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Stella Morabito #fundie thefederalist.com

Walt Heyer knows firsthand what it’s like to undergo sex change surgery and then regret it. After living as a woman for nearly a decade, he decided to accept his biological sex and de-transition back to male. By then, Walt had received intensive cognitive therapy that helped him recognize early childhood trauma he had experienced.
The trauma resulted in a mental condition known as dissociative identity disorder (DID). In the clarity of that realization, his gender dysphoria simply vanished. His life as a “woman” all amounted to an attempt to escape reality. Sadly, too few people consider the possibility that gender dysphoria can manifest as a byproduct or symptom of other mental conditions, and most certainly of DID. (More on that below.)

Walt suffered huge waves of regret as a result of following through with his urge to be a woman. He had eagerly taken the bait of politicized medical practitioners, who hurried him along in the transition. He not only regretted what he had done to his body, he also grieved over the estrangement from his wife and children caused by his drastic change in identity.

There was collateral damage to other personal relationships as well. He also regretted the lost decade of his life in which he lived in the persona of a woman.

Heyer’s New Book Shines Light on Trans Life Survivors
Heyer has written several books on transgender regret, but his sixth and newest book, “Trans Life Survivors,” is not his personal story. It’s a compilation of the stories of many others caught up in today’s “transmania.” They specifically sought out Walt to get some much-needed support. They’ve shared their lonely, surreal experiences falling down the trans rabbit hole, hoping to escape as he did.

Walt’s correspondents describe a wide range of frustrating and confusing experiences. Some are nudged into transgenderism by social pressures and emotional manipulation. Many are hastily sent into surgery without adequate counseling (or any counseling at all), or are misdiagnosed. Some of those regret their decision very shortly after having irreversible surgery.

Many concerns about childhood traumas are ignored by therapists who are politically motivated to push as many patients as possible into sex change. They also fear intense ostracism and vicious backlash from the trans community if they “come out” as a potential de-transitioner.

Walt wrote “Trans Life Survivors,” he says, because he wants others “to catch a glimpse of the raw emotions and experiences of people who are harmed by the grand – and dangerous – experiment of cross-sex hormones and surgical affirming procedures.”

Helping Others Escape the Trans Rabbit Hole
For many years, Heyer’s website was virtually the only place for a trans regretter to get some relief from the social and political pressures crashing down. Many of his readers express a joyful sense of liberation in knowing that they are not all alone.

Much of their isolation is caused by our society’s slavish obedience to political correctness, which dictates that there is “no such thing” as transgender regret. Even worse, the transgender lobby is making it very difficult for such people to get the counseling they desperately want and need.

They’ve set up roadblocks in the form of new laws that virtually ban standard cognitive therapy for people who diagnose themselves with gender dysphoria, particularly those who are undecided about their path or actually regret it after the fact. Any legitimate form of talk therapy—therapy that allows for real Q-and-A that doesn’t necessarily result in affirmation of gender dysphoria—has been smeared with the label “conversion therapy.”
Regretters are damned if they do and damned if they don’t. They are not unlike recruits in a dangerous cult who sense that something is amiss, but feel trapped in a Hotel California (or even a Jonestown).

So “Trans Life Survivors” is a godsend for people struggling with trans regret, no matter what stage of transition or de-transition they are in. The book highlights 30 stories gleaned from among the many hundreds Heyer has received from his readers. Many more transgender people have contacted Walt over the years. Walt has been trying valiantly to keep up with the increasing volume of contacts.

His readers are grateful to find a place they can get real and rare information about how changing their identity might affect them down the road—or, increasingly, how they can de-transition once they realize how unhappy the process has made them.

Just Imagine How Regretting a Sex Change Would Feel

Can you imagine what it must be like to tell a therapist of your experience being abused as a child, which you offer as a possible explanation for your dysphoria, only to have the psychiatrist totally ignore that aspect of your past and instead push you to sex-change procedures as the only way to overcome your angst?
Imagine that you then defer to and trust the professional’s expertise, and you accept the treatment. Then, can you imagine, after going through all of that—the hormones, the mutilating surgeries, etc.—you realize it just didn’t work? You end up asking yourself: What did I do? Why did I go ahead with this? Then the trans lobby tells you it’s all your fault, you should have known better, and you’re not really trans anyway, so shut up.

That’s Billy’s story. But his story has a good ending that inspires regretters who have lost hope. Billy de-transitioned, fell in love, and ended up marrying a woman with children. This echoes Walt’s own life experience after de-transitioning. He too fell in love and married an amazing woman. They live a very joyful, rich, and fulfilling spiritual life together as Christians.

Such happy endings and strong relationships might seem unlikely to those who think they’ve hit rock bottom. But those results are real, and they are a source of much hope to those who yearn to de-transition, but who feel “abandoned, ostracized, outcast, and alone,” like Kevin, who reported that his sex-change was the biggest mistake of his life. Only God knows how many regretters Walt has steered away from suicide and towards renewed life.

Hard-to-Find Resources
In “Trans Life Survivors,” you’ll also read about “Blair,” who holds a Guinness World Record for most gender-reassignment surgeries: 167 surgeries to make him feel more like a woman. Needless to say, it didn’t work out. But we can easily suspect in his case the existence of surgical predators who take advantage of vulnerable people. Many others, like Michael, recognize that it’s all “a sick money-making industry.”

Others who have communicated with Walt include parents whose children are being pressured into gender transition by public school officials, social media, and pop culture. “Trans Life Survivors” also includes chapters on the medical realities of sex change as well as the politicization of medicine and psychiatry that locks people into a transgender identity.

The book ends with a useful listing of further resources for those who seek to find a way out. Such resources are very hard to come by, so the book is truly a public service.

Suppressed Support For Those De-Transitioning
After the novelty of the transition wears off—and it very often does—the regretter is stuck in a never-never land of keeping up facades and pretenses. Many report that the constant charade is emotionally draining and casts a pall over life. But if they express a desire to change back, their friends in the trans community often become angry and reject and isolate them.

Walt cites numerous studies confirming that most cases of gender dysphoria co-exist with other mental conditions.
Being shunned by one’s own community is painful. Eric wrote: “I’m trying to come out as a regretter, and I’m finding the community backlash to be difficult and the lack of medical support to be troubling.”

Walt knows that feeling very well. The transgender lobby has come out hard against him when he has spoken publicly about his personal experiences. In addition to smearing him with various epithets such as “religious nut” or “transphobic,” the lobby has worked hard to de-platform him.

Media Matters went into panic mode and ran a smear article when Walt gave a persuasive interview to CNN’s Carol Costello after Olympian Bruce Jenner’s 2015 transition. (Walt’s instincts tell him that Jenner regrets his decision, but is hopelessly stuck in the cultish trap of the limelight. I believe he’s right about that.)
Eric reported an unsettling lack of medical support. Walt cites numerous studies confirming that most cases of gender dysphoria co-exist with other mental conditions, such as DID, bipolar disorder, depression, and obsessive-compulsive disorders. If those other conditions were first treated through cognitive therapy, there’s no telling how much that would alleviate gender dysphoria without any need for invasive surgeries and hormonal treatments.
But this seems to be a well-guarded secret by political and media activists with a stake in promoting identity politics in general, and gender ideology in particular. Why? Probably because it could solve their problems, and their problems are the bread-and-butter of identity politics.

Free Speech Is More Important than Ever
The pressure can be even worse when dealing with the government agencies that supposedly respect the right to choosing one’s sex. Walt spent about 30 years—making eight to ten attempts—before he finally got a judge in California to reinstate the word “male” on his birth certificate. Despite all that, the transgender lobby insists Walt was never really transgender in the first place! Yet, strangely, they accept his diagnosis of dissociative identity disorder.

Would they allow people with gender dysphoria to seek out therapies that actually explore its psychological source?

The key question is this: Would Walt’s accusers allow others the same therapy, allowing them clarity to sort out whether their gender dysphoria is a part of a co-existing condition? After all, when claiming that Walt was “never transgender” they often point out and accept his diagnosis of DID. The Media Matters story cited above did just that.

So would they allow people with gender dysphoria to seek out therapies that actually explore its psychological source? And then allow their condition to be treated so their gender dysphoria might actually vanish without facades and surgeries?

Obviously not, since this goes against the trans activists’ claim that there’s such a thing as a woman’s brain trapped in a man’s body, and vice versa. Real cognitive therapy threatens to collapse that house of cards.
The ban on so-called conversion therapy is really a ban on all talk therapy that doesn’t affirm self-diagnosed gender dysphoria. Any therapist who so much as questions a patient’s yearning to be the other sex risks losing his or her license, or worse.

If the patient has nagging questions, therapists cannot even entertain those questions without putting license and job at risk, since the interpretation of what constitutes “conversion therapy” is so loose. It’s all up to trans activists and their legislative machinery. Psychotherapists are increasingly aware that they are now legally required to play along with each and every self-diagnosed case of gender dysphoria presented to them, or face legal consequences.

De-Transitioners Are Simply on a Journey Home
When one speaks of “going home” in the poetic sense, it has nothing to do with abuses or dysfunction that one might have experienced, leading to gender dysphoria. Being “home” simply means having a sense of being in the right place, living out your God-given purpose in your God-given body. It means being comfortable in your own skin so you can enjoy the view outward instead of constant navel-gazing.

When you don’t have that joy, or if you’ve lost it along the way, a different sort of dysphoria sets in. It can go by the name homesickness.

At some point in our maturity, we realize that joy and adventure don’t have to be in some alien place. When you go looking for your heart’s desire, to paraphrase Dorothy in the “Wizard of Oz,” there is much to discover right in your own backyard.

In fact, there is probably even more excitement in discovering the true reality of who you are than in pursuing shiny objects, trying to pretend to be someone else, and then trying to force everybody around you to cater to that persona. How exhausting.

The Joy Outweighs the Sorrow
As scary as de-transitioning might seem, once the possibility of it is validated by someone like Heyer, who’s been there and done that, there is a great joy in it, no matter the physical disfigurement or the years wasted.
At some point, like Dorothy, you realize that there really is no place like home.

Trent explained this when he wrote that he was very much looking forward to having his breast implants removed and getting men’s clothes back into his wardrobe: “It’s really been so exciting going back to who I really am!” He also noted: “Hidden deep underneath the make-up and female clothing was the little boy carrying the hurts from traumatic childhood events and he was making himself known. Being a female turned out to be only a cover up, not healing.”

Such attempted cover-ups are analogous to reaching for a mirage. In this case we might say it’s a rainbow-like mirage. Regretters are not unlike Dorothy—and all of us—who sang wistfully searching for a place “over the rainbow” where our troubles melt away. But the rainbow always recedes as you try to reach it. And it’s ephemeral, disappearing with varying conditions.

At some point, like Dorothy, you realize that there really is no place like home. You can finally see the magic, the warmth, in the seemingly mundane. But regretters first need to escape the isolation and the loneliness foisted on them by a culture that rejects their condition.

As Walt notes, they need support to make this trek, as did he: “Regretters going back need people around them to lend strength for the journey – people willing to listen with love, speak healing words, provide emotional, legal and financial assistance and cheer them on to their homecoming.”

“Trans Life Survivors” serves as a road map to make that journey back home.

blueeyedangel #fundie officialprussianblue.net

I believe Futurama (from the same creator as The Simpsons) is also a subtle form of propaganda. It takes diversity to a whole new level. Not only are whites peacefully co-existing with other races, but humans are peacefully co-existing with other species (aliens, mutants, robots, etc).

The show is sacreligious. It makes fun of Christmas (portraying Santa Clause as a terrifying robot). There was one episode where they had proven that God does not exist, but there were still some monks in outer space that were searching for him.

In the first episode there were "suicide booths" were people could enter a quarter and choose to die "quick and painless" or "slow and horrible". They show one of the characters (I forget the name) walking around with a skimpy shirt, bear midriff. It promotes sexual promiscuity, for example, the one-eyed-alien has sex with the captain.

All the while it portrays the future in an up-beat, optimistic light...

Dave Hawkins #fundie iidb.infidels.org

I was at the Chicago Lego store today and noticed that they depict dinosaurs with humans on one of their sets ...

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Many of you are aware of Carl Baugh's recent find, supposedly of human and dionsaur footprints in the same strata. And many of you are probably aware of the many legends that exist causing us to believe that dinosaurs and humans probably co-existed, including the Biblical Book of Job Chapters 40 & 41.

Anyway, I think it's obvious that they DID co-exist ... and from this box, it appears that either there is a 'renegade creationist' on the loose in the Lego art department (send out the attack dogs, Prof Dawkins), or Lego management has been to Ken Ham's Creation Museum.

Either way ... Way to go Lego! Let's get started early teaching kids the right things about science!

kisur #fundie express.co.uk

Violence in inherent in Islam. Inviting adherents to a backwards, barbaric, Eastern ideology to come 'co-exist' with modern, democratic, Christian, Jewish, Buddhist, Sikkh or Hindu people in modern, progressive Western civilizations is a very evil thing to do as they will always refuse to co-exist with us as they are told to do by their 'Holy' book. The verse of the sword is what these people live by. Sadly, we will probably end up having to fight them in the streets one day.

OhZone #conspiracy abovetopsecret.com

Why exactly was evolution necessary?
And why are you stuck with thinking that it happened on Earth?
Where is the proof? There is none. There is no evidence that one species ever evolved into another. The only thing evident is that there are many different similar creatures that existed at apparently different times, and many that co-existed.
Why exactly do most people refuse to think outside the box?
Why exactly do most people automaticly toss out the idea that Earth was in fact colonized by people from other worlds?

Who were these people and where did they go?
who were they

And look at the skulls of these Egyptian mummies. They are of a different species that modern man. Where did they go?

Tyler Bryant #fundie quora.com

No meteor impact wiped out the dinosaurs millions of years ago, because they have co-existed with man throughout the bulk of their history since the Creation Week. See video below overwhelming proof in many forms of dinosaur and man-co-existence. Applying imagination to the superhero though, I’m sure anyone could conjure a way for Hulk to survive among dinosaurs considering we did, and still do. If you don’t know Jesus as your personal LORD and Savior, you can by simply sincerely believing by heart and confessing by mouth that He is the Son of God, who came in the flesh, died on the cross for your sins, was buried, and rose from the grave on the third day(John 3:16, Romans 10:9, 1 Corinthians 15:1–4). Doing so you can be saved from your sins’ consequences and receive everlasting Salvation to spend Eternity with God. Will answer any further questions if you ask.

Jim Franklin #conspiracy setiathome.berkeley.edu

This post is inspired by the other thread about Aliens in the Solar System, and is designed for discussion as a possibility not as a serious theory so please do accept only as a discussion topic.

Recently evidence has emerged that there were far more Homo species co-existing on Earth that anyone had ever thought existed at all. Further we have shown that Anatommically Modern Humans (You and I) have been about for somewhere between 220,000 and 280,000 years. Also Home Florensiensis (The Hobbit) is showing that perhaps our ideas of Intelligence and Brain size are not as simple as we once thought.

My thoughts are this, we have many myths on Earth that are similar, despite being seperated by millenia and thousands of miles, many stories of Gods have images of similar appearence, now all this could simply be caused by influence and coincidence (Which I honestly believe it to be), however what if around 50,000 years ago a group stated on the Road we did about 5,000 years ago, then what if they developed technology analogous to us today, then the Ice Age began, they could do nothing about it and some actually left the planet and moved into space, perhaps beyond the Solar System. Maybe some of the Unique people that have existed in History are somehow connected to this group, perhaps the Gods of Pre-History were members of this group who found their way back here?

Perhaps then Aliens could be here, but we would not know as they look exactly like us, because We are the Aliens??

OK so this is likely to be a load of old bollox, but it is not impossible in some context either.

Anyone got any thoughts on this?

A. A. Allen #fundie miraclevalley.net

The reason [that faith healing does not work] that stands out above all others is lack of faith. You may say, "I have faith. I know God is able to heal me. But why does He not do it?"

Do you believe He will heal you...now?

You say, "I hope He will. I know God does heal today. I've been to Brother So-and-so's big meeting and seen hundreds healed. But when he laid his hands on me I didn't get healed."

What you have is not faith - it is hope. You hope to be healed. You have knowledge ? you know God is able to heal and does heal. You believe what you have seen, but you do not have faith. Faith is believing what you have not seen, simply because God says it is so (see Hebrews 11:1). If you had faith, you would have already been healed.

A dear sister came to me with a deaf ear. She had been deaf in that ear for many years. She said, "I don't see why I don't get healed. I have as much faith as anyone. I have all the faith in the world." I carefully explained to her that if she had real, living faith to that extent, it would be impossible for her to remain deaf, because real faith works. Faith without works {faith that doesn't work) is dead (James 2:20). Real faith is guaranteed to bring results, for God is faithful to His promises. When she recognized that she was lacking in faith, she humbly asked God to forgive her for doubting Him and to help her unbelief. Immediately, her ear was unstopped.

Samuel James #fundie patheos.com

What concerns me, though, is the possibility that Mr. Cook, and many of his fellow liberals, actually do understand what Jim Crow laws were, what the Indiana RFRA does, and still believe that a connection between the two is logical. What we’ve seen in American culture over the last few years is a tectonic shift in how many on the left think about the relationship between sexual politics and law. Emerging is a portrait of what my friend Alastair Roberts calls “New Morality.” New Morality is a specific narrative about human ethics, particularly the sexual kind, that places certain moral demands on all who want to participate in public life. The New Morality is specific about what must happen to those who refuse its worldview: They must relinquish the right to be heard.

New Morality is not liberalism, at least the way liberalism is often explained. Most social conservatives see the major threat of liberalism as permissiveness, the sanctioning of immoral or un-American behavior that threatens the social order. There’s still truth in that, of course, but New Morality is actually the opposite of permissiveness, it is prescription. It’s not quite right to think of New Morality liberalism as simply allowing too many things. Rather, by subjugating civil life to a set of postmodern doctrines about the autonomous self, it allows too few. Dissent has become heresy, and heresy cannot co-exist with the pure faith. We used to picture liberalism as pushing the boundaries of our conscience. New Morality liberalism has found an entirely new conscience, and seeks to shrink the margins, not expand them.

The belief that the Indiana RFRA is a license for discrimination is coherent only if one believes that offering any sort of legal recourse for businesses in discrimination lawsuits is itself intolerant. But that’s exactly where the times have taken us. We have arrived at a place where prominent columnists can speak openly about “stamping out” voices who disagree with New Morality. We see private Christian universities punished for hiring policies consistent with their charters and articles of faith. We see the personal lives of judges carefully screened and regulated for anti-New Morality activity. What is being created before our eyes is in no way secular. It is religion, and religious orthodoxy is the price of citizenship.

So then, we come back to the issue of what liberalism means. My question is: Who are today’s liberals? Who are the ones who will protest the creation of a state faith in New Morality and argue for the public inclusion of those with differing opinions? Who will widen the margins of civic life? Where are the true Jeffersons, the spokespeople for pluralism, the lovers of debate and of bottom-up cultural creation?

Can we find those liberals who defer to debate and persuasion rather than fiat and coercion? I’m afraid we have no choice. This isn’t about special protection for or the privileging of evangelicalism; it’s about recovering a sense of belonging for all in the public square. To be liberal is to believe that no social orthodoxy is ever worth more than freedom of conscience. That is precisely the conviction that is at risk today. Against this backdrop, Indiana’s RFRA is a fundamentally liberal law. The question is: Where are its liberal champions?

James Miller #sexist returnofkings.com

The Case For Gendo-Nationalism
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James Miller is a political strategist and policy intellectual from New York City. He is the founder and president of the James Miller Foundation.

The alt-right and their leaders have often stressed the need for the establishment of a ethno-state on the North American continent. While I can understand many of their concerns as a middle-class white guy who lives in a gated community in the suburbs of New York City, I honestly do not have to deal with the minority problem on a day to day basis.

Whether the Bronx is being flooded with new arrivals is simply not my problem. Thots, on the other hand, affect us wherever we live. It doesn’t matter how great your neighborhood is or even how religious your state is. America has become a degenerate nation, and thottery has pervaded all aspects of American life—Northern and Southern, Protestant and Catholic, conservative and liberal, normie and alt-right.

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A thot prepares to flash her breasts to a crowd of onlookers in a ‘conservative’ state in the Deep South.

Traditionalism Is Hopeless

Many on the right advocate for traditionalism. They think we can just return to the days of a nuclear family, reverse all three waves of feminism, and let women assume their traditional role. While I respect the arguments made by traditionalists, I have concluded that any sort of rollback is now politically impossible in the United States. We have lost the culture war. There is no going back. Sure, you can flee to a country where remnants of traditionalism still exist, but they are merely a little further back on the ongoing global shift towards female ‘liberation’ and the dissolution of family life.

Furthermore, while this problem has been substantially amplified in recent years, it is certainly not a modern one. Thots have consistently been the downfall of powerful men throughout history. John F. Kennedy was compromised by the Soviet Union as a result of depraved female temptresses. Even Adolf Hitler’s defeat in the Second World War can be attributed largely to the presence of Eva Braun. Cleopatra’s betrayal of Mark Antony the moment a more alpha chad arrived on the scene surely serves as one of the clearest demonstrations of the subversion of the opposite sex.

Richard Spencer similarly and correctly recognizes a return to the days of actual white supremacy is impossible and undesirable, and instead advocates for a white ethno-state, building on the momentum of left-wing identity politics movements. Although I respectfully disagree with him on that issue, his fundamental analysis is correct. We cannot return to an undefined point in the past when things were somehow better on the issues that we care about. All we can do is seek to influence the future. I have thus come to the conclusion that the only solution to our current thot debacle is peaceful separation between the sexes, and a resulting male gendo-state.

Now, this notion may sound absurd. Most traditionalists love and respect women, and simply wish for them to return to their historical place in society, rather than be done away with altogether. They must come to understand that separation has now become a necessity.

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We may reach the point of open conflict with the opposing gender.

Separation Is Necessary

Cultural feminism has degraded women to the point where co-existence is a net negative to males. Women weaken men by their very presence, co-opting and hijacking even traditionalist movements by embracing the rhetoric and yet leaving much to be desired in terms of the personal example they set.

As the last few weeks have shown, women are able to completely destroy the reputations of decent, upstanding men through false accusations of sexual abuse. Women compete with us in a job market that is rigged against us by politicians who have come to see women as an essential voting bloc to appease. Women now even proudly declare that they do not need or want men in their lives.

Why don’t we put that to the test? Let us see how well the opposing gender fares when left completely to their own devices. In this way, we could use the rise of feminism as force of acceleration in order to promote our bid for nationhood. It is ironically fairly likely that the world’s first gendo-state will consist of pink haired female ogres LARPing as Amazons. But once the precedent is set, males will have a unique opportunity to seize the moment and build the case for our secession.

The Vision

Gendo-nationalism would involve near-total separation between men and women. A physical border would be erected between the respective male and female nation-states, and travel between these gendo-states would be tightly controlled and require permission from the governing authority of the gendo-state being entered. In the male gendo-state, which I have little doubt will be far more successful than its female competitor, male chauvinism will be the zeitgeist of the new order.

In addition, we need to think about the only real thing we need women for—sex. Advancements in robotics in recent years are quickly making this need obsolete. Future improvements in cloning technology may even allow us to replace women for the purposes of reproduction. Until the point at which a solution is devised, the gendo-state could have a work visa system which prostitutes and surrogates could utilize without permanent settlement in our new nation.

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Soon, we will no longer need women to lead fulfilling sex lives.

The Path Ahead

Before we can have separation, we need to have a general sense of male identity. Now, I believe this to an extent to be inherent and hardwired, hence the presence of so many all-male social groups in our society. Nevertheless, we must promote the importance of masculinity and push close identification with our gender’s collective interests as a component of that.

Subsequently, we need to urge our fellow men to gradually start removing all emotional attachment to women. They’re to be seen as a tool, not a crutch. Emotional attachment makes men the weaker sex because women are inherently able to exploit it, and ensures the perpetuation of the anti-male status quo. Once it is overcome, the foundations for a gendo-state can be laid.

Free from the shackles of womankind, men will be able to embrace their true potential. We will have hours more in our days which would otherwise be wasted on entertaining vacuous thots. We will no longer be treated like second class citizens in the very nations we built and shed our blood for. Our inherent physical and mental supremacy will give us a substantial edge in the world marketplace. Much as ethno-nationalist movements played a major role in defining the 20th century, my hope is that gendo-nationalism will define the 21st.

Roosh #fundie rooshv.com

The left has decided that they no longer want to live among people who share different views than them. They are plugging their fingers in their ears while yelling racist, fascist, Nazi, and Hitler. They are refusing to yield, compromise, debate, or even accept that their political positions are starting to lose in democratic elections despite suspected cheating that aids them. This has put us squarely in the middle of a cold civil war where both sides of the political spectrum are warming to the idea of killing each other.

A confirmation of the left’s defeat is apparent when you see how their maniacal behavior converts more people, especially moderates, against them. The biggest recruiting tool against the left has become the left. Every time they protest, riot, screech against white people, or show their vulgarity, the remaining mentally sane of America realize that the left’s platform has become so out-of-touch that it no longer represents the basic ideals of the country. The non-cucked right needs to merely show up after temper tantrums and say “Look how crazy they are” for the converts to come pouring in.

The left is out of options

Many people are wondering why the left has become a recruiting agent for the right by promoting or engaging in violence. First, they simply don’t know what else to do. When a parent tells a child that he can’t eat candy for every meal, and the child doesn’t have a logical argument about the merits of eating that candy, what does he do? He cries, stomps his feet, threatens to run away, throws out insults like “meanie” and “jerk,” and may even hit his parent to get his way. Donald Trump and his supporters are the parents who won’t yield to an emotional child.

The second reason why the left is hurting their cause with violence is because its billionaire controllers, particularly George Soros, want to divide America to such an irreparable extent that a hot Civil War is forced, giving them an opportunity to increase their power. Soros wants to create so much hate, animosity, and chaos that any resulting conflict has a chance of him holding absolute power, compared to the current situation where he has “only” a moderate amount. In other words, he rather take the chance of war to solidify his grip further.

The leftists that Soros sponsors in the Woman’s Marches and the antifa outbursts may also want a Civil War, but a quick look at their physiognomy shows they would struggle to even go one day without electricity, and that they possess the same psychological directive as the child who is angry that he can’t have candy. Soros is the creepy old neighbor who promises them the candy they crave because he wants to build their trust and get them alone. The child, naive about the extreme danger that lurks behind the likes of Soros, decides to follow him into a van parked in the alley to spite its own parents and their righteous authority.

The reason the right has been reluctant to respond with violence is because they’re winning. Violence comes not from a position of strength, but desperation, when every other option has been extinguished, and should serve as a signal to you of what the real score between the left and right really is. Without violence, the left currently has a 100% chance of losing, continuously and humiliatingly, for at least the next eight years. All the gains that took them decades to achieve will be lost if we ravage and rape their power structures.

With a hot civil war, the left has a 25% chance to win, a bet they are willing to take even though there is a high chance they will be among the first to die in the conflict. A logical person would ask why they would push for a conflict that is sure to destroy the infrastructure of the urban centers they live in, and one where food, water, and other basic necessities would be lacking. The answer comes upon realizing that a child does not realize that eating candy every day will make him sick. The child must therefore be commanded for its own good, because it does not have the capability to take care of itself or understand the consequences of its actions.

We all lose in a hot war

Before the warrior in you gets excited at the prospect of crushing the left in a hot war and killing antifa members with high-powered weapons as they wield sharpened mop handles at you, understand that any war in the United States would quickly become a proxy war involving all major military powers, particularly China and Russia, who would rush to spend billions of dollars to have ultimate control of the country. It would be protracted and match the first civil war in terms of brutality, where 2% of the population died.

With the current population, a 2% death rate would result in over 6 million deaths. Compared to the 3,000 that died on 9/11, which was seen as the greatest national tragedy of modern times, a hot war would effect every single American in a profoundly negative way. No sane person with a family would wish for this outcome, which further highlights the insanity of much of the left in pushing for this very result. They rather see millions of people dead and the country ruined than accept a democratic process where their crazy ideas lost.

Even if we avoid a hot war, the underlying problems are not solved. The left will constantly subvert against the country in hopes of achieving a hot war, use both economic and physical violence against those on the right whom they disagree with, and inevitably descend into terroristic violence that rivals ISIS. It’s intolerable for things to proceed as they are, but if we remove a hot war from the table, what option is left?

1-800-DIVORCE

I recommend the long divorce option, which has three components. The first is extreme law and order. Starting with the Federal government, every single instance of leftist threats, intimidation, and violence must be investigated, prosecuted to the maximize allowable by law, and publicized. The left have been getting away with their illegal acts for too long, to the point where violent protesters don’t even fear arrest, thanks to Democratic mayors and police chiefs who allow it. The FBI must uphold the law and punish those who break it, and municipalities or universities that allow illegal acts must be punished through withholding of Federal funds. This will immediately shrink the number of violent agitators on the left and limit the power of their institutions.

The second component of the long divorce option is to excise the left from all centers of cultural power so that they cannot actively convert the youth. The fake news, already on its last legs, must be replaced by organizations that are not so vehemently anti-American, academia must be purged, and all globalist traitors working in government, both on the Federal and state level, must be removed from positions of power.

The media is hemorrhaging money and viewers, millions of citizens are getting red pilled to the subversiveness of the academic system (particularly its anti-male and anti-white agenda), and Trump has begun to right the ship in the Federal government, which will certainly trickle down to the local levels. Because the leftist establishment is losing control over their narrative, the younger Generation Z is already showing signs of rightward thinking thanks to being raised on 4chan memes more than TV programming. This means that we simply need to remove millennials from power and wait for them to die of old age or AIDS while preventing them from causing further damage to American institutions.

Halting immigration is the third component of the long divorce option. The left has not been able to show how immigrants benefit American citizens besides more diverse restaurant options, and emotional pleas of “human rights” and “compassion” is not sufficient enough to turn the United States into a big welfare office. Open-borders immigration is hurting existing citizens, serving as a cynical means for leftists to gain more votes in elections while browbeating their enemies with “hate speech” codes that demand you love non-Americans more than Americans.

We must also advocate for a white population that increases from where it currently stands, because America is no longer America if that number dips below 50%, and will instead look something like an international airport. Once immigration is stopped, and illegal citizens are deported, it will become monumentally more difficult for open-borders politicians to win nationally again. This can be absolutely ensured if woman’s suffrage is repealed, a proposition that I know many find unpalatable, but one that would usher in an era of permanent winning.

[Submitters note: trying to repeal women's suffrage is probably why the hypothetical leftists want to kill you Roosh]

For us to win without a hot civil war, we have to retake the reins of power and peacefully co-exist with bitter leftists over the next fifty years while the culture slowly heals itself. Once institutions are purged of anti-American leftists, the new left will exist in more of a classical liberal form and believe in nominally nationalist ideas while accepting cultural values that are shy of traditional. The long divorce option will not excite you because of the length it takes to see a resolution, but it’s one that will preserve life and the existing infrastructure of the United States.

Four future outcomes

There are four outcomes that can proceed from the juncture of which we stand. The first is a globalist resurgence at the polls thanks to demographic changes that push the vote far to the left, starting in 2024. If this happens, we will have a president that is more authoritarian than Hillary Clinton. The boot will come down on all facets of American life, especially speech, and we will essentially be living in an open-air prison.

The second outcome is a hot war where we win. The country will be ravaged and millions will die, but at least most of the deaths will be leftists.

The third option is a hot war where we lose because of foreign involvement. Not only are we much more likely to die in this engagement, but the globalist boot will come down with such a viciousness that those on the right who survive may hope that they had died in the war.

And the fourth option is the long divorce, one that we will easily win if the recommendations I made above are taken. Very few people die and life can proceed with high stability and prosperity for the majority of the country.

The globalist left has so damaged the country from the decades they’ve been in power that there is no quick fix, and those of us who are alive today will likely not see a resolution that can be argued as “complete victory” during our lifetimes. I understand the frustration that many on the right have, and the desire they have to be immediately cured of poisons that the left has unleashed, but we must carefully analyze any outcome that results in the deaths of our loved ones and even ourselves. There is a time and place to die for what you believe in, but I hope I have convinced you that we have not yet reached that critical moment and that we can avoid the downsides of a hot civil war and the globalist boot by taking on the option of the long divorce to still win in the end.

The laws we have on the books are enough—let’s enforce those and allow the country to focus on itself instead of empire building and policing while the media and universities collapse upon the weight of their own lies and degeneracy. Besides, the entertainment value in watching the left screech and yell for the next several decades is sure to bring us reams of pleasure. That’s a better outcome than outright war.

The all golden #racist reddit.com

I don't quite get your point. You don't have to look much farther than our nation's immigration policies pre-1960s to see clearly that we favored white immigrants over non-white. Of course there would exist cultural differences between white Americans, we all had to have come from Europe, which has many diverse cultures, but the beauty of being racially homogeneous meant that these cultures co-existed rather peacefully and we were able to make some pretty amazing strides. This wasn't some complex structure, it was simply natural to want a country that's racially homogeneous, that's how all societies organize.
The U.S is at its core white, that's how its been for the vast majority of its history. I do accept the fact that we certainly can allow non-whites to live here, blacks have been here for as long as whites have and the U.S is as much their home as it is ours. I just want a return to sanity, there is a clear trend among the left that we can't have a majority white population, that we need less and less white people. This entire movement is a reaction against that trend, some are far more extreme than I am. I don't consider myself a fascist, a monarchist or any other form of authoritarian. I'm more of a centrist than anything and I think our political system is great, though corrupted and in need of a cleaning. At the very least, we need to end policies that favor non-whites over whites and start enforcing border security, at the most we need to restrict immigration to allow in only high skill specialists and start incentivizing whites to marry more and have more children.

The all golden #fundie reddit.com

I don't quite get your point. You don't have to look much farther than our nation's immigration policies pre-1960s to see clearly that we favored white immigrants over non-white. Of course there would exist cultural differences between white Americans, we all had to have come from Europe, which has many diverse cultures, but the beauty of being racially homogeneous meant that these cultures co-existed rather peacefully and we were able to make some pretty amazing strides. This wasn't some complex structure, it was simply natural to want a country that's racially homogeneous, that's how all societies organize.

The U.S is at its core white, that's how its been for the vast majority of its history. I do accept the fact that we certainly can allow non-whites to live here, blacks have been here for as long as whites have and the U.S is as much their home as it is ours. I just want a return to sanity, there is a clear trend among the left that we can't have a majority white population, that we need less and less white people. This entire movement is a reaction against that trend, some are far more extreme than I am. I don't consider myself a fascist, a monarchist or any other form of authoritarian. I'm more of a centrist than anything and I think our political system is great, though corrupted and in need of a cleaning. At the very least, we need to end policies that favor non-whites over whites and start enforcing border security, at the most we need to restrict immigration to allow in only high skill specialists and start incentivizing whites to marry more and have more children.

James Powers #fundie youtube.com

Sorry atheist fool, but I'm a 58 year old retired doctor that's studied these topics for almost 50 years. That means my education dwarfs yours. My facts can't be debunked: Existence of God? Creation? The best example of God’s existence is his best creation: The human being. Mankind is BY FAR the most intelligent, resourceful and powerful entity in the universe, and we don't have a clue as to how to design/create the high-complexity/high function as that found in the human being, and create it from NOTHING. So whoever did design/create the human being, has intelligence, resources and power FAR BEYOND that of mankind. Only a brilliant divine God could design/create the high-complexity/high function found in the ready-to-reproduce human being, which has all the co-existent bodily systems (circulatory, respiratory, reproductive, pulmonic, digestive, skeletal, muscular, nervous, body (skin), etc., etc.) intertwined in symmetry and order that only a DIVINE MIND could produce. And we certainly didn’t come from the non-existent MINDLESS UNGUIDED processes of atheism (big bang, abiogenesis, evolution) that CAN’T
EVEN THINK. Also, the lies of atheism (big bang, abiogenesis, evolution) have no LIFE, INTELLIGENCE or MORALITY to give, so it’s IMPOSSIBLE that the lies of atheism (big bang, abiogenesis, evolution) are the source for LIFE, INTELLIGENCE & MORALITY. The ONLY OPTION of the source of life, intelligence and morality, is from our living, intelligent moral God. It’s not even a conversation. Atheism = shallow thinking rebellious stupidity.

NEVER has there been a KIND of animal that has produced a new anatomical feature or function to begin a new KIND of animal (evolution). "Dogs" remain "dogs" no matter how far back you go. Same with bacteria. Richard Lenski of Michigan has been breeding ecoli strains for thirty years now, he and his lab, have generated 66,000 generations of ecoli and none have changed to anything but ecoli. No lab on the planet earth has observed one bacterium, one insect or animal morphing into anything else. And not even beginning to, w/ no anatomical change whatsoever. Atheism and it's religion of evolution is easily debunked... obviously.?

Maltese Pastor Vince Fenech #fundie maltatoday.com.mt

Far from becoming extinct 65 million years ago, the dinosaurs actually co-existed with early humans, and even helped in the construction of the pyramids.
This is the word of Vince Fenech, Evangelist pastor and director of a fully licensed, State-approved Creationist institution which admits children aged between four and 18.
“Of course the ‘dinoceros’ existed (as Fenech pronounces the word). It is mentioned in the Book of Job. They were used to help build the pyramids,” he says, adding that this latter observation is only “his personal belief”, and that it does not form part of the school’s curriculum.

Aung San Suu Kyi & Viktor Orbán #racist #fundie theguardian.com

Aung San Suu Kyi finds common ground with Orbán over Islam

On a rare trip to Europe, Myanmar leader and Hungary PM discuss issue of ‘growing Muslim populations’

From her failure to speak out against ethnic cleansing to imprisoning journalists, the reputation of Aung San Suu Kyi in the west has taken a battering in recent months.

But the leader of Myanmar has found a new ally in far-right, staunchly anti-immigrant Hungarian prime minister Viktor Orbán.

In a rare trip to Europe, state counsellor Aung San Suu Kyi, the Nobel peace prize laureate who was once the figurehead of the fight for democracy in Myanmar, met Orbán in Budapest. There, the two leaders found common ground on the subject of immigration and Islam .

“The two leaders highlighted that one of the greatest challenges at present for both countries and their respective regions – south-east Asia and Europe – is migration,” read a statement released after their meeting.

“They noted that both regions have seen the emergence of the issue of co-existence with continuously growing Muslim populations.”

Once lauded as the great democratic hope for Myanmar, Aung San Suu Kyi, who was elected as civilian leader in 2015 after living under house arrest by the military for 15 years, has proved a marked disappointment to most western governments who were her champions.

Her failure to condemn the military’s violent crackdown on the Muslim Rohingya minority in 2017 – which saw thousands of Rohingya raped and killed in what the UN described as an exercise in ethnic cleansing – and her defence of the military’s brutal actions against Myanmar’s Muslims have proved particularly contentious.

Power Point Paradise #fundie powerpointparadise.com

You know how people parrot the media: "Well, that Loch Ness Monster is just a myth and a legend!" Well is it really? There are "only" 800 official sightings, beside the "un-official" ones, and a couple of pictures of the beast like the one below. And several serious local newspaper reportings of people who saw "Nessie", like this clipping from 1935?

NEWSPAPER ARTICLE FROM 1935, TITLED: The Loch Ness Monster at Tea.
LONDON -- In far off Inverness shire, the Loch Nes Monster became active again [on June23] to show his appreciation of the summer weather. He was seen at Halfway House near Invermoriston by sixteen persons, mostly tourists having tea at the time.
George Sutherland of Edinburgh, one of the witnesses, said that the proprietress of Halfway House called out: "There's the monster!" Everyone rushed out and saw part of the creature's back as it emerged from the bay and made its way across the lake. It moved about for twenty minutes before it disappeared. "I cannot say what it was," Sutherland said, "but it was a living creature. It was no hallucination."

BELOW ARE SONAR PICTURES OF THE LOCH NESS "MONSTER"
The water of Loch Ness turned out to be so murky and black, being filled with peat particles, that a specially built submarine launched to hunt for the monster, had to abort its mission, as the crew couldn't even see one meter ahead through its portholes.
Then the whole lake, one of the deepest in the world being hundreds of meters deep, was searched with sonar equipment and these are some of the results. One can clearly see the body, fin, neck and head on the left and two other pictures show the diamond-shaped fin of this living water dragon!?Or if you prefer: a plesiosaur or pliosaur! Because this so-called "monster" of Loch Ness, has all the earmarks of being a living Plesiosaur or some other "marine dinosaur" or rather Water Dragon, often seen by the Vikings in their time, who fashioned the bows of their boats like seadragons! ?Most likely to scare the real ones, that they had encountered on their many voyages, away! Vikings were more realistic than people today!

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"But I thought Dinosaurs became extinct 65 million years ago?
This Loch Ness creature is hardly taken serious by the media and general press, and normally pooh poohed as a hoax, hallucination, as a mysterious "monster" or as "cryptozoology!" Wish they would declare every rare bone and piece of a skull of "the human primates" as "Cryptozoology!" But those are immediately hailed as "missing links!" Only creationist scientists take "monsters" like this seriously, as one of the few remaining dragons, only labeled "dinosaurs" since 1875 by modernistic scientists of those days!
Did you know that Nessie--most likely a "plesiosaur" or a family of them--is only one of several waterdragons that survived thus far? The media, scientists and evolutionists ignore or minimise these facts, finds and phenomena. Why? Because it would negate the by the elite favored theory of evolution and their now widely promoted theory of "the asteroid that made dinosaurs extinct!" Because "long extinct dinosaurs preceding Man" paint a more believable Evolutionary scenario, than the truth: Live dragons co-existing with Man until now!
And so most scientists stick to Evolution like glue, as it's the only theory that's government- and tax-supported as well as widely funded, and because of professional peer pressure. And frankly, many, if not most of them, plainly despise the only possible alternative!--The theories of Creation and a Worldwide Flood, for which there are many proofs, both of which are supported by many historical accounts, the Bible and other reports and legends of almost every culture.
But most materialist, secular humanist scientists would rather die than adhere to these much more plausible theories! And sad to say many of them will, believing a lie and materialistic hoax perpetrated on bewildered mankind these last 125 years, to make them doubt anything supernatural, ghosts, angels, God and Jesus, to turn them to the opposite side!

"Well", you say, "they never really caught this marine dinosaur, and this may be the only one in the world, so that proves nothing! Are there any other documented sightings and witnesses reports?"

Latest Nessie picture, of course contested again!

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cookster #fundie cseblogs.com

I’ve also heard of another movement in certain Church’s that are trying to say that Jews do not need Jesus to be saved…something I vehemently disagree with. I have notice John Hagee really pushing for Christians and Jews to work together, I’m not quite sure what he is saying in relation to this subject…I just hope the Gospel message is not being pushed out in the name of “co-existing”. Isn’t it disturbing how many times that Christians do the wrong thing in the name of Christ over the last 2000 years?

Jim #fundie blog.jim.com

Entropy is always increasing. A fully disordered society is illustrated by wild animals and primitive peoples such as the Tasmanian aboriginals, where all other creatures except for close kin are enemies, obstacles or sources of raw materials – Hobbes state of war. So if you look back in history, you can always see entropic processes, bringing us back towards that condition.

So, how come ordered societies exist, how come surviving and prosperous societies are generally at least somewhat orderly?

You cannot make something clean without making something else dirty, but you can make any amount of stuff dirty without making anything clean. Order for the ingroup always comes at the expense of someone else: Thus, for example, chastity and monogamy requires men hitting badly behaved women with a stick. (Dalrock banned me for pointing this out.) Thus, for example, in Africa we saw societies that herded cattle and planted crops had to enslave, or kill and eat, vagrants that were apt to hunt other people’s cattle and gather from other people’s gardens. The shift from hunting and gathering to herding and gardening involved extended cooperation – and a fair bit of brutality to hunters and gatherers.

As birds are born to fly, humans are born to cooperate. That is our key capability. Our telos is various forms of cooperation, as the heart’s telos is to circulate blood. The whites of our eyes are white, so that other people can see what we are looking at. We are vulnerable to choking, because our throat is optimized towards making a wider variety of distinct sounds than other animals. We have a more muscles in our face than other animals, so that we can unfalsifiably communicate our emotional state, just as every feature of a bird’s anatomy is optimized for low weight and high metabolic output. This cooperation manifested as tribes cooperating to kill other tribes and capture their women. Order consists of extended cooperation. Because entropy naturally tends to increase, because there are a near infinity of ways for society to be disordered, but only a small number of ways for it to be ordered, maintaining order requires a fair bit of ruthlessness towards disorderly people and towards outgroups whose cooperation is unlikely. Gays undermine male solidarity. David’s mighty men could cohere because David could love Jonathan. David could love Jonathan because gays were put to death. Peoples who have gay parades do not win wars.

The ten commandments consist of four commandments concerning man’s relationship to God, five commandments that had the effect of ensuring that congregation of the Lord operated on a cooperate cooperate basis, and the final commandment, the tenth commandment, prohibited coming up with clever rationales for undermining, subverting, and re-interpreting those five.

The four commandments that facilitate cooperation are:
Exodus 20:

Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.
Thou shalt not kill.
Thou shalt not commit adultery.
Thou shalt not steal.
Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.

The rule on honoring thy parents and committing adultery secured ownership of family, thus cooperation within the family. The rules against killing, stealing, and false witness enabled economic cooperation on the basis of property rights and the market economy.

And the final commandment:

Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour’s house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour’s wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour’s.

prohibits people from concocting ingenious theories as to why someone else’s property or wife is rightfully their own – forbids the entire ideology and program of Social Justice.

Compliance to the four commandments concerning God made fellow members of the congregation readily identifiable, and by complying with these four commandments, for which compliance was as visible as possible, one gave other members of the congregation reason to believe one would comply with the other five commandments, for which compliance was less visible, and thus reason to believe that cooperation with people who complied with the first four would be reciprocated and rewarded by cooperation, resulting in cooperate/cooperate equilibrium.

Social Justice Warriors have turned the tenth commandment on its head, making envy and covetousness a sacrament. This explains their chronic failure to cooperate, explains why rallies to save the earth leave a snail trail of trash behind them. Social Justice declares that what people have is “privilege” and should be taken away from them. Which creates a society in which people have no reason to have wealth or family.

A religion is a synthetic tribe. If the priesthood has power and status, and also has open entry into the priesthood, one gets holiness spirals – as for example priestly celibacy. Cooperate cooperate equilibrium, giving every man his due, makes all good members of the religion equal in holiness though unequal in property and power, thus a holiness spiral is going to redefine holiness away from forms that promote cooperation. The tribal religion has to reward exceptional and unusual holiness with honor, but not power and wealth. Send saints to live in a hermitage with spartan living conditions on a remote island as far from the capital as possible, where they can demonstrate superior holiness without subverting and undermining social order. On the one hand, to encourage good behavior, the society must honor supererogatory holiness. On the other hand preaching superogatory holiness always threatens to redefine holiness in ways that undermine order, making holiness a force of disorder instead of order.

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Starbucks hates its customers, and LucasFilm hates its customers, which subverts cooperation on the basis of exchange. While practicing supererogation should be honored, preaching it needs to be forcefully suppressed. People who preach supererogation should not be martyred, which might increase their status, but rather treated like a stray dog that chases chickens – punished in ways that lower their status.

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If the Sovereign is forced to punish someone who preaches supererogatory holiness in a way that might potentially increase their status (and Charles the second was forced to burn one conspicuously and irritatingly holy nonconformist woman at the stake) the Sovereign should lock the body in a mortuary for three days, and on the third day ironically check the body to see if they have risen from the dead. But it is as dangerous to martyr those who preach supererogatory holiness, as it is to tolerate them. The Sovereign must always strike at primarily at their status, as Russia dealt with Pussy Riot and European University.

While entropy always increases, it is always possible to locally reduce entropy, usually at the expense of someone else less effective and successful at extended cooperation (as, for example, women, pussy riot, gays, or hunter gatherer outgroups).

The highest and best example of this is western civilization, which is anglo civilization, which is the restoration of Charles the Second. The restoration gave us science, technology, corporate capitalism, industrialization, and world empire, which represent the highest level of extended cooperation ever achieved.

The restoration cured the disorderly tendencies of the protestant holiness spiral by putting priests under bishops, and bishops under the King. Which was the imposition of order, at the expense of “non conformists” – whose very name implies their disorderly tendencies. “Non conformists” were priests, professors, judges, and suchlike who were disinclined to accept this hierarchy, on the grounds that the King at the top was conspicuously lacking in holiness. We need to do something similar with our university system, as well as radically reducing its size and the amount of time it sucks out of people’s lives – we need to do Charles the Second’s Bishops, and Henry the Eighth’s dissolution of the monasteries.

Universities have always had as their primary job inculcating people in the official religion, and giving people cultural and scientific knowledge has always been merely their secondary job. Lately, their secondary job has largely been abandoned. It used to be that giving people job skills was entirely irrelevant, since this was done by enforceable apprenticeship.

We shall restore the enforceable apprenticeship system and divest universities of the task of giving people job skills, in the process divesting them of the power to accredit people to jobs. We shall give considerably higher, but still secondary, priority to the task of giving people cultural and scientific knowledge, and change the official religion to make it saner, by erasing all doctrines that are potentially falsifiable by the realities of this world. Members of the elite will still be required to adhere to the official religion, as they are now, but the task of checking adherence will not be outsourced to the universities. Instead, people in state jobs and quasi statal jobs will be required to recite a catechism and take an oath.

Contrary to the myth about the plymouth rock puritans, that early puritans supposedly filled the North American continent, where we have genealogies, puritans are descended from those who left restoration England to establish their own dissident theocracy, not from the pre english civil war wave of migrants fleeing Charles the first, but from the post civil war wave of “noncomformist” migrants fleeing the restoration, fleeing Charles the Second and subsequent Kings. The first wave, the pre civil war wave, left very few direct descendants.

Restoration England was successful at elite eugenic reproduction, because women were kept under control, and cured the disorderly propensities of the protestant reformation by keeping “non conformists” under control, thereby enabling the extended cooperation that made science and industry possible. Immediately after the restoration, we see Ayn Rand’s heroic archetype appear, the scientist engineer CEO, mobilizing other people’s capital and other people’s labor to advance technology and make that technology widely available. Often these were people who before the restoration had competed for superior holiness, (analogous to Musk’s subsidized and money burning tesla, solar panels, and solar batteries), but after the restoration competed for creating technology to produce value (analogous to Musk’s reusable booster rocket.) This form of order was made possible at the expense of “non conformists”, such as the excessively holy woman that Charles the Second burned at the stake.

In order for society to have cooperate/cooperate equilibrium, the science, industry, and technology that we see promoted by the corporate form, in order to promote cooperation with cooperators, the sovereign must promote defection on defectors. One such defector being a holy woman conspicuously holier than Charles the Second. Charles the second successfully redirected status competition from unproductive channels into productive channels, as for example members of the Royal Society gaining status by discovering truth and speaking truth, while previously puritans had gained power and status by having a Christianity that was purer than the other man’s Christianity. You will notice that Putin dealt with Pussy Riot’s weaponized supererogatory holiness preaching in a way that deliberately maximized disorder – maximized outgroup disorder in order to sustain ingroup order. That is the way to do it.

The restoration created a society that had the greatest cooperate/cooperate equilibrium ever, where people were able to engage in positive sum cooperation, which was made possible by severely negative sum uncooperation – you cannot get more negative sum than burning an excessively holy woman at the stake. If Charles the Second had not burned a holy woman at the stake for excessive, conspicuous, and obnoxiously superior holiness, he would have had the William Wilberforce problem.

Humans are inherently tribal. We have ethnicities and religions, all of which are in substantial part the same phenomenon. A millet is a smaller tribe (religion) within the empire that the empire recognizes and grants some limited self rule and autonomy.

Two tribes cannot co-exist in overlapping territory, except they create little zones for themselves, for example the black table in school cafe. One tribe will always rule, and another will always be ruled. Segregation and Jim Crow was an effort to give blacks autonomy and self rule, make them into a millet, conditional on the black rulers assimilating to white middle class values and behavior. Integration proved to be black dominion. When the blacks were allowed to the front of the bus, they inevitably wound up forcing white people off the buses.

This tribalism is the problem with libertarianism – if you allow liberty, people will use it to synthesize smaller ingroups within the larger group in order to dominate the detribalized majority. William Wilberforce and his “elect” destroyed what the restoration had accomplished, undermining the small scale cooperation between men and women to have children, and the cooperation between elites and individual members of the elite to maintain an empire that kept large scale economic cooperation over the oceans. His successors transliterated the religion of the elect from the next world to this world, creating modern progressivism. Since the transliterated tenets, such as equality, are transparently false to this world, this required them to reject truth telling and truth speaking, resulting in peer review and the replication crisis that has destroyed science.

The earthly telos of holiness is to promote the broadest possible cooperate/cooperate equilibrium. Holiness competition results in people finding grounds to declare other people unholy, thus Starbucks and LucasFilms declare their customers unholy, thus holiness competition destroys the earthly telos of holiness. Therefore we cannot allow excessively holy people to gain power in the state religion. Instead, need to send Social Justice Warriors away from the universities off to a hermitage in a remote island and honor their superior holiness from a safe distance. If someone wants to demonstrate superior holiness, it should be costly for himself, rather profitable for himself, and costly for everyone around him. Superior holiness and performing superogatory acts has to be made unprofitable.

David J. Stewart #sexist jesus-is-savior.com

Last week in India a 23-year-old female student was brutally gang-raped by at least four males on a bus. She was admitted into the the hospital and listed in critical condition. The attack has caused public outrage and riots in Delhi, India...

India gang rape: Delhi bus driver held after attack
December 17, 2012

Indian police have arrested a bus driver in connection with the gang rape of a 23-year-old student on a city bus in the capital, Delhi. A police spokesman said other suspects had been identified from CCTV footage. The student and a male friend she was travelling with were beaten, stripped and thrown out of the bus in the attack on Sunday evening.

The attack has sparked outrage in Delhi, which is often seen as unsafe for women. The capital's rape figures are higher than for other Indian cities of comparable size, correspondents say.

Critical condition

The woman and her friend had boarded the bus from Munirka area and were on their way to Dwarka in south-west Delhi. They were returning after watching a film in a shopping centre in south Delhi, police said. The couple were attacked by "at least four men", police said. The couple have been admitted to hospital, where the woman is said to be in a critical condition.

On Monday, senior police officer Chhaya Sharma appealed to the public to help identify the owner of the bus. Delhi Chief Minister Sheila Dikshit has promised "strict action" against those responsible.

SOURCE: 23-Year-Old Female Student Gang Raped In India

I heard an angry woman protestor in the news say, “It doesn't matter how women dress” in India, men shouldn't rape them regardless of how they dress. I agree that men ought to be men, regardless of external influences. But the reality of the situation is that men aren't always going to do the right thing. There are evil men and good men in every place in the world. Good and evil always co-exist. May I say, IT DOES MATTER HOW A WOMAN DRESSES!!!

Certainly all forms of abuse are wrong and sinful. I am not defending evil men who prey upon the weak and vulnerable. Those men in the preceding tragic news story should receive the death penalty for their crimes. My heart goes out to the victims. However, it is apparent from all the fuss over the way the woman was dressed that it was indeed an issue. In any society where women dress immodestly, sexual immorality is commonplace, as well as sexual crimes. Any idiot can figure it out. Yet, feminists demand their rights, wanting to dress like sluts and still safely walk down the street at 2 AM in the morning.

The Bible teaches in 1st Timothy 2:9 that women should dress in “modest apparel.” The word modest means “of good behavior.” Hence, the manner in which a woman dresses conveys a messages to others of the type of character she has. There's no way around it. If you dress whorishly, then men will think you are loose morally and don't posses a high moral standard. A full-length dress on the other hand, says that you care about morality. Women who dress modestly are laughed at, ridiculed, and made fun of by wicked people. The question is, do you want to please God? Revelation 4:11 says that we were all created to please God. Hebrews 11:6 teaches that only by faith can we please God. Faith is obeying the Bible. All that we do (or don't do) because we fear God is by faith. A lady who has faith in God (or not) shows it by the way she clothes herself. Clothing speaks 1,000 words. A woman who takes her clothes off to sell a music album cannot be trusted. She has shady character, willing to hurt others morally to make money. IT DOES MATTER HOW YOU DRESS!

In May of 2011 feminist women across America and Canada went ballistic, angry over a police officer's honest statement that immodestly dressed women invited attackers. Women who have been Americanized have unrealistic ideas of what freedom means, and how the real world works. America is absolutely plagued with sexual sins and heinous crimes because of the prevalence of lewd MTV music videos, filthy-minded television programming, sex-ed in public schools and sexual-suggestiveness advertising everywhere we turn these days. Fool-headed feminists don't listen to helpful police advice, just like they don't listen to God in the Bible.

The Lord commands all women to dress in modest apparel (1st Timothy 2:9). That means you if you're a woman. The Police chief in Delhi knows that women who dress immodestly attract the wrong kind of attention from men. Ridding the earth of men is not the answer; but women putting their clothes back on (and keeping them on) in public is good advice and certainly will reduce the level of sexual crimes. Women who demand the right to dress whorishly, but still don't want to be attacked, are living in a fantasy world. I'll bet the women who was gang raped will wear clothes from now on. It shouldn't have to cost a person something to realize that they were wrong, but that's life. We all learn things the hard way to some extent.

Taylor Swift Is Pulling On The Same Rope As The Devil

I saw a 60-minutes special yesterday featuring Taylor Swift. The interviewer called Taylor Swift “a spiritual leader” in America to millions of youth. Miss Swift agreed and said she feels that it's her responsibility to recognize her tremendous power of influence as a role model over kids today. I've been saying that for a long time, that is, that young rebels like Taylor Swift, Miley Cyrus and Katy Perry have a massive influence on children and teens today, especially young girls. “A SPIRITUAL LEADER”... that's exactly what 60-Minutes called her, and it's very true. 60-Minutes praised Taylor Swift for not ending up in the tabloids for wrong doing; yet Taylor Swift needs to be publicly reprimanded and exposed for exposing herself bodily in her music videos and concerts. One of Swift's most popular songs is titled, FEARLESS. Evidently Taylor Swift is FEARLESS, because she certainly doesn't fear the God of the Bible who told her to dress modestly (1st Timothy 2:9). It's all about the love of money (1st Timothy 6:10).

David J. Stewart #fundie #conspiracy jesusisprecious.org

The bottom line is that the righteous and the ungodly cannot co-exist! Proverbs 29:27, “An unjust man is an abomination to the just: and he that is upright in the way is abomination to the wicked.” There is no common ground! The problem is that public schools legally demand for all children attend, unless parents can afford private school (which most cannot). You've got ungodly reprobates removing the Holy Bible and replacing it with the blatant lies of Evolution, inflicting these evils upon impressionable children, which horribly violates, offends and assaults Christian children and their parents! Only a Satanic-controlled Masonic federal U.S. government could get away with such a heinous crime! Freemasons should all be tried in a legitimate court (one not controlled by them), convicted and immediately hung until dead! That is how traitors were dealt with during The American Civil War. Freemasons are traitors to God, country and man!!! Hell will be filled with upper-level Freemasons, whose entire shameful organization wreaks of occult Luciferianism! Psalms 97:10a, “Ye that love the LORD, hate evil...” I hate Freemasonry, because it is evil!!!

The most prominent symbol of the Masonic control over America is the Washington Monument (which stands tall as a 666 foot erect male phallus; and 666 inches wide). Look on the reverse of any U.S. one-dollar bill, which is covered in Masonic occult symbols. What does that mean? It sadly means that Satan is the god of this wicked world, and Luciferians rule over America!!! That is why the land's highest courts today are legalizing all manner of filth, perversion, murder, adultery, greed, dishonesty, injustice and debauchery! I rejoice in knowing that their shallow victory will be very short lived. Job 20:5, “That the triumphing of the wicked is short, and the joy of the hypocrite but for a moment?” Ecclesiastes 5:8, “If thou seest the oppression of the poor, and violent perverting of judgment and justice in a province, marvel not at the matter: for he that is higher than the highest regardeth; and there be higher than they.” Born-again Christians alone are already on the winning side in Christ Jesus, more than conquerors through faith in God!!!

browntable759 #fundie imdb.com

Sci-ence. Noun. systematic knowledge of the physical or material world gained through observation and experimentation. Fact. Noun. a truth known by actual experience or observation; something known to be true: Source: Dictionary.com. Bones don't come with labels on them, saying how old they are. Neither do rock layers. Google "dating methods and assumptions" and see what you come up with. Also, do some research on dragon legends, like St. George and the dragon, and Beowulf. Many of the so-called dragon myths may well actually be historical documentation of human encounters with dinosaurs.I don't believe there's anything in science or history that unequivocally proves that humans and dinosaurs didn't or couldn't co-exist.

justnationalistthings #fundie justnationalistthings.tumblr.com

Can a Muslim be a good American? This question was forwarded to a friend who worked in Saudi Arabia for 20 years. The following is his reply:

Theologically - no, because his allegiance is to Allah.

Religiously - no, because no other religion is accepted by His Allah except Islam (Qur'an 2:256).

Scripturally - no, because his allegiance is to the five Pillars of Islam and the Qur'an.

Geographically - no, because his allegiance is to Mecca, to which he turns in prayer five times a day.

Socially - no, because his allegiance to Islam forbids him to make friends with Christians or Jews.

Politically - no, because he must submit to the mullahs (spiritual leaders) who teach the annihilation of Israel and the destruction of America, the great Satan.

Domestically - no, because he is instructed to marry four Women and beat his wife when she disobeys him (Qur'an 4:34).

Intellectually - no, because he cannot accept the American
Constitution since it is based on Biblical principles and he believes the Bible to be corrupt.

Philosophically - no, because Islam, Muhammad, and the Qur'an does not allow freedom of religion and expression. Democracy and Islam cannot co-exist! Every Muslim government is either dictatorial or autocratic.

Spiritually - no, because when we declare ‘one nation under God,’ we are referring to the Christian’s God and not Allah.

Therefore, after much study and deliberation, perhaps we should be very suspicious of ALL MUSLIMS in this country. They obviously cannot be both 'good’ Muslims and good Americans/Canadians; they cannot and will not integrate into the great melting pot of America.

The religious war is bigger than we know or understand. Muslims everywhere have said they will destroy us from within.

And it appears to be starting.

Robert Smith #racist amren.com

How a Young Black Man Became a Race Realist

I am a 21-year-old black man. I am an atheist, a registered Republican, and a member of Mensa. Already a minority within a minority within a minority, I have yet another idiosyncrasy that puts me in an even more unusual category: I am a race realist. I believe that consistently observed racial disparities in societal outcomes are largely rooted in genetic differences, primarily differences in average levels of intelligence.

High school

This was the first time race predominated in the social climate. I started to notice people self-segregating along racial lines. But most confusingly, black students who did not conform to stereotypes were considered “Oreos:” black on the outside, but white on the inside. I remember the following comments:

“You’re so quiet. Do you consider yourself black?” This from a white classmate, genuinely confused as to why I bucked the general black trend of rambunctious and loud behavior.

A white classmate says something racially offensive in my presence and another asks, “Why would you say that with a black person standing by us?” Answer: “It’s fine; he’s white at heart!”

An Asian classmate: “You’re an embarrassment to your race.”

A group of black students are listing black classmates whom they think act white, and include me: “Yes, he’s white on the inside. He has no accent and hangs out with too many white boys.” (The person who said that flunked out at the end of the school year. He enrolled in a predominately black high school and went to an HBCU. Two months ago, as of this writing, he was killed in a black-on-black crime. There were no protests or riots carried for him, since his death could not be made to look like black victimhood. He got nothing but a few people on Facebook posting his obituary. Maybe he should have acted more “white.”)

I not only saw blacks accuse other blacks of “acting white,” but, even more often, I saw whites accuse their black friends of “acting white.” My Asian friend — of whom I was quite fond — would often say that he didn’t consider me black. I found this extremely puzzling. To me, “acting white” meant being an Uncle Tom — someone who is intentionally betraying his race and cares more about the approval of whites than of other blacks. Being called an “Uncle Tom” is definitely not a compliment. In fact, it is one of the harshest insults for a black person.

The self-hating black person is derided in black culture, as in Uncle Ruckus from The Boondocks and Clayton Bigsby from the Dave Chappelle Show. Many blacks would rather associate with a murderer than with an Uncle Tom. This is not mere hyperbole. The black community eagerly embraces thugs and criminals who destroy their neighborhoods while it ostracizes its most principled members — educated and conservative blacks.

Even more confusing, I noticed that the more intelligent blacks would be particularly prone to accusations of “acting white.” All my life I had believed that trying to come across as an intelligent and civilized person, working hard, speaking standard English, assimilating into American society, not playing the race card, and not acting like a minstrel show character were characteristics of intelligence — not traits associated with any particular race. That ghetto blacks would accuse others of “acting white” I could, to some degree, understand. After all, the more academically oriented blacks did tend to associate more readily with white people than with other blacks, who tended to be ignorant. But what was truly mind-boggling to me was how whites and Asians could accuse blacks — even their own friends — of “acting white.” Why did they mock their black friends for doing what they were supposed to do? Why were intelligent and civilized blacks so often called race traitors by both blacks and whites?

Like an idiot, I succumbed to this pressure. I came to view hard work and academic success as “white” activities. I began to take school and life less seriously, approaching it with a half-hearted attitude, as if giving it my all would be “white,” and antithetical to the very core of my identity. I tried to the greatest extent possible to distance myself from my white classmates — not a good idea at a school that is 90 percent white.

I ended up graduating nowhere near the top of my class but still got into an elite college due to affirmative action and good test scores. I felt a bit guilty for gaming the system, but I felt I experienced discrimination — because of the “acting white” comments — and affirmative action was my way of getting back at an unfair system. (The same college also gave offers of admission to two other blacks from my high school. Their level of achievement was, obviously, high by black standards but also nowhere near the level that would have been required of a white or Asian.)

College

In college it soon became clear that I was woefully mismatched. I began to doubt whether I was smart enough to work at such an elite level. Perhaps the problem was me, not society.

Other black students were constantly on the watch for imaginary racism. They felt so self-entitled they drew up a document intended to force the school to accept more students and hire more professors from underrepresented races.

I doubted my abilities to such a great degree that I decided to get my IQ tested. My FSIQ (full scale IQ) was 141 — 99.7th percentile!

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I have included my hand in the photo to confirm that I am black.

Acting white

For years I was convinced that the major cause of black social pathology was this “acting white” accusation and the phenomenon of having to “prove” one’s blackness. It had certainly had a great effect on my life and impacted other high-IQ blacks around me. However, one day I came across a brilliant article by Steve Sailer addressing this topic.

He made the incisive point that doing well in school would not be considered “acting white” if blacks and whites had the same average IQ. That was my turning point. I realized that this was not a discrimination issue at all or even evidence of racial bias. What my white and Asian classmates meant when they accused blacks of “acting white” was not to call them “Uncle Tom” or “race traitor,” but something more along the lines of “you act more like a stereotypical white person than a stereotypical black person.” Factor in the differing average IQs, and it’s no wonder why the more intelligent blacks are often accused of “acting white.”

Of course high-IQ blacks will tend to associate more with a group that has an average IQ of 100 than a group with an average IQ of 85. This “acting white” phenomenon is exactly what one would expect when groups differing as significantly in intelligence as do black and whites co-exist: Behavior that is associated with intelligence becomes associated with whiteness.

I am now amused by how difficult it is to separate behavior that is stereotypically black from behavior that is generally associated with low IQ: making poor life decisions, failing in school, getting in trouble with the law, being loud and obnoxious, speaking poorly, promoting destructive and ignorant behavior, etc. Conversely, it is difficult to distinguish behavior that is “white” from behavior that reflects high IQ: being polite and civilized, showing emotional restraint, working hard, speaking articulately, being educated, being goal-oriented, listening to classical music, etc. It’s as though everyone subconsciously picks up on the IQ differences even if they don’t explicitly realize that what they’re noticing is different levels of intelligence.

I continued to study the question. I found that that other black members of Mensa are commonly told they are “acting white.” This pattern holds true throughout the world. High-achieving blacks in Britain hear the same thing. Successful Brazilian blacks are called the complimentary term “black with a white soul.”

I learned that literally everywhere in the world where blacks are found in large numbers, they exhibit lower rates of educational success and higher rates of criminality than other races. It’s no mystery why blacks who buck these trends are seen as different from other blacks.

I got my own DNA tested. I found out that I am 25 percent European — which is to be expected among American blacks. More interestingly, I learned that I was in the 96th percentile for Neanderthal ancestry among African-Americans. I find it amusing that I’ve so often had my blackness questioned; I’m unusually high in genetic material that is completely absent from pure Africans.

Compelling quotations

Here are a few observations by blacks that have stuck in my mind.

“Most of the people who were popular in my high school are either dead or in jail.” — my aunt

“This area was so nice when white people lived here.” — my grandmother, driving through a black ghetto

“I have been called ‘white’ my entire life. It’s a shame that just because I didn’t get high, skip class, and steal from the corner store I was thought of as a lame individual.” — a female cousin

“It’s not too often we get a young brother like you here. You’re proper. Most of the young black men I know besides you are thugs.” — a middle-aged black man I met during a summer internship

“N*ggers are terrible.” — my father, who often comes into contact with ghetto blacks in his line of work

“If it’s stupid, they like it.” — my grandmother, referring to young black people

“Why do we always have to come up with dumb shit?” — my extremely militant and pro-black uncle, lamenting black people’s proclivity for ignorance

It’s IQ, not racism

I now have no doubt about race realism. All the lines of evidence, from history to life experience, point to the same conclusion. All the usual excuses for black dysfunction are epiphenomenal and stem from the basic fact of lower average black IQ. Others viewed us as inferior because we never developed the wheel, a written language, a calendar, a mechanical device, or a two-story building. Slavery happened because whites (and Arabs before them) were able to enslave blacks; they had better technology and capitalized on the lack of black cohesion. Historians estimate that 90 percent of the slaves shipped to the New World were first enslaved by other Africans. (This is also consistent with Phil Rushton’s application of r/K theory; Africans have always shown low in-group preference.) All the usual explanations for black failure melt away once the fact of lower IQ is acknowledged. Anti-intellectual culture, poverty, bad schools, single-parent families, lack of role models, you name it — they are exactly what you would expect in a population with a lower average level of intelligence.

I certainly have learned much more about how the world actually works from great men like Phil Rushton, Richard Lynn, Steve Sailer, and Jared Taylor than I have ever learned from hucksters like Ta-Nehisi Coates, Jesse Jackson, or Al Sharpton. One might find race realism to be a depressing worldview; of course no one wants to believe that his race is much less intelligent on average than other races. But I truly believe that if you evaluate the evidence from an unbiased perspective and use logic rather than emotion, you cannot come to any other conclusion.

Furthermore, a worldview that takes into account human biodiversity is certainly more realistic and even hopeful than eternally yearning for whites suddenly to “wake up to racism” or voluntarily renounce their thirst for destroying “black bodies” — something Ta-Nehisi Coates thinks comes naturally to them. It is more hopeful than waiting for blacks around the world to stop creating “cultures of incompetence,” for which they seem to have quite a knack. It is more hopeful than waiting 250 years for the achievement gap to close or 228 years for the black-white wealth gap to close.

I now know what would theoretically be needed to close these gaps: a higher black IQ. I am free of any resentment against whites, for no matter how bad slavery, Jim Crow, or any other misdeed that whites are frequently made to feel guilty for, blacks around the world are infinitely better off than they would have been if whites had simply left them alone to live in mud huts and tote spears in Africa.

I feel empowered, for I now know that there is no impenetrable wall of white racism holding me back. In the words of the founder of logic, Aristotle, “The high-minded man must care more for the truth than for what people think.” If admitting the truth makes me an “Uncle Tom,” so be it.

As for my uncle’s question, “Why do we always have to come up with dumb shit?”, applying Occam’s razor will yield an elegant and parsimonious answer.

dhawkinsmo #fundie truthmatters.info

Evolutionists say that humans and dinosaurs did NOT co-exist, but numerous pieces of evidence indicate that they did, including the Biblical Book of Job, Chapters 40 & 41, legends of knights fighting “dragons,” artwork of dragons and dinosaurs, and fossilized tracks of human and dinosaur footprints together in the same strata.

The evolutionary establishment goes to great lengths to indoctrinate kids with their views about evolution, but apparently, the Lego artists who created this play set didn’t get the message. Way to go, Lego!

Alexandra Wuori #wingnut #moonbat #crackpot medium.com

For the sake of continuing this argument, let us temporarily say that we all agree that monarchism and socialism are not contradictory, that they are not incompatible, and that they could indeed co-exist within the same political system. What, then, would be the actual point of having monarchism and socialism together? What purpose can they serve, what benefit do they offer to one another? In order to answer that question, let us first declare that monarchism is a means, and that socialism is an ends.
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In a fully realized communist society, for example — after the revolution and after the abolition of state, class, and currency has been accomplished — a monarch could serve as an example of the “ideal communist citizen”, a positive icon for the people to look up to a shining illustration of how they should act and treat one another, or perhaps serve as some sort of “elder” or “wise person” for the commune, offering non-binding advice regarding major decisions; such a monarch is one that “uniquely leads” the people, rather than “rules” or “commands”.
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Finally, there is one last quibble that many socialists will have with monarchism: Succession. No matter how much or what kind of power a monarch has, many socialists will state that it is unfair that a person should have that power, based merely on the fact that a parent was the previous monarch. Indeed, simple hereditary primogeniture succession has proven itself disastrous for thousands of years now. The first-born child (often, the first-born male) inheriting the throne regardless of their competence often ends up disastrous; some absolutist monarcho-socialists, of course, may disagree with this assessment, even so.

Ann Barnhardt #fundie barnhardt.biz

The aberrosexual NFL washout Michael Sam “proposed” to the guy whose body he uses for masturbatory friction on the cupola of St. Peter’s Basilica in Rome – exactly, directly over the tomb of St. Peter. Because there was no other place on the surface of the earth that these shameless sodomites could have mocked and aped the sacrament of marriage. They had to do it whilst LITERALLY dancing on the grave of St. Peter.

Folks, the objective of these people and their satanic agenda is not, never has been, and never will be a “peaceful co-existence”. The order of progression, once sodomites are given even the slightest quarter in a culture, is:
Tolerance, acceptance, ratification, cooperation, participation.

Now you might be asking, “How can they force people to PARTICIPATE?”

The actor Billy Crystal, who actually played the first open sodomite character on teevee on the creepy sitcom SOAP in the ’70s, said recently that he really doesn’t care to watch sodomite sex scenes on teevee and in movies and was attacked and “forced” to apologize. Watching pornographic depictions of sodomite activity is a form of participation. Crystal was “punished” for stating that he preferred not to participate.

Nebmaatisus #fundie christianforums.com

Purrhaps the dinosaurs were destroyed by God to make way for Adam and Eve that were expelled from the Paradise?

Actually, humans and dinosaurs have co-existed, as birds can be classified as dinosaurs, or at least pterosaurs. The stories of dragons are interesting, too - could some dinosaur species have died out only a few millennia ago? It sounds unpropable, but is it completely impossible?

kirkz2006@yahoo.com #fundie groups.yahoo.com

(Comment on an article posted entitled "Buddhist Monk says all races and religions could live together if it weren’t for Muslims" http://www.myinfonews.net/2017/10/31/buddhist-monk-says-all-races-and-religions-could-live-together-if-it-werent-for-muslims/):

It's yet another reason to ban all Muslim immigration. Muslims are cancer to Western nations. Islam is incompatible with any form of government that isn't Islamic. Muslims as a group have proven over and over again that they refuse to co-exist with those of other religions.

Yet, idiot liberals in this country continue to call for tolerance of the intolerant.

KZ

Elizabeth Prata #fundie the-end-time.blogspot.ca

I don't know why scientists and unbelievers do what they do. Most of them are not trying to scientifically prove that the flood happened, they use science to prove it didn't. If they were scientifically honest they would understand that between the salinity of the seas, the difficulty in determining fossil age, and the fact that there are sea fossils on top of the Himalayas, they would see that science in fact proves the flood. Science proves the earth as young, creation of man, and the flood, as a matter of fact. Scientists ignore the science and pervert it to suit their reprobate minds just as the prosperity gospel preachers pervert the scriptures to pervert the word. It stems from the same source: satan the liar and the father of lies
As for the baby animals, I do not think it was any harder to care for them than an adult. Each has their own particular needs. Some theologians believe God put a spirit of docility into them so they could co-exist with each other and with man during the flood confinement. After all, God sent the animals to Noah and they docilely walked into the ark under their own steam. Noah did not have to hunt or trap them. So it seems they were already operating under a command of God. (Gen 6:20). It is not hard to believe their docility extended to the months on the ark and didn't end at the door when they walked in.

rod777 #fundie godlikeproductions.com

Liberals: Are They Even Human... Or A Different Species ?

Liberals...They Are:

Weinstein, Bergdahl, Snowden, Alinsky, Antifa, Manning, Hillary, The Media, The DNC…

Always those who Kill Babies, and The Elderly. Without Regret, or Excuse, Continuously Anti-America, Anti-Family, Anti-Right.

They Stand For Nothing, Refuse to Submit to Anything Except Their Own Desires, Always Choosing Against, and Not For, Never on the Side of Right, Never Duty, Honor, Country.

Confused About Evil, Ruled by Fear, the Solution Always Appeasement, and Surrender. Never Pride in Country, Allegiance to No One, and to Nothing.

Empty Carcasses With No Direction. Full of Hate, Despising Everything, Good For Nothing.

Liberals They are Not Like Us, They are a Different Species, Dangerous, Evil, Without Compassion, Deceitful, Liars, Corruptors of Good, Everything They Touch is Soon Ruined. Serpent Seed.

Unable to Change, Unwilling to Be Transformed. Unable to Co-Exist.

Leaving Our Survival as a Nation, Country, Culture, Neighborhood, and family, One Choice, Their Eradication.

They Have Infiltrated Your Schools, Your Government, Your Churches, Your Institutions.

They Have Soiled Your Children, Stolen Their Innocence, Robbed Them of A Glorious Past, and Left Them Without a Future Filled With Hope.

Vote Yes...It's them or us..

Orin L. Moses #fundie atheist-stooges.com

(From "Letter of refutation to an atheist")

What about the co-existence footprints in the riverbed in the Paluxy River near Glen Rose Texas? Man and dinosaur together? How can that be? It doesn’t fit into our theory of evolution! Even more footprints in the Paluxy riverbed - giants in the land! Gee, genesis talks about this, but we don’t believe it so we will close our eyes and hope it goes away.

Dave Hawkins #fundie talkrational.org

After using to a Lego set as evidence for Young Earth Creationism, our fundy (Dave Hawkins) had this exchange:

Posted by (sane person) SteveF: You've got to be fucking kidding.

Posted by Dave Hawkins: No, Steve. Not kidding. Dinos/Humans. Did they co-exist? What are we teaching our young children? You need to drink a cup of strong coffee if you think this is not appropriate for the E&O forum.

Posted by SteveF: You crack me up Dave.

Posted by Dave Hawkins: Good. Keep laughing and I'm going to quietly re-educate your kids.

alice #fundie twitter.com

straight men hate anything with strong feminine energy. the patriarchy pits logic and emotions against each other as if they can’t co-exist. astrology is dominated by lgbt+, ppl who identify as women/enby and POC. feminine energy & interests are always ridiculed.

Lupe Fiasco #racist everydayantisemitism.com

Rapped Lupe Fiasco has apparently decided to quit music after having released an antisemitic track.

The Chicago-born rapper, 34, released a track on his Soundcloud earlier this week, which included the line “Artists gettin’ robbed for their publishing / By dirty Jewish execs who think that it’s alms from the covenant”.

The idea that Jews are obsessed with money and exercise undue influence over various areas of business is an inherently antisemitic one, yet is an idea which is very common.

However, media coverage has tended to focus on the first line about “dirty Jewish execs”, whilst ignoring the accusation that such behaviour is “alms from the covenant”. The idea that Jews are led to extract money from others due to a perceived sense of religious superiority is clearly antisemitic, and is in fact a common theme found in the antisemitism of white nationalists. Here two antisemitic stereotypes co-exist; the idea of Jews as baseless cosmopolitans, influencing, dominating and exploiting the world of business; and the idea of Jews as backwards religious traditionalists, who allow everything to be directed by religious precepts, many of which are painted as supremacist in nature.

He faced a backlash from fans after releasing the freestyle track, and fired back against accusations of antisemitism in a series of tweets, saying “I’ve walked inside the ovens of Auschwitz” and “I’ve studied the Hebrew bible”. However, clearly studying the Bible and visiting Auschwitz does not exclude one from being antisemitic, particularly when one makes blatantly antisemitic comments such as these without apology.

Instead of apologising for his comments, he instead claimed he was “getting beat up for telling the truth”.

He went on to say that he would not release any more music.

Darkness is Falling #fundie #conspiracy #wingnut darknessisfalling.com

The "NEW AGE" is just the return of the Babylonian Roman "DARK AGE" orchestrated by the Jesuit Military Order Of Rome! Make no mistake about it! There is NOTHING "New" about it! All its teachings are occult and originate in ancient Babylon. Pantheistic belief is at the core of these demon originated doctrines which teach the "deification" of man.

For nearly 1000 years Rome held absolute temporal and spiritual power over humanity. Men lived in fear and were slaves to the Papal world dictator ANTI-CHRIST! The Jesuits are deceiving the world again with the false promise of "freedom" through "oneness" both politically and spiritually.

​The mantra pushed today by agents of Rome is "CO-EXIST" and ECUMENISM! Unity and a false "Golden Age" are being promised but it is simply slavery in a different form; a return to the tyranny of Nimrod's ancient autocratic kingdom of BA-BEL ruled by the final Papal antichrist!

Reader BEWARE!

Learn about the Jesuit's Neo Pagan, New Age agenda, (UN Agenda 30) which was birthed in the 19th century occult revival through Theosophy. The core beliefs enshrined in the New Age movement are the idea of an "enlightened" teacher or guru which is to appear and lead humanity into a "Golden Age" of man. Man is to be deified and realize all the hopes of humanity for "peace" "love" and "unity" of a brotherhood of man "without" God! This system will be very short lived because Jesus Christ will return and destroy the anti-christ and bring his evil empire to an end!

Divine Message Received From Lord Jesus Christ Through Susan Davis #fundie rapturewatcher.wordpress.com

Vital Message From The LORD Jesus Christ:
“I cannot tolerate a world that is not interested in hearing about MY sacrifice on the cross.”
Words Received from Our LORD Jesus Christ By Susan Davis.

Children, it is I, your GOD from heaven above. I want to give you news about MY COMING. So few are paying attention in this daunting hour—there is only a remnant paying attention. This has been foretold in MY Book that very few would be watching for ME when I come: when I come for MY bride, MY church.

Very few will be ready…very few will be watching…very few will be looking for ME with eager anticipation. Very few will have their EYES FIXED ON ME. Very few want to follow their GOD: in MY Perfect Will. Very few want to read MY Book by the Power of MY HOLY SPIRIT. Very few want a FULL OIL LAMP. Very few want to give all those around them FORGIVENESS that goes forth from their heart. Very few are REPENTANT before MY Holy Face. Very few are truly REMORSEFUL over their sin. Very few want to SEEK the HOLY SPIRIT for handling the sins of the flesh. Many want to handle their sins in their own flesh apart from the guidance of MY HOLY SPIRIT. It is only by the GUIDANCE and POWER of MY HOLY SPIRIT that anyone can conquer their flesh.

I, GOD, cannot stand how the church clings to the world. The world is an enmity to ME. I will not come back for you if you cling to both, ME and the world. The two cannot mix. The two cannot co-exist although this is the move of the world.

MY Message is an enmity to the world. I cannot tolerate a world that is not interested in hearing about MY SACRIFICE on the CROSS. I AM intolerant of those who deny MY GIFT, MY BLOOD SHED for all mankind. They can look the other way, to other paths that they think will lead to GOD, but there is only ONE path and it is by MY CROSS, MY BLOOD, MY SACRIFICE, MY DEATH, MY RESURRECTION, and MY SPIRIT in all HIS FULLNESS. Surrender to ME, lay your life down before ME, empty yourself. I want ALL of you: only by giving ME ALL of you will this transaction be made complete and then I will fill you with MY HOLY SPIRIT and you will receive the POWER from GOD on high to live out your life in MY PERFECT WILL for it. There is no other way, there are no other answers. This is what I require and those who think different will be left behind to face the worst: to face MY enemy, face the Antichrist, to face MY wrath. Only you can make this choice for yourself, it is yours to make.
This is your GOD, Loving in ALL MY Ways…

Alouicious Jackson #conspiracy #crackpot #racist #pratt renegadetribune.com

As more people are now learning, there was a cataclysm in our solar system about 12,000 years ago. The Great Cataclysm affected the outer planets first. The mythological stories of Mars, Venus, etc. were actually descriptions of these planets being struck by extraterrestrial objects. Mars was nearly split in half. Venus was tilted off its axis. An entire planet was destroyed, resulting in the Asteroid Belt of today.

The Earth, prior to that, was a very different place: It was 1/3 smaller (the continents fit together on ALL sides); oxygen content was over 30%; the gravity was lower; the magnetic field was stronger; there was a water veil in the atmosphere; there was no axial tilt, and therefore no seasons. What was it like? A greenhouse, with spring all year round. The light was diffused, and the sun’s solar radiation greatly blocked. The result? Everything grew bigger, healthier, and lived longer.

The ancient people saw what was coming and preserved what they could. ‘Noah’s ark’ was described in the Sumerian texts as a submarine. They took some live animals, but mostly preserved genetic samples from as many species as possible. After the Great Cataclysm, most animal life had been wiped out. To re-create diversity, the survivors began combining DNA.

Chickens and turkeys are genetically modified versions of small dinosaurs. The teeth and wing-apex claws have been genetically ‘turned off’. The claws actually form in the egg but disappear before hatching. Also, look at the platypus! A combination of a duck, beaver, and snake. The list goes on and on.

Yes, the missing link was a test tube – the myth of things evolving millions of years ago is ridiculous. Consider the dating of fossils. The organic matter was long ago replaced by minerals. Yet they date the mineral elements, which are as old as the Earth itself, and claim that they are dating the previous organic matter! All the fossils and strata were created only 12,000 years ago in the Great Cataclysm and resulting flood, through the process of liquefaction. This is the only condition which can create a fossil.

Modern archaeological finds have completely refuted the Jewish scientific dogma. Examples: ‘multi-strata fossils’- petrified trees, standing up through layers of strata supposedly deposited millions of years apart. Dinosaur bones found with intact proteins and pliable soft tissues. River beds in Texas, with dinosaur and human footprints, as well as trilobites. In one, the human had squished a trilobite. These three species were supposedly separated by tens of millions of years! No, they co-existed. Mythological stories of dragons can now be viewed in n new light.

This is all pretty interesting, right? But it gets better. Who originally inhabited the Earth? Ancient Aryans.

Rh- blood represents the original blonde-haired, blue eyed Aryan race which possessed advanced technology and whose empire once controlled the Earth – surviving today in such peoples as the Basques. Their remnants who survived the Great Cataclysm spread out, becoming the ruling class in most areas of the world.

Rh+ means that animal DNA has been added to the original human genome by way of genetic manipulation. This occurred multiple times in antiquity. The true nature of the Sumerian stories of the creation of man, as told by Sitchin, were skewed in their interpretation. Yes, the ‘gods’ combined their DNA with primates in Africa, creating slave races to mine gold around 100,000 years ago. But this did not create man. IT CREATED THE VARIOUS LINEAGES OF BLACK AFRICANS! All dark races were a result of this type of experimentation.

The world controllers drop lots of hints in sci-fi. For example, take the early 2000’s Battlestar Galactica. They had created a (machine) slave race which rebelled and destroyed them. The recurrent motto was “all of this has happened before, and it will happen again”. At the end of the series, the characters had survived the cataclysmic war and landed on a primitive planet. The very last scene skipped forward 120,000 years, and technology had once again reached an advanced state. The implication was, that the whole cycle would repeat.

So everyone thinks AI will emerge, gain independence, and destroy us. Maybe it will. But as I said, the creation of the brown slave races by genetic manipulation, who then rebelled, are now destroying us. It HAS happened before!

Gary Cass #fundie defendchristians.org

I confess, I'm “Islamaphobic,” but for very good reasons.

My fear is not an irrational fear based on uniformed prejudice; rather it’s an historic, clear eyed, informed, rational fear. ISSA is doing to America journalists what every true follower of Mohammed wants to do to you and yours; subjugate or murder you. They believe they have been given a mandate by Allah (Satan) to dominate the world.

Fourteen years of history, both ancient and modern (i.e. the 1 to 1.5 million dead Armenians at the hands of the Muslim Turks in 1915) tell us that Muslims are deadly serious about their infernal goals. Now we get to watch their violent, demonic fanaticism on Youtube videos.

History shows where Muslims get the power and means to subjugate and behead Christians, Jews, et al, they do it. Why? It's really very simple: its what Mohammed did and taught. So I have what I believe is a very rational fear for what our children and their children will face. Do you?

Are there any solutions? All the seminars, petitions, books, laws, articles and other similar actions are worthless. Muslims laugh at us for how stupid we are when it comes to dealing with them.

Here’s three possible solutions, but really there’s only one.

1.) Conversion: Wouldn't it be wonderful to see Muslims turn from Satan (Allah) to Christ? But, I agree with Phil Robertson, this is not biblically doable. Why? God has a plan and he revealed it at the birth of Ishmael, the father of the Arabs. "The Angel of the Lord said....He [Ishmael] will be an ass of a man; His hand shall be against every man, and every man's hand against him..." (Genesis 16:11,12) The Arab Muslims are God's sworn enemies and are ordained by God to be against everyone. That’s not to say there will not be a small percentage of Muslims who will be saved by faith in Christ. But, even if they escape with their lives after “apostatizing” from Islam, their influence will be negligible. History does not record a mighty move of God in saving masses of Muslims. I believe the scriptures militate against mass Muslim conversions.

2.) D.A.M.N.: Depart All Muslims Now. Deport them like Spain was forced to do when they deported the Muslim Moors. Muslims in America are procreating at twice the rate of other groups. So, either we force them all to get sterilized, or we wait for the “Army of Islam” to arise in our midst and do what Muslims always do, resort to violence. Just see what they are doing in France, Britain and Scandinavia. Fat chance our politicians will do anything until its too late, unless, of course, "We the People" demand otherwise. But, history shows America is always late to the fight. Or, we can do what most Americans are doing, wishfully think we are the exception and Muslims will all of a sudden change and want to co-exist. This is irrational and stupid, but it makes life more tolerable. Knowing that every Mosque in America is conspiring to kill you and yours is terrifying.

3.) Violence: The only thing that is biblical and that 1400 years of history has shown to work is overwhelming Christian just war and overwhelming self defense. Christian Generals Charles Martel in 732 and Jon Sobieski in 1672 defeated Islamic Turks and their attempts to take the West. Who will God raise up to save us this time? Will God even intervene or turn us over to the Muslims for turning against Him?

Either way, we must be prepared for the increase of terror at home and abroad. This is not irrational, but the loving thing we must do for our children and neighbors. First trust in God, then obtain a gun(s), learn to shoot, teach your kids the Christian doctrines of just war and self defense, create small cells of family and friends that you can rely on if some thing catastrophic happens and civil society suddenly melts down.

ISSI has done us all a favor. The true face of Islam is on full display even as Mohammed is burning in hell. We will have to face the harsh truth that Islam has no place in civilized society. Muslims cannot live in a society based on Christian ideals of equality and liberty. They will always seek to harm us.

Now the only question is how many more dead bodies will have to pile up at home and abroad before we crush the vicious seed of Ishmael in Jesus name? The Good News is Jesus, and his indestructible Church, will prevail, but there will be pain and heartache along the way to victory. May we be willing to take the lesser pains now so our children won’t have to take greater pains later.

H.U.Rudel #racist stormfront.org

Wouldn't label the ethnic Russians in Donetzk fighting against the jewish private army of Kolomoisky/Poroshenko "communists".
Indeed it is very sad that Ukrainians fight for a jewish junta, which will turn Ukraine into a prohomo multicultural hellhole and make all Ukraininan debt slaves to the international finance jews. They are told they fight for Ukraine by the ususal suspects
Well some -intelligent ones- have already switched sides, but not because they are "communists".

The seperatists are much more freedom fighters. Also economical aspects have a profound effect, since net income in the Donetzk area is manifold compared to Western Ukraine. If annexed by the Kiev junta, income would most probably collapse.

Hopefully most Ukrainian soldiers will turn their weapons against the kike Kiev junta eventually and thereafter find a peaceful co-existence with their Russian white brothers again.

s8intly #fundie christianforums.com

Do ancient unexplained artifacts and high technology potentially provide evidence of pre-flood civilizations?.. Is there evidence that dinosaurs did co-exist with men in agreement with the Bible and in opposition to the theory of evolution? Do Giant versions of some of today's plant, insects, animals and 'Mega' Men prove a stumbling block for evolutionary theories?.. Is there an unmistakable Message (from God) in the cells of every living thing? YES!

Kamala R. #fundie temple-stories.blogspot.com

[From a website about famous tourism temples in India; the author of an article about a temple leaves their description of the temple and adds a note on their feelings about science]

Nagenahalli in Chennagiri taluk in Davanegare dist. in Karnataka is a snake sanctuary. Nagenahalli literally translates to cobras’ village. Snakes are seen everywhere. People and snake co-exists here. If bitten by any poisonous snakes and left unattended will results in death! However, this village stands as an exception. In this village, when bitten by a poisonous snake one doesn’t die. The poison doesn’t WORK. The village itself stands as a challenge to the science fraternity.

David J. Stewart #fundie jesusisprecious.org

The only reason why the compromised Boy Scouts voted to allow churches to ban queer Scout Leaders is because most of the churches would have rightfully kicked the Boy Scouts out of their church! Tragically (and any spiritually discerning pastor fully realizes this), this is just a foot in the door for homosexuals in the Boy Scouts. Eventually, when the country has sunk even lower into sodomy and filth, they'll allow gays everywhere! The only BOY SCOUTS ladies and gentleman are the pederasts scouting for your sons to sodomize!!! PLEASE BAN THE BOY SCOUTS!!! They are a wicked organization that cater to agendas and have no fear of God. THEY HAVE NO TESTICLES!!! Is that what you want your sons to become... Cowardly yellow chickens like the Boy Scout organization???!!!

Do you know what really creeped me out this week. I knew that singer Barry Manilow was a lifelong atheist. I learned not too long ago that he's also been a homosexual since his youth. I had heard that he married his longtime friend and manager, another man! But what creeped me out was learning that Barry Manilow is the female in their same-sex union! There's pictures online of Barry dressed in drag. It's sick. Perhaps you didn't know this, but one homosexual always assumes the role of the male and the other the female. One takes a dominant role, and the other submissive. This is true of lesbians and sodomites! In the case of two lesbians, one will assume the masculine male role, which is what Rachel Maddow is—a dyke! This is why it is sometimes difficult to tell if someone is a homosexual, because a man who assumes the male role in the same-sex union will still appear manly, like Rock Hutson, George H. Bush and Ronald Reagan. The Bible teaches that homosexuals and the righteous will never co-exist in harmony. Proverbs 29:27, “An unjust man is an abomination to the just: and he that is upright in the way is abomination to the wicked.”

The liberals, queers and kooks condemn us fundamental Christians as “hate-mongers” for agreeing with God that homosexuality is a sin, abnormal and vile (Romans 1:24-32). I'm not condemning anyone, the Holy Bible condemn all of us as woeful sinners (Romans 3:23)!!! I'm upset and angry that homosexuals are forcing their sick perversion on America's children!!! GAY IS NOT OK! The King James Bible, which is the inspired Word of God, condemns and forbids the sin of homosexuality. Taylor Swift is doing her part to help the queer agenda, defiant against a holy God!!! We are hated here on earth by the wicked, but beloved of our heavenly Father, Oh Christians! Jesus is coming soon!

Texe Marrs #fundie powerofprophecy.com

Can Devils Inhabit Material Objects?

The unwitting and unlearned in these things may imagine that an idol fabricated to represent the real Satan (aka the Devil) is just another inanimate object, even if it is an ugly and repulsive object. But the human imagination is often deceived. The devil and his demon cohorts have the power to literally enter and possess an unregenerated, that is, unsaved, person's brain and mind. From that point on, the devil (or, demon) is a type of "walk-in," possessing and directing the physical human entity.

Foreign spiritual entities are also able to supernaturally co-exist within many other material items, ranging from satanic paintings to voodoo dolls, witchcraft trinkets, charms, and talismans, and including ungodly designed furnishings and décor and malevolently wicked, symbolic jewelry and clothing.

Just as an invisible cyberforce (artificial intelligence) animates and operates advanced robots and other computerized electromechanical gadgets and machines, invisible spiritual entities likewise are able to inhabit, activate, and energize (e.g. "possess") organic materials. Advanced technology is, therefore, often indistinguishable from psychic and spiritual phenomena.

I have heard of voodoo dolls, occult books and figurines, and other satanic artifacts (including album covers of satanic, heavy metal, rock 'n' roll music groups) literally screaming and crying out when thrown into the fires. No wonder, then, that the early Christian Church gathered up pagan and witchcraft books and materials (curious arts) and cast them into the burning flames.

Amitakh Stanford #conspiracy bibliotecapleyades.net

Aliens Behind World Government

The plan for the New World Order did not originate on Earth — it is a system devised by aliens.

The concept of the New World Order is based upon an old Anunnaki system which has been employed in other galaxies a long, long time ago. This system is now being pushed for implementation on Earth by the Anunnaki Remnants who remain on Earth. The Anunnaki Remnants are the ones that were left behind on Earth by the Anunnaki Elite when they escaped this world.

The New World Order is based upon the premise that there is to be a supreme commander who oversees the affairs of the world. During transition into a global government smaller and weaker nations are being forced or lured into accepting self-appointed stronger nations to act as their police force.

Later, the police force will expand and become an international police force under a single master. At first, this will appear to be a plan for a peaceful co-existence amongst nations which will benefit all nations. However, it is a plan to eliminate all nation states, freedom, civil rights and to control the people of the world under a single ideology in the name of one global community.

The New World Order is a One World Order with a hidden agenda to rule by fear, control, exploitation and bullying. The ruling elite of the world’s wealthy, powerful and influential have been pushing for a New World Order with a One World Government under the pretence of establishing world peace while they are in fact imposing their will upon every nation. They call themselves the "peacemakers" but in truth they are an international police force which organized "war crimes" tribunals, supposedly to give the "political criminals" a fair trial before persecuting them.

The vast majority of the ruling elite of the world are either descendants of Anunnaki Remnants or their supporters. A trait of the Anunnaki is to rule by instigating people to remain in a state of perpetual conflict. Peace is not even a consideration of the Anunnaki, who are a warmongering, bloodthirsty, lustful, perverted, deceptive, brutal race of beings who have controlled the Earth for a long time.

At present, the fragmentation, conflict, hate, jealousy, suspicion, mistrust, intolerance, biasness amongst nations, cultures and those of diverse religions etc. appear to be obstacles to the realization of One World Order. However, each of those traits was introduced by the Anunnaki as part of their plan to rule by segregation and division.

The rule by fragmentation was only a transitional phase in a very long-range plan to bring about a One World Government by claiming that such a government can bring about world peace. In fact, the One World Government is a tool for the establishment of an absolute dictatorship over the entire world — a tyranny. Once the plan is in its final stages, it will be forced upon everyone. The people of the world will have no choice but to toe the line and follow the dictates of the One World Order or face severe consequences.

For a New World Order where diverse nations are drawn together under supposedly one common cause, humanity becomes enslaved to its One World Order sovereignty. The New World Order will not happen overnight. The idea was seeded a long, long time ago, and slowly but certainly it is weaving its way unsuspectedly through the monetary, political, religious, cultural, educational, scientific etc. systems. It started to gain momentum in the last 10 years.

The speed of its emergence has taken a quickened stride in the last three years, with one planned event after another taking place in various parts of the world in order to test and exercise the power of the would-be New World Order under the leadership of self-proclaimed, "high" moral standing personnel with the backing of a powerful dictatorial government.

At present, while the current push for a New World Order appears to be under the control of an elite group of Anunnaki Remnants which I call the "Vulturites", the real control is under the more cunning group of Anunnaki Remnants, which have been called the "Reptilians". These two groups of Anunnaki Remnants are in perpetual conflict with one another. However, for the time being, the Reptilians are purposely backing off to trick the Vulturites into doing the dirty job of setting up the New World Order before taking it over from them when they feel the time is right.

As I have stated a long time ago, most of the consciousnesses of the Reptilian Anunnaki Remnants who were previously residing in human bodies predominantly in the United States and some parts of Europe have now shifted their locations to China. Consciousnesses of the Vulturite Anunnaki Remnants have now taken over most of those bodies previously occupied by the Reptilian Anunnaki Remnants.

Live4Jesus #fundie christianforums.com

The problem with the 'all imagination' theory is that, just like little boys who watch lots of cowboy movies will mimmick the behavior or imagine growing up to be cowboys, or scientists, or fireman, depending on the stories they are told as children, the same holds true for the Harry Potter stuff. Thus for a Christian to allow this type of influence on their kids is like allowing them to watch fantasy movies about drug trips, even I will say pornography or the like, and then perhaps one day having to rein the kid in hard because he doesn't understand it's not OK. Probably you'll say Hoof! Comparing Harry Potter to pornography, well I am just trying to get your attention in a realistic way. If you bring kiddie porn into your home and then your kid becomes the neighborhood **** at age 9 wouldn't it be your fault? With Harry Potter, you'll have to break him of the evil fantasy first if you ever expect him to accept Jesus as well, because the 2 cannot happily co-exist.

Cindy Murdoch #fundie examiner.com

To this end, is it not possible that God created the Earth with all the fossils in place making it appear as if the Earth had been here for much longer that the 6000 years that the Bible documents. God could have even created fossil records that would lead some to believe that man had indeed descended from apes. In fact, on August 8, 2012, a new article was published entitled, ‘New human species identified from Kenya fossils’ that spoke about fossil records in Africa indicating that at least three distinct species of humans co-existed in Africa at the same time, two million years ago.

God could have created an earth that appeared aged to not only challenge our minds, but also to test our faith. The Bible documents many times where man’s faith is challenged by even greater things than a theory such as this. This is only one theory, but it is as possible as the Earth being millions of years old and the dinosaurs being wiped out by an asteroid strike, or any other number of theories you can read about.

Steven L Anderson #fundie sanderson1611.blogspot.com

"Jesus-is-Savior.com" Attacks our Film "After the Tribulation"

There is an article on the website www.jesus-is-savior.com attacking our film After the Tribulation, which came out last December and has been viewed online over 1.3 million times so far (if you add up the view counts of the several versions uploaded to YouTube). Here are a few excerpts from the article:

["In the film, Dr. Kent Hovind denounces the Pre-Tribulation Rapture. Kent Hovind is wrong about a Young Earth and he's wrong about the Rapture. The Bible teaches an Old Earth. Dinosaurs never co-existed amongst mankind."]

This should tell you everything you need to know about David Stewart, the man behind the website jesus-is-savior.com. He believes that the earth is billions of years old! Instead of the Bible being his final authority, he twists the words of the Bible to make them match up with the "science falsely so-called" of our day.

??? ?????? #fundie ummah.com

i have multiple sets of nephews and nieces and the ones who are allowed to mix with kuffar are turning out like them.

i will give you my opinion which i gave them too. its up to you guys to take it or leave it but i will definitely implement this on my kids

Use the same rule for kids as we do for adults, they can talk nicely to kuffar in class when they need to co-exist but they should never be allowed to take them as close friends (going over to each others house).

you are the average of the people you associate with. hanging around with kuffar will make them de-sensitized to kufr and sinns.

the next step is that they start to commit these sins themselves. wallahi, i have witnessed this happen. so take this advice very seriously.

carolac #fundie city-data.com

How I wish it was just a matter of treating people equally, beautiful songs by the Gay Men's Choir and beautiful lights. People will not be able to co-exist, unfortunately. Gay activists will make sure of that.

For example, take a look at how Massachusetts went after making gay marriage legal. I'll give you just two of the many, many, many changes:

#1 - A book called "Little Black Book" was handed out to teen boys in high schools without their parents knowledge. It taught them how to have sex with a man and listed local bars in town where they could go to have sex with men, not to mention cautions about the inherent diseases. I won't mention here about the materials the elementary school children received that went beyond accepting the gay lifestyle. Parents who objected, wanted to opt their children out were arrested, their lawsuits failed. Romney's administration distanced themselves as far away from it as they could.

#2 - The Massachusetts state budget now includes a large line item expenditure for gay domestic partner violence because it is so rampant. It seems some partners who have bisexual tendencies or are suspected of bisexual tendencies are getting violently abused.

Parents, teach your children. They are going to be targeted. It's no longer about "treating people equally," as my friend Ceist is suggesting. Some gays do not even know the extent.

Nutrider99 #fundie freeconservatives.com

Definition of a "Theistic Evolutionist:"
1. One who believes in God but not in His word.
2. One who doesn't believe anything God said but believes He must exist because there is no possible way the universe could invent itself.
3. One who doesn't understand evolution or God, but who wants to go to Heaven without wasting his time reading the Bible.
4. One who believes in the goodness of God but couldn't recognize evil if he were drowning in it.
5. A self deluded person who believes truth and lies can co-exist.
6. A warm weather Christian who buckles under when others lie about creation, thinking that if those who are smarter than he believe it it must be true.
7. An agnostic who pretends to be a religious to impress his neighbors.

The only way to believe in both the Word of God and evolution is to have a firm understanding of neither.

WorldGoneCrazy #fundie disqus.com

"But Crazy, Dawkins, Provine and Ruse didn't SAY that there could be no moral values without God. "

You WISH they weren't saying what they are saying. and, thus far, you have provided no counterargument - just wishful thinking. And, it is delusional, because on atheism, the universe is just headed for a slow cold dark death, and nothing you do will matter in any ultimate moral sense.

'"you have NEVER - not even once - said why God is necessary."

Sure I did: without an Objective Moral Standard there can be no objective moral values or duties. It is quite simple, for those willing to listen.

"because God cannot be proven"

What?!? I have given you lots of arguments in favor of the God Hypothesis and you have given me no arguments, other than wanting to be your own "god" that He doesn't exist. In fact, merely the fact that you are spending so much time debating me on this subject is proof of God's existence: you are behaving as if your life has an objective purpose but such does not exist on atheism. (See slow cold dark death of universe.) You are actually denying your atheism, pretending that your life has an objective meaning - by evangelizing theists. :-)

"If I give you evidence and you don't believe it, it doesn't mean I haven't given you evidence. I have objective values and I have no God."

Merely saying that you have objective values is not proof that they exist, any more than my saying I have a billion dollars is proof that it exists in my bank account.

"Isn't that really your problem - you are so intent on telling me what I believe rather than actually listening to me that you can't handle the truth?"

I don't actually care what you believe. I care what is objectively true. What you believe is a measure of your feelings and psychological state - I am not interested in that - I am a theist, in search of truth, not feelings. That is a huge difference from my life as an atheist, I might add.

"Because we are human beings with c onsciences, empathy, a sense of belonging, a sense of place, a sense of purpose, a sense of how to co-exist with our fellow human beings, a sense of what works best for us all to live together harmoniously."

None of those things are objective, - they are ice cream flavors that vary across individuals. Some like Hitler, others like Ghandi. A sense of purpose is not any objective purpose - it is just a grand delusion, on atheism. How can anything objectively matter when there will be no one around to remember it or you for that matter?

"What a waste of a g ift this life is under that way of thinking."

Life IS a waste on atheism. It is a big accident which has no ultimate meaning. It is absurd. Look at the universe around you: if that is all there is, then it is a huge waste. And you are a speck of a dot of waste, on atheism. Why are you pretending your life means anything, other than whatever you want to make up out of thin air - to satisfy a fairy tale of yours?

"We are not insects. Next."

Nice try, but take it up with Darwin. He realized full well that we could be insects in a subjective moral sense if evolution had taken a different turn, and, BTW, aren't insects our cousins or something?!? :-) You have not answered the question as to why Darwinian evolution is not just one giant craps table, and due to that, there are no objective moral values and duties? Darwin understood.

"We are not other animals, either. Our brains don't work the same way."

That is twice it sounds as though you are distancing yourself from macro-evolution, do I have that right? I thought we were just animals evolved to a different species, no better or worse? It almost sounds like you are saying, twice, that human beings are supernaturally different from insects and lions, not merely physically different? Speaking of lions (scroll down for more good images):

http://www .powerlineblog .com/archives/2015/08/zebra-lives-matter.php

"I don't think it's intellectually honest of you to tell people who are living perfectly happy lives under s ecular humanism that they are miserable failures."

I never said that. I said that you are deluding yourself into thinking your life has objective moral value and purpose and meaning. (And, for some strange reason, 97% of atheists do not give the same consideration to the human in the womb.)

I know drunks and drug addicts who thought they were living perfectly happy lives too. They are as deluded as atheists. :-)

"All right, under the condition that you ditch the annoying smilies."

OK, but you didn't warn me before this, so that is why I have annoying smilies above. (Uuugh! I SO want to put an annoying smiley here!)

"Premise 1: You, the fundamentalist Christian, require a God in order to claim moral objectivity. Premise 2: The moral objectivity you claim is actually moral SUBJECTIVITY as laid out specifically by your God in your Bible. Premise 3: God's subjective commands can involve killing, torture, murder, and other unsavory and amoral things. Conclusion: You are amoral, subscribing to the whims of a cruel and jealous God."

It would be nice to have these in IF-Then form, but OK, I will consider this as a step-wise proof. I would probably reword Premise 1, but I will allow it.

Premise 2 is invalid. Even if you think that the Bible is a rule book (hint: it's not), then you would need to show that. How is it that God's Rule Book could pos sibly be subjective, since He is the Objective Moral Standard? Even if you believe that He is cruel and mean and all, how can that be subjective? What Higher Standard are you appealing to? Not God. Perhaps (yourself)?!?

Premise 3 is also invalid, since it includes "subjective" and it smuggles in you placing your objective moral values and duties above God's, which by the definition of "God" cannot be true. Same for the conclusion and, BTW, there are no rules of logic that would apply, even if Premises 1-3 were true, that would lead to the Conclusion. If I am wrong, please state the propositional logic rule that applies.

"I get morals from my family, my upbringing, and my developed sense of empathy."

Yes, but those are not objective. Hitler got his morals that way too, as did Stalin. Hitler had tremendous empathy for the Aryan race.

"Dawkins, Provine, Ruse and anyone else you'd care to name puts value on the loved ones in their lives."

Oh sure, but they are stealing from theism to do so. They are denying their atheism and pretending that their lives, and those of their loved ones, have objective moral value, purpose, and meaning. This is why atheism is totally unlivable. For the atheist to spend this much time debating a theist, he MUST believe that there is something objective about that purpose. But, on the slow cold dark death of the universe, such objectivity means nothing of course.

Public Vigil #conspiracy publicvigil.blogspot.com

bergoglio's imagi~c~nation

We all imagine that things are real that are not...

They are real in the imagination... these are imaginary things... but they are not real in the real world... in reality...

Take a straight-forward example like "gender theory"... this is obviously false... but may demonically possessed people -- and we all have our demons -- would like this ridiculous "theory" to be true...

So they imagine it is true... that it is real... but it's not... but still they act as if it was real... and they start to build this imaginary world around this false idea (a false religion devoted to worshipping a false pagan god)...

... and then what do they do...

And then they begin to transfer this imaginary model of this false ideology into a real cult... they transfer there plans from their imagination to the real world...

The only problem is that the real world is not like their imaginary world...

the real world is... real

their imaginary wolrd is... not

In their imaginary world if there is some part of the model that is messing up the model they can just rip it out... or modify it to their liking...

In the real world... they can't just rip out people... whole countries... economies... "natural resources" aka the rape of nature as an act of violation of God because God created nature and a natural order... an act of rebellion... a "revolutionary" act...

And in the real world there is also a real and natural order... which by the way cannot be changed... no matter how hard you try... it's called reality... vs. imagination... see the difference?

When your imaginary ideology cult bumps into the natural order... that's when the plan falls apart... or rather it is the lives of the victims of this super-religion that fall apart... isn't that what we are seeing happen all over the globe in one way or another?

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So how does bergoglio fit into all this...

bergoglio is part of the club... yes, it's a private club... and it's official membership is secret... but there are some powerful members of this secret club that are quite public in revealing their membership...

They don't do this by making a public statement saying, "i am a member of a secret society... "

They reveal that they are part of the club through symbolic acts... signals... clear unmistakeable signals... you would have to be blind deaf and dumb in order not to be able to see these signals and understand their meaning....

An example of such a signal... "who am i to judge?"... "don't breed like rabbits"... "don't obsess over abortion and marriage"...

So is bergoglio a freemason?

... whatever...

bergoglio is working to implement the plans of this super-religion... reality be damned... the open revolt against God...

Their super-religion is a magic cult... disguised by layers of magic pseudo-science...

They actually have come to believe their own lies... and they cannot see reality... the two cannot coincide... the two cannot "co-exist"... "side-by-side"... in a "cozy paradise"... a cozy hippy paradise... where everybody shares everything... everything... no private property... no wives... no husbands... no children... no families... the state is the super-family.. is the super-religion... is the super-cult... in this super-world of the near future... which, however, never materializes... only wars... famine.... natural disasters... widespread massive human suffering... and widespread destruction of the family... and widespread disbelief in the one trinitarian God -- Father, Son and Holy Spirit.
(Last post of this Guy's Pope Francis hate. The blog always had conspiracy element, but Pope Francis brought it all to the top.)

Nevanmaa #racist forum.nationstates.net

*Discussion on the late Nelson Mandela*

I can't say I'm sad at all. The man responsible for deaths of hundreds in dozens of terrorist attacks, including the Church Street bombings, deserves no pity from me. A man so violent that he refused to work towards co-existence peacefully, instead resorting to murdering innocent white men, women and children deserves nothing but a spit in the face. Not even Amnesty International recognized him as a political prisoner, and for a good reason.

Mandela and his ANC goons single-handedly destroyed South Africa, sending crime rates, inflation and white emigration through the roof, not to mention he's responsible for Afrikaner cultural holocaust and genocide and an institution of a de facto single party state. I don't see why anyone would consider his legacy even remotely good. Mandela was an evil, pathetic little man whose power fantasies led not only to deaths of hundreds of innocents, but an end to one of the most prosperous nations in Africa.

As Margaret Thatcher once said, "ANC is a terrorist organization and Mandela is a terrorist". It's ironic that history eventually showed how right she was.

middo #fundie christianforums.com

I haven't read the book of mormons but i do know some LSD's [sic] and i just dont understand how what they say to be true and correct can co-exist with what is said in the new testament, so through that i believe the holy bible to be correct and the book of mormons to not be.

truecristian9 #fundie imdb.com

[title: CAN MUSLIMS BE GOOD AMERICANS? (yes, all caps like that.)]

Theologically - no . . . Because his allegiance is to Allah, The moon God of Arabia.

Religiously - no. . . . Because no other religion is accepted by His Allah except Islam (Quran, 2:256) (Koran ).

Scripturally - no. . . . Because his allegiance is to the five Pillars of Islam and the Quran.

Geographically - no. . . . Because his allegiance is to Mecca , to which he turns in prayer five times a day.

Socially - no. .. . . Because his allegiance to Islam forbids him to make friends with Christians or Jews.

Politically - no. . . . Because he must submit to the mullahs (spiritual leaders), who teach annihilation of Israel and destruction of America, the great Satan.

Domestically - no. . . . Because he is instructed to marry four women and beat and scourge his wife when she disobeys him (Quran 4:34).

Intellectually - no. . . . Becaus e he cannot accept the American Constitution since it is based on Biblical principles, and he believes the Bible to be corrupt.

Philosophically - no. . . . Because Islam, Muhammad, and the Quran do not allow freedom of religion and expression. Democracy and Islam cannot co-exist. Every Muslim government is either dictatorial or autocratic.

Spiritually - no. . . . Because when we declare "one nation under God," the Christian's God is loving and kind, while Allah is NEVER referred to as Heavenly father, nor is he ever called love in The Quran's 99 excellent names.

Therefore after much study and deliberation, perhaps we should be very suspicious of ALL MUSLIMS in this country.

They obviously cannot be both "good" Muslims and good Americans.


* * * Call it what you wish; it's still the truth.

[(and for extra irony points, guess what truecristian9 responded with when someone pointed out that he was wrong on every single level?0]

go post your "religious" intolerant *beep* somewhere else

This Is The Painkiller #fundie answers.yahoo.com

Atheists: if humans and dinosaurs didn't co-exist, then who buried the dino fossils?

Deluded scientists say that dinosaurs came millions of years before humans did. But the Bible, a book of absolute and irrefutable facts and knowledge, says that humans and animals were created almost at the same time frame! Want proof? Who do you think buried the bones of those dinosaurs deep under the ground? Bones just don't bury themselves, duh. Someone had to bury them, and that was us humans! Checkmate! Superior Christian intellect trumps delusional atheist beliefs once again!

Wait, I might be wrong actually. God himself could have possibly buried the fossils himself to test our faith. But either way, your stupid scientific myth is still wrong! You can't deny truth in the face of our factual Biblical evidence! Ha!

JCCheapEntertainment #fundie reddit.com

This is a function of the genetic and cultural distances between the host and minority peoples. The smaller the distance(s), the greater the percentage of said minorities that can co-exist peacefully and prosperously with the dominant host population.
Take Chinese society for example. Officially the country has 56 recognized ethnicities, with the Han being the dominant one at ~90%, followed by 55 minorites of varying sizes. With the exception of a few miniscule ethnic groups such as the Russians, Tatars & Tajiks, the rest at least all still belong to the Mongoloid race; the Uyghurs, a quite large minority is an exception to this exception, and will be further explained below. Additionally many of the more populous ethnic minority groups have become so assimilated/integrated into the mainstream Han society that they don't even have a separate language in use, such as the Manchus, the Huis, etc. The Hui people, a predominantly Muslim ethnic group, also provide a good contrast to the Muslim Uyghurs, who are a Caucasoid and Mongoloid admixed population, mentioned earlier. The Huis are peaceful, and well integrated (though not fully assimilated, as they still keep their own customs), whereas the Uyghurs represent a constant terrorist and separatist threat; many go to join Islamic extremist groups in the Middle East to train, then return to China to further their agenda via violence. It's not a coincidence that the former is ~93% Han in their ancestry (the remaining coming from West Eurasian traders who have traveled the Silk Road throughout the centuries), and the latter is only ~50% East Asian in ancestry.

NephilimFree #fundie nephilimfreemedia.webs.com

Welcome

Hi welcome to my site. This site is designed to fight science ergo the devil. The only true way to the lord and riches of heaven is through creationism. Genesis clearly states that God created the world in 6 days! The evidence is there! If you don't believe that you're either and idiot or not a true Christian! In other words, science attempts to lead us away from God through the indoctrination of our children in schools and media through the belief in evolutionism which leads to atheism!

The facts that scientists have covered up:

The earth and universe are only 6,000 years old.
The earth is the center of the universe.
Noah's flood was a true event.
Humans and dinosaurs co-existed.
Man was CREATED by the image of God.
DNA disproves evolution.
UFO's are signs and visitations from Satan.

Why this site?
To defend Christianity against mockers of God! To expose and make known the above truths and above all to help people see the world-wide conspiracy of scientists in the effort to destroy the word of God through the theory of eviloution. If evilution is true, then that means there was no Adam & Eve. No Adam & Eve means no original sin. No original sin means we are not sinners! We ARE sinners, and God wants us to live in repentance so that we may know him.

Maya the Shaman #crackpot #magick #ufo #mammon lemurianshaman.com

ANCIENT PORTAL TO THE DIVINE COSMOLOGY
The Lost Continent Of Lemuria

Lemuria is the lost land, the first continent of the Pacific. She is the exotic paradise of the East, the intoxicating, mystical land of magic. She is the Lost Continent of the Pacific, what others may refer to as Mu. Lemuria and Mu are one and the same.
The first beings that lived in Lemuria were the Lemurians, the first extraterrestrial galactic star beings to step foot on our beautiful blue, Earth Mother. They are the beings of pure love and light, the ascended masters of this universe. They carry with them a unique, cosmic signature, and the same spiritual purpose and mission as that of our living Earth Mother.
The Lemurian beings are the Earth Keepers, the protectors of Earth Mother’s land. They are the original, indigenous brown-colored people, who walked and lived upon the face of our Earth Mother for eons of time. They are the intuitives, the mystics, the healers. The kind, the generous, the peaceful, and the loving. They are the Original Shamans. Vibrating at the highest frequency, the Lemurians control the forces of Mu, walking on water, standing on fire, transporting themselves through the air and ether at any place, and at any time. Capable of shifting the atomic structures in the environment, the Lemurians are the magical star beings who have no limit. They are the sincere devotees of the Divine and her creations.

The Lemurians built their spiritual kingdom on Earth Mother, one that was abundant in all its form. They sustained peace and harmony on all levels, and no one on their premise went hungry, or homeless. All were cared for, and all were provided with the necessities to live a peaceful and happy life, one that is perfect and in divine order.
From the light to the dark, to the predators (aliens) and the Atlanteans, all wanted the intoxicating, magnificent Land of Mu. In her greatest beauty, splendor and wealth, and all that she had within her, Lemuria was one that everyone envied. Everyone claimed to destroy her.
Though the hospitality of Mu was her greatest strength, it was her willingness to serve and help others that allowed no boundaries for beings to co-exist. She was taken advantage of, and her strength became her greatest weakness. Yes, I speak of her as the Land of Mu, and her as her people. This is how Mu, the motherland, was originally referred to. She was the feminine.

Mu and her people were exploited to the core, fed with endless war, famine, ignorance, and lies. After being attacked time and time again, her beauty was lost. The people of Mu lost their self confidence, lost their magic, and lost their once exalted place in the cosmic village of high social status. They were no longer seen as the light and wisdom of the peaceful nature in which they belonged. Lemuria was unrecognizable, and almost everything was replaced with crudeness and cruelty. The descendants of Mu were kept in silence and abruptly lacked their very own identity.
The magical part of Lemuria left the surface land, and built their kingdom deep in the Pacific Ocean, along with all of their knowledge, power and magic. She is now submerged underwater. The untrue history of Mu was then fed to everyone, and her history became a totalitarian dogma force-fed to all of us, most especially to the very own children of Mu.

My Great Ascended Master, Shrii Shrii Anandamurti, calls Maharlika (Philippines) The Land of the Great.
Maharlika is the heart and center of Mu. In viewing the map of Maharlika, you will find her landmass scattered across more than 7,000 islands, all in small, broken pieces. If you look close enough, you will see that she is a puzzle, trying to fit herself back into a whole. Beneath her is a hidden secret that connects us back to the astral and spiritual realm, the place of Lemuria.

wetwareproblem #fundie wetwareproblem.tumblr.com

I know this is going to make me sound heartless, but I do revel in the fact that the nasty, cisphobic trans people are often those who are totally paranoid to the point where they feel completely unsafe in the world. It cracks me up to think of you toxic pieces of shit suffering in an eternal hell caused by forces that you have little to no control over. It’s hilarious how many more people would want to fight for you if you weren’t so unpleasant.

At the same time, I would never wish it on you. If I did have some control, I’d have things change for you. Sure, I wouldn’t give you everything that you want… because that would be totally unreasonable. What I would give you is the equal rights you desire and I’d strip from you that crippling fear that burdens your life.

Violence is something I wouldn’t wish upon anyone who wasn’t a mortal enemy. I just think it’s fucked up how you’ve let it corrupt you. Because of this, I have no real choice but to laugh. Because you were bullied, you became a bully yourself. You’re dead inside.

To the trans people who are good, respectful people:
I salute you. We may have very little to nothing in common, but that doesn’t matter. What matters is that we have a general respect for each other and wish to co-exist in this cold, uncaring world.

I wish you all the luck in the world.


Mitch, the reason this makes you sound heartless is because it is heartless. Based on what I’m seeing here, you’re a pretty horrible person: You’re wishing horrendous suffering on people who say mean things. People who say mean things in reaction to vast amounts of systemic abuse, which you’re contributing to here.

You’re drawing an equivalence between you being insulted, and horrifying levels of violence, murder, and denial of basic medical care, among other things

I am not drawing an equivalence at all, that was never my intention. Also, I fail to see how I am contributing to systematic abuse in any way. Feel free to explain yourself.

The only reason I’m responding to you is because you actually reached out and made an effort, even if I think you essentially missed the entire point of everything I said.


you actually said “Because you were bullied, you became a bully yourself.” That’s painting a very false equivalence between silencing, employment and housing discrimination, violence, and murder on one hand, and mean words on the other. It’s pretending that trans people could ever “bully” cis people the way cis people have “bullied” trans people.

Whether or not that was your intent, that is what you did.

You’re contributing to systemic abuse by trying to silence us - by insisting that we’re only worthy of any sort of consideration as human beings if our response to the abuse is to smile and take it. This is directly enabling abusers, because it allows them to say “It can’t be that bad, nobody’s complaining.” Anger is not just a valid response to oppression, it’s the only one that gets things done. If you insist on taking that away from us, you empower the abusers and prevent us from ever getting any sort of justice.

Finally: I didn’t miss the point of what you said at all. It was just… a misguided, malformed argument. If you truly want to end trans people’s “hateful” response to their abuse, end the abuse. Blaming it on trans people is just counterproductive and shows us that you won’t stand with us no matter what we say. You’ll insist that we stand with you, even as you enable our abusers.

Karl Priest #fundie insectman.us

(Emphasis original)
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Telling the Truth (Or: “Karl, are you angry or hateful?”)

(Others have said it well by analogy:

If you were driving fast toward a washed out bridge just around a blind curve, would you want me to flag you down?

If you had terminal cancer and I knew of a cure, would you want me to share it with you?

I am keenly aware that, “This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.” I Tim. 1:15

The following are not my words, but the author says it exactly the way I feel. The article is condensed.)

Karl

What people often refer to as “love” is sinful compromise. God's love is unconditional, i.e., God doesn't love us for who we are, but because of Who He is. Amen! Likewise, I don't love people for who they are, but because of who God has made me in Christ Jesus. We like people for their good qualities, we love them for their faults.

The sin-loving world wants Christians to remain silent concerning sin. However, God has commanded each believer to expose all works of darkness. Ephesians 5:11, “And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.” If you love someone, you tell them the truth, especially if not telling them the truth will harm them. The unsaved often get upset when a “Bible-thumper” witnesses the Gospel to them, but it is only out of a heart of concern and love, that we WARN others of God's wrath's against unrepentant sinners and of coming judgment in the Lake of Fire. With all the suffering in this present world, it should not be difficult to grasp the reality of eternal punishment in the fires of Hell. The question is, do you believe that the Bible is God's Word? If you do, then you cannot deny the existence of eternal punishment for the wicked, i.e., the unsaved.

To proclaim the Word of God in today's apostate, sin-loving, Christ-rejecting, Bible-denying, American society requires “tough love.” Most people don't want to hear the truth, which is why so many so-called “Christian” ministers and authors rarely touch upon the topics of sin, God's wrath, judgment, hellfire or eternal punishment. There can be no salvation without the Law of God which shows men their guilt of sin. Yes, love induces kindness and compassion, but it also induces taking an uncompromising Biblical stand against sin and evil.

Jesus didn't use sweet words to show Peter the error in his thinking. Instead Jesus sharply rebuked Peter by saying, “Get thee behind me Satan” (Matthew 16:23). Jesus scathed the unsaved Pharisees with the harshest words of all, calling them “whited sepulchres ... full with dead men's bones” (Matthew 23:27). The Apostle Paul was not very gentle with Simon the sorcerer, when he told him, “Thy money perish with thee” (Acts 8:20). Simon had mistakenly thought he could buy God's power, as many lying televangelists would still have us believe today.

In 1st Corinthians 16:22 the Apostle Paul sternly warned, “If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema Maranatha.” Anathema meaning “cursed,” and Maranatha meaning “the Lord is coming.” Paul said, “LET HIM BE CURSED, THE LORD JESUS IS COMING!” Does this sound like the words of the greatest missionary who ever lived? Yes, it certainly is! Somehow people today have accepted the false idea that love never offends anyone. Nothing could be further from the truth! When you love someone, you tell them the truth for their own good. A loving friend will tell you the truth if it's something that you need to know.

We are taught in the Scriptures that light and darkness cannot co-exist. That is, the righteous and the wicked will never live in harmony . . .

"An unjust man is an abomination to the just: and he that is upright in the way is abomination to the wicked." —Proverbs 29:27

Mankind is inherently evil and destined to destruction. When Adam sinned, he opened the floodgate for sin to enter into the world. All the education, reformation and rehabilitation available cannot rid the world of lust, greed and hate. The truth is that we are sinners in need of salvation. Thankfully, Jesus Christ paid our sin debt, so that we could be redeemed back to God.

It is only because I love God and people that I proclaim the truth. I do not enjoy offending anyone, but I realize that the truth offends people.

I do in fact genuinely love people, no matter who they may be. If God can love a big sinner like me, then I can love anyone, even my enemies. Jesus died for all mankind. People often mistake a Christian's love for hate, and some professed believers do hate, sinfully so; but proclaiming the truth is the most noble and loving thing a person can do. A strict parent is often viewed as being “unfair” or a “tyrant” for making and enforcing rules with their teenager. The truth is that the parent loves that child and is trying to prepare them for life ahead. The child may feel that the parent hates them at the time, but it certainly is not any form of hatred. It is in fact genuine love.

Sometimes we might not tell someone the truth, if it will unnecessarily hurt them, because we love them and don't believe they need to know. At other times we may tell someone the truth, because we love them and they need to know. The latter is true concerning this website, i.e., my ministry.

I want to share with you the truth about many things, as I continue to learn and wake-up myself. This is love. My heart longs for you to know the truth and for your life to be changed for God. Have you been born-again?

What you do with the truth is your decision, I can only point you in the direction that I believe is correct. Liberty is the right to choose. Freedom is the result of making the right decisions. So many people are woefully ignorant concerning the truth (some sincerely, others by choice).

My desire is for others to receive Jesus as the Christ (i.e., Savior) and in so doing obtain the gift of eternal life. We are all GUILTY sinners, deserving of Hell for breaking God's holy Law. Thankfully, Jesus paid our sin debt. We are saved by HIS RIGHTEOUSNESS, i.e., the righteousness of Jesus Christ, and not by our own hypocritical self-righteousness. God will forgive anyone who acknowledges their guilt of sin and comes to God the Father by way of faith in the redeeming blood sacrifice of His Son, Jesus.

From: http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/please_give_me_your_heart.htm

See “What is Your Excuse for not Getting Saved?”.

See “The Love Gospel” at “The Common Thread (addendum)”.

For those who send me hate mail:

And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them. (Romans 1:28-32 KJB) And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment. (Hebrews 9:27 KJB)

I AM PART OF THE FELLOWSHIP OF THE UNASHAMED

By Dr. Bob Moorehead
I am part of the fellowship of the unashamed. The dye has been cast. The decision has been made. I have stepped over the line. I won't look back, let up, slow down or back away.

My past is redeemed, my present makes sense, my future is secure. I'm finished and done with selfish living, sight walking, small planning, "smooth knees," colorless dreams, tamed visions, mundane talking, cheap giving and dwarfed goals.

I no longer need pre-eminence, prosperity, position, promotions, plaudits, pity or popularity. I don't have to be right, first, tops, recognized, praised, regarded or rewarded. I live now by faith, lean on His presence, walk with His patience, live by prayer and labor with His power.

My face is set; my gait is sure; my goal is heaven; my road is narrow; my way is rough, my companions are few; my Guide is reliable; my mission is clear. I cannot be bought, compromised, detoured, lured away, turned back, deluded or delayed. I will not flinch in the face of sacrifice, hesitate in the presence of the adversary, negotiate at the table of the enemy, ponder at the pool of popularity or meander in the maze of mediocrity because I have been sustained by Christ.

I won't give up, shut up, let up, until I have stayed up, stored up, prayed up, paid up, spoken up for the cause of Christ. I am a disciple of Jesus Christ. I must go till all know, and work till He stops me. And when He comes for His own, He will have no problem recognizing me. My banner is clear.

David J. Stewart #racist jesus-is-savior.com

The ghetto-style music that is popular across America today is demonic. It is shameful what goes on in the slum-lord, section 8, crack-houses in ghettos and depraved housing projects across America. There was a K-mart commercial the other day on TV that showed African-American children on a school bus singing rap songs. It sounded like the ghetto. The ad was for back-to-school supplies. It is a shame that children are encouraged by the corporations to sing that kind of gang-land style, pimp-music that is associated with street gangs, prisons, violence, illegal drugs, pushers and prostitution in every ghetto project across the United States. Rap music is of the Devil. It is saturated with sinful pride, sensuality and a horrible bad attitude toward proper authority. It is worldly in every manner.

Sadly, poverty and crime co-exist. The answer is not more affirmative action in government, forcing companies to hire unqualified workers simply because of their race or gender. The city of San Francisco is required by law to hire at least 20% homosexuals, gays, lesbians and transgendered workers. It's wickedness. Christians don't receive any such special treatment. Truly, we are living in sordid times that are WORSE THAN SODOM AND GOMORRAH!!!

Todd Strandberg #fundie raptureready.com

The one reason why Christians keep losing ground in this country is because we constantly allow ourselves to be pushed around by groups representing minority views. Christians are the largest demographic group in this country, and yet we struggle to have influence over the basic rules of morality.

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The liberal agenda behind religious freedom is not about tolerance and copasetic co-existence. Their biased self-righteous intolerance will never be satisfied until all segments of society endorse their reprobate mindset.

Paul Kokoski #fundie renewamerica.com

The Bible tells us that Satan has the ability to "appear as an angel of light." Nowhere is this more evident than in the radical attempt to promote homosexuality in society today as something good. For the purpose of deceiving Mankind and destroying souls, Satan has thus given the homosexual lobby the following 10 commandments.

1) Always see your sexual opponent (anyone who rejects homosexual acts) as the enemy. Project what they see as your sexual disorder onto them by repetitiously calling them "homophobes";

2) Separate the act of sex from its natural purpose of procreation by referring to all homosexual relationships as expressions of "love" rather than "lust";

3) Fight to deny those who oppose homosexual acts their right to free of speech. At the same time enforce your own right to free speech on others by copiously using the liberal media and other outlets to label your opponents every unsavory thing from "bigot" to "idiot." Use the words "equality" and "hate" often and unrelentingly as if only you – the homosexual – understand their meaning. If anyone objects, accuse them of discrimination. Keep in mind that politicians and judges are your friends. Many of them are openly practicing homosexuals and the rest, swayed by power and the almighty dollar, will do anything for your vote. Remember, too, that in today's politically correct and morally relativistic society there is no objective moral order and that it often takes only one civil judge to side in your favor for you to achieve your ends;

4) Use the "race card" unceasingly against your enemy by equating homosexual behaviour (which can change) with a person's color (which, by one's will alone, cannot). Most people don't know the difference;

5) Build yourself up in the eyes of the indifferent masses – who are mere sheep – by claiming to be a modern person of tolerance and peace – one who is accepting of all. The people will believe you because in today's materialistic word people are focused primarily on themselves and their own gain. They have little or no concern for what others do as long as it does not effect them. Ridicule and undermine the intelligence of your more worthy opponents by resorting to ambiguity and sarcasm. Never resist a chance to claim that they are living in the "Dark Ages";

6) Act and speak as if homosexuals have a corner on the truth and that they alone – not their opponents – can demand of society what is right and wrong. Use every form of deceit imaginable including the use of straw man arguments and false scientific studies – anything that will appeal to the simpleton. Lie, deceive, put on a false front. Pretend you are a friend. Talk of peace and brotherhood. Make pledges of co-operation and mutual assistance. In short, destroy your opponent with a kiss;

7) Confuse the distinction between "hating the sin" and "loving the sinner." This is an absolute must since everyone – especially parents – know the time-honored value of disciple and "tough love." This can be effectively achieved by introducing special "anti-bullying" laws into schools that aim at protecting homosexuals from the enemy. If you find that someone suspects your true motives and resists on the grounds that homosexuals should not be given special status in this regard or that such laws are merely an attempt to normalize homosexuality in society, use both the "equality" and the "separation of church and state" card against them;

8) Never lose sight of the fact that God is your ultimate enemy. Attack God and all religion as something oppressive, hypocritical and evil. This is easily done by take biblical quotes out of context to suite your own purpose and meaning. At the same time avoid all talk of the murderous regimes of atheists like Hitler and Stalin;

9) Assure everyone that no religion will be made to suffer from societies' acceptance of homosexuality. Speak always and often of equality and co-existence. Claim, as a sham, snare, and illusion, that tradition marriage and homosexual marriage can live side-by-side in complete harmony. Dismiss as silly and unviable any attempt to show that the "Pill" – which was introduced to separate and tear asunder the act of sex from the gift of life – has led to the disintegrated of the family. At the same time, and wherever possible, work diligently behind the scenes to drag your religious opponent into court whenever his moral values even begin to clash with yours. Test and try every court until you find a judge who is your friend. Especially work on religious adoption agencies and church ministers who lecture on the evils of homosexuality and same-sex marriage in their sermons. Where this is not possible infiltrate the priesthood so as to corrupt religion from within,

10) Redefine joyful and well-established words and symbols like "marriage," "spouse," "gay" and "rainbow" and attach them to homosexual acts in order to give sin an innocent, natural and pleasing appeal.

This, in effect, is the homosexual lobby manifesto that is sweeping the world. Yes indeed folks, Satan is among us!

With respectful and cordial best wishes, I remain,

Sincerely Yours,

Paul Kokoski

Hunter Wallace #racist occidentaldissent.com

[From "The Compatibility of Alt-Right Christianity"]

Connor Grubaugh of First Things has responded to my response to Matthew Rose’s article The Anti-Christian Alt-Right.

Admittedly, I found the narrative about the Alt-Right and Christianity that Matthew Rose spun amusing and unconvincing and responded by lampooning it. After all, I’m a Lutheran who reads Rod Dreher and First Things. I’ve never read Alain de Benoist or Julius Evola. I’ve read Oswald Spengler and Friedrich Nietzsche, but I don’t consider their ideas to be the source of my own worldview.

Matthew Rose has a preconceived narrative: the Alt-Right is anti-Christian. In order to further this narrative, he cites the Alt-Right’s leading atheists – Greg Johnson and Richard Spencer – and dives into the European roots of Identitarianism. Like any good Nietzschean, he traces the genealogy of the Alt-Right to Alain de Benoist and the European New Right and Julius Evola and Radical Traditionalism. This is how he reaches the shocking conclusion that the Alt-Right is pagan and fundamentally anti-Christian.

As I said in the previous article, the Alt-Right is united by the belief that “race exists, race matters and race is the foundation of identity.” This is why there are atheists, agnostics, pagans and Christians who identify and affiliate with the Alt-Right.

The movement has always been internally divided over religion. The people who join the Alt-Right subscribe to a broad range of religious perspectives, but all of us are equally stigmatized and dissent from the mainstream on this particular issue.

The truth is that the origin of my racial views … are American! I find the notion that the Alt-Right is incompatible with Christianity to be preposterous. It is on the same level as the argument made by Russell Moore that the cross and Confederate flag “cannot co-exist without one setting the other on fire.” In reality, the cross and the Confederate flag got along swimmingly well during the historical Confederacy and for generations thereafter. No one in the South at the time perceived any contradiction between the two. Southerners became more intensely Christian during and after the War Between the States. The argument was made that God had allowed the Confederacy to be bathed in blood, its cities destroyed, and its enemies triumphant in order to test and sanctify His favored people.

The Alt-Right’s credo that “race exists, race matters and race is the foundation of identity” was the conventional wisdom of the American South for centuries. This view was also the mainstream view in White America until the Second World War. If Christianity in “its original and most animating form is fundamentally incompatible with the Faustian ethic and race-based mythos of the alt-right,” then it follows that the United States which was founded and settled by Christians would have never existed in the first place.

Every American president from George Washington to Dwight Eisenhower was a racist. The Fourteenth Amendment had to be passed in order for blacks to become American citizens.

If the Alt-Right is fundamentally incompatible with Christianity, then how did we come to live in this multiracial society in the first place? The answer is that race realism and Christianity were not thought to be incompatible until modern times. In the past, Christians came up with all sorts of ingenious theological arguments to rationalize everything from race realism to slavery to white supremacy to colonialism. The Puritans had their errand in the wilderness as the New Israel. The Spanish conquest of the New World was blessed by the Papacy. Africans in the South were said to be afflicted by the Curse of Ham which doomed them to be the “servant of servants.” Growing up in the Jim Crow South, my father-in-law was taught that blacks were “the beasts of the field” found in the Old Testament.

According to the Ten Commandments, Christians are instructed not to covet our “neighbor’s wife, or his or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor.” The Old Testament is full of genocides. Jesus Christ had nothing to say about racism and neither did Christendom until the 20th century. It was communists who came up with the notion that “racism” is a sin and it was the Soviet Union that started propagating that doctrine in the 1920s. The Southern Baptist Convention didn’t discover that racism was immoral until the 1990s – the last major institution in American society to come to this realization.

The vast majority of Southern Christians opposed the Civil Rights Movement and its hated crusade for “social equality” just as their denominations had split over abolition in the antebellum era.

If anything is true, my racial views are a bit milder than my Christian ancestors who once believed in slavery and polygenesis in the 19th century. Unlike my Christian ancestors, I don’t believe in the Curse of Ham or that blacks are the products of miscegenation with chimpanzees in West Africa. I don’t believe that blacks are the pre-Adamite “beasts of the field” like Southerners did in the Jim Crow South. I only bring this up to point out this was the mainstream view at the time and to show that race realism and Christianity were fundamentally compatible. The politically correct view that race realism and Christianity are “fundamentally incompatible” has been a minority opinion throughout most of American history. It also wasn’t the church which challenged and overthrew white supremacy.

Connor Grubaugh argues that I believe that “Christianity lacks any truth conditions whatsoever—that it is devoid of content, a mere vessel of empty signs and symbols, to be filled with foreign substances and remolded to suit them.” No, I am just not historically illiterate enough to make disingenuous theological arguments, especially ones which are flatly contradicted by the history of my own people. I’m on solid historical ground when I point out that Christianity easily adapted itself to racialism, slavery, imperialism, colonialism and white supremacy and much else besides in the New World, Africa and Asia.

Christians had sound theological arguments to justify all of these things.

How do we explain this? Is there simply no truth to Christian doctrine? My view is that the church has traditionally seen its job as the salvation of individual souls. The Kingdom of God isn’t of this world. The church has traditionally drawn distinctions between spiritual equality – the idea that all human beings have souls and are made in the image of God, which is why the church has resisted polygenesis, Darwinism and eugenics – and physical equality or equality in status and condition. The ease with which the church has accommodated the political establishment and adapted to a bewildering variety of authoritarian and hierarchical cultures through history is due to this otherworldly focus.

I suppose you could say that I don’t take American Christianity all that seriously when the Lutheran Church has condemned Martin Luther for anti-Semitism. In my view, it is plainly a subordinate subculture. It follows the dominant Jewish mainstream secular culture like a shadow – the idea that “racism” is immoral, interracial adoptions, political correctness, signaling over gay marriage which has recently become fashionable.

None of this stems from Christian doctrine so much as it does from the dominance of the mass media and basic human nature which is to yearn for social acceptance. Christian leaders want to be seen as respectable and in step with the secular mainstream.

Perhaps this is the real reason why we are now hearing that “the Alt-Right is fundamentally incompatible with Christianity.” The Alt-Right is being criticized by the political and cultural establishment. So naturally this is why their handmaidens in the church have followed suit. A few years from now, Christian conservatives will be arguing that transphobia is fundamentally incompatible with Christianity. The past will also be conveniently discarded in the pursuit of mainstream respectability.

Quintium #fundie forum.nationstates.net

That's what we all think. If we did not all think that our proposed policies would be beneficial to society, we would not hold them unless we were deliberately evil. As a conservative who used to be a progressive socialist, I can honestly say that I used to believe in what I believed because I thought it was the right way to go. I did not change my beliefs because my sense of morality changed - I changed them because I realised that progressive socialism would be paradise in the short term, but hell to pay in the long term. I'll give you some examples.

1. The welfare state. It looks fantastic when it's being introduced, and I used to be heavily in favour of expanding it, but:
1.1 When people start paying more than half of their income in taxes and mandatory premiums, a society's economic life stagnates and purchasing power drops, making most people poorer.
1.2 Unfortunately, a generous welfare state draws the wrong kind of immigration when that is allowed - the kind that costs money instead of adding to the welfare state.
1.3 The welfare state replaces the community with the state; you no longer look to your family or friends for help, you look to the state. This ends genuine solidarity and establishes entitlement.
1.4 In multinational states, where different ethnic or religious groups live, this sense of entitlement causes anger, hostility and rioting when some groups refuse to pay for other groups.

2. Migration. It looks fantastic in the short term, and in the past supporting it loudly really made me smug, but:
2.1 As I said, adding significantly different groups of people to one state - especially if that state is prominent in economic redistribution - leads to conflict rather than harmony.
2.2 Some forms of migration might be good for the economy, but - and if you are a socialist I don't see how you could disagree - that prosperity ends up mainly with large businesses, while ordinary people are driven out of work in places where migrants, legally or illegally, are able to work for less than the cost of living for the nationals of their host country. Not to mention, because you are not likely to be swayed by an argument related to the people already in the host country, that the migrants are often exploited and have to work under dangerous or degrading circumstances.
2.3 Migration, unfortunately, usually leads to supplantment rather than addition, because values that run contrary to each other can and will not co-exist. One must become dominant, and if migration is not kept under control then the values of the migrants will eventually become dominant. Just ask the Britons. Usually, migration occurs from places with much more corruption and much less wealth than the places these migrants end up in. That means: with every migrant you take in, your country moves one step further towards lethargy, corruption and the very infighting many migrants fled.

3. Sexual freedom. It sounds fantastic in the short term, but:
3.1 A nation needs a stable population. For that, it needs women to give birth to, on average, somewhere between 2.1 (wealthy first-world nations) and 3.3 children (third world nations, accounting for excess deaths and physical and mental handicaps preventing people from reproducing later) children. In order to do that, women - at least European women and women of European descent - generally need stability.
3.2 The sexual revolution that took place in the second half of the 1960s and the first half of the 1970s, when everything sexual became acceptable, resulted also in: (1) women marrying at a higher average age, one at which they simply cannot have enough children, (2) women going to work, meaning they have smaller families, (3) more and more broken families coming to exist.

4. Religious tolerance. It sounds fantastic in the short term, but:
4.1 You must take into account that not everyone will tolerate you, and that those who you tolerate but who do not tolerate you might one day gain the upper hand over you;
4.2 That tolerance, in itself, does not negate the fact that people with significantly different beliefs and values will not be able to live in peace indefinitely, and that one group is bound to eventually gain enough strength either in numbers or in political or economic influence to banish the other group, and that those who are tolerant are also generally the weaker side in those schisms.

Thalbania wrote:
What do you consider your own primary value to be? How can we evaluate the better ones?


The reason I became a conservative was not initially moral, although I have learned to appreciate the moral side of the debate. I became a conservative because I realised the things conservatives want - stability, security, tradition and national sovereignty - are requirements for a functioning society. At a basic level, progressives are beneficial to a nation in the short term and superficially but create deep, dangerous schisms and demographic developments that will eventually break any nation up completely. At the same basic level, conservatives seem harsh and stubborn, but they have realised - rightly so, if you ask me - that you can't have a prosperous, safe and therefore happy society that produces great science and great works of art if you set that same society up for absolute disaster in the long term.

Coriolanus #fundie answers.yahoo.com

[This guy is fucking nuts!]

Is there a "Final Solution" to the Atheist Problem?
As I see it, we need to move towards religious apartheid:

Atheists and Theists cannot co-exist: There needs to
be separate development.

I am therefore proposing that the Atheists are
evacuated to labor and re-education camps
where they will receive strict Bible instruction
and also do a fair day's work.

Once reservationized, the Atheists can become
decent and normal human being before being
released back into the population as God-fearing
American patriots.

What do you think?

Jason Todd #fundie christiannews.net

Sisyphus:
Evolution is based in science, intelligent design is an attempt to make superstition sound like science.

Jason Todd:
Evolution is a theory. And the idea of humans evolving from monkeys is part of it.
The problem with evolution is simple: Why, if we evolved from monkeys, do monkeys co-exist?

Sisyphus:
Firstly, you are using the term "theory" but mean "hypothesis", they are not the same thing. Humans have a common ancestor with modern apes, but, as I said previously, no credible scientist would contend humans evolved from monkeys.

Jason Todd:
No, I mean theory. Evolution is merely a guess, ruined by your own admission that we didn't evolve from monkeys. Intelligent design merely suggests a creator. This makes sense because the idea everything came from nothing is logically absurd.

Sisyphus:
How can you discuss anything related to science without even understanding the terms and concepts? Try learning the difference between theory versus a hypothesis. Hypothesis = a guess explaining observable phenomena & theory = a tested model to explain a proven set of factors. What you explain regarding evolution is a hypothesis, and evolution is a scientific model of facts.

Jason Todd:
Science always changes. God never does. Why can't you grasp that concept?

Rehmat #racist ummah.com

A great majority of Jewry – left, right or religious – according to many opinion polls show, overwhelmingly support Zionist state and, furthermore, overwhelmingly favor legal abortion, sexual freedom, and gay –lesbian rights.
The other common trait they have is not only their centuries-old hatred toward Christianity, but also the Jews, who have converted to Christianity – which is considered one of the worst sins a Jew can commit - as witness Jewish hostility to ‘Jews for Jesus’.

An irreligious or atheist Jew may claim Israeli citizenship at any time, but a Jew who has converted to Christianity may not. Their hatred even covers even the public exaltation of the Old Testament (or the Ten Commandments), as they have been adopted Christians in their New Testament.

Mel Gibson’s movie ‘The Passion of the Christ’ brought this Jewish hatred in the open. Both columnist Charles Krauthammer and ADL president Abraham Foxman blamed the biblical story of crucification being the main reason for Christians’ persecution of Jews for the last 2000 years – and demanded that this story and other Jesus’ anti-Semitic quote should to deleted from the New Testament for a future peaceful co-existence between Christians and Jews.

William Safire of the New York Times virtually blamed the Holocaust on Christ himself, citing the words “I come not to bring peace, but a sword” as evidence of Christianity’s inherent violence. Last year, famous Jewess comedian, Sara Silverman said that she is happy that Jews killed Jesus – and that she would kill him herself if he returns.

Jewish hatred also implies to the literary works of some greatest Christian writers. For example, Shakespeare’s Shylock in ‘The Merchant of Venice’ – is Jewish villain and is called by the Christian characters in the book as “bloodthirsty usurer”, a “wolf,” “misbeliever,” “cutthroat dog,” etc. etc. - for his greed and not for killing their Lord Christ. Jewish Lobby has succeeded in baning the reading of this English literary masterpiece in many western universities including Britain.

Glen Russell #fundie spiritualistresources.com

What causes mental illness and its various types? The answer lies in demon possession. When a person has mental illness such as schizophrenia, bipolar, major depression, psychosis, multiple personality disorder, or has suicidal thoughts, the individual has quite literally "lost their mind" to invading demon spirits.
Demon spirits pray on those who are weak mentally, physically and emotionally. When a person suffers a trauma in their life and they are unable to cope with the trauma mentally and emotionally, a part of their soul chooses not to have that experience and splits off causing "soul fragmentation". This leaves a vacuum or space for demon spirits to reside within the soul and influence the mind and feelings of the person involved.

These demon spirits enter through holes in the aura when the person is emotionally vulnerable and seeks to "escape" their own life. Take for example, marijuana usage in teenagers who are often emotionally troubled and seek to escape the reality of their troubled lives. Taking drugs such as marijuana causes holes to appear in the aura. It is also a form of "escapism" that fragments the soul, leaving the individual open and vulnerable to demon possession. And this is why schizophrenia has been linked to marijuana usage. It is not the marijuana itself that is causing the schizophrenia, it is the invasion of the demon spirit that hi-jacks the soul and mind of the troubled teenager, after they have used marijuana.

This is why we see ordinary young adults stay healthy all their lives - free of schizophrenia - and then all of a sudden have schizophrenia after taking marijuana. It is because they have lost control of their mind due to demon possession.

Severe or more extreme types of mental illness such as schizophrenia, bipolar, personality disorder, multiple personality disorder, psychosis are caused by a large number of demon and earthbound spirits entering the soul of the person involved. The person has literally lost control of their soul and mind to malevolent or negative spirits. Major depression, suicide and suicidal thoughts are also caused by demon or earthbound spirits influencing the mind and the emotions of the person's soul they inhabit.

Most people on earth have one or more earthbound or demon spirits within their soul, that has gained entry into their soul either during this lifetime or been carried over from a past life. Yet because demon spirits can only possess a soul according to the degree to which it has chosen to give away control of its soul, most demon possession is only partial in nature and the demon spirit expresses itself through the identity of the human ego. Most people cannot distinguish between what is of their own human ego, which is negative and fear-based in nature, and what is of a demon spirit that has infiltrated their soul under the guise of the ego.

The website mentioned below will give you important tools and information on this subject, information that has been channeled from Jesus Christ and other spiritual beings of Light, to help free you of the clutches of this demonic scurvy that has raged the souls of the people on earth. It is time to take back control of your soul.

Ray Comfort #fundie facebook.com

Let's imagine for a moment that we are here because of evolution. Let's take it from the top of the head and work down to the throat to see what sort of job evolution did.

There are headaches suffered by millions, brain hemorrhages, aneurysms, hair loss, dandruff, scalp itch, mental disease, panic attacks, insomnia, sleep apnea, brain cancer, pink eye, blindness, canker sores, cold sores, nearsightedness, conjunctivitis, styes, gum disorders, stuttering, nasal congestion, sinus problems, asthma, memory loss, hay fever, ringing in the ears, heartburn, acid reflux, nausea, head lice, nasal sores, acne, strep throat, epilepsy, stroke, vertigo, lockjaw, shortness of breath, skin cancer, throat cancer, overcrowding of the teeth, deafness, ear ache, tooth ache, shingles, snoring, thyroid disorders, tooth grinding, head colds, and nightmares.

And that's just the tip of the iceberg of diseases we can all get. We haven't even looked below the neck--at the heart, the blood, bones, muscles, liver, pancreas, lungs, etc.

Evolution didn't do a very good job did it? And what's more, evolution believers have no explanation for all these diseases. That's just how it is, and we have to deal with it, until death takes us.

Evolution leaves believers ignorant and utterly hopeless.

So let's stop imagining, and look at reality. The Bible says that we were made by God, and that in the beginning everything was "very good." There was no suffering, earthquakes, tornadoes, hurricanes, disease, and no death. But when sin came, it brought with it the Genesis curse. But even way back then God promised that He would redeem humanity by making a way to forgive our sins and grant us everlasting life.

So the Bible not only explains our origins, it explains why we have so much suffering, why death exists, and it offers eternal life and hope, through the gospel. Won't you please consider joining us in that glorious hope? Check out www.needGod.com

Timcast #fundie youtube.com

The world, where the more of a victim you are, the more power you have. Everyone will make everythings about themselves specifically, and even insult themselves to gain more points. Take note, Kotaku: "How the 'NPC' Meme Tries to Dehumanize 'SJWs'".

Notice that they refer to themselves as 'SJWs'. Well, I'm told that "Social Justice Warrior" is a pejorative, though there are some people who actually embrace it because a warrior isn't necessarily a bad thing. They are using that term to refer to themselves in quotes because it's meant to be dehumanizing.

Now, you may be wondering what NPC meme? Well, if you're not familiar with it, then: awhile ago, people started spreading this idea -- I actually made a video on it awhile ago -- how there might only be some people who have souls. That's probably the easiest way to explain it. If you've ever played a video game, the easiest explanation I've given people is like the original Super Mario Bros. He runs around, and jumps, and does things. There are other characters on the screen who do things as well, but noone is playing the Goomba, noone is playing the Koopa (the little turtle guys). You are controlling Mario. The other people, there is no soul guiding them. That's a non-player character.

The idea is that there are people in this world who are not conscious. They don't think. There is an article saying that only about 20% of people have an internal voice. That's like when you think and you talk to yourself. I've talked to a lot of people and they've said, "Yeah. I don't think in words to myself." Well, that's weird, because I do.

So, then, what happens is that the people who do have an internal voice started to question about whether there are other people who are non-player characters, that is, they have no soul. The meme is not necessarily an attempt to dehumanize SJW's. It's just a philosophical idea.

This woman, Cellia D'Anastasio, thinks that this was grade-school religious nonsense. In fact, the idea of the NPC meme is related to solipsism and the philosophical zombie. The idea of the philosophical zombie has existed for a very, very long time. I don't know how long. Maybe hundreds of years? Humans thought of this concept long before video games existed. So, no, it's not an attempt to dehumanize SJWs.

Stan and Elizabeth Madrak #fundie demonbuster.com

There is a DIABETES spirit which operates in the inner-ear. He inhibits your hearing, he inhibits what you receive through your ears. He flips your hearing backwards and puts water in your inner ear. Spirit of deafness works with the spirit in the inner ear.

Itching, irritation and incoherent demons work with DIABETES.

Spirits lodged in the heart causes pain in the feet. Another spirit causes inflammation of the pancreas and destroys the insulin and generates self-rejection.

My prayer for you is that if the DIABETES spirits are binding you and destroying your body, that you will seek the Lord for help and DELIVERANCE.

The medical community says that the DIABETES can be controlled, but you cannot control a demon.

David played the harp that soothed the demon in King Saul, but it only lasted temporarily and that demon would manifest and Saul would throw that javelin at David because the music would only control that demon for a short while.

You are not going to be able to control DIABETES. He will eventually gain the upper hand. He will make your life miserable and will ultimately destroy you.

The Lord Jesus Christ said in John 10:10, "The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I AM come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly."

He said, "Come that you might have life and might have it more abundantly" for those who call upon the Lord will be delivered."

So let us take the ten (10) arms of the DIABETES spirits and cast them out of you so that he can stop hindering your life.

Praise the Lord!

John Rocker #racist wnd.com

When it comes to race, media pick their punches. Rarely will you witness the mainstreamers cover a racially charged story that doesn’t fit their narrative.

[...]

It seems like every day you turn on the TV there is a new source of racial conflict to remind us that we are nowhere near a post-racial America. From the Trayvon Martin shooting to the Philadelphia Eagles’ Riley Cooper’s controversial remarks (an almost entirely media-driven story), the mainstream media constantly remind us that racial animosity is still alive and well in America today.

The problem is they only show one side of the story that fits their view. If a Caucasian person speaks in a manner the media in their infinite wisdom deem to be “racist,” expect around-the-clock coverage with experts brought in to discuss what a bigoted culture white America is.

But when a large group of blacks attack white individuals simply because of their pale complexion in some misguided effort to correct injustices from generations gone by, expect media to do just about everything in their power to ensure such a story sees as little light of day as possible.

Colin Flaherty’s new book, “White Girl Bleed a Lot: The Return of Racial Violence to America and How the Media Ignore It,” thoroughly documents the troubling and growing trend of black mob violence that is occurring all over the country. But don’t expect a glowing review in any major American publications, as this narrative flies in the face of every preconceived notion media tirelessly seek to perpetuate.

Our media’s view on race is that blacks and other minorities are always the victim and that whites (or “white Hispanics”) are always the ones doing the victimizing. Once an individual or group achieves “victim” status from our race-baiting American mainstream media, a wrong thing they cannot do. Media will tirelessly fan the flames of racial dissent and more often than not be the ones actually responsible for convincing the “victims” that they in fact ARE victims when such a prior notion didn’t exist.

When stories contradict the narrative of victimology, the media will largely turn a deaf ear and a blind eye. The mainstream media completely ignored the Knoxville horror story in “White Girl Bleed A Lot” because it didn’t follow the standard liberal agenda regarding race relations in this country.

Perhaps even more frightening than media “choosing” the news is media creating the news to further their narrative as it relates to a person’s words or actions in the vein of race relations. What do I mean? I will try to explain. I found myself as the subject of a thorough media colonoscopy in 2000 after partial thoughts and sentence fragments were crudely splashed on the pages of Sports Illustrated.

To begin, the theme of the article was crafted in such a way as to create the stage that would give media the opportunity to further their obnoxious PC platform related to “racial tolerance.” And once the stage was set the barrage of haymakers began with the undoubted intent of letting every red-blooded Caucasian within these borders know to watch their tongues closely.

To media, my transgressions were far worse than any act of rape, robbery or murder based on racial animosity.

[...]

It’s becoming harder and harder to continue to ignore the epidemic of black mob violence that’s plaguing America. Thomas Sowell and Rep. Allen West both commented that Flaherty’s book showcases the fact that racial tensions are worsening in America, and both highly recommended reading the book.

[...]

Hopefully, “White Girl Bleed a Lot” will begin breaking through this barrier and make Americans who will never hear such a story from the mainstream more aware of what is going on in our urban centers and try to find a real solution to the problem of black mob violence.

Mike Adams #conspiracy naturalnews.com

The first realization I hope you grasp is that once Trump wins, radical leftists will go "full terrorist" across the USA, setting off bombs, riots and mass mayhem on a scale we've never witnessed before.

Leftists are brain damaged, of course, which is why they all voted for Clinton. That's also why they burn down their own communities, not realizing the very shops they're torching belong to their own uncles and grandmothers.

During these riots, Clinton-supporting leftists always seem to find the nearest white person and start beating them to death. Although such acts are, of course, felony assault, the leftist political establishment excuses the acts as a form of "social justice," meaning no one will come to help you.

Thus, my first piece of advice is to stay away from the riots. But if you have to drive through any cities for any reason, you might accidentally wind up being dragged out of your car and bludgeoned to death by angry leftist radicals who can't wait to commit mass violence (and even genocide), profiling people based on their skin color to carry out leftist hate crimes against whites.

For this reason -- and I'm not joking here -- you need to own and carry a loaded firearm if it's legal for you to do so. I recommend the Glock 19 as a good starting point, but some people prefer revolvers for the simple reason that they don't leave behind any shell casings at the scene. Whatever you decide to get, you need to be locked and loaded and ready to defend your life and property if violent, radical leftists attempt to commit felony assault against you.

I'm not joking, and I qualify this by urging you to abide by local laws. If you happen to live in an area where carrying a loaded firearm for self-defense is illegal, then you are living in the wrong state and should get out while you still can. Always abide by local laws and carry a firearm responsibly.

Most people have no idea just how bad things might get after the election, and the belief that dialing 911 will magically bring police who can save you is ludicrous. (They will be too busy dealing with all the other crimes happening at the same time.)

So that's item No. 1: A firearm (where legal). As a technical note, I don't like guns with thumb safeties. It's too much effort to screw around with a thumb safety in a moment of panic. Glocks have passive trigger safeties, not thumb safeties, which is one reason why I'm a Glock fan. Also, get some good handgun safety training so you can carry your Glock safely and responsibly. Learn how to disassemble and clean your Glock, and keep it lubricated so it doesn't jam when you need it.

Item No. 2 is, predictably, ammo for the firearm.

If you don't own 1000 rounds of ammo for your firearm, you're not serious about prepping. Do you really think the radical leftist rioters trying to assault you or burn down your house are going to walk away after you've expended that sole 50-round box of ammo you've procured?

Nope, angry leftist zombies will at you come in waves, and there are millions of them. If they're assaulting you, attempting to burn down your house, trying to carjack you or dropping fire bombs on your retail establishment, you're probably going to need more than 50 rounds of ammo. Don't forget the spare magazines, either, which you'll want to have pre-loaded with hollow point ammo rounds for maximum self-defense effectiveness.

Also, I'll share this from experience: Get yourself a good set of ear protectors, or you'll emerge totally deaf after a firefight. Amazon sells this decent set of ear muffs for just $17, with 34dB of noise protection. Trust me, you'll need it when the zombies attack.

Patriot #fundie koaa.com

Prophets are people who hear God speaking to them about things happening today or things which will happen in the future, and bring this word to the people. They are mouthpieces for God.

I believe that one such prophet is a man named Chuck Youngbrandt. I've been reading his letters for years now, used scripture and logic to test the veracity of his claims, prayed to God about his genuineness, and I've become convinced that he's not a fraud. He's the real deal.

As with the prophets of old, Chuck's message is not well accepted among God's people. Why? Because he is bringing a message of judgment, and few American churches want to hear anything negative about our future. God's "people" want to hear messages of blessing and prosperity. They want to hear good things about their future and the future of our nation. So, when God wants to tell them about bad things that are soon to come upon us, their reaction is to berate the messenger and turn a deaf ear. It's sad, but I believe it's true. God's church in America has gone astray, seeking only what their itching ears want to hear. His Spirit is far from their hearts.

sadie555 #fundie richarddawkins.net

The biblical ignorance here is astounding. I was once there myself but not any more. The Bible is a difficult study no doubt and I am still a babe learning with a fantastic biblical scholar.

I wish I was further along so I could contribute here, however, it would fall on deaf ears anyway!

Did you know your body is full of phosphorus which the Bible refers too. It is mainly in your skeletal system and you know what. It must be there for you to exist! Oddly, when the physical body dies, although we still see the mass of flesh...the phosphorus dissappears!! So where does it go!

Did you know you glow? Yes, this phophorus glows yet you cannot see it with the naked eye!

Check it out! You glow but you can't see it! Why?

Bob #fundie thatatheistbitch.blogspot.com


Bob wrote:
I have to admit the you make a good case for me to just do "what I feel" with no fear of repercussion. Since now we both agree that God is not here to punish the wicked or tell us what to do I must confess that the things I am going to do now are rape,robbery,murder and bigotry. These are the things that I find exciting... so with no fear of repose let the games begin! Where do you live sweetie?

[Part Two]

Assuming your world view is correct then you can sit there and indulge in your "love", while I on the other hand indulge my life's ambitions of rape, robbery, and persecution. Since there is no God to tell us what is right and what is wrong, then I suppose we get to decide for ourselves, and I think I'm gonna take a ride on your back little girl. Who's gonna stop me now that God is dead... and your weak pathetic cry for love goes on deaf ears. Get ready for some pain ^*&%$!

Bob #fundie associatedcontent.com

Assuming your world view is correct then you can sit there and indulge in your "love", while I on the other hand indulge my life's ambitions of rape, robbery, and persecution. Since there is no God to tell us what is right and what is wrong, then I suppose we get to decide for ourselves, and I think I'm gonna take a ride on your back little girl. Who's gonna stop me now that God is dead... and your weak pathetic cry for love goes on deaf ears. Get ready for some pain ^*&%$!

Eden Decoded #fundie facebook.com

The problem with many Christians is that they think on such a sub-basic level (just downright idiotic); and therefore they have absolutely NO spiritual power. This is why people in the church tend to gravitate to psychics, astrology, reiki healing, vision boards, I AM declarations, the Secret, yoga, and tantric sex practices.

Knowledgeable and high-level witches and occultists understand that spirituality is very elite and consist of many complex levels. Which is why they practice and stay faithful to their craft. Even Satanists and warlocks are very diligent, faithful, and committed to the dark side as well. They go to demon church; and observe all of their demonic feast holidays.

However, when it comes to the average Christian--who REALLY has access to the most supreme and righteous power that can trump any devil--you can't even get them to consistently read the Bible, nor even try to keep a lifestyle consistent with biblical standards.

The average Christian is so weak that even their 'Amens' are useless and fall on deaf ears. Their prayers go unanswered and they are always sickly and mentally impoverished.

The average Christian is fat, sloppy, full of lust, and can't stop playing with themselves. They are always looking for the next sin thrill.

The Body of Christ is sick. And in any sick body, the immune system (aka the Holy Spirit) cleans and heals the body; removing and rejecting all that sickens and weakens it; limbs will fall off because of rottenness (like gangrene); hence why you have to chop off such limbs. (reference Matthew 7:17-19; john 15:2-6)

Make sure you're not rejected by the Holy Spirit. And take this message as a serious warning.

Revelation 3:15-17, “I know your works, that you are neither cold nor hot. I could wish you were cold or hot. So then, because you are lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will VOMIT you out of My mouth.

Because you say, ‘I am rich, have become wealthy, and have need of nothing’—and do not know that you are wretched, miserable, poor, blind, and naked..."

It's a sobering thought that a 'Satanist' can have a real encounter with Jesus Christ, and COMPLETELY and immediately walk away from SIN and commit their whole life to Jesus Christ right at that moment--hence why Jesus said it's better for you to be COLD!

Too many of you lukewarm Christians take the Word of God for a joke hence why you will never get salvation, and why Jesus said he will reject you (if he hasn't rejected you already).

Insidious_Sid #fundie goingyourownway.com

Governments will continue to become more socialist because more women will vote, and women need socialist governments to pay for their whore spawn. The reason they don't care that beta's are leaving the plantation is because they see how women are propped up and taken care of. The alpha's (who they only want to fuck) are either not good marriage material or want nothing to do with it - so the women don't want marriage anyways. Marriage was just a pain in the ass for women - they did it as a means to and end, that end being a mans wallet. Now they access ALL men's wallets through the state.

There will be a tax war. Men saying "fuck it" will continue to be taxed more and more to pay for more and more bastard alpha babies. Governments will continue to create more insidious ways of getting men to pay for children that are not theirs. They will also bring in more immigrants from the most vile sewers of the world to get the vote from yet more.... socialist-dependent individuals. Impoverished immigrants with language barriers and barriers to the workforce are sheep - they will vote in droves for the governments that pander to them the most. Governments know they don't need marriages or babies from marriages. They can import voters from every corner of the earth.

Economies will crumble - women are actually waiting for this. They believe in the lies of the feminist utopia, where the rich white men at the top of the towers fall to their deaths, the towers topple and gold spills into the streets for everyone to plunder. They have no real knowledge of what the real repercussions of this will be - they think it will be handsome alphas fucking all the women while betas toil in the mines and obediently pay their taxes.

That's not what is going to happen. Before it's all over they will say "Oh no, what have we done?!"

These cries will fall on deaf ears.

Lauren Stratford #fundie books.google.com

My Own Hell
Not all of the rituals took place in Victor's basement. Some occurred on the far side of his estate, or deep in the hills. Occasionally we ventured into a church or cemetery. But no matter where they occurred, it was my own personal hell! I was not Victor's woman for the purpose of becoming a satanist. I was never trained to be a satanist. I only attended the ceremonies because Victor took me with him. However, I was seldom just a passive observer. Victor believed that Satan would give him the power he so desperately craved if he offered his woman as a sexual sacrifice. So I was seldom taken to a ritual where I was not abused.
My one small defense was to carry a little New Testament with the Psalms hidden in a pocket. Whenever I had a chance, I would sneak it out and read a verse or two. Usually I found myself reading from the Psalms. It comforted me to read about David's despair and how God kept loving him and giving him the strength to go on.
Once when I was offered as a sexual sacrifice the New Testament fell out of my pocket. Victor saw it and was livid. He picked it up and tore it into tiny pieces, then threw the pieces on the ground and urinated on them. When he was done, he commanded me to never touch another Bible. "I'll not have my woman being a Jesus lover!" he yelled. "And neither will Satan!"
To my shame, I remained silent. I wanted to yell back at him that there was nothing he could do to make me stop loving Jesus. But I was too scared. However, Victor was now convinced that offering me to be used by the satanists would be doubly pleasing to Satan because of my faith in Jesus.
I don't know how many nights I was laid on that cold, hard slab of rock—naked, shivering from the cold of night, while listening to unending chants that beckoned Satan. Every time, the same horrifying fear would grip my heart as the demons were conjured up to give their orders as to how my body would be used. The steel of a purified knife glistened in the candlelight, and I wondered if it would be used on my body. Already there were scars on my body, for it was commonplace to drain blood into the chalice from a cut they made on me. Sometimes, when a knife was poised above my heart, I wished to God that the high priest would plunge it swiftly into my body, putting an end to my hell. My life was a slow, torturous death fiat never ended.
Suffer the Little Children
Another element of some of the rituals was the sacrifice of animals, and even infants—sometimes taken directly from the young pregnant mother. I hesitate to write of these sacrifices, but I must.
I witnessed the ultimate sacrifice of a baby—skinned while still alive. I heard its screams which must have reached to the heavens. But even God seemed to turn a deaf ear. I often wondered why He allowed the hideous torture of a helpless, innocent little child. Didn't He have the power to protect the little ones? Didn't the sound of the screams that only an infant can make bother Him? Was He a God of love or was He a cold, uncaring God? Bitterness and anger toward this "God of love" began to grow in my heart. How could this Person show no pity on an innocent baby? That question would ring in my mind until I would find myself looking up to the heavens, screaming at Him in anger and resentment.
Victor told me that the purest sacrifice, the sacrifice that pleases Satan the most, is none other than an infant or young child. Why? Because children represent purity and innocence; they belong to God. Animals are offered to Satan. Adults, willingly or unwillingly, are offered to Satan. But Satan revels in the most macabre, inhuman, and bestial evil he can conceive in the diabolical machinations of his mind. There is no evil more perverse than the murder of a little one whose life has been robbed from God and sacrificed to Satan.
Where do they get the children? That is a valid question. I'm sure that it is very difficult for people to believe that children can be used for sacrifices in this country. If I had not witnessed this atrocity, I would ask the same question. Believe me, I would like to deny it, or at least doubt it. But I can't. I learned the answer the hard way.
Tom was a Master Counselor in satanism, and Victor frequently brainstormed ideas for rituals with him. One night I heard Victor blurt out, "I've got a good one, Tom. Listen to this. This is too much, man. I mean, this will blow your brains out!" Victor tried to describe his idea, but he was so consumed with the brilliance of his newly devised horror that he couldn't speak. It was as if his brain was working faster than his mouth.
I had seen Victor like this before. His voice always rose to a higher pitch and ran on fast-forward when he was trying to explain a new idea for a future ritual. I always felt I was hearing Satan speak when Victor was this way. I anticipated that each new revelation would be a little more demonic, a little more sadistic, a little more perverse than the last one. I was usually right. This one was no exception.
"Tom, I want Satan to give me more power than any other high priest," exclaimed Victor. "My Master Teacher has always expected great things from me. I don't want to disappoint him. I've been racking my brain thinking about what I can do that will make me more powerful than anyone else. I think I've found it!"
"I'm afraid to ask," Tom said dryly. "Don't lay too much on me if I have any part in your new plan." Though a close friend of Victor's, Tom had always been a little leery of these brainstorms.
"It goes like this." Victor's speech slowed and he was now talking in dead earnest. "We'll get a teenage boy and girl off the street and bring them up here. Then we'll get a baby from a gal we've been keeping our eyes on. Or maybe we'll even use the mother. Yeah! That would be even better."
"Wait a minute," Tom interrupted. "Where are we getting this baby from?"
"Oh, you know, Tom. That babe we've been hiding out. That one who thinks we're going to find a good home for her baby. She's going to have the kid any day now."
"Oh, yeah, I know the one. I can't believe how dumb these girls are. Who does she think we are, anyway—the fairy princess?" Tom was laughing so hard he could hardly speak.
As the laughter died down, Victor continued. "We'll marry the two kids off to each other during the ritual. Then we'll present this little kid to them. We'll make them a family—Mom and Dad and the new baby—the whole family scene."
Victor was getting excited again. Speaking faster and faster, he began to describe his plan for presenting this entire "family" to Satan. The two teenagers would be forced to sanctify their marriage union by having sexual relations with each other on the altar. Then the teenagers and the baby would be sexually abused by the coven members.
The grand finale would be the sacrifice of the baby. When I heard that, once again, as I had done so many times before, I raised my head to the heavens and silently cried out, "My God, what more can Satan do?" Once again, the heavens remained silent.
What particularly shocked me was the way Tom and Victor, and occasionally some coven members, discussed where and how they would get the babies. I learned from Tom that there were fraudulent people who represented themselves as caseworkers of adoption agencies or heads of placement homes. They carried so-called "legitimate" identification papers, but they were either satanists or were acting as go-betweens. Their purpose was to get the unsuspecting and well-intentioned unwed mother to sign her baby away to a pornographic ring or to people connected with satanic cults.
One afternoon Victor and Tom were laughing about what they called "want-ad babies." "Did you see the ad I placed in the paper the other day?" Tom asked. "I said that Janie and I were prospective parents who were searching for an unwed pregnant young woman who would give her baby up to us for adoption after it was born. Man, you wouldn't believe how many gals answered the ad! We've got a supply of babies all set up whenever we need them. We could have enough babies to last us a whole year!"
I cringed. I'd never heard of babies referred to as a supply before. This was too much. I got sick and threw up. Victor and Tom laughed and called me a wimp._
On another occasion some coven members sat around and talked about their breeders. The word "breeder" was new to me. One of the members explained that breeders were women who were born, marked, and raised for the sole purpose of having babies that would be used by satanists—either to be raised in satanism or used in ritualistic sacrifices. Since there was never any public record of their births, they were never missed when they were abused or killed.
I thought I had heard it all until a high priestess approached Victor after a ritual as he and I were about to leave. She informed him that she had completed the assignment. "I convinced Judy (a new female coven member who was eight months pregnant) to assume the highest honor. She agreed to give her baby by C-section while lying on a purified altar."
I gasped. Victor turned and chuckled. He was always amused when I reacted in shock. Then he asked the priestess, "Did you make arrangements for a doctor?"
"Yes, I've engaged the services of a licensed doctor," she answered. "I understand that he is one of ours."
I'm sure this seems too horrendous for many of you to comprehend. It was for me. But I heard it and saw it. It's true.

fornra #fundie npr.org

If it weren't for liberals like you the NRA could get back to the basics, but as long as you idiots keep attacking gun owners with reckless abandon and false numbers they must stand against you and that hurts all of us!
And just because I might choose guns that differ from the ones you like doesn't mean my choice is any more dangerous than yours!
As a matter of fact I seriously doubt that you ,coeumo or Jeff Hall even own a gun at all but if you do California is waiting to welcome you with open arms and plenty of restrictions!
An Abrams tank from 300 miles away!
You fail to accept the limitations of our military equipment and you underestimate the number of gun owners in America!
You also assume that our enlisted men and women will take up arms against their own family and friends, you also forget about our National Guard that is controlled by the individual states and posses far more arms than what the military does within the continental United States!
The number of gun owners in Texas alone would probably outnumber all of out military combined, and then you have 48 other states that could provide reinforcements as needed, or if needed!
The NRA leads the conversation, they call for enforcement of the gun laws that are already on the books,(something over a thousand I believe), but it falls on deaf ears!
Liberals are not interested in curbing so called gun violence, (which is actually criminal violence), they are all about control of the population which requires us to be disarmed!
You people fall for all the statistics that the liberal media choose to throw out without checking to see if it is accurate, and most of it is misleading at best!
One of their favorite lines is that America has the highest number of crimes committed with guns in the free world, although this is true in part it doesn't reflect reality in that we are not all in such danger!
If you simply remove all the large Democratic controlled cities from that equation America falls down below #40!
If you remove all the crimes committed by black men we also drop way down the list!
You see what we really need new laws to address are Democrats, black men and illegal aliens! Then we could go back the way it was when I was a child and know one even locked their doors at night!

Rob Sanchez #racist vdare.com

It's very important to notice that one of the chief arguments used for the Navajo nation is that hiring foreigners (anybody who lives outside of the reservation) could degrade the sovereignty of the Navajo Nation.

Sovereignty arguments have been used by many Indian tribes to defeat challenges to preference hiring.

It seems to reason that if non-tribal workers from outside of the reservation could degrade the sovereignty of the Navajo Nation the same should be true when foreign workers are allowed into the U.S. Preserving sovereignty is a compelling argument but it lands on deaf ears whenever activists have tried the same argument against allowing guest workers like H-1B/H-2B/L-1 into the U.S.

So far the Navajos are winning these types of lawsuits. The EEOC and many other employers have tried to force the Navajo nation to hire non-Navajos but it's a losing battle because, as New Mexico attorney general Patricia Madrid wrote: Congress "expressly disallows the EEOC from suing a government, such as the Navajo Nation or the State of New Mexico or any of the individual States of the Union."

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Before we shed crocodile tears for SRP or Peabody, or even the Basha's supermarket chain, let's keep in mind that Basha's has a bad reputation for union busting and the hiring of illegal aliens. SRP hires large numbers of H-1Bs and in 2004 the utility actively lobbied with the Arizona Chamber of Commerce to expand the H-1B program. Discrimination in the hiring of engineers at SRP's Navajo Station happens because Navajo Indians don't want non-Navajos taking jobs away from their own people. Off the reservation SRP has shown they are willing to discriminate against American citizens by hiring H-1Bs from places like India. Perhaps we could learn something from the Navajos about doing what's best for their own people.

WaitinginTexas #fundie rr-bb.com

Our son was in boy scouts for a little over one year.. During the second year, December rolled around and the parents starting planning a party.. We would exchange presents, eat good stuff and play games.. We offered to have the "Christmas party" at our house and provide all the food... The leader said it would have to be called a "Gift Exchange" and nothing more.. hmmm.. We argued that if it was to be at our house, it would be a Christmas Party.

The next day, an email was sent out and the "Gift Exchange" was to be held at the Leader's house. Our son decided to quit that night.. he didn't understand why it couldn't be called a "Christmas Party" ...he was 8 at the time. None of the boys in our troops came from non-christian families so it didn't make sense to us either.

Boy Scouts are supposed to open to ALL religions.. even Christianity. That was our argument to the Leader, but it fell on deaf ears. Two other boys dropped out also.

Daniel Silva #fundie quora.com

I’ve never been to a country outside of America, yet I continue to believe other countries exist.

Why? Because people who have experiences in those countries have come back and told the detailed stories of their experiences. They tell what they’ve seen and heard, how the people behave, etc. They bring back souvenirs, pictures, etc. (otherwise known as evidence.)

But if I, having no experience in another country, were to tell those people, “No other countries besides America exist!” what do you think they would say?

“You’re crazy! We’ve been there. We’ve seen the evidence!”

If I say, again, from my lack of experience in those countries, “there’s no evidence! It’s all a fairy tale myth!” I might be able to say it in a way that sounds intellectual, but I’m still trying to convince people with an experience that my lack of experience is a more reliable piece of evidence.

It’s silly.

So what is the only way I’ll believe if I don’t accept the stories and souvenirs people bring back as good enough evidence?

I’ll have to go to one of those other countries and see for myself.

When it comes down to it, regarding why I believe, no argument, no matter how convincing, will satisfy the need some people have to see for themselves. Even if I bring back tangible evidence, people will yell “Trickery! You made that in your basement!”

My friends and I used to travel towns and pray for the sick. We would see a lot of miracles happen: Broken bones being instantly put back together, people getting out of wheelchairs, deaf ears opening, migraines disappearing, etc. All the same evidence Jesus brought from his country.

Still, no matter how much the evidence, no matter how many verified doctor reports there were, no matter how many videos we published, there were a ton of people (including Christians) screaming, “Trickery! You’ve falsified those claims!”

Why? Because they lack the experience.

I believe because I’ve seen the other country. I’ve tasted the food. I’ve participated in the recreational activities.

I’ve seen so much evidence that even when I don’t want to believe that other country exists, I can’t stop because my life has been full of the evidence.

I believe because I’ve seen plenty of evidence (too much, if you consider my previous statement). If it’s not good enough evidence for others, that’s their deal. It doesn’t cancel what I’ve seen, heard, tasted and touched.

Mark A. Siefert #fundie patheos.com

Below are several posts of his.


So? Why should our civilization be held hostage by the "wisdom" of bunch of wealthy, 18th Century slave-holders who thought that only white male landowners should be allowed to vote?

We've learned so much more about humanity and the world since then. Our concept of "freedom" needs to change along with that understanding.

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I care more about civilization, equality, and objective reality than I ever will about "freedom."

Freedom is what got us into this mess. Freedom is chaos. Freedom is crime. Freedom is giving lies as much weight as truth. Freedom is putting more emphasis on the greedy desire of individuals than the needs of the species. Freedom is environmental destruction. Freedom is allowing superstition to grow like a cancer.

Freedom gave us Trump.

Don't sing me any songs about free anything. It will fall on deaf ears.

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In response to a post by someone who said they were accused of racism for criticizing the religion of Islam:
Considering most of what passes for criticism of Islam is mainly calling anyone who vaguely looks Middle Eastern a "Camel Jockey" or a "Sand N*gger" followed by advocating the Sam Harris Doctrine of racial profiling, torture, and nuclear genocide, I don't blame them for coming to that conclusion.

If you don't think that racism is worthy of punishment, then I never want to hear you complain about racial prejudice.

Paul M. Dohse Sr. #wingnut #pratt #fundie paulspassingthoughts.com

The news stopped me dead in my tracks mentally. A giant mural of teen “environmental activist” Greta Thunberg is going up in San Francisco’s Union Square. Recently, Leonardo DiCaprio praised Thunberg as a “leader of our time” following a day of just chillin’ out together. Shockingly, she has even spoken before the UN Assembly and invited to speak at a TED Talk. She is 15 years old.

A fact reality check: in the 1960’s global freezing was going to destroy the world by sometime in the 1980s; it didn’t happen, and frankly, even as adolescents, we knew better. In the 60s the book, Silent Spring was all the rage and required reading in our junior High School Literature class. The thesis of the book follows: for the first time in human history, man had acquired the ability to destroy the world. Hence, the scientific world was divided into to camps: those who improve and empower a society made up of the collective efforts of free individuals, and those scientists who believe that man must be saved from himself by minority elitists. Indeed, presuppositions concerning mankind are central to all of this. Is mankind totally depraved? Is mankind totally unable? In the total depravity of man ideology, whether of secular political ideology or religion, the truly wise are experts in the knowledge that enables the totally depraved to have their best existence according to what has been preordained for them. They are experts in the knowledge that man knows nothing, which is the beginning of wisdom. Supposedly. It is a zero sum life ideology, a kind of nihilism if you will.

But, does man really have the ability to destroy the world? Well, if you look at man’s execution of the most earth-destroying power at his disposal to date, that would be the dropping of the atomic bomb on Hiroshima, Japan. Not only were several thousand survivors walking around in the horrific destruction and death immediately after the blast, but today Hiroshima is a thriving modernized city full of life. It is unlikely that all-out nuclear war in our day would destroy the earth. For sure, it wouldn’t be a picnic for maybe 20 years afterward, but total annihilation of humanity? Unlikely.

The most formidable threat to the earth is a thing we call natural disasters. Man has no way to create the destructive powers of natural disasters and is powerless against them for the most part. Yet, so far, earth has shown restraint in annihilating itself. Of course, environmentalist claim that man’s abuse of nature causes natural disasters. On the one hand, Silent Spring announced the dawning of man’s ability to destroy himself, while on the other hand, he causes natural disasters that have obviously been around since the beginning of creation. Environmentalism and the total inability of man (total depravity) go hand-in-glove. On the one hand, secular scientists like to promote the idea of a very, very old earth unlike religious zealots who tout the idea of a very young earth, yet, nature in its immeasurable powers hasn’t managed to destroy itself or man in more than a billion years. But yet, supposedly, the end is near because of man and the only way of saving mankind is submitting our misguided notion of freedom to the all-knowing elitists.

Past all of that, the Bible is clear on how life as we presently know it comes to an end, and how.

Why do people believe in the environmental movement? Why do factual arguments fall on deaf ears? Answer: because regardless of commonsense facts, like many other things people believe, it’s what they want to believe. The Bible states that people have a propensity towards living by DESIRES. Unfortunately, for the most part, people are desire-driven. This is what drives me absolutely nuts when I am watching Fox News. They have these ideologues on in order to be “fair and balanced.” Regardless of black and white facts, these people answer with totally bankrupt reasoning. Why? Their thinking and reasoning is desire-driven; it’s what they want to believe.

Why do they want to believe it? Answer: fear. Government in general and elitists in particular offer a safety net. People who fear individualism think you stand or fall on your own. It’s a lack of self-confidence, and the total depravity of man ideology rejects self-confidence altogether. People want to play in the sandbox of life, but they want mommy watching from the kitchen window. They don’t trust the goodness of man to help them in times of need, they trust the elitists. Besides, government has the power to take from greedy individuals and give it to whomever might need it…you. Government elitists are Robinhood; they take from the evil rich people and give to the poor. The Bible says to work with your hands so you can give to people in need.

Truth is whatever your fears and desires say it is. Facts don’t determine truth; individual desires determine truth. And your truth along with your bankrupt self-esteem needs a cheerleader; a hero, really, an image in the form of a person. Yes, your argument isn’t facts, it is those great people of the present and past who confirm your beliefs. They are the monuments of what you believe.

Nancy Appleton #fundie whale.to

In the late nineteenth century, Louis Pasteur's "germ theory" became the medical paradigm, the controlling medical idea, for the Western world. In its simplest form, the germ theory proposes that the body is sterile and that germs from the air cause disease. The medical community started to look for the right pill to kill off the germ. This concept became ingrained into medicine and medical research. Most research goes to looking for the right pill for a specific disease.

If new ideas concerning the cause of disease do not fit into this theory that airborne germs cause disease and the answer to illness is finding the right pill to cure the disease, then these new ideas fall on deaf ears. Any paradigm, or group of ideas, is difficult to break into if the new ideas do not add to the original ideas.

The billion dollar pharmaceutical industry has taken away some of the symptoms and pain but has not found the answer to many infectious and most all degenerative diseases. In the U. S., in spite of all the money, research, and volunteer hours spent, all major degenerative diseases are increasing per 100,000. Diabetes is increasing at an alarming rate. Infectious diseases are also on the rise. Every year, old symptoms are given new names-names like Herpes, AIDS, Epstein-Barr virus, Candida Albicans, chronic fatigue syndrome, environmental illness, and fibromyalgia - to make them appear to be the work of new germs. People live in hope that soon a magic pill will be found. Unless we turn this nonsense around, the list will only grow in the future. The medical community and the individual must start looking at what is causing the illness rather than how to cure the illness.

The responsibility for health has been taken away from the individual. If germs from the air cause disease then the medical community must find the answer. The individual is not responsible. What can we do to stop germs from the air getting in our mouths and our whole body? According to the germ theory, we can do nothing for a cure or to stop the cause of disease. There are always germs in the air. We are breathing in these germs right now. Some of us get sick and some of us do not get sick. For some of us who do get sick, the cold lingers for days. Others of us seem to get well very fast. It seems a more logical explanation is that germs are allowed to cause problems in our body when we do not have a strong immune system.

In primitive villages today there are very few degenerative diseases but it they are coming. As sugar and other processed foods arrive and people move into the cities, where lives become distressful, due to crime, pollution, drugs, and poor living conditions, degenerative disease becomes prevalent. When people do get symptoms, they believes that pills and modern technology will heal them. Medical clinics pop up in the cities to help "cure" people with magic pills. They do not understand that they are creating this mess themselves.

In order for germs and disease not to become a problem in our body, we need to take responsibility back for our health. There are parts of our twentieth century life style that could be causing us to suppress our immune systems. What we eat, think, say, do, and feel can affect our immune system, positively or negatively. If we eat whole foods, do not let stress become distress, not let negative thoughts become a problem, and exercise, then our immune system will be able to function well and germs will not be able to become a problem in our body. Stop doing to the body what you did to make it sick and the body will heal itself. Detoxify the body, give it the nutrients it needs and the body will be able to defend us against infectious and degenerative diseases.

staffonmod #conspiracy #transphobia #ableism #wingnut reddit.com

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"Signing Off Some Steam"

Why are we witnessing so many highly distracting new hires by the ASL, (American Sign Language) with all to most, presenting as flaming liberal transgenders, who also oddly, are trained stage actors, many whom are actually revolting (that demon possessed Lib look), and by far, more prominently positioned than the speaker, being forced on us? What exactly are the Commie plotters up to with this? I think I know.

Another question, how much is this costing local, state and federal governments, "we the people," to pay for this distracting mime clown show? Seems it all began with the Covida 19 show.

Do you know, these stage acting mimes of the ASL's, need their own 'hearing interpreter' who sits in front of them 'signing?' WTH, why not just use that person, like they used to? But the socialist way, why pay for one when two paychecks can now be cut. When did this start and how can we stop it? I've tried to explain to my highly educated sons, that this 'type' interpreter is a new phenomenon, and I know, nefarious on some level. We've always had 'signers,' at church, for special news bulletins, and political dignitary speeches. But, non assuming, almost in the shadows, or in a small virtual block off to the side of the TV screen. Now, they are the full attention spokesperson. and I stare in wonderment.

Look at all the Gov's press meetings. Dems and Repubs, legislature must have been passed in some Dem earmark and now, governors and involved informed citizens must bear thei punishment, as these nut cases are forced on all of us. They are not your regular certified American Sigh Language Interpreter, but raving leftest perverts and trained stage actors.

Here's DiBlassio's stage actor ASL, a long haired far leftest, who gyrates like his pants are on fire, with odd and distracting extreme facial antics. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cdWzgFCV7M

Minn Gov Walz's ASL is a man woman, shaved head something, with over the top bizarre faces, and arms always flailing. Nic Patko. She has her own fan club. https://www.twincities.com/2020/06/06/meet-nic-zapko-her-face-and-hands-explain-gov-tim-walzs-words-to-the-deaf/

Kentucky and Virginia has their own 'internet famous and trending ASL's,' https://www.kens5.com/article/news/local/were-trying-to-get-the-message-out-to-everyone-asl-interpreter-keeps-kentuckys-deaf-hard-of-hearing-informed-on-covid-19/417-b7172c7c-d504-4a1b-bc5d-214540d4b7e0

One of the latest and worst with 'WTH' antics is crazy Chaz protectorate Gov Islee. His Guy actually bounces as he relays to the .1%. They must try to out-stage their niche genre. https://legalinsurrection.com/2020/06/washington-state-governor-jay-inslee-unaware-of-anarchists-taking-over-part-of-seattle/

One of the latest and worst with 'WTH' antics is crazy Chaz protectorate Gov Islee. His Guy actually bounces as he relays to the .1%. They must try to outstage their niche genre. https://legalinsurrection.com/2020/06/washington-state-governor-jay-inslee-unaware-of-anarchists-taking-over-part-of-seattle/

Last but not least is Governor Cuomo's Certified ASL Interpreter, he is actually a Ukrainian, and Professor, and admits his gig with Cuomo has bought him a sizable NY home, Arkady Belozosky https://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/news/politics/albany/2020/05/14/who-is-andrew-cuomos-sign-language-interpreter/5188884002/

I don't doubt for a moment, this is purposeful and another evil ginned up ploy to bring 'WTH' confusion to the TV viewing public. I will admit this, I stop listening to the actual words these politicians are pontificating, and turn full focus to their 'mimes.' (they do have that mime weird aura, you can't deny.) Yeah, and they're winning, because we are not paying attention to the critical Governor mandates, rules and loss of liberties they are expounding upon our 'deaf ears,'

Whitney Ellenby, “Autism Uncensored: Pulling Back The Curtains” #ableism #psycho washingtonpost.com

(Remember Judith Newman and her book “To Siri With Love”, where talking about how she would like to have her autistic son castrated is far from the worst thing she does, while completely assured of her own self-righteousness, and yet got praised by the neurotypical critics and public? By all accounts, this book is even worse. Far worse.)

Bystanders were horrified. But my son has autism, and I was desperate.

What I did to help my 5-year-old autistic son overcome his intense fear of indoor spaces might not have been right or even safe. Doctors didn’t recommend it. The people who witnessed it were appalled, understandably. I don’t suggest this for others.

I could have been more patient with conventional methods, but I wasn’t. I am not certified in restraining children, though doctors say anyone attempting what I did should be. They would also recommend a much slower approach.

I am writing this because I hope to educate people about the burden families face when their autistic children have tantrums in public spaces, so next time you witness such a struggle you don’t immediately resort to blaming the parents. I’m also reaching out to fellow parents in pain to remind them to cast off shame, because I believe nothing is more important than getting your autistic children out into the world.
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It was a desperate time. Nothing else had worked for Zack — flashcards, photos, play therapy. gradual exposure to feared indoor spaces. That is how, very much against his will, I ended up physically dragging Zack into Verizon Center (now Capital One Arena) one day 10 years ago to see his favorite character, Elmo, perform as part of a “Sesame Street Live!” show.

There is nothing anyone could have said that would have convinced me my son was anything other than precious and worthy of the extreme measures I intended to take to save him from a life entrapped by autistic phobias.

My mind-set that day: If I can get him through this without either of us getting physically hurt, his fear of this place will be behind him for good. He will reset his association with this arena, and it will no longer be frightening. I believe this deeply, but getting him over the hurdle is terrifying.
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‘I have this thing called autism’: A boy’s eloquent message to his fourth-grade classmates

We enter Verizon Center, and the moment the exterior door closes behind us, Zack reels back and plunges toward it, trying frantically to get back outside. At 50 pounds, his furious strength is a troubling match for mine. He is a thoroughbred of resistance.

My usually buoyant child is slamming his fists and clawing at the metal door’s push bar. I quickly seize him by the shoulders and pry his fingers from the bar as he jerks his head back in a sudden motion. His skull smashes into my chin, and I taste the metallic taint of my own blood.

I give up trying to pry his fingers away, wrap both arms tightly around his torso and yank him back fiercely. We both tumble to the floor. Zack momentarily escapes my grip and scrambles back toward the door, but I leap on top of him, pinning his entire body flat to the ground. We are still in the vestibule.
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This was a mistake, too ambitious, I think to myself. Everything is happening too quickly.

Breathlessly, I pivot myself to secure Zack’s entire body between my thighs as I clamp down tightly and interlock my feet to prevent him from breaking free. Zack is shrieking at an alarmingly high pitch, but I keep heaving and dragging us both, inch by dreadful inch, closer to the show’s main entrance area, which we are separated from by a red curtain. I can hear voices around us.

“Hey, lady! Your kid obviously doesn’t want to go to the show!”

An icy shock sprints down my back, and I reflexively arch and look around wildly. Someone has just thrown their soda at me.

No, I’m not giving up.

Suddenly, I feel an imaginary cloak descend and slowly envelop me. These are the moments I’ve been dreading, but also building toward, and I don this invisible armor, now impervious to ridicule because I don’t care what anyone thinks. My singular focus is getting Zack where he needs to be: inside the main area, looking at Elmo. The show has already begun inside, and I know Elmo is on the stage.
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Okay, get in his head now, talk back to his thoughts. Keep it simple.

“Zack, you are doing it! I know you’re afraid, but all you have to do is stay here, you’re already doing it, you’ve already won. Just stay and watch, sit and watch, that’s it. You did it. You’re doing it. You did it!” A simple and repetitive mantra to penetrate the panic and break through the force field.

In a now recovered and controlled voice, I loudly announce, “My son has autism and he’s terrified. I’m working with him to get his fears under control.”

A manager strides toward us, summoned to calm the explosive scene.

“Miss, I’m afraid this is too disruptive to the other patrons to let this continue, you’ll have to leave.” No response. Repeat with emphasis. “Miss, you are creating a public disturbance, and I need to escort you and your child out of the auditorium right now.”
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“No,” I respond calmly without looking up. “I’m not going anywhere. I’m a paying customer too, and I have a right to be here, and so does my autistic son.”

Suddenly, from the far reaches of my mind, the legal jargon jettisons to the surface. What was that ADA language about the right of disabled people to access public facilities? That they have a right not be discriminated against because of their disability, a right to reasonable accommodations to access public venues. My son is not legally required to enter the auditorium quietly. He’s allowed to enter on his own disabled terms. I am his reasonable accommodation.

Zack will ride in on me.

Okay, one more push forward with Zack squeezed between my legs, and that curtain that separates the hallway where we are and the seated auditorium is within arm’s reach. Once the curtain is pulled back, he will see all the children in their seats, and he will see Elmo on the stage. But I am on the floor and I can’t reach the curtain.
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I quickly gesture with my hand to the woman guarding the entrance to please pull back that curtain so my son can finally see inside and glimpse the purpose behind the long, bitter altercation. I need her to act quickly. She tries a few times to reach my son with chirpy words that fall on deaf ears.

“LADY, he’s got AUTISM, please just pull back the curtain!” I hiss.

She wordlessly pulls back the plush red velvet in a single swoop to reveal a bright-red, singing caricature on a large stage, clearly visible even from our long distance. I quickly point Zack in his direction and exclaim, “There’s ELMO! Elmo is singing! Look, Zack, it’s Elmo!”

Zack’s eyes catch hold of Elmo, and suddenly he’s too stunned to scream or speak, his hysteria abruptly interrupted by the sight of a familiar friend. Transfixed by the furry creature, Zack sits still and stares intently.
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I quickly move to slide him further along the floor, closer to the cushioned seats. The rigidness in Zack’s body gives way as he relaxes, a literal crossover to the other side.

Zack is as smooth and malleable as liquid as he sits upright, almost unaware of his own physical existence and wholly locked in on Elmo. I calmly walk him to his seat. The past and future are of no consequence; for him, there is only the present.

As I gaze around the auditorium, Zack is indistinguishable from his peers. In these precious moments I can savor the reality that Zack has succeeded in the greatest challenge of his life — overriding his intense phobia of indoor spaces — long enough to access something beloved.

It took 36 minutes and 45 seconds. And, yes, it was worth it.

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It was the first in a series of exposures to crowded public places for Zack and me. His transition at the Verizon Center allowed him to enjoy the Elmo show, and also return repeatedly to that auditorium without fear, because he replaced his previous negative association with a positive one. For Zack, the gradual exposure approach was not effective. What worked for him was a single, traumatic episode in which he could grasp the purpose of the exposure and feel good about it.
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I spoke with his doctor afterward, and he confirmed that by refusing to allow Zack to escape the place he feared, I broke the pattern of negative reinforcement and allowed him to “reset the record.” I also learned that, as a last resort, in a controlled way and only after years of therapy, a licensed behavioral clinician might have physically restrained Zack to force him to confront his fears, had he not responded to more gradual methods.

In the past, when I’d retreated home with him during a tantrum, I was unintentionally reinforcing his phobia. But the doctor made it clear to me he would not recommend this method for any child unless all other methods had been exhausted, and the child was able to handle it without causing harm to himself or others.

For us, the Elmo success paved the way for outings to other indoor places he feared — Disney World, movie theaters, airplanes, the Baltimore Aquarium. Each exposure required less time for him to acclimate. We found that while Zack was initially confused and frightened, he always adjusted. Over time, he became less fearful of all indoor places. He also gained self-esteem once he realized he was conquering his fears and accessing more of the world. And in possibly his biggest win, his overall demeanor became as calm and predictable as his perception of life itself.

Ellenby is a lawyer, writer and mother based in Montgomery County. This piece was adapted from her upcoming book, “Autism Uncensored: Pulling Back the Curtain,” which details her struggles and triumphs with her son’s autism.

Mike King #conspiracy #fundie realhistorychannel.org

Now -- it has become personal!

Got a text from my cousin yesterday indicating that his dad, age 90, was just diagnosed with the big bad Coronavirus / COVID-19 while in a rehab center to strengthen his legs. "Damn cuz! Couldn't youse guys just work with the old man on a treadmill at home?" -- I texted back.

But that wasn't the worst of it. Due to the center's lock-down / no visitation decree (here) issued three weeks ago, Uncle Joe has essentially (in my view) been kidnapped. Widower-ed just 8 months ago, he remains isolated with no end in sight. Repeated phone calls to his room go unanswered and the staff claims that he has been "sleeping a lot" (sleep, or sedation?) Most (actually all) of my family / extended family members are normies. So, as expected, my very plausible theory (not an accusation) that "the fix is in" to slow-kill the old man and then list him as a CV-19 statistic fell on deaf ears and empty heads.

Now, it just so happens that the father of one of my few true friends (because he is awake like me) -- is also interned at the assisted living sector of this same facility. Calling his dad is also out of the question because he has partial dementia. Nonetheless, it has been very painful for my friend and his two sisters to not be able to see him regularly. In his case, there has been no CV diagnosis -- but it wouldn't surprise me if he too becomes "infected" later on.

As clearly explained in my 2016 booklet, "The Morphine Genocide," both the Medical Mafia and the Federal Government conspire to kill off as many sick and elderly patients before their time as they possibly can. For the broke-ass government, every lethally-injected senior represents one less monthly SS payment to come up with and no more Medicare expense. For the medical ghouls, an early death protects them from the little known Medicare reimbursement penalties associated with the high annual repeat-patient rates of folks over 80 years of age. In short, members of our ageing population are worth more dead than they are alive. And the absurd mass-mania over COVID-19 provides the necessary cover and pretext needed to kill more patients than ever before -- and without any pain-in-the-ass family members present to keep an eye on Gramps.

This new isolation-killing opportunity represents a "two-fer" for the PRC (Predatory Ruling Class). It's not only good for the bottom line, but it's a great way to keep the mass hysteria going by padding the COVID-19 "death toll." Bastards! I'm so angry now, I want to go to that center, pound on the door and rush past the gang of ghouls in white coats. But what would that actually accomplish? Nothing, except land me in prison on charges of "terrorism"-- as it already has for a fellow New Jerseyan (here) who pretended to cough on a normie supermarket commissar who had snapped at him for violating the "social distancing" rule of "6 feet."

--- "6," eh? As in, Satan? Probably --- just like the 6.6 million unemployed reported in numerous headlines just the other day (here). The villains who hatched this plague-plot truly are devils!

We're trying to remain optimistic here -- hoping and praying that Trump truly has won control over this power play and that a greater good will come out of this necessary play-along with Bill Gates' evil conspiracy which, I fear, may claim the life of my favorite uncle, very soon. As for ye, my beloved readers -- especially those among you a bit "long-in-the-tooth" as they say -- PLEASE, unless you are suffering from some truly dire health issue with threat of imminent complications -- stay the 'F' out of any western nation's hospitals and rehab centers until CoronaMania passes --- and even afterwards.

For that matter, even "youse younger guys" are not safe from being kidnapped and force-vaccinated / force-quarantined by the heartless, soulless Ghouls-in-Gowns crapped out by the Godless medical schools over the past 30 years or so.

Brian Niemeier #fundie brianniemeier.com

[On a letter by Julien Bertrand about traditional Catholicism vs the “chasm of nihilism” with drugs, alcohol, and pornography]

Reason to ban porn #878.995: It serves as a distraction and artificial release valve that keeps men from taking action to make their and other's lives better.

[...]

The government-sanctioned persecution of white men, the Vatican II generation's abject failure to hand on the faith, and the Church-assisted invasion of the West are three catastrophic crises which the hierarchy remains deafeningly silent on.

These aren't just political matters. All of these evils are combining into a perfect storm that's crippling the Church in the US, Canada, and Western Europe.

God bless Julien Bertrand and the letter's cosigners. He's probably right that their call for our wayward shepherds to actually tend their flock will fall on deaf ears--this time.

But what if the bishops received a hundred more letters just like it? How about a thousand?

It's also worth noting that the letter's main author belongs to Generation Y. His example tends to support the position often advanced here that Ys who manage to overcome their learned helplessness can rise to become capable leaders.

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Prophet Shamiso Kanyama, Leanmore Mutero, Tonderai Muswere, Michael Muchengeti, Manasa Mutero & Nicholas Mutero #fundie guardian.ng

Five members of the same family were charged with the murder of a prophet who had been called to their their home in the village of Mazonde, Zimbabwe to help them cleanse their house of evil spirits.

According to local newspaper, Zed 24 News, the accused family identified as Leanmore Mutero, Tonderai Muswere, Michael Muchengeti, Manasa Mutero and Nicholas Mutero, appeared at the High Court in Harare facing a murder charge for participating in the death of self-professed Prophet Shamiso Kanyama, who accidentally died during a healing ceremony.

Pastor Kanyama had reportedly asked his followers to bury him alive so that he could summon more cleansing powers to heal the family that had been plagued by mysterious deaths.

Zed 24 News reports that High Court Justice Owen Tagu heard how on that day, the late pastor had been invited to attend the home in the Muzarabani district, which is situated along the Mozambique-Zimbabwe border, by their priest, Zvidzai Muchengeti.

The five men had requested the priest to help them clean their home of evil spirits, because it was causing mysterious deaths in their family.

Responding to their request to perform a healing ceremony, Kanyama had ordered his followers to dig a grave and bury him alive because that was the way he summoned more healing powers to ward off evil spirits. However, the plan backfired on the prophet when instead of being resurrected as he supposed, the men dug up the grave again to find him dead.

Kanyama helped to dig his own grave before praying and jumping inside, Father Zvidzai, who has turned State witness, told the High Court. He continued that after laying face down in the grave, he ordered his followers to start covering him with soil.

“He pegged a grave-shaped pit in front of my hut and asked for help to dig the pit,” Zvidzai continued. “Deceased requested to be buried alive so that he would gain power to drive away the evil forces.”

Fearing for the life of the prophet as the men were in the process of filling the grave, he requested the men to stop what they were doing, Joseph Taderera told Justice Tagu.

However, they ignored his pleas when Kanyama urged them to continue the process of burying him alive, stating that he would rise from the grave unharmed.

“I warned the men about the danger of their actions, but my advice fell on deaf ears because Kanyama shouted, telling me that I am disturbing his angels, and urged them to continue filling the grave, saying that he would later come out alive,” Taderera said.

JesusChristRep #fundie

i wouldnt exactly say demons help you...more like blind you and feed your already presiposed rebelious sin nature and angstyness towards God with many sugared thoughts of hatred and lies to which you easyily buy into them because yourself and demons are both on the same side both in the same kingdom of darkness. see the thing is i dont fight with you...i fight with the demons who would keep your eyes blind and your ears deaf to the Truth of God and His Word... its not about me against you...its about you against God and me against your masters throught he power of Christ... i am very open minded, however only to God =D