In answering this question, it is important to assert the question does not originate with me, lest someone out there think that I am bringing some new doctrine out to bolster the political climate. But as the study of Bible prophecy includes verbiage as to the behavior of the one called “that Wicked” by Paul in II Thessalonians, it is not only a legitimate question to ask, but also one to answer.

While the word “homosexual” is not in the Bible, the behavior of those who practice homosexuality, and God’s estimation of them, very definitely is. When the word came into existence I cannot tell you, but what we can say for sure is that when Noah Webster published his first dictionary in 1828, it was not included. This means that homosexuality is a modern word invented to replace the word Noah Webster did include, sodomy, defined as a crime against nature. This is historical revisionism in action.

Sodomy is defined in scripture by two things, the first being that of where it began: Sodom. In Genesis 13:13 we have the first mention of the men of Sodom, pronouncing that they “were wicked and sinners before the Lord exceedingly.” Their saga is continued in chapters 18 and 19 with their sin being so great that not only does God say that it “is very grievous,” but he himself comes down to destroy them with fire, the rubble of which still stands as a warning to us today.

While the Genesis account does not graphically describe their sin, leading some to deny it as being the same as homosexuality, their sin is obviously just that by how it is described: lying with mankind as with womankind. What other conclusion can be reached when they want to “know” the men who were in Lot’s house, the same word the Bible uses in Genesis 4 in relation to the conception of Cain? And that Lot himself understood their intentions is clear; not only did he call such behavior wicked, but he also offered his virgin daughters as substitutes, which the men of Sodom refused.

And one more thing: Sodomy is the only sin for which God came down from heaven to destroy. Though God dealt with many other sins in various ways, there is no other for which he came down from heaven to verify and destroy. In the New Testament, sodomy is declared to be “against nature.” And of the men, Paul in Romans 1 says they leave “the natural use of the woman….” In effect, there is no greater sin against God than to reject how he made you, and no greater sin against women than to reject how God made them.

But will the Antichrist be a homosexual? Having seen what the Bible says of sodomy, we have no further to look than the book of Daniel, chapter 11 to find our answer. It says, “Neither shall he [Antichrist] regard… the desire of women….” As I said at the onset, I am not the first to draw attention to this, but the verbiage is clear.

From a lost perspective, the reason sex sells, pornography is profitable, and prostitution is “the world’s oldest profession” is mankind’s desire of women. From Christianity’s position, it is part of the glue for the bond of marriage and the propagation of a godly heritage. But homosexuality does not regard this — in their unbridled lusts they burn for their own gender.

But consider this: The time is ripe for such a leader. Indeed, it should not be surprising that the one who is against everything Biblical and Christian should be a partaker of so great a sin; there is no greater way to reject the Creator than to reject your gender and his design for it. And at what other time have we seen such perversion come out of the closets onto our streets, threatening violence if we do not accept their ways?

Is it any wonder that Revelation 13 says that this same Antichrist will make war with the saints of the tribulation, and overcome them? Are they not now readying themselves to make it illegal to “offend” them in any way, calling it hatred to preach against their sin? Is it because they love us? The time is ripe for such a man.

But remember that sodomy is the one sin that God left heaven and came to earth to destroy. Could it be that this will be the predominate sin on earth when Christ descends from the clouds to fight against the armies of wickedness? And will it be just a coincidence that the Antichrist will be the very first occupant of the lake of fire, tasting eternal death 1,000 years before even the devil himself?

You be the judge.

Noam Chimpsky #fundie forums.fark.com

(in the fabulous world of Noam Chimpsky, the WBC was created by Al Gore to discredit conservative Christians, and the Phelps are examples of the extreme left wing)

WBC is an invention of Al Gore and the Democrats. It was constructed as a strawman that behaves in the manner that they want all Christians to be portrayed. Not only are the Phelps' Democrats but they were extreme leftist fundraisers for the Democrat Party.

This verdict will barely put a dent in George Soros' pocketbook but you will see the leftist organizations such as the ACLU backing Phelps and they will find a Democrat judge to flush it. They will claim 1st Amendment but it will all about Democrats protecting Democrats.

Rick #fundie goddidntsaythat.com

(=Context:The site linked is based around studing and talking about translation errors in the Bible=)

Let not any verse teach what another passage blatantly contradicts. The harmony of Scripture is one of the reasons it’s claims of inspiration is justified. Simply stated, we are not to interject man’s interpretation but rather study to find the divine interpretation. How is this done you ask? Harmony of scripture is one such way.
God DID expressly condemn homosexuality of any gender. Both in the Old law and the new.
Lev. 18:22. And Romans 1:24-27. Just to name 2. There are dozens more references but these prove the point well.
To offer up such a unsupported and misguided theory of interpretation shows your lack of understanding of God’s word.
1 john 4:1 “Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world.”
One way to test the spirits is by harmony of scripture. If I pose an interpretation that contradicts the bible, I am at fault not the bible. I must align to its truth not manipulate it to meet my personal desires whatever they are.
I pray you will repent of this false and misleading interpretation that will cost many who believe you to loose their souls.

John Burton #fundie charismanews.com

Considering the spotlight that homosexuality, transgenderism and various sexual deviances have demanded, we must engage in a conversation about the ramifications such activity—in the church.

In fact, the so called "gay Christian" movement is gaining traction all over the world as is the sanctioning of homosexual marriage in some of the largest denominations.

Unfortunately, immorality has always infected the church. In the book of Revelation we see a severe example of this, and an equally severe reaction by God:

"I know your works, love, service, faith, and your patience, and that your last works are more than the first. But I have a few things against you: You permit that woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophetess, to teach and seduce My servants to commit sexual immorality and eat food sacrificed to idols. I gave her time to repent of her sexual immorality, but she did not repent. Look! I will throw her onto a sickbed, and those who commit adultery with her into great tribulation, unless they repent of their deeds. I will put her children to death, and all the churches shall know that I am He who searches the hearts and minds. I will give to each one of you according to your deeds" (Rev. 2:19-23).

The church in Thyatira was on God's radar for their works, love and faith, but also for tolerating sexual immorality in the church.

So many have fallen for an unbiblical definition of true love that is devoid of correction or standards. It feels more like warm, fuzzy, emotional highs and affirmation of people regardless of their lifestyle, which is not biblical love. Love can feel quite repulsive and alienating at times. God is love. He can't avoid it! This God of love, in the above passage, refused to play games with the issue of sexual immorality in the church. His response? Repent or be thrown into great tribulation!

Consider this question: "If you were a pastor and someone who identified as a 'gay Christian' started attending your church, or someone didn't feel it was sinful to have sex with their boyfriend or girlfriend outside of marriage, what would you do?"

People most always respond by saying, "Love them."

OK, but what does that look like? Again, most would say that we should encourage, share the truth with them and pray that they would stay connected in church and eventually see the error of their ways.

This counsel is in contradiction with the Word of God. I asked this question on Facebook just a moment ago, and I'm so proud of my son Skylar who, on a lunch break at work at Silver Dollar City here in Branson, Missouri, responded by typing in: 1 Corinthians 5. He's right:

"It is actually reported that there is sexual immorality among you, and such immorality as is not even named among the Gentiles, that a man has his father's wife. But you are arrogant. Instead you should have mourned, so that he who has done this deed might be removed from among you. For indeed, though absent in body but present in spirit, I have already, as if I were present, judged him who has done this deed, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ. When you are assembled, along with my spirit, in the power of our Lord Jesus Christ, deliver him to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, so that the spirit may be saved on the day of the Lord Jesus" (1 Cor. 5:1-5).

This passage also uses a form of the word "tolerate." Sexual immorality is not to be tolerated. Jezebel and the sexual perversion she promotes is not to be tolerated. The demand in today's culture is for tolerance in the midst of sexual perversion. This has crept into the culture of the church and it is time to act.

God is not tolerant. His is longsuffering, but certainly not tolerant of perversion—especially within the church. This is His bride!

What is the loving reaction that leaders must have when unrepentant sexual immorality is discovered in the church? That person is to be removed. He is to be delivered to Satan for the destruction of their flesh—so that his spirit may be saved!

This is love!

Of course, there are significant differences between someone who is struggling with, for example, pornography and someone who indulges in it freely without repentance or any plan to change.

There is also a difference between a professing Christian who refuses to repent of sexual sin and a heathen who refuses to repent. The former is to be removed from the church while the latter should be welcomed with open arms in hopes that they are radically, gloriously saved! And, yes, at that time they will be held to an entirely different standard.

The passage in 1 Corinthians 5 continues:

"Your boasting is not good. Do you not know that a little yeast leavens the whole batch? Therefore purge out the old yeast, that you may be a new batch, since you are unleavened. For even Christ, our Passover, has been sacrificed for us. Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old yeast, nor with the yeast of malice and wickedness, but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth. I wrote to you in my letter not to keep company with sexually immoral people. Yet I did not mean the sexually immoral people of this world, or the covetous and extortioners, or the idolaters, since you would then need to go out of the world. But I have written to you not to keep company with any man who is called a brother, who is sexually immoral, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or an extortioner. Do not even eat with such a person. For what have I to do with judging those also who are outside? Do you not judge those who are inside? But God judges those who are outside. Therefore 'put away from among yourselves that wicked person'" (1 Cor. 5:6-13).

If one who calls themselves a brother or sister in Christ are sexually immoral, greedy, idolatrous, a reviler, drunkard or swindler—we can't even sit down at Starbucks with them! We can't invite them over for a barbecue on the Forth of July!

This is love!

If we don't take swift action the entire church will become infected. A little leaven leavens the whole lump.

"And do not let sexual immorality, or any impurity, or greed be named among you, as these are not proper among saints" (Eph. 5:3).

Ax2root #fundie charismanews.com

There is something MORE DEEPLY DEMONIC about this that Christians MUST BE COME AWARE OF.

satan LOST the right to his former name " lucifer" when he was thrown out of heaven through spiritual treason. AND no one should be referring anymore to " lucifer" when GOD CHANGED his name to satan, devil, murderer, accuser, slanderer , etc.

ALSO, AND THIS IS VITAL......Lucifer /satan NEVER was the " MORNINGSTAR" THAT NAME IS RESERVED TO JESUS THE CHRIST.....

Lucifer was called the " SON of the morning" NOT MORNINGSTAR.

This was made apparent on another thread on charisma when Catholics were posting that Lucifer was the Morningstar and were silent when the Word of God was posted OPPOSING THEIR words....I am wondering if the Catholic bible has , along with OTHER verses, MISTRANSLATED these passages?

Also , there was a Video of a catholic Pope ALSO USING THE TERMS WRONG.

also, remember, the Vatican has a huge observatory in the USA called the Lucifer project telescope.

Fox News has NEW competition, There is a new News Network called ONE America News that has much more factual news and commentators that are not afraid to speak truth to power. The commentators , such as The Ledger Report also have EXCELLENT guests.

Stan and Elizabeth Madrak #fundie demonbuster.com

Do you play golf? In the Jackson Clarion-Ledger on August 19, they had an article entitled "ZEN: The religion of golf - Increasingly, approaches to the game borrow from Zen Buddhism". They also had a large picture of a golfer teeing off to a green and sand trap combination shaped like the yin-yang. You may want to do some extra warfare when on the greens. That same week it was on the national news.

Unknown women #conspiracy express.co.uk

A group of women who say Sir Edward Heath abused them as children have also accused their parents of being involved in up to 16 murders.
The farce came as police probe incredible claims that the former prime minister was linked to a paedophile ring that killed as many as 16 children – which would make them the worst child murderers in British history.

The seemingly far-fetched allegations have been made by a family who allege that the politician was part of a satanic sex cult run by their own parents. They say that the cult regularly slaughtered children as ritual sacrifices in churches and forests around southern England and also participated in similar ceremonies in Africa.

They claim their mother and father – who is said to have known the former Conservative leader – were responsible for slaughtering children ranging from babies to teenagers – yet they evaded justice.
The paedophile ring – which they say Sir Edward was part of – stabbed, tortured and maimed youngsters in churches and burnt babies in satanic orgies before men, women and children gorged themselves on blood and body parts, police have been told.

If the bizarre allegations were to be proved, the parents who allegedly led the killings would be responsible for murdering more children than Fred and Rose West. They would also be on a par with Thomas Hamilton, who shot dead 16 children in the 1996 Dunblane school massacre.

The women’s lurid claims were dismissed by police in 1989 when they came forward. Sir Edward’s name was never mentioned to police at the time. It was only last year that he was named for the first time after one of the claimants said she had ‘remembered’ a man called ‘Ed’ was a prime mover in a network of paedophile abusers.

But there is no suggestion that Sir Edward killed any children himself in the women’s accounts. Wiltshire Police have spent more than a year investigating the allegations as part of an inquiry that has cost taxpayers over £883,431 and irretrievably tarnished the reputation of the unmarried politician, who died in 2005, aged 89.

Last night Sir Edward’s godson, Lincoln Seligman, said: ‘I understand that these claims from the 1980s were at the time dismissed as complete fantasy by police. It is disappointing that these wild allegations have been reheated and randomly attached to Edward Heath’s name.’

A Wiltshire Police spokesman said: ‘We are not prepared to discuss this as this is an on-going investigation.’

Matthew Gregory McLaughlin #fundie matthewgregorymclaughlin.wordpress.com

The ignorant notion that the Lord Jesus Christ was somehow silent or ambivalent about Sodomites is a fiction manufactured by liars with a bad conscience.

Christ’s animosity toward Sodomites was so ‘extreme’ that he professed an almost impatient desire to burn them all up.

The warning that Jesus Christ will return to burn up his enemies with unquenchable fire is repeatedly connected to the example of Sodom, the import of which is absolutely unmistakable: Sodomites will infect the world in the end of days, and Christ will return in his wrath for the very purpose of burning them in the torments of eternal fire.

Consider the following examples of ‘invidious discrimination’ and ‘hate speech’ of our Creator Jesus Christ toward sex-perverts:

#1 – Jesus said marriage is only between a man and woman:

“And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, 5 And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh? 6 Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.” (Matthew 19:4-6)(see also, Mark 10:6-9)

#2 – Jesus affirmed observance of the Old Testament Law (viz., Lev. 20:13):

“¶ Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. 18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. 19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.” (Matthew 5:17-19)

#3 – Jesus explained that the purpose of his return in the future will be to burn up the world’s sodomites with flaming fire:

“¶ I am come to send fire on the earth; and what will I, if it be already kindled? 50 But I have a baptism to be baptized with; and how am I straitened till it be accomplished! 51 Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division:.” (Luke 12:49-51)

“Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded; 29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all. 30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.” (Luke 17:28-30)

#4 – Jesus warned the friends of Sodomites of getting the same treatment:

“Remember Lot’s wife.” (Luke 17:32)

#5 – Jesus repeatedly said he would return to burn up the wicked:

“19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.” (Matthew 7:19)

“As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world. 41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; 42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.” (Matthew 13:40-42)

“Wherefore if thy hand or thy foot offend thee, cut them off, and cast them from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life halt or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet to be cast into everlasting fire. 9 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire.” (Matthew 18:8-9)

# 6 -Jesus’ disciples Peter and Jude – who lived with Christ and knew all his teachings – explained that the Sodomites weren’t doomed for being ‘unfriendly’ – they were damned for being sex perverts:

“Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. 8 Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.” (Jude 1:7-8)

“And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly; 7 And delivered just Lot, vexed with the filthy conversation of the wicked: 8 (For that righteous man dwelling among them, in seeing and hearing, vexed his righteous soul from day to day with their unlawful deeds;) 9 The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished:” (2 Peter 2:6-9)

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Those passages describe Sodomites as those who engage in ‘filthy’ ‘unlawful’ ‘fornication’ – and they make it crystal clear that the same such perverts will be burned to ashes in the most horrifying manner imaginable by the Lord Jesus Christ.

Still think Jesus was non-committal on the issue of destroying Sodomites? If so, please donate your frontal lobe to science so they can study the densest matter in the universe.

Better-informed Sodomites don’t display their stupidity as recklessly as to make the bizarre claim of taking a sworn enemy like the Lord Jesus Christ as their benefactor. That’s a phenomenon reserved for the worst of the worst – the most shameless and blind of the entire bunch.

Degenerates should claim for themselves a moral relativist like Buddha, or some a worldly philosopher that tried to deny the judgment to come. Call upon whatever gods you want – but don’t call upon Jesus Christ, unless you repent.

Hating evil is Jesus Christ’s eternal joy:

“Thou lovest righteousness, and hatest wickedness: therefore God, thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.” (Psalms 45:7)

“For thou art not a God that hath pleasure in wickedness: neither shall evil dwell with thee. 5 The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity.” (Psalms 5:4-5)

“For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.” (Revelation 22:15)

Jeff Boss #conspiracy jeffbossforpresident.org

JEFF BOSS WITNESSED THE NSA ARRANGE THE 911 ATTACKS!


JEFF WILL BE ON THE BALLOT FOR THE DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY FOR PRESIDENT 2016 JEFF IS AN NSA WHISTLE BLOWER. www.BOSSFORSENATE.COM OR JEFFBOSSFORPRESIDENT.ORG


JEFF BOSS WITNESSED THE TOP HIGHEST CLEARANCE IN THE NSA GIVING PHONE CARDS TO THE 911 HIJACKERS IN MARCH OF 2001, AND TALKING ABOUT FLYING 12 PLANES INTO BUILDINGS ON THE SAME DAY. JEFF HAS OVER 500 PEOPLE ON DVD ADMITTING THE NSA GAVE THEM $20,000 TO KEEP QUIET AFTER THEY RECEIVED JEFF’S CAMPAIGN LITERATURE ABOUT THE NSA ARRANGING THE 911 ATTACKS. JEFF HAS OVER 40 AFFIDAVITS FROM PEOPLE SAYING THEY WERE GIVEN $20,000 FROM THE NSA TO KEEP QUIET AND WERE THREATENED WITH HARM IF THEY TOLD ANYONE, THAT THE NSA DID THE 911 ATTACKS. JEFF HAS A LIST OF OVER 50,000 PEOPLE WHO GOT THE $20,000 FROM THE NSA.


JEFF WILL BE ON THE BALLOT FOR THE ASSEMBLY SEAT FROM NORTHERN NJ 2015.

IN THE PAST JEFF WAS ON THE BALLOT FOR PRESIDENT(2008,2012), U.S. SENATE 2008, (11,000 votes), 2014(4400 votes) CONGRESS, GOVERNOR OF NJ(2009 & 2013)(16,074 votes in 2009), State Senate.NO MAIN STREAM MEDIA IN THE USA WILL RUN JEFF’S STORY. THE MEDIA IS CONTROLLED BY THE NSA.


I Witnessed a family member, high up in the NSA (National Security Agency) providing phone cards to the 911 hijackers. She was helping Ramsi Yousef (responsible for the 93 bombing at the World Trade Center) call his uncle Khalid Sheikh Mohammed(considered the mastermind of the 911 attack) and the other hijackers from the NSA secret prison in Alexandria, VA., and she was talking about flying 12 planes into buildings on the same day. I never heard the dates or the names of the buildings and I never thought anything would ever happen. But on September 10, 2001 I was told to go the World Trade Center on September 11, 2001. My first day in a new office, and I was yelled at by 4 supervisors not to be late. I was late. Thank G-d. The NSA wanted the oil in Iraq, which has the second largest oil reserve in the world. Certain powerful people in the NSA told me that the electronic voting machines can be hacked into and the vote changed within seconds. If we do not have our vote, then we are not a democracy. By creating a culture of Fear, the NSA has helped to pass the Patriot Act, which trashes our Constitution. Now the NSA doesn’t need a warrant to listen to every ones phone calls & emails or go into their homes. The NSA is now listening to every ones phones calls and e mails using an enormous computer. The NSA spies on Wall Street and makes unlimited money. Our Civil liberties, Constitution, and Democracy are rapidly disappearing. The NSA used the 911 attacks to overthrow America. I will not let them hijack my country.

The NSA controls the media and prevents Jeff Boss’s message from being heard. Don’t you think a person who was on the ballot for President of the United States twice & U.S. Senate (twice) in New Jersey, and Governor of New Jersey (twice), State Senate, and now has filed to be on the Primary for President in 2016, and talked about the NSA arranging the 911 attack would be known? The Star Ledger, NY Times and Jersey Journal refused to run my paid for political ads. I have videos of over 500 people on DVD admitting on tape that the NSA gave them $20,000 to keep quiet after they received my campaign literature and threatened to kill them if they told anyone that the NSA did the 911 attacks. I have over 40 affidavits from people saying the same thing. I have over 20 U.S. servicemen in uniform saying the same thing on DVD. I even have Al Gore admitting that the NSA did the 911 attacks on DVD. Every time I post the videos, they are edited out or altered, even on You Tube. Every time I am on TV or Radio and talk about the 911 attack or show videos they are edited out.

THINGS I WILL DO FOR YOU AS YOUR PRESIDENT AND ASSEMBLYMAN.

$15.00 minimum wage. Legalize Marijuana and Tax the sale. Free Internet College for all under and graduate degrees. It is time that anyone who wants to be a lawyer, nurse, doctor, or any degree is free on the internet for all, including books. No killing at the animal shelters. 100,000+ of new modular apartments where the rent is no more than $200 for a 1 bedroom in NJ. No more car insurance a $400 flat rate insured by the State. I would stop all flights from West Africa and quarantine anyone who arrives from West Africa for 21 days. No federal tax for federal workers. No state tax for city & state workers. World’s largest Casino in the Meadowlands owned by the Atlantic City casinos, legalize sports betting at your lottery machines and use the revenue to open 100 charter schools with union teachers in NJ. We will make the schools in NJ the best in the world. Dogs allowed in restaurants and clubs like they are in France. Equal rights for everyone. Funding for Autism. No cell phone towers within 1000 feet of any homes or office. I want anyone who wants to own a gun to be able to, as long as it is legally done. I have a lot of other great ideas to make this state and the country best it can be.

Since the NSA is trying to kill me every day for whistle blowing on the NSA. I have been involved with the NSA for more than 25 years. My home at 46 Webster Street 2nd floor, Ridgefield Park, NJ is bugged and poisoned, and so is my car NJ license plate # K23 DSB a blue Honda Fit. I have a letter from a security company saying RF waves are off the charts coming out of my car. My Honda has 4 big cables running off the battery, that isn’t in any other Honda. I have numerous Honda employees on camera saying they have never seen these cables in any other Honda. My plumbing in my house has had plumbing redone by the NSA to poison the water in the house. I have a NSA agent named Martin Rodriguez living downstairs who preset up the house for the NSA to kill me. My neighbors at 39,40,41,44,48,49,51 Webster are all NSA Agents. Here is some of how the NSA operates illegally in the America. The NSA kills hundreds of thousands of people a year by poisoning their food. The NSA has a chef and coffee maker in almost every coffee shop and restaurant. The NSA is ten times worse than the Nazis and kills hundreds of thousands of people a year who are on their list. That includes protesters, people who question the government, and many others. Don’t eat out with your cell phone with you, and microwave all your id’s and credit cards for 4 seconds only, to throw off the GPS tracking that is in the credit cards and driver’s license. You will see the silver eagle on the back of the credit with lines through the wings. This means that the GPS chip is broken. It won’t hurt your credit card or id’s. The NSA has destroyed our constitution with the Patriot act. 70% of all doormen, security guards, including at every Federal building, are working for the NSA. This way the NSA can break into anyone’s home or office. The NSA controls the lie detecting machines in almost all Federal agencies. 30% of all U.S Marshalls and lots of FBI Police have been recruited by the NSA.

The NSA is also trying to kill me for whistle blowing on President George W. Bush. In the past the NSA altered the Bush gore election by killing hundreds to cover up for George W. Bush’s past. The NSA killed lots of Bush’s rehab patients at the Betty Ford center that were there with George in October- November 1989. The NSA didn’t want it coming out that W. was in rehab for drinking and cocaine when he was running for President. In the White House, W. started drinking again and using cocaine again. W’s personal doctor called in Dr. Jeffrey Rosecan who was famous for treating addicts. Dr. Rosecan told Bush’s doctor to get W. out of office. A few months later Dr. Rosecan was dead of lung cancer. The NSA poisoned Rosecan’s food when he ate out. The same way the NSA poisoned the clean up crews that worked the pile at ground zero. The Ground Zero clean up crews found unexploded explosives in the pile. The NSA didn’t want any witnesses.

My telephone # is 201-887-3910 and my e mail is jeffboss@yandex.com. The NSA has been intercepting my phone calls and email, people are telling me that they spoke to me when I never spoke to them. I even recorded calls and played the calls back to the people I called, and they said they never spoke to me, but it is their voice on the recorder. It turns out the NSA has the technology to do this. Therefore, it is best to meet me in NYC on the first Monday of the Month in front of the NY Times 8th Ave entrance at 11am-11.30am. My websites are being altered or blocked by the NSA. I witnessed the NSA arrange the 911 attacks. I am a whistle blower on the NSA. I now have over 500 people on DVD saying the NSA gave them $20,000 to keep quiet and threatened to kill them if they told anyone about the NSA arranging the 911 attacks. I have over 40 affidavits from people saying they got the $20,000 from the NSA and were threatened with harm if they told anyone that the NSA did the 911 attacks or voted for me. I have over 20 U.S. servicemen in uniform saying the same thing on DVD. I have been on the ballot in the past for President(2008,2012 in some states), U.S. Senate (twice), Governor of NJ(16,000 votes 2009) & 2013, Congress, State Senate. Not one newspaper or TV station will run my paid for political ads or write any story about me. Did the NSA kill JFK,RFK,MLK? Because the NSA is trying to kill Jeff Boss running for President of the United States for the 3RD time in 2016 on the Democratic Primary. Whenever, I go to the FBI the agents working for the NSA, block my complaints from being seen or write bad reports about me as directed by the NSA. I have filed over 20+ complaints with the FBI & the U.S. Attorney's office. The FBI doesn't seem to care that over 500,000 Americans have been threatened with death if they tell anyone that the NSA did the 911 attacks.


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THIS PAPER IS WORTH $20,000 TO THE NSA TO GET BACK. If the NSA offers you a job remember, if you really work for the NSA you spend months training, get finger printed, background checked, a healthcare plan, a Government ID, a W2 , a Pension plan, If the NSA offers you a job you better get all those things or they are just giving you hush money till they kill you. IF YOU TAKE THE NSA MONEY, YOU MUST TELL 30+ PEOPLE THAT THE NSA GAVE YOU MONEY TO COVER UP FOR THE NSA DOING THE 911 ATTACKS, OR THE NSA WILL KILL YOU. WHEN YOU TELL 30+ PEOPLE, INCLUDING PEOPLE IN THE GOVERNMENT, THE NSA WILL LEAVE YOU ALONE. THE MORE PEOPLE YOU TELL THE SAFER YOU ARE! IF YOU DON’T GET THE MONEY THAT MEANS THAT YOU EITHER WORK FOR THE GOVERNMENT OR MOST LIKELY ARE ON A NSA LIST AS A PROTESTER, OR SOME ONE WHO QUESTIONS OUR GOVERNMENT. IF THE NSA DOESN’T APPROACH YOU PLEASE TELL EVERYONE YOU KNOW MY STORY. ATTENTION NSA AGENTS: Secret code word is leave it on the ground. Over 50,000+ NSA agents have been killed, to cover up for the NSA doing the 911 attacks. It is time not to follow these traitors, that are running the NSA. Russian moles are running the Agency. Speak out and put my story in the media and save America. Possible rfd chip in the paper, use an electron microscope.

David Harsanyi #fundie thefederalist.com

This week, the Democratic Party was unable to pass a watered-down, platitudinous resolution condemning anti-Semitism, due to “fierce backlash” from presidential candidates, the Congressional Black Caucus (CBC), and the now-powerful progressive base. Rather than censuring Rep. Ilhan Omar, the intellectually frivolous, Hamas-supporting freshman representative from Minnesota, she was rewarded and inoculated from party criticism.
More consequently, the Democrats deemed Protocols of Zion-style attacks a legitimate form of debate. That’s because Omar, despite what you hear, has repeatedly attacked Jews, not only Israel supporters, and certainly not only specific Israeli policies.

Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, who would finally bring an “All Lives Matter” resolution to the floor, told reporters she didn’t believe the congresswoman’s comments were “intentionally anti-Semitic.” No educated human believes Omar inadvertently accused “Benjamin”-grubbing Rootless Cosmopolitans of hypnotizing the world for their evil. These are long-standing, conspiratorial attacks on the Jewish people, used by anti-Semites on right and left, and popular throughout the Islamic world.
Even the Democratic Party activist groups that typically cover for the Israel-haters, like the Anti- Defamation League, have condemned Omar. Yet it was the lie that coursed through the Democratic Party’s defense of Omar.
Presidential hopeful Elizabeth Warren claimed that “branding criticism of Israel as automatically anti-Semitic has had a chilling effect on our public discourse and makes it harder to achieve a peaceful solution between Israelis and Palestinians.” Either Warren believes that accusing Jews and their supporters of dual loyalty and sedition is a legitimate criticism of Israel, or she is deliberately mischaracterizing Omar’s comments to gain favor with the growing faction of anti-Semites in her party.
“We must not,” the socialist Bernie Sanders argued, “equate anti-Semitism and legitimate criticism of the right-wing, Netanyahu government in Israel” because such a thing would be “stifling” debate. Does anyone believe that if left-of-center Kahol Lavan were running Israel, Omar would be less inclined to smear the bipartisan squishes at AIPAC?

Omar has mentioned Benjamin Netanyahu (who, incidentally, is in every way more of a genuine liberal than either Sanders or Omar) once in her Twitter feed, and then only to use this very talking point to defend her comments. As a political matter, no major party in Israel is going allow an independent Palestinian state run by theocrats and terrorists to exist, so Omar and her allies will never be appeased.
Of course, no one argues that Omar’s speech should be curtailed or stifled. The same can’t be said of her defenders, however, who not only falsely claim criticism of her tropes is “chilling speech,” but also decided to transform this 38-year-old firebrand into a helpless, childlike victim.
“We all have a responsibility to speak out against anti-Semitism, Islamophobia, homophobia, transphobia, racism, and all forms of hatred and bigotry, especially as we see a spike in hate crimes in America,” said Sen. Kamala Harris, who, like many Democrats, tried to dilute criticism of anti-Semitism in a torrent of phobias. “But like some of my colleagues in the Congressional Black Caucus, I am concerned that the spotlight being put on Congresswoman Omar may put her at risk.”
We shouldn’t exaggerate the prevalence of hate crimes in America, which is low, but it’s certainly worth pointing out that Jews are the target of 60 percent of those crimes—a far larger percentage than anyone else. In New York City, there have been at least 36 hate crimes against Jews so far this year so far. Shouldn’t Harris be more concerned about Omar’s rhetoric?

As Gad Saad noted yesterday, Omar’s brand of Israel criticism “is almost ALWAYS a cover of existential and definitional Jew-hatred.” This anti-Israel sentiment—opposition to the idea of a national Jewish state—is the most consequential form of anti-Semitism that exists in the world today. It has done more to undermine Jewish safety than all the dog whistles and white nationalist marches combined. Yet, many Democrats have now seemingly joined Corbynites and leftists around the world perpetuating this radicalism.
The normalization of Omarism is a long time coming. Omar’s defenders have been praising and participating in the Women’s March, led by Louis Farrakhan acolytes who believe Jewish people bear a special collective responsibility “as exploiters of black and brown people,” since Trump was elected. But it goes even further back.
When leaving the CBC meeting, “members formed a circle around Omar and Marcia Fudge literally stuck her arm out to prevent reporters from asking her questions. Then a few members hugged Omar, including Al Lawson.” It is unsurprising that Omar, who has great trouble answering simple questions, has the CBC running interference for her hatred. At least seven members of the CBC—a group seemingly immune from criticism—have coordinated and worked with Farrakhan, the anti-Semite preacher who believes “satanic” Jews are “termites” who “deserve to die.” Liberals keep telling me Farrakhan is just a conservative boogeyman, and yet his contingent is growing as Omar and allies like Rashida Tlaib and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez join the ranks.
Democrats’ allies in media quickly came to Omar’s rescue, as well. The Washington Post ran three articles after Omar’s initial comments this week. All three defended her. “Want to combat hate? Stop the hazing of Ilhan Omar and start listening” wrote Wajahat Ali and Rabia Chaudry. Not only shouldn’t Jews censure Omar, the authors argued, they should shut up and listen to her wisdom. In the progressive worldview, Jews, who are successful and predominately white, should put up with a little bigotry for the common good.

As Rep James Clyburn (D-SC), who once also shared a stage with Farrakhan, noted, Omar should be given a free pass because she fled Somalia. “There are people who tell me, ‘Well, my parents are Holocaust survivors.’ ‘My parents did this.’ It’s more personal with her,” he explained. It’s personal to hate Jews when you fled Somalia? The number of people defending Omar on the risible grounds that Muslims should be immune from criticism isn’t surprising when you realize that identity politics demands strict adherence to the hierarchy of victimhood.
When New York Times reporters Sheryl Gay Stolberg (whose article in the aftermath of Omar’s dual loyalty remarks asked if Jewish people had too much power in Washington) and Glenn Thrush (who may or may not be taking diction from the Democratic National Committee) authored a piece about the resolution fight, they spent a large chunk of their space letting everyone know that President Donald Trump—whose daughter converted to Judaism and who moved the American embassy to Jerusalem and who stopped coddling the world’s most dangerous anti-Jewish terror-state—had also used anti-Semitic tropes.
While it’s not worth again debunking the fact that Trump never said neo-Nazis were “very fine people” or pointing out that most of the Jews at the Republican Jewish Coalition laughed at his jokes, it is worth mentioning that Democrats have embraced the worst kind of “whataboutism.”
NBC’s News’ Chuck Todd, in his “I’m obsessed with” segment, offered a jaw-droppingly misleading lecture accusing both parties of having an anti-Semitism problem by comparing elected officials like Omar and Tlaib — who have been embraced by their party, take part in policy making, and now widely defended on the mainstream left — to a fringe Nazi murderer who shot up a Pittsburgh synagogue, whom not a single Republican supports and has nothing to do with the GOP. The very fact that Todd was forced to shoehorn these comparisons is revealing.
In truth, Pelosi’s first watered-down resolution would have passed with most Republicans voting for it, and a number of Democrats defecting. This would have been embarrassing. So she promised to dilute it, and even that wasn’t enough for Democrats. Now, leadership is poised to pass some pointless resolution condemning all hatred.
Omar, an intellectual lightweight, is certainly a problem for America. But the fact that Democrats apparently believe what she says is fine is an absolute disaster.

Church Militant #fundie churchmilitant.com

Nazism & Gay Rights: Key Parallels

In 1939, a young German exile wrote a book about how the Nazis took over his country. The manuscript was placed in a drawer and forgotten until his death 60 years later, when it was found by his son and became a best-seller under the title Defying Hitler.

It was an amazing discovery because the author, Sebastian Haffner, had by then grown into one of Germany's most popular journalists. The narrative is also a gem of social commentary, showing how historical circumstance, political inertia and moral cowardice combined to produce one of humanity's greatest disasters. This article will follow his work, using Haffner's insights as a roadmap for the rise of homofascism in the United States. There are at least seven key parallels between the two eras.

1) The first similarity between our current times and Germany in the 1930s is an agenda-driven use of the media. Propaganda minister Joseph Goebbels had a dark genius for supporting films, radio programs, books and newspapers favorable to the Nazi cause. He also was a master at making Hitler's support look larger than life, scheduling him to speak in small venues that would result in dense crowds. The pro-gay forces have done the same thing in the United States by quietly promoting sodomy in countless movies and television shows for the last 20–30 years (Philadelphia, Will & Grace, Brokeback Mountain, to name a few). Like the Nazis, modern gays have overrepresented the size and popular support of their subculture.

2) Hitler and the homofascists also benefited from a collapse of opposition to their evil. Haffner describes this situation in March 1933, when the Third Reich came into being:

There was a League of Communist Front-Line Veterans and a centrist association called Reischbanner with a black, red and gold flag, the colors of the Weimar Republic. It was organized on military lines by a coalition of parties including the Social Democrats, had arms and millions of members, and was explicitly intended to hold the SA (Nazis) in check. During the whole period this association remained completely invisible, not a glimmer. It disappeared without a trace, as though it had never existed … .

The officers of the Reischbanner showed not the slightest opposition when their facilities were taken over by the SA. The Stahlhelm, the army of German nationalists, permitted itself to be absorbed and then dissolved, bit by bit. They grumbled but offered no resistance. There was not one single example of energetic defense, of courage or principle. There was only panic, flight and desertion. In March 1933 millions were ready to fight the Nazis. Overnight they found themselves without leaders... .

This terrible moral bankruptcy of the opposition leadership is a fundamental characteristic of the March "revolution" of 1933. It made the Nazi victory exceedingly easy. (pp. 132–33)

Replace these Germans with Americans like Indiana governor Mike Pence, Washington archbishop Cardinal Wuerl, New York archbishop cardinal Egan, or Knights of Columbus supreme knight Carl Anderson. Our leaders have also been missing in action on issue after issue — divorce, contraception, abortion, civil unions, same-sex marriage — making the victory of evil in this country exceedingly easy as well. Their cowardice was even worse because Nazis had guns and killed people, while our leaders retreated without even a whiff of physical danger.

3) Another similarity between the German fascists and homofascists is restriction on speech to hide the nature of their evil. This passage is relevant to our times:

While they [Nazis] were systematically torturing and murdering their defenseless victims, they daily declared in fine, noble words that not a single hair on anyone's head would be harmed. … Indeed, only a few weeks after the atrocities began, a law was passed that forbade anyone, under pain of several penalties, to claim, even in the privacy of his own home, that atrocities were taking place. (p. 127)

Of course, homofascists seldom use violence in our times. But they're quick to destroy a person's career or reputation. And they're perfectly willing to use laws to restrict criticism as hate speech. They also want to ban conversion therapy, keeping individuals from receiving treatment for same-sex attraction. Just like the Nazis, today's homosexualists want to shut down opposition speech.

4) The forces of sodomy resemble their anti-semitic cousins in the ability of a small, well-organized minority to control a malleable but disorganized majority. The Nazi party, after all, never won more than 40 percent of the national vote in Germany. In this way it resembles gay marriage, which has become the law of our land despite losing referendum after referendum. Knowing they cannot win in honest debates, they advance their agenda using any means necessary.

5) There's also a peculiar combination of rule-breaking with normalcy. In Germany, for instance, Nazi street violence was explained away as "revolutionary excess" but occurred with the blessing of the state. As Haffner says:

[The Nazis] acted from a position of complete security, under orders and with strict discipline. The external picture was one of revolutionary terror: a wild unkempt mob breaking into homes at night and dragging defenseless victims to the torture chambers. The internal process was repressive terror: cold, calculated, offical orders, directed by the state and carried out under the full protection of the police and the armed forces. ... [W]hat happened was a nightmarish reversal of normal circumstances: robbers and murderers acting as the police force, enjoying the full panoply of state power, their victims treated as criminals, proscribed and condemned to death in advance. (pp. 125–26)

Killing defenseless people was technically a crime in Germany, just as sodomy once was illegal in most of the United States. But violators of the law went unpunished over time, and soon the criminals ran the country.

Meanwhile, innocent people are attacked as if they were felons. In Germany, they were Jews and opposition leaders like the Social Democrats. Today, they're bakers, florists and owners of bed-and-breakfasts.

And, just as street thugs became the new law and order in Nazi Germany, we have pedophiles in the United States writing sex ed curricula and gay judges like Elena Kagan and Vaughn Walker ruling on marriage cases.

6) It's also interesting that homosexuals continue their pride marches after gaining acceptance. This resembles the Nazis, who marched with uniforms, flags and torches well after 1933. In both cases, the demonstrations serve to intimidate opposition and to rally their own numbers. They're totally different from protests to achieve a specific outcome, like ending segregation, war or abortion.

Sadhana Singh #fundie pinknews.co.uk

India politician under fire for calling rival ‘worse than a transgender person’

A politician in India is getting criticism after referring to her opponent as “worse than a transgender person.”

Sadhana Singh, who represents Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) in the regional Uttar Pradesh Legislative Assembly, made the comments at a rally on December 19.
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The elected politician had taken aim at Kumari Mayawati, the head of the rival Bahujan Samaj Party (BSP), for entering an anti-BJP pact in the region with the Samajwadi Party (SP).

According to the Mumbai Mirror, Sadhana said: “Former Uttar Pradesh chief minister Mayawati sold her dignity for power and joined hands with those who disrespected her… She is a blot on womankind.

“Cannot say if she can be counted among men or women, she is worse than a transgender person.”

The comments alluded to a 1995 violent incident in which BSP chief Mayawati was briefly held hostage by SP supporters.
Sadhana Singh criticised by India political leaders

The remarks led to a wave of criticism, with the National Commission for Women demanding an explanation from the politician.

BSP leader Satish Chandra Mishra said that it shows “the level BJP has sunk to,” adding: “They do not have strength to win even a single seat in Uttar Pradesh.”

SP leader Akhilesh Yadav said: “These kind of derogatory comments are grossly unacceptable.

“It is a sign of BJP’s moral bankruptcy and desperation. This is also an insult to the women of the country.”

Sadhana Singh told News18 that she does not regret the comments, again accusing Mayawati of letting down “all women” by working with the SP.

However, she added in a statement: “My intention was not to insult anyone… I apologise if my words have caused grief to anyone.”

Rabbi Yitzhak Meir Bar Lev #fundie failedmessiah.typepad.com

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Authorities are seeking to extradite Malka Leifer from Israel. But she has made it clear to family and friends that she will do everything she can to avoid ever facing her accusers. And she has the support of leaders of an ultra-orthodox community harbouring her in Israel and who say she has done nothing wrong.

The mother of eight has been accused of molesting a string of girls, including three sisters, while principal at Adass Israel School in Elsternwick.

Two of them, suing Ms Leifer and the school, told the Supreme Court in May she explained the abuse as preparation for marriage.

One said she had been too fearful to complain because of Ms Leifer’s power in the ultraorthodox community.

It is understood Ms Leifer could face dozens of charges of indecent assault and rape if she ever returns to Melbourne. She fled in March 2008, with the help of school officials, hours after the school committee learned of the accusations.

Ms Leifer was arrested in September, pending extradition hearings. She was under house arrest: reportedly, at first in Migdal HaEmek (about an hour north of Emmanuel, where she had lived), and then in Bnei Brak, an ultra-orthodox city near Tel Aviv.

Emmanuel [chief] rabbi Yitzhak Meir Bar Lev said the senior rabbi had instructed locals to accept the family.

Molesting a child was no less than murder and should be reported, but his “sources” told him the charges fell short of serious misconduct, he said.

“If the allegations are true, it was only because she was trying to bring these girls in, trying to prevent them from destroying their lives (by leaving ultra-orthodoxy),” he said.

“The girls’ behaviour had passed the point where they could have been ‘saved’ with mere words,” he said.

“Perhaps that wasn’t the right method to choose; there is a very thin line between ‘kosher’ and ‘non-kosher’ educational methods.

"But I can tell you her actions were only motivated by a positive educational precept.

“She was right to try to bring them in — they’d crossed a lot of borders in the other direction. She had only the best intentions,” the rabbi said.