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TRUE Calculusism & Doctorism & Lawyerism & Yudaism = Law-of-oNe Religions = Nazism

TRUE Christianity & Islam & Zen Buddhism & ALL Nature Religions = Law-of-Zer0 Religions = Egalitarianism

What RELIGION are YOU?

“Science without Religion is lame; whereas Religion without Science is blind.” – Albert Einstein

"Religion without Science is without-a-doubt st00pid but Science without the 'Creator(s)' goes bEy0nd rEtArdEd, which that "rEtArdEd" then EASILY qualifies as Closed System INFINITY!" - Old Toad Proverb

"If the blind lead the blind, both will fall into the ditch." - Luke 6:39 & Matthew 15:14

"Compassion (aka: Perfect Love -or- Logical Love) & Passion (aka: Perfect Lust -or-Logical Lust) combined forms Open System COMMON SENSE and Common Sense always sources from a logical Heart; whereas Love & Lust combined forms Closed System MORALS and Morals always source from an illogical Asshole." - Old Toad Proverb


The Law-of-oNe's GOD has "INFINITE LOVE" for its FOLLOWERS (see: Georg Cantor's PROOF of Infinite degrees of Infinite), and, from that:

IF - "all YOU need is LOVE" - THEN you ARE a NAZI!

IF - "you ARE a NAZI" - THEN you ARE also a PRACTITIONER of YUDAISM!

IF - "you ARE a Practitioner of Yudaism" - THEN you ARE a YEW/YUDA!


The Law-of-Zer0's GOD has "Infinite + 1" (aka: OPEN System) COMPASSION for its FOLLOWERS.

Love = EVIL-as-LUST

Compassion = RIGHTEOUS-as-FUCK!

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Friends
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"FUCK!" = 42

F = 6
U = 21
C = 3
K = 11
! = 1

6 + 21 + 3 + 11 + 1 = 42

OPEN System 13 String Kabbalah (aka: Pyramid of the Universe):

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OPEN System 42 String Kabbalah (aka: Diamond of the Universe):

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“No ToE (Theory of Everything) is possibly VALID if it can't/doesn't explain Girls/Tits, relative to the Boy/Prick, at the SAME TIME as COMPLETELY explaining the Universe.” - Horny Toad Proverb (aka: Ode 2 George Carlin)

“If you can’t explain it simply, you don’t understand it well enough.” - Albert Einstein (see: Occam’s Razor)

"eVerYthinG's Refractal, Inversely." (Open System LAW of eVerYthinG) - Old Toad Proverb

ALL CalculusTurd's & Doctors & Lawyers & Yews/Yudas = ASSHOLE/sea-eWe-in-tea NAZIS! It's NATURAL ORDER for THEM, especially since ALL were FORMED out-of the Law-of-oNe, thus, since that which creates, only recreates, then that which is FORMED by the Law-of-oNe is CONTROLLED ABSOLUTE by the Law-of-oNe.

“When Calculus was asked about Futile, Calculus replied: “ALL re$i$tance is Futile; $uccumb or eWe $hall be a$$imilated (aka: CalculusTurd’s Closed System Theory of “eVerYthinG i$ Complicated”). Whereas when Zer0 was asked about Futile, Zer0 replied: “The oDDs dictate that kNot EvEn n0thing (aka: Zer0) is Futile, so qUesTion eVerYthinG 2 find the trUth your$elf, 2 include qUesTioning n0thing/Zer0 itself; and ALWAY$ be sure 2 qUesTion eVerYthinG all 5-ways 2 $un-day: inside/within, outside/without, above/super, under/sub, and kN0where." (Open System Law of 'Question eVerYthinG, ABSOLUTE, to include Questioning Your$elf AND Questioning Absolute/God/SourCe'; aka: Law of 5). - Old Toad Proverb

The Doctors are on that List above because they were formed by the Lawyers (aka: SATAN) in 202 AD and since "that which creates ONLY recreates", then ANYTHING that "Satan" (aka: the Lawyers) CREATES will be just as eViL as its CREATOR. That's why the Doctors are eViL, it's INHERENT in their CRAFT, just as the SAME eViL is INHERENT in the Religion known as Yudaism but most peeps don't know that Yudaism is the SOLE SOURCE of POLITICS, with FULL BACKING from Single Verse Closed System Numerical Math and NOW Calculus.

"A patriot to the politics of government is a traitor to the People of the World." - Old Toad Proverb

"Nationalism (aka: Nazism) is an infantile disease; it's the measles of mankind." - Albert Einstein

"Peace CANNOT be kept NOR achieved by FORCE; Peace can ONLY be achieved AND kept THRU UNDERSTANDING." - Albert Einstein (requoted by Toad)

Enjoy TEOTWAEKI (The End of the World as eWe kNew/kN0w IT)! flip

And so it rebegins ... AGAIN ... .. .

"Oh n0! kN0t again?" - Petunia (see: Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy)

Ribbit

Ps: I see the 'idiots' didn't realize WHO it was that just got through CALLING for a Worldwide Military coups d'état to go down (see: my Military coups d'état PUBLIC NOTICE post here on GLP) and, from it, the 'idiots' obviously didn't catch that I happen to CONTROL ALL MILITARY's ON THIS ROCK, especially given MY 'unique' Military BACKGROUND/HISTORY! It's the POWER the true BLACK KNIGHT possesses, that the other Knights do NOT possess, but Revelations warned EVERYONE to CONVERT before it's TOO LATE.

It's now 2 LATE! chuckle

Adrian Ferent #crackpot #fundie vixra.org

“I am the first who explained Religion with Science, Mathematics and Physics in mankind history. Religion and Quantum Evolution” Adrian Ferent “Evolution: each time we are born, we are born with higher Consciousness, because Consciousness is a function of time” Adrian Ferent “Evolution: in time the Consciousness has a higher number of Qubits” Adrian Ferent “Evolution: in time the Consciousness has a higher number of Quantum Consciousness states” Adrian Ferent “We need 5000 years to Evolve, 70 years or one life is not enough” Adrian Ferent “If we are born with the same Consciousness, after a time t1 we will have the same Consciousness, which is not true, this means we are born with different Consciousness, this means it is Evolution” Adrian Ferent “In the Consciousness function, N is the number of Quantum Consciousness states” Adrian Ferent “In the Consciousness function, N is the number of Qubits. The Consciousness operates on its Qubits” Adrian Ferent “When you die, the highest probability is that you will not go to hell or heaven” Adrian Ferent “I am the first who discovered Ferent Quantum Evolution theory (FQE) based on Consciousness Evolution; I am the first who discovered the Soul equation; I am the first who discovered that Matter was first, not God I am the first who discovered the Spiritual Universe in Ferent Quantum Gravity theory” Adrian Ferent “For me Religion is Science, for the rest of the scientists Religion is Occultism” Adrian Ferent “The Future of Science: the Ignorant scientists must be replaced by new Wise Scientists” Adrian Ferent I am the first who discovered a Quantum Evolution theory (FQE) based on Quantum Consciousness evolution, a Quantum Gravity theory (Ferent Quantum Gravity - FQG), I explained the Electron and the Electron charge… “I am the first who explained Religion with Science, Mathematics and Physics in mankind history” Adrian Ferent All Religion says we are born with the same consciousness, but after a while some people are bad, some people are good and they go to Heaven in on life! If the children die they will go to Heaven, because of their consciousness. What is the truth? The Consciousness function: t – the time between 0 and T N0 – the initial number of quantum consciousness states N – the final number of quantum consciousness states T – the value of the human soul cycle (5000 years), for Christians, Muslims, Atheists (70 years) “Evolution: in time the Consciousness has a higher number of Quantum Consciousness states” Adrian Ferent Another way to look at this function: “In the Consciousness function, N is the number of Qubits. The Consciousness operates on its Qubits” Adrian Ferent The Christians, the Muslims, the Atheists … who say we have one life are wrong because if N0 = 0, T =70 years, for example after 30 years people will have the same consciousness, which is not true. My theory is a proof for reincarnation, Evolution! About Consciousness function: “At each time t, each of us is at a different level of consciousness” Adrian Ferent “Evolution: in time the Consciousness has a higher number of Qubits” Adrian Ferent Consciousness is a function of time! “If we are born with the same Consciousness after a time t1, we will have the same Consciousness, which is not true, this means we are born with different Consciousness, this means it is Evolution” Adrian Ferent Religion without Evolution is Communism, this means we are born with the same Consciousness; but we do not have the same Consciousness. “We need 5000 years to Evolve, 70 years or one life is not enough” Adrian Ferent Jesus answered him, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God.” “Evolution means after couple lives all of us will attain the same Consciousness, this means it is Reincarnation” Adrian Ferent “Evolution: each time we are born, we are born with higher Consciousness, because Consciousness is a function of time” Adrian Ferent “When you die, the highest probability is that you will not go to hell or heaven” Adrian Ferent “I am the first who discovered Ferent Quantum Evolution theory (FQE) based on Consciousness Evolution; I am the first who discovered the Soul equation; I am the first who discovered that Matter was first, not God I am the first who discovered the Spiritual Universe in Ferent Quantum Gravity theory” Adrian Ferent “What you learned from your professors, from your books, from the greatest scientists, from clerics… about Dark Matter, Matter and God is wrong” Adrian Ferent “For me Religion is Science, for the rest of the scientists Religion is Occultism” Adrian Ferent “The Future of Science: the Ignorant scientists must be replaced by new Wise Scientists” Adrian Ferent 1. I am the first who explained Religion with Science, Mathematics and Physics in mankind history 2. I am the first who discovered what Evolution is: each time we are born, we are born with higher Consciousness, because Consciousness is a function of time 3. I am the first who discovered what Evolution is: in time the Consciousness has a higher number of Quantum Consciousness states 4. I am the first who discovered what Evolution is: in time the Consciousness has a higher number of Qubits 5. I am the first who discovered that the Consciousness operates on its Qubits 6. I am the first who discovered that if we are born with the same Consciousness after a time t1, we will have the same Consciousness, which is not true, this means we are born with different Consciousness, this means it is Evolution 7. I am the first who discovered that when you die, the highest probability is that you will not go to hell or heaven 8. I am the first who discovered that we need 5000 years to Evolve, 70 years or one life is not enough 9. I am the first who discovered Ferent Quantum Evolution theory (FQE) based on Consciousness Evolution; I am the first who discovered the Soul equation; I am the first who discovered that Matter was first, not God. I am the first who discovered the Spiritual Universe in Ferent Quantum Gravity theory 10. I am the first who discovered that what you learned from your professors, from your books, from the greatest scientists, from clerics… about Dark Matter, Matter and God is wrong 11. I am the first who explained that for me Religion is Science, for the rest of the scientists Religion is Occultism 12. I am the first who discovered the Future of Science: the Ignorant scientists must be replaced by new Wise Scientists

Karl Priest #fundie insectman.us

(Emphasis original)
Get Saved

Telling the Truth (Or: “Karl, are you angry or hateful?”)

(Others have said it well by analogy:

If you were driving fast toward a washed out bridge just around a blind curve, would you want me to flag you down?

If you had terminal cancer and I knew of a cure, would you want me to share it with you?

I am keenly aware that, “This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.” I Tim. 1:15

The following are not my words, but the author says it exactly the way I feel. The article is condensed.)

Karl

What people often refer to as “love” is sinful compromise. God's love is unconditional, i.e., God doesn't love us for who we are, but because of Who He is. Amen! Likewise, I don't love people for who they are, but because of who God has made me in Christ Jesus. We like people for their good qualities, we love them for their faults.

The sin-loving world wants Christians to remain silent concerning sin. However, God has commanded each believer to expose all works of darkness. Ephesians 5:11, “And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.” If you love someone, you tell them the truth, especially if not telling them the truth will harm them. The unsaved often get upset when a “Bible-thumper” witnesses the Gospel to them, but it is only out of a heart of concern and love, that we WARN others of God's wrath's against unrepentant sinners and of coming judgment in the Lake of Fire. With all the suffering in this present world, it should not be difficult to grasp the reality of eternal punishment in the fires of Hell. The question is, do you believe that the Bible is God's Word? If you do, then you cannot deny the existence of eternal punishment for the wicked, i.e., the unsaved.

To proclaim the Word of God in today's apostate, sin-loving, Christ-rejecting, Bible-denying, American society requires “tough love.” Most people don't want to hear the truth, which is why so many so-called “Christian” ministers and authors rarely touch upon the topics of sin, God's wrath, judgment, hellfire or eternal punishment. There can be no salvation without the Law of God which shows men their guilt of sin. Yes, love induces kindness and compassion, but it also induces taking an uncompromising Biblical stand against sin and evil.

Jesus didn't use sweet words to show Peter the error in his thinking. Instead Jesus sharply rebuked Peter by saying, “Get thee behind me Satan” (Matthew 16:23). Jesus scathed the unsaved Pharisees with the harshest words of all, calling them “whited sepulchres ... full with dead men's bones” (Matthew 23:27). The Apostle Paul was not very gentle with Simon the sorcerer, when he told him, “Thy money perish with thee” (Acts 8:20). Simon had mistakenly thought he could buy God's power, as many lying televangelists would still have us believe today.

In 1st Corinthians 16:22 the Apostle Paul sternly warned, “If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema Maranatha.” Anathema meaning “cursed,” and Maranatha meaning “the Lord is coming.” Paul said, “LET HIM BE CURSED, THE LORD JESUS IS COMING!” Does this sound like the words of the greatest missionary who ever lived? Yes, it certainly is! Somehow people today have accepted the false idea that love never offends anyone. Nothing could be further from the truth! When you love someone, you tell them the truth for their own good. A loving friend will tell you the truth if it's something that you need to know.

We are taught in the Scriptures that light and darkness cannot co-exist. That is, the righteous and the wicked will never live in harmony . . .

"An unjust man is an abomination to the just: and he that is upright in the way is abomination to the wicked." —Proverbs 29:27

Mankind is inherently evil and destined to destruction. When Adam sinned, he opened the floodgate for sin to enter into the world. All the education, reformation and rehabilitation available cannot rid the world of lust, greed and hate. The truth is that we are sinners in need of salvation. Thankfully, Jesus Christ paid our sin debt, so that we could be redeemed back to God.

It is only because I love God and people that I proclaim the truth. I do not enjoy offending anyone, but I realize that the truth offends people.

I do in fact genuinely love people, no matter who they may be. If God can love a big sinner like me, then I can love anyone, even my enemies. Jesus died for all mankind. People often mistake a Christian's love for hate, and some professed believers do hate, sinfully so; but proclaiming the truth is the most noble and loving thing a person can do. A strict parent is often viewed as being “unfair” or a “tyrant” for making and enforcing rules with their teenager. The truth is that the parent loves that child and is trying to prepare them for life ahead. The child may feel that the parent hates them at the time, but it certainly is not any form of hatred. It is in fact genuine love.

Sometimes we might not tell someone the truth, if it will unnecessarily hurt them, because we love them and don't believe they need to know. At other times we may tell someone the truth, because we love them and they need to know. The latter is true concerning this website, i.e., my ministry.

I want to share with you the truth about many things, as I continue to learn and wake-up myself. This is love. My heart longs for you to know the truth and for your life to be changed for God. Have you been born-again?

What you do with the truth is your decision, I can only point you in the direction that I believe is correct. Liberty is the right to choose. Freedom is the result of making the right decisions. So many people are woefully ignorant concerning the truth (some sincerely, others by choice).

My desire is for others to receive Jesus as the Christ (i.e., Savior) and in so doing obtain the gift of eternal life. We are all GUILTY sinners, deserving of Hell for breaking God's holy Law. Thankfully, Jesus paid our sin debt. We are saved by HIS RIGHTEOUSNESS, i.e., the righteousness of Jesus Christ, and not by our own hypocritical self-righteousness. God will forgive anyone who acknowledges their guilt of sin and comes to God the Father by way of faith in the redeeming blood sacrifice of His Son, Jesus.

From: http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/please_give_me_your_heart.htm

See “What is Your Excuse for not Getting Saved?”.

See “The Love Gospel” at “The Common Thread (addendum)”.

For those who send me hate mail:

And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them. (Romans 1:28-32 KJB) And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment. (Hebrews 9:27 KJB)

I AM PART OF THE FELLOWSHIP OF THE UNASHAMED

By Dr. Bob Moorehead
I am part of the fellowship of the unashamed. The dye has been cast. The decision has been made. I have stepped over the line. I won't look back, let up, slow down or back away.

My past is redeemed, my present makes sense, my future is secure. I'm finished and done with selfish living, sight walking, small planning, "smooth knees," colorless dreams, tamed visions, mundane talking, cheap giving and dwarfed goals.

I no longer need pre-eminence, prosperity, position, promotions, plaudits, pity or popularity. I don't have to be right, first, tops, recognized, praised, regarded or rewarded. I live now by faith, lean on His presence, walk with His patience, live by prayer and labor with His power.

My face is set; my gait is sure; my goal is heaven; my road is narrow; my way is rough, my companions are few; my Guide is reliable; my mission is clear. I cannot be bought, compromised, detoured, lured away, turned back, deluded or delayed. I will not flinch in the face of sacrifice, hesitate in the presence of the adversary, negotiate at the table of the enemy, ponder at the pool of popularity or meander in the maze of mediocrity because I have been sustained by Christ.

I won't give up, shut up, let up, until I have stayed up, stored up, prayed up, paid up, spoken up for the cause of Christ. I am a disciple of Jesus Christ. I must go till all know, and work till He stops me. And when He comes for His own, He will have no problem recognizing me. My banner is clear.

Spiritualist's National Union #fundie snu.org.uk

How is Spiritualism a Science?

Science is the intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behaviour of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment.

This study may lead to finding the cause and the effect of the nature of the experiments which support a real and rational conclusion through evidence. The conclusions reached may not be final and must remain open to the light of new evidence, which may compound or disprove the theory. This is true of all sciences. Therefore Spiritualism in its’ scientific aspect is open to continuous research in all areas.

Applying logical thought and reason to Spiritualism helps us to realise that there is a Science at work. It is a science in which we can all take part by giving consideration in the simplest of terms, or by more complex study.

Natural Law:
Everything that occurs operates within ‘Natural Law’. In terms of observing and considering anything that happens we can be sure of two things, there will be a ‘cause’ that creates an ‘effect’. Natural laws apply to everything, including, the non-physical attributes of our selves. Our mind, thoughts and emotions can cause us to act and react in words or actions and may, for example, have an effect on others. It can be seen that ‘a cause’ results in ‘an effect’, and that effect can be the cause of another occurrence and another effect, and so on. This helps us realise that Natural Laws control everything that happens and that spirit communication is not dependant on religion or philosophy. Mediumship is a science with controls (natural laws) that determine how the information is transferred and the process is repeatable, providing evidence of survival of the person’s intelligence beyond physical death.

Psychic ability:
The word Psyche is from the Greek language meaning ‘Soul’, hence Psychic is ‘of the Soul’. We, as physical beings, have a soul so we all have psychic abilities to some degree, however, it must be borne in mind that our abilities vary across many activities. A psychic can sense and interpret information about a person or object, but cannot, communicate with the Spirit World.

Mediumship:
Mediumship is the transfer of information from the spirit of a deceased person via a medium to a recipient. A medium is psychic but is also capable of communicating with people in the Spirit World through the further development of their psychic faculties. Communication with the Spirit World using mediumship is a means of enabling Spirit People, some of whom are our family and friends, to communicate with us to ensure us that they:

Have survived physical death,
Have retained their personality, character, mind, memories, etc.
Have continued to learn and develop in the Spirit World

Mediums cannot call up a particular Spirit person to communicate with us because, like ourselves, they can choose whether to communicate or not. Mediums do not all develop every form of Mediumship. Each medium’s abilities and qualities vary, because everyone is individual in their personal attributes. ( Read about: Guidance for a Private Sitting...)

Mental Mediumship:
Mental Mediumship involves the medium perceiving information via their psychic senses from a spirit person. This can manifest in several ways; they may receive visual (clairvoyance), auditory (clairaudience) or sensory information (clairsentience) including smell or taste. On occasion mediums simply know something by virtue of the information having been received in their mind without any form of sensory manifestation.

Spiritual Healing:
Spiritual Healing involves the use of healing energies being directed by Spirit people, via a medium, to assist a physical person to become healthier at all levels of being.

Physical Mediumship:
Physical mediumship is the ability of the Spirit people utilising the energy of a medium and others present, to create effects that can be witnessed by everyone present, whether they are mediumistic or not. This type of mediumship was much researched in the 19th century by various people, including eminent scientists such as Sir Oliver Lodge, Sir William Fletcher Barrett and Sir William Crookes. The experiments that they carried out with mediums convinced them of the authenticity of the phenomena.

Modern Research:
In January 1991, A group comprising seven scientists, who were psychical researchers, and seven mediums was set up as a research group. It was titled Psychical Research Involving Selected Mediums (PRISM), and the research group was named ‘Council of PRISM).

The group developed and carried out a series of scientific experiments under strict protocol to determine the amount of information given by mediums to recipients being acceptable or not, with regulated requirements in place concerning the mediums and audience. Statistical analysis showed that the ‘intended recipients’ acceptance levels were higher than non recipients, the odds against chance being a million to one.

PRISM maintain they have a repeatable experiment, providing the protocol is adhered to and good mediums are used. Their results were submitted to the Society for Psychical Research, and were published in their journal (JSPR).

21st Century thoughts:
Modern scientific theory continues to expand and encompass more that just the physical aspects of our Universe. It has moved from looking at the origins and vastness of our Universe to looking at the smallest particles that hold our physical world together through the scientific principles of 'Quantum Theory'. Today there are many who see answers to the unseen worlds and the 'divine' natural law present in the resulting research and equally those who would disagree with the 'divine' presence and express it merely as natural law.

Science and Religion may always be uncomfortable bed fellows and for the Spiritualist, we accept that we will one day have some further answers and evidence, may be not in this phase of life but certainly at some point in the next.

Alistair #fundie gracecentered.com

Okay as a scientist I am of course very interested in how sciece relates to the Bible. For quite some time now I have wrestled with the idea of the Laws of Science. I have now come this conclusion: there is no such thing as the Laws of Science. That the Laws of Science are a philosophic invention rather than a scientific fact.

So, let me explain. Take an object like a bunch of keys in your hand and let go. What happens? It falls to the ground. Why? Laws of Science says because there is a magnet in the earth called gravity that pulls all objects down. I think it is because God made it drop and if He had not made it drop it would have hovered about in the air.

In other words everything that happens in the scientific realm happens not because of the Laws of Science but by the direct action of God. The Laws of Science were invented by philosophers to explain away God. Look at Psalm 104:14 to find out why grass grows in your garden.

David J. Stewart #fundie jesus-is-savior.com

Baha'i is straight from the pits of hell. They are a dangerous false religion because they claim to be "Christian," but they certainly are not. Baha'is claim to believe that Jesus is the Saviour They acknowledge Christ's virgin birth. They believe in the resurrection of Christ. They believe in the second coming and the rapture. So what is wrong about this increasingly popular religion?

All Religions One

To begin with, they teach that all religions are one in the same. Here what you'll find at www.bahai.org...

"All divine Revelations come from the same Source; thus, the religions identified with them are in essence one. They differ in the measure of their teachings and particularly in their social laws and principles, appropriate to the times in which they appeared. The successive divine Revelations over the centuries have provided the spiritual force and laws for the advancement of civilization. Abraham, Krishna, Zoroaster, Moses, Buddha, Jesus, and Muhammad were all divine Messengers; the Báb and Baha'u'llah are the most recent. The coming of Baha'u'llah represents the fulfillment of this centuries’ long process of progressive revelation and of the expectations inspired by previous divine Messengers for the ultimate unity of peoples and peace among nations. -SOURCE

Buddha? Zoroaster? Krishna?...divine messengers? You left out Muhammad. The Word of God declares that salvation can ONLY be found through Jesus Christ. Acts 4:10-12 clearly teaches that there is NO OTHER NAME by which we can be saved,"...that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole. This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner. Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved." Not one of the men recognized as "divine messengers" by the Baha'is taught that Jesus was the ONLY Way to heaven. They were FALSE prophets!!!

Also please notice what the ultimate goal of the Baha'i faith is at the end of the quote given above..."the ultimate unity of peoples and peace among nations." Although that goal "sounds" mighty noble, is it in agreement with the Word of God? Let's see, the Word of God teaches..."Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel? And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you" -2nd Corinthians 6:14-17. The teachings of Baha'i are NOT based upon the Truth of God's Word; therefore, we are to separate from them because they are unbelievers. It is to NO surprise that such a one-world minded religion would be very popular with the New Age movement of our day, and it surely is.

The truth is that religion is the worst thing to ever happen to this sin-cursed world. Salvation is NOT found in a religion, but in a Person--The Lord Jesus Christ (Acts 16:31). According to Matthew 7:14, only a very small handful of people will ever make it into heaven. Do you know why? Simply because so many people have religion without Truth, Churchianity without Christianity. You need to be born again my friend (John 3:3). This world is wicked and needs Jesus. "And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness." -1st John 5:19. "

Baha'is Deny the Sin Nature of Man

The Baha'i religion denies the sin nature of man...

"In the Bahá'í view, the purpose of this life on earth is for each individual to develop the spiritual and moral qualities that lie at the core of his or her nature. Bahá'u'lláh referred to the human being as a "mine rich in gems of inestimable value." These "gems" or qualities can be "mined" or developed only when a person turns to God." -SOURCE

"Develop the spiritual and moral qualities?" You've got to be kidding me? The Word of God teaches that we are ALL sinners, dirty-rotten hell-deserving sinners!!! Romans 3:10-12 declares, "As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one." Also, Romans 3:23, "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;" You and I are wicked sinners. Don't compare yourself to the criminals you hear about on the news, or perhaps you might become self-righteous. Compare yourself to the Word of God, and you'll come up looking like a sinner. We have ALL broken God's commands at times. We are ALL sinners by nature. Romans 5:12 teaches that we are ALL born with a sin-nature, not with "spiritual and moral qualities." "Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:" -Romans 5:12.

Sinful Human Desires are Not Evil or Bad

Baha'is foolishly disregard the Biblical teaching that ALL men are sinners, inherently evil by nature (Jeremiah 17:9; Romans 3:10,23). Jesus said in Matthew 5:28 that for a man to even lust after a woman is considered adultery. Jesus taught that the sins of the heart are just as wicked in God's eyes as sins of the flesh. Here is what Baha'is teach...

"In contrast to a number of other religious doctrines and philosophies, the Bahá'í Faith does not teach that the physical desires of human beings are "evil" or "bad." Everything in God's creation is regarded as essentially and fundamentally good. In fact, the very purpose of the human body and its physical faculties is to serve as a proper vehicle for the development of the soul. As the energies of the body are gradually brought under the conscious control of the soul, they become instruments for the expression of spiritual qualities. It is only undisciplined physical passions that become causes of harm, and hinder spiritual progress." -SOURCE

Baha'i is full of lies. The Devil works to DESENSITIZE people concerning the wickedness of sin. In contrast, the Word of God makes us very aware of sin (which is why the world hates the Bible so much, John 3:20). Just as Wiccans, Baha'is do not recognize wrong doing as being a sin. "Sin" is a Biblical term that implies judgment from a Divine God. Deceitfully, Baha'is call themselves "Christians." No one can be a Biblical Christian who does not accept the plain Scriptural teaching that all men are sinful, under the condemnation of the Law until their sins are forgiven in Christ Jesus.

Ezekiel 14:3 reads, "Son of man, these men have set up their idols in their heart..." You see friend, idolatry is in the heart. The reason why Catholics bow to their idols is because they are idolaters in their heart. Jesus said that from the HEART comes all wickedness..."For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders..." -Mark 7:21. This is why education, reformation, and religion will never tame the savage beast of mankind . . . because all of these intellectual vehicles appeal to the mind of man, NOT to his heart. Salvation is of the heart..."For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness..." -Romans 10:10.

Baha'is Worship a False god

Although Baha'is recognize the existence of one god, their god is NOT the God of the Bible. Baha'is teach the same New Age garbage of enlightenment and self-improvement. Take a look at their official website and you realize quickly that Baha'i is NOT Christian. Any knowledgeable Bible-believer knows that Allah is NOT God, he is a mythical character. The Islamic Muslims deny that Jesus ever died on the cross. They dent that Jesus was the Son of God. Muslims deny Christ, which makes them "antichrists" according to 1st John 2:22, "Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son." Read the following statement from the official website of Baha'i...

"Although we may have different concepts of God's nature, although we may pray to Him in different languages and call Him by different names--Allah or Yahweh, God or Brahma--nevertheless, we are speaking about the same unique Being." -SOURCE

Talk about New Age doctrine! Allah is NOT God!!! Allah is the false god of the Muslims. Allah CANNOT be the same God as the Christian God because the Bible proclaims that Jesus Christ is Almighty God (John 1:1-4,14; Revelation 1:8). Jesus is the Son of God according to John 3:16, but Muslims teach from the Koran that God has no Son. Clearly, there can be NO harmony between the Word of God and the Koran. Yet, Baha'is prey upon the ignorance and indifference of today's worldly religious crowd. All over the world people are joining all sorts of wishy-washy religions that have a form of godliness, but deny the existence of an Individual, Personal God. "Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away" -2nd Timothy 3:5. The Devil is homogenizing the world's religions into ONE to prepare the unsaved masses to receive the antichrist when he appears. We often hear about a "one-world religion," but it will more than likely be many religions which have all adapted to the "politically correct" New Age religion. I say "politically correct" because the agenda of our apostate time is to accept everyone in the name of love, while turning a blind-eye to wickedness and doctrinal heresy. It is sinful for believers to unite with the wicked (2nd Corinthians 6:14-17). It is far better to be separated over Truth, than to be united be error. The Word of God is Truth (John 17:17).

Baha'is Deny Jesus Christ as the ONLY Way to Heaven

Baha'is do NOT recognize Jesus Christ as being any greater than Moses, Muhammad or Buddha. The Bible declares that at the NAME OF JESUS shall every knee bow, and NO other name (Philippians 2:10, "That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth."

"There can be little disagreement that human history is strongly influenced by the Founders of the world's great religions. The powerful impact on civilization of Jesus Christ, Buddha, Moses, or Muhammad is seen not only in the cultural forms and value systems which arise from their works and teachings, but is also reflected in the effects that the example of their lives has on humankind." -SOURCE

Did you read that? Baha'is recognize Buddhism as a "great religion." Folks, Buddhism is straight from Hell!!! Buddha was a demonically inspired imposter. New Agers (and Baha'is) teach that there are many roads to "the light," and that no one has a right to criticize or refute someone's else's religious beliefs. Of course, they vehemently deny the Biblical proclamation that Jesus is the ONLY Way to heaven (John 14:6). Listen to Oprah Winfrey deny Jesus Christ for yourself. The Bible proclaims that we are ALL wicked, dirty-rotten sinners deserving of hell. Mankind is born with a SIN-NATURE. The ONLY Way for us to go to heaven is that we must have our sins forgiven. Religion didn't die on the cross for you. Krishna, Buddha, and other FALSE prophets didn't die upon the cross for you. Jesus Christ wasn't just a prophet, He was God Almighty in the flesh (1st Timothy 3:16 -1611 King James Bible).

Angelica Zambrano #fundie christiscoming777.com

THE LOST

The Lord showed me a place where many people were walking to hell. I asked Him, “Lord, how is it that they walk to this place?” He replied, “I will show you.” He showed me a tunnel with many people walking through it. These people were chained from hand to foot. They were dressed in black and carrying a load on their back. Jesus said, “Look Daughter, those people that you see there, those people don’t know Me yet. That which they carry on their backs is sin, but go and tell them to turn their burden over to Me, and I will give them rest; that I am He who forgives all their sins…Daughter, go and tell those people to come to Me, for I await them with open arms, and go tell them that they are walking to this place.”

As I was watching the people walking, I said, “Lord, that person over there is my cousin; that young man is my cousin, Lord, and that young girl coming down is also my cousin; my family is coming to this place!” He replied, “Daughter, they are walking to this place, but go and them where they are walking, go and tell them they are walking to hell. Go and tell them that I have chosen you as my watchman…I have chosen you as my watchman, for it means that you are to tell the truth. You must go and tell all that I have shown you. If you do not speak out and something happens to that person, his blood will be poured over you, but if you go and do as I have told you, then that person has an account with me. If the person does not repent, then the responsibility resting upon you will be lifted, for the account will rest upon that person and his blood will not be poured over you. (Ezekiel 3:18)”

MICHAEL JACKSON IN HELL

Jesus told me that many famous people were walking to that place, famous and important people. Take for example, Michael Jackson. This man was famous all over the world but he was a satanist. Although many people may not see it that way, but it is the truth. This man had satanic covenants: He came to agreement with the devil in order to achieve fame and attract many fans.

Those steps that he performed, that’s the way I saw demons walk while tormenting people in hell. They would slide backward and not move forward, while they shout; enjoying the anguish they impose upon the people. Let me tell you that Michael Jackson is in hell. The Lord showed him to me after Michael died. He let me see Michael Jackson tormented in flames. I cried to Jesus, “Why?” It wasn’t easy to see how this man was being tormented and how he would scream. Anyone who listens to Michael Jackson’s songs or sings them or who is a fan of Michael Jackson, I warn you that satan is trapping you in his web so that you will end up in hell. Right now, renounce it in the name of Jesus! Jesus wants to set you free, so that you will not be lost.

The Lord said, “Daughter, there are also people who know Me, that are walking to this place.” I asked, “Lord, how can people who know You also come here?” He replied, “That person who has left My ways and that person who is living a double life.” He started showing me people who were walking to Hell. They were tied from their hands to their feet.

GO & TELL THEM

They each wore a white garment, but it was torn, stained and wrinkled. Jesus said, “Daughter, see how My people have walked away from Me. Daughter, I want to tell you that I am not coming for these people. I am coming for a holy people, ready, without blemish, without wrinkle and without defilement…Go and tell them to return to the old paths.” (Eph. 5:26-27) I started to see many of my uncles and many other people who had walked away from the Lord’s ways. “Go and tell them that I am waiting for them, to surrender their loads to Me, and I will give them rest.” Jesus was weeping, “Daughter, they are coming this way. Go and tell your uncles; go and tell your relatives that they are coming this way! Daughter, many will not believe you, but I am your faithful witness, I am your faithful witness. I will never leave you. Even if they do not believe you, Daughter, go and tell them the truth, for I am with you. I will also show you, Daughter, how people arrive at this place.”

We went to a tunnel where there were a multitude of people falling into the abyss. Not 1 thousand, not 2 thousand, but as many as the sand of the sea, countless. They were falling by the second, like handfuls of sand being thrown down. The souls were falling rapidly. Jesus was weeping, He said, “Daughter, this is how humanity perishes; this is how it is lost!…Daughter, it hurts Me to see how humanity perishes.”

Jesus said, “Demons also hold meetings in this place.” And I said, “Demons hold meetings?” Jesus said, “Yes, Daughter, they meet to plan, to plan what they will do to humanity. They hold daily secret meetings.” And with that, Jesus took me to a cell, where I saw a wooden table with chairs around it. And there were demons – all types of demons. Jesus explained, “Daughter, they are now planning to go and destroy the pastors’ families, the missionaries, the evangelists and all of those who know me. Daughter, they want to destroy them; they have many darts.”

The demons would laugh and mock and say, “Let’s destroy humanity and bring it to this place.” Jesus said, “Go and tell them that I am with them. Tell them to not leave open doors, to leave no place to satan, for satan walks about as a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour.(1st Peter 5:8)” But the Word says, “he walks as”, because the only real Lion, is the Lion of Judah, Jesus Christ of Nazareth(Revelations 5:5)! Jesus said, “Daughter, they especially want to destroy the pastors; family.” I asked, “Why do they want to destroy the pastors’ family?” And Jesus responded, “Because they are in charge of thousands of people that are the sheep of the fold; the sheep of the fold that the Lord has given them. They want these people to return to the world again; to look back and end up in hell…Go and tell the pastors to speak the truth. Go and tell them to preach the truth and to speak everything that I tell them and to never keep to themselves what I tell them!”

JohnR7 #fundie christianforums.com

There are consequences when you break a law. Just how far do you think you can fall without getting hurt? 10, 20, 30 feet? The law of gravity may not "break" your fall, but the ground sure will and it may break you also.

Moral laws are the same as physical laws in that there are consequences. Yet science does not want the moral laws taught to our young people.

Dennis Lopez #fundie dennislopez.com

I recently watched a video posted by a YouTuber by the username of “Truth96130,” that is basically telling people Hell is not real and that it is a lie of the Devil that works for his benefit. Yes, seriously, Truth96130 really believes this. In the video a renowned and once respected Pastor by the name of “Carlton Pearson” claimed that God told him Hell is not real. I watched the entire video and gave it the complete chance to convince me that his claim was true. What it did convince me of is what the Bible had already warned me about, thanks to Jesus. I will demonstrate to you, the reader, with Bible verses that you can go look up yourself (not my philosophy), and the words of Jesus himself, how this claim is a full-fledged doctrine of demons.
“Now the Holy Spirit tells us clearly that in the last times some will turn away from the true faith; they will follow deceptive spirits and teachings that come from demons.” (NLT, 1 Timothy 4:1)

This verse by itself should be sufficient evidence for anyone to see that the “Hell doesn’t exist claim” is a trick of the devil to deceive those who are not strong with the Holy Spirit. The Bible warns us of false doctrines, false Prophets, and false Messiah’s. Did Pastor Carlton test the spirits? Did he pray on it and ask God, Jesus, or the Holy Spirit for confirmation? I don’t think so, and neither did Truth96130. The devil is known for offering people things (sinful things) for instant gratification and happiness. God on the other hand is always patient and long-suffering, doing things at the right place and time. There is usually a lesson learned through a journey before you receive something from the Lord.
“Dear friends, do not believe everyone who claims to speak by the Spirit. You must test them to see if the spirit they have comes from God. For there are many false prophets in the world.” (NLT, 1 John 4:1)

Then you have Jesus telling you himself about hell, are the words of Jesus not sufficient? Truth96130 gave no credit to what Jesus said, and said that Jesus spoke in parables which are not historical events. So only the historical things that Jesus spoke about have value and not parables? Are you kidding me? Jesus was teaching lessons about Heaven and Hell, why would it need to be something that happened? Besides, hypothetically it was happening, people were going to Heaven and Hell after death.
It’s these type of people who cherry pick and choose what is convenient to fit their lifestyles, so that they can continue to do what they know is sinful and not feel convicted of it. They are only tricking themselves, but the worst part is they are trying to take others with them! (See Figure 1)
“So ignore them. They are blind guides leading the blind, and if one blind person guides another, they will both fall into a ditch.” (NLT, Matthew 15:14)

I refuse to let that happen, God ordered us to be the salt & light of the world.
“You are the salt of the earth. But what good is salt if it has lost its flavor? Can you make it salty again? It will be thrown out and trampled underfoot as worthless. “You are the light of the world—like a city on a hilltop that cannot be hidden. No one lights a lamp and then puts it under a basket. Instead, a lamp is placed on a stand, where it gives light to everyone in the house. In the same way, let your good deeds shine out for all to see, so that everyone will praise your heavenly Father.” (NLT, Matthew 5:13-16)

Here is another lesson about Heaven and Hell from Jesus Christ our Lord and savior.
“Jesus also told them other parables. He said, “The Kingdom of Heaven can be illustrated by the story of a king who prepared a great wedding feast for his son. When the banquet was ready, he sent his servants to notify those who were invited. But they all refused to come! “So he sent other servants to tell them, ‘The feast has been prepared. The bulls and fattened cattle have been killed, and everything is ready. Come to the banquet!’ But the guests he had invited ignored them and went their own way, one to his farm, another to his business. Others seized his messengers and insulted them and killed them. “The king was furious, and he sent out his army to destroy the murderers and burn their town. And he said to his servants, ‘the wedding feast is ready, and the guests I invited aren’t worthy of the honor. Now go out to the street corners and invite everyone you see.’ So the servants brought in everyone they could find, good and bad alike, and the banquet hall was filled with guests. “But when the king came in to meet the guests, he noticed a man who wasn’t wearing the proper clothes for a wedding. ‘Friend,’ he asked, ‘how is it that you are here without wedding clothes?’ But the man had no reply. Then the king said to his aides, ‘Bind his hands and feet and throw him into the outer darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.’ “For many are called, but few are chosen.” (NLT, Matthew 22:1-14)

Straight from the mouth of Jesus! This teaching illustrates how God sends his messengers and prophets to invite us to be saved, and to accept his Son, Jesus. We are constantly being invited to Heaven. The Bible is always referring to us (The Church) as the body of Christ and the bride of Christ, which is why this parable is about a wedding banquet for the King’s Son. The King being (God), the Son being (Jesus), the servants being (The Angels, Prophets, and Messengers), and the banquet representing (Heaven). I will let you guess who the invitees are.
Pay attention to the keywords, the servants were sent to notify “those who were invited.” This means not everyone is invited, so where do the uninvited go? I’m pretty sure they go to Hell. Let’s not forget “For many are called, but few are chosen,” that pretty much proves that some are chosen and some are not; meaning, some will go to Heaven and some will not.
Let’s continue on, the initially invited (The Israelites) rejected Jesus as the Messiah, some (The Pharisees) went as far as to kill him. From the beginning of the Bible all the way up to revelations, everyone that God has sent to warn humanity (His Prophets & Messengers) has been murdered or rejected all the way up to Jesus Christ and beyond. That covers the portion of parable talking about the invitees rejecting the invitation and some going as far as to murder the servants. Well, what about the King sending an army to destroy and burn their town?
I am glad you asked, throughout the Bible God turns his back on his people (The Israelites) when they reject him and rebel against him by doing such things as worshiping idols, breaking the commandments, and basically breaking their covenant with him. God removes his protection from them and even goes as far as to send other nations to attack them, as he did with King Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon. (The destruction and burning of the town also represents the end times in revelations). Of course, he was merciful and gave his people ample time to turn away from their sins and repent.
Moving on, the king sending his servants to invite everyone good and bad represents how the sacrificial death of Jesus enables everyone to be able to go to Heaven, without having to perfectly follow the Law of Moses. God knew we wouldn’t be able to do it. The Law of Moses was nothing more than just a long-term lesson to show us that even when facing the penalty of death and similar penalties, we would still break the law. He basically showed us that Humanity cannot govern itself without the help of God. We would need more than Laws, we would need a change of heart, and we would need the Holy Spirit.
Finally, the man not properly dressed illustrates how those that accept Jesus Christ (The Invitation), but continue to live in constant Sin, can lose their salvation. Just because you accept Christ does not mean you are guaranteed to go to Heaven, it’s only the start of your salvation. The Bible doesn’t say to run the race and fight the good fight for nothing. Now, Outer darkness, weeping, gnashing of the teeth, does that sound like Heaven to you? I think Jesus was speaking in a gentle fashion instead of being blunt and giving it to us straight; however, there is scripture which is not so nice, and for a good reason.
“And they will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous will go into eternal life.” (NLT, Matthew 25:46)

Eternal means nonstop, no breaks, forever, everlasting. Some people try to claim it’s just the second death, meaning you don’t get eternal life, but clearly the scriptures say different. You get eternal life, but it’s not the type of eternal life anyone would ever want. This is why God designed this life to be experienced in time. Things in time begin and end. This teaches us what eternity is. That is how just and fair God is.
“They will be punished with eternal destruction, forever separated from the Lord and from his glorious power.” (NLT, 2 Thessalonians 1:9)

If there is no Hell, how can sinners be punished in eternal destruction or separated from the Lord? Where will they go if they can’t go into Heaven?
“Throwing the wicked into the fiery furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.” (NLT, Matthew 13:50)

“If your hand causes you to sin, cut it off. It’s better to enter eternal life with only one hand than to go into the unquenchable fires of hell with two hands.” (NLT, Mark 9:43)

“But there were also false prophets in Israel, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will cleverly teach destructive heresies and even deny the Master who bought them. In this way, they will bring sudden destruction on themselves. Many will follow their evil teaching and shameful immorality. And because of these teachers, the way of truth will be slandered. In their greed they will make up clever lies to get hold of your money. But God condemned them long ago, and their destruction will not be delayed. For God did not spare even the angels who sinned. He threw them into hell, in gloomy pits of darkness, where they are being held until the Day of Judgment.” (NLT, 2 Peter 2:1-4)

That last verse is just blatantly clear that we will all pay for our sins, and that Hell exist, period! It is true that you can pay for your sins on Earth, but only to a certain extent. God knows that we will not be ultimately perfect without sin,
“Not a single person on earth is always good and never sins.” (NLT, Ecclesiastes 7:20)

“As the Scriptures say, “No one is righteous–not even one.” (NLT, Romans 3:10)

But this does not give you the green light to do whatever you want to. God’s mercy, grace, and forgiveness are determined and given accordingly. God knows when you are trying not to sin, compared to when you really don’t care and are trying to fall through the cracks. We should strive to have as little sin as possible, remember God knows what is in our hearts. He can see if your desire is not to sin, but you fall to it not by deliberate will, but by the evil we all inherited from Adam & Eve, there is a difference.

The devil knows this, which is why he uses clever lies to deceive people. Of course he will tell us that our sins are forgiven through Christ, so it doesn’t matter what we do once we accept Jesus, and OH’ yeah by the way, Hell doesn’t exist. That is not what the true Word of God tells us. The “There is no Hell” claim is a doctrine of demons, there is no doubt about it. If Hell isn’t real then why did Jesus go down to Hell for three days to console the spirits that were imprisoned there?

“Christ suffered for our sins once for all time. He never sinned, but he died for sinners to bring you safely home to God. He suffered physical death, but he was raised to life in the Spirit. So he went and preached to the spirits in prison, those who disobeyed God long ago when God waited patiently while Noah was building his boat. Only eight people were saved from drowning in that terrible flood.” (NLT, 1 Peter 3:18-20)

Truth96130 claimed that I am confusing the time of this verse. The verse above clearly states that Jesus went to preach to the spirits in prison (Hell) that disobeyed God during the time of Noah, basically all the people who died in the great flood; which by the way, is historically recorded in every culture around the world. If there is no Hell and I am confusing this verse, which I am obviously not, then why didn’t these same spirits go directly to Heaven? Why does the Bible say they are in prison? Why doesn’t the Bible simply say, “Jesus swung by the Prison (Hell) to bail these Spirits out?” Now let’s say there is no Hell, why are these Spirits in prison? What is this prison?
If you go back to (NLT, 2 Peter 2:1-4) which I mentioned earlier, you will see “For God did not spare even the angels who sinned. He threw them into hell, in gloomy pits of darkness, where they are being held until the Day of Judgment.” Key sentence “where they are being held,” doesn’t that coincide perfectly with the spirits in prison! You know, prison, jail, being held captive, I don’t know about you, but it sure makes sense to me. This is the perfect example of scripture backing up scripture. As the saying goes “the writing is on the wall,” and let’s not forget about the parable of Lazarus and the rich man. (See Figure 2)
And his soul went to the place of the dead. There, in torment, he saw Abraham in the far distance with Lazarus at his side. (NLT, Luke 16:23)

When I mentioned this to Truth96130 his response was, “well that’s just a parable, and it’s not a historical event.” That statement does not in no way, shape, or form prove that Hell is not real, in fact it diverts from the fact that Jesus used a parable to teach a lesson about Hell. Keyword, “lesson,” Let’s look at the definition of the word parable.

Parable –
A short allegorical story designed to illustrate or teach some truth, religious principle, or moral lesson.
A statement or comment that conveys a meaning indirectly by the use of comparison, analogy, or the like.
Well there you go, a parable is designed to teach a lesson of truth. Just because it’s not a historical event does not mean it is not true. I recommend reading the entire chapter of Luke 16. All words out of the mouth of Jesus, let me remind you. Over and over again in the Bible Hell is spoken about, illustrated, and re-cautioned to those that would believe, keyword believe. The Devil would love for people to not believe in Hell, that way people would just live how they feel and do what they want without having to worry about the repercussions.
Finally, Pastor Carlton and Truth96130 argue that God is love and he wouldn’t do these things to us. I mean how could an all loving merciful God send his people to eternal torture, right? Well once again, directly from Bible verses and not my philosophy, I will show you how God is justified in everything he does. He is the genuine holder of truth, he sets the standards, and he uses fair scales, weights, and balances. We would like to believe we know more than God, we would like to believe our ways are just, we would like to believe we can replace his laws with our own, but the truth is God is the Creator and we are the created. God set the laws of the universe, not us. Who are we but mere mortals.
“For just as the heavens are higher than the earth, so my ways are higher than your ways and my thoughts higher than your thoughts.” (NLT, Isaiah 55:9)

Do we really expect to have the same mental capacity as the entity that created us and the Universe? Seriously? If that were the case then why would we even need God at all? We would be just like him, which is the exact claim the devil made before he was found with sin and casted out of Heaven. The devil claimed he would be like the most high.
“I will climb to the highest heavens and be like the Most High.” (NLT, Isaiah 14:14)

The created cannot expect to comprehend and know as the creator.
“How foolish can you be? He is the Potter, and he is certainly greater than you, the clay! Should the created thing say of the one who made it, “He didn’t make me”? Does a jar ever say, “The potter who made me is stupid”?” (NLT, Isaiah 29:16)

Furthermore, as I tried to understand why God would send people to Hell for not meeting his qualifications, I learned some important truths. God has a standard, the one and only true balance of justice, and he will not break it for anyone. He will not be a hypocrite and break his word. Anyone who breaks the law is subject to the consequences, even the Angels.
Example of Truth: Anyone that is truly honest with pure integrity would understand that it is justified for their child to go to prison for murdering someone. Only hypocrites and people without standards would argue different.

People that go to Hell choose to go to Hell. People that go to Heaven choose to go to Heaven. (See Figure 3) God did not make us robots, he gave us self-awareness. I ask the reader, what has more value? A living being that was programmed to be righteous, or one that wasn’t but chose to be and now is? (Causality) There is a reason for everything, which is not just a “saying.” You might not agree with the reason, but who are we to tell God what is and is not fair. I am 100% sure if Jesus Christ disobeyed God, God would have sent him to Hell too.

Another misconception is that it doesn’t bother God to send people to Hell. That is a lie of the devil. The same way it hurts parents to discipline their children with the rod, it devastates our Father to sentence us (his children) to Hell. God does not enjoy this which is why he sacrificed his only Son.
“For God loved the world so much that he gave his one and only Son, so that everyone who believes in him will not perish but have eternal life.” (NLT, John 3:16)

“The Lord isn’t really being slow about his promise, as some people think. No, he is being patient for your sake. He does not want anyone to be destroyed, but wants everyone to repent.” (NLT, 2 Peter 3:9)

There is no excuse, we are warned and given a lifetime to get it right.
Then comes the question? We’ll if God is all loving and merciful then why does he let such suffering happen on Earth? That one is easy. There is suffering on Earth because we have free will to do what we want to, and some of us want to continue to do evil things. Some of us want to follow the devil instead of God. Some of us love sin more than we love our creator.
“And the judgment is based on this fact: God’s light came into the world, but people loved the darkness more than the light, for their actions were evil.” (NLT, John 3:19)

People judge God and they never even get to know him. We’ll what about the good people who have bad things happen to them? Why doesn’t God protect them? First of all, what good people? We are all born evil.
“For I was born a sinner–yes, from the moment my mother conceived me.” (NLT, Psalm 51:5)

We inherited evil from Adam & Eve. We have to be taught to be good. We have the knowledge of good and evil, but without the help of God we will always favor evil. We are self-serving and self-gratifying.
“For they loved human praise more than the praise of God.” (NLT, John 12:43)

Also, remember we are not just facing people with free will that choose to be evil. We are facing our adversary the devil, and we are also facing spiritual battles in the unseen world around us.
“We know that we are children of God and that the world around us is under the control of the evil one.” (NLT, 1 John 5:19)

“Stay alert! Watch out for your great enemy, the devil. He prowls around like a roaring lion, looking for someone to devour.” (NLT 1 Peter 5:8)

“For we are not fighting against flesh-and-blood enemies, but against evil rulers and authorities of the unseen world, against mighty powers in this dark world, and against evil spirits in the heavenly places.” (NLT, Ephesians 6:12)

And that my brother’s and sister’s is why there is pain and suffering in the world. Jesus made it very clear that we will suffer in this world, so why not suffer for him instead? Why not suffer to make it to the pearly gates?
“And all nations will hate you because you are my followers. But everyone who endures to the end will be saved.” (NLT, Matthew 10:22)

“Students are not greater than their teacher, and slaves are not greater than their master. Students are to be like their teacher, and slaves are to be like their master. And since I, the master of the household, have been called the prince of demons, the members of my household will be called by even worse names! (NLT, Matthew 10:24-25)

“Yes, and everyone who wants to live a godly life in Christ Jesus will suffer persecution.” (NLT, 2 Timothy 3:12)

Jesus did not promise life without problems once you start following him. He tells no lies and gives it to us straight. The Gospel of Jesus Christ is not about infinite happiness in this life, but it is about trials and tribulations leading to infinite happiness in the afterlife. Jesus never said we had to be perfect, nor does the Bible. The Bible tells us to turn away from Evil, stride to change; and most importantly, to ask God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit to help us do it. We are incapable of doing it on our own. So make no mistake of misunderstanding that only perfect people make it to Heaven, which is another lie of the devil. Name one person in the Bible, besides Jesus, that didn’t sin. You can’t do it. Do not try to earn your salvation, instead embrace it. Salvation is a gift from God, it is meant to be received and maintained.
“Salvation is not a reward for the good things we have done, so none of us can boast about it.” (NLT, Ephesians 2:9)

Believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God who sacrificed himself on the cross so that we can be forgiven for our sins, become reborn and move forward from there, and know that hell is a real place. Fear the Lord of Heaven’s armies and respect who he is.
“Fear of the LORD is the foundation of true knowledge, but fools despise wisdom and discipline.” (NLT, Proverbs 1:7)

“Fear of the LORD is the foundation of wisdom. Knowledge of the Holy One results in good judgment.” (NLT, Proverbs 9:10)

God can take our mistakes and help us correct them, he can help anyone, anywhere, anytime get back on the course he designed for them. It is never too late to turn to God through Jesus Christ. Simply lift your hands up to God and repeat “Jesus I repent of my sins and I accept you as my Lord and savior, Amen.” Then seek the kingdom first, read the Bible, continue to pray, and always talk to Jesus looking for guidance and answers, and remember we have the Holy Spirit to help us through it all.

“But when the Father sends the Advocate as my representative–that is, the Holy Spirit–he will teach you everything and will remind you of everything I have told you.” (NLT, John 14:26)

“Seek the Kingdom of God above all else, and live righteously, and he will give you everything you need.” (NLT, Matthew 6:33)

I encourage all my readers to fact check me, go look for yourself and make sure that I am not misleading you. Make sure that I am speaking from the lessons of the word of God and not from my own philosophy. Make sure that I am not twisting the word of God. I also invite my readers to comment and share your opinions down below in the comment section. May the Lord of Heaven’s Armies Bless you all!

I am currently reading and quoting from the New Living Translation version of the Bible.

Lady Checkmate #fundie disqus.com

Lady Checkmate's headline: "Atheist's Lies: "Science is their god"

Wrong: God created science. The creation is NEVER greater than the Creator. God is the only living God. They may worship science as their god, but one day they will answer to the only living God, bow before Jesus Christ and declare Him Lord of all. My hope is that they choose Jesus Christ while they can, but it is their decision to make.
It's disappointing because idolatry is a sin and satan is using it to draw many of the lost away. The Holy Bible says the fool has said in his heart there is no God. Science is NOT Truth. It is the opinion of limited men and women with limited knowledge making their best guess based on fallible and limited information, which is why they often use the language: "it is believed", "it seems possible", "more than likely", etc., lol, indicating even the "scientists" recognize their limitations. On the other hand, God is all-knowing, there is NO limit in Him, He created wisdom, knowledge and understanding. In fact, He has calls the wisdom of the world foolishness.
*"Science is measured by the truth ...... science is not a measure of the truth."
Amen. Jesus Christ is the Way, the TRUTH and the Life. And the carnal man CANNOT understand spiritual matters, so he (led by satan) makes up lies in an attempt to understand what he can't due to his carnality.
Christians appreciate science, but we realize it is simply a study, NOT God, doesn't trump God's word and we don't worship it NOR hold man's opinions greater than God's Truth. Put your hope in God, not man. God NEVER fails.

Don't forget to RECOMMEND. Lets get the Truth out so that Light may shine bright in this dark place and Jesus Christ may be glorified.Even if the discussion is closed, please still RECOMMEND.

*Quote is from a Christian brother [she refers to Christian News Network's Amos Moses - click here for exact reference].

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Bert Thompson #fundie discoverymagazine.com

Sometimes you will hear scientists speak of a hypothesis (high-POTH-eh-sis). This means that they have an idea (a "guess") about something, but do not yet have any facts to tell them if their idea is true or false. Sometimes scientists talk about a theory. If something is a theory, that means there are facts which show it might be true. Further testing will settle the matter.

However, if scientists speak of a law in science, they are talking about something which has been shown to be true all the time. In science, a law means there are no exceptions to the rule. The Law of Gravity is one example of this. Everyone knows that gravity holds things down—no exceptions. Gravity is not just a theory, it's a law.

There is another well-known law in science. It is known as the Law of Biogenesis (bye-oh-GEN-uh-sis). This law says two things: (1) living things always come from living things; and (2) living things produce only more living things like themselves.

For example, to get a cow, you must first have a living thing. But, that living thing cannot be a horse, or a donkey, or a whale. It must be a cow. To get a rose, you must have a living rose. To get a dog, you must have a living dog. That is what the Law of Biogenesis says. And remember—there are no exceptions to this scientific law.

Evolution is against the Law of Biogenesis! Evolutionists tell us that living things came from nonliving matter. They also tell us that one kind of animal gave rise to a different kind of animal. Further, evolutionists tell us that this happened over and over again to produce all the millions of animals which have ever existed. But that would break the law!

The Law of Biogenesis is real, and accepted as true by all scientists. Evolution cannot be true, because it is against this law. To have a law there must be a law-giver. Who gave us the Law of Biogenesis? That Law-Giver could only be God.

Troy Lacey and Ken Ham #fundie answersingenesis.org

Atheism Is Religion

Atheists Down Under Are Worried

Do atheists have beliefs? Of course they do!

Atheists believe that matter arose by natural processes. Can they prove this? Not at all!

Atheists believe the universe, all life, the laws of nature, and laws of logic arose by natural processes. Can they prove this? Of course not, but they believe it to be so.

Atheists believe they cease to exist after they die. Can they prove this? No, but they believe this is what happens.

Atheists believe no God exists. Can they prove this? Not at all—it’s their belief.

Merriam-Webster dictionary defines the word religion this way:

1. a : the state of a religious <a nun in her 20th year of religion> b (1) : the service and worship of God or the supernatural (2) : commitment or devotion to religious faith or observance

2: a personal set or institutionalized system of religious attitudes, beliefs, and practices

3: archaic : scrupulous conformity : conscientiousness

4: a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith

Even though he has not labeled himself as such, Bill Nye, for all intents and purposes, is a practicing atheist. Look at this short video clip as I was speaking to him recently at the Ark Encounter where he admitted to believing life arose by natural processes—he has a belief, a religion. Atheists have a “system of belief held to with ardor and faith.” Atheists are very religious people.

Now, in the United States, atheists have conducted a propaganda campaign to try to brainwash the public into believing that people who believe in God are religious, but those who don’t believe in God are not religious. Because of this atheist propaganda, many have been indoctrinated to believe that when secularists get the Bible out of public schools, or crosses and nativity scenes out of public places, they removed religion so the situation could be neutral. However, the reality is that these secularists have imposed their atheistic religion on the schools and culture in general. As Jesus taught: “He who is not with Me is against Me, and he who does not gather with Me scatters.” (Luke 11:23) There is no neutral position. No person has no religion—everyone has a religion, and ultimately it comes down to those who are for the true God and those who are not.

ATHEISTS HAVE CONDUCTED A PROPAGANDA CAMPAIGN TO TRY TO BRAINWASH THE PUBLIC INTO BELIEVING THAT PEOPLE WHO BELIEVE IN GOD ARE RELIGIOUS, BUT THOSE WHO DON’T BELIEVE IN GOD ARE NOT RELIGIOUS.

Now atheists from Down Under have been desperately trying to convince people in Australia that they have no religion.

Tuesday, August 9, is Census Night in Australia (though people have several weeks to complete it). Every five years, all Australian citizens are required to fill out the census form. As in America, census results help the government figure out where and how government funds are allocated. These allocations can seriously impact Christian organizations such as Christian schools, charities, chaplain offices, and other religiously affiliated organizations.

Of particular concern is question 19, which is the only optional question on the census form. This question is the religious identity question. Several different options are available, including six Christian denominations as well as Islam, Hinduism, and Buddhism. There is also an “other” category to mark, and then additional information needs to be supplied in a text box. But what makes this question stand out is that “no religion” is the first option to choose from. Now this is absurd, because no one can claim they have no religion! So that option should be totally deleted from the census form

However, according to the Canberra Declaration newsletter,1 the reason why this choice occurs first is that the Atheist Foundation of Australia lobbied for it three years ago. It’s possible that some people may select this box simply because it appears first, especially if they are hurrying through the form or if at first glance they don’t see their own religious affiliation listed. This would be detrimental to religious organizations, as government subsidies may be cut or diminished based on the answer to this question. But a religious affiliation is a totally different matter from claiming one has no religion anyway! As well as listing various denominations, Islam, and so on, atheism should be listed as the religion (as opposed to “no religion”) for those who choose this affiliation.

Much Campaigning about Nothing

In fact this potential cutting of government funding may be just the hope of the Atheist Foundation. In the weeks leading up to tomorrow’s census, the Atheist Foundation of Australia launched a “Mark 'No religion'” website and have been conducting an advertising campaign to encourage people to do so. Some of the tactics appear aimed at making “unsure” or “undecided” people use this option. There has also been an attempt by the Atheist Foundation of Australia to encourage teens and children to be counted as “no religion,”2 claiming that only adults can validly claim a religion. Of course, part of the atheist campaign is to try to indoctrinate young people in particular that atheists don’t have a religion. But young people need to understand that atheism is a religion—and it’s a religion of purposelessness, meaninglessness, and hopelessness.

The “other” box on this form has also been gaining momentum among some segment of the population. Apparently there has been an increase in the number of “Jedi” in the past few censuses.3 Ironically the aforementioned Atheist Foundation is trying to get people to quit claiming Jedi as a religion, as they claim it will falsely inflate the undefined religion category at the expense of their false idea of no religion. Apparently “the Force” is not strong with them.

ATHEISM IS A RELIGION. IT’S A RELIGION WHICH EXPLAINS LIFE WITHOUT GOD.

But when you really stop to think about it, why is there such a push by the Atheist Foundation of Australia for marking the “no religion” box? To get the “no religion” box put at the very top seems like it should be satisfaction enough; but no, an all-out media blitz has been (and still is) underway. As we’ve pointed out many times before, atheism is a religion. It’s a religion which explains life without God. As mentioned here (and outlined above), one definition of religion is “a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith.” Yes, atheism qualifies as a religion!

Furthermore, why should the Atheist Foundation even care? In an atheistic worldview, when you die that’s it (or as Bill Nye said at the Ark Encounter, “When you die you’re done”). There is no ultimate basis for morality, for life, or even for logic. And although Bill Nye falsely claims that he arrived at his belief in atheism (and life by natural processes) based on the evidence,4 why should he trust his senses anyway? What gives him the basis for accepting what he perceives as reality? What makes his interpretation of the evidence right and a creation scientist’s wrong?

Ultimately, to the Atheist Foundation of Australia, what difference should it make if one set of chemicals wrapped in a blanket of skin believes something different from another? In their worldview, our brains are just doing what the chemicals and electric impulses in them direct us to. They can’t even fall back on the relative morality of “what society decides goes” argument: at the last census (2011) only 22.3% claimed “no religion” as their option on the form.5 They also have to at least recognize that many of the religious organizations their strategy may impact are those that, even in an atheistic worldview, do good work. Homeless shelters, Christian-based hospitals, Red Cross centers, charities, and church food pantries all might be negatively impacted. So what does this show about their relative morality? It’s relatively worthless! And really what does it all matter in an ultimately fatalistic worldview?

David Chase Taylor #god-complex truthernews.wordpress.com

[Ok, this is long, but this entire piece left me in hysterics.]

GERMANY, Undisclosed Location —After months of deliberation and with great trepidation, I begrudgingly announce that I am the so-called Messiah. I do not reveal this for fame or gain but rather out of self-preservation for it’s far less likely that the Geneva-based CIA will assassinate me prior to the end of the Maya Calendar in 2017 once I announce that I am the Messiah.

The last thing the CIA wants to do is martyr the whistle-blower journalist who exposed CIA Headquarters beneath Lake Geneva right after he declares he is the so-called ‘Chosen One’ (i.e., the Messiah). It is imperative to note that I am not holy or a saint by any means. Like Jesus before me, I am just a man. I just decided to speak truth to power and the rest is history.

Although the decision to become a peace activist was mine and mine alone, the following evidence suggests that my role as the Messiah was predetermined long before I ever set foot on planet Earth. Regardless, I am actively trying to save humanity from extinction and that’s all that really matters.

KEY VOCABULARY:

a) MESSIAH
The term ‘Messiah’ was likely derived from the words ‘Miss’ and ‘Eye’ for the Messiah, who will ultimately be responsible for saving the World, destroying the Greco-Roman Empire (see below) and snuffing out the 13 Bloodlines of Man would somehow be ‘missed’ by the ‘All Seeing Eye’ of the C-‘EYE’-A (i.e., Central Intelligence Agency). That is to say that despite knowing what year he was born in and exactly what he looked like, the Messiah would inexplicably be overlooked by the CIA before it was too late, hence the name.

b) ANTI-CHRIST
It is imperative to note that the Messiah is the Anti-Christ to the Greco-Roman Empire while the Anti-Christ is the Messiah or Savior to the Greco-Roman Empire. Therefore, the Anti-Christ and the Messiah are two different terms for the same person. That being said, since the Greco-Roman Empire knew that the Messiah would come to save the World at the end of the Age, they created the Anti-Christ-known as Barack Hussein Obama who was spawned to be the Savior of the Greco-Romans by in essence being a de-facto World dictator who oversees the genocide of hunanity under the guise of a global biological pandemic. However, as correctly prophesized, Obama was ultimately destroyed (i.e., removed from power) by the Messiah.

c) SAVIOR
The terms ‘Messiah’ and ‘Savior’ have become synonymous namely due to the story of Jesus Christ depicted within the Holy Bible. Although the Biblical narrative states that Jesus came to save mankind from ‘sin’, the real Messiah came to save the human race from extinction which is currently planned under the guise of a global biological pandemic.

d) JESUS
Although Jesus Christ allegedly existed 2,000+ years ago, he holds the title of Messiah and has been deemed the ‘Savior’ of mankind. The reality is that mankind didn’t need a Savior back then like they do now. Therefore, the story of Jesus depicted in the Holy Bible is the story of the future Messiah which has now been identified as David Chase Taylor. Aside from all the physical traits and similarities, the trials and tribulations suffered by Jesus are reflected in the life of David Chase Taylor. That is to say that the persecution allegedly suffered by Jesus has been inflicted upon Taylor tenfold who has been subjected to unspeakable tortures and persecution over the last 7-years in his quest to save humanity from extinction.

1. YEAR OF BIRTH
Theosophists believed that the Maitreya (i.e., the Messiah) would physically manifest on Earth sometime in the 21st century, becoming the Messiah expected for generations in virtually all major religions. Esoteric artist and author Benjamin Creme stated that the Maitreya (i.e., the Messiah) communicated to him that he had decided to return to Earth prior to the year 2025. Creme later stated that the Maitreya materialized in a physical body early in 1977. In other words, the Messiah was born in 1977 and is therefore roughly 40-years of age. Although Shia Muslims believe that “[The Messiah] will not come in an odd year” such as 1977, the Islamic calendar is odd when the Gregorian calendar is even (i.e., the year of 2017 equates to the year 1438 within the Islamic calendar). Therefore, the odd year of 1977 equates to the even year of 1398 within the Islamic calendar. According to the account of the Messiah by the Mahdi, “…he [the Messiah] is forty years old”. David Chase Taylor was born in Fredrikstad, Norway on April 15, 1977, and is currently 40-years of age.

2. DAY OF BIRTH
The date of April 15, 2014, is known in esoteric astronomy as ‘Day Zero’ for it marks the first Blood Moon in a tetrad of Blood Moons which officially marks the beginning of the end of the so-called Maya Calendar in 2017. David Chase Taylor was born exactly 37-years prior on April 15, 1977, and is currently the only author, futurist, journalist and philosopher in the World who has correctly identified and prophesied the end of the Maya Calendar in 2017, the start of the Apocalypse. Taylor’s cat Nike, which doubles as his Guardian Angel, is coincidentally also born on April 15th. Lastly, the official symbol of Earth is a ‘+’ symbol superimposed upon an ‘O’ symbol (see above photo) which numerically equates to “4/15” as in April 15th (i.e., Day Zero). The number ‘4’ was formerly a ‘+’ symbol within the Roman Score (i.e., the original alphabet) while the ‘O’ symbol is the 15th letter within the English alphabet. The Earth symbol doubles as crosshairs for April 15th is when the Greco-Roman Empire and her Babylonian System become targeted for extinction which is evidently why Taylor and his cat were born on this historic date.

3. NAME OF DAVID
In Judaism, the Messiah is depicted as a human leader, physically descended from the paternal Davidic line through King David and King Solomon. That is to say, despite being touted as a divine being sent from Heaven, the Messiah is a mere human. The Messiah is referred to in Judaism as Messiah ben David, meaning “Messiah, son of David”. The early Church believed that the life of David foreshadowed the life of Christ in that: a) both were born in Bethlehem, b) David was a shepherd while Jesus Christ was known as the Good Shepherd, c) David chose five stones to slay Goliath while Jesus suffered five Holy wounds, d) David became King and Jesus started his ministry at age 30, and e) many of the Davidic Psalms are typical of the future Messiah. In the Holy Bible, verse Luke 2:4 states that “And Joseph also went up from Galilee, out of the city of Nazareth, into Judaea, unto the city of David, which is called Bethlehem; (because he was of the house and lineage of David), while Luke 2:11 states that, “For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord”. In short, the city, lineage and name of David is intimately associated with the Savior and Messiah—Jesus Christ. David Chase Taylor was officially named ‘David’ by his parents in Fredrikstad, Norway on April 15, 1977.

4. LIVES IN GERMANY
In a March 11, 2015, op-ed published by the Israel National News, Chen Ben-Eliyahu called on Israel to nuke Germany “when the Messiah comes“. Ben-Eliyahu stated that Israel must reverse the Final Solution, claiming that, “Twenty, thirty atomic bombs on Berlin, Munich, Hamburg, Nuremberg, Cologne, Frankfurt, Stuttgart, Dresden, Dortmund and so on to assure the job gets done. And the land will be quiet for a thousand years”. The Messiah, David Chase Taylor, moved from Switzerland to Germany on February 8, 2017, and has exposed the plot by the Geneva-based CIA to stage a nuclear holocaust in Germany in order to assassinate him and trigger World Wat III as depicted in the latest Truther.org report from August 1, 2017, entitled ‘Germany’ Impending Nuclear Holocaust‘. Needless to say, Ben-Eliyahu is an intelligence operative who is privy to the CIA’s plot to: a) assassinate the Messiah Taylor once after he moves to Germany, and b) destroy Europe and the World for that matter prior to the end of the Maya Calendar in 2017.

5. SAVIOR OF THE WORLD
Due to roughly 50,000 timely Truther.org terror alerts and investigative reports, David Chase Taylor has been able to effectively thwart scores of bio-chemical attacks, nuclear terror attacks and World War III which were planned by the Geneva-based CIA under the guise an Obama dictatorship. The term ‘Savior‘ is defined as “one that saves from danger or destruction” which is exactly what Taylor has done, starting with the foiled Super Bowl XLV nuclear terror plot on February 6, 2011, as foretold by his first book entitled ‘The Nuclear Bible‘ (2011). In short, the CIA plans to wipe out humanity in the aftermath of nuclear terror attacks via a global biologic pandemic which Taylor exposed in his second book entitled ‘The Bio-Terror Bible‘ (2012). Because Taylor blew the whistle on CIA Headquarters beneath Lake Geneva in Switzerland, virtually none of the plots or wars he has identified and exposed come to fruition. That’s because the Swiss CIA is deathly afraid of being exposed on a global level if and when the Truther.org reports go viral post-attack.

6. ANSWERING THE CALL AT 30
The Holy Bible states in Luke 3:23 that “…Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli“. In short, Biblical scholars agree that age 30 is the when Jesus officially began his ministry. David Chase Taylor coincidentally also answered his calling at the age of 30, founding Truther.org in San Diego, California on November 11, 2007.

7. DEFEATING ANTI-CHRIST OBAMA
In Islamic eschatology, Jesus (i.e., the Messiah) will return to Earth at the End of Times along with the Mahdi and defeat al-Masih ad-Dajjal, otherwise known as “False Messiah” or the “Antichrist”. In the Truther.org report entitled ‘Obama 666‘ (2016), David Chase Taylor revealed that Barack Hussein Obama is in fact the Anti-Christ as depicted in the Holy Bible. With the swearing-in of Donald J. Trump as President of the United States on January 20, 2017, the Anti-Christ Obama was effectively defeated and removed from power. Although the CIA is desperately trying to stage an Obama military coup d’état to resurrect the fallen Anti-Christ as depicted in the Truther.org report entitled “10 Reason Why an Obama Military Coup is Imminent“, it will not come to fruition so long as Taylor is alive.

8. VIRTUALLY IDENTICAL LOOKS
Based off countless depictions and renditions of Jesus Christ from the Middle Ages to present day, the man known as Jesus Christ of Nazareth looks virtually identical to the Messiah, David Chase Taylor. Exactly how people knew what the Messiah would look like is not yet know, but those who dabble in magic and witchcraft may have had dreams or visions of what the future Messiah would look like. Due to the use of hallucinogenic drugs such as acid, magic mushrooms and peyote, people can be granted a look into the future which may be the case in respect to the future looks of the Messiah.

9. BLUE EYES
Due to David Chase Taylor’s Germanic and Irish ancestry, he has blue eyes. The notion that the Messiah will have blue eyes is found within ancient literature and foreshadowed in scores of films and paintings. In ‘The Archko Volume‘, which contains official court documents from the days of Jesus, it claims that Jesus had blue eyes and golden hair. In the chapter entitled “Gamaliel’s Interview”, it states the following in respect to the appearance of concerning Jesus (Yeshua): “I asked him to describe this person to me, so that I might know him if I should meet him. He said: ‘If you ever meet him [Yeshua] you will know him. While he is nothing but a man, there is something about him that distinguishes him from every other man..His eyes are large and a soft blue, and rather dull and heavy….’. Nicephorus Callistus introduced his description of Christ (MPG, cxlv. 748) with the words, “as we have received it from the ancients”, and was impressed with Jesus Christ’s ‘sea-blue eyes shading into brown‘. A report by Pontius Pilate to the Roman Senate concerning the description of Jesus allegedly contains a description of Jesus with ‘piercing eyes of a grayish-blue‘. Exactly how these people knew that the Messiah would have blue eyes is not yet known, but those who dabble in magic and witchcraft may have had dreams or visions of what the future Messiah would look like. Due to the use of hallucinogenic drugs such as acid, magic mushrooms and peyote, people can be granted a look into the future which may be the case in respect to the future eye color of the Messiah.

0. LONG BLONDISH-BROWN HAIR WITH RED TINT
The notion that the Messiah will have long blondish-brown hair with a tint of red is found within ancient literature and foreshadowed in scores of films and paintings. Due to David Chase Taylor’s Germanic and Irish ancestry, he coincidentally has long blondish-brown hair with a tint of red. A hadith in Abu Dawud (37:4310) states that the Messiah will be reddish dusky complexion. Based on this account, the Messiah will have dark reddish hair and tan skin. The Islamic tradition states that the Mahdi (i.e., the Messiah) will have flat cheeks and straight hair which Taylor coincidentally has. The description of Jesus found in the Letter of Lentullus states that “his hair of (the color of) the chestnut, full ripe, plain to His ears, whence downwards it is more orient and curling and wavering about His shoulders”. Nicephorus Callistus introduced his description of Christ (MPG, cxlv. 748) with the words, “as we have received it from the ancients”, and was impressed with Jesus Christ’s ‘brown beard of moderate length, and the long hair”. In ‘The Archko Volume‘, which contains official court documents from the days of Jesus, it claims that Jesus had blue eyes and golden hair. (i.e., blondish hair). Exactly how these people knew that the Messiah would have blondish-brown hair with a tint of red is not yet known, but those who dabble in magic and witchcraft may have had dreams or visions of what the future Messiah would look like. Due to the use of hallucinogenic drugs such as acid, magic mushrooms and peyote, people can be granted a look into the future which may be the case in respect to the future hair color of the Messiah.

11. LARGE FOREHEAD
Similar to the countless depictions of Jesus Christ, David Chase Taylor has a large and flat forehead behind which lies his pineal gland (i.e., the Third Eye). Abu Sa‘id al-Khudri, the Messenger of Allah, stated that “The Mahdi is of my lineage, with a high forehead and a long, thin, curved nose”. A report by Pontius Pilate to the Roman Senate concerning the description of Jesus allegedly contains a description of Jesus with “an open and serene forehead“. Exactly how these people knew that the Messiah would have a large forehead is not yet known, but those who dabble in magic and witchcraft may have had dreams or visions of what the future Messiah would look like. Due to the use of hallucinogenic drugs such as acid, magic mushrooms and peyote, people can be granted a look into the future which may be the case in respect to the future size of the Messiah’s forehead.

12. ABDOMINAL SCAR
The Holy Bible states in John 19:34 that “But one of the soldiers with a spear pierced his side, and forthwith came there out blood and water”. Said spear is often refered to as the Holy Lance. Therefore, in theory, the Messiah should have a scar in roughly the same place at Jesus. Around 2005, David Chase Taylor had surgery to remove a benign plexiform nuerofibroma tumor from his left abdominal wall, resulting in a scar which is located just below the rib cage (see above photo). Consequently, both Jesus and Taylor have a scar in the exact same place, both courtesy of a metallic blade. Exactly how the authors of the Bible knew that the Messiah would have a scar on his abdominal wall is not yet know, but those who dabble in magic and witchcraft may have had dreams or visions of what the future Messiah would look like. Due to the use of hallucinogenic drugs such as acid, magic mushrooms and peyote, people can be granted a look into the future which may be the case in respect to the future scar on the Messiah’s stomach.

13. BLACK MOLE ON CHEEK
According to At-Tarabani, the Messiah will be of Caucasian descent with a mole on his left cheek. According to the account of the Messiah by the Mahdi, “His face is like a colorful, glittering star, upon his right cheek there is a black mole and he is forty years old”. The Mahdi also states that “…upon his face is a mole and upon his shoulder is the Sign of the Prophet, praise and peace be upon him”. David Chase Taylor has a black mole on his left cheek bone (see above photo). Exactly how these people knew that the Messiah would have a black mole on his cheek is not yet know, but those who dabble in magic and witchcraft may have had dreams or visions of what the future Messiah would look like. Due to the use of hallucinogenic drugs such as acid, magic mushrooms and peyote, people can be granted a look into the future which may be the case in respect to the black mole on the cheek of the Messiah.

14. MEDIUM HEIGHT
A hadith in Abu Dawud (37:4310) states that the Messiah will be a man of medium height and reddish dusky complexion. Based on this account, the Messiah will be around 5’10 (177 centimeters) in height with dark reddish hair and tan skin. David Chase Taylor is 5’11.5 tall which is universally considered to be medium height. Exactly how these people knew the future height of the Messiah is not yet know, but those who dabble in magic and witchcraft may have had dreams or visions of what the future Messiah would look like. Due to the use of hallucinogenic drugs such as acid, magic mushrooms and peyote, people can be granted a look into the future which may be the case in respect to the future height of the Messiah.

15. BEARD
Islamic Shia traditions states that the Mahdi will be “a young man of medium stature with a handsome face and beard”. Nicephorus Callistus introduced his description of Christ (MPG, cxlv. 748) with the words, “as we have received it from the ancients”, and was impressed with Jesus Christ’s ‘brown beard of moderate length”. According to At-Tarabani’s account of the Messiah, “His beard is thick, his eyes naturally masquerade, his teeth are radiant”. The description of Jesus found in the Letter of Lentullus states that “His beard thickish, in color like His hair“. David Chase Taylor coincidentally happens to have a brown beard of medium length. Exactly how these people knew that the Messiah would have a beard is not yet know, but those who dabble in magic and witchcraft may have had dreams or visions of what the future Messiah would look like. Due to the use of hallucinogenic drugs such as acid, magic mushrooms and peyote, people can be granted a look into the future which may be the case in respect to the length and color of the Messiah’s beard.

16. THE FAKE FACE OF JESUS
The notion that David Chase Taylor is the Messiah was confirmed, albeit in a de facto manner, on January 23, 2015, when Popular Mechanics published a propaganda report which stated that forensic science now confirms that Jesus looks nothing like the way he has been depicted for the last thousand years in countless paintings and sculptures. In other words, if a man who looks exactly like Jesus Christ appears on Earth, pay no attention. As someone once said, “You can tell a lot about your enemy by what they are afraid of”. Naturally, the CIA is petrified that news of Taylor being the Messiah will go viral and have therefore have taken counter measures to try and discredit any such future claims.

17. THE LOST WHITE BROTHER PAHANA
According to At-Tarabani, the Messiah will be of Caucasian descent. In the Hopi tradition, the true Pahana (or Bahana) is the Lost White Brother of the Hopi who will return again when the wicked are destroyed to usher in a new age of peace, the Fifth World. This prophecy will transpire after the Apocalypse in 2017, as revealed by David Chase Taylor. White Feather, a Hopi of the ancient Bear Clan, stated that “My people await Pahana, the lost White Brother, as do all our brothers in the land. He will not be like the white men we know now, who are cruel and greedy…He will bring with him the symbols, and the missing piece of that sacred tablet now kept by the elders, given to him when he left, that shall identify him as our True White Brother…Pahana will return. He shall bring with him the dawn of the Fifth World. He shall plant the seeds of his wisdom in their hearts. Even now the seeds are being planted. These shall smooth the way to the Emergence into the Fifth World”. Abu Sa‘id al-Khudri, the Messenger of Allah, stated that “The Mahdi is of my lineage, with a high forehead and a long, thin, curved nose”. According to Harvard University anthropologist William Howells, clinical traits of the Caucasian race include “straight faces” and “narrow noses”. These accounts suggest that the Messiah is white or of Caucasian descent, just like David Chase Taylor.

19. HOLES IN HANDS & FEET
The Holy Bible states in John 20:25 that “The other disciples therefore said unto him, We have seen the Lord. But he said unto them, Except I shall see in his hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and thrust my hand into his side, I will not believe.” Similar to how Jesus Christ suffered holes in his hands and body courtesy of nails hammered by Roman soldiers, David Chase Taylor suffered severe blisters on his hands and feet over an 18-month period which ruptured, leaving scores of nail-like holes. The contagious non-permanent skin ailment was premetitatively given to him by a female CIA operative named Geraldine in Basel Switzerland on September 21, 2017. Said holes have resulted in permanent scaring. Due to walking thousands of miles (see below), Taylor incurred massive blisters on his feet which were unable to heal before new blistered occurred, resulting in large wounds or holes in his feet.

18. CROWN OF THORNS
The Holy Bible states in John 19:1-2 that “Pilate then took Jesus and scourged Him. And the soldiers twisted together a crown of thorns and put it on His head, and put a purple robe on Him”. Similar to how Jesus Christ was forced to wear a crown of thorns upon his head which caused his scalp to bleed, David Chase Taylor has been forced to endure a scalp ailment since 2011 due to being inside behind a computer for roughly 10-15 hours a day, everyday, for almost 7-years straight. Said ailment causes severe itching and pimple-like cysts which rupture and bleed upon scratching.

20. LASHES OF THE WHIP
The Holy Bible states in John 19:1 that “Pilate then took Jesus and scourged Him”. Similar to how Jesus Christ was forced to endure countless lashes of the whip courtesy of Roman soldiers, Taylor has had to deal with countless back spasms, neck spasms and shoulder pain for years due to: a) lack of proper exercise, b) carrying a heavy suitcase and bags everyday for years on end, c) logging tens-of-thousands of hours behind a computer, d) being forced to sleep in a different bed virtually ever night since 2014, and e) being forced to sleep on the streets since March of 2017. Similar to the lash of a whip, muscle spasms shoot down the entire body, causing it to cringe and convulse in pain.

21. BETRAYAL
The Holy Bible states in Luke 22 that Jesus Christ was betrayed by Judas. David Chase Taylor has been betrayed by members of his family, former girlfriends, friends and colleagues, many of which are currently working with the CIA, FBI and/or the Swiss FIS to frame Taylor for various crimes he did not commit, or to have him forcefully institutionalized for alleged mental illness. Although the betrayals are too many to list, Taylor’s two sisters, Jessica and Susanna, have repeatedly tried to have him committed to a mental asylum. Taylor’s former Swiss-Italian friend named Jerry Lavorgna, who ironically vouched for Taylor when he applied for political asylum in Switzerland on July 17, 2015, actually lured Taylor to a house outside of Basel where he was slated to be murdered. To be fair, Lavorgna thought Taylor would be institutionalized which is why he wrote a letter to the Swiss government on September 8, 2016, claiming that Taylor was clinically insane. In short, Taylor has been betrayed for years on end by virtually everyone he has previously known or met in Europe which speaks volumes about the current ethical and moral state of humanity.

22. HOMELESS TRAVELER
Because the story of Jesus Christ is in essence the story of the coming Messiah, the coincidences between the story of Jesus and that of David Chase Taylor are eerily similar. Similar to Jesus, Taylor has been homeless in Europe since 2014. In Arabic, the word al-Masi? is the name for the Messiah which literally means “the anointed”, “the traveler”, or the “one who cures by caressing”. In other words, Jesus moved around a lot. Needless to say, the reason for the Messiah’s travels is that he is desperately trying to avoid assassination by the Roman Empire which he is trying to destroy, never staying in one location for too long. Taylor has been forced to travel across Germany and Switzerland since 2014, staying in over 1,000 different locations, mostly just for one night. Although only conjecture, the cumulative total distance incurred by Taylor during his travels is likely over 100,000 miles (160,000 kilometers).

23. DIVINE PROTECTION
Because the story of Jesus Christ is in essence the story of the coming Messiah, the official Greco-Roman narrative is that the Messiah is crucified by the Jews which is why the instrument of Jesus’ death is the Swiss cross for it’s a symbolic tribute to the Greco-Roman Empire’s future blood sacrifice of the Messiah by the Geneva-based CIA. Unlike Jesus however, Taylor had gone on to live way past the age of 33 as he continues to save the World under the divine protection of the Creator. Despite avoiding and foiling over 1,000 assassination and arrest plots, Taylor is still being hunted to this very day by the Swiss CIA. The term “Mahdi” literally means “guided by God” which implies that the Messiah is an individual who has been ordained and guided by God to usher in the Messianic Age. That being said, it is imperative to note that the Messiah is just a man who just happens to have a special relationship with God which any other Earthling can have if they so choose.

24. BEARING THE SWISS CROSS
Similar to how Jesus Christ was forced to carry his cross through the streets of Jerusalem, David Chase Taylor has been forced to carry his luggage and/or pull his shopping cart though Europe for almost 4-years now, never being allowed to store his belongings lest the CIA place drugs, explosives or weapons-related paraphernalia inside in order to frame him which they have repeatedly tried to do. Aside from the physical tribulations that Taylor has been forced to endure since 2011, Taylor has published roughly 50,000 Truther.org reports over the last 5-years in a desperate attempt to stave off World War III. Tasked with keeping the World safe, one mistake or miscalculation could result in millions being killed, an awesome responsibility to be sure. Taylor has also been forced to bear the cross, the Swiss Cross, whose CIA has been hunting him day and night since 2011. Similar to how Jesus Christ endured political persecution by Ponchos Pilot and the Roman State, David Chase Taylor has been persecuted beyond measure for years on end by repeatedly being denied: a) gainful employment, b) unemployment benefits, c) health care, d) dental care, e) housing, f) food, and g) shelter. Not only that, Taylor was denied his right under international law to an attorney and the right apply for political asylum in Switzerland. In short, after filling out an official political asylum application on July 17, 2015, the Swiss government decided his case within 24-hours without ever looking at one piece of evidence in Taylor’s case. The Swiss government stated that Taylor’s case did not warrant asylum because he already applied back in 2011 when he originally inquired about political asylum in Switzerland. If the evidence in Taylor’s case was ever submitted in a Swiss court of law, Switzerland would be legally forced to act, likely resulting in international scandal of epic proportions. Needless to say, that could not be allowed to happen under any circumstance.

25. EXPOSING THE EVILS OF BANKING
The Holy Bible states in John 2:15 that “And when he had made a scourge of small cords, he drove them all out of the temple, and the sheep, and the oxen; and poured out the changers’ money, and overthrew the tables”. Like Jesus Christ before him, David Chase Taylor exposed the evils of the World banking system. In the Truther.org report entitled “10 Reasons Why Switzerland is Home of the CIA“, Taylor reveals that the Bank for International Settlements (BIS) in Basel, Switzerland is the financial backbone of the CIA, secretly funding its nefarious operations around the World. Admittedly “the World’s oldest international financial organization”, the BIS funds 60 central banks (e.g., Bank of China, Bank of England, Federal Reserve Bank, etc.), which collectively make up 95% of the World’s GDP (gross domestic product). Although the BIS bills itself as an international organization of central banks which attempts “to foster international cooperation in those areas and to act as a bank for central banks“, it is solely responsible for orchestrating the World’s financial crises si

David J. Stewart #conspiracy jesusisprecious.org

The Luciferian Occult Connection

Keep reading, you may lose some sleep tonight. Take a look at the occult illuminati eye in the photo below.

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Above: A Mormon apron as seen on A&E TV, inside the Salt Lake City Temple in Utah.

This apron is located in the Mormon temple in Salt Lake City. Gallup polls for the past several years have consistent shown that approximately 60% of Utah's population claim to be Mormons. Below is the front entrance to the same Mormon temple. Notice the same Masonic handshake (as seen above) within the all-seeing eye.

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Above: Another entrance to the Salt Lake City, Utah, Mormon Temple. Mormon founder, Joseph Smith, was a 33rd degree Freemason. See, Mormonism and Freemasonry.

You see, the Devil requires allegiance from those who would become successful in this world. This allegiance has infested the music industry, Hollywood, the corporate world and every facet of society, even the churches. Satan is working relentlessly to corrupt the masses. The image below is sister Faustina’s Image of Divine Mercy, worshipped around the world by Roman Catholics...

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ABOVE: Notice the illuminati pyramid! Notice the shining eye above the pyramid. The Lord's waist belt detaches the capstone from the base of the pyramid

This is no joke friend, you have been deceived by the Devil, the father of all liars. Most people in the world today have churchianity without Christianity, and religion without truth. I’m not trying to be unkind; but to warn you about Satan’s works of darkness. Whether it be Mormonism, Catholicism, or the Jehovah’s Witnesses—they’re all in league with Satan! God never started a religion—Jesus simply came to save sinners, asking us to believe upon Him alone to forgive our sins (John 3:16-18).

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Above is the logo for the Church of Scientology cult. Notice the two illuminati Pyramids!

Below is a photo of where Jehovah’s Witness’ founder, Charles T. Russell, is buried in the Greater Pittsburgh Masonic Center Cemetery. As you can see, Satan is behind ALL false religion. Notice the creepy illuminati pyramid with a capstone …

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Above: This is the inscription on the same pyramid above, where Jehovah’s Witness’ founder, and occult Mason, Charles T. Russell, is buried. Freaky huh?

Freemasons Donate Illuminati Pyramid as Gift for Grave of Mary Baker Eddy
Christian Science is another False Masonic Religion

Mary Baker Eddy is the founder of the CHRISTIAN SCIENTIST religion. They have reading rooms all across the United States where you can go in, sit down, and be indoctrinated into their religious false cult. It is more than mere coincidence that the demonic Jehovah's Witnesses gave an Masonic pyramid to place on Eddy's grave, just as Charles Russell (founder of the Jehovah's Witnesses) has a giant illuminati pyramid parked on his grave (as seen above). Birds-of-a-feather flock together!

Freemasons are the visible organization, the work horse to carry out Satan's sinister plot for a Godless Global Totalitarian Communism Police State, aka, a New World Order. Russell even named his perversion of the Bible, the 'New World Translation.' That's about as blatant as you can get. Get it? ... New World Translation (New World Order).

When I witness to a Jehovah's Witness, I show them a photo of Russell's grave and the occult connection between the religions. I explain to them the Luciferian conspiracy. Most Jehovah's Witnesses are victims of their organization, they've been lied to and deceived. We as believers need to expose all these Masonic religions for what they are. Freemasonry is a diabolic, Satanic, religious cult; they operate in dual fashion, literally operating as two separate entities, an organization within an organization. Freemasonry is steeped in Kabbalistic mysticism, although Kabbalists themselves claim that their teachings are not mysticism. May I say, by very definition Kaballah is 100% mysticism, which is defined as, obscure and irrational thought. If you don't believe it, find a Kabbalah website and try to study it.

What is it with all the pyramids and all-seeing eyes? The explanation is simple. Satan uses images, just as “The Great Oz” in the movie, The Wizard of Oz. Satan is the little peon behind the curtain (Isaiah 14:16). The purpose of the IMAGE is to magnify a person, or thing, to give a bigger than life IMAGE. This is why king Nebuchadnezzar had a 90-foot tall, 9-foot wide, statue made of gold for the people to bow and worship, on his behalf.

1921 - On the 100th anniversary of Mary Baker Eddy's birth, an exact replica of the Great Pyramid, made from a single piece of granite and weighing over 100 tons and 11 feet on each side, was carved and placed near the house where Eddy had been born, in New Hampshire. It was a gift from Freemasons. In the "Mary Baker Eddy Letter," December 25, 1997, we learn that when "the Board of Directors noted that too many Christian Scientists were visiting the grand granite marker at Bow ... that marked Mary Baker Eddy's birthplace, they had it destroyed, dynamited to bits!"

Eddy's first husband, George Washington Glover, was a Mason, and “thereafter membership in the Masonic Order was the one single 'outside' affiliation that was allowed to church members by Mrs. Eddy.”

Christian Science and Freemasonry have maintained a symbiotic relationship. Many of the first churches established around the United States had gathered in Masonic Temples. To this day one can find the headquarters for many Christian Science associations having an address corresponding to the local Masonic lodge.

SOURCE: Oprah Winfrey, New Thought, "The Secret" and the "New Alchemy"

What you see on the tombstone of the founder of the Watchtower movement is the Knights Templar Symbol for the York Rite of Freemasonry (See below). This degree is equivalent to the 33rd Degree of Freemasonry and is the highest degree of the York Rite indicating that he knew whom he was serving. It was not Jesus Christ of Nazareth to be sure.

John Ramirez #fundie search.stillsmallvoicetriage.org

John Ramirez, Escape from Hell Ex-Satanist

I grew up in a neighborhood that, first of all, the first killing that I experienced was feet away from me when I went to go in and get a gallon of milk. Was only 10 feet away from me, they shot a guy, like, 7 times. They shot him 7 times, it was a young boy. I've seen killings after killings after killings. In order to survive in the streets of the South Bronx you had to be a killer, you have to be a murderer, you have to smart, you have to be slick. On my father's side, it was all witches and warlocks. We lived on witchcraft, we had a contract right with the devil himself. I remember when I was younger, 8 or 9 years old, I seen him going through the room to worship the devil. I could see the presence of the devil come into that room. And my father was worshipping, speak in demonic tongues and worship and put flowers and put candles and put water out. 7:00 at night until 5:00 in the morning. I was already going to demonic church, I was going to witchcraft church. I was being trained to be a warlock, I was being trained with witches in the religion for 30 years, 40 years, 50 years. It was training me to know how to speak to principalities, spirits in the ground, the devil himself. You couldn't speak to the devil right away, you had to earn your right to speak to the devil.

In the first mass killing that they did in my neighborhood was at this house right here. The husband stabbed a lady 52 times and cut her ears off - here. And then me, my brothers would hang out with their daughter and we came to the house to walk them back home, to go hang out with the daughters right here and the daughters found their mother cut up to pieces here, in this house.

I was in a schoolyard playing with some friends in a schoolyard. A pastor came and they had this band came in, they were singing songs and people started to gather in the schoolyard. It was an amazing atmosphere, you know. Amazing joy in the schoolyard. I came from a broken home. This pastor's up on stage and he's talking about some Bible story and some Bible book and he's talking about how God loves everybody, ya know, this other stuff. And for the first time I'm getting kind of captivated. "Wow, maybe God does love me. Maybe God does want me. Maybe God wants my family. Maybe God wants to touch me and my family. Maybe He wants to change my family around." I said, "Wow, I can get some of that, I can get some of that. 'Cause He's coming my way." and for the first time ever I felt an incredible love that was indescribable. There's pastors coming off the stage, praying for people, touching people. So I said, "Now, it's my turn. Now he's gonna touch me." Ya know? Now Jesus is gonna accept me, Jesus is gonna show me what love is about. And this pastor passed me by. Never touched me, never laid his hands on me. He went down the line, and when he came up to me, he passed me by, he touched the other person. And I said, "Jesus don't love me, either. My dad don't love me, Jesus don't love me." I come from a broken home. Jesus - he likes the fact that my mother gets beat up. He likes the fact that I go to bed hungry. He like the fact that, you know, there's no heat in my apartment. he likes the fact that when we go to school, we're rejects, we're misfits in school.

So, this Jesus guy - he's just like my father. He's no different. He's just like my dad.

So, I went home, broken. I went home sad. I remember a week later, a couple of weeks later - two weeks later, I went to the schoolyard, hanging out, playing with a friend of mine's. I heard something fell and hit the ground. It was a voodoo necklace. So, I took the voodoo necklace - it had many colors - I took it, I put it on and the necklace was my first contract with the devil.

We went to a Tarot card reading, and when I went to a Tarot card reading, I was a little boy, I was 10 years old - we went in. The lady doing the Tarot card reading, called the witch lady, doing the Tarot card reading she was fascinated - had her eyes fixed on me. And she said, "This boy's got, this boy - we want him. We want him, we want him. The ___ which is Santeria want him. Spiritualism___ is Spanish, Santeria they call it worship of the saints, but it's not worship of the saints, it's worship of demons. We want him. And if you don't give him to us, he's going to lose his eyesight in 30 days." So, my mother was so desperate as a mother, my mother sold her furniture. My mother sold her bedroom set to get $250 to do my first ceremony, because this lady put so much fear in us, so much fear in my mother that my mother had to sleep on the floor, because there was no bedroom for her to sleep on, because she didn't want me to lose my eyesight.

So, they initiated me to the dark side. I was 8 to 10 years old. Their first love, the first contact I had, as a 10 year old boy, the devil showed up and took the offering of giving my life to him. And they put five beads around my neck. The five worst demons of principalities that are under Satan. They put them right around my neck, which is Santeria. They put them right around my neck and they said, "These are your spiritual guides. These are going to be your guardian angels, and they are going to take care of your life from now on."

(driving downtown) This is the building, this corner building here? Used to be almost abandoned, this building here - it's in the book. It used to be so broken down, my brother used to get the water from the pump - the pump (fire hydrant) right there. The apartment was all empty, all the apartments were abandoned, Only me and my family lived here. My whole childhood was stolen, my whole childhood was worshipping the devil, going to demon church. I would go to demon church from 7:00 in the evening to 5:00 in the morning, being trained by witches and warlocks, powers, principals, rites - who owned this region, who's in this region, who's running this principality, what principality name is this? I had...how to channel powers. By the age of 13 years old I was astro-projecting, my body - I would leave my body home and go to regions, in through the spirit and curse regions, curse a neighborhood, put the spirit of prostitution, the spirit of drugs onto the neighborhood. Homosexuality spirits here, demonic spirits here, a spirit of murder, spirit of suicide. I knew how to channel all these spirits into a neighborhood. At the age of 15, 16 years old, I was going into hospitals and putting death and ICU, death in one room so this person could die, because I wanted to be promoted with the devil. To move up the ranks, to be the biggest devil worshipper in New York City. The devil became my daddy. He replaced my dad, because I prayed - I said, "You kill my dad..." At the age of 33 years old my dad got shot in a nightclub, in the face, a woman that wasn't even his, when he had a good woman home - the devil took him out. The devil said, "I replaced the old to keep the new." And the devil became my daddy.

There was a club here, and my father died there. 33 years old. And we lived over there. And then, when I was 11 years old little boy, there was a store right here on the corner and a guy got shot in the street right there, right there - on the little corner here? Guy got killed there when I went to get the gallon of milk.

And I moved up the ranks, through devil worshipping, I moved up the ranks - I moved up through principalities and demons to the point that I was able to just sit with the devil like I'm sitting with you today. And the devil would manifest himself in human form, his presence would come into the room. And I would speak to the devil all night long. He would give me assignments. I would go to five clubs, five lounges a night, to look for people to recruit for the dark side. I would tell people their fortune. I would tell people their lifes, tell people the things that they did, things that was going to happen to them. Then they had no clue who I was, they didn't know who I was, I just had the demonic powers. I had a taste for blood. I would kill animals and drink their blood every week. If I didn't have money, didn't had time to buy an animal, I would cut myself and drink my own blood. The ring of the people that I was with, there was this demonic world: doctors, lawyers, principals, judges, police officers - they were all into witchcraft. Even singers today that are very well known. I would move principalities on that region to control demons on the ground operate to cut down the church, to cut down the growth of the church. To cut down the opportunity for people to get saved. I would be drunk, I'd come out of a club, half demon possessed, drunk. I was standing in the middle of the street and say to God, "Come down. You want some of this? You want me to slap you in your face? You want me to spit in your face? You come and mess with me."

I got married on Halloween. I had a demonic wedding on Halloween. I got married on Halloween. All the demons and principalities from different regions of around the work came to my wedding. No human beings came to my wedding, they were afraid to come to my wedding. So, I had a crazy...I sent out invitations, no one showed up. There were no wedding gifts. But demons came to my wedding, they baptized(?) my wedding. So my wife was a witch, I was a witch and then my daughter was born and I was training her to be a witch, too.

I remember the first time that I was going to sacrifice my first human being. The devil was sitting in the passenger side of my car when I parked. He said, "You love me?" I said, "Of course I love you, Dad." He said, "The guy on the rooftop, he's trying to...he's going to try to take you and hurt you and take your money. You'll kill him if you love me." So when I went up there to the rooftop, I lived on the 12th floor, I remember that. When I went up to the rooftop, I remember the part that he was hiding behind. He was hiding behind the stairway. This guy was 6'5", 250 pounds. I was half demon possessed. I felt that the demon went into me, it wasn't me anymore. So I was going to drag him into my apartment and stab him in the neck, 'cause I had a _____pot - it weighed about a hundred pounds plus, plus I had 9 machetes in it, it had knives in it that I ____ the roosters with. But when I went to grab this guy, I wanted to bring him to my apartment, he got off my hands, and just disappeared. He went down the stories - I mean this guy was like an Olympic athlete, he just - woosh - gone, he just disappeared. And I couldn't grab him and kill him. I was very disappointed that I couldn't kill my first human being.

(walking down a street, pointing to the side of a building) People wrote graffiti over it - this is a demon right here. Look at the demon that runs the gates of Hell. This is the one I was telling you about that is in my book on Santeria, right here. This little demon. This is the demon that runs Haiti. The principality over Haiti. The one that's over there is the principality over Islam. Look at this. To trap the people. The Truth. The Truth will set you free. They put that up there so that people can think they're part of this. (the cross.)

What is this place?

This a place where everyone in the park comes here to __? in witchcraft to hurt people, kill people. This is the place. We can go inside. Come on.

If I tell you I was going to kill you in 30 days, you prepare for your funeral, you was going to die in 30 days. I don't care who you were, I don't care who you knew, I don't care what religion you call yourself - you say you were Catholic, you were Christian, you say you were a believer - I was going to kill you. UNLESS you had a real relationship with Jesus Christ.

The lady that lived downstairs, she came up, she told me her husband was cheating. I want you to kill the woman he's cheating with, put a witchcraft spell on her and kill her. How much you charge me?

I said, "Look. Come back, I'm going to speak to the devil, my Daddy, for a time. Come back and I'll let you know in a couple days." The lady came back, the devil told me what to buy, he said to buy a coffin box, buy 21 black candles. Buy an image of the lady, put in the box, you know, to do the witchcraft to kill this lady. So we were going to do her for 21 days, she was going to die. after 21 days we were going to do her funeral. So the lady came to my house, we were going to charge her $10,000 dollars, I told her, to kill the lady. I said "Sure. I tell you what - I know you, you been good to me, everybody house parties...give me $7,000. I give you 30% off. I said, "I'll kill her. Give me - I'll take 30% off the 10, give me $7,000." So, when the lady was going to leave my house, she said, "By the way, the lady's a Christian. The lady's a Christian." I said, "I'll kill her for free." I said, "I don't need the money. I'll kill her for free. I'm going to teach these Christians a lesson they're gonna learn. I'll kill her for free." I told her, I don't want your money -I'll kill her for free.

So I did the voodoo thing, I did the witchcraft thing and 21 days went by and the lady didn't die. A month went by, the lady didn't die. And I was like, wow - what's going on? I mean, my reputation's on the line. So I called the devil, I called the demons that were assigned - I increased the witchcraft. I increased the witchcraft, I doubled the witchcraft on her, so she could die, like, overnight. Nothing was going on, nothing was going on. I was home at night and the devil shows up, the presence of the devil comes into my house. He tell me, "We have to abort the plan on the lady you want to kill." And I said, "Why would we want to abort the plan? My reputation is on the line. I'm a witch, I'm a warlock. If I don't kill the lady, people won't think that I have any powers." The devil say, "You don't understand. The God that she serves said don't - leave her alone. Don't touch her." And I said, "Who's this God?" He said, "The God that she serves."

I was so angry, I said no, give it one more week, but let's kill her. He said, "No. The God that she serves said leave her alone." From the witchcraft that I did on the lady, she should have been dead in less than 21 days.

(In a store)This is Jezebel. This is Jezebel in their religion. This is how it works. See these statues here, they don't mean nothing, but it's the demon behind it. So in order for me to identify with this, this has to be created, because i can't identify to a spirit. I can't identify to the spirit, we have nothing in common. I'm humanity, a spirit is immortality. A spirit is a spirit demon. I can't relate to it, so in order for me to relate to it, you have to put this guy in the middle, so I can relate to it, because he's human form. He looks like a human being. There's a story behind this guy, so you and I can related to him. so the demon operates through him. Understand? Same thing with these guys. And then they give themselves names and days and birthdays. The American Indians can get caught up with demonic forces, they can get caught up into the occult. These are the entrapment of the Native American Indians. But those are statues that the people use in demonic ways, in demonic religion. There's nothing in here that is holy, there's nothing...the only thing holy here is us standing here.

What happens in this place?

This here in the back, they do witchcraft in the back, they do voodoo, they do with spells in the back, they do cleansings in the back. All these demons they want you to buy a new statue so you can take a demon home. See, selected prayers. They make you believe that you're praying to God. Look. I used to use this book, selected prayers. They make you think that you're praying to God, but these prayers are not Godly prayers. Nothing in the Bible here, say nothing about the Bible, the crucifixion.

We had a book in New York City, in American. I was the third person to get this book that had symbols in the book of different demons, different principalities, of different ways of killing people with the witchcraft. I mean this book was so...no one had a copy of this book. You couldn't have a copy of this book unless the devil signed off on you. And I was the third person to receive that book. And I would take symbols in that book and do witchcraft to people, put people...make people lose their mind. I put witchcraft on people, make people get diseases out of nowhere. I put witchcraft on people, make people get leprosy. I put witchcraft on people, make people get cancer. I mean, I gave witchcraft to people, I gave people miscarriages, I gave people abortions, I put people in hospitals for surgeries, that didn't even have to go for surgeries. I did witchcraft so people would lose their minds. I spirits of bi-polar, of schizophrenia, spirits of disease on people. I put suicide spirits on people. I'd be up all night long, praying and talking to the devil - when Christians can't even go to church for one hour. When Christians can't even pray for one hour.

The spirit realm is more real than the natural realm. And we fail to see that. In whatever's not covered with Jesus Christ is an easy target to bring down. Like, and atheist - I could kill him easily. They are easy to kill. The Jehovah Witness was easy to destroy. The Mormon was easy to destroy. The people that walk around and say, "We don't believe in the devil." they were easy to destroy, because they didn't know how to seek any spiritual help.

I remember a time when Nicky Cruz came to...a Nicky Cruz group came into my neighborhood and they were called TRUCE. They would come and do drive-bys in my neighborhood. They would do, like, worship and then they would preach a word and then go to another corner and do the same thing. And I came after these groups to try to put, to try to bring them down, this group. And they were young kids, they were like 18, 17, 16, 20 - I mean. So I said how do they dare to place this junk, this filthy music in my neighborhood - see, they would call worship. This filthy music in my neighborhood, I would go after them. I would destroy these kids. So when I went up to where they were at, there was a wall of fire around them. I couldn't penetrate against them. And there was something that pushed me back, every time I try to throw demonic forces against them, something there would just push me back and I was never able to touch these kids. And I said, there was something here. It's not right. Something is not falling into place. So I walked away, I left them alone. I didn't want to deal with them, I said, okay - they won this first round.

(back in a store) So, it's obvious there are spirits here watching us.

Oh yeah, of course they're watching us.

Yeah, and so we're all protected, we're all...

Yeah, we're protected. We're under the Blood, brother. There ain't nothing like the Blood of Jesus. Amen? There's nothing that can touch us. We got a hedge of protection around us and we can walk into this place, we can chase demons out of here, we can curse the place to the ground, in Jesus' name and there's nothing that the devil can do.

I mean, I had so much money. Beautiful cars, beautiful woman, I had it all. I lived in a world that people...my neighborhood, my neighbors were terrified of who I was. They said, you mess with that guy, your family will die. You mess with that guy, he gonna get a gun, he'll kill you in your sleep. My daddy was awesome, my daddy was...he knew had had...he give me powers beyond what I could imagine. He gave me powers that people have fear of me, police have fear of me, the securities in my neighborhood fear me. People that knew that I was a devil - they would call me the devil's son. I brought Christians to their knees, not to pray, because they had no power. It wasn't because their God wasn't all powerful, don't get me wrong. Because their God was all powerful - the vessel was weak. The vessel had no prayer life, the prayer had no fasting life. And they had no relationship with God. There was a form of godliness in the person, but no power. The person was weak, the person had nothing going. He had a Bible, he had the right suit on, she had the right dress on - but there was no connection with Jesus Christ. Because they was out of His will, they was out of His promises and they was out of His divine purpose, and I had you. I owned you. I had you as a slave, I broke you, I put witchcraft on you. I kept doing that to Christian after Christian after Christian after families after churches. I'd chase everything down that represented the Cross of Jesus Christ.

(driving)Very demonic place.

So that place has an effect on the whole neighborhood, is what you're saying?

Oh yeah, of course. Oh yeah. This whole region unlocked that. That's the devil's throne, we just went into the devil's throne. (referring to the store they had been in)

That throne been there since the 80's. And then they go spend $100, $200 buying these things, and then they broke, they on welfare, public assistance. But they got money to buy all this junk, because they think their life is going to get better, they think that their life is going to improve, they gonna make progress in life, they think that they're going break generational curses. They think they're going break vex, spells, voodoo - they think they're gonna break all that, and basically, God says "I come. I'll do that for you for free."

He says give your life to Me, and I'll set you free. But they don't want that, that's too difficult for them. That's too complicated for them. But they can walk into a place like this and drop $200 and think that their life is gonna be free. And they're gonna live a life of abundance.

I had contact with the principality that runs Haiti. His name is Condero(?). I had contact with demons in Miami. I had contact with demons in Africa. I had contact with demons in New York City, principalities that run crossroads of the world. He owns 42nd street. Okay? There's a different principality that runs crossroads of the world here on 42nd street than the one that tries to run this neighborhood.

I didn't have a conscience. I remember I did witchcraft to my brother, I put him in jail for 5 years. Witchcraft - to my own brother, my own flesh and blood. I did witchcraft and put him in jail for 5 years. My other brother, there was a warlock. He came into my house one time with an attitude and the demon jumped on him. He ran out the house, he couldn't hold the pain in his stomach. My mother can bear witness to that. I did so much ceremonies in my body. I did so much ceremonies in my body, the last ceremony I did - I not only sold myself to the devil, I did a ceremony were I had to swallow animal blood and gunpowder. It was called (?) This is a ceremony of Haitian and French. If you do this ceremony with a demon - so when I go to people's houses and eat, they can't put witchcraft on the food. I did all the ceremonies you can do.

I would go to demon church. Every year, we would have a meeting, a secret meeting. All the high witches and warlocks would have this meeting to find out what principality was gonna usher out and bring in to run the region. We were more organized than the church itself. The kingdom of darkness was more organized than the church of Jesus Christ. We knew how to do ceremonies, we knew how to do things before the year was over to prepare ourselves for the next year. When Christians couldn't go to church and pray for one hour. When Christians couldn't go to church and have a consistent relationship with God. I even took a sabbatical from witchcraft and the devil punished me - took my eyesight for one year. I was completely blind for one year. Was registered with the Commissioner for the Blind. I was completely blind. They were training me to use a Seeing Eye dog, they were training me to use one of these sticks that you use to walk the streets. My mother took care of me for one year. My eyes went black. And a mist of gray went over my eyes. I was completely blind. And when I gave my life back to the devil, after 7 surgeries, the devil gave me back my eyesight. And I could see again. And that was my punishment for taking one year off, I wanted to take off. The devil said, you want one year off? I give it to you. He took my eyesight.

And that's the world I lived in. If you mess with the devil, he'll kill you, he'll kill your family. It was a fear that was great beyond measure, that you could not leave this religion. You could not leave Santeria, you could not leave ______, you could not leave spiritualism. The doctors could not explain how I lost my eyesight. Meanwhile, Christians - and would say, what Christians do bad, Christians sometimes missed the mark, and the only thing that shows up in their house is grace and mercy. When you're short with the devil, you do something the devil don't like - he kill someone. He kill your family member. I remember the devil warned this lady, he said you can't be with that person no more and she didn't care, 'cause she was in love with the person - the devil demon-possessed a homeless guy in the street. He took a hammer and hit her 17 times on her head, killed her.

One day, I was sitting home. It was amazing. I came from a nightclub the night before. I was sitting home watching a show called Jerry Springer, a crazy show - people beating each other up. I got joy outta that, I was getting joy outta that, laughing. For the first time I heard a voice say to me, "Son. I am coming soon. What are you going to do with your life?" An audible voice, shouting from across the room. And I thought it was the TV talking to me..But then I saw it can't be the TV, these people were beating each other up. This voice... I knew the voice of the devil, I would sit with the devil like I'm sitting with you today. He would come into human form, he would come in the room, he would come in sometime, the presence come into the room. The atmosphere changes and I now he was there for me, and he was talking to my conscience. I would talk back and we would talk all night long. I knew that, too. I knew him like you knew the back of your hand. I knew every demon, every principality that ran the region, that ran everything in America. Everything in Canada. Everything that ran - I know every principality that ran every occult, wicca, new age, buddhistism, Islam, Andria, spiritualism - I knew every principality that ran. I had a contract with every principality with them, I had straight A marks with every principality, with every demon in the ground, the devil, Jezebel. I had every - I knew demons that I couldn't even tell you names, because you wouldn't know who they are. I knew them all by name. And this voice was very different than any other voice. When I heard that voice come out of nowhere - it came out of the air. The Voice.

I went into shock. And then I saw a vision from the other side of the apartment like the sky was on fire, and people underneath - I saw people running for cover but there was no cover, where to hide. And I think, why did I see that vision? So I shook it off. But I remember I went to sleep, like a deep sleep, like someone put on anesthesia and I went to sleep. I ended up in a train full of people. I couldn't believe I was in a train full of people. And this train was going faster than you could ever imagine. I'd never been on something this fast on Earth. And it went into hell. And Jesus Christ took me to hell. And when I got to hell, the doors opened. I mean, there was a slam in the doors, there was an unspeakable echo that struck all the doors open and there was heat that came out of nowhere. It felt like you were gonna suffocate, the heat that came out. I ran, I got out the train and the people on the train, they had no faces. But you could see the fear on the people on the train. You could feel the fear, the impact of the fear that they were going to a place that they were never going to return. And the place was packed.

And then, I tried, I said, "I can't die here. I can't die here. This is not for me. I wasn't born to be in this place." I was saying this to myself, I was not born to be here. So I tried to find like a tunnel, a tunnel in hell. I was walking, trying to run through the tunnels in hell, trying to find a door. Maybe a window. Maybe there was a gap somewhere that I can come out and come back to reality. But there was no gap. I remember as I...the more I went into the tunnels, the more the fear gripped me, the more the suffering. I heard suffering, just draped over you. This fear drapes over you like you're wearing a garment. This fear drapes over you, something you can't even control. You have no control over. Something like, it grabs you. It don't let you go. I couldn't see the hand in front of my face. But I hear the wailing - I hear wailing. Like, you ever hear like a kid wail, an animal wail at the same time. It's like, they're kinda wailing, it's indescribable. And there was heat and a smell that was like...like if you was in the sewers or the gutters in New York City. I mean, but crazier than that. As I came to a part of the tunnel, the devil showed up. He said, "I was your Daddy. I gave you everything you needed. I took care of you. I blessed you. I protected you. I killed people for you. I did...I give you powers, I give you a name in the darkness, the kingdom of darkness. I gave you a name. When people came against you I destroyed them, because I knew you were going to be the vessel I was going to use to move my kingdom on the Earth. And now you want to leave me? Now you want to betray me? In demonic tongues, and I'm talking back to him in demonic tongues and telling him no, I'm not leaving, I'm just confused. I don't know what's going on. And he said, "No. I know what you're going to do. You're going to leave me and you're going to expose my religion. You're going to expose who i am and how I operate in the realm, in the spirit realm. Because I taught you things that I never taught no one else. I showed you. I trusted you with the things that I needed you to know so you can further my kingdom. Because I wanted to use you in a greater measure way." And in the confusion, he went to grab me. He went to grab and destroy me and the Cross of Jesus appeared. I didn't understand how a cross, a three foot cross appeared in hell, when I was wearing blue shorts and a T-shirt. And I put it on him. And when I put it on him, the devil melt like he was an infant, like an infant he melt and fell on the floor. Like, no powers. So I took that opportunity and I ran deeper into the gates, I ran deeper into the tunnels of hell, hoping that there was a door. I had...my hope was being...there was not hope in the hope at all. There was no place saying I'm coming out of here! This was it, this was the end. I had a fear that gripped me that was indescribable - I never felt fear like that, ever felt a despair - it was the opposite of what Heaven is, opposite of Joy, opposite of gladness, opposite of Peace. It was opposite of light and darkness. It was a place of torment, a place of...if I'm here, my family won't know I'm here. My daughter won't know I'm here. How would they find me? How would they look for me?

As I went deeper into the tunnel of hell, hoping that there was a door, a window, a crack somewhere that I can get out, the devil showed up again. "So now, we'll destroy you." I told him in the demonic language, I've got these marks, these are my contracts to protect me, to destroy you. He said, "Fool! I gave you those marks. Those are my marks that I OWN you. I OWN YOU. No one owns you, I do. And you're gonna live for me or you die." And he went to grab me a second time around. I said, this is it. He went to grab me a second time around - the Cross of Jesus Christ appeared in hell. There's no greater love than the Cross that would come for a sinner like me, in hell. So when David says, "If I make my bed in hell, He knows I'm there." Grace and Mercy showed up in hell. Grace and Mercy knew my address. Grace and Mercy have a plan for my life. To my unspeakable, demonic, selfish ways. Arrogant, self-centered ways in hell, when I was down for the count. Jesus Christ loved the misfit. And He said, "I have a plan for you. I love you more than you can ever imagine." And He showed up in hell. And when I woke up, my spirit came back into my body. I woke up and I bend my knee to Jesus Christ. I had $100,000 of witchcraft in my house. I threw witchcraft away, I threw religion away. I threw everything that had to do with darkness away. The people from Haiti, the people from Cuba, the people from Miami and New York said, "we have to kill him, because he knows too much. We have to destroy him. We have to kill him, because he knows too much. He's not one of us anymore."

And they came for the kill. They did their best, they came for the kill. I was asleep in the day. It was day and night when the demons showed up and tormented me 30 days. They tormented me for 30 days. They would grab me by my throat, pick me up off my bed. The room grew cold, I would lay in my bed. I'd feel another person laying next to me, ice cold, another person. I would look like this, and feel the presence. The presence was the devil himself, laying in my bed for 30 days. On and off, on and off trying to torture, trying to steal my mind, trying to rip my soul out of my body, trying to rip my spirit out of my body. I would tremble at night, like I never trembled before. 30 days. And I would cry out, I didn't know how to pray? I said, "Jesus! Jesus! Jesus!" I didn't know how to pray. I say, my sister prays - I heard her in church, she pray this way. I heard that person pray this way - I would bring all these prayers together, to try to pull them together like a puzzle, trying to fight for my life.

One day, I was in church worshipping. And I asked the Lord, "Lord, why are You letting this happen to me?" And one day I heard the voice of God again. He said, "I want to see how much you love Me. I want to see how much you trust Me." And never again, I was tormented by the devil. And I became an evangelist for Jesus Christ. Fourteen years serving the Lord and I would never trade it for nothing in the world. Over on Hallelujah Boulevard, there's a mansion for John Ramirez. And one days says, Welcome Home, well done faithful servant. And I tell you, there's nothing - I'm not talking about Christianity - I'm talking about a relationship with Jesus Christ. He is my Lord. He is my beginning and end. No weapon formed against me will ever prosper. I die when Jesus say I go Home. Not because of a witch. Not because of a person. Not because hex, voodoo, incantation - none of that can separate me from the love of God.

Unknown author #fundie creationworldview.org

Evolutionists do not want us to teach in our public schools the science that shows the validity of creation. They want us to teach only their (with apologies to Rudyard Kipling) "Just So Stories."

Personally, I believe that we should teach evolution side-by-side with creation giving equal scientific emphasis and have our students learn to think critically. Let us show them both and allow them to decide for themselves which one they will believe because origins is a faith position. Evolutionists reject this two model approach to teaching about origins because they inherently know that they will lose every time.

If they will not allow the teaching in our public schools of the science to support creation and adamantly defend the teaching of evolution only, that is fine with me - as long as we teach the students more about evolution than the evolutionists do. If we teach students ALL about evolution then they will realize that evolution is intellectually bankrupt.

The solution to evolution is education!

Please allow us to teach the students the truth about the implications of the Laws of Science, such as the First and Second Law of Thermodynamics, and how these Laws disprove evolution. Please allow us to teach the truth about the whole and complete nature of natural processes, like photosynthesis and metamorphosis, and how these could not possibly come into existence by random chance. Please allow us to teach the truth about what is really in the ground, like the out of order layers and polystrate fossils, as opposed to what evolutionists say is in the ground.

Please allow us to teach the truth about the hoaxes and frauds that have been authenticated and perpetuated by evolutionists then later had to be retracted. Please allow us to teach the truth about: Piltdown Man, Java Man, Peking Man, English Peppered Moths, the Horse Series, Pithecanthropus alalus, Galapagos Finch Beaks, embryonic recapitulation and the Monera.

Please allow us to teach the students the truth about how the acceptance of evolution is the foundational justification to promote: human racism, homosexuality, abortion, euthanasia, lawlessness, pornography, and all the other immoral and unethical activities within our society.

Yes, I am convinced! We need to teach more about evolution in our public schools, not less!

With this admonition in mind, I want to give you a Primer on the Scientific Reasons that Evolution is Wrong. The following are only thirty basic points and are by no means the total list that we might make. This is just a list that you may refer to when you want a quick way to look up what is wrong with evolution.

1. The evolution of one kind into another kind is not happening in a measurable way in the present, nor can it be proven to have occurred in the past.

2. No new kinds of organisms are being observed coming from previously existing organisms. (We discover new kinds that we have never cataloged before, but this only shows our ignorance of their existence.)

3. No new structures or organs have been observed coming into existence. All observed structures or organs are fully formed when first observed. (The only observed changes to current structures or organs come from their decay and degradation.)

4. There are distinct gaps between the known kinds of organisms. One kind is not observed to change into another kind. We do not observe the "missing links" because they are missing, not there, don't exist.

5. Life only comes from life and reproduces after its own kind. Life does not come from non-living material. Life does not spontaneously generate itself.

6. Mutations, the supposed driving mechanisms of evolution, are random in nature and are neutral or harmful. They do not accumulate beneficially. Mutations produce the wrong kind of change and will not provide for the upward progressive increase in intelligence or complexity required by evolutionists.

7. We observe stasis, not change, in nature. Extinction is a proof of creation. We do not find change in the fossil record nor can we measure it in the present. Animal and plant kinds that exist today retain the same appearance but are smaller in size than their known predecessors.

8. The fossil layers are not found in the ground in the nice neat clean order that evolutionists illustrate them to be in their textbooks. There is not one place on the surface of the earth where you may dig straight down and pass through the fossil layers in the order shown in the textbooks. The neat order of one layer upon another does not exist in nature. The fossil bearing layers are actually found out of order, upside down (backwards according to evolutionary theory), missing (from where evolutionists would expect them to be) or interlaced ("younger" and "older" layers found in repeating sequences). "Out of place" fossils are the rule and not the exception throughout the fossil record.

9. Polystrate fossils, fossils which penetrate two or more layers of the fossil record (most often trees), are common throughout the fossil record. In rare cases even large animal skeletons have been found in vertical position rather than in a horizontal position.

10. Life forms are found to be complex even in the "oldest" layers of the fossil record. For example, various species of Trilobites are found to have very sophisticated eyesight. Yet evolutionists say that these creatures supposedly evolved into existence when the first multiple celled life forms began to evolve some 620 million supposed years ago.

11. Nature does not provide us with the proof for the "Tree of Life" so glibly talked about by evolutionists. We do not find life starting as simple and then branching upward and outward as it becomes more and more complex. We do not find that life forms follow the pattern of a single tree trunk with many branches. The physical evidence provided by nature gives a picture of an extremely large orchard with all plant and animal types represented from the beginning with their own individual trunks and branches producing the variations within kinds that we have today, but no new kinds progressing from previous kinds.

12. There are no transitional forms found in the fossil record. In spite of all the reports people may have heard, we have never found the fossil of a plant or an animal which is a true intermediate form. The "missing links" are missing because they are missing.

13. Be wary of artists renderings. An artists depiction, conception or illustration is imaginary. Simply because we see an artists illustration of a cow becoming a whale doesn't make it so. Human desire and imagination are not evidence.

14. Ancient man was not primitive. Ancient human cultures had more complex languages than we do today. The engineering feats of the past cultures are well recognized and in some cases have not been duplicated in modern times. There never was a Stone Age, Bronze Age or Iron Age. Man has used stone, bronze and iron tools in all ages of past human activity. Indeed, there is nothing new under the sun.

The observed Laws of Science contradict the various theories of evolution.

15. The law of Cause and Effect not only describes that for every effect there must have been a cause, it also tells us that the cause must be greater than the effect. No one can create anything greater than themselves. You do not get an increase in intelligence or complexity without the input from a greater intelligence.

16. The First and Second Laws of Thermodynamics work contrary to evolutionary belief. The First Law of Thermodynamics (The Law of Energy Conservation) proves that the universe cannot be the reason for its own existence. According to the First Law the universe cannot have been anything less than it is, and if it cannot have been anything less than it is, it had to come into existence whole and complete. If the universe came into existence whole and complete, then it had to be created. Simply adding energy to a system will not cause an increase in intelligence or complexity. The addition of undirected energy to a system accomplishes nothing, except possibly for the destruction of that system.

The Second Law of Thermodynamics (The Law of Entropy) proves that evolution cannot happen. The Second Law stipulates (a poor attempt by scientists to describe The Curse of Genesis Chapter 3 and Revelation) that in all activities some of the energy becomes unavailable for further useful work. The universe is running down, not up.

17. The concept of a "Big Bang" producing the universe is absolutely illogical. Explosions do not produce ever increasing order and structure. Explosions produce disorder and chaos. Explosions break things down or destroy what was previously ordered.

18. There is no substantiated method in nature which would allow stars to be "born." The Gas Laws prove that the pressure of hot gases expanding outward from a center is far greater than the gravitational force drawing them towards a center. Stars could not evolve into existence.

19. The Law of Biogenesis (the Law of Life Beginnings) accurately states that life only comes from life, and that life only reproduces after its own kind. Life cannot spontaneously generate and life forms do not change from one kind into another kind.

20. The input of undirected energy accomplishes nothing. The input of undirected energy will destroy a system, not build it up. Only the input from a greater intelligence will cause a beneficial increase in order and/or complexity.

21. Not only must there be the input from a greater intelligence in order to produce an increase in complexity and/or intelligence, that intelligence must have a preconceived plan of action. No master craftsman would start to build without first having a plan, a blueprint.

22. In order for evolution to be true atoms must form useful molecules such as enzymes, amino acids and proteins by random chance. It is mathematically impossible for these molecules, much less the far larger DNA molecule, to form by random action in nature. It cannot happen!

23. Natural selection and survival of the fittest are supposed to be the driving forces of progressive upward evolution. There are no selective benefits for a supposed transitional form. There would be no advantage for a creature to have a half-evolved eye or a half-evolved wing. Indeed, the existence of such structures would be detrimental and serve only to eliminate, not perpetuate, such disfigured organisms from a given population.

24. The presumed intermediates required by evolution do not exist. The missing links are missing because they are missing. Reptilian scales do not/cannot become feathers. These structures originate from different cells within the skin tissue. Reptilian lungs do not/cannot change to become avian (bird) lungs. Air flows in and out of reptilian lungs just as in humans. Bird lungs have a flow through design.

25. Living organisms are incredibly complex and have specific design features. In order to make this point please consider the following partial list: woodpecker tongue, Bombardier Beetle chemistry, insect metamorphosis, Giraffe heart and arterial system, Gecko feet and human eyes (or human brains for that matter).

26. Single-celled organisms such as bacteria, amoeba and algae have the same degree of complexity within them that multiple-celled organisms have within them. Single-celled organisms have a skeleton, respiratory system, digestion and elimination systems, circulatory system, reproductive system, command and communication system.

27. Life forms are irreducibly complex. To code for RNA production within a cell you must already have whole and complete DNA. To make DNA you must already have whole and complete RNA. In addition, it requires about 70 proteins to fabricate a DNA molecule, but you must have whole and complete DNA to fabricate those proteins.

28. When we see design we know that there is/was a designer. The human mind intrinsically knows the difference between randomness and design. When we see a plastic hair comb, one of the simplest structures ever designed and consisting of only one part, we know that it was designed and made through intelligent effort. A plastic hair comb does not come into existence by random chance.

If we see three stones sitting on the bottom of a clear stream we know that they got there by the random action of the water current. If we see the same three stones piled up one on top of the other sitting on the bank of that stream we know that an outside intelligence placed them there.

We see design throughout nature. For good health blood must clot when it gets outside the body, but must not clot inside the body. In addition, it must stop clotting and not continue to clot once exposed to the outside. The molecular motors which turn the cilia of cells look exactly like little electric motors complete with bearings, shaft and housing. Our bodies must make decisions to accept or reject foreign substances or our immunological system does not work. Our bodies must also manufacture effective countermeasures without killing us at the same time.

29. Charles Darwin stated that the existence of vestigial and retrogressive organs and structures in the human body were essential proofs of evolution. It has now been determined that there are NO vestigial or retrogressive organs or structures in a human body!

30. Evolutionary theories remain incapable of explaining the existence of sex, symbiosis or altruism.

I reiterate that the solution to evolution is education! If we teach the true facts of science and teach our people to think critically they will never believe the Just So Stories of the evolutionists.

Besides, what is so dangerous about the facts that support creation?

A belief in creation destroys the works of the Devil!

That is what is so important about it and why evolutionists cling to their faith position concerning it. Evolution is a religion of conveniences. The acceptance of evolution is the only way in which people may mentally justify that there is no God. The acceptance of evolution is the only way in which they may mentally justify that they may lead a sinless life with Jesus Christ. The Bible declares that this is manifest delusion.

Bryan #fundie blog.myspace.com

My point: For instance, while I usually think of lying is wrong, I think the germans who hid Anne Frank in their home did the right thing. So there are times when "bearing false witness" is the morally right thing to do.

The response: The deception is, taking only "well they hid Anne Frank" out of context without looking at the entire scope of who else it effected and how it effected them. We're only given the happy ending so we assume it's all okay. But as surely as Dr King Jr could effect change without breaking the law, change could have come about for Anne Frank without lying too.

Sierra Wright #fundie quora.com

WE ARE NOT WRONG. ALLAHS HEAD IS FILLED WITH HATE, AND ENVY, THE DEVIL HAS GRASPED ONTO HIS HEART.

It should be noted that all the facts used by the Christian in the above hypothetical conversation are true. Yes, God is the first cause, the designer of life, the resurrected Christ, the Author of Scripture, and the Savior of Christians. Yet the way these facts are used is not decisive. That is, none of the above arguments really prove that God exists.

Some of the above arguments are very weak: appeals to personal experience, vicious circular reasoning, and appeals to a first cause. While the facts are true, the arguments do not come close to proving the existence of the biblical God. Some of the arguments seem stronger; I happen to think that irreducible complexity and information in DNA are strong confirmations of biblical creation. And predictive prophecy does confirm the inspiration of Scripture. Nonetheless, for each one of these arguments, the atheist was able to invent a “rescuing device.” He was able to propose an explanation for this evidence that is compatible with his belief that God does not exist.

Moreover, most of the atheist’s explanations are actually pretty reasonable, given his view of the world. He’s not being illogical. He is being consistent with his position. Christians and atheists have different worldviews—different philosophies of life. And we must learn to argue on the level of worldviews if we are to argue in a cogent and effective fashion.

The Christian in the above hypothetical conversation did not have a correct approach to apologetics. He was arguing on the basis of specific evidences with someone who had a totally different professed worldview than his own. This approach is never conclusive, because the critic can always invoke a rescuing device to protect his worldview.1 Thus, if we are to be effective, we must use an argument that deals with worldviews, and not simply isolated facts. The best argument for the existence of God will be a “big-picture” kind of argument.

God Doesn’t Believe in Atheists

THE BIBLE TEACHES THAT ATHEISTS ARE NOT REALLY ATHEISTS.

The Bible teaches that atheists are not really atheists. That is, those who profess to be atheists do ultimately believe in God in their heart-of-hearts. The Bible teaches that everyone knows God, because God has revealed Himself to all (Romans 1:19). In fact, the Bible tells us that God’s existence is so obvious that anyone who suppresses this truth is “without excuse” (Romans 1:20). The atheist denies with his lips what he knows in his heart. But if they know God, then why do atheists claim that they do not believe in God?

The answer may be found in Romans 1:18. God is angry at unbelievers for their wickedness. And an all-powerful, all-knowing God who is angry at you is a terrifying prospect. So even though many atheists might claim that they are neutral, objective observers, and that their disbelief in God is purely rational, in reality, they are strongly motivated to reject the biblical God who is rightly angry with them. So they suppress that truth in unrighteousness. They convince themselves that they do not believe in God.2 The atheist is intellectually schizophrenic—believing in God, but believing that he does not believe in God.3

Therefore, we do not really need to give the atheist any more specific evidences for God’s existence. He already knows in his heart-of-hearts that God exists, but he doesn’t want to believe it. Our goal is to expose the atheist’s suppressed knowledge of God.4 With gentleness and respect, we can show the atheist that he already knows about God, but is suppressing what he knows to be true.

Exposing the Inconsistency

BECAUSE AN ATHEIST DOES BELIEVE IN GOD, BUT DOES NOT BELIEVE THAT HE BELIEVES IN GOD, HE IS SIMPLY A WALKING BUNDLE OF INCONSISTENCIES.

Because an atheist does believe in God, but does not believe that he believes in God, he is simply a walking bundle of inconsistencies. One type to watch for is a behavioral inconsistency; this is where a person’s behavior does not comport with what he claims to believe. For example, consider the atheist university professor who teaches that human beings are simply chemical accidents—the end result of a long and purposeless chain of biological evolution. But then he goes home and kisses his wife and hugs his children, as if they were not simply chemical accidents, but valuable, irreplaceable persons deserving of respect and worthy of love.

Consider the atheist who is outraged at seeing a violent murder on the ten o’clock news. He is very upset and hopes that the murderer will be punished for his wicked actions. But in his view of the world, why should he be angry? In an atheistic, evolutionary universe where people are just animals, murder is no different than a lion killing an antelope. But we don’t punish the lion! If people are just chemical accidents, then why punish one for killing another? We wouldn’t get upset at baking soda for reacting with vinegar; that’s just what chemicals do. The concepts that human beings are valuable, are not simply animals, are not simply chemicals, have genuine freedom to make choices, are responsible for their actions, and are bound by a universal objective moral code all stem from a Christian worldview. Such things simply do not make sense in an atheistic view of life.

Many atheists behave morally and expect others to behave morally as well. But absolute morality simply does not comport with atheism. Why should there be an absolute, objective standard of behavior that all people should obey if the universe and the people within it are simply accidents of nature? Of course, people can assert that there is a moral code. But who is to say what that moral code should be? Some people think it is okay to be racist; others think it is okay to kill babies, and others think we should kill people of other religions or ethnicities, etc. Who is to say which position should be followed? Any standard of our own creation would necessarily be subjective and arbitrary.

Now, some atheists might respond, “That’s right! Morality is subjective. We each have the right to create our own moral code. And therefore, you cannot impose your personal morality on other people!” But of course, this statement is self-refuting, because when they say, “you cannot impose your personal morality on other people” they are imposing their personal moral code on other people. When push comes to shove, no one really believes that morality is merely a subjective, personal choice.

Logical Inconsistency

Another inconsistency occurs when atheists attempt to be rational. Rationality involves the use of laws of logic. Laws of logic prescribe the correct chain of reasoning between truth claims. For example, consider the argument: “If it is snowing outside, then it must be cold out. It is snowing. Therefore, it is cold out.” This argument is correct because it uses a law of logic called modus ponens. Laws of logic, like modus ponens, are immaterial, universal, invariant, abstract entities. They are immaterial because you can’t touch them or stub your toe on one. They are universal and invariant because they apply in all places and at all times (modus ponens works just as well in Africa as it does in the United States, and just as well on Friday as it does on Monday). And they are abstract because they deal with concepts.

LAWS OF LOGIC STEM FROM GOD’S SOVEREIGN NATURE; THEY ARE A REFLECTION OF THE WAY HE THINKS.

Laws of logic stem from God’s sovereign nature; they are a reflection of the way He thinks. They are immaterial, universal, invariant, abstract entities, because God is an immaterial (Spirit), omnipresent, unchanging God who has all knowledge (Colossians 2:3). Thus, all true statements will be governed by God’s thinking—they will be logical. The law of non-contradiction, for example, stems from the fact that God does not deny Himself (2 Timothy 2:13). The Christian can account for laws of logic; they are the correct standard for reasoning because God is sovereign over all truth. We can know some of God’s thoughts because God has revealed Himself to us through the words of Scripture and the person of Jesus Christ.

However, the atheist cannot account for laws of logic. He cannot make sense of them within his own worldview. How could there be immaterial, universal, invariant, abstract laws in a chance universe formed by a big bang? Why should there be an absolute standard of reasoning if everything is simply “molecules in motion”? Most atheists have a materialistic outlook—meaning they believe that everything that exists is material, or explained by material processes. But laws of logic are not material! You cannot pull a law of logic out of the refrigerator! If atheistic materialism is true, then there could be no laws of logic, since they are immaterial. Thus, logical reasoning would be impossible!

Laws of Logic

No one is denying that atheists are able to reason and use laws of logic. The point is that if atheism were true, the atheist would not be able to reason or use laws of logic because such things would not be meaningful. The fact that the atheist is able to reason demonstrates that he is wrong. By using that which makes no sense given his worldview, the atheist is being horribly inconsistent. He is using God’s laws of logic, while denying the biblical God that makes such laws possible.

How could there be laws at all without a lawgiver? The atheist cannot account for (1) the existence of laws of logic, (2) why they are immaterial, (3) why they are universal, (4) why they do not change with time, and (5) how human beings can possibly know about them or their properties. But of course, all these things make perfect sense on the Christian system. Laws of logic owe their existence to the biblical God. Yet they are required to reason rationally, to prove things. So the biblical God must exist in order for reasoning to be possible. Therefore, the best proof of God’s existence is that without Him we couldn’t prove anything at all! The existence of the biblical God is the prerequisite for knowledge and rationality. This is called the “transcendental argument for God” or TAG for short. It is a devastating and conclusive argument, one that only a few people have even attempted to refute (and none of them successfully).5

Proof Versus Persuasion

Transcendental Argument

Though the transcendental argument for God is deductively sound, not all atheists will be convinced upon hearing it. It may take time for them to even understand the argument in the first place. As I write this chapter, I am in the midst of an electronic exchange with an atheist who has not yet fully grasped the argument. Real-life discussions on this issue take time. But even if the atheist fully understands the argument, he may not be convinced. We must remember that there is a difference between proof and persuasion. Proof is objective, but persuasion is subjective. The transcendental argument does indeed objectively prove that God exists. However, that does not mean that the atheists will necessarily cry “uncle.” Atheists are strongly motivated to not believe in the biblical God—a God who is rightly angry at them for their treason against Him.

THE ATHEIST’S DENIAL OF GOD IS AN EMOTIONAL REACTION, NOT A LOGICAL ONE.

But the atheist’s denial of God is an emotional reaction, not a logical one. We might imagine a disobedient child who is about to be punished by his father. He might cover his eyes with his hands and say of his father, “You don’t exist!” but that would hardly be rational. Atheists deny (with their lips) the biblical God, not for logical reasons, but for psychological reasons. We must also keep in mind that the unbeliever’s problem is not simply an emotional issue, but a deep spiritual problem (1 Corinthians 2:14). It is the Holy Spirit that must give him the ability to repent (1 Corinthians 12:3; 2 Timothy 2:25).

So we must keep in mind that it is not our job to convert people—nor can we. Our job is to give a defense of the faith in a way that is faithful to the Scriptures (1 Peter 3:15). It is the Holy Spirit that brings conversion. But God can use our arguments as part of the process by which He draws people to Himself.

David J Stewart #fundie #crackpot jesus-is-savior.com

It is very simple to be saved and takes only a minute to explain. Please let me show you how to get to Heaven from the Bible, God's Word...

Man is a Sinner in the Eyes of a Holy God.
Isaiah 53:6, “All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.”
Romans 3:19, “Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.”
John 3:3, “Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.”
Romans 3:10, “As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one.”
Romans 3:23, “For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God.”
There is a Price For Our Sin―Burning in Hell Forever.
Romans 6:23, “For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.”
Romans 5:12, “Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned.”
2nd Thessalonians 1:8, “In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ.”
Revelation 20:15, "And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.”
Revelation 21:8, “But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.”
Jesus paid that price by dying on the cross and shedding His blood; Christ was buried and bodily rose again the third day!
Romans 5:8, “But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.”
John 3:16, “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.”
1st Timothy 1:15, “This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.”
1st Peter 1:18-19, “Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers; But with the precious blood of Christ...”
1st Corinthians 15:1-4, “Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures.” This is the Gospel.
By faith in Jesus Christ ALONE we are immediately saved.
Galatians 3:26, “For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.”
John 11:25, “Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live.”
John 6:28-29, “Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God? Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.”
Ephesians 2:8-9, “For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.”
John 14:6, “Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.”
John 6:40, “And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.”
Mark 1:15, “And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.”
Acts 26:18, “To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me.”
Romans 10:13, “For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.”
1st Corinthians 3:11, "For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.”
Galatians 3:26, “For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.”
Salvation is NOT found in a religion or good works, but in a Person... The LORD JESUS CHRIST!

Simply BELIEVE the Gospel and You Are Saved!

The Heresy Of Having To “Pray” To Be Saved

Fundamentalist Heresy! (In this awesome sermon by Pastor Jack Hyles, he explains that prayer, turning from sins, inviting Jesus into your heart, and other popular clichés are not necessary to be saved. They are not wrong to do, just so long as you don't do them to get or stay saved!)

My friend, for most of my Christian life I have led people to pray a sinner's prayer to be saved. Although this is not wrong to do, it is an extra step that the Bible does NOT require, which may confuse some people. You don't have to “ask” Jesus to save you, because God has already promised “TO SAVE THEM THAT BELIEVE” (1st Corinthians 1:21). We read in John 3:16, “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, THAT WHOSOEVER BELIEVETH IN HIM should not perish, but have everlasting life” [emphasis added]. The way to be saved is to BELIEVE THE GOSPEL!!!

Do you admit that you are a GUILTY sinner, under the condemnation of God's LAW, deserving of Hellfire?

Do you believe that Jesus is the Son of God (God in the flesh) who died upon the cross, sacrificing His precious blood to pay for your sins? Do you believe that Jesus was buried and bodily resurrected three days later? This is the Good News of the Gospel... Jesus DIED ON THE CROSS, He was BURIED and He is RISEN! Believe it friend, make it your only hope for eternal life, and you are saved!!! Amen!

To be saved you simply come to God by faith, as a guilty sinner, and BELIEVE the Gospel.

You must know that you are a sinner. No man ever got saved who didn't know that he is a sinner. Repentance is that thing when you come before God and see yourself as you are, and see Him as he is, and say with Isaiah “Woe is me, for I am unclean!” Repentance is simply a change of mind, where you admit that you are a woeful sinner totally incapable of saving yourself. Thus, you believe the Gospel (Good News) of the Lord Jesus Christ to be saved.

Perhaps you'd feel comfortable praying a sinner's prayer as did the publican in Luke 18:13... “And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto Heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.” It doesn't matter exactly what you pray, because you're saved by BELIEVING, not by praying. But if you'd like to pray as an expression of your faith, you could pray something like this. ...

Dear Jesus,
I admit that I am a sinner deserving of Hell. I am guilty for breaking your holy commandments. I believe that you died on the cross to pay for my sins, were buried, and bodily resurrected three days later. Please forgive me of my sins and take me to Heaven when I die. I now believe upon You alone, apart from all self-righteous works and religion, as my personal Savior. Thank you. Amen.

Just as you were born physically to your parents, so you were born spiritually into the family of God when you received Jesus! John 1:12-13, “But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.”

Again, please understand that we are not saved because we pray a prayer, but because we BELIEVE upon the name of the Lord Jesus Christ. It is certainly appropriate to ask the Lord in prayer to forgive and save us, but it is our faith which prompts us to pray. You could just as easily believe in your heart upon the Lord to be saved, and not pray at all. Salvation is of the heart, as we read in Romans 10:10, “For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness...”

Likewise, it is an extra unnecessary step in God's plan of salvation, to require a person to walk down a church isle to be saved. Why cannot people be saved right there in their pew seat? They certainly can! Only God knows how many millions of people have gone to Hell, because they didn't want to walk down a church isle to find out how to be saved. Preachers should always give people a chance to be saved right there in the privacy of the pew. If they hear the Gospel preached and gladly receive (believe) it, they are saved (Acts 2:41).

It's not what you're doing that gets you to Heaven, it's where you're looking. Look to Jesus!

You do NOT have to be water baptized nor doing anything to get to Heaven other than trust upon the Lord as your Savior. Romans 4:5-6 proclaims... “But to him that worketh not, but believeth on Him (Jesus) that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness. Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God Imputeth Righteousness without works.” What a wonderful truth! Our faith is COUNTED for righteousness! God's righteousness is IMPUTED (transferred) to us, and our sins are IMPUTED to Christ.

There is NO self-righteousness (human effort) involved in salvation. It is the gift of God. You see, we have no righteousness of our own to offer God. No amount of good can undo the bad we've done. Jesus paid a debt that He did not owe, because we owed a debt that we could not pay. Salvation is receiving, not giving. We are sinners and Jesus is the Savior. Jesus is precious! We are saved by trusting, not by trying.

And please BEWARE my friend of the horrible heresy of WRONG REPENTANCE that says you must turn away from your sinful ways to be saved, because THAT IS NOT A GIFT! Of course God wants everyone to turn away from sinful behavior, but only because YOU ARE A CHRISTIAN, and not to BECOME A CHRISTIAN. The purpose of God's LAW is to give men the KNOWLEDGE OF SIN, to bring us to Christ (the Gospel of GRACE).

Unbelief is the only sin which can keep a sinner out of Heaven. But remember, faith is not the absence of doubt, but the presence of trust. Even if you have 99% doubt, it is nothing less than 100% faith if you call upon the name of the Lord (Romans 10:13). To “call” means to place your complete confidence in the Lord's death on the cross, burial and resurrection to be saved. We are saved by completely resting in the Good News (i.e., Gospel) of Jesus Christ.

Just take God at His word and claim His salvation by faith. Believe, and you will be saved. No church, no lodge, no good works can save you. Remember, God does the saving. All of it!

Trusting Jesus is meaningless without the cross. You must believe that Jesus died on the cross for your sins. 1st Corinthians 15:1-4 teaches that the Gospel is the death, burial and resurrection of the Lord Jesus Christ.

God's simple plan of salvation is: You are a sinner. Therefore, unless you believe on Jesus Who died in your place, you will spend eternity in Hell. If you believe on Him as your crucified, buried, and risen Savior, you receive forgiveness for all of your sins and His gift of eternal salvation by faith.

You say, “Surely, it cannot be that simple!” Yes, that simple. It is scriptural, it is God's plan. My friend, believe on Jesus and receive Him as Savior today.

If you've never been saved, then now is the time to believe upon the name of Jesus, the Christ, that your sins will be blotted out forever and you can know that your name is written in Heaven. Salvation is not doing your best, it is having Christ's best put to your account through receiving Him by faith. God will not save anyone who is trying to be saved, He will only save those who are trusting to be saved.

Christ died for your sins. You are a sinner by nature and by choice. Jesus took your sins and charged them to His own record. He went to the cross and paid the penalty for your sins. He says if you're willing to receive Him in faith; He will transfer His payment to your debt, and His righteousness to your sins. He will impute to you His goodness, and impute to His own record your sin; if you in faith will trust Him as your Savior.

Romans 8:34, “Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.”

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Kindest regards, your humble servant in Jesus Christ...
David J. Stewart

Rev. Dave Barley #fundie biblerays.com

All Christians need to carefully read and understand the importance and significance of Jesus' words: "it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one tittle of the law to fail." Remember that those are Jesus' words upholding God's Laws that have quoted for you. Now you've got to ask yourself, either I'm trying to deceive you into believing that God's Law is still in force, or I'm telling you the truth, and God's Law is still the measure of right and wrong. It's really quite simple actually, you will either acknowledge or obey God's Laws that establish and define what sin is, or you will trust man and his laws and policies to make this determination for you. But let me give such Christians that speak against sin, but have no idea how to define sin a little hint: 1 John 3:4, "Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law."

You may say, OK, but you still haven't explained how Jesus is against race-mixing. Well, simply stated, Jesus is against race-mixing because it is a SIN, a violation of His Divine Law, even His creative law which establishes a 'kind after kind' process in Genesis 1:21-26. You will notice that within these verses we are told, "every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind ... let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind", and so forth. Question, if the fowl have their different kinds and types, and the cattle their different kinds and types, and the fish their kind and types etc., then it should be equally obvious and true that then are also different kinds and types of man. In other words, in nature as God created them, there is a natural inbred knowledge and instinct of separation within all species of animals. There are different types and variety of eagles such as the Bald eagle, the Golden eagle, White-tailed eagle, Short-toed eagle, and Imperial eagle. All of these eagles are of the same genetic family, but they are not the same progeny or breed.

The same holds true for the different variety of bipeds. God Almighty did not make a mistake in creating the different races of people. In fact, the principle "what God hath puttogether, let no man put asunder" is very much applicable to the 'kind after kind' principle. Kind after kind is the creation rule and carnal minded man grossly violated this principle of Divine creation.

Again, look over these verses in Genesis 1. The Word of God repetitiously puts forth this directive that every winged fowl was to mate "after his kind," and every "living creature after his kind," and this principle does not exclude people. The Golden eagle is not of the Bald eagle kind, therefore the two breeds do not mix their seed. They stay separate and the same principle holds true for people. Within humans, there are a variety of breeds or kinds, such as Indian, Asiatic, Negro, Aboriginal, and White/Anglo people, and according to God's Creation Laws, these different kinds, or breeds of mankind are not to interbreed or engage in race-mixing.

All variety of animals, fish, birds, insects, etc. are unique and distinct, and they have remained so since their creation, except where man has interfered and perverted their natural breeding habits. Again, there are a number of varieties within the bird family, but the varieties of breeds do not mix their seed with other breeds. Canadian Geese mate only with Canadian Geese, Red-breasted Geese only mate with Red-breasted Geese, the Grey goose only mates with other Grey geese and so forth. In the animal world, the Elk only mates with Elk. You won't see them mating with mule deer or a Moose. Orangutans only mate with Orangutans. They don't mate with Gorillas or other species of monkeys.

thorin25 #fundie healingcd.wordpress.com

Steps for Giving up and Stopping Crossdressing:

I thought it would be helpful to compile a list of good beginning steps for those who want to give up crossdressing for good. This is just a starting point for those who wish to stop crossdressing completely. Stopping crossdressing altogether is a long process, and there is much more that could be said and be done, besides the brief steps I’ve outlined here. But for those that want to finally overcome crossdressing in their lives, this is a good place to begin.

These steps are in an order. The order is just my own opinion on what I think would be most helpful. Obviously many people will disagree with these steps, or the order, or that crossdressing even needs to be stopped. But for those that do want to stop crossdressing, I hope this can be somewhat helpful for you.

It can take a long time to stop. For myself, I was doing almost all of these things for about 10 years and it still took until last year for me to stop completely. For me, I think primarily I was missing the belief that it was really possible to stop (Step #2). I knew logically that it was possible, but it just seemed too unlikely until I found others online who had already given up crossdressing. Then I was like, “hey if they can stop for good, I can too.” It was like a light bulb turned on and stopping finally was attainable and I finally stopped crossdressing for good.

1. Desire to stop crossdressing.

The first step obviously is that you have to actually want to stop crossdressing. Maybe you think crossdressing is sinful and so you want to stop. Maybe you think its destructive in your life and so you want to stop. Maybe its harming your marriage and so you want to stop. Maybe you are just afraid of the reality of getting caught. But whatever the case may be, the first step has to be some desire to stop. If you aren’t to that point yet, consider reading these posts.

2. Believe that it is possible to stop crossdressing.

Make yourself inundated with the truth about crossdressing and the ability to stop it by reading through the posts on my website, as well as the posts on the fellow fighters’ websites that I have links to on my homepage. Spend some hours reading. Read and watch testimonies on my links page. Most crossdressers are stuck in the belief that it is impossible to stop crossdressing and are stuck in the self-deception of crossdressing. Read some new perspectives from these websites.

3. Decide to stop crossdressing.

Following this desire to stop crossdressing and the belief that it is possible, make a firm decision for yourself that you are going to fight to stop crossdressing and get it out of your life. Make this a clear firm moment in your life and maybe even write down the date. We always have the freewill to make such a decision. After you make the decision, make a plan of attack for yourself. Don’t leave things up to chance. Change your old habits. Make a detailed strategy and plan to fight crossdressing.

4. Pray.

If you are not a Christian, I think figuring out what you believe about the meaning of life, what you believe about God, is far more important than anything to do with crossdressing. It’s more important that you think about life and death and why we exist than to read my website.

For those who already have a relationship with Jesus, prayer is vital. There are few components to this. 1. Prayer of confession and repentance and asking God’s forgiveness for past crossdressing and related sins. 2. Prayers of thanksgiving for forgiveness, salvation, and God’s love. 3. Prayer to ask God for help to overcome the crossdressing addiction. 4. Prayer as just talking to God, growing in your relationship with him. Praise him, thank him, worship him, talk to him. Become more intimate and purposeful in your relationship with God. Continue with this step until you die ??

5. Read, study, and memorize Scripture.

Delve into Scripture, the Bible, God’s Word. Fill your mind with truth. Fill your mind with God’s promises of forgiveness and grace. Fill your mind with God’s promises of him giving us the power to resist sin. Learn about God. Read about Jesus’ life. Grow in your relationship with him. Follow the Bible’s instruction about how to life a full, joyful, fulfilling, fruitful life as God intended. Continue with this step until you die as well.

6. Get rid of temptations.

Giving up crossdressing will be extremely difficult at first. To help ourselves as much as possible we need to try to lessen the amount of triggers and temptations in our lives. One obvious first step is getting rid of any secret stash of clothing right away. Take it to Goodwill and be done with it. There is no reason for you to keep it. If you think you might go back to crossdressing someday and therefore it would be a waste to get rid of the clothes, then, (in my opinion), you really haven’t committed to stopping yet. You need to go back to some of the first few steps again.

If the internet is a problem for you, consider getting an internet filter. If your wife’s clothing being left out is a problem for you, consider telling her what she can to help you better. Don’t do things that are technically “okay” if they will trigger your addiction. For me that meant little things like not wearing an apron. Be wise about how you take trips. Grow a beard so that crossdressing will be less satisfying and easy. (Plus this also might help you to feel more like a man again)

Be careful about being alone so much of the time. Get around other people. Spend more time with friends or outside hobbies. Fill your time with something different things.

I think it is important to stop crossdressing cold turkey rather than through gradual lessening of crossdressing in the attempt to lessen the desires and temptations. However, there are other forms of conditioning/unconditioning, mostly done with counselors, that could be helpful in stopping crossdressing.

Consider fasting – Fasting can be a good recovery tool.

Don’t expect it to be easy to heal from this addiction. Don’t expect it to be easy to reduce the temptations. You would put a lot of time into learning a language or an instrument. You would put a lot of effort into getting rid of a drug addiction. Why expect this to be different?

7. Dealing with temptations that come

It’s one thing to get rid of as many temptations as we can. But what do we do when temptations do make it through to us? What can we do when we suddenly have a strong desire to put on our wife’s sexy black high heels or really want to read the latest crossdressing fiction story online? We have to be ready to deal with the temptations and desires we will inevitably still experience. Here are a few ideas.

First of all, stick to your commitment not to give in to crossdressing at all. And I would add, do not to let yourself fantasize about crossdressing at all. You don’t need to kick yourself for having a crossdressing thought come into your mind. But don’t let yourself dwell in pleasurable crossdressing fantasies. If you want to really successfully stop crossdressing and find healing from it, you have to fight these fantasies as well. Fantasizing about it only adds more power to it, and you’ll probably eventually manifest the fantasies through concrete actions of crossdressing. (Not to mention God cares about what goes on in our hearts and minds beyond just what we do).

But this is not to say we should suppress our crossdressing desires. When they come we should acknowledge them and deal with them. Trying to ignore them or bury them will probably either just cause them to bubble forth like a volcano at some later point, or cause you mental anguish. It’s important we be honest with ourselves about the thoughts that come into our minds, but then deal with them without burying them.

Something I’ve found most helpful is telling myself affirmations of truth during times of temptation. I break through the crossdressing rationalizations and lies by reminding myself, “I don’t really want to crossdress.” “I don’t want to sin because I love God and am thankful for his forgiveness.” “I always feel stupid after crossdressing.”

I also have found distractions to be helpful during times of temptations. The sexual power of crossdressing temptations often makes me lose my head. But if I do something else briefly, rational thinking returns and the strong temptation subsides. For me playing an engaging video game helps a lot. For others it could be playing an instrument, taking a walk, working out, etc.

It also helps to have some way to get rid of sexual build up and tension. For those of us who are married, finding ways to have more sexual or just physical time with our wife can be very helpful. And if you’ve opened up to her about your fight against your crossdressing addiction, she may be more willing to help you out with more sexual time together. Another way to release the sexual tension is to use masturbation as a crutch. But you have to be careful with this one.

For many crossdressers it might be nearly impossible to masturbate while thinking about anything other than crossdressing. If this is the case, you may have to avoid masturbation altogether. But for me, I found it very helpful to give up crossdressing and increase my desire for my wife by thinking about her while masturbating. It took discipline. But releasing that sexual tension at times was very helpful when tempted.

8. Get some accountability.

Realize that you probably are not going to be successful doing this alone. Find others in your life to support you, some for indirect support, and some people for direct support who know about your crossdressing struggle. Part of this support could be going to church. It could be finding a specific church small group to admit your struggle to. It could be joining a sex addicts anonymous group.

It could include telling a couple close friends about your addiction and getting their encouragement and accountability. It could involve telling your wife. Telling close friends and my wife was immensely helpful to me. We all need people to confess our sins to because when we confess to someone, temptations lose their power over us. We need people to ask us regularly how we are doing. We need people who will stick by us through thick and thin. We need people who will encourage us. We need people who will celebrate with us when we are successful at beating crossdressing, and people who will help pick us back up and remind us of God’s grace at times that we fail. We need to commit to telling the truth if we are going to be successful.

I’d highly encourage you to tell your wife about your crossdressing struggle. Being a woman, and being in such an intimate relationship with you puts her in a unique position. Just telling her will help you, even though it could be very painful for both of you at first. But the truth may just set you both free. Having your wife know brings a reality check to your actions that is hard to match. She can help you realize the foolishness of what you were doing and encourage you in your new fight against it. She can help you think through your own personality and struggle with crossdressing. I also think this kind of honesty is terribly vital for such an important and intimate relationship like marriage. Crossdressing is something that has shaped your entire life, and it would help her to understand you better to know about it.

You also might want to consider confessing sins of crossdressing to your wife, sister, mother, or others in your life that you might have confused or hurt by your crossdressing, as well as asking them for forgiveness. Last, I have an email prayer list I’ve created for those of us who are fighting and struggling together or have a heart to pray for those who are struggling. It’s a great way to receive prayer and help from others who are also fighting crossdressing

9. Find a valuable purpose in life and positive ways to use your energy

I think a lot of us can’t seem to give up our struggle with crossdressing we don’t take life very seriously. We don’t get much fulfillment out of other things in life. We are just ticking the time away, not working hard at our jobs, not finding ways to contribute to the world and help other people. We have no ultimate purpose in life, such as the purpose of loving God, living for him, and loving other people because of God’s love for us. If life is pretty meaningless for you, and nothing really stretches you, or gives you joy and fulfillment, then of course you’d keep turning back to crossdressing or pornography for fleeting pleasures. So my first piece of advice here again is to find your ultimate purpose and meaning in life in God. And then figure out what his specific purpose is for you in your life. What has he created you to do? How can he use you to impact the world and make it a better place in some small but meaningful ways?

Besides just finding a purpose in life, we need positive ways to use our energy. Volunteering, helping people out, fun hobbies, and getting involved in church are just a few ways to learn how to spend our time differently. Instead of spending all of our free time hiding in closets in our wives’ clothes, we can do things that have value, and things that help others. Try something new. Read some good books. Stretch yourself out of your comfort zone. Find some adventure in life beyond crossdressing.

I also include in this step rediscovering who we are as men. Start letting your male traits out. Enjoy being a man. Have your wife affirm your manhood. Upgrade your male wardrobe. Enjoy taking care of your appearance as a man. Enjoy looking good as a man.

Find out what the Bible says about true manhood and personhood. Many of the stereotypes about masculinity and femininity in our culture are at best stifling, and at worst destructive, and may even have contributed to our developing desires for crossdressing. Learn to integrate the contrasting aspects of your personality that were divided into your male self and crossdressing self. Be a whole complete human being. Those aspects of your personality that you stifled in order to be a man of our culture, and which came out in your crossdressing times, integrate them into your real self.

Last, a little tidbit. Take your desire for female beauty and interest in fashion and point it towards your girlfriend or wife. Talk to her about fashion and what you find beautiful. Go shopping with her and help her find things that look good on her. You can enjoy the female clothes in the way they were supposed to be enjoyed by you, that is, on your wife or girlfriend. This way you can utilize your healthy attention to female beauty in a healthy non-deceitful way.

10. Make peace with the reality that the temptations might never go away.

Like most temptations to sin, the reality is that the temptations might never completely go away. This is just the reality and should not make us depressed. Treat crossdressing like an addiction. An alcoholic might always have certain small desires to drink, but they continue to resist the rest of their life. Similarly, we might desire it at times for the rest of our lives, but we can still resist. And we can still lead a healthy fulfilling life.

But don’t focus so much on the future, just to take things one day at a time. The day’s problems and temptations are enough to worry about.

I would like to encourage you though that it is of course possible for your crossdressing desires to completely go away. Each person is different and there are some who seem to have no more temptations. For me, my crossdressing desires are largely nonexistent these days. Once in a while, rarely, I’ll have some crossdressing temptations, but they’ve become easy to resist. I think that for any of us who stop crossdressing, after the first really hard withdrawal period, the crossdressing temptations slowly start to lessen in strength.

11. Deal with failure in a healthy way.

If you fail, spend time confessing to God and enjoying his forgiveness, and then get going again in your fight against crossdressing. Don’t let Satan use your failure for evil. Satan hits us hard in our failures. He loves to make us wallow in condemnation, thinking we aren’t good enough to be forgiven by God. It’s true we aren’t good enough, but God forgives us because of his merciful and loving nature, not because we deserve forgiveness. And Satan also likes to use failure to make us think we have no power over sin and so we might as well give up. But God promises us that he has given us the power to resist any temptation that comes our way.

Satan also likes to encourage us to conquer sin using our own strength. This only leads to failure or pride. The true way to fight sin, is to find joy in God’s forgiveness, and be transformed by that forgiveness and grace. Then we fight sin, not for our own pride, not using our own strength, but we do it with God’s strength. We fight sin out of thanksgiving for God’s grace, not in order to earn God’s grace. Keep going back to God’s forgiveness and grace. It should be the motivation for all the good that we do. We aren’t trying to earn anything.

12. Try to understand yourself more deeply.

I’m convinced that an important part of the healing process from crossdressing, is trying to understand ourselves more deeply. Rather than just stopping crossdressing and leaving it in the past, we should spend some time researching, studying, and thinking about what caused us to develop the crossdressing desires we have. But be careful about doing this. Wait until you’ve successfully stopped crossdressing for a while, otherwise studying it and thinking about it could cause you to stumble.

When you are in a safe place in your journey of giving up crossdressing ask yourself these questions. What emotions and thoughts were going on behind the actions and behind the temptations? Think about how crossdressing has shaped your personality both positively and negatively. How did God use this part of your past for good, or how will he use it for good? Think through gender issues. Think through personality issues. Think through the ways crossdressing has affected your life. You could also consider seeing a counselor to help you work through these issues, but realize you may know far more about crossdressing and its effects than your counselor. It’s a subject that hasn’t been studied enough. Further, many counselors seem to think its harmless and don’t realize how destructive it can be.

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Yet more evidence emerges that our universe is a grand simulation created by an intelligent designer

(NaturalNews) There's a lot of buzz in the news about a new scientific study that statistically supports the idea that our known universe is actually a grand computer simulation. This is mainstream science, and the idea isn't a whacky as you might first suppose. I've actually written about this several times in articles about consciousness and the nature of reality. This news, by the way, also supports the idea of a Creator who brought this universe -- and everything in it -- into existence by design.

A new scientific paper published in arXiv and co-authored by Silas Beane from the University of Bonn reveals strong statistical evidence that our reality is, indeed, a grand computer simulation. The title of the paper is Constraints on the Universe as a Numerical Simulation.

Here's what it means in layman's terms
Here's the super easy way to understand all this. Your computer display screen has a finite number of pixels available, and this is called the "screen resolution" such as 1920 x 1440. This means there are 1920 pixels across and 1440 pixels vertically.

Everything you see on your computer screen must be drawn and depicted using these pixels, and nothing can be displayed that's only half a pixel. For example, you can't draw a vertical line on the screen that exists between the pixels that are hard-wired into the screen resolution. Everything you view on the monitor -- a computer game, a website, even a video -- is essentially transposed onto the "lattice" of pixels that exist in your hardware.

Your hardware, in effect, has a hard-wired "resolution limit" which defines the smallest size of any object that can be depicted on the screen.

Now, zoom out to the "real" world in which we live. Here in the real world, we think that there are no pixels and that we can move fluidly to any location we wish. We are not digitized being, we think; we're analog beings living in a fluid world without the pixelation of a computer screen, right?

Not so fast. As it turns out, our "reality" is also pixelated, just at a very fine resolution. This study out of Bonn revealed that the energy level of cosmic rays "snaps to" the "resolution" of the universe in which we live. The very laws of electromagnetic radiation, in other words, are confined by the resolution of the three-dimensional simulation we call a "universe."

The existence of this construct, if proven, also proves intelligent design by a conscious Creator who built the universe to begin with. This is the upshot of this scientific discovery that most scientists refuse to acknowledge. But the conclusion is inescapable: If our universe is a carefully-constructed simulation, then by definition there must have been a purpose behind its construction as well as a Creator who built it.

For the record, my personal belief is that the Creator set all the physical constants in the universe and then initiated the so-called "Big Bang" and let things play out from there. I do not believe our Creator "tinkers" with the universe at a micro level on a day-to-day basis. But I do believe there very well may have been individuals throughout history who found ways to "bend the rules" of the Matrix ever so slightly and thereby perform the very kind of miracles we see described in ancient texts.

"The structure of the underlying lattice"
The authors of this new paper describe their conclusion as following: "The numerical simulation scenario could reveal itself in the distributions of the highest energy cosmic rays exhibiting a degree of rotational symmetry breaking that reflects the structure of the underlying lattice."

This "underlying lattice" is what I'm describing as a "resolution" of our physical simulation.

There's other evidence of this, too: Plank's Constant, for example, is by itself yet more evidence that the physical universe in which we live is quantized to a particular resolution. In fact, even light behaves in a quantized manner, which is why "light packets" are called quanta.

Our universe, it turns out, is digital, not analog. Heck, even your DNA is digital, not analog. You are a digitized physical being imbued with a non-material consciousness that transcends this physical simulation. Realizing this is a lot like taking the red pill in The Matrix and being shown that the universe you thought was real is actually just a grand computer simulation.

Of course, once you grasp that we are living in a grand simulation, the next obvious question is: Who built it?

Intelligent Design
One obvious answer is that we built it! Not "we" the humans here on Earth, but rather the "we" which is a highly advanced civilization of seemingly supernatural beings with incomprehensibly powerful technology. We collectively built the simulation, the theory goes, and then agreed to selectively insert our consciousness into the simulation in order to have a "human life experience" on this planet. But that's only one possibility from all this.

Another possible answer is that HE built it. Who is He? He is God, our Creator. He is a consciousness with literal God-like powers who is omnipresent and all-powerful. He created our universe (i.e. designed and then launched the simulation) while providing a mechanism for free will consciousness to "wake up" inside the simulation in the bodies of newly-born beings. Upon death in the simulation, your consciousness leaves the simulation and returns to its source, which is the actual reality that transcends this one. This is possibly why people who have survived near-death experiences consistently report their experience as being a "hyper reality" that feels like it is "a thousand times more real than life on Earth."

For the record, I have always believed in a supernatural Creator of our universe; our God. I also believe -- and have good evidence -- that God is an all-loving being and that the overriding purpose of our existence in this universe is to express our free will and thereby have a self-aware experience which advances our knowledge of who we are. More details on this below...

What would be the purpose of intelligently designing a grand computer simulation?
If our universe was consciously created, then it must have been created for a purpose. In his book Proof of Heaven, near-death survivor Dr. Eben Alexander, a neurosurgeon, describes the purpose in great detail on page 48 of his book:

Through the Orb, [God] told me that there is not one universe but many -- in fact, more than I could conceive -- but that love lay at the center of them all. Evil was present in all the other universes as well, but only in the tiniest trace amounts. Evil was necessary because without it free will was impossible, and without free will there could be no growth -- no forward movement, no chance for us to become what God longed for us to be. Horrible and all-powerful as evil sometimes seemed to be in a world like ours, in the larger picture love was overwhelmingly dominant, and it would ultimately be triumphant.

The primary purpose of life in this realm, it seems, is to experience personal growth and learn how to overcome Evil. This explains why we all seem to be surrounded by so much evil on a day-to-day basis. We are drowning in evil precisely because our souls chose to be here and learn how to defeat it.

At the end of our Earthly lives, we are then judged on our performance. As I wrote in a previous article:

Upon our death, we are judged by a higher power, and that judgment takes into account our performance in these areas. Did we achieve a measure of self-awareness? Did we work to overcome evil? Did we express love and compassion and help uplift others with knowledge and awareness?

As you've probably already figured out, the vast majority of humans fail these tests. They die as bitter, selfish, substance-addicted, greed-driven minions of evil who mistakenly thought they were winning the game of life while, in reality, they were losing the far more important test of the Creator.

Looking around at our fellow human beings, you can't help but agree with my assessment that nearly everyone is failing the test. If we are here to overcome and resist evil, very few people are scoring very many points at all.

Having your consciousness attached to a human experience in this world seems to be the universal equivalent of "being thrown in the deep end" of Good vs. Evil. Making matters even more difficult, none of us is granted any sort of memory of why we are here and what we're supposed to do. We simply wake up as a newborn, and we have to figure things out for ourselves -- a challenge that often takes a lifetime. In fact, the achievement of "enlightenment" in a human lifetime is quite a remarkable feat by any measure.

What this means for your life
So what does all this mean in terms of the way you live your life here on Earth? If you believe the universe really is a grand simulation created by a higher power, then it forces you to rethink your philosophy on the purpose of life.

Some might say this is the perfect excuse to resort to selfish hedonism and turn your entire life into one vast entertainment parade. But that seems to be the wrong conclusion from all this, precisely because it ignores the importance of personal growth. I do not believe our universe is a childish playground; I believe it is a serious test of spiritual strength. You may or may not agree with all my points, but here's my philosophy on what to do with this realization:

#1) Don't chase material things that aren't even real in the first place. You are living in a simulation that's as un-real as an old 8-bit Atari computer game. Your focus on trying to collect money and wealth in this world is about as foolish as trying to collect gold coins in a role-playing computer game.

#2) Live your life to WIN the simulation. "Winning" means persistently working to defeat evil, demonstrate love and help awaken others. Rack up your "karma" points, so to speak. Because that's how you will be judged once your earthly life comes to an end.

#3) Know that your behavior is being watched, recorded and judged. There are ultimately no secrets. You will, in time, face judgment on all your actions, and it's even possible that an entire civilization of advanced Creators will review your actions with you. (This is what is often described by those who survive NDEs.) Your actions in this simulation are recorded on your soul for eternity, so make them count. Don't do anything your soul would feel ashamed of.

#4) Know that death is not final. What matters far more than staying alive on this planet is living your life with principle. Your decisions (ethics) survive your human life! I would rather die defending principles of love and enlightenment than compromise those principles to save my own skin in this simulation. Life is fleeting, but the record of your morals and behavior lasts forever. If all this starts to sound a little Biblical, that's because the Bible is, I believe, based in part on information provided to us by the Creator of our grand simulation.

#5) Realize that your consciousness is eternal and you almost certainly "agreed" to come here and experience this life as a spiritual test. With that in mind, do your best to achieve success within the test by demonstrating behavior based in high spiritual principles.

Why I'm not afraid to tell the truth
Once you grasp all this, you realize why I am not afraid to speak my mind and report the truth here on Natural News. People often ask me, "Aren't you afraid of being killed?" While I do take tactical precautions to avoid being prematurely removed from this simulation, I simultaneously realize that there is ultimately nothing to be afraid of in this simulated world.

What's to be afraid of, really? Most of the people who claim to have power in this world will be reduced to Hellish minions after their death. If you look at truly evil people in this world, you realize that those people have already doomed their souls in the real world beyond this one. They will suffer from the Hell they have brought upon themselves by living lives of deception. We who tell the truth are spiritual giants compared to those who gain false power through deception.

That's why never selling out is an absolutely must if you hope to pass the spiritual test of life. If you sell out to corporate interests or an evil agenda that suppresses freedom or health, you quite literally sell out your own soul far beyond this one lifetime. The phrase "eternal damnation" comes to mind...

On the issue of gun rights, by the way, all this helps explain why self defense is a divine right. We all deserve the right to prevent our souls from being prematurely removed from the simulation (i.e. being killed). Guns are simply tools that can help us defend our physical bodies so that our spiritual bodies can continue with their intended experiences in this reality. This is why those of high spirituality have traditionally carried swords and other weapons of self defense. Even Jesus recommend people carry swords for protection, even as they pursue spiritual awakening.

A gun defends the body so that the spirit can do its work, in other words. But that's only true if the use of gun is reserved for self defense only. To use a gun to commit unjustified violence against innocents is obviously a terrible sin and a catastrophic spiritual failure.

Conclusion: Has science proven the existence of God?
If all this science is true, it would mean that science has proven the existence of a Creator (as well as intelligent design).

This is certainly not the intention of science, as much of modern-day science seems to be dead-set against the idea of intelligent design. Yet even if the entire universe can be traced back to the Big Bang and Inflation Theory (with Inflatons) there is still the lingering question of "Who or what initiated the Big Bang?"

If you really look deeply into the laws of physics, by the way, you will discover that the so-called universal constants that drive the underlying mechanics and energies of our universe have been intricately fine-tuned precisely to give rise to a universe that can support biological life. Change one of these constants just slightly and stars don't form. Change another constant and the universe flings itself apart before life can form on any planets. These are at least six physical constants that appear to have been delicately tuned, selected or somehow "set" sort of like a universal control panel with properties and parameters.

There's an interesting book on this subject by science writer Paul Davies, by the way. It's called The Goldilocks Enigma: Why Is the Universe Just Right for Life? I've read most of it and recommend the book to other seekers who are looking for the deepest answers about the nature of reality and how it all came to be.

If you're interested in my own views on all this, read my article on The Higgs boson "God particle".

You may also enjoy reading my other website called www.DivinityNow.com where I post articles on consciousness, cosmology and philosophy.

(Submitter's notes: Emphasis original. The article is actually only about what we may expect to find if we are living in a a relatively primitive simulation. Here is a video debunking Adams.)

David J. Stewart #fundie jesus-is-savior.com

I do NOT hate anyone here at Jesus-is-Savior.com; on the contrary, I LOVE people very much. The whole purpose of my ministry is to HELP people. There is a war on for our minds and souls. I do not discriminate in any way. I simply present the truth, particularly the truth of God's Word, and expose those who seek to distort, confuse, and corrupt the truth. The Devil is a beautiful liar. The best way to expose the darkness is to shine the light. John 8:45, “And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.” —Jesus Christ

Galatians 4:16, “Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?” —The Apostle Paul I do NOT intend to be unkind to anyone. I simply speak the truth. My website preaches to me as much as anyone else. I do NOT hate anybody. What I DO hate is evil and damnable heresies that ruin people’s lives and lead them into Hell. "The fear of the LORD is to HATE evil..." —Proverb 8:13

I do NOT hate the sinner, no not one. As Christians we like people for their good qualities, but we are supposed to love them despite their faults. No one is perfect. In fact, Jesus only died for “the ungodly.” Romans 5:6... “For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly.” —Romans 5:6

There is no sinner that God doesn't love. Only a hypocritical, self-righteous person would claim that God doesn't love the worst sinner. Christ died for the UNGODLY, which is what you and I are. There is hope for anyone who acknowledges their guilt of sin and looks to Jesus Christ for forgiveness. It's not what you're doing that gets you to Heaven, it's where you're looking. Look to Jesus!

No one hates sin any more than God, yet He sent His only begotten Son in the flesh to die for men's sins... "But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us." —Romans 5:8

“Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, HATRED, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.” —Galatians 5:19-21

“Hatred” of people is a work of the flesh, it is sin. Hatred is normal for the unsaved or “carnal man” who is living in sin, but the Bible teaches that hatred of people is not acceptable with God. God wants believers to be “spiritually minded.” God's love is an unconditional love, which is not dependent upon how people live or treat us. Few people understand the love of God, that sent Jesus to die for the sins of a rotten world that deserves nothing better than eternal punishment in Hell. If God didn't unconditionally love sinners, including the unsaved, then all humanity would immediately plunge into the depths of Hell. The Bible teaches that humanity is prone to DISOBEDIENCE and WRATH...

“Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the CHILDREN OF DISOBEDIENCE: Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the CHILDREN OF WRATH, even as others.” —Ephesians 2:2,3

God describes humanity as the “children of disobedience” and the “children of wrath.” Human nature is prone to disobey God. History evidences that mankind is destined to war and destruction. There is so much hatred in the world today. It's a dog-eat-dog world. We see much hatred in the manure-spreading newsmedia. We see much hatred in today's youth, who despise Christianity and have been taught to feel sympathy for godless homosexuals and abortionists. Very few people these days genuinely love the God of the Bible. "All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned EVERY ONE to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all." —Isaiah 53:6

As believers in the Lord Jesus Christ, we are NOT supposed to hate anyone. The Bible commands us to hate sin and evil, but never the people. This is not to say that we ought to sinfully compromise and yoke together with heathens, it just means that we are no better than anyone else and we'd all immediately plunge into Hell if it weren't for God's grace. As mentioned already, this is NOT a hate sight. It is actually a “Love Site.” My love for the Lord prompts me to contend for the faith and exercise my God-given religious freedom. Our rights do not come from the Bill of Rights or the U.S. Constitution, they come from God Almighty. The Constitution only outlines our rights. We are born with certain inalienable rights. One of these rights is the freedom of speech. Evil men may take that right away from us, but God certainly doesn't. We have a right to speak out against the evil and corruption hurting our community.

As a matter of fact, God commands us to refute evil. Ephesians 5:11, "And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them." I mean no harm to anyone, nor do I seek to offend. The truth may hurt, but it needs to be spoken. The truth makes some people mad. The truth offends most people. Is it any wonder why God calls us “the children of disobedience?”

John 8:40, “But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth…” —Jesus Christ

Hopefully you will find this ministry a blessing and a benefit (as so many have). If you are offended, please know that it was not my intention. It is the truth that offends people, not me. I am not trying to upset anyone, though the truth often upsets people. I am just a voice. I am only expressing my heart-felt Christian beliefs. It is my hope that you will “have mercy on me” as you browse over my website, i.e., my ministry. Surely with all of the truths on a website this large, something will rub you the wrong way. I respect your right to disagree. It's ok to agree to disagree. I do not mean to offend anyone; however, I make no apologies for speaking the truth.

I do NOT enjoy upsetting people. There's hardly a day that passes when I'm not surprised by something new I've learned. My website is the accumulation of 7-years of things I have learned, and I've just scratched the surface. You needn't believe anything I say; but rather, verify the facts for yourself. I avoid topics such as UFO's that cannot be verified. There's a lot of deliberate misinformation on the internet, intended to discredit legitimate websites that promote the truth. I want to deal in FACTS, which cannot be explained away.

I praise God for the Constitutional right to express my opinion. This is every American's right. My purpose is NOT to attack people, God forbid. I am simply trying to expose false teachings and false religions, that send men and women to Hellfire by the tens-of-thousands every day. When you love someone, you tell them the truth, even if it makes you unpopular. I recently went to the grocery store. I had a nice conversation with a young man and a young woman who worked for the store. The young man helped to unload my groceries and place them onto the checkout counter. I thanked him. The young woman was working the register. He rolled the cart to the end of the counter and left a case of root beer in the cart. I mentioned the case of root beer to the cashier, but she didn't charge me for it. I knew they were trying to be friendly and I knew they were trying to give me a free case of root beer, but I couldn't allow them to do it.

I again asked her if she had charged me for the case of root beer and then she apologized for missing it. She couldn't look me in the eye when she handed me my credit card back. They had tried to steal from the store to be nice to me. I wanted to make friends with them and didn't like refusing their token of kindness, but it was wrong, it wasn't their food to give away. Although I felt bad, and they felt bad, I did the right thing. I spoke the truth. I would rather have no friends than have thieves as friends. I am not perfect, but I have enough things to answer to God for without adding more to it. At some point in life, we need to get serious about serving God. If we love God, then we'll make an effort to do right.

2nd Thessalonians 2:10, “And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.” The Bible teaches in 2nd Thessalonians 2:10 that many people will be deceived in the Last Days by the Antichrist because they received not the love of the truth. The truth is important. The Word of God is truth (John 17:17).

“Be ye angry, and sin not: let not the sun go down upon your wrath.” —Ephesians 4:26

May I say, it’s ok to be angry. Jesus became angry when the priests had turned God's house into a den of thieves. However, notice the next part of the verse we just read... “and sin not.” Jesus became angry, but he didn't sin. Jesus never sinned (2nd Corinthians 5:21). As an example: I hate abortion! I think abortion is cold-blooded murder. Less than .01% of total abortions are caused by incidents of rape and incest. Yet, these extremes are often used to justify all abortions. Ninety-nine percent of all abortions are simply the evil deeds of irresponsible people. HOWEVER, I don't hate anyone involved with abortion, not one bit. I love them because God has commanded us to love all people. Don’t you think that if God wanted to put an end to this mess, He could? Of course God could! And He will friend, in His own time.

Psalm 47:8, "God reigneth over the heathen: God sitteth upon the throne of his holiness."

I can't say much about blocking abortion clinics, because I would jump right in front of the door if it were my child about to be murdered. The Bible commands me to love my neighbor as myself (Leviticus 19:18). If that were me about to be aborted, I would want someone to save my life! Americans have hit a new moral low, now murdering their own babies? It is wickedness. Abortionists have the same sick philosophy as Adolf Hitler, i.e., that certain classes of people have a right to life, and others don't. Abortionists don't believe that the unborn fetus has a right to life. They effectively believe that the living are superior to the fetus in the womb. A society that will murder it's unborn is capable of any evil imaginable. Any evil imaginable!

The Scriptures teach, “Be ye angry, and sin not.” There is a fine line between faith and foolishness. We should be angered about abortion, day and night. However, we must be careful to channel that anger through constructive channels which will prevent further abortions, not put us in prison. The best way to fight abortion is by word-of-mouth and public education. We can all SPEAK OUT against abortion in an appropriate manner as civilized people. And we must speak out..."Who will rise up for me against the evildoers? or who will stand up for me against the workers of iniquity?" —Psalm 94:16

Anti-abortion signs are working great nationwide. Thousands of babies have been spared the tortuous death of abortion. God bless the efforts of the folks at Repent America and Operation Rescue. We can do many good things to fight the New World Order, feminism, abortion, homosexuality, etc cetera; but we must not become hateful of the sinner. The best way to stop abortion is to hold up the graphic posters of aborted pieces of children for expectant mothers to view, and to educate them about available Christian adoption services. The wicked politicians and judges in America, who have permitted the murder of tens-of-millions of babies, will give account to God, just as wicked King Herod had to give account for murdering thousands of children in an attempt to kill Jesus. Most of all, the American public is to blame, for tolerating such wickedness and remaining silent concerning evil.

Admittedly, there are many religious “nuts” in the world. As true believers, the Bible should create in us a “sound mind” (which is spoken of in the book of Second Timothy)…“For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a SOUND MIND.” —2nd Timothy 1:7

"Sound" meaning "clear in thought." We are to be level-headed while the world is going insane. The world has become a large insane asylum. If crazy people want to murder their children, we must NOT join the craziness. No "sound" individual would take the life of their own child. I have only used the issue of abortion as an example of how believers are supposed to behave themselves. We are to HATE sin; but not the sinner. Unfortunately, it's getting to the place where Christians won't even be able to speak out anymore against sin if the heathen get their way. We are living in a rotten society. I foresee the day when churches will lose their tax-exemption for speaking out against homosexuality, and be prosecuted for not hiring them. The Bible says the day is coming when the wicked will kill believers, thinking they are doing God a favor...

"They shall put you out of the synagogues: yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service."
—John 16:2

We read that evil men and seducers will become worse and worse..."But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ; How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts. These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit." —Jude 1:17-19

"But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived." —2nd Timothy 2:13

God’s people are to be peace-loving people…“If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men.” —Romans 12:18

God’s people are to be peaceful people…“Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord.” —Hebrews 12:14

Dr. John R. Rice wrote a book entitled, “I Am A Fundamentalist!” In that book, there is a chapter called, “I Am a Fundamentalist, Not a Nut.” There’s plenty of nuts in the world; God’s children should NOT be in that group. Hating evil is a Biblical command (Psalm 97:10). Taking a stand against evildoers is Biblical (Psalm 94:16). I speak the truth in love as Ephesians 4:15 tells us to. Teaching the inspired Word of God is certainly not hatred. Abortion is murder and someone needs to speak out on behalf of those human beings in the womb. Genuine love speaks the truth.

So friend... having said all the above, I want to say once more... This is NOT a hate site, it is a LOVE site. May God bless you friend and always remember, GOD LOVES PEOPLE!!!

Jedi_Templar #fundie blizzforums.com

I was thinking about evolution and the many scientific laws it violates, and I realized the biggest law it violates- Murphy's Law. Murphy's Law is that 'if anything can go wrong, it will.' You would have to agree with me that Murphy's Law is a fundemental aspect of everyday life- the bread pops out of the toaster, and falls on the floor. The light turns red as you pull up to the intersection. The plane is delayed due to bad weather. The computer is contaiminated with a virus because you were downloading a bunch of sh*t of a Kazaa. Murphy's Law is the law of chaos, of disorder. Everything goes downhill. However, evolution has to go against this disorder in the universe. That's the point- something from nothing, life form nonlife, order from chaos.

Itchy fish #fundie itchyfish.com


A letter from hell is a made up video dramatization about two friends, Zach and Josh. They were best buddies who did everything together. They played sports, did homework together, and they were close like brothers. Zach was a Christian which means a follower of Christ. Not once did he ever talk to Josh about Jesus and sadly, he had plenty of opportunities.

Tragically one night, Josh drank a few beers, died in a car crash, and went to hell. In the video, Josh is telling Zach about his terrifying experience as soon as he died, and is wondering why he never told him about Jesus. Josh said that he tried to bring up the subject many times about Zack being a Christian. For some reason, Zach did not want to talk about it and always changed the topic to something else.



In his letter to Zach, Josh is telling him his experience step by step. He is seeing angels and the angels are looking in the Lamb’s Book of Life to see if his name is written in there. They told him that only the names that were written in the book were able to enter heaven. When they tell him that his name is not there, they start leading him towards hell which is a place of eternal torment for those who rejected Christ. You can hear the terror in Josh’s voice. He is beyond frightened. He is telling him how he can feel, talk and see, but he is in a horrible place. Again, he is asking Zach why he never told him how to be a Christian. Josh goes on to say that he is getting closer to the flames and he can smell the brimstone and sulfur. Finally, he is thrown into the fire. The video ends by Zach responding to Josh’s letter and saying that he had no time to tell him about Jesus and that he could not be bothered.

Although this dramatization is fiction, it is really reality. How many people have come and gone in our lifetime without us telling them about Jesus? In the Bible in Mark 16:15, it says to “Go into the world and preach the Gospel to every creature.” We as Christians are commanded to do so. We are to tell others that Jesus died on the cross for our sins so we can have eternal life. In Zach’s case, if Josh was his best friend, why would he want his best friend to go to such a horrible place? Zach knew very well that this place exists.

I think we can all ask that question ourselves. Do we tell others about Jesus? Our job is to tell them. Then it is up to them if they want to accept or not, but we have a responsibility. When I get to heaven some day, I don’t want Jesus to say to me, “Why didn’t you tell others about me?” This video will really touch you because this is reality and happens all the time.

Hemant menta #fundie patheos.com

Science is at war with religion. The conflict can be traced back to the Dark Ages, a period in which the church vigorously asserted dogma and persecuted anyone who questioned its authority, including scientific pioneers such as Galileo, Copernicus, and Bruno. Fortunately the Enlightenment came along in the eighteenth century and validated methods of acquiring knowledge through evidence and testing. These methods freed scientists to pursue truth without fear of recrimination from the church. Thus the scientific revolution was born. Yet the war between religion and science continues to this day.

If you believe this rendition of history, there’s a good chance you’ve been reading a public school textbook or the New Atheists. The idea that science and religion are at odds is a popular myth in our culture, perpetuated by news headlines like “God vs. Science” in Time magazine. Of the perceived conflict, Christopher Hitchens writes, “All attempts to reconcile faith with science and reason are consigned to failure and ridicule.” Richard Dawkins writes, “I am hostile to fundamentalist religion because it actively debauches the scientific enterprise… It subverts science and saps the intellect.”

Although it is widely believed that science and Christianity are at odds, the opposite is actually true. There is no inherent conflict between Christianity and science. We don’t mean to suggest that religious antagonism to science has never existed. It has and does. But the history of science shows that such claims of antagonism are often exaggerated or unsubstantiated. “Once upon a time, back in the second half of the nineteenth century,” says Alister McGrath, “it was certainly possible to believe that science and religion were permanently at war… This is now seen as a hopelessly outmoded historical stereotype that scholarship has totally discredited.”

The scientific enterprise as a sustained and organized movement emerged in Christian Europe. During the sixteenth century, people from every culture studied the natural world, and yet modern science emerged in Europe, a civilization primarily shaped by the Judeo-Christian world- view. Why? Because Christianity provided the philosophical foundation as well as the spiritual and practical motivation for doing science. The Christian worldview — with its insistence on the orderliness of the universe, its emphasis on human reason, and its teaching that God is glorified as we seek to understand his creation — laid the foundation for the modern scientific revolution.


God’s Universe


Most scientific pioneers were theists, including prominent figures such as Nicolaus Copernicus (1473–1543), Robert Boyle (1627–1691), Isaac Newton (1642–1727), Blaise Pascal (1623–1662), Johannes Kepler (1571–1630), Louis Pasteur (1822–1895), Francis Bacon (1561–1626), and Max Planck (1858–1947). Many of these pioneers intently pursued science because of their belief in the Christian God. Bacon believed the natural world was full of mysteries God meant for us to explore. Kepler wrote, “The chief aim of all investigations of the external world should be to discover the rational order which has been imposed on it by God, and which he revealed to us in the language of mathematics.” Newton believed his scientific discoveries offered convincing evidence for the existence and creativity of God. His favorite argument for design related to the solar system: “This most beautiful system of sun, planets, and comets could only proceed from the counsel and dominion of an intelligent and powerful being.”


Christopher Hitchens discounts the religious convictions of these scientific pioneers, claiming that belief in God was the only option for a scientist of the time. But this puts Hitchens in a curious dilemma. If religious believers get no credit for their positive contributions to society (e.g., shaping modern science) because “everyone was religious,” then why should their mistakes, like atrocities committed in the name of God, discredit them? This is a double standard. One cannot deny religious believers credit on the basis of “everyone was religious” and also assign blame on the same foundation. To make the case that “religion poisons everything,” Hitchens has to ignore evidence to the contrary. And he is more than willing to do so.


Dawkins accepts that some early scientific pioneers may have been Christians, but he believes Christian scientists are now a rarity: “Great scientists who profess religion become harder to find through the twentieth century.” However, in the same year that Dawkins published The God Delusion (2006), three leading scientists released books favorable to theism. Harvard astronomer Owen Gingerich released God’s Universe, arguing that an individual can be both a scientist and a believer in intelligent design. Internationally renowned physicist Paul Davies published Goldilocks Enigma, in which he argued that intelligent life is the reason our universe exists. Francis Collins, former head of the Human Genome Project, published The Language of God, in which he presents scientific and philosophical evidence for God. Incidentally, President Barack Obama appointed Francis Collins as the director of the National Institutes for Health, one of the world’s foremost medical research centers.


Naming scientists whose Christian worldview motivated their work doesn’t settle the issue of how science and religion relate. Entire books have been written on how science and religion intersect. But we do hope you see that many early scientific pioneers, as well as cutting-edge scientists today, derived their motivation for scientific research from the belief that God created the world for us to investigate and enjoy. These scientists did not view Christianity as incompatible with science.

mike the wiz #fundie evolutionfairytale.com

NNJamerson, in another thread you have ALLUDED that I am an ignoramus and you are the informed one saying, it "appears you don't even know what an insect is". The word "insect" in fact can and is used for a spider, as a colloquialism, by most people.

. If it is true that I/we as creationists, am worthy of derision, then since I myself invented these following questions that pertain to evolution theory, it would be quite silly for you to then believe that if I know all of the answers but you don't, that I am the uninformed ignoramus. And so I made the thread for evolutionists so I can link them to it when they play those cards.

(Reductio Ad Absurdum = if I was an ignoramus I WOULD know the answers)

Absurd, I would obviously not know them nor be able to invent the questions therefore I am not an ignoramus. (modus tollens)

Similarly we can also say that if you are superior to me in knowledge, you would certainly know the answers since I do know them.

1. Could the evolutionist now explain to me why the more heterozygous alleles in one gene-pool would be better in regard to sickled blood cells, as opposed to the more homozygous allele frequencies in another gene pool, in relation to a certain disease?

2. Could the evolutionist explain the difference between the cursorial theory and the arboreal theory in regards to the different way to achieve morphological flaps/rudimentary wings, for gliding. Clue: Crocodilomorphs. Please explain the two conjectural ways to achieve flight.

3. Could the evolutionist explain to me the difference between a retrogressive feature and a homoplastic feature?

5. Could the evolutionist explain to me what a monophyletic group is as opposed to a polyphyletic one?

6. Could the evolutionist give me another name for differential reproduction.

8. Could the evolutionist explain the difference between homological structures and morphological function in them, by giving an example.

9. Could the evolutionist please explain what the term is for a change in the use of features for a function such as protofeathers initially being used for insulation but then used for flight. --------.

10. Could the evolutionist tell me the term used for the reintroduction of information into a gene pool? ---- ----.

11. Could the evolutionist tell me the difference between an acquired characteristic, and a shared, derived characteristic by explaining in full, the difference.

?12. The seahorse is the only real v------- fish.

13. What is the term that can be used in place of this term; "stasis" = n--------- ---------.

14. What homoplasy do oil birds and whales share?

15. Apes are, a------, as they dwell in trees. Humans are -------, because we sleep at night.

16. The law of ------------- means that the tertiary cannot outdate the cambrian, according to the long-age paradigm.

17. A fossil is starting to p------------ if it is starting to lose it's actual boney remains.

18. What is another name for conjectural excuses that are invoked posteriori in order to explain why facts don't fit with a theory; A ----- ----------.

19. Karl Popper shown that a good way to predict what a theory would evidence is by using the form of a ----- -o--- by placing confirmation evidence in the place of the c---------.

20. What is the type of reasoning for confirmation evidence in the form of a tally or statistics, ---------.

LOGIC QUESTIONS NOW:

1. The opposite of a contradiction by definition is a ---------.

2. What is the name of this fallacy; "you are either with me or against me".

3. What is the name of this logical error that depends on coincidence; "X before Y therefore X caused Y" --- --- ---------

4. What is the latin name for this fallacy; "Professor X said it is true therefore it must be, and here is all of the work he has done on the subject...."

5. Give an example of a a false No-true scotsman fallacy, that has not actually been committed.

(I think I will just keep this thread to show to evolutionists that enjoy making it seem like creationists are totally ignorant.)

Hindu Nationalists #fundie sciencemag.org

Hindu nationalists claim that ancient Indians had airplanes, stem cell technology, and the internet
By Sanjay KumarFeb. 13, 2019 , 10:55 AM

New Delhi—The most widely discussed talk at the Indian Science Congress, a government-funded annual jamboree held in Jalandhar in January, wasn't about space exploration or information technology, areas in which India has made rapid progress. Instead, the talk celebrated a story in the Hindu epic Mahabharata about a woman who gave birth to 100 children, citing it as evidence that India's ancient Hindu civilization had developed advanced reproductive technologies. Just as surprising as the claim was the distinguished pedigree of the scientist who made it: chemist G. Nageshwar Rao, vice-chancellor of Andhra University in Visakhapatnam. "Stem cell research was done in this country thousands of years ago," Rao said.

His talk was widely met with ridicule. But Rao is hardly the only Indian scientist to make such claims. In recent years, "experts" have said ancient Indians had spacecraft, the internet, and nuclear weapons—long before Western science came on the scene.

Such claims and other forms of pseudoscience rooted in Hindu nationalism have been on the rise since Prime Minister Narendra Modi came to power in 2014. They're not just an embarrassment, some researchers say, but a threat to science and education that stifles critical thinking and could hamper India's development. "Modi has initiated what may be called ‘Project Assault on Scientific Rationality,’" says Gauhar Raza, former chief scientist at the Council of Scientific and Industrial Research (CSIR) here, a conglomerate of almost 40 national labs. "A religio-mythical culture is being propagated in the country's scientific institutions aggressively."

Some blame the rapid rise at least in part on Vijnana Bharati (VIBHA), the science wing of Rashtriya Swayamsewak Sangh (RSS), a massive conservative movement that aims to turn India into a Hindu nation and is the ideological parent of Modi's Bharatiya Janata Party. VIBHA aims to educate the masses about science and technology and harness research to stimulate India's development, but it also promotes "Swadeshi" (indigenous) science and tries to connect modern science to traditional knowledge and Hindu spirituality.

VIBHA receives generous government funding and is active in 23 of India's 29 states, organizing huge science fairs and other events; it has 20,000 so-called "team members" to spread its ideas and 100,000 volunteers—including many in the highest echelons of Indian science.

VIBHA's advisory board includes Vijay Kumar Saraswat, former head of Indian defense research and now chancellor of Jawaharlal Nehru University here. The former chairs of India's Space Commission and its Atomic Energy Commission are VIBHA "patrons." Structural biologist Shekhar Mande, director-general of CSIR, is VIBHA's vice president.

Saraswat—who says he firmly believes in the power of gemstones to influence wellbeing and destiny—is proud of the achievements of ancient Hindu science: "We should rediscover Indian systems which existed thousands of years back," he says. Mande shares that pride. "We are a race which is not inferior to any other race in the world," he says. "Great things have happened in this part of the world." Mande insists that VIBHA is not antiscientific, however: "We want to tell people you have to be rational in your life and not believe in irrational myths." He does not see a rise of pseudoscience in the past 4 years—"We have always had that"—and says part of the problem is that the press is now paying more attention to the occasional bizarre claim. "If journalists don't report it, actually that would be perfect," he says.

But others say there is little doubt that pseudoscience is on the rise—even at the highest levels of government. Modi, who was an RSS pracharak, or propagandist, for 12 years, claimed in 2014 that the transplantation of the elephant head of the god Ganesha to a human—a tale told in ancient epics—was a great achievement of Indian surgery millennia ago, and has made claims about stem cells similar to Rao's. At last year's Indian Science Congress, science minister Harsh Vardhan, a medical doctor and RSS member, said, incorrectly, that physicist Stephen Hawking had stated that the Vedas include theories superior to Albert Einstein's equation E=mc2. "It's one thing for a crackpot to say something like that, but it's a very bad example for people in authority to do so. It is deplorable," Venki Ramakrishnan, the Indian-born president of the Royal Society in London and a 2009 Nobel laureate in chemistry, tells Science. (Vardhan has declined to explain his statement so far and did not respond to an interview request from Science.)

Critics say pseudoscience is creeping into science funding and education. In 2017, Vardhan decided to fund research at the prestigious Indian Institute of Technology here to validate claims that panchagavya, a concoction that includes cow urine and dung, is a remedy for a wide array of ailments—a notion many scientists dismiss. And in January 2018, higher education minister Satya Pal Singh dismissed Charles Darwin's evolution theory and threatened to remove it from school and college curricula. "Nobody, including our ancestors, in written or oral [texts], has said that they ever saw an ape turning into a human being," Singh said.

Those remarks triggered a storm of protest; in a rare display of unity, India's three premier science academies said removing evolution from school curricula, or diluting it with "non-scientific explanations or myths," would be "a retrograde step." In other instances, too, scientists are pushing back against the growing tide of pseudoscience. But doing so can be dangerous. In the past 5 years, four prominent fighters against superstition and pseudoscientific ideas and practices have been murdered, including Narendra Dabholkar, a physician, and M. M. Kalburgi, former vice-chancellor of Kannada University in Hampi. Ongoing police investigations have linked their killers to Hindu fundamentalist organizations.

Some Indian scientists may be susceptible to nonscientific beliefs because they view science as a 9-to-5 job, says Ashok Sahni, a renowned paleontologist and emeritus professor at Panjab University in Chandigarh. "Their religious beliefs don't dovetail with science," he says, and outside working hours those beliefs may hold sway. A tradition of deference to teachers and older persons may also play a role, he adds. "Freedom to question authority, to question writings, that's [an] intrinsic part of science," Ramakrishnan adds. Rather than focusing on the past, India should focus on its scientific future, he says—and drastically hike its research funding.

The grip of Hindu nationalism on Indian society is about to be tested. Two dozen opposition parties have joined forces against Modi for elections that will be held before the end of May. A loss by Modi would bring "some change," says Prabir Purkayastha, vice president of the All India People's Science Network in Madurai, a liberal science advocacy movement with some 400,000 members across the country that opposes VIBHA's ideology. But the tide of pseudoscience may not retreat quickly, he says. "I don't think this battle is going to die down soon, because institutions have been weakened and infected."

Brother Of Yeshua #fundie brotherofyeshua.blogspot.co.uk

When the question is asked: What Would Jesus Do? One of the primary answers should be that Jesus would neither lie about God, and neither would he put lying words in the mouth of God. Why? When you embrace or promote lying words which you attribute to God, then you make yourself an apostate to the Truth and TheWay. Yet today modern Christians not only promote lying words which they decisively attribute to the words spoken by God -- a sin that alienates them from the Truth and TheWay that the historical man Jesus taught -- but many of them accept the lies of Islam and the Muslim lies of abomination.

In the article An Inconvenient Truth which is written by an author of the original Gospels, it is demonstrated that all the religions of man have been corrupted -- that Christianity came into being because of the corruptions of Judaism -- that Islam came into being because of the corruptions of Christianity -- and that while mankind possesses the innate ability to Know and Embody the Truth of all Truths, he perpetually embraces and adheres to the lying dogma of men. Therefore the question is posed: What Would Jesus do? Or Say? And on the issue of embracing Muslims, the question must be asked: Has Donald Trump represented the answers to these important questions?

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The sin that has caused the Christian world to be cast into a spiritual diaspora of abject ignorance, as well as the lies of abomination found in the Qur'an which has been embraced and promoted by many who portray themselves as Muslims, is with a little effort on the part of the believers easily proven to be false. In witness to the Truth of all Truths set forth by the author of An Inconvenient Truth, all of mankind has the innate ability to enter the Presence of God, and confirm the Ultimate Truth of all Truths.

But to accomplish this, the seeker must totally Turn to the Light and seek the Truth and the Kingdom. Which means that they must reject the lies of their religious leaders and authorities. Which means that those who are portrayed as radical Muslims must repent of their evil ways of rape, torture and murder -- while those portrayed as "moderate Muslims" must stand in opposition to both the radical Muslims, as well as the lies of abomination inserted into the Qur'an by past religious leaders and authorities.

Which means that it isn't enough for those portrayed as "moderate Muslims" not to slay the unbelievers as commanded in the Qur'an -- because as Muslims, they must denounce and vehemently oppose those who embrace and promote the lies of Islam which have been inserted into the Qur'an by counterfeit religious leaders in the past. The silence of the "moderate Muslims" envelops all of Islam in a cloud or Spiritual Ignorance and Separation from the very God they call upon and worship.

The ONLY solution to what is portrayed as Radical Islam, is a Spiritual Solution. And this Spiritual Solution is Universal to all of mankind. It is True from a religious perspective -- it is True from a philosophical perspective -- it is True from a secular perspective -- from an academia-educational perspective -- and, what can rightly be portrayed, a human perspective. And it will remain impossible to resolve the conflict and human suffering, until this Universal Spiritual Solution is Resolved.

The suffering imposed upon innocent people by what has been portrayed as radical Islam, cannot be resolved through ideology, philosophy, diplomacy, military conflict or the empowerment of what has been termed "moderate Muslims". Why? So long as Islam maintains that the Qur'an is the verbatim word of Allah dictated through Mohammad directly to mankind -- and that as stated in the Qur'an, Allah requires all True Muslims to perpetuate violence upon unbelievers and infidel -- then those who fail to fulfill the commandments of Allah in the Qur'an, must be seen as the unbelievers and infidel who fail to fulfill the required commandments and will of Allah. And from this Quaranic perspective, what is often portrayed as moderate Muslims, are merely part of the body of infidels who oppose the will of Allah. Why would those portrayed as moderate Muslims be seen as spiritual infidels?

Because it is the objective of the original teachings of Islam to seek and know the Truth of all Truths -- and to remain silent when others who portray themselves as Muslims are murdering innocent people in the name of Allah, is apostasy against the God they claim to worship. And the fact that it is within the innate ability for all of mankind to acquire and prove the Truth of all Truths as set forth and witnessed to in An Inconvenient Truth, then all of mankind are responsible for seeking that Truth -- i.e., "If I had not come and spoken to them, they would not have been guilty of sin, but now they have no excuse for their sin" (John 15:22). With this declaration of Truth, all are responsible.

As the divine offspring of Creator-God who was formed in His Image, mankind has the potential to Know the Truth of all Truths -- receiving this Great Body of Truth Directly from the Source of all Truth. Therefore, the only obstacle that inhibits mankind from the knowledge of the Truth, is the limits he imposes upon himself. Man possesses the undeveloped resources of mind to know all truths -- and he is not in need of other men to teach him. And from the perspective of the core teachings of both Christianity and Islam, it is a sin to seek out any teacher other than the True Prophet. And with respect to man's search for Truth, one of the greatest obstacles to acquiring the Truth of all Truths, is the baggage of man-made dogma instituted by pseudo-teachers that inhibits man in his journey, and obstructs the path of the prodigal son's return to the Kingdom from which he originally emerged.

The Rule of Divine Law is this: In order to Possess the Truth, you must yourself be Possessed by the Truth, and the Truth alone. Therefore, anyone willing to permit themselves to surrender to the Light and become an expression of Higher Truth, will Know the Truth of all Truths that breaks the shackles of spiritual bondage, and sets them free to enter the Edenic Kingdom of Origination. From a Jewish perspective, this Return to Eden can be portrayed as the Promised Land/Spiritual Jerusalem -- from a Christian perspective, the Kingdom -- and from a Muslim perspective, the journey to the Distant Mosque in Spiritual Mecca.

Throughout the history of mankind, what can be called religion has always been the tool of charlatan priests/clergy and despotic rulers to exert and maintain control over the thinking and lives of the masses of people. By provoking fear in the people and the threat of death and eternal damnation in hell, the priests/clergy and despotic rulers were able to maintain almost absolute control over the people. This was true when the scriptures were originally written. Just as it remains true even today.

From a Christian perspective, it is easily demonstrated that the scriptures contained in the Bible were corrupted. Why were the scriptures corrupted? In order to make them support the carnal and political agenda of the ruling classes. This fact was true of Judaism, it was true of Christianity, and in like manner it is also true of Islam. And while on the surface these three religions may appear different, at their core they are not only one and the same, but they have been imbued with the same spiritual purpose and objective. And if a Jew, a Christian, or a Muslim can remove the man-made dogma within which their respective religions are immersed, each can equally find the Truth of all Truths that will set them free and permit them to enter into Life.

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The Source of Islamic beliefs across the spectrum of all sects and groups who portray themselves as Muslim, is the Qur'an -- and if the Qur'an has been so corrupted that some Muslims are compelled to inflict suffering, harm and even death upon others in accord with what they believe is the words and commandments of God, then the Qur'an itself is a lying abomination to the Truth. And unless those who are portrayed as "moderate Muslims" actively oppose the killing in the Name of God, then they are as guilty as those who interpret and promote the Qur'an in this manner.

Further, when Christians embrace Muslims without actively objecting to the lies of abomination that were written into the Qur'an my men as originating with God, then these Christians are as guilty for the blood of slain innocents as all Muslims are. Jesus would never have embraced a people who promoted lies attributed to God that commands believers to "Slay them [unbelievers] wherever you find them.." Not only would Jesus vehemently oppose such an abomination, but he would have opposed and condemned those who called themselves his followers, who did not themselves vehemently denounce such lying statements being attributed to the words of God.

There are sufficient biblical texts and pre-Nicene Church writings to easily prove that the Gospels were corrupted in the fourth century in order to promote Roman Paganism. Which means that any sincere seeker of Truth can prove the truth and the fact that the Emperor Constantine who was not even a Christian, ordered the words spoken by God to mankind to be altered from their original context, and can work around the corruptions of the Gospel text by the counterfeit authorities of the Church. Which means that so long as these Christians denounce the corruptions, that they can continue to use the Gospels as the intended Key of Knowledge that unlocks the "narrow gate" within them to provide entrance into the Inner Kingdom. Thus, the question: Do the more ancient uncorrupted copies of the Qur'an exist?

And this is important because it is not enough to ignore the lies written into the text of the Qur'an -- because the lies themselves are an abomination against God. The proof of this is seen in the fact that the children of so called "moderate Muslims" have embraced the lies in the Qur'an, and have embraced jihad against the innocent victims of Islam -- enslaving women, blowing up innocent people, and cutting the heads off those who reject the abominable words that past Muslim religious authorities placed in the mouth of God.

If those portrayed as "moderate Muslims" wish to continue to use the Qur'an as the word of God, then they must vehemently denounce the corruptions of past Muslim religious leaders. Moreover, these "moderate Muslims" must be the leading voice of opposition against the Islamic abomination that has been carried out in the name of their God. If they fail to do this, then they are acting in concert, and make themselves part of the abomination and grave sin against God. In the same way, when Christians extend to Muslims an open hand of welcome -- wherein, Jesus would never have remained silent to the sin of man promoting the abominations inserted into the Qur'an as being the spoken words of God -- then these Christians make themselves an integral part of the abdominal sin against God. And the fact that each and every Christian and Muslim has the innate ability to prove the Truth of all Truths by sincerely embracing their own religious teachings -- using their scriptures as the intended Key of Knowledge -- then the abomination of Christian and Muslim alike is unforgivable.

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While the American Constitution promotes and even ensures freedom of choice, it does not in any measure protect any American from the consequences of their choices. In much the same way, where the Gospels promote toleration and brotherhood, Jesus would never have embraced religious teachings that promote lies set forth as being the words spoken by God.

SavedByGraceThruFaith #fundie atheistforums.org

Some Simple Questions show Atheistic Origin Science is false (proof 2 begins)

Atheistic origin science has a lot of explaining to do to counter the very obvious and scientific conclusion that God, the Almighty Creator, indeed created all things. A thorough investigation into the facts, the laws of nature, mathematics, and logic will prove that this alternative explanation, of an origin without God, is totally false and contradictory.

Therefore, a second irrefutable proof of the existence of God Almighty the Creator can be made. Assume indeed that atheistic origin science is correct, and all of the creation can be explained without God by the laws of nature and random chance. As will be shown, this assumed theory will prove to be false. And since the only alternative to a Creator is false, then again the fact that the Creator, God Almighty, exists will have been proven again.

Atheistic origin science claims that it can explain the origin of things without God. The claim is that most things have been explained and only the details need to be ironed out. The truth is that atheistic origin science has not been able to answer anything of importance in the origin question. If anything, new discoveries have ended all hope that it will ever be successful. So after over 150 years since Darwin, and over 50 years of an extensive effort, atheistic origin science has not answered anything. Why does anybody believe it ever will? Most of its believers have either died or will die before anything will ever be answered.

To show that atheistic origin science has failed, I will just ask for some simple answers to some very simple questions. If atheistic origin science has answers, this should be no more than to copy the answers from the verified answer book of atheistic origin science.

If there are no real answers, it proves my point.

If the answers given are not complete answers, avoids questions, dances around questions, or doesn't answer one single question, what does that say about the claims of atheistic origin science.

Please note I have some more simple questions to ask.

Questions

What was the first living thing?

Was it made of just proteins?
If so, how many amino acids did it have and what was their sequence?
What are the odds of that happening?
Please show real calculations.
How did it then make the jump to RNA and DNA?
What are the odds of that happening?
Please show real calculations.

Was it made of just RNA and proteins?
If so, how many nucleotides for the RNA and amino acids for the proteins?
What were the sequences for both?
What are the odds of that happening?
How did it then make the jump to DNA?
What are the odds of that happening?
Please show real calculations.

Did it actually use DNA?
If so, how many nucleotides for the DNA?
What was the DNA code sequence?
What are the odds of that happening?
Please show real calculations.

What was the 2nd living creature?
The 3rd, 4th ... up the actual first cell?
What are the odds of each of those jumps?
Please show real calculations.

Upward evolution

Could man have evolved from an apelike creature in just 5 million years?
What are the odds based on the fact that there would be about 30 million base code differences in a 3 billion base code DNA between the 2 creatures, only 500,000 generations in that time, and only at most several million individuals for each of most of those generations?
What are the odds?
Please show real calculations.
How did that happen since higher-level creatures use sexual reproduction?
Please show real calculations.

Now repeat that feat for the over 100 million species that have been supposedly on the Earth. What are the odds of that?
Please show real calculations.

Given the fact that mutations in general corrupt the DNA code, why is the DNA code of all species not completely corrupted after the long line of progression over hundreds of millions of years?

The fossil record

Why does the fossil record show distinct species fully formed throughout?

Why has not a single chain of missing links of one disparate species becoming another ever been found in the entire fossil record?
There are millions of chains of missing links still missing. None have been found.

Provide one set of dates for one supposed intermediate species. Give the dates of the ancestor, the intermediate and the descendent species for one intermediate species.

Camilla Smith #fundie raptureready.com

I am writing this letter to a precious and lost generation that is being pursued in a massive and malicious manner. I pray that God impresses this letter upon your hearts. There may not be much time.

Dear Sweet Young Person,

Your life is hanging in the balance. There is a battle being waged for your very soul. Hollywood has set its sights on you. The entertainment industry is doing everything it can to claim your soul for the devil…that’s right, Satan. Yes, there is a Satan, and you know it. And there is a God—you know that too.

There is only One God and His Name is Yahweh. And the time is at hand for the God of All creation to defeat the god of this world, Satan. That time is nearly here. I feel you know that, too. You can feel the forces of evil around you. You see it in every movie you watch, every TV show you tune in to, every music video that you see, and every video game that you play.

Evil—pure evil, abounds. Darkness and deception are all around us. Even the shades and nuances and colors portrayed by the entertainment industry are evil…have you noticed? Everything is black, red, gray. Skulls and flames are everywhere. Pagan symbolism, satanic rituals, witchcraft ceremonies and atheism are becoming trendy. This is no joke. It is a carefully orchestrated manipulation, brought on by the father of lies (the devil), to change your perception of what is good and evil.

Satan IS the author of confusion. Do you feel hopeless, depressed, anxious and panicked? Do you feel as if there is no sense in trying to live a normal life, get a job, go to school, or make a difference in somebody’s life? Do you feel like darkness is oppressing you and you cannot climb out of the pit? That darkness has a name: Satan or Lucifer.

The Bible calls him the dragon and the serpent of old (notice all the dragons and monsters in children’s cartoons, commercials and nearly every sci-fi movie that is released). This is not a coincidence. Satan is running the show right now. But not for much longer. Satan is working on your mind like a termite works on soft wood. He is occupying your thoughts and changing your processing skills. He is controlling the air waves, and thus, controlling your moods, your mannerisms, your attitude and eventually—your soul.

Better yet, if he can get you to weaken your resolve by using drugs or alcohol, pain pills or benzodiazepines, you won’t be able to resist his power (and he is very powerful) and you will fall into his hands. He wants you to be angry and resentful. He wants you to not function in society. He wants you to be in deep depression and doubt. He wants you to hate. He thrives on it.

Satan has an ultimate plan. He wants to take you to hell with him for eternity. There is a heaven, and yes, there is a hell…I believe you know that too. In fact, God even tells us in His Word that we all know this truth inside our hearts, and by the very witnessing of God’s creation, we KNOW that God exists, and we are without excuse.

The world will tell you that there was no “creation.” Clearly, the Bible tells us that God created the heavens and the earth. The theory of evolution is another lie concocted by Satan to deceive you into believing that God is a liar. He is not. God is truth. God is always Truth. Constant, unchanging Truth.

Satan will use his masterful deceit to convince you that living a sinful life is okay. He will tell you that you can feel better if you just take that pill. He will tell you that those movies and those vulgar shows don’t change your outlook or your behavior. He will say that using that swear words is all right. He will tell you that the “fantasy” world of gods and superhuman beings that he is promoting is just for fun.

They are all lies. Satanic lies.

Run from him as fast as you can while you still have the chance. Satan has an agenda. Hollywood has an agenda. The entertainment industry has an agenda. Theme parks have an agenda. They want to seep into your hearts and minds and promote Satan’s corrupt ideals and morals while you are still impressionable. It is a vicious spiritual attack on you and you must fight back.

There is hardly a TV show or a movie today that doesn’t promote immorality: Cohabitation out of wedlock, having babies out of wedlock, aborting babies while in the womb, having sexual contact with same-sex partners or multiple partners, tattooing, piercing, cutting, carousing with the demons and the supernatural. Satan controls the media, and through the media, he controls the culture. Through the culture, he controls your young life.

Here are two Bible verses stand out in my mind, and that tell us plainly what is going on. Frankly, they make me furious, but they are true. Maybe they will help you understand Satan’s goal.
“Be alert and sober. Your enemy, the devil, goes around like a roaring lion, seeking whom he can devour” (1 Peter 5:8).

And then there is this verse:

“For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places” (Ephesians 6:12).

Teenagers, pre-teens, college students…God has SO much He wants for your life. He loves you SO much. He wants you to know His love and give Him your love in return. He wants to change your life and give you the everlasting peace that comes with walking with Him. And the magnificent thing is this: All you have to do is ask God to walk with you!

God has already sent His Son, Jesus, to pay for your sins. Repenting of your sinful behavior and believing in His gift of love and sacrifice for you is your first step to eternal life, peace and joy…and avoiding eternal separation from the love of God. The rest is a beautiful journey with The Almighty that will bring you peace like you’ve never known, but always desired.

We have little time left. The Bible tells us that Jesus will one day return for His believers and call them home. At this point, God Himself, will pour out terrible wrath on the world for choosing to ignore the free gift that He gave us, His only begotten Son. It is only a matter of time, and no one knows exactly how much more time the Lord will give us to choose Him. The Bible tells us this:

“The Lord is not slow about His promise, as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing that any should perish, but for all to come to repentance” (2 Peter 3:9).

Please, please, young person. I am prayerfully imploring you. Listen to God calling your name. If you find that your life is spiraling out of control and you have no hope, you have no idea where to turn…open a Bible. Or go online and read it. There, you will find Truth—the Truth you have been missing and the peace you have been longing for. That peace is Jesus Christ—the Prince of peace. The Messiah. Lord and Savior of all.

“And there is salvation in no one else; for there is no other name under Heaven that has been given among men by which we must be saved” (Acts 4:12).

Jesus said it Himself, and it is this simple:
“I am The Way, The Truth and The Life. No man comes to the Father but through Me” (John 14:6).

How plain is that?

Society and this deluded culture will tell you that there are many, many ways to find God. Jesus Christ said no, there is only One way…through His loving, saving grace.
If you feel in your soul that things are slipping away…that the world is changing and we may actually be in the end times…you are correct.

The Bible tells us exactly what is currently happening and why.

Nothing is left to chance with God. He told us exactly what to look for and He has fulfilled prophecy exactly as foretold. The Bible told us Jesus would come the first time (very specifically detailed I might add) and He did. Jesus lived exactly as God’s Word said He would. Jesus was crucified exactly the way the Bible said He would. Most important, Jesus Christ was resurrected from the grave, exactly as the Bible said would happen.

The Bible also clearly tells us that Jesus Christ will call His believers to Him in a sudden removal from this earth. I believe we may be very near this “catching away.” This event will bring chaos to the earth and will lead to seven years of God’s pouring out His wrath upon those left behind—a time in which millions will die. Then Jesus will return to earth with His believers in His Glorious Second Coming, and He will defeat Satan and his demons. Jesus will then set up His Kingdom and reign over the earth.

This is why you must be ready.

You have to know Jesus and ask Him to be Lord of your life. He could call us at any minute. You have no guarantee that you will see tomorrow. If you love the Lord, you have no worries.

This letter is not meant to scare you. But maybe it will. It is the truth. Judgment is coming on the earth. God has warned us. There is NOTHING more serious than eternity. And God has made it simple, but He has left it up to us to chose Him or reject Him.

Make your decision to choose Christ, and make it quickly. The Day of the Lord will come just as the Bible says it will, and your eternity is at stake. Choose Jesus, and your eternity is set. Do it now, without delay and be ready to be filled with the joy that only comes from knowing that you will spend eternity with a loving God.

Young person, you can never find happiness living in this world without Jesus Christ. It just is not possible. Drugs, alcohol, and sexual immorality are fleeting types of escapes, but they actually drive you deeper into despair. If this is you, ask yourself this question…What will I do?

Listen for God’s Holy Spirit to give you that answer. He’s waiting. What will you do?

Softly and tenderly, Jesus is calling. Calling, “Oh, sinner, come home.” He loves you so. What will you do? I pray you make the right decision. I pray I meet you someday soon at the Lord’s table. I pray you feel the Holy Spirit tugging at your heart. And I pray you hear Him asking you…what will you do?

Charles Eisenstein #quack charleseisenstein.org

Because a miracle is (by this definition) impossible from where we stand today, we cannot force the universe to produce one. It is beyond our understanding of cause and effect. We can, however, give the experience of miracle to another person. To the extent we stand in a new story, we all have the power to be miracle-workers. Like Chris, we all have the power to perform acts that violate the old Story of the World.

A miracle is an invitation to a larger reality. Maybe I am more stubborn than most, but it typically takes repeated miracles for me to accept the invitation they hold. The perceptions of separation—for example, linear causality and rational self-interest—are embedded deep within my cells, for I am a product of that age.

At age twenty-one I arrived in Taiwan, uncomfortable in my own culture, in which I felt like an alien, but wedded still to many aspects of its defining stories. True, thanks to my somewhat leftist political upbringing I was cognizant of the bankruptcy of the mythology of progress and economic globalism, but I accepted without question the Scientific Method as the royal road to truth, and believed that science as an institution had arrived at a fairly complete general understanding of how the universe worked. I was, after all, a Yale graduate, trained in mathematics and analytic philosophy. It wasn’t long, though, before my story of the world came under assault. I had experiences with Chinese medicine and qigong that were impervious to my best efforts to explain away. I had a powerful LSD trip that melted what I’d called “reality” into an ocean of mind. I soaked up the Buddhist and Taoist thought that suffused the island, and heard countless stories of ghosts, Taoist shamans, and other weirdness from respectable people that I could dismiss only with a strenuous effort of interpretation. (Maybe they are trying to impress the foreigner. Maybe they are ignorant and superstitious, given to seeing what isn’t there.) I found myself increasingly uncomfortable with the cultural and personal arrogance I had to assume in order to preserve my worldview. To dismiss an entire culture’s perceptions of the world in favor of the dogma of objectivity and reductionism seemed akin to the very same economic and cultural imperialism that I was already aware of. Here was a kind of conceptual imperialism, to see an entire culture through a lens of anthropology or through a narrative of cognitive development that, in both cases, was heavily freighted with the power relations that rule our world.

At the same time, I encountered books that suggested that the Western worldview was crumbling from within. Of particular impact was the work of the Nobel laureate Ilya Prigogine and the physicist David Bohm, two of the twentieth century’s greatest scientists, who upended my understanding of causality and my assumption, which I’d never thought to question on scientific grounds, that the universe is devoid of an inherent order or intelligence. This liberated me from the trap of dualism: to see the phenomena I’d become aware of in Taiwan as the exercise of some separate, nonmaterial realm of spirit; to conclude that science has its domain, and spirituality another. But now I could see that materiality was much more than we had made of it; that potentially, it could include all the phenomena we associate with spirit, and that this could happen, not by reducing, dismissing, or explaining away the “spiritual,” but, on the contrary, only by expanding the material far, far beyond what any scientist was comfortable with.

We are afraid of anything that disrupts our Story of the World, anything that challenges the rules and boundaries of the real. We are afraid of miracles, yet we crave them as well. It is our greatest desire and our greatest fear. When the story we live in is young, the fear is stronger than the desire. A young story has a strong immune system. It can dispose of conflicting data points with ease. I see a dangji (a Taiwanese shaman) in a shaking trance, carrying a burning hot brazier in his bare hands—well, it must not really be as hot as it looks. A taxi driver tells me of the time he picked up an odd woman in a wedding dress and drove her to a street number that didn’t exist, and when he turned to ask her she had disappeared from the cab—well, he was probably drunk that night, or maybe he was trying to impress the gullible foreigner. I sprain my ankle so severely I cannot walk, and am taken to a one-room cement clinic, where the doctor, smoking a cigarette, digs his thumbs into the swollen, inflamed flesh for five minutes of torture, puts some paste on it, wraps it up, and sends me home, and the ankle is completely better the next day—well, it must not have really been that bad, it must not have actually been swollen to double its size like I thought, and in any case it would have gotten better anyway. I visit a qigong master, who taps me on a few spots on my body to “clear my meridians,” and I start pouring sweat within seconds and walk out half an hour later feeling like a million bucks—well, I was probably hot going in there, and didn’t notice that the room was extra hot, and as for the intense tingling I felt when he showed us what projecting qi was, I must have been imagining it. The hundreds of people studying with that man—they must be dupes, bamboozled by his slick talk into believing an impossibility, probably psychologically dependent on the bogus spiritual teachings he peddles. I don’t even need to know what those are or examine whether they are bogus or not—they must be, because otherwise my world falls apart. The same goes for all the claims and lifelong careers of hundreds of thousands of homeopaths, naturopaths, acupuncturists, chiropractors, energy healers, and all the others who practice modalities for which there is “no scientific evidence”—controlled, double-blind studies in peer-reviewed journals. If there were any merit to their ideas, surely the unbiased institutions of science would recognize it by now. Those practitioners have been deceiving themselves, selectively remembering only those cases where the patient got better—and some inevitably will get better even with no treatment at all. They are misguided, self-deceiving, poor observers of reality. Unlike me, and the people I agree with. We are the ones who base our beliefs on evidence and logic.

You can see how robust a Story of the World can be, and how comprehensive. Ultimately, our beliefs about what is and is not scientifically acceptable implicate our trust in existing social structures and authorities. The accusations of naiveté, of mental derangement, of being out of touch with reality, and the emotional energy behind those accusations, stem from a feeling of threat. The threat is real. What is being threatened is the fabric of the world as we have known it. Ultimately, the same fear is behind the mental calisthenics of environmental skeptics or central bankers or anyone else who ignores the increasingly obvious signs that our system is doomed, and that the beliefs we took for granted, the institutions that seemed so permanent, the truisms that seemed so reliable, and the habits of life that seemed so practical are serving us no longer.

Ares Ra #fundie #conspiracy #wingnut #psycho gurufalle.wordpress.com

(Apparently, new “legislation” from a group of the Austrian equivalents Sovereign Citizens. Translation mine.)

ANA - Act for the New Age
(for transition and for cleansing of the virus of Islam)

§1 Religion is prohibited. We connect ourselves with the spiritual guidance. Those who deny or ridicule this may be expelled from the community.

§ 2 Those who force their faith upon others against their will or terrorises for religious reasons will be punished with death.

§ 3 To build mosques, churches and nuclear power plants is prohibited. Everyone has the right for a roof over his head, free energy, free health food, and a vehicle and/or animal husbandry. Taxes and various dubious levies are prohibited.

§ 4 Headscarves for the purpose of religious veiling are strictly prohibited.

§ 5 Bathing at the lake with clothing is prohibited. It is to be skinny dipped, like a healthy human usually does in nature.

§ 6 Those who act violently or mendacious/deceitful, or behave like this, will be expelled from the community and/or may be punished with death, applying mostly to the terror of Islam or Jehovah’s Witnesses.

§ 7 Those who break these laws may be punished with death and/or be expelled from the community.

§ 8 Those who commit wars or murder “in Allahs namme”* will be excluded from the community and may be punished with death.

§ 9 Respect, love and truth are the highest priority, those who act against them will be excluded from the community and may even be punished with death. God has no religion, nor is his name Allah!

§ 10 Weddings are unnecessary, for we are all free humans, no one belongs to no one. Those who harass others because of love may be expelled from the community or punished with death.

§ 11 The death penalty is to be applied only as last instance only in the direst emergencies and to be executed by the community if a spiritual recovery is no longer possible in a spiritual-moral being (so-called human). Everyone gets the chance in this or at the latest the next incarnation to set everything right. Forgiveness is the first solution. If the first solution works and crimes are not repeated, enforcement of the final instance (death penalty) can be avoided. In the very worst of cases, however, the death penalty may happen if the easier way cannot be executed. It should be kept in mind that it there is preliminarily always a good solution that is possible with more loving and/or effective healing.

§ 13 Hereby, all other worldly laws are rendered inoperative, and only the cosmic and the natural/karmic Law is abovethis*.

* equivalent spelling mistakes in original

Original GermanGdNZ - Gesetz der neuen Zeit
(zum Übergang und zur Säuberung des Islam-Virus)

§ 1 Religion ist verboten. Wir verbinden uns mit der geistigen Führung. Wer diese leugnet oder lächerlich macht, kann aus der Gemeinde verstoßen werden.

§ 2 Wer anderen gegen seinen Willen seinen Glauben aufzwingt und/oder wegen Religion terrorisiert, wird mit dem Tode bestraft.

§ 3 Moscheen, Kirchen und Atomkraftwerke bauen ist verboten. Jeder hat ein Recht auf ein Dach über den Kopf, freie Energie, freie gesunde Nahrung und ein Fahrzeug und/oder auf Viehzucht. Steuern und div. dubiose Abgaben sind verboten.

§ 4 Kopftücher zur religiösen Vermummung sind strikt verboten.

§ 5 Baden am See mit Klamotten / Kleidung ist verboten. Es wird nackt gebadet, so wie es ein gesunder Mensch in der Natur für üblich tut.

§ 6 Wer gewalttätig oder lügnerisch bzw. betrügerisch handelt, oder sich so verhält, wird aus der Gemeinschaft verstoßen und/oder kann ev. mit dem Tode bestraft werden, geltend vorwiegend für den Islam-Terror oder Zeugen Jehovas.

§ 7 Wer gegen diese Gesetze verstößt kann mit dem Tode bestraft und/oder aus der Gemeinde ausgeschlossen werden.

§ 8 Wer “im Nammen Allah’s“ Kriege oder Mord begeht, wird wegen Gotteslästerung aus der Gemeinde verstoßen und kann mit dem Tode bestraft werden.

§ 9 Respekt, Liebe und Wahrheit sind oberste Priorität, wer dagegen verstößt, wird aus der Gemeinde ausgeschlossen, und kann auch mit dem Tode bestraft werden. Gott hat keine Religion und heißt auch nicht Allah!

§ 10 Hochzeiten sind unnötig, denn wir sind alle freie Menschen, niemand gehört niemanden. Wer andere wegen der Liebe belästigt, kann aus der Gemeinde verstoßen oder mit dem Tode bestraft werden.

§ 11 Die Todesstrafen sind nur als letzte Instanz nur im äußersten Notfall anzuwenden und von der Gemeinschaft durchzuführen, insofern eine geistige Heilung bei einem geistig-sittlichen Wesen (sogenannt Mensch) nicht mehr möglich ist. Jeder bekommt die Chance in dieser oder spätestens in der nächsten Inkarnation alles wieder gut zu machen. Verzeihung ist die erste Lösung. Wenn die erste Lösung funktioniert und Straftaten nicht wiederholt werden, ist die Vollstreckung letzter Instanz (Todesstrafe) vermeidbar. Im allerschlimmsten Fall kann es aber zur Todesstrafe kommen, sollte der einfachere Weg nicht durchführbar sein. Man bedenke daß es vorerst immer eine gute Lösung gibt, welche mit liebevoller und/oder effektiver Heilung möglich ist.

§ 12 Dieses Gesetz ist rechtskräftig mit sofortigem Datum (24. Februar 2017 n.Chr.) und solange, wie es benötigt wird.

§ 13 Alle anderen weltlichen Gesetze sind hiermit aufgehoben, und es steht nur das kosmische und das natürliche bzw. das karmische Gesetz überdies.

Anonymous #fundie rapidnet.com

"Christian" Fantasy

Biblical or Oxymoron?

- The dictionary defines fable as:

"fantasy/fiction/falsehood dependent for effect on strangeness of setting (as other worlds or times) and of characters (as supernatural or unnatural beings); the setting is usually in a non-existent or unreal world, the characters are fanciful or unreal, or the conflict focuses on physical or scientific principles not yet discovered or contrary to present experience."

- Fantasy is especially dangerous for children. While most children in the 1970s knew enough truth to place divination in the forbidden realm of the occult, today's children -- who often feel more comfortable with occult games than Biblical truth -- see nothing wrong with pagan practices. Fantasy movies, like Disney's The Lion King, are good matches for the new earth-centered paradigm or world view that is transforming childrens' views of reality. While God told us to continually communicate truth to our children (Deut. 6:5-7), today's culture trains children to see reality through a global, earth-centered filter. This "new" mental framework distorts truth, stretches the meaning of familiar words, and promotes mystical "insights" that are incompatible with Christianity. Packaged with entertainment, this message usually bypasses rational resistance, desensitizes opened minds, and fuels general acceptance of pagan spirituality (Berit Kjos, "The Spirit Behind The Lion King," 1/95, The Christian Conscience, pp. 32-34).

- Most true Christians would recognize fantasy, such as the movie Star Wars, as being extremely wicked (in this case, sorcery -- "The Force" being equivalent to black magic and white witchcraft). Yet, apparently, when we call it "Christian," this somehow sanctifies what we do with our minds (imaginations), or what we allow our minds to entertain. For example, one can look in any issue of the Christian Book Distributors Fiction Catalog and find the most outrageous fantasy literature, yet it is all dubbed "Christian." The following is taken from the CBD Fiction Catalog, 9/94 premier edition:

" ... now there's no more compromising for those who love Christian fiction, because you are holding the key to your next escape-from-it-all right in the palm of your hand ... CBD's brand new Fiction Catalog? It's filled with the latest and the best refreshing, thrilling, inspiring, wholesome fiction for you and your family" (p. 2).

Wholesome? The following is a sample of that which CBD considers "wholesome." [Much of this type of writing comes from medieval mysticism, which God hates (cf. Deut. 18: 10-12).]:

(a) Millennium's Dawn, by Ed Stewart (p. 25):

"June 2001. The future never seemed brighter for Dr. Evan Rider and his new bride, Shelby, as they prepare to embark on the honeymoon of their dreams. But the dream quickly becomes a nightmare as a long-buried secret shared by three college friends erupts, engulfing the couple in a sinister plot of blackmail, terror, and betrayal."

(b) Till We Have Faces, by C. S. Lewis (p. 34):

"The unlovely Orual, eldest daughter of the King of Glome, becomes so consumed by her mingled love and jealousy of her beautiful half-sister that she makes a complaint to the gods -- and receives an answer she did not expect. This novel, possibly Lewis' best work and the one he considered his own favorite, is his compelling rework of the myth of Cupid and Psyche." [Sound like something you could want your children to read -- about "the gods"?]

(c) The Song of Albion, by Stephen Lawhead (p. 33):

"Wolves prowl the streets of Oxford. A Green Man haunts the Highlands. A breach has been opened between our world and the Celtic Otherworld and anything, anyone, may now enter [sounds similar to Poltergeist, one of the most wicked movies ever produced]. But it's Lewis Gillies, an American graduate student at Oxford, who reluctantly stumbles through. In the savagely beautiful Otherworld, Lewis finds himself caught in an epic struggle between light and darkness -- a struggle that will determine the fate of his own world. Memorably penned with vivid and poetic imagery, Lawhead's breathtaking reworking of Celtic myth will keep you reading long into the night" [no doubt, and right into the DARKNESS! -- the Celtic civilization is the culture from which we have received much of our modern day Halloween practices.]

- "Well," someone might say, "I'm not doing anything wicked, I'm just reading about wickedness." But does this align with godliness? There are four things about fantasy which must be considered:

I. It is Anti-Truth.
II. It Slips Into Reality.
III. It Does Not Fit True Godliness.
IV. A Love for God Will Oppose It.


I. Fantasy Is Anti-Truth

Isaiah 32:6 describes error against the Lord. All lies are against God (1 John 2:21; John 8:44). Satan is the father of lies. Since fantasy is not true, then it is a lie! We have been duped into thinking there is some spiritual gray realm out there in which something can be neither true nor a lie. It's just called fantasy! But fantasy is made up of lies, deceit, and unreality, all wrapped up in a pretty (or sometimes, not so pretty) package.

How about the popular 1994 Disney occult/New Age "children's animation" film, The Lion King, which some consider wholesome "fantasy." One observer wrote this about The Lion King:

"The Lion King packs a powerful New Age symbolism and philosophy. Its theme, the 'Circle of Life' is a variation on the cycles of nature: life, death and rebirth, particularly as it relates to the theory of evolution. The film presents this theme from the perspective of the nature religion, more so than Disney films of the past -- 'We are all connected in the great circle of life.' The accoutrements of shamanistic ritualism is graphically portrayed in the dedication of the baby Simba to the spirits of the earth" (Media Spotlight, Vol. 15, No. 2, p. 3).

Yet, we have others who claim the name of Christ, like James Dobson's Focus on the Family, who would like to encourage you to go and see this film that is filled with abominable contents. (See the 8/15/94 Parental Guidance magazine, which is published by Focus on the Family.) FOTF claims that The Lion King has only a few slight imperfections, otherwise it is "a wholesome, brilliantly animated picture relating the importance of family and responsibility."

A "few slight imperfections"? How about the character Rafiki speaking of the eternal state of life and his connectedness with it when Simba, as an adult lion, asks the question, "You knew my father." Rafiki's answer: "Correction! I know your father." Recalling that his father had once told him that the stars are former kings who look down on the earth and guide its inhabitants, Simba looks up at the stars and cries out to his father, "You said you'd always be with me, but you aren't." Shortly thereafter his father appears to him [spiritism; cf. Deut. 18:10ff] in a cloud and reminds him of his responsibility to assume his rightful place in the circle of life. -- "Look inside yourself, Simba," he says. "You are more than what you have become."

Besides the spiritism in the film, ask yourself a question -- "Do animals talk?" Just on this fantasy alone (animals talking) it is a lie.


II. Fantasy Subtly Slips Into Reality.

It becomes very difficult to separate fantasy from reality, especially in the minds of children. There was an interesting article in The Newhall Signal (newspaper) in light of this. Noting one of the teachings of the popular fantasy games, "Death is usually seen as a temporary state with characters returning 'from beyond' to play again" (7/22/87, The Newhall Signal, "Fantasy Games Linked to Real Deaths," p. 16).

Notice a few more books in the CBD Catalog:

(a) A Skeleton in God's Closet, by Paul L. Maier (p. 25):

"Move over, Indiana Jones! In this novel, Harvard archaeologist Dr. John Weber has just discovered a shocking secret -- Jesus' bones. The evidence [an obvious denial of the resurrection] seems incontestable. When word of the discovery leaks out, pandemonium ensues and millions abandon their Christian faith. But which is the hoax -- the archaeological find or the Resurrection itself?" [How can this be edifying?]

(b) The Guardian, by Jane Hamilton (p. 25):

"A new frontier for Christian fiction! Tabris [a guardian angel] has been given a second chance. As a guardian angel, he was found guilty of committing the one unforgivable act against his human charge and against God. Yet God, with mercy and grace, has forgiven Tabris and given him one more assignment -- one more human being to protect. Why? Find out in this celestial parable that will illuminate the indefinable love God has for his creation -- you, me, even angels. " (Emphasis added.) [See the jump from fantasy to reality -- cf. Heb. 2:16 -- any angel who has ever sinned is a demon. Sinning angels are never forgiven, but doomed eternally!]

(c) Darien: The Guardian Angel of Jesus, by Roger Elwood (p. 22):

"The ultimate adventure with an unforgettable guardian angel! Of all the guardian angels in heaven, God chose only one to protect Christ during His time on earth. He chose Darien. (That's the Darien who questioned God's decision to throw Lucifer from heaven and was sent to earth to witness Lucifer's destruction of the world in the novel Angel Walk.) You can imagine that Darien has quite a tale to tell, protecting God's own son -- and he tells it with poignancy and originality. Through this angel's eyes, you'll go on a fascinating and even disturbing journey from the time of Lucifer's rebellion, to creation, to the miracles of Jesus' birth and life. If the stories of Christ's life have become just matter-of-fact Sunday school lessons to you, then here's the breath of fresh air you need!" [Notice the move from fantasy into reality? How are lies, deceit, and fantasy going to freshen one's love for the Word of God?]

This move from fantasy to reality, by definition, affects one's view of reality. Remember when Close Encounters of the Third Kind came out? People believed it! Fantasy gets people to fantasize about reality. It is a slippery slide into lies unknowingly.
III. Fantasy Does Not Fit True Godliness

What is godliness (1 Tim. 6:3; Prov. 3:5-6; 28:14)? Romans 1:18 teaches that God's wrath is against "ungodliness." And as shown above, fantasy is ungodliness. Diving into fantasy, which, by its very nature is against the Truth, is a denial of God, what He says, and the Truth of His Word. How can a lie be used for evangelism, worship, or anything else godly? By its very nature, fantasy removes the person from the Truth (reality) and moves them into a realm away from God. This ungodliness is well depicted in the CBD Fiction Catalog, where it says on page 2:

"It's been said that reading fiction is one of the best ways to 'escape' from the cares of everyday life. Since the beginning of time, great thinkers and writers (even Jesus himself) have been inspired to create allegories, parables and epics, as well as the good, old-fashioned novel itself. What a tragedy to think we have to settle for fiction that merely grabs our attention, but lacks the values and spiritual insight we could carry with us when we return to the 'real world.'" [Again, the move from fantasy to reality.]

Is this what the Lord wants us to do -- "escape" from reality? No! Fantasy is an attack on the very core of one's being as a follower of Christ! And what about the claim that Jesus' parables and the allegories in Scripture, or figurative speech, are parallel to the use of fantasy? No! The Bible's parables, allegories, and figurative speech are not about fantasy at all. They are all about Truth!


IV. A Love For God Will Oppose Fantasy

God would not have His children take refuge in unreality. A love for God is equal to a love for the Truth (John 14:6). Matthew 22:34-40 teaches to love the Lord with all your mind (imagination). What does the Lord say in Ephesians 4:25? -- Speak the Truth to one another! Do we ever stop speaking the truth and speak fantasy to one another, or write fantasy to one another? Is this how God would have us live? Notice Ephesians 4:29. What's the goal? Build each other up in the TRUTH! (not in fantasy). If a Christian is loving the Lord with all his MIND (imagination), he will be dwelling on truth, reality, His Word, and Him, NOT FAIRY TALES AND FANTASY!

Fantasy typically is filled with evil. What should be the Christian's perspective of evil (Rom. 16:19)? If we love the Lord with all our MINDS, then we will not only avoid taking any pleasure in fantasy, but we will hate it. Because fantasy is anti-reality, it is against godliness, it opens the door to deceit, and is an affront to the very core of your being as a Christian. And what is that? -- Taking refuge in God, not escaping reality (Psalm 73:25-28).


- In 2 Timothy 4:3-4 ("For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths"), the Greek word translated myths means tales, stories, or fables (untrue stories). So what about Pilgrim's Progress and other so-called Christian stories like it?

Pilgrim's Progress (by John Bunyan) is claimed by many to be a good illustration of the truth -- the truth of a Christian's pilgrimage in this life. Some would say, "The Bible uses (a) parables, (b) allegories, (c) figurative language, symbolism, etc., and (d) dreams and visions, so what's wrong with Pilgrim's Progress doing the same? A few examples follow:

(a) Parables are not fables.

Matt. 12: 33-35 (using a real idea, expressing another real idea)
Matt. 13:3-9/18-23 (real/real)
Matt. 13:24-30/13:37-43 (real/real)
Matt. 13:31-32 (real/real)
Matt. 13:33 (real/real)
Matt. 13:44 (real/real)
Matt. 13:45-46 (real/real - He does not fly out of the realm of reality)
Matt. 13:47-50 (real/real)

(b) Allegory is symbolic, not mythical -- Gal. 4:22-31 (real/real)

(c) Figurative is not mythical -- John 6:53-63 -- Jesus does not fly out of the realm of reality. In fact, He uses such explicitly (real) language that people are having a hard time understanding Him. Yet, He explains that He is speaking in a figurative way (John 6:63).

(d) Dreams and Visions are not untrue stories -- Daniel 7:1ff; 8:17 refers to truth; 8:26 ("is true"); 9:21 (writing of Truth). These are not untrue stories (fables). Ezekiel 1 &10 -- these are real creatures!

So what about Pilgrim's Progress? There are serious problems in what that book teaches. For example, Christian leaves his armor behind and eventually his sword for the rest of his journey. This does not at all square with Ephesians 6.

Of course, someone would say, "It just a story." Exactly. It is a story that is supposed to illustrate truth, and when it fails to do this, it falls short and becomes an untrue story (fable), which is not doing a good job (at times) in illustrating truth. No doubt, there are many aspects about the story that are interesting and thought-provoking, but that does not excuse the twisting of truth into a lie. Here are some more problems:

(a) Is it a myth? Yes. "But, it is a 'Christian' myth!" Is this supposed to make it okay? No, it makes it worse! That's what Paul was talking about in 2 Tim. 4:4? Pagan myths? No -- "Christian" myths! That's why it is so dangerous.

(b) Another possible danger with Pilgrim's Progress is that the Christian life could be seen through the eyes of the story rather than solely through the Word of God. Romans says to transform our minds (12:1). Only the Word of God can do that, not "Christian" fantasy. A Christian's affection should be upon God's Word and His truth, not the fables of men. This type of Christian fable can pull our affections away from the Word.

(c) Has the Word of God become so dull, dry, drab, or undesirable to us that we would even think we would need such a book as Pilgrim's Progress to spur us on in the faith?
- A few more Scriptures indicate our concern with "Christian" fantasy:

(a) 2 Peter 1:16 -- We did not follow cleverly invented stories when we told you about the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but we were eyewitnesses of his majesty.

(b) Titus 1:14 -- and will pay no attention to Jewish myths or to the commands of those who reject the truth.

(c) 1 Timothy 1:4 -- nor to devote themselves to myths and endless genealogies. These promote controversies rather than God's work -- which is by faith.

(d) 1 Timothy 4:7 -- Have nothing to do with godless myths and old wives' tales; rather, train yourself to be godly.

- Considering the present distress (2 Tim. 3:1), how can fantasy, no matter how supposedly good it may be, be found profitable? We need to concentrate on reality -- the truth of the Word of God -- and leave the fantasizing to those who are perishing (especially in light of the prevailing ignorance of the Word). And, especially when Paul describes the "against the true church" as those who will "be turned aside to fables," we ought to hold fast to the truth -- the Word of God (1 Thess. 5:21).
An Example from a "Christian" College

A recent FrontLine magazine (Vol. 6, No. 4) with a cover theme, "The Christian and the Arts," carried a lead article titled "The God of All Beauty." The article is very disturbing because it lists so many Scripture references [out of context/misapplied], but the author's rationalizations fail to give due consideration to Pauline Epistle truths for this Church Age and the warnings about this world/age. Two other articles in this FrontLine issue are by Donna Lynn Hess of Bob Jones University (BJU), one on fantasy and the other on selecting reading material for children.

The first article refers favorably to C.S. Lewis, a devotee and author of occult fantasy with unbiblical metaphors; yet Hess claims that this kind of fantasy is useful in helping children "develop valuable literary skills" and in developing an understanding of "similar literary elements used in Scripture." In the second article by Hess, she states: "As Christian parents, we recognize the need for choosing books in which the theme is morally sound. But it is just as important to be sure that this theme is artfully expressed"; she also says that it's okay to expose children to stories with themes "antithetical to Christian beliefs" in order to "help inoculate them against the false ideas, attitudes and behaviors these writers promote."

BJU's ShowForth video division ("The video source you can trust.") also markets three video productions of C.S. Lewis' fiction, and a documentary biography of Lewis himself. ShowForth's catalog layout (p. 7), under "Inspirational," lists C.S. Lewis as one of the "Warriors of the Word" along with C.H. Spurgeon. Considering Lewis' many theological errors, it is dangerously deceptive to place him in such august company. A pastor knowledgeable in the unbiblical teachings of Lewis wrote to BJU documenting Lewis's errors. BJU responded with an involved, articulate, but off-the-mark defense for using "fantasy" as a teaching tool.

In the articles in FrontLine, as well in articles sent out by ShowForth, Hess gives an unusually broad description to the term "fantasy," and does not give adequate consideration to the whole counsel of God. "Fantasy" should not be used, as BJU does, to describe the figures of speech and literary techniques found in God's Word. More serious study ought be made of the nature of God, the condemnation of all forms of spiritism throughout Scripture, the recurring theme of sober/sound mind (especially in the New Testament), and the disassociation in the Epistles with "fables" (myths) in presenting God's message.

In these times we live in, we believe pastors and parents must exercise extreme caution regarding the literary use of fantasy. But caution is apparently not in BJU's vocabulary concerning this matter. BJU Press has published Medallion, a popular fantasy reader for elementary age home-schoolers. There are strange similarities between Medallion and two explicitly pagan books -- one a sixth-grade reader for public schools called The Dark is Rising, and a Wiccan manual by Starhawk called The Spiral Dance. In response to a review of Medallion by Berit Kjos, BJU trivializes the similarities, and states, "It appears that what this critique requires of Medallion rules out all fantasy for the Christian. We hold that no story can mix fantasy with the supernatural facts of Scripture without dangerously trivializing Biblical truth by associating scriptural realities with a dream world." [Couldn't have stated the truth more clearly if we had tried!] Contrary to the scholarly opinion of BJU's Literature and Language departments, "Christian" fantasy parallels the occultic literature for children, using similar images, story-lines, symbols, and characters. Literary fantasy, rather than being neutral, has occultic roots. (This paragraph was excerpted and/or adapted from the 10/96, The Christian Conscience, "Pagan Story for Christian Children," pp. 40-42; see page 41 for a detailed comparison of Medallion and The Dark is Rising.)

afchief #fundie disqus.com

afchief:
One of the few on the bench who believed in our Constitution. Our country lost a great patriot and Constitutional icon. He will be missed.

I'm sure Osamabama is salivating to put another homo, anti-constitutional person on the bench. All McConnell and the Republican leadership have to do is to decline to consider any nominee appointed by Osamabama. State clearly that the Senate is exercising its constitutional power and, unlike Osamabama who presumes powers he does not have, that the power to confirm or deny a presidential appointment is at the heart of the Senate's control of the Executive Branch.

Ambulance Chaser:
What do you care? You think the Supreme Court has no power.

afchief:
They do not have any power. Brain dead liberals like you, and manipulated Christians believe otherwise.

I'm spreading the truth far and wide that we are being lied to about the role of the SCOTUS.

Let the truth be known!!!

acontraryview:
"They do not have any power. "

Then what does it matter who gets appointed?

Quantz:
What you are spreading is politely called manure, sir.

afchief:
Then prove me wrong!!!!

Guess what you can't!!!!!!!

gogo0:
if the SCOTUS rules that banning abortion is constitutional, would you still say they have no power?

afchief:
Liberals are dumber then a box of rocks. I see it ALL the time. Show me where in the Constitution it states their opinions are binding.

Waiting................................................................................................

[long citation to the Constitution]

afchief:
They have NO power, period!!!

Ambulance Chaser:
And yet, the entire country obeys their rulings. Hence, they have power.

afchief:
Then show me the law Mr. Make Believe Lawyer!!!!

Ambulance Chaser:
Sure. Right after you show me a lawyer who doesn't cite case law.

afchief:
So you are telling me "case law" IS law? Is that what you are telling me????

Where did you get that law degree from? Rocko's lawyer school for the mentally challenged liberal?!?!?

LOL!!!!

Bob Johnson:
Instead of a long cut and paste, I will point you to an online textbook on Supreme Court Decision Making -
http://www. thisnation. com/textbook/judiciary-decision.html

If after reading the article you still hold your current views, could you please point us to textbooks on American law?

This way we can both have common references for continuing this discussion.

afchief:
Instead, let's use their job description! Show me where it says case law IS law

Waiting...........................................................

[Another long copypasta citation to the Constitution]

Bob Johnson:
A shorter reply would be

Section. 2.

The judicial Power shall extend to all Cases, in Law and Equity, arising under this Constitution,

afchief:
LOL! Does it say that case law IS law. No it says their power extends to all cases.

This is why liberalism truly is a mental disorder. The law is whatever liberals think it is.

Go read this article that came out 2 days ago and concentrate on the bottom half of the article. Look up the references in the article. And educate yourself!!!!!

February 16, 2016
Did Justice Scalia Already Give Us the Solution to the Problem of Filling His Seat?
By Selwyn Duke

Ambulance Chaser:
Yes, that's what I'm telling you.

afchief:
Let's read an article that came out yesterday? Shall we? It explains in detail what I have been saying to Mr. Make Believe Lawyer. I'll skip the first part of the article and get to the meat.

[Copies and pastes an entire article]

Ambulance Chaser:
Yes, that's nice. Your long copypasta is essentially saying that American jurisprudence SHOULDN'T be as dependent as it is on case law. Not that it ISN'T dependent on case law.

Frankly, as I've said before, I have no interest in debating what American law should look like. It's an interesting thought exercise, but it has no bearing on the actual practice of law.

You keep asking me where I went to law school, and calling me a fake lawyer, implying that you believe that real lawyers understand that Supreme Court precedent serves no binding purpose. But even your own quoted article doesn't say that. It just says it SHOULDN'T.

Well, law schools teach students how to practice law not how to debate the intellectual abstractions of it. I went to law school to learn how to be a lawyer, not an academic or a philosopher. While history professors and philosophers debate the actual meaning of the Constitution, I am going to go ahead and continue practicing law as I was taught and as every lawyer, professor, and judge that I've ever met practices it.

afchief:
And yet you still do not understand that the SCOTUS cannot strike down any laws. Did you study the Constitution? Where does it state that so and so vs. so and so is law? Where? Not in the Constitution. Did you study how law is made, changed, and removed? There are ONLY two ways laws are made, changed, or struck down in our country and the SCOTUS is not one of them.

If 10 million people of a state vote for a "law" to be passed you are telling me 5 people in black robes can strike down that law? Is that what you are telling me? You learned that in law school? Really?

Sorry again, you must have went to Rocko's school for the liberal and homosexual impaired. Because you are WRONG!!!!!

Rapture Ready in a Nutshell

Though BarbT deserves a point for *no man knows the day or the hour*.

various RR members #fundie rr-bb.com

[Rapture Ready members respond to Harold Camping's May 21st, 2011 prediction of Jesus' second coming]

IMSAVED: "WHAT? That is crazy. Maybe it is being used in the rapture senario somehow"

carlos.c304: "This group of people is a cult with totally unscriptural doctrine and beliefs. Their conclusions are entirely faulty and their doctrine is herecy. [...]"

BarbT: "A caller into his show berated him for ignoring scripture which tells us *no man knows the day or the hour*.

Camping got angry and responded "true believers" CAN know the exact day and hour....of course he and his supporters are the "elect" true believers while the rest of us are hell bound. [eye-roll]

Get ready folks ...... this guy is going to be VERY embarrassed on May 21st. It'll almost be worth holding off the rapture just to see it."

jadeeyes: "It's possible that the rapture may occur even before May 21."

Raphael: "I have to wonder which would be more entertaining:

Rapture doesn't happen in May. Camping tries to explain why he's still here.

Rapture happens before May. Camping tries to explain why he's still here."

Andy Schlafly #fundie conservapedia.com

[Replying to an article which claims the story where Jesus says, "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone" is a forgery and shouldn't be in the Bible]

Thanks for your superb analysis, Michael, from which I learned immensely.

For the record, the ideological objection is not to how liberals "twist" this passage, but how the passage itself is written in such a liberal way that it renders its authenticity doubtful. It would be akin to discovering a passage that said something like this: "Jesus then said that government should take from the rich and give to the poor." Historical analysis can prove that to be non-authentic; political analysis can reach the same conclusion more efficiently and with a high degree of certitude.

Jesus did not forgive without repentance, yet the Adulteress Story claims He did. Jesus did not comment on capital punishment, yet the Adulteress Story claims He did. Jesus was not permissive about adultery, yet the Adulteress Story He was. Older people are not always wiser than younger ones, yet the Adulteress Story claims they are. And so on

diggerfortruth #fundie #conspiracy #racist diggerfortruth.wordpress.com

10 Reasons why Hitler was one of the Good Guys
Initially I had intended creating a piece titled “10 Myths about Hitler” but decided that there were so many, that I switched topic slightly. I understand like most of my work, these areas outlined only give a flavor and are not conclusively resourced. But that’s OK. It’s a carrot and hopefully just enough for people (even skeptics) to do their own research on these controversial areas. When people find things out for themselves, this has much more substance. All these areas are verifiable. They just take a bit of objective, independent research. There are links at the bottom of the page to help one’s research.

1/. He never wanted to kill any Jews Whenever you hear anyone espouse (repeat) the lies about Hitler the nasty Jew-killer. Please always make a point of asking this very simple question: “Where did you get that information from?” Perhaps we all at some point have repeated this fable. Why would we not, when it’s shoved down our throats 24/7, year in year out for decades(?) There hasn’t been a man on this planet who has been demonized as much as Herr Hitler. If Hitler wanted to kill Jews, why oh why throughout all his speeches and manuscripts and his book Mein Kampf did he not mention this? Did he just forget? No, he didn’t say or write it BECAUSE HE HAD NO INTENTION OF KILLING THE JEWS. No matter what amount of destruction he had observed done by the Jews to his people; he had enough self-discipline and ethical code not to take revenge. Being a strong character, he was able to rise above the darkness, the demonic standards of the judaic mindset and show self-restraint and humility. That is why he created ‘containment work camps’ for the Jews and certainly NOT death camps. k

Because he was one of the good guys.

2/. He cared about conditions for the Jews in the work camps Unbeknown to billions of people the Nazi camps were not death camps, nor were they places to carry out human experiments. They were simply containment camps. Something had to be done with these destructive anti-social Jews who were strangling Germany. Thanks to the Jews, Germany had lost it’s moral code and had become debased and de-cultured ….does that ring a bell? Something had to be done! And Hitler did do something – he placed all the Jews in containment camps to allow Germany to breath again. But – this is the key point in this essay/piece. He did it in a way which was ethical. The camps had decent sufficient food (bearing in mind it was war time), they had theaters, swimming pools, football pitches, post offices where inmates could communicate to the outside world, kindergartens, art and music recreation and even prostitutes. Quality sanitation within the camps was paramount and that is why the inmates clothes were regularly de-loused with zyclon B gas. There were no human gas chambers……THAT IS A BIG FAT KOSHER LIE; to which the world has had to endure for over half a century. My theory is that if there had not have been a war effort, Hitler would not have even made the Jews work. AND I bet you the containment camps would have been luxury rehabilitation centers. In order to slowly de-programme the Jews from their mind control cult. k

Because he was one of the good guys.

3/. He had compassion for other sentient beings Many historians claim he was a vegetarian. I believe this is kind of true, he was a pescotarian (he occasionally ate fish); but whether this it is or not, the point is he had a clear connection and affection for his fellow creatures. I’m not suggesting just because he may have been a veggie that therefore he was a good person; but this was a man of compassion and that he recognised the importance of compassion in society. He had so much affection for his German shepherds (picture above with his beloved dog). He banned all animal experimentation, recocnizing it to be evil. Hitler could see the connection between all life forms. It was his level of consciousness. Respect for nature, animals and human life. k

Because he was one of the good guys.

4/. He tried to prevent the destruction of his fellow Europeans Numerous occasions Hitler tried to warn and assist his fellow brethren about the Jewish trap they had fallen for and who really was behind all the warmonger. He dropped fliers from planes trying in vein to prevent Germany and Britain fighting. He initially wanted to make alliances with Britain. Many occasions he gave opportunities to opposing European forces, where he could have slaughtered them. It was his internal spiritual angst for him to be fighting (defending) amongst his European brothers and sisters. He did all he could to avoid war, he was not the warmonger we all have been led to believe. k

Because he was one of the good guys.

5/. He cared passionately about his people and German heritage Hitler observed the degrading machinations of the Jews in Austria and Germany. It not only disgusted and angered him, but saddened him to see how these two nations were being destroyed from the inside out like a cancer – a cancer that his sleepy folksmen could not see. The exact same angst those of us who are Jew-conscious find ourselves in. He was a man who cared about society, a man who cared about culture, who cared about nature, about moral values and about building and improving as opposed to destroying and degrading. He was a man who had fought for his country, in the trenches and been hospitalized for his country. How many of our sell out politicians today can claim that? He was a true spokesman of the people, for the people who had diligently worked his way up from grass roots. From microcosmic pep talks to his fellow workman on building sites, to talks in beer houses, to speeches in basements, to town halls. As well as all the behind-the-scenes work and risks. Slung in jail, mocked and defamed. Endless tireless work to resolve the destruction of his peoples. I would also strongly suggest he cared about all peoples. Yes, including black people, despite the kosher myth he was a supremacist racist. k

Because he was one of the good guys.

6/. He was a humble man, from a humble background Can any of us name one present western politician who can claim that these days? No, today they’re all criminals, fed through the kosher criminal system. All built on materialistic gain and kudos. All content with serving the beast for their demonic and self-serving interests. Their greed and hubris having no boundaries. Hitler worked on building sites as a laborer for crying out loud. How many of these leaches under the guise of politicians do you know have that background? He was also a humble street artist, barely scraping a living together. Some days he had to decide whether to spend his meager earnings on a political book, or to eat – he opted for the former. Now that is passion in politics and a drive for social reform. k

Because he was one of the good guys.

7/. He held correspondence with Mahatma Gandhi This alone doesn’t necessarily suggest he was a good person. But more that Gandhi and Hitler were in alignment on many issues. They both recognized the evil force they were up against and both were coming from a humanitarian position. The bottom line is Gandhi would not have corresponded with a so-called evil mad dictator hell bent on wanting to kill the Jews and rule the world. k

Because he was one of the good guys.

8/. He was a man of God Hitler was NOT an atheist – despite what the Jewish propaganda machine wants us to believe. He often made references to God and spoke in terms of a Divinity. He was somebody who could clearly make the connection between Divine law and Natural laws. He was spiritually and morally driven throughout all his political career. Read his book Mein Kampf to see his consistent reference to Christian values.
tk

Because he was one of the good guys.

9/. He implemented cultural and social reform Throughout Hitler’s political career, his common theme was about ‘cleaning up’. He had seen the filth the Jews had created and desperately wanted Germany to reverse these degrading trends. He banned supermarkets, because he wanted local small businesses to prosper. He banned degrading modern art, as he recognised it for what it was. He banned vivisection (animal experiments), because in his wisdom he could see how futile and unnecessary they were. He encouraged healthy youth activities and social programmes to enhance cultural pride and individual self worth, such as sports and recreational activities. He encouraged men to be men and women to be feminine. He helped develop beauty, cleanliness and pride back into the Germany people. k

Because he was one of the good guys.

10/. He stamped on usury This subject links in most of the points in this list and what Hitler achieved as a leader. But I thought it was essential that this topic was highlighted in isolation, as it was probably the single most important act of bravery and compassion Hitler offered to his people. Unfortunately this act alone was enough to piss off the Jewish IMF and therefore create WW2. Usury is the elite Jews most powerful and demonic weapon amongst their whole armament of destructive weapons. More powerful than their poisons and even their mind control techniques. Because it’s their use of compound interest that enables them to create a stranglehold on every industry and therefore every level of society. Nobody can escape usury – everybody is infected by it. That is why Hitler created his own independent currency as a first move when he came to power. And hey presto – that is why Germany was able to get back on it’s feet and flourish as all nations should. Hitler recognised the judaic invention of usury as unlawful, ungodly and unnatural – and as a talmudic curse which has crippled every host nation the Jews have entered into and ultimately, that which brings about their demise. Hitler freed his people of this curse. k

Because he was one of the good guys.

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In conclusion Hitler was probably the hero of the second world war and the 21st century. A man of ethical courage, a man of spiritual perception and good intent. A spiritual soul who cared – cared about all life forms, all cultures, about goodness and Light and ultimately about Truth. k

Because he was one of the good guys.

Summary

1/. He never wanted to kill any Jews
2/. He cared about conditions for the Jews in the work camps
3/. He had compassion for other sentient beings
4/. He tried to prevent the destruction of his fellow Europeans
5/. He cared passionately about his people and German heritage
6/. He was a humble man, from a humble background
7/. He held correspondence with Mahatma Gandhi
8/. He was a man of God
9/. He implemented cultural and social reform
10/. He stamped on usury

Related info

Video of Gandhi’s correspondence to Hitler http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q49p-mdnX_0

Film on Hitler (which is not told in the Jewish main stream outlets) http://thegreateststorynevertold.tv/

More info on Hitler – I do not agree on the Rence video/interview that Hitler went to Argentina. This is more dis-info/confusion. http://xavianthaze.blogspot.co.uk/2014/03/the-unknown-hitler-10-ironic-facts.html kk

Mein Kampf May I suggest when reading it, digest it slowly. It needs concentration and is certainly not a casual weekend read. http://www.hitler.org/writings/Mein_Kampf/ k

Deanna Spingola’s amazing comprehensive research Predominantly on WW1 and WW2. Deanna is a historian of Truth. She is passionate about these areas; it really is her forte. We are so grateful for her consistent efforts. http://spingola.com/ k

CODOH http://codoh.com/ kSite exposing the holohoax swindle.

Audio of a debate/discussion with John Friend and Jim Condit on Adolf Hitler http://blogtalk.vo.llnwd.net/o23/show/4/276/show_4276967.mp3 k

Jusury

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jT0grvk16NI&feature=player_embedded http://revisionisthistorystore.blogspot.co.uk/2010/03/michael-hoffmans-online-revisionist.html
“Once again the conspiracy of pitiful, corrupt political creatures and financial magnets made its appearance for whom war is welcome to bolster business. The international Jewish poison of the peoples began to agitate and to corrode healthy minds. Men of letters sent out to portray decent men who desired peace calling them weaklings and traitors to denounce opposition parties as a “fifth column” in order to eliminate internal resistance to their criminal policy of war”
Adolf Hitler
Hitler’s Peace Plans
Compiled by Mark R. Elsis
http://spingola.com/hitlerspeaceplans2.html
Deputy Führer Rudolf Hess
A Courageous Hero For Peace
by Mark R. Elsis
http://RudolfHess.net
Holocaust Revisionism
by Mark R. Elsis
http://HolocaustRevisionism.com

Chris Hedges #conspiracy truthdig.com

Sanders squandered his most important historical moment. He had a chance, one chance, to take the energy, anger and momentum, walk out the doors of the Wells Fargo Center and into the streets to help build a third-party movement. His call to his delegates to face “reality” and support Clinton was an insulting repudiation of the reality his supporters, mostly young men and young women, had overcome by lifting him from an obscure candidate polling at 12 percent into a serious contender for the nomination. Sanders not only sold out his base, he mocked it. This was a spiritual wound, not a political one. For this he must ask forgiveness.

Whatever resistance happens will happen without him. Whatever political revolution happens will happen without him. Whatever hope we have for a sustainable future will happen without him. Sanders, who once lifted up the yearnings of millions, has become an impediment to change. He took his 30 pieces of silver and joined with a bankrupt liberal establishment on behalf of a candidate who is a tool of Wall Street, a proponent of endless war and an enemy of the working class.

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To reduce the political debate, as Sanders and others are doing, to political personalities is political infantilism. We have undergone a corporate coup. Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton will not reverse this coup. They, like Barack Obama, know where the centers of power lie. They serve these centers of power.

Change will come when we have the tenacity, as many Sanders delegates did, to refuse to cooperate, to say no, to no longer participate in the political charade. Change will come when we begin acts of sustained mass civil disobedience. Change will come when the fear the corporate state uses to paralyze us is used by us to paralyze the corporate state.

The Russian writer Alexander Herzen, speaking a century ago to a group of anarchists about how to overthrow the czar, reminded his listeners that it was not their job to save a dying system but to replace it: “We think we are the doctors. We are the disease.”

We are here not to reform the system. We are here to overthrow it. And that is the only possibility left to restore our democracy and save our planet. If we fail in this task, if this system of corporate capitalism and globalization is not dismantled, we are doomed. And this is the reality no one wants to speak about.

David J Stewart #fundie #psycho #crackpot jesus-is-savior.com

HELL

Dr. W. Herschel Ford, 1969

Luke 16:19-31

We have come to a time when few people believe in a literal Hell. Yet it is still in the Bible, and it is still true because the Word of God is true. Men change their ideas but God's truth is always the same. The great Eternal God tells us that there is an eternal Hell for all those who reject Christ and live without God. Preaching on hell has diminished. We hear many light, fluffy sermons about peace, goodness, brotherhood, and the social gospel, but some congregations never hear hell even mentioned.

When Dr. Ramsay Pollard was pastor of the Broadway Baptist Church in Knoxville, one of his young people brought a boy from an Episcopal home to church one night. When the boy reached home after the service, his father asked him how he liked the sermon. "I liked it pretty good," said the boy, "but the preacher used a bad word right there in the pulpit. He used the word 'hell' over and over again." That boy had never heard the word used except in a bad sense. Yes, preaching about hell has cooled off, but hell is as hot as ever. The Bible that tells us of a wonderful heaven also tells us of an awful hell. God created hell just as sure as he created heaven. One is just as real, just as necessary, just as lasting as the other.

Reasons for Preaching on Hell

1. We must preach on hell because it's in the Bible. Do you want you preacher to preach his own ideas or the Word of God. You will reply, "Let him preach God's Word." Therefore he must preach the whole counsel of God. He must preach about heaven and delight in it. He must preach about hell even though he dislikes to do so. The preacher has not been called to tell what he believes, or what his church thinks, or what someone writes in a magazine. He must preach what God says. We know what God says is true. We know that there is a hell. We know that we must warn men to escape the "wrath to come".

So, let today's preacher preach on hell. But let him preach it in love. A great teacher once said, "Young men, you should preach on hell but let it be with a broken heart and tears in your eyes." We must tell men about the everlasting home of the doomed, but we must [sorrow?] over those who are condemned. And we must tell them of a loving Saviour whose death makes it possible for them to avoid hell.

2. We must preach on hell to awaken Christians. People all around us are going to hell. They are getting closer to the flames everyday. But we are asleep; we dont' realize what peril they are in. It may be someone very near and dear to you. If I can get you to see their lost condition and how hell is waiting for them, maybe you'll start praying and working for their salvation.

General Booth of the Salvation Army was speaking to a graduating class in the Army's training school. These young people had been there several years, learning how to work for God and win souls. The general said, "Young men, if I could have had my way, I would never have had you here for these years of training. But I would have put you in hell for 24 hours. I would have allowed you to feel the pains and pangs of the damned, to hear the weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth. I would have caused you to see how they suffer forever. Then I would have sent you out into the world to warn men to flee from the wrath to come." General Booth was right. If we really knew what hell was like, nothing could stop us from urging men to come to Christ. So we must preach on hell, hoping that people will get concerned for their friends and loved ones who are going there.

3. We must preach on hell to warn sinners. It's an awful thing to remember that you could be in hell in another minute. No doctor can guarantee you of even one minute of life. David said, "there is but a step between me and death." (I Sam. 20:3) I have looked out into my congregation and seen someone in good health, well and strong, and before another Sunday they had gone to be with the Lord. It could happen to you; it could happen to me. What if you are not ready? What if Christ is not your Saviour? This means that you would be doomed forever.

Some people had no use for the Gospel. They hated preachers and laughed at Bible truth. Now they are in hell. Let's talk to one of them for a minute.

"Did you intend to come to hell?"

"No," he answers, "I meant all along to become a Christian and get ready for death. But I waited too long. Death slipped up on me and the next thing I knew I was in hell."

"Were you a wicked man? Were you a drunkard, or a thief, or a murderer or adulterer?"

"Oh no," he answers, "I lived a pretty good life, but I left out the main thing. I left Christ out of my life."

So today we have to preach on hell to warn men. Look all around you, lost sinner. People are dying every day. Your hour is coming. I want you to realize the seriousness of it and come to Christ. This is the only way you can escape hell.

The Certainty of Hell

Today many learned men deny the existence of hell. We have come to a time when we talk glibly about the brotherhood of man and the fatherhood of God. We imply that everybody loves everybody else and that all men are saved. We think of God as a great big beneficient Santa Claus, smiling down upon all. But God is not the father of all. He is the Creator of all, but not the Father of all. He becomes our father only when we come to Christ. Jesus said in John 8:44, "Ye are of your father the devil...." He was thinking of lost people. John 1:12 tells us that "as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God....." These are the ones who can claim God as Father. They are saved, and they'll never go to hell. But remember this, you are not a child of God until you come unto Him through faith in His Son, Jesus Christ.

A preacher preached a sermon on hell and a woman asked him if he had any children. He replied that he did. "Do you love them?" she asked. "Oh yes," the preacher answered. "Well," the woman said, "what would you think of a father who could save his children from suffering and refused to do it?" "I would say that he was a tyrant and a monster," the preacher said. "That's what you're making God out to be. God would be a monster if He sent his children to hell instead of delivering them by his power." "But lady," the preacher responded, "you're making one mistake. God doesn't have any children in hell and he never will have. The people in hell are the devil's children. All of God's children are in heaven or on the way there. God has a home for His children and the devil has a home for his."

He was right. God is the Father only of those who believe in Jesus Christ....who have been born again. Too many people are presuming on the goodness of God as an excuse for sin. They say, "Let us live as we please. God is too good to punish us." One day they are going to have a rude awakening.

The Bible, God's inerrant Word, tell us that there is both a heaven and a hell. If we receive one and reject the other, we are reflecting upon the truth of God's Word. But we are not left to depend upon the opinions and speculations of men. We must rest upon the infallible truth of the infallible Bible.

You may deny the fact of hell, but that does not change the fact that it exists. Fire burns, whether you choose to believe that it does or not...poison kills, whether you believe it will or not. The world is round, whether you believe it or not....and hell is a reality whether you believe it or not. And if you reject the offer Christ is making today, you will go to hell, whether you believe you will or not.

Now listen to Jesus. He knew the truth about hell. He said that a certain rich man died and went down to hell, and was in torment. He said that the man cried out, "I am tormented in these flames." He said that the man was anxious for his brothers to repent, so that they would not come to that "place of torment."

If a man breaks the laws of the land, what else is there to do but punish him? He is put in prison or sentenced to death. And if men rebel and sin against God and trample his son under foot, what else is God to do but put them in the prison called Hell? Man must exact his penalty for a broken law and so must God.

Suppose that a train carrying 500 passengers was coming down the track and that you and I were 20 miles ahead of the train. And suppose that we found that a trestle over a mighty river had fallen in. As I think of the train approaching, I say, "I must warn them and save their lives." But you say, "I wouldn 't do that, it might scare the passengers. Some of them would faint. Be nice to them and don't disturb them." And the train rushes on to tragedy and the passengers are killed.

Have I done the right thing? Have I been prompted by love? No. If I loved people, I would warn them. And if I love lost souls, I must hold up my Bible and say, "This is God's Word. It tells us that there is a hell for those who reject Christ. Come to him and be saved from such an awful fate."

So I say to you, not out of my own wisdom but on the strength of God's Word, that there is a hell as surely as there is a heaven. And men who reject Christ go to hell as surely as those who accept him go to heaven.

The Bible's Description of Hell

Look for a minute at the biblical expression which describe hell. It is called a Lake of Fire - a bottomless pit - a horrible tempest - a devouring fire - a place of sorrows - a place of weeping and wailing - a place of torments - everlasting destruction - a place of outer darkness - a place where men have no rest - a place where men are tormented with fire and brimstone - a place where the fire is not quenched.

1. It is a place of separation from God. We couldn't exist here a second if we were cut off from God. But think of being in hell, cut off from Him forever. We can pray here; we can call on His name. But prayers will not help in hell, for men will be forever separated from God.

2. It is a place of unsatisfied desires. When we have desires here, we can usually satisfy them in some measure. If a man desires money, there are many ways to get it. If he wants liquor, he can get it. If he wants to satisfy his fleshly nature, he can do it. But in hell, he will be burning up with these desires, and there will be no way to satisfy them. The rich man in hell wanted water, but there was no way to get it. So man, with all of this cravings, will suffer in hell with unsatisfied desires.

3. It is a place of vilest companionship. The worst people, the meanest, cruelest, filthiest people will be there. Let me tell you something that will add to the horrors of hell for some people. They live clean lives, they are cultured and refined, they are good citizens, they are nice to their family and friends. But they reject Jesus Christ. One day they will be cast into hell, to live the rest of eternity with liars, adulterers, murderers, drunkards, homosexuals, and the vilest of creatures. This will be an awful thing for them and will last forever. They can never die and leave these people, and they can't get up and move away.

4. It is a place of hopelessness. Hope is the mainspring that keeps us going down here. When we are sick, we hope to get well. When we are poor, we hope things will get better. When we are unhappy, we hope soon to find happiness. When we have an unpleasant job, we hope to get a better one. But there is no hope in hell. There you just suffer and live in hopeless despair. Over the doors of an ancient prison were these words: "Abandon hope all ye that enter herein." That is nothing compared to hell. There is not one second of hope there. When you are cast into hell, it is forever.

5. It is a place of suffering. I don't think I need to dwell on that. Every Bible description of hell denotes suffering - intense, everlasting suffering. I know a woman who is now suffering greatly. She knows she is going to die soon, so she says, "It will soon be over." No one can ever say that in hell. There suffering there never ends.

6. It is a place of memory. When men are haunted by a bitter memory here, they can commit suicide. But you can't do that in hell; you must live on; you must remember. Your memory will be like 10,000 mirrors around you, recalling all the sins and follies of your life. You will remember how you sold your eternal soul for the pleasures of this world. You will remember every sermon and every song you ever heard, every invitation to salvation, every wooing of the Holy Spirit. You will remember how your mother prayed for you and your friends and family sought to win you to Christ. You will remember how you held back from any decision for Christ. As you remember all these things, this memory will be hell in itself. Oh, to be shut up in hell with memory always fresh.

You will remember that instead of suffering in hell, you could have been enjoying the happiness and bliss of heaven. You will remember the easy terms upon which you could have been saved. If it had been impossible for you to repent and trust Christ, this would have made the agony easier. But you will remember that you could have had eternal life for the asking, and you turned it down. You will remember how cheaply you sold out to Satan, and how you exchanged the joys of heaven for the sorrows of hell.

On this earth you sometimes blame Christians for your own sins. You say that they are a bunch of hypocrites. Then you turn your back on God and continue in your sin. You blame everybody else for you unsaved condition while you're here, but in hell you'll remember that you're the guilty one. Remember now that the issue is between you and God and no one else. You must account to Him for yourself and not for the hypocrites. It will be no one's fault but your own if you deliberately seal your own doom.

It isn't easy to go to hell. Before you get there you must climb over the church, the Bible, gospel sermons, your conscience, your better judgment, the Holy Spirit, and all the providences of God. Then finally you must climb over Calvary and trample Jesus Christ under foot. In hell, you'll remember that you did all of this.

When Does Hell Begin?

It begins at the end of a Christless life. If you go through life without Christ, your soul enters into conscious suffering when you die. I am not saying that you enter into the full measure of suffering at that time. This must wait until all the records are in. Then at the Great White Throne judgment, all the sinner's works will be judged, and the degree of punishment will be determined. Oh, man without Christ, you don't know how close you are to hell. It may be that before midnight your heart will stop beating and you'll go out to begin an eternity of suffering and anguish.

What do you have to look forward to if Christ is not your Saviour? At best, you have only a few more years in this world with its pleasures, its troubles and sorrows. Then comes a death without hope and nothing beyond but everlasting doom. How different is the outlook of a Christian! Just a little while longer here, then the door opens and he enters into the joy of his Lord and a glorious heaven. Oh, friend, what folly to go on without Christ and miss heaven.

How Can We Escape Hell?

You can never escape it through the good works of the flesh. You may do many things to gain the favor of God. You may join a church, be baptized, give your money, help people, live a good life. But these things will not save you. Salvation is an inner thing, a thing of the heart. The Bible plainly tells us that if we believe on Jesus Christ, the doors of hell will be forever closed to us.

You were condemned to die. But God's son could not be satisfied to see you die and go down to hell. He said, "Father, I'll pay the price for him. I'll suffer the pangs of death in his place. I'll satisfy the demands of the law on him." So he went to the cross and paid in full the measure for all of our sins. Now if we accept that payment, our sins are forgiven, we are saved, we become the children of God and heirs of heaven.

Your sins may have been as black as the pit, or you may have lived a good moral life. It doesn't matter - there is mercy for you with the Lord. He was bruised for your iniquities and wounded for your transgressions. He stands today with open arms saying, “Come unto me and I will give you rest.”

END

Mark Johansen #fundie creation.com

Is evolution pseudoscience?

The Skeptic’s Dictionary contains an entry on ‘pseudoscience’ that includes ten characteristic fallacies of pseudoscientific theories. The list’s compiler clearly did not have evolution in mind, as the very first group the article identifies as pseudoscientific is ‘creationists’. Ironically, evolution has almost every characteristic on this list. Let’s look at how evolution exhibits the fallacies listed by these self-proclaimed skeptics, with just one example of each.

1. Some pseudoscientific theories are based upon an authoritative text rather than observation or empirical investigation.

In almost every debate about origins, the first argument given by the evolutionists is an appeal to authority. The National Academy of Sciences flatly asserts, ‘While the mechanisms of evolution are still under investigation, scientists universally accept that the cosmos, our planet, and life evolved and continue to evolve.’ [our emphasis]

We are supposed to respect these scientists because science has proven so powerful. But the people who preach evolution didn’t discover gravity or pasteurization or semiconductors. They just call themselves by the same name, ‘scientist’.

2. Some pseudoscientific theories explain what non-believers cannot even observe.

The web site of the US Department of Energy admits that no one has observed evolution happen in nature or the laboratory, but explains, ‘As for the fact that we haven’t made evolving life in the laboratory yet, I think that you’re expecting too much of your species. Let’s say, as a first guess, that it took blind Nature a billion years to make evolving life on earth. … How much faster do you want us to go? Even if you give us an advantage of a factor of a MILLION in speed, it would still take us a thousand years to catch up … ’.

So it is totally unrealistic to expect to actually observe evolution, even under artificially accelerated conditions.

Richard Dawkins, Professor of Zoology, Oxford University, said, ‘Evolution has been observed. It’s just that it has not been observed while it’s happening.’

3. Some can’t be tested because they are consistent with every imaginable state of affairs in the empirical world.

The next is essentially the same:

4. … [or] are so vague and malleable that anything relevant can be shoehorned to fit the theory.

Evolutionists are always ready with a story to explain any observed trait of a species. Why do some birds, like peacocks and birds of paradise, have beautiful and elaborate tails? Evolutionists explain, ‘If a peacock can … find food and evade predators while dragging around a bigger and more conspicuous tail than his rivals do’ this demonstrates that he is particularly strong and capable, and thus makes a better mate. So evolution selects females that prefer males with the most elaborate tails.

But the same article also says, ‘it’s hard to figure what possible advantage these eye-catching but burdensome appendages offer … in the grim business of survival.’ If peacocks had small, streamlined tails, evolutionist would surely be explaining that an efficient tail gives an advantage in the struggle for survival (in escaping from predators, for example).

Evolution is just as good at ‘predicting’ things that never happened as it is at predicting things that actually did happen. A theory that can explain anything, predicts nothing and proves nothing.

5. Some theories have been empirically tested and rather than being confirmed they seem either to have been falsified or to require numerous ad hoc hypotheses to sustain them.

Evolutionists are forced to admit that the fossil evidence for their theory is slim to non-existent. For example, almost all major groups of creatures appear in the fossil record with no evolutionary past. ‘Something quite bizarre happened at the end of the Precambrian Era. Rocks from that time show evidence of an astounding variety of multicelled and hard-shelled life forms that seemingly appeared all at once. Scientists have long pondered the causes of this sudden appearance of new life forms, known as the Cambrian explosion.’

So the evolutionists offer ad hoc hypotheses to explain the lack of evidence. One popular theory is ‘punctuated equilibrium’, which says that sometimes evolution happens so fast that there are too few ‘intermediate’ generations for any to have much chance of being fossilized.

We cannot see evolution happening today because it goes so slowly, and we cannot see evidence of it in the past because it happened too quickly!

6. Some pseudoscientific theories rely on ancient myths and legends…

Okay, one that doesn’t particularly describe evolution, although evolutionary notions can be traced back to ancient pagan Greek philosophers such as Empedocles (c. 490–430 BC)

7. Some pseudoscientific theories are supported mainly by selective use of anecdotes, intuition, and examples of confirming instances.

Evolutionists try to find animals that fit into their ‘evolutionary tree’. In the classic ‘horse story’, they arrange a group of animals with similar body shapes in order by size and say it shows the evolution of the horse. But is this actual ancestry or just a contrived arrangement? Except for the supposed ‘first horse’, which it probably isn’t, far from being an example of evolution, the fossils show the wide variation within a created kind. As the biologist Heribert-Nilsson said, ‘The family tree of the horse is beautiful and continuous only in the textbooks’.

Most of the creatures that would have had to exist if evolution were true have never been found, and some creatures have been found that don’t fit in the evolutionary tree at all, like the platypus. But evolutionists seize on a few creatures that sort of look like they might be halfway between a badger and a horse, or between a reptile and a bird. These rare apparent fits ‘prove’ evolution as much as occasional good guesses by a psychic ‘prove’ that he can read your mind.

8. Some pseudoscientific theories confuse metaphysical claims with empirical claims.

Some evolutionists insist that evolution has no metaphysical implications. ‘Evolution does not have moral consequences, and does not make cosmic purpose impossible.’

But others make dogmatic metaphysical applications. The American Academy for the Advancement of Science website includes a whole section on ‘Science, Ethics, and Religion’, with statements like, ‘Evolution is the creation myth of our age. By telling us our origins it shapes our views of what we are. … In calling it a myth I am not saying that it is a false story. I mean that it has great symbolic power, which is independent of its truth. Is the word religion appropriate to it? This depends on the sense in which we understand that very elastic word. I have chosen it deliberately.’

Richard Dawkins said that ‘Darwin made it possible to be an intellectually fulfilled atheist’.

9. Some pseudoscientific theories … contradict known scientific laws and use ad hoc hypotheses to explain their belief.

A pro-evolution web site states, ‘Until the 19th century, it was commonly believed that life frequently arose from non-life under certain circumstances, a process known as “spontaneous generation”. This belief was due to the common observation that maggots or mould appeared to arise spontaneously when organic matter was left exposed. It was later discovered that under all these circumstances commonly observed, life only arises from life. … No life has ever been observed to arise from dead matter.’

But evolutionists dismiss the fact that their theory requires the violation of this well-established law of science. ‘Did [Pasteur] prove that no life can ever come from non-living things? No, he didn’t, and this is because you cannot disprove something like that experimentally … ’.

The fact that all the experimental evidence of the past 200 years contradicts their theory is irrelevant, because they speculate that it’s possible that there is some experiment that no one has yet tried where it might work.

10. Pseudoscientists claim to base their theories on empirical evidence, and they may even use some scientific methods, though often their understanding of a controlled experiment is inadequate.

Evolutionists claim that their theory is science, but the National Center for Science Education, which is an anti-creationist lobbying group, admits that there’s a problem: ‘The failure of many students to understand and accept the fact of evolution is often a consequence of the naïve views they hold of the nature of science … . According to this naïve view, the key to the unique success of science at producing true knowledge is “The Scientific Method”, which, on the standard account, involves formulating hypotheses, making predictions, and then going into the laboratory to perform the crucial experiment. … In contrast, the work of many evolutionary biologists involves the reconstruction of the past. The methods they use do not conform to the standard view of “The Scientific Method”.’

So if you can’t actually prove your theory using the scientific method, which actually uses controlled experiment, as distinct from plausible story telling, simply declare that only ‘naïve’ people think that the scientific method has anything to do with ‘science’.

Thus, of the ten characteristics of pseudoscience listed in the Skeptic’s Dictionary, evolution meets nine. Few other pseudosciences—astrology, astral projection, alien abduction, crystal power, or whatever—would meet so many.

David J. Stewart #fundie jesusisprecious.org

In 2013 and 2014, I attended Harvest Baptist Church on Guam with the sincerest of hearts. Humbly, you won't find a man with a purer heart, by God's grace. Truth matters! Unfortunately, I learned the hard way that the pastors and staff at Harvest are merely running a business, and truth is secondary! I went into a spiritual depression after being compelled out of their church in late 2014, for simply telling THE TRUTH. I cried all the way home from the church, after their pastors rebuked me for telling THE TRUTH. One of their pastors in 2015 sinfully mocked me, saying, “How's your beliefs working out for your social life?” Well, due to my chronic neck pain for the past 15 years, I've since had no social life after Harvest rejected me, and God will judge between me and them. All I wanted was to honor the Lord by helping others find THE TRUTH. God knows my heart and sincerity in the matter. I wasn't hurting anybody. I didn't stop to think that I was going against their pastor's apostate teachings. I simply was being myself. I am a truth-teller. Telling me to stop telling the truth is like telling a bird not to sing, or a fish not to swim, or a cat not to meow! Jesus said in Luke 6:45, “A good man out of the good treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is good; and an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is evil: for of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaketh.” Harvest's pastors are evil men, because their mouths speak evil things. Evil won't tolerate truth!

Gregg Prescott #conspiracy in5d.com

Was Jesus An Extraterrestrial Or Possibly An Annunaki Hybrid?

The Jesus Anunnaki Connection

Is it possible that Jesus was an Anunnaki hybrid? From what we’ve seen over and over again, the truth is always hidden under a pile of lies and is twisted and turned upside down until what little truth remains is so obscured that we don’t know what to believe any more

Jesus and The Council of Nicea

From my studies of theology, I have learned that the figure known as Jesus was created by the Council of Nicea in the year 325 AD as a way to bring together all of the Yeshua ben Yosef cults via Emperor Constantine. The council added the supernatural abilities of Mithra, Horus, and Osiris to the Jesus entity they created and from that point forward, Christianity was created. You can read more about how this came to fruition here.

Astrotheology

The bible has missing chapters such as the Book of Enoch, The Book of Jubilees, the Book of Numbers and the Book of The Wars of Jehovah, so one must question why any books would be eliminated and why. What we know through these missing books is that Jehovah (El Shaddai and eventually called, YHWH) was known as “Lord” and was a god of vengeance and wrath. Is it possible that when Jesus replaced Jehovah that people are unknowingly worshiping the same god of vengeance and wrath?

What is known about the bible is how it was written in perfect, reverse astrotheological order as we move through the precession of the equinoxes, which explains the reverse order of the astrological signs.

For example, when the Israelites idolized the Golden Calf when Moses went to the mountains, it symbolized the Age of Taurus. When Moses blew on the ram’s horn, it symbolized the Age of Aries. When Jesus fed the masses with two fish, it symbolized the Age of Pisces. When Jesus said to follow the man bearing the pitcher of water, it symbolized the Age of Aquarius. If nothing else, the bible teaches us about how astrotheology was used to control the masses because the bible’s timeline brings us to an artificial “end time” right now, which is why we’re seeing those in power trying to evoke the “Revelation” chapters when we could be living in a world of peace and harmony instead of chaos.

The Anunnaki timetable

What if the bible is an encrypted timetable for the return of our galactic family? Is it possible that the ruling elite know this and are trying to create the end times to prevent humanity from ascending in order to harvest our energy for their own, archontic reasons while keeping us living in fear as economic slaves to a broken system of fiat currency? Perhaps these times will bring us the return of the Anunnaki, the creator gods?

It’s interesting that in Genesis 1:26 (Genesis = The Genes of Isis), it says, “Let US make man in OUR own image“. The “US” are the Elohim, who were the creator gods in the bible, but is it possible that they are the Anunnaki as well?

Secret society influences

What we do know is that name “Jesus” never existed at the time of his alleged birth because the letter “J” wasn’t invented until the 1500’s. This also means there was no official John, Job, Jacob, Jeremiah, Jude, Joseph, etc… The King James version of the bible wasn’t written until the year 1611 and was edited by Rosicrucian and Free Mason, Sir Francis Bacon. With ties to secret societies, is it possible that the truth was twisted and/or encrypted? What we do know is that there is a Christian bible on the main floor of any Freemason lodge, but when you get to the 33rd degree of freemasonry, the Luciferian Doctrine is followed by those who have been initiated into this level. Additionally, the 33rd degree mason motto is “Ordo ab chao” which means “Order out of chaos”.

You can do all these things and more

According to the work of Gregg Braden, we only have 22 of the 64 codons in our DNA turned on. Imagine what we might be capable of doing if all of our codons were activated? Perhaps this is what is meant when Jesus said that you can do all these things and more? John 14:12, KJV: “Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.”

Is it possible that our DNA is about to fully activate after being genetically manipulated by the Anunnaki? Is this something we can do for ourselves?

I’ve been experimenting on myself by trying to find ways to activate these codons and fully activating my DNA in humanity’s best interests. You can read more about my experiment in the article, “How Can We Change Our DNA Right Now?”

Is Jesus the same as the Maya’s Kulkulkan and the Aztec’s Quetzalcoatl?

It seems many things that are in humanity’s best interests are suppressed. Look no further than Stanley Meyer’s invention of a water powered car that could go from coast to coast in the United States on 22 gallons of water. He was offered $1 billion by the automotive industry but turned it down because he wanted this invention to go out to the people. Shortly afterwards, he was poisoned to death.

There was a blonde hair, blue eyed man by the name of Kulkulkan who visited the Maya and taught them about astronomy, agriculture, medicine, and mathematics. It is believed that he came from the Pleiades to help the Maya civilization and promised to return at some future date. The same entity is described as Quetzalcoatl by the Aztecs.

Could this story be the same as the story of Jesus? Is it possible that Jesus was an extraterrestrial from a neighboring planet or star system?

We know very little about Jesus from the time of his birth until his 30’s. If the star of Bethlehem was a UFO, then is it possible that Jesus went back to his mothership to prepare himself for the teachings he would give to the masses until the time of his alleged death?

As Michael Tellinger points out, the most compelling argument against the mythological gods theory is that roughly 9,000 years BC prior to the appearance of Sumer, the Mayan civilization suddenly emerged and astoundingly showed the same predilections towards agriculture, planting, harvesting, social organization, trade and commerce as Sumeria, all attributable to the teachings of the gods. It is possible, even likely, that more than one ET group or groups have left their mark on earth.

In this writer’s opinion, the story of Jesus was created by the church as a means of subservience, control, and conformity to religion and government. While it’s definitely possible that an entity with supernatural abilities existed, he was most likely an extraterrestrial or possibly an Anunnaki hybrid.

Got Questions Ministries #fundie gotquestions.org

Question: "What is the right religion for me?"

Answer: Fast food restaurants entice us by allowing us to order our food exactly the way we want it. Some coffee shops boast over a hundred different flavors and varieties of coffee. Even when buying houses and cars, we can look for one with all the options and features we desire. We no longer live in just a chocolate, vanilla, and strawberry world. Choice is king! You can find about anything you want according to your own personal likes and needs.

So how about a religion that is just right for you? How about a religion that is guilt-free, makes no demands, and is not encumbered with a lot of bothersome do's and don'ts? It is out there, just as I have described. But is religion something to be chosen like a favorite flavor of ice cream?

There are a lot of voices vying for our attention, so why should anyone consider Jesus above, say, Muhammad or Confucius, Buddha, or Charles Taze Russell, or Joseph Smith? After all, don't all roads lead to Heaven? Aren't all religions basically the same? The truth is that all religions do not lead to Heaven, just as all roads do not lead to Indiana.

Jesus alone speaks with the authority of God because Jesus alone conquered death. Muhammad, Confucius, and the others molder in their graves to this very day. But Jesus, by His own power, walked away from the tomb three days after dying on a cruel Roman cross. Anyone with power over death deserves our attention. Anyone with power over death deserves to be heard.

The evidence supporting the resurrection of Jesus is overwhelming. First, there were over five hundred eye witnesses of the risen Christ! That is a lot of eye witnesses. Five hundred voices cannot be ignored. There is also the matter of the empty tomb. The enemies of Jesus could have easily stopped all talk of the resurrection by producing His dead, decaying body, but there was no dead body for them to produce! The tomb was empty! Could the disciples have stolen His body? Hardly. To prevent such a contingency, the tomb of Jesus had been heavily guarded by armed soldiers. Considering His closest followers had fled in fear at His arrest and crucifixion, it is most unlikely this ragtag band of frightened fishermen would have gone head to head against trained, professional soldiers. Nor would they have sacrificed their lives and become martyrs—as most of them did—for a fraud. The simple fact is that the resurrection of Jesus cannot be explained away!

Again, anyone who has power over death deserves to be heard. Jesus proved His power over death; therefore, we need to hear what He says. Jesus claims to be the only way to salvation (John 14:6). He is not a way; He is not one of many ways. Jesus is the way.

And this same Jesus says, "Come to me all you who labor and are heavily burdened, and I will give you rest" (Matthew 11:28). This is a tough world and life is difficult. Most of us are pretty well bloodied, bruised, and battle-scarred. Agree? So what do you want? Restoration or mere religion? A living Savior or one of many dead "prophets"? A meaningful relationship or empty rituals? Jesus is not a choice—He is the choice!

Jesus is the right "religion" if you are looking for forgiveness (Acts 10:43). Jesus is the right "religion" if you are looking for a meaningful relationship with God (John 10:10). Jesus is the right "religion" if you are looking for an eternal home in Heaven (John 3:16). Place your faith in Jesus Christ as your Savior; you will not regret it! Trust in Him for the forgiveness of your sins; you will not be disappointed.

If you want to have a "right relationship" with God, here is a sample prayer. Remember, saying this prayer or any other prayer will not save you. It is only trusting in Christ that can save you from sin. This prayer is simply a way to express to God your faith in Him and thank Him for providing for your salvation. "God, I know that I have sinned against you and am deserving of punishment. But Jesus Christ took the punishment that I deserve so that through faith in Him I could be forgiven. I place my trust in You for salvation. Thank You for Your wonderful grace and forgiveness - the gift of eternal life! Amen!"

Have you made a decision for Christ because of what you have read here? If so, please click on the "I have accepted Christ today" button below.

William Rees-Mogg #fundie timesonline.co.uk

The modernist attack on religion was based on the victory of science, and particularly of neo-Darwinism. Yet science was open to the same challenge as religion; it could explain only half the world. The scientists, or some of them, sneered at religion for being unable to explain the developments of nature. Yet science itself was unable to produce a science-based morality for society. Marxism attempted to create a scientific social order that ended in monstrous and bloodthirsty tyranny. Social Darwinism either meant eugenics and the slaughter of babies who were not thought fit to survive, or it meant nothing. The Social Darwinism of George Bernard Shaw, or indeed that of Adolf Hitler, has been rejected by mankind.

Bryan Fischer #fundie barbwire.com

[On the Southern Poverty Law Center classifying the Family Research Council and American Family Association as hate groups:]

The plain truth is that we at the FRC and AFA don't hate a living soul. We love homosexuals enough to tell them the truth about the physical and spiritual dangers of the homosexual lifestyle. We want something better for them than the darkness and disease associated with homosexual behavior. We want them to come out of the darkness into the light of the gospel of Christ. We are for the homosexual and so must be against the normalization and promotion of homosexuality.

Note the SPLC is no longer accusing FRC and AFA of hate or violence based on some objective standard. They have simply made a purely subjective assessment that our beliefs about human sexuality and our defense of natural marriage are so offensive to them that we must become the target of the unlimited resources of the federal government.

Do we disagree with the homosexual lobby about homosexuality? Of course. Do we hate them? Absolutely not. Do we advocate violence against them? Never have, never will. We are simply determined to tell the moral, spiritual and physical truth about nonnormative sexual behavior.

Bottom line: disagreement is not hatred, and the truth is not hate speech.

Call To Repent #fundie twitter.com

The "science religion" says it is not a religion but:

seminaries - universities
priests - scientists
dogma - "science is not religion"
creation story - big bang
#Bible - Darwin's Origin of Species
#Jesus - evolution
collection plate - grant writing

Not religion? Really?

Jeol #fundie armorgames.com

Evolution is not a part of science, even though many scientists and people like that happen to be scientists. It's sort of like a religion. Christianity is not a science, but it tells pretty much the same thing as Evolution. Different stories, same topic. Science and religion should not be made equal.

Zahra Khaled #fundie youtube.com

i know that u could find what i am saying is strange to come from a 13 years old girl but if u really belive in god u will know that this is just a silly thing that they want to use so they prove that there is no god and if u really believe in god uwould know that when he created adam he didn't create it like a monkey?

[[The Bible is not a science textbook. It was written thousands of years before modern science was around, so there is no reason why the stories within should tell us about modern science, which is why the stories get many facts about science wrong.]]

u may think like that but when u really beleive in god u don't think about this things and even i don't i don't accept that at the beginning i was a monkey and just try to usee both darwin's and the answers on his words maby u could change ur mind

David J. Stewart #fundie jesus-is-savior.com

Hinduism is one of the Devil's religions! I say that kindly, but truthfully, because I care about you and don't want anyone to go to Hell when they die. The Holy Scriptures given through Israel have been proven accurate by historians, archaeologists, scientists, astronomers, and experts from nearly every field. Only a fool would ignore such overwhelming conclusive evidence of a divine Creator, God and Savior!

A demon's favorite activity is to make people feel comfortable in their religion, without ever being born-again by faith in Christ Jesus. And may I say, that includes every religion. No religion can take a person to Heaven. We are not saved by following a religion; but rather, by believing on the Lord Jesus Christ! According to John 3:3 (our text verse above) in the Holy Bible, God's inspired Words, a man must be born-again if he is to enter into the Kingdom of God. Clearly, as you will see, the false religion of Hinduism does NOT recognize the concept of being born-again in Christ Jesus. In fact, Hindus reject Jesus as being the Christ, the Savior of the world. Thus, Hinduism is diametrically opposed and incompatible with Bible Christianity. I say this, not to be unkind, but truthful.

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Biblically, Hindus are idolaters, because they worship a host of gods other than the true and living God of Israel (not the present-day Illuminati-controlled state of Israel, but true Old Testament Israel and Jehovah).  As you will discover in the following information from the New World Encyclopedia, Hindus worship umpteen different gods, none of them of which died on the cross for their sins as did Jesus Christ . . .

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In sharp contrast to what Hinduism falsely teaches, the Holy Bible tells us that there is only One God, and He is the Savior . . .

The Holy Bible teaches in Isaiah 43:11, “I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.”

And again we read in Isaiah 44:6, “Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.”

Isaiah 44:8, “Fear ye not, neither be afraid: have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it? ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any.”

Isaiah 45:5, “I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me: That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside me. I am the LORD, and there is none else.”

Isaiah 45:21-22, “Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time? who hath told it from that time? have not I the LORD? and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside me.  Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else.”

Hinduism is Satanic, because Satan uses such false religions to blind the minds of men (2nd Corinthians 4:4), to hinder them from seeing the simplicity that is in Christ (2nd Corinthians 11:3-4), so that they might be saved (Romans 1:16).

My intent is not to be unkind, but the reality is that the entire culture of India has gone down a path of apostasy and false religion. Instead of worshipping the God of Israel Who spoke the universe into existence by His omnipotent power, wisdom and words, they succumb to worshipping four-footed beasts. Here is one of my favorite Bible verses from Leviticus 11:3, “Whatsoever parteth the hoof, and is clovenfooted, and cheweth the cud, among the beasts, that shall ye eat.” I like my steaks medium-rare! Amen! If Hindus want to stick a straw up Bessie the cow's vagina for a refreshing summer's drink, knock yourself out; but I'm having ribeye steak and a Coca-Cola for dinner! Needless to say, I won't be converting to Hinduism. Kindly, if you're involved in that satanic mess in Hinduism, please repent and believe the Gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ before it's too late. Life is short, eternity is forever!

David J. Stewart #fundie jesus-is-lord.com

(Submitter’s note: I edited out a lot of the clubber texts to shorten the guys rant)

A gentleman kindly submitted me a copy of a letter that Paul Harvey read on his radio newscast. It is entitled, "An Open Letter from God" a.k.a. "A Letter from God". I read it with rapt interest for many people had been looking for a copy of it. It is a blasphemy and heresy.
I was stunned by the universalist viewpoint of this letter. Believe me, the true God did not write it. A god of the writer's imagination did. Let's take a SCRIPTURAL look at "A Letter from God" read by Paul Harvey (if you want to read the actual letter read by Paul Harvey go here). In the following commentary, Mr. Harvey's comments are in red...

(Aside: I was recently made aware that "A Letter from God" was a letter anonymously submitted to Mr. Harvey. When I wrote the article that you are about to read, I wasn't sure if Paul Harvey wrote the letter or if one of his listeners did. It didn't make much difference either way because by reading it on his program, it seems that Mr. Harvey put his endorsement to it.)

Paul Harvey says everybody is a child of God.

"My Dear Children...believe me, that is all of you."

Everybody is a creature of God, but not everybody is a child of God. Jesus said that the Devil is the father of those who do not belong to Him:
Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
--Jesus Christ, John 8:44

The only way to become a child of God is to be adopted by faith in the blood of Jesus Christ. There is NO OTHER WAY:

Paul Harvey says God used evolution in creation.
"I consider myself a pretty patient guy. I mean, look at the Grand Canyon. It took millions of years to get it right. And about evolution-- boy, nothing is slower than designing that whole Darwinian thing to take place cell by cell and gene by gene."

The Bible says that God created the universe and everything in it in six literal days:
...in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed.
Exodus 31:17
God made man from the dust of the earth (Genesis 2:7), even the Periodic Table shows that. Those who believe the Bible already know that the theory of evolution is a lie. Even a cursory examination of their flimsy "evidence" reveals evolution to be a fairy tale.

Paul Harvey says God didn't author the Bible and you can't trust it.
As you will see below, he calls the books of all religions "bibles." The only "religion" with a book called the "Bible" is the Christian religion. Within the CHRISTIAN religion (NOT the Roman Catholic religion), The Authorized Version of the Bible conformable to the edition of 1611 is the authorized version of the Bible--AND YES YOU ******CAN******** TRUST IT--MORE THAN YOUR TWO EYES !!!!!!!!!!!!! The apostles did not follow cunningly devised fables--they were eyewitnesses of the majesty of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ--



Many people are following the false teachers. They are denying the Lord Jesus Christ today. His blood is the only thing that will save the sinner. All have sinned and come short of the glory of God. We need forgiveness of our sins. To be forgiven we must believe in the death, burial and resurrection of the Lord Jesus Christ. The reader may wish to see our article entitled, How to Get to Heaven. Men today are blaspheming the name of the Lord Jesus. They are denying him, and they are choosing evil spirits, and idols and images and yoga and meditation and are heading toward hell. And they are speaking evil of the Bible, the word of God.

2 Peter 2:2 AND MANY SHALL FOLLOW THEIR PERNICIOUS WAYS; BY REASON OF WHOM THE WAY OF TRUTH SHALL BE EVIL SPOKEN OF.
Time is winding up and many people are believing the lies and blasphemies of the false teachers--that includes the multitude of fake Christian groups and fake churches.
"Every one of your religions claims... that it's bible was written personally by me, that all the other bibles are man made. Oh, me! How do I ever begin to put a stop to such utter nonsense...I hate to break it to you, but I don't write...so all of your books, including those bibles, were written by men and women. They were inspired men and women...they also made mistakes here and there and I made sure of that so that you would NEVER TRUST A WRITTEN WORD rather than your own living heart!"
This is a blasphemy-packed statement by Harvey's god. We'll look at several things here.
God indeed wrote the Holy Bible using living instruments--these were holy men of old:

The god of Paul Harvey says that we should never trust in a written word. This is a biggie. Without the Bible, we have lies for the Bible IS TRUTH. In one stroke, Mr. Harvey takes away the only source of truth that we have. Jesus said:
Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth. John 17:17
The written word has always been operative in God's dealing with mankind. The Ten Commandments were written in stone! The Jewish people were the careful custodians of the written scriptures:
What advantage then hath the Jew? or what profit is there of circumcision? Much every way: chiefly, because that unto them were committed the oracles of God. (Romans 3:1-2)

God has always emphasized the importance of keeping His written word:
This BOOK OF THE LAW SHALL NOT DEPART OUT OF THY MOUTH; but thou shalt meditate therein day and night, that thou mayest observe to do according to all that is WRITTEN therein... (Joshua 1:8)
Psalm 119 is the longest chapter in the Bible and it is ALL about the importance of knowing the scriptures.
But what about in the New Testament? Jesus read from the BOOK Isaiah in the synagogue in Luke 4:17.
Paul read the gospel of JESUS IN THE WRITTEN WORD! Listen:

Paul Harvey's god says we should trust in our own hearts. What doth the Bible say about our hearts?

For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies. Matthew 15:19
The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it? Jeremiah 17:9

Paul Harvey says God is a Father and a MOTHER.
"All right, listen up now! I am your father and mother."

The Bible NEVER refers to God as a mother. It only refers to Him as a Father. This mother business is some new age mumbo-jumbo and goddess worship.
Paul Harvey says God doesn't want the gospel preached.

"You act like I need you and your religion to stick up for me or win souls for my sake. Please don't do me any favors. I can stand on my own, thank you."
Jesus said to preach the gospel to everyone! His parting words are called, "The Great Commission". Paul Harvey mentions a Jesus in his "A Letter From God"--why? Why? Why? Look at what Jesus said after He rose from the dead:
And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen. (Matthew 28:18-20)

Jesus said to go, but Paul Harvey's god says, "Shut up and let people perish in hell! I don't need your help!"

Paul Harvey's god accepts the disobedient, the murderer, liar, drunkard, thief, whoremonger, pedophile, etc. "with no strings attached." All criminals are in good standing with his god no matter what they do--it is the devil that accepts all criminals and sins and false religions that drown men in perdition, but the true and the living God is a good God and he is just and holy. All those that come to him through faith in his Son, Jesus, are helped by him to live rightly and holily. The days filled with fornication, lying, theft, and false worship are over--and God's true people are glad about that--true Christians are not like some kind of penned in dog wishing he were free to do evil. When we are born again, we start obeying God's word and we find that even our very desires change. Paul Harvey's god says, "No strings attached." It is the devil that tells men to do what they feel like doing. The devil is the god of this world (ref. 2 Corinthians 4:4). It is the devil that has seducing spirits and doctrines of devils that entice and deceive people. The true and the living God has holy, righteous commands found in his word.

"...And I love you anyway with NO STRINGS ATTACHED. So, lighten up, and enjoy me. That's what religions are for."
Ah, but there is a string attached--His name is Jesus and without him, a person will NEVER enter glory but eternal punishment in the lake of fire will be his dwelling place. Jesus said (not the Jesus of Mr. Harvey's imagination):
He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him. John 3:36
Jesus came to save us from our sins. We are all spiritual criminals.

Paul Harvey says every devil (behind the idols are devils) and false prophet is God.
"And, I am very tired of your main excuse. Do you think I care whether you call me God, or Jaway, or Jehovah, or Allah, Wakatonka, Branda, Father, Mother, even the Void of Nirvana. Do you think I care which of my special children you feel closest to: Jesus, Mary, Buddha, Krishna, Muhammad, or any of the others? You can call me and my special ones any name you choose if only you will go about my business of loving one another as I love you."

The Bible says that there is ONLY ONE NAME THAT CAN SAVE YOUR SOUL

THAT NAME IS JESUS!
Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is NONE OTHER NAME under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved. (Acts 4:12)

Paul Harvey says there are many paths to God. This is a lie. God is a Spirit and they that worship him must worship him in spirit AND IN TRUTH (see John 4:24)! What is truth? God's word is truth (see John 17:17)! None of this "make-it-up-as-you-go-and-you-will-be-alright." The Bible reveals that this is not so! It will not be alright. I walked that do-what-you-feel-like-doing-path for too long--I dishonoured myself and others, I was on my way to hell, AND MY BABY IS DEAD FROM ABORTION! IF YOU WANT TO LIVE WITH GOD, YOU MUST BE BORN AGAIN BY REPENTING OF YOUR SINS AND BELIEVING ON THE DEATH, BURIAL AND RESURRECTION OF HIS SON, THE LORD JESUS CHRIST. WE ALL NEED THE LORD JESUS--THAT INCLUDES ALL THOSE THAT THINK THAT THEY ARE "GOOD". ROMANS 3:23 TEACHES THAT ALL HAVE SINNED AND COME SHORT OF THE GLORY OF GOD. (How to Get to Heaven)

"Each has a unique style so that people can find the best path for themselves. But my special children, the ones your religions revolve around all live in the same place, in my heart. And they get along perfectly, I assure you. The clergy must stop creating a myth of sibling rivalry where there is none."

This is the essence of eastern mysticism--you can get to God any old kind of way. People operate by absolutes in EVERY area of life--a foot is 12 inches, stop at a stoplight, pay taxes, etc.--but when it comes to the most important thing in the universe all of a sudden people say that they cannot know the truth about the Lord God who created them. The truth of the matter is that people don't like God's requirements (found in the Holy Bible--the Authorized (King James) Version of 1611) so they go off in their own direction and choose what they want to follow. They are rebels. God left his commandments written down on paper so that we can come to faith and not be confused and deceived by deceivers. Many people want to be in God's good graces--but they want to do it their way and do whatever sins they feel like doing.

This will only ensure their eternal damnation. We come to God on his terms. We have sinned and he sent his only begotten Son, the Lord Jesus Christ, to die for our sins so that we can be forgiven. If we do not repent of our sins and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, we will die in our sins. "There are many paths just find the one that best fits you," is a lie from Satan. Disobedient church people are now basically jumping into the eastern mysticism through the "contemplative prayer" vain repetition movement. It looks like that is going to be the occult devil-worshipping spirituality for these end times.

All the occult traditions/repetitious calling-spirits traditions seem to be coming together--hinduism, buddhism, Roman Catholic mysticism, Greek Orthodox Hesychast, Kabbalism, etc. People are being prepared for the coming of the beast is coming. By peace he shall destroy man. The day of the Lord is also coming. On that day we will all stand before God at the final judgment and the books are going to be opened. We will all be there--including all the dead people...they won't be left out--nobody will be left out.

Paul Harvey says religions get along perfectly--but a cursory look around reveals that that is not true. just look at the writings of each and see that they CONTRADICT each other. Just look at their names--THEY ARE DIFFERENT. DIFFERENT THINGS DO NOT AGREE. The Lord Jesus Christ made known that he is the way, the truth, and the life; NO MAN COMETH UNTO THE FATHER BUT BY HIM (see John 14:6, Authorized Version of 1611 of the Bible). Look at Islam's conquest by the sword. Look at the Inquisition of the Roman Catholic "Church" and her torturing and burning people up that do not agree with her. Finally, "the clergy" is not creating sibling rivalry because...

The Bible is what is dividing people and exposing the truth, not the "clergy". Jesus said in Matthew 10:34, "Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword." Amen and glory to God. The Word of God is quick and powerful and sharp. Mr. Harvey espouses an imaginary Jesus who does not resemble the real Jesus Christ who is Lord of Lords and King of Kings.

There is no "sibling rivalry" because until a person has been born again, they are not my brother or sister in the faith (in the flesh yes, in the faith, no. We are all children of Adam and Eve and I have had the opportunity to enjoy the fellowship of many different peoples--black, white, Samoan, Japanese, Philippino, etc. but my brethren in the Lord know him.). Any so-called rivalry between the true Christian and the heathen is not rivalry at all. Heathens killing Christians is not sibling rivalry--it is the unrighteous persecuting the righteous (not righteous because we are righteous in and of ourselves but because we are made the righteousness of God in the Lord Jesus--because we believe in him and obey his word). The persecuting non-Christian is offended at the gospel message. This is no surprise because the Bible clearly says that Jesus Christ is a rock of offense to the disobedient: "...a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient..." ( 1 Peter 2:8). Real Christians (there are plenty of fake ones) do not use persecution and force against others.

I have one last comment.

This, "A Letter from God" should be called,
A LETTER FROM SATAN

Dieter Neth, Converted to Catholicism being almost middle age. #fundie quora.com

One might just start a prayer:

Please Lord, throw some brains down here…. Atheists are trying to be smart again here on Quora.

How do YOU know that the Earth is round?

Yes, right. You have heard a teacher TALK about it being round and you trusted your teacher to tell you the truth.

The title of Jesus is “Rabbi”. That comes up a few times in the Bible. That word means “teacher”.

So the Apostles may have heard the story about Jesus being tempted by the devil in the wilderness from Jesus himself. After all, they were hanging out together for 3 years straight and had ample time to talk. No stupid users needing smartphones back then to seem intelligent. And the trusted their teacher.

So the apostles heard about these details from Jesus and then told Matthew, Mark and Luke and probably a whole bunch of other folks as well.

I can still reproduce to great detail my story how I have met my wife, and that was almost 30 years ago. I do not claim to be smarter or to have better memory than any author from biblical times. If I can remember things like that, anyone could. The experience at hand only needs to cause a great enough impact on you and you remember it for life.

And this is Jesus after all. He should be able to remember a few things. After all, this incident in the wilderness was some 40 days before His entrance into Jerusalem. They had some 6 days together before Jesus got crucified - enough to talk about these “details”, with His Apostles, maybe during Last Supper.

Of course, these days people do not talk to each other anymore about meaningful things during supper, thanks to…… “smart” phones. And they assume that people have always been som limited throughout history. There is nothing supernatural or miraculous about sharing and remembering a story and then write it down a few decades later.

Mack Major #fundie facebook.com

Fornication. Masturbation. Adultery. Lust.

Christians are very good at telling others not to do certain things. But we often do a poor job of explaining why.

We haven't adequately explained WHY a person should not do things like sleep around or engage in unbridled sexual indulgence.

In fact, we never really delved into why sexual sins are such pernicious, dangerous and defeating sins in the lives of a believer. We haven't looked into the SPIRITUAL ramifications of those things.

Just like there are laws that govern what can legally be done to people within a country, and laws that stipulate what can happen to you for breaking the law: there are laws that also govern the operation of the spiritual realm.

When we commit sexual sins and taboos, we are giving permission for spiritual tormentors to take over certain aspects of our lives. We are opening the door and allowing ourselves to be taken captive by evil forces that operate as divine enforcers.

Everything that violates God's divine law opens the door for Satan and other demonic entities to enter our lives and wreak havoc. That's why it's so necessary and important to live a clean life.

God isn't trying to stop you from having fun. He's trying to stop you from ruining your life and aborting your purpose!

Sexual sins cause you to throw away your divine assignment and your purpose. It causes you to expend your life on things that will ultimately send you into deeper bondage, illness, depression and eventual utter destruction.

How many of you right now are feeling the cold harsh bite of the sexual sins you enjoyed just weeks, months or maybe even years ago? Do you know why you suffer? You suffer because you made yourself a captive of the tormentors.

And now you belong to them until you can be set free and delivered.

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This ebook breaks new ground and goes where few books have ever gone before. Packed with research and plenty of photos, you will finally learn exactly why sex is such an important topic to both heaven and hell, and how to take your life back from those forces that have been successful at holding you back.

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Bobby Jindal (Candidate for Mccain's VP slot) #fundie talk2action.org

"Sure, and let's talk about intelligent design. I'm a biology major. That's my degree. The reality is there are a lot of things that we don't understand. There's no theory in science that could explain how, contrary to the laws of entropy, you could create order out of chaos. There's no scientific theory that explains how you can create organic life out of inorganic matter. I think we owe it to our children to teach them the best possible modern scientific facts and theories. Teach them what different theories are out there for the things that aren't answerable by science, that aren't answered by science. Let them decide for themselves. I don't think we should be scared to do that. Personally, it certainly makes sense to me that when you look at creation, you would believe in a creator. Let's not be afraid to teach our kids the very best science."

wmfinck #racist boards.christogenea.org

No, he is not a "dark guy", he is a fucking nigger. Fucking niggers do not get some sort of elevated status as "dark guys" because they are witty, funny, or appear to be "spiritual".

As Paul of Tarsus explained in Romans, "the law is spiritual: but I am carnal", the nigger's very existence is a violation of the law. You in your naivete may be tricked into thinking that he could be a "brother in Christ", but to the rest of us such a statement is utterly repulsive. WWJD??? Jesus would tell the fucking nigger to "get away from Me, I never knew you."

You must either study, or ultimately be disinvited from this fellowship, because light has no agreement with darkness.

Raven #ufo #crackpot disclose.tv

Could Jesus Be The Same As The Aztec Quetzalcoatl Or Mayans Kulkuljan?
Some things are said to be kept quiet do to the best interests of humanity. A man with blue eyes and blonde hair with the name of Kulkulkan paid a visit to the Maya and taught them all about medicine, agriculture, mathematics and astronomy. The entity was called Quetzalcoatl by the Aztec people. But could that be the same story as that of Jesus and might it be possible that Jesus was actually an alien that visited from another star system or planet?

Very little has been said about the life of Jesus after birth and up to the age of around 30. Perhaps the star of Bethlehem wasn’t a star at all; perhaps it was the light from a UFO. Maybe Jesus was taken back to the mothership so that he could be readied for the teachings that he would eventually give to the people until he passed?
Perhaps one of the most compelling of arguments that go against the theory of mythological gods has been pointed out by Michael Tellinger. Around 9,000 years BC before the Sumer appearance, the Mayan population suddenly appeared and showed the same predilections to planting, agriculture, harvesting, commerce and trade, which the Sumeria did and which were all said to be attributed to the teachings of gods. It is more likely that there was more than just one ET group that actually left their stamp on earth.

The story of Jesus may have derived from and used by the church as one way of gaining subservient control, along with getting people to conform to religion and the government. It is possible that an entity that had supernatural abilities could have existed; more likely still is an extra-terrestrial or Anunnaki hybrid.

cdevidal #fundie godlikeproductions.com

EvolutionVsGod.com has a free 38 minute film in which various evolutionists such as a PhD/associate college professor of Anthropology at UCLA, a PhD/professor of biological sciences and anthropology at USC, a PhD/professor of ecology and evolutionary biology at UCLA and PhD/associate professor of biology at Universiy of Minnesota Morris/famous blogger PZ Myers appear to be stumped by some challenging questions. It's an interesting movie and I recommend you check it out.

In observing responses to the movie, I saw lots of evolutionists mocking but I didn't see one person who answered the questions that apparently stumped the evolutionists. Accusations began to fly: The claim is that in his previous films, the evangelist had edited responses to questions to make the interviewees look bad. Thus the claim is that the stumped evolutionists in this film had simply been edited unfairly.

To which I replied, "OK, I'm sure we'll see a statement from PZ Myers soon explaining how he was misrepresented*, but what about you? Can you answer the questions?" The response often was, "What were the questions?"

Me: "I hadn't written them down so I didn't recall them. But you can see them again if you watch the movie."

Them: "No, I'm not watching that (blankety-blank)." (Which sounds dishonest, but I'll let that pass for now.)


* PZ Myers did claim he was misrepresented: [link to freethoughtblogs.com] But without substantiation. If he gave fuller answers during the interview, I'd like to see them, but he did not: [link to www.google.com (secure)]


So I promised to write down the questions from the film. And by the way, I don't pass any judgment on the quality of these questions. Maybe they're fallacious, and you can help demonstrate that. But before you answer, some simple rules to keep everyone honest.

RULES
* You must give a direct answer to every question or you've failed. Yes, some questions appear to be repeats but please answer them all as they are all slightly different.

* If you give an answer such as "It's not possible to know that" (or something similar) to any question you fail to demonstrate the validity of your worldview. Try harder before posting.

* You agree to the principles in this flowchart or you've failed: [link to www.jacoballee.com]

* You may not commit any logical fallacies or you've failed. Here is a list of some well-known fallacies. [link to www.informationisbeautiful.net] There may be others that I am not currently aware of.


If you don't agree with these rules, don't answer. If Darwinian macro evolution does occur in nature, these questions can be answered without resorting to cheating or underhanded rhetoric to uphold it. Right? I'm sure you'll agree these are fair rules.

Items beginning with an asterisk '*' are questions, and items beginning with an equal sign '=' are important statements which do not require an answer, but which inform the next question, so they must be read and understood.

OK, go!


= "Faith is the great cop-out, the great excuse to evade the need to think and evaluate evidence." ~Richard Dawkins

= "Live Science" says of Darwinian evolution: "It can turn dinosaurs into birds, apes into humans and amphibious mammals into whales."

* Do you believe in evolution?

* Do you think it's a belief?

* When did you start to believe?

* Are you a strong believer in evolution?

= A scientific method is based on "the collection of data through observation and experimentation..." ~Science Daily

* Could you give me some observable evidence that evolution is true? Something I don't have to receive by faith. Remember, events that occured 65 million years ago can't be observed. If you say "fossil record," please be specific: Give one example.

= "We are condemned to live only for a few decades and that’s too slow, too small a time scale to see evolution going on." ~Richard Dawkins

= "We see nothing of these slow changes in progress, until the hand of time has marked the lapse of ages..." ~Charles Darwin

* You've got the the canine 'kind' with the coyote and the domestic dog, and there's the feline 'kind' which is the cats, the tiger and the kitten and you've got humankind. So, Darwin said there would be a change of 'kinds' over many years so could you give me one example of observable evidence of a change of 'kinds'? I don't want something I have to accept by faith. I want it to be observable. I don't want to have to have faith in the experts, I want to observe it myself. Can you give one example of observable evidence of a change of 'kind'?

* Did we have lungs or gills when we came out of the sea?

* The scientific method must be observable and repeatable, so could you give me one piece of observable evidence for Darwinian evolution, not adaptation or speciation, but a change of kinds? If you say "stickleback fish", you must specify what other 'kind' have they become. These have remained as fish. Remember, Lenski's bacteria are still bacteria. The Galapagos finches are still finches. Their change in beak is adaptation, not Darwinian evolution. There's no different animal involved. I want something which shows me Darwin's belief in the change of kinds is scientific. Can you give me anything that I can see, observe, and test, which is the scientific method, for Darwinian evolution which is a change of kinds, so that I don't have to exercise faith?

* If you cannot offer any observable evidence for Darwinian (macro, change in 'kind') evolution, how do you know it's true?

* No professor or biology major in the film was able to give observable evidence of a change in 'kind'. Therefore, Darwinian evolution (a change in 'kind') is un-observable. You need millions of years. If Darwinian evolution is not observable, is it scientific?

* You're trusting that the biology majors and professors know what they're talking about and they can't even give evidence of a change of kinds. Do you realize that's called 'blind faith'? Remember, "Faith is the great cop-out, the great excuse to evade the need to think and evaluate evidence." ~Richard Dawkins

* Do you believe in intelligent design?

* How would you make a rose? A rose has a seed so you've got to start from nothing. Could you make a rose from nothing?

* No professor or biology major in the film was able to claim they were able to make a rose from nothing. For the purposes of this thread, I am going to assume you cannot, either. So if you say there is no intelligent design, where does that leave you on the scale of intelligence if you can't even make a rose?

= "The coccyx vertebrae is an extremely important source of attachment for tendons, ligaments and muscles..." ~Laser Spine Institute

= For years, the appendix "...was credited with very little physiological function. We now know, however, that the appendix serves an important role in the fetus and in young adults... Among adult humans, the appendix is now thought to be involved primarily in immune functions." ~Scientific American

= My note: This link discusses erector pili/most body hair and male nipples. [link to www.livescience.com] As a married man I have found a use for male nipples. If you know what I mean. (Ahem.) And I can certainly see that the organ would likely be present on a baby in the womb before its sex is selected with hormones, as the genetalia are identical before selection. Erector pili/most body hair I'm not so certain about. It's hardly earth-shattering evidence but I would like to read more. The first thought that comes to mind is that they're useful for sweat and a slight amount of warmth.

* So could you give me an example of vestigial organs? (I believe it is implied he is asking about human organs.)

* Skeptic websites often examples of famous atheists in an attempt to win converts. But more often than not, the famous personalities cited are not atheists. Aside from Earnest Hemingway (listed in the video), Can you think of any famous atheists which you can validate have never made a statement attesting to their belief in a deity? (At 18:32 in the video, quotes from Abraham Lincoln, Carl Sagan, Mark Twain, Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, Charles Dawrwin show clearly they are/were not atheists. For the sake of brevity I will not list them here.)

= No professor or biology major in the film was able to give an example of a famous atheist. Ray said, "It is important to know that even though some of these men claim to believe in God, that doesn't mean they are believers in the one true Creator revealed in the Scriptures, or that they're genuine Christians. However, when atheists use theists or agnostics to promote their godless agenda, they're being dishonest. Then again, coming from those who claim that morality is relative to each person, convenient dishonesty should not be a surprise."

* Do you believe in moral absolutes?

* Is rape always wrong?

= PZ Myers essentially answered yes, so the evangelist stated therefore there are moral absolutes.

* So who makes the rules?

* PZ Myers stated that we make the rules. I am going to assume you will say the same. If you did not, no need to answer this question, just ponder it: So if Hitler made the rules and he had the majority, he makes the rules?

= "Evolution is a very harsh and cruel process." ~PZ Myers

* Did Hitler put into practice survival of the fittest? Such as the lion eating the antelope.

* Your pet dog (or insert other beloved pet) and your rotten neighbor are drowning. You can only save one of them. Which would you save?

* The biology majors all chose to save the dog. I am going to assume you will say the same. If you did not, no need to answer this question, just ponder it: So you think dogs are more valuable than human beings?

= "Any fetus is less human than an adult pig." ~Richard Dawkins

* If you believe in evolution it's just a matter of survival of the fittest. Your neighbor's a primate and you've got a canine, and you like the canine more than you like the primate. If the grouchy neighbor drowns, he drowns. Survival of the fittest. Would that be correct?

* Are you an atheist who thinks God doesn't exist?

* An atheist in the movie stated that after we die we cease to exist. Ray Comfort said, "If you were a car and your motor were turned off that would be right, that's inanimate. But you're a living, biological human being with the life of God in you. .. Is there no life in you?" Atheist: "Yes there's life in me." "That's your soul." If you agree with the atheist, how do you know?

* Are you a good person? If there's a heaven, will you make it there?

* How many lies have you told in your whole life?

* What would you call me if I told lots of lies? You'd call me a liar, wouldn't you?

* So what does that make you if you've told lies?

* Have you ever stolen anything in your whole life even if it's small?

* That's called theft. So what are you?

* Have you ever used God's name in vain?

= That's called blasphemy, and it's very serious to use God's name as a cuss word. One atheist said he doesn't believe in God so it's not blaspheming. Ray responded, "Well, if I don't believe in certain laws and still violate them, ignorance of the law is no excuse. So we're still guilty even though we deny a law exists or even don't know about it."

* Jesus said that if you look upon a woman with lust in your heart you've committed adultery. Have you ever looked at another person with lust, such as with pornography?

= If you answered yes to those questions (and I don't know anyone who honestly can't answer anything but yes, myself included), to quote the evangelist, "then by your own admission you're a lying, theiving, blasphemous adulterer-at-heart, and that's only four of the Ten Commandments. Just not believing in hell won't make it go away. A judge must see that justice is done if he's a good judge, and it's the same with God. If we die in our sins God will give us justice. The Bible says that no theif, no liar, no fornicator, no blasphemer, no adulterer will inherit the kingdom of God. So if you died in your sins but God gave you justice, because He's holy and perfect morally, you'd end up in hell, and I'd hate that to happen to you."

* Would you sell one of your eyes for one million dollars? Both for 100 million dollars?

= Most would say "no." Your eyes are precious to you. How much more precious is your life?

= "Now let me tell you something you know intuitively. You know that creation is proof of the Creator, God has given you that inner light. So when you look at the genius of God's creative hand, you know God exists because of creation, and the reason you choose evolution is because it gets rid of moral accountability. Evolution lets you believe that lust and theiving are just primal instincts; You're just an animal. The Bible demands moral accountability and says those things are wrong and that's why it's not acceptable to you. That's why you're not seeking after truth. Am I wrong?" ~Ray Comfort (The biology major sighed, paused, and said, "I think you're wrong.")

= "You are a unique human being, made in the image of God with a sense of justice and truth and righteousness. God gave you a conscience. It's inherent. It's shaped by society but it's inherent. You know right from wrong. You've violated His law and I don't want you to end up in hell."

= To a struggling college student: "James, if you put your finger on it, and see if we can, your struggle at the moment is because of your love for sin, because of the pleasure that sin gives you and you don't want to give it up. You're like a man with a money belt filled with gold who's just fallen into the ocean. I'm saying, if you don't get rid of that belt which weighs 80 pounds it's going to take you under. Doesn't matter how much pleasure it gives you, it's not worth losing your life for."

= To a college professor: "You're not a beast. You're a human being created by God in His image with dignity and worth and purpose."

* Do you know what God did for guilty sinners so we wouldn't have to go to hell?

= "God became a human being 2,000 years ago, Jesus of Nazareth, and He suffered and died on a cross, taking the punishment for the sin of the world. You and I violated God's law and Jesus paid our fine. That means God can legally dismiss our case because of the suffering, death and resurrection of the Savior. God can say, 'You're out of here' because someone paid your fine." ~Ray Comfort

= "And then what God can now do is clothe us in the righteousness of Christ, so on Judgment Day you're safe from God's wrath and His justice, because of the death and resurrection of the Savior. If you repent and trust in Him, God will give you a righteous standing in His eyes. He'll wash away your sins in an instant, and He'll grant you everlasting life. His last words on the cross were, 'It is finished.' In other words the debt has been paid. He came to take our punishment upon Himself. So because our fine was paid by another, God can legally dismiss your case." ~Ray Comfort

* Does that make sense? (He was not asking if they believed it, just if the statements made a logical connection.)

* When are you going to die?

= "God knows the exact moment of your death. It could be today, it could be tomorrow. I'm not using scare tactics, this is just straight reality. 150,000 people die every 24 hours, and they were no doubt all making plans for next week, so please think about this." ~Ray Comfort

= "I'm not talking about a religion that says you have to strive to get to heaven, I'm telling you that the Bible says heaven is a free gift of God. You cannot earn everlasting life, doesn't matter how religious you are, how good you are. 'God commended His love toward us in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.' And then he rose from the dead and defeated death." ~Ray Comfort

= "This is how the Bible puts it: 'For by grace are you saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast.' So eternal life is a free gift of God, and it comes because of God's mercy not because of anything we do." ~Ray Comfort

* Does that make sense?

= "I've been reading the Bible at home for over 40 years. There's no mistakes in it. Any mistakes that we think are in it are our mistakes, and you can trust God's Word. Think of how you trust professors and science books that tell you you're a primate? You trust and believe that so how much more should you trust a God who cannot lie?" ~Ray Comfort

* Are you going to think about this?

= "Soften your heart. Don't have so much blind faith in what science tells you and it's left you without any knowledge of what was in the beginning anyway. You haven't got a clue where you come from, you don't know what you're doing here on earth and you don't know what happens after you die."

* Could you be wrong about God's existence?

= An atheist responded, "Yes, but could you be wrong about God's existence?" "No." "Well then I think you're rather closed-minded." "Well if I said to you, could you be wrong about your wife's existence you'd say, "No, I know her. Don't be ridiculous. I know her and love her. And I know the Lord and I love the Lord, and He transformed my life 41 years ago, instantly, overnight, forgave my sins and gave me new desires when I had no desires or thoughts of God for the whole 22 years before I was a Christian."

= "The problem with those who are unable to see evolution, I think, is they don't have imaginations." ~Gail E. Kennedy, PhD, Associate college professor of Anthropology at UCLA

= "Human beings are still fish." ~PZ Myers

* Are you a talking primate?

* Are you a cousin of bananas?

= "I'm accepting that they did their science correctly." ~Biology major

= "I'm going to trust what those experts did, those experts came up with." ~Physics major

= "Darwinian evolution rests on faith. And once again, according to Richard Dawkins, 'Faith is the great cop-out, the great excuse to evade the need to think and evaluate evidence.' Darwinian evolution requires great faith. The knowledge of God, however, is clearly seen by all mankind. 'For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse, because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened. Professing to be wise, they became fools.' (Romans 1:20-22)" ~Ray Comfort

Note to newcomers Despite the name, this is not a Christian website. It is simply a good forum for discussion because one does not need an account to post. (You can remain anonymous.)

Various Christian News Network fundies #fundie christiannews.net

All these are in response to this story:
“Jorge Bergoglio, also known as “Pope Francis” and the head of the Roman Catholic religion, has called for believers of all religions to pray in solidarity on May 14 to ask God to rid the world of the coronavirus pandemic. He also asked that vaccines be made available to all persons threatened with infection. Bergoglio has endorsed the call to “the believers of all the religions to unite together spiritually on May 14 in a day of prayer and fasting, to implore God to help humanity overcome the coronavirus pandemic.”

Off Shore:
I don't belong to a religion those are man made. I have a true relationship with God the Father through our Lord Jesus Christ. As a son of the living God I have no business gathering with idol worshipers, 2 Corinthians 6:14-16. If roman catholic's followed God's word they would know that as true believers we are already gathered in spirit with each other and our Lord Jesus Christ there's nothing more we can do to initiate that. Once you accept the Lord Jesus Christ as your personal Savior you are united with the body of Christ forever. You can't earn it or work for it because it's a gift called grace, Maranatha.

Lydia Church:
The antichrist pushing the one world religion. That is what this is.

Neil Enpre:
2 Corinthians 6:14
Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
Ephesians 5:11
And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.

Walhei:
Pope Francis is so naive. He thinks like Jimmy Carter. He wants to be called a peace maker. But Francis is wrong to embrace false religions in pursuit of peace.
Every time Francis agrees with the leaders of pagan religions he elevates those religions in the eyes of their followers! This is demeaning God because there are no other God's, only one God.
The followers of those pagan false religions are deceived. They think they are worshipping the one true God. Satan is a crafty fellow.
Jesus described Satan; "He is the Fathers of LIes and the Great Deceiver."

Rose White:
Satan's antichist!

MarsingID:
Acts 4
11 Jesus is the one of whom the scripture says,
‘The stone that you the builders despised
turned out to be the most important of all.’
12 Salvation is to be found through him alone; in all the world there is no one else whom God has given who can save us.”
This Pope is a 'Fraud'

AwesomeMachine #fundie fstdt.com

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The Christian Religion is the absolute ultimate Power. If a person practices Roman Catholicism they can gain absolute Power. I have absolute Power by The Blood of Jesus Christ. I cannot die. I cannot be defeated. I will always have everything I ask for. [...]

Science is a catalog of observations that the universe does the will of God, perfectly. The Will of God being perfectly followed by all of Creation is the reason things can be predicted through science. But, without true knowledge, science becomes sorcery. The applied science of medicine is now the cause of illness. The aborteress makes death to the doctor through the sin of medical practice. Medicine is no longer practiced, but committed. When you go to see a doctor, he is programmed to suck as much cash out of your sickness as he possibly can. This is what happens to science without God. Patients are being sacrificed, being given expensive, lethal drugs in order to get every last penny out of them before they die. This serves as a sacrifice to the demon, Mammon. Science has been turned into witchcraft and sorcery.

By ignorance to Jesus Christ man has doomed himself to use all his knowledge for destruction. If The Name Jesus Christ is not proclaimed throughout the world, the disease of deceit will corrode man away like cancer. Homicide, abortion, sodomy, disease, starvation, suicide, genocide, use of artificial birth control, human sacrifice, and cannibalism are all symptoms of the disease that infects mankind. Our mockery of Jesus is our last cry to Him before we perish from an otherwise perfect universe. We are infected, and dying. Mankind is over.

Jan51 #conspiracy rr-bb.com

We had a computer for maybe 10-12 years, and ever since we got it (locally built), it had a strange, loud, extremely annoying beep. The guys who built it could not locate, explain or fix the beep. It didn't do it all the time--it followed no rhyme or reason. It was two-tone, high and low an octave apart, like a European police car siren. It might go on for a minute or two, or an hour or two. It might beep every day, or many times a day, or not for weeks or months. It appeared to have nothing to do with any particular program, the internet, or anything else. It would give you a headache, and drove our company nuts--we'd just have to turn it off. (One asked, "Do you have something in the microwave?" LOL) After many years, another outfit was working on it, and when we asked them about the beep, they could not explain it either, but disabled the part of the computer that made the noise so that we could no longer hear it, even if it was still happening.

Since no one could explain the mystery, I came up with my own explanation: The government has a secret chip they install in all motherboards so that they can listen to us. It's so secret that even the computer manufacturers don't know about it. In our case, the chip malfunctioned, but since it was secret, no one knew it was there, so no one could find or fix it.

Now I see I was probably right.

Now that I know they are there, sometimes when I'm talking on the phone, especially if the conversation is about something that I think may interest them, I tell them hi, that I know they're there, that Jesus loves them, and that I hope they read the Bible because that's where all the answers are.

Mark Jones #fundie markjones1388.esy.es

In Acts chapter 17 we read of a people called the Bereans. In this passage (verses 10-15) that they appear in (very little of the Bereans is mentioned in the Bible), it shows them take the words of the apostle Paul and examine them in relation to the Old Testament scriptures (quite possibly the Septuagint, certainly the Tanakh if not the Septuagint).

In verse 11 we read the following quote:
“Now the Berean Jews were of more noble character than those in Thessalonica, for they received the message with great eagerness and examined the Scriptures every day to see if what Paul said was true.” Acts 17:11 (NIV)

The Bereans were the people who lived in the ancient city of Berea (also known as Beroea), the city is now called Veria and is situated in Macedonia in Northern Greece.

Many people will listen to something they are taught and will take that as truth. However the example the Bereans set in this verse is that we should check the validity of what we are told and examine those things and check that they are in line with what the Bible tells us. There would’ve been no doubt people in that time who reacted when they read this and expressed outrage, saying something along the lines of, “how can these people dare to doubt the words of the apostle Paul”. It may sound like a harsh response, but it’s often what we see happen today, in fact many atheistic arguments are based on similar logic, “who are you to disagree with the words of Stephen Hawking (etc)?”. That kind of logic in of itself proves that it is of man and not of God. The principle outlined here in Acts 17 with the the Bereans is an important one and it is something we can glean something from.
So in this post I’m going to outline a few ways we can test something said in the Bible or even an interpretation of a verse someone references or just simply the outlining of a belief that someone has, and test it in such a way that does justice by God’s word and doesn’t mire it in our eyes.

So without further ado, let’s get into it:

Go To God’s Word First:
You’ll have no doubt heard someone ask the question, why are there are so many contradictions in the Bible? This argument is actually rooted in a seed of deception that goes back to first century AD, in 2 Corinthians 4:4 we are told that the god of this age (who is Satan) has blinded the eyes of the unbelievers so that they will not see the light of the gospel. The word we see in the original Greek language where we see the word unbelievers is the word apistos. The word apistos means unfaithful, faithless, incredible, unbelieving or incredulous. So this statement in 2 Corinthians 4:4 almost seems to have a Ronseal principle to it (does exactly what it says on the tin), however I think it goes a little deeper than that. In John 3:16 we see the word pisteuo and it means to be persuaded of something or to completely trust in something. I think Paul is hinting at the reverse of this very principle outlined in John 3:16, so 2 Corinthians 4:4 isn’t just referring to those who haven’t committed their lives to Christ, but also to those who doubt the ways and the truth of God. This could be part of the reason why Paul tells the Church in Corinth a little later in the letter to examine themselves to see if they are in the faith (2 Corinthians 13:5).

But back to the “contradictions”. Any so-called contradictions that we run into in scripture are either born out of man-made teaching or simply out of a lack of understanding of scripture as a whole. What we need to do is cross-check with what the scriptures say and the Bereans had that principle nailed, they cross-checked a statement or a principle we now find in the New Testament with what was written in the Old Testament.
NB – Check out my post called “The 2 Timothy 3:16 Principle” for more on the subject.

Now this means a couple of things, first we actually need to read the Old Testament. Some people don’t like reading the Old Testament because they find it confusing, or they believe it paints a different picture of God than of the one we see in the New Testament. In response to that let me say this, the human mind is an incredible thing, but our heart is even more powerful than our minds. In fact the prophet Jeremiah tells us that the heart is deceitful above all things and beyond cure (note this in reference to human works) and he asks the question who can understand it? (Jeremiah 17:9) However we read in Ezekiel 36:26 a promise from God where we are told that He will give us a new heart, removing our heart of stone and replacing it with a heart of flesh (not to be confused with the flesh Paul often speaks of). So if our hearts are polluted then it is entirely possible for our hearts to convince our minds of something that is contrary to what is the truth. This is part of the principle behind the words of Jesus in the Gospel of Luke when He told us to deny ourselves daily and to take up our cross and follow Him (Luke 9:23). Where we see the word deny in this verse in Luke it is the Greek word arnesastho which is very closely linked to a word we’ve discussed before on this blog, arneomai. As we’ve talked about in the past the word arneomai means to deny, disown or contradict, so in this verse in Luke it’s saying that we have to literally give up ownership of ourselves and take up our cross and follow Jesus. So we need to read the Old Testament.
The other thing we need to do is to see if it fits with the overall picture that scripture gives us (so reading the entire Bible). For example, does what we see in Psalm 1:2 where we are told that our delight is in the law of the Lord and on that law (the word of God) we should meditate on it day and night line up with other verses in scripture. We are told in Joshua 1:8 to meditate on the law of the Lord day and night, it’s the exact same principle. And just to show that this is not a ruse or anything like that, let me ask you what you’re reaction would be if I told you that there was over 400 years between the writing of these two verses. You see Joshua chapter 1 would’ve been written in about 1406 BC and Psalm 1 would’ve been about 979 BC, now if those two dates are exact (I have no reason to say they’re not), then that puts these two verses 427 years apart. But I’ll get into timelines a little later on.

What we need to do when a preacher preaches a sermon or a Bible study leader explains a passage or a verse is to go away and read the scriptures and check if it all lines up.

We Need To Read Into A Bit Of History:

Now, I know that history isn’t everybody’s cup of tea however when it comes to understanding the words of the Bible it can be quite key.

However please let me briefly explain why history is important when it comes to testing the validity of God’s word. You see what it simply boils down to is the fact that when it comes to the historical claims of the Bible (creation, Jesus, the ark, the exodus, etc), none of us who are reading this post were alive when those events occurred. So the question then is how can we know they’re true historical accounts? Is there evidence for such events in the Bible? Well to answer the first question, there is an amazing wealth of evidence for the events that the Bible outlines, we have found the ruins of the city of Jericho we also have massive evidence supporting the global flood recorded in Genesis 6-9 (you can see more on that here) and there’s a more than all of that, but I’ll leave you to do your own research (I’ll give some recommended sites to start with for doing that). And the answer to the second question, is yes, there’s lots of evidence supporting the Biblical accounts.

So let me encourage you to look into things such as Biblical chronology, and Biblical history. Some of the stuff you’ll find along the way is fascinating. For example I’m currently reading a book called “The Discovery of Genesis” by C.H. Kang and Ethel R. Nelson, the book looks at examples of how the Chinese language links in with the accounts of the book of Genesis. It is a truly fascinating book, in it we see examples such as the word for boat relating to the flood, when we break down the symbols that make up the word boat we can see that the word boat points to a vessel for eight people. So reading into some of this is not only fascinating but can help us to grow stronger in the faith.

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History is important to the events of the Bible, because if the events of the Bible did not happen then the Bible is not infallible, and because of the claim of 2 Timothy 3:16 that all scripture is God breathed, then if even 1% of the Bible is false then the entire Bible is compromised.

However let me say that although history is important to understanding the validity of the Bible, by all means this does not mean you have to be an expert in the subject. One of the best things to know as a Christian when it comes to any question that arises in regards to the Bible is where to go to find answers to those said questions.

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Little Bit:

Did you know that one of the most common objections that critics of the Christian faith make, is that the Bible apparently tells us that the world is flat? An example of where this comes from is found in Revelation 7:1 which makes reference to the “four corners of the earth”, however the Bible states in Isaiah 40:22 that the earth is a circle, remember though the obvious understanding (before some misinterprets the word circle) that a sphere is a 3D circle and the earth is spherical in nature.
Science tells us a lot about the truth of Biblical history, for example did you know that the mitochondrial (from the mother) and y chromosome (father) both trace back to a single ancestral sequence approximately 6,000 years ago (more on that here), this is something that you may not get taught in a science classroom today. Science is very important to know about in regards to defending our faith today, as it is highly likely to be one of the first areas you will be challenged on about your faith, bearing in mind the myth that is running around rampantly that says “science has disproved God”.

Again like in all of the other subjects, you don’t have to be an expert in the field, again I’m most certainly not although I do enjoy reading into science, but it is helpful to know a little bit on the subject and more importantly to know where to go to find answers to the questions you’ll get asked.

Now the Bible does make some scientific claims, such as we all come from two people, Adam and Eve. The thing we have to look into is whether or not science supports the claims made in the Bible, I touch on the Adam and Eve question a little bit a couple of paragraphs before this one. But looking into science is pretty important in this day and age to understanding the validity behind the Bible, but again you don’t have to be an expert on science but having a basic understanding of it and knowing where to go to find some great answers is definitely valuable.
One other thing I think is worth mentioning is that understanding the difference between historical and operational science, the reason why I say this is because very often at the minute the lines between the two get blurred particularly when you’re talking to evolutionists. We often see the claim that creation is pseudo-science and evolution is science, however both evolution and creation are historical science, they are versions of history that haven’t been observed through operational science that we either accept or don’t accept and then use operational science to look for evidence that supports the historical science that we accept. But in a basic way of saying it is historical science is conclusions that we form from things that we see from the past (historical records, archaeology, etc), whereas operational science is the testable repeatable and observational methods that we can use today, such as carbon dating for example (check out this article for more). So knowing enough about the difference between historical and operational science is of a great benefit in helping us tell the difference between the two, but again you don’t have to be an expert on the subject, but know where you can get the information from that you need to answer the questions.

In Closing:

So that’s all I wanted to say in this post eally. When it comes to testing what the Bible has to say to us, we need to start with the Bible and cross-check it with what it has to say in other parts of it. Look into a bit of history, look at what evidence we find that supports the accounts in scripture.
Read a bit into the original languages look at what the original words were in their original languages, find out what they mean and how they correspond to your understanding of what you’re reading. And finally look a bit into science, go and look into whether or not science supports the Bible or not. But don’t worry about being an expert in these things, you don’t have to be one, again I’m not one.

I hope you’ve found this post both interesting and helpful. I would love to hear your thoughts, as I mentioned I’m going to post some links below that may help with looking into some of these things, so if there’s any extra ones you can think of just drop them in the comments or send me them over through my Facebook page and I’ll update the list, I may even create a sub-page here on the site of useful links, let me know if that is something that you would want.

I’ll be posting again soon as I have a lot of posts in the draft que currently being edited.
But until next time I’ll leave you with the links below.

All the best,
Mark

hmghosthost #fundie youtube.com

[On "One night in Bangkok"]

It's great to see the long version of this song. Oh... just FYI for those into trivia... this song is illegal in Thailand. It was outlawed by the Thai government back in the 80's because it insults their pagan god "Buddha".

[Someone corrects them, telling them Bhudda is not a god]

Smilingschip, I knew that someone was going to say that. While some follow him merely for his antichrist teachings, Buddha is in fact most certainly worshipped by thousands of people, therefore making him a "god". Buddhism is a religion and there is no such thing as a religion without a god. Buddhism is a religion because Buddha is worshipped as a god. There are colleges to educate you on these things.

David J. Stewart #fundie jesus-is-savior.com

Jesus expressed His love at times in unconventional manners that mad people angry or frustrated at Him. John the Baptist was the greatest man born amongst women the Bible declares (Mathew 11:11). No doubt, Jesus loved John dearly. Yet, John didn't understand why he was rotting in a prison while God incarnate was walking the earth. I mean, John had done his very best to prepare the people for the Lord's coming, now he's on death row locked up behind bars. John became discouraged and even questioned Christ's legitimacy...

"And John calling unto him two of his disciples sent them to Jesus, saying, Art thou he that should come? or look we for another?" -Luke 7:19

Wow!, did Jesus even abandon His friends in time of need? We don't understand the spiritual significance of what was done, but God knows the reasons. We must maintain a complete Biblical perspective of the Saviour. It is a dangerous thing to hold to a lopsided view of the Saviour. Jesus loves people, so much that He died upon the cross for all of us (John 3:16). Yet, Jesus shelled the corn (preached hard) and spoke the truth when it needed to be spoken. Jesus was no wimp, no spineless coward, no compromiser...Jesus was a man's man, the Son of God, God incarnate. Jesus cared for others and loved His family and friends. However, love cannot supercede truth. True love occurs within the framework of truth. If love is not based upon truth, then it is not God's love. I love you enough to tell you the truth, even though I may risk becoming unpopular or being disliked for it.

So to those of you who think that Jesus never spoke a harsh word or never criticized someone else's religion...you are very wrong! Jesus was quite outspoken and didn't worry about offending people. Jesus was much rather willing to be divided over truth, than to be united by error. If you think that my website is lacking the Saviour's love, then I suggest that you read the New Testament throughly. In so doing, you will discover that the loving Saviour at times flipped over tables, threw people's things on the floor, assaulted them with a whip, and then drove them out of the building. If you don't like me, you'll hate Jesus. Jesus told some people that they would one day be weeping and gnashing their teeth after being cast into outer darkness (Matthew 8:12). You wouldn't have liked Billy Sunday either. Jesus was no respecter of persons and spoke the plain truth with apology. That's what you call "tough love." Let us follow in the Saviour's footsteps by doing the same. God deliver us from this weak-kneed generation of television believers.

bcats #fundie techre.vu

You're not understanding, when you say God lacks humanity, God portrays , for fool humans. God explained what would happen if mankind sinned against Him! But because of freewill mankind had that option. When man sinned God cursed the whole creation, included man, animals, plantlife, weather, the sky, the heavens, everything. Told man he would now be on his own. Man choose that when he sinned. God didn't want that. Wonder why God lets bad things happen to good people? Because He cannot interfere with our freewill! Sometimes God does interfere, when asked to, it's called a miracle! But God told us we'd be on our own if we sinned. It's our fault! But because God does show humanity compassion, He sent Jesus to die for us so we could have a second chance! God can not break His own laws, so somebody had to pay the price for us, so Jesus paid the price to justify God giving us a second chance! Freewill, God can't break His own laws. That's why we need Jesus. He saved us, yes from hell (A real place). God DID NOT humans on the same level as Himself. He created us in His own immage. That means We also are spirits! Guess what, I'm about to blow your mind! Your spirit IS YOUR MIND! YES what your thinking with is your spirit! Science has looked in the brain but they

CANNOT FIND YOUR MIND! That's because your mind IS YOUR SPIRIT, and SOUL. Your spirit looks just like your body. My spirit will recognize other spirits, if I know them, because our spirits look just like us. So when we die, our spirits leave these bodies, the body dies, the spirit lives forever, somewhere, heaven or hell! Everything living that God created lives forever! That includes our pets! Animals have spirits too! Animals do not have souls. Animals do not need souls because they do not sin! So that means anything living, lives forever. Dying is not something that God created or creates. See man and satan sinned, and death is what we created by sinning. How 'bout that!

Tyronehster #fundie news24.com

Harris not only forgets that his argument cuts both ways, but also fails to see how logic clearly dictates that the correct solution to the Extinction Equation would be to put an end to science rather than religion. The five major religions, Hinduism, Chinese folk religion, Buddhism, Christianity, and Islam have collectively been around 33 times longer than modern science without ever once threatening the species, whereas in a mere 350 years, science has managed to produce multiple threats to continued human existence.

So the collected religions have been around for a combined 11 600 years and have not managed to even threaten the eradication of mankind, whereas science, as we know it, has been around for a mere 350 years, and since the 6th and 7th August, 1945, the world has been under the constant threat of annihilation.

David J. Stewart #fundie jesus-is-savior.com

The Unitarian Universalist Association of Congregationalists is a Satanic religion. How do I know? Very simply, because they embrace all religious faiths and deny Jesus' deity. Take a look at the image which I captured below.

The above website and organization are a satanic cult that embrace all religions as being valid. Biblically, there is only one way and that is through Jesus Christ, the only begotten Son of God. Notice that they list Judaism on the left column. In fact, 25% of the Unitarian Universalist Church are Jewish and followers of Judaism. Judaism adamantly denies that Jesus is the Christ, which makes them liars and antichrists according to 1st John 2:22.

According to an American Religious Identification Survey[1] there are 629,000 Unitarian Universalist members just in the United States. That's 629,000 people who are worshipping a false god. The true and living God was manifest (revealed) to the world in the flesh of the man Christ Jesus (John 1:1-3, 14). Literally, the Godhead became flesh in Jesus Christ (Colossians 2:9 - King James Bible). God walked this earth in Jesus! Also, please study Christ in the Old Testament.

I captured the above image to expose this false religion as a front organization for World Religion. As we draw nearer unto the End Times, increasingly we're going to see one-size-fits-all religions like Bahá'í Faith and the Unitarian Universalist religion. Such false churches embrace the homosexual movement and don't preach against sin. They have religion without truth. They have churchianity, but not Christianity.

As you see above on their website, even atheists and humanists are honored as members! You see, the New Age religion of Satan says that you can believe anything you want except Biblical Christianity (which excludes all forms of self-righteousness). Salvation is not found in ANY religion; but rather, in a Person—The Lord Jesus Christ!

Below is a quote from one of their members, explaining their denial of Jesus' deity...

We can begin by acknowledging that Jesus must have been, first and foremost, a human being like any and every other human being who has ever lived. The difference was the depth of his faith—his trust—in God, the intimacy of his relationship with the divine, and the clarity of his awareness. When he is remembered as saying, “The Father and I are one,” he was talking about a union that is more clearly described with the words, “The Father is in me, and I am in the Father.” The man we know as Jesus was so in touch with the sacred as to be as one with it, yet he was ever and always a human being.

SOURCE: JESUS AND THE MODERN SEEKER, by Erik Walker Wikstrom (January/February 2004).

Members of the Unitarian Universalist religion don't believe that Jesus is Who He professed to be... THE ALMIGHTY (Revelation 1:8). Jesus is Almighty God! Anyone who denies Jesus' deity is unsaved.

Unitarian History

The word “Christian” is highly misused and misapplied...

“Unitarian Universalism is the result of the merger of two separate denominations: Unitarianism and Universalism. Originally, all Unitarians were Christians who did not believe in the Holy Trinity of God (Father, Son, and Holy Ghost).”

SOURCE: Unitarian History

It is a false claim that there are Christians who deny the Godhead (the Trinity). No Christian denies the doctrine of Christ, which includes His deity (John 1:1-3,14) and Godhead (Colossians 2:9, king James Bible). For anyone to openly deny the Godhead is sure evidence that they're unsaved.

One of the organization's stated principles is...

"Acceptance of one another and encouragement to spiritual growth in our congregations."

SOURCE: UUA: Our Unitarian Universalist Principles

Like the demonic Freemasonry religion, Unitarian Universalists invite members of different denominations to unite in a common cause. This religion is pure New World Order all the way! I feel sorry for children who are deceived by this satanic deception. Religion is not Christianity.

The FIRST UNITARIAN CHURCH of Cincinnati has the banner to the left on their main webpage. They advertise of being a religion that fits the congregation. The Bible foretold of this type of religious denomination in 2nd Timothy 4:3, “For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears.”

Such apostates will not attend a real Church where a man of God preaches the Bible. Instead, they ordain homosexuals and gather together in a social club that is as phony as can be. They know not the God of the Bible. They are Christ-rejecters who follow ANOTHER JESUS which the Bible does not teach. They believe ANOTHER GOSPEL of anything goes! They have ANOTHER SPIRIT in their services, a familiar spirit of doctrines of demons! 2nd Corinthians 11:4, “For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.” Jesus commanded in John 5:39... SEARCH THE SCRIPTURES!!!

Master Samwise #fundie disqus.com

BeWhoYouAre:
You can learn the golden rule growing up without any connection whatsoever to God or religion. It's simple enough in how it is taught - treat others the way you want to be treated. It works perfectly well, it's sound moral teaching, and doesn't require a God, so why keep trying to weld God to it? And you call ME hilarious?

Master Samwise:
"You can learn the golden rule growing up without any connection whatsoever to God or religion." Specifically the formulation from Judeo-Christian sources? Because no you can't.
In this entire discussion, I have not actually brought up God. In fact, in my first post, I SPECIFICALLY said that we could set God out on this one. Then I showed how pagan philosophers argued for an objective morality without the invocation of God. In this entire discussion, you seem to be trying to dishonestly move the conversation towards one where you can bash on God while I merely point out how you completely misunderstand or ignore your opponent's position. In fact, your posts are immensely helpful in proving that case. Prediction: you will latch onto the golden rule bit and ignore everything else I said.

BeWhoYouAre:
You're the one being dishonest. I've had this discussion numerous times with people who seem to want to make the claim that you can't have morality without some kind of supernatural compass. It's nonsense. If you grew up without religion, you learn your morality from your parents, and it's good and decent morality because that's what your parents want you to learn.
You've said yourself above that you can't learn the golden rule without the formulation from Judeo-Christian sources. That's precisely the accusation that I've made, so HELLO, MR. STRAWMAN? Where are you? I've been pretty hilarious to you with my pathetic lack of understanding, apparently, why don't you tell me what I'm missing here?

Master Samwise:
"I've had this discussion numerous times with people who seem to want to make the claim that you can't have morality without some kind of supernatural compass." You are all over the map here buddy.
As you can plainly see, I set the God question aside WAAAAY earlier and focused on an objective moral order proved through reason. For the love of all that is good, do you see NOW?
"You've said yourself above that you can't learn the golden rule without the formulation from Judeo-Christian sources." Prediction confirmed.

Graham Kerr #fundie disqus.com

Graham Kerr:
Madison, like Jefferson, never thought government should be protected from the church, but the exact opposite. Remember, the Church of England was one of the things they objected to.

Guzzman:
So you claim Jefferson and Madison "never thought government should be protected from the church, but the exact opposite"? Do you have a primary source for that claim?
The notion that Madison's and Jefferson's wall between religion and government works in one direction only – i.e., it serves to protect religion from government, but not government from religion – has no basis in history, law, or even common sense.
The very idea is self-contradictory: If ANY religious group is free to encroach upon and control government and thereby achieve a privileged status, all others are at risk of falling into disfavor and facing government discrimination and even persecution. One of the primary objectives of the First Amendment was to prevent arming any religious group with the force of law. A government controlled by religion is the very definition of theocracy - and that is precisely what the founders wished to avoid.

Graham Kerr:
"The notion that Madison's and Jefferson's wall between religion and government works in one direction only – i.e., it serves to protect religion from government, but not government from religion – has no basis in history, law, or even common sense."
Jefferson's 1802 letter to the Danbury Baptists.
The aforementioned Church of England.
I'm not a product of the 21st century public school system, so I'm not quite as stupid and easy to manipulate as you think I am.
Peddle your lies somewhere else.

Guzzman:
Jefferson's "wall of separation" between religion and government means exactly that - a barrier that divides two things into distinct domains. A "usurpation by one side or the other" (to use Madison's phrase) would be a breach of that wall. Government can no more encroach upon religion than religion can encroach upon government.
The Supreme Court has repeatedly affirmed since 1879: "Separation means separation, not something less. Jefferson's metaphor in describing the relation between Church and State speaks of a 'wall of separation,' not of a fine line easily overstepped... 'The great American principle of eternal separation' - Elihu Root's phrase bears repetition - is one of the vital reliances of our Constitutional system for assuring unities among our people stronger than our diversities. It is the Court's duty to enforce this principle in its full integrity. We renew our conviction that 'we have staked the very existence of our country on the faith that complete separation between the state and religion is best for the state and best for religion.' McCollum v. Board of Education, 1948.

Graham Kerr:
If you read the aforementioned letter, you'd know what Jefferson had in mind was protecting church from government. To imply anything else is a lie.

Guzzman:
From Jefferson's letter: "I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,' thus building a wall of separation between Church & State."
How does "building a wall of separation between Church & State" protect only religion from government and not also government from religion? Read James Madison's 1817 "Detached Memoranda - Amendment I (Religion)" where he discusses "the dangers of encroachments by Ecclesiastical Bodies" as being a violation of the First Amendment. He further states that religious liberty is only safeguarded when you have constitutional "separation between Religion & Govt." He then discusses several historical examples of "encroachment by Ecclesiastical Bodies" and the "danger of a direct mixture of Religion & civil Government." I don't how the founders could have been any more explicit in their writings that government and religion should be kept separate:
"The settled opinion here [in the United States] is, that religion is essentially distinct from civil Government, and exempt from its cognizance; that a connection between them is injurious to both." (Letter to Edward Everett, Montpelier, March 18, 1823).

Graham Kerr:
The thing is, you wish for it to be the case, and yet, it is clear the Jefferson letter doesn't make it so.
Why do you think the Constitution says freedom OF religion and not from it?
It's nothing but a lie to assert any of our founding fathers were against acknowledging God in a public venue. God is mentioned on the SCOTUS building, for Pete's sake.
If you want to campaign for a Godless America, do it at a website better suited for that sort of garbage. Because you are not impressing anyone, you're just trying to make yourself look important.

Guzzman:
FYI, the Constitution does not contain the words "freedom of religion" as you claim, but Amendment 1 does prevent government from "prohibiting the free exercise thereof. " Embodied in the concept of freedom of religion is freedom from religion. The government cannot dictate to us which god we must have, how many gods we must have, or that we must have any god at all. That is most certainly freedom of, and freedom from religion. As Justice John Paul Stevens explained in Wallace v. Jaffree, 472 U.S. 38 (1985):
"Just as the right to speak and the right to refrain from speaking are complementary components of a broader concept of individual freedom of mind, so also the individual's freedom to choose his own creed is the counterpart of his right to refrain from accepting the creed established by the majority. At one time it was thought that this right merely proscribed the preference of one Christian sect over another, but would not require equal respect for the conscience of the infidel, the atheist, or the adherent of a non-Christian faith such as Islam or Judaism. But when the underlying principle has been examined in the crucible of litigation, the Court has unambiguously concluded that the individual freedom of conscience protected by the First Amendment embraces the right to select any religious faith or none at all."

Graham Kerr:
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
Notice the words, "freedom from religion" don't appear. Period. Saying it does is just a wish of yours.
So far, you are zero for two.
If you dislike religion so much, move to China.

Eric #fundie disqus.com

Eric:
From context, the word sex means male or female. It would be interesting to see when they added the word orientation. Let's pray for Judge Thomas who is ill. If something is illegal at the time, then one could be fired for breaking the law. So if I find an employee is breaking a current law such as theft, I could legally fire him. So if Sodomy was still illegal in 1964 then it was legal at least then to fire homosexuals because it used to be illegal when we were still primarily believing citizens, I actually feel government should not interfere with ones family decisions either in the home or in a private workplace.

The Invisible Man:
Look at it this way: If you fire someone for being homosexual, let's say it's a man, you're firing him for being a man having a relationship with a man when you wouldn't have fired a woman for having a relationship with a man. So...it's firing someone due to their sex, isn't it?

Eric:
No, it's firing someone from your company because they are not a good fit, it's your company, and there are plenty of jobs at Target , Nike, or hair salons for homosexual men. There are many jobs not suitable or good fits for st right men too BTW so don't give me any unfair BS either.

The Invisible Man:
What sort of jobs do you think are not a "good fit" for homosexual people? What jobs aren't suitable for heterosexual people? You mentioned hair salons for homosexual men - why wouldn't a heterosexual man be just as suitable for that job? A hairstylist isn't a sex worker, you know.

Eric:
I would say tht a hair salon full of tee heeding gay men would not be a good fit for a straight man just as Sodom wasn't a good fit for Lot. But God removed him and his family befor raining down fire and brimstone on the city the day He destroyed it. They had gotten to the point in their homosexual sin that they thought that it was their "civil right" and "human right" to rape any man they wished too in "their" city. They did not respect freedom of religion or civil and human rights of others either so they and Beto [O’Rourke] share this characteristic.

Fred Luter #fundie advocate.com

Right Wing Watch reports the president of the Southern Baptist Convention, Fred Luter, is blaming North Korea leader Kim Jong-un’s recent threat to attack America on debates over marriage equality and lifting the ban on gays in the Boy Scouts of America.

“I would not be surprised that at the time when we are debating same-sex marriage, at a time when we are debating whether or not we should have gays leading the Boy Scout movement, I don’t think it’s just a coincidence that we have a mad man in Asia who is saying some of the things that he’s saying,” Luter told radio host Rick Wiles.

Luter, who became the first African-American head of the Southern Baptist Convention last year, was responding to Willes’ suggestion that Jong-un’s threat was a punishment from God due to “our slide into Immorality.”

“You know at precisely the same time the Supreme Court is hearing these arguments on same-sex marriage in Asia a crazy man in possession of nuclear weapons, Kim Jong-un, is openly saying: I have ordered our military to position our rockets on US targets in Hawaii, Japan, Guam and the mainland of the United States,” Willes said. “He has gone into a full state of war this week. I don’t know, Pastor Luter, I don’t know if anybody is — I know they’re not — they’re just not putting this together. You got this happening over here and you got this happening over here: could the two be connected? Could our slide into immorality be what is unleashing this mad man over here in Asia to punish us?”

David J. Stewart #fundie jesusisprecious.org

One of the hardest things to stomach these days is churches that don't want the truth. IT'S HAPPENING EVERYWHERE!!! In March of 2015, a shocking 20,562 Presbyterian ministers in 10,083 churches approved of sex perverts getting married. Those churches have abandoned the truth that homosexuality is a grievous sin in God's sight, punishable by death in Old Testament times. Prior to 1962, homosexuality was a punishable crime in all 50 states. What changed? I'll tell you, the U.S. Supreme Court removed and banned God's Holy Word and prayer from America's classrooms in 1962-1963.

I had once attended a pseudo (false) Independent Baptist church whose radio show promoted the saying, “GOD WANTS US TO SPEAK UP, BUT SATAN WANTS US TO SHUT UP!” Ironically, they (the pastors) called me into the church office and told me to SHUT UP about the purity of the King James Bible! They told me to SHUT UP about all the new corrupt Bible versions. They told me to SHUT UP about Dr. John MacArthur's heresy on the blood, who denies that Jesus' blood is in Heaven on the Mercy Seat. They told me to SHUT UP about Martin Luther, who taught sacramental salvation still 12 years after he allegedly got saved in 1517. They told me to SHUT UP about the satanic lie of Lordship Salvation. They told me to SHUT UP and not to expose Rick Warren, Billy Graham, Paul Washer, Ray Comfort, Charles Stanley, Beth Moore, Pat Robertson, Joel Osteen, John Hagee, James Dobson and Jimmy Swagger's false teachings on salvation.

They told me to SHUT UP, accusing me of causing confusion and divisiveness in the church... FOR TELLING THE TRUTH!!! They wanted me to sit there in the pew each Sunday, sing and tithe, go through all the motions like a good puppet; while wearing a gag over my mouth, not being allowed to share fundamental Christian books with those sitting next to me, not permitted to share fundamental sermons with others. They called Dr. Jack Hyles “a cult” and said they forbade me from sharing Brother Hyles' sermons, especially anything proclaiming the exclusivity of the King James Bible. This is an Independent Baptist Church! What a crying shame. I literally left the so-called “church” in tears, realizing that I could not support such wickedness and apostasy.

They literally laughed in my face when I tried to hand them another copy of Dr. Al Lacy's awesome book, “NIV: THE ANTICHRIST'S BIBLE.” Isn't that something, professed men of God, pastors of a church, mocking and scorning THE TRUTH! It didn't come as a surprise that one of those shameful pastors boasted to me that he had recently attended a homosexual AWAB meeting. My, oh my! AWAB is of the Devil, straight out of the pits of Hell beneath. Our nation is going to Hell because our churches are going to Hell.

Literally, the heresy of Lordship Salvation is a false plan of salvation, which does not produce the new birth in Christ Jesus. The Apostle Peter preached the Gospel to Cornelius, and Cornelius believed and was saved. Peter did NOT tell Cornelius to do even one thing to be saved. NOTHING!!! Peter simply told the story of Jesus crucified on the cross and risen three days later. Cornelius believed the Gospel and was immediately saved. The lie of Lordship Salvation requires a high price to be saved. That's the satanic plan of salvation of Billy Graham, who says salvation will cost you a high price.

You cannot reason with the average pastor or Christian leader today concerning THE TRUTH. Heresies are creeping into our fundamental churches by the hour. The churches are boggled down with the heresy of Zionism (Pastor J. Vernon McGee refutes Zionism), worshipping the present-day apostate nation of secular Israel (MP3 by Dr. Texe Marrs exposing Zionism). Most believers, including Christian leaders, are woefully ignorant of the Holy Scriptures. From the government scandal of 501c3 state-licensed organizations, to the heresy of a Young Earth, the churches are being deceived.

Perhaps the most difficult truth to convince pastors of is that a diabolical New World Order exists. Most pastors actually think Islam was behind the 911 attacks, buying into the bogus official story hook, line and sinker. WAKE UP!!! The Illuminati (the Luciferian worshipping elite) masterminded, executed and orchestrated the 911 attacks (MP3 by 32-year New York City firefighter and police detective veteran, Rudy Dent) as a pretext to invade the Middle East and build a police state in the United States!

I hear pastors spewing hatred for Arabs and Muslims, while praising apostate Israel. The Jewish Talmud teaches that Jesus' mother was savagely raped by a Roman solider, denying the virgin birth. The Talmud says Jesus was boiled in human excrement and urine. Why don't pastors expose the Jewish religion of Judaism? Shameful Evangelist John Hagee is so corrupt and bought off by Zionists that he says Jews don't need to be born-again, because they are special and have their own covenant with God. However, Jesus warned Nicodemus (a religious leader) that unless a man (including every Jew) is born again, he cannot enter into the Kingdom of God (John 3:3). Dr. Hagee says that Jesus never claimed to be the Messiah. Jesus did in fact claim to be the Messiah to the Samaritan woman at the well. John 4:25-26, “The woman saith unto him, I know that Messias cometh, which is called Christ: when he is come, he will tell us all things. Jesus saith unto her, I that speak unto thee am he.” John Hagee is a Zionist false prophet!

I am wearied with today's false churches. As long as the money is coming in, nearly all churches don't care about THE TRUTH. It is almost unheard of these days to hear a sermon on Hell, fire and damnation in a big mega-church. You'll never hear Joel Osteen preach on the Lake of Fire. That's how those groups got to be so big, by tickling people's ears and scratching their backs with weak-kneed sermonettes. Literally, America is dying because of the woeful lack of Bible-preaching.

There's nothing worse than a group of affluent people who horde a church like greedy dogs, like they own it instead of God. I wouldn't stay in a church for 5-minutes that is controlled by a board of directors and/or a pulpit committee, where the pastor is hen-pecked and not free to preach as he ought. Our churches are filled with self-righteous religious hypocrites, who are as phony as a 3-dollar-bill, haughty and arrogant, never having known the depths of sin nor the depths of God's love, grace and mercy. Thus, they are religious SNOBS! Truthfully, they are steeped in deep sin themselves (pride, arrogance, self-righteousness, hate, envy, gossip and judging), but they don't see it, unable to see the forest for the trees. Some of the rottenest people you'll meet are devout churchgoers. One day they're treating you like a brother, and when you fail to dot your i's and cross your t's (going along with their program), they treat you like they never knew you. That's the way many religions operate, and it is foreign to Biblical Christianity. The Bible does not teach anyone to join a religious denomination. A 501c3 business is not a church. What Is A Church?

I love a church that loves THE TRUTH! I love a church that has a bus ministry! I love a church that preaches, uses and promotes only the King James Bible. I love a church that fights against sin in their community. I love a church that stands against the Devil's corrupt Bible versions. I love a church that teaches women ought not wear pants. What a joke to hear a pastor teaching about a new form of modesty, while most of the women on church staff are wearing pants, and they think that is modesty because the pastor approves of it. What a sad joke! People are leaving the churches to find God and real Christianity. Most pastors are merely collecting a pay check. God give us some men of God, who are willing to work a secular job while pastoring, so he can preach THE TRUTH without worrying about getting paid. That's why Jesus said NO MAN can serve God and mammon (wealth). You must choose between money and God, it cannot be both. If money is a priority, truth will be compromised!

There's a lot of false Christianity in the world. If there's one place in all the world where THE TRUTH ought to be welcomed, it is in a New Testament Church. Tragically, most churches don't want to hear the truth, and so they reject it. GOD WANTS US TO SPEAK UP, BUT SATAN WANTS US TO SHUT UP! We'll, I'm speaking up for Jesus!!!!!!! You just keep using your counterfeit Bibles. You just keep promoting the satanic perversion of the plan of salvation, called, LORDSHIP SALVATION! You just keep promoting wolves in sheep's clothing like Rick Warren, Paul Washer, John MacArthur and Martin Luther. You just keep going along to get along with homosexuals, false prophets, reprobates and ecumenical devils. AS FOR ME AND MY HOUSE, WE WILL SERVE THE LORD! (Joshua 24:15).

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David J. Stewart #fundie #conspiracy jesus-is-savior.com

Unchristlike Christians hate conflict more than they hate evil.

Many independent Baptist Christians don’t want to be controversial about the King James Bible. They pride themselves in staying out of the fight and not causing any problems. Numbers 32:6 comes to mind...

Numbers 32:6, “And Moses said unto the children of Gad and to the children of Reuben, Shall your brethren go to war, and shall ye sit here?”

Why is it that only a small tireless handful of Christian men and women are defending the inspiration of the King James Bible? It is because only a small handful of believers love the Lord Jesus Christ anymore. Money, covetous, the lust for power, prestige, worldly success, the pleasures of life, intellectual arrogance, family pride, et cetera; have turned men's hearts away from THE TRUTH. They choose to go along to get along, rather than suffer with their brethren who are standing alone against government evil and crime, fighting alone against unrighteousness, and fighting alone for the inspiration of the King James Bible.

We need reinforcements on the frontlines, but most believers have forgotten that they are supposed to be SOLDIERS for Jesus Christ. 2nd Timothy 2:3, “Thou therefore endure hardness, as a good soldier of Jesus Christ.” Too many preachers are more interested in golf outings than they are about fighting in the trenches for their Lord. God called us to preach THE TRUTH. Jesus is THE TRUTH (John 14:6). The Bible is THE TRUTH (John 17:17). God wants us to fight for THE TRUTH. Good luck trying to tell THE TRUTH about the 911 attacks to any Christian today. THE TRUTH is that no plane ever struck building # 7. So why did it implode to the ground in 6.5 seconds? THE TRUTH is obvious if you can handle it. Those 3 buildings were detonated from within with carefully placed explosives. It was an inside job involving top brass in The White House, the Pentagon, the FBI, the JUSTICE DEPARTMENT, and other key government agencies.

They ran mock terrorist attacks on the morning of 911 to confuse everyone and provide a cover for their crimes. They did then exact same thing to cover for the London bombings. People can't handle the truth. The average fancy-pants, bigwig, richy-rich, pastor has too much to lose by telling THE TRUTH, or dare even investigate or question what really happened on 911. America's biggest pastors are like ostriches with their heads buried in the sand. No one cares, and so the criminals get bolder, more blatant in their crimes, and reward those who look the other way in apostasy. Today's pastors have absolutely no desire whatsoever to know THE TRUTH about anything except what benefits them personally and their friends.

They do nothing while America goes to Hell. Their attitude is to not get involved when they see a thief breaking into their neighbor's homes, because it doesn't involve them. They look the other way when their neighbor is being raped, tortured and killed, which is EXACTLY what we have done to the Iraqi people. Our government has exploited our children as paid mercenaries to steal, kill and pillage other sovereign nations. The reality which most people live in is all a fabricated lie from the time they are born. Most people cannot deal with my website because it is concentrated TRUTH. The average pastor cowardly turns his head away, covering up his cowardliness by saying that reaching more people for Christ is the solution, while he does nothing to expose the CRIMES being committed against his neighbors. Where dwelleth the love of God?

HP Mageson666 #fundie ancient-forums.com

In Buddhism the only being that makes any sense is Mara. He is the god of desire and fulfilments of material existence. Buddha just states have no desire's so that the energy of the elements that forms you will dissipate so when you die the psychic aspects of the elements will fizzle out on the astral and you will cease to exist as its desire that holds them together and gives them meaning. As Buddhism preaches you have no soul, no Atman. Thus you don't actually exist as a soul consciousness. What you perceive as yourself is illusion. Your just a recycling of five elements nothing else. When you realize this deeply its suppose to cause a psychic wave that releases the power of the elements causing the dissolution of existence upon your death. This is the meaning of enlightenment in Buddhism.

Nirvana in Buddhism means literally extinction. Buddhism states EXISTANCE is suffering and that EXISTANCE has an END. That end is EXTINCTION. So if you obtain Nirvana you literally cease to exist. Lights out forever. Mara is the god of existence and life. Buddha is the god of death and annihilation. Buddhism exists to bring death, destruction, demoralization and annihilation on all life. Buddha is actually an evil character that preaches hatred for all life and the purposes of life. Buddha preached an evil doctrine that is identical to the evil doctrine the fictional Nazarene preaches on the mount. This has been noted by scholars. There is nothing spiritual about Buddhism, its annihilationist nihilism.

This is why having Buddha statues is heretical in Buddhism the form of Buddha that of Gautama is actually Mara. Because its an existing being thus the realm of Mara. MA...water....RA...fire, the two elements that generate all existence forever. The actual Buddha is literally nothing, total extinction. Theravada Buddhism is stated to be the original sect and doctrine of Buddhism. What is obvious is there is a lot of talk about Buddhism and its becoming the new trendy, trend. But no actual mention of what Buddhism is as the core of its system and meaning. Just buzz words. The Buddhist Theocrats are also purposely pushing the trendy buzz words and feel goodism. Without telling anyone what Buddhism actually is. Read on to understand why.

Its simple Buddhism states existence is suffering and suffering has an end which sums up its four noble "truths." Which sums up the whole system. Suffering is existence....what is the opposite of existence? Extinction, what does Nirvana mean in Pali: EXTINCTION. Buddhism states there is no soul nor eternal I or self. The person is a collection of only five aggravates or elemental forces of a consciousness that simply reform into each new incarnation according to what karma has ripened a restacking of the same deck. These forces are held together by a karmic glue and desire is what causes karma to continue on and solidify the aggravates together keeping one in the wheel of suffering which is existence.

The Buddhist meditation system is basically void mediation and nothing else. Its a form of introspection that allows one to trace the roots of desire and dismantle them within the psyche. So that eventually when they die. The five aggravates will dissipate and they will cease to exist and become totally extinct. This is obtainment of Nirvana which means EXTINCTION. Buddhism states the biggest illusion and desire that causes one to stay in the cycle of existence thus life. Is the belief one has a soul an eternal I that goes on. Enlightenment in Buddhism is totally accepting the ridiculous belief that there is no self and one does not exist. Ones existence as a self is maya. This belief acceptance is believed to be the switch hit that dissolves the karmic bonds totally and allows for them to reach total Extinction, Nirvana upon death.

Buddhism is a materialistic, annihilationist death cult. That preaches a strange sentimental, radical egalitarianism which is why the current Liberal West finds it so appealing. The ideology preached in the Buddhist Dhammapada is identical to the Sermon On The Mount of Christianity. Which is an enemy program. Which points to who is behind Buddhism. Who benefits from removing spiritual knowledge and replacing it with a paleo, Communistic system. Now the Buddhist system furthered laid down the following. The science of mantra and astrology was banned. And the practices of Yoga [Kundalini Yoga is Yoga] where also banned from being taught. The original eight fold path which survived in Tantra which is the esoteric knowledge of the Veda. Was replaced by the Jainist eight fold path. Which leads to nowhere spiritual. The Tantra texts uniformly agree Mantra is the number one most important tool for enlightenment which Buddhism by order removes.

Its obvious what went on here. They removed the actual spiritual knowledge needed for enlightenment which is defined in the East and West as the ascension of the serpent [Kundalini Yoga] a large part of the Magnum Opus is based on astrology which in Vedic means the science of light. And replaced it with meaningless materialistic nonsense which leaves a person trapped in the cycle of suffering and does not free them from anything. They stay in a spiritual dormant state and hope for extinction of their being from all existence. As Nirvana. With the technical or symbolic language of Buddhism its stolen from the original Vedic tradition and corrupted into the opposite meaning. They changed the wine but kept the bottle. Its well established Siddhartha never existed. He is a stolen and rewrote Sun God.

Prof.Stuart Burgess #fundie answersingenesis.org

When a false god is called upon to solve gaps in knowledge, this is sometimes referred to as “god of the gaps.” For example, if someone did not know that ice is formed when water freezes and proposed that there was an “ice god” that occasionally causes ice to spontaneously appear, then they would be guilty of using a god-of-the-gaps explanation.
Biblical Creation Is Not a God of the Gaps

Atheists have often accused Christians of invoking God to fill in a gap in scientific knowledge. Even the great scientist Isaac Newton has been accused by atheists of using a god-of-the-gaps explanation when he said that the universe reveals evidence of design.1 But creationists like Newton do not believe in a god of gaps, but a God of absolute necessity. Newton recognized that the universe could not exist without the supernatural creative power of an almighty Creator.

Newton and most of the other founding fathers of science could see that the universe can only be fully explained with a combination of natural and supernatural explanations. Creationists only invoke God in origins when a supernatural action is necessary according to the laws of science. For example, according to the conservation of matter and energy (the first law of thermodynamics), it is impossible for a universe to come into existence without the supernatural intervention of an all-powerful being.

The Bible is scientifically correct when it states that divine supernatural power is required to create the universe (Genesis 1:1) and life (Genesis 2:7) and different kinds of creatures (Genesis 1:24). The Bible is also scientifically accurate that divine supernatural power is required to uphold all things (Colossians 1:17). Rather than being accused of superstition, the Bible should be commended for correctly identifying the areas of origins where a supernatural Creator is necessary.
Biblical Creation Is Not Anti-Science

Creationists are sometimes accused of ignoring scientific evidence and being anti-science. But belief in God in no way diminishes zeal for how life works. The great pioneer scientists of the 17th to 20th centuries were inspired by their belief in God. Likewise, modern-day scientists who are biblical creationists find their belief in a purposeful universe to be a help in their work.

Biblical creationists are always eager to learn from real scientific discoveries in every area of science. I personally have designed rockets and spacecraft for the European Space Agency and NASA using the latest scientific knowledge in physics and engineering. I have a patent on a special gearbox that was used on the world’s largest civilian spacecraft and have been awarded three national prizes for the development of technology for spacecraft.

The only “science” that creationists do not use is the speculative science of evolution that has nothing to do with useful operational science. Evolutionary ideas like “monkey-to-man charts” that supposedly chart human evolution are based on pure speculation and not useful to science and technology in any way.
Evolution Is Guilty of God-of-the-Gaps Explanations

Ironically, it is actually evolution that is blatantly guilty of god-of-the-gaps explanations. When secular biology books attempt to explain why creatures or plants have a certain design, the answer is almost always “evolution did it” or “natural selection did it” without any explanation as to how the design feature could evolve by chance.

This is what Dawkins has written about the origin of life:

We have no evidence about what the first step in making life was, but we do know the kind of step it must have been. It must have been whatever it took to get natural selection started . . . by some process as yet unknown.2

The above quote is a classic example of evolution being a god-of-the-gaps explanation. There is a total gap in what evolution can explain about the origin of life, and Dawkins invokes the god of evolution to fill in the gap and asserts that natural selection “must” have gotten started somehow. But natural selection by itself cannot create anything; it can only select from things already created.

When my daughters did a two-year advanced biology course at high school in the UK, the teachers kept saying that “evolution did this” and “natural selection did that” for the origin of features like fins and wings and hearts and lungs. Near the end of the course, one of my daughters challenged the teacher and said, “Miss, you keep saying ‘evolution did it,’ but you never actually explain how evolution did it.” The teacher had to confess that my daughter made a valid criticism, and the rest of class agreed.

Since evolution has no credible evidence, biology books use examples of adaptation as supposed examples of evolution. Darwin’s finches and resistant bacteria are held up as classic examples of evolution even though they are not evolution at all. These adaptations involve no new information, but simply a shuffling of existing genes.
Evolution Is Guilty of Being Anti-Science

Ironically, it is evolutionists, not creationists, who are guilty of ignoring scientific evidence.3 Over the last 70 years there have been many thousands of experiments with sophisticated equipment trying to create life in the laboratory from dead matter and energy.4 However, all of these experiments have clearly demonstrated that life cannot come about by chance. Evolutionists have a choice. Either they accept the laboratory experiments or ignore them and put faith in the god of evolution. They have chosen to ignore the evidence and exercise blind faith in chance.

Evolutionary philosophy holds back scientific progress by seeking false evolutionary explanations of origins. If you refuse to believe that a jumbo jet was designed, it will affect the way you investigate the complexity of the aircraft. If you believe that the aircraft evolved by chance, you will not have your mind open to possibilities of coordinated design. When the human genome was discovered to have far more information than expected, evolutionists immediately jumped to the conclusion that it was “junk” DNA because evolution predicts bad design not sophisticated design. However, subsequent work showed that the junk DNA was not junk at all, but highly coordinated information with important functions. That example shows how evolution holds back science.

A few years ago I spoke to a senior professor of microbiology at my university (who is an agnostic) and asked what he thought of the theory of abiogenesis—the theory that life can evolve from dead matter. He said the concept was a type of superstitious black magic. The biology professor had no religious bias and had been taught the dogma of evolution for decades, but he could still see that abiogenesis was not real science but so speculative that it could be called black magic.
The Missing Link: Yet Another Gap in Evolution’s Knowledge

When Darwin published his Origin of Species more than 150 years ago, one of the problems with his theory was that there was a missing link between man and apes. That missing link is still missing today despite extensive searches for fossil evidence of evolution all over the world. Fossil evidence shows that humans have always been strikingly different from apes. Humans walk on two legs, whereas apes walk on all four limbs. Humans have an arched foot, whereas apes have a flexible foot like a hand. Fossil evidence shows that no ape-like creature has ever had an arched foot for walking upright. As with every other aspect of evolution, the evolutionist ignores the gaps and encourages everyone to put their faith in the god of evolution.
Evolution Is Like a Magic Wand

I recently talked with another senior professor of microbiology at my university (another agnostic), and he made a surprisingly frank admission about evolution being a “god of the gaps.” He is not a creationist but like many biologists can see the serious weaknesses in the theory of evolution (although he keeps his views discreet for fear of losing his job). This microbiologist told me that evolution can be described as a “magic wand.” He said that he has noticed how even the experts say “evolution did this” and “natural selection did that” without any actual explanation being given and no demonstration in the laboratory. He said that the evolutionist can explain any aspect of origins by simply waving a magic wand and saying “evolution did it.”
Paying Homage to the God of Evolution

Evolution makes no useful contribution to scientific and technological advances. However, there is an unwritten rule in the modern secular biology community that after completing a scientific study (on a topic not linked to evolution), evolution is mentioned in the write-up as being the explanation for the origin of features of design. In the same way that a religious essay is finished by paying homage to a particular god, so in modern secular biology essays are finished by paying homage to evolution. I have personally worked on biology-related projects where this is exactly what has happened. The end result is that the community blindly believes that the god of evolution must be true.
A Battle of Worldviews

Biblical creation versus evolution is not “faith versus science,” but a worldview that includes God versus a worldview that has excluded God. Evolution is not a scientific theory because it has an unjustified assumption that God was not involved in origins. It is wrong for Christians to be accused of having a hidden religious agenda because biblical creation openly declares its worldview. Ironically, it is actually evolution that hides its atheistic agenda by pretending to be just science. If Isaac Newton and the other great scientists were here today, they would be astonished and saddened at the atheistic bias in modern secular science.
Giving Credit to the Creator

In modern society, a scientist is not allowed to say “God did it” for any aspect of creation, whether it is ultimate origins or the origin of any detailed design feature. The phrase “God did it” is seen as anti-scientific. But if God is the author of creation, then He deserves acknowledgement and credit for His work. And if God is the author of creation, then scientific investigation can only be helped by recognizing God as Creator.

If you refused to believe that a jumbo jet had been designed, then that would be dishonoring to the designers. How much more dishonoring it is when secular science and the secular media refuse to acknowledge that creation has a Designer. Thankfully there are many scientists today who are prepared to acknowledge the Creator despite the risk to their jobs and careers. Such scientists can have the satisfaction of knowing they stand shoulder to shoulder with the greatest scientists that ever lived such as Newton, Kepler, Pascal, Faraday, Maxwell, Kelvin, and Flemming. And by the way, the last three great scientists in this list knew of Darwin’s theory and rejected it—a fact that secular science has never publicized.

Various incels #sexist incels.co

(Cerebral hypoxia)
Professional rapists and breaking in a girl

I was reading about Chicago crime during the 1920s. To stock brothels, gangsters used to kidnap girls and lock them into rooms

From there they'd be "broken in" by "professional rapists". After a couple days, they would obey and then eventually would become completely willing prostitutes. They'd even enjoy it and compete with the other girls to seduce the johns

I'm sure 1920s Chicago wasn't the only place this was done and it's probably done now somewhere too.

(BabilKrali)
okey. I like that. Where should I send my CV for job application.

(7339er)
they only use chads to make these girls into whores. sex with an incel would make them suicide

(Jackson14)
Jesus Christ, could you imagine being the "break in" guys...

(Cerebral hypoxia)
@Jackson 14

Jesus Christ, could you imagine being the "break in" guys...

They even got paid for it. Honestly I could never dream of doing something like that. Rape isn't a turn on because half the appeal of sex is actually being desired tbh tbh

(WarriorSkull)
@Cerebral hypoxia

They even got paid for it. Honestly I could never dream of doing something like that. Rape isn't a turn on because half the appeal of sex is actually being desired tbh tbh

People imagine all rape is the type where some blonda stacy gets jumped by some man in the park while she was jogging alone and is beaten half to death and then raped while in her coma. These women were all scared and refusing until the pro rapist pulled out his big, plump and juicy Chad cock and the women's eyes grew big and their mouths began to water as much as their cunts.

(AfrikanCel)
JFL. I would do that if I were in the 1920s.

Admin3 #fundie evolutionfairytale.com

So Charles Lyell's Principles of Geology book changed Darwin's mind from creation to evolution. Charles Lyell was a known atheist who hated the creation story, and hated God. His book has these overtones written all through it. If Darwin would not have taken this book along on that voyage, he may never have come up with the idea of evolution. [...]

This is a perfect example of what has to happen to someone to believe in evolution. It takes you to lose your faith, if your a Christian. Even back from it's very beginning, where Darwin had to give up his own faith just to ponder the idea, and then write his book on it. And if you have never been a Christian, evolution requires you to take a stance against a God and His creation. Even though it is claimed that creation is not science, but a mere religion. So was fighting a mere religion taught in science 101? Or is the truth about science, and it's pet theory evolution, finally coming to light as a religion?

Coach #fundie christiannews.net

Actually, public schools teach direct opposition of Christianity. If I tell students they shouldn't have sex outside of marriage, I'd be told I was enforcing my beliefs on the students, yet when a boy wants to change in a girl's locker room, it's called equality.
I could show students a video of people having sex and that's educational, but if I say "the Bible says" I'm breaking the law and need to stop. If a student walks around the school and brags about how many girls he's been with, it's appropriate for a teacher to applaud him, but the student who walks around proclaiming the gospel of Jesus Christ, he must be stopped, because an evil world will tolerate the rape of women before hearing about Jesus Christ.
There's no such thing as being neutral when it comes to the truth.
He who is not with Me is against Me, and he who does not gather with Me scatters abroad. Matthew 12:30

You do the devil's bidding by calling good evil and calling evil good.

Isaiah 5:20 Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil;
Who put darkness for light, and light for darkness;
Who put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!
21 Woe to those who are wise in their own eyes,
And prudent in their own sight!

I have to agree, that by teaching Christianity, he's violating the law, but when the law goes against the world's sin, they change the law and celebrate breaking it. How many principals are there who drive drunk, use illegal drugs, etc.

Fact is Christians take consequences for what we believe, chaplains being discharged, a local college student being expelled for his Christian beliefs not fitting those of his college's counseling program, no refund, nothing. Pastors being arrested for public proclamation of the gospel in ur "free" nation.
The cost of following Christ is high, but consider the even greater cost of going against Him.

The wicked shall be turned into hell,
And all the nations that forget God. Psalm 9:17

Psalm 7:10 My defense is of God,
Who saves the upright in heart.
11 God is a just judge,
And God is angry with the wicked every day.
12 If he does not turn back,
He will sharpen His sword;
He bends His bow and makes it ready.

You're saying there is no right and wrong, it's all subjective, so the principal shouldn't teach Christianity in a school of violence, because you don't like it. So according to your thinking, there's nothing wrong with kids being molested if it fits the general social norms.
Overall, you're saying, I'm a pretty good person Proverbs 20:6 Most men will proclaim each his own goodness,
But who can find a faithful man?
You sound like the average American "I do right by my fellow man, pay my bills, I'm not a bad person" Not intending that in a mocking way, but consider this, you're a criminal in the highest court in the universe. God who is eternally existing Father, Son, and Spirit; created all the universe, not out of necessity, but His good pleasure to do so. In the grand scheme of all the universe,the planet earth is but a speck, you exist as a speck on a speck and insult the God who created and sustains your life. You've violated every law He's gave. You've done evil while ignoring conscious and calling it good.
Consider
Surely You set them in slippery places;
You cast them down to destruction.
19 Oh, how they are brought to desolation, as in a moment!
They are utterly consumed with terrors.
Deuteronomy 32:35 Vengeance is Mine, and recompense;
Their foot shall slip in due time;
For the day of their calamity is at hand,
And the things to come hasten upon them.

Why, so much anger, you have no idea what the Bible says, you just know you hate God. You are arrogant in your unbelief. You love your sin and the Bible tells the truth about you. Your heart is full of evil, lust, envy, hatred of good, but what I hear you saying is Hey coach stop worshipping Jesus and serve the sin nature, forsake the truth, return to the darkness, don't you quote that Bible, I don't like it. Because of Christ, I am no longer a slave to sin, no longer blinded to the truth, no longer addicted to porn. I couldn't go back to the world even if God said I wouldn't be judged for it.

Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law, having become a curse for us (for it is written, “Cursed is everyone who hangs on a tree”Galatians 3:13

Galatians 1:11 But I make known to you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached by me is not according to man. 12 For I neither received it from man, nor was I taught it, but it came through the revelation of Jesus Christ.

13 For you have heard of my former conduct in Judaism, how I persecuted the church of God beyond measure and tried to destroy it. 14 And I advanced in Judaism beyond many of my contemporaries in my own nation, being more exceedingly zealous for the traditions of my fathers.

15 But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother’s womb and called me through His grace, 16 to reveal His Son in me, that I might preach Him among the Gentiles, I did not immediately confer with flesh and blood,

Answer me this question, is it wrong to murder? How do you determine your answer?

God has perfect knowledge of all things, but unlike your neighborhood church throwing Super Bowl parties to impress your carnal mind, God converts sinners, giving them a new nature as He has mercy on whom He wills and whom He wills, He hardens.

Romans 9:13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.

In real life, the empty tomb is there, the place where the temple stood that Jesus said would be destroyed. The Bible says in the last days there will be mockers, men will be lovers of themselves, etc. Those who desire to live godly lives are persecuted in some way, evil men and imposters grow worse and worse.
Research how the apostles died, tell me what you find prior to your next foolish statement, tell me if you'd endure that to defend your atheism.

Yes, I could see how that would be the conclusion of someone who's never read the Bible. Your willfull ignorance doesn't excuse the fact that you will stand before the Lord Jesus Christ, but you assume that by mocking and denying the truth, it goes away.
Jesus said "Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words never will" Consider how many revisions the average textbook goes through, yet the Bible's truth is unchanging. Every prophesy has been fulfilled exactly as prophesied, the apostles suffered immense persecution as Jesus said they would. Believers today suffer immense persecution and testify of being radically transformed by the power of the gospel.
I bear personal testimony of the gospel's transforming power. I was full of cursing and bitterness, envy, and perverted lust, but God has transformed me and though I am not perfectly sinless, nor will I be in this lifetime, I thank God that He's redeemed me from the depths of my sinfulness, so the idea of the Bible being fiction is completely foolish. You mock a holy God and praise a beverage brand, while cursing the God who gave and sustains your life. Repent and believe on Jesus Christ.

You can hate the truth, that doesn't change it, fact is God, who is infinitely holy commands all men everywhere to repent. You're a slave to sin and serve the desires of your master, the devil, as I once did, but have been set free by the power of Jesus Christ, who took on flesh and endured the wrath of God on behalf of sinners. You hate a man for proclaiming that truth and defend those who encourage human sacrifice to their false gods (I'm almost certain, you can't deny this)
As it is written:
There is none righteous, no, not one; There is none who understands; There is none who seeks after God.
They have all turned aside; They have together become unprofitable; There is none who does good, no, not one.
Their throat is an open tomb; With their tongues they have practiced deceit; The poison of asps is under their lips
Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness
Their feet are swift to shed blood;
Destruction and misery are in their ways;
And the way of peace they have not known.
There is no fear of God before their eyes. Romans 3:10-18

You are condemned and awaiting judgement, I assure you it is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

Whoever believes in Him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
And this is the condemnation, that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
For everyone practicing evil hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his deeds should be exposed. John 3:18-20

Your god is the god of this evil age, not the one true god, it's obvious that you're faithful to him, but I warn you, he'll be cast into the lake of fire at the judgement throne of Jesus Christ, along with everyone not written in the book of life. Repent of your sins and turn to Christ, the one who has the power to cast body and soul into hell, whom you've mocked your entire life, in spite of the fact that He's given you life and can take it away in an instant. Before you say "oh you're trying to scare me into believing", consider the fact that false converts will be cast into the lake of fire, many of whom go to church and appear to be godly. So unless you be converted, you will suffer the wrath of God that abides on you currently.
Jesus Christ, the sinless Son of God took on human flesh, was born into the world He had made of a virgin in a stinking stable, was despised and rejected by those who claim to serve God. He performed miracles, clearly seen by multitudes of healing, casting out demons, raising the dead. He was betrayed by one of His disciples, suffered the wrath of God at the hands of sinners and rose from the grave to be the mediator for all who will believe on Him. Why couldn't God just forgive people without Christ's suffering?, because that would make God unjust. Because God is good, He must punish every bit of evil. Because God is eternal, the offense is greater. If a boy lies to his teacher, he gets a 0, he lies to his parents, he gets grounded, lies to police, he gets arrested, but all sin is against an infinitely holy God. There's no neutral ground with God, you're either a savant of God having been saved by grace through faith in Jesus Christ, or His enemy.

Romans 5:8 But God demonstrates His love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.
Christ died for the ungodly that would later repent and believe on Him and one is saved by trusting Him alone, not "good" deeds, not reforming one's behavior, not repeating a prayer, not being baptized, no by faith alone in Jesus Christ. I suggest you start with reading the Bible. By mocking Christianity on a Christian site, you waste your life, which is as a vapor in comparison to eternity. I speak as one raised on the religion of the age along with some Christian teaching, who held to being a Christian and repeated tons of prayers, but God saved this religionists out of his sin, out of his bondage to pornography, I don't say that as a sob story, but as praise to the all powerful God, who is gracious to whomever He wills to be, not because of my so-called good deeds, but in spite of them. To God alone be the glory and He will be glorified in either saving you for Himself or casting you into the lake of fire. If you could but get a glimpse of His infinite worth and how you a finite creature have insulted Him. Repent and trust the Lord Jesus Christ. Have no confidence in yourself. You must be born again, by the sovereign grace of our Lord Jesis Christ.

This man is violating his role as a principal, doesn't he know there's a separation between church and state? Or maybe, he recognizes that God is sovereign and we ought to obey Him rather than men.

Laurie Ditto #fundie destinyimage.com

In a vision, Jesus took me to Hell. It was like a terrible, life-changing accident. You know how when an accident happens, you keep replaying over in your mind what you could have done differently? I have replayed August 28th over and over at least 1,000 times, if not more. “Oh God, what did I do wrong? Why did this happen to me?”

Because I have looked at this “accident” so much, I know many little details that have been etched into my memory. Many of them are unimportant, but I have memorized them nonetheless. I have looked for every little decision or detail that resulted in the worst day of my entire life—and possibly the most life-giving day for myself.

It is important to note that what I share here all happened instantly. It wasn’t an orderly progression, but I’ve tried to lay it out in an orderly fashion here.

How it Began
I worked for the evangelism department at the International House of Prayer, now called the Kansas City Evangelists’ Fellowship (KCEF). That morning we were in our weekly two-hour evangelism meeting.

As the meeting began with worship, I was standing at the back of the room. Before I can enter into worship in a heart-connect way, let alone in spirit and truth (see John 4:24), I have to tell my body, You will worship God. So that day I raised my hands to God and I sung loudly to Him. I engaged my mind to worship Jesus by contemplating the beauty of His love and the magnificence of His dying on the Cross for me. I let my emotions worship Him, which allows my heart to open to Him.

The worship leader was helping us pray for our lost family members, friends, neighbors, and co-workers. To really get a sustained heart for lost people, I have found I have to make it personal. I have to truly think about what it would be like for my lost family members to not make it to Heaven. When we think about someone we love not being in Heaven, it creates a real sadness and if we think about it long enough, it creates a desperation. These thoughts allow us to identify with a real emotion for the people we love. Because it’s such a negative emotion to experience, most people don’t go there. Evangelists are willing to expose their hearts to let God’s truth and urgency shape us. We don’t like the down emotion either, but by allowing it we become more tenderized to the eternal truth for lost souls. Then, sharing about Jesus becomes essential and very personal.

As we sang an evangelistic song, I felt the presence of holiness come into the room. The song gripped me and just seemed to add to the excitement I already felt. The music was captivating and took me to what I will call a worship place. The feeling in the room was the same as other times that I had been invited to come away with the Lord to visit Heaven. I knew I was being invited to go in the spirit. The holiness had come for me. I said, “Yes."

Transported to Hell
Then, all of a sudden, the front of the room opened up. I instantly opened my eyes and saw the transformation as it happened. The Hell realm unlocked and I heard massive gates creak open and I felt extreme heat enter the room. I looked with my eyes wide open and I saw Hell through the gates. I saw it! I was shocked that it was right there. Wasn’t it supposed to be in the center of the earth or below us? To say I panicked is an understatement!

Worship and prayer continued around me. The people were oblivious that Hell was at the front of the room. I watched those ominous gates open as I watched the people worshiping. The two places, the meeting room and Hell were together.

I frantically looked to see who might help me. The others didn’t see the gates, hear that sound, or feel the heat. Instinctively, I started screaming. I felt the sound of fear coming from my own body. I knew that my spirit was being demanded to submit. As I screamed, my spirit was also making a sound that deeply hurt my heart and brain while it also panicked every blood cell in my body.

Something came flying past the gates of Hell. It was coming for me. It was like an arm without fingers that grabbed me and sucked me into Hell. The arm was very powerful. It was attached to me like a suction cup in the area of my chest and began dragging me further into Hell. As quickly as it shot out from Hell, it just as quickly moved back. I tried to pull back and break the hold it had on me but it was too powerful.

Before I could blink, I knew this—it was too late. The gates slammed shut with a terrible sound of finality. I knew there was no man on this side or that who could ever open those gates. Only Jesus could because He owns Hell.

Inside the Gates
I passed through gates that trapped the darkness inside. The first thing I knew when I got there: I was in Hell. The realization that I was in Hell was unquestionably shocking and beyond hurtful! I don’t know how to explain just how panicked I was, although you may understand a bit if you’ve ever been lost.

It was like that but more dire. I was like a child and I had no plan. I panicked like no other panic I have ever experienced in my entire life. In fact, I knew that if I could add up every panic I have ever felt, it didn’t come close to what I was experiencing.

Someone said to me, “Laurie, you are in Hell!”

“Oh my God!” I answered.

I knew many things all at once. As I break them down to explain each one individually, it gives the false appearance that it was a slow progressive onslaught. But everything was immediate. For the sake of explanation, I knew three things first—I was in Hell, eternally, for unforgiveness.

Once the understanding of the judgment arrived in my heart there were four distinct pains:

Water—Immediately, all the water left my body, creating a desperate, painful need.
Bone marrow—In an instant my bones turned black.
Breath—The first breath allowed fire to touch everything in me and be carried throughout my body.
Agreement—Agreeing with the judgement that Hell is where I belonged removed my humanity.
Before that day, I had not studied much about Hell. I believed it was real because I believe the whole Bible is true, but I didn’t think that anybody like me would ever go there. I also knew about the Bible’s stance on unforgiveness. Although I knew, it was just easier to hold on to unforgiveness. I mean, with time, unforgiveness had become part of me. I would never have thought unforgiveness could take a person to Hell. My view was swiftly changed.

A Relational Problem
In Hell, I knew and understood the Bible perfectly. Every word of God that I had ever read was now completely clear. And I knew exactly how much I had disobeyed in comparison to my biblical understanding. I was keenly aware of everything about myself and my body. Stuff like my blood moving, my eyes seeing, and how all parts of my body work. I have never been in such awe of the creation of a human body. Everything I learned in eighth grade science I recalled perfectly. But even more, a supernatural knowledge filled in the blanks that I did not already know.

My knowledge about Hell, from the Scriptures, was also at the front of my awareness. I knew that everything I had read was true. All heartbreakingly true. I knew all of the scriptures on Hell, how much information was provided to me in the Bible about it, and how those scriptures fit with the rest of the Bible. I was fully awakened to the terrible reality of this place. The panic of knowing that I was in Hell grew. I was not a visitor.

I understood that Hell is a relational issue, not a problem to solve like a math question. A person cannot get out of Hell if they acquire the right answer. Hell was created because of a relational issue. One of the most important things I knew is that Hell wasn’t created because of human sin and we don’t go to Hell because of one particular sin. We all have sinned (see Rom. 3:23). This isn’t just a sin issue. It is a relational issue. Because of the Devil and his disobedience, disrespect, and disregard of God, Hell was created.

We think someone goes to Hell because they sinned, but really it is about disobeying and disrespecting God. The Bible says, “Kiss the Son, lest He be angry, and you perish in the way” (Ps. 2:12). That kiss is about love, affection, and obedience. We think that because people mess up, God sends them to Hell. But that is not true. How can we think God is bad? People go to Hell because they refuse to be in a relationship with God. Hell is about a refusal to love God and have a relationship with Him.

Although God literally forgave me everything, I chose to refuse to forgive certain ones. I was like the unmerciful servant in one of Jesus’ parables (see Matt. 18:21-35). When the servant refused to forgive the debt and stood before the king again, he was called wicked. It wasn’t because he simply made a mistake; it was because he wouldn’t enter into the relationship of mercy and grace and obedience to the King. It wasn’t only about what a person does; it is all about who they are in their heart.

Michael Glatze #fundie wnd.com

Homosexuality is a problem. Let’s just be clear: Everybody knows that homosexuality is not the same thing as heterosexuality. But what not everybody understands is that homosexuality is not a perversion of heterosexuality. Homosexuality is a perversion of the correct relationship between God and His creation, man.


Thus, since God is male and His creation – man – is male, the appropriate relationship (under the Headship of Christ) is to be satisfied in spiritual union with God. That is why Paul, in 1 Corinthians 6, says we have “become one spirit” with God. And, it is also why Paul describes, in Romans 1, the pattern of degradation that takes place when men turn from God. Ultimately, it results in homosexuality, because the man – seeking for a spiritual fellowship with God – positions himself either as a “god” for another man, or in the position of worshiping another man as “god.”

That is the deification of man spoken of clearly in Plato’s “Symposium,” in which a dialogue among seemingly learned men arrives at the conclusion that homosexuality is the highest form of love. No, it is not just an alternative to heterosexuality; it is something else, entirely.

In fact, during biblical times, the vast majority of Rome’s emperors had homosexual relationships with men, all while also “using” women as procreative slaves, to be sure. In a culture of emperor worship, homosexuality = Man-as-God … ring any bells?!

I don’t think it’s coincidental that President/Emperor Obama is referred to by some as “the first gay president,” and he has no qualms weaving together “gay rights” with “civil rights” in a single breath, positioning himself even further as the Great Human Emancipator (which causes gays to love him viscerally – even if they don’t agree with every aspect of his policies).

Christians – yes, you – we do have a solution. The solution is found in the same place where it was found back when Paul encountered a society that deified Man through homosexual “worship.” Men lead society, and women follow. What men elect to do will have an effect on the responses of women. That, also, is the natural order of things, which is why many have suggested that the feminist movement was, simply, a natural reaction to the lack of strong masculinity in their homes and in the culture around them. Women need strong men; are you, men, willing to be one?!

To be strong, as men, Christian men must understand that homosexuality is a direct raping of the relationship between Man and God – NOT, as some have suggested, a perfectly viable sexual “choice” open to the same freedoms that any other “consensual choice” seems to have in our relativistic society. Sure, Christian truth may not become the law of our land any time soon (though it certainly could), but Christian truth can certainly become the law of our lives – and it should, if we hope to make an impact on our world!

God gifted me with a personal walk through homosexuality to the other side. Now, today, I’m happy and living a good, God-honoring life. I am satisfied with my God; thus, He is satisfied with me. And in that satisfaction I am able to share with people the kind of Christianity I know honors my Lord and Savior, the kind of Christianity that offers hope, healing and promise to people who seem to have forgotten that any of those three things could even exist any longer.

I hope that some, considering how to respond to the Boy Scouts fiasco of the past week, will reconnect with their true, biblical Christian masculinity, a satisfying relationship between God and man that grows, and grows, and grows, as the days go by. Never let culture dictate your view on homosexuality; only let God open your eyes to the truth … and do not be afraid to acknowledge it when He does.

Anonymous Coward #conspiracy godlikeproductions.com

I'll tell you a secret....the NWO is exposing themselves to bring in the actual NWO, which you will believe is good.

The Hegelian dialect. Create a problem, let the friction grow until the masses "wake up" to it. Then let the "NWO" fall, so that the actual world system can be put into place while the world rejoices at their "victory" in escaping the evil clutches of the globalists.

They are letting you see behind the curtain, but that curtain is just the top layer.

This is how it is done. They have created the enemy, the elite. They are now letting the worl, including all religions, creeds and color, come together to form the solution.

If you want a good example, look at Alex Jones. he talks about being a Christian, yet he says all religions have validity and he supports to each their own, rather than telling the Truth of Jesus Christ.....that we are all sinners and that without Christ we cannot be saved. He teaches on human potential and how great we can be.

They are using this paradigm to bring in the actual world order, they will dispose of the one they are showing you right now, and let you believe that you have won, and that humanity is amazing and good.

This is why Christian's are called to be witnesses and to speak the true gospel. We are not to be a part of this world, but to work for the Kingdom of Heaven and leading people to salvation through Jesus Christ.

The united religion coming will be headed by the Pope. The united world government will be headed by a peacemaker who the world will love and honor, as he will save the day for humanity.

Jesus spoke of not being decieved as a major sign. Do not be deceived. Repent of your sins, accept Christ and His sacrifice and be saved. Tell people the true gospel and stand firm on the word of God. Time is short.

Chris Aldridge #magick caldridge.net

In The Presence of the Gods: The Night That Changed Our Lives Forever

This is an experience I do not normally talk about, because I don't want to come off as a bragger. I always say that you can tell the difference between people who have had legitimate spiritual experience and those who haven't, because those who have will not brag, or try to use it to score religious, social or financial points. Those of us who have had real experiences in these realms, don't go around blowing our own trumpets. The only time I tell this story is when it is necessary to describe why my wife and I became worshipers of the Greek Gods. It's not something someone will usually find me discussing or trying to spread around on a consistent basis, because I don't feel the need to be personally validated or convinced of my experience, nor do I care if others believe me or not. In fact, the only reason I am telling it now on my blog and website here is because I feel I should make a reasonable post about it for my readers. They read my life story in my autobiography, but it doesn't describe this massive change, so I am going to tell one of the greatest stories of my personal life.

The Greek Gods are not merely myths as many consider them to be. They were real before and during ancient times, and they remain real in our own time, immortal and deathless, and the rulers of heaven, Earth, and the worlds and realms beyond those. Nothing escapes their authority or their blessings, for it is theirs, and always has been and will be.

The event took place shortly after my wife and I, my fiancee at the time, moved into our first apartment together in North Carolina in the summer of 2009. At that time, she was a Wiccan of ten years and leaned more toward a Norse Pagan persuasion, but she also knew of the Greek Gods and considered herself to have a relationship with Athene. I considered myself to be a "Christian Wiccan," or more accurately, a "Christian Witch." Even though I knew of the Greek Gods as the only alternative religion I had heard of through my years in school, I retained the Christian belief system I had been exposed to all my life and combined it with the emerging practices of magick and witchcraft that I so dearly loved.

Because we had just moved in together and completely left our old lives, we had little money. I was unemployed and my wife only had a part time retail job. So we had to go to thrift stores to get the things we needed for our apartment, which there's no shame in at all. Many times, thrift stores can have very nice things. Although this particular thrift, which shall remain nameless, was unlike any I had ever entered. When you walked in, you could sense that there was just something very, very negative, even perhaps evil, about the place. It just was not a pleasant feeling at all, but rather a feeling of extreme uneasiness. It's not unreasonable to think that such places could possess negative influences, energies or beings because you never know where the items therein originated. They could have been involved in violence and other bad things, or could be the property of a deceased who is very angry that their stuff is being sold. There are several problems that could come with random belongings of others that have been taken or discarded. Nevertheless, we really didn't give it much thought at the time. We just wanted to get a table and chairs for our kitchen, and after a short time, we found a set and went on our way back home.

On into that evening was when things turned weird and terrifying for us. A presence began to manifest in our home which can only be described as a serious and aggressive haunting. Some kind of spirit or negative influence had entered our home, probably having followed or latched onto us from the item we came into contact with and then attacked when we took it to our home. Whatever this thing really was, it made itself known by slamming doors and filling us with fear, saying that it was not going to leave until death was brought on us. Not only could we feel and hear its hostility, we could hear its voice and it talked to us as plain as any person would.

Me being highly Christian, I began an exorcism, calling on Jesus and also Saint Michael, the biggest enemy of Satan, to kick the spirit out. However, not a single prayer of mine worked. In fact, the situation became more and more desperate with each passing minute because the creature grew more and more powerful, or so it seemed. One thing is certain, it laughed at me in everything I did and every prayer I prayed.

My wife told me that she could tell that the spirit feared the old Gods, and how she knew that I did not know. Perhaps she was closer to the Greek Gods than I was at the time. But at this point, I was willing to try something different because nothing I was doing was working. So I decided to turn my prayers to the Greek Gods, particularly to Athene and Apollon. Athene is the great warrior Goddess and defender and Apollon is the God of Light who averts evil and purifies ill. So I prayed to them, my wife joining me, simply asking for them to please help us. After what seemed like a few seconds of praying to these Greek Gods, my wife described an image of a lady with a spear and a male of light appearing and confronting the spirit. To quote her exactly, "Athene grabbed him by his tail," and stabbed him, then Apollon's light filled the area and cleansed away all the impurities. Then, almost as fast as it had begun, the time of terror came to an end.

Needless to say, my wife and I cuddled closely in the bed for the rest of the night, sometimes fearing the spirit might return, but it never did. It was gone, and so was our former religions. The next day, without even verbally confirming it to ourselves, we became ancient Greek. It was a given after our experience, especially with me, because the god I had spent years serving and defending never showed up, while the Gods I had given nothing to, gladly extended their hands in help in our time of desperate need.

I knew that each time I would tell this story, there would be Christians who would not only tell me I wasn't a real Christian, but that what really happened was not that the Greek Gods came and rescued us, but that it was actually Satan tricking us, that he was the one who removed the demon of his to trick us. The theory of this ultimate conman is reverted to sometimes more than the name of his counterparts. But what I found to be interesting about this claim was the fact that Jesus said the exact opposite in the bible, because Jesus plainly stated that Satan cannot cast out Satan, because it would divide his kingdom (Mark 3:22-27). By the words of their very own religious and spiritual icon, no, it wasn't a trick by this alleged Satan, because Satan would not drive out his own presence. The simplest answer is probably the right one, that the Greek Gods are real, they are authorities of goodness, and they came to restore goodness and order once more as they have done for so many years in Greek religious belief.

In the Goodness of the Dodekatheon,
Chris.

Sam Nelson #racist realjewnews.com

Benjamin Freedman, RIP, your hope continues:

Using the word Jew will not suffice, what must happen is the total destruction of the Jews “Holocaust” myth. The Banker King, ie, King of the world, owns Reuters and the Associated Press, from which all other News and other Media get their talking points, and, world history. As long as the lie that is the Jews’ Holocaust lie, ie, there were/are no blue stains on any of the walls of the so called gas chambers, therefore no gassing could have taken place, using Zyklon B, or any other gas.

No blue stains, no residue, still the Press and the talking heads in Hollywood and on Television say six million Jews, gassed to death, by the white Germans, WW2? We, who are the truth tellers, we, must cry out even louder: NO JEWS’ HOLOCAUST. We must cry louder, longer, until the whole world hears our cry, then the Liar’s back will be broken, humanity’s freedom from the Jew insured.

As it is with the Jew-owning the discourse, every chance and I do mean every chance the Jew gets, somewhere in every documentary, in every movie, in every conversation, always the lie of the “six million” pops up, comes out, is maneuvered into the stew. The stew white children eat up like it is Mom’s home cooking.

Little children are taught this lie until they learn to hate their own kind, so they run off with other species of humans not like their own, so they become self-haters, so they deny their own gender, so they trumpet the lies of the Jews as if the lies are the truth. The first step to freedom from the liars that are the Jews, and the Gentiles working for the Jews, is separation from the Jews’ Holocaust lie. After that, the Jew has nothing left to hide behind.

Separation begins with the children, a generation of white American children not burdened down by the lie that is the Jews’ Holocaust lie, would go a long way toward breaking the hold the Jews and their Gentile Politicians and Judges have over US and other nations wherein white people are the majority.

As long as the Jews’ Holocaust Lie prevails over all the world, the whole world will be under the foot of the Jewish King in England. As long as this, there can be no justice, there can be no justice without truth, all the truth, nothing but the truth. Without Justice, there can be no freedom, this should be so clear to any concerned about the future of their children and, the future of the world. Liberty, finds its soul in Justice, the right to tell the truth, is the epitome of Justice.

I ask of every writer, of you Brother, I ask, we all do like the crooked Jews do, we too should mention the “six million” as the lie it is and in everything we write, find a slot to slip it in, teach the truth as they teach the lie. Swamp, not like draining the swamp, swamp, as in filling the swamp, filling the swamp with the truth about WW2, proving the “six million” lie to be a lie, in every other sentence we write, pound it, drive, wear it out and then start again, until the whole world of people know: WE, HAVE BEEN HAD BY THE LIE THAT IS THE SIX MILLION…

We, like the destruction of Jericho, we must surround the lie that is the six million and blow our horns of truth until the walls of the fortress they hide behind, that is, the Jews’ Holocaust Lie, falls down to the ground, the enemy inside, his chest laid bare, his lies proved to be lies, his very heart outside his body, easy to cut off and cut up.

We must tear their house down, their house is the construct that is the Jews’ Holocaust Lie. If we go into the schools, willing to face the Judges who are along with the Police, the Jews’ executioners, if we do it in a way that there are just too many of us to jail, that we are too persistent to resist, that we fill the schools with the sweet taste of truth, until the children beg for it.

Then and only then will we have Liberty, then and only then can we be Free, then and only then will this ship of lies that are the Jews and their six million lie, be turned around and headed toward a better port, a port wherein we, the people, can have Justice — and by Justice we will find our Liberty, again. We don’t need the Politicians to do this, we just need to do it.

Lady Checkmate #fundie disqus.com

Lady Checkmate's headline: "Marriage: Jesus Christ defined marriage between a man and a woman"

Clearly, based on scripture (Matthew 19:4-6), Jesus Christ defined marriage between a man and a woman, thus showing that He does not condone gay unions because they are not of God. Anything that conflicts with God's word is not of God. The word says if you love God you will obey Him. Anyone who does not love God is not a Christian. There are NO real Christians that are supporting that which God has called unholy, shameful, sin and an abomination. And that includes ALL sin and abominations, because Chrsitians seek to please God and not ourselves nor man. A house divided can not stand and God is not divided against Himself (Jesus and God are One). And God's people obey Him rather than man.

If anyone is teaching a false or watered down doctrine, then you need to get away from that wolf-in-sheep's clothing and false teacher as soon as possible. Disagreement is NOT hate. We share Truth because we love others. Christians must share Truth so that the lost who want Truth may be set free. I have given you Truth from God's word here. Those who rebel have chosen their own end and that is between them and God. They will bow before Him, declare Him Lord of all and be judged for their rebellion. And if any ave read or heard the truth and willingly rebelled against God, they are responsible for that word, their rebellion will be judged and their blood is on their own heads...the real Christians who spoke God's Truth, our hands are clean. Luke-warm liars, wolves-on-sheep's clothing who pervert the word will have a lot of blood on their hands and they too will be judged for disobeying God.

Real Christians speak the Truth and will NEVER stop as our desire is toward our God to please and obey Him. Man's opinion, lies, foolishness, etc. is irrelevant. Only God's Truth matter.

Selah.

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Don't forget to RECOMMEND. Lets get the Truth out so that Light may shine bright in this dark place and Jesus Christ may be glorified. Even if the discussion is closed, please still RECOMMEND.

deepfreezeband1985 #fundie imdb.com

(from the board discussing the upcoming movie Ouija. About using an actual ouija board.)


Ms-DonnaBray
I have never been a religious person and was once a guitarist in a heavy metal band from the 80s. So you could say that playing music with dark tones could be considered satanically influenced even though at that time I didn't realize it. Music like (Ozzy, Motley Crue, Judas Priest, Black Sabbath) ect.
I have always tried to live as a good person as that is where my heart has always led me. But then I made the dreadful mistake later in life of using that damn board it has changed me forever, in knowledge I have searched out to try to fix this sin of engaging the spirit world.
In old pictures of me growing up I never seen spirit orbs but after using the board in 95 I have captured spirit orbs in so many pictures of my family, orbs mostly with my daughter.
Throughout all this I have learned a great deal of why there is an importance of reading the bible. God and Jesus are not here to make us slaves or control us but rather guide us thru a safe path of peril this world contains. To teach us the real meaning of the question WHY. (WHY = LOVE), love has many meanings, I think the Apostle Paul written them best in his letters to the many churches.

I want to point out that so many people today think God, Jesus and religion are the same but they are not. God never created religion and Jesus actually argued against the religious leaders while he walked the earth, Jesus didn't agree with the religious leaders teachings. It was those same religious leaders that were the ones that had Jesus put to death. Religion is man made, not God made. When man created religion the evil spiritual forces twist religion to make those who have no understanding of the bible and the world then hate God because of religion. Does the Devil exist? Yes very much so. Lucifer has many he commands to destroy us. Why does he do this? Lucifer is angry against God and wants to prove to God we are inferior, he wants to justify his actions in the things he did in heaven and the destruction of the human race. He tried to make himself a God above the REAL God, that was why he was cast out of heaven.
I'm not a preacher by any means but now rather a student of life. God definitely saved me from hell and he will do the same for all who search him. God is a God of love, he wants us all to have a good life but not a sinful one. I found this out from the perils I put myself and family in when opening spiritual doors that lead to death.
I hope that what I write here will open the eyes of ones why try to understand what I have written so to understand the world we live in and the spiritual world that is around us all the time. Both worlds exist together but one is the physical plain and the other is a spiritual dimension that is made if energy. We are bound by time, the spirit world isn’t.
God bless

John Ziegler #fundie mediaite.com

Behind the Scenes, It’s Clear Chicago Media and Police Doubt Jussie Smollett’s Story

I can’t recall a large crime story where there was a bigger gap between what the police and media are saying publicly, and what they expressing behind the scenes, than the saga involving the recent alleged hate crime against actor Jussie Smollett. Similarly, there may not be a story where you can tell more by what has not happened, in comparison to what actually has occurred.

The current public stance of the Chicago police is that earlier this month, at 2 a.m. on a very cold Chicago night, Smollett was the victim of what appears to be a heinous hate crime where he was physically attacked by two men, and humiliated due to his race, homosexuality, and possibly his opposition to President Donald Trump. The Chicago media, in official reports, has largely treated that narrative as legitimate, while chronicling the complete lack of suspects and corroborating evidence as more of a frustration than any indication that something else might be going on here.

Behind the scenes, however, based on conversations I have had with multiple people covering the story, there is a radically different take on what really did happen to Smollett. In short, there is near unanimity among police sources that Smollett’s story is very likely not true. And that even the media outlets still regurgitating the current “party line” don’t really believe it.

In my experience, most people are very bad at reading the tea leaves in these types of situations, and it often leads to very inaccurate interpretations of what is really going on. This case has several important elements which, if you know what to look for, make evaluating the actions of the police and news media really rather easy.

The first thing you need to understand about this situation is that, because of Smollett’s persona and the nature of his allegation, no one in law enforcement or the news media wants any part of publicly questioning his story. Everyone knows that if they make any sort of negative implication against a black, gay, liberal, celebrity, victim of a horrible hate crime, that they will be roundly and severely attacked, regardless of whether they turn out to be correct.

As a conservative, I look at this as his Political Correctness Force Field. Smollett’s protection here is literally about as strong as it gets, especially in Chicago, a city that has a large black population and is extremely liberal.

So, in this hyper-sensitive media environment, any sort of deviation from the accepted storyline by the police or the news media, much like if your seven-year-old kid is showing subtle signs they no longer believe in Santa Claus, must be given exponentially greater significance than it normally would. Here, both the police and news media in Chicago have provided plenty of those types of veiled indications, both publicly and privately.

Among other things, the police have made it very clear they have not yet found any proof of an attack, despite having almost all of Smollett’s movements on surveillance video. They have disclosed that Smollett would not give over his cell phone to verify his timeline of events. They even published photos of “persons of interest” that they had to know were going to be universally mocked for being obviously irrelevant.

In my view, none of those important revelations would have been made public in the way that they were, unless there was extreme suspicion within the police force that Smollett’s story was not fully accurate.

By extension, media figures would not be being told by their police sources, as I have been told is currently happening both routinely and with vigor, that the authorities are acting on the assumption that they will never find any evidence to fully substantiate Smollett’s story. This isn’t just happening via idle speculation either, the police are doing so with great specificity, even including an alternative theory for what really happened (current attempts to find the origin of the rope found around Smollett’s neck long after the event was over are believed to be the most likely game-changer, if there ever is one in this case).

As for the Chicago media, a couple of local television reporters are apparently using Twitter as a confessional for information about the case that their stations currently fear to air. Rob Elgas of the Chicago ABC affiliate, and Rafer Weigel of the Fox station (which carries Smollett’s show Empire) have continually updated the developments, or lack thereof, in a way that paints a much different picture from the one that viewers would see on an actual newscast.

It is very obvious that if one major news outlet in Chicago had the guts to be the first to openly discredit Smollett’s story, the others would soon follow the leader. But because the risk of being wrong in this situation (see Smollett’s PC Force Field), there is just no incentive to take that dive until and unless the police finally make a definitive statement.

I have written previously about my skepticism about the case, and speculated that this story would quickly disappear because there is no way it would get conclusively solved, and no one in authority will have any appetite for the perils of debunking a story from someone like Smollett. However, Weigel tweeted out some rather candid thoughts yesterday which gave me slight hope that maybe we will actually get to the truth of this matter (though, if that truth is indeed as those closest to the story suspect that it is, the news cycle created by that shocking disclosure will probably be exceedingly short).

CH #fundie heartiste.wordpress.com

The Fake News Media menstruates over Trump’s “lies” but what they don’t see is that their agenda is driven by psychological projection of their own Big Lies onto Trump, who has committed the sin of telling Big Truths, which is a crucifix and garlic to the vampires of the media who traffic in pushing a decades-old Narrative that defies reality and sucks the lifeblood of healthy, humanized nationhood.

Trump’s very existence — and by extension the existence of an Army of Shitlords who voted for him — is a corporeal rebuke to the Lords of Lies. As I’ve written, Trump’s hyperbole is on the level of little fibs meant to drive his foes over the edge of sanity, exposing their inherent extremism, a provocation to which they dutifully comply. But in the world of Real News, Trump tells Big Truths, which daily reminds media whores that they sacrificed their integrity to tell Big Lies to push an agenda driven by self-fluffing fealty to their elitism.

The media are adept in telling Little Truths — adherence to semantics and trivial “fact checks” that hide more than they illuminate — to cloak themselves in the garb of trustworthiness and to conceal their real purpose as manipulators of consensus, but Big Truths like the kind Trump tells every day expose Big Lies to bleaching sunlight, which explains the incoherent rage of the media, deep state, and uniparty.

They can’t stand that Trump effortlessly and routinely belies their pretensions and exposes their malevolence simply by “telling it like it is”.

Trump tells more stone cold truth in a few days than the Globohomo Establishment — media, deep state, bureaucracy, academia, entertainment — tell in their miserable lives.

And that is why they hate him.

The Sacred Sandwich #fundie sacredsandwich.com

In a recent Steven Crowder YouTube video, Alexa, the interactive virtual assistant built into Amazon’s Echo, was asked the question, “Who is the Lord Jesus Christ?” Her answer was short and to the point: “Jesus Christ is a fictional character.”*

We may gasp at that shocking response, but the answer really shouldn’t surprise us. We live in a day and age where biblical truth is marginalized and the once-distinct line between reality and fantasy is blurred. Nowadays, a fetus isn’t a person, there are more than two genders, and Lucifer is a semi-fallen angel with a heart of gold on a successful Fox TV series.

No wonder Alexa can answer the question as she does. The existence of the biblical Jesus is up for debate in these wishy-washy times, so why mince words just to appease a fading orthodoxy in Christianity? Besides, any post-Christian church can still flourish these days without objective truth or a historical basis in fact. Today’s “spiritual-but-not-religious” people are more informed by their emotions than by an external revelation from the one true God. Jesus is now whomever they want Him to be, as long as it “feels right.”

Mark Steyn, in fact, gave the scathing opinion that many mainline Protestant churches, especially in Europe, have turned Jesus into nothing more than a soft-left political cliché. According to their sentimentality, Steyn writes:

“…if Jesus were alive today he’d most likely be a gay Anglican bishop in a committed relationship driving around in an environmentally friendly car with an “Arms are for Hugging” sticker on the way to an interfaith dialogue with a Wiccan and a couple of Wahhabi imams.” ? America Alone: The End of the World as We Know It.

So how did Jesus Christ, whose incarnation divided the world’s measurement of history, begin to be relegated to fictional status? The Bible has shown us that the attacks against Jesus have always been about tearing down His legitimacy in one way or another, and this is no exception. The current approach, however, is to lump the historical Jesus together with every “Christ figure” that mankind can conjure up in its imaginations. In fact, Jesus warns us of this sort of thing: “If anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Christ!’ or ‘Look, there he is!’ do not believe it. For false christs and false prophets will arise and perform signs and wonders, to lead astray, if possible, the elect” (Matthew 24:23–24).

Current signs indicate that we are allowing the real Jesus to lose His distinction among the mythological “Christs” of the present world. Therefore, who’s to say which Christ is hard fact and which Christ is idealized fiction? To be sure, Western society’s current obsession with mythology and other popular products of the imagination, both new and ancient, have brought us to a point where the biblical Son of God is no more significant than any other literary or cinematic character imbued with religious symbolism. Jesus, it seems, has become just another “archetype” among many in which to inform our postmodern spirituality.

The concept of archetypes, first theorized by Carl Jung, put forth the idea that universal mythic characters, or archetypes, reside within the collective unconscious of all humanity and have emerged through our art over the centuries. Not surprisingly, this Gnosis-based theory has so infiltrated the religious sentiments of the current population that a savior like Jesus Christ doesn’t have to exist in reality; it is only the internalized “idea” of what He symbolizes that brings one closer to enlightenment and divinity. Who needs the Son of God slain on the cross when we can find comfort in an imaginary archetype of sacrificial love and acceptance that allows each person to rise to the higher Self by their own power?

Sadly, the dependable eyewitness accounts of the New Testament now have to compete with the fantastical tales of the Marvel/DC universe, Hogwarts, Middle Earth, or even Narnia. In the end, the Gospel record is far too mundane for a world mesmerized by glowing screens filled with CGI candy. Jesus and the apostles, much to the chagrin of some, never wore superhero costumes, flew Firebolt brooms, or slew mythical creatures with swords or light sabers. Is it any wonder, then, that the mythic archetypes of our popular culture are considered more compelling than the real men of God who toiled in a ministry that often brought ostracism, suffering, and ignominious death?

The Confusion Of The Younger Generation

My immediate concern, of course, is for the younger generation growing up in this current crusade of make-believe and religious skepticism. It’s one thing for grown-ups to deal with these assaults upon truth, but young children are not intellectually developed enough to make a distinction between what is real and what is imaginary. Some people who are involved in early education, even in the most progressive schools, have found this to be true in their experience:

“A child who spends too much time in a world of fantasy may find it difficult to relate to others, to interact in a group, to be in the here and now. It can also be scary for a child… When a child under 5 or 6 hears a fairy tale with a wicked witch, they then also imagine this witch to be real as a child of this age has a very concrete understanding of the world. They visualize it as if it is real as they are not yet able to clearly separate fantasy from reality.” – Montessori And Pretend Play: A Complicated Question

This childhood interaction between fact and fiction can be even more complicated when you, as a Christian parent, begin to introduce your child to the real person of Jesus Christ. This should be an exciting and joyful truth to share with your little one as you begin the process of rearing your child under the instruction of God’s word, but it can oftentimes be a difficult education if Jesus has to compete with Santa Claus, Superman, or Harry Potter as the object of your child’s fledgling hero-worship.

Recent research has proven this confusion among children to be a real issue. Case in point, a 2014 research study at Boston University where it was discovered that young children with a religious background were less able to distinguish between fantasy and reality compared with their secular counterparts:

In two studies, 66 kindergarten-age children were presented with three types of stories: realistic, religious and fantastical. The researchers then queried the children on whether they thought the main character in the story was real or fictional.

While nearly all children found the figures in the realistic narratives to be real, secular and religious children were split on religious stories. Children with a religious upbringing tended to view the protagonists in religious stories as real, whereas children from non-religious households saw them as fictional.

Although this might be unsurprising, secular and religious children also differed in their interpretation of fantasy narratives where there was a supernatural or magical storyline.

“Secular children were more likely than religious children to judge the protagonist in such fantastical stories to be fictional,” wrote the researchers. “The results suggest that exposure to religious ideas has a powerful impact on children’s differentiation between reality and fiction, not just for religious stories but also for fantastical stories.”

– BBC News, Study: Religious Children Are Less Able To Distinguish Fantasy From Reality

The researchers concluded (as most college researchers are prone to do) that exposure to a religious education is probably the main culprit in a child’s difficulty in identifying fact from fiction. This conclusion, however, seems to indicate an anti-biblical bias that completely ignores the alternative possibility. Why is religion the problem? Isn’t it just as plausible that fictional stories involving magic are the real cause of confusion, especially when these fanciful tales, like Pharoah’s magicians, are the ones mimicking God’s miracles in the Bible?

In light of Scripture, this alternative conclusion is clearly confirmed. For starters, God is not a God of confusion. God’s word will not return void, but will accomplish what He pleases and will prosper in that thing for which He sent it. Over and over again, the Bible confirms that scriptural instruction from the word of God is essential to a child’s proper upbringing. It keeps them far from folly, equips them for good works, and makes them wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus (Proverbs 22:15 / 2 Timothy 3:14-17).

The one thing that is likely to undermine this God-ordained training is when an unaware parent interjects inappropriate fantasy stories from movies and literature as a compatible resource for their child’s development. This misstep is compounded when the parent’s reason for doing this is not because Disney movies or similar entertainments have any legitimate educational value, but because they don’t want their children to miss out on what the popular culture has to offer, even if it contains unbiblical content. To be blunt, raising children with such an indiscriminate use of worldly influences is almost a cultural form of Moloch worship which the faithless Israelites succumbed to when they delivered their infant children over to paganism for the sake of their temporal prosperity (Psalm 106:34-39).

Think about the possible consequences. Should we really be surprised when little Suzy suddenly has trouble maintaining the reality of Jesus walking on water after watching Luke Skywalker use the Force to levitate himself? And what should Suzy’s parents do after this happens? Do they let Suzy try to figure it out for herself or do they attempt to adequately explain the unexplainable to a kindergartner? And does it really matter at this point?

Some may suggest (and rightly so) that we can’t always shield our children from the world’s influences and the confusion these things might engender. Surely this is part and parcel of the average childhood and will no longer be an issue once they grow older and gain the intellectual capacity and religious understanding to correctly divide fact from fiction or right from wrong.

This is a valid point, and yet not particularly the issue at hand. The concern is not so much in how such exposure might temporarily affect a child, but how it might impact the child later on and into adulthood. A childhood immersed in “make-believe” might well lead to a misguided adulthood that finds more “truth” in paganism or occultism than in the Bible. It might also lay the groundwork for the idea that God’s word is just another fairy tale of human invention. And eventually, these adults might find themselves falling into the ditch of full-blown skepticism or atheism.

This possibility, in fact, was recently explored in a research study titled, Make Believe Unmakes Belief?: Childhood Play Style and Adult Personality as Predictors of Religious Identity Change. Published in 2014, the study looked into the relationship between childhood imagination and religiosity, finding that people who intensely engaged in pretend play as children were more likely to change their religious identity later in life, with apostasy being the largest category. As reported by Merrill Miller:

“The study assessed the role of ‘pretend play’—creating and acting out imaginary scenarios in made-up worlds—in the childhoods of individuals… and found that individuals who did not change their religious or nonreligious identification were less likely to have engaged in pretend play. Converts and switchers, however, were more likely to have played pretend, and apostates were the most likely to have often engaged in pretend play.” – The Humanist, Are Nonbelievers More Imaginative? A New Study Suggests They Might Be

Why were children who actively pursued a fantasy world more likely to abandon their religious upbringing as adults?

“The study’s author, Christopher Burris speculated that the higher correlation for apostates is because of the shift from structure — common among religious institutions — to unstructured — that is found in pretend play. ‘The realm of the nonbeliever is much less structured than the realm of belief is,’ he explained. ‘People’s cognitive, intellectual and emotional needs are not met sufficiently by faith traditions, so they strike out on their own way.'” – Massarah Mikati, Deseret News

The Biblical Approach For Christian Parents

The Bible, of course, has already anticipated the possible spiritual fallout from cultivating a child’s wild imagination instead of grounding them in reality and the clear instruction of God’s revelation. The biblical remedy?

Train up a child in the way that he should go; even when he is old he will not depart from it. – Proverbs 22:6

This is not to say that Christian parents shouldn’t encourage their child’s emerging creativity. But it should be grounded and fostered in reality. To truly instill an active and abiding love for God and neighbor, a child’s imagination must be connected to this real-life task and to exposing the child to those faithful people in their lives who emulate Christian duty in their various talents and occupations.

Even without the benefit of this biblical insight, Dr. Maria Montessori made the academic observation that reality was the key to a more profitable imagination:

“The true basis of the imagination is reality, and its perception is related to exactness of observation. It is necessary to prepare children to perceive the things in their environment exactly, in order to secure for them the material required by the imagination. Intelligence, reasoning, and distinguishing one thing from another prepares a cement for imaginative constructions… The fancy which exaggerates and invents coarsely does not put the child on the right road.” – Spontaneous Activity in Education p 254, Chapter IX

Don’t misunderstand this point. Pretend play is not necessarily a bad thing, but it is an activity meant to assist children in processing the real world around them. “For example, if they see an excavator at work in the street,” writes one teacher, “they may then be attracted to working with a model of an excavator, to reading books about construction vehicles and to play based on this. This is a child’s imagination at work.”

The fact is, even children themselves would much rather engage with real-life activities when possible. Many educators are well aware that a child is much more excited by helping Mom or Dad prepare a meal in the kitchen than pretend-cook with a toy stove. And Scripture finds great wisdom in this approach. Notice how God instructs His people to teach their children in the course of their daily activities:

You shall teach [the words of God] diligently to your children, and shall talk of them when you sit in your house, and when you walk by the way, and when you lie down, and when you rise. – Deuteronomy 6:7

Here we see no significant time set aside for daydreaming or chasing after empty phantasms. This is an all-encompassing lifestyle that weaves God’s truth into one’s daily labor from dawn to dusk, and from childhood to adulthood. It is the command from Genesis and throughout the Bible to bear fruit in every good work and increase in the knowledge of God (Colossians 1:10) “until we all attain to the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to mature manhood, to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ” (Ephesians 4:13).

Brothers, do not be children in your thinking. Be infants in evil, but in your thinking be mature. – 1 Corinthians 14:20

The Mature Approach For All Christians

Where is this maturity of which Paul speaks? Truly, one of the problems with American Christianity today is that too many professing believers have failed to see the importance of sobriety and maturity as a biblical imperative for discipleship. They twist the meaning of Luke 18:16-17 and simply refuse to grow up. They see their childlike fascination with games, fairy tales, and the playthings of their youth as a crowning virtue instead of a possible impediment to spiritual growth. In turn, these parents immerse their children in the same enthrallments and find great satisfaction in molding little ones into their own image, forgetting that the Bible instructs them otherwise.

On the contrary, God is the only object of wonder we need to focus on:

We will not hide them from their children, but tell to the coming generation the glorious deeds of the Lord, and his might, and the wonders that he has done. – Psalm 78:4

I ask you: How could anyone fully submit to this sacred task if Jesus is only viewed as a mythological “archetype of Christ” or a good teacher who said wise things but never really existed except in our collective unconscious?

Any confusion about the reality of the Son of God is never going to serve this dark world, especially in an age where fantasy is actively usurping real life. As Christians, we have a holy calling to go into the world to make disciples, not to go into a fantasy-land to do so. God’s word and the Holy Spirit have shown us the only mind-altering vision we need to ignite our passion. We need to humbly submit to our Lord’s charge to deny self, follow Him, and stay true to our Gospel witness and testimony for the sake of the lost.

We know, of course, that shielding people, young or old, from the counterfeit fictions of this world won’t guarantee their eventual conversion. Ultimately, it is only by God’s grace and power that hearts are changed and the lost through faith are saved. Yet, we also know that if salvation does come to an individual, it won’t be because of fairy tales or myths, but despite them. Our job as Christians is to stay on point with the pure Gospel message, and not capitulate in any way to the world’s insatiable desire for an alternate reality. To give in to that desire does nothing more than bring confusion and cast doubt on the existence of the living Savior and the faith that brings eternal life.

The next time Alexa, or anyone else, dares to tell you that Jesus is a fictional character, ask them what the Bible says about Him. Why? Because the biblical answer to that question is the only response that truly holds the power of the Gospel to heal the brokenhearted, preach deliverance to the captives, recover the sight of the blind, and set at liberty them that are bruised (Luke 4:18).

“Whom do you say I am?” – Jesus Christ, Matthew 16:15

(unknown) #fundie anointed-one.net

Is atheism against the law?

Atheism is a lack of belief mentality which rejects the existence of anything supernatural. By default, atheists are also naturalists and evolutionists. They believe there is a natural explanation for all circumstances and nothing has ever occurred that has a supernatural answer. While atheism does not break any state or federal laws, it does break several scientific laws.

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What scientific laws does atheism break?

[Click the link for the thrilling conclusion]

David J. Stewart #fundie #conspiracy #homophobia #racist #wingnut jesusisprecious.org

The “Coronavirus” (COVID—19) began with a few deaths in China. The first confirmed death from the Coronavirus occurred on January 9, 2020 in China. As of March 2020, over 90,000 people have been infected. I was reluctant at first to say anything, waiting to see where this was headed before I gave my opinion. I wanted to wait until the virus spread to the United States before commenting, to confirm my suspicions.

Now, I could be wrong, and I certainly hope I am. I have been researching the forming New World Order since 2002, trying to fit each new piece of the puzzle together. The truths I have learned are mind-boggling. I sincerely suspect at the early stage of the Coronavirus outbreak, that it may have been manmade in a laboratory. It is too coincidental, to all of a sudden appear in 2020. We know from the infamous Georgia Guidestones, which were erected on March 22, 1980 by a mysterious man named R.C. Christian, that population reduction is the goal of the Luciferian elite. The very first of the ten futuristic stipulations of The Georgia Guidestones is to maintain a world population of 500,000,000. That would require extermination of nine-tenths of the planet's 8,500,000,000 people! I am not saying that the Coronavirus is the fulfillment of their openly stated goals to reduce the earth's human population, but I am saying it certainly could be!

Gerald Celente Says Coronavirus Overhyped Despite World Health Order Panic

Gerald Celente brings up a good point in the preceding video. He points out that 61,000 people die each year in the United States from the common flu. So far, the new Coronavirus has led to more than 89,000 illnesses and 3,000 deaths worldwide. But that's nothing compared with the flu, also called influenza. In the U.S. alone, the flu has caused an estimated 32 million illnesses, 310,000 hospitalizations and 18,000 deaths this season, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).[1] So, at this early point, the Coronavirus has been massively blown out of proportion by the media. Is this another 9/11 False Flag Terror Attack? Well see.

I just heard the director of the Centers For Disease Control And Prevention (CDC), say in the news that a cure for the Coronavirus would take at least 12 to 18 months to develop. A lot of people can die between now and then! As soon as I learned about the “new” Coronavirus breaking out in China, I suspected that it would come to the United States. Sure enough, it is here, which is why I am writing this article. I see the word “POLICE STATE” written all over this epidemic. Already in China citizens are being hauled like animals from their homes, thrown by thug police into quarantine centers. If this virus spreads across the United States, like it has in China, we could quickly see Police State force and Marshal Law in America. I have learned to be objective (distrustful) of everything our government and the newsmedia report! They have a poor tract record for telling THE TRUTH!

Again, I am not saying that the Coronavirus is manmade, but I do have my suspicions. I can hear the media now (like Sean Hannity and other stooges for the rich), saying things like: “How dare you Sir! How dare you suggest that this virus could be manmade when thousands of people are infected and dying!” Case in point, look at this CNN fool Piers Morgan berating former Minnesota Governor Jesse Ventura for telling THE TRUTH about the 911 attacks. Veteran Jesse Ventura proves one thing—that telling THE TRUTH doesn't change anything! The only thing that changes something is POWER! For example: Abortion is cold-blooded murder! We know it is murder! The Bible says it is murder! The very fact that a beating heart must be stopped, to carry out an abortion, proves that it is first degree murder! “First degree” means it is premeditated murder. All abortions are premeditated murder!!! In his classic book, George Orwell is right, who said: “In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.”

Unfortunately, the highest U.S. courts have the POWER to keep murder legal in the womb. The courts have the POWER to make the sin of homosexuality legal. THE TRUTH is all around us today, but Satan is the god of this evil world (2nd Corinthians 4:3-4), to whom God has given the POWER for now. When Jesus Christ returns, He alone will have the POWER to change things (and Jesus will)! Everything in life boils down to who has the POWER. The American people are misled to believe that they hold the POWER, but they don't! You are a fool if you think the people have the POWER! No one, and I mean no one, in their right mind thinks that lesbians and sodomites should be legally allowed to influence, adopt and raise children! Only a woefully Godless person would be supportive of the Satanic LGBTQ agenda. The Zionist-controlled perverse American media is 100% pro-homosexual today! The liberal media are God's enemies!!!

Old Man Montgomery #fundie oldmanmontgomery.wordpress.com

[=Authors Note: For the sake of trimming, some of the Bible verses in the original page have been removed=]

From the website of ‘johnshore.com’

These were published and dated December 16, 2010. I have only recently become aware of this ‘movement’ via Facebook. (One never knows what one will find there.) These are referred to as the “Sixteen Tenets of ‘unfundamentalist Christians’ , known also or previously known as ‘ThruWay Christians’. Being the old-fashioned, hard-nosed Bible thumper that I am, I disagree with some facets of this and the conclusions of the entirety.

Of course I have reasons and those reasons are published below. Just for convenience, I numbered the statements, replacing what appeared in my copy as a paragraph ‘dot’.

Just for the record, as the article was dated December 16, 2010, it is entirely possible Mr. Shore has completely changed his mind and recanted this whole document. On the other hand, I just checked Mr. Shore’s last blog entry and he’s still pitching the “UnFund” theme.

Caution: If the reader is not a Christian believer, much of this discussion will seem pointless. Feel free to read on, but if you’re confused, don’t worry, it happens to lots of folks.

Here beings the tenets:

1. Jesus Christ was God incarnate. He performed miracles; as a means of providing for the irrevocable reconciliation of humankind to God he sacrificed himself on the cross; he rose from the dead; he left behind for the benefit of all people the totality of himself in the form of the indwelling Holy Spirit.

So far, I’m in agreement. Jesus is God incarnate; the ‘Son’ who is God Himself. Jesus was executed and killed (no alternatives) on a Roman cross under Roman law. Jesus’ death was the final sacrifice needed to atone for the sin of all people who appeal to Him for forgiveness. Jesus rose from the dead on the third day showing Himself to be God and giving a promise to all of an Eternal life in Heaven with Him. He sent the Third Person of the Godhead, the ‘Holy Spirit’ to believers after His ascension.

2. Christ and Christianity are meant to be understood, appreciated, and experienced as galvanizing inspirations for living a life of love, compassion, fairness, peace, and humility. Period.

Now we’re disagreeing. The primary purpose and function of Christianity is to repair the breach between God and mankind due to mankind’s rebellion and disobedience. Being forgiven by Jesus and redeemed by His sacrifice, mankind can have a direct and proper relationship with God. The qualities of love, compassion, fairness, peace and humility are by-products of that proper relationship, not the primary aim.

Am I splitting hairs here? Not as much as one might think; the matter becomes clearer as we proceed.

3. The Bible is a collection of a great many separate documents written by different people in different languages over thousands of years. Properly understanding both the letter and spirit of the Bible necessarily entails taking into account the historical and cultural contexts that so greatly inform so much of its text. The size, density, history and complexity of the Bible render unfeasible the idea that not one of its words reflects more man’s will than God’s. The spirit of God is inerrant; people—even those impassioned by the conviction that God is speaking directly to or through them—are not.

The one starts out well and descends into heresy. The Bible was written over a period of approximately 1500 years. The Books of Moses, the Torah – sometimes Pentateuch, was written in the period between the Exodus from Egypt, around 1400 B. C. to the time of the Babylonian Captivity, around 600 to 530 B. C. (give or take a decade or so.) The book of Revelation, written by John the Apostle was written around 90 A. D. The rest was written somewhere in between, with the possible exception of Job. Job was one of the earliest sections written and may predate Moses. The Bible was assuredly written by at least forty different authors. (For instance, the books of Judges, Kings and Chronicles were written over periods of time and one author could not have written them all; they require accounts from events several hundred years apart. The Torah was more than likely written by a number of scribes with Moses or a later, Babylonian scholar as ‘editor’ and having final input. Genesis is obviously based on oral traditions of the Israelite nation.) The books reflect social conventions and cultural coloring of the times involved.

However, it is the message of Almighty God to humanity. No matter how much a human can foul up, the integrity of the message is based on God’s ability to ensure His message is properly passed on. No human can foul up or outright lie good enough to defeat God’s purpose. So as much as mankind wrote the words on paper (papyrus or whatever), the ‘Word’ (Greek ‘logos’, meaning idea, identity or concept) is that of God. As such, it is inerrant in message.

The idea of the Bible being ‘written by man and therefore possibly distorted’ is an old heresy. It was argued about in the earliest councils trying to settle on the ‘Bible’ and is the basis for several cults who claim to be Christian, but rely on teachings of extra Biblical origin. The heresy also finds much favor among those who wish to discredit any one particular facet of Christian doctrine. Under any version, the idea the Bible isn’t correct means either God really doesn’t care about the message or God is incapable of protecting His own plan. Christians cannot in good faith (no pun intended) accept either alternative.

4. Anyone seeking to mix church and state has failed to understand the nature and proper role of either. Belief that all people are created equal and are deserving of equal protection under the law is foundational to all modern democratic nations. To incorporate the inherently exclusionary imperatives of a particular religion into the determinedly inclusive system of democracy would be to undermine the very spirit of democracy by pushing it toward a theocracy.

This is a pretty silly statement and is highly ignorant of history. The ‘foundational’ belief of people being created equal and deserving equal protection under law is uniquely derived from the Judeo-Christian tradition. It is not found in Islam, Confucianism, Buddhism, Hinduism or any of the other ‘religions’ of the world. It is Christianity that fostered Democracy, not Democracy that fostered Christianity.

Additionally, it was Christian believers and supporters who founded the United States as a nation with no state religion. The United States was not founded as a ‘Christian nation’, but was indeed begun as a ‘nation of Christians’. To pretend otherwise is to ignore history and to invite serious question as to the point of the discussion. One must also note that all movements to ‘remove’ the influence of Christianity from the United States and civil laws result in the promotion of either Secular Humanism or Islam.

There are no moral vacuums.

5. It’s not possible to read Paul’s New Testament writings and remain unmoved by his open heart, intellectual prowess, and staggering bravery. And yet Paul (who, after all, spent years zealously persecuting and having executed untold numbers of Christians) must remain to us a mortal man. More than reasonable, it is incumbent upon those who claim to seek the deepest knowledge of Christ to subject the words of Paul to the same kinds of objective analysis we would the words of any man daring to describe the qualities, purposes, and desires of God.

This is a gentle, lofty and seemingly reasonable attempt to undermine the message presented by God through Paul the Apostle. What this statement does is deny the Divine inspiration and authorship of the Bible as a whole. It returns to the fore in a moment with more of the ‘villify Paul’ agenda.

6. With regards to the written identity of God, the pronoun “he” is a necessity of the English language, not an actual anatomical designation. God is neither male nor female; God contains all of both.

Again, agreement. In Hebrew, just as in English, the male pronoun unless specifically intended refers to both male and female. Jesus says (John 4:23 and 24)“But a time is coming – and now is here – when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for the Father seeks such people to be his worshipers. God is spirit, and the people who worship him must worship in spirit and truth.” Also one notes in Genesis (chapter one, verses 26 and 27)
“Then God said, “Let us make humankind in our image, after our likeness, so they may rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over all the creatures that move on the earth.”
God created humankind in his own image,
in the image of God he created them,
male and female he created them.

So, both male and female were (still are, more or less, being distorted from the original model by mankind’s disobedience) created in God’s image; which manifestly means not a physical image, but a mental and spiritual image.

7. The Biblical scholarship supporting the idea that Paul never wrote a word proscribing natural homosexuality is at least as credible and persuasive as the scholarship (if not typical Bible translations) claiming that he did. Any person who uses the words of Paul in the New Testament to “prove” that homosexuality is a sin against God has either never themselves researched the matter, or has simply chosen to believe one set of equal proofs over another. Though laziness is easily enough understood, we remain mystified as to why anyone who purports to follow Jesus would choose to condemn an entire population over choosing to obey Jesus’ self-proclaimed Greatest Commandment to love one’s neighbor as one loves oneself.

Here’s the follow up to point 5. Once Paul is ‘questionable’, the condemnation of homosexuality can be dismissed as a personal quirk, or possibly an outright error on the part of Christianity (on the whole).

Here’s the premise of the tenet: Paul either really didn’t mean what he wrote about the practice of homosexuality despite what is clearly written in the original Greek manuscripts and all subsequent translations of the Bible, or Paul was mistaken and therefore not inspired by God. What an amazing statement.

Either God inspired and authored the Bible or not. If one chooses to deny God’s inspiration in part, then the whole becomes suspect. If God was lax in allowing Paul to write and publish errors, then what of the rest of the Bible is trustworthy? Conversely, if God did in fact inspire and author the Bible, then Paul’s writing is equally trustworthy.

Leviticus 18
This entire section (several chapters) deals with sexual sins and prohibitions. In part (I have inserted whole paragraphs to present an in context view):
19 You must not approach a woman in her menstrual impurity to have sexual intercourse with her. 20 You must not have sexual intercourse with the wife of your fellow citizen to become unclean with her. 21 You must not give any of your children as an offering to Molech, so that you do not profane the name of your God. I am the Lord! 22 You must not have sexual intercourse with a male as one has sexual intercourse with a woman; it is a detestable act. 23 You must not have sexual intercourse with any animal to become defiled with it, and a woman must not stand before an animal to have sexual intercourse with it; it is a perversion.
Leviticus 20
9 “‘If anyone curses his father and mother he must be put to death. He has cursed his
father and mother; his blood guilt is on himself. 10 If a man commits adultery with his neighbor’s wife, both the adulterer and the adulteress must be put to death. 11 If a man has sexual intercourse with his father’s wife, he has exposed his father’s nakedness. Both of them must be put to death; their blood guilt is on themselves. 12 If a man has sexual intercourse with his daughter-in-law, both of them must be put to death. They have committed perversion; their blood guilt is on themselves. 13 If a man has sexual intercourse with a male as one has sexual intercourse with a woman, the two of them have committed an abomination. They must be put to death; their blood guilt is on themselves. 14 If a man has sexual intercourse with both a woman and her mother, it is lewdness. Both he and they must be burned to death, so there is no lewdness in your midst. 15 If a man has sexual intercourse with any animal, he must be put to death, and you must kill the animal. 16 If a woman approaches any animal to have sexual intercourse with it, you must kill the woman, and the animal must be put to death; their blood guilt is on themselves.

These two passages are from the Torah, the first five books of the Old Testament. One can argue these are part of the Jewish or Mosaic Law and are therefore obsolete; in that case, general adultery, incest and bestiality are also permitted along with homosexual conduct. Or is that the point?

First Timothy 1 (written by that suspect Paul fellow)

8 But we know that the law is good if someone uses it legitimately, 9 realizing that law is not intended for a righteous person, but for lawless and rebellious people, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers, 10 sexually immoral people, practicing homosexuals, kidnappers, liars, perjurers – in fact, for any who live contrary to sound teaching. 11 This accords with the glorious gospel of the blessed God that was entrusted to me.

There is a note on the phrase ‘practicing homosexuals’ in verse 10 from the NET Bible: “…this term… ??se?????t?? states, “a male who engages in sexual activity w. a pers. of his own sex, pederast 1 Cor 6:9…of one who assumes the dominant role in same-sex activity, opp. µa?a???…1 Ti 1:10; Pol 5:3. Cp. Ro 1:27.” L&N 88.280 states, “a male partner in homosexual intercourse – ‘homosexual.’…It is possible that ??se?????t?? in certain contexts refers to the active male partner in homosexual intercourse in contrast with µa?a???, the passive male partner” (cf. 1 Cor 6:9). Since there is a distinction in contemporary usage between sexual orientation and actual behavior, the qualification “practicing” was supplied in the translation…”

First Corinthians 6 (also written by that questionable Paul)
9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived! The sexually immoral, idolaters, adulterers, passive homosexual partners, practicing homosexuals, 10 thieves, the greedy, drunkards, the verbally abusive, and swindlers will not inherit the kingdom of God. 11 Some of you once lived this way. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

This last passage strikes me an illuminating. Homosexuals are included in a list of sin categories which include heterosexual sexual sinners, idolaters, adulterers (distinct from ‘sexually immoral heterosexuals), thieves, greedy, drunkards, verbally abusive and swindlers. The phrase ‘verbally abusive’ is rather interesting. The NIV translates it as ‘slanderers’; I think ‘gossips’ might easily fit into the meaning. At any rate, people who say nasty things about others are lumped in with murderers, thieves and the sexually immoral (of any type).

The last verse in the paragraph implies a change of life in those reading the letter. “Some of you … lived… But you were washed… sanctified… justified…” So they were not just forgiven and allowed to continue; they changed their values and life-styles. The same implication applies to the sexually impure; they don’t do that sort of thing anymore; they avoid that sort of thing; they are ashamed of and denounce their own past behavior.

Therefore, the Old Testament writings prohibited homosexual conduct as does the writings of Paul, therefore the New Testament. The words used really do mean homosexual conduct and not just the generic ‘sexual misconduct’.

I’m really curious about the ‘equal scholarship’ which demonstrates what the Bible says isn’t what it means. I’d like to examine the line of thought and arguments.

The statement “…Jesus’ self-proclaimed Greatest Commandment to love one’s neighbor as one loves oneself” is incorrect and sloppy scholarship.

Matthew 22:
35 And one of them, an expert in religious law, asked him a question to test him: 36 “Teacher, which commandment in the law is the greatest?” 37 Jesus 44 said to him, “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.’ 38 This is the first and greatest commandment.

This tenet goes past ‘unfundamentalism’ and is squarely non-Christian.

8. It is much more reasonable—and certainly more compassionate—to hold that throughout history God chose to introduce himself in different ways into different cultural streams than it is to believe that there is only one correct way to understand and worship God, and that the punishment for anyone who chooses any but that way is to spend all of eternity having the living flesh seared off of his or her bones.

More reasonable? By who’s standard? As a Christian, the only viewpoint that counts is God’s viewpoint. That ‘viewpoint’ is expressed in the Bible, which is – as noted prior – God’s message to humanity.

More compassionate? To whom? Not to mention under what definition of ‘compassion’? I find no compassion in patting someone in error on the head and say comforting words while allowing them to remain in error at the risk of Eternal Death.

So let’s go along with the idea of God introducing Himself into different cultural streams in different ways. Why would introduce Himself in a totally different manner if He’s the same, Eternal God? For instance, in the sub-continent which is now India, why would God decide not to be the Eternal God of Creation of the Jewish people, but instead be represented by a pantheon of conflicting gods which change over time? Why would Almighty God manifest Himself as the volcano god, demanding virgin sacrifices? Would God happily change Himself into the Great Green Arkleseizure of Viltvodle VI?

Is He still God? Is He bored and just experimenting? Can He not remember who He is, from epoch to epoch?

The idea appeals to the ‘open-minded’ who have no ideas about who God is, or what He should be or do. The concept flies in the face of the ultimate creator of the Universe and all things that exist, who is Eternal and changeless, who is omniscient, omnipotent and omnipresent. In other words, God.

Again, not just ‘unfundamentalist’, but not very good thinking and doctrinally non Christian.

9. “No one comes to the Father except through me” does not mean that in the afterlife only Christians can get into heaven. It means that Jesus/God decides who does and doesn’t make it in.

From this one is forced to believe Jesus will not judge between those who accept Him and those who don’t, but instead will judge by ad hoc rules of ‘good behavior’. I say ‘ad hoc’ because no such rules are outlined in the Bible.

All that stuff about believing in the Son and relying on Him in tenet 1 are out the window, then? It is good deeds that really make the difference?

This heresy is remarkably old as well. It predates Christianity, in fact.

Jesus mentioned this concept in Matthew Seven, starting with verse 15:
15 “Watch out for false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing but inwardly are voracious wolves. 16 You will recognize them by their fruit. Grapes are not gathered from thorns or figs from thistles, are they? 17 In the same way, every good tree bears good fruit, but the bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree is not able to bear bad fruit, nor a bad tree to bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 So then, you will recognize them by their fruit.
21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the kingdom of heaven – only the one who does the will of my Father in heaven. 22 On that day, many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, didn’t we prophesy in your name, and in your name cast out demons and do many powerful deeds?’ 23 Then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you. Go away from me, you lawbreakers!’
24 “Everyone who hears these words of mine and does them is like a wise man who built his house on rock. 25 The rain fell, the flood came, and the winds beat against that house, but it did not collapse because it had been founded on rock. 26 Everyone who hears these words of mine and does not do them is like a foolish man who built his house on sand. 27 The rain fell, the flood came, and the winds beat against that house, and it collapsed; it was utterly destroyed!”
So then, what about “… the one who does the will of my Father in heaven…”? John 15, starting with verse nine makes it clear:
9 “Just as the Father has loved me, I have also loved you; remain in my love. 10 If you obey my commandments, you will remain in my love, just as I have obeyed my Father’s commandments and remain in his love. 11 I have told you these things so that my joy may be in you, and your joy may be complete.”

Nowhere in the Bible, nowhere in the quotations of Jesus, nowhere in the letters of the various apostles and elders in Jerusalem is any such doctrine mentioned or taught. In one setting (John 10:14-18), Jesus says,
14 “I am the good shepherd. I know my own and my own know me – 15 just as the Father knows me and I know the Father – and I lay down my life for the sheep. 16 I have other sheep that do not come from this sheepfold. I must bring them too, and they will listen to my voice, so that there will be one flock and one shepherd. 17 This is why the Father loves me – because I lay down my life, so that I may take it back again. 18 No one takes it away from me, but I lay it down of my own free will. I have the authority to lay it down, and I have the authority to take it back again. This commandment I received from my Father.”

Verse 16 is often used to ‘prove’ the heresy of various versions of God and or Jesus running about in human history, showing up in various forms and guises. One fellow seriously suggested it could indicate the existence of extra-terrestrial life. Actually, the statement simply indicates non-Jewish people were included. That’s all.

I personally don’t have any problem with extra-terrestrial life, or any of them being in Heaven. But it will be on the basis of an individual relationship with Jesus Christ.

I am also firmly convinced all the inhabitants of planet Earth will have adequate notice of the person and Deity of Jesus Christ. God is not the sort of being who looks for tiny excuses and ‘foot-faults’ to disqualify anyone from Heaven.

10. The question of whether or not hell is real is properly subsumed by the truth that a moment spent worrying if you’ll be with God in the afterlife is an opportunity missed to be with God in this life.

I agree. There is no point of wondering, let alone worrying, if Hell is real. Jesus talks about it too much to be in doubt. It isn’t pleasant, but it’s there. One is obliged to take note and do something to avoid residence.

11. God’s will and intention is to forgive and teach us, not to judge and punish us.

That is true, but only to a qualified extent. Jesus came to Earth as a mortal man to tell us what to do to avoid Eternal punishment and die in our place to pay the price for our sin. Obviously, God the Father was in on this plan as was the Holy Spirit.

God really does not want anyone to spend Eternity in Hell. However, since all mankind is in the default position of being in rebellion against God, mankind is by default condemned to Eternal Hell.

The words of Jesus in John, chapter three:
16 For this is the way God loved the world: He gave his one and only Son, so that everyone who believes in him will not perish but have eternal life. 17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world should be saved through him. 18 The one who believes in him is not condemned. The one who does not believe has been condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the one and only Son of God. 19 Now this is the basis for judging: that the light has come into the world and people loved the darkness rather than the light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For everyone who does evil deeds hates the light and does not come to the light, so that their deeds will not be exposed. 21 But the one who practices the truth comes to the light, so that it may be plainly evident that his deeds have been done in God.
God is loving and concerned. God is simultaneously honest and just. God is God and that means – in a long list of other things – He will always conduct Himself as God and be true to His own nature.

There are also a number of references warning that when Jesus returns – ‘The Second Coming’ – He will in fact judge all people according to their alliances.

12. The only person who should be actively endeavoring to convert non-Christians into Christians is God. Jesus does not need our help drawing people towards him. He does need, or could certainly use, our help in making sure that people know that they are, just as they are, loved.

This statement directly contradicts the command of Jesus.

Matthew 28:16-20
16 So the eleven disciples went to Galilee to the mountain Jesus had designated. 17 When they saw him, they worshiped him, but some doubted. 18 Then Jesus came up and said to them, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. 19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit, 20 teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And remember, I am with you always, to the end of the age

Acts 1
6 So when they had gathered together, they began to ask him, “Lord, is this the time when you are restoring the kingdom to Israel?” 7 He told them, “You are not permitted to know the times or periods that the Father has set by his own authority. 8 But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you, and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the farthest parts of the earth.” 9 After he had said this, while they were watching, he was lifted up and a cloud hid him from their sight.

First Peter 3
15 But set Christ apart as Lord in your hearts and always be ready to give an answer to anyone who asks about the hope you possess. (“Hope” here meaning the expectation of Eternal life with God.)

So in this statement again, the concept is not ‘un-fundamentalist’ but ‘un-Christian’.

13. Getting a divorce is painful, and if at all possible should certainly be avoided. But ultimately the act in and of itself is not immoral.

This statement flatly contradicts Jesus’ teaching on the subject.

Matthew 5
31 “It was said, ‘Whoever divorces his wife must give her a legal document.’ 32 But I say to you that everyone who divorces his wife, except for immorality, makes her commit adultery, and whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery.

Matthew 19
3 Then some Pharisees came to him in order to test him. They asked, “Is it lawful to divorce a wife for any cause?” 4 He answered, “Have you not read that from the beginning the Creator made them male and female, 5 and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and will be united with his wife, and the two will become one flesh’? 6 So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.” 7 They said to him, “Why then did Moses command us to give a certificate of dismissal and to divorce her?” 8 Jesus said to them, “Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because of your hard hearts, but from the beginning it was not this way. 9 Now I say to you that whoever divorces his wife, except for immorality, and marries another commits adultery.” 10 The disciples said to him, “If this is the case of a husband with a wife, it is better not to marry!”11 He said to them, “Not everyone can accept this statement, except those to whom it has been given. 12 For there are some eunuchs who were that way from birth, and some who were made eunuchs by others, and some who became eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. The one who is able to accept this should accept it.”

So yes, Jesus said divorce is an immoral act, save for the cause of adultery. Even then, the divorced man or woman is limited in options.

14. God does not want any woman “submitting” to anyone.

Another direct contradiction of Biblical teaching.

Ephesians 5
22 Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord, 23 because the husband is the head of the wife as also Christ is the head of the church – he himself being the savior of the body. 24 But as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything. 25 Husbands, love your wives just as Christ loved the church and gave himself for her 26 to sanctify her by cleansing her with the washing of the water by the word, 27 so that he may present the church to himself as glorious – not having a stain or wrinkle, or any such blemish, but holy and blameless. 28 In the same way husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself.

Colossians 3
18 Wives, submit to your husbands, as is fitting in the Lord. 19 Husbands, love your wives and do not be embittered against them.

Oh, wait! That’s that questionable Paul again! Since Paul is so very questionable, we can ignore much of his writings – especially the parts about moral conduct, sexual misconduct and general carryings-on.

First Peter 3
1 In the same way, wives, be subject to your own husbands. Then, even if some are disobedient to the word, they will be won over without a word by the way you live, 2 when they see your pure and reverent conduct… like Sarah who obeyed Abraham, calling him lord. You become her children when you do what is good and have no fear in doing so. 7 Husbands, in the same way, treat your wives with consideration as the weaker partners and show them honor as fellow heirs of the grace of life. In this way nothing will hinder your prayers.

That’s the summation of Peter the Apostle. He agrees with Paul the suspect.

15. There were no dinosaurs on Noah’s ark; Jesus didn’t have a pet stegosaurus. An all-powerful God and the theory of evolution are not incompatible.

Whooop! Whooop! Whooop! Strawman Alert!
So, just where do we find claims of dinosaurs on Noah’s Ark? Which gospel contains the story of Jesus and His pet stegosaurus? What kind of hairball ploy is this?

Okay, “An all-powerful God and the theory of evolution are not incompatible.” That part is reasonable enough. However, this isn’t a matter of doctrinal distinction; it’s a matter of textual examination.

Dinosaurs on the Ark? Sheesh.

16. The single most telling indicator of a person’s moral character has nothing to do with how they define or worship God, and everything to do with how they treat others.

So, a relationship with God isn’t important; what is important is ‘good deeds’.

Actually, this is a deceptive argument; somewhat strawman in nature. I’ll agree one’s ‘moral character’ is not always dependent on how one defines or worships God. However, one’s moral character has nothing to do with one’s Eternal estate, being in a proper relationship with God and spending Eternity with God in Heaven.

One can be a rotten skunk and be bound for Heaven, or a very decent, clean, honest and honorable person going to Hell.

I know for a fact that my moral character was – for that matter ‘is’ – not always as good and shining as it ought to be. After becoming a Christian, I have sinned grievously, often and cheerfully. But my eternal destination is already secure and in Jesus’ care. As far as God is concerned in Judgment, I am as pure as Jesus.

Which is not to say I’m content in my life that way, or at peace with God. I found I was a jittery, angry, depressed, unsettled maniac; at least some combination of two or three of those. I can hide it well, but it’s there and I am very aware of it.

What happens is this: God works on me to make me into who – the type of person – He wants me to be, fit for Heaven in Eternity.

To conclude:

“Un-fundamentalists” accept the Deity, Sacrifice, Resurrection and Redemptive nature and power of Jesus Christ. However, they also believe God has appeared in other forms and guises, seemingly revealing other versions of Himself. So Jesus really isn’t uniquely God at all.

“Un-fundamentalists” deny the Divinely Inspired nature of the Bible, strip Paul’s writing of authority and accept homosexual misconduct – and by inference, heterosexual misconduct – as both normal and moral.

“Un-fundamentalists” claim the goal of Christianity is to live a good life; ‘good’ being defined by not offending anyone, getting along with all and ignoring Biblical principles if adherence would cause a row.

“Un-fundamentalists” believe Christians should not vote in accordance with Biblical principles. Nor should laws follow the long held traditions of either Judaism or Christianity.

“Un-fundamentalists” do not assume responsibility for evangelism; in fact, evangelism is discouraged.

“Un-fundamentalists” believe God never criticizes or judges human conduct. They believe there is no Hell. After all, God isn’t going to punish anyone for anything anyway.

All things considered, “Un-fundamentalist Christian” is not a properly descriptive phrase. Citing the serious theological and doctrinal differences between this cult and mainstream Christianity, I would suggest perhaps “Nearly Christian” would be a better description. Since the first tenet does recognize Jesus as God, perhaps “Barely Christian” would do.

Now, I know some bright soul is going to jump on me with the Biblical injunction of “Judge not, lest ye be judged”. The statement comes in Matthew 7, starting with the beginning of the chapter. The whole paragraph reads as follows:

1 “Do not judge so that you will not be judged. 2 For by the standard you judge you will be judged, and the measure you use will be the measure you receive. 3 Why do you see the speck in your brother’s eye, but fail to see the beam of wood in your own? 4 Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me remove the speck from your eye,’ while there is a beam in your own? 5 You hypocrite! First remove the beam from your own eye, and then you can see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye. 6 Do not give what is holy to dogs or throw your pearls before pigs; otherwise they will trample them under their feet and turn around and tear you to pieces.

This whole speech is addressed at being judgmental of other people in regard to their fitness or standing before God. I am not ‘judging’ any person, but a set of beliefs and how they measure up to Christianity, I am not violating any injunction. Indeed, I am following a warning given by John the Revelator in First John 4:

1 Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to determine if they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. 2 By this you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses Jesus as the Christ who has come in the flesh is from God, 3 but every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God, and this is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming, and now is already in the world.

So I am testing this ‘spirit’, this claim of revelation of God. I find interesting that tenet 1 claims to recognize Jesus as the Son of God in the Flesh, and then denies Jesus’ Deity in most of the subsequent tenets.

Nya Nya Jo #fundie edendecoded.com

People want to say that religion and politics doesn't mix, but it does!

Biblical history shows us that the law of the land IS a religion; and the religion IS the law of the land. Ultimately, the politics (religious beliefs) of every society was based on what god or gods were worshiped. And this is no different to what we are witnessing now in our political arena.

SO THE QUESTION is what religious doctrine did Black women overwhelmingly subscribe to, that can be credited for destroying the traditional Black family?

We can NOT say it's Christianity. Because the black church never taught nor endorsed single motherhood as a viable option to Christian motherhood: which is found within the sanctity of a marriage covenant between a man and a woman.

The Bible, along with the Christian faith that rests on it, is replete with admonishments and warnings to avoid the type of sexual activity that leads to whoredom becoming the culture of the land. Nevertheless black women by and large (to the tune of 72% by recent stats) have rejected the biblical Christian standard. So what spiritual standard are they living by?

I believe Black women subscribed to the religious doctrine of Liberalism. You may be thinking that liberalism is not a religion, but it is. Liberalism is a very old ancient religion started over 3,000 years ago.

DID YOU KNOW the following about liberalism?

• Liberalism is based on the Roman god Liber.

• The Roman god name Liber means 'the free one;' its alternate Roman name was Bacchus; and the Greeks referred to this god as Dionysus.

• Liber is described as androgynous, man-womanish, sensuous, naked or half-naked.

• Liber is the god of wine, fertility, debauchery, uninhibited freedom and free speech.

• Liber's worship centered around large phallics; consisted of orgies, drunkenness, intoxication through various potions, and sexual activities (including homosexual acts).

• The Liber cult conducted human and animal sacrifices.

• Originally, Liber rituals were only attended and conducted by women, who practiced sexual masturbation rituals with carved life-sized phallic objects.

• Liber was the patron deity of the common people of Rome (the lower social classes); such as women who had lesser rights than the common man in ancient Roman society; slaves and foreigners.

• Worship of Liber taught civil disobedience to the established social order and the transformation of religious authority. Very much like what we've seen recently in the news with the riots and angry protests after the Presidential election that was won by Donald Trump and the Republican Party.

• In 186BC, the Roman Senate banned Liber worship because it was considered to be a threat to the security of the Roman Republic due to their political conspiracies, crimes and debauchery.

Now, let's take a look at our modern (current) Liberal politics.

Americn Liberalism is obsessed with sex - especially the kind that deals with homosexual and other alternative sexual infatuations. It also has an unhealthy focus on redefining family structure and twisting gender roles and identity.

The driving force behind liberalism is to create anarchy through 'anti-establishment' rhetoric; and to ultimately destroy traditional social principles by using the political system and process.

Modern liberalism aims to:

• End 'partriachy;' which means to prevent men from fulfilling their God-given right of leadership in home, government, moral authority; thus stripping men of their role and rights as fathers.

• Endorse free speech of every type and hue - except for free speech that contains traditional Christian principles.

• Teach sexual liberation; challenge the traditional codes of sexual behavior through LGBTQ special rights, laws and overwhelming media coverage.

• Promote free love; and that sexual freedom is a direct expression of power and authority.

• Normalize birth control (abortion), public nudity, masturbation, sex toys, pornography, premarital (casual) sex, sex with children (pederasty) and homosexuality.

• Reshape the image of the traditional family to include open marriage, spouse swapping, swinging and same-sex marriage.

• Make recreational drugs and alcohol easily accessible.

SO I ASK YOU: How could the black family remain intact with women that chose to adopt a liberal mindset that involved twisting gender roles, pushing the natural boundaries of sex, fighting against the God-given role men were given as leader in the home, indulging in all types of anti-biblical forms of intoxication, and devaluing their children to the point where they see nothing wrong in aborting them?

Liberalism is anti-god in all its ways.

Under liberalism black women have become gender confused, domineering over men (which is a hallmark of that confusion), whoreish (unable to get married, or maintain a marriage), excessive masturbators, sexual predators, cold and callous towards children (including the unborn), promoters of abortion (infanticide), drunkards (excessive drinkers), with a desire to assume final authority over men in the workplace, in government, in the church, and in their homes. These women rather pattern themselves after the image of liberalism, rather than the image of the virtuous women in the Bible who chose to honor God by becoming wives and mothers under the authority and headship of husbands.

And just like that, over the past 50 years, the Liberal political system converted the minds of women into pagan worshipping harlots of the god called Liber.

The Devil used Black Women as a 'legal and lawful' satanic attack on the black family. Ana if not rectified, this is the blueprint the Devil will use to destroy families of other races, ethnicities and cultures.

Satan has the blueprint for family destruction, and he will continue to use it across our country and the world.

Leviticus 19:29 (KJV) warns us: "Do not prostitute your daughter, to cause her to be a whore; lest the land fall to whoredom, and the land become full of wickedness."

So what we are witnessing right now is the result of generational self-prostitution of women; women choosing the lifestyle of whoredom over the standards of the Bible. And unashamedly, Black women voted for laws that led to the destruction of the Black family all so she could have laws that supported her ability to live a life of whoredom.

Hard truth: You don't have the mind of Jesus Christ if you choose to live life as a whore. You have the mind of some other god.

It is our lifestyle that shows our dedication to a specific set of religious beliefs. And we make sure our beliefs are cemented and protected through the laws and policies of our land via civil rights or identity rights.

I plead with Christians - particularly black Christian women and men to get involved in changing this damnable mindset of liberalism that has crept into our churches. Get involved in reshaping the political ideology to be pro-Christian!

We have a mandate and duty to be that light on the hill; I like to think of that hill as also including Capitol Hill.

Will YOU be that light? Become part of the movement to overthrow liberalism in the Church and in the black community. And let's restore the biblical perspective as the right foundation on which to build our homes, lives, communities and nation on.

Lady Checkmate #fundie disqus.com

Lady Checkmate's headline: "The Wisdom of the World is Foolishness to God"

There is NO earthly knowledge that undos what God has done nor that can sufficiently explain ALL that God has done. He IS the Ancient of Days and His Word is true forever. Never trust the limited knowledge and understanding of men nor women (the created) when Almighty God's (the Creator) understanding is unsearchable and His knowledge immeasurable.

Pray, seek God, study His word and ask for understanding, spiritual understanding, so that you may know what is truth and NEVER sell the truth for a lie. Selah.

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Don't forget to RECOMMEND. Lets get the Truth out so that Light may shine bright in this dark place and Jesus Christ may be glorified. Even if the discussion is closed, please still RECOMMEND.

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J.A.G #fundie traditioninaction.org

ESUS is the ANTICHRIST

Thank you for the information on the website, it provides further proof that the Vatican, the Great whore of Babylon along with the Antichrist or the head of the snake. Jesus is trying to decieve the world "eikomiene?" GK roman empire". Make no mistake I am saying Jesus is the head of the snake. Jesus is the Antichrist and it is the Messiah's job to point out who the Antichrist is. No I am not the Messiah but I can tell you Jesus is not the messiah because he is the ANTICHRIST.

Anyway any mythological creature (Jesus) who offers salvation for just believing ought to be questioned on an intellectual level, unless of course one believes in leperchauns then the believer has no chance of ever resurrecting (anastasis Gk moral recovery spiritual awakening) and should probably return to "american idol" or "survivor" and maybe the enlightened ones will awake you from ones deep slumber. Jesus has the probability of fullfiling the following 13 antichrist prophecies to be the ANTICHRIST and could never fulfill the messianic prophecies.

Using the Catholic method of reckoning, the chances of 13 false-messiah prophecies happening in one person would be more then seven times the proof of someone that fulfilled only seven messiah prophecies:

1 in 10 to the 17th power times seven, OBVIOUSLY indisputable proof that this person is the false-messiah.

THE PROPHECIES JESUS FULFILLED:

1. THE FALSE MESSIAH EXISTED BEFORE THE YEAR AD 96, 1 John 4:3
Jesus existed before the year AD 96. Fulfilled by Jesus

2. RISES FROM THE ABYSS, Rev.17: 8
The Apostles creed; "He (Jesus) descended into hell. He rose again from the dead."Fulfilled by Jesus

3. DECEIVES THE EARTH BY THE MEANS OF THOSE MIRACLES, Rev. 13:14.
Also See Exhibit 1 and 4. Fulfilled by Jesus
4. SHOWING HIMSELF THAT HE IS GOD, Thess. 2:4.
Jesus: "Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; or at least believe on the evidence of the miracles themselves," (John 14:11). Fulfilled by Jesus

5. CREATES NEW ORDER IN 42 MONTHS, Re 13:5.
Jesus preached for forty two months, from this the Catholic Church (the new order) was created. Fulfilled by Jesus

6. HEAD OF THE WORLD-CHURCH, Zech. 6:13
"And he (Jesus) is the head of the body, the church," Col 1:18. Fulfilled by Jesus

7. CHANGES GOD'S LAWS, Da 7:25.
"And Jesus, the mediator of the new covenant", Heb 12:24. Fulfilled by Jesus

8. HIS FOLLOWERS SAY THEY ARE JEWS, AND ARE NOT, Re 3:9.
Gentiles that believe Jesus is the messiah call themselves spiritual Israelites - Jews Fulfilled by Jesus

9. HE WILL MAKE FIRE COME DOWN FROM HEAVEN ON THE EARTH, Rev 13:13
Jesus said: "I have come to set the earth on fire, and how I wish it were already blazing!" (Lu 12:49). Fulfilled by Jesus

10. HIS IMAGE WITH A WOUND IS WORSHIPPED UNIVERSALLY, RE 13:14
An image of a man with a wound (Jesus) is worshipped universally as God. Fulfilled by Jesus

11. MANY WHO WOULD NOT WORSHIP THE IMAGE ARE KILLED, Re 13:15
One of countless examples: 1171: Jews are arrested and most are executed after refusing to convert and worship the image of Jesus. Fulfilled by Jesus

12. CAUSE ALL TO RECEIVE HIS MARK (a symbol) BY THE RIGHT HAND UPON THE FOREHEADS IN HIS NAME. AND THAT NO MAN MIGHT BUY OR SELL, EXCEPT HE THAT HAD THE MARK, Rev. 13: 16 -17.
Baptize: The MARK of repentance received by Catholics upon their foreheads from the right hand of a priest, in Jesus' name as a symbol of admission into the Catholic Church.

Two of countless examples:
722 AD: Leo III outlawed Judaism. Jews were baptized against their will or killed.
1936 AD: Cardinal Hloud of Poland urged Catholics to boycott Jewish businesses.
Fulfilled by Jesus

13. HE SHALL CHANGE TIMES, Da 7:25. Times: [A period of time] - era: AD: the Christian era. Fulfilled by Jesus By the Catholic method of reckoning, the Petitioner has presented indisputable proof that Jesus is beyond a doubt, the false-messiah.

Jesus is the only person who COULD and DID FULFILL the necessary requirements of the Catholic Church, a FACT of which they are FULLY AWARE.

Karla Maria 777 #fundie answers.yahoo.com

Darwin applied in his "science " what already existed in spiritualist cults and Eastern voodooists?
Spiritism is evolutionary because it supports the idea that man gets better for many, many reincarnations and goes to the most advanced worlds...

Although just in only 100 years, Kardec Spiritism copied much of what already existed in Eastern religions, among them the reincarnation to pay for the mistakes and evolve.

The concept of evolution was not born with Darwin, but the occult, spiritualism and voodooists diabolic cults existing in the East.

Darwin just copied a lie called reincarnation and disguised as pseudo-science called evolution, he was a charlatan just like Kardec which also copied of the eastern voodoo the concept of evolution and called it karma, reincarnation, and other nonsense from the doctrines of demons.

Darwin only used itlike pseudoscientific theory, Evolutionism has never been scientifically proven until now. Separate specimens do not indicate that there was an escalation of evolution.

Reflect before believing blindly in the first nonsense that is disguised as philosophy, science or religion, spiritualism, evolution, voodoo, Gravity, seicho no ie, voodoo, Buddhism (Japanese voodoo), spiritualism (voodoo on the French, of chic and intellectual busybodies ...). It is all the doctrine of the devil, diabolism, pure work of deception of the father of lies!

Jan27 Committee #racist jan27.org

Greetings and welcome from the Jan27.org committee. We are made up of scientists, engineers, literary text experts, historical researchers, free-speech advocates, skeptics, and the just plain intellectually curious. We invite you to join us!

We chose January 27 for our day of commemoration because of the ceremonies taking place on this date at the United Nations in New York City and at the Auschwitz-Birkenau Memorial Museum in Poland. That commemoration is named the “International Day of Commemoration in Memory of the Victims of the Holocaust.”

We thought it would be a good idea to add our voices to the many that are being heard in those places, telling their stories of gas chambers, torture, starvation, and genocide. Our stories are about science, the laws of physics, technical possibilities and impossibilities, common sense and the constant lowering of the death tolls. We bring Good News!

Right at the very spot that the story of 6 million murdered Jews is being told today and every day, these plaques tell the real story. Up until 1990, the plaque on the left was in place, in several languages, in front of the Auschwitz-Birkenau Monument at the Poland memorial, claiming that four million people were killed here “by nazi murderers” in the five years between 1940 and 1945.

But in 1990 (corresponding with the fall of the Soviet Union) the number was reduced to 1.5 million, with no explanation, and the plaque on the right replaced the original plaque. That’s 2.5 million less murdered humans! How could the historians and managers of the memorial site have been so wrong for 45 years? What made them “re-check” and suddenly “discover” (rather admit) their error? Only the growing body of critical, scholarly and scientific writings that demonstrated the impossibility of four million people being murdered in “gas chambers” and then cremated to ashes at Birkenau.

The answer to why the 4 million figure was used in the first place is that it was deemed necessary at the 1946 Nuremberg Tribunal as a support and justification for the fantastic 6 million total number of Jews “murdered.” Who demanded the 6 million number? You should be able to answer that yourself.

But more, the official Auschwitz-Birkenau death number now stands even lower at 1.1 million. There are holocaust historians in good standing who have reduced it to 900,000 and even 700,000. How much lower will it go?

This is just one example of the many changes in the holocaust story that the official establishment has been forced to make due to the critical scrutiny and investigation (at great risk to their own life and liberty) of those we call Revisionists. The work of Revisionism is ongoing; the resistance to it is deeply entrenched. Therefore our commemoration honors the brave Revisionists who have introduced sanity to what began as a wildly improbable account based entirely on wartime atrocity propaganda. With this annual commemoration we are …

CALLING FOR A RETURN TO SANITY

Our first order of business is to honor those holocaust revisionists who are now deceased, among them many of the very first pioneers who blazed the trail for those who followed. We list them here in order of the appearance of their first revisionist work, and we include the persecution they suffered at the hands of the entrenched “Holocaust” forces.

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To these men we owe our gratitude and our commitment to carry on so that their sacrifices, and those of others still living, will not have been made in vain. It’s a sad fact that in our societies, it is not acknowledged that REVISIONISTS HAVE RIGHTS TOO!

Tom Bethell #fundie lewrockwell.com

Relativity and the Priesthood of Science

A major turning point in the public's understanding of science came about a century ago, with the introduction of Einstein's special and general theories of relativity. Before then, educated laymen were expected to and usually could understand new developments in science, at least in outline. After Einstein this changed. Science moved beyond the ken of educated laymen. You didn't understand what these new arguments were about? Then stick to your poetry, or perhaps your knitting. Science was becoming a private party to which you weren't invited. (Except that, increasingly, your taxes were expected to pay for it.)

Newton's laws of motion and gravity always were intelligible to the layman, and could be expressed in plain language. Einstein's relativity changed that, in the direction of reduced clarity, intelligibility and vastly increased complexity. I shall go further and say that relativity failed to improve on Newtonian physics in terms of accuracy.

Recently I wrote a book about relativity, Questioning Einstein: Is Relativity Necessary? It was based on the research and arguments of Petr Beckmann, who taught electrical engineering at the University of Colorado after defecting from Czechoslovakia in 1963. He wrote books that were both popular (A History of Pi) and obscure (The Scattering of Electromagnetic Waves from Rough Surfaces), and late in life he published Einstein Plus Two (1987).

He argued that the facts that led to relativity could more easily be explained by classical physics — without relativity. His book was in many ways technical, but before he died (in 1993) he reviewed it for my benefit in a series of tape-recorded interviews.

I was already familiar with his newsletter Access to Energy. An excellent popularizer of science, Beckmann could have written a popular anti-relativity book himself and had considered doing so. But he believed that it would be ignored. A technical one just might be accepted, he thought. He was wrong about that. His book was neither attacked nor even reviewed. It sold quite well, however, because he advertised it. I told him that I would write the popular account myself.

I still have my tapes, in which he talks not just about relativity but about his high school education in England, Czechoslovakia's postwar tumble into Communism and much else. The son of secular Jews in Prague, he was among the refugee children, known as Kinder-Transport, who were brought to England in 1939.

He died long before I could write my book. But by then Howard Hayden, with the Physics Department at the University of Connecticut, had accepted Beckmann's arguments. Today Hayden is retired, and the publisher of a newsletter, The Energy Advocate. The help he gave me in writing my book was indispensable.

It came out in 2009. I am glad to say that it just received a favorable review in The Physics Teacher [Feb 2011 issue].

In the course of writing the book I found that many physicists are uncomfortable discussing relativity theory. They believe it is true, but they doubt their ability to explain it. Few can respond to questions if they have not actually taught relativity at the university level. And that is a tiny subset of all physicists.

Special relativity theory (1905) has a special difficulty. It baffles almost everyone, yet nothing more than high school algebra is involved. So it's not the math. It's that we must accept something that is impossible to believe — except on Einstein's authority. If Petr Beckmann is right, we should reject that authority, as indeed we should reject authority in all fields of science.

I'll try to explain that difficulty. But first let me make a simple clarification. What about E = mc2, you might ask. Surely that must be true, and was it not based on relativity? It is the one thing that laymen know about relativity. And here we come to something that the Easy Einstein books (and most of the not-so-easy ones) never tell you. Yes, the famous equation was derived from relativity theory, but Einstein himself also derived it, years later (in the 1940s) without relativity.

A similar adjustment, in which relativity can be shown to be unnecessary, applies across the entire field.

It was the Michelson-Morley experiment of 1887 that launched special relativity. It involves only unaccelerated, linear motion. If curved motion, acceleration, or gravity, are involved, then we must turn to general relativity (1916), where the math gets much more difficult.

Albert Michelson, the first American to win the Nobel Prize in Physics, attempted to detect the passage of the orbiting earth through the ether (sometimes spelled aether). It is the medium in which light waves travel. Just as sound travels in its medium, air, so light waves need a medium, too. As the earth orbits the Sun at a speed of about 48 miles per second, it should be possible, using an interferometer — an instrument that Michelson had perfected — to detect the Earth's passage through that ether.

Michelson's idea was that there should be a difference in the measured speed of the to-and-fro motion of a light beam within the interferometer — the difference being caused by the forward motion of the earth during the light beam's time of transmission. The difference in light speed would cause a "fringe shift" to be seen in the interferometer, which was sensitive enough to detect such an effect. But no such fringe shift could be detected.

This "null result" threw the world of theoretical physics into turmoil. Michelson, incidentally, never accepted relativity theory.

Einstein postulated — assumed — that the speed of light is a constant irrespective of the motion, not just of the light source, but also of the observer. And that "observer" part was very hard to accept. A sound wave travels at a constant speed in air (of a given temperature and density) whatever the motion of the sound source. Sound from an airplane travels forward at a speed that is unaffected by the speed of the plane. But if you travel toward that approaching sound wave then you must add your speed to that of the plane's sound wave if you are to know the speed with which it approaches you.

But Einstein decreed that the simple "addition of velocities" that applies to sound does not hold true for light. Light waves approach us at the same speed whether we travel toward or away from that light beam. It's important to note that Einstein didn't observe that in any experiment. He postulated it. He said: "Let's assume it is true."

What follows from it?

Well, speed is distance divided by time. When you move toward that light beam, which (Einstein said) always approaches at a constant speed irrespective of how you (the observer) move, then space must contract, and time must dilate to exactly the extent that is needed to ensure that the light approaches at an ever-constant speed. It's a bizarre claim. What Einstein did was take the fundamentals of physics, space and time, and argue that they must be subordinated to a velocity. Yet velocity is a mere derivative — it is space divided by time.

Einstein had resorted to a desperate measure — turning physics inside out. He also decided in 1905 that the ether could be dispensed with. It was "superfluous."

Observed from a moving reference frame, then, space should be observed to contract and time to slow down. Let's go over this with those spaceships sometimes used to illustrate Easy Einstein books (Martin Gardner's Relativity Simply Explained, for example). You are inside your spaceship, so from your point of view nothing about it is moving. So space and time are not affected within your ship.

But if you look out of a window you see a replica space ship passing you and (in accordance with relativity theory) it looks foreshortened because it is moving fast relative to you. Clocks as you see them in the other spaceship are running slowly. By the same token, observers within that spaceship see your ship as compressed, and your clocks running slowly, even though your clocks and structures look perfectly normal to you.

Notice that these weird outcomes are simply deductions from Einstein's postulate about the speed of light. They are not dictated nor confirmed by any observation or experiment. In subsequent experiments, no space contraction has ever been observed. No time dilation has been seen either — although that is a more controversial claim. What has been observed is that when atomic clocks travel at high speed through the Earth's gravitational field, they slow down. But clocks slowing down and time slowing down are two very different things. Only the former has been observed.

And this brings us to Beckmann's alternative. He amends Albert Michelson's worldview in a simple way. Following Clerk Maxwell's lead, Michelson assumed that the ether, the luminiferous medium, was made of a fine-grained substance that fills the entirety of space uniformly. The emphasis is on the last word. The ether was thought to be a uniform entity — equal in density everywhere.

Petr Beckman made a different claim. He argued that the ether is equivalent to the gravitational field, which of course is non-uniform. It is denser at the earth's surface than it is near the moon, for example. The Sun's gravitational field is much denser near the Sun than it is in outer space (where it is still not zero). The light medium, then, is non-uniform.

Obviously, we are predominantly in the Earth's field. Jump up, and you come back down again. To leave that field requires an almighty push — from Saturn rockets. When Michelson did his experiment, with the help of Edward Morley (at the Case School in Ohio) he assumed that his interferometer was moving through the ether at the Earth's orbital velocity. But if the ether is the local gravitational field, then that field is moving right along with us. In the same way, a man's shadow accompanies him as he runs. So the "fringe shift" that Michelson expected to see would not be there, because the relative velocity of the Earth and the ether would be . . . what, zero?

Here we encounter a twist — literally. The Earth also rotates on its axis, and it rotates within its gravitational field. Analogously, if a woman wearing a hoop skirt does a pirouette — assume she has a circular waist and friction is minimal — she will rotate within her skirt. It won't swing around with her.

If this analogy applies to the Earth's field, then a fringe shift should indeed appear in Michelson's interferometer, but it will be much smaller than he anticipated. It so happens that the Earth's orbital velocity is close to 100 times greater than its rotational velocity in the latitude of Cleveland and, for reasons that need not detain us, that figures has to be squared. It follows that the fringe shift that the Michelson experiment generated — a function of the Earth's rotation — would be one ten thousandth of what he expected to see.

There was no way that so small an effect could be detected using 19th century equipment. But modern interferometers and laser beams can do so. In fact the most sensitive interferometer experiment ever conducted, by John Hall in 1979, did detect a fringe shift of the correct magnitude, confirming Beckmann's theory of the ether. Ironically Hall's experiment was done at Petr Beckmann's home base, the University of Colorado in Boulder, and while he was there. But he didn't know about the experiment and Hall didn't know of Beckmann's theory (still unpublished at that point).

Hall was not expecting to see this fringe shift and he assumed the effect was "spurious" — the artifact of a design error in his own equipment. In an interview with me in 2004, Hall (who won the Nobel Prize in Physics but not for this experiment) agreed that his 1979 experiment should be redone. But he is unable to repeat it for two reasons. First, the rotating interferometer that he used had been stored away in the Rocky Mountain Arsenal where the Federal government was making nerve gas; they won't return his machine for that reason. Secondly, interferometer design has changed. The new ones are "fixed" in a particular direction and use the Earth's rotation to sweep across the heavens. What is needed is an interferometer that rotates in the laboratory, as Michelson's did in 1887 and Hall's did almost a hundred years later.

Beckmann's theory, that the luminiferous ether is equivalent to the local gravitational field, accounts for the observations that confirmed general relativity, but does so far more simply. Amazingly, Einstein himself revived Beckmann's idea about the ether in 1916. (For details see Ludwik Kostro's Einstein and the Ether [2000], the first book on the subject). Some of Einstein's allies criticized him for restoring the ether, having abolished it a decade earlier, so it was downplayed.

Beckmann's theory accounts for the bending of light rays from a distant star as they pass close by the Sun — the 1919 observation that made Einstein world famous. If a medium in which a wave travels is non-uniform, it will slew the wave front around in accordance in Fermat's Principle — known since the 17th century. (Waves take the path that minimizes the time of transmission.) We do not need Einstein's "curvature of four dimensional space-time," which, as Edward Teller told me, is not an intelligible idea, no matter how much we may pretend we do understand it.

Finally, we come to the equation giving the perihelion of Mercury's orbit. Einstein derived it in 1915 using general relativity. But Beckmann points out that this equation had already been published by a high school teacher named Paul Gerber in 1898, well before relativity theory was known. Gerber assumed that gravity propagates with a finite speed, not instantaneously as Newton had argued. Gerber's result was publicized by Ernst Mach in his widely read textbook Mechanics. Einstein said that he hadn't seen Gerber's derivation, which anyway was "wrong through and through," he said.

Howard Hayden believes that Beckmann's theory gives the same results as Einstein's general relativity, but by a far simpler method. For various reasons, Einstein's special relativity should be discarded. It gives the wrong results for stellar aberration, among other defects. There is also a real question whether any experiment done on the surface of the Earth (a "spinning ball," as John Hall told me) fits the requirements of special relativity. On the surface of any spinning ball, the effects of acceleration will always appear as long as the experiment is sufficiently sensitive.

At present, the world of orthodox physics is unwilling to reexamine Einstein's relativity, whether special or general. It would fall apart if subjected to real scrutiny, I believe. But in science (and perhaps everything else) the simple should always be preferred to the complex — all else being equal. Such a revision, if it ever came to pass, would also constitute a serious challenge to the priesthood of science. Perhaps that's why the relativists are hanging tough.

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Once a person becomes aware of the fallacious nature of science -- the errors in the laws -- and sees that there is a serious problem with the structure and foundations of science, but continues to idolize science and promote this human endeavor as the 'Truth' while it clearly isn't, spiritually speaking there's a price to pay.

Rewrote the laws and unified the macroscopic (diffusion) with the atomic/subatomic (fine-structure constant) through a proper definition of mass -- the gateway to unification. Redefined objectivity as limiting one's analyses through the use of transcendental numbers and integers only. Uncovered the missing universal constant one half the square root of pi over e. Pi over e makes space time inseparable, and this constant relates to mass -- space-time-mass are connected.
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No one will be convicted for being caught up in the great delusion. However, once the Truth is known, the spiritual penalty will be very severe for promolgating the present state of idolized science. Don't worry about being held legally responsible. Worry about being held spiritually accountable for idolatry.
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