"I think there’s been a real level of being disingenuous on the part of the gay and lesbian community with their goal of civil unions... You don’t go ahead and accommodate every behavioral pattern that is against the ideal. That would be like saying, well, there are a lot of people who like to use drugs, so let’s go ahead and accommodate those who want who use drugs."
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If you wish to build a pedestal from which to look down your nose at others, the cheapest materials to use are sexual morals: by expressing your disgust at any pattern of sexual behaviour that seems to deviate from the absolute norm, you can guarantee that our innate shamefulness about the carnal will inspire an certain audience of people who will praise you for being capable, to the exclusion of all others, of spotting the immorality of non-standard sexual behaviour. But, ultimately, you are doing nothing more than trying to inspire shallow praise for yourself, while sacrificing the dignity of other people.
You don’t go ahead and accommodate every behavioral pattern that is against the ideal.
Heterosexual marriage includes divorce and remarriage, often multiple times. Just look at Liz Taylor or Rush Limbaugh. Heterosexual marriage doesn't always produce children, either by choice or medical condition. Just look at Helen Mirren or Condoleezza Rice.
Do those conform to the "ideal" you're trying to promote? Or do you just find picking on gays so much easier and more fun, Mike?
That would be like saying, well, there are a lot of people who like to use drugs...
Apples to oranges comparison, Mike. Granting basic human rights to a discriminated group is not the same as a democratic decision by the people to legalize pot.
1) Marriage isn't a drug habit.
2) There are good arguments for legalising licensed use of recreational drugs as we do alcohol and tobacco, but that's a whole separate issue.
Letting two people live together and be legally partnered hurts no-one. No-one is ever killed by the mere fact that two people were married.
A drugged person can harm both him/her-self and others around him/her. There are people killed by drunk/drugged drivers every week.
You, sir, have no Perspective.
Well, the simple fact that there's so many adherents to religions like yours, Gov. Huckabee, is proof that people are trying to accommodate behavioral patterns that go against the ideal of rational thought and honest discourse.
Well the prohibition of drugs has been such a resounding success that I'd recommend going back to the bible for guidance, specifically Genesis 1:29
"And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat."
God gave us these plants to use without prohibition, who are you to go against God's word?
The analogy is stupid, obviously, but why not accomodate drug users. Until their drug use impinges on my rights I could care less. It is just another example of a religious nut job like Huckabee imposing his view of how to live on others.
More people die from aspirin every year than marijuana.
And this asshat actually won the Republican presidential primary in some states.
He's also said that women need to accept their Biblical role of being subordinate to men, and that we need to change the Constitution to get it "in line with the Bible."
I'm guessing that would mean revoking women's right to vote, the reinstitution of slavery, and the death penalty for gays, for a start.
"That would be like saying, well, there are a lot of people who like to use drugs, so let’s go ahead and accommodate those who want who use drugs."
Or like saying: "A lot of fundamentalist pastors like to preach hate and fearmongery, perhaps we should provide them tax exempt status." Surely we don't do that, do we?
With the exception, of course, that doing drugs is a choice. I think a better thing to compare it to would be the color of their hair. We don't want to accommodate stupid people, so let's stop giving blonds any rights at all. In fact, give them all shoulder pads and home sterilization kits. See how that works?
People don't choose to be gay. I didn't choose to like girls like I do. Straight works for me.
YOU have the choice to be Christian or not. You have the choice to be an asshole or not. You even have the choice to just let people love the person they want to be with. And yet you choose to be a close-minded cock. Perhaps you're the one we should discriminate against.
Huckabee... Hmmmm. Try looking beyond your own yard. There is a whole continent across the ocean that does not agree with you, and thinks you are, frankly, spouting like an ignorant gobshite. You make America, sadly, look stupid. What a service to your country! It deserves better than this.
"That would be like saying, well, there are a lot of people who like to use drugs, so let’s go ahead and accommodate those who want who use drugs."
You mean... Applying democratic principles? THE FUCKING HORROR!
Drug addiction is a destructive habit.
Homosexuality, on the other hand, is not.
Also, I'm just assuming you mean illicit drugs, because you're country seems to be VERY accommodating to people who use prescription drugs.
So you're saying to outlaw the Mormons?
You don’t go ahead and accommodate every behavioral pattern that is against the ideal. That would be like saying, well, there are a lot of people who like to use drugs, so let’s go ahead and accommodate those who want who use drugs."
And WHY aren't we? People don't HAVE to be into the same things y'know. That's what being an individual is kind of all about, but if YOU'D rather blindly follow the Status Quo (who by the way don't care about your well being AT ALL), then fine. Be a sheep.
Yeah because it's not like legal and regulated drugs wouldn't solve anything. Oh wait it would. Great analogy Mike, you fucking retard.
Especially since you equate homosexuality to drug abuse I assume to mean it's harmful or self-destructive.
A MAN LOVING ANOTHER MAN/WOMAN LOVING ANOTHER WOMAN WHO LOVES HIM/HER BACK = HARMLESS.
A PERSON LOVING DRUGS = HARMFUL TO THEIR BODY AND HARMFUL TO OTHERS WHOM THEY MAY BE AROUND WHILE TWEAKING OR HAVING THEIR HIGH (SUCH AS DRIVING OR PUSHING THEIR USE ON THEIR PEERS)
BIIIIIIIIGGGGGG FUCKING DIFFERENCE!!!!! DO THE FUCKING MATH BEFORE OPENING YOUR IGNORANT FUCKING MOUTH AND SPEWING OUT BULLSHIT.
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