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If there is no God—there are no Absolute Laws—Universal Truths or Natural Rights from God. We had this ideology of Universal Truths since Plato which culminated with Christianity in American jurisprudence. Higher Law than man’s and Natural Rights from God.

Atheism creates people like Voltaire’s Atheists-—the French Revolutionaries—who did some of the grossest things in history—desecrated the dead, headless bodies and arranged them in sexual positions—Atheist humor is really Satanic and evil and full of excrement and orgies.

Lenin and Stalin and Mao’s Atheism just killed tens of millions and Hitler’s occultist/homosexual paganism killed millions. Oh goody-—such superior ideology when they kick out the Judeo/Christian God.

I would only allow Atheists to be second class citizens since they do not believe we have Natural Rights from God. As such—they are extremely dangerous and deranged because they think they can take our Natural Rights away and force unjust laws which promote Vice-—like the Godless in chief in the WH.

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old comment by Swede

You do know that Plato didn't believe in your god, don't you? Plus, he died about 350 years before Jesus was born.

The ones the French revolutionaries protested against did about as much gross things as the revolutionaries did. What goes around comes around, ya know.

Stalin and Mao were worshiped almost as deities by their followers, so they were hardly atheistic states.
Hitler said he was doing God's work. Your god, to be explicit.

Most atheists believe we have human rights, due to being humans.

What are Natural Rights? The right to be forced to marry a rapist? The right be be sold into marriage by your father? The right to be stoned to death if you are raped? The right to be executed for eating shellfish, wearing mixed fabric clothes or working on the sabbath? The right to be killed because you happen to live on a piece of land that God has given to the Israelites? Are those the Natural Rights you are afraid someone is going to take away from you? Well, you can keep them...

old comment by checkmate

which culminated with Christianity in American jurisprudence

Culminated? As in "reached its highest point"?

What's so special about American jurisprudence? Capital punishment? Putting 12 year olds in prison with adults? Chain gangs? Executing mentally retarted inmates? Sacco and Vanzetti?

Susie, if it wasn't for the Enlightenment you hate so much, mouthy women like you would be standing in the market place in the stocks and the executions you love much would still be done by quartering with horses.

Take a good look at the civilized world aroud you. You don't know shit about jurisprudence. The jurisprudence you think is the culmination of universal truths and natural rights is actually a little backward.

Let's ask Mr. Jurisprudence himself, Sheriff Joe Arpaio, what he thinks about "Natural Rights from God" as far as his inmates are concerned. Not much, I gather.

With liberty and justice for all.

@Tempus

Perhaps you could be a bit more explicit. ;-))

old comment by farpadokly

What about all the hideous things done in the Christian middle ages under Christian kings? What about the Vlad the Impaler and Ivan the Terrible? What about the Christian crusaders indulging in mass beheadings? What about Basil II blinding 14,000 captive Bulgarians after the battle of Kleidion?
It's clear enough that the old medieval and early modern tyrants only differed from the 20th century tyrants in not having access to their more efficient mass killing methods. If they had been able to use modern military weapons and genocide techniques, does anyone really doubt that they would've used them?
No, the real culprit here is power itself, the power wielded by a hierarchy which must be obeyed blindly and not questioned, along with an "ingroup" mentality and a dehumanising of the enemy. The same process can be seen at work in things like the My Lai massacre in Vietnam, so American Christians are not immune to it. And what about the disgusting treatment of the indigenous population of the Americas by supposed Christians?
I could go on.

old comment by Mister Spak

"If there is no Godthere are no Absolute LawsUniversal Truths or Natural Rights from God."

"The atheist preserves his reason, which checks his propensity to mischief, while the fanatic is under the influence of a madness which is constantly urging him on."

- Voltaire

Frederick Douglass told in his Narrative how his condition as a slave became worse when his master underwent a religious conversion that allowed him to justify slavery as the punishment of the children of Ham. Mark Twain described his mother as a genuinely good person, whose soft heart pitied even Satan, but who had no doubt about the legitimacy of slavery, because in years of living in antebellum Missouri she had never heard any sermon opposing slavery, but only countless sermons preaching that slavery was God's will. With or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil; but for good people to do evil that takes religion.

Steven Weinberg

Why do people so readily believe in miracles?
For many, the regressive belief in superstitions and miracles is an escape from the hardships of life. Once trapped into irrationalism, they become more incapable of mastering reality. It is a vicious circle, like an addiction. They become vulnerable to exploitation by astrologers, godmen, dubious pseudo-psychologists, corrupt politicians, and the whole mega-industry of irrationalism.

Sanal Edamaruku president of the Indian Rationalist Association,

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Atheism creates people like Voltaire’s Atheists-the French Revolutionarieswho did some of the grossest things in historydesecrated the dead, headless bodies and arranged them in sexual positionsAtheist humor is really Satanic and evil and full of excrement and orgies.

Grossest? Doesn't your vocabulary include a less childish term, susie? And sure, the French Revolution had its share of atrocities (which would have horrified Voltaire, by the way), but I am not aware of any large scale corpse desacration. Did you stumble upon some old anti-Revolutionary propaganda?

@ Reynardine:
"And don't forget: God is a Cat."

That... would actually explain a lot of things. But God seems to be lacking one of the most important feline qualities, namely cuteness!