Well I have a cousin who asked if she could bring a friend to our Thanksgiving dinner. I said sure no problem there is always enough. Well she came with her friend and she was very nice. Teaches at KU, very likeable. Well as the day progressed I asked my cousin if her husband was coming. She replied " well I have an announcement". "I am getting divorced and I am gay and this is my partner ___". Well needless to say I was floored as well as my dh. Nobody else was upset about it. Fast forward to 2 years ago. They wanted a baby so they ordered donor sperm and used a turkey baster ( will never use another one again) and well one got pregnant. Well the baby a boy has had several problems and been in the hospital alot. No one in my family believes me when I tell them God did not intend for women to have children using a turkey baster and maybe that has something to do with the little boy having so many troubles. Two women or two men can not create a baby and maybe people need to think that cheating God is not such a good idea. My family thinks I am nuts. Needless to say I do not host family Thanksgiving dinners anymore except for immediate family.
Christy
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My family thinks I am nuts.
Well, so do I. At least I don't have to put up with your fundie biggoted ways IRL though.
Is she really so stupid that she honestly believes they used a turkey baster?
Listen carefully, honey: it's a *figure of speech*.
Gah.
"They wanted a baby so they ordered donor sperm and used a turkey baster ( will never use another one again) and well one got pregnant. Well the baby a boy has had several problems and been in the hospital alot."
What with the gobbling and the wattle and the droppings, well hell, ya know, it makes that good ol' Christain fambly thanksgiving real hard!!!
I'm wondering was the sperm mail-order? And if so was it overnight delivery?
BTW - Nice God you got there -- "Suffer the little children" to punish the parents. You're not nuts, you're a jackass.
Now I want some turkey baster porn!
Perverted comments aside, why would a loving god punish a child for the supposed sins of the parent?
Also, doesn't the bible say something about not being judgmental?
"Fast forward to 2 years ago"
Only on Rapture Ready...
Ever occur to you that the child could be having problems because 1. of genetic problems with the father 2. recessive genetic abnormalities with the mother or 3. dumb (bad) luck? Of course not. It's always Jesus judging someone whenever a birth defect or a miscarriage abounds. The infants are always just caught in the crossfire in the battle against non-missionary position sex.
Ugh. The other people on that thread are complete jerkwads. Calling the police on your family members if they announce they're gay? WTF?
And hooray, God is inflicting devastating illnesses on little kids because they have two mommies again.
maybe that has something to do with the little boy having so many troubles.
It could have been due to a defect in either the sperm or egg.
And what about all of the hetrosexual couples who have children with defects?
Two women or two men can not create a baby and maybe people need to think that cheating God is not such a good idea.
Needless to say I do not host family Thanksgiving dinners anymore except for immediate family.
I love the reply by Rachel234:
"I would have lost it on her and her "friend". They come into MY house and disrespect my beliefs and values like that? They come sit at MY table and act in such an outrageous and offensive manner - announcing their perversion to our family when we're here trying to be thankful to God. Oh no. OUT! I would have kicked them out. Three seconds to get their coat and get out or I'm calling the police to get them off my property. One ............. "
With a reply like that, you'd think she had plopped down on the table, raped and eaten their puppy, than tried to sell them a copy of Dianetics
My family thinks I am nuts.
So does everyone else. Maybe you should spend some time in objective self-contemplation.
...God did not intend for women to have children using a turkey baster and maybe that has something to do with the little boy having so many troubles.
So...Jehovah is punishing a small child for something he had absolutely no choice in. At least He's consistent.
Yeah, no baby with health problems is ever born to good hetero christian parents... It's just teh geyness that caused it, for sure!
'Twinkie' is a total douche. Why should she even be so upset over her cousin simply saying what she did? Oh, right. 'Love the sinner, hate the sin' is BS and really means 'we srsly hate those pervy homos.'
God can torture lesbians but he can't manage to simply make them infertile?
Like, what did the kid do to deserve that?
Talk about fucking collateral damage.
"My family thinks I am nuts"
And not just because you've developed an irrational fear of turkey basters? [Which is probably not what they actually use, that's like saying an exactoknife is a scalpel]
@ hmmmm: I think it's a needle you stick in turkeys to inject liquified chicken into them or something.
As for how they ALL got 'infected', I'm not really sure. Maybe it's like the snake's punishment in the Garden of Eden?
Or perhaps all the turkey basters are made from quantum-entangled glass?
Say you would have had a disabled kid, and your cousin, who is a Muslim, keeps telling you that you should convert to the one true faith because it wouldn't have happened otherwise.
I hate you, and I think your family does too.
I suppose all those good heterosexual couples with babies in hospital must be using turkey basters too. Think about the money one could make by selling basters in one's Sex Shop! Wow.
BTW, you are nuts!
@ Mat, WMD was a fundie lie too, on massive scale. Fundie and therefore stupid. The idea of not planting at least one WMD to justify the claim/lie is just so stupid! And yet, byt heir own terms of reference these fundies cannot see that there is a responsibility on the Fundies Prez for all the lives that have been lost due to his lie. Talk about selective judgementalism! Sheeez!
Xotan wrote@ Mat, WMD was a fundie lie too, on massive scale. Fundie and therefore stupid. The idea of not planting at least one WMD to justify the claim/lie is just so stupid!
It wouldn't have been that difficult either. Donald Rumsfeld had already sold WMD to Saddam under the Reagan administration anyway (Saddam was the West's friend at the time ((just as the Saudis are now)) : the intention was for the weapons to be used against the Iraqis, not the Kurds). It wouldn't be that hard to claim to claim the US had recovered them.
Oh, wait, I can see a problem with that...
Hey, Twinkie, Jesus himself refuted the idea of a baby being cursed for the sins of its parents. He and his disciples once came across a blind man and when one of his disciples asked Jesus about which of the blind man's parents' sins caused his blindness, Jesus basically told them that that belief was nonsense.
Face it, you're just a self-righteous bigot and your family has every right to believe that you're nuts.
Damn that was silly. You're being played for a fool about the turkey baster thing Twink, and you are a bigoted jerk, However if her cousin did blindside everyone at Thanksgiving with this news, especially at Twink's house knowing Twink was a fundie cultist, I think the cousin showed poor judgement.
@#828393, I agree that the cousin showed very poor judgment to drop this bombshell at Thanksgiving with apparently no warning. That is NOT the way to do it!
But the whole "The Lawd will lay His curse upon thy Baster of Turkeys that thy children will suffer the iniquities of thy sin" is so silly, I'm inclined to think a fundie could actually believe it.
They have good reasons to think you're nuts...........specially because they know many families who, unfortunately, have sick children, insensitive bastard.
for those saying "artificial insemination does not work that way", they're actually wrong. Knowing a lesbian couple who have just had a child, they were given two options for how to conceive from donor sperm. One was IVF and the other was referred to by the staff at the clinic as the turkey baster method.
They went with the IVF, so I can't confirm whether an actual turkey baster was used or just something more specialised. Though my understanding is it's really not much more complex.
"They wanted a baby so they ordered donor sperm and used a turkey baster ( will never use another one again) and well one got pregnant. Well the baby a boy has had several problems"
"No one in my family believes me when I tell them God did not intend for women to have children using a turkey baster and maybe that has something to do with the little boy having so many troubles."
Well, apart from him having a subconscious desire to climb into the oven...!
"My family thinks I am nuts"
With emph-ass-is on nuts :
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Here is a birdbrain who waves his pecker about, and poses a danger to all those around him. The other is a turkey. X3
"They...used a turkey baster ( will never use another one again)"
"Needless to say I do not host family Thanksgiving dinners anymore except for immediate family."
- Who'd want to share a Thanksgiving meal with you? As tough and dry as the turkey might be, it would still be more enjoyable than your company.
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